[Therion] A wtherion update

> I have an update to share regarding wtherion, which you hopefully remember is my project for a web-based Therion map editor to replace XTherion's map editing capabilities: > https://github.com/daem-on/wtherion > The scope of the project hasn't really changed, but I'd be interested to work

[Therion] Geographical Coordinates on grid

Kia ora Alastair I have not looked at the specifics that you provided, but off the top of my head… When I was new to Therion, over a decade ago, I expected ‘grid-coords border’ to put coordinates on the outermost visible grid intersections around the perimeter of an exported pdf. After

[Therion] Metapost for sump/syphon hazard symbol

Hello I'm looking for a Therion map symbol to emphasize the hazard posed by a localised low roof in passages (typically 2m to 5m in diameter) that are usually inaccessible due to water, but in dry conditions appear innocuous to the unwary. Currently I'm using an empty placeholder symbol, point

[Therion] Placing labels or symbols over top of labels

Hello everyone Is it possible to draw line arrow (or other symbols) over top of areas clipped by the 'shadow' of labels? Or if not, would it be desirable to be able to draw some symbols over top of labels? One use case would be as below, ensuring the line arrow shown in red below could

[Therion] Compilation outcome depends on order of source statements

Here is an issue that took me too many days to unravel. The order of source statements in a thconfig affects the outcome of the compilation. I think the problem, or constraint, can be described as: * Multi-line source statements must follow all single line source statements, else

[Therion] Flush logfile output (PR #541) - Therion log file truncated prematurely

Thanks Matěj Limited checking suggests therion.log files created with this commit are complete up to the ### end of loop errors ###, although I am expecting scrap distortions and CRS transformations, and there are none. Not sure if this is my oversight or something that should be written and

[Therion] Change altitude colours

Try also layout colour-legend #specifies whether the legend colours are presented as a smoothed vertical band or discrete boxes (smooth applies to altitudes and dates only I think) smooth-shading #specifies whether each scrap is rendered as a single colour or smoothed in accordance with

[Therion] scale option for lines

> Does anybody know another situation where line scale option is relevant? My understandings and deductions are here https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/drawingchecklist Probably you have all the line scale options now, but there maybe something more towards the bottom of the page. Bruce

[Therion] Setting map border framethickness to zero (off) -layout call order inconsistent

And just noticed this https://github.com/therion/therion/issues/425 Maybe related? Sent: Sunday, 5 November 2023 18:52 To: 'List for Therion users' Subject: Setting map border framethickness to zero (off) -layout call order inconsistent OK, there is some strange behaviour wrt the order

[Therion] Setting map border framethickness to zero (off) -layout call order inconsistent

OK, there is some strange behaviour wrt the order of layout processing, or at least which layout statement prevails in the case of a conflict. I took the basic rabbit cave example, and modified the thconfig slightly to give one of the exports conflicting layout calls: #CODE TO PUT BORDER

[Therion] Setting map border framethickness to zero (off)

that is what I deduce from the behaviour where there are conflicting \framethickness statements. Except I think I have evidence that for some layout content it is the other way around. Anyone else have any insights as to the order of layout processing in export commands? Bruce From: Bruce Mutton

[Therion] Setting map border framethickness to zero (off)

Good morning Probably a simple tex question. I often use this code to create a border around an exported map: code tex-map \framethickness=0.5mm >From time to time (in the same compilation run) I insert one exported map into another using map-image and usually the inserted map should

Re: [Therion] -flip horizontal and line numbering

Not able to test just now, but think I noticed the same thing some time ago.I recall it took me a few attempts to understand what was happening. Would likely stall an inexperienced user. As with Martin, the durable solution I came up with was to name each station to be joined. Inconvenient when

[Therion] 'Colour by error' is not displayed by Aven if 'flags duplicate' is applied to leg in Therion

Not sure if this is a Survex Aven issue or an issue with the way Therion parses data to a *.3d file, or indeed whether it is because I’m using an old version of Aven. I was surveying fore-sight back-sight pairs, first time in a cave for ages... so initially made a naïve oversight: - forgot

[Therion] Therion error - a software BUG is present

Oops I attempted to equate a pair of stations to close a large loop in an otherwise well behaved but complex model, and suddenly Therion reports a software BUG. About to post this message, and noticed that I had this same issue 11 years ago

