Re: Unix MBX format exports non-standard?

2005-08-18 Thread Allister Jenks
Another list member has helped me solve this problem. It appears that TB! saves the file in "Unix format", which I believe refers to the linefeeds used. By using TextPad and resaving in "PC format" (thus altering the linefeeds) the file exports perfectly with the GMail Loader. Thanks Jacob, for

Re: Unix MBX format exports non-standard?

2005-08-13 Thread Allister Jenks
Thursday, August 11, 2005, 10:44:47 PM, Robin wrote: RA> For emails without attachments, the Unix mailbox format should look RA> pretty much like what you see with "View Source", except that there RA> should be an additional line at the very beginning that starts with RA> "From " with NO colon fol

Unix MBX format exports non-standard?

2005-08-11 Thread Allister Jenks
Hello TBUDLers, I've been trying to transfer some of my mail to GMail using GML (GMail Loader). Having selected THREE messages in a TB! folder and selected "Save as..." and specified a Unix MBX format, I then point the GML at this file and here's what I get. --8<-- 1 Forwarded a

Re: Ancient bug finally revealed!

2005-06-25 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, June 25, 2005, 7:50:18 PM, Roelof wrote: RO> You don't have to install TB again. RO> TB's registry entries are created by executing the program, so it RO> suffices to run TB after you've deleted its entries from the registry. Ah! Another snippet. See, when I was first trying to solve

Re: Ancient bug finally revealed!

2005-06-25 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, June 25, 2005, 9:50:28 PM, Alexander wrote: ASK> Given your criteria, no program is multiuser aware, because they all use ASK> their own set of settings for each user that logs on (IE, OE, Outlook, ASK> Opera, Firefox are all perfectly multi-user aware, and they are not when ASK> you loo

Re: Ancient bug finally revealed!

2005-06-24 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, June 25, 2005, 4:32:42 AM, Alexander wrote: >> what does TB! do if you *do* install it under separate Windows users? ASK> Ehhh? How do you install a program twice? I take it you know the literal answer to your question but are wondering why one would do it. Further back in this thread

Re: Ancient bug finally revealed!

2005-06-23 Thread Allister Jenks
Friday, June 24, 2005, 6:38:09 PM, I wrote: AJ> Perhaps TB! is not to blame but that old standby 'documentation'. Given AJ> there are no instructions on how to access from multiple Windows AJ> accounts, and the default advice on TBUDL is 'copy the registry AJ> entries', then the default configura

Re: Ancient bug finally revealed!

2005-06-23 Thread Allister Jenks
Thursday, June 23, 2005, 8:03:21 PM, Roelof wrote: RO> Apparently, you're the only one using your computer. What when you're RO> using it with multiple people ech with their own preferences? No, I'm not. But I take your point. AJ>> After all, if I set up a new email AJ>> account, or create colo

Re: Ancient bug finally revealed!

2005-06-23 Thread Allister Jenks
Friday, June 24, 2005, 4:27:57 PM, Jonathan wrote: JA> Am I right in assuming you have your mail directory stored under JA> TheBat! application directory (for example c:\Program Files\TheBat!\)? Nope. On a separate drive where I keep most of my data. JA> If that is the case, then the reason you

Re: Ancient bug finally revealed!

2005-06-23 Thread Allister Jenks
Thursday, June 23, 2005, 3:33:58 AM, Alexander wrote: >> Personally, I've never understood the fascination Windows software has >> with the Registry. What on earth is wrong with properties files? If >> you give the user a choice where to store them, then proper backups are >> a breeze and multi-

Re: Ancient bug finally revealed!

2005-06-23 Thread Allister Jenks
Wednesday, June 22, 2005, 10:38:11 PM, Allie wrote: >> Given that TB! is clearly a multi-user application, wouldn't it be a >> good idea for them to support Windows' capability? AM> Well, it does. I get the feeling that you want what happens to TB!'s AM> configuration when logged into XP as user

Re: Ancient bug finally revealed!

2005-06-23 Thread Allister Jenks
Thursday, June 23, 2005, 5:32:21 AM, Allie wrote: AM> The large apps will likely need a centralized system of configuration. Why? Take a look at J2EE. It has bucket loads of configuration and it is all done in properties files. Sure they are scattered a bit, but 'centralised' does not mean you

Re: Ancient bug finally revealed!

