Re: getting emails from one pc to another

[Mark Hansen]

On 4/18/2011 5:24 PM, Daniel wrote:
> Jim wrote:
>> Daniel wrote:
>>> Jim wrote:
 I know this has been asked before, but how do I get emails from one PC
 with SM to a new PC with SM? I don't see any export function for email
 messages. The PCs are not connected to each other. (I just got a new PC
 yesterday -- the messages are on the old PC -- this is the last SM
 related item I need to move over).

 TIA
 Jim
>>>
>>> Jim, select "Server Settings" for you email account on
>>> Edit->Mail&Newsgroup Account Setting screen for your email account and
>>> have a look at the "Local Directory" location. This is where your email
>>> account is located and your received emails are contained in the "Inbox"
>>> folder and your outgoing emails are in the "sent" folders.
>>>
>>> Rename these folders to "oldinbox" and "oldsent" or whatever you want,
>>> copy them to a flash drive and then copy them into the profile on your
>>> new PC, similar location to where they came from.
>>>
>>> Job Done.
>>>
>>> Remember if you done change the names of the "inbox" and "sent", when
>>> you copy them onto the new computer, they will overwrite the "inbox" and
>>> "sent" folders already on the new computer.
>>>
>>> Daniel
>> Thanks Daniel
> 
> Received this via email
> 
> Quote
> Hi!
> 
> Will this remedy also work when trying to move emails from one earlier 
> version of SM to the current one on the SAME computer?
> 
> I've been using SM v1.18 because of its stability and tried once before 
> to move emails from one hard drive to another with SM 2.xx
> and I was only able to move one of four email accounts.
> 
> Thanks for your pending response.
> 
> regards
> 
> Cliff Brodie
> San Leandro, CA
> 
> End Quote
> 
> Cliff, if memory serves me right (and trust me, that's not a given) the 
> Inbox and sent files are, basically, text files, with the emails one 
> after another, so Cliff, I'm guessing providing you call each inbox and 
> sent file something different, you can move them into the one 
> profilebut, maybe someone will be along who can tell you how to do 
> it properly, as I think it is still possible to have multiple profiles 
> in SM.
> 
> Daniel

Keep in mind too that there may be other things that need to be moved
from one profile to the other, like other mailboxes (other than Inbox,
etc.), contacts, bookmarks, etc.

I believe there are articles on the Mozillazine site that talk about
migrating profiles.
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Re: autoloading of SM 1.1.18

[Mark Hansen]

On 4/2/2011 7:14 PM, Norvin wrote:
>> 
> Bill, this file does not show up in MSCONFIG, althou the file 
> SKDAEMON.EXE does and this is what creates the sksmaild file which 
> causes me the problem. I have a keyboard with the "rapid access keys" 
> across the top and I need the DAEMON file to run this feature. And yes I 
> do need this feature for some operator needs.

Then talk to the vendor of that software and find out why it is launching
the browser without your requesting it.

Why do you think this is a SeaMonkey issue?
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Re: start in mail not browaer... how???

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/1/2011 8:03 PM, Kevin W Mc Auley wrote:
> read subj

You can create a desktop shortcut to launch SeaMonkey and pass it a
command-line argument of -mail, i.e.:

  c:\Program Files\Seamonkey\seamonkey.exe -mail

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Re: Double Click Oddity

[Mark Hansen]

On 1/22/2011 6:08 PM, JJG wrote:
> Mark Hansen wrote:
>> On 1/22/2011 2:27 AM, Daniel wrote:
>>> JJG wrote:
>>>> If I just click on a newsgroup subscription, it opens to show the
>>>> messages in it. However, if I inadvertently double click it, U get an
>>>> entirely new window of Seamonkey. Is that normal?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> As I understand it, yes, this is normal (at least for me). I'm guessing
>>> by double clicking, you are, in effect, indicating that you want to
>>> reply to the message (that you hadn't read yet!!).
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>
>> The OP is talking about double-clicking on the news group. When you
>> double-click on the news group, it does the first action in its context
>> menu: Open in new Mail window.
>>
>> There are times when my mouse (I assume it is my mouse) click results
>> in an inadvertent double-click and I get a new Mail/News window. 
>> Unfortunately,
>> it is the same size and in the same location as the previous one, so it's
>> not obvious that this has happened until I notice all the application icon/
>> buttons on the Windows task bar.
>>
> Thank you Mark.
> 
> Except that 'Open in a New Window' is the second option  The first is 
> 'Get Messages.'
> 
> 

Not for me, but I'm still on 1.1.19.
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Re: Double Click Oddity

[Mark Hansen]

On 1/22/2011 2:27 AM, Daniel wrote:
> JJG wrote:
>> If I just click on a newsgroup subscription, it opens to show the
>> messages in it. However, if I inadvertently double click it, U get an
>> entirely new window of Seamonkey. Is that normal?
>>
>> Thank you.
> 
> As I understand it, yes, this is normal (at least for me). I'm guessing 
> by double clicking, you are, in effect, indicating that you want to 
> reply to the message (that you hadn't read yet!!).
> 
> Daniel

The OP is talking about double-clicking on the news group. When you
double-click on the news group, it does the first action in its context
menu: Open in new Mail window.

There are times when my mouse (I assume it is my mouse) click results
in an inadvertent double-click and I get a new Mail/News window. Unfortunately,
it is the same size and in the same location as the previous one, so it's
not obvious that this has happened until I notice all the application icon/
buttons on the Windows task bar.

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Re: Opening to Email

[Mark Hansen]

On 1/19/2011 12:33 PM, JJG wrote:
> Is there a way to have Seamonkey 2.0.11 open directly to Email rather 
> than having to open it  via the little envelope at the bottom of the window?
> 
> Thank you.

Assuming your running some flavor of Windows, copy the desktop shortcut
used to launch the browser and name it something like Seamonkey Mail. Then
change the properties for the shortcut and add -mail to the end of the
command line, as in:

C:\Program Files\Seamonkey\seamonkey.exe -mail

When you launch from this shortcut, it will open with the e-mail client.
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Re: where is bookmarks.html?

[Mark Hansen]

On 1/10/2011 4:40 PM, Walter wrote:
> 
> Ray_Net wrote:
>> Robert Kaiser wrote:
>>> Rufus schrieb:
 I can only assume that all of the same information that was contained in
 the flat file and all of the functionality currently in Manage Bookmarks
 will be retained...and this is just a change in file structure/format
 and not top level functionality...
>>>
>>> For most things, that's right. The only feature I know that we lost in
>>> the transition are groupmarks, which have been replaced by the
>>> possibility to open any folder of bookmarks in tabs. Everything else
>>> should (as far as I know) be preserved, but 2.1 also adds the
>>> possibility to use tags on bookmarks, use "livemarks", saved bookmarks
>>> searches, and a few other things (which are easier to do with the
>>> database model).
>>>
>>
>> Hi !
>> Could you tell me what a groupmark is ?
>> I see only "bookmark", "folder" and "separator" when managing bookmarks.
>>
> 
> 
> I remember word marks and group marks on the old IBM 1401 and 1410. A 
> gumwum (groupmark+wordmark) would stop any data file record transfer. 
> Back in the 1960s.
> w.

Do you believe that is what is being referred to here?
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Re: where is bookmarks.html?

[Mark Hansen]

On 1/10/2011 9:16 AM, Larry wrote:
> JP. Baker wrote:
>> I haven't had time to check but doesn't the config option
>> browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML work in 2.1b - if so this
>> should create an updated bookmarks.html on shutdown.
>>
> This is a bit confusing. In 2.0.11 I can choose whether or not to 
> bookmark a page ("Bookmark This Page"), and when I do so (I thought) 
> that choice is preserved upon exiting the bookmark file. Does this 
> option mean that I have to, or don't have to, choose to bookmark a page? 
> When is my choice preserved, or is it if I don't select this option?
> 
> 

The way bookmarks are stored changed between pre-2.1 and 2.1.
In 2.1, bookmarks are stored in a database rather than in an html file.
The property mentioned above causes SM 2.1 to export the bookmarks (now
in a database) to an external html file upon exiting SM.

You still "bookmark this page" just as you always have.
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Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.18 to 2.0.11

[Mark Hansen]

On 12/31/2010 2:38 PM, John wrote:
> Good Afternoon,
> 
> I have looked through the Archives to 3/26/2010 and I think that I know 
> that these two versions store in different places and are totally 
> separate.  I Used SM 1.1.18 up until 1.1.19 then I switched to FF and TB 
> but, my wife has mega emails that she can not loose and is still using 
> SM 1.1.18.  I would like to update her system to the most current 
> version of SM but, I need to be absolutely sure that it will not damage
> her current version so that she can still access all the old messages.
> 
> So if anyone can confirm that the above assumptions are correct I'll up 
> date her system.
> 
> Thanks,
> John
> 

John,

All the e-mail (and all the settings, etc.) is stored in the "profile".
Is it correct that SM 1.X stores the profile (by default) in a location
that is different from the default location used by SM 2.X

When you install SM 2.X, it will automatically migrate your SM 1.x profile.
This means it will take all your settings, e-mail, etc. from the SM 1.X
profile and copy it to your new SM 2.X profile.

Note that this process will not modify your SM 1.X profile. If necessary,
you can still run SM 1.X and access the original profile.

Without taking some precautions, you cannot run both SM 2.X alongside
SM 1.X, so you should plan to install 2.X, migrate the profile across,
then never run SM 1.X again.

I've seen many reports of people having problems with the migration, so
after doing it, you should run SM 2.X and make sure everything is there:
e-mail, address book, passwords, bookmarks, etc. If anything is missing,
you can come back here for help.

Note that I've also seen many reports here from people who've said the
migration went without any problems at all, so good luck.
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Re: DNS Server

[Mark Hansen]

On 12/8/2010 2:25 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
> When I select a link to a Web site in SeaMonkey, is there some way to
> determine the domain name or IP address of what DNS server was used?
> 

Does your operating system (you didn't mention...) include a tool
called nslookup? Try running:

  nslookup www.yourtargethost.com

It will return the server name/address of the DNS server as well
as the name/ip of the target host, if found.

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Re: Brevity Comic Strip on SeaMonkeys

[Mark Hansen]

On 11/7/2010 10:55 AM, Ant wrote:
> On 11/7/2010 9:41 AM PT, JeffM typed:
> 
>>> http://comics.com/brevity/2010-11-07/
>>>
>> 8-)  Shades of my youth and the back pages of comic books.
>> Without the bloated page, that's:
>> http://c0389161.cdn.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/dyn/str_strip/342251.full.gif
> 
> That links makes you download. :(

It asked me what I want to open it with, I said SeaMonkey and it worked
just fine.
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Re: email certificates

[Mark Hansen]

On 10/25/2010 12:46 PM, James wrote:
> You make it seem as if you never sent or received an encrypted email 
> using your method. If you had, you would know what each participant is 
> required to have. Still, when I have time, I will continue to research 
> Enigmail. So far it seems it will only work with Mozilla email client 
> programs.

Actually, I sent encrypted/signed message to and received from many
people. However, I don't know what they were using.
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Re: email certificates

[Mark Hansen]

On 10/24/2010 1:43 PM, James wrote:
> Mark Hansen wrote:
>> On 10/23/2010 6:24 PM, James wrote:
>>
>>> I have been using email certificates for years. The only time I had
>>> email certificate problems is when I started using SeaMonkey.
>>>  
>> Have you considered using Enigmail? To be honest, I didn't even know
>> SeaMonkey had a built-in way to send/receive encrypted e-mail messages.
>>
>> Enigmail provides this and has been working for me for years.
>>
> I have been looking at the documentation and found no reference to how 
> the other user would be able to use anything I sent to them encrypted. 
> Does each party need the same program? If so, then this application will 
> be severely limited as most of my correspondents that use certificate 
> encryption use Outlook, Outlook Express, or some other email client 
> program. My problem is with the Thunderbird user.
> 
> I will continue to look into this and I thank you for your suggestion.

>From what I understand, the encrypted e-mail message is done in an
industry-standard way, so anyone (with the correct public pgp key)
should be able to read it.

