Re: [Vo]:Rossi : customer can refill

2012-01-13 Thread Mary Yugo
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: Yes it is a BIG change. The reactor design must be VERY different. It is a good development. Go Rossi Go. It is just one more extravagant claim without one tiny shred of proof.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi : customer can refill

2012-01-13 Thread Mary Yugo
I wonder if the $10 refill includes the self destruct mechanism or if that's perhaps an extra cost option.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Vs. NASA!

2012-01-13 Thread Mary Yugo
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote: Andrea Rossi January 12th, 2012 at 5:42 PM Dear Hanz Jager: The fact that NASA is trying to copy my work honours me. But their theory is wrong. We will beat them, as well as all the other Competitors with

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Vs. NASA!

2012-01-13 Thread Mary Yugo
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:18 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Mary Yugo's message of Fri, 13 Jan 2012 14:11:08 -0800: Hi, [snip] If NASA's theory is wrong, how are they any form of competition? This doesn't compute. It does if they use the same method and get similar results,

Re: [Vo]:video from NASA about lenr (cold fusion)

2012-01-12 Thread Mary Yugo
You can reach the video from here: http://technologygateway.nasa.gov/ and it's headlined like this Feature Stories: NASA's Method for a Clean Nuclear Energy For Your Power Operated Technology This is, well... sort of weird. I wonder if anyone in NASA's PR department or higher management has

Re: [Vo]:video from NASA about lenr (cold fusion)

2012-01-12 Thread Mary Yugo
PS: What does NASA have against buses? http://i.imgur.com/PVMDi.jpg

Re: [Vo]:video from NASA about lenr (cold fusion)

2012-01-12 Thread Mary Yugo
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Randy Wuller rwul...@freeark.com wrote: I am sure this is all going to be really hard for her and the moletrap people, the possibility of an energy breakthrough goes against their dark age thinking. My advice to her and them is get used to it. What

Re: [Vo]:video from NASA about lenr (cold fusion)

2012-01-12 Thread Mary Yugo
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: MaryYugo wrote: “What do you think that video clip says of a technical or scientific nature, if anything? It's just wishful thinking without data, isn't it?” ** ** What you fail to

Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-12 Thread Mary Yugo
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 6:20 AM, David ledin mathematic.analy...@gmail.comwrote: Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if Mr Bryce, a member of the Australian Skeptics confirm e-cat work as claimed by rossi.

Re: [Vo]:Mock paper

2012-01-12 Thread Mary Yugo
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Would someone tell me if this a sincere paper? Perhaps I have grown cynical over the last year, because of Rossi's dismissal of scientific practice and the new level of secrecy surrounding LENR research, but I'm remain

Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: He is probably too old and poor to survive the years of litigation it would take to recover anything from his intellectual property – Especially since new physics must first be proven before any explanation

Re: [Vo]:LENR 'Proliferation' was: US DOE alters its stance on LENR and Rossi?

2012-01-11 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: One fact that is conveniently ignored by the ones casting suspicion on Rossi, is that he obtained his $ to finance all his work on e-Cat by selling his interest in the biofuel company, which IIRC, he was the

Re: [Vo]:Capture Drone Downed by Iranian Saucer

2012-01-11 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Capture Drone Downed by Iranian SaucerI'm not joking. I'm quoting Wired.com: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/01/iran-ufo-drone/ Why is it always a saucer? Someone, somewhere must have a surplus of cups and

Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure which Moller we're speaking of here. http://jlnlabs.online.fr/mahg/index.htm Woohoo! I was thinking of this one: http

Re: [Vo]:Storms on the Space Show

2012-01-10 Thread Mary Yugo
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: See: http://www.thespaceshow.com/detail.asp?q=1685 It's an hour of audio! Maybe someone who listened to it all can summarize what Storms had to say specifically about Rossi. Will there be a transcript at some point?

Re: [Vo]:Storms on the Space Show

2012-01-10 Thread Mary Yugo
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 1:18 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: I suspect there will be nothing... nada... zilch... that could possible result in even the slightest dent in this skeptic's heavily fortified belief structure. Nothing except an iron-clad,

Re: [Vo]:Recent advances in thermoelectrics...