2005-06-22 Thread Allister Jenks
Wednesday, June 22, 2005, 8:47:31 PM, Jeff wrote: >> Personally, I've never understood the fascination Windows software has >> with the Registry. What on earth is wrong with properties files? If >> you give the user a choice where to store them, then proper backups are >> a breeze and multi-user

Re: Ancient bug finally revealed!

2005-06-21 Thread Allister Jenks
Tuesday, June 21, 2005, 10:13:20 PM, Allie wrote: >> When logging on as a TB! group, accounts which are in the group but >> not in registry under "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Users >> Depot" are removed from the group. This is a permanent removal. AM> By 'permanent removal', do you me

Ancient bug finally revealed!

2005-06-21 Thread Allister Jenks
Hello TBUDLers, I've had a few bitches and moans on here about my Number One Bug (apologies to Stephen King, but some days I just imagine Kathy Bates in my PC causing this mayhem with a sledgehammer). It's the one where my TB! groups keep losing accounts (and I keep losing hairs). Well, tonight

Re: Access to The Bat! (User account with limited rights, Windows XP Home)

2005-06-06 Thread Allister Jenks
Tuesday, June 7, 2005, 5:48:49 AM, Christian wrote: CF> I do not manage to run The Bat! as "User A" (Shortcut on Windows CF> Desctop exists). Every attempt ends up with this report: CF> Error during setup of working directory CF> C:\Documents...\Application data\All users\The Bat! Have you copied

Re: Is it worth upgrading to v3.5.25?

2005-06-03 Thread Allister Jenks
Friday, June 3, 2005, 8:12:22 PM, Robin wrote: RA> Now that v3.5.25 has been released, can anyone volunteer an opinion RA> about whether it is worth upgrading from v3.0.1.33? Are there any RA> significant bugs, issues or other annoyances still left in it? Well, it has fixed my Access Violation p

Re: Version 3.5 major bug!

2005-05-20 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, May 21, 2005, 1:16:08 AM, Stuart wrote: AJ>> Yes, that was me (aka ZKARJ). The other bug is #: SC> ^ SC>Maybe they thought with this name you were from another SC>planet. :) AJ>> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=2094

Re: Version 3.5 major bug!

2005-05-19 Thread Allister Jenks
Friday, May 20, 2005, 12:41:30 AM, Stuart wrote: SC> Sometimes persistence pays off. ;) Did you report the bugs on SC> BugTrack? What is the other bug you have? Yes, that was me (aka ZKARJ). The other bug is #2094: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=2094 It's over a year old. The bug repo

Re: Version 3.5 major bug!

2005-05-19 Thread Allister Jenks
Thursday, May 19, 2005, 12:23:12 PM, Andrew wrote: AC> I'm afraid I've been guilty of changing the subject of a thread by AC> bringing this up in my original post, for which I apologise; I'm AC> rather a beginner in these things. Am I allowed to revert to the AC> original question raised by Allist

Re: Version 3.5 major bug!

2005-05-14 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, May 14, 2005, 8:01:28 PM, Alexander wrote: ASK> Hello Allister Jenks & everyone else, ASK> on 14-Mai-2005 at 09:08 you (Allister Jenks) wrote: >> If I log on as anything other than an administrator account I cannot >> create new emails. This includes reply a

Version 3.5 major bug!

2005-05-14 Thread Allister Jenks
Hello TBUDLers, Reported as #4639 ( https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4639 ). If I log on as anything other than an administrator account I cannot create new emails. This includes reply and forwarding. This is pretty serious! (Marck, Windows won't let TB! function properly. ;-) ) I d

Re: Threading

2005-05-13 Thread Allister Jenks
Friday, May 13, 2005, 10:51:10 PM, Marck wrote: AJ>> Surely, unless one has a large number of folders to filter out to, AJ>> then any of those target folders is also going to be relatively AJ>> high traffic? MDP> No folder is as "high traffic" as the inbox. None. every incoming MDP> message pause

Re: Threading

2005-05-13 Thread Allister Jenks
Friday, May 13, 2005, 9:18:44 PM, Marck wrote: MDP> Add a simple outbound mail filter to move sent mail straight to the MDP> Inbox. But here, I have to step into soapbox mode. It's not wise to MDP> use the inbox as a main storage folder - it is high traffic. I keep MDP> mine empty. Once you have a

Re: Alter/remove headers in received mail?

2005-05-12 Thread Allister Jenks
Thursday, May 12, 2005, 7:37:28 PM, Robin wrote: RA> On Thu 12 May 2005, 17:00:22 +1000, Allister Jenks wrote: >> How can I modify a received email's headers? RA> I use a manual filter that writes the email to a file in unix mailbox RA> format, opens my text editor and

Alter/remove headers in received mail?

