[Talk-transit] Bus Stops in Bath

2010-04-12 Per discussione Tim Francois
Hi guys, I assume this is the appropriate 'forum' for discussing NAPTAN import requests? I recently requested that any data be imported or made available for Bath (ATCO: 018) at the wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NaPTAN/Request_for_Import. Is the wiki still monitored, or should I

Re: [Talk-transit] Bus Stops in Bath

2010-04-12 Per discussione Thomas Wood
Tim Francois wrote: Hi guys, I assume this is the appropriate 'forum' for discussing NAPTAN import requests? I recently requested that any data be imported or made available for Bath (ATCO: 018) at the wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NaPTAN/Request_for_Import. My apologies,

Re: [Talk-transit] Bus Stops in Bath

2010-04-12 Per discussione Tim Francois
Tom, This has probably been covered countless times: what about those bus stops (the few!) which are there already in OSM - will these be auto-detected an not imported? Thanks for the quick response! Tim -Original Message- From: talk-transit-boun...@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-transit] Bus Stops in Bath

2010-04-12 Per discussione Thomas Wood
Unfortunately not, the decision was made to let people on the ground review which data was more correct. (Plus the author of the tool didn't have the coding experience nor the time to write something to compare the stops in the area and merge them)... Tim Francois wrote: Tom, This has

Re: [Talk-transit] Bus Stops in Bath

2010-04-12 Per discussione Vincent Pottier
Le 12/04/2010 18:42, Thomas Wood a écrit : Unfortunately not, the decision was made to let people on the ground review which data was more correct. (Plus the author of the tool didn't have the coding experience nor the time to write something to compare the stops in the area and merge them)...

Re: [Talk-transit] Bus Stops in Bath

2010-04-12 Per discussione Thomas Wood
Vincent Pottier wrote: Le 12/04/2010 18:42, Thomas Wood a écrit : Unfortunately not, the decision was made to let people on the ground review which data was more correct. (Plus the author of the tool didn't have the coding experience nor the time to write something to compare the stops in the

Re: [Talk-transit] Bus Stops in Bath

2010-04-12 Per discussione Chris Hill
The imports are not auto-merged. There is the NOVAM viewer: http://mappa-mercia.org/novam/ which helps compare the existing and imported stops. There are guidelines for dealing with the process of checking and merging stops too:

Re: [Talk-transit] Bus Stops in Bath

2010-04-12 Per discussione Tim Francois
Thanks for those links: exactly what I was looking for! Tim -Original Message- From: talk-transit-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-transit-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Chris Hill Sent: 12 April 2010 17:54 To: Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics Subject:

Re: [Talk-transit] Bus Stops in Bath

2010-04-12 Per discussione Vincent Pottier
Le 12/04/2010 18:51, Thomas Wood a écrit : Thank you for this, I'll look into it the next time I work on the code (which will be after my university exams have finished). We have also done a big import with Corine Land Cover data [1]. The polygons overlaping existing polygons were avoided.

Re: [talk-ph] road conversion from primary to trunk

2010-04-12 Per discussione Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd.
I assume routing software will prefer a trunk road over a primary road? The way I've done it, primary roads are the main thoroughfare through an area - the road most locals would choose when going *through*. I've upgraded a few roads to primary due to their importance. You could possible ask

Re: [talk-ph] road conversion from primary to trunk (warning: long email)

2010-04-12 Per discussione Rally de Leon
it's possible that it can improve, or may in fact worsen the routing computation (as far as time of estimated arrival of arrival is concerned) , depending on the speed assignment of trunk (or primary). if all trunk within the philippines have the same speed assignment, then routing will

[OSM-talk-be] De lijn: kaart met ballonnetjes, en de passerende bussen

2010-04-12 Per discussione Marc Coevoet
Dag, Ik weet dat er mensen overweg kunnen met google maps. Nu kun je daarin alle haltes kwijt, die dan als balonnetjes op de kaart komen (of met een Lijn logo). Dan kun je in de pop-up-tekst alle passerende bussen stoppen. (eventueel alleen na het uur NU) Nu kan zoiets wel in een GPS ook

Re: [OSM-talk-be] De lijn: kaart met ballonnetjes, en de passerende bussen

2010-04-12 Per discussione Lennard
On 12-4-2010 20:20, Marc Coevoet wrote: Iemand een idee?? Ik heb een idee: vraag De Lijn of we de data op bredere schaal mogen gebruiken dan de 'onderzoeks'-licentie op persoonlijke titel die je nu hebt verkregen. Import van de locaties van bushaltes in OSM vereist dat de licentie zich niet

