This is mainly for Stewart (ChemE) due to his hypothesis that pulsed Doppler
radar is damaging coral reefs, but thought the Collective might like to see
it as well.
http://www.biosciencetechnology.com/news/2015/10/scientists-major-coral-blea
ching-crisis-spreads-worldwide
-mark iverson
is present. Could
be connection as to the missing neutrons in LENR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0Qrn-jrbfE
First part is some history. starts to get interesting at ~10 mins into the
talk.
-mark iverson
Don't think this is relevant to LENR, but thought I'd transfer the knowledge
into the Collective in case it triggers something.
http://phys.org/news/2013-10-method-stronger-nickel.html
-mark
steels
http://web.brasimone.enea.it/mat/hydrogen/hydindex.htm
What happens when embrittlement occurs in a metal???
Can you say, NAE??? ;-)
Jones... race ya to the bottom of this hole!
J
-Mark Iverson
attachment: winmail.dat
, and other experiments should also confirm the findings.
However, if no errors are found in the theory and the NIST experiment is
correct, some physics outside of QED must be present.
-Mark Iverson
.
sarcasm ON
Obviously they don't know how to make simple measurements, and must be
engaged in a massive instance of self-delusion/group-think, or the grandest
conspiracy to maintain their funding.
Makes LENR look like small potatoes.
sarcasm OFF
-Mark Iverson
No, it isn't LENR, but it does use Deuterium as a fuel. and RF energy to
heat the fuel.
Small, simple (relatively speaking) and scalable. and commercial by 2025.
Nuclear Fusion in Five Years?
http://www.engineering.com/DesignerEdge/DesignerEdgeArticles/ArticleID/5388/
FYI: this forwarded to me by a colleague.
-Mark
Trouble with Maxwell's Electromagnetic Theory:
Can Fields Induce Other Fields in Vacuum?
http://vixra.org/pdf/1206.0083v5.pdf
Abstract
The purpose of this article is to point out that Maxwell's electromagnetic
theory,
believed by the
Researchers devise a means to control chemical reactions in individual
atoms
http://phys.org/news/2012-07-chemical-reactions-individual-atoms.html
They're getting closer to doing the experiment I suggested over a year ago.
In their experiments, the team used a magnetic field to isolate
Life imitating Art, or vice-a-versa?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Person_of_Interest_episodes
http://www.cbs.com/shows/person_of_interest/episodes/
Title: Anomaly Detection at Multiple Scales (ADAMS)
Description:
The Anomaly Detection at Multiple Scales (ADAMS) program will
I know both of these effects are found in very cold samples, and what
possible relevance could they have for LENR???
Well, in ordinary condensed matter I would say NONE, but H/D-loaded metal
lattices are NOT ordinary condensed matter. There could likely be small
localized regions where
FYI:
http://phys.org/news/2012-04-carbon-nanotubes-weird-world-remote.html
This is a new phenomenon we're observing, exclusively at the nanoscale, and
it is completely contrary to our intuition and knowledge of Joule heating at
larger scales-for example, in things like your toaster, says
Guys, can you please move any further discussion about web-tools to
vortex-B???
-Mark
From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson [mailto:orionwo...@charter.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 5:35 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Requesting recommendations on Web Authoring tools
on their
sides at various inclinations described in the figure by the angles phi and
theta. In this way, the researcher can tune the interaction-force on demand.
end excerpt
I wonder if they can do this with just a single atom, of any flavor?
-Mark
From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
It is most likely a phishing expedition!
I've been in the Collective for several years and have *never* seen that
kind of msg from eskimo.com (the domain where this mail-list is hosted).
Any emails asking for username/password should be ignored! Legit companies
will never ask you to
Just fwding this from zt. it went to my personal email but could be of
interest to the Collective.
