Re: [Wikimedia-l] Promotion of scientific racism in Wikipedia articles

2020-06-16 Thread John Erling Blad
all other Wikipedians "Negroid" because of their > appearance meeting a racist theory published in the 1930s. > > Or were you trying to say something else, other than defending > "scientific racism" on this public list? > > Fae > > On Tue, 16 Jun 2020

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Promotion of scientific racism in Wikipedia articles

2020-06-16 Thread John Erling Blad
I'm not sure it is wise to try to refute differences between humans, whether we call it race or something else, it is simply too easy to point out the differences. We should rather promote that differences are a GoodThing™ Humans do exhibit racial differences, but those differences should not be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-05-05 Thread John Erling Blad
It happen after a reboot where the browsers was reset. No, I did not take a screenshot. On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 7:43 PM Samuel Klein wrote: > > > > This is a complaint about multiple banners on the same page. > > > > > I believe it would be better to put the add on the lower part of the > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-05-05 Thread John Erling Blad
One of the browsers are set up with forced session cookies and web storage, and also to block third parties. It breaks several features, also central login. I have reported it as an issue, but none has bothered to create a fix. I believe it would be better to put the add on the lower part of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-05-05 Thread John Erling Blad
nks again, > Nick > > [1] https://donate.wikimedia.org/wiki/Thank_You > > On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 7:56 AM John Erling Blad wrote: > > > Often I surf Wikipedia without being logged in, and so I did right now. I > > got the usual banners, but this time they popped up r

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-05-05 Thread John Erling Blad
ing in? > > On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 10:56 AM John Erling Blad wrote: > > > Often I surf Wikipedia without being logged in, and so I did right now. I > > got the usual banners, but this time they popped up repeatedly in several > > locations. This quickly gets extremely annoying, an

[Wikimedia-l] Annoying ads

2020-05-04 Thread John Erling Blad
Often I surf Wikipedia without being logged in, and so I did right now. I got the usual banners, but this time they popped up repeatedly in several locations. This quickly gets extremely annoying, and I find it unwise. Create one banner, and stick with that. Several banners are simply way over the

[Wikimedia-l] Is the Wikimedia-movement apolitical?

2020-04-25 Thread John Erling Blad
It is said quite often that the Wikimedia-movement is apolitical. In strongly believe the movement with its goal has never been, and never will be apolitical. When we say that knowledge should be free and fully available for everyone, then we make a political statement. It may not align with you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF political activism

2020-04-25 Thread John Erling Blad
Can everyone please calm down. This is (nearly) only hyperbole. Thank you. /jeblad On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 8:51 AM Fæ wrote: > OPEN LETTER > > Dear Katherine Maher, > > The WMF home website landing page (https://wikimediafoundation.org) > yesterday featured a full-page banner directing all

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement?

2020-04-11 Thread John Erling Blad
/RfC_Should_the_Foundation_call_itself_Wikipedia John Erling Blad /jeblad On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 10:49 AM Samir Elsharbaty wrote: > Hi, the Brand team has been watching the RfC and has written a summary > about it [1] that was shared both in the RfC [2] and the project page [3] > in Meta. The team has integrated the feedback o

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Face recognition

2020-01-19 Thread John Erling Blad
t; https://creativecommons.org/faq/#artificial-intelligence-and-cc-licenses > > > > > > > > > > > r. > > > > > > > > _ > > > > > > > > Ryan Merkley (he/him) > > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Face recognition

2020-01-19 Thread John Erling Blad
of Staff, Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/> > > > > rmerk...@wikimedia.org <mailto:rmerk...@wikimedia.org> > > @ryanmerkley <https://twitter.com/ryanmerkley> > > +1 416 802 0662 > > > >> On Jan 18, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Jo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Face recognition

2020-01-18 Thread John Erling Blad
t; > > r. > > _ > > Ryan Merkley (he/him) > Chief of Staff, Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/> > > rmerk...@wikimedia.org <mailto:rmerk...@wikimedia.org> > @ryanmerkley <https://twitter.com/ryanmerkley

