Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

2019-02-22 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Hi Peter, Could you please give an example of the instances that it wouldn't predict well? Regards, Micru On Fri, 22 Feb 2019, 10:44 Peter Southwood, wrote: > That would be a fair operational definition in our context, but it does > not predict well for all instances. > Cheers > Peter > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

2019-02-22 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 9:52 AM Amir E. Aharoni < amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: > Do the people to whom you speak have the same understanding of what our > definition of knowledge is? I guess I can make them aware of it from now on :-) ___

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

2019-02-22 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
On Fri, 22 Feb 2019, 08:27 Amir E. Aharoni, wrote: > What is our definition of knowledge? > In my opinion, the informal definition would be: all the information that the Wikimedia community allows into their projects. Regards, Micru > ___

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

2019-02-21 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Hi Mark, Benjamin and me we had a Skype conversation about this topic. Maybe he can elaborate with his insights? Regards Micru On Thu, 21 Feb 2019, 19:11 Mark Rousell, wrote: > On 18/02/2019 11:04, David Cuenca Tudela wrote: > > the current definition of knowledge by Wikimedia >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

2019-02-19 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
a number of people in > the Roles & Responsibilities group have been reading with interest, thank > you very much for sharing. > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Working_Groups/Roles_%26_Responsibilities > > Chris > > > On Mon,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

2019-02-18 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
rve this? Later > it will be a little bit difficult to find it again on a mailinglist. > I myself find this point of view of "outsiders" very interesting and worth > to notice e.g. in strategic discussions. > Kind regards > Ziko > > Am Mo., 18. Feb. 2019 um 11:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

2019-02-18 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
recommendation that is even remotely > related to how can the Wikimedia movement be more truly international, and > it sounds like there could be something about it there, but even if there > isn't, is love to hear the rest. > > Thanks! > > בתאריך יום ב׳, 18 בפבר׳ 2019, 01:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

2019-02-18 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
> > from Russia with love, > > farhad > > https://ru.wikimedia.org/wiki/Smart_region > > > > -- > > Farhad Fatkullin - Фархад Фаткуллин http://sikzn.ru/ Тел.+79274158066 / > > skype:frhdkazan / Wikipedia:frhdkazan / WMRU: > > > > > > 18.02.201

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

2019-02-18 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
> https://ru.wikimedia.org/wiki/Smart_region > > > > -- > > Farhad Fatkullin - Фархад Фаткуллин http://sikzn.ru/ Тел.+79274158066 / > > skype:frhdkazan / Wikipedia:frhdkazan / WMRU: > > > > > > 18.02.2019, 02:35, "David Cuenca Tudela" : >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

2019-02-18 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
rhdkazan / Wikipedia:frhdkazan / WMRU: > > > 18.02.2019, 02:35, "David Cuenca Tudela" : > > Hello, > > > > Last Friday I participated in a workshop in Brussels where people from > > different NGOs met to learn from each other to foster flat, > > dem

[Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

2019-02-17 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Hello, Last Friday I participated in a workshop in Brussels where people from different NGOs met to learn from each other to foster flat, democratic, and diverse organisations. I was one of four speakers in a "world cafe" format (basically a circle where participants can interact with the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the death of Wikipedia imminent?

2018-12-30 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Answering the initial question: It depends on how you understand "death". Wikipedia is the manifestation of a collection of algorithms running in the minds of thousands of people. With time it could become less popular to run that algorithm in your life, or you would like to try a different one.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Page views of male/female biographies?

2018-12-06 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
of the average article about a female > architect as compared to a male architect. It should be noted that there > is also an inherent bias in that there are far fewer biographical articles > about women in most categories, as compared to men. > > Risker/Anne > > On Wed, 5 Dec 201

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Page views of male/female biographies?

2018-12-05 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Newsletter/2015/December#Does_advertising_the_gender_gap_help_or_hurt_Wikipedia > ? > > E.g. "On a typical (median) day in September 2014, no one read 26 percent > of the biographies of men versus only 16 percent of the biographies of > women." > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 3:35 AM David Cuenca Tudela > wr

[Wikimedia-l] Page views of male/female biographies?