However, I don't know for sure. You might want to check with the author's
site. I'm sure he has an FAQ or is willing to answer questions, etc.

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Re: email certificates

[Mark Hansen]

On 10/23/2010 6:24 PM, James wrote:
> I have been using email certificates for years. The only time I had 
> email certificate problems is when I started using SeaMonkey.

Have you considered using Enigmail? To be honest, I didn't even know
SeaMonkey had a built-in way to send/receive encrypted e-mail messages.

Enigmail provides this and has been working for me for years.
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Re: A quick question

[Mark Hansen]

On 10/16/2010 3:00 PM, Zeb Carter wrote:
> JeffM wrote:
>> Zeb Carter wrote:
>>> [...]I am recreating my USENET lists[...]
>>>
>> If you're going to be posting to USENET,
>> avoid using inane Subject lines like "A quick question".
> 
> Your reply was MOST helpful. NOT! And thanks to Leonidas Jones and J. 
> Weaver for their quick help. My problem was quickly resolved!

What you must not realize is that people search the subject lines
from past posts looking for potential solutions. By using a nonsense
subject line, you basically make this really hard.

Too bad really...

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Re: Dealing with forwarded messages

[Mark Hansen]

On 10/14/2010 3:54 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Ken wrote:
> 
>> Beverly Howard wrote:
>>> >> When a message is forwarded, there appears a vertical line on the
>>> left side <<
>>>
>>> I think Paul has identified the problem, but, to clarify what's
>>> happening;
>>>
>>> Check to see if there are ">" characters in the message source of the
>>> message before it is forwarded... if you edit in html (your message edit
>>> toolbar will have font and other formatting options) those will be
>>> converted to the vertical bars you describe when you "quote" the
>>> original message or forward inline.
>>
>> I am not sure you understand what I was trying to do. I wanted to REMOVE
>> the vertical bars from a forwarded message I had received and then
>> forward that message to someone else. My reason for removing those bars
>> was that the content of the message was being moved so far to the right
>> due to the vertical bars that a scroll bar would appear on the bottom of
>> the message.
>>
>> Now maybe you understand my question and I do not understand your
>> solution? Are you suggesting that I EDIT the message while viewing it in
>> MESSAGE SOURCE and then send the message?
> 
> OK, let's take it step by step.
> 
> First of all, when forwarding, you have two options: "inline" or 
> "attachment." If you choose "attachment," the original message is 
> forwarded intact and you can't edit it. So if you want to make any 
> changes -- removing quote bars, pruning extraneous material, etc. -- you 
> need to forward it inline.
> 
> Second, if you forward inline, as far as I can tell that will always 
> produce a plain-text message with quote marks (">"), not bars. I know of 

I don't think that's true. I've always composed messages in plain text. When
I first starting working with SeaMonkey, replies to some (perhaps all? I can't
remember for sure) messages would use the vertical bars to show quoted text.
To switch to the "> " quoting style, I had to set the following preferences
in my user.js file:

user_pref("mail.quoted_graphical", false);
user_pref("mail.quoteasblock", false);
user_pref("mailnews.display.disable_format_flowed_support", true);

Whether or not this will actually help the OP with his question, I'm not
sure.

Best Regards,
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Re: Hard-to-describe Seamonkey mail question

[Mark Hansen]

On 10/6/2010 2:20 AM, Lucas Levrel wrote:
> Le 5 octobre 2010, Bill Spikowski a écrit :
> 
>> Right -- I should have been clearer, my question is about POP, not IMAP
> 
> Clearer? Your first post clearly states your server is an IMAP one... 

No. He said he didn't want to use IMAP.
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Re: Windows XP Pro. SP3's screen saver and monitor sleep not starting with SeaMonkey v2?

[Mark Hansen]

On 9/26/2010 11:10 PM, Ant wrote:
> On 9/26/2010 1:19 PM PT, Bill Spikowski typed:
> 
>>> Is it me or does Windows XP Pro. SP3's screen saver and monitor sleep
>>> sometimes not start with SeaMonkey v2 running? Has anyone else noticed
>>> this too?
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance. :)
>>
>>
>> I've noticed that behavior regardless of whether Seamonkey is running
> 
> Hmm, I seem to notice it more with SM running. :(

So you also notice it when SeaMonkey is not running?
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Re: Print to File in E-Mail - Problems

[Mark Hansen]

On 9/25/2010 11:47 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> JeffM wrote:
> 
>> DoctorBill wrote:
>>> [...]an E-Mail[...]I wanted to print it to a file
>>> so that I could print it out with a word processor.
>>> Tried to "Print to File" when I clicked the Print Button.
>>>
>> Your expectations are so far off, it's humorous.
>> The file format will be "your printer's language" (gibberish).
>> Not reusable in the slightest.
> 
> One of his expectations is reasonable -- that the system should give him 
> some indication that the job was in process, completed, failed, stalled, 
> etc. If "nothing happens," something is wrong somewhere.
> 

He said he was asked to provide a file name, which he did. Sounds like
it did what it was asked to do - write to the file.
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Re: Cannot send except at home

[Mark Hansen]

On 9/22/2010 11:50 AM, d...@kd4e.com wrote:
> 
> You mean that when I am at the coffee shop and am using their Wifi I
> would need to ID their server and add it in order to send E-mails?
> 
> The same with the Dunkin Donuts, the library, the airport, etc?

Most likely, yes.

> 
> I have not had to do this before and have never heard of the need
> to do this before.

Perhaps you're ISP never required this before?

> 
> Has something changed so that everyone needs to do this in SM now?
> 
> 

Nothing has changed in SeaMonkey to affect this. Check with your ISP.
Most (all?) that I've dealt with do not allow anyone that is not on
their network to use their SMTP server. Some will allow as long as
you authenticate. It's a spam reduction issue (and I suppose a denial
of service issue, etc.).

To find out if your ISP allows this at all, and how they want you to
authenticate, you will need to check with them.

... just don't tell them you're using SeaMonkey - they will likely just
clam up at that point and refuse to help.
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Re: compact folder

[Mark Hansen]

On 9/18/2010 9:05 PM, Norvin wrote:
> I screwed up and hit the compact folder and now I need to un-compact the 
> folder. Help doesn't show any compact items, any suggestion.
> TIA

Compact folder just cleans up the unused space and re-organizes the folder.
There is no 'un-compact' operation.

Perhaps you should explain the problem you're having?
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Re: .NET Framework 4.0 Issue

[Mark Hansen]

On 8/31/2010 10:54 AM, Ken wrote:
> On Aug 31, 9:45 am, "David E. Ross"  wrote:
>> Is your server sniffing for "Firefox"?  It should instead sniff for
>> "Gecko".
>>
>> However, if you make your site compliant with the W3C specifications, it
>> is likely that you do not have to sniff at all.
>>
>> For an explanation of sniffing, see my
>> .
> 
> 
> I don't think "sniffing" is the issue we're running into. We are
> checking the user agent but it's only to limit the browsers that can
> access the site period, not to serve up different content based on the
> browser used.
> 
> What is happening is that the script resources and hidden fields used
> by asp.net ajax are not getting registered on the page when we run the
> app in the 4.0 version of the .NET Framework. Everything works great
> running under the 3.5 version though. The only real difference is that
> for the 4.0 version is that there are some sections removed from the
> web.config file and are supposed to be used from the machine.config.
> For some reason, SeaMonkey just isn't getting it.

Ken,

  If you're building the web site with a tool like Microsoft VS.NET,
are you sure it is not doing any sniffing?

  To be sure, try changing the user agent string sent by SeaMonkey
to that normally sent by Firefox and see what happens. If the application
begins working, it's a sniffing issue.

Good luck.
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How to get Reply and Reply To to ignore my email address

[Mark Hansen]

I'm still using SeaMonkey 1.1.19 on Windows/XP. For some time now
(I can't remember when this changed) I've enjoyed the feature that
when I reply to an e-mail message, SM knows not to place my e-mail
address in the To: field, even when I'm replying to a message which
I sent.

For example, say I send a message to Fred, and Fred sends a response.
If I reply to Fred's response, it places Fred's e-mail address in the
To: field. However, if I replay to my original message, it knows not
to place me in the To: field, and instead places Fred there.

I really like this feature. I recently installed SM 1.1.19 at my
new office (also running Windows/XP) and can't get it to work that
way. When I reply to a message, it always places the sender in the
To: list, even when it's me.

Is there a user preference to change this which I'm missing?

Thanks,
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Re: ?ignore=this

[Mark Hansen]

On 8/17/2010 1:01 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
> Mark Hansen wrote:
>> On 8/17/2010 6:40 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
>>> Mark Hansen wrote:
>>>> On 8/16/2010 5:55 PM, d...@kd4e.com wrote:
>>>>> I was looking at sci-fi movie clips and came upon this
>>>>> link:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.moviephiles.com/index.php?ignore=this
>>>>>
>>>>> I have not noticed "ignore=this" before and was curious
>>>>> what is the purpose of it, please?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "ignore" is a parameter to the "index.php" page. The value "this"
>>>> will be interpreted by that page. You would need to look at the
>>>> source for that page to know for sure what it does with it.
>>>>
>>> How to look at the source ?
>>
>> Ask the website owner? PHP is a server-side technology. This means
>> that the PHP file is 'executed' on the server, and the result is
>> the actual HTTP response sent to the client (browser). From the client,
>> you can't (generally) get access to the PHP file directly.
> 
> Therefore we don't need the source, we just need to ask the website 
> owner for an explanation about the "?ignore=this" 

I think there may be some confusion going on here. When I refer to
the source of the PHP file, I'm not talking about what you get when
you do a 'View Source' in the browser. When you do a 'View Source' in
the browser, you're getting the 'result' of the execution of the PHP
file - not the source of the PHP file itself. Unless a site is configured
badly, you can't view the actual source of a PHP file.

My point in answering the OP's question was that "ignore" wasn't an
'Industry Standard' web site parameter.
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Re: ?ignore=this

[Mark Hansen]

On 8/17/2010 6:52 AM, d...@kd4e.com wrote:
> In the top toolbar click View then scroll down to Page Source.
> 
> 
>> Ray_Net wrote:
>>>
>> How to look at the source ?
> 
> 

That's not (usually) going to show you the source of the PHP file.
It will show you the result of the execution of the PHP file, which
can be (and usually is) quite different.

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Re: ?ignore=this

[Mark Hansen]

On 8/17/2010 6:40 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
> Mark Hansen wrote:
>> On 8/16/2010 5:55 PM, d...@kd4e.com wrote:
>>> I was looking at sci-fi movie clips and came upon this
>>> link:
>>>
>>> http://www.moviephiles.com/index.php?ignore=this
>>>
>>> I have not noticed "ignore=this" before and was curious
>>> what is the purpose of it, please?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> "ignore" is a parameter to the "index.php" page. The value "this"
>> will be interpreted by that page. You would need to look at the
>> source for that page to know for sure what it does with it.
>>
> How to look at the source ?

Ask the website owner? PHP is a server-side technology. This means
that the PHP file is 'executed' on the server, and the result is
the actual HTTP response sent to the client (browser). From the client,
you can't (generally) get access to the PHP file directly.
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Re: ?ignore=this

[Mark Hansen]

On 8/16/2010 5:55 PM, d...@kd4e.com wrote:
> I was looking at sci-fi movie clips and came upon this
> link:
> 
> http://www.moviephiles.com/index.php?ignore=this
> 
> I have not noticed "ignore=this" before and was curious
> what is the purpose of it, please?
> 
> 

"ignore" is a parameter to the "index.php" page. The value "this"
will be interpreted by that page. You would need to look at the
source for that page to know for sure what it does with it.

There isn't anything special about it.

Perhaps the "application" used on that site is used by more than
one site, and this is why you've seen this at more than one location?

