Re: new upgrade policy

2014-03-01 Thread Jordi Bares
. That is why people are very upset. From: Graham D Clark [mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com] Sent: 01 March 2014 08:28 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Cc: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy Self fulfilling prophecy. Graham D Clark, Head of Stereography

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2014-03-01 Thread Gustavo Eggert Boehs
'); *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy Self fulfilling prophecy. Graham D Clark, Head of Stereography, Deluxe 3D dba Stereo D phone: why-I-stereo http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamclark On Feb 27, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml

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2014-03-01 Thread Gustavo Eggert Boehs
is very large. That is why people are very upset. *From:* Graham D Clark [mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 01 March 2014 08:28 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Cc:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy Self fulfilling prophecy. Graham D

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2014-03-01 Thread Eric Mootz
, and frankly I do not miss anything. - Original Message - From: Jordi Bares To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Cc: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 11:49 AM Subject: Re: new upgrade policy The point is that IF Softimage was abandoned, still has legs

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2014-03-01 Thread Mirko Jankovic
is now three years old, and frankly I do not miss anything. - Original Message - *From:* Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Cc:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Sent:* Saturday, March 01, 2014 11:49 AM *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy The point

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2014-03-01 Thread Eric Mootz
Your support is greatly appreciated, thank you! - Original Message - From: Mirko Jankovic To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 2:08 PM Subject: Re: new upgrade policy And as stated before.. even better, that means another 5 years of budget that you can

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2014-03-01 Thread Sebastien Sterling
@listproc.autodesk.com *Sent:* Saturday, March 01, 2014 2:08 PM *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy And as stated before.. even better, that means another 5 years of budget that you can redirect to such fine fellows and developers as our Mr, Mootz here and others ;) I see a lot of beer coming your way guys

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2014-03-01 Thread Sebastien Sterling
to port emFluid5 to Fabric Engine. - Original Message - *From:* Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Sent:* Saturday, March 01, 2014 2:27 PM *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy Working on anything special at the mo Eric ? if you would

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2014-03-01 Thread Gustavo Eggert Boehs
@listproc.autodesk.com *Sent:* Saturday, March 01, 2014 2:27 PM *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy Working on anything special at the mo Eric ? if you would like to share ?

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2014-03-01 Thread Votch
[mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 01 March 2014 08:28 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Cc:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy Self fulfilling prophecy. Graham D Clark, Head of Stereography, Deluxe 3D dba Stereo D phone: why-I-stereo http://www.linkedin.com

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2014-03-01 Thread Jordi Bares
is very large. That is why people are very upset. From: Graham D Clark [mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com] Sent: 01 March 2014 08:28 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Cc: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy Self fulfilling prophecy. Graham D Clark, Head

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2014-03-01 Thread Eric Lampi
. That is why people are very upset. *From:* Graham D Clark [mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 01 March 2014 08:28 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Cc:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy Self fulfilling prophecy. Graham D Clark, Head of Stereography

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2014-03-01 Thread Jordi Bares
is very large. That is why people are very upset. From: Graham D Clark [mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com] Sent: 01 March 2014 08:28 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Cc: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy Self fulfilling prophecy. Graham D Clark, Head

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2014-03-01 Thread olivier jeannel
...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 01 March 2014 08:28 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Cc:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy Self fulfilling prophecy. Graham D

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2014-03-01 Thread Bk
: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy Self fulfilling prophecy. Graham D Clark, Head of Stereography, Deluxe 3D dba Stereo D phone: why-I-stereo http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamclark On Feb 27, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com wrote

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2014-02-28 Thread Emilio Hernandez
-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim Crowson *Sent:* Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:38 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy It'll be fine for a few years... That's my point exactly, Steve

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2014-02-28 Thread Eugen Sares
Thanks for a good lough...! ; } But until now, no trigger has actually been pulled, so let's be cool until we know anything. -- Originalnachricht -- Von: Greg Punchatz g...@janimation.com An: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Gesendet: 28.02.2014 00:38:26 Betreff: Re: new upgrade policy

