Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-04 Thread David Miller
works very well with children. David Miller - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 12:27 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? the kind of evangelism that John approves of DAVEH: Is that a typo?

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-04 Thread knpraise
There is no "new law" JD; the law is the law.  Jesus gave a new commandment which the Promise of the Father (Holy Spirit) enables us to perform whereas the ppl under the old covenant with no supernatural help had a difficult time performing. Also the blood of bulls and goats could not cleanse the

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-04 Thread Judith H Taylor
om: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/2/2006 12:31:10 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? Heathens also buy houses and drive cars.   If you do not have a sinful nature,  Dean,  then you

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-04 Thread knpraise
31:10 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? Heathens also buy houses and drive cars.   If you do not have a sinful nature,  Dean,  then you do not need any outside help  ...  as in the Spirit.  And if you reject the Spirit's influence (whether intentionally or not

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-04 Thread Judith H Taylor
6 22:31:59 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: See comments below       - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/2/2006 12:31:10 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? Heathens also

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-04 Thread Judith H Taylor
His resurrected body is flesh and bone David but it has no blood and the man described in Revelation 1 certainly is not the one walking about in the four gospels doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil. I don't think a degree in biology equips anyone to understand all of this, no

Re: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-04 Thread knpraise
> From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: "TruthTalk" > Sent: February 04, 2006 06:52 > Subject: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? > > > > > > > > Rev.2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to h

Re: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-04 Thread Lance Muir
Quoting this Scripture does not mean nothing but, it comes pretty close. - Original Message - From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "TruthTalk" Sent: February 04, 2006 06:52 Subject: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? Rev.2:26 And

Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-04 Thread knpraise
I give power over the nations > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Dean Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > To: > > Date: 2/3/2006 9:41:14 PM > > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? > > > > > > > > > > > [Origi

FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-04 Thread Dean Moore
Rev.2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations > [Original Message] > From: Dean Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 2/3/2006 9:41:14 PM > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? >

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-03 Thread Dean Moore
cd: David did a good Job answering this already John.     - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/2/2006 5:13:25 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?   Where in NT scripture do you find the conversion

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread knpraise
And it remains a mystery.   I had asked DM waht he meant by the comment.  No response.   jd   -- Original message -- From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> the kind of evangelism that John approves ofDAVEH:   Is that a typo?   Did you instead mean to say.disapproves?Davi

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread Dave Hansen
the kind of evangelism that John approves of DAVEH:   Is that a typo?   Did you instead mean to say.disapproves? David Miller wrote: JD wrote: I do not believe in child evangelism. CD wrote: This makes me sad John. What makes this

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread knpraise
n crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me" (Gal 2.19).      - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.i

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread knpraise
.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?         - Original Message ----- From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/1/2006 8:40:22 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? You are still ble

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread Dean Moore
vid Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 2/2/2006 8:32:38 PM > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? > > John wrote: > > ... there is not a single case of child evangelism > > in the NT scriptures. I think that to be significant > >

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread David Miller
John wrote: > ... there is not a single case of child evangelism > in the NT scriptures. I think that to be significant > as relates to this discussion. Even if your premise here were true, it would only be an argument from silence that would not be very relevant. As it is, the Scriptures do g

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread knpraise
alk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? You are a riot, Judy  !   No one you know  -  not a single person you know, believes this statement:   Judy wrote:> The scriptures are not a b

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread knpraise
Yes and James Dobson was "saved" at age TWO.  No point in saving that which is not lost.   Again  --  there is not a single case of child evangelism in the NT scriptures.   I think that to be significant as relates to this discussion.    jd -- Original message -- From: "Da

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread knpraise
Yes , and James Dobson was converted at age TWO    -- Original message -- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > John wrote: > > I wouldn't mind "child conversions" if there was > > some kind of confirmation as they reached an > > adult age. > > I was converted at age

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread David Miller
Take it easy, John.  It probably was a typo.  We'll see.   David Miller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jes

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread David Miller
John wrote: > I wouldn't mind "child conversions" if there was > some kind of confirmation as they reached an > adult age. I was converted at age 5. I consider my life confirmation, but maybe you don't? It is strange theology that espouses grace the way you do, but somehow you don't believe ch

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread knpraise
You are a riot, Judy  !   No one you know  -  not a single person you know, believes this statement:   Judy wrote:> The scriptures are not a biological treatise;> they are about Jesus Christ from Genesis> to Revelation and he only has a physical flesh> and blood body for a very short time 3 1/

