Ok, look at the fire in Monroe County Michigan in December at the Toledo Beach
MarinaThat's closer to this application. They WERE able to save most of the
foundation.
John Paulsen – SET
Sprinkler System Design & Sales
Silco Fire and Security
2345 Southwest Blvd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P
and Michigan show
how devastating a fire can be in situations with multiple boats and RV's stored
under the same roof.
EH II at a minimum gives the best chance of saving at least part of the
building and a high K factor CMHD or ESFR head would not be out of the
question.
MHO,
John Paulsen – SET
a quick test calc in
AutoSprink and it treated the tee with a bushing as a standard line tee.
Just my 2 cents,
John Paulsen – SET
Sprinkler System Design & Sales
Silco Fire and Security
2345 Southwest Blvd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P-614-449-2101 Ext. 3367
F-614-449-2007
C-614-348-8206
Mike:
Good info, thanks!
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at the owner they could
think of, including the DPV removal demand. I think the standard response for
the fire department, once they are sure there is no active fire, is to shut the
control valve(s) and maybe open the main drain. That would not change from dry
to wet…..
Thanks,
John Paulsen – SET
Thanks guys!
You’ve answered my question, there is no specific code reference prohibiting
it. It will fall back to the local AHJ and local ordinances if it is allowed or
not.
Thanks,
John Paulsen – SET
Sprinkler System Design & Sales
Silco Fire and Security
2345 Southwest Blvd.
Grove City
Yes, you could do that, but you would have to dismount the DPV. We are trying
to determine if removing the clapper and installing a flow switch is a
“prohibited” procedure.
John Paulsen – SET
Sprinkler System Design & Sales
Silco Fire and Security
2345 Southwest Blvd.
Grove City, OH 43123
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From: John Paulsen
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 10:06 AM
To: Sprinklerforum
Subject: Dry Pipe Valve to Wet
Good Day Everyone!
A question has come up regarding the practice of taking the clapper out of a
dry pipe valve in order to convert the system from dry pipe to wet pipe. We
have
out of his
pocket and stick to the machine. Very bad!
John Paulsen - SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P - 614-782-2438
F - 614-782-2374
C - 614-348-8206
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valves)
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Art:
All of the ones we have designed were OH II. That includes U-Haul and Public
Storage.
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6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P - 614-782-2438
F - 614-782-2374
C - 614-348-8206
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8.15.14.1 (2013)
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6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
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Is this a JCAH (Joint Commission) requirement?
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Then I would put a head guard on before the paper bag.
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overspray, with AHJ approval of course.
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eeds 32 ft per second velocity and
it takes more pressure to exceed that.
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6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P - 614-782-2438
F - 614-782-2374
C - 614-348-8206
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worked out with the building department. I don't know where the
breakdown occurred, but I am trying to pick up the pieces for my client.
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Crown FSD
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py land, the manufacturer is reluctant to write
this letter and I don't know any FPE's that I can ask to write such a letter or
if they would laugh me off the phone if I did.
Has anyone else dealt with this type of issue and if so, HOW!?
Thanks,
John Paulsen - SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Gro
Mike:
Check Victaulic's web site. I think the V3612, K-8.0 might work for you. But
the applications get pretty specific so you need to verify.
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Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P - 614-782-2438
F - 614-782-2374
C - 614-348-8206
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uot;
Best of Luck!
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Grove City, OH 43123
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Sent:
Mike:
Then I would say that the AHJ is well within his rights and can demand that the
insulation be removed if it is installed before the rough inspection takes
place.
John Paulsen - SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P - 614-782-2438
F - 614-782-2374
C - 614-348
Mike:
I would say that the AHJ wants to visually confirm that the top fastener on the
bar joist is in compliance with code before the insulation covers them up. It
is no different than not allowing pads to be dropped before visual inspection
of the piping above. (Thank you Dennis Fry)
John
the picture of the cover off the tamper switch either. It makes it
look like the control valve was closed pre-fire.
