Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-18 Thread Judy Taylor
bent they've fallen under but, unless his/your positions are quite similar (who knows other than The Shadow?), he rarely speaks with 'prophetic' clarity concerning YOUR HERETICAL BENT. From: Judy Taylor I do not and have not ever deniedthat Jesus came the first time in &

Re: [TruthTalk] TT's ??

2006-01-18 Thread Judy Taylor
with utter fascination! As I've said often the bigger concern is with DM who is himself an overseer and, an SP. What accountability lies therein! From: Judy Taylor Oh! really Lance, then you have come up with a new category? .. Nay, rather you are insulting us both b

Re: [TruthTalk] The rationality of God -- nonsense

2006-01-18 Thread Judy Taylor
bly does it with his 'flock'. From: Judy Taylor Well that is your own personal opinion Lance. How is it you expect perfection from DavidM? Why not give him some space? There is just once source of ALL truth Lance and I expect DavidM is still learning by going

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-18 Thread Judy Taylor
ipture." Well, you have been shown. Now, is that all smoke, or are you going to live by your words? Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: Truth

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus -- God nor Man

2006-01-18 Thread Judy Taylor
her nuance that is uniquely JudyTaylor. Not necessarily a bad thing, by the way Not Judy Taylor JD. It is Jesus. Read Matt 22:42-46; Mark 12:36; Luke 20:42. Your doctrine is that of the scribes and pharisees JD. And if it is according to the flesh that Christ was

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus -- God nor Man

2006-01-18 Thread Judy Taylor
uot; is not your "natural seed," we have yet another nuance that is uniquely JudyTaylor. Not necessarily a bad thing, by the way Not Judy Taylor JD. It is Jesus. Read Matt 22:42-46; Mark 12:36; Luke 20:42. Your doctrine is that of the scribes and

Re: [TruthTalk] God is real -- Stan is not

2006-01-18 Thread Judy Taylor
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:52:18 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: God is Spirit. Satan is a fallen angel. Satan and angels are spirits also - see Heb 1:7 Everything about God is genuine. Nothing about Satan is genuine. Everything about Satan is genuine also only it is

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-18 Thread Judy Taylor
LORD said to my Lord, "Sit at My right hand,Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.'" Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both LORD and Christ." Bill

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-18 Thread Judy Taylor
LORD and Christ." Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 20

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
pose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made" (Gal 2.19). You know, Judy, you always say "Show me in Scripture." Well, you have been shown. Now, is that all smoke, or are you g

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
whom the promise was made" (Gal 2.19). You know, Judy, you always say "Show me in Scripture." Well, you have been shown. Now, is that all smoke, or are you going to live by your words? Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To:

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
I was not implying anything like that. Is He God or isn't He? On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:40:03 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy, you are not the Holy Spirit. Bill From: Judy Taylor What do you think the Holy Spirit is Bill? You don't underst

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
s made" (Gal 2.19). You know, Judy, you always say "Show me in Scripture." Well, you have been shown. Now, is that all smoke, or are you going to live by your words? Bill - Original Message - From:

Re: [TruthTalk] The rationality of God -- nonsense

2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
will repeat what you have spoken, Judy Taylor. jd -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 03:21:28 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dean, don't get too excited , here. Judy does not use

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
been shown. Now, is that all smoke, or are you going to live by your words? Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, Jan

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
The devil's seed is a spiritual seed and so is the seed of the woman which is born by way of the Holy Spirit. Why is there such a big brouhaha over this? Oh I forgot "Orthodoxy" On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 06:24:40 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
en shown. Now, is that all smoke, or are you going to live by your words? Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE

2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
just stay where you are. I'll leave, Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:52 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [TruthTalk] view him (David Miller) as a game player-playing with others

2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
Wait till he comes out of withdrawal - that's when the knockout comes Lance On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:11:39 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dean, IMO, intends this more favorably than I would. There is a 'cat and mouse' style noticeable within SOME of David's posts. Even in

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
care about Judy's salvation, it is time to start hearing from the Street Preacher's on this one. It is one thing to live in ignorance; it is quite another to reject what you know to be true. Bill From: Judy Taylor To:

Re: [TruthTalk] TT's ??