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread knpraise
Do you speak of the "rebuking ministry?"    To imagine that a chld actually knows what he/she is doing when told to "raise your hands if you want to come into your life."   Every kid in the house does it.    Sorry  --   that is not evangelism.   This exactly why we loose most of these kids by th

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread knpraise
See comments below       - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/2/2006 12:31:10 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? Heathens also buy houses and drive cars.   If you do not have a sinful nature,  Dean, 

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread knpraise
y.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/2/2006 2:00:44 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? I do not believe in child evangelism.    jd cd: This makes me sad John.   -- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>        

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread David Miller
Judy wrote: > The scriptures are not a biological treatise; > they are about Jesus Christ from Genesis > to Revelation and he only has a physical flesh > and blood body for a very short time 3 1/2 > years to be exact Now where do you get this idea, that Jesus only had a physical body for 3 1/2 ye

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread David Miller
CD wrote: > Sin is intentional-if the act is unintentional > there is no sin involved-similar to a young > Christian who hasn't been fully instructed- > God looks at the intent. The old saying that > "The road to hell is paved by good intentions" > is wrong. I hope you rethink this one Dean. Levi

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread David Miller
JD wrote: >> I do not believe in child evangelism. CD wrote: > This makes me sad John. What makes this even more sad is the fact that children are the ones who benefit the most by the kind of evangelism that John approves of. David Miller -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seaso

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/2/2006 8:32:06 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?     Dean writes:  . . . we were brought to His state as Christians.   And from this morning: Bill I hesitate to answer this as

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/2/2006 12:31:10 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? Heathens also buy houses and drive cars.   If you do not have a sinful nature,  Dean,  then you do not

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/2/2006 2:00:44 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? I do not believe in child evangelism.    jd cd: This makes me sad John.   -- Original me

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread knpraise
tes: So why is there no sin offering for children under the Old Law?     jd   - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/1/2006 1:19:33 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? David makes some good points, here,

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread knpraise
r own children holy. - See Dr. Lightfoot   jd   - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/2/2006 1:12:57 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? So why is there no sin offering for children under t

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread knpraise
From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/2/2006 2:42:19 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? You talkin to me?  Bill wrote the piece.   But, since you asked  --  you are the one using the term "heathen sinful nature,"  not me

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread Dean Moore
David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 2/2/2006 11:34:45 AM > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? > > cd wrote: > >>> If it [flesh] was weak show me one biblical > >>> account where it was weak-and we will > >>> di

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread David Miller
cd wrote: >>> If it [flesh] was weak show me one biblical >>> account where it was weak-and we will >>> discuss that David Miller wrote: > Here are two: > > Matthew 4:2-3 > (2) And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an > hungred. > (3) And when the tempter came to him

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/2/2006 2:53:08 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? cd:There is not doubt that the Law failed and we needed the help of the Holy Spirit to keep the Law-  Bu

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/2/2006 2:42:19 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? You talkin to me?  Bill wrote the piece.   But, since you asked  --  you are the one using the term &qu

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread knpraise
Guess again, Judy.   The point is YOU HAVE NO SCRIPTURE for your claim that men lived without sin from Adam to Moses  ...   just JudySpeak !!  You have , once again, been cuaght adding to the Word with your opinions. jd   -- Original message -- From: Judith H T

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread knpraise
ans 4:4. Agreed?!  jd               - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/1/2006 10:43:38 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?   Could you make a line-item response, similar to what  David does.  For me to respond to you, sp

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread knpraise
God for you... because even DM appears taken in by this one.   On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 20:47:15 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/1/2006 1:48:09 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God&#x

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/2/2006 1:12:57 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? So why is there no sin offering for children under the Old Law?   --    Deu 24:1

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/2/2006 1:10:53 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? Hi Dean.   I am not "oneness" as that term is used to define a particular theology.   That the

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: Judith H Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/2/2006 5:56:46 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? There is and the Passover lamb was for the whole household, including children.  judyt cd: If a young person can be

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread knpraise
Your own words contradict your theology.  You admit that the language "born of a woman" are words that proclaim the human predicament.   Any man born of woman shares in the predicament.     That the "generational curse" does not include the woman who gives birth,  well, that is just silly, or wor

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread knpraise
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So why is there no sin offering for children under the Old Law?     jd   - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/1/2006 1:19:33 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? David makes some

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread Taylor
n of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me" (Gal 2.19).      - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?       -

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: Judith H Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/1/2006 10:56:49 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? I find it quite amazing Dean that these people can just ignore scriptures like those you post below and go on a

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread Judith H Taylor
The point here is JD that they were born sinners and liable whether or not they sinned Jesus was not born a sinner.  He is the ONLY begotten of the Father; yes he had a flesh and blood body but he was not born in the first Adam.  His father is God.  judyt   On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 07:32:00 +

