RE: [PAYCO] Sad news

2012-06-15 Thread Nkrumah
Mawande, is one of the finest cadre of the party, unrelenting and critical perspective provide fresh ideas comprehending social reality. We will always miss his voice and writings. Shango Nkrumah R Kgagudi Sent from Samsung tablet Mpuka Radinku mpu...@iafrica.com wrote: It is a massive loss

RE: [PAYCO] Sad news

2012-06-14 Thread Mduduzi Sibeko
This is very sad. Comraqde Mawande contributed immensely in this blog. I have been wondering why he has been absent from discussions. We should pay a homage for this great son of the soil. Izwe Lethu -Original Message- From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On

Re: [PAYCO] Resuscitating the PAC

2012-06-13 Thread thomo.nkgadima
Sent via Nokia Email --Original message-- From: Thembeka Majali themb...@aidc.org.za To: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 1:22:16 PM GMT+0200 Subject: [PAYCO] Resuscitating the PAC An interesting document presented at the Gauteng consultative conference, sharing

Re: [PAYCO] LINE UP FORTHCOMING JULY CONGRESS

2012-06-03 Thread linda ndebele
...@gmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 10:14:38 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] LINE UP FORTHCOMING JULY CONGRESS Other so called African are operating like aids virus with the movement and would love to see it dying the natural

Re: [PAYCO] Twin-Challenge for the PAC post 1994

2012-06-03 Thread Mavela Mavela
Mmbara Sent: 31 May 2012 08:43 AM To: PAYCO Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Twin-Challenge for the PAC post 1994 MuAfurika Mashao, I thinks its noble that in your response to the step by step solution requested by Cde Motswaledi there is no mention of a congress and of a list of people who should

RE: [PAYCO] Twin-Challenge for the PAC post 1994

2012-06-01 Thread Nkrumah Kgagudi
] On Behalf Of Hulisani Mmbara Sent: 31 May 2012 09:44 PM To: PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Twin-Challenge for the PAC post 1994 It is encouraging to hear that PAC still has members who are committed to pay the ultimate price for the good of our people. The relevance

RE: [PAYCO] Twin-Challenge for the PAC post 1994

2012-06-01 Thread Nkrumah Kgagudi
and collective abilities including talents that PAC can emerge victorious. Nkrumah -Original Message- From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hulisani Mmbara Sent: 31 May 2012 09:44 PM To: PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP Subject: Re: [PAYCO

Re: [PAYCO] Twin-Challenge for the PAC post 1994

2012-05-31 Thread Hulisani Mmbara
! Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: percy motswaledi kpl...@webmail.co.za Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 09:55:49 To: payco@googlegroups.com; mmas...@webmail.co.za Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Twin-Challenge for the PAC post 1994 Thanks son of the soil

Re: [PAYCO] LINE UP FORTHCOMING JULY CONGRESS

2012-05-30 Thread Mavela Mavela
...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] LINE UP FORTHCOMING JULY CONGRESS To: PAYCO payco@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, May 28, 2012, 7:47 PM So Carl Zimbiri does exist after all? Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: linda ndebele

Re: [PAYCO] We must rebel at home and abroad

2012-05-30 Thread Pasika Nontshiza
As we speak Mrs Mpendulo is without electricity,her been on the auction list, I don't for how many times. Mr Mpendulo is frail,in and out of hospital. De Klerk is riding the crest of the wave addressing seminars talking nonsense.Charity begins at home,De Klerk is the classic case of being sent

Re: [PAYCO] LINE UP FORTHCOMING JULY CONGRESS

2012-05-28 Thread linda ndebele
For interest sake force, why you state provinces after the name of a comrade? Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Mphiri masoga mphi...@gmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 17:31:59 To: payco@googlegroups.com

Re: [PAYCO] LINE UP FORTHCOMING JULY CONGRESS

2012-05-28 Thread Xola
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] LINE UP FORTHCOMING JULY CONGRESS For interest sake force, why you state provinces after the name of a comrade? Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Mphiri masoga mphi...@gmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date

Re: [PAYCO] LINE UP FORTHCOMING JULY CONGRESS

2012-05-28 Thread Mphiri masoga
BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: linda ndebele kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 16:42:33 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] LINE UP FORTHCOMING JULY