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2014-02-28 Thread Sebastien Sterling
. -- Originalnachricht -- Von: Greg Punchatz g...@janimation.com An: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Gesendet: 28.02.2014 00:38:26 Betreff: Re: new upgrade policy Yup 20 years + for us I am sick over this. I feel like someone killed my wife, and is telling me to trade her

Re: Re[2]: new upgrade policy

2014-02-28 Thread Angus Davidson
at 10:34 AM To: Eugen Sares sof...@mail.sprit.orgmailto:sof...@mail.sprit.org, softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: new upgrade policy This is the thing i don't get where

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2014-02-28 Thread Morten Bartholdy
A BIG +1 on this Emilio. That is the only good place to put money atm. Morten Den 27. februar 2014 kl. 19:21 skrev Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com: Well for me and for what I do is alive and kicking and as long as third party devs continue to bring us wonderful things, I now don't have

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2014-02-28 Thread rs3d
- From: Morten Bartholdy To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: Re: new upgrade policy A BIG +1 on this Emilio. That is the only good place to put money atm. Morten Den 27. februar 2014 kl. 19:21 skrev Emilio Hernandez emi...@e

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2014-02-28 Thread Mirko Jankovic
... let's see how it goes... Rui - www.ruisantos3d.com - Original Message - *From:* Morten Bartholdy x...@colorshopvfx.dk *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Sent:* Friday, February 28, 2014 9:28 AM *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy A BIG +1

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2014-02-28 Thread peter_b
exactly – and if they are about to pull the plug, no way you’d quickly invest some more money in it. From: Sam Bowling Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 5:07 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: new upgrade policy To me, the upgrades haven’t been worth the upgrade price lately

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2014-02-28 Thread Ahmidou Lyazidi
*Subject:* RE: new upgrade policy To me, the upgrades haven't been worth the upgrade price lately (still on 2013 for Softimage), what makes them think I would pay full price for the next one? If it comes to dropping that much money on an upgrade I'm going to do some serious looking around

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2014-02-28 Thread Sebastien Sterling
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* RE: new upgrade policy To me, the upgrades haven't been worth the upgrade price lately (still on 2013 for Softimage), what makes them think I would pay full price for the next one? If it comes to dropping that much money on an upgrade I'm going to do

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-28 Thread Angus Davidson
@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Date: Friday 28 February 2014 at 1:30 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy You know I always wondered

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2014-02-28 Thread Sebastien Sterling
Disney had a hand in funding Maya's development, so i guess that is one link On 28 February 2014 14:01, Ed Manning etmth...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:55 PM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.comwrote: I'm on a project which has been under development for nearly 9 years and

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2014-02-28 Thread Ed Manning
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:55 PM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.comwrote: I'm on a project which has been under development for nearly 9 years and is expected to be on the market as an iterated product for several years. We cannot switch so easily. Even if we rewrote our tools and had them

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2014-02-28 Thread Matt Lind
I don't think that is an option as AD isn't going to give up source code which holds many patents. If they did, I would tend to think the asking price would be too steep. But let's pretend AD offers the source code and the price is affordable - is Softimage really worth the price of acquiring

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-28 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Well if at some point it happens that another company is interested in buying Sofitmage from ADSK. I belive they will have a very good handicap to make this adjustments. And I believe we will all be patient with them while they change the old stuff. Some things can be address right away if in

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2014-02-28 Thread David Gallagher
I can't find the webpage, but remember just before Autodesk bought Softimage, Softimage won several tech/software awards from the community. So much promise! Does anyone remember that more specifically? On 2/28/2014 12:49 PM, Emilio Hernandez wrote: Well if at some point it happens that

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2014-02-28 Thread Sebastien Sterling
It's pretty much the software that wove the cinematic experiences of my childhood and I never new: Casper, Joe's apartment, independence day, the Matrix, MIB, Fight Club Jurassic Park, Titanic the Mask etc... It was responsible for several Academy Award Nominations let alone community awards.