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Re: seamonkey.exe

[Mark Hansen]

On 7/29/2010 9:29 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:
> Mark Hansen wrote:
>> On 7/28/2010 1:25 PM, Roger Fink wrote:
>>> Rick Merrill wrote:
>>>> Very often   seamonkey.exeshows in the process list
>>>> (Task Manager) BUT the GUI never runs.
>>>>
>>>> This happens after uninstalling or installing some other
>>>> sort of software unrelated to SeaMonkey.
>>>>
>>>> Typically I will have to shut down and restart twice!
>>>>
>>>> What to look for that could be causing this?
>>>
>>> On my machine I associate it with the 'minimize-to-tray plus' extension.
>>> It's hard to imagine another application or process external to SeaMonkey
>>> plunking down SeaMonkey in Task Manager.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> What about a virus or trojan?
> 
> No root kits, no spyware - MSE and others confirm.

Just because some tool says you're not infected doesn't mean you're
not infected; it means they were not able to find any infection.

> 
> (no promises about tomorrow!)
> 
> 
> 
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Re: seamonkey.exe

[Mark Hansen]

On 7/28/2010 1:25 PM, Roger Fink wrote:
> Rick Merrill wrote:
>> Very often   seamonkey.exeshows in the process list
>> (Task Manager) BUT the GUI never runs.
>>
>> This happens after uninstalling or installing some other
>> sort of software unrelated to SeaMonkey.
>>
>> Typically I will have to shut down and restart twice!
>>
>> What to look for that could be causing this?
> 
> On my machine I associate it with the 'minimize-to-tray plus' extension.
> It's hard to imagine another application or process external to SeaMonkey
> plunking down SeaMonkey in Task Manager.
> 
> 

What about a virus or trojan?
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Re: Signature file - graphic possible ?

[Mark Hansen]

On 7/4/2010 7:49 PM, DoctorBill wrote:
> How do I set my E-Mail as to which kind I can receive ?
> I don't know at this point.

You can configure SeaMonkey to view the message as plain text,
simple HTML and original HTML (see View -> Message Body As ->...)

> 
> I did not know that HTML type of mail can carry viruses.
> 
> I suppose I will give up contemplation of a graphic signature.
> 

You don't have to go that far (although I would). You just need to
make sure that your recipients are okay with it. For example, if
you send an HTML only e-mail (a message which has only HTML and
no plain text part) and your recipient doesn't read HTML messages,
they won't read yours.

On the other hand, if you send your message formatted with both
HTML and plain text parts, the user can choose which they want to
view, but the message is going to be larger.

Again, you and your recipient can agree on what is acceptable. This
get harder when you want to send a single message to a group of
recipients.

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Re: Signature file - graphic possible ?

[Mark Hansen]

On 7/4/2010 1:38 PM, DoctorBill wrote:
> Actually - I did not mean for this News Group, but for General E-Mail 
> messages.
> 
> Also, the link you sent shows what from - the EDIT | Mail & News Groups 
> Account Settings ?
> 
> I send in HTMLandplain text.
> 
> How does one insert a picture or graphic in there ?
> 
> I am not a programmer, so you need to lead me by the hand.
> 
> DoctorBill
> 
> 

You cannot insert pictures into plain-text messages. Plain text is plain
text. You can do ASCII art, but I realize that is not what you're asking
about.

If you want to send HTML, you should make sure your recipient is OK
with it. Those that understand the danger in HTML e-mail simply won't
even look at it. Of course there are a lot of people out there that
just don't know any better. They're the ones always complaining about
getting viruses, etc. :-\
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Re: Try this

[Mark Hansen]

On 6/23/2010 7:08 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Since you started a new thread with a new subject and didn't quote any 
> of the previous message, how is anyone supposed to know who this is for? 
> Which of the other 52,708 messages in this group is/are relevant?

Sheesh, I could tell what he was talking about. You couldn't? :-\
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Re: Deleted email not moved to Trash folder?

[Mark Hansen]

On 6/23/2010 7:57 AM, Beverly Howard wrote:
>  >> My experience with SM (1.x) is that deleted unread messages appear 
> in the specified trash folder as unread messages.  <<
> 
> sorry, but a related question that I have to ask...
> 
> how are you selecting the "unread" message?
> 
> obviously, if you click the header, then delete the message, it will 
> have been "read" before deletion.
> 
> Beverly Howard
> 
> 

Obviously? :) Actually, selecting the message doesn't mark it as read
unless you have the preview pane open and have the setting to 'mark it
as read within a few seconds' set to a time short enough that it gets
marked before you delete it.

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Re: Change NEW profile to DEFAULT?

[Mark Hansen]

On 6/19/2010 8:19 AM, W3BNR wrote:
> After using Netscape and SeaMonkey for many years my profile got quite 
> sizeable.  A few months ago I created a "NEW" profile.  Is there any way 
> to get rid of the old DEFAULT profile and have the NEW profile as DEFAULT?
> 

Yes. You can run profile manager to remove the old "default" profile.
When SM starts and there is only one profile there, it will use it
(I'm almost sure about that). However, if you want to rename the new
profile to "default" you can do that too.

I've done this several times. Never had any problems with it.
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Re: Configure seamonkey to use the Adobe PDF Browser plug-in

[Mark Hansen]

On 6/4/2010 4:14 PM, L. Mark Hall wrote:
> There seems to be some confusion here.
> 
> I started a new thread about problems I am having with pdf files, thus 
> the subject line. I just checked, and the message was posted to 
> support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org and no one else, so I am not sure 
> where the confusion came from.
> 
> Sorry if someone thinks I am replying to their thread. Replies to the 
> question about pop3 and imap will have the subject line,
> 
> Re: email pop3/imap
> 
> and not something else.
> 
> LMH

Your message was "threaded" under Stan's message. Threading involves more
than  just the subject line. I use a news reader which understands threading,
as do most people, I suspect, so I see your message as a response to Stan's
message.

My guess is that you created your message as a response to Stan's message,
then changed the subject line - thinking this was enough to create your
own new message. To create your own new message, you actually need to create
a new message, and not reply to another message.

I hope this helps clear this up.

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Re: email pop3/imap

[Mark Hansen]

On 6/4/2010 1:56 PM, stan wrote:
> Hi,
> How can I change existing email account from pop3 mail server to imap 
> mail server without creating new account.
> 
> I f I have to create new account how do I transfer existing folders to it.

As far as I know, there is no way to convert an e-mail account from pop3
to imap. You will have to create a new account.

Once you have both accounts, you can access them both at the same time,
and copy messages from one to the other, etc. I think you can copy entire
folders as well, but I've never had to do this. Perhaps someone else knows
for sure.

Good luck.
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Re: question

[Mark Hansen]

On 5/21/2010 6:09 AM, Norvin wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 5/20/10 8:41 PM, Norvin wrote:
>>> Jay Garcia wrote:
 On 20.05.2010 21:34, Norvin wrote:

  --- Original Message ---

> Trying to connect to Redbox and keep getting the following error code.
 What error code?

> Is there a fix for this? Using SM 1.1.18
 Maybe, if you post the error code. ;-)

>>> Damm, must of had a senior moment, sorry, had it copied, but not pasted.
>>>
>>> XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
>>> Location: 
>>> http://www.redbox.com/?cid=PS:Yahoo:Yahoo%20RAIS:YahooRAISredbox1:red%20box:54479&tracking_ID=3b515e8c-4331-6289-4af8-5401f553
>>> Line Number 90, Column 65:>> href="http://ebm.e.redbox.com/r/regf2?n=1&aid=2082183869&a=0"; 
>>> target="_blank">
>> 
>> If the page you are trying to reach is
>> , it works okay
>> for me.
>> 
>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9)
>> Gecko/20100317 SeaMonkey/2.0.4
>> 
> Yes, but try the same link and click on "find a movie", that is where 
> the error shows up. It does work in Firefox but not SM 1.1.18

It's a browser sniffing problem. I tried the site using SM 1.1.16 and
got the error. I then switched the user agent to spoof FireFox 3.X, and
it worked.

Contact the site admin and let them know that they are sniffing for
Firefox when they should be sniffing for Gecko.
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Re: Profile Manager does not work

[Mark Hansen]

On 5/14/2010 11:27 PM, Marisa Ciceran wrote:
> Mark Hansen wrote:
>> Keep in mind that unless you take specific precautions to prevent it,
>> trying to launch SM 2.X while SM 1.X is running will only result in a
>> new SM 1.X window (and the reverse is also true).
> 
> What you are mentioning are not issues in my case. I do not open two 
> versions of SeaMonkey simultaneously and the Application Data files are 
> always in separate folders.

When you launch a SM 2.X shortcut and it opens a SM 1.X window, close
that window and go to task manager and look at the processes tab (not
applications) and see if there is a seamonkey listed there.
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Re: Profile Manager does not work

[Mark Hansen]

On 5/14/2010 2:28 PM, Marisa Ciceran wrote:
> 
> My intention was to delete all the older versions of SeaMonkey, but the 
> malfunctioning 2.0.4 Profile Manager forced me to reinstall 1.1.19 
> yesterday, and use that for the second profile. A new conflict came up 
> with this. Although the programs and profiles are all in different 
> folders, the 2.0.x desktop icons sometimes link to the 1.1.19 program 
> instead of 2.0.x.

When you say "link to" do you mean you look at the properties of the
shortcut and see that it references the 1.X executable, or just that
when you click on the link, you get a SM 1.X window?

Keep in mind that unless you take specific precautions to prevent it,
trying to launch SM 2.X while SM 1.X is running will only result in a
new SM 1.X window (and the reverse is also true).

Also remember that SM 1.X has a quick launch feature which keeps SM
1.X running even when you don't have any windows open (if you enabled
it during the installation - but I can't remember if enabling it is
the default).
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Re: Profile Manager does not work

[Mark Hansen]

I'm not using SM 2.X yet, so I can't comment on that. However, I just
wanted to make sure you understand that the profile manager for SM 2.X
will see only the SM 2.X profiles - it won't see the SM 1.X profiles.
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Re: phishing

[Mark Hansen]

On 5/13/2010 10:59 AM, Pat Connors wrote:
> I really want to thank all for the help you are giving me.
>> Download the "free version" fromhttp://www.malwarebytes.org/  and run it
>> ASAP.  This is probably the best free programs available to detect and
>> remove any unwanted files on your pc.
>>
> 
> I did this and this is the 3rd scan in less than 24 hours that I have 
> done (McAfee, Windows Security) and this one took the longest (over 2 
> hours) and scanned over 275,000 files and I really feel it was the most 
> complete.  None of them found anything.  Remember this is a brand new 
> computer.  I am confident their is no virus/worm on my computer.

Actually, virus scanning as a whole is hit or miss. Just because you
run  one (or all) of them doesn't in any way mean you don't have a
virus, etc., on your machine.

The only tool in existence that will prevent your machine from getting
a virus is to never turn it on in the first place.

The scanner/cleaner tools can find most things, but they can't by
any stretch of the imagination find everything. This just isn't
possible.

To help you see this, imagine the company that created a virus scanner.
They designed their scanner to look for particular patterns in files
which match known virus patterns. Known at that time, that is. Now,
consider the situation even 5 minutes after they released their latest
virus scanning database to you. Someone on the planet can develop a
new virus which the scanner software doesn't know to look for.

How will running the scanner software catch this one? It simply can't.

In a few days/weeks, the software may be updated to catch that particular
virus (depending on how easy it is to detect and how quickly the scanner
software people are able to react to it).

Note also that if you're the only one hit by a particular virus, the
scanner software people may not even know about it - so their software
might never be updated to look for it.

I hope this help you understand things a bit better.

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Re: PDF files as attachments that won't open.