2005-05-12 Thread Allister Jenks
Hello TBUDLers, I have PopFile marking my spam with a header which I then catch with a TB! filter and send the way of the trash. On the odd occasion where PopFile gives a false positive I simply drag the email back to the inbox. However, recently I wrote a new filter and while re-filtering the i

Re: Filtering issue

2005-05-06 Thread Allister Jenks
Friday, May 6, 2005, 6:58:42 PM, Allister wrote: AJ> Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 6:41:56 AM, MAU wrote: M>> You are using a beta version, you should post this in the TBBeta list. AJ> See my response to MikeD - I strongly suspect this could well be a AJ> production problem! AJ> Mine is 3.01.13. Oh,

Re: Filtering issue

2005-05-06 Thread Allister Jenks
Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 3:55:16 AM, MikeD wrote: M3> One of the spam messages ended up in my "known" folder and I checked M3> my address book three times to be sure and neither the From nor the M3> To address appear in my address book. I've not seen that problem, but I do have a very similar one

Re: Was I dreaming...?

2005-05-06 Thread Allister Jenks
Thursday, May 5, 2005, 9:54:59 PM, Thomas wrote: AJ>> Thank goodness for that. Thunderbird is installed and in partial use AJ>> already. I updated bug 2094 (yes, it is that old) in the hopes it will AJ>> receive some attention. I'm not holding my breath. Status after 17 AJ>> months is "reviewe

Re: Filtering issue

2005-05-05 Thread Allister Jenks
Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 6:41:56 AM, MAU wrote: M> You are using a beta version, you should post this in the TBBeta list. See my response to MikeD - I strongly suspect this could well be a production problem! Mine is 3.01.13. -- Cheers, Allister :flag-newzealand: New Zealand / Aotearoa _

Re: Was I dreaming...?

2005-05-04 Thread Allister Jenks
Monday, May 2, 2005, 7:12:20 AM, Marek wrote: MM> new version 3.5 with major changes in GUI will be released in May, we MM> have first Release Candidate actually. Thank goodness for that. Thunderbird is installed and in partial use already. I updated bug 2094 (yes, it is that old) in the hopes

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-04 Thread Allister Jenks
Monday, April 4, 2005, 2:12:15 PM, Paul wrote: PB> Have you asked the List about grouping? The list has helped me over PB> the years. Oh, yes! I had a gripe quite recently and many tried to help, but to no avail. -- Cheers, Allister :flag-newzealand: New Zealand / Aotearoa _

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-02 Thread Allister Jenks
Sunday, April 3, 2005, 10:57:11 AM, Alexander wrote: ASK> This perhaps leads to a meta discussion about the different types and ASK> motivations of free software, and it was not my intention to lead the ASK> discussion into that direction. Sheesh! All I did was recommend AVG on the basis that it

Re: Changes to the TB Lists

2005-04-01 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, April 2, 2005, 3:19:27 AM, Leif wrote: LG> From today forward, to remain a subscriber to our realm of goodness on LG> the TB lists, it'll cost you $5,000 per month. Note the quoted time and date! Due to the fact that I live on the "leading edge" of the world, I am now subject to a dast

Re: Anti Virus S/W

2005-04-01 Thread Allister Jenks
Friday, April 1, 2005, 10:05:22 PM, Jeff wrote: JG> Has anybody any recommendations for an effective A/V product that will JG> work unobtrusively in the background and check my incoming email? I recommend AVG. The best part is it is free! I've used it for years now with zero issues and it integ

Re: Good grief! The bug STILL exists

2005-03-10 Thread Allister Jenks
Thursday, March 10, 2005, 9:14:39 PM, MAU wrote: M> Hello Allister, >> Yes, it worked. M> Glad to hear that :-) So you'll be "unglad" to hear that today it has reverted to losing that last account again!!! I cannot fathom how it picked which account to ignore unless it is something to do with

Re: Good grief! The bug STILL exists

2005-03-09 Thread Allister Jenks
Wednesday, March 9, 2005, 11:20:22 PM, MAU wrote: M> Why don't you try something? First, backup all your TB data (mail M> directory. Then move your "groups.cfg" file top a different directory M> and start TB to see what happens. Inspired! Well, if I had put my own thinking cap on I *might* have

