g that "it would never be appropriate
for the person who began a discussion to then also close that discussion,"
you replied that "English Wikipedia policies do not apply here."
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has now reneged on previous agreements to hold a final vote, presumably
because there's a concern that a final vote would result in rejection of
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I'd like to see links to Gerrit changesets and Phabricator tasks where
this new policy and its committee would help. If you want to make claims
of serious unacknowledged problems, substantiate them with evidence. This
is exactly the same burden of proof you would expect from
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or worse, constantly saying "usability" was effective, because after all,
who could be against ideas from a usability initiative? Perhaps this new
responsive skin for MediaWiki wikis needs a similar marketing strategy.
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pointed.
* https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:James_Heilman_Removal
* https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Board_of_Trustees
* https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Former_Board_of_Trustees_members
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media wikis should allow us to make wiki markup less cluttered and
should give a lot more flexibility to regular users to handle various
device sizes and constraints using Cascading Style Sheets (CSS). A big
thanks to Anomie, Tgr, and others who are helping move this
rding his upcoming appointment?
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contributions as being part of that group, instead of having "User:Herman"
and "User:Herman (WMDE)" wiki accounts. GitHub does this pretty well.
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personally used Wikimedia sites and
services for more than 15 years.
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over the course of many years to be even larger. We could be talking about $6M
or $8M or more. That's a lot of money to spend and I'm struggling to understand
what the return on investment is.
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why, given the company's role in selling an "Online Reputation Management"
product. This looks bad to me.
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>and Marriott to startups you haven't heard of (yet). ((Hopefully you'll
>be able to add Wikipedia here shortly)).
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WordPress and they were ignored. I think this type of behavior by the
communications department is really inappropriate, unbecoming, and
inconsistent with Wikimedia's values.
I also agree with Yair Rand that
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>>After many months of work by over 100 individuals around the organization
>>and movement, the Wikimedia Foundation's new website soft launched this
>>week!
>>
>>You can check it out for yourself here (you may need to
tewashed its own site, removing
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should be open to a better future. The current model of having a
very top-heavy Wikimedia Foundation Inc. headquartered in San Francisco is
bad. While we never want to conflate change with improvement, there's
plenty of room for the latter.
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>a one-year block on this site only. Anything not serious enough for a
>permanent global block by the WMF should be handled by the community or
>ArbCom. We therefore need a fuller statement, signed by an individual, as
>soon as possible. [.
and are seeking "support" and "feedback" to legitimize and
validate that predetermined decision.
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that at least one party is no longer acting in good faith.
So, no, I don't think everyone is working toward the same goals here.
Should we have a conversation about the neglected sister projects?
Absolutely.
ight misleading
or wrong. How does tricking people into thinking that Wikipedia will stop
surviving if they don't give $5 an acceptable practice?
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agencies and consultants and wasted additional hundreds of thousands of
dollars in donor money on this sham exercise.
But don't worry, highly deceptive advertising is back on the projects, in
mid-April, to ensure continued funding of this and other charades.
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now noticed your use of community-selected here. I think
sometime this year, we should hold a community straw poll on Meta-Wiki
about changing the selection to an election. I think the Board of Trustees
needs to hear from the Wikimedia editing community about this issue.
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Jimmy Wales wrote:
>On 3/5/16 3:07 AM, MZMcBride wrote:
>> I don't see it as a sign of strength to abdicate your responsibility in
>> this way.
>
>There are at least two things I disagree with about this remark - one
>that seeking the advice and participation and bu
Gergő Tisza wrote:
>On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 7:54 AM, MZMcBride wrote:
>> Removing a roof without also having a plan for an interim roof is a
>>really amateur mistake.
>
>Not really if the roof was radioactive, and on fire.
The roof didn't blow off in a storm; it was str
ading and re-uploading our data to the Web, exactly
as we mandated that anyone be able to do. With multiple copies of the data
on the Web, we're better ensuring that the content lives on in perpetuity.
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>is only the most recent and prominent example illustrating that the
>audience is there.
This is somewhat tangential, but
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Temple-Wood> exists now. I personally
find this to be both unfortunate and po
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>> My understanding is that the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
>>sought out and then appointed a tech-minded chief executive, who came
>>from a tech organization, in order to "transform" the Wikimedia
&
ta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=15578608&oldid=15578561>.
The reply is vaguely related to the vacant seats; I imagine its contents
will be of interest to this list.
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>compensation from it.
I can't help but think about the tempestuous past year that the Wikimedia
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>this is an update on the work of the Board Governance Committee over the
>last months that some of you have requested.