2012-01-10 Thread Mary Yugo
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: And the following point… Those who argue that Rossi’s inability to produce/replicate his 30% efficient thermoelectric technology was proof of a scam, have no clue what they are talking about. If Rossi

Re: [Vo]:Forbes Survey on E-Cat

2012-01-09 Thread Mary Yugo
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Rossi's device has been tested by experts such as Kullander. Based on what he did and what he asked Rossi (or failed to ask Rossi), Kullander lost his credentials as an expert. However, to his credit, he asked for more

Re: [Vo]:Transportation energy

2012-01-09 Thread Mary Yugo
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Also -- as I pointed out -- the cold fusion motor would soon be cheaper, as the technology matures. It's really obvious: Rossi should sell the eCat on eBay! :-)

Re: [Vo]:Meter for measuring electromagnetic radiation

2012-01-08 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Numbness/tingling in the fingers and toes could also be a sign of peripheral neuropathy, often caused by diabetes. Other signs of diabetes include excessive thirst and frequent urination (probably from

Re: [Vo]:Simple, even simple-minded tests can be a great help in understanding these things

2012-01-07 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: -Original Message- There has been way too much chicken-counting here. Yet, since this is an advocacy group - its mission is not to prejudge and chastise - and this situation provide an inherent conflict in

Re: [Vo]:Simple, even simple-minded tests can be a great help in understanding these things

2012-01-07 Thread Mary Yugo
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I think you are being silly. Of course I am. I am pointing out that it's also silly to stand in a small room shivering in overcoats in the presence of a machine claimed to make (I forget the claim for that model)

[Vo]:The more Rossi writes on his blog, the less credible he becomes

2012-01-07 Thread Mary Yugo
Here is a perfect example of his tangential response style: *Q: I understand that you have been negotiating with Home Depot? Have they seen the Ecat yet? Has it been tested for them? A: We are in discussion with many possible distributors. We will give precise information when any deal will

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion posts useful information about nickel

2012-01-07 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: See: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=836 Go down several messages, to the one that begins: Every charge of a Hyperion reactor (assuming a single reactor kernel) requires approx 10gr of

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion posts useful information about nickel

2012-01-07 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: No, it is not ridiculous. You are being ridiculous, negative, and silly. Cut the crap. It is a perfectly legitimate question. The information provided by Defkalion on Ni in response to this question is very useful.

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion posts useful information about nickel

2012-01-07 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: The first thing they asked about the Fleischmann-Pons experiments was: Is there enough palladium to do this? Fleischmann answered: No, there isn't. He said that at MIT and many other places. I think he was right, as I

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion posts useful information about nickel

2012-01-07 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: I can't guarantee what a typical law maker or influential industrialist would ask first but I bet most of the thrust would be on does it work, has it been independently tested

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion posts useful information about nickel

2012-01-07 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Andrea Rossi has a patent in Italy which is enforceable in the entire EU. No. 0001387256 Rossi's patent is essentially worthless because it

Re: [Vo]:Hank Mills Weighs in on Defkalion?

2012-01-06 Thread Mary Yugo
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: That's really Hank Mills. He always posts there. Hank Mills writes favorably and enthusiastically about every impossible, incompetent or fraudulent free energy claim he can get his hands on and the web site on which he

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread Mary Yugo
One of the more extravagant and incredible (on any basis) claims made by Rossi on his blog is that he is tooling up to manufacture a million E-cats during calendar year 2012. Comments on the moletrap forum noted that: A million ECats. National Instruments stock must be going up, then. I'd like

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread Mary Yugo
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 9:16 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: If in subsequent years Rossi eCats actually DO start rolling off the shelves of stores like Home Depot I suspect MY will soon start searching around for another group (preferably linked to a

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread Mary Yugo
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.comwrote: On 2012-01-05 18:38, Robert Leguillon wrote: It seems that Rossi may have reaped the benefits associated with promises of independent university testing, but that delivery of this may never occur. Sterling D.