Re: Good grief! The bug STILL exists

2005-03-08 Thread Allister Jenks
Wednesday, March 9, 2005, 1:36:36 PM, MFPA wrote: M> After re-installing TB!, as long as I do not re-create the account M> I put into a group I am not locked out of the other accounts. As M> soon as I do, I have to enter a username to get into TB! and can M> only access that one account. This happ

Re: Good grief! The bug STILL exists

2005-03-08 Thread Allister Jenks
Wednesday, March 9, 2005, 2:08:09 AM, Gerard wrote: G> Wel this sounds like the data isn't written to file. G> But one question, how did you get you other email accounts in there? I wish I knew! Truth be told, I think it only became an issue once I got past about 6 accounts. From memory, one ti

Re: Good grief! The bug STILL exists

2005-03-08 Thread Allister Jenks
Tuesday, March 8, 2005, 8:48:56 AM, Robin wrote: RA> I'm not sure what you mean by "add the account to the group". If I did I RA> would try to reproduce your problem. Also to MFPA. I mean, sign on to TB! as an administrator and select "Options" and then "Network and Administration". On the grou

Good grief! The bug STILL exists

2005-03-06 Thread Allister Jenks
Hello TBUDLers, For the first time in ages, I added a new email account to TB! (I am changing ISPs). Blow me down if that old group bug isn't still there in version 3.0.1.33. I add the account to the group and all works fine - until I log off. Then it disappears. Between this and vapourware (V

Re: TB voyager : mobile solution...

2005-02-21 Thread Allister Jenks
Tuesday, February 22, 2005, 1:48:05 AM, Mica wrote: >> That's why God (or at least the fellows at Apple) invented the iPod. >> :-) MM> What's that, actually? Essentially, a hard-disk based portable audio player. It's something of a phenomenon lately... http://www.apple.com/ipod/ -- Cheers,

Re: TB voyager : mobile solution...

2005-02-20 Thread Allister Jenks
Monday, February 21, 2005, 6:35:25 AM, Alexander wrote: ASK> Flash memory is said to hold for about 100,000 write operations before it ASK> will start to fail. Depending on the number of mails you get & store on the ASK> stick, the flash memory will wear out pretty soon... That's why God (or at l

Re: Bat Voyager

2005-02-18 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, February 19, 2005, 8:53:01 AM, Marten wrote: >> Not the first time I did not receive an announcement email from >> RitLabs. MG> I must have got yours then - I got it twice! Same here, but that has been normal for recent emails from RIT. Best vapourware I've seen in ages. -- Cheers,

Re: hard code percent sign (i.e. %) in QT?

2004-10-26 Thread Allister Jenks
Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 5:09:35 PM, Greg wrote: GS> Anyway to hard code a percent sign (i.e. %) so it actually shows up in a GS> message derived from a quick template? Don't know for fact, but often something like %% should work. I.e. double-up the 'escape' character (% in this case). --

Re: The Bat! 3.01 Automatically Registered itself?

2004-10-15 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, October 16, 2004, 2:49:38 PM, Bob wrote: BM> I finally took the plunge and downloaded version 3.0.1.33 the other BM> day and paid my registration via CIFNET. My registration e-mail BM> arrived this morning and I viewed in from the Ticker. Immediately BM> after I got a pop-up window tha

Re: OT Time stamps [was Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Save decrypted PGP messages?)]

2004-10-15 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, October 16, 2004, 3:08:35 PM, Mary wrote: MB>>> I know you are on a large continent, also. AJ>> Umm. Nope. One timezone. MB> Well, but with the entire Pacific on either side. ;) Actually wrong again! (Sorry!) Pacific to the North, East and South, but the Tasman Sea to the West

Re: OT Time stamps [was Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Save decrypted PGP messages?)]

2004-10-15 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, October 16, 2004, 4:04:21 PM, Maria wrote: SC>> Wouldn't this be +1200, or are you on Daylight Saving Time. :) MCR> Yep, until the last Saturday of October. Than, it's back to GMT. That would be a very short period for daylight savings. It ends on the third Sunday in March and then g

Re: OT Time stamps [was Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Save decrypted PGP messages?)]

2004-10-15 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, October 16, 2004, 3:43:12 PM, Stuart wrote: MCR>> On 16 October 2004 at 14:52:03GMT +1300 (which was 02:52 where I live) SC> Wouldn't this be +1200, or are you on Daylight Saving Time. :) The standard time is indeed +1200. We started daylight saving on the first Sunday in October.

Re: OT Time stamps [was Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Save decrypted PGP messages?)]