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread Judith H Taylor
m: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/1/2006 1:48:09 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? I John 5:20  "--  Jesus is the true God."    Making a distincti

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread Judith H Taylor
ge - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/1/2006 10:43:38 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?   Could you make a line-item response, similar to what  David does.  For me to respond t

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread Judith H Taylor
Another way of saying the whole creation is under a curse JD; do you know of any person who is not born of a woman to date JD?  However Jesus is the only one ever who is begotten by God; that makes him an exception since the iniquities of the fathers comes down by way of the male.  judyt   On

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread Judith H Taylor
: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/1/2006 1:19:33 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? David makes some good points, here, Dean.    At some point in life, Hitler had a choice.   at some

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-02 Thread Judith H Taylor
:05 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?       - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/31/2006 11:19:

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread knpraise
exception to the rule of Romans 4:4. Agreed?!   jd               - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/1/2006 10:43:38 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?   Could you make a line-item response, similar

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread knpraise
rm.    jd   - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/1/2006 8:40:22 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? You are still blending the natures of Christ, Dean. The result is mixing you up. The Divinity of Christ was in no way tainted by his h

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread knpraise
What does this mean  --  Death ruled from Adam to Moseseven over those who had not sinned and you are willing to fight over Jesushaving such a nature.   Your scripture for this.   Those between Adam and Moses did not sin.   jd           -- Original message -- From: Judith

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread knpraise
/1/2006 1:48:09 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? I John 5:20  "--  Jesus is the true God."    Making a distinction between "Lord" and "God" is to misunderstand exactly what Peter was saying when he pronounced Jesus as Lord and Messiah  (Acts

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread knpraise
Job is not alluding to what you are trying to say JD.   jt   And what is Job alluding to, Judy.   How can a man be pure when born of woman?   There is some kind of mystery in those words?  Something there that is hard to understand?   Talk is cheap, Judy.  Too bad it is also eternal.   If it (Job

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread knpraise
So why is there no sin offering for children under the Old Law?     jd   - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/1/2006 1:19:33 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? David makes some good points, here,

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread knpraise
none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.           jd   - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/31/2006 7:23:52 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? I am reth

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread Taylor
n be a big boy while you're gone and think for himself.   God's blessings,   Bill - Original Message - From: Judith H Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nat

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread Judith H Taylor
From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 6:05 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?       - Original Message - From: Taylor

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread Judith H Taylor
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 08:47:05 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Judy wrote: Christ is not the literal seed of David's genitals Bill and by your insistance that he is you have far more scripture to explain away than I do. DM: Actually, Bill does not have to explain away any Scriptur

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread Judith H Taylor
Is Job a Jew JD? Did the Jews recognize and acknowledge Christ in their generation Go through scripture and look for some "iniquities of the mothers" Why is it that men are so proud to take leadership roles except when it comes to responsibility?  Amazing!! No wonder you want to put band aids o

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread Judith H Taylor
;Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/1/2006 1:48:09 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? I John 5:20  "--  Jesus is the true God."   

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread Judith H Taylor
avid Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 01, 2006 09:32 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? ROTFLOL!  Do you think Judy understands your comment?   David Miller. - Original Message - From:

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread Judith H Taylor
Why must you insist on making distinctions that are nowhere in the text of scripture. Ephesians 2 describes perfectly what a fallen nature looks like - and it automatically makes one a child of wrath. Death ruled from Adam to Moses even over those who had not sinned and you are willing to fight o

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread Dean Moore
> [Original Message] > From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 2/1/2006 4:57:54 PM > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? > > cd: > > Leave to a church of God member > > to being up Acts 2 :-) > > :-) Except, I&#x

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/1/2006 10:43:38 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?   Could you make a line-item response, similar to what  David does.  For me to respond to you, specifi

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/1/2006 8:40:22 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? You are still blending the natures of Christ, Dean. The result is mixing you up. The Divinity of Christ was in no way taint

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread Dean Moore
> [Original Message] > From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 1/31/2006 1:13:01 PM > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? > > cd wrote: > > If it [flesh] was weak show me one biblical > > account where it was weak-a

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/1/2006 1:19:33 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? David makes some good points, here, Dean.    At some point in life, Hitler had a choice.   at some poi

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/1/2006 1:48:09 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? I John 5:20  "--  Jesus is the true God."    Making a distinction between "L