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Letter.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 15:55, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
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There are some notes here: <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/?curid=428113>.
Any effort to expand these notes would be welcome.
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* https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T29242
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This was an excellent reply and read. Thank you!
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section?" on the talk page, I suppose:
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_Conduct/Draft>.
It's plain to see in discussions like this that every support vote came
from Wikimedia Foundation employees or employees of another Wikimedia
affiliate (WMDE and WMFR). The opposing v
he previous Executive Director resigned
after being forced out by her staff. In the context of the recent history,
this resolution is all the more puzzling.
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policies across Wikimedia wikis
and the Board of Trustees has now greatly expanded the group of people who
can alter global policies. This is a pretty big and sudden shift.
To Lodewijk's point about consultation and notification, was/is the Board
of Trustees planning to an
hese files
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At least the recent blog post was signed by Katherine. That's better than
some of these other essays.
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ikely inappropriate for this mailing list. Your recent medium.com,
cnbc.com, and aol.com links all fail this test.
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Andy Mabbett wrote:
>On 3 February 2017 at 00:00, MZMcBride wrote:
>> I guess this is referring to
>> <https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/01/30/knowledge-knows-no-boundaries/>.
>
>There were speakers and delegates at Wikimania 2012, in Washington DC,
>who would not have
to keep track of them. These two templates are decent
attempts: <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Affiliates> and
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Affiliations_Committee>.
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The Wikimedia Foundation already hosts over 800 wikis. Maybe you can
explain why you feel you need your own wiki instead of using an existing
one or setting up your own test wiki on Labs or using a service like Wikia?
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it's time for dessert. And even when many people do
agree that it's time for dessert, not everyone agrees with having pudding.
Or the flavor of the pudding. Or the means used to make and eat it.
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siness of trying to retroactively
justify this misfeature's existence, in my opinion.
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ing completely implausible and absurd scenarios.
In the case of a compromised admin account, did you seriously just suggest
that stewards would try to go around randomly super-protecting pages
instead of simply removing admin rights from the compromised
Forwarding this to wikimedia-l as it doesn't seem to be very technical in
nature, but definitely seems worthy of discussion.
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Danny Horn wrote:
>For a while now, the Collaboration team has been working on Flow, the
>structured discussion system. I want to let you know
alternately, a good explanation
for why the previous work has failed and what will be better next time.
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ilure to
deliver. Consequently, it seems most prudent to be asking what went wrong
and how it will be better next time. The underlying reality is that we
still need a better on-wiki discussion system and it now looks like
neither LiquidThreads nor Flow are going to be it.
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case, saying that planning for Montreal
started in 2010 for an eventual 2017 bid. However, you continue on to
write that it's wasted effort if a bid fails in a particular year.
Wouldn't failed bids be re-usable in subsequent years?
My guess is that sponsors a
d self-updates daily with new recorded events.
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volved in organizing and running
this year's conference! I really enjoyed being able to have the National
Archives as the venue and the conference itself was well-run and engaging.
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invaluable amount of good to Wikimedia, but that mis-feature was
unequivocally bad. Personally, I think it was more of an albatross than a
red herring. ;-) Good riddance.
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he's been trolling a
few Wikipedia-related IRC channels on freenode. Such productivity. :-/
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Wil Sinclair wrote:
>Thanks for bringing me up, MZMcBride; should get a lot more people to look
>at those IRC logs I was hoping to bring to everyone's attention.
I'm looking forward to your posts about the current and upcoming Wikimedia
Foundation strategic plans. That'
ndertaken both
>strategic and annual planning, and the WMF’s approach to budget
>transparency (or lack thereof).
Sort of inline with the first question, but perhaps more direct: what
power does the Funds Dissemination Committee have over the amount of donor
money allocated toward the Wikime
tion asked. :-) Wikimedia Deutschland : Wikidata ::
Wikimedia Foundation : Wikipedia, right? If one organization is expected
to separate out costs for its largest technical project, shouldn't the
other be as well?
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Dariusz Jemielniak wrote:
>On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:37 PM, MZMcBride wrote:
>>Or from a different angle: how is the Wikimedia Foundation budget
>>allocated? Does the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees currently do
>>its own direct allocation, bypassing the FDC?
>
>
Amir Ladsgroup wrote:
>The subject is self-explanatory (also I have this suggestion for
>blog.wikiquote.org and other projects as well)
>
>What do you think?
Hi.
Why? The request is self-explanatory, but the uses and use-cases are not
s culled in April 2015.