2004-10-15 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, October 16, 2004, 3:28:59 PM, Maria wrote: MCR> NZ is the antipodes of Lisbon, where I live. How does it feel living MCR> upside down? :) .smelborp yna deciton t'nevah I Seriously though - if gravity weren't stronger than the centrifugal force, nobody would be right-side-up anyway! --

Re: OT Time stamps [was Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Save decrypted PGP messages?)]

2004-10-15 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, October 16, 2004, 12:17:37 PM, Mary wrote: MB> I know you are on a large continent, also. Umm. Nope. One timezone. http://www.tourism.org.nz/ You weren't thinking of Australia were you? -- Cheers, Allister :flag-newzealand: New Zealand / Aotearoa ___

Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Save decrypted PGP messages?)

2004-10-15 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, October 9, 2004, 1:12:44 AM, Mica wrote: MM> Btw, is good to have local time also quoted, altho just a remark about MM> time zone(s) helps enough too. I've been absent from the list for a while and have just taken the time to read some posts - this being the first. I have to agree with

Re: I love BayesIT!

2004-09-06 Thread Allister Jenks
Tuesday, September 7, 2004, 12:56:34 PM, Michael wrote: MLW> No Bayes based filter will ever be 100% perfect. I believe, however, MLW> that BayesIT is a very good implementation of the Bayes calculations. It is such a shame, then, that it stuffs up many peoples' systems, including mine. If anyo

Summary of v3?

2004-09-04 Thread Allister Jenks
Hello TBUDLers, Having tired of reading the many-and-rambling threads on v3, would somebody who has had the time please summarise: 1) The issues/bugs 2) Any info from RIT about licensing issues I know many TBUDLers are unhappy with the affair (and some aren't), but has there been *any* response

Re: What is a natural email system?

2004-09-04 Thread Allister Jenks
Sunday, September 5, 2004, 11:23:42 AM, Michael wrote: MLW> What makes The Bat a natural email system. Can someone please explain MLW> what this phrase means and why it is attached to The Bat? If you've used Outlook 2000, you will know it is decidely unnatural to use. TB! isn't. -- Cheers, A

Re: What defines a mailto?

2004-08-26 Thread Allister Jenks
Thursday, August 26, 2004, 7:48:26 PM, Maurice wrote: MS> Well, in all actuality, it isn't a 'mailto:' considering the string MS> 'mailto:' isn't part of it. Granted. But if I write... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...without specifying "mailto:"; at the front, TB! realises it is an email address and high

What defines a mailto?

2004-08-26 Thread Allister Jenks
Hello TBUDLers, Any idea why TB! does not recognise the following as a mailto: ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've changed the 1's and the alphabet part to disguise the real address (it's a mailing list confirmation). The = sign seems to replace the @ in my address, and may be the problem? -- Cheers, A

Re: Frayed threads?

2004-07-24 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, July 24, 2004, 12:06:11 AM, Allie wrote: AM> Allister Jenks, [AJ] wrote: >> Oops! Sorry. Looks like a template to fix! AM> Bitten by the To: macro? :) AM> It's a lot better to create templates for the lists using address book AM> templates. Give the list addr

Re: Frayed threads?

2004-07-23 Thread Allister Jenks
Friday, July 23, 2004, 7:21:32 PM, Allister wrote: AJ> Hello TBOTers... Oops! Sorry. Looks like a template to fix! :confused: -- Cheers, Allister Current version is 2.12.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUD

Frayed threads?

2004-07-23 Thread Allister Jenks
Hello TBOTers, I know this isn't TBUDL, but it seems that threads are changing spots rather often. Specifically, my "Strange Ills for XP" thread is now discussing at least three topics (yes, ok, I started one of them maybe). Also the "Proposed TB! Help" thread Mary moved here has gone the same w

Re: The Bat! Help files

2004-07-13 Thread Allister Jenks
Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 6:58:18 PM, Roelof wrote: RO> Hallo Allister, RO> On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:36:08 +1200GMT (13-7-2004, 8:36 +0200, where I RO> live), you wrote: AJ>> Perhaps the tag-line should change slightly. Replace 'natural' with AJ>> 'masochistic'. RO> You've lost me here. At the he

Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files

2004-07-12 Thread Allister Jenks
Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 1:41:36 AM, Mary wrote (amongst other stuff): MB> I got The Bat! for its safety. Retired, with plenty of time, and MB> somewhat paranoid, I look at each message separately on the Dispatcher MB> and decide there whether to delete or download. Perhaps a little too paranoid i