[Therion] A puzzle in Loch

> One thing that strikes me is that the spike is not horizontal. It angles > upward by about 20 degrees. Hi Bill If it helps (unlikely), I have had a project where the Loch model has (had) just such a spike, one hundred or so metres long, angling about 20 deg upwards. For more than 10 years

[Therion] Invalid length reading error reported due to (valid) scrap definition

they might normally be expected) and if not found by the end of a file, then issue a warning "missing endcentreline in file xxx.th". Thanks Bruce From: Therion On Behalf Of Bruce Mutton Sent: Monday, 7 August 2023 15:36 To: 'List for Therion users' Subject: [Therion] Invalid leng

[Therion] Invalid length reading error reported due to (valid) scrap definition

Hello I have a perplexing error, this time around after a complicated git merge, and I have had similar on one occasion a while back. I think I resolved by omitting the file, which is not really a resolution. This time I need a better solution! On compiling a thconfig I get an error:

[Therion] Big room multiple scraps - How to join

attached. === Bill Gee On 8/4/23 14:53, Bruce Mutton wrote: > > The problem is the sketches are not transparent enough to use. The > only part of the sketch that has any visible drawing on it is for the > last scrap mentioned in the map statement of the .th file

[Therion] Big room multiple scraps - How to join

> The problem is the sketches are not transparent enough to use. The only part > of the sketch that has any visible drawing on it is for the last scrap > mentioned in the map statement of the .th file. The other drawings are not > visible. Bill Select the image, untick visibility

Re: [Therion] How to add 1.5 x linefeed to a text string

Thanks Tarquin I am able in my bumbling way to work with metapost and tex, but my use case here does not warrant that and feels better suited to using standard features. I'll leave this one for now. Possibly there is a case for a <1.5br> control to compliment the existing etc in some future

[Therion] How to add 1.5 x linefeed to a text string

>> I'm wondering if there is a way to add a 1.5x linefeed to text >> strings in Therion? >Not sure if there is a proper way, but you can just put tex into the text input in xtherion, right? If so, you could try foo \thtinysize \thnormalsize bar Could not make that work. No errors, Therion

[Therion] How to add 1.5 x linefeed to a text string

Good evening I'm wondering if there is a way to add a 1.5x linefeed to text strings in Therion? I can make the same effect using the tex parameter \medskip as demonstrated in the Therion \legendcontent routine. But sometimes it would be nice to do it in drawing labels and in strings such as

[Therion] Big room multiple scraps - How to join

Bill As Tarquin points out, looks to me like scraps with openings wider than the scrap is long. The solution is invisible walls along the interior joins. Another thing to check is that all the walls have the correct orientation - all the left-side yellow ticks point to the interior of the passage

[Therion] map colour usage description in Therion Book

Hello Just now I was having difficulty remembering how to colour a particular map a specific colour, different to the colour scheme applied to most of the maps being output. My first challenge was to figure out that this could only be done via 'select' in a thconfig, and not within the

[Therion] Statistics on surveys of a network

MS Outlook blocks attachments with extension .py Perhaps you can repost after changing the extension to .txt? Thanks Bruce -Original Message- From: Therion On Behalf Of Philippe Vernant Sent: Wednesday, 10 May 2023 20:54 To: List for Therion users Subject: Re: [Therion] Statistics on

Re: [Therion] map-comment

Check in the Therion Book and wiki for quite a lot of other options. Bruce  Sent from my Galaxy Original message From: Erik Meitner Date: 4/04/23 11:00 (GMT+12:00) To: therion@speleo.sk Subject: [Therion] map-comment Hi folks,Is there any way to create a multi-line

[Therion] 2 Map-connection issue - Going to four levels - Offset tests SAMD-ITF-IS example

March 2023 08:28 To: List for Therion users Cc: Martin Sluka Subject: Re: [Therion] 2 Map-connection issue - Going to four levels - Offset tests SAMD-ITF-IS example 23. 3. 2023 v 20:13, Bruce Mutton mailto:br...@tomo.co.nz> >: One more question. I presume you have strict sepa