-mark
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=vitl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fvatl
yvietnam.org%2Fforum%2Fshowpost.php%3F%26p%3D83599%26postcount%3D6
Then there is the problem that energetic particles may be oriented in a
particular direction, so where do you place your detector? It probably
depends somewhat on the geometry of the core, and the orientation of its
physical structure. If you have the resources, obtain multiple detectors
and
of bias current and charge buildup that
would be interpreted as a positive hit by the electronics. I could reversed
the polarity but that does not remove the charge buildup problem. Not sure
if this would work. More experiment is required.
- Original Message -
From: Mark
Kewl!
And so kind of them to name it after this forum!
:-)
-Original Message-
From: Ron Wormus [mailto:prot...@frii.com]
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 11:18 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:A new use for the Vortex ... Vortex Radio Waves
Really creative!
New picture of atomic nucleus emerges
http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-03-picture-atomic-nucleus-emerges.html
.a quarter of the nucleons in a dense nucleus exceed 25 percent of the
speed of light, turning the picture of a static nucleus on its head.
Hell, I could have told then that!
These comments are interesting:
In response to your recent query, Fallin wrote, while I won't discuss
details of our internal decision-making processes, I will confirm SPAWAR
plans no further low-energy nuclear reaction (LENR) research. There are
other organizations within the federal government
Daniel:
As DGT has stated SEVERAL times, is it up to the visiting entities, NOT DGT,
to release test results!!! You are not reading things correctly.. perhaps
because English is not your native language. Those entities, if they CHOOSE
to release the results, will very likely do it via the
Just some interesting science.
http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-02-electron-detection-breakthrough-unleash-
next-generation-technologies.html
The researchers discovered that by shining light from a high-power laser
onto a material that contains moving electrons, light of a different color
The key wording is here:
A heated semiconductor light-emitting diode at low forward bias voltage
VkBT/q is shown to use electrical work
*to pump heat from the lattice to the photon field.*
It is converting *heat* energy to light. not electricity-to-light!!!
Thus, as they *lower* the
PDF was too large, so go get U.S. Patent No. 0119825, McFarland.
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:29 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Over unity at MIT
Terry - Not sure I follow. Are you saying that virtual
I think Reality has been talking to Rich Murray!
:-)
-mark
-Original Message-
From: integral.property.serv...@gmail.com
[mailto:integral.property.serv...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 8:28 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Protestants vs Catholics
Terry,
The 21st
Noone^2 wrote:
I not a very jovial person.
Yaaa think? J
Whatever the baggage you're carrying around with you, don't you think it's
time to let it go? It does nothing by make one's life miserable and full of
drama.
-m
It's KEN Shoulders, not Ed Shoulders...
-Original Message-
From: Zell, Chris [mailto:chrisz...@wetmtv.com]
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 1:34 PM
To: 'vortex-l@eskimo.com'
Subject: RE: [Vo]:South Africa Fuel-Free Generator Report : Theory?
To explain: Ed Shoulders is not some
What was interesting in the e-catsite.com article was this:
. soon on this site I will post an article and details regarding an LANR
(lattice-assisted nuclear reaction) patent that has been translated into
English and made available to this site by its author. The patent was
originally granted
Morning Jed,
Very first impression upon seeing it was well done; simple and organized.
First paragraph summarizes its purpose, and first page summarizes the
content to be found. No BS distracting one's eye from the real info... good
job!
-Mark
From: Jed Rothwell
Frank:
Nothing I read indicates that it's a magnet motor.
It uses a 'modified' motor, and I'm sure it has magnets or electromagnets,
but nothing indicated that it was purely a magnet motor.
Please show where you got that impression.
-Mark
From: fznidar...@aol.com
Oh no. sounds like MaryYugo's brother. only worse.
Jarold, GET OVER IT!
Just wait it out like the rest of us.
Or, get some people and equipment together and try to replicate it like a
few of us.
If it makes you feel good, just call it a fraud and move on. nothing to see
here.
Terry the interrygator asks:
How old is your hotmail account?
Good question!
Enquiring minds want to know...