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread Mary Yugo
Rossi seems to have trouble even keeping track of what he writes on his own blog. Here, the device has an output of 5 kW net: 1. Andrea Rossi January 6th, 2012 at 12:10 PMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=563cpage=10#comment-165106 Mr ” Tom Jones”: Since you used (a

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread Mary Yugo
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Mary Yugo wrote: I suggest they start by asking him why he and Focardi are freezing their buns off in a room in which a running fusion reactor is present, supposedly making 10 to 15 kW of thermal energy

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread Mary Yugo
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Mary Yugo wrote: It's not a barn, it's a small room. Where is this photo? The photo I have is in a warehouse sized room. I linked the photo. I think it's the same location that Krivit described -- a small room

Re: [Vo]:Simple, even simple-minded tests can be a great help in understanding these things

2012-01-06 Thread Mary Yugo
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Mary Yugo asked a sensible question: Why are these people wearing overcoats standing next to a 12 kW heater? She then said: This is sort of a trivial matter and can't be settled for sure without cooperation from

Re: [Vo]:Simple, even simple-minded tests can be a great help in understanding these things

2012-01-06 Thread Mary Yugo
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: She’s an insignificant troll… nothing more. Was that a calculated statement? Your behavior is so intelligent and dignified statement, Mark. You should be proud of it and of yourself.

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi interview on Ca$h Flow: “I translate pressure as responsibility.”

2012-01-05 Thread Mary Yugo
Rossi-quoting wouldn't be complete without this rant which has a distinctly paranoid flavor: Andrea Rossi 1. January 4th, 2012 at 9:52 AMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=563cpage=10#comment-163127 Dear Jonatan: First of all, congratulations: to be an engineer at 21

Re: [Vo]:FYI: elements to understand rossi's behavior/problems...

2012-01-05 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.comwrote: they take the example of thermo electric device that rossi fail to industrialize correctly and demonstrate... the story they tell about TE elements is quite interesting, giving details about the failure causes

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-05 Thread Mary Yugo
Meanwhile, Defkalion promises independent testing. When? Oh... soon! http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=831

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi interview on Ca$h Flow: “I translate pressure as responsibility.”

2012-01-05 Thread Mary Yugo
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Mary Yugo wrote: Rossi views the mention of Petroldragon, a stupendously expensive and environmentally disastrous failure, That is an absurd exaggeration. A thing like that can be cleaned up without much

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-05 Thread Mary Yugo
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: Meanwhile, Defkalion promises independent testing. When? Oh... soon! They do not promise it. They hope to have it. They are a privately held business. They do not owe

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi interview on Ca$h Flow: “I translate pressure as responsibility.”

2012-01-05 Thread Mary Yugo
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure it was minor for you -- you don't live there. There have been environmental cleanup and remediation projects within a few miles of my house a lot bigger than

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion‏ - Revisited

2012-01-04 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: It is regrettable that things have been kept so confidential in cold fusion. That is because of politics and the opposition. I am sorry that I have to be so vague. Politics and opposition is a bad theory when it comes

Re: [Vo]:FYI: elements to understand rossi's behavior/problems...

2012-01-04 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:27 AM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: some IMHO interesting article to undestand Rossi's behavior... 1- analysis about why rossi don't prove e-cat so well... http://nickelpower.org/2012/01/03/why-should-rossi-prove-it/ this item raise my eyes: No

Re: [Vo]:20 kW home E-Cat LCOE

2012-01-04 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Energy Liberator energylibera...@gmail.comwrote: I wonder how long after the US certification, it will be for Rossi to get certification for Europe and the rest of the World. See, what I wonder is how long it will be before either Rossi or Defkalion prove that

Re: [Vo]:OpEdNews article on LENR, includes LENR powered space plane

2012-01-04 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 9:48 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Titled: What if Low Energy Nuclear Reaction (LENR) really works? http://www.opednews.com/articles/What-if-Low-Energy-Nuclear-by-Christopher-Calder-120103-869.html The article is filled with errors

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion‏ - Revisited

2012-01-04 Thread Mary Yugo
2012/1/4 Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net Mary Yugo stated, for the millionth time, “A much better theory is that, as Rossi says, they have nothing to show.”* *** ** ** Same old tired repetition, despite numerous requests that you avoid it. You just never learn

Re: [Vo]:OpEdNews article on LENR, includes LENR powered space plane

2012-01-04 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: MaryYugo states with such confidence, “And while they were technically hands on, all the tests used Rossi's gear and his questionable methods so they were not independent. Failure to state that is

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion‏ - Revisited

2012-01-04 Thread Mary Yugo
2012/1/4 Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net Mary Yugo stated/asked, “Same response to the same repetition of absolute nonsense about Rossi and Defkalion. You always seem to object to my response but not to the inanity that spawned it. Why do you think

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion‏ - Revisited

2012-01-04 Thread Mary Yugo
2012/1/4 Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net Others have registered their skepticism, and I don’t chastise them because they don’t do it hundreds of times a month! A tiny bit of hyperbole perhaps? I respond to others so I only do it a hundred times a month if they do it the same or

Re: [Vo]:FYI: elements to understand rossi's behavior/problems...