2018-11-28 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Hi, Are there any statistics that track the evolution of page views of male/female biographies in the different Wikipedias? Regards, Micru ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Subject lines for WMF fundraising emails

2018-11-17 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 6:17 PM Caitlin Cogdill wrote: > That said, there is a final input which is harder to measure on a per-test > basis: how do we, our colleagues, and volunteers feel about our messaging? > This team cares deeply about Wikipedia and the Wikimedia Foundation, and > about the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: First round of Working Group members

2018-08-01 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
s > contrast/critique of an existing process, than from scratch. In which case > quirks of a process, like incomplete sections of articles, can serve as > helpful inspiration. > > SJ > > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 2:03 AM David Cuenca Tudela > wrote: > > > > The mes

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: First round of Working Group members

2018-07-26 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 9:29 AM Jane Darnell wrote: > But in the past I have felt quite strongly that something was > really really wrong, but it turned out it was just a factor of me being > unaware of workflow difficulties experienced by others. > I can subscribe to the sentiment. All the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: First round of Working Group members

2018-07-24 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 1:34 PM Paulo Santos Perneta < paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote: > I fail to understand why, among the dozens of people > chosen to be part of the Working Groups, there's not a single one that can > be identified as a representative of that community. > Well, you can slice

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: First round of Working Group members

2018-07-24 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
tional Working Group members, we > expect the overall ratio of volunteers will increase and these proportions > will change > > Thank you for your kind attention and time in bringing these issues up in a > more public manner and look forward to hearing from you and maybe o

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: First round of Working Group members

2018-07-20 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Dear Kaarel & Nicole, It saddens me that in the selection of candidates our digital projects are not directly represented. Where is the representation of volunteers from our digital communities like Commons, Wikidata, Wikisource, Wiktionary...? It is not the same to have members that work in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimédia France Governance review

2018-07-09 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Hi Nadine, Thanks for sharing the document with us. I read it and I found interesting to see the different clashes: - there is no awareness of the individual interpretations of our mission - the community wants anarchism in order to feel free, however the organization needs some kind of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Response to recent developments of United States travel ban

2018-07-03 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Dear Katherine, Members of INGOs can normally apply to special visas. Has such legal status been considered for the Wikimedia movement as a whole? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_non-governmental_organization Regards, Micru On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 12:42 AM Katherine Maher wrote: >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF

2018-06-11 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
lready a lot. Micru On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 3:06 PM Andrea Zanni wrote: > On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 10:25 PM, David Cuenca Tudela > wrote: > > Dear David, > your mail is very long and dense, I don't know where to start: > so I'll start from a random point ;-) > > &g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Volunteering and Appreciation (was: Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF)

2018-06-11 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018, 19:39 Gerard Meijssen, wrote: > When you add the animosity when you come with arguments that are not > considered, it is too much. > Lack of mutual listening is a constant in our movement that I would like to address one way or another. The animosity depends more on your

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Volunteering and Appreciation (was: Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF)

2018-06-11 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
> I could not get enough interest to progress the conversation. > > > > You may wish to read > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Volunteer_Management > > and the talk page thereof. > > > > R

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF

2018-06-11 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
;> failed to do anything about long-term harassment of a certain user > >>> directed > >>> at me - but this unfortunately happened before and will happen later. > >>> Specifically concerning the administrator issue, in the English > >>> Wikipedia I >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF

2018-06-10 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Hi Yaroslav, Thanks for explaining why you didn't answer. I agree with you, these kind of conversations can be *very* exausting, but in this case I am not looking for an argument, I am just trying to understand your position better. You formulated your standing against "regular paid editors not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF

2018-06-10 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Yaroslav, Yes, you already made your point earlier, and I addressed it here [1] and also in the draft proposal to enable some volunteers to receive donations for their work [2]. The fact that you neither commented on my reply to your initial concern, nor on the proposal suggests me several