[Mark Hansen]

On 5/5/2010 8:58 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
> I wish folks would but what system they use within the text of the post. 
> Many things about SeaMonkey  are mostly the same between platforms. How 
> your arrive at that point sometimes is different. I use the normal 
> window for headers which doesn't show the  the platform  using a Laptop 
> your limited to screen real estate as it is with out using the larger 
> window for all.
> 

Just hit Ctrl-U (or whatever it is on the Mac for View Source) and
look at the User-Agent: header. It's no guarantee, but it's probably
right most of the time.
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Re: How to set up a Newsgroup Subscription

[Mark Hansen]

On 5/5/2010 6:24 AM, Beorc kano wrote:
> On 5/5/2010 8:14 AM, Mark Hansen wrote:
>> On 5/4/2010 7:31 PM, chicagofan wrote:
>>> That might not be a bad idea.  I've read of lots of people with profile
>>> problems, and I think many them had to reinstall SM.  I haven't had that
>>> problem, so I can't offer any useful advice.
>>>
>>> Hopefully, someone else will chime in with some suggestions.
>>> bj
>>
>> FYI: Uninstalling/reinstalling SeaMonkey doesn't clean out any problems
>> which may be in the profile.
> But if the profile were misconfigured in the program itself due to an 
> error or somesuch during installation, would not uninstalling it 
> completely and starting from scratch have a possibility of correcting 
> the configuration error?

If the specific program were designed to do so, then yes. It would be
up to each program designer to decide what to do in such cases.

As for SeaMonkey, I don't believe it will. However, I'm not one of
its designers so factor that in to how you value my answer.

If you feel the problem you're having is due to a corruption in the
profile, the best way to diagnose that is to create a new profile.
You can do this without re-installing the software. If the new
profile doesn't exhibit the unwanted behavior, then your original
profile may be corrupted (or otherwise have a problem).

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Re: How to set up a Newsgroup Subscription

[Mark Hansen]

On 5/4/2010 7:31 PM, chicagofan wrote:
> That might not be a bad idea.  I've read of lots of people with profile 
> problems, and I think many them had to reinstall SM.  I haven't had that 
> problem, so I can't offer any useful advice.
> 
> Hopefully, someone else will chime in with some suggestions.
> bj

FYI: Uninstalling/reinstalling SeaMonkey doesn't clean out any problems
which may be in the profile.
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Re: signature delimiters

[Mark Hansen]

On 5/1/2010 1:29 PM, Jay Garcia wrote:
> On 01.05.2010 13:40, Mark Hansen wrote:
> 
>  --- Original Message ---
> 
>> On 5/1/2010 6:45 AM, Phillip Jones wrote:
>>> But I use the dash,dash, space so that it only shows the first time I 
>>> post in any given thread.
>>> 
>> 
>> Actually, that statement is not quite correct. If you have your
>> newsreader configured to include your signature when you post, then
>> it will be included in every message you post.
>> 
>> What a properly-formatted signature will do is allow decent newsreaders
>> to strip the signature from your message when a reply is made to your
>> post.
>> 
> 
> That's not what Phillip meant. What he means is exactly what you said,
> his sig only shows once but not in subsequent replies where it is stripped.
> 
> 

Yes, I wasn't correcting what he meant. I was correcting what he wrote :)
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Re: signature delimiters

[Mark Hansen]

On 5/1/2010 6:45 AM, Phillip Jones wrote:
> But I use the dash,dash, space so that it only shows the first time I 
> post in any given thread.
> 

Actually, that statement is not quite correct. If you have your
newsreader configured to include your signature when you post, then
it will be included in every message you post.

What a properly-formatted signature will do is allow decent newsreaders
to strip the signature from your message when a reply is made to your
post.

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Re: Adobe Flash plugin problem?

[Mark Hansen]

On 4/29/2010 3:18 PM, Dick Hoffman wrote:
> Maybe I spoke too soon. I installed the User Agent Switcher, switched to 
> IE7 and tried to load the video. I got a different appearing page but 
> the video still did not play. Also tried IE8 setting with same result. 
> Deinstalled the Switcher.
> Dick
> 

Actually, you're running a Gecko-based browser, so you want to
spoof Firefox. If the site is sending IE-specific code when it
thinks you're running IE (because you spoofed it that way), then
you'll get code your browser can't run.

Just so you understand, the spoofer doesn't make your browser
*act* like the browser you're spoofing. It just makes your
browser *say* it's the browser you're spoofing.

You'll want User Agent Switcher. If I were you, I would install
it and learn to use it.

By the way, it doesn't come with any Firefox user agent settings.
You'll need to get your own and add them to it. You can search
(using Google or similar) for "User Agent Strings" to find lots
of them available.

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Re: seamonkey mail says "unable to authenicate to SMTP server.."

[Mark Hansen]

On 4/25/2010 11:46 AM, Ken Honeyman wrote:
> Lance Courtland wrote:
>> Test wrote:
>>> This happened to me and another person here after we upgraded to 2.04
>>>
>>> This worked for us
>>>
>>> In email go to
>>> Edit
>>> Mail & News Account Settings
>>> Outgoing Server - click on edit
>>> Uncheck Use Secure Authentication
>>>
>>> me2 wrote:
 I should have mentioned I'm running 2.0.4 SM, and that under Default
 encryption while grayed out Never is selected.

 On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:47:03 -0500, me2
 wrote:

> No security is selected but any attempt to send mail produces this
> message."Unable to authenticate to SMTP server
> It goes on to say, "The server does not support any secure compatible
> secure authentication mechanism..."
> No encryption is selected in Mail security..
> No security is selected in Server settings.
> Selecting security from top mail menu "Digitally signed No, Encrypted
> No."
> I did a cold boot problem continues.
> The old copy of 1.17 on the same machine works correctly in mail as
> does a copy on another machine on the same network.
>
> any suggestions welcome.
>>>
>> This is due to a change in the port and authentication of the Comcast
>> SMTP server. (Thanks for telling us, Comcast)
>>
>>  From a mail page, go to Edit/Mail & newsgroups account
>> settings/Outgoing server (SMTP)/select Comcast and then Edit.
>>
> 
> I have had the same problem on my supplier but I can follow these 
> instructions up to and including selecting my "Outgoing server (SMTP)" 
> but then how am I supposed to "then Edit"? All I have is a drop down 
> selection list with SMTP server names, I've tried picking each one and 
> the all seem to produce the error but I can see no route into edit 
> anything about them... they are just a selection drop down list. There 
> is no "Edit" button, right clicking them does nothing. I've read all the 
> help, I've searched all the menus... I am very puzzled. :-\
> 
> 
> Ken

Then you're in the wrong place.
When running SM Mail and Newsgroups, go to

  Edit -> Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings...

This will give you the Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings dialog.

In the tree view on the left side of that dialog, scroll to the bottom
and you should see an entry named: Outgoing Server (SMTP)

Click on that.

Now, on the right side of that dialog will be a list of outgoing servers
(of which there may only be one in your case). Select one of them and then
click on the Edit... button.

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Re: Seamonkey Mail

[Mark Hansen]

On 4/25/2010 11:38 AM, JAS wrote:
> Michael wrote:
>> I usually access Seamonkey Mail through the quick launch bar of the
>> Seamonkey brower.  I recently accessed Mail from the Seamonkey program
>> group on the Start Menu.  Much to my surprise, it appears that there
>> were two different sets of my mail folders.  One set, much older than
>> the other.
>>
>> Is there any way to access Mail through either the browser, or the
>> Start menu, using the same set of folders?
>>
>> Thanks...
>>
>> Michael-
>>   
> I would guess that the quick launch is your old 1.*** browser and the SM
> in the Start/Program site is your newer 2.** browser. SM  2.0 does not
> use the quick launch.
> 

I'm not sure the OP is really talking about Quick Launch.

Michael: Quick Launch is a feature of SM 1.1.X where it would place a SM icon
in the Windows system tray (that area on the right of the task bar where the
clock sits), which you can click on the launch an instance of the browser.

Is that what you mean?
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Re: problem loading boston.redsox.mlb.com

[Mark Hansen]

On 4/22/2010 5:17 PM, L. Mark Hall wrote:
> I have used seamonkey for years, and mozilla before that. I am still 
> using seamonkey 1.1.17 becaise the 2.0 versions just won't start when I 
> double click on the .exe, even with a brand new XPSP3 installation.
> 
> At the moment, I am not able to access the site, boston.redsox.mlb.com
> 
> The site starts to load, but then hangs and I have to kill the seamonkey 
> process in the task list. I am able to access the main mlb.com site, but 
> not the boston site. I have manually added boston.redsox.mlb.com to the 
> site list to allow session cookies. It also doesn't seem to matter if I 
> turn of may firewall or not, I still get the same problem. Suggestions 
> would be appreciated. This is the first time I have ever had problems 
> loading this site.
> 
> LMH

Just for a data point, the site loads fine for me here running SM 1.1.16
on Windows/XP.

Can you try using a freshly-created test profile and see if the problem
still occurs?

Also, I wonder if the problem is with the version of Flash. Perhaps
you could try installing the latest version of Flash?

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Re: Help me to remove SeaMonkey 2.0.3

[Mark Hansen]

On 4/19/2010 4:40 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
> S. Beaulieu wrote:
>> Ray_Net a écrit :
>>> Et celui qui veut réellement désintaller SeaMonkey ? il ne le peux plus ?
>>
>> J'avais mal compris : je croyais que le problème était qu'il n'y avait
>> plus d'entrée « Seamonkey 2.x » (par opposition à juste « Seamonkey »).
>>
>> Je viens de vérifier et j'ai bien l'entrée dans ma liste (elle dit «
>> Seamonkey (2.0.4) », alors le problème ne doit pas être là.
>>
>> Peux-tu désinstaller le logiciel en passant par Programmes -> Seamonkey
>> -> Uninstall?
>>
> Cela n'existe pas . c'est dommage 

This is an English news group, right?
If you two wish to converse in French, perhaps you should take it to
a private message?

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Re: Moving email folders out of SM...

[Mark Hansen]

On 4/18/2010 8:19 PM, Keith Whaley wrote:
> I am working with SM 1.1.18, and Mac OS 10.6.3.
> My email and newsgroup ISP is DSLExtreme.com, which has contracted with 
> Google 
> to handle all their email activities. I’m now using GMail, whether I want to 
> or not.
> 
> I have just run across Google’s 7 GB limits on stored messages, emails, etc.
> 
> I have a few folders in SM with saved emails going back a few years.
> I want to keep a few of them, which means moving the folders OUT of SM‘s Home 
> Account.
> I can’t find a way to do that. They won’t click-slide out of the Home Account 
> folder to the desktop. There is no choice offered me when I Control-Click my 
> mouse button.
> 
> Who knows how I might move any of those individual folders out of the Home 
> Account?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> keith whaley
> 

Can you move them to your Local Folders? That should be located in
the profile on your local machine.
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Re: inserting all e-mail addresses

[Mark Hansen]

On 4/8/2010 4:18 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
> My ISP is stickler for not been labeled as friendly to spam. Do I get 
> spam. I have one mailbox that I use strictly to catch spam. and even on 
> my good address I still get about 20 pieces of Spam a day. once every 
> week on both account I go into web mail and throw out about 50 on my 
> good account and about 300 pieces in my throw away account.

Your ISP not allowing you to send spam is in no way related to the amount
of spam you receive (except that it may reduce spam you might have
received from other members of your ISP).

> 
> I wish there was a signal you could push that would send a signal to the 
> originating server that would literally either wipe the drive out so it 
> would not even be able to be reformatted. or would blow the equipment 
> completely up.

That's simply ridiculous.
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Re: Pop-up?

[Mark Hansen]

On 4/9/2010 4:20 AM, stan wrote:
> Is it possible to treat these JAVA scripts like virus?
> There is handful of the scripts out there which are used by the majority 
> users so using the library, they can be all be identified.
> 

Note: JAVA scripts is not the same as JavaScript. JavaScript is a proper
name. If you want people to understand what you're talking about, you're
going to want to use the correct name.

FYI.

Anyway, you can disable JavaScript in the preferences. I'm still on
1.1.X, so the exact location may be different for you. For me, it
is in Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Scripts and Plug-ins, then
clear the 'Enable JavaScript for..." check boxes (or make other
settings there).

Note that many sites depend on JavaScript (unfortunate, but true)
so this may limit your browsing experience.
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Re: Moving from 1.1.18 (now default) to 2.0.3 (to become default).

