me one who in the early 1700s apparently won Alexander Hamilton to Christ when he was a teenager in the
West Indies? izzyFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin DeeganSent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 3:52
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I too should like to hear David's response to
this.
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David , in other posts
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From: Debbie Sawczak
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The TFT quote is apropos. I am appreciating the way Victor
uses the word 'logic' to mean something similar to what 'logos' means as used by
TFT below
played an enormous role in early
mentoring of Alexander Hamilton, and I think brought him to know Christ.
Izzy
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The TFT quote is apropos. I am appreciating the way Victor uses the word 'logic' to mean something similar to what 'logos' means as used by TFT below; it is always the logic of something, that is, peculiar to somethin
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I think David might say, It IS logical, all of it -- we just don't know
all the facts as of yet.
I would think all our discussion about logic as applied to the knowing
No. Thanks for the information.
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Deegan
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Lance have you attended these meetings?
http://politicsofthecross.blogspot.com
own brand of Theocracy?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. Thanks for the information. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 18, 2006 21:06 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] torrance.Lance have you attended these meeting
Of course! I'm hoping to be appointed
King.
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This stuff looks like it is right down your alley and in your
nieghborhood
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09:00
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
torrance.
Sent: March 19, 2006 08:15 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] torrance.This stuff looks like it is right down your alley and in your nieghborhood! Are you a 21st Century Friend? Do you also believe in the Emergant Church? Are these guys nothing more than there "Politically" active
No, Lance. You are misapplying things you have read. Based on my reading of Torrance, I'm with him on this one. I believe God operates with logic,--- dm
Demonstrate that you and Torrance are 'as one' on this point, David. My goodness but you esteem yourself highly ("I don't expect you
David , in other posts of the day, I find you saying that yoou and Torrance are in agreement concerninglogic. I may ahve misunderstood your wording, but that was what you said according to my perspective.
Below you say this:
If you define "rationalist" in the more esoteric sense of the idea
Rationalist : Human reason experience is the Origin of Truth instead of the God of the Bible. Unwittingly making man the judge of God instead of God the judge of man.Thus the difference between Deductive vs Inductive"reasoning" as a method for Theology. Christian Thelogy comes from "Above"
No, he prefers to put up with your insults
this week. iz
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Know was just a disciple of his Mother the REFORMED CATHOLIC Calvin
http://www.newgenevacenter.org/biography/knox2.htm
Knox began as a Catholic priest
Knox became a major supporter
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I am asking the "right" question, David. Surely it is appropriate to ask such a question of one who writes as it she
myth (for one
thing, in your viewthe KJV is morebasicthanthe 'basic
axiom')
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God is the basic
axiom.
.. what,
brotherman,outside of your subjective judgmentis axiomatic about the
KJV?
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myth (for one
thing, in your viewthe KJV is morebasicthanthe 'basic
axiom')
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Kevin Deegan
: [TruthTalk] torrance
What did I say that was insulting to David or are you just
mouthing off again.
jd
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No, he prefers to put up with your insults
this week. iz
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What did I say that was insulting to David or are you just mouthing off again.
jd
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As far as I know, Torrance believed that salvation was offered to all -- not a Calvinist opinion, my dear. And you are much more the Calvinist that he.
His comments below gives us a consistent explanation of the biblical notion that man is justified apart from obedience to the law. It beats a
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As far as I know, Torrance believed that salvation was offered to all -- not a Calvinist opinion, my dear. And you are much more the Calvinist that he.
His commen
Do you understand what you are reading yourself
Lance?
The statement below "Reformed doctrine of election" is
Calvinistic
John Knox who ppl say converted Scotland was
Presbyterian (Calvinistic)
Who pray tell wrote what Torrance calls the "Scots
Confession?"
Also "unprofitable servants"
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As far as I know, Torrance believed that salvation was offered to
all -- not a Calvinist opinion, my dear. And you are
much more the Calvinist that he.
His comments below gives us
er reading of TFT a bias that will not
permit an equitable treatment of that which is there in the text of his
article.
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Do you understand what you are reading yourself
Lance?
The statement below "Reformed doctrine of election"
is Calvinistic
John Knox who ppl say converted Scotland was
Pr
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Taylor
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Sent: March 18, 2006 08:50
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] torrance.