Re: The Bat! Help files

2004-07-12 Thread Allister Jenks
Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 4:36:47 AM, Roelof wrote (amongst other stuff): RO> Though I certainly wouldn't say that TB is the best documented program RO> ever, I certainly can't blame RitLabs too much for the online help. Who else is going to provide it? Or are there people on this list that know t

Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]

2004-07-11 Thread Allister Jenks
Monday, July 12, 2004, 12:06:58 PM, Mary wrote (amongst other stuff): MB> In defense of RitLabs: the improvements that are being made in The MB> Bat! are coming along so rapidly that any Help file would soon be MB> obsolete. I consider that I am running an obsolete version, and I have MB> the late

Re: Table formatting

2004-07-04 Thread Allister Jenks
Monday, July 5, 2004, 2:37:41 AM, Kevin wrote: KA> I understand what you are saying. My only point was that (1)TB is not KA> designed to be a graphic HTML editor. It has some basic tools and that KA> is it. (2) For fancier work, an external (not just MS Office KA> components) program will be neces

Re: Table formatting

2004-07-03 Thread Allister Jenks
Sunday, July 4, 2004, 10:33:11 AM, Kevin wrote: KA> The original poster was working with HTML anyway. At that point there KA> is no harm using an external application to copy a table in-line. Tens KA> of millions of people use it this way (including myself) without KA> difficulty. KA> What exactl

Re: Table formatting

2004-07-03 Thread Allister Jenks
Sunday, July 4, 2004, 4:19:03 AM, Kevin wrote: >> How can one change either the color of the table borders or the style >> (a single line instead of a double line). KA> you'll have to import something you created with another application KA> (i.e. Excel, Word, etc.) Ouch! That could be adding fu

Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources - Solved!

2004-06-11 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, June 12, 2004, 3:21:08 AM, rich wrote: >>> Woho! Not only is it not hogging CPU, but it is running >>> *really* fast. Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou, thankyou, thankyou! rg> Was that "Process Explorer" product the one that pulled you out of the rg> fire? I guess it pretty much wa

Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources - Solved!

2004-06-10 Thread Allister Jenks
Thursday, June 10, 2004, 10:43:07 PM, Allie wrote: AM> The Bayesit plugin directory should be in the TB! installation AM> directory. Have you tried moving that directory to another location AM> after exiting TB! and then restarting TB!? Woho! Not only is it not hogging CPU, but it is run

Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources

2004-06-09 Thread Allister Jenks
Thursday, June 10, 2004, 6:18:38 PM, Allister wrote: AJ> Thursday, June 10, 2004, 4:31:54 AM, Thomas wrote: TF>> Hello Allister, TF>> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 19:32:37 +1200 GMT (07/06/2004, 14:32 +0700 GMT), TF>> Allister Jenks wrote: AJ>>> Done. Problem remains. :-(

Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources

2004-06-09 Thread Allister Jenks
Thursday, June 10, 2004, 4:31:54 AM, Thomas wrote: TF> Hello Allister, TF> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 19:32:37 +1200 GMT (07/06/2004, 14:32 +0700 GMT), TF> Allister Jenks wrote: AJ>> Done. Problem remains. :-( TF> Too bad. Does it happen only when purging&compressing on exit, o

Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources

2004-06-07 Thread Allister Jenks
Sunday, June 6, 2004, 3:42:55 PM, Thomas wrote: AM>>> - a mailbase that is problematic will have TB! spending an AM>>> inordinately long time with it. AJ>> This is my current favourite. Despite my comments above, I originally AJ>> suspected the account I subsequently repaired. Maybe TB! is doin

Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources

2004-06-05 Thread Allister Jenks
First of all, Thomas, Rich, Allie, Simon, thanks for the useful feedback. There are a few things I can look at now. This is precisely my beef with the Bug report - no feedback of any kind. Sunday, June 6, 2004, 3:55:48 AM, Allie wrote: AM> Interesting. I've never really ever had a problem with

Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources

2004-06-05 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, June 5, 2004, 9:49:36 AM, Allister wrote: AJ> Saturday, June 5, 2004, 5:06:56 AM, Simon wrote: SM>> ...the CPU usage goes to 100%... SM>> ...and I have to kill TheBat from the Windows task manager. AJ> OK, attention all! How many times has this basic symptom been reported AJ> now? I

Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?

2004-06-05 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, June 5, 2004, 10:50:29 AM, Martin wrote (in part): AJ>> Yes, but the inclusion of these features has diverted resource from more AJ>> functional and useful features, and from bug elimination. MW> For instance, the new emoticon feature was put together some weeks MW> ago "for personal us

Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?