2012-01-04 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.comwrote: 2012/1/4 Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com What opinion is that? yours, with respect. Hi Alan, Sorry but I didn't understand the significance of the second comment and link. Perhaps you can restate or expand

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:20 kW home E-Cat LCOE

2012-01-04 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: If LENR reactions are sufficiently branded as dangerous, they could easily be banned from personal use. They might actually be dangerous. I do not think

Re: [Vo]:OpEdNews article on LENR, includes LENR powered space plane

2012-01-04 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Mary Yugo wrote: All the essential parts of the method for measuring power input and enthalpy were provided entirely by Rossi. It's true that some thermometers and in a few instances AC power meters were provided

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:20 kW home E-Cat LCOE

2012-01-04 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: And by the way, it's expensive. It is much cheaper than inadvertently irradiating hundreds of thousands of people. What's wrong with ordinary radiation detectors? Or do you think animals are used to verify that

Re: [Vo]:The biological effects of radiation are difficult to quantify

2012-01-04 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Mary Yugo wrote: And by the way, it's expensive. It is much cheaper than inadvertently irradiating hundreds of thousands of people. What's wrong with ordinary radiation detectors? You can measure

Re: [Vo]:The biological effects of radiation are difficult to quantify

2012-01-04 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: As to what is politically expedient for Levi, he'd better think of something. I suspect his career at U of Bologna is going to be curtailed some time soon unless Rossi coughs up some miracle such as $500K and a device

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi interview on Ca$h Flow: “I translate pressure as responsibility.”

2012-01-03 Thread Mary Yugo
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.comwrote: there's not much reason to doubt this could be true. Interesting way to put it. I suppose it could be true. But there is plenty of reason to doubt that it *is* true. We've been all over that ground before. And

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi interview on Ca$h Flow: “I translate pressure as responsibility.”

2012-01-03 Thread Mary Yugo
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.comwrote: Therefore, putting aside the actual content of the talks (which could have ended either positively or not), this news must in my opinion be regarded as a good one, because the more people and entities get

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi interview on Ca$h Flow: “I translate pressure as responsibility.”

2012-01-03 Thread Mary Yugo
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 10:33 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I think it would be possible to buy a stand alone space heater if the nuclear issue does not get too much attention. I guess it might be possible to purchase any safe stand alone product that does not require the

Re: [Vo]:Forbes: The Year of Cold Fusion

2012-01-01 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Inconclusive blather. The only thing you can do with inconclusive data -- like Rossi and Defkalion's.

Re: [Vo]:Forbes: The Year of Cold Fusion

2012-01-01 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 9:54 AM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: He should publicly issue a challenge to CF/LENR researchers to allow him to witness and monitor their experiments. If we learned nothing else from the experiences with Rossi, it should be that witness and monitor isn't enough.

Re: [Vo]:Jed and others 2012 predictions please

2012-01-01 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 10:03 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Mary Yugo will repent of her sins after a long pause and will become one of the best proponents of cold fusion filling all of the forums with glowing reports. Rossi will hire her as his spokeswoman since she can work

Re: [Vo]:Forbes: The Year of Cold Fusion

2012-01-01 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 11:56 AM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: Anyone who has CF/LENR tech that they are confident in would certainly be happy to have it showcased in Forbes. You'd think so. So why has it not happened? Gibbs doesn't seem in any way reluctant to write in detail about LENR

Re: [Vo]:Someone leaked my email to Randy Hekman

2011-12-31 Thread Mary Yugo
Geez, folks. If your email address is open to the world, as it is on this email list, you will get tons of spam. You should never post your email address on the internet except in the form: maryyugo [at symbol] yahoo [dot] com so that a human has to interpret it. And it is best, for purposes

Re: [Vo]:Someone leaked my email to Randy Hekman

2011-12-31 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote: Should we give away the freedom to use our real id, because of some criminal spammer? Unfortunately yes. It's not much freedom to lose. I suggest keeping your real email address strictly private. There

Re: [Vo]:Jed and others 2012 predictions please

2011-12-31 Thread Mary Yugo
in high places at the DoE or the APS choose to remain ignorant of this subject. Like Mary Yugo and Robert Park, they have made a decision to read nothing. Actually, I've read more than I ever expected to about Rossi and Defkalion and it was all unfortunately unconvincing. Perhaps they want