Re: [PAYCO] NATIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION: DIAGNOTSIC REPORT AND VISION 2030

2012-05-28 Thread Bongani Keith
With regard to PASMA i don't believe there's such a critical scrutiny to the NPC towards 2030! On 5/18/12, Nkrumah Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings comrades Is Payco and PASMA formulating political policy responses to the National Planning Commission's Diagnostic Report and

Re: [PAYCO] Twin-Challenge for the PAC post 1994

2012-05-26 Thread Hulisani Mmbara
Thanks comrade Mashao for the input, it has depth and context. I still say only those who are prepared to die for the cause of our people should lead. And I mean die as in the biological disintegration of body, soul and spirit and the body becomes lifeless. Lack of commitment to die for the

Re: [PAYCO] Twin-Challenge for the PAC post 1994

2012-05-26 Thread linda ndebele
Message- From: mmas...@webmail.co.za Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 10:52:17 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Twin-Challenge for the PAC post 1994 I suppose your first paragraph is a microcosm of what our combat should entail

Re: [PAYCO] Twin-Challenge for the PAC post 1994

2012-05-26 Thread mmashao
@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Twin-Challenge for the PAC post 1994 Greetings dear Pan Africanist, Great take cde Mmbara and Mashao, I want to confirm the reality that you've spoken about regarding comrades employed by parastatals and government. If you work

Re: [PAYCO] Black people are incapable of being racists

2012-05-23 Thread Jaki Seroke
Good day I find that Andile's comments are spot on. In today's heteronomy (plural society), political and economic power is skewed in favour of the descendants of foreign invasion. Politically, the dominating views are based on a falsehood propounded by the strictures of the 1956 Kliptown

Re: [PAYCO] PROF KWANDIWE KONDLO ON SACP

2012-05-23 Thread Jaki Seroke
2012 21:56:25 +0200 Subject: Re: [PAYCO] From: sbusiso.x...@gmail.com To: payco@googlegroups.com Dear Comrade Dr. Khondlo is a real intellectual. He does not fear to kill holy cows. I think he has captured  crisis of SACP extremely well. I was fascinated by: 1. His practical definition of SACP

Re: [PAYCO] Interview

2012-05-17 Thread AliH
This was terrible. The comrade was late for the interview. Clearly he did not prepare and what did he say Ali Khangela Hlongwane Chief Curator: Museum Africa 121 Bree Street Newtown 2001 Box 517 Newtown Tel:(011) 833 5624 Fax:(011)833 5636 Cell: 082 4639869

Re: [PAYCO] Interview

2012-05-17 Thread mllolwana
: Re: [PAYCO] Interview This was terrible. The comrade was late for the interview. Clearly he did not prepare and what did he say Ali Khangela Hlongwane Chief Curator: Museum Africa 121 Bree Street Newtown 2001 Box 517 Newtown Tel:(011) 833 5624 Fax:(011)833 5636 Cell: 082

RE: [PAYCO] Interview

2012-05-17 Thread Sebenzile Mlaza
Comrades, To be quite frank with you comrades, Mlambo is clearly campaigning for Stanley Mogoba... From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of mllolw...@gmail.com Sent: 17 May 2012 01:51 To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Interview Mlambo could have

RE: [PAYCO] Interview

2012-05-17 Thread AliH
electronically and is therefore not signed) Sebenzile Mlaza sebenzi...@raf.co.za Sent by: payco@googlegroups.com 05/17/2012 02:32 PM Please respond to payco To: 'payco@googlegroups.com' payco@googlegroups.com cc: Subject:RE: [PAYCO] Interview Comrades

Re: [PAYCO] Interview

2012-05-17 Thread mllolwana
@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Interview Greetings, The old man wasted such a valueable airtime. He was there to give praises to his friends and read their CV's. He really failed the party today. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you

RE: [PAYCO] Interview

2012-05-17 Thread Mduduzi Sibeko
Does Stanley have some ambitions of leading the PAC now ? From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sebenzile Mlaza Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 2:33 PM To: 'payco@googlegroups.com' Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Interview Comrades, To be quite frank with you comrades

Re: [PAYCO] Interview

2012-05-17 Thread mmashao
of you have offered suggestions. It is time we move to execution. Matome Sent from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: mllolw...@gmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 13:23:59 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO