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread knpraise
Cool.   I'll add this to that 10% I keep talking about.     Turn about is fair play  --   your comments to Judy have been noteworthy.    jd   -- Original message -- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > JD wrote: > > "Sinful nature" is not "sinning nature." > > Excel

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread David Miller
cd: > Leave to a church of God member > to being up Acts 2 :-) :-) Except, I'm not a church of God member, and haven't been since 1987. CD wrote: > I think it is a good passage that I agree with David. > Christ came from the loins of King David as God > swore with an oath-and you point? The poi

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread Dean Moore
> [Original Message] > From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 2/1/2006 9:04:04 AM > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? > > Dean wrote: > > Then how can can the Second Adam be > > the same as the first? > > He&#

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread David Miller
JD wrote: > "Sinful nature" is not "sinning nature." Excellent point, John. A sinful nature provides a source of temptation, but it is not synonymous with the idea of a sinning nature, a nature that must sin despite whatever we think, say, or do. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread knpraise
    jd   - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/31/2006 7:23:52 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? I am rethinking that as Christ said only God is good-I now find that one piece is sweeter than the other-but

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread Lance Muir
Hypothetical?? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 01, 2006 13:08 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? The union is hypostatical, i.e., is personal

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread knpraise
David makes some good points, here, Dean.    At some point in life, Hitler had a choice.   at some point in time, Hitler was not the devil we know him to be.   At some point in time,  he was as innocent and impressionable as your children.    If there ever was a contrast in response to our Adami

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread knpraise
: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 6:05 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?         - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/31/2006 11:19:39 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God&#

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread knpraise
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> IFO DO NOT HATE JUDY nor anyone else on TT. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 01, 2006 08:12 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?         - Original Message - From:

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread knpraise
  His death on the cross  took that condemnation away.        jd           - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/31/2006 9:57:58 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? Heb 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behooved him to be made

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread Lance Muir
She may think about it NOW, David. - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 01, 2006 09:32 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? ROTFLOL!  Do you think Judy understands your comment?  

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread knpraise
No conflict for me.   Again, you are not reading posted messages  -- just reacting to them.  No point responding to comments that have nothing to do with what I wrote.   :-)   jd   -- Original message -- From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> No JD Billy T has not s

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/1/2006 8:37:04 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? Dean, I don't think you are misreading; and I do think we are saying the same thing which is that Jesus di

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread knpraise
Aaaa, another scripture that does not go to the discussion.   The fact of the matter is this,  in using that scripture I am illustrating the consideration that was the preveailing thought in Jewish thinking concerning what you call "the generational curse."   That Christ was born of a woman ma

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/1/2006 8:02:21 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? Is 'jeez' on a par with the 'F' word, DM? cd: :-) - Original Message - From:

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread David Miller
ROTFLOL!  Do you think Judy understands your comment?   David Miller. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? "S

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread Lance Muir
Stereotype, David? I have the greatest respect for you, your family and your ministry! I do have a little fun from time to time, David. . - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 01, 2006 09:06 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread David Miller
, February 01, 2006 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? DM says of Judy, 'your interpretation'! As he placed himself alongside JT on the 'inspiration/illumination' thingy then, once again I commend him for recanting. - Original Message

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread Lance Muir
Amen, David! - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 01, 2006 09:03 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? Dean wrote: Then how can can the Second Adam be the same as the first? He's not. Jesus

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread David Miller
Dean wrote: > Then how can can the Second Adam be > the same as the first? He's not. Jesus was unique because of his spirit, not his flesh. Dean wrote: > You guys are stating that Christ was no > different than Hitler Not true. Dean wrote: > but Hitler was the same as the first Adam > "exactly

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread Lance Muir
"STUDY HELPS??" Hello? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 01, 2006 08:35 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? Dean, I don't think you are misreading; and I do thi

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread David Miller
Judy wrote: > Christ is not the literal seed of David's > genitals Bill and by your insistance that > he is you have far more scripture to explain > away than I do. Actually, Bill does not have to explain away any Scriptures at all. However, you have the problem of Acts 2:30. There are other pas

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread Taylor
alloy view of Jesus; it can only confuse you.   Bill - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 6:05 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?       - Ori

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dean, I don't think you are misreading; and I do think we are saying the same thing which is that Jesus did not come into this world with a heathen sin nature.  Sin is not just an action. When we receive an occult thought and accept it as ours we are on our way to the action; the scriptures say tha

Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?

2006-02-01 Thread Lance Muir
, 2006 08:06 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature? Judy wrote: David, I don't see the immaculate conception and the assumption of Mary as divinely inspired ideas; both are the thinking of religious spirits through men of the cloth. I'm glad to hear that, but histor

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