2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
Thanks for your input Dean; I have no problem with Jesus having a human flesh body... but I havea "huge" insurmountable problem with the idea that Mary's child, the one called by the angel "the holy pure sinless offspring" born of her and called the Son of God" (Luke 1:36 Amp) ATSThad a

[TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
-- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] He died so that you could change and be part of a New Creation in Him JD If you are so proud of your old nasty sinner self then it's all yours but it won't go to heaven On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:52:14 +

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
. From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill, God called Israel his firstborn son also - now whose sperma was that? Oh I guess you are going to tell me Isaac. But Ishmael was also a biological son of Abraham. Don't you understand about spiritual seed at all? Same

Re: [TruthTalk] The rationality of God -- nonsense

2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
N THERE WERE NONE - Because the above is not what I believe at all. It is a construct of your own very active imagination JD. -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] You try to bringthe Lord Jesus Christ down to your level JD, r

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:15:53 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is really sad that Bill says I can't be saved unless I accept his kind of orthodoxy. No, Bill is using theBible to correct you, and to exhort you to change your mind, Judy. You don't have

Re: [TruthTalk] view him (David Miller) as a game player-playing with others

2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
I find it amusing how you fellows pat yourselves on the back and call each other Bishop and Professor Yet you JD trashed the doctrine Lance holds so dear to his heart just yesterday. Obviously there is no unity of purpose between you and you are from different cultures... To me it appears

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-17 Thread Judy Taylor
. jd -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jesus is the seed of the woman as the prophecy in Genesis foretells. He was fathered by the Holy Spirit Now if you want to say that the Holy Spirit is the "s

Fw: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and biblical language

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
ee. My point is this: every English word in our bible is "added " to the original text. so you like godhead" and I like "trinity." They are both translations of the orgiinal word and/or thought. jd -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor Here we go

Re: [TruthTalk] A DM like thought

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
Why? Isn't it possible to be pre-existent aside from being an "Eternal Son" implying that there must have been two births; and another mother besides Mary. On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 07:28:51 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Those who deny Christ's eternal pre-existence have some

[TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
ine nature when we receive Him as a covenant partner and agree to walk after the Spirit learning His will and His ways. On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 07:24:10 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Judy Taylor Dean, I think this is where "theology"

Re: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and biblical language

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
ur sources on this, Judy. I believe he claimed to be speaking under 'inspiration'. From: Judy Taylor Benny Hinn was quoting another source and from what I understand he repented of this error. so you'll need to find a more up to date one than this. A good il

Re: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
this matter then, 'all truth' does NOT include this rather central and rather important matter concerning 'who Jesus is'. From: Judy Taylor I am speaking of two natures and the idea that "the humanity of Christ was not divine" James wrote under th

Re: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and biblical language

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
tter, Judy?. From: Judy Taylor No Dean, Benny learned this from the Dakes Bible. Finis Dake wrote that the three members of the trinity all have a body a soul and a spirit causingBenny Hinn towrite in one of his books (I think it was Good Morning H

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
al Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/14/2006 1:07:17 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE Dean, I think this is where "

Re: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and biblical language

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
0:00 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please check your sources on this, Judy. I believe he claimed to be speaking under 'inspiration'. From: Judy Taylor Benny Hinn was quoting another source and from

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:16:00 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was just wanting to betterunderstand whatyou were wanting me to agree with in your statement: we agree if you view the Human part to also have divine thoughts. Having read your response I am comfortable that we

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
Then apparently you never have gotten the issue resolved in your own mind and heart On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:05:12 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Been there, done that, Judy. I'm not interested in doing it again. Bill - Original Message - From:

Re: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and biblical language

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 7:21 AM Subject: Re: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and "biblical language" - Original Message - From: Judy Taylo

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
ous and none that does good EXCEPT ONE. Judy argues "like us" in total disregard of the additional phrase "IN EVERY WAY" -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 16 Jan 200

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
O NOT inherit God's Kingdom" Bill so what would be the purpose?? From: Judy Taylor OK - I'm asking Bill, what husband, and what schism? On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 07:28:15 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And while you're at it, will you

Re: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and biblical language

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
Possibly "your truth" Bill which is totally alien to what I would call it - makes me wonder what kind of christianity you adhere to. On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:30:38 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, but is it true? From: Judy Taylor Thi

