Re: [NF] Big Brother has arrived?

2013-02-21 Thread Ken Dibble
fraud involving three monthly recurring purchases that they've paid for several years Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version

Re: [NF] Government Software Controls

2013-02-24 Thread Ken Dibble
[OT]. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http

RE: A VERY Strange Error!

2013-02-25 Thread Ken Dibble
enough with reports that I will save every 2-3 minutes when working with them. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list

Re: VFP Metro Interface

2013-02-26 Thread Ken Dibble
is a 10-man logging crew with yarder, processor, and a fleet of trucks, everything looks like a forest. Makes it hard to see the trees. :) Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http

Re: Screen Res. Design Monitor Sizes...

2013-03-05 Thread Ken Dibble
result but at modest levels of resizing it looks quite good. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com

Re: What kind of moron sends data in an Excel with hidden columns?

2013-03-20 Thread Ken Dibble
to fix these things so I had to rewrite my already extremely fragile import code to try to deal with this. Job security, I guess. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com

Re: [NF] Microsoft's new graphics look (retro)

2013-03-21 Thread Ken Dibble
for the left-column links that a human being can actually distinguish from a white background Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version

Re: [NF] Opening Excel file wants to do 'SaveAs'

2013-03-21 Thread Ken Dibble
of Office and listen to them kvetch. No!! Absolutely not! Instead of asking me to make an extra keystroke, why don't you spend $300+ to get a new version of Office?! Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription

Re: [NF] A tale of two supports

2013-03-27 Thread Ken Dibble
. US Robotics 0/10 Welcome to the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation. http://www.sput.nl/~rob/sirius.html Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT

Options to Prevent Crashes When User Shuts Down Computer

2013-04-01 Thread Ken Dibble
* in that scenario, 3. What VFP is *supposed* to do if it is still running when Windows starts yanking its resources away during an OS shutdown, and 4. What VFP *actually does* in that scenario. Thanks for any help. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post

RE: Options to Prevent Crashes When User Shuts Down Computer

2013-04-01 Thread Ken Dibble
routine. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http

Re: Options to Prevent Crashes When User Shuts Down Computer

2013-04-01 Thread Ken Dibble
or less. p.s. I hate the new gmail reply system They fell in love with outlook I guess. I hate gmail in general. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox

RE: Options to Prevent Crashes When User Shuts Down Computer

2013-04-01 Thread Ken Dibble
down Windows, which calls my ON SHUTDOWN routine, which asks the user what to do? What happens to that modal Messagebox if there's no response from the user? Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance

Re: Options to Prevent Crashes When User Shuts Down Computer

2013-04-01 Thread Ken Dibble
: As I understand it, Windows is *supposed* to respect an application's exit process during shutdown, and VFP's ON SHUTDOWN procedure is *supposed* to be able to execute undisturbed in that scenario. Is there anything I can do to ensure that it does so? Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org

Re: Options to Prevent Crashes When User Shuts Down Computer

2013-04-02 Thread Ken Dibble
you're saying is that I have to expect errors even in these processes if the user doesn't follow instructions regarding how to shut down the system? There is nothing I can do to defend against that? Thanks. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post

Re: Options to Prevent Crashes When User Shuts Down Computer

2013-04-02 Thread Ken Dibble
. But if you did, how can I accomplish those necessary and brief tasks when the user shuts down the system? Thanks. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT

Re: Options to Prevent Crashes When User Shuts Down Computer

2013-04-02 Thread Ken Dibble
the suggestion that I ask users if they want my application to shut down Windows after closing. How do people feel about this approach? Thanks. Ken Dibble ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman

RE: Options to Prevent Crashes When User Shuts Down Computer

2013-04-02 Thread Ken Dibble
are running your long procedure. Ah, thanks! I will test these. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http

RE: Options to Prevent Crashes When User Shuts Down Computer

2013-04-03 Thread Ken Dibble
needed, and was starting to look around for a code example. Serendipity! Thanks. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list

RE: Options to Prevent Crashes When User Shuts Down Computer

2013-04-03 Thread Ken Dibble
At 11:52 AM 4/3/2013 -0400, you wrote: Ken Dibble wrote on 2013-04-03: Look at that, Calvin blogged about this: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/calvin_hsia/archive/2005/01/24/359713.aspx Amazing! When this message came in, I had just finished reading Doug Hennig's white paper on binding Windows