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/30/2010 5:45 PM, MCBastos wrote:
> Interviewed by CNN on 29/3/2010 14:12, Frog told the world:
> 
>> I believe everything from line 5 (Profiles) through line 16
>> (news.mozilla.org)is related to SeaMonkey 1.1.18.  Is that
>> correct?
>> 
>> I believe everything from line 17 (SeaMonkey) to the end of the
>> data presentation is part of SeaMonkey 2.0.3.  Is that correct?
> 
> Yes, those sure look correct.
> 
>> 
>> I presume that making a backup would involve copying everything from
>> line 1 through the end of this presentation to a location on my "E"
>> drive.  Is that correct?
> 
> Yes, that's a good approach. You probably could limit the backup to the
> 1.1.18, but let's be paranoid and get everything. Better safe than sorry
> and all that.
> 
>> Once the backup has been made, I would then proceed to the "Profile
>> Manager" to delete my SeaMonkey 2.0.3 "default" profile.  I would
>> accomplish this by going to--start>SeaMonkey(making sure that the
>> SeaMonkey selected belongs to 2.0.3)>Profile Manager (click "Manage
>> Profiles...")>make sure the "default" profile is selected/highlighted
>> and then click "Delete Profile".  At this point, my SeaMonkey 2.0.3
>> "default" profile is gone--is that correct?  Will this delete all of the
>> entries included in the above data presentation that pertain to
>> SeaMonkey 2.0.3?
> 
> Actually, I'm not sure if it will delete the files from the disk. Maybe
> it will just ignore those files from now one. You should check later,
> and delete if necessary. But anyway, not having the old profile listed
> might be enough to satisfy Mozilla.
> 
>> Your instructions at this point are a little confusing to me.
>> MCBastos indicates that I should "Use the Profile Manager to import the
>> profile from my 1.1.18 installation.  I was unable to find any
>> indication of how to import information from 1.1.18 while in the
>> SeaMonkey 2.0.3 "Profile Manager".  Thus, I presume that I would have to
>> create a new profile before the import option would appear.  Is that
>> correct?
> 
> No, I don't think so. I think you are supposed to start the import
> process without creating a profile. Mark's explanation is probably more
> correct than mine in this particular.

>From what I understand, when you launch SM 2,X and it doesn't find a
2.X profile, but it does find a SM 1.X profile, it will ask if you
want to migrate it.

> 
>> Mark Hansen indicates that once the 2.0.3 "default" profile is gone, I
>> can then launch SM 2.x again and it will ask if I want to migrate my
>> 1.1.18 profile information to a new 2.0.3 profile.  Is this correct?
>> The migration of this information during installation of 2.0.3 worked
>> just fine, so let's hope that process will go smoothly again.
> 
> Yeah, that sounds right. If you don't have a default profile, Seamonkey
> will ask you if you want to create one or import one. I guess I goofed.
> 
> 
>> Once the new profile is established for 2.0.3, I will change the
>> settings in 1.1.18 to check "Leave messages on the server" and uncheck
>> "Leave messages on the server' on 2.0.3.  I will make this change here--
>> Mail window>Edit>Mail & Newsgroups Account
>> Settings...>f...@verizon.net>Server Settings>Leave messages on server.
>> Is that the correct location for making this setting change?
> 
> That's right. Only, I would change this setting right *before*
> migration, right before closing 1.1.18 for the last time.
> 
> The reason for this is that, if a message arrives after you close 2.0.3
> and before you open 1.1.18 post-migration, you don't want 1.1.18 to
> delete that from the server.

Yes. Tell SM 1.X to no longer fetch mail (or remove it from the
server) before you begin the final migration to SM 2.X.
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Re: install SeaMonkey

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/29/2010 5:39 PM, RGrannus wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 3/29/10 6:58 AM, Barbara Norvell wrote:
>>> The last time if upgraded to SeaMonkey (2.03)  I did it over top the 
>>> previous SeaMonkey.  Could this be the reason that I am having so many 
>>> crashes.
>>>
>>> Barb
>>> Mac osx  10.4.11
>>> 768 mb ram
>> 
>> If you installed it over 2.0, 2.0.1, or 2.0.2, there should be no
>> problem.  If you installed it over a 1.X version, that might be the
>> problem.
> 
> 
> Where should 2.03 be installed?  Right now my SM 1.18 is in C> Program 
> Files> Mozilla.org> SeaMonkey.
> 
> Do I install it under Mozilla.org or create another folder?
> 

Install it anywhere you like - you can even use the default provided
by the installation. Just don't install it in the same directory as
SeaMonkey 1.X
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Re: A pop up alive forever

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/27/2010 7:34 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
> Ray_Net wrote:
>> I had this problem with SM1, and expected a solution in SM2.
>> NO !!!
>> Sometimes when sending mail, the popup windows entitled "Sending
>> Messages -" with
>> Status: Copy complete
>> Progress: [showing a never ending moving little green bar]
>> is visible.
>> The mail is well sent.
>> The copy of the mail in the "Sent" box is done.
>> This pop-up did on end ...
>> - What could we do with this "bug" ?
> 
> I submitted a bug weeks ago about it at Bugzilla. I don't think there 
> has been any activity on it. I don't recall getting CC's about anything 
> other when I submitted comments I even post attachment showing the 
> window. I suppose it could be fixed if someone was interested in looking 
> at it.  It just started in 1.1.17 and hasn't been fixed in 2.0.3
> 

I've seen this long before 1.1.17. I don't remember exactly when it started,
but it's been happening for years, and I'm still only on 1.1.16.

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Re: A pop up alive forever

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/27/2010 5:38 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Ray_Net wrote:
>> I had this problem with SM1, and expected a solution in SM2.
>> NO !!!
>> Sometimes when sending mail, the popup windows entitled "Sending 
>> Messages - " with
>> Status: Copy complete
>> Progress: [showing a never ending moving little green bar]
>> is visible.
>> The mail is well sent.
>> The copy of the mail in the "Sent" box is done.
>> This pop-up did on end ...
>> - What could we do with this "bug" ?
> 
> I believe that it happens when the SMTP server accepts the mail but doesn't 
> return a final status indicating it's done. It usually will complete if you 
> leave it for a bit, I'm moderately convinced that it's a server problem.

That's debatable. If what you say is true, the server is doing something which
the application is not dealing with, and it should. Leaving the dialog up there
forever (I once left it for a day, it was clear it was never going to go away
on its own) is not the answer.

> 
> I don't see it on most of my mail, where the mail server is my own, and 
> doesn't 
> hang. I see it on remote mail (and news) servers, and when it finally 
> completes 
> there's a bump in network usage about the right size for a completion message 
> and socket teardown.

Given that your dialog eventually goes away on its own, perhaps it's a different
problem?

I've seen this on my own, local SMTP server. This lives on my local network. My
network is never very busy. Of course, this doesn't mean that it's not a timeout
of some kind, but it seems unlikely. It's happened to me several times, and 
there
has never been anything going on at the time that made me think it may be a
resource issue.
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Re: Moving from 1.1.18 (now default) to 2.0.3 (to become default).

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/26/2010 5:23 PM, Frog wrote:
> I have now used SeaMonkey 2.0.3 in a learning mode long enough for me to 
> believe that it will meet my personal browser requirements.  In fact, 
> the only difficulty I found with 2.0.3 was a problem with the "Go" 
> button on the mail window (see earlier thread in this group titled "Mail 
> & Newsgroup Account Settings and Leave Messages on Server Settings" for 
> details about that problem).
> 
> I am now wanting to know the best way to migrate all of my mail, address 
> book, settings, etc. (not sure what else might be included under my 
> profile) from 1.1.18 to 2.0.3.
> 
> I have set 2.0.3, so that it leaves all messages on the server during 
> this learning period--messages are removed when downloaded to 1.1.18.  I 
> have only downloaded a very small number of messages to 2.0.3, since it 
> was installed on my system.  Thus, I would like to make sure that 2.0.3 
> includes all of the messages that are presently on 1.1.18.
> 
> As with the messages, there have been other changes on 1.1.18 that must 
> be migrated to 2.0.3.  Additions have been made to the address book and 
> setting changes have been made.  I desire to have 2.0.3 up-to-date on 
> these subjects and any others, that I am not technically knowledgeable 
> about and that should also be migrated.
> 
> I have only one Profile in 1.1.18 and only one profile in 2.0.3 (it was 
> migrated from 1.1.18 as a part of the installation of 2.0.3 on my system).
> 
> I need some basic-level instructions on how to update 2.0.3 with 1.1.18 
> information.
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> 
> 
> Windows XP Pro SP3
> 
> 
> Frog

As long as you've made no changes to your 2.X profile which you can't live
without, I think the best approach is to delete the 2.X profile completely
(back it up first!) and then when you launch SM 2.X again, it will ask to
migrate your settings again.

This time, the migration will be the final one (assuming it goes well,
of course). As a result, you should go into your SM 1.X settings and
tell it to "Leave messages on the server", since SM 2.x will become
the official place for your e-mail.

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Re: Anybody gotten Nuke Anything Enhanced to work with SeaMonkey 1.x?

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/26/2010 12:35 PM, JeffM wrote:
> First, the name nuke_anything_enhanced-1.0.2-fx+sm.xpi
> is a lie--at least, in part.
> I get an "Install script not found" error with SM1.
> 
> I unzipped it
> and edited **install.rdf** so that minVersion is 1.1.
> (The addons.mozilla.org/.../firefox page
> says it works with Firefox 2.0 (Gecko 1.8) or later;
> the copy of the file available from the
> addons.mozilla.org/.../seamonkey page
> is identical and doesn't make any adjustments
> for the SeaMonkey numbering system
> while claiming to support SeaMonkey 1.1 or later.)
> 
> I zipped it back up and still get the error.
> Anybody tried this?
> Anybody see something I'm missing?
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/951
> 
> ...or did my app just screw things up zipping the file?

I could be wrong, but I thought that error was because the
installer expects the Firefox installation tools, which
Seamonkey 1.X doesn't have. I don't believe it's as simple
as fixing a version in the installation files.
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Re: Seamonkey freezing Computer

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/24/2010 5:00 PM, William Morrison wrote:
> 
> Hi Guys
> 
> Thanks Mark & Beau, well I had just got the wife's approval to use some 
> of our tax return money to buy some more ram anyway. I ran task manager, 
> ran the same scenario and it showed that when I had Farmville and the 
> email open and when the CPU was hitting 100% I was 561meg deep into the 
> swap file so I guess I'll max it out with 2 gig. The motherboard is a 
> MSI KM400 MS-7061 and will take up to 2 gig of PC3200. Sorry Bill, it 
> not that I don't appreciate the offer but I figure I might as well take 
> it to the max while I have the wife's approval and that way I will have 
> a warranty to fall back to if anything happens to the ram during 
> shipping. Now If I can just find who it was online the other day that 
> had a 2gig upgrade package of DDR for $63.00USD. One thing I did just 
> check and change for the time being was my swap file initial size, I had 
> it set at 4096 with max also at 4096, I now have the initial set at 512 
> with max still at 4096 and it seems to allow the CPU to drop back to 
> around 50% much quicker than it did with both at 4096. Thanks again, I 
> really didn't think it was Seamonkey that was the problem but wasn't sure.
> 

I've always had real good luck with Crucial (http://www.crucial.com).
I found three motherboards there that met what you wrote above, so
you may have to do this search yourself, but with the board I guessed
at, I found the following:

http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=MS-7061%20%28KM4M-V%29

1GB sticks for about $39 each.

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Re: Seamonkey freezing Computer

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/24/2010 2:14 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> William Morrison wrote:
> 
>> Hey Group
>> 
>> I'm having trouble with Seamonkey freezing my computer
> 
> Windows XP, right?
> 
>> ... My computer is running a AMD Athalon XP 2.1Ghz with 512 meg of DDR
>> PC2100 ram, Display Adapter VIA/S3G UniChrome IGP integrated on
>> motherboard.
> 
> Add more ram!  At least get it up to 1 GB.

At today's prices, I wouldn't stop there. Windows love RAM :(

> 
> Check the task manager while all your stuff is going on and see how much
> free ram you have .. and how deep into the swap file you are.