[Therion] 2 Map-connection issue - Going to four levels - Offset tests SAMD-ITF-IS example

rovska_s22.map [-20 0 m] below endmap 15. 3. 2023 v 19:56, Bruce Mutton mailto:br...@tomo.co.nz> >: Interesting Martin Your example mostly demonstrates one level of offset, but it goes to two levels bottom-left (to blue to purple), and apparently three levels at the bottom (to green

[Therion] 3 Map-connection issue - effect of map-level

Hi Tarquin Yes, I added a lot of tedious detail to https://github.com/therion/therion/issues/412 some time ago. I suggest ignoring most of the information I posted in there and skipping right to the last post I made on 11 July 2022. The images from that particular example are from a project

[Therion] Remove little text in global export & offseted map

David, Tarquin I think we discussed the map-connection offsets last year, without real resolution. I couldn’t find them in the mail-archive just now, so I’ll send my posts again in the hope that they describe the problem and present results of some experimentation that defines somewhat the

[Therion] Mapiah and WTherion

I've been dabbling with WTherion, and while it is progressing well and looking very good in many respects, it is flagged as a sort term interim project (on Matrix ) and I see some high-level challenges: * it seems a document must be saved in three places for

Re: [Therion] More on showing only some cross-sections

> Is there a list of the predefined contexts and groups? >From the Therion Book (pg 53), group may be one of the following: all, centerline, sections, water, speleothems, passage-fills, ice, sediments, equipment. text, cave-centreline, surface-centreline ...depending on the context. Bruce

Re: [Therion] filtering for export continuation-list

Like this https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/drawingchecklist#points and scroll down to point continuation -text "Description" -attr who "M Name" -attr what climb -attr priority low -attr ref plan # -explored 8.0m 'who' is the person(s) who identified the the item, or the person assigned to

[Therion] Export centerline and LR (plan) UD (section)

Răzvan Looks like you answered your question. You have an xvi that displays left and right dimensions. If you want these to be visible in other formats, such as pdf, then you need to set a map foreground colour that differs from the background colour. The simplest way to do this is something

Re: [Therion] Label and passage height colours

cover me. Cheers, Paul On Mon, 1 Aug 2022 at 18:12, Bruce Mutton mailto:br...@tomo.co.nz> > wrote: Hi Paul If you are asking if it is possible to change the colour of a specific instance of a particular type of generic object, I think the answer is no, unless you modify the me

Re: [Therion] Label and passage height colours

Hi Paul If you are asking if it is possible to change the colour of a specific instance of a particular type of generic object, I think the answer is no, unless you modify the metapost definition for the generic object to allow attributes such as colours to be parsed. If you want all of a

[Therion] Map-connection issue

> But I just tested it done with multiple levels, and my offset arrows still > work, so I cannot reproduce the behaviour you described. It is always the > inner-most offset (so to speak) that creates the arrow. At least with my > stuff - you doubtless have much more complex stuff than me.

[Therion] Remove symbols from legend

> Can p_u_foo be hidden from the legend? Some examples. Statements need to be in thconfig outside of layouts. #symbols removed from legends text en "point u:foo" "" text en "point station:temporary" "" text en "line wall:bedrock" "" text fr "line wall:bedrock" "" text mi "line

[Therion] Extend start control, a possible bug and a feature request

I'm working on an extended elevation for a short cave that has 10 loops and I'm having trouble getting the extended elevation that I would like. I suspect that it would be easier if I placed the extend statements in each of the survey data centrelines where the legs are enumerated, but instead I

Re: [Therion] new Therion 6.1.0

> Just got around to updating, using the standard "Windows installer" on the Therion download page. In this release, I have been getting this error on Windows 10 when trying to run Loch: > This doesn't sound like something wrong on my machine, but I would have expected someone else to mention it

Re: [Therion] Is copying supposed to be done in reverse?

Ha! It was the great Tarquin who provided me with insight one year ago https://www.mail-archive.com/therion@speleo.sk/msg08109.html ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion

Re: [Therion] Is copying supposed to be done in reverse?