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2014-02-28 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Don't forget about Dragon Heart. I read the article on CG magazine quiet a long time ago. They were supposed to end the whole feature in Maya. But then after modeling, they just couldn't move the dragon. So they animated it in Softimage. 2014-02-28 15:20 GMT-06:00 Sebastien Sterling

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2014-02-28 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
Neither Maya nor Softimage|XSI existed at the time On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote: Don't forget about Dragon Heart. I read the article on CG magazine quiet a long time ago. They were supposed to end the whole feature in Maya. But then after

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2014-02-28 Thread Emilio Hernandez
When Dragonheart came out... Funny that came in out in 1996. So maybe I was using some other thing and not Softimage 3D. As for Maya you are right it was Alias|Wavefront 2014-02-28 16:10 GMT-06:00 Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.com: Neither Maya nor Softimage|XSI existed at the time

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2014-02-28 Thread Matt Lind
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy When Dragonheart came out... Funny that came in out in 1996. So maybe I was using some other thing and not Softimage 3D. As for Maya you are right it was Alias|Wavefront [http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8965/erojamailpleca.jpg

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2014-02-28 Thread Emilio Hernandez
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy When Dragonheart came out... Funny that came in out in 1996. So maybe I was using some other thing and not Softimage 3D. As for Maya you are right it was Alias|Wavefront 2014-02-28 16:10 GMT-06:00 Luc-Eric Rousseau

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2014-02-28 Thread Sebastien Sterling
...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Emilio Hernandez *Sent:* Friday, February 28, 2014 3:01 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy When Dragonheart came out... Funny that came in out in 1996. So maybe I

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2014-02-28 Thread Eric Turman
...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Emilio Hernandez *Sent:* Friday, February 28, 2014 3:01 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy When Dragonheart came out... Funny that came in out in 1996. So maybe I was using some

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2014-02-28 Thread Sebastien Sterling
PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy When Dragonheart came out... Funny that came in out in 1996. So maybe I was using some other thing and not Softimage 3D. As for Maya you are right it was Alias|Wavefront 2014-02-28 16:10 GMT-06:00 Luc-Eric

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2014-02-28 Thread Matt Lind
...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sebastien Sterling Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 3:18 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy So is the point that it got shitter when it became SI XSI ? cause it feels pretty

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2014-02-28 Thread Angus Davidson
@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy Self fulfilling prophecy. Graham D Clark, Head of Stereography, Deluxe 3D dba Stereo D phone: why-I-stereo http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamclark On Feb 27, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.commailto:mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com wrote

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2014-02-27 Thread Sebastien Sterling
we go that way for our students depends on a few more things. -- *From:* Daniel Sweeney [dan...@northforge.co.uk] *Sent:* 26 February 2014 11:19 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy I am as quick as I can off

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2014-02-27 Thread Nicolas Esposito
Sweeney [dan...@northforge.co.uk] *Sent:* 26 February 2014 11:19 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy I am as quick as I can off the autodesk rollercoaster. A few things have made my choice I will always love soft and use the tool when its needed

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2014-02-27 Thread Angus Davidson
AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy Quick question regadring the switch to another software: I saw that quite few people are considering Modo or Houdini as an alternative to Softimage. This is due to the fact that you want to completely leave Autodesk for good

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2014-02-27 Thread Jordi Bares
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy I am as quick as I can off the autodesk rollercoaster. A few things have made my choice I will always love soft and use the tool when its needed but I think I need to look for another avenue. Looking at modo? Thoughts

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2014-02-27 Thread Cristobal Infante
. -- *From:* Daniel Sweeney [dan...@northforge.co.uk] *Sent:* 26 February 2014 11:19 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy I am as quick as I can off the autodesk rollercoaster. A few things have made my choice I will always love soft and use the tool when its

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2014-02-27 Thread peter_b
policy? So, where’s that “get XSI source” kickstarter? From: Scott Parrish Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:36 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy Aw yeah, I loved reading this carefully worded email from Autodesk this morning: Dear Autodesk Customer

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2014-02-27 Thread Nick Angus
@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy would you give more money to Autodesk after what they are doing to pretty much *every package* ? Let's recap Image Modeller = dead Stitcher = dead Matchmover = dead Combustion = dead Toxik = dead Naiad = dead until further notice Softimage