[Wikimedia-l] Face recognition

2020-01-18 Thread John Erling Blad
in the millions and billions. Even a 1px fine print would be troublesome! What is the official stance on this? Is it a copyright infringement or not, does the license(s) cover the case or not? John Erling Blad /jeblad ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Snøhetta and Wikimedia

2020-01-18 Thread John Erling Blad
… and people immediately went ballistic. Calm down and discuss the topic! The news reporting seems to be that Snøhetta has been awarded a full design project, while the page at Meta says it should act as some form of facilitator. It could be interesting to know what is correct, as these two

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Snøhetta and Wikimedia

2020-01-17 Thread John Erling Blad
Note that "Dagens næringsliv" printed the story Thursday, so they must have had information about it before WMF left the meeting with Snøhetta. This is no longer a breaking story. On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 12:04 AM John Erling Blad wrote: > > This is out in several newspapers no

[Wikimedia-l] Snøhetta and Wikimedia

2020-01-17 Thread John Erling Blad
This is out in several newspapers now. "Snøhetta shall create new visual profile for Wikipedia-owner" [1] A quick Google Translate dump The mission is the largest in the field of graphic design ever, writes Dagens Næringsliv. - For me personally, this is very big, but you see it in a larger

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome back, Turkey

2020-01-16 Thread John Erling Blad
Seems like the site is throttled or even redirected to a taerpit. Anyone inside Turkey that can run a trace? On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 7:21 PM Amanda Keton wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > My name is Amanda Keton, the new General Counsel at the Wikimedia > Foundation. While Katherine is inflight

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Block of Wikipedia in Turkey ruled as unconstitutional

2020-01-07 Thread John Erling Blad
Both en.wikipedia.org and tr.wikipedia.org are still blocked. On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 10:44 PM Mike Godwin wrote: > > Great news! Even if the court's decision isn't implemented by the current > Turkish government, it is important to have established that the block was > a violation of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-15 Thread John Erling Blad
e in it, the > better—not because it saves money, but because it makes the project more > "owned" by the community. > > > בתאריך שבת, 14 בדצמ׳ 2019, 09:12, מאת John Erling Blad ‏: > > > I get a little scared when I read “probably, but not necessarily, > > mostly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-13 Thread John Erling Blad
For those interested: https://www.w3.org/TR/css-device-adapt-1/ On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 10:47 PM John Erling Blad wrote: > > Could we please update them with a slightly more up-to-date skin? > > Take a look at our Norwegian competitor in the lexicon field. > https://snl.no/kuns

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-13 Thread John Erling Blad
I get a little scared when I read “probably, but not necessarily, mostly by staff” because all kind of central standardization creates a whole lot of arguing in the individual subprojects. If that standardization means changing a whole lot of templates I'm afraid it will create much more fighting

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-13 Thread John Erling Blad
A skin does not have to change the content, most of the skin is chrome and can be changed without touching the content at all. On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 1:12 AM Nick Wilson (Quiddity) wrote: > > Multiple responses: > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 10:07 AM Juergen Fenn wrote: > > > Am 12.12.19 um

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-13 Thread John Erling Blad
e from the > content to absolutely overwhelm the whole monitor on a first view. That > robot image should be about a third of its size. > > Todd > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 4:22 PM John Erling Blad wrote: > > > Try holding your cellphone vertically. > > > > to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-12 Thread John Erling Blad
tely huge photo of a robot looking at me. I have to scroll down past > that to get to the actual meat, the text content. *That* looks like 1996. > > I'll take the way we have it over that, thanks very much. > > Todd > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 2:48 PM John Erling Blad wrot