Hi Tarquin I have occasionally had unexpected behaviours due to conflicting layout calls, and came up with the recipe here for hierarchy and order of calls some time ago https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/bds#order_of_layout_functions_called As far as I am aware, the last called layout or

[Therion] extend start mysteries

Hello again I notice that the extend log sometimes includes many START statements. I can understand why the algorithm needs to reset itself once it gets to the end of a branch, and then backtracks all the way back to the original start, having generated all of the side passages on that branch on

Re: [Therion] looking for code metapost for area Blocks

Hello Gilbert Here is a link to the instructions for extracting the metapost used by your Therion installation. https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/metapost#how_to_get_therions_metapost_code_an d_tex_code Enjoy Bruce -Original Message- From: Therion On Behalf Of Gilbert (liste) Sent:

Re: [Therion] New default settings and recent proj changes

file gets updated;) M. On Wed, Apr 27, 2022, 21:33 Bruce Mutton mailto:br...@tomo.co.nz> > wrote: Hi Martin eaec752 looks like it should provide clarity. I would like to be able to compile a dataset that activates this code (for curiosity and maybe user testing), but it seems now th

Re: [Therion] New default settings and recent proj changes

enable it and Proj then downloads just small parts of grids relevant to your area and stores them in its database without letting you know what exactly got downloaded. Martin On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 9:43 PM Bruce Mutton wrote: > > Thanks Martin ... > A suggestion below. > > therio

[Therion] New default settings and recent proj changes

From: Therion On Behalf Of Martin Budaj Sent: Wednesday, 27 April 2022 05:24 To: List for Therion users Subject: Re: [Therion] Problem with new default settings and recent proj changes On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 11:45 AM Bruce Mutton mailto:br...@tomo.co.nz> > wrote: I am a little co

[Therion] Updated XTherion editor side panel adjustment

thought I may as well ask. I will have a play with the settings above next time I have a drawing session. Bruce -Original Message- Cc: Tarquin Wilton-Jones Subject: Re: [Therion] Updated XTherion editor side panel adjustment On 28/02/2022 01:12, Bruce Mutton wrote: >

[Therion] Updated XTherion editor side panel adjustment

expect there may be a variable I could edit in XTherion.ini (or is XTherion.new.ini, there seems to be one of each) that will increase the snapping distance. If so, what is the variable name? (and how to use?) Bruce From: Therion On Behalf Of Bruce Mutton Sent: Wednesday, 23 February

[Therion] Ukraine

I am sure there are people on this list that are more than a little affected by the invasion of Ukraine. While lucky enough to be far away, I am shocked and am thinking of you, my friends, and how I might help in some small way. Bruce ___ Therion

Re: [Therion] Updated XTherion editor side panel adjustment missing

, there is a menu item for switching panels and I was too lazy to change .ini file to test it. It should be fixed now. S. On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 at 08:08, Bruce Mutton mailto:br...@tomo.co.nz> > wrote: Thanks Stacho That is so so much better. What I have secretly wished for, for many

[Therion] Updated XTherion editor side panel adjustment missing

Thanks Stacho That is so so much better. What I have secretly wished for, for many years! But. Both 3f4366c and 683b226 have problems when menu Window.Switch Panels is used to put the control panel on the left-hand side. A screenshot here from the earlier 3f4366c, although 683b226 does the

[Therion] Updated XTherion editor side panel adjustment missing

The new look (v 6.0.5) XTherion editor seems to be missing the small button control that allows resizing of the side panel. I often like to make it quite large when editing objects with a long options string. Is resizing of the panel still available and I'm just not seeing it, or is it

Re: [Therion] new Therion 6.0.5

“Could someone maybe explain what the difference is between 3D and LRUD envelope? I get how 3D probably works based on the rendered 3D view of the cave. But how can the LRUD thing work when I only use splays instead of LRUD? Does it just pick some particular or average splay and use it as a

[Therion] Delete documents in Therion wiki Media Manager

Just been doing a little maintenance, and this document is no longer required on the Therion wiki, and is no longer referenced by any wiki pages as far as I can tell. I couldn't figure out how to remove or delete it. If someone has additional privileges, or knows how, feel free to delete

Re: [Therion] Hide symbols within certain maps/subsurveys

Tarquin This sort of thing can be done, perhaps not completely, with surface and cave centreline component visibility. There is an old conversation about it somewhere, but I cannot find it just now. Something like: symbol-hide group cave-centreline #1. hides all centrelines, incl