Unbearable Lightness/Heaviness of Arrays

2013-04-04 Thread Ken Dibble
, I would sure appreciate it. Thanks. Yours in Keeping VFP Something to Talk About, Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version

Re: Unbearable Lightness/Heaviness of Arrays

2013-04-05 Thread Ken Dibble
still require a new stack level for each call. Ah well. It was a cool idea. Thanks to all who responded. This is the fun stuff. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com

RE: Unbearable Lightness/Heaviness of Arrays

2013-04-05 Thread Ken Dibble
then. Thanks. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http

RE: Unbearable Lightness/Heaviness of Arrays

2013-04-05 Thread Ken Dibble
will be able to use Dabo to do that kind of thing when I get to that point, which is a good thing--if Dabo is still around then. *LOL* Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com

Re: Unbearable Lightness/Heaviness of Arrays

2013-04-05 Thread Ken Dibble
of error when I start porting it over. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo

Re: WTF??? File Is Not Open!

2013-04-09 Thread Ken Dibble
occurs after you've followed the above steps to ensure that nothing remains in memory before compiling, then I would guess you have a corrupted file. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http

RE: WTF??? File Is Not Open!

2013-04-09 Thread Ken Dibble
of the project you're compiling. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech

RE: WTF??? File Is Not Open!

2013-04-09 Thread Ken Dibble
have a project open in the first instance that the second instance tries to open again. (I know, I know, I should set my VFP IDE preferences to multi-user... Old habits die hard.) Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

RE: WTF??? File Is Not Open!

2013-04-09 Thread Ken Dibble
that we're in test mode so they will run properly also. This took a long time to get working properly but now that I have it, it saves a huge amount of time when testing. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

RE: WTF??? File Is Not Open!

2013-04-09 Thread Ken Dibble
that I have open for editing. That I expect. What I don't think should happen, but have come to expect, is that any of that stuff should remain in memory after a test sequence's stack has run out. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages

Re: [NF] Next challenge over lunchtime -- the neighbor bought a Mac!

2013-04-11 Thread Ken Dibble
It says that it is a kid's shirt. You need to grow up, man! Try: http://xkcd.com/627/ And I think that a T-shirt has been made for it. I have that one on the wall outside my office door. Doesn't do any good... Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org

Re: WTF??? File Is Not Open!

2013-04-15 Thread Ken Dibble
copies everything to the local drive and compiles several times without error, that would have to be it, I think. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox

RE: WTF??? File Is Not Open!

2013-04-15 Thread Ken Dibble
you can find out is to compile it locally for a while and see if the problem recurs. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version

RE: WTF??? File Is Not Open!

2013-04-15 Thread Ken Dibble
had NICs and switch ports fail within months of purchase. Heck, I've found bad ports on new switches the first time I tried to use them. Age is no guarantee of quality for hardware or humans. :) Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages

Re: Using Grids / Fwd: Trouble with ProFox

2013-04-19 Thread Ken Dibble
be fully encapsulated within the list control. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman

Re: [NF] Neat scanner system info and questions

2013-04-22 Thread Ken Dibble
the scan resolution (with a sacrifice in ppm, of course). Also, the stuff made for blind people, such as OpenBook, works quite well for most things. Nothing is going to do a good job with handwriting though. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post

Re: Odd Error with CHRSAW()

2013-04-22 Thread Ken Dibble
IF foo = [whatever] * Your code here ENDIF I'm sure that's obvious though. :) Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list

RE: [NF] Neat scanner system info and questions

2013-04-22 Thread Ken Dibble
use screen-reader software unless the text has been OCR'ed on its way into the PDF.) Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version

RE: [NF] Neat scanner system info and questions

2013-04-22 Thread Ken Dibble
. :) Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http

Re: [NF] Neat scanner system info and questions

2013-04-22 Thread Ken Dibble
. We've hired a full-time person who is going to have to pick through all this stuff and figure it out, probably at a painfully slow pace. The system we're using is Treeno. It's already ugly... Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages

RE: [NF] Neat scanner system info and questions

2013-04-23 Thread Ken Dibble
management software I will still have the documents. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman

Re: [NF] Neat scanner system info and questions

2013-04-23 Thread Ken Dibble
administrative training on this new system. I could have had a much simpler and cheaper system in place by now. Oh well... Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman

RE: [NF] Neat scanner system info and questions

2013-04-23 Thread Ken Dibble
document storage locations via Windows Explorer would only be available to users with suitable permissions. In my case, that would be *me*; nobody else would be able to get to those locations. They'll be on a server to which I have the password, and not shared out to the network. Ken Dibble