Re: [OSM-talk-be] De lijn: kaart met ballonnetjes, en de passerende bussen

2010-04-12 Per discussione Marc Coevoet
Lennard wrote: On 12-4-2010 22:04, Marc Coevoet wrote: Lees dit eens: http://www.zdnet.fr/blogs/l-esprit-libre/le-ministere-de-la-justice-cree-une-licence-information-publique-librement-reutilisable-39750743.htm en ook: La licence simplifiée information publique librement réutilisable.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] De lijn: kaart met ballonnetjes, en de passerende bussen

2010-04-12 Per discussione Lennard
On 12-4-2010 22:55, Marc Coevoet wrote: Welwel, ik ga ervan uit dat als we gaan naar de chauffeurs, we gelijk krijgen. De chauffeurs hebben geen zeggenschap over deze bedrijfsvoering. Ik ga ervan uit, dat als we gaan naar Van Quickenborne, we gelijk krijgen. En dat is een heel andere piste.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] De lijn: kaart met ballonnetjes, en de passerende bussen

2010-04-12 Per discussione Marc Coevoet
Lennard wrote: On 12-4-2010 22:55, Marc Coevoet wrote: Welwel, ik ga ervan uit dat als we gaan naar de chauffeurs, we gelijk krijgen. De chauffeurs hebben geen zeggenschap over deze bedrijfsvoering. De chauffeurs iets tonen, zoals de poi (op een tomtom) is een interessante stap. De

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Per discussione Eugene Iline
Good morning, All. I am one of the representative of OSM/PocketGis team. At this moment we have 70+ active members of the both projects (OSM and PocketGis) simultaneously http://tinyurl.com/y3cotlt . We operate mainly in Moscow region, but we have active memebers throughout the whole western

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, Eugene Iline wrote: And that is all that happens. It seems to me that this little local rule of excluding landuse=military on the territory of Russian Federation will give OSM in Russia clear chanses not to be negatively influenced by state officials. It is perfectly ok for you to

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Per discussione Eugene Iline
2010/4/12 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org The one thing that is *not* ok is changing existing landuse=military tags *in the main database* to something else. This is the one important thing I took from Komяpa's message - people attempting to remove information from OSM hoping to please

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Per discussione Lester Caine
Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Eugene Iline wrote: And that is all that happens. It seems to me that this little local rule of excluding landuse=military on the territory of Russian Federation will give OSM in Russia clear chanses not to be negatively influenced by state officials. It is

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Per discussione Lester Caine
Eugene Iline wrote: 2010/4/12 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org mailto:frede...@remote.org The one thing that is *not* ok is changing existing landuse=military tags *in the main database* to something else. This is the one important thing I took from Komяpa's message - people

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Per discussione Peteris Krisjanis
Frederik, is it possible in Germany to give away state secret (if you know that some combination of information is not to be published for the reason that it is a secret by the law, only in combination) without being judged? You may say that to know a secret you must be allowed by the secret

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Per discussione Pieren
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com wrote: In this case for publishing I suggest to re-render it with stuff filtered out. Question is - how to automate it? In meantime, it would be nice to have some service where you can render/get planet.xml with stuff

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Per discussione Eugene Iline
That is not the core problem, please do not extrapolate. That is not as wide as you understand. We take here only one or two laws concerning state secret. And that has very little in common with, as you said, Soviet law (with the same dose of paranoia, of course). There is no word in these law

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, Eugene Iline wrote: Moreover you can never know the truth about the object behind the wall, I repeat. The only truth on ground is that this is a wall and access is prohibited. That's another situation then. If there's just a wall and armed guards then it might not appropriate to tag it

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Per discussione Pieren
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: But even as the most law-abiding citizen I have no legal obligation to log in to a database kept in another country and remove information about my country's military installations from there, or even try to convince

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm pdf in Illustrator - fonts issue

2010-04-12 Per discussione Maurizio Napolitano
it's a little bit complicate but, maybe, this guide can be good for you http://www.use-it.be/europe/docs/OSMmanual/ The idea is simple: transform the osm xml data in svg by using the xlst style sheets I don't know if the result is good for you (i think about the problem with the text label)

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Per discussione Gregory
The question with Eugene seems to be about mapping what is physically seen from outside rather than mapping the outside. Some people see some trees and paths so map it as a park. That is like seeing big fences and army guards and mapping it as military. If at the park you see a sign Welcome to

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Per discussione andrzej zaborowski
Hi, On 12 April 2010 08:32, Eugene Iline evge...@ily.in wrote: Moreover, in general it is often not possible to distinguish each object with a wall or fence around it even with a building with a plate control checkpoint or military unit # on it as an object owned by military, so the only