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
ifice in our place. . From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 9:31 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE On Mon, 16

Re: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and biblical language

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
ot; [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where IS that interim moderator now? - Original Message ----- From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 16, 2006 11:33 Subject: Re: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lanc

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
ill be because God so loved the world ... Now where does the above fit into this picture - says Judy scratching her head From: Taylor so there is no way that this would be the same concept Bill. Why is that, Judy? Did "they" not create us in "their&

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
would have had no bearing upon human flesh, and we would therefore still be in sin. Bill Not so; all he had to do was meet God's conditions which apparently involved passing the test that AE failed and he did that in the wilderness... right after his baptism. From: Judy Ta

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
ted word (James 1:21) Our bodies must be transformed at the last trump (1 Cor 15:52) Chsh, That's what I say ... Judyt Bill From: Judy Taylor On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:04:41 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also "Flesh and blood

[TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
us salvation's plan which sadly many wrest to their own destruction.. From: Judy Taylor On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:29:01 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: so there is no way that this would be the same concept Bill.

[TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
nal phrase "IN EVERY WAY" -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:16:00 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:I was just wanting to better understand what you were wanting me to agree with in your stat

[TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Judy wrote: Tell me why he (Jesus) HAD to be like USin every way? Why couldn't he have been like the first Adam before the fall, the one who was created? If Jesus were only like the first Adam and not like the rest of us, then he could only redeem

[TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
Church Fathers. Why is that?? How can they state emphatically that Jesus is fully human and fully God and that his humanity is not divine? What kind of double talk is that?? David Miller. - Original Message ----- From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.inngl

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
't he have been like the first Adam before the fall, ... Because the first Adam before the fall did not need to be saved Judy. We do. Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
Temptation or no temptation. Well, Judy, then you are still in your sins and you do not have a Savior. Bill From: Judy Taylor The first Adam after the fall did indeed need savingfrom the wrath of God Bill and so do we. Our "humanity" is unde

[TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
Thanks David, Just a few notations... From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Judy, Jesus did not come ONLY to redeem us spiritually, but physically as well. Jesus redeemed the whole man, spirit, soul, and body. The body is the last thing to experience that redemption, which will be realized

[TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
pparently involved passing thetest that AE failed and he did that in the wilderness... right after his baptism.From: Judy Taylor On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:57:12 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:so there is no way that this would be the same concept Bill. Why is that, Judy? Did &

[TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
ing earthy about him. Temptation or no temptation. Well, Judy, then you are still in your sins and you do not have a Savior. Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 2:2

Re: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
t divine?"(Monday, January 16, 2006) He has got to be one or the other Bill - or it is YOUR JESUS who is a hybrid and not mine regardless of what the Church Fathers came up with. They were not God - there is a higher authority you know. From: Judy Taylor

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Huh ??

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
eed to be saved Judy. We do. Bill And judy , well, does what? The first Adam after the fall did indeed need savingfrom the wrath of God Bill and so do we. Judy From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] The first Adam after the fall did indeed need sa

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:46:10 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd: Jd would you say Christ was the same as common man? It's Bill, but I would say that Christ's human nature was the same as common man --or statements like "he learned obedience from the things he

Re: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:25 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE From: "David Miller&qu

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
From: Taylor Luke writes that Jesus was born of the fruit of David's genitals (Act 2.30): Not exactly Bill "David being a prophet and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Huh ?? and Huh?? again

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
Apparently you are not in the family I was thinking you ran with JD, you must be with them but not of them, an "independent" of some kind ... Hmmm the plot thickens!!! From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] JD Neither you or Bill are making any points th

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
head count of their children. It is a fact that He had to learn THE WAYS OF LIFE (Acts Scripture please JD. From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:46:10 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [TruthTalk] The rationality of God -- nonsense

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
one you can speak for. jd -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Excellent points Dean And you are not trying to cut Him up into different exclusive pieces - Hallelujah to King Jesus!! On Mon, 16

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

2006-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
was/is God -- and that, my dear, is an infinite difference. Bill From: Judy Taylor On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:46:10 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd: Jd would you say Christ was the same as common man? It's Bill, but I wou