Re: [Vo]:Someone leaked my email to Randy Hekman

2011-12-31 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote: Gates with its sloppy operating systems is in part responsible for spam. :-) Don't be surpised, what people see as a viral attack is usually a mean to make the computers of unaware users the worst spammers

Re: [Vo]:Rossi announces a titanic step forward, how he will deal with competitors and 1m E-Cats for 2012

2011-12-28 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Add to that a scenario in which Defkalion has set up a large, expensive fake laboratory staffed by genuine experts being paid to pretend they are doing research. The whole notion is so implausible I can't imagine why

Re: [Vo]:National Security and Population Structure

2011-12-28 Thread Mary Yugo
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 2:13 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: My particular part in this effort was that I was to prototype a mass-marketable version of the PLATO network, which I did circa 1980. I won't go into the details of that network except to say that the contribution it

Re: [Vo]:Rossi announces a titanic step forward, how he will deal with competitors and 1m E-Cats for 2012

2011-12-28 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: The people who have been there can estimate that by looking. They know what laboratory equipment costs. Wouldn't it be nice if we could hear from these people directly and see photos of what they saw (within the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi announces a titanic step forward, how he will deal with competitors and 1m E-Cats for 2012

2011-12-28 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: I am trying to arrange that. It might help if you and others would stop making outrageous, baseless, ignorant attacks against them. Generally speaking, people are not inclined to share information when you accuse them

Re: [Vo]:Rossi announces a titanic step forward, how he will deal with competitors and 1m E-Cats for 2012

2011-12-28 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: Mary Yugo wrote: I don't recall accusing anyone of anything. I raise possibilities which should be very easy to knock down. You do accuse people. Cite it or don't say it. Who did I accuse and of what and where

Re: [Vo]:Rossi announces a titanic step forward, how he will deal with competitors and 1m E-Cats for 2012

2011-12-28 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.comwrote: ** On 11-12-28 08:40 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: Unless I'm greatly mistaken, you've accused a number of people of failing to exist. The only allegation of non existence I've ever made is the non-existence of a proper

Re: [Vo]:US DOE alters it's stance on LENR and Rossi?

2011-12-27 Thread Mary Yugo
Do we really know Obdenaker actually wrote the email attributed to him? Has anyone checked with NASA's PR office or anyone else there? I think it was just from a post by an anonymous poster in a fan/enthusiast web site run by a guy only known as Ben.

Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells

2011-12-27 Thread Mary Yugo
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Alberto De Souza alberto.investi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm a new member of the list, but I'm reading the posts since January. I'm addicted... If we have a large COP (10-100), I believe we can use thin film thermogenerators

Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells

2011-12-27 Thread Mary Yugo
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote: SNIPIt's been called fusion confusion. Look, Aussie Guy is anonymous, what he writes is next to meaningless. Don't mix this up with the huge corpus of work from hundreds of scientists around the world. Hi Abd,

Re: [Vo]:LENR 'Proliferation' was: US DOE alters it's stance on LENR and Rossi?

2011-12-27 Thread Mary Yugo
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 1:07 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: I You already do...in Afghanistan. ;) What do you think was the real reason for fighting the Taliban (under whom Opium production nearly died out). This isn't a good place for politics but I can't let something that stupid get by.

Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells

2011-12-26 Thread Mary Yugo
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote: I take you do not read what I have written on this subject? I try but sometimes my email client hiccups. Last I remember, you had sealed a deal with Rossi and getting a whatever-watt plant was just around the

Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells

2011-12-26 Thread Mary Yugo
Here's what Rossi wrote today (good old Rossi -- always worth a laugh): 1. Andrea Rossi December 26th, 2011 at 11:39 AMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=563cpage=7#comment-157154 Dear Francesco Fiorenzani: I hope within 2012. We must have a production of 1 million

Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells

2011-12-26 Thread Mary Yugo
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: With a small thermal excess power it's not trivial to close the loop in my opinion. Agreed it's not trivial. But I was addressing Aussie Guy who said his devices have a COP of 5 in the range of watts and

Re: [Vo]:US DoE believes in LENR after all?