Re: [PAYCO] Interview

2012-05-17 Thread linda ndebele
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Interview I am in full agreement that a rare opportunity such as today was could have been exploited differently. These in the end are manifestations that the centre does not hold. In this regard while I note the 20 minutes radio performance by comrade Mlambo, my issue

Re: [PAYCO] Interview

2012-05-17 Thread sipho mnguni
when mr xaba,on what time actually? On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Sbu Xaba sbusiso.x...@gmail.com wrote: Cde Mlambo will be with Siki Mgabadeli on SAFM -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also

Re: [PAYCO] Interview

2012-05-17 Thread Zukisa Mxesibe
MXM you starting to be boring now can you all stop this childish act and start building PAC, seemingly you are competing with evryone who is trying to assist PAC. Ma'Afrika this is not building or Unity. On 17 May 2012 13:48, a...@joburg.org.za wrote: http://brand.joburg.org.za/rs/gw8VUL

Re: [PAYCO]

2012-05-08 Thread Sbusiso Xaba
Dear Comrade Dr. Khondlo is a real intellectual. He does not fear to kill holy cows. I think he has captured crisis of SACP extremely well. I was fascinated by: 1. His practical definition of SACP as liberal party. 2. His attack of vanguard party concept. 3. His criticism of two stage

Re: [PAYCO] PAC and AZAPO on etv's the JUSTICE FACTOR

2012-05-07 Thread Snow Mokgalabone
Morning, I lost hope forever, A simple question or issue of a defunct website could not even be answered. Why is the party that perceives itself to be so vanguard not have a website? The two gentleman disappointed the already disgruntled masses. Ta On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Jaki Seroke

Re: [PAYCO] PAC and AZAPO on etv's the JUSTICE FACTOR

2012-05-07 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
Habari All should regret the moment and day Letlapa Mphahlele became the PAC president, above all what lessons does this teach us. PAC members continues to pay heavy prices for such a mistake. Let us think about those who made lifetime sacrifices building PAC to be a respectable party! What has

Re: [PAYCO] The PAC is ready for a National Congress

2012-05-04 Thread sandla. mvikeli
On Wed, 2 May 2012 16:00:19 +0200 Narius Moloto wrote Comrades It must be clear comrades no one stands against unity, in fact I personally attended many unity meetings called by different people in the past and for sure will do so in the future should it become necessary. However to suggest

Re: RE: [PAYCO] SOBUKWE WILL NEVER DIE

2012-04-13 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
in disguise ? From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:28 PM To: payco@googlegroups.com Cc: Sbu Xaba; Jaki Seroke Subject: Re: RE: [PAYCO] SOBUKWE WILL NEVER DIE The functioning of democracy

RE: [PAYCO] Thoughts on the leadership challenge in the party

2012-04-10 Thread Nkrumah Kgagudi
Dear Comrades The continued debates about the state of the party is an indication primarily of the prevalent state of analysis paralysis characterised by high degree of patronage, diminished conviction on principled acts, rooted factionalism, egocentrism and personality cults consequently lost

Re: [PAYCO] Thoughts on the leadership challenge in the party

2012-04-07 Thread Chargein Mabaso
M-Afrika, your input is inspiring. Our three greatest mistakes are: 1. Our Party is abandoned by its own cadres, its backbone. Private family matters count most to most cadres today. Revolution comes second. There are no professional revolutionaries who take revolution as their fulltime

Re: RE: [PAYCO] SOBUKWE WILL NEVER DIE

2012-04-05 Thread Chargein Mabaso
: Re: RE: [PAYCO] SOBUKWE WILL NEVER DIE The functioning of democracy within the free market system which inherently permits a few to control the means of production and distribution will logically result to democarcy serving few. Therefore social engineering will be premised on the basis

Re: RE: [PAYCO] SOBUKWE WILL NEVER DIE

2012-04-05 Thread Chargein Mabaso
: Re: RE: [PAYCO] SOBUKWE WILL NEVER DIE The functioning of democracy within the free market system which inherently permits a few to control the means of production and distribution will logically result to democarcy serving few. Therefore social engineering will be premised on the basis