Re: [NF] Neat scanner system info and questions

2013-04-23 Thread Ken Dibble
not correspond to the medical model and we intend to keep it that way, so we are not likely ever to use software to control how we handle information. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http

Re: [NF] Neat scanner system info and questions

2013-04-23 Thread Ken Dibble
does it prevent data from being subpoenaed by a court of law, and there are lots of other exceptions. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free

Re: [NF] The Tech Industry's Darkest Secret: It's All About Age

2013-04-25 Thread Ken Dibble
to actually follow what is being presented in real time and think about how it will be used, step by step. It's not even a question of motivation or laziness. They simply don't have the necessary prerequisite experience to look at learning in that way. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org

RE: Review of My Application

2013-04-25 Thread Ken Dibble
simple problems but the more complex and layered a form gets, the less likely it is to work properly, or be flexible enough, all the time. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http

Re: [NF] The Tech Industry’s Darkest Secr et : It’s All About Age

2013-04-25 Thread Ken Dibble
believed in capitalism and free market competition. Are you afraid to compete with foreigners? There is no excuse here, with an H1B they will be paying the same taxes and living expenses you are. What are you, socialists? Nah, they're populists. *LOL* Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org

Re: primary or unique index

2013-04-25 Thread Ken Dibble
is thinking of? Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive

RE: Review of My Application

2013-04-25 Thread Ken Dibble
. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com

Re: Review of My Application

2013-04-26 Thread Ken Dibble
Very clear description, inspiring, thanks Thierry Nivelet Thanks, Thierry. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list

[NF] Standard Email Sender Verification Procedures

2013-04-29 Thread Ken Dibble
sender verification strategy. I am not asking for a referral to some other email service provider. I am trying to understand what the options are for sender verify and why people use them. Thanks for any information. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org

Re: [NF] Standard Email Sender Verification Procedures

2013-04-29 Thread Ken Dibble
IT department in an agency of nearly 100 computer users. I barely have time to do what I already have to do. :) Thanks, Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo

Re: [NF] Standard Email Sender Verification Procedures

2013-04-29 Thread Ken Dibble
that's a valid existing address. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech

Re: [NF] Standard Email Sender Verification Procedures

2013-04-29 Thread Ken Dibble
provider. Can you (or anyone) perhaps suggest exactly what sequence of commands and responses I should ask my provider to use for sender verification? Thanks. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance

Re: [NF] Standard Email Sender Verification Procedures

2013-04-29 Thread Ken Dibble
other possible sources of results other than 250, and if the account actually exists, then his server should allow me to send messages. If it will help, I've included a (lightly) edited transcript of my email conversation with the provider about this, below. Thanks. Ken Dibble www.stic

Re: [NF] Standard Email Sender Verification Procedures

2013-04-29 Thread Ken Dibble
, before we even get to MAIL FROM: Thanks. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo

Re: [NF] Standard Email Sender Verification Procedures

2013-04-29 Thread Ken Dibble
to send an email. I see that with both Eudora and Thunderbird. What is being done with that password then, that isn't being done with Telnet? Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http

Re: [NF] Standard Email Sender Verification Procedures

2013-04-29 Thread Ken Dibble
then conclude that the account is valid? And, lastly, how does any of this inform my provider, who hosts many domains, that my domain not only exists, but is a domain that he hosts and for which he should provide SMTP service? Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org

Re: [NF] Standard Email Sender Verification Procedures

2013-04-29 Thread Ken Dibble
of Litella /Litella here over the years. :) So thanks. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman

Re: [NF] Standard Email Sender Verification Procedures

2013-04-30 Thread Ken Dibble
Your client needs the password to authenticate. The Telnet procedure should also be asking for a password It doesn't. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman

Re: [NF] Standard Email Sender Verification Procedures

2013-04-30 Thread Ken Dibble
turn out to be an option that I can use. If anyone else has any other thoughts, I'm very interested. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free

Re: [NF] Standard Email Sender Verification Procedures

2013-04-30 Thread Ken Dibble
I thought most email servers blocked telnet these days? That's what I thought, too. I was surprised that I was able to run the tests. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http

Re: [NF] Standard Email Sender Verification Procedures

2013-04-30 Thread Ken Dibble
(single user, multiple locations), webmail could be used, but I have yet to see a webmail interface that isn't slow, clunky, and somewhat error-ridden, even when used on a high-bandwidth service. Fat-client email applications are just faster, more flexible, and more reliable. Thanks. Ken Dibble