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] The mystery of Judy's gospel

2006-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor
who'spoke the word of God' presentedin the OT text/s employed in context by the author of Hebrews) On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 21:59:29 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ||Yesterday he was God the Word, today He is God the Word

Re: [TruthTalk] Differences

2006-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor
ED] writes: It fascinates me that both yourself and DM believe that readers/participants on TT do not 'know' you. You both have no hesitation to say that you 'know' us. Why is that, Judy (DM)? From: Judy Taylor You wouldn't know what my thoughts make of Isaiah's

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] The mystery of Judy's gospel

2006-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor
he naive believer. - Original Message ----- From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 14, 2006 21:59 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] The mystery of Judy's gospel On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:45:00 + [EMA

[TruthTalk] The mystery of Judy's gospel

2006-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor
consider to be true. Could you please do the same? I doubt anyone on this forum can tell the rest of us what you believe. Seriously jd -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] God is the Creator of the ppl in Nineveh also and He is merciful and longsuffe

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: OK, done working for now

2006-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor
If this Victor person is correct and "UNBELIEF" is the predicament humanity is in then why was the Holy Spirit sent to reprove the WORLD (note this is not just God's covenant ppl) ofSIN, righteousness, and judgment? (John 16:8) Why didn't God send Himas an antidote to "unbelief" only if

Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Differences

2006-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor
at, Judy (DM)? - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 14, 2006 16:47 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Differences You wouldn't know what my thoughts make of Isaiah's Immanuel or the "mind of Christ" Gary bec

Re: [TruthTalk] OK, done working for now

2006-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor
in can also make one least in the kingdom of heaven.This speaks of a personal judgement between the personand God. - Original Message ----- From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/15/2006 8:28:37

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: OK, done working for now

2006-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor
Spirit(1 Cor 6:9)-so be not deceived-but sin can also make one least in the kingdom of heaven.This speaks of a personal judgement between the personand God. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.in

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor
My mother always said "To err is human, to forgive divine" so I am sure Dean has divine thoughts I've seen his public forgiveness right on TT On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:13:41 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So that I know for sure what you mean to convey, let me ask you: do you as

Re: [TruthTalk] The mystery of Judy's gospel

2006-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:47:47 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You often have trouble quoting our very words in a given post - and you expect us to believe that you can speak for the likes of Judy Taylor? Why get all over him JD when you are doing the exact same thing here

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] The mystery of Judy's gospel

2006-01-15 Thread Judy Taylor
g responsible for what I consider to be true. Could you please do the same? I doubt anyone on this forum can tell the rest of us what you believe. Seriously jd -- Original message ------ From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> God is the Cre

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
I don't know about all that Lance. What exact part of him are you calling "his humanity" Is it the body or the soul? Also what exactly is a "trinitarian nature?" These are brand new terms someone has come up with. Could this be called "adding to the Word of Truth?" On Sat, 14 Jan 2006

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 09:03:37 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Judy Taylor I don't believe you understand His nature at all Lance; also I fail to see why it is so important to you that he be God walking around on earth - why not allo

[TruthTalk] What is the gospel?

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
Well it is something that needs to be repented of JD; if it is not sin, then why the need to repent? Dead works is something lifeless as opposed to works of righteousness which are the fruit of walking after the spirit. One is dead religion - the other is life and peace. On Sat, 14 Jan 2006

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and biblical language

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
On employing 'non-biblical' terminology when speaking of WHO Jesus is: Insofar as the language one chooses accurately reflects the subject under discussion it may be viewed as legitimate, helpful and, even necessary. May I ask that anyone responding to the above take t

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
Dean, I think this is where "theology" gets itself tied in knots. This is what JD has been accusing me of for so long. Howironic that his mentor Bill would write something like this. I think Lance just repeated it to qualify something. So their Jesus must have a schism in his personality

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
Dean, I think this is where "theology" gets itself tied in knots. This is what JD has been accusing me of for so long. Howironic that his mentor Bill would write something like this. I think Lance just repeated it to qualify something. So their Jesus must have a schism in his personality

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
Fat nancy 2001 obviously was not born of the Spirit and was most definitelynot privy to Hebrews 6:4,5 Are you Gary? On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 08:18:18 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the mindset in which you dwell is that JC ceased to be God this point is at root level, Bro:

