Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Rob Malos
Dear All, I am still intending to compile a list of everyone's suggestions and post them back to the group for comment. Also going to try to form this list into a database on egroups/yahoo if practical. Currently up to my neck in paid work though. Please be patient, and keep posting

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Geoff Harland
Some more items to add to this thread: - (Pcb Server): Add support for the text strings within Coordinate and Dimension items to be in a mirrored state. This would support such Coordinate and Dimension items being produced in an unmirrored state within printouts being produced in a mirrored state

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread John Haddy
My suggestion, which personally I rate at the top of my list, is the following: Currently, not all layers are created equal. In particular, the handling of the silk sreen layers and the mechanical layers in the DRC is different from that of signal layers. I want to apply DRC rules (where appropri

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 02:58 PM 1/03/2001 +1100, Geoff Harland said: >- (Pcb Server): Add support for *resizing* of a currently-focused fill >primitive using the *mouse*. That is, if you click on an edge or corner of a >currently-focused fill, then you can change the location of that (by >"dragging" it with the mous

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Mark Geddes
I'm still about 500 emails behind, so this may have already been addressed: Edi, I can customize the way a power object appears while in the tool-bar (by editing the .BMP), but my custom bitmap doesn't appear when I try to place the power object. The default Protel power object is placed. The

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Geoff Harland
> I can customize the way a power object appears while in the tool-bar (by > editing the .BMP), but my custom bitmap doesn't appear when I try to place > the power object. The default Protel power object is placed. > > The only thing it appears we can edit is the color of power objects. > > This i

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
I was reminded again today of the old Tango complete route command. It was assigned to the forward slash key and it would interrupt the current route and reduce the display rat's nest connection line to track. It really shined when it came to doing gridded design with round off-grid pads. You

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel... (exgraphic images lost)

2001-05-07 Thread Geoff Harland
> Yes, I think it is the same as I had with the company - logo on the > schematic. > In the sheet ( or library part ) there is a link to the graphic file and not > the > graphic itself. Your collegue has probably not the same graphic in the same > path. > > Georg I have also had similar experienc

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Brian Guralnick
Yes. My suggestion was intended to offer a graphical means of association for the auto-placer within the schematic entry. Basically the 2D pictorial based preference generator would just automatically generate a component class db. _ Brian Guralnick - Original Message

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Dwight Harm
Brian, Have you seen/used component classes (or 'rooms')? They provide some of the facility you're describing, although not as flexible. The idea of having both preferred and disallowed areas for parts is interesting. To make use of this additional information, though, one would need an autopl

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Brian Guralnick

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Gene Silvernail
I second that. Actually anything that would homogenize the user interface between modules would be welcome. A HUI is likened to working with another human.if every time you reach out to shake hands you don't know if your getting the left or right hand in return, it becomes an annoyance. Gen

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Rudolf Schaffer
Terry Harris wrote: > On Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:58:12 -1000, you wrote: > > >One item I would like to see added to PCB is the use of a wild card (and a > >range) when placing components etc. > >i.e. 'edit' 'move' 'Component' U*. This would allow the user to place all > >designated components start

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Terry Harris
On Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:58:12 -1000, you wrote: >One item I would like to see added to PCB is the use of a wild card (and a >range) when placing components etc. >i.e. 'edit' 'move' 'Component' U*. This would allow the user to place all >designated components starting with the lowest value of U and

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Andrei Chermyanin
I agree. It would be better to have schematic power object symbols in separate library file and thus, fully editable. Rene Tschaggelar wrote: > The power objects in schematic are not elegant. > +5V_bar > +3.3V_bar > +15V_arraow > -5.2V_circle > GND_dig > GND_analog > Earth > Andrei * *

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread HxEngr

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Dwight Harm
re split planes -- change PCB so that the plane layer must be the CURRENT layer for the split to be editable. (How often do you edit the split, compared to ALL the other parts on the board!) I just did my first design that had one of these, and being CONSTANTLY prompted to choose between the spl