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-12 Thread John Erling Blad
at 2:01 PM John Erling Blad wrote: > > I wrote 1996 in the subject field because that was the year I made a > wikisite with tabbed interface, and experimented with a paper-like > design in Xt. More or less what designers today would call a material > design. The present design i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-12 Thread John Erling Blad
it. The design proposal was deemed to radical and to simple for Wikipedia. He got several awards for the design. No, I'm not a designer, but I do like good design. On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 1:34 PM John Erling Blad wrote: > > Thank you, but discussing how your site or any other specifi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-12 Thread John Erling Blad
Thank you, but discussing how your site or any other specific site looked like in some year is an distraction. On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 12:30 PM Shlomi Fish wrote: > > Hi John! > > On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 22:47:21 +0100 > John Erling Blad wrote: > > > Could we please update t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-12 Thread John Erling Blad
xperience (and the beta mode > there is super cool, but still breaks some templates). > > Strainu > > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 10:48 PM John Erling Blad wrote: > > > > > Could we please update them with a slightly more up-to-date skin? > > >

[Wikimedia-l] The wikisites looks like 1996

2019-12-11 Thread John Erling Blad
Could we please update them with a slightly more up-to-date skin? Take a look at our Norwegian competitor in the lexicon field. https://snl.no/kunstig_intelligens John Erling Blad /jeblad ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal forced HTTPS backdoor in Kazakhstan

2019-08-23 Thread John Erling Blad
Google, Apple, Mozilla move to block Kazakh surveillance system https://www.reuters.com/article/us-kazakhstan-internet-surveillance/google-apple-mozilla-move-to-block-kazakh-surveillance-system-idUSKCN1VB17Q ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal forced HTTPS backdoor in Kazakhstan

2019-07-28 Thread John Erling Blad
Seems like something happen early Friday morning.[1] [1] https://censoredplanet.org/kazakhstan/live On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 2:43 PM John Erling Blad wrote: > You are right. “Firefox and Chrome disable pin validation for pinned hosts > whose validated certificate chain terminates at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal forced HTTPS backdoor in Kazakhstan

2019-07-28 Thread John Erling Blad
n default. > > On Sun, 28 Jul 2019, 12:58 John Erling Blad, wrote: > > > The Kazakhstan MITM could be stopped by HTTP Public Key Pinning [1], but > > Chrome seems to have dropped support for HPKP[2]? Dropping HPKP made the > > MITM attack possible, by forcing the users to install

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal forced HTTPS backdoor in Kazakhstan

2019-07-28 Thread John Erling Blad
The Kazakhstan MITM could be stopped by HTTP Public Key Pinning [1], but Chrome seems to have dropped support for HPKP[2]? Dropping HPKP made the MITM attack possible, by forcing the users to install the root certificate, as many of the sites listed has been on the HPKP list. With HPKP in place

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-13 Thread John Erling Blad
cannot be named, but oddly was not > worth a global ban but only the equivalent of a 12 month block on > Wikipedia while they are free to do whatever they feel like on other > Wikimedia projects. > > Fae > -- > fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae &g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-06-13 Thread John Erling Blad
When you bad mouth other users there should be, and will be, consequences. An admin got desysoped and banned after repeated warnings? So what? The only ting to be learned is that some people believe they can do whatever they want and it has no consequences, and other people goes ballistic when

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiJournals: A proposal to become a new sister project

2019-06-05 Thread John Erling Blad
> > One reason; reach. > > > > In academia reach -per se- is not a big deal, while impact is. Reach leads to impact. You can't get impact without reach, but reach in non-scientific communities does not necessarily turn into reach in scientific communities. > At nowiki we vere approached some

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiJournals: A proposal to become a new sister project

2019-06-03 Thread John Erling Blad
How often do you expect a scientific article to be translated? On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 7:46 PM James Heilman wrote: > > Wiki Journals use CC BY SA. We do not support or want to us ND as that > would prevent translation into other languages. That is why I disagree with > Plan S's move to allow ND.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiJournals: A proposal to become a new sister project

2019-06-03 Thread John Erling Blad
Do editing in a non-indexed draft space and then move the articles into an indexed mainspace after passing peer review. I guess a "WikiJournal" should be CC-ND by default. Authors should be able to relax the license. If others are allowed to edit then the license should be forced to CC-by-SA.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiJournals: A proposal to become a new sister project

2019-06-03 Thread John Erling Blad
One reason; reach. At nowiki we vere approached some years ago by a university about publishing cutting edge research in fish farming. We could not publish their work because some claimed it to be "original research". Sure it was, and it was darn good original research too. I don't think that was