Election rather than "justification" is the subject
here JD; why do you seek to change it?
And why is it that you and Lance can not accept
t
Why does he clearlyquote from what he does not
hold to then Lance?
Wouldn't you call this being doubleminded? His
doctrine is "Reformed" Calvinistic - same thing
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I LITERALLY cleaned my glasses, Judy. I took your
permit an equitable treatment of that which is there in the text of his
article.
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] torrance.
Why does he clearlyquote from what he does not
hold to then Lance?
Wouldn't you call this being doubleminded? His
doctrine
Taylor
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] torrance.
The promise is only nonexistent to those steeped in
unbelief and those who are "selective" aboutwhat
they will receive from
Then why do you and JD deny the obvious
Lance?
Just admit that you admire the man and accept what he
says along with the teachings of Calvin
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 09:15:22 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy:Why indeed! Because he knew the works of
Knox thoroughly. He also
In his writing below about "existential decision"
Torrance confirms Calvin's doctrine of "Total Depravity" which teaches that
fallen mankind is akin to a literal corpse and unable to make a decision that is
anything but evil .. Unconditional Election follows along with Limited
Atonement. I
Judy:What is 'The Reformed Doctrine of Election' as
T. F. Torrance understands it (not as you understand it)?
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Taylor
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Sent: March 18, 2006 09:29
Subject: [TruthTalk] torrance
In his writing
Since he quotes the Scots Confession, I would say his
understanding could be found
therein.
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 09:47:33 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy:What is 'The Reformed Doctrine of Election'
as T. F. Torrance understands it (not as you understand it)?
Until 1553 Knox was an agent of English Protestantism, like so many other
Reformed luminaries who lived in England during this period. He was influential
in the 2nd prayer book's insistence that there was no Real Presence in the
Lord's Supper. In many ways he became the model which English
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Since he quotes the Scots Confession, I would say his
understanding could be found
therein.
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 09:47:33 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Judy:What is 'Th
If anyone has expressed a belief in "total depravity," it is Judy Taylor -- what with her notion of the "generaltional curse"and all. She denies the use of phrase "total depravity" while esposing the teaching.
jd
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Lance I don't have to know everything he has ever
taught or call myself a "Torrance expert" to know
what he says in the piece you posted. We are back
to what is a dog?, what is a cat?. What is a black dog?
What is a big black dog?. I am sorry to touch
your idol Lance. all tha ttime would
You JD obviously do not understand the meaning of
either - do your homework and then we will talk. jt
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If anyone has expressed a belief in "total depravity," it is Judy
Taylor -- what with her notion of the "generaltional
Thanks for you substantive statement of fact versus opinion. But, I shall continue with my opinion in light of numerous JudyPosts in my possession.
And you did not answer Lance's question about TFT. In your words, specifically, what is Torrance's position as relates to Calvinism?I seriously do
On second thought, Judy, don't bother - as if you were going to answer the question, anyway !! Lance is correct -- if we have but a week remaining, trying to squeeze a real answer out of you on this one is not worth the effort. I will just say that you did and move on.
jd
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From what I know of the two men, it appears to me that Calvin was the better theologican and Luther the more involved pastor. They were not fully correct in their expressed theologies, but then, that just might be an impossibility for us all.
jd
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So then Judy, are we off this now? IFO do not wish
to engage you further on this.
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Taylor
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Lance
John wrote:
And you did not answer Lance's question
about TFT. In your words, specifically,
what is Torrance's position as relates to
Calvinism? I seriously do not think you know.
Prove me wrong -- that will be fine with me.
You are asking the wrong person, John. Lance is the TruthTalk
I am asking the "right" question, David. Surely it is appropriate to ask such a question of one who writes as it she knows of Torrance's "Calvinistic" belief system. Until she answers the question, why should we assume that sheknows what she is talking about as concerns the above matter?