But being the well seasoned troll that MY is, he probably has several
alter-egos so when one of them is banned, and questions arise as to when #2
started, as is the case here, he can
Jones:
FYI: your intuitive ruminations about the a.m.u and nuclear masses not being
all that 'constant' just might prove insightful! In his latest paper,
Hagelstein mentions that excited nuclei have differing masses. The problem
he has encountered is that traditional models for condensed matter
The key phrase in the abstract is:
In the resulting model, there appears a new term in which nuclear
transitions
are coupled to lattice vibrations.
I wonder if Hagelstein has been reading Znidarsic's work?
:-)
-m
-Original Message-
From: David ledin
Axil wrote:
There are many new quantum mechanical experiments done recently that show
how quantum wells transfer coherence between quantum particle types of all
kinds. I just saw one where a photon can spin a tiny quantum wheel...light
to mechanical energy.
Here's the reference:
images show
X-like nanowires lying flat
against the substrate with fused joints.
-Mark
From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net]
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 11:40 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:MIT suggest new physical model for condensed matter
Axil
And those of you on both sides of this, including Dr. Schwartz, failed to
see/acknowledge that the 'claims' that Krivit was reporting were QUOTES from
OTHER LENR researchers (WL???).
For example:
[researcher#1]
New Energy Times had received a tip from a LENR researcher that the gain
was 18
Don't understand the confusion.
The LEFT half of the chart has the word 'CONTROL' written above it in BIG
letters, the RIGHT half has NANOR above it; NANOR being Schwartz's acronym
for his version of LENR technology. The traces look to be continuous (i.e.,
from the same sensors), thus, he
Oops!
Jones corrected my error where I said...
and the three charged leptons (i.e., electron, muon and tau) each have
integer spin.
I meant to say *half-integer spin*...
Thx Jones!
-Mark
From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net]
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 9
Robin comments on Heisenberg Uncertainty applied to remote viewing:
I am beginning to suspect that there is a Heisenberg uncertainty aspect to
remote viewing. The more clearly something is seen, the less is known about
where or when it is. :)
I think this could also apply to Rossi's progress
Jones:
Just adding to the 'clues'... this from my posting Dec.17, 2011.
Look for phi-ratios in the numbers...
-Mark
=
Golden ratio hints at hidden atomic symmetry
Jan. 7, 2010
Courtesy Helmholtz Association of German Research Centres and World Science
By tuning the system the
Food for thought...
I'm looking at wikipedia's List of elementary particles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_particles
and all Quarks and Leptons have an opposite (antiwhatever)...
and the three charged leptons (i.e., electron, muon and tau) each have
integer spin.
I would argue,
Bill:
Don't know if you're aware, but MY's true identity has been determined...
It started with a discovery by Robert Leguillon in this post:
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg62551.html
And Terry added some additional thoughts in subsequent posts...
The discourse has
Daniel:
Without getting an explanation from the source, i.e., a Sumerian scribe, how
do we know FOR SURE what the PROPER meanings should be in those
'dictionaries'??? The meanings that ended up there are LIKELY influenced by
what the current thinking is on cosmology and other scientific fields
The thread subject was:
Mass media exposure kills SPAWAR cold fusion research
It was initiated by Jed in this posting:
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg59243.html
Note that Jed misspelled SPAWAR (SAPWAR) in the opening sentence...
With further comments here:
Jones:
You might want to follow this thread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg35942.html
The quote from the PhysOrg article which starts the thread is this:
So you have one set of data that tells you the mass-dependence picture
doesn't
work and another that tells you the
David:
Who knows what Rossi is using for the heating elements! J Things change on a
weekly basis with him…
IIRC, earlier last year, Rossi said they used a “Programmable Lighting
Controller”… PLC. However, that acronym has different meanings; to most in the
USA, PLC stands for
-
From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint mailto:zeropo...@charter.net
zeropo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, Feb 1, 2012 4:23 am
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Name that tune
David:
Who knows what Rossi is using for the heating elements! J Things change
JoJo wrote:
Axil, Please, by all means keep the speculations and the embarrassing
experimental advice coming. I have learned a lot from you and many other
people here. Vortex has been the most useful forum as far as gaining
insight into replicating Rossi.