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF

2018-06-09 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Aubrey, You speak so much truth in your words that I'm feeling overwhelmed right now. Because like a doctor who cares about his patient, you have just very lovingly and figuratively told me, "you are deeply sick". It hurts, I struggle accepting the truth, but deep inside I know that the only

[Wikimedia-l] Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF

2018-06-08 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Since Ed Erhart didn't honor my request of posting in this mailing lists to discuss the plans to appropriate the Wikimedia Blog for the Wikimedia Foundation [1] (although I would have preferred that he had done it himself as he is the visible face behind this change, and therefore the burden of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

2018-06-04 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
st. > > For the model now being discussed I see it as comparable to "Wikipedian > in Residence", perhaps like "Admins (patrollers) financially supported > by a Community". > > Anders > > > > > > Den 2018-06-01 kl. 10:51, skrev David Cuenca Tudela: >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

2018-06-01 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 4:41 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Just a question. When you pay volunteers, where does it stop? First of all I must say that what I might say as an answer to those questions reflects my understanding of this topic now, which is different than when the conversation

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

2018-06-01 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Hi Pine, On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 4:31 AM, Pine W wrote: > This sounds like another good question for Nicole. Indeed, but she might be busy or in vacation. If she doesn't get involved into this conversation in the next days I will open a new thread about it. > * There are a number of people who

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

2018-05-31 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Pine, It is nice of you that you thought about including these topics in the WMF strategy process, which I assume it is an ongoing process and not a one-off event. However as the 2017 cycle ended, I am unable to find the way to incorporate new ideas into the process. I would have expected to find

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

2018-05-28 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Hey Yaroslav, thanks for sharing your view. I find very interesting what you mention, and if you have experienced yourself it must be a real effect on people. Five years ago, when I was awarded an IEG grant, I didn't feel the same effect on me. In fact it was quite the opposite, I felt under

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

2018-05-28 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Gnangarra, you have been showing a lot of generosity towards the community and that is laudable. As you, over the years I have also spent countless hours in this community, and I do not regret it either, I feel it has been and it still is a good investment of my time, and my dedication. You, as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

2018-05-28 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
> My view is that the Foundation was suddenly (but not without warning) > made legally responsible for its own content after Trump made hosting > providers responsible for facilitating online prostitution > advertising, at pretty much the same time the GDPR went in to effect. I do not know enough

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

2018-05-26 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
t; to receiving some form of payment would potentially make people responsible > for the content or seen as responsible putting them at greater risk. > > > > On 26 May 2018 at 22:49, David Cuenca Tudela <dacu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I have the feeling that we need to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

2018-05-26 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
I have the feeling that we need to clarify what it means to be a "paid admin" vs a "community-supported volunteer". In my definition, a "paid admin" is a person who receives a salary to perform a delimited function not necessarily aligned with his/her will. There is a contractual obligation where

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

2018-05-26 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
OVedits. And that these can offload the burden on admin when things > getting nasty > > I am not a supporter of paid editors, and think it would be too > controversial having paid administrators. > > Anders > > > > > > > Den 2018-05-26 kl. 09:38, skrev D

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

2018-05-26 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 7:41 AM, James Salsman wrote: > I'm not sure that's true. Whether it started as a game of Nomic or > not, almost all of the admins have been elected through a certainly > established process. > That someone does an activity or that this person has

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

2018-05-25 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 9:16 PM, James Salsman wrote: > Paid professionals work alongside volunteers in fire departments and > hospitals throughout the world. Are there any essential > characteristics which exclude such cooperation in Wikipedia? > There is a difference, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

2018-05-25 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Hi Anders, I hear your worries. Indeed it seems that resisting the push is taking more effort than what the community can take under the current circumstances, or at least it doesn't look sustainable (the RfA chart shown in the last Signpost [1] is really clear on that regard). However, by

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recent statement on the block of Wikipedia in Turkey

2018-05-24 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Thanks for the explanation, James! On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 10:06 AM, James Hare <jh...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 12:55 AM, David Cuenca Tudela <dacu...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hi Eileen, > > > > Thanks for the follow up

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recent statement on the block of Wikipedia in Turkey