Prayers to the family of the deceased. We all work every day to try and make
sure this type of failure doesn't happen!
Very disturbing.
John Paulsen – SET
Crown Fire System Design
Reed:
6.2.1.3 13R, 2016
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ould if it were ESFR?
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James:
He doesn't think NFPA-13, Chapter 18 applies? I understand his confusion, the
commodities definitions do reference synthetic rubber as a Group A Plastic, but
it doesn't specifically reference tires in the definitions
John Paulsen - SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove
Doug:
We use a Pacific Hydrostar (Item #65836) 25 GPM/60 PSI Transfer Pump. It has an
800 Watt motor that we still have yet to wear out. I think we bought it at
Harbor Freight for $125. It will pump to a 4th story attic with no issues
Hope that helps.
Merry Christmas!
John Paulsen - SET
the building or
under ground to the new addition. I would try to arrange the piping so that it
can be supplied by a single FCD. That would probably help overcome the local FD
objections if they have any about this supply arrangement.
Happy Holidays,
John Paulsen – SET
Crown Fire System Design
and keep the deflector above 12" from the highest point of
the ceiling and in conformance with Table 8.6.5.1.2 distances from the
obstruction, well then you might have a shot at the 15' head spacing along the
line.
John Paulsen – SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH
I’m in for the acceptance test!
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Crown Fire System Design
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Grove City, OH 43123
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Can’t agree more! The forum alone makes it a value. The rest of the stuff is
just icing on the cake.
John Paulsen – SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P – 614-782-2438
F – 614-782-2374
C – 614-348-8206
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Don’t know if that was a shot at me or not, but my AFSA membership status is
active for both national and state #30458.
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Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P – 614-782-2438
F – 614-782-2374
C – 614-348-8206
From: Sprinklerforum
for rack sprinklers, they were
undesirable for the reasons you mentioned.
Proper pipe pitch and gap seal gaskets rated for cold temps.
Thanks,
John Paulsen – SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P – 614-782-2438
F – 614-782-2374
C – 614-348-8206
30,000 sq ft each and YES stainless is that expensive! 3” lines, 6” Cross mains
and 8” Bulk feed…$
Thanks,
John Paulsen – SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P – 614-782-2438
F – 614-782-2374
C – 614-348-8206
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Of John Paulsen
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2017 12:34 PM
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Subject: Schedule 10 vs Schedule 40 pipe
Hello Forumites:
We are working to develop a bid package for a pair of large freezers and
cooler
participants, is the cost of schedule 40
warranted or would schedule 10 service just as well in this application?
Thanks in advance for your responses.
John Paulsen - SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P - 614-782-2438
F - 614-782-2374
C - 614-348-8206
½ valve closest
to the remote area. If this is not your question, feel free to PM me.
Thanks,
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6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
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Cesar:
If a pump is rated at 1,000 GPM at 75 PSI, the 3rd point on the pump curve
is 150% of the rated GPM at 65% of the rated PSI. Therefore the Tank is
sized for the 150% GPM demand for however many minutes. (For 60 minutes it
would be 1,500 GPM X 60 or 90,000 gallons)
John Paulsen - SET
I agree with Matt's post. If you can't modify the wood ceiling to comply
with the 70% rule the coverage and shields are required.
John Paulsen - SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
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C - 614-348-8206
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Subject: Re: Calculation requirement when adding sprinklers
I would want to do a proof calc to satisfy myself and then if someone ask for
it you already have it.
I usually do many proof calcs but only submit some of them.
Jeff
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 11:04
No, these heads are being added close to the riser. Nowhere near the remote
area.
John P.
Crown FSD
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, so now I prevail myself upon the forum-ites to steer me in the
right direction.
Are additional calculations required?
John Paulsen - SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
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F - 614-782-2374
C - 614-348-8206
I have seen cases where, either because of past history, remoteness from the
nearest fire station or poor water supply, the local AHJ has required
sprinklers in specific neighborhoods or a building complex. Is this in Ft Worth?