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Per discussione Dmitry Granovsky
Hi all, As far as I understand, there is a point that produces a lot of headache, namely that the same piece of data may be secret and at the same time clearly visible by anyone passing by. Say, the numbers of military bases turn out to be secret (http://tinyurl.com/yaddwqg), but at least some of

[OSM-talk] UK gov wastes millions on redundant cycle route planner

2010-04-12 Per discussione John Smith
On his personal website Mr Taylor explains how a free online cycle route planner has been available in Cambridge since the Cambridge Cycling Campaign Journey Planner was launched in 2006. This system then mutated into CycleStreets, a nationwide project, which provides users with suggestions for

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Per discussione Erik Johansson
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Dmitry Granovsky Another issue which surprises me immensely is that in Russia a lot of open (=not secret) data gathered together and structured may allegedly result in secret data. Could anyone from, say, Germany or UK comment on this? In Sweden you have to

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Per discussione M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/4/12 Dmitry Granovsky dima.granov...@gmail.com: Another issue which surprises me immensely is that in Russia a lot of open (=not secret) data gathered together and structured may allegedly result in secret data. Could anyone from, say, Germany or UK comment on this? For Germany this is

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Per discussione John Smith
On 13 April 2010 01:32, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/4/12 Dmitry Granovsky dima.granov...@gmail.com: Another issue which surprises me immensely is that in Russia a lot of open (=not secret) data gathered together and structured may allegedly result in secret data.

Re: [OSM-talk] UK gov wastes millions on redundant cycle route planner

2010-04-12 Per discussione Gregory
CycleStreets own comments on the amount spent: http://www.cyclestreets.net/blog/2010/04/08/foi-response-our-views/ On 12 April 2010 08:05, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On his personal website Mr Taylor explains how a free online cycle route planner has been available in

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Per discussione Komяpa
Hi, As was mentioned above, I'm not Russian citizen, I'm from Belarus, which has a lot stricter laws sometimes. This message represents my point of view, that may or may not be supported by other members. Most of the quotes are approximate, since initially they were badly grammatically

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Per discussione Kirill Bestoujev
2010/4/12 Komяpa m...@komzpa.net Second, a bit about Wikimapia. Wikimapia: 1) is a project that is hosted in Russia and by russian citizens One more lie: P address: 67.220.205.212 Host name: wikimapia.org Alias: wikimapia.org 67.220.205.212 is from United States(US) in region North America

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-de] OSM-Garmin-Karten bei Ebay

2010-04-12 Per discussione Felix Hartmann
On 12.04.2010 21:27, Martin Simon wrote: Am 12. April 2010 21:11 schrieb Felix Hartmannextremecar...@googlemail.com: Waeren es Karten von mir - also http://openmtbmap.org/ dann koennte man dagegen vorgehen, wenn openmtbmap.org nicht neben openstreetmap.org Contributors genannt wird.

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Per discussione Johann H. Addicks
military, but it is used/guarded by them. It would surprise me if there are no signs to tell you it is something to do by the military. There are nice echelon sites in germany which just have high fences and signs warning about high voltage. But plate stating something about military or use

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, Komяpa wrote: This message represents my point of view, that may or may not be supported by other members. Most of the quotes are approximate, since initially they were badly grammatically constructed and can't be directly translated to English. If I had totally misunderstod something,

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-de] OSM-Garmin-Karten bei Ebay

2010-04-12 Per discussione M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 12. April 2010 22:18 schrieb Felix Hartmann extremecar...@googlemail.com: Soweit ich das sehe, ist es eben auch prinzipiell so, dass jeder genannt werden muesste. Wenn ich also Werke / Datenbearbeitungen basierend auf OSM veroeffentliche, dann kann ich AFAIK sehr wohl verlangen, dass das

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Per discussione andrzej zaborowski
2010/4/12 Kirill Bestoujev bestou...@gmail.com: 2010/4/12 Komяpa m...@komzpa.net Second, a bit about Wikimapia. Wikimapia: 1) is a project that is hosted in Russia and by russian citizens One more lie: It's an out of date information but that doesn't change the fact that the Russian

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Per discussione Kirill Bestoujev
2010/4/13 andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com For the record I'm much more likely to trust Komzpa who's a long time contributor to the community than someone who thinks citizenship has any meaning at all in an argument. Komzpa is out of reach of Russian state authorities. Russian citizens

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Per discussione Peteris Krisjanis
2010/4/12 Kirill Bestoujev bestou...@gmail.com: 2010/4/13 andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com For the record I'm much more likely to trust Komzpa who's a long time contributor to the community than someone who thinks citizenship has any meaning at all in an argument. Komzpa is out of