Re: [NF] Standard Email Sender Verification Procedures

2013-04-30 Thread Ken Dibble
server I can use, so I'm looking into that. Thanks. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman

Re: [NF] Standard Email Sender Verification Procedures

2013-04-30 Thread Ken Dibble
that would be way too disruptive. Of course, there's always early retirement... *LOL* Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http

Re: [NF] Standard Email Sender Verification Procedures

2013-04-30 Thread Ken Dibble
a) mailbox quota and b) current usage? Maybe I'll do a little research on it. Thanks! Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version

Re: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-04-30 Thread Ken Dibble
. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com

Re: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-04-30 Thread Ken Dibble
, and the keyboard will always be the most efficient way to do that. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com

Re: [NF] The Tech Industry's Darkest Secret: It's All About Age

2013-04-30 Thread Ken Dibble
platforms. Ironic that this is quoted on a VFP list. ;-) Well, some of us, when we find something, we quit looking for it. +1 Until it gets taken away from us... Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

RE: [NF] The Tech Industry's Darkest Secret: It's All About Age

2013-05-01 Thread Ken Dibble
it is. For example, I would still be running Windows 2000 today if I could get network-managed anti-virus software, and a version of Firefox that complies with modern AJAX-type requirements, to run on it. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages

RE: [ADMIN] Donation Request

2013-05-01 Thread Ken Dibble
A Melanie quote! Dang, you beat me. I was gonna ask him which brand new key he was singing that in. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT

Re: [ADMIN] Donation Request

2013-05-01 Thread Ken Dibble
And I'm in, putting you officially over the top... where I often can be found. :) Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list

Re: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-05-01 Thread Ken Dibble
don't want it to do long enough for me to jam a USB mouse into it. That is, when I deal with laptops at all, which I also hate... Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman

Re: [NF] The Tech Industry's Darkest Secret: It's All About Age

2013-05-01 Thread Ken Dibble
. Having worked in the disability services field for a very long time, I can tell you that probably 99% of the people who are chronically homeless have psychiatric or intellectual disabilities, or both. Those who are temporarily homeless (for a few months) are a different group. Ken Dibble

RE: [NF] The Tech Industry's Darkest Secret: It's All About Age

2013-05-01 Thread Ken Dibble
/309285/ Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http

Re: ProFox List Statistics for April 2013

2013-05-01 Thread Ken Dibble
when I can, as well, but usually several people have beaten me to the answer. (Or I don't know it!) Great resource. I would have said just about exactly the same thing--except that programming is only part of my more general IT job. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org

Re: ProFox List Statistics for April 2013

2013-05-01 Thread Ken Dibble
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/F3SHBB6 It will take you all of a minute to complete. I'll give it a few days and then post the results here. Done! Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription

RE: [NF] The Tech Industry's Darkest Secret: It's All About Age

2013-05-02 Thread Ken Dibble
that the software manufacturers would have no more trouble complying with them than the auto mechanics do. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version

Re: [NF] The Tech Industry's Darkest Secret: It's All About Age

2013-05-02 Thread Ken Dibble
be applied to software. But software manufacturere certainly will not make any effort to make the products safer or longer-lasting, or accept responsiblity for their quality, unless and until they are forced to. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post

RE: [NF] The Tech Industry's Darkest Secret: It's All About Age

2013-05-02 Thread Ken Dibble
in your muffler with a claw hammer and tells you that you need a new one will be charged with fraud and go to jail. When was the last time anybody at MS went to jail for deliberately breaking a product in order to force people to buy a new one? Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org

RE: [NF] The Tech Industry's Darkest Secret: It's All About Age

2013-05-02 Thread Ken Dibble
expensive software products do not come with free updates regardless of whether they include bug fixes. Try buying an expensive accounting package, for example, and then ask to get a bug fixed without having paid an arm and a leg for support. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org

Re: [NF] The Tech Industry's Darkest Secret: It's All About Age

2013-05-02 Thread Ken Dibble
You wouldn't have any software companies because the market had too many barriers to enter and or endure. This is the standard whine of all business people. When the regulations come, they stay in business and continue to make a profit. It's completely bogus. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org

Re: [NF] The Tech Industry's Darkest Secret: It's All About Age

2013-05-02 Thread Ken Dibble
) than we do in this country without significant negative impact on the economy. It's just that right-wing corporate types control the government and won't permit it to happen. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