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2014-02-27 Thread Jordi Bares
. If Softimage does go EOL it where I am headed for my personal stuff. Whether we go that way for our students depends on a few more things. From: Daniel Sweeney [dan...@northforge.co.uk] Sent: 26 February 2014 11:19 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy

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2014-02-27 Thread Simon Reeves
. -- *From:* Daniel Sweeney [dan...@northforge.co.uk] *Sent:* 26 February 2014 11:19 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy I am as quick as I can off the autodesk rollercoaster. A few things have made my choice I will always love soft and use

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2014-02-27 Thread Greg Punchatz
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy I am as quick as I can off the autodesk rollercoaster. A few things have made my choice I will always love soft and use the tool when its needed but I think I need to look for another avenue. Looking at modo? Thoughts?? Autodesk

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2014-02-27 Thread Jordi Bares
PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy I am as quick as I can off the autodesk rollercoaster. A few things have made my choice I will always love soft and use the tool when its needed but I think I need to look for another avenue. Looking at modo? Thoughts

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2014-02-27 Thread Cristobal Infante
students depends on a few more things. -- *From:* Daniel Sweeney [dan...@northforge.co.uk] *Sent:* 26 February 2014 11:19 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy I am as quick as I can off the autodesk rollercoaster. A few

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2014-02-27 Thread adrian wyer
@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy Career defining conversation if you ask me, everyone needs to look at their options now and figure out a long term plan. I do like the idea of trying something new like Houdini, I am just not sure this is the option companies will choose

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2014-02-27 Thread Guillaume Laforge
...@northforge.co.uk] *Sent:* 26 February 2014 11:19 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy I am as quick as I can off the autodesk rollercoaster. A few things have made my choice I will always love soft and use the tool when its needed but I think I need to look

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2014-02-27 Thread Mirko Jankovic
upgrade policy I am as quick as I can off the autodesk rollercoaster. A few things have made my choice I will always love soft and use the tool when its needed but I think I need to look for another avenue. Looking at modo? Thoughts?? Autodesk bollocks. On Feb 26, 2014 8:52 PM, Kris Rivel

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2014-02-27 Thread Stefan Kubicek
e only been around a few years in Modo. If Softimage does go EOL it where I am headed for my personal stuff. Whether we go that way for our students depends on a few more things. From: Daniel Sweeney [dan...@northforge.co.uk] Sent: 26 February 2014 11:19 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com S

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2014-02-27 Thread Gustavo Eggert Boehs
Well their main target was not VFX itself. They do care about parts of the VFX pipeline since the beggining, but they also market themselves in every other market. 3d printing, product rendering, architectural visualisation... well a bit of what Max does too

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2014-02-27 Thread Simon Reeves
Speaking about freelancers, we maintain a small team here, and so far at the most we have had maybe 2/3 extra 3d freelancers ? (Our overwhelming positions for freelancers here are 2d.) And then it's more likely there're doing something like modelling, while we carry on with more core stuff - so we

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2014-02-27 Thread Jordi Bares
on a few more things. From: Daniel Sweeney [dan...@northforge.co.uk] Sent: 26 February 2014 11:19 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy I am as quick as I can off the autodesk rollercoaster. A few things have made my choice I will always love soft

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2014-02-27 Thread Vincent Fortin
or future upgrades? On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Matt Morris matt...@gmail.com wrote: Inclined to agree. On 27 February 2014 00:10, Scott Parrish scotte...@gmail.com wrote: Again, I know! I just think the new upgrade policy is bullsh*%. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Graham Bell

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2014-02-27 Thread Mirko Jankovic
the same price and with better terms for maintenance or future upgrades? On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Matt Morris matt...@gmail.com wrote: Inclined to agree. On 27 February 2014 00:10, Scott Parrish scotte...@gmail.com wrote: Again, I know! I just think the new upgrade policy is bullsh

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2014-02-27 Thread Sergio Mucino
:19 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy I am as quick as I can off the autodesk rollercoaster. A few things have made my choice I will always love soft

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2014-02-27 Thread Lawrence Nimrichter
...@gmail.com wrote: Again, I know! I just think the new upgrade policy is bullsh*%. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Graham Bell graham.b...@autodesk.com wrote: Well of course it's limited, because the upgrade policy itself is changing next year. From: softimage-boun