By
: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 18, 2006 09:00 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] torrance.Why does he clearlyquote from what he does not hold to then Lance? Wouldn't you call this being doubleminded? His doctrine is "Reformed" Calvinistic -
same thingOn Sat, 18 Mar 2006 08:56:21 -0
the 22 volumes of Calvin's NT commentaries. Like all of redeemed humanity Judy, some of what persons say is worthwhile.- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 18, 2006 09:00 Subject: Re: [Truth
In the recent article posted by Lance from Torrance, the theologican says this:
"Nowhere is this more apparent than in the case of the popular minister where everything centers on him, and the whole life of the congregation is built round him. What is that but Protestant sacerdotalism,
He also says this:
But the Scots Confession laid the axe to the root of any such movement when
it insisted that we have to spoil ourselves even of our own
regeneration and sanctification as well as justification. What is "axed"
so radically was the notion of "co-redemption" which in our day
I would be interested in a response to the last question of this post. Fine tune the remark or correct it, if you will. Jd-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 23:41:49 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Torrance and the Message
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The book is better than the CD,
I think. Mediation of Christ
In his opening words, Torrance speaks ofunconditional grace,
hoping to put the response of
man (repentance) into perspective.Unless I misunderstand this
author, and more importantly, the
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The book is better than the CD, I think. Mediation of Christ
In his opening words, Torrance speaks ofunconditional
is no more a sinner than you or I. I
really do not understand your point.
Jd
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Amen Terry! Even the preacher St. David is a sinner.
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Message
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The book
No arguement. ALL have sinned.
Lance Muir wrote:
Amen Terry! Even the preacher St. David is a sinner.
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August 28, 2005 09:46
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Yes I did say that. My primary point had little to do with the preacher. Just checking.
Jd-Original Message-From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 11:23:54 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Torrance and the Message
My point
[TruthTalk] Torrance and the Message
No arguement. ALL have sinned.Lance Muir wrote:
Amen Terry! Even the preacher St. David is a sinner.
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From: Terry Clifton
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Torrance and the Mess
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Watching FoX News. Katrina is asad situation. Shepherd Smith, one of the news anchors on that network just
interviewed some (a 100 or so) spending the evening in a local bar,
partying. They are going to stay in the bar(s) and "ride" the storm
out there. Only
-- a lot of prayer needed for those in this area. Every minute I watch, I am praying.
JD-Original Message-From: Terry Clifton wabbits1234@earthlink.netTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 17:00:54 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Torrance and the Message
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Watching FoX News. Katrina
is asad situation. Shepherd
Smith, one of the news anchors
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Jackson is far enough inland that the winds will be reduced
dramatically by the time they get hit. Probably down
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No arguement.
ALL have sinned.
Lance Muir wrote:
Amen Terry! Even the preacher
The book is better than the CD, I think. Mediation of Christ
In his opening words, Torrance speaks ofunconditional grace, hoping to put the response of man (repentance) into perspective.Unless I misunderstand this author, and more importantly, the biblical message, itself, even our response is
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG>Sent: April 28, 2005 06:49Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Torrance Judy wrote: Scripture teaches that we are saved by receiving the ingrafted Word .. Gary
wrote: myth You are so very wrong on this Gary. Read James 1:21: &quo
Just for the record - no response from Miller. I know he responded but I did not get it -- someone repost, please. Regarding the radicals in the Boston Church of Christ and its 100 plus congreations and the the C of C with its 3 million or so members.
JD
apparently
DavidMsWord is engrafted, too--in jt's mind
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keep in mind that
jt's 'receiving the ingrafted Word' has nothin' to do with James, nor with
JC[;]
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Don't you believe there is anyone else who sees these
thingsas I do Lance?
Do you believe me to be an aberration?
jt
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writes:
I joi
Roseanne has moved on but, her pithy aphorisms
remain.
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Taylor
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Don't
.
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Lance, what is your
solution to that dilemma when it occurs? Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED
Judy wrote:
Scripture teaches that we are saved by
receiving the ingrafted Word ..
Gary wrote:
myth
You are so very wrong on this Gary. Read James 1:21: ... receive with
meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
Gary wrote:
[biblical salvation involves receiving the
I say 'tomato', you say 'apple'. Ships passing in the night. They ain't
never gonna bump into one another, IMO.
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Judy wrote
Why not Lance, please tell me what is wrong with James
1:21? Do you have a better way?
It's all about"Cleansing your hands you sinners
and purifying your hearts you doubleminded"
You know the Church is betrothed to Christ - (not
married yet) and the Church He will look for
at His returnis
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I say 'tomato', you say 'apple'. Ships passing in the night. They ain't
never gonna bump into one another, IMO.
