-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 3:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future of Wifi Offloading WAS: Ericsson is buying
BelAir, betting on Wi-Fi
There is no more advantage to V vs. H with dual
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 3:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future of Wifi Offloading WAS: Ericsson is buying
BelAir, betting on Wi-Fi
There is no more advantage to V vs. H with dual polarity equipment.
More
@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future of Wifi Offloading WAS: Ericsson is
buyingBelAir, betting on Wi-Fi
On Jan 26, 2012, at 11:22 PM, John Scrivner wrote:
Here are my predictions based partly upon the acquisitions we have
seen of Atheros by Qualcomm and now
.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future of Wifi Offloading WAS: Ericsson is
buyingBelAir, betting on Wi-Fi
On Jan 26, 2012, at 11:22 PM, John Scrivner wrote:
Here are my predictions based partly upon the acquisitions
On Jan 26, 2012, at 11:22 PM, John Scrivner wrote:
Here are my predictions based partly upon the acquisitions we have
seen of Atheros by Qualcomm and now this latest play into Wifi by
otherwise generally licensed zealots of the mobile world:
[snip]
I predict we'll see all this come to pass
Fiber to the AP is a great idea and the only way we will be able to meet
customer demand. Within 1 year I don't think I'll have any towers that
are more than 1 hop from fiber, with many directly on fiber.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 1/26/2012
Fellas, build a business plan around and obvious need of the operators
And remember that by wifi , they mean n and future versions which use 2.4 and
5.x ghz
Sent from my Motorola Startac...
On Jan 27, 2012, at 8:34 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
Fiber to the AP
Fiber to the AP? Why not just do an 802.11ac gigabit backhaul link to
the AP with the new Ubiquiti revolutionary radio? :)
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 6:21 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
Fiber to the AP is a great idea and the only way we will be able to meet
customer demand.
I am just making a prediction. I believe those with infrastructure in
the air and the ground will be deploying these micro-cell platforms
like crazy. Will you? Do you now?
Scriv
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote:
Fiber to the AP? Why not just do an
I'd rather use spectrum to service customers, not towers.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 1/27/2012 9:23 AM, Roger Howard wrote:
Fiber to the AP? Why not just do an 802.11ac gigabit backhaul link to
the AP with the new Ubiquiti revolutionary radio?
You can still use spectrum for customers as long as your back-haul links
use antennas with small beam widths, or run your back-haul links in
horizontal and customer links in vertical polarity. The fact that our
infrastructure is 100% wireless (outside our Internet upstream links)
has been a
There is no more advantage to V vs. H with dual polarity equipment.
More spectrum for customer access means more bits able to be moved. If I
have a gig of wireless backhaul coming into a tower, that's a gig I
could be using to make me money. I'd like to have 50 - 100 megabit plans
for my
-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Bret Clark
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 3:37 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future of Wifi Offloading WAS: Ericsson is buying
BelAir, betting on Wi-Fi
You can still use spectrum for customers
John,
I think this will happen faster than you predict. With the Lucent
light radio being software defined the technology already exists to do this.
Carrier engineering departments are just a bit slow to change. Carriers have
to look at the Pico cell design to increase capacity by more
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Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
We think so now, but is something that came out 5 years ago still good
enough? Maybe, though I'm leaning towards no. 10 years? No way.
Now, yes
http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/marketwire/0388456.htm
OR http://tinyurl.com/66rnd5
The nation's largest online marketplace for licensed broadband wireless
spectrum went live today, enabling businesses, government agencies and
communications service providers to quickly and easily
Thanks for the link; here are some quick thoughts...
1. Buying (or leasing) licensed spectrum sounds good... if the spectrum
and equipment costs are affordable.
2. Wouldn't it be nice to have quick and easy, affordable access to
spectrum that could be used for point-to-multipoint in a rural
This 28-31 GHz spectrum will probably only be useful for short-range
work where there are absolutely no obstructions end-to-end (like in big
city centers, etc.)
jack
What is the distance limitations and cost for PtP gear to do 28-31 GHz?
List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future -SPECTRUM MARKET PLACE
Thanks for the link; here are some quick thoughts...
1. Buying (or leasing) licensed spectrum sounds good... if the spectrum and
equipment costs are affordable.
2. Wouldn't it be nice to have quick and easy, affordable access to
spectrum
How could anyone ever get mad at you Marlon?!?! :-)
Jeff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
I just got back a customer
open throttle.
Customers love it.