Re: [NF] The Tech Industry's Darkest Secret: It's All About Age

2013-05-02 Thread Ken Dibble
it is unethical to try to collected added money when there is no real added value being provided. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version

Re: [NF] The Tech Industry's Darkest Secret: It's All About Age

2013-05-02 Thread Ken Dibble
, but I take your point. I'll stop if they will. :) Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman

Re: [NF] The Tech Industry's Darkest Secret: It's All About Age

2013-05-02 Thread Ken Dibble
economy. The problems in Europe result from having pulled some local economies into the Euro before they were fully-functioning modern economies, not from the typical western European approach to regulation. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post

Re: [NF] The Tech Industry's Darkest Secret: It's All About Age

2013-05-02 Thread Ken Dibble
features that people really need or want, that is not my problem. You have no business trying to force people to pay you to keep what they already have. I detest software as a service as much as I detest the new business of music rental that has sprung up in recent years. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org

[NF] MS to Release Windows 8.1

2013-05-08 Thread Ken Dibble
They're being cagey about what's in it but it would be nice if they'd throw in the towel and return to a direct boot to a desktop with a Start button. http://www.zdnet.com/what-microsoft-is-now-saying-and-not-about-windows-blue-714960/ Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org

Re: [NF] MS to Release Windows 8.1

2013-05-08 Thread Ken Dibble
if it gets to the point of having to buy a downgrade from Windows 8 to get 7, I'll probably do that, at least until the issue of whether MS is going to make 8 usable for a typical business office multi-tasking environment gets cleared up. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org

RE: [NF] MS to Release Windows 8.1

2013-05-08 Thread Ken Dibble
to communicate with other organizations. If it was a different world, I'd have migrated most of our people to Linux years ago. If anybody in the open source world wants to really get serious about .docx/.xlsx interoperability, I'm waiting with open arms. I know you're kidding. :) Ken Dibble

RE: [NF] MS to Release Windows 8.1

2013-05-08 Thread Ken Dibble
There was something on BBC news that Microsoft has done an about turn. No details though Yeah, there is word that early versions have leaked and they have these capabilities. But MS is refusing to say anything about it right now. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org

Re: [NF] MS to Release Windows 8.1

2013-05-08 Thread Ken Dibble
this easier if we have to upgrade software to a Metro-style app in the future. There's no way this could work if everything has to run full-screen. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http

Re: [NF] MS to Release Windows 8.1

2013-05-08 Thread Ken Dibble
, starting music, and other kinds of things that kids do. Yes, that's what I've heard. I was kind of looking forward (if that's the right expression; maybe dreading would be better) to the day when everything has to be done in the Modern app style. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org

Re: [NF] MS to Release Windows 8.1

2013-05-09 Thread Ken Dibble
anything of consequence while implying that we are. Too many companies have marketing departments seemingly made out of anti-matter. http://www.hhgproject.org/entries/siriuscyberneticscorp.html Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages

RE: [NF] MS to Release Windows 8.1

2013-05-09 Thread Ken Dibble
for something that I did that was, in retrospect, rather stupid. I felt good afterwards. I did not feel diminished. I feel very empowered as a result. There ya go, Gene--perpetuating the stereotypes about Canadians again. gdr Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org

Re: [NF] MS to Release Windows 8.1

2013-05-09 Thread Ken Dibble
. These people I'm talking about are fiends about it... at any given moment they have all these windows open, and at least one desk drawer and one file cabinet drawer open, and a stack of file folders on their desk, and they're cutting and pasting between ALL of them! Ken Dibble www.stic

Re: [NF] Japanese Ad for Windows 8

2013-05-09 Thread Ken Dibble
This is a 1-minute YouTube video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=eHhl78ximng I so wanna say something about that Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http

Re: [NF] Japanese Ad for Windows 8

2013-05-10 Thread Ken Dibble
This is a 1-minute YouTube video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=eHhl78ximng Okay. I think out of all the different things I could say about this, I like this one the best: People who prefer Windows 8 don't know their a$$ from a ping-pong paddle. Ken Dibble

RE: [NF] MS to Release Windows 8.1

2013-05-10 Thread Ken Dibble
All joking aside, a sincere apology can clear the air wonderfully. In my case, it literally* improved my eyesight. * Yes, literally. It actually happened. GuiltStressHypertensionVision problems, eh? Good for you! Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org

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