Re: RE: [PAYCO] SOBUKWE WILL NEVER DIE

2012-04-04 Thread Jaki Seroke
to the debate. Jaki Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Mduduzi Sibeko msib...@randwater.co.za Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 14:15:00 To: payco@googlegroups.com Cc: sbusiso.x...@gmail.com; sero...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: RE: [PAYCO] SOBUKWE

RE: [PAYCO]

2012-03-26 Thread Jaki Seroke
Mduduzi I realise the widespread lack of information and knowledge, even among some of our own comrades, which leads others to speak out of turn, sometimes misrepresenting facts and appearing dull and dour when subjects they are supposed to be familiar with are discussed in the open. We

RE: [PAYCO]

2012-03-23 Thread Jaki Seroke
M'afrika Christine Qunta, an Africanist who served on the SABC Board during the Thabo Mbeki era, should be congratulated for the success in insisting that the public broadcaster spend up to R4m on the documentary. The outcomes of the work done, and the footage makes for interesting viewing

Re: [PAYCO] Resolutions of 26 November Summit

2012-03-05 Thread AliH
An unending well of inspiration A tribute to Mangaliso Sobukwe Veli Mbele 2012-03-01, Issue 572 http://pambazuka.org/en/category/features/80374 cc M K How it is that a man who gave so much to his people's quest for dignity has become a mere footnote in the contemporary narrative of the

RE: [PAYCO]

2012-02-22 Thread Jaki Seroke
A quick response to your concerns: Anyone who has not read or came across the rubric (the framing of the discourse) on why the Pan Africans rejected the Muscovite communism will always assume - as the press has always done - that the PAC and its associates are against the ideals of a new

Re: [PAYCO]

2012-02-22 Thread linda ndebele
Seroke sero...@hotmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:31:57 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [PAYCO] A quick response to your concerns: Anyone who has not read or came across the rubric (the framing of the discourse) on why

RE: [PAYCO]

2012-02-22 Thread Jaki Seroke
our views. They now only know that Mphahlele is a tyrant who argues with a knuckle duster and think that his one man show is the best thing. He and his cohorts do not know the PAC and the Africdan people. Subject: Re: [PAYCO] To: payco@googlegroups.com From: kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za Date

RE: [PAYCO]

2012-02-22 Thread Walter Molapo
and the Africdan people. Subject: Re: [PAYCO] To: payco@googlegroups.com From: kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:41:49 + For me it makes no sense other than political expediency for the YCL to cry foul play and present itself as a champion of the indigenous African

Re: [PAYCO] Fw: DECREE

2012-02-18 Thread Gerald Lerobane
izwe lethu ma afrika can anyone who have the 2000 constitution please post it in the groups its urgent. gerald lerobane On 2/16/12, Mthembu Ngciki mthembu.si...@yahoo.com wrote: Cde Mmbara, This person, the former President really is a lunatic, who is obsessed with power. He is only trying to

Re: [PAYCO] Fw: DECREE

2012-02-16 Thread Mthembu Ngciki
Cde Mmbara, This person, the former President really is a lunatic, who is obsessed with power. He is only trying to protect his Parliamentary seat and those of his lackeys that he appointed as Councillors to represent the PAC in Municipal Councils. This invoking of section 14b is nothing just

Re: [PAYCO] Fw: DECREE

2012-02-15 Thread mmashao
...@webmail.co.za Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 05:39:11 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Fw: DECREE Greetings comrades, The absurdity of this Decree is that it is invoked outside the parameters and limitations

Re: [PAYCO] FW: VACANCY INTERNSHIP PROGRAMME - 2012

2012-02-13 Thread Brenda Ndlovu
On 2/13/12, Sebenzile Mlaza sebenzi...@raf.co.za wrote: From: Phathiwe Keti Sent: 13 February 2012 01:33 To: *Johannesburg Branch Mail List Subject: FW: VACANCY INTERNSHIP PROGRAMME - 2012 From: Mdluli, Rosemary (SCAW SA) [mailto:rosemary.mdl...@scaw.co.za] Sent: 13 February 2012 01:27

Re: [PAYCO] PAC and the Court Ruling

2012-02-10 Thread Chargein Mabaso
Comrades Letlapa lost the court appeal. We have been proved right on the violation of the PAC. But, who will bell the cat within the PAC, and how? Let's wait and see. Power struggles and smear campaigns that always divide the Pan Africanist camp will now show its ugly face instead of focusing at