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Dwight Harm
All areas -- more consistent feature set, menus, and shortcut keys across processes. Some examples: 1) SP6 greatly enhanced the text editor, but someone forgot to update the shortcut keys on the Edit menu -- they're still listing the old Win3.x keys; fortunately the standard ones (Ctl+C,V,X,Z)

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Andrei Chermyanin
Edi Im Hof wrote: > >The power objects in schematic are not elegant. > > You can change this quite easy. (Customize|Toolbars|Wiring Tools) > The bitmaps of the buttons are in the directory "Design Explorer 99 > SE\System\Buttons" and can be copied and edited. I've changed ALL the > buttons. But

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 12:07 AM 6/02/2001 -0500, Andrew Jenkins said: >And one for service packs: > >Provide detailed lists of bug fixes for each and every service pack, PRIOR >to download of said service pack. After all, what's the point of >downloading a service packs which may or may not break something else, if

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Andrew Jenkins
Here's another for the list of improvements to the core app, ie, next version In Schematic, PCB, and their associated library editors (at least): Allow the user to select and maintain their own default, global workspace characteristics by use of global preferences selections, instead of forcing

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Geoff Harland
Another improvement to add to the list; its nature is such that it would almost certainly have to be provided in a new version, rather than in another SP for the existing version. Permit "free" text strings within schematic components to be right justified or centre justified, as alternatives to

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Neale Brodie
On Mon, 5 Feb 2001 at 20:24:31, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:- >Panning in Schematic by grabbing the display in a blank space with >right-mouse, as in PCB. I agree although I currently use a MS IntelliMouse to do this. Not as smooth but works fine. -- Neale Brodie. RUBI

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread engdev
Here's a few more SCH * The ability to define classes and class properties as well as other rules at the schematic level. * Allowing PCB directives such as track width to be set in a particular unit (metric/imperial) * In schematic library, the ability to define a pin as a "no connect" which wo

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Panning in Schematic by grabbing the display in a blank space with right-mouse, as in PCB. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abdulrahman Lomax P.O. Box 690 El Verano, CA 95433 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the "

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Edi Im Hof
At 16:40 05.02.01 +0100, you wrote: >Edi Im Hof wrote: > > > > At 11:42 05.02.01 +0100, you wrote: > > >The power objects in schematic are not elegant. > > >I'd like to setup a list of objects for my design to choose from: > > >+5V_bar > > >+3.3V_bar > > >+15V_arraow > > >-5.2V_circle > > >GND_d

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Clive . Broome
Here are some of the silly things in Protel which could be (in my opinion) improved. Tab order in the global editing boxes changed from down then across to across then down Renumbering designators in pasted arrays should match between SCH and PCB. SCH increments designators (R1 -> R2) PCB a

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 06:58 PM 5/02/2001 -1000, Cecil Waterhouse said: >One item I would like to see added to PCB is the use of a wild card (and a >range) when placing components etc. >i.e. 'edit' 'move' 'Component' U*. This would allow the user to place all >designated components starting with the lowest value of

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Rene Tschaggelar
Edi Im Hof wrote: > > At 11:42 05.02.01 +0100, you wrote: > >The power objects in schematic are not elegant. > >I'd like to setup a list of objects for my design to choose from: > >+5V_bar > >+3.3V_bar > >+15V_arraow > >-5.2V_circle > >GND_dig > >GND_analog > >Earth > > > > You can change

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Geoff Harland
> I assume this kind of thing has been done before on this forum, but since there > does not seem to be a coherent thread of this kind running I thought I would try to > start one... > > I am sure every user has their own mental list of 'worst' bugs, and 'must have' > improvements for the various

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:15 PM 2/3/01 -0500, Mike Reagan wrote: >6. A NO ERROR directive in PCB to overide a drc error. This directive would essentially be a generic design rule override. It would suppress a specific error message. The override would list the suppressed message, and it would be possible to print

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Edi Im Hof
At 11:42 05.02.01 +0100, you wrote: >The power objects in schematic are not elegant. >I'd like to setup a list of objects for my design to choose from: >+5V_bar >+3.3V_bar >+15V_arraow >-5.2V_circle >GND_dig >GND_analog >Earth > You can change this quite easy. (Customize|Toolbars|Wiring Tools