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2014-02-27 Thread Andy Nicholas
@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy You can certainly animate in Houdini (I have seen it) but its toolset is not geared towards it and IMHO although I am going to give it a good go (I am right now rigging and processing

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2014-02-27 Thread Eric Thivierge
] On Behalf Of Jordi Bares Sent: 27 February 2014 14:24 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy You can certainly animate in Houdini (I have seen it) but its toolset is not geared towards it and IMHO although

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2014-02-27 Thread olivier jeannel
@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy You can certainly animate in Houdini (I have seen it) but its toolset is not geared towards it and IMHO although I am going to give it a good go (I am right now rigging and processing mocap in houdini) the truth is that I have

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Eric Thivierge
FYI, some of the Fabric guys have been trying to respond on the list about the comments regarding Fabric but their emails aren't getting through. Eric T.

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2014-02-27 Thread Cristobal Infante
aren't getting through? please tell me this is a technical glitch... On 27 February 2014 16:39, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.com wrote: FYI, some of the Fabric guys have been trying to respond on the list about the comments regarding Fabric but their emails aren't getting through. Eric

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2014-02-27 Thread Eric Thivierge
Makes you wonder eh? On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:41:30 AM, Cristobal Infante wrote: aren't getting through? please tell me this is a technical glitch... On 27 February 2014 16:39, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.com mailto:ethivie...@hybride.com wrote: FYI, some of the Fabric

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Greg Punchatz
Wow. *Greg Punchatz* *Sr. Creative Director* Janimation 214.823.7760 www.janimation.com http://www.janimation.com On 2/27/2014 10:39 AM, Eric Thivierge wrote: FYI, some of the Fabric guys have been trying to respond on

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Eric Thivierge
Hey Luc-Eric you're the admin... any reason why their emails aren't coming through? On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:46:35 AM, Greg Punchatz wrote: Wow. *Greg Punchatz* *Sr. Creative Director* Janimation 214.823.7760

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2014-02-27 Thread Sergio Mucino
...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com ] On Behalf Of Jordi Bares Sent: 27 February 2014 14:24 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy You can certainly animate in Houdini

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2014-02-27 Thread Ciaran Moloney
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.comwrote: Kris, Dead for certain? Not yet, it is still rumor and hope to stay that way only. Nonesense! The hive has spoken!

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2014-02-27 Thread Greg Punchatz
sorry dude... Soft is dead.LONG LIVE SOFT!...be it dead or alive!! Sorry for The Who reference to all you who are to young to know what the hell I am talking about. *Greg Punchatz* *Sr. Creative Director* Janimation

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2014-02-27 Thread Eric Lampi
You should never apologize for The Who, those that don't get it should apologize for not getting it. Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/mybudoinc/animation On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Greg Punchatz g...@janimation.com wrote: sorry dude... Soft is dead.LONG LIVE

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2014-02-27 Thread Paul Doyle
On 27 February 2014 12:54, Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com wrote: Fabric Engine looks very promising but I wonder what their business model really is so I am quite cautious... The world is full of great ideas but if they don't make money that is the end of it. No idea what you're getting at

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Paul Doyle
also - our pricing is on our website: http://fabricengine.com/get-fabric/ On 27 February 2014 12:58, Paul Doyle technove...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 February 2014 12:54, Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com wrote: Fabric Engine looks very promising but I wonder what their business model really

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Kris Rivel
Oh its real...its dead...going to be soon...I assure you. Wish we could just take the entire thing and privately take over. But no...all its secrets, power and coolness is locked tight in a damn Autodesk vault. Very sad. Kris

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2014-02-27 Thread Jordi Bares
I have the feeling I won't have the resources to build these kind of tools, looks to me like you do tools for RD which is great but we don't do RD, in fact, very few people do. Therefore I am looking at Fabric Engine with a lot of interest but I don't picture it yet.. may be I simply don't get

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Well for me and for what I do is alive and kicking and as long as third party devs continue to bring us wonderful things, I now don't have to think about stupid subscritpions or ADSK client oriented policies. Now all my money is destinated to third party devs that will continue to support