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Per discussione Gregory
On 12 April 2010 13:21, Johann H. Addicks addi...@gmx.net wrote: military, but it is used/guarded by them. It would surprise me if there are no signs to tell you it is something to do by the military. There are nice echelon sites in germany which just have high fences and signs warning

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Per discussione Johann H. Addicks
Komzpa is out of reach of Russian state authorities. Russian citizens are not. That is the only thing I wanted to tell specifing that he is from Belorussia. Official german map providers have a very nice tagging for military areas and other not public areas owned by the gouvernment, they do

[OSM-talk] GSoC project idea

2010-04-12 Per discussione OJ W
just an idea... say you have a location, like a business or an event. You want to publish a printable map which tells people how to get there. Sure you could print an entire map of the area. But most of those roads would never be used by people visiting you - they don't go in right direction

Re: [OSM-talk] GSoC project idea

2010-04-12 Per discussione Iván Sánchez Ortega
On Monday 12 April 2010 23:46:30 OJ W wrote: Given a location x: For every point that's 30 miles away from that location: Route from that point to x Oooh, so you really want a spanning tree calculator. Algorithmically speaking, it pays up to calculate a spanning tree instead of

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Per discussione edodd
2010/4/13 andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com For the record I'm much more likely to trust Komzpa who's a long time contributor to the community than someone who thinks citizenship has any meaning at all in an argument. Komzpa is out of reach of Russian state authorities. Russian citizens

Re: [OSM-talk] GSoC project idea

2010-04-12 Per discussione Richard Weait
2010/4/12 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es: On Monday 12 April 2010 23:46:30 OJ W wrote:  Given a location x:   For every point that's 30 miles away from that location:     Route from that point to x Oooh, so you really want a spanning tree calculator. Algorithmically speaking, it

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Per discussione John Smith
On 13 April 2010 08:37, ed...@billiau.net wrote: 1. use a different tag which is not industrial. You don't need a wiki vote, you can just decide that in Russia these places are landuse=special (perhaps use a suitable russian word). It is important that this tag does not render. Then no

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] AND bos vs 3dshapes bos

2010-04-12 Per discussione Rob
Gewoon doen, AND is inderdaad een stuk onnauwkeuriger op dit gebied. Die bospaadjes map ik zo ook, en dan met source=3dshapes Je kunt die grondgebruik layer van 3dshapes ook in je editor hangen als ondergrond, mocht de import nog niet gedaan zijn. Groeten Rob Op 12 april 2010 10:26 schreef Frank

[OSM-talk-nl] 3dshapes voor 's-Hertogenbosch?

2010-04-12 Per discussione Andre Engels
Zou mijn woongemeente 's-Hertogenbosch binnenkort 3dshapes-data toegevoegd kunnen krijgen? Ik zou graag huisnummerdata willen gaan toevoegen, en een collega (als in collega-OSM-bewerker) is daar al mee begonnen, maar ik ben bang voor extra werk als ik dat nu eerst doe en daarna de 3dshapes-data

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] AND bos vs 3dshapes bos

2010-04-12 Per discussione Roeland Douma
Preices, gewoon doen! Let alleen wel even op eventuele namen etc dat je die overneemt voordat je de AND data weggooit! Groet, --Roeland On Monday 12 April 2010 10:39:37 Rob wrote: Gewoon doen, AND is inderdaad een stuk onnauwkeuriger op dit gebied. Die bospaadjes map ik zo ook, en dan met

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] 3dshapes voor 's-Hertogenbosch?

2010-04-12 Per discussione Lambertus
Ik zou wachten totdat de huizen geimporteerd zijn, dat maakt het écht een heel stuk makkelijker: Afdrukje maken op A4/zoomlevel 16 met WalkingPapers, potlood mee en lopen maar (of als de wijk vooral bestaat uit huizenblokken op de fiets). Gaat best snel zo is mijn ervaring. De terracer JOSM

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] 3dshapes voor 's-Hertogenbosch?

2010-04-12 Per discussione Roeland Douma
Heb je geen OSM flyers meer Lambertus? Kan je die meteen in de bus gooien :P Maar het is inderdaad een stuk makkelijker als de huizen erin zitten! Ldp kennende zal je verzoek wel gehonoreerd worden ;) Groet, --Roeland On Monday 12 April 2010 12:36:41 Lambertus wrote: Ik zou wachten totdat de

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] 3dshapes voor 's-Hertogenbosch?