Anyway, we certainly have the technical capacity and capability to add
more redirects. We already support a ton of them (donate.wikipedia.org,
careers.wikipedia.org, textbook.wikipedia.org, etc.), the question is
whether we want to add a small number of redirects to t
s as
>far as they could, then expand in-your-face banners as far as they can,
>and only stop once their sites are quite difficult to use. It happens
>gradually (I'm looking at you, Wikia ;) but the result is the usability
>equivalent of linkrot. Let&
intrusive ads
worse than having much smaller and faster paid ad campaigns?
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smarter use of
volunteers, would go far toward a more sustainable fund-raising model.
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the person
likely able to speak most freely about this removal and probably is more
familiar with it than most. For now, he seems to have chosen not to say
very much. Others involved in the removal likely can't (or maybe won't)
say m
ut discounting the unsurprising vote,
it was a nearly unanimous decision (8 to 1). I have a good deal of respect
for many of the current Board of Trustees members and I have no doubt that
all of them understand and appreciate the gravity of removing a colleague.
This wasn't a close vote and to
st of whom are long-time trusted and
respected Wikimedians and all of whom take their role seriously.
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nt Grants (IEG). Luckily Meta-Wiki again comes to the
rescue: <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IEP> and
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IEG>. Maybe we should start selling
decoder rings.
Acronyms and abbreviations are fine, especially in a long document, but at
minimum the first r
r-chapter that's unreasonably and unmanageably large. It's time to
treat the Wikimedia Foundation as we would Wikimedia California or
Wikimedia United States and hold the Wikimedia Foundation to the same
standards as we hold Wikimedia DC, Wikimedia DE, and all the others to.
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maybe your team will have a better understanding of "user flows" and that
will help... something. I certainly won't be holding my breath.
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ikimedia Foundation's responsibilities, keeping the sites
running fast, reliably, and securely, is being appropriately handled.
The world continues to be able to read and contribute to our shared free
content and for that I'm grateful. The rest is commentary, as they say.
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nted, by whoever takes the time to create a plan of
action, write the necessary code, and get it deployed. But for now, it
seems pretty silly to try to give credit for essentially having a group of
people vote on Phabricator Maniphest tasks.
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lso:
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I don't think this board has any unhealthy relationship with
Google.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 08:02, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
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on't capture all of the
information related to this removal, but it seemed remiss to omit an
official statement from the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees on the
subject, especially when we have already included a number of other
statements f
advice here,
starting and continuing a tangential (meta-)discussion without changing
the subject line to create a new thread. We'll all strive indeed. :-)
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f Trustees member;
* strongly urge the Board of Trustees to be more transparent and
communicative, embracing the values that keep our projects running; and
* evaluate the process for filling community-selected Board of Trustees
seats, perhaps changing th
esigned to give Apple a fast and dedicated stream for title prefix
searches. Apple's built-in Dictionary application has been the primary
consumer of this feed, though I believe it's open to anyone.
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st have a full accounting of the tangled web that's been
woven. My suspicion is that if you or others put in the time to thoroughly
document the connection between the two entities, you'd miraculously find
more than a single concern about a failed project, as your reply suggested.
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529#Advisory_Board>.
I think it would be nice to get clarification on the current status of the
Advisory Board before discussing ways to improve it.
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n_Weber>. By my
count, the Board of Trustees has passed six separate resolutions to
accommodate the Sloan Foundation's request to have a Board observer.
I agree with you that the current lack of openness and transparency
surrounding the Wikimedia Foundation Board o
Yury Bulka wrote:
>MZMcBride writes:
>> A few years ago, the Wikimedia Foundation switched over to the Google
>>Apps platform, which means that most e-mail sent on the wikimedia.org
>>domain is now hosted by Google.
>Are you sure? It doesn't look like wikimedia.org&#x
understand what you are doing. Please take my vote
>as a respectful record of my perplexity.
>
>(*)Citing community-born members only. Appointed members bring great
>perspective, but I do not expect them to know it all about Wikimedia
>community.
surrounding this Knight Foundation grant? Or do you
know who at the Wikimedia Foundation would be the best/most appropriate
contact to figure this out? Geoff and the legal team? One of the
grants-related staff such as Janice? Any help would be appreci
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>Wes and Katherine: do you know what steps need to be taken in order to
>release the documents surrounding this Knight Foundation grant? Or do you
>know who at the Wikimedia Foundation would be the best/most appropriate
>contact to figure this out? Geoff and the legal
dation okay with the full grant agreement being published?
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ties to spend on non-necessities. Does the
Wikimedia Foundation need six legal counsels (not including the general
counsel and two legal directors), eight community liaisons, or a mobile
apps team? I'm sure these are all great people doing excellent work, but
when I see how much the Wikimedia
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