2018-05-24 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Hi Eileen, Thanks for the follow up and for the nice letter that you wrote to the Turkish Minister. There is something I do not understand about Turkey's block and maybe you (or somebody else) could offer some insights about it. Apparently the ban was issued because it was felt that Turkey was

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] Knowledge Integrity: A proposed Wikimedia Foundation cross-departmental program for 2018-2019

2018-04-17 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Hi Dario, Thanks for sharing the plan. Any possibility to include in the plan a system to archive all reference URLs and external identifiers linked from Wikidata? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T143488 Additionally I think it would be interesting to have some research done on which

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

2018-04-10 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Unlike Erik, I don't think an open alternative to Facebook will emerge, the inertia at this point is too big and you would need a huge critical mass of people (and organizations) to make it useful. Hard to attain. The only contender on the long run to FB could be reddit, because they seem to be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What to do when the WMF is stingy with the community?

2017-06-28 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
gt; ¿No es así?. Como voluntario del Comité de Subvenciones a Conferencias, > quedo pendiente y en consideración de tú comentario. > > Saludos, > > 2017-06-28 13:02 GMT-05:00 Dariusz Jemielniak <dar...@alk.edu.pl>: > > > hi David, > > > > > > On

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What to do when the WMF is stingy with the community?

2017-06-28 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:02 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak <dar...@alk.edu.pl> wrote: > hi David, > > > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 7:52 PM, David Cuenca Tudela <dacu...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Recently the review for the Wikidata conference grant application has > > sta

[Wikimedia-l] What to do when the WMF is stingy with the community?

2017-06-28 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Hello, Recently the review for the Wikidata conference grant application has started, and I have complained that the funds allocated are insuficient to cover the needs of the grants. The requested amount for the grants was 36,000 EUR, but in my opinion that should be at least 72,000 EUR. I have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

2017-06-05 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
I think that's an excellent idea and very much aligned with our commitment to provide free information also for those who are living under unfavorable conditions. I personally endorse it. Thanks Cristian for suggesting it. Regards, Micru On Jun 5, 2017 19:11, "Cristian Consonni"

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katherine Maher is making me happy this week

2017-06-03 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
gt; > https://www.facebook.com/groups/wikipediaweekly/ > > -Andrew > > > > On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 6:00 AM, David Cuenca Tudela <dacu...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hello everybody, > > > > Normally in our community we used to send angry emails whe

[Wikimedia-l] Katherine Maher is making me happy this week

2017-05-31 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Hello everybody, Normally in our community we used to send angry emails when we were not happy with how things are going, and we were not sending enough emails of satisfaction and encouragement. I don't know who started it, but the "what is making​ you happy this week" series might be one of the

[Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

2017-05-17 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Are there any activities that could have a meaningful impact if we ask donors for such amount of seed money? Are there reasons to do so? Do we have the guts to do so? Do we have the organizational capital to handle it? Or can we get there soon? Do we have the moral right to take a lead in the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] machine translation

2017-05-03 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Perhaps it would be a good idea to compare the translated text to the text that the user wants to save. If they are more than 95% the same, that means that the user didn't take the effort to correct the text. Cheers, Micru On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Wojciech Pędzich

[Wikimedia-l] Is there freedom to believe a lie? (it was: "Wikitribune!")

2017-04-28 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
The recent Wikitribune initiative seems to be based on the premise that the antidote to fake news is a collaborative news outlet. According to this premise, readers would confer authority to Wikitribune since they would be able to participate in the reviewing/reporting process. As a result fake

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Deutschland: Abraham Taherivand appointed permanent Executive Director

2017-01-30 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Congratulations Abraham! I wish you a good start in your new position! On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Tim Moritz Hector < tim-moritz.hec...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > Dear Wikimedians, > > It is our great pleasure to announce that during last weekend’s Board > retreat, we voted to appoint Abraham

Re: [Wikimedia-l] English Fundraiser Update

2016-12-17 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
And here: https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia/comments/5ik9zc/wikimedia_has_more_money_than_it_knows_what_to_do/ On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 7:14 PM, carl hansen wrote: > also being discussed at > https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/12/16/1631223/ >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [recent changes]