2010-04-12 Per discussione Andre Engels
2010/4/12 Lambertus o...@na1400.info: Ik zou wachten totdat de huizen geimporteerd zijn, dat maakt het écht een heel stuk makkelijker: Afdrukje maken op A4/zoomlevel 16 met WalkingPapers, potlood mee en lopen maar (of als de wijk vooral bestaat uit huizenblokken op de fiets). Gaat best snel zo

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] AND bos vs 3dshapes bos

2010-04-12 Per discussione Lennard
On 12-4-2010 10:26, Frank Fesevur wrote: Ik wil dus de AND vlakken van dit gebied (handmatig) gaan weggooien maar zie ik redenen over het hoofd om dit niet te doen? Hier zijn we* in enkele andere regio's ook tegenaan gelopen. Wat daar uitgekomen is, is dat we het AND-vlak niet weggooien, maar

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] 3dshapes voor 's-Hertogenbosch?

2010-04-12 Per discussione Lennard
On 12-4-2010 10:54, Andre Engels wrote: Zou mijn woongemeente 's-Hertogenbosch binnenkort 3dshapes-data toegevoegd kunnen krijgen? Ik zou graag huisnummerdata willen gaan Mijn nadruk ligt op dit moment voornamelijk op de gebouwen, terwijl fsteggink bezig is met een methodiek om de

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] AND bos vs 3dshapes bos

2010-04-12 Per discussione Frank Steggink
Lennard wrote: On 12-4-2010 10:26, Frank Fesevur wrote: Ik wil dus de AND vlakken van dit gebied (handmatig) gaan weggooien maar zie ik redenen over het hoofd om dit niet te doen? Hier zijn we* in enkele andere regio's ook tegenaan gelopen. Wat daar uitgekomen is, is dat we het

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] 3dshapes voor 's-Hertogenbosch?

2010-04-12 Per discussione Frank Steggink
Lennard wrote: On 12-4-2010 10:54, Andre Engels wrote: Zou mijn woongemeente 's-Hertogenbosch binnenkort 3dshapes-data toegevoegd kunnen krijgen? Ik zou graag huisnummerdata willen gaan Mijn nadruk ligt op dit moment voornamelijk op de gebouwen, terwijl fsteggink bezig is met een

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] 3dshapes voor 's-Hertogenbosch?

2010-04-12 Per discussione Andre Engels
2010/4/12 Lennard l...@xs4all.nl: On 12-4-2010 10:54, Andre Engels wrote: Zou mijn woongemeente 's-Hertogenbosch binnenkort 3dshapes-data toegevoegd kunnen krijgen? Ik zou graag huisnummerdata willen gaan Mijn nadruk ligt op dit moment voornamelijk op de gebouwen, terwijl fsteggink bezig is

Re: [talk-au] Lonely Planet

2010-04-12 Per discussione edodd
On 12 April 2010 08:03, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry to be a party pooper, but do you think Lonely Planet would be okay with this kind of use of their publication? I doubt she'd be copying it verbatim, more likely she's using it like a street directory for route planning

Re: [talk-au] Tamworth, NSW

2010-04-12 Per discussione Ben Kelley
Hi. I said largely complete :) Partly I'm still adding streets because they keep building them. My mother-in-law jokes that they can build them faster than they can be mapped. Foot and bike paths are mostly absent. Slip lanes and one way streets are pretty good (basically there aren't many). No

[talk-au] UK gov wastes millions on redundant cycle route planner

2010-04-12 Per discussione John Smith
On his personal website Mr Taylor explains how a free online cycle route planner has been available in Cambridge since the Cambridge Cycling Campaign Journey Planner was launched in 2006. This system then mutated into CycleStreets, a nationwide project, which provides users with suggestions for

Re: [talk-au] What to do with fixme=not_reviewed

2010-04-12 Per discussione Ross Scanlon
And if I leave the tag how do I indicate to others that the location is OK? Ken source:location=survey -- Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] What to do with fixme=not_reviewed

2010-04-12 Per discussione John Smith
On 13 April 2010 11:30, Ken Self kens...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Is it enough to check the location of the node (easy) or should I leave the fixme tag until the address, phone number, fax number etc are also all verified (rather more difficult)? That tag is predominantly for location, it's

Re: [talk-au] What to do with fixme=not_reviewed

2010-04-12 Per discussione David Murn
On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 11:30 +1000, Ken Self wrote: I'm seeing loads of fixme=not-reviewed tags for bulk uploads of service stations, centrelink and police stations. Is it enough to check the location of the node (easy) or should I leave the fixme tag until the address, phone number, fax number

[talk-au] Revisiting Maleny, Qld

2010-04-12 Per discussione John Smith
I'd kind of forgotten about Maleny, some of you may have remembered it being mentioned it in the past when the Qld boundary data became available, here's a screen shot that was taken at the time: http://map-data.bigtincan.com/data/maleny.png The boundary data was surprisingly accurate it turns

[Talk-de] 5.Thüringer OSM Stammtisch in Erfur t

2010-04-12 Per discussione Holger s...@der
Hallo Liste, Herzliche Einladung zum 5. Thüringer OSM Stammtisch in Erfurt. Er findet am 14.04.2010 um 18.30 Uhr im Waldkasino http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.95794lon=11.02334zoom=16layers=0B00FTF , http://www.waldkasino.de/ statt. Ich habe einen Tisch auf den Namen Schrader reserviert.