That's the true check. If your machine is swapping heavily, good night!
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Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/24/2010 11:38 AM, NoOp wrote:
> No. You said: "you have for extensions". Your screenshot is of the
> plugins. Click on the 'Extensions' tab/button and you will see the 'Find
> Updates' button.

Actually, what Phillip said was:

> I try to update plugins as they are updated.
> 
> Would love to see a system lick [like] you have for extensions where you 
> check 
> for updates and it notifies of updates available.

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Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/22/2010 9:19 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Mark Hansen wrote:
>> On 3/21/2010 7:23 AM, Benoit Renard wrote:
>>> Robert Kaiser wrote:
>>>> Benoit Renard schrieb:
>>>>> As another user demonstrated, the subject line makes
>>>>> one think that support has been dropped, and that's it.
>>>> And that's exactly what the announcement intended to do. Success on all 
>>>> targets.
>>> Except that your announcement contradicts this, because it also 
>>> announces that for those who want to stay with 1.1.x that 1.1.19 is 
>>> available. Or do you really want everyone to stay with 1.1.18 and have 
>>> all the work on 1.1.19 be for nothing?
>> 
>> Huh? Where did you get that? Did you even read the announcement? It
>> really doesn't sounds like it.
>> 
>> For example, as part of that message, he said (paraphrased):
>> 
>> SM 1.x is really old.
> 
> Given that 2.x release is only out less than a year, that's political spin 
> more 
> than any conventional understanding of "really old." v1.1.17 was released in 
> about June of last year, 1.1.18 after that. A serious form filler has only 
> been 
> out a few months, so many people couldn't think of migrating before that.

I think the original message was referring to 1.X as a product line.
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Re: Two profiles, I only created one

[Mark Hansen]

[ goodness, please trim replies... ]

On 3/22/2010 4:54 AM, Daniel wrote:
> O.K., Monica, forget the "Manage Profiles" bit for now. Just select 
> Tools->Switch profiles and check out what the other profile/s contains.
> 
> When you installed SM 2.0.x, it should have made a copy of your SM 
> 1.1.xx profile (the .slt one) and called the new one ".default". If your 
> SM 1 profile is still there, it will not have your latest email, for 
> example, but would be complete upto your change-over date. Just check it 
> out!
> 
> Daniel

But doesn't SM 1.x and SM 2.x each place their profile directories in
different locations (by default)? Aren't the two profiles being discussed
here in the same directory?

That seems suspicious to me.
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Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/21/2010 7:23 AM, Benoit Renard wrote:
> Robert Kaiser wrote:
>> Benoit Renard schrieb:
>>> As another user demonstrated, the subject line makes
>>> one think that support has been dropped, and that's it.
>> 
>> And that's exactly what the announcement intended to do. Success on all 
>> targets.
> 
> Except that your announcement contradicts this, because it also 
> announces that for those who want to stay with 1.1.x that 1.1.19 is 
> available. Or do you really want everyone to stay with 1.1.18 and have 
> all the work on 1.1.19 be for nothing?

Huh? Where did you get that? Did you even read the announcement? It
really doesn't sounds like it.

For example, as part of that message, he said (paraphrased):

SM 1.x is really old.
SM 2.X is new and should be used if possible.
... for those that cannot upgrade to 2.X now, there is a final 1.X
release available, 1.1.19, which fixes some security stuff ...
There will be no further SM 1.x releases.

Pretty clear to me.
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Re: Accounts - What is the process for seeing all possible subjects that one can subscribe to?

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/20/2010 9:50 AM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> Mark Hansen wrote:
> 
>> Frog wrote:
>>> By accounts I am referring to sites similar to the following (the
>>> three that I currently have on my system):
>>> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
>>> mozilla.support.seamonkey
>>> news.verizon.net
>> 
>> Fine. Those are news group server accounts.
> 
> No, the first two are newsgroups.

Uggg. Of course, you're correct. I looked at the last one and
"imagined" they were all news group accounts :(
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Re: Accounts - What is the process for seeing all possible subjects that one can subscribe to?

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/19/2010 10:05 PM, Frog wrote:
> 
> I understand about subscribing to other Mozilla newsgroups listed under 
> the Mozilla account on my system.  I also have an account on my system 
> for Microsoft.  Lets say that I wanted to establish an account for 
> genealogy--where do I find server addresses for this subject?
> 
> I made a quick review of the two web sites you referenced above. Because 
> of the time (1 AM), I will explore both sites in more depth 
> tomorrow--I'm about to go to sleep.
> 
> Frog
>> 

I much prefer the news reader interface for reading news groups (such
as the reader provided by SeaMonkey). However, it seems to be going by
the wayside, and many new "news" sites are popping up using a web-based
interface.

By the way, my ISP provides a fairly complete list of usenet news groups
in their news server, and I found several "alt.birdwatching." groups.

Perhaps you just need to get a real general-purpose news server, as
Daniel suggests.

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Re: Accounts - What is the process for seeing all possible subjects that one can subscribe to?

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/19/2010 9:51 PM, Frog wrote:
> Thank for the help Mark.  It's good to hear from you again.
> 
> Mark Hansen wrote:
>> You're using terminology which I don't completely understand, so my
>> help will be a guess at what you actually mean. I hope this is helpful...
>> 
>> On 3/19/2010 4:44 PM, Frog wrote:
>>> I am currently subscribed to three accounts (established when I 
>>> purchased my computer).  I would like to subscribe to others such groups 
>>> like genealogy, bird watching, traveling, etc,  I don't know how to 
>>> access a complete listing of all possible groups that one can subscribe to.
>> 
>> I don't know what you mean by Accounts here. Do you mean e-mail accounts?
>> ISP accounts? Perhaps if you could provide us the names of these accounts,
>> it will become clearer.
> 
> By accounts I am referring to sites similar to the following (the three 
> that I currently have on my system):
> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
> mozilla.support.seamonkey
> news.verizon.net

Fine. Those are news group server accounts.

> I have found the Microsoft and Mozilla groups to be a great place to 
> learn things about my computer and an even greater place find help when 
> I don't know how to solve a problem.  The news.verizon.net is, however, 
> a mystery--Verizon is my ISP.  When looking at the SeaMonkey mail window 
> I do the following:  Click "Go">I click news.verison.net in the drop 
> down window that appears>a window titled "Subscription" opens and it 
> appears that my computer is attempting to connect to Verizon.  After a 
> short time, a new window opens with the following comment--Connection to 
> server news.verizon.net timed out.  The subscription window does not 
> list any news groups that I can subscribe to.

It sounds like your news group account is not set up properly. You should
check with the IPS to see what you should be using. To set the account
properties, go to Edit -> Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings, then navigate
in the left-hand tree view to news.verizon.net. The pages associated
with that entry provide all the configuration.

Perhaps they need authentication or a different port number, etc. Are
you sure that "news.verizon.net" even exists?

You should be able to browse to your IPS's support page and get help
on setting up the news group account. Note that they won't provide
instructions for SeaMonkey, but the configuration "items" will be
basically the same as, for example, Firefox (host name, port, etc.)

> 
> I was thinking that there must be thousands, if not millions, of such 
> sites on the Internet.  I thought maybe there would be ones for 
> genealogy--bird watching--travel, etc.  As  I have likely stated on this 
> group before, I am retired and attempting to keep my mind busy learning 
> new things.

Each news server (like news.verizon.net or news.mozilla.org) will have it's
own set of news groups. The Mozilla server will have Mozilla-specific
groups only. However, most news servers carry most of the usenet groups
(groups on just about every topic you can imagine). There may be news
servers (notice I said "servers") which are dedicated to bird watching,
but I'm not aware of any.

> 
> I hope this clarifies what I was referring to when I used "Accounts" in 
> my first message.  I used accounts simply because each of the three 
> accounts listed above are included under Edit>Mail & Newsgroups Account 
> settings... on the SeaMonkey mail window.  I called them accounts based 
> on this information.

They are accounts. More specifically, they are news group accounts. As
there are other types of accounts, if you just say "accounts" we won't
know which type of account you're talking about. :)
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Re: Accounts - What is the process for seeing all possible subjects that one can subscribe to?

[Mark Hansen]

You're using terminology which I don't completely understand, so my
help will be a guess at what you actually mean. I hope this is helpful...

On 3/19/2010 4:44 PM, Frog wrote:
> I am currently subscribed to three accounts (established when I 
> purchased my computer).  I would like to subscribe to others such groups 
> like genealogy, bird watching, traveling, etc,  I don't know how to 
> access a complete listing of all possible groups that one can subscribe to.

I don't know what you mean by Accounts here. Do you mean e-mail accounts?
ISP accounts? Perhaps if you could provide us the names of these accounts,
it will become clearer.

> 
> When I click File (on the SeaMonkey Mail page)>open Subscribe--I can 
> only see the three Accounts that are currently subscribed to on my 
> system.  Should I be able to (somehow) access the complete listing from 
> this window?

I'm using SM 1.1.16, but I don't see File -> Open -> Subscribe. Did you
mean File -> Subscribe?

SM should be managing two types of "accounts" for you: E-Mail accounts
and News Group accounts.

When I select my e-mail account (I use an IMAP server), I can subscribe
to specific mail boxes within that account.

When I select a news server account, I can subscribe to specific news
groups within that server. As an example, on news.mozilla.org news
server, I have subscribed to the mozilla.support.seamonkey news group
(among others).

> 
> Is there some place on the web that will help me with this subject?

This news groups seems fine :)

> 
> Also, I think I will have to establish a new entry in the Mail & 
> Newsgroups Account Settings for each group I subscribe to--is that correct?

Not for each news group you subscribe to. You just create a Newsgroup
account for the news server (like news.mozilla.org or one provided by
your ISP), then you can subscribe to individual news groups provided
by that server.

> 
> I know that the answers to my questions are located someplace on the 
> Internet--but where?
> 
> Thanks for any information sent my way on this subject.
> 
> Windows XP Pro SP3 -- both SeaMonkey 1.1.18 and 2.0.3
> 
> Frog

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Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/17/2010 1:18 PM, Benoit Renard wrote:
> I find the subject to be inappropriate, considering that it's about the 
> last release of a branch instead of solely the decision to stop support. 
> A better subject would have been: "SeaMonkey 1.1.19 released, end of 
> line for 1.x".

Hmmm, I had no trouble understanding the subject or content of the message.

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Re: add to status bar

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/14/2010 1:39 PM, Rick Merrill wrote:
> Jay Garcia wrote:
>> On 14.03.2010 08:46, Rick Merrill wrote:
>>
>>   --- Original Message ---
>>
>>> Bill Davidsen wrote:
 Rick Merrill wrote:
> is there a way to add, say, create-message to the status bar?

 That's what the "Compose" button does. I assume you mean in mail, since
 it makes no sense in the browser...

>>>
>>> Right. I have one in the windows task bar , but since the
>>> SM status bar is mostly empty I wondered if things could be added to it.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I assume you mean the "lower" status bar. No, not that I am aware of.
>> However, the "Compose" button can be moved to other locations via the
>> "customize" function by drag-n-drop somewhere else but not in the lower
>> status bar.
>>
>>
> 
> Thank you. I feared as much.  It is such a large space ... especially
> during operations such as compose mail ...
> \
> 

But if you're already composing an e-mail, why would you need access to
the compose button?
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Re: Problems after upgrading SeaMonkey from v1.18 to v2.03

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/11/2010 5:06 PM, cmcadams wrote:
> Read replies to other messages of mine. Simple assertions that it is 'bad' to 
> install 
> multiple versions. No direct evidence, since I've never even tried to install 
> two 
> versions at the same time.