Re: [PAYCO] PAC and the Court Ruling

2012-02-10 Thread AliH
Cde Chargin This is an opportunity for you to dismantle PAM and be part of the challenge you have pointed out. Ali Khangela Hlongwane Chief Curator: Museum Africa 121 Bree Street Newtown 2001 Box 517 Newtown Tel:(011) 833 5624 Fax:(011)833 5636 Cell: 082 4639869

Re: [PAYCO] SOBUKWE DAY 2012 INVITE

2012-02-10 Thread BabaBuntu
MoAfrika, Thank you for the invitation. Great to see this initiative. Since I failed to be available when you invited me to speak last year, I would like to make myself available this year. Ebukhosini is having Afrikan Lunch on the same date, but if you can give me a specific time I will devote at

Re: [PAYCO] SOBUKWE DAY 2012 INVITE

2012-02-10 Thread Xola George Tyamzashe
Izwe lethu Baba Buntu   A 10 minute speech will be greatly appreciated noble son of the African soil.   Remember Afrika   Xola  From: BabaBuntu bu...@ebukhosinisolutions.co.za To: payco@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 11:52 AM Subject: Re

RE: [PAYCO] STRATEGIC PLANNING, IMPLEMENTATION AND CONTROL

2012-01-30 Thread Mduduzi Sibeko
To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [PAYCO] STRATEGIC PLANNING, IMPLEMENTATION AND CONTROL Cde Mduduzi I had an interesting discussion with a young revolutionary Pan Africanist early in the first week of this month. He posed the rubric that what was essential in sorting out the perennial

RE: [PAYCO] STRATEGIC PLANNING, IMPLEMENTATION AND CONTROL

2012-01-27 Thread Jaki Seroke
Cde Mduduzi I had an interesting discussion with a young revolutionary Pan Africanist early in the first week of this month. He posed the rubric that what was essential in sorting out the perennial difficulties of the PAC as a political party and its association with the worldwide Pan

Re: [PAYCO]

2011-11-01 Thread Xola
Courage, Unity, Action Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Mduduzi Sibeko msib...@randwater.co.za Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 08:25:31 To: payco@googlegroups.compayco@googlegroups.com Reply-To:

Re: [PAYCO] Khumbula i Afrika!

2011-10-10 Thread Mohlomphegi Mphahlele
Revolutionary Greetings   We must bear in mind that the very same pettit beaugeoasies want to create fuctionalism because they operate well under such circumstances. So those of us who are well conciuntised must not allow this people to rein in our party. Instead of becoming the very same

Re: [PAYCO] PITIKA NTULI

2011-10-04 Thread Jaki Seroke
Cde Sibeko I've known Pitika since 1978 when the Swazi government locked up PAC leaders in the area and they were made victims of circumstances, with PK Leballo feeling threatened as Acting President. A friend and comrade, Matsemela Manaka, had links with Bicca Maseko's family in Mbabane and

RE: [PAYCO] Fwd: Court application

2011-10-03 Thread Mduduzi Sibeko
Cde Seroke: Did the PAC and ANC discuss the issue of freedom fighters languishing in jails ? I have a relative who happens to be an MK member, I am told he has been in jail from 1988. Does the ANC itself have comrades that are in jails for military operations of armed struggle. Maybe, address

Re: [PAYCO] Digest for payco@googlegroups.com - 1 Message in 1 Topic

2011-09-29 Thread Abdurrahman Nelson
CPP will unite all Nkrumahists – Samia   News Date: 29th September 2011     The Convention Peoples’ Party (CPP), on Wednesday announced that it was reaching out to all other Nkrumahists including the Peoples’ National Convention (PNC) and Great Consolidated Popular Party (GCPP) to form one

Re: [PAYCO] FW:

2011-09-20 Thread Mzu Cabanga
Thanks comrade Mdu for the document. I will look at it when I find some time and come back with some comments on it. On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Mduduzi Sibeko msib...@randwater.co.zawrote: This email and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential and proprietary

Re: [PAYCO]

2011-09-19 Thread Mzu Cabanga
Cde Mdu, thanks for constantly making sure that this platform is used for what it was established for. I have noticed that many Pan Africanists admirer Gaddhafi and I have my reservations about that. I think firstly we need to understand how Arabs in the North became Africans. I think by now we