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiJournals: A proposal to become a new sister project

2019-06-03 Thread John Erling Blad
of_Science/RIG-I_like_receptors> > ). > > Thomas > > On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 at 14:18, John Erling Blad wrote: > > > How do you handle lock down of articles? That is only listed authors should > > write a given article, so you can't allow random user edit access as it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiJournals: A proposal to become a new sister project

2019-06-02 Thread John Erling Blad
How do you handle lock down of articles? That is only listed authors should write a given article, so you can't allow random user edit access as it is today. Jeblad man. 3. jun. 2019, 04.16 skrev Thomas Shafee : > Yes, we put together a little checklist back in round one (*link* > < >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AI Image Restoration

2019-05-28 Thread John Erling Blad
; and as good > practice it should always be easy for the reader to navigate to the > unenhanced original. > > Fae > -- > fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae > > On Tue, 28 May 2019 at 02:23, John Erling Blad wrote: > > > > A quite common problem

[Wikimedia-l] AI Image Restoration

2019-05-27 Thread John Erling Blad
A quite common problem at all Wikimedia sites; we have a photo but the quality is poor. An example is the old photo from the cabins at Mørkedalen where a group of fighters hid out during the invasion of Norway.[1] I've been using some manual tools to restore images, but it is very slow and the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] If we had proper language models…

2019-05-19 Thread John Erling Blad
; which is something you typically drive on a road, but it can also be part of a train, or a toy. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word2vec [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recurrent_neural_network [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triplet_loss On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 2:55 PM John Erling Blad wrote:

[Wikimedia-l] If we had proper language models…

2019-05-19 Thread John Erling Blad
Microsoft has unveiled an idea about a grammar and style tool for Word. [1] I proposed something similar for detecting problematic grammatical constructs in the content translation tools.[2] It is a couple of years ago now, and I closed the task. [1]

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you and farewell

2019-05-16 Thread John Erling Blad
To be an organization so devoted to knowledge, Wikimedia as such (the projects communities included) knows very little about epistemology. A collection of mere facts, even referenced, is nothing more than information. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-14 Thread John Erling Blad
of EXIF data, we the issue remain. > > Regards, > Yann > Jai Jagat 2020 Grand March Coordinator > https://www.jaijagat2020.org/ > +91-74 34 93 33 58 (also WhatsApp) > > > > Le mar. 14 mai 2019 à 10:00, John Erling Blad a écrit : > > > Again; what is different

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-13 Thread John Erling Blad
Again; what is different between me as a photographer taking pictures for a newspaper and me as a photograper taking pictures for Commons? Is it the name written om the lens? The shoes I'm wearing? There are no difference, this is a fallacy. John Erling Blad /jeblad tir. 14. mai 2019, 05.50

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-13 Thread John Erling Blad
Some years ago I did a quite simplified analysis of the number of active contributors, and normalized the number against the number of people wit internet connections for the respective language groups. The relative number was pretty similar for all languages from similar cultural groups. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-13 Thread John Erling Blad
Trying to explain European copyright to Americans can be quite hard… ;) On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 6:07 AM Yann Forget wrote: > > Hi James, > > Of course. More admins would lesser the work charge, and it would be great. > We specially appreciate admins with multi-language capabilities, as it is a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-13 Thread John Erling Blad
This is wrong: "The upload system allow you to upload something if you are the author. Period." The system as it is now will allow anyone to upload a file given (s)he has the necessary rights. That does not imply the uploader being the author of the material. Note that verifying whether the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-13 Thread John Erling Blad
I can imagine a bot comparing photos found by Google (ie. comparing hashes) but not a system extracting some kind of unique feature that says an image is a copyright violation. So how do you imagine ORES being used for copyright violations? I can't see how a copyright violation would have any kind

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach

2019-05-13 Thread John Erling Blad
I have proposed use of local sensitive hashing algorithms for at least three different purposes in the past. All being turned down. Probably it is due to LSHs being difficult to understand, and not to forget it is a fairly bit of fighting over what is and whats not a "real" LSH. In the past there

[Wikimedia-l] Search strings in "cite"

2019-03-14 Thread John Erling Blad
Anyone noticed the terse tech notice in november? "When you edit with the visual editor you can use the "Automatic" citation tab. This helps you generate citations. You will now be able to write plain text citations or the title of a journal article or a book in this tab. This will search the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers?