2011-12-26 Thread Mary Yugo
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: Hello group, Have a read at this. I can't tell whether these emails are to be trusted or not (personally I believe they're authentic), but it appears that some individuals in the US Department of Energy

Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells

2011-12-26 Thread Mary Yugo
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 11:53 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: Nobody ever closes the loop. I think the majority of the Vort Collective understands the fact that Vorl and MY believe most CF/LENR claims are nothing more than horse manure. I

Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells

2011-12-26 Thread Mary Yugo
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: Vorl Bek vorl@antichef.com wrote: Nobody ever closes the loop. That is incorrect. Many people have closed the loop, starting with Fleischmann and Pons. In cold fusion jargon, closing the loop is called running

Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells

2011-12-26 Thread Mary Yugo
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.comwrote: On 11-12-26 02:57 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: Try responding to a real argument: if the claim, as Aussie Guy made it, is for a device with a COP of 5 over an input measured in watts, then why not close the loop? What

Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells

2011-12-26 Thread Mary Yugo
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: I suggest you stop guessing and read the literature. I suggest you stop referring vaguely to some amorphous literature and answer the question -- see below for a clarification. Cells running heat after death have

Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells

2011-12-26 Thread Mary Yugo
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: hey figure that people who do not believe calorimetry would not believe this demonstration either. They have a good point. If someone revealed a device of this nature, Mary Yugo would surely say it must be fake

Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells

2011-12-26 Thread Mary Yugo
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: I suggest you stop guessing and read the literature. I suggest you stop referring vaguely to some amorphous literature and answer the question . . . No can do. I learned

Re: [Vo]:Mathematical modeling versus a blacksmith

2011-12-26 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:13 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: OK, I will wait further for the information. It is pretty important to me to determine if it is at all possible for enough energy to be stored and then released to achieve Rossi's results. A good model such as your

Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells

2011-12-26 Thread Mary Yugo
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Arata ran a small motor with one heated by a self-sustaining gas-loaded cell. Cool! Did anyone verify this or replicate it? And how long did it run and at what output level? Why is it that specific questions as to

Re: [Vo]:US DOE alters it's stance on LENR and Rossi?

2011-12-26 Thread Mary Yugo
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: Better link: http://e-catsite.com/2011/12/26/more-helpful-e-mails-from-the-doe/ An email to Mr. X? Hah! Now we know who Rossi's anonymous buyer is. It's none other than Mr. X!!

Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells

2011-12-26 Thread Mary Yugo
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: MaryYugo asks: “Why is it that specific questions as to power output and duration are, to some cold fusion advocates, like sunshine to vampires?” ** ** And Mary, the same could be said for your

Re: [Vo]:US DOE alters it's stance on LENR and Rossi?

2011-12-26 Thread Mary Yugo
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: What no comment on this: My change of mind was a direct result of talking with Dr. Dennis Bushnell, the Chief Scientist for NASA Langley who has assured me that over 100 experiments worldwide indicate that LENR

Re: [Vo]:US DOE alters it's stance on LENR and Rossi?

2011-12-26 Thread Mary Yugo
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: Why not call Mr. Opdenaker to confirm? His phone number and email are listed. I don't want to pester him by telephone but I am thinking of sending an email. I'd rather someone from the press do it -- perhaps

Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells

2011-12-26 Thread Mary Yugo
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Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells

2011-12-26 Thread Mary Yugo
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: http://i.imgur.com/YdetE.png That was a response by Aber0der to this Alsetalokin remark: I'll buy a Mac when you can pour water in one end and make espresso with the steam from the internal iEcat out the other end. Here

Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells

2011-12-26 Thread Mary Yugo
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 5:48 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Mary, I would like very much to work with your acquaintance to see how his model compares to some of the in dept analysis I completed upon the October 6 test data. I totally understand how his model must work and

Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells

2011-12-25 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: They output greater than 1 watt with a COP greater than 5. Thermal or electrical? And if they output 5x input at a watt level, it should be almost trivial to run them on their own output. A long run without any

Re: [Vo]:We have FPE cells

2011-12-25 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: I have allocated $100k to the cell replication project. I was ready to spend $200k to buy a 100 kW E-Cat system. When Rossi is ready to provide the detailed specifications for his 330 Ac kW E-Cat, we will again

[Vo]:A new and baffling Rossi said

2011-12-24 Thread Mary Yugo
1. Italo A. Albanese December 23rd, 2011 at 7:46 PMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510cpage=39#comment-155669 Dear Andrea Rossi, could you provide some more information about the e-cat heating your factory? Power, cop, running time, temperatures? It would be

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