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Sorry--JT's post!
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Well, that was quite a remarkable treatise on Lance's
Debbie writes:
Another "bicameral" statement madeon
TTis thatlove is the sum of the commandments.
I love "disobedient people" better when I focus on
God's unquenchable love for us. Where else could our love come from?
Just focusing or
visualizing love or the "incarnation" will not make
27, 2005 3:31
AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Torrance
Debbie writes:
Another "bicameral" statement madeon
TTis thatlove is the sum of the commandments.
I love "disobedient people" better when I focus
on God's unquenchable love for us. Where else could ou
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:55:25 -0400 "Debbie Sawczak" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy, when I say "focus" I'm not talking about
visualization or concentration.
Hi Debbie:
Sure am glad to know that
I'm talking about staking my life on the fact
that God loves us, letting
Debbie
Interesting you should say this,
David, because some of us (well, OK, I!) have written previously that we won't
be through with sin until our salvation is complete, i.e., until the
resurrection; we're part of a groaning creation. That's one reasonI am
rather incredulous about your
myth [biblical salvation involves
receiving the Kingdom of God in Christ who died at the hands of corrupt rivals
tohis Throne where afterwards (e.g.) Stephen saw him 'standing'
alone at 'the right hand of God' (Acts 7:56) FTR, in biblical thought
there is no 'ingrafted Word', obviously a
What was it the Little Red Riding Hood said
regarding Grandmother's teeth?
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myth [biblical salvation involves
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myth [biblical salvation involves
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rivals tohis Throne where afterwards (e.g.) Steph
Is there some reason why you do not believe James 1:21
to be Truth? jt
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myth [biblical salvation involves
receiving the Kingdom of God in Christ who died at the hands of corrupt rivals
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Torrance
Is there some reason why you do not believe James
1:21 to be Truth? jt
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myth [biblical salvation involves
What would you classify as "an issue of some substance
Lance?"
I don't go to ppl walking in unbelief and ask them to
pray for me; every American it seems says that they
pray, especially in times of trouble.
jt
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What would you classify as "an issue of some
substance Lance?"
I don't go to ppl walking in unbelief and ask them to
pray for me; every American it
I haven't a clue what you are looking for Lance; I
don't pay much mind to hypothesis and/or the
hypothetical and I don't ask the whole world to pray
for me. What exactly are you trying to get at Lance?
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:08:39 -0400 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Are you
I join Roseanne Roseannadanna in her famous
rejoinder - 'Never mind'
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: April 27, 2005 19:19
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Torrance
I haven't
Right-O, no worries ...
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:41:37 -0400 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I join Roseanne Roseannadanna in her famous
rejoinder - 'Never mind'
From: Judy Taylor
I haven't a clue what you are looking for Lance; I
don't pay much mind to
Don't you believe there is anyone else who sees these
thingsas I do Lance?
Do you believe me to be an aberration?
jt
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:41:37 -0400 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I join Roseanne Roseannadanna in her famous
rejoinder - 'Never mind'
From: Judy Taylor
God would convert the both of them to a third point
of view.
Debbie
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From:
Judy
Taylor
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Don't you believe there is anyone else who sees these
thingsas I do Lance? Do you believe me to
be an aberration?
Actually we do move in different worlds, not that the
cultures are that far apart but our interests most certainly are.
I wouldn't have a clue what Roseanne says or if it is
What would be the point of that since He has already
given us His POV? My personal belief is that God wants us to be in
wholehearted agreement with Him, laying all else
aside, and gathering around His Word as in Malachi and thiswill happen
before the end. jt
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Judy
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Torrance
What would you classify as "an issue of some
substance Lanc
Lance, what is your solution to that
dilemma when it occurs? Izzy
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Jt:Do you have
From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To whet your
appetite for more, I share the following from Torrance's book, "The Mediation of
Christ":
"All through the incarnate life and activity of the Lord Jesus we are shown
that 'all of grace' does not mean 'nothing of man', but precisely the
To whet your appetite for more, I share the following from Torrance's
book, The Mediation of Christ:
All through the incarnate life and activity of the Lord Jesus we are
shown that 'all of grace' does not mean 'nothing of man', but precisely
the opposite: all of grace means all of man, for the
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