2019-03-11 Thread John Erling Blad
We should be using a grid for what people are reading about, instead of using countries. That will give a better representation of large countries vs small countries. It will also better reflect local ethnic groups. On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 1:53 PM Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > > ‫בתאריך יום א׳, 10

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bounties…

2019-01-25 Thread John Erling Blad
> is most likely not considered to be ok even if does not explicitly > contradict to any policies. > > Cheers > Yaroslav > > On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 5:07 PM John Erling Blad wrote: > > > I was thinking about actually bounties, like in bug bounties from > > larger

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bounties…

2019-01-25 Thread John Erling Blad
ew. And rather than driving people away, they tend to draw them > in—Cunningham's law[2] never fails. > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ENGVAR > [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cunningham%27s_Law > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 6:55 PM John Erling Blad wrote: &g

[Wikimedia-l] Bounties…

2019-01-24 Thread John Erling Blad
. The Norwegian Bokmål Wikipedia has over a half a million articles. About 10 % lack sources. Nearly all of them has spelling errors. It is nothing unusual about this. Could we use bounties to get some momentum? John Erling Blad /jeblad ___ Wikimedia-l mailing

[Wikimedia-l] Captioning Wikidata items?

2018-09-26 Thread John Erling Blad
the highly specialized rdf2vec algorithm (hello Copenhagen) and verifying the stateful language model (hello Helsinki and Tromsø). I wonder if the only real problems are what do the community want, and what is the acceptable error limit. John Erling Bl

[Wikimedia-l] JSONstat

2018-09-13 Thread John Erling Blad
nk/>, State Statistical Office of the Republic of Macedonia <http://www.stat.gov.mk/OtvoreniPodatociApi_en.aspx>, Basque Institute of Statistics <http://en.eustat.eus/bancopx/english/indice.html> Note also the grant proposal <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Impor

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2 millions articles for the French Wikipedia

2018-07-08 Thread John Erling Blad
Congratulations from Norway! *NOTICE: This message is not confidential or legally privileged in any way! ;) On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 6:14 PM Eileen Hershenov wrote: > Congratulations > > On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 1:36 AM Thierry Coudray wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > La grande nouvelle du jour

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Time to simplify the Bureaucracy ?

2018-03-11 Thread John Erling Blad
I wonder if some of the problem is that we have made a mash-up of policies and guidelines on the same pages, thereby making it very hard for newcomers to figure out what they must know and all the stuff that is simply nice to know. Take a look at Verifiability at enwiki. [1] How much of this is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Time to simplify the Bureaucracy ?

2018-03-11 Thread John Erling Blad
This is slightly more complex. Some projects have a very large and steady decline, especially in new contributors,[1] while some projects have an increase, especially in the established users group.[2] Why it is so is not clear at all, but some editors favor an idea that other sites like Facebook

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-03-05 Thread John Erling Blad
We do need better tools to curate the existing articles, but that is not a blocker for new ways to create and edit articles. For example, what if we could simply select a sentence, create a query on some search engine, and then have an ai-bot crawl the result to see if one of the hits can be used

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-03-04 Thread John Erling Blad
Using a term from another language while creating an article and then later localizing that term isn't that difficult, and should not be described as impossible. What it does although identifies a problem with our current production system; it is easy to move an article, but it is not easy to make

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-03-04 Thread John Erling Blad
person within the local community, to accept the translation as valid and good enough. After it is ticked off as "done" further payment of that specific article will stop. On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 11:27 AM, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote: > You guys are making

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-03-04 Thread John Erling Blad
You guys are making the whole idea way to complex. There should be no editorial board. That goes against the whole wiki-way of doing things. There should be no additional foundation, that makes the whole idea unmanageable. It will also cost way more than the gain. Make thing DarnSimple™! A single