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From: D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Chuck,
What speeds do you sell to your end customers at 128:1 oversub
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
And what do you use to control that bandwidth?
Chuck McCown wrote:
We sell 10.2 Mbps burst service. And most of them actually get that
speed.
If they start streaming or downloading a large file, we throttle them
down.
Most are at 768.
When
]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Well Mike, the way I see it is that the sky has been falling my entire
time
as an ISP (over a decade now).
WiMax is still a joke in the market place.
3G is too slow and too
such a system.
Main thing is to do it before the ILEC/RBOC does it.
- Original Message -
From: "Marlon K. Schafer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Well
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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Well Mike, the way I see it is that the sky has
been falling my entire
time
as an ISP (over a decade now).
WiMax is still a joke in the market place.
3G is too slow
case for building such a system.
Main thing is to do it before the ILEC/RBOC does it.
- Original Message -
From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Well Mike, the way I see
Panaway.
GPON
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From: Joe Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Chuck,
I'm currently working a proposal for FTTH for a 654
unit developement. I would like to know
Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Chuck McCown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Highly variable. TV content is costly. Everyone has different costs
?
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From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
The fiber would be good for 20 years and is the most costly part, but the
other pieces wouldn't be good for 20 years... I'd
on the begging leg of.
--
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Chuck McCown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
I have ONTs
of technology or protocol will.
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From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
We think so now, but is something that came out 5 years ago still good
enough? Maybe
: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Chuck,
Airspan / Aperto are both shipping 5x Ghz wimax products.
Throughput is about 26mb peak for the Airspan product on 10mhz
channels, and 22mb on the Aperto product in 7mhz channels. Also,
there
are ways to get around
-
From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future - a brief explanation on diversity
So what does all the below mean in practice? Well, a typical
arrangement, at least for our customers, in the 2.5
, April 23, 2008 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
comments inline.
On Apr 22, 2008, at 12:17 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Anyone doing a 20 MHz channel?
Not to my knowedge.
Would that be enough capacity to allow for typical oversubscription
on say a
10 meg client?
Certainly.
What does
, April 23, 2008 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
comments inline.
On Apr 22, 2008, at 12:17 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Anyone doing a 20 MHz channel?
Not to my knowedge.
Would that be enough capacity to allow for typical oversubscription
on say a
10 meg client?
Certainly.
What does
it.
- Original Message -
From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Well Mike, the way I see it is that the sky has been falling my entire
time
as an ISP (over a decade now
: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future - a brief explanation on diversity
So what does all the below mean in practice? Well, a typical
arrangement, at least for our customers, in the 2.5 GHz band is 3
sectors of 4th order diversity. That means one chassis with 3 blades.
Each
==
Cablefree Solutions Ltd,
www.cablefreesolutions.com
-Original Message-
From: Mike Hammett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 April 2008 20:37
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
From a spectral efficiency standpoint, WiMax is better than anything
Another bankruptcy waiting to happen.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: Travis Johnson
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Hi,
A new player just came
: Monday, April 21, 2008 11:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Another bankruptcy waiting to happen.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: Travis Johnson
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Monday
: 760.580.0080
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:55 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Regardless... my point is they have invested $40M and I am offering
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From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
That is not going to happen Tom. Not by a long shot. Nothing
fly-by-night about anything Kelley Dunne and Bill Wallace
those that have an outdoor CPE).
Patrick Leary
AVP, Market Development
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:55 AM
To: WISPA General Li
:55 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Regardless... my point is they have invested $40M and I am offering
higher speeds, for less money, with less cost per CPE and AP... and I
have 10x the coverage they do in my market.
The GM even mentioned and if Sprint or Clearwire were
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
My point was they are selling a 3mbps connection that doesn't
deliver... just like the cable companies and telcos... they are no
different. Fluff it all up and do whatever it takes to fool the
customer so they will sign up. I don't like it and I think
.
Patrick Leary
AVP, Market Development
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 11:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
- Original Message -
From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 1:02 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
One point you need to remember Travis is that that barely 1 mbps you
are getting is with a self-install CPE
wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 1:02 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
One point you need to remember Travis is that that barely 1 mbps you
are getting is with a self-install CPE that was either mailed to you or
you picked in a retail shop, correct? If so, you likely had it up
: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 6:42 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
For all the props Patrick is giving them for a self-install CPE it
would seem that the link budget isn't there for the service you
ordered. Most likely a professionally installed outdoor CPE would work
for you
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
Behalf Of Matt Liotta
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 6:42 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
For all the props Patrick is giving them for a self-install CPE it
would seem that the link budget
General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
We too rely heavily on software for determining the serviceability of
the customer. As part of this our software takes into account not only
antenna height and ground data, but also performs longley-rice loss
calculations that include fresnel clearance
To follow up on the quote below-
You'll have ups downs, but don't listen to the fear inside your head.