Yes, I've read all the messages, thanks.
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Re: Browser crashes seamonkey whenever invoked since version 2.0

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/11/2010 6:30 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
> Mark Hansen wrote:
>> On 3/11/2010 11:12 AM, Phillip Jones wrote:
>>> Mark Hansen wrote:
>>>> Why not just create a new profile and test using that?
>>>
>>> Normally you would, but he indicated as soon as you got to the browser
>>> SM dies (crashes)  and if he should have set to open on web page rather
>>> than than mail&  news. what then?? if it will stay open long enough to
>>> do so by all means create a new profile. But he sounded as if as soon as
>>> SM opened it went to white screen then crashed.
>>>
>>
>> Why not launch the profile manager?
>>
>> At the very least, before you tell someone to delete a bunch of their
>> files (for a "test") at least advise them to back up the files first.
>>
>>
> That's the reason I suggested making back up copies of the mail and news 
> folders, you can always re added your themes and extensions.
> 

There's more there. Hopefully, no one will actually take your advice
so I suspect it doesn't really matter.
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Re: Problems after upgrading SeaMonkey from v1.18 to v2.03

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/11/2010 12:23 PM, cmcadams wrote:
> Mark Hansen wrote:
>> On 3/11/2010 11:08 AM, cmcadams wrote:
>>> Mark Hansen wrote:
>>>> On 3/11/2010 12:17 AM, cmcadams wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> According to the received, or at least frequently expressed, wisdom, 
>>>>> hereabouts,
>>>>> having SM1 and SM2 installed simultaneously may not be wise. :/
>>>>
>>>> You can have both installed at the same time. You just need to take
>>>> special steps if you want to run both at the same time.
>>>
>>> I'd be glad to know those steps, if you have a link.
>>
>> There is a command-line argument which you can pass to SM 2.X, named
>> I think: -no-remote, which will allow SM 2.x to launch even though
>> SM 1.1.X is currently running.
>>
> 
> Thanks. I think the issue in many of the comments I've read, though, is that 
> of 
> versions possibly stepping on each others' resources.

They each have their own profile, so there is nothing for each other to
step on. Do you have any evidence otherwise?
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Re: Browser crashes seamonkey whenever invoked since version 2.0

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/11/2010 11:12 AM, Phillip Jones wrote:
> Mark Hansen wrote:
>> Why not just create a new profile and test using that?
> 
> Normally you would, but he indicated as soon as you got to the browser 
> SM dies (crashes)  and if he should have set to open on web page rather 
> than than mail & news. what then?? if it will stay open long enough to 
> do so by all means create a new profile. But he sounded as if as soon as 
> SM opened it went to white screen then crashed.
> 

Why not launch the profile manager?

At the very least, before you tell someone to delete a bunch of their
files (for a "test") at least advise them to back up the files first.


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Re: Problems after upgrading SeaMonkey from v1.18 to v2.03

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/11/2010 11:08 AM, cmcadams wrote:
> Mark Hansen wrote:
>> On 3/11/2010 12:17 AM, cmcadams wrote:
>>>
>>> According to the received, or at least frequently expressed, wisdom, 
>>> hereabouts,
>>> having SM1 and SM2 installed simultaneously may not be wise. :/
>>
>> You can have both installed at the same time. You just need to take
>> special steps if you want to run both at the same time.
> 
> I'd be glad to know those steps, if you have a link.

There is a command-line argument which you can pass to SM 2.X, named
I think: -no-remote, which will allow SM 2.x to launch even though
SM 1.1.X is currently running.

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Re: Problems after upgrading SeaMonkey from v1.18 to v2.03

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/11/2010 12:17 AM, cmcadams wrote:
> 
> According to the received, or at least frequently expressed, wisdom, 
> hereabouts, 
> having SM1 and SM2 installed simultaneously may not be wise. :/

You can have both installed at the same time. You just need to take
special steps if you want to run both at the same time.
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Re: Browser crashes seamonkey whenever invoked since version 2.0

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/11/2010 6:46 AM, Phillip Jones wrote:
> Steven Holt wrote:
>> I've updated from 2.0 to v. 2.03 and still the browser immediately blows
>> up the whole program every time it is invoked. The browser window tries
>> to open and before anything fills into the all white browser window,
>> seamonkey dies and goes to an error reporting message box.  I've asked
>> for help with this in the box and so far zero response.
>>
>> The problem started after a browser crash.  I suspect that there is a
>> page that was in this very last crashed session that is causing the
>> endlessly ongoing crash,  How can I clear the last session out of the
>> way without losing all my emails and passwords etc?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Steve Holt
> 
> Try going into the profile and saving your mailbox and news Directories 
> and folders. and possibly your passwords.
> 
> then completely remove the profile and dump in Trash (wastebasket) then 
> reopen SM let it create an ew profile. Quit then add back your news and 
> mail folders.
> 

My goodness. Delete all the contents of the profile, just to see if it
was a problem with the profile? Hint: There's more there than what you've
recommended that the OP save off. Following your recommendation, he would
lose a lot of content just for this "test".

Why not just create a new profile and test using that?
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Re: Autoupdate of SeaMonkey 2.x.x

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/7/2010 5:10 PM, Philip Chee wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 16:37:18 +0100, Ray_Net wrote:
> 
>>> Prefable, so you can choose to NEVER have this happen and instead dl
>>> manually from website. But *MOST* people prefer this.
>>>
>> Where did you find that "*MOST* people prefer this." ?
>> You have asked and collected the answers from all ?
> 
> The people in the SeaMonkey forums on Mozillazine have been uniformly
> appreciative of the autoupdate feature.
> 
> Phil
> 

In fact, I've been watching these forums for years, and it's a feature
that's been begged for as long as I can remember.
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Re: Delays in loading pages

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/7/2010 6:40 AM, FDVS wrote:
> HEY!
> I have discussed this with a computer guru and apparently I have been 
> thinking about this all wrong.
> 
> Blocking the sites google-analytics and googleadservices makes for a 
> LONGER wait time!
> 
> When you block them, as I have done in the Hosts file, the browser waits 
> until they time-out!  I thought it would completely ignore the attempt 
> to connect, resulting in the webpage load to be faster - but it's the 
> exact opposite!  It has to wait to see if the tracker will be able to 
> connect and then when it doesn't, after a few seconds, it goes on to 
> load the page.
> So I am going to UNBLOCK the sites in Hosts!
> 
> Thanks!!!
> Dave

That ... or get a new computer guru.
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Re: Mail in the In box just disappeared

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/6/2010 12:54 PM, Lee wrote:
> Hi Bill
> 
> Thanks for your reply.  As long as they are marked unread I don't lose
> them in the trash file, in the incoming email I did not have that problem
> but now it is the same, if it is marked unread no problem, read and close
> it and they are gone.  Weird for sure!  I have SM set with do not delete
> in Mail and Newsgroups.  Set in the mail folder and in the browser.  No
> luck.  Lucky for me I had done a recent backup and after strenuous thinking
> I remembered where to find them so did not lose all that much.  Just ticks
> me off.  Now I have to look in the about:config and see if I can find any
> thing in there that would cause it.  Computing can be so much fun! (grin)

Did you verify that for the mail folder in question (Inbox, Trash, etc.)
you have:
  View -> Messages -> All, and
  View -> Threads -> All

To check, select the mail box (Inbox, for example), then go to the View
menu and along from there.

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Re: Address Book question

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/6/2010 10:32 AM, FDVS wrote:
> WinXP Pro SP3, not sure what an LDAP is so I probably don't use.  When I 
> installed SM last week I had it import all my addresses from Netscape, 
> into its address book.
> 
> version 2.0.3
> * Copyright © 1998-2010 by contributors to the Mozilla Project.
> * Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; 
> rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100205 SeaMonkey/2.0.3

I'm not using SM 2.X yet, so I'll let someone else try to help you with
that.

> 
> xx
> PS when I get these emails, I have to click ReplyAll, then delete the 
> top (personal ones), then the bottom one and send them to the middle one:
> support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
> 
> Is that right?  No other listservs that I am on do this
> xxx

I don't use mailing lists when there is a news server available. I don't
understand why anyone would, but that's just me. If you're having problems
with the mailing list, perhaps you should try using a news reader instead?
After all, SeaMonkey provides an integrated news reader, in the very same
application that you're using to read e-mail.

Just create a new account for news (not e-mail) and point it at 
news.mozilla.org,
then subscribe to mozilla.support.seamonkey.


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Re: Delays in loading pages

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/6/2010 10:11 AM, FDVS wrote:
> I tried to install it is not working as advertised.  Could it be due to 
> this?  (from Adblock website)
> Installation in SeaMonkey
> 
> "Unfortunately, in SeaMonkey 1.1 and below it is impossible to install 
> Adblock Plus in the user profile. Adblock Plus will need to be installed 
> in the application directory. This has the consequence that Adblock Plus 
> needs to be reinstalled after each SeaMonkey update. Also, usually only 
> privileged users can install to application directory (on Unix systems 
> this is root)."
> 

So what do you mean it didn't work? Did you install it into the
Application profile rather than the user profile?

Are you running on a UNIX system?
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Re: Address Book question

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/6/2010 8:26 AM, FDVS wrote:
> It used to be, in Netscape, I could type the first letter of my best 
> friend's name, "Jeff" into the address bar "To: j " while posting an 
> email..and it would autofill Jeff and his email address.
> 
> In Seamonkey, when I type "j" up comes the name and address of another 
> friend, "Spike" with his email address.  He has no j's in his name or 
> his email address.
> 
> So far I have accidentally sent Spike a couple of emails meant for Jeff. 
>   Not too embarrassing, as I normally don't post dubious stuff but I 
> would like to find out why and fix it!
> 
> Thanks!
> Dave

What version of SeaMonkey are you running? On what platform? What
type of address book (built-in or LDAP or other)?

I'm running SM 1.1.16 on Windows/XP SP3, and I don't have that problem.
However, I'm using an LDAP server for my address book, so perhaps this
is just a problem with the built-in address book?

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Re: Address book now accused of hijack

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/6/2010 6:28 AM, FDVS wrote:
>> You probably should begin your own thread for this question, rather than
>> hijacking someone else's thread. It will give your question better
>> visibility to more people that may be able to help you.
> 
> 
> I am going to need some help here, I have no idea what you are talking 
> about.
> 
> I was having a new problem, so I started a blank email to the group.  I 
> used my own title, I posted only my question.  I did not quote anyone 
> when I posted.
> 
> I just looked back at my sent message to confirm all that I am saying.
> 
> I also viewed my message, as it arrived at my inboxsame thing.
> 
> 
> Thank you.
> Dave

Oh, you're using an e-mail list. Probably you replied to the original
mail, then just changed the subject line, etc.?

I don't know how the mail lists work, but I would guess that when you
reply, it keeps the linkage between the message you replied to and
your message for threading purposes.

Instead, you should just create a brand new e-mail message. Then it
won't attempt to thread it with the other user's message.

Alternatively, you can use an actual news reader, like SeaMonkey.
Create a news account to the server news.mozilla.org then subscribe
to the mozilla.support.seamonkey newsgroup.
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Re: Address book problems

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/5/2010 6:48 PM, FDVS wrote:
> It used to be, in Netscape, I could type the first letter of my best 
> friend's name, "Jeff" into the address bar "To: j " while posting an 
> email..and it would autofill Jeff and his email address.
> 
> In Seamonkey, when I type "j" up comes the name and address of another 
> friend, "Spike" with his email address.  He has no j's in his name or 
> his email address.
> 
> So far I have accidentally sent Spike a couple of emails meant for Jeff. 
>   Not too embarrassing, as I normally don't post dubious stuff but I 
> would like to find out why and fix it!
> 
> Thanks!

You probably should begin your own thread for this question, rather than
hijacking someone else's thread. It will give your question better
visibility to more people that may be able to help you.