Re: [Therion] Handling of tape and backtape in survey data

I just checked on my little experiment of some years ago, and I misrepresented it. > PocketTopo automatically detects backsights if they are taken immediately after a foresight. So the software handles the station naming, no user intervention required. That much is true. You end up with

Re: [Therion] Handling of tape and backtape in survey data

> instead Toporobot just generates a new station for the backsite. PocketTopo automatically detects backsights if they are taken immediately after a foresight. So the software handles the station naming, no user intervention required. While I processed the only survey I ever did this way with

Re: [Therion] Migovec Github survey data project

rules. But most commonly it works this way: - you clone the repo at github (so its public) - you make a new branch and do your stuff - you then open a pull request against the upstream repo - someone there inspects it and if it is accepted, will merge - done Am 19.12.2021 um 00:43 schrieb

[Therion] Migovec Github survey data project

Not directly a Therion question. I've been loosely following the progress of https://github.com/iccaving/migovec-survey-data a couple of years, but only recently started migrating some projects of my own to git. So thought I'd dispense with just admiring the outputs and fork the migovec

[Therion] A little French in XTherion English language text editor

Answered my questions. Ticking the box makes the data table cycle through the from and to station boxes. Unticking the box makes the data table omit the from and to station boxes from the data entry cycle. Bruce From: Therion On Behalf Of Bruce Mutton Sent: Tuesday, 14 December 2021 19:41

[Therion] A little French in XTherion English language text editor

First time I have manually entered survey data into XTherion for years. A mysterious French prompt has appeared - I think it is a toggle forcing XTherion to ask for station names. Except that ticked or unticked there seems to be no difference in behaviour . Is there meant to be a tick

[Therion] Therion] Get shortest route

This was discussed in 2008 in Therion circles. https://www.mail-archive.com/therion@speleo.sk/msg02037.html To be really useful, the user should be able to specify multiple stations, with the algorithm finding the shortest centreline distance along the centreline network that passes through all of

Re: [Therion] Rock border not creating boulders with smooth altitude shading

I'm with you Tarquin. See my other message (some reason it has not turned up in https://www.mail-archive.com/therion@speleo.sk/) Seems like it is intentional, but it is more complicated than that. This page describes https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/contrib:externalviewers#examples_of_rendering

[Therion] Is survey -namespace off and sometimes on possible in same survey project?

>>Em domingo, 14 de novembro de 2021 às 2:10 AM, Bruce Mutton >> escreveu: >> Just a quick question before contemplating the migration of a large (more >> than 70 km and many caves) dataset to Therion. >> >> The dataset has unique station names, so in Therio

[Therion] Is survey -namespace off and sometimes on possible in same survey project?

Just a quick question before contemplating the migration of a large (more than 70 km and many caves) dataset to Therion. The dataset has unique station names, so in Therion speak, every survey would have -namespace off set. I have never used this setting, but do not anticipate any problem so

Re: [Therion] Minimum symbol scale

> Andrew (or perhaps this is Bruce's originally) has a partial solution in MetaPost: if abs(llcorner txt - ulcorner txt ) > 3pt: I borrowed from Thomas Holder https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/metapost#scale_dependant_visualization_of_sym bols Good luck with your quest Tarquin. Bruce

Re: [Therion] Therion Github plan

Oops, a free or paid plan? From: Therion On Behalf Of Bruce Mutton Sent: Thursday, 14 October 2021 08:02 To: 'List for Therion users' Subject: [Therion] Therion Github plan Just curious Is the Therion repository on Github <https://github.com/pricing> supported by a free or a pai

[Therion] Therion Github plan

Just curious Is the Therion repository on Github supported by a free or a pain plan? Bruce ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion

Re: [Therion] Selecting map defined with preview only causes error

message according to your suggestion. I assume the same map can be generated using a single map-fg color and hiding all symbols. Or am I missing something? S. On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 at 06:54, Bruce Mutton mailto:br...@tomo.co.nz> > wrote: Hello Team I think this may be

[Therion] Selecting map defined with preview only causes error

Hello Team I think this may be a bug. Selecting a map with only previews inside of it is causing an error, where possibly it should not. And if it is by design that it triggers an error, then the message it gives is not helpful. A better message would be "map cannot contain only previews"