I would listen very closely to the fear inside your head. Don't let it
paralyze you, but listen to it. Fear is a great motivator and often
prevents us from doing some very foolish things.
Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:14 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
The press has been wrong most of time, causing companies like ours
great
headaches. The stupid 70 miles 30
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Providing High Speed Broadband
to Rural Central California
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
Behalf Of CHUCK PROFITO
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 10:01 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Patrick,
If not 70 miles
, 2008 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
To follow up on the quote below-
You'll have ups downs, but don't listen to the fear inside your head.
I would listen very closely to the fear inside your head. Don't let it
paralyze you, but listen to it. Fear is a great motivator and often
Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Jeff Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Chuck,
Airspan / Aperto are both shipping 5x Ghz wimax products.
Throughput is about
speed.
(more money too).
- Original Message -
From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Anyone doing a 20 MHz channel?
Would that be enough capacity to allow for typical
List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
That is pretty much what we do on Motorola Canopy.
20 MHz channels.
128:1 (or less) over subscription
10 Mbps
First AP and BH would be in the $5K range
Second AP would be in the $2K range. (depending on antennas etc).
We are waiting to see what the OFDM product
: D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Chuck,
What speeds do you sell to your end customers at 128:1 oversub?
(I am assuming that you never really go this high!) :)
ryan
-Original
, they go back to wide open throttle.
Customers love it.
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From: "D. Ryan Spott" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "'WISPA General List'" wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Chuck,
What speeds do you sell t
It is built into the Motorola Canopy platform. The AP and the SM do the
throttling.
- Original Message -
From: Randy Cosby
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
What do you use for throttling? Cisco policing? Mikrotik
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 12:18 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Anyone doing a 20 MHz channel?
Would that be enough capacity to allow for typical oversubscription on
say a
10 meg client?
What does it cost to get the first AP up ($5k, $15k, $50k)?
What does it cost
Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 3:05 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future - a brief explanation on diversity
Mike, et al,
As Jeff implied about coverage (and costs), with WiMAX it is all about
diversity so let me try to explain it a bit. It is not so simple as one
AP or two
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Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 3:26 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future - a brief explanation on diversity
So what does all the below mean in practice? Well, a typical
arrangement, at least for our customers
Well Mike, the way I see it is that the sky has been falling my entire time
as an ISP (over a decade now).
WiMax is still a joke in the market place.
3G is too slow and too expensive.
700 is not deployed in any level that matters and doesn't look like it will
be any time soon.
Cable is in
General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
You forgot satellite which is picking up steam.
Honestly.
Now is the time to sell! (hence one of the reasons I sold last month.)
Unless your servicing very rural area with almost
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Chuck McCown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
That is pretty much what we do on Motorola Canopy.
20 MHz channels.
128:1 (or less) over
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From: D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Chuck,
What speeds do you sell to your end customers at 128:1 oversub?
(I am assuming that you never really go this high!) :)
ryan
Hi,
A new player just came to my area... BridgeMaxx (a Digital Bridge
company). They are using Alvarion WiMax equipment. We have a test radio
that we play with. We have their "up to 3meg premium service" and we
barely get 1meg (any time we have tested over the last 3 months).
Here's the real
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Hi,
A new player just came to my area... BridgeMaxx (a Digital Bridge
company). They are using Alvarion WiMax equipment. We have a test radio
that we play with. We have their up to 3meg premium service and we
barely get 1meg (any time we have tested
: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:36 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Hi,
A new player just came to my area... BridgeMaxx (a Digital Bridge
company). They are using Alvarion WiMax equipment. We have a test radio
that we play with. We have their up to 3meg premium service
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:36 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Hi,
A new player just came to my area... BridgeMaxx (a Digital Bridge
company). They are using Alvarion WiMax equipment
Broadband Corp.
tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:36 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Hi,
A new player just came to my area
This depends on your market and how you're running your business. If you've
made decisions that were risky and didn't pan out, and you're getting phone
calls left and right and your kids don't see you... Sell and have a better
life.