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Paul Doyle
Hi Jordi - I'd suggest joining our mailing list if you want to get into things in more detail, I don't want to abuse my presence here - https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/creationplatform All I'll say is that the 2.0 release will make it a lot easier for TDs to get going with Fabric, and

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Paul Doyle
...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Jordi Bares *Sent:* 27 February 2014 18:17 *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy I have the feeling I won't have the resources to build these kind of tools, looks to me like you do tools for RD which is great but we

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Jordi Bares
Will do, sorry if I sounded negative, hopefully only ignorant. :-) Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com On 27 Feb 2014, at 18:25, Paul Doyle technove...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jordi - I'd suggest joining our mailing list if you want to get into things in more detail, I don't want to abuse my

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Sergio Mucino
I guess the part you won't like is when 3rd parties stop supporting Soft. After all, 3rd party developers are there to make money. It makes little sense to invest dev resources in something that has no future (unless the effort involved is quite trivial). I'm not saying Soft is dead... I'm

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Paul Doyle
lol not at all - I appreciate the candour On 27 February 2014 13:35, Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com wrote: Will do, sorry if I sounded negative, hopefully only ignorant. :-) Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com On 27 Feb 2014, at 18:25, Paul Doyle technove...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jordi

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Bradley Gabe
Remember when Fox canceled Futurama? Family Guy?

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread olivier jeannel
Remember Mirai ? http://www.izware.com/mirai/ At least they have their own website... Le 27/02/2014 19:38, Bradley Gabe a écrit : Remember when Fox canceled Futurama? Family Guy?

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Paul Griswold
It seems to me if Splice is out devs like Eric Mootz are starting to build things, there is the potential to transition from ADSK applications gradually rather than cold turkey. It would be very cool to see all the fantastic people who have been contributing to Softimage over the years turn

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Steven Caron
i don't know who it was, but whoever trimmed either email... thank you! On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Bradley Gabe witha...@gmail.com wrote: Remember when Fox canceled Futurama? Family Guy?

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Tim Crowson
It was ironic the Japanese word for 'future' -Tim On 2/27/2014 12:47 PM, olivier jeannel wrote: Remember Mirai ? http://www.izware.com/mirai/ At least they have their own website... Le 27/02/2014 19:38, Bradley Gabe a écrit : Remember when Fox canceled Futurama? Family Guy? --

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Kris Rivel
Ha...I think it was me...drove me nuts :-) Kris On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Steven Caron car...@gmail.com wrote: i don't know who it was, but whoever trimmed either email... thank you! On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Bradley Gabe witha...@gmail.com wrote: Remember when Fox

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Simon van de Lagemaat
i don't know who it was, but whoever trimmed either email... thank you! On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Tony Naqvi i...@tonynaqvi.co.uk wrote: Anyone remember thins ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRd5uaM18Qg

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Adam Sale
I reupped on my subscription last month. Acting on the premise that 2015 will be the last version of softimage, I hope autodesk will throw us sub customers a bone and allow us to transfer our subcriptions over to maya without having to purchase the entire package. That would be the honorable

RE: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Matt Lind
-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Adam Sale Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:59 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy I reupped on my subscription last month. Acting on the premise that 2015

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Jordi Bares
True, we should not loose focus but the conversation spiralled out of the new Upgrade policy and how AD upcoming 2015 version will signal what is going on. On the contrary to what may be understood by some comments I made I love Softimage but it will be a turning point for me to see what

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Rob Chapman
February 2014 21:51, Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com wrote: True, we should not loose focus but the conversation spiralled out of the new Upgrade policy and how AD upcoming 2015 version will signal what is going on. On the contrary to what may be understood by some comments I made I love Softimage

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Cristobal Infante
but the conversation spiralled out of the new Upgrade policy and how AD upcoming 2015 version will signal what is going on. On the contrary to what may be understood by some comments I made I love Softimage but it will be a turning point for me to see what Autodesk have been doing and what the new

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread peter_b
you bring the gasoline, I’ll get the matches? From: Rob Chapman Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:25 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy the greedy shysters cannot get away with it. whose bright idea was this anyways? some heads are going to roll, surely

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