Re: [Therion] Existing xvi background images not visible in XTherion Map Editor, insertion causes error

> thanks a lot for finding out and reporting. Introducing “Rob Davies”. After a quick spin through, it looks like 23b301e is working. Thanks for the speedy turnaround Stacho. Bruce ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk

Re: [Therion] Elevation scrap distortion with survex 3.d import

> One last question. If I wanted to try a projected elevation (to remove the extra complexity of the extending process) how do I specify the projection angle? > An angle seems to be a parameter in a scrap '-proj elevation' definition, but what determines what angle the _centreline_ is viewed

Re: [Therion] cannot load thconfig in xtherion

If there is a vote going on extensions, I'd go for .thc rather than .thconfig, but I guess it is not so important. Bruce -Original Message- From: Therion On Behalf Of Tarquin Wilton-Jones via Therion Sent: Monday, 23 August 2021 20:37 To: therion@speleo.sk Cc: Tarquin Wilton-Jones

Re: [Therion] Therion 6.0.1 colour processing problem

(6.01) on Windows my maps refuse to compile even though they used to compile just fine before and still compile under the previous version (on a Linux machine) Specifically this piece of code in LayoutStandards.thc drafted by Bruce Mutton found here: https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/_media

Re: [Therion] Plan gridline colour changes unpredictably

you got 10% gray in some RGB setups, some test data would be needed. To get 10% grey colour you need to use 0.1[white,black] which works in all RGB, CMYK and Grayscale. Cheers Martin On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 11:29 AM Bruce Mutton mailto:br...@tomo.co.nz> > wrote: Curious

[Therion] Plan gridline colour changes unpredictably

Curious I have in my layout some metapost code to redefine the plan gridlines, used without apparent problem for perhaps 10 years. It includes a colour specification. withcolor 0.1black+0.5white; Mostly they come out like this, very light grey. This example is exported using

[Therion] Graphic tablet with XTherion

After many many years XTherioning with a mouse, I think I might try a graphic tablet for drawing with XTherion, and maybe soon, Inkscape. Do I need anything fancy, or will the simplest do? One of these? https://www.huion.com/pen_tablet/Inspiroy/H430P.html Bruce

[Therion] using revise to set a map colour, and

Hello I'm trying to force the colour of a particular submap, either from a thconfig or from within a layout. The thconfig route gives an error - unknown configuration command The layout route gives an error - unknown option Tried using these two syntax, and variously swapping '-colour' and

Re: [Therion] Therion 6.0.0 altitude colour legend feedback

>On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 12:08 PM Bruce Mutton <mailto:br...@tomo.co.nz> > wrote: The new colourbar misses out the top colour (red), and generally biases the colours on the colourbar too far up relative to the labelled altitudes (a bug). >Hi, this should be fixed in th

[Therion] GitHub Windows installer

>You need to get the windows installer from GitHub now, as we no longer build >windows binaries on our server. The new links are in the Downloads section of >the Therion web page >For example start here:

Re: [Therion] Some metapost symbols defined so they cannot be scaled

; def PenC = pencircle scaled (0.5*u/10) enddef; def PenD = pencircle scaled (0.35*u/10) enddef; def PenX = pencircle scaled (1.2*u/10) enddef; legend_scale := 3.14*u; enddef; From: Therion mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk> > On Behalf Of Bruce Mutton Sent: Monda

[Therion] Minimum symbol scale

Yes, I wouldn't mind some more refinement. Here are my comments from a while back (some of which may have been resolved since). [Therion] min-symbol-scale and fonts-setup https://www.mail-archive.com/therion@speleo.sk/msg06651.html [Therion] scaling line ornamentation - metapost

[Therion] Some metapost symbols defined so they cannot be scaled

I've just noticed that some metapost symbols are coded so that they ignore scaling options xs, s, l, xl. For example point dig is positioned but not rotated or scaled. def p_dig_UIS (expr pos,r,s,al) = U:=(.4u, .5u); T:=identity aligned al shifted pos; thfill

Re: [Therion] xtherion - Multiple background sketches

>> Handling of transparency is probably a feature of the image >> library rather than xTherion. >I don't think the standard JPEG format supports transparency. Correct, jpg does not support transparency, so you must use png to have any hope of achieving a transparent background to an image.