Re: [PAYCO]

2011-09-13 Thread kwamendebele
cde mduduzi, Its a very tricky and complex question you are raising, but unfortunately it warrants a response. The economic policy position of the PAC should be anchored on objective number 3 in the aims and objectives of the PAC which is, the creation of an Africanist Socialist Democratic

Re: [PAYCO] The Late MmAfrika Joe Moabi

2011-09-13 Thread Serame Mokgakala
Please forward my Family's condolences to the Moabi Family. I always had Joe in high regard. May his soul rest in peace. On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Xola tyamza...@yahoo.com wrote: Cde Joe Moabi's, former member of the PAC Central Committee Secretary for Finance in Tanzania, memorial

Re: [PAYCO]

2011-09-13 Thread Jaki Seroke
we formulate economic policy. Jaki Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:58:27 To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] cde mduduzi,Its a very tricky and complex question you

Re: [PAYCO] Fw:  COMMEMRATION OF THE FIFTIETH ANNIVERSA RY OF POQO/APLA - By Sam Ditshego

2011-09-12 Thread zuko siphiwe
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 06:49:16 + Xola tyamza...@yahoo.com wrote Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: jmapla...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 05:48:44 To: Xola Tyamzashetyamza...@yahoo.com Reply-To: jmapla...@gmail.com Cc:

RE: [PAYCO] EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE - A LEADERSHIP IMPERATIVE

2011-09-12 Thread Mduduzi Sibeko
Cde Seroke: I saw your email Saturday,l as I was working an overtime. Due to workload, I could not read nor have time to decipher its import. Suffice to say it was more of an academic discourse. My supervisor picked it up on top of the printer as I had forgotten it there when I went outside.

Re: [PAYCO] FW: The Gaddafi they are not telling us about

2011-09-08 Thread kwamendebele
Now that Libyans have allowed themselves to be recolonized under the pretext of democracy they would loose everything and every privilege they enjoyed under the so called Gadaffi dictatorship. Their oil would never benefit them as our gold, diamond and platinum is not serving nor benefiting us.

Re: [PAYCO]

2011-09-05 Thread Mzu Cabanga
Dear comrade Mdu, I am sorry I took so long to respond to your email as I had to go and rest in the villages of EC. I never gave it much thought because I felt that he is a hypocrite. He had the chance to raise such issues when he was leading the TRC but he was silent on such an issue. He is also

Re: [PAYCO]

2011-09-05 Thread Mzu Cabanga
I also heard in an interview on Sunrise which is the morning show on ETV and he supports us. I am not sure if reparations will be enough to cange the plight of the poor however I know complete repossesion of our land and wealth will change it. he only question now I think we need to answer is Do

Re: [PAYCO]

2011-09-05 Thread Jaki Seroke
Comrades Mzu and Mdu I'm not excited with the Arch's promptings for a wealth tax for whites. I suppose I should declare my scepticism. Tutu's strategy to super-impose his views and channel public opinion in a path where high expectations are neutralised and anger watered down, with the

RE: [PAYCO] White and Proud - A comment by a white liberal on Wonkie cartoons

2011-08-26 Thread Elijah Skhosana
To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] White and Proud - A comment by a white liberal on Wonkie cartoons Prof. De Vos, once chair the commission of Gay and Lesbian committee b4 the clause was adopted, has a notorious tendency of defending a tooth next door. His stats lack demography

RE: [PAYCO] FW:

2011-08-22 Thread Jaki Seroke
Cde Sbu I had the flu last week and couldn't respond in time to the issues you raised in the your interesting email. Several other topical matters of the day arose, such as the sudden death of Rex Nhongo (Gen Solomon Mujuru) in Zimbabwe and what this implies to ZANU-PF, and the continuing

Re: [PAYCO] Former APLA members without Force Numbers

2011-08-21 Thread Xola
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Former APLA members without Force Numbers I am a former member of the High Command of APLA and have remained in exile. Please forward this to Major Gen Dan Romero Mofokeng who might know my details. Please ask him to call me at 001-416 746 1382. Izwe Lethu!! On Sun

Re: [PAYCO]