Re: [Talk-de] Updatehäufigkeit ÖPNV-Karte

2010-04-12 Per discussione Fips Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, das kommt immer drauf an, wie der Ersteller - Melchior Moos - Zeit hat und ob es Probleme gibt, wenn es ein Update gab. Die Version steht immer unten unter der Karte (Man kann mit dem Scrollbalken nach unten scrollen, das übersieht man

Re: [Talk-de] D4 ebenfalls aufteilen?

2010-04-12 Per discussione Andre Joost
malenki schrieb: malenki schrieb: In meiner Ecke fand ich den D4 gefunden [, ...] Es wäre gut, diese Relation vor einem großen Crash in Einzelteile zu zerlegen. done Dann sei doch bitte so freundlich und ergänze in Zukunft auch die einschlägigen Wiki-Seiten entsprechend. Sonst kommt

Re: [Talk-de] D4 ebenfalls aufteilen?

2010-04-12 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Andre Joost wrote: Dann sei doch bitte so freundlich und ergänze in Zukunft auch die einschlägigen Wiki-Seiten entsprechend. Sonst kommt nämlich der nächste Aufschrei, warum die Relation von der Wiki-Seite nicht mehr erreichbar ist. Fuer einen solchen Aufschrei gibt es keinen Grund.

Re: [Talk-de] OSM auf WinCE-PNA

2010-04-12 Per discussione Markus
Nachtrag: OziExplorer CE klappt: erkennt auf COM7 ein GPS. Aber der OSM-Tracker nicht. Der stockt nach ein paar Sekunden scannen mal kurz - scannt dann aber weiter und findet nichts... Gruss, Markus ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Stats zum OSMI Routing View

2010-04-12 Per discussione Pascal Neis
Hi, Karl Eichwalder schrieb: In der Tabelle mit den Bundesländern und der Anzahl der Fehler bei nicht verbundener Straße hat es lediglich im Mittelfeld ein paar Platzverschiebungen gegeben. Die großen Bundesländer müssen da mal ein bisserl aktiver werden, oder? ;) Alles schön und gut --

Re: [Talk-de] FotoMapping

2010-04-12 Per discussione malenki
Michael Kugelmann schrieb: Markus schrieb: Ich versuche grad den Wiki-Artikel nachzuvollziehen: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Photo_mapping Dummer Frage: hast Du die Bilder selber georeferenziert (also die Koordinaten in das Bild/die Exif hineingeschrieben)? Oder hast Du nur den

Re: [Talk-de] Stats zum OSMI Routing View

2010-04-12 Per discussione Kai Krueger
On -10/01/37 20:59, Pascal Neis wrote: ... Ich würde mir für die kommenden Wochen wünschen, dass es nur noch Tage in der RoutingView-Statistik gibt, an denen die Fehleranzahl ab- und nicht zunimmt! :) Das waere wuenschenswert! Man sollte sich insofern vielleicht mal ueberlegen wieso

[Talk-de] surface=compacted

2010-04-12 Per discussione M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Habe mir aufgrund einer Tagging Diskussion heute mal wieder surface im Wiki angesehen und festgestellt, dass da Werte vorkommen, die nicht besonders logisch sind. Insbesondere compacted (dort habe ich der deutschen Übersetzung wassergebundene Fläche ein verdichtet nebenangestellt) fällt aus dem

Re: [Talk-de] surface=compacted

2010-04-12 Per discussione Birgit Nietsch
M?rtin Koppenhoefer schrieb: compacted=lockerste-Lagerung --- dichteste Lagerung als Abstufung z.B. gem. geltenden Normen. Zum Einstieg: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagerungsdichte Das meinst du jetzt aber nicht ernst, oder? ___ Talk-de mailing

Re: [Talk-de] surface=compacted

2010-04-12 Per discussione Bernd Wurst
Am Montag 12 April 2010 16:47:52 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: Insbesondere compacted (dort habe ich der deutschen Übersetzung wassergebundene Fläche ein verdichtet nebenangestellt) fällt aus dem Rahmen: ob und vor allem wie stark eine Fläche verdichtet ist, stellt m.E. eine orthogonale