Thanks,
John Paulsen – SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282
building because they caused too much water damage to the melamine bags. Of
course we declined and informed the local AHJ so he could keep his eye on him.
My point is, just because the owner wants it, it doesn’t make it right.
John Paulsen – SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd
Well, one thing is for sure, your customer would be on AEP’s (American Electric
Power) Christmas card list the first time they powered the trace system up!
Hundreds of feet of resistance heating cable…what a “peak” demand that would
set.
John Paulsen – SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282
contrary to the provisions of NFPA-13? A review of NFPA-13 only
specifically deals with sprinkler spacing over low partitions in light hazard
occupancies, not OH II, so I have no code guidance.
Comments would be greatly appreciated.
John Paulsen – SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd
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On Apr 8, 2017 11:22 AM, John Paulsen <j...@crwnfire.com> wrote:
Ok, before this goes off on a tangent, there are a couple of ways that I can
proceed with the design. But My point is, what was originally designed is
the best layout based upon the current code. B
, 2017 11:07 AM, John Paulsen <j...@crwnfire.com> wrote:
John:
Challenge accepted. I was in my office at 4AM this morning because this
project was keeping me awake. Please look at the drawing in the attached
link. Pay special note to the 4 bottom lines. I have "altered" the two lin
Oh, and I would expect the same response from him too!
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Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2017 11:13 AM
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Subject: RE: Sprinklers over low partitions
said Roland obviously didn't understand the
code.
On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 6:33 AM, John Paulsen <j...@crwnfire.com
<mailto:j...@crwnfire.com> > wrote:
Lol, I can easily see myself assuming the PIA role on this one! But I have to
respect my clients desire not to poison t
egard.
Steve
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Subject: RE: Sprinklers o
d interest. As a third-party designer, my
interest in a particular issue is for the good of the order. The cost
difference isn't coming out of my pocket, so that makes me a somewhat
less-biased advocate in that regard.
Steve
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argument.
Steve
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Date: 4/8/17 5:14 AM (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: Re: Sprinklers over low partitions
John,
13, 8.5.5.1 and A.8.5.5.1 may support his position.
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Thanks John,
Normally that would b
in the center of a space than there is along
one of these low partitions.
Good luck!
John W. Farabee
VP Fire Sprinkler Division
Atlantic Realty and Building, LLC
Jupiter, Fl
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Florida License No.
FPC16-000106
On Saturday, April 8, 2017 5:14 AM, John Paulsen &l
ions of NFPA-13? A review of NFPA-13
only specifically deals with sprinkler spacing over low partitions in light
hazard occupancies, not OH II, so I have no code guidance.
Comments would be greatly appreciated.
John Paulsen - SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P
Jay:
No, your designer made a little mistake there me thinks. The
calculations/densities must conform to the listing of the sprinkler. I would
have your designer take another look at the calculations.
John Paulsen - SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P
where the yard main
enters the building so that the water in the overhead portion would perform in
what our fire alarm system brethren would call a “supervisory capacity” and to
dampen any potential water hammer issues.
Thanks to all,
John Paulsen
Crown Fire System Design
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Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 4
t get slammed around when the heros hit that Storz with their pump.
Brad
.
On Feb 14, 2017 3:14 PM, "John Paulsen" <j...@crwnfire.com
<mailto:j...@crwnfire.com> > wrote:
Brad:
No, Evelyn did right by ya, but that section is what is causing my conflict.
The largest r
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Subject: Re: Yard FDC Supply Line
John,
Look at 13 (2013) A.8.17.2.3
That should do it, right?
Or is the Evelyn Wood adult ed speed reading course I took years ago messing me
up here?
Brad
On Feb 14, 2017 2:32 PM, "
: Yard FDC Supply Line
John,
Look at 13 (2013) A.8.17.2.3
That should do it, right?
Or is the Evelyn Wood adult ed speed reading course I took years ago messing me
up here?