2004-06-04 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, June 5, 2004, 7:32:13 AM, Mark wrote: MP> Besides, you can disable both features completely if you wish. And MP> it isn't hard to do so. Yes, but the inclusion of these features has diverted resource from more functional and useful features, and from bug elimination. -- Cheers, Allis

Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources

2004-06-04 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, June 5, 2004, 5:06:56 AM, Simon wrote: SM> ...the CPU usage goes to 100%... SM> ...and I have to kill TheBat from the Windows task manager. OK, attention all! How many times has this basic symptom been reported now? I had a bit of a rant on here recently about getting my bug report l

Re: Emoticons in upcoming new TB! version [was Re: Leif's h2g2 smilies for new TB!...]

2004-05-29 Thread Allister Jenks
Sunday, May 30, 2004, 2:17:43 AM, Martin wrote: MW> Since I'm on a promise from Leif MW> I thought I'd risk making MW> the point that the off-topic part of this thread was just 3 messages... Yes, the *first* three. And now Paul's makes 4. So, to send this thread complete

Re: Emoticons in upcoming new TB! version [was Re: Leif's h2g2 smilies for new TB!...]

2004-05-28 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, May 29, 2004, 5:07:59 PM, Thomas wrote: TF> No, that only mean it is appropriate for TBBETA and not for TBUDL. TF> After the release it will be appropriate here. Saved me saying it myself, thanks. I am not trying to leap all over people for this, but given the usual veracity of moderat

Re: Leif's h2g2 smilies for new TB! version

2004-05-28 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, May 29, 2004, 6:14:12 AM, Mary wrote: Surely this thread is: 1) OT 2) Beta related 3) A personal chit-chat referring to others of same ilk 4) Making some people wonder "What the hell are they talking about?" and therefore 5) Not appropriate for this list 6) Inappropriate for a moder

Re: Bug pressure?

2004-05-28 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, May 29, 2004, 3:54:38 AM, michael wrote: > I have been in Software QA for over 25 years. I just want to say that > a "bug" like you posted looks a great deal like a problem with your > computer. I totally agree that's what it could be. My point was that pretty much nothing had been sai

Bug pressure?

2004-05-27 Thread Allister Jenks
Hello TBUDLers, What does it take to get a bug looked at lately? I posted this bug https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002755 on March 31st and, apart from a 'similar to' and a 'still happening?' bugnote, there has been no communication that it is even being looked at

Re: Opening url with non-default browser

2004-05-17 Thread Allister Jenks
Monday, May 17, 2004, 10:19:09 AM, Martin wrote: MW>>> You forgot to mention the version of Windows you use... C>> Windows XP, Home Edition MW> In that case, you can create your own profile and change the default MW> applications for mail and Web browsing. Right click on the Start button MW> and

Re: anybody PLEASE

2004-05-08 Thread Allister Jenks
Thursday, May 6, 2004, 1:51:40 AM, Manfred wrote: ME> That's what I guessed. Strange thing is: when I display the same ME> message say in Becky I can read it perfectly, the same like seeing the ME> html part in IE itself. Only TheBAt uses the tiny fonts. ME> Normally these messages are from OE or

Backup/Restore for suspected corrupt account

2004-04-20 Thread Allister Jenks
Hello TBUDLers, Not so long ago (as I remember it) there was a discussion about recovering a corrupted mail account by means of renames and restores but I cannot, for the life of me, locate it in the archives. I have an account (my oldest one) which had been playing up on compresses and the like

Re: Ver 2.10 Unread Tab

2004-04-17 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, April 17, 2004, 7:49:50 PM, I wrote: AJ> From the 'Changes' doc that shows during install: AJ> Folder set tabs for viewing limited sets of AJ> folders like folders with unread messages, AJ> Virtual Folders and folders associated with a AJ> particular Colour Group ...however, I

Re: Ver 2.10 Unread Tab

2004-04-17 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, April 17, 2004, 2:56:55 PM, Munango-Keewati wrote: MK> Could someone explain to me the purpose of the Unread tab if all MK> messages--read, unread, parked, etc--are still displayed in the right MK> panel when that tab is selected? One would expect to see only unread MK> messages display

Re: POPFile (was Re:Bayesit plugin and filters executing order)