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-03-01 Thread John Erling Blad
There are something similar to paid translations in what you may call prioritized articles. That is articles that are so important for a language that they should be written, no matter whether they exist in a larger language. For example in the Northern Sami Wikipedia there should be an article

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-03-01 Thread John Erling Blad
That is a very good example! On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 11:39 AM, Harald Haugland wrote: > This thread brought me to think of an article I wrote on Norwegian > Wikipedia about a year ago. It was about the Allex Project (African > Languages Lexical Project), a project where

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-02-27 Thread John Erling Blad
text of a sister Wikipedia. > > We can do a better job by providing the sum of all knowledge that is > available to us. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 25 February 2018 at 15:16, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Sorry, but this does not make sense. Th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-02-26 Thread John Erling Blad
ranslation. If we open up for creative brainstorming > > (among the ones having the need) I think very many other ways can turn > up. > > Myself I am deeply impressed what you can create using Wikidata as a base > > source of info, and being from a version of type 3 I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-02-25 Thread John Erling Blad
> practical reasons, English is the most common translation source [1], but > translating from French, Russian, Chinese, or other languages, is awesome > for diversity—not just politically, but philosophically as well.) > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CXStats > &

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-02-25 Thread John Erling Blad
y for free CC-4 OCW degrees) > > > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 1:49 PM, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > It is a long time since everyone on these projects were solely > volunteers. > > :) > > > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 9:40 PM, Tod

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-02-25 Thread John Erling Blad
Not sure what you mean by common search terms, but if it is about direct translation of search terms to get good SEO ranking it is outside what I'm talking about. That area will vanish completely in a coupe of years. I've replied about medical articles previously, and why this isn't an area where

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-02-25 Thread John Erling Blad
with different > languages. For languages mainly spoken as first language the "sharing > knowledge" aspect is predominant, while the second should take precedence > in languages whose speakers are native speakers of a "bigger" language. > > Vito > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-02-24 Thread John Erling Blad
language totally detached from reality: there's no "encaustic painting" in > Sicilian, still a Sicilian article about Leonardo will invent one. > > As a general principle we should always collect, rather than create, > knowledge. > > Vito > > 2018-02-24 16:30 GMT+

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-02-24 Thread John Erling Blad
tached from reality: there's no "encaustic painting" > in > > Sicilian, still a Sicilian article about Leonardo will invent one. > > > > As a general principle we should always collect, rather than create, > > knowledge. > > > > Vito > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-02-24 Thread John Erling Blad
language spoken by >> 40 million people in Eastern India. The amazing thing is that for many of >> these topics this is the first and only information online about it. >> Google >> translate does not even claim to work in this language. Our partnerships >> with WMTW and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-02-24 Thread John Erling Blad
> I think the request for such projects should come from the concerned > language projects, same for the list of articles. If not, in my simple > opinion, it is a form of coloniasm again. > > Jean-Philippe Béland > Vice President, Wikimedia Canada > > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-02-24 Thread John Erling Blad
of articles. If not, in my simple > > opinion, it is a form of coloniasm again. > > > > Jean-Philippe Béland > > Vice President, Wikimedia Canada > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 9:40 AM John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> > wrote: > &g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-02-24 Thread John Erling Blad
plicitly requested not to be involved / > have translations from TWB. > > James > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 7:59 AM, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > You can turn it around; give added credits for translations from small > > language projects a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-02-24 Thread John Erling Blad
: > I think the request for such projects should come from the concerned > language projects, same for the list of articles. If not, in my simple > opinion, it is a form of coloniasm again. > > Jean-Philippe Béland > Vice President, Wikimedia Canada > > > On Sat, Feb 24,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-02-24 Thread John Erling Blad
, as the number of editors that can handle those will be pretty small. In particular: Do not believe you can turn a teanslator into a new editor! You can although turn an existing editor into a translator. On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 3:34 PM, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote: > 1) You m