Brad
On Feb 14, 2017 2:32 PM, "John Paulsen" <j...@crwnfire.com
<mailto:j...@crwnfire.com> >
1.)Increase the interior 4" to 6" as the engineer wants.
OR
2.)Have a sign installed on the FDC asking for 175 PSI inlet pressure
(After getting AHJ blessing of course) and hope the engineer will accept it.
Now I ask for other opinions from my learned colleagues.
Tha
seeps" into any of the
floor zones and sits there? Not sure about that.
If the portable unit is not enough for a standby supply, a dedicated FDC to
the Helipad would be the better answer.
John Paulsen - SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P - 614-782-2438
The ones I’ve done have all been OH Grp II, .2 / 1500. The criteria was
specified by the project’s mechanical specifying engineer. I’m not convinced
the density is high enough though.
John Paulsen – SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P – 614-782-2438
F
I'm dating myself)
Thanks,
John Paulsen - SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P - 614-782-2438
F - 614-782-2374
C - 614-348-8206
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On Behalf Of Rocci Cetani 3
Sent: Monday,
for “Light Hazard only”.
That’s the frustrating part, common sense says the same or similar spacing
would apply, but Ordinary Hazard is not included.
Thanks,
John Paulsen – SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
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C – 614-348
BTW -that question was from:
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I am trying to determine the proper deflector distance from a partition with
the top located 18" below the sprinkler deflector. This is an Ord Haz Grp II
Self Storage facility with standard spray QR Tyco TY-FRB TY3131 uprights.
Sec 8.6.5.2 doesn't give a table like 8.6.5.2.2 which is for Light
Thanks Craig. Bottom line, it looks like rack sprinklers are required
And there are times I miss the drawing board too
Lol
John Paulsen SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P 614-782-2438
F 614-782-2374
C 614-348-8206
From
with ceiling
sprinklers designed for a minimum .45 gpm/ft2 density over 2,000 sq ft and
one level of in rack
Sprinklers required at alternate transverse flues as shown in figure
17.2.1.4 (d).
I think I miss NFPA-231C too much
Thanks,
John Paulsen SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds
orage need to be lowered to 10"
and am I right that a single row of in-rack sprinklers are required?
Thanks,
John Paulsen - SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P - 614-782-2438
F - 614-782-2374
C
You could take a pdf file to your local blue print shop and have them plot it
to see. I’m sure they would be GLAD to upgrade your plotter. We use a Cannon
iPF-870.
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Sent: Tuesday,
Ditto. We plot to a PDF using Foxit PDF Reader at 300 dpi and have no issues
with drawing quality. They are 2 MG files though..
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6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P - 614-782-2438
F - 614-782-2374
C - 614-348-8206
From
in this case wants to do the right thing, he was just
given some bad advice early on and is scrambling now to get “above the curve”
on the project.
Again, thanks to all!
John Paulsen – SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P – 614-782-2438
F – 614-782-2374
C – 614
the code review?
If the owner uses 200 pounds of propellant per day for a five day week, and if
the code review limits are met, the owner is going to need two shipments per
week. I'm sure the owner will feel this is burdensome. Guess what!
On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 1:50 PM, John Paulsen &l
.
Thanks,
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Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P – 614-782-2438
F – 614-782-2374
C – 614-348-8206
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On
Behalf Of Charles Bamford
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 4:15
that would be Use Group F-1.
So I have laid this thing out to EH Grp II(.4 / 2500)
Does anybody out there have any past experience with something along these
lines that can tell me if I'm off base or not?
Thanks,
John Paulsen - SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City
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Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 4:22 PM
To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
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Subject: RE: Wet Pipe Above Breezeway
Brian:
That is wrong on SOOO many levels. It looks to me like the
Brian:
That is wrong on SOOO many levels. It looks to me like there was blown in
insulation at one time over the pipe, which is still wrong because it's over
an exterior soffit and can't collect heat from the space below. How many
sprinklers does that pipe feed?