[Talk-de] NACK Gemeindegrenzen Baden-Württember g für OpenStreetMap

2010-04-12 Per discussione Frank Sautter
Hallo zusammen, ich hatte vor einigen Tagen telefonisch beim Amt für Vermessung und Flurneuordnung des Landratsamtes Böblingen nach den Gemeindegrenzen für den Landkreis Böblingen angefragt, die mich sofort an das Landesamt für Geoinformation und Landentwicklung Baden-Württemberg verwiesen

Re: [Talk-de] NACK Gemeindegrenzen Baden-Württemberg f ür OpenStreetMap

2010-04-12 Per discussione Walter Nordmann
hi frank, das deckt sich total mit meinen Erfahrungen: spätesten wenn du auf Landesebene irgend was haben willst, ist Schluß. Dann sind die Landesämter dran und die mauern total. Geht doch mal an die Kreisverwaltungen ran; eventuell rücken die die Daten raus. (aber nix von der Abfuhr sagen)

Re: [Talk-de] surface=compacted

2010-04-12 Per discussione M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 12. April 2010 17:22 schrieb Bernd Wurst be...@bwurst.org: Ich denke damit ist das gemeint, was man zumindest hier bei den fast-so-gut- wie-asphaltiert-Waldwegen findet, nämlich nicht nur Schotter sondern mit diversen Split-Größen verdichteter Schotter, der insgesamt eine erstaunlich ebene

Re: [Talk-de] surface=compacted

2010-04-12 Per discussione M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 12. April 2010 17:22 schrieb Birgit Nietsch birgit-niet...@gmx.de: M?rtin Koppenhoefer schrieb: compacted=lockerste-Lagerung --- dichteste Lagerung als Abstufung z.B. gem. geltenden Normen. Zum Einstieg: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagerungsdichte Das meinst du jetzt aber nicht ernst,

Re: [Talk-de] NACK Gemeindegrenzen Baden-Württemberg f ür OpenStreetMap

2010-04-12 Per discussione M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 12. April 2010 17:23 schrieb Frank Sautter openstreet...@sautter.com: Hierbei ergäben sich zahlreiche Missbrauchstatbestände, z.B., dass ein Kartenausschnitt in einem kommerziellen Werk (z.B. einer Wanderkarte) veröffentlicht wird, ohne Lizenzgebühren an uns bezahlen zu müssen. [...]

Re: [Talk-de] NACK Gemeindegrenzen Baden-Württember g für OpenStreetMap

2010-04-12 Per discussione Markus
Hallo Frank, bei den Gemeinden bekommt man die Grenze recht unkompliziert. Und da die Gemeinden sich ja eine Grenze mit der Nachbargemeinde teilen, reicht es sogar, wenn nur jede zweite Gemeinde mitmacht :-) Gruss, Markus ___ Talk-de mailing list

Re: [Talk-de] NACK Gemeindegrenzen Baden-Württemberg für OpenStreetMap

2010-04-12 Per discussione Christian Schmitt
Am 12.04.2010 um 17:53 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: Am 12. April 2010 17:23 schrieb Frank Sautter openstreet...@sautter.com : Hierbei ergäben sich zahlreiche Missbrauchstatbestände, z.B., dass ein Kartenausschnitt in einem kommerziellen Werk (z.B. einer Wanderkarte) veröffentlicht wird,

Re: [Talk-de] NACK Gemeindegrenzen Baden-Württember g für OpenStreetMap

2010-04-12 Per discussione Björn Sieper
Hallo Markus, M Hallo Frank, M bei den Gemeinden bekommt man die Grenze recht unkompliziert. M Und da die Gemeinden sich ja eine Grenze mit der Nachbargemeinde teilen, M reicht es sogar, wenn nur jede zweite Gemeinde mitmacht :-) M Gruss, Markus M

Re: [Talk-de] NACK Gemeindegrenzen Baden-Württemberg f ür OpenStreetMap

2010-04-12 Per discussione Matthias Versen
Christian Schmitt wrote: Vor allem muss man sich mal vor Augen führen, dass diese Leute von unseren Steuergeldern bezahlt werden. Von dieser Warte aus betrachtet müssten amtliche Kartenwerke prinzipiell Allgemeingut sein. Aber so ist es halt: wir leben leider nur auf dem Papier in einer

Re: [Talk-de] OSM-Garmin-Karten bei Ebay

2010-04-12 Per discussione Philip Gillißen
Hallo Christian! Am Montag, den 12.04.2010, 19:14 +0200 schrieb Christian Hartnick: Haben wir dagegen eine rechtliche Handhabe und wenn ja wer? Warum sollten wir - die Frage ist, wie die Definition von wir ist - dagegen angehen und woher sollten wir den Anspruch haben? Die CC-BY-SA-Lizenz