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Re: Nail & Newsgroup Account Settings (Mark Hansen)

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/5/2010 5:22 PM, Frog wrote:
> 
> Mark,
> 

[ snip ]

> 
> Lastly, I again want to thank you personally for your help and guidance

[ snip ]

Well, I'm just glad you got it all working. I haven't migrated to 2.X
yes, but I plan to eventually. I expect I'll run into some of these
issues as well :)

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Re: What is the command for SeaMonkey

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/5/2010 8:42 AM, Lee wrote:
> I can't find my notes and I want to look at
> the config, at leas I hope that is what it
> is where all the commands for seamonkey are.
> Age is getting longer and memory getting
> shorter.  I thought it was aboutcfg: but I
> guess I am wrong.
> 
> As I said earlier I keep losing mail and
> no warning either, I have it set to keep
> emails and warn me if delete but the last
> time the contents of the in box all disappeared.
> All I had done was click on an email.  Right
> now I have them all marked unread so they won't
> disappear.  Same in Trash if I mark them unread
> they stay but read and into limbo they go.
> 
> XP and Seamonkey 2.03
> 

Sounds like you're talking about "about:config"

As for your view problem, Have you checked:

  View -> Messages -> All

and

  View -> Threads -> All

(These are the menu items as of SM 1.1.16).

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Re: Nail & Newsgroup Account Settings (Attn both Mark Hansen and JAS)

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/4/2010 6:07 PM, Frog wrote:
> You don't know how happy you have made this old man this evening. Thank 
> you both for leading me to the answer.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Frog

I'm very glad you got it working. It was a brain teaser to say the
least!
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Re: Nail & Newsgroup Account Settings (Unanswered Part of this Thread)-More

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/4/2010 3:56 PM, Frog wrote:
> I have taken two additional steps since my last message.  I made the 
> 2.0.3 version my default browser.  That did not fix the problem.  I then 
> created a new profile (that included my Inbox)--the letters in the "Go" 
> drop down window remained gray.  I am now out of new ideas...short of 
> removing 2.0.3 and continue using 1.1.18.
> 
> Are there any other recommendations or thoughts?
> 
> Frog

Do you  use the three-pane layout for the Mail & Newsgroups application?
If not, can you try it? (in SM 1.1.X it was at View -> Layout -> Classic
View).

With this view, do you have anything listed in the left-hand pane? This
is where Accounts and News Servers are listed.

Are you able to click on the tree entry representing your e-mail
account? Does it show the set of operational links in the display
window (with links like Read messages, Compose a new message, etc.)?

Can you expand that tree node entry and see a list of your mail
boxes (Inbox, Drafts, Sent, etc.)? Can you click on these and
view their contents?

Can you expand the tree node entry for a news server and see the
groups to which you are subscribed? Can you click on one of these
groups and see the messages in the right-hand side?
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Re: Seamonkey 2.03

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/4/2010 1:03 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Mark Hansen wrote:
>> On 3/2/2010 6:02 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
>>> MCBastos wrote:
>>>> This is a known issue. In the old Seamonkey, if you chose to use
>>>> authentication or encryption in your POP/SMTP connections and the server
>>>> didn't support it, Seamonkey silently fell back to
>>>> unencrypted/unauthenticated mode and did the connection anyway.
>>>>
>>>> The new Seamonkey 2 doesn't do that -- if you ask for higher security
>>>> and the server doesn't provide it, it simply doesn't connect.
>>> Actually, I believe this is probably something else, as that specific 
>>> "problem" should have been fixed in 2.0.3 by going back to not doing the 
>>> additional check.
>>>
>>> Robert Kaiser
>> 
>> I thought the issue was that after migrating to 2.X, there was an
>> option selected for the mail server that shouldn't have been, and
>> it needed to be unchecked.
>> 
>> I just can't remember which option it was, but it was one of the
>> security/authentication options.
>> 
> Are you thinking of the problem that occurred with news servers which allow 
> access w/o auth, but post requires auth? If you tried to post you would get 
> back 
> a message that your SMTP server had a configuration error. Fixed in 2.0.2.
> 

No, I was thinking of the issue with the SMTP server settings. However, as
Robert has said, this is no longer a problem.

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Re: Nail & Newsgroup Account Settings (Unanswered Part of this Thread)

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/2/2010 11:01 PM, Frog wrote:
> 
> I don't know where you are finding checkmarks.  When looking a the 
> properties for a file under x.slt, I see two entries-- Read Only 
> and Hidden.  Neither box is checked for the files under the 
> xx.slt entry. I did notice one interesting difference between 
> 1.1.18 and 2.0.3 entries.  The entry for 1.1.18 is g62n48iz.slt and the 
> one for 2.0.3 is x1pbu8dh.default.  I had never noticed this difference 
> before tonight.

The naming different is fine. SM 2.0 just changed the name of the
directory where it keeps the profiles, that all.

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Re: Nail & Newsgroup Account Settings (Unanswered Part of this Thread)

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/2/2010 7:41 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Me, too.
> 
> A thorough examination of my system shows that all the /folders/ in my 
> profile have gray (not black) checkmarks, which normally indicates that 
> some of their contents are read-only and some are not (I suppose it 
> could also mean the attribute is not set for these folders). However, 
> all the actual /files/ are not read-only. This is with system and hidden 
> files and folders revealed.
> 
> Still, if the OP wants to clear the read-only attribute quickly and 
> easily after copying from a CD, the technique I described is the way to 
> go. Fast, easy, painless, guaranteed to work.
> 

Did the OP copy from a CD?
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Re: Nail & Newsgroup Account Settings (Unanswered Part of this Thread)

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/2/2010 4:48 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> In Windows Explorer, select the profile directory (the one above 
> .slt, where "" is a random assortment of numbers and 
> letters) and right-click the folder name. One of the options should be 
> "Properties." Choose that.
> 
> The dialog that appears should have checkboxes as follows:
> 
>   Attributes: [ ] Read-only   [Advanced...]
> 
>   [ ] Hidden
> 
> Click the "Read-only" check box once to clear it, or more than once if 
> necessary, but don't double-click it. Then click the "Apply" button at 
> the bottom. Windows will prompt you, asking whether to apply the change 
> only to the folder itself, or to the folder and all its contents. Tell 
> it to apply the change to all the contents. After a minute of thinking, 
> it should mark each and every file and subdirectory within the profile 
> as read-only.
> 
> You don't have to go through hundreds or thousands of files one at a 
> time by hand.
> 

Just FYI, my top-level SM 1.1.X profile directory also indicates Read
Only when viewed in Windows/Explorer and my application is running
normally.

Note that when I view the properties of individual files (not directories),
they don't show as read only. Perhaps checking the directories is not the
correct approach?

I'm running Windows/XP SP3, btw.
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Re: Seamonkey 2.03

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/2/2010 6:02 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
> MCBastos wrote:
>> This is a known issue. In the old Seamonkey, if you chose to use
>> authentication or encryption in your POP/SMTP connections and the server
>> didn't support it, Seamonkey silently fell back to
>> unencrypted/unauthenticated mode and did the connection anyway.
>>
>> The new Seamonkey 2 doesn't do that -- if you ask for higher security
>> and the server doesn't provide it, it simply doesn't connect.
> 
> Actually, I believe this is probably something else, as that specific 
> "problem" should have been fixed in 2.0.3 by going back to not doing the 
> additional check.
> 
> Robert Kaiser

I thought the issue was that after migrating to 2.X, there was an
option selected for the mail server that shouldn't have been, and
it needed to be unchecked.

I just can't remember which option it was, but it was one of the
security/authentication options.

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Re: Nail & Newsgroup Account Settings (Unanswered Part of this Thread)

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/1/2010 6:41 PM, JAS wrote:
> Frog wrote:
>> How do I switch to another theme?  I also am using Windows XP Pro SP3.
>>
>> Frog
> There are many good themes and I did not mean you should switch to
> Walnut. Try going to View when you have a web page up and at the bottom
> select apply theme and choose the one not checked and click on it. It
> will say it will apply when you restart SM -do that and see if it makes
> any difference, if not you can change back redoing it with the other. 
> Little Seamonkey,Walnut,Pinball,Sky Pilot are just a few of the themes
> you may use and switch back and forth as some people like some better
> than others as far as looks or buttons. Also you might try reinstalling
> SM 2. Hope you get it fixed.
> 

Since the OP is using the default theme, what do you think are the
chances that this will actually resolve his problem?

I'm afraid this may just be a wild goose chase which will require
a significant effort on the part of the OP to try.
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Re: lost inbox messages on 2.0.3 install over 1.1.7

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/1/2010 9:04 AM, John Clemente wrote:
> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>> u...@domain.invalid wrote:
>>
>>> I just loaded Seamonkey v. 2.0.3 over 1.1.17 and seem to have lost
>>> 43,000 messages in the Inbox. The install seemed normal and asked if i
>>> wanted to import a range of information, including mail which was
>>> selected.
>>>
>>> It imported all other boxes and profiles except my Inbox.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions appreciated.
>>
>> Assuming you've installed v.2 to a different location from v.1 (so you
>> have two inboxes, one for each version), you might try compacting
>> folders in v.2 to see if the messages magically reappear. If that
>> doesn't help, you can then go on to copy the v.1 inbox to the v.2 folder
>> (with both programs closed, of course).
>>
>> Agree that 43,000 messages is way too many for the inbox.
>>
> Paul:
> 
> I accepted the default location for the install and did not pay much 
> attention to where the program was installing v. 2.0.3.  1.1.7 in not 
> around any more so I can not check it.  I am running an up to date XP 
> Pro OS on C: and Seamonkey was installed to D:
> 
> I checked the path MCBastos gave us and find one one random.default 
> string which has four  sub folders... 'Local Folders', 
> pop1.attglobal-1.net,  pop1.attglobal.net, pop.gmail.com.
> 
> the pop1.attglobal-1.net has a 750 Meg inbox in it
> the other pop1 has an 839 KB inbox and is the one that is in the local 
> director server settings
> 
> I suspect the large inbox is the old e-mail.  So  -- the question.
> 
> How do I change the "local directory" settings to point to the 
> attglobal-1.net folder?  I tried to do it with the program open by using 
> the browse box but it did not work.

No, this would try to change SM 2.X to use your old SM 1.1.X profile. You
don't want to do that. What others are suggesting is that you copy the
inbox from your original SM 1.1.X profile directory to your new SM 2.X
profile directory (while both programs are closed, of course).

This will overwrite the Inbox in the SM 2.X profile, so make sure it's
empty (or that you don't mind losing its contents) before you copy the
file across.

> 
> Indeed I would like to make the large file an archive or an archive but 
> do not know how to get back and forth to access it and then get into the 
> smaller file.

Inbox is where incoming e-mail messages are initially placed. Just create
other mailbox folder and move the messages from inbox to these other folders.
For example, you can create a mail folder for Jokes, and copy all the Joke
e-mail messages you get to this mail folder.

If make a place to file all your e-mail messages, then your Inbox will be
left pretty much empty.

Note that the Inbox is a special mail folder, and it's generally considered
bad (in the universal sense of the word) to allow it to contain a large
number of messages.
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Re: Nail & Newsgroup Account Settings and Leave Messages on Server Settings (More)

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/1/2010 7:22 AM, Frog wrote:
> 
> I now wonder whether I should rename the "default" profile to something 
> else.

Why would you think you want to do that?

If you're thinking that somehow the fact that the profile is named "default",
this is causing some problems, it's not. That is the normal name of the
initial profile created when you run SM.

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Re: Nail & Newsgroup Account Settings and Leave Messages on Server Settings (More Again)

[Mark Hansen]

On 2/28/2010 1:07 PM, Frog wrote:
> 
> I did something that I hope I will not regret.  I believe I can easily 
> undo what I did; so, let me tell you about my actions.  I copied, from a 
> recent backup of my system (made before SeaMonkey 2.0.3 was added), the 
> Start Menu entry for SeaMonkey 1.1.18 to the Desktop.  Information was 
> taken from F:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs.  The 
> F Drive is a USB connected hard drive used only for making backups of my 
> system.  I renamed the file on the Desktop from SeaMonkey to SeaMonkey1. 
>   Next, using Windows Explorer, I moved the SeaMonkey1 file to 
> C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs.  This allowed 
> me to have access to my SeaMonkey 1.1.18 profile, etc.  It seems that 
> everything continues to work properly--the Desktop ICONs and the Start 
> Menu items.  Do you foresee any problems with what I have done?

No problem, but I think you went way overboard in creating these
shortcuts. You could have created them manually in far less time.

However, if they're working for you, then I don't see any other
problem with them.

Best Regards,
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