2016-04-09 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Hi Denny, Thanks for explaining your reasoning, which hints towards a lack of tolerance and understanding towards people wearing several hats. It doesn't have an easy solution, as there is too much lack of trust. The only thing I wish is that your decision enables you to participate in the

[Wikimedia-l] Commons search display results

2016-03-30 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
I was looking for some lichen images on Commons and I was wondering how can I show a grid of images. I tried several options but nothing, I think that there was some hack to make the search results look more like Google images, or maybe I am wrong? Is this part of the Discovery team work? Thanks

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [FDC] Wikimédia France Annual Plan Grant - 2015-2016 R2

2016-03-25 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Thanks Emeric,I will take a look. Regards, Micru On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Sydney Poore wrote: > Thank you, Emeric. I appreciate the commitment for community engagement. > > Warm regards, > > Sydney > On Mar 25, 2016 9:44 AM, "Emeric Vallespi"

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cross-wiki notifications beta feature now available on all wikis

2016-03-13 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Finally it is here! Now I don't miss conversations that are happening elsewhere. I know that many don't like it, but combined with Flow it works like a charm :) Thanks Micru On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Biplab Anand wrote: > This is amazing. > Thanks. > On 13 Mar

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-03-11 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
ated > by volunteers, and bearing in mind that the CC-0 licence has the potential > of obscuring the origin of the data, cutting the very feedback loop your > argument relies on for a substantial subset of end users. > > Andreas > > On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 1:57 PM, David

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-03-11 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Wikidata and Wikipedia have very different purposes: Wikipedia is an > encyclopedia to be read; Wikidata is a database. No one reads a database. > The whole purpose of a database is to have its content multiplied and >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation executive transition update

2016-03-11 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Congratulations, Katherine! I hope that you have a good start in your new position, and that the challenges ahead don't overwhelm you. Good luck, Micru On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Steven Crossin wrote: > What Oliver said. Katherine was my pick for interim ED as well. Im

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliate-selected Board seats] Kunal Mehta (Legoktm) candidacy

2016-03-08 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
"P.S. I plan to leave my job at the WMF if elected." Then I hope you don't get elected, because it would be sad to see yet another valuable staffer quit, regardless the noble reasons... Regards, Micru On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Legoktm wrote: > Hi, > > I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a *volunteer* organization

2016-03-01 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
free internet to promote their obscenities and lies in > India ... TO IMMEDIATELY PROHIBIT ANY FREE INTERNET ACCESS OVER MOBILE > DEVICES .. " [2] > > [1] > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/India_Against_Corruption_sock-meatfarm > > [2] > htt

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a *volunteer* organization

2016-03-01 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
for its users and administrators across all its projects, > and purge all rogue editors (along with their self serving > so-called""community" policies) who are damaging the credibility of > its projects, including through paid editing. > > David > > [1] > http://www.bus

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a *volunteer* organization

2016-02-29 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
James, I think it is very nice to put measures against paid editing, but it would be nicer to put measures to get editors more free time to edit voluntarily... There are not that many suggestions on how to do it, so it could be that it cannot be done. Cheers, Micru On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 6:14

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a *volunteer* organization

2016-02-28 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
directly? Cheers Micru On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 8:10 PM, Brion Vibber <bvib...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > David, you appear to be agreeing strongly with me, not disagreeing. :) > > -- brion > > On Sunday, February 28, 2016, David Cuenca Tudela <dacu...@gmail.com> > wrote: &g

[Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a *volunteer* organization

2016-02-28 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
I am starting a new thread because I disagree with the idea that the WMF should be a high-tech organization as the other thread by Brion seemed to suggest. Yes, technology is a tool that we use in our mission to gather and process all forms of human knowledge, but in the end the driving force is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a high-tech organization

2016-02-26 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
On > Behalf Of Ed Saperia > Sent: Friday, 26 February 2016 10:51 AM > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a high-tech organization > > A Wikimedia monastery! ^_^ > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 26 Feb 2016, at 08:39, David Cuenc