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-02-24 Thread John Erling Blad
nslate into Chinese. > There the students translate and than their translations are reviewed by > their profs before being posted. They translate in groups using hackpad to > make it more social. > > I am currently working to re invigorate the project :-) > James > > O

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-02-24 Thread John Erling Blad
anguages > translation project. I could use some help drafting guidelines for how to > make priorities for what to translate given limited resources. > > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 7:51 AM, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > This discussion is going to b

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-02-24 Thread John Erling Blad
necessity if the purpose is to create local communities in the different languages. Think globally, act locally! On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 1:51 PM, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote: > This discussion is going to be fun! =D > > A little more than seventy Wikipedia-projects h

[Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-02-24 Thread John Erling Blad
This discussion is going to be fun! =D A little more than seventy Wikipedia-projects has more than 65k articles, the remaining two hundred or so are pretty small. What if a base set of articles were opened for paid translators? There are several lists of such base sets. We have both the thousand

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2019

2018-02-09 Thread John Erling Blad
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bybrunnen#Wikimania_2019 On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 9:37 PM, Sami Mlouhi wrote: > Congratulations Wikimedia Sweden ! > > > 2018-02-08 20:07 GMT+01:00 Tanweer Morshed : > > > Congratulations Wikimedia Sverige!

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

2018-01-25 Thread John Erling Blad
inside their > provider data (because put in the end of a small group of people is > "enough") or that the disaggregated information of CU activity is not > public for the majority of platforms... but someone cares so much if they > receive a welcoming message by bot when the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

2018-01-25 Thread John Erling Blad
I can't see that T42006 is relevant in this case. It is about abusive use of a bot, not about creation of the central account in itself. The existence of a central account leads to creation of the local account. This is probably acceptable. Then this may lead to the abusiv behavior, ie exposing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

2018-01-24 Thread John Erling Blad
If it has been discussed before, then it would be nice if someone can provide a pointer to that discussion. Den ons. 24. jan. 2018, 11.29 skrev Joseph Seddon : > This conversation started in the middle of the Christmas break following > which I suspect many staff took

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Siamese networks and image classification

2018-01-24 Thread John Erling Blad
having a little trouble with understanding your email from January > 15th. Could you perhaps state your question or point in a different way? > > Pine <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CatherineMunro/Bright_Places> > > On M

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Siamese networks and image classification

2018-01-15 Thread John Erling Blad
Commons mailing lists regarding this idea. You might also > make a suggestion in IdeaLab > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab>. > > Pine <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CatherineMunro/Bright_Places> >

[Wikimedia-l] Siamese networks and image classification

2018-01-14 Thread John Erling Blad
is like a fingerprint, and those fingerprints can be compared to other images with known fingerprints, or against a generalized fingerprint for a category. John Erling Blad ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

2017-12-30 Thread John Erling Blad
uld at least some parts be > >> reused > >> across languages in a robust and properly localizable manner? > >> * Is the talk page really a good place to do this? > >> * How useful is it for people for people who come from another language > >> and > >&

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

2017-12-30 Thread John Erling Blad
As I recall, communication with newcomers by templates was found to be a negative factor. Jeblad Den lør. 30. des. 2017, 16.58 skrev Jonathan Cardy < werespielchequ...@gmail.com>: > Hi Amir, > > It isn't too late to ask about the utility of welcome messages, but be > aware that there are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

2017-12-29 Thread John Erling Blad
ail.com>: > > > Have you asked the user how the finding the users? > > Have you considered other steps than just jumping to mailing list? > > Where are the complaints from the other users to show this is a long > > running issue? > > > > On 29 December 20

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

2017-12-29 Thread John Erling Blad
long > running issue? > > On 29 December 2017 at 19:20, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Users on other projects are complaining about the welcome messages at > > arwiki. A bot at that project are welcoming people that has no activity > at > > that p

[Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

2017-12-29 Thread John Erling Blad
Users on other projects are complaining about the welcome messages at arwiki. A bot at that project are welcoming people that has no activity at that project at all. The bot operator claims the activity is valid, but I can't see that this is a well-behaving bot at all.[1] I suspect the bot is

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