And PeterB wrote:
I have only been
Lou:
I looked at the subject lines of the author's other papers and it seems he's
focused on ball lightning... and it may be relevant.
The other thing that comes to mind are 'charge clusters' which came out of
Ken Shoulders' and Hal Puthoff's research. Try searching for 'charge
clusters' and/or
So MaryYugo was still using HIS female-sounding pseudonym instead of HIS
real name???
HE must think we're really stupid. is HE not aware of the fact that HIS
identity has been clearly established???
Randy, send me HIS response and I'll look it over.
-Mark
From: Randy Wuller
Giovanni/Daniel:
I just want to thank you both for taking time to analyze carefully the W-L
paper.
We could use more theoretical types in the 'Collective'.
-Mark
From: Giovanni Santostasi [mailto:gsantost...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:06 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
There seems to be the assumption that the video is an example of their
latest and greatest level of heat generation! I may have missed it, but
there is no such statement by DGT to that effect... it is just an example of
*some* testing going on.
Unfortunately, this smacks of the same kind of
Equation for Light Leptonic Magnetic Monopole and its Experimental Aspects
Georges Lochak
http://arxiv.org/abs/0801.2752
An excerpt from the Abstract:
Our monopoles are magnetically excited neutrinos, which leads to
experimental consequences. These monopoles are assumed to be produced by
In the first video that I watched, when the camera panned left to view the
gas cylinder on the floor, they blurred out the vid shortly after the tank
came into view... so are they conscious of what gets onto a video??? Yes...
-mark
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene
]:A huge Rossi (bad) thing to be revealed soon. (Daniele
Passerini)
--- On Sat, 1/28/12, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
As the one who 'rode her ass' a number of times, I have said that her
(his) technical criticisms were WELCOME... but to lay off the focus
Abd:
Yes, you did indeed miss something... You are really out of touch with what
went on, and WHY she was ultimately banned...
Tell you what... you go back and read ALL 900+ of her (his) postings since
only 11/10/2011, and then tell me that you still think that! Out of those
900+ postings, I
Agreed, 110%...
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:01 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A huge Rossi (bad) thing to be revealed soon. (Daniele
Passerini)
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Andre Blum
Morning guys!
Yes, the state-space involves numerous variables, and their interactions
(e.g., CONstructive vs DEstructive interference)... trying to model it,
understand it, and then control it will likely be a monumental task. The
complexity of the problem, and it's sensitivity to precise
RE: Jones 'the color of vortex'
The video dude says:
I am building Kapanadze type coils and modulating them with audio waves
with multiple harmonics
So, he is modulating the coil with audio-frequencies (20Hz to 20Khz???), and
the bulb is somewhere in the circuit containing the K-coil(s)??? Have I
UV component now, which was
absent before.
_
From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
RE: Jones 'the color of vortex'
The video dude says:
I am building Kapanadze type coils and modulating them with audio waves
with multiple harmonics
So, he is modulating
Check out his youtube channel,
http://www.youtube.com/user/magnetvortex
and some of the comments on the lower-RH side, including link to this pdf.
http://www.free-energy-info.com/VladimirUtkin.pdf
-mark
_
From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo
Sounds like a horny cricket likes the warmth of his ham-shack!
J
My dad was a ham. W6PXZ.
Good memories.
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:37 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Chirping sounds in nature
From: jean guy moreau
Jean:
Do a web-search for Myron Evans.
He was a very prolific scientist/mathematician, and published quite a number
(over 100) of papers.
One topic he did considerable work on was RF-induced fermion resonances
using *circularly-polarized* RF, and I think there were also papers on
pulsed RF.
I was reading the abstract for
Anomalous mass of the neutron, 11/21/2011
on Rossi's JONP site, and there was this phase,
The quark model (d,u,d).
Is this perhaps descriptive of the quark model's ultimate fate?
J
-Mark
:
I don't have the answer, but it was my assumption, about control.