2011-08-11 Thread Mzu Cabanga
*To:* payco@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [PAYCO] ** ** Dear Comrade Mdu: Firstly I thank you for raising such a thought provoking issue which is critical to all Pan Africanist. I also think it is rather harsh to say my thoughts exhibit the highest form of racial extremism

Re: [PAYCO] FW: BANKSETA Application forms

2011-08-10 Thread Andile Mbangeni
Thank you for the learner ship application forms but Cadres pls i really do not want to enter into fund raising scheme i am really not into blackmails, now can you please inform me into more detail about the learner ship i am so interested. pls

Re: [PAYCO]

2011-08-10 Thread Mzu Cabanga
Dear Comrade Mdu: Firstly I thank you for raising such a thought provoking issue which is critical to all Pan Africanist. I also think it is rather harsh to say my thoughts exhibit the highest form of racial extremism but that is also your opinion. I will also consider your suggestion of

Re: [PAYCO]

2011-08-10 Thread Mzu Cabanga
*To:* payco@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [PAYCO] ** ** Dear Comrade Mdu: Firstly I thank you for raising such a thought provoking issue which is critical to all Pan Africanist. I also think it is rather harsh to say my thoughts exhibit the highest form of racial extremism

RE: [PAYCO] Why Revolutionary Pluralism Works and Fragmentationism is Destructive

2011-08-03 Thread ngca...@gmail.com
cidi Xhola Thank you Well articulated Thank you Izwe! Sent from my Nokia phone -Original Message- From: Xola Sent: 03/08/2011 09:59:57 Subject: [PAYCO] Why Revolutionary Pluralism Works and Fragmentationism is Destructive Khumbula i Afrika! There is always strength in principled

RE: [PAYCO] SACP 90th Birthday

2011-07-29 Thread Sebenzile Mlaza
Revolutionary greetings all, I’ve in the past tried (hopefully not in vain) putting my standpoint across, not that it will make any difference at any rate, regarding the South African Communist Party (SACP) - it is just a storm in a tea-cup. Like Nelson Mandela's blinkered Long Walk To

Re: [PAYCO] PASMA NEC

2011-07-25 Thread Andile Mbangeni
On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 11:06:56 +0200 Hulisani Mmbara wrote Dear Comrades Here is the list of the newly elected PASMA NEC members following PASMA National Congress last week: President: Thabani Smoll Zondo Deputy President: Edward Eddie Mfulwane Secretary General: Sinazo Sipuka Deputy

Re: [PAYCO] Mandela

2011-07-19 Thread Linda Ndebele
Izwe Lethu! Yesterday was the worst day of my life. I had to fight and denounce people I respected and once admired for supporting and heroworshipping Mandela. Ofcourse the worst damage was done on kids who were told all kinds of lies by their parents, media, teachers and church leaders about

RE: [PAYCO] Mandela

2011-07-19 Thread Justice
: 19 July 2011 12:10 To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Mandela Izwe Lethu! Yesterday was the worst day of my life. I had to fight and denounce people I respected and once admired for supporting and heroworshipping Mandela. Ofcourse the worst damage was done on kids who were told all

Re: [PAYCO] Mandela

2011-07-19 Thread Mzu Cabanga
] *On Behalf Of *Linda Ndebele *Sent:* 19 July 2011 12:10 *To:* payco@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [PAYCO] Mandela ** ** Izwe Lethu! Yesterday was the worst day of my life. I had to fight and denounce people I respected and once admired for supporting and heroworshipping Mandela

RE: [PAYCO]

2011-07-15 Thread Mduduzi Sibeko
: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mzu Cabanga Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 5:10 PM To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] It is not for me as an individual to come up with a solution for the Afrikans but all of the Afrikans collectively. Poqo we

Re: [PAYCO]

2011-07-15 Thread Mzu Cabanga
Of *Mzu Cabanga *Sent:* Thursday, July 14, 2011 5:10 PM *To:* payco@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [PAYCO] ** ** It is not for me as an individual to come up with a solution for the Afrikans but all of the Afrikans collectively. Poqo we cannot do as the charterists are doing currently

RE: [PAYCO]

2011-07-15 Thread Mduduzi Sibeko
To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] How do we then forsee this repossesion of our land if we still have the settler around. Driving white people in the sea is a very bad way of putting it but how do you think the white men is going to hand the land to us after centuries of bravery