2004-04-09 Thread Allister Jenks
Wednesday, April 7, 2004, 11:41:56 PM, Adam wrote: AC> Now all I've got to do is find a way of getting TB to automatically AC> mark quarantined messages as Read. I was just thinking about this one - I personally think it is good they are left unread as it provides a visual prompt to empty the fol

Re: POPFile (was Re:Bayesit plugin and filters executing order)

2004-04-08 Thread Allister Jenks
Wednesday, April 7, 2004, 11:41:56 PM, Adam wrote: AC> I've simply turned off "Confirmation" and "Ask What to Do Next" in the AC> AVG Control Centre and virus laden emails are quietly sent to the AC> quarantine folder without bothering me at all. AC> Now all I've got to do is find a way of gettin

POPFile (was Re:Bayesit plugin and filters executing order)

2004-04-06 Thread Allister Jenks
Wednesday, April 7, 2004, 10:44:29 AM, dAniel wrote: dh> I for myself use POPFile, which uses the same approach (Bayesian), but dh> is a lot more useful, as it can have as many "buckets" as you want. Eg, dh> I have "spam", "english", "german", "admin" and "PGP". dh> Accuracy is 99.62% for 28293 ma

Re: Lotus Notes

2004-03-23 Thread Allister Jenks
Wednesday, March 24, 2004, 7:33:13 PM, Shahar wrote: >> Does anyone know of a way to import Lotus Notes .nsf (ver 4.5) files into >> TheBat or outlook so I can use the outlook import? S> Can it be done through a CSV ot TXT file ? S> What file formats Lotus can export to ? Good luck with that! I

TB! not ending?

2004-03-07 Thread Allister Jenks
Hello TBUDLers, I seem to have a new problem since installing 2.04.7 in that TB! appears to shut down when asked (the windows and system tray icon disappear), but I discovered that the task (thebat.exe) is still running and consuming a huge chunk of CPU. Anyone else getting this problem or is it

Re: Known filter special?

2004-03-01 Thread Allister Jenks
Monday, March 1, 2004, 1:22:12 PM, Urban wrote: U> Sunday, February 29, 2004, Allister Jenks wrote: >> Alas, this does not seem to be possible? U> Play on sound on incoming mail in the folder that $known$ filters to and U> set the $known$ filter to continue processing. Thanks Ur

Re: Filter as Junk?

2004-02-28 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, February 28, 2004, 10:43:15 AM, Allister wrote: AJ>>> I have one account which receives virtually nothing but spam - it's the AJ>>> account I use on websites when I have to. OK, so I know how to do all manner of things with email addresses *recorded on websites*. (And I know all those w

Known filter special?

2004-02-28 Thread Allister Jenks
Hello TBUDLers, Yes, I know it *is* special, but I had an idea that I wanted a sound to be played when something was filtered by it - i.e. some *real* email has arrived. Alas, this does not seem to be possible? -- Cheers, Allister Current vers

Re: TBUDL Current version?

2004-02-27 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, February 28, 2004, 8:12:31 PM, Clive wrote: >> Yes and no. The previous release was 2.04.03 and that is more >> logical to me. I'm calling this one 07 for now. CT> I'm with you on this, Marck. The lack of the leading zero in version CT> numbers is very confusing. Surely this is simply

Re[2]: Filter as Junk?

2004-02-27 Thread Allister Jenks
Saturday, February 28, 2004, 8:37:10 AM, Greg wrote: AJ>> I have one account which receives virtually nothing but spam - it's the AJ>> account I use on websites when I have to. GS> You might want to try some Java script for you email for protection. I actually meant I enter that one at other peo

Filter as Junk?

2004-02-27 Thread Allister Jenks
Hello tbudlers, I have one account which receives virtually nothing but spam - it's the account I use on websites when I have to. I just decided that an Inbox filter of 'Sender contains "@"' could be used to train BayesIt with rather less effort on my part (although it gets most of them already).

Re[2]: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

2004-02-23 Thread Allister Jenks
Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 11:22:15 AM, Mark wrote: M> When I installed 2.04.4 over 2.01.3 the installation M> routine presented a default folder for install, which M> I assumed to be the current installation folder. M> However, the default folder presented was M> c:/program files/TheBat M> The 2

Re: SERIOUS problem!

2004-02-21 Thread Allister Jenks
Sunday, February 22, 2004, 4:00:22 PM, I wrote: AJ> Any problems I've had with TB! until now have been annoying. Today it AJ> seems to have *lost* emails! AJ> When collecting emails just now, it received all those waiting on the AJ> server (POP3) and then appeared to hang when logging off the se

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