Quiescence does not seems to be a problem with DGT according to their talk
and (more important) to their test protocol (which does talk about
continuous heat).
2012/1/24 Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
Question
Hi Steven...
Think the most likely explanation is that Rossi was trying to throw people off
his trail; slow them down. If the competition thinks that gammas are produced
in copious numbers, they will be looking at the wrong theoretical
explanations... he's leading the snakes down the wrong
Jones:
A few questions... I have specific reasons for each one.
1) When you refer to the variable mass of a proton, are you thinking about
H, or protons in all elements?
2) If the mass of a proton = m_sub_p +- m_sub_v , would the variability
(m_sub_v) be less than or equal to the total mass of
FYI:
The presence of excess heat, and [near] lack of high-E particles/photons
from LENR reactions would require coupling the large amount of E into the
lattice vibrations (phonon modes) instead of into gammas (photons) or
particles (neutrons and subsequently, dead grad-students). The article
I was under the impression that the physical shape of Rossi's core was
similar to what was used in DGT's Hyperion? More of a low-height,
rectangular shape...
-m
-Original Message-
From: Alan J Fletcher [mailto:a...@well.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 4:14 PM
To:
Dear Giovanni,
Your post was NOT trolling.
I am probably the one most responsible for your reticence or concern about
posting because I came down pretty hard on the trolls. and that probably has
a few of you concerned about getting the same kind of treatment. *Please
forgive me*, that is not
Sure there is.. a hip dude by the name of P. Floyd talks all about it!
Hmmm, for some strange reason, I'm feeling comfortably numb...
:-)
-Original Message-
From: Kyle Mcallister [mailto:kyle_mcallis...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 10:32 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject:
E.L.
Mr. Bill Beaty, the list founder and benevolent, and mostly absent,
dictator, shut The Collective down for ~24 hours after flushing the trolls
down the . well, use your imagination.
It is back online now and the signal-to-noise ratio is climbing fast!
-Mark
From: Energy Liberator
In the interim, while the Collective was being purged of trolls, there were
a few comments that went on thru the backup vortex, and I'd like to bring
one very insightful comment by Mr. Beene over to this, the main forum, for
posterity.
The thread was about Rossi and DGT, what the coming year
Lots of good, and *rational*, skepticism going on today.
Rossi's failure to deliver is likely due to the lack of competent experts in
the required technologies (physics, engineering), and that is probably due
to his ego and/or paranoia of someone stealing his 'secret sauce'. DGT
differs in
On 24 January 2012 19:40, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I agree that they must have a well designed and functioning control unit to
prevent meltdown.
If quiescence is a reality, and *if* it will require a scientific/QM
understanding, the I don't think any amount of 'control
and it eventually builds up to begin
melting the Ni tubercles, slowly quenching the 'active area'? If so, then
my initial thoughts don't apply and it is an engineering problem.
-Mark
From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:40 PM
To: vortex-l
was fluidizing...
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Jones:
If you are filling a bucket with water at 1 liter/min., and draining it at
0.99 l/min, it will take awhile, but will fill up and eventually overflow.
Question:
Could the quiescence
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
At 01:19 PM 1/24/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
I believe they want professional organizations.
I'm a professional! All we need to do is organize!
Oh well, so much for that idea!
Getting the Collective organized would be
.
Jones
From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
If quiescence is a reality, and *if* it will require a scientific/QM
understanding, the I don't think any amount of 'control engineering' is
going to be much help. one will need to find out the cause of the
quiescence, which is a physics problem
will not be noticed, since the depleted H2 can
still be oxidized in a chemical reaction.
Jones
From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Jones wrote:
Stated simply, quiescence involves too much depletion in the mass of the
hydrogen so that the high level of probability of tunneling is reduced. This
is where
Chan has put up a website, but there's nothing there yet. claims he's too
busy to engage in conversations.
http://chanfusionpower.chan.host-ed.me/
-m
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 3:18 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:MgH2 as
No complaints here Axil. as far as I can recall, your postings have a high
SNR, very little repetition, good links to references. Like Horace, you
tend to ignore the non-technical discussions, and seem to like working on a
theoretical understanding. That's great! As far as the 'indiscretion' is
Mary,
Certain people are not 'suggesting', Mary, they are STATING it as FACT.