RE: [PAYCO]

2011-07-15 Thread Elijah Skhosana
collar workers. We need to commit to a clearly defined strategy to rebuild our nation. Iphasi lekhethu alibuye Ma-Afrika Elijah From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mzu Cabanga Sent: 15 July 2011 09:08 AM To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO

Re: [PAYCO]

2011-07-15 Thread Mzu Cabanga
@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [PAYCO] ** ** How do we then forsee this repossesion of our land if we still have the settler around. Driving white people in the sea is a very bad way of putting it but how do you think the white men is going to hand the land to us after centuries of bravery

Re: [PAYCO] Re: PASMA 13th Congress Poster.jpg

2011-07-14 Thread Richman Mhlongo
Izwe Lethu Thembeka My name is M'afrika Bheki Mkhize from KZN, I am trying to establish or relaunch PASMA at Mangosuthu University of Technology the problem I have is not having PASMA CONSTITUTION could you email to me Please. My email:

Re: [PAYCO] Re: PASMA 13th Congress Poster.jpg

2011-07-14 Thread thabo mathiba
please wait for one from the congress now On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Richman Mhlongo inpdu...@webmail.co.zawrote: Izwe Lethu Thembeka My name is M'afrika Bheki Mkhize from KZN, I am trying to establish or relaunch PASMA at Mangosuthu University of Technology the problem I have is not

Re: [PAYCO]

2011-07-14 Thread Mzu Cabanga
It is not for me as an individual to come up with a solution for the Afrikans but all of the Afrikans collectively. Poqo we cannot do as the charterists are doing currently i.e. Presenting a solution for the masses as an elite that thinks they are more educated than the masses. Represantative

RE: [PAYCO]

2011-07-01 Thread eazy mampye
such politics and demand socialist workers state, obviously  realizing Petty racial politics of our country.   Ke shaetsa kere yalo mokgwaga  --- On Tue, 6/28/11, Mohlomphegi Mphahlele mohlomph...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Mohlomphegi Mphahlele mohlomph...@yahoo.com Subject: RE: [PAYCO] To: payco

Re: [PAYCO]

2011-07-01 Thread RAS MENELIK AZANIA
mohlomph...@yahoo.com Subject: RE: [PAYCO] To: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 4:48 PM Cdr Mduduzi and all other Africanists Race remains as Sobukwe has said a thorny issue. Like you comrade it is really difficult for me to separate an African from a Settler. However I

Re: [PAYCO]

2011-07-01 Thread RAS MENELIK AZANIA
/11, Mohlomphegi Mphahlele mohlomph...@yahoo.com*wrote: From: Mohlomphegi Mphahlele mohlomph...@yahoo.com Subject: RE: [PAYCO] To: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 4:48 PM Cdr Mduduzi and all other Africanists Race remains as Sobukwe has said a thorny issue. Like

Re: [PAYCO]

2011-07-01 Thread eazy mampye
wrote: From: RAS MENELIK AZANIA rasmenelikaza...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] To: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, July 1, 2011, 11:15 AM eazy   The historiography that you use is colonial. We are one people as Afrikans.   One Afrika One Nation! Izwe Lethu! On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:12

Re: [PAYCO]

2011-07-01 Thread Mzu Cabanga
AZANIA rasmenelikaza...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] To: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, July 1, 2011, 11:15 AM eazy The historiography that you use is colonial. We are one people as Afrikans. One Afrika One Nation! Izwe Lethu! On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:12 AM, RAS MENELIK AZANIA

RE: [PAYCO]

2011-06-29 Thread Mduduzi Sibeko
, June 28, 2011 3:49 PM To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Cdr Mduduzi and all other Africanists Race remains as Sobukwe has said a thorny issue. Like you comrade it is really difficult for me to separate an African from a Settler. However I pasted an extract from Sobukwe State

RE: [PAYCO]

2011-06-28 Thread Mohlomphegi Mphahlele
contradicting our selve thinking for people who care less about us.  --- On Wed, 6/22/11, Mduduzi Sibeko msib...@randwater.co.za wrote: From: Mduduzi Sibeko msib...@randwater.co.za Subject: RE: [PAYCO] To: payco@googlegroups.com payco@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 1:45 PM

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