John P
Crown Fire System
, we are forced to decide
between the lesser of evils.
John Paulsen - SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P - 614-782-2438
F - 614-782-2374
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From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org]
On Behalf
reassuring to have you all look at the
issue with "new eyes".
Thanks again
John Paulsen
Crown FSD
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On Behalf Of craig.pr...@ch2m.com
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 2:42 PM
To: spri
, I don't think you
should be using the Miscellaneous Storage design criteria from Chapter 13.
Shouldn't you be looking at Chapter 15?
Larry Keeping
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On Behalf Of John Paulsen
Sent: December-08-16 1:52 PM
5' <10' = EH2 (.4 over 2,500)
The existing overhead system will provide .6/2,500 with a 40% safety margin.
Thoughts - Arguments?
Thanks,
John Paulsen - SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P - 614-782-2438
F - 614-782-2374
C - 614-348-8
hing that I can tell,
if it meet the OHII curve, that should be the governing requirement.
Thanks,
John Paulsen - SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P - 614-782-2438
F - 614-782-2374
C - 614-348-8206
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ir higher flash point. (which is information I can't seem to
find right now)
Is there a fire test out there that indicates these bin boxes represent an
increased hazard?
John Paulsen - SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P - 614-782-2438
F - 614-782-2374
C
to condemn the building and padlock it.
I still believe sprinklers would have prevented the tragedy, but I now doubt
VERY much that the system would have been kept in proper working order.
Again…WOW!
John Paulsen – SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P – 614
which
caused enough of a spray to douse the fire. So even if it’s not the ideal
system, if it’s in proper working order, anything is better than nothing.
John Paulsen SET
Crown Fire System Design
Grove City, OH
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prevention solution. When will we learn America…?!
John Paulsen
Crown Fire System Design
Grove City, OH
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Behalf Of Steve Leyton
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 1:45 PM
To: sprinklerforum
10/17/2016 7:50 AM, John Paulsen wrote:
Does anyone have a 2010 edition of NFPA-13R that can verify for me that
there is no requirement to have sprinklers in a closet less than 24 sq. ft.
even if there is a wall over 3' long on one side? I know it's in NFPA-13,
But the later versions of 13R I have d
'
wall and I don't have a 13R that old to refer to. The local jurisdiction
has only adopted up to 2010.
Thanks,
John Paulsen - SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P - 614-782-2438
F - 614-782-2374
C - 614-348-8206
e it spurs some discussion.
John Paulsen - SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P - 614-782-2438
F - 614-782-2374
C - 614-348-8206
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On Behalf Of John Irwin
Sent:
to prevent improper activation.
Corrections is a tough market because the “tenants” have nothing to do all day
but look for weaknesses in the infrastructure.
My 2 cents worth.
John Paulsen – SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P – 614-782-2438
F
I wasn't the designer or consultant on the project, but I know the free
lance designer who was. I'm confident he calculated it correctly. Now
whether or not the fitters put the tees where he indicated..?
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On Behalf Of
Craig:
I sure hope not because I know of a couple of contractors that were shipping
lengths of pipe to new school job sites and having their fitters cut the
mechanical tees for the drops on site with pilot clamps.
John Paulsen - SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH
Thank you for THAT mental picture!
Thank heavens they later allowed us to encase the fitters in bubble wrap while
they operated the machines.
John Paulsen
Crown Fire System Design
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Behalf Of Forest
acity of the piping
being drained.
John Paulsen - SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P - 614-782-2438
F - 614-782-2374
C - 614-348-8206
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On Behalf Of Todd Williams
Sent: Monday,
Mike & Jeff:
Phewww! Thank goodness I wasn't the only one thinking that! (Mostly because
it's been my finger prints on the tile!)
John Paulsen - SET
Crown Fire System Design
6282 Seeds Rd.
Grove City, OH 43123
P - 614-782-2438
F - 614-782-2374
C - 614-348-8206
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