Re: [Talk-de] OSM-Garmin-Karten bei Ebay

2010-04-12 Per discussione Bartosz Fabianowski
Unsere Lizenz ist CC-BY-SA Genau diesen Lizenzhinweis vermisse ich bei den Auktionen. IMHO sollte in den Auktionsbeschreibungen klar auf die Lizenz hingewiesen werden. Und den SD-Karten sollte dann jeweils ein Wisch beiliegen der nochmals auf die Lizenz hinweist. Ansonsten sehe ich keine

Re: [Talk-de] OSM-Garmin-Karten bei Ebay

2010-04-12 Per discussione bundesrainer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonas Krückel schrieb: Unsere Lizenz ist CC-BY-SA, also ist kommerzielles Verkaufen von den Daten klar erlaubt. Und wer dafür bereit ist Geld zu zahlen sieht offenbar den wirklichen Wert von OSM-Daten bzw. deren Aufbereitung. Firmen wie Geofabrik

Re: [Talk-de] OSM-Garmin-Karten bei Ebay

2010-04-12 Per discussione Chris66
Hi, ist erlaubt. Und da viele User mit dem Selberinstallieren überfordert sind, im Prinzip in Ordnung. Vielleicht hat er die Karte ja sogar selber gebaut. ;-) Chris ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] NACK Gemeindegrenzen Baden-Württemberg f ür OpenStreetMap

2010-04-12 Per discussione M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 12. April 2010 19:12 schrieb Christian Schmitt schmittr...@yahoo.de: Am 12.04.2010 um 17:53 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: Vor allem muss man sich mal vor Augen führen, dass diese Leute von unseren Steuergeldern bezahlt werden. Von dieser Warte aus betrachtet müssten amtliche Kartenwerke

Re: [Talk-de] OSM auf WinCE-PNA

2010-04-12 Per discussione Wolfgang Wienke
Hallo! Am 12.04.2010 11:24, schrieb Markus: Nachtrag: OziExplorer CE klappt: erkennt auf COM7 ein GPS. Aber der OSM-Tracker nicht. Der stockt nach ein paar Sekunden scannen mal kurz - scannt dann aber weiter und findet nichts... Gruss, Markus Wenn Du mit OziCE arbeitest kannst Du mit Taho

Re: [Talk-de] OSM-Garmin-Karten bei Ebay

2010-04-12 Per discussione bundesrainer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jochen Topf schrieb: Hier von kriminell zu reden diskqualifiziert Dich meines Erachtens, als Pressekontakt für OSM zu funktionieren. Du hast offenbar nichts verstanden. Ich habe Dich daher aus der entsprechenden Webseite rausgenommen. Ist

Re: [Talk-de] OSM-Garmin-Karten bei Ebay

2010-04-12 Per discussione andre
Hi, also da finden sich einige Anbieter. Man findet ein paar wenn man osm topo oder osm karte eintippt. [1] Ich persönlich finde es gut das soetwas angeboten wird. Damit muss sich nicht jeder in die umfangreiche Materie einlesen. Schön wäre das etwas von den Kohlen zurück zum Projekt fließen

Re: [Talk-de] NACK Gemeindegrenzen Baden-Württemberg für OpenStreetMap

2010-04-12 Per discussione Christian Schmitt
Am 12.04.2010 um 19:17 schrieb Matthias Versen: Christian Schmitt wrote: Vor allem muss man sich mal vor Augen führen, dass diese Leute von unseren Steuergeldern bezahlt werden. Von dieser Warte aus betrachtet müssten amtliche Kartenwerke prinzipiell Allgemeingut sein. Aber so ist es halt:

Re: [Talk-de] NACK Gemeindegrenzen Baden-Württemberg für OpenStreetMap

2010-04-12 Per discussione Christian Schmitt
Am 12.04.2010 um 19:45 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: Am 12. April 2010 19:12 schrieb Christian Schmitt schmittr...@yahoo.de : Am 12.04.2010 um 17:53 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: Vor allem muss man sich mal vor Augen führen, dass diese Leute von unseren Steuergeldern bezahlt werden. Von

Re: [Talk-de] OSM-Garmin-Karten bei Ebay

2010-04-12 Per discussione Christian Hartnick
Jochen Topf schrieb: Hier von kriminell zu reden diskqualifiziert Dich meines Erachtens, als Pressekontakt für OSM zu funktionieren. Du hast offenbar nichts verstanden. Ich habe Dich daher aus der entsprechenden Webseite rausgenommen. Danke Jochen, so macht es Spaß jeden Tag mehrere Anrufe

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