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a high-tech organization

2016-02-26 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
I think there are more ways of supporting volunteers than just paying them cash. For instance another option could be to offer them a place to stay, food and healthcare. That is how many volunteer programs work, like workaway or woofing, and I don't see anything wrong with it. Would it be an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Results of 2015 WMF Board elections

2015-06-06 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Congratulations to the winners! However I must say that the results of this election are hilarious. The person with the most support votes doesn't win because of oppose votes :D El sáb., 6 de jun. de 2015 3:22, Johan Jönsson brevlis...@gmail.com escribió: Congratulations, Dariusz, James and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Involved people matter; and some hot topics (was: Community health (retitled thread))

2015-06-04 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Milos, thanks for your long email because it highlights some problems I mentioned already in another long email (Building a we in the wikimedia movement). It is in fact hard to deal with social systems, but nevertheless important if we want the movement to survive to itself. The greatest enemy are

[Wikimedia-l] Is Phabricator appropriate for managing non-coding projects?

2015-06-04 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Hi, I am looking for a space where I can set up projects like: - clean up a wiki category - set up book scanning tasks - track a survey stages (planning, translation, ad, analysis, etc) Is phabricator a good place for that? I guess that with appropriate project/subproject separation then the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wmcon15] Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource UG report on the WMCON15

2015-06-02 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: could you pleas share that on Meta? On 30 May 2015 at 06:13, David Cuenca Tudela dacu...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Asaf and Juan Bautista, Thanks a lot for your comments, I am glad to have some feedback on these ideas that were discussed during the WMCON

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wmcon15] Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource UG report on the WMCON15

2015-05-30 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
. I would be happy to advise on some of the proposed ideas if there are people interested in leading them. A. On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 2:04 AM, David Cuenca Tudela dacu...@gmail.com wrote: ​ Dear all, I have written a short piece on the WMCON and some interesting aspects about

[Wikimedia-l] Wikisource UG report on the WMCON15

2015-05-29 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Dear all, I have written a short piece on the WMCON and some interesting aspects about the organizational future of User Groups. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ew8cVJhqqenGUAVVaTQqkisyPyd1tSX-zbVfi-Uuo8U/edit?usp=sharing Cheers, Micru ___

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Survey: What do you think of our social media feeds?

2015-05-29 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Thanks for the initiative! Micru El vie., 29 de may. de 2015 8:53, Hasive Chowdhury nhas...@wikimedia.org.bd escribió: Just complete the survey. Nice initiative. -Hasive WMBD On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 4:13 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 28 May 2015 at 20:57,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of North Carolina Triangle Wikipedians User Group

2015-05-28 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Congratulations, new user group members! On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Carlos M. Colina ma...@wikimedia.org.ve wrote: Dear all, On behalf of the Affiliations Committee, I am honored to announce the recognition [1] of a new User Group in the United States - the North Carolina Triangle

[Wikimedia-l] Building a we in the wikimedia movement

2015-05-23 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
During this Wikimedia Conference 2015 there was a paradigm shift in the way problems are expressed. It was highlighted that the wikimedia movement is not only about gathering and sharing knowledge, but also about the people behind it, about finding ways to enhance the togetherness that is created

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Building a we in the wikimedia movement

2015-05-23 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 7:22 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: I don't know how you're going to shoehorn we into Wikimedia movement. I guess, similar to putting the me in team, it will require transposing letters? Or perhaps dropping letters altogether (since we[!] already have a W and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Building a we in the wikimedia movement

2015-05-23 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: How can we [l]itigate against this, while making our projects more social? Hi Andy, regarding your question I guess there is no definite answer, perhaps it is something inherent to social systems, so in a way there

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Building a we in the wikimedia movement

2015-05-23 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
I third that! However we are entering the field of privacy, because as useful the virtual meetings can be, they might be intrusive if you are in your home and you show your whole house to the world. As long as people are happy about that, then I do not see any problem in increasing the number of