Re: [TruthTalk] Differences

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
,,your doctrine's about like jt's ain't it-- sorta like you are amonga couple of pplwhose mind isthe God-thoughts of God, Someone with the mind of Christ thinks on God's thoughts rather than those of Bob Dylan Gary Is this a problem for

Re: [TruthTalk] Differences

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
--Isaiah's viewmakes more sense of him than yours does) On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:16:18 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Someone with the mind of Christ thinks on God's thoughts

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
re and all that - but don't bring God into your folly. The pagan Persian City of Nineveh repented at the preaching of Jonah (Luke 11:32) And what do you suppose his message to them was? From: Judy Taylor How interesting - Deb

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
of course. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 13, 2006 06:29 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel? How interesting - Debbie Sawzak is of a Calvinistic bent; because after all

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
Yes ... and Jonah was called by God andanointed to speak bythe Spirit of God.. On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:15:38 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But aren't you the one who preaches that one cannot do the works of God without the Spirit of God? jd From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
but unfortunately they did not gain eternity. On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:24:19 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And what does that have to do with the people of Nineveh? They don't have to have the Spirit to do right as long as the preacher has the Spirit? jd From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] The mystery of Judy's gospel

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
this forum can tell the rest of us what you believe. Seriously jd That's easy JD. I BELIEVE THE BIBLE -- Original message ------ From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] God is the Creator of the ppl in Nineveh also and He is merciful and

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic

2006-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
r on those numbers and get Strong's definition instantly-Great tool that I can then copy and paste from E-Sword to TT. Simply search E-Sword and download the program:-) From: Judy Taylor I do Dean and thanks so much for posting thisit is go

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?

2006-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
How interesting - Debbie Sawzak is of a Calvinistic bent; because after all it is his doctrine that claims one must be regenerated before it is possible to repent because of "total depravity" and this comes outof a misunderstanding of the spiritual realities involved. On Fri, 13 Jan

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
So Lance - And I'm curious as to why you are always quoting Debbie Sawczak, doesn't Mrs. Muir have anything interesting to contribute? What exact quality do you and "D" believe made the man Jesus divine? On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:21:30 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From:

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
d not, JT, make time for this folderol. From: Judy Taylor So Lance - And I'm curious as to why you are always quoting Debbie Sawczak, doesn't Mrs. Muir have anything interesting to contribute? What exact quality do you and "D" believe made the man Jesus divine?

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?

2006-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
I don't know what DM has to say about this but IMO Bill like your "D" has a view that is rooted in Calvinism. From: Judy Taylor How interesting - Debbie Sawzak is of a Calvinistic bent; because after all it is his doctrine that claims one must b

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?

2006-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
an Persian City of Nineveh repented at the preaching of Jonah (Luke 11:32) And what do you suppose his message to them was? From: Judy Taylor How interesting - Debbie Sawzak is of a Calvinistic bent; because after all it is his doctrine that claims one must be r

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?

2006-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
about this but IMO Bill like your "D" has a view that is rooted in Calvinism. From: Judy Taylor How interesting - Debbie Sawzak is of a Calvinistic bent; because after all it is his doctrine that claims one must

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?

2006-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
rsian City of Nineveh repented at the preaching of Jonah (Luke 11:32) And what do you suppose his message to them was? From: Judy Taylor How interesting - Debbie Sawzak is of a Calvinistic bent; because after all it is his doctrine that cla

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?

2006-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
d since you and Bill are so into culture and all that - but don't bring God into your folly. The pagan Persian City of Nineveh repented at the preaching of Jonah (Luke 11:32) And what do you suppose his message to them was? From:

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?

2006-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
I don't know what DM has to say about this but IMO Bill like your "D" has a view that is rooted in Calvinism. From: Judy Taylor How interesting - Debbie Sawzak is of a Calvinis

[TruthTalk] Nineveh

2006-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
pagan Persian City of Nineveh repented at the preaching of Jonah (Luke 11:32) And what do you suppose his message to them was? From: Judy Taylor How interesting - Debbie Sawzak is of a Calvinistic bent; because after all it i

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