For those of us who are working hard but not in crisis mode
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 6:36 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Hi,
A new player just came to my area... BridgeMaxx (a Digital Bridge
company). They are using Alvarion WiMax equipment. We have a test radio
that we play
time to come, and I agree 110%.
Patrick
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 9:26 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
WiMAX was dead, is dead and will remain dead. OK, not factually
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 6:36 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Hi,
A new player just came to my area... BridgeMaxx (a Digital Bridge
company). They are using Alvarion WiMax equipment. We have a test radio
that we
WiMax as hyped by the press is dead. No?
- Original Message -
From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
I agree with the vast majority of what Chuck says here and only
partially
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:55 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Regardless... my point is they have invested $40M and I am offering
higher speeds, for less money, with less cost per CPE and AP... and I
have 10x the coverage
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:57 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
WiMax as hyped by the press is dead. No?
- Original Message -
From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL
California
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:14 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
The press has been wrong most of time, causing companies like ours great
headaches. The stupid 70
This should be interesting...
Brad
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of CHUCK PROFITO
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 12:01 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Patrick,
If not 70 miles and 30 mbps,
what are the real
: Monday, April 21, 2008 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Patrick,
If not 70 miles and 30 mbps,
what are the real numbers on the fixed, for say:
2 miles los?
2 miles wooded?
5 m los?
5 m nlos?
10 m los?
10 m nlos
??
Is this a fair question?
Chuck Profito
209-988-7388
CV-ACCESS
than
802.11 or other UL PMP gear).
Patrick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of CHUCK PROFITO
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 10:01 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Patrick,
If not 70 miles and 30 mbps,
what are the real
Development
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 11:08 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
The official WiMax consultant
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Exactly. A couple weeks ago an Avarion rep called to discuss products
(cold
call?) and I asked what payload is expected from the 3650 WiMAX gear.
He
avoided the question by saying he wasn't at liberty to discuss that
information yet.
Redline was more
is
supposed to be able to do this but we haven't been able to test it yet.
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From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Of course it would Chuck. But in the case
OK, so what is the answer to the question below?
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From: CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 11:01 AM
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Patrick,
If not 70 miles and 30 mbps,
what are the real
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On
Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 1:08 PM
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The official WiMax consultant training session I went to, showed sub-
canopy
speeds beyond 7 miles.
I pointed that out in front of the group and just about got run out
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 11:25 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Brad, that's bull. The only reason any Alvarion person won't say what
the speed is is because they might not be sure, and since the 3650 is in
beta, no one Can say with honesty and certainty what the speeds
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 11:26 AM
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Speed is the only thing I have to sell. 5.4 has opened up plenty of BW
for
us now. I am fine with 20MHz channels
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Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 12:28 PM
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I interrupt this posting by announcing my recent test with the ubiquity
nano station 5 ...
Using 20 mhz channels, 24 Mbps downlink , 12 Mbps uplink ...
simultaneously ... not gad for a piece of $80
A. Villarini
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Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt Liotta
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 2:27 PM
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I am
Right, so do you have a grid, graph or nomograph or something that can give
us an idea?
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From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
I get that Chuck. I was just
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On
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Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 2:27 PM
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I am not sure you are comparing apples to apples here. We have
deployed a number of Redline 3.65 radios. Which UL radio provides more
payload in a single
Scott
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Holy bat guano robin. I was hoping these things would be a good filler
for
the smaller areas.
Do they have a down up ratio adjust to make them symmetrical for BH use?
Any range data?
Can they do Canopy ranges?
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From: Gino Villarini
] On
Behalf Of Matt Liotta
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 11:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
We see 10Mbps FDX with iperf in 7Mhz channels on the Redline gear. For
those who pay attention, this is a layer 3 test over 802.1q with 1500
MTU using a 5ms TDD. Oh yeah
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On
Behalf Of Matt Liotta
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 11:40 AM
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We see 10Mbps FDX with iperf in 7Mhz channels on the Redline gear. For
those who pay attention, this is a layer 3 test over 802.1q with 1500
MTU using a 5ms TDD. Oh yeah
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Of course it would Chuck. But in the case of Canopy speeds being higher,
that is strictly because it uses 4x the channel (20 MHz for the Canopy
vs. 5 MHz for 2.5 GHz WiMAX).
By the way, the VL would in turn smoke the Canopy and do it in the same
channel size
,
Brad
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 1:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Brad, that's bull. The only reason any Alvarion person won't say what
the speed is is because
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