That is what I object to; do you even know the difference???
You have made similar speculative statements before about me and I have
thoroughly shown how the FACTS show differently, and yet you repeat your
Shaun,
You do realize that the RFG was not used in the first several E-Cat demos,
aren't you? Oh, that's right, how could you??? Since you just swooped in and
started barfing your accusations and speculations all over the place before
doing your homework! Not unlike Mary, but at least she is a
Bill,
There are many new-comers to the Collective due to vortex-l being mentioned
on one or more of the websites covering the whole Rossi/E-Cat fiasco... and
because of that, there have been numerous requests for references, which of
course Vorts, and mostly Jed, have kindly provided links. So
@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Ampenergo's email is disabled
On 23/01/2012 5:56 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote:
Thank you Susan for triggering a major point about the so-called
skeptics, now obviously fitting the definition of 'trolls', that have
been spewing their BS for that last several days
Hi Jouni,
Don’t know if the software, which is quite old, can do what you request,
however, when the Collective’s toilet gets backed up with turds, Mr. Bill
(Beaty) comes in to unplug and flush the toilet… so, it should last for awhile.
-Mark
From: Jouni Valkonen
ChemE,
I think most of us have a healthy skepticism, especially when it comes to
Rossi, and that is always in the back of our minds, but the whole purpose is
to keep an open-mind, ask ourselves 'what if.' and run with that to see
where is leads. engage in discussions, see things from different
Now that those pesky, annoying trolls have been flushed. oh, better be
careful since my SO is of Scandanavian descent, and just loves the little
buggers.. We can get back to the fun stuff!
New class of electron interactions in quantum systems
A few thoughts come to mind.
I think this forum can put together a team that would do a great job of
testing.
I know who would NOT be a good choice:
- NOT a university that has any involvement with hot fusion, CERN, etc.
- NOT a govt agency; can't trust them to be honest, or to do it
Shaun states as fact:
He [Rossi] has been caught working with licensees to take green family
investor money despite saying he would never do this.
I think I have read all the postings so far, and Shaun was specifically
asked, I think twice, by others if there was any evidence that *Rossi*
himself
Agreed, wholeheartedly..
There was a thermocouple in the E-Cat and the highest I remember it ever
getting was ~108degC.
Anyone who claims that it was anywhere near 150 needs to provide the proof.
I don't think even Yugo would try to float that asinine suggestion. or would
you Mary?
, that *While I have no
proof*...
So when he then states as a fact, that,
He [Rossi] has been caught working with licensees...
SHAUN gets caught in an irrefutable LIE!! A fabrication!
What a friggin' hypocrite...
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net
Thx Robert, I stand corrected.
From: Robert Leguillon [mailto:robert.leguil...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 4:25 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:University testing of the E-cat question asked on Rossi
blog
During the September test (with the large steam release
.
On 23/01/2012 10:47 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote:
So here was Shaun's acknowledging the FACT that he doesn't know, or
have evidence that Rossi is even aware of the Australian licensee
(Millin):
Mark, since then I saw the slide show and other data about that event on
Millin's site.
He openly
are the facts, at this time.
-Mark
From: Mary Yugo [mailto:maryyu...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 6:08 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The 1MW container is not from old footage.
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote
Since you failed to rebut my assumption that Millin is guilty of running at
least one or more scams, obviously lying to perpetrate those scams, then is
that assumption correct?
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From: Shaun Taylor [mailto:shauntaylor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 9:01 PM
old footage.
On 1/22/12, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Mary, have you forgotten that at least one of the principles in
Ampenergo has worked with Rossi before, or was in business with him,
and if they gave Rossi $ to secure a licensing spot, so what?
So Rossi has received
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