Re: [Therion] xtherion - Multiple background sketches

> 2) Is there a way to make images transparent? Have half a memory that I made the background transparent in a png 'background image' (using an external editor), and XTherion honoured the transparency. Or am I making that up? Bruce ___ Therion

[Therion] Two extended profiles for same survey

>Can you do this in a thconfig: >source "cave.th" >source "extend1.th" >where cave.th contains the cave survey data, and extend1.th contains the >"extend" commands? >I would imagine that to do it, you would need to re-enter the original survey, >which is not permitted. Multiple source files

Re: [Therion] Two extended profiles for same survey

Hi Roger As Tarquin mentioned, it is quite easy, although it may take some work to convert an existing project. I only export one extended profile shape per compiler run, but it might be possible to export multiple profiles per compile - conceptually it should work, maybe there is some detail

[Therion] Main route through a cave

> I would have thought the easier way would be a "flags" switch that could do > it for you. "flags mainroute". It wouldn't even be an estimate. Maybe some of > the Survex folks on this list could shed some light on how feasible that > would be. Might require a Survex modification though.

[Therion] Main route through a cave

> I am surveying a cave that could be best described as an insanity of hidden > routes. > When you go through the cave, it feels easy. You follow the obvious route... > This means that the survey is harder to navigate than the cave itself. Welcome to my world. Have not solved the problem yet

Re: [Therion] sort drawings authors

Yes Phil This functionality was added earlier this year (or was it last year?) Here is a standard layout that I use. The comments should give you a clue as to functionality. layout LayoutStatisticsNormal #--- List all participant statistics in order of

[Therion] XTherion background image control and bitmap file size question

on. I think this is what you were referring to Alistair? So XTherion can scale, rotate and morph images. It is just an indirect process. Hopefully I will remember it for next time it comes up. Thanks Bruce 12. 5. 2021 v 22:36, Bruce Mutton mailto:br...@tomo.co.nz> >: Thanks for your

[Therion] pdftex error introduced after c43b32a (2021-03-08)

Hi Martin Not sure if this is a problem related to recent code changes, but if it is not, I am unsure what I did to create it, as I haven't changed anything at my end as far as I know. A subset of this project has been compiling fine, but when I try to compile a larger section I get the error

[Therion] XVI output misaligned (rotated) from original TopoDroid sketches

. Not sure if anyone has tried generating an XVI and putting it under the TopoDroid sketch to compare them? Cheers, Paul On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 at 08:19, Bruce Mutton mailto:br...@tomo.co.nz> > wrote: Hi Paul The misalignment is not matching the magnetic declination by any

[Therion] XVI output misaligned (rotated) from original TopoDroid sketches

Hi Paul The misalignment is not matching the magnetic declination by any chance? Or the difference between a manual declination setting in either application and an automatically calculated declination based on a cs setting? I have not used TopoDroid since it was able to export sketches, so

Re: [Therion] Need help producing scraps.kml without white blobs

Hi Michael As Tarquin mentioned, I have found that stopping the walls on both sides of the passage in a single scrap will upset kml generation. Maybe pictures are clearer. In the scenarios pictured below you need to create separate scraps each side of the gap. So in your example there should

[Therion] Need help producing scraps.kml without white blobs

Hi Michael Unless Stacho's magic fixes your problem, I would expect that it is most likely that the yellow tick marks do not point inside of the passages in all cases, or -outline in/out is not set correctly. Your example image is exactly the sort of thing that first time kml users produce. It

[Therion] export model kml causes untrapped error

herion users Subject: Re: [Therion] export model kml causes untrapped error Hi Bruce, could you please try f18c718? I had a similar issue with my dataset. S. On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 at 05:58, Bruce Mutton mailto:br...@tomo.co.nz> > wrote: Good afternoon or morning I have

[Therion] export model kml causes untrapped error

Good afternoon or morning I have a situation that I suspect might stem from user error, because it affects only one project, the data is a little messy, and there are 30 m miscloses involved, although Therion is good at dealing with such things, so maybe that is not significant. My other suspect

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