On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 01:40:41 -0600 (CST), Butch Evans wrote
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2007, wispa wrote:
>
> >This is the FCC declaring that EVERY MEANS OF COMMUNICATION BE
> >PRE-TAPPED at the expense of industry.
>
> WHAT? You are not correct. This is the LEA asking for a means to
> collect data on
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007, wispa wrote:
This is the FCC declaring that EVERY MEANS OF COMMUNICATION BE
PRE-TAPPED at the expense of industry.
WHAT? You are not correct. This is the LEA asking for a means to
collect data on suspected criminals. They will have to have a
subpoena to gather the dat
1. Here's a question: for those who don't have symmetric rates to/from
the internet (I have 1meg down and , supposedly 128k up, but often it's
something like 24 up, satellite you know...) streaming just will not
work. Can we store and forward? Or in general, are they taking into
account the
I don't know the answer, I would assume us the isp would be the
responsible party.
I suppose you will have to charge more as well.
But thats a legit question that will be asked. And a good one too.
Rick Smith wrote:
thanks Marlon...
Got one more for you - what about the hotels that hook u
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Rick Smith wrote:
OK, Don't point me to some confusing URL I don't have time (or
patience) to read about how to comply with CALEA.
The most difficult thing about the CALEA compliance issue is that
the format of the data has not, yet, been finalized. This makes it
imposs
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007, Mac Dearman wrote:
The patient has at least one of the following that is not a
culturally sanctioned response:
1. Delusions
2. Hallucinations
3. Speech that is markedly disorganized
4. Behavior that is markedly disorganized or catatonic.
Mac! I didn't know you were a s
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 01:03:27 -0600, Joe Laura wrote
> My only question is if we do not know for sure exactly what we need
> to be compliant by 5/14/07 is it smart to sign on the dotted line
> saying we will be compliant? Am I missing something?
The part that gets me... You have to state that you
Well ask a question and we'll see.
Guess if I'm supposed to be the messenger, it's me.
If someone wants me to go and ask ridiculous politically radical
questions, then forget about it. They can just dial the number and ask
themselves.
But a non political real question is no problem.
George
My only question is if we do not know for sure exactly what we need to be
compliant by 5/14/07 is it smart to sign on the dotted line saying we will
be compliant? Am I missing something?
Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
www.superior1.com
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:44:20 -0800, George Rogato wrote
> wispa wrote:
>
> > You actually think that the "big guys" will actually let that happen?
>
> Yeah, I can see it now, our upstreams turning CALEA compliance into
> a profit center.
>
> Anyways if you want to bring your own tape recorder
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:55:19 -0600, Mac Dearman wrote
> It's going to be to easy Rick. If everyone will hold their horses
> and just "trot" for a short time they will get everything lined out.
> The ability to stream live data is already in place here and it's
> cheap. I don't know why it wouldn
George - who decides what is "reasonable" or not ? Is this a personal
decision ?
Sorry to stick a thorn in here, but, I think Mark's questions are valid
and should be asked on behalf of WISPA.
JohnnyO
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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 00:49:52 -0500, Rick Smith wrote
> OK, Don't point me to some confusing URL I don't have time
> (or patience) to read about how to comply with CALEA.
>
> How would you provide the "hook" in so the FBI could just
> listen in at any time (is that the way it works ? Or do
> th
thanks Marlon...
Got one more for you - what about the hotels that hook up to me for
"virtual" hotspot authentication / billing services through Mikrotik's
hotspot mechanism... am I or the Hotel responsible for capture ? heh.
I'm sure there's many more questions...
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30+ existing subs from that tower.
Besides, I'm not putting up ANY WiFi based 5 gig gear. I'm not gonna go
down that interference road again.
I may change my mind for some really small systems, but those ones aren't
likely to have spectrum issues anyway so why bother?
I'm really liking
Rick,
I've been talking with both the FCC and FBI. It's up in the air yet, but it
looks like calea compliance won't be that big of a deal. We'll know much
more after the Thursday meetings our guys are having.
Here's what I understand so far I've gotten this from the head of the
FBI's
George, I'm not sure if you got the note yet. But you guys are going to the
Hoover building for that meeting! Into the belly of the beast! grin
What *I'd* like to see happen is two fold.
A: What the heck do we really have to do, in plain English please, in order
to be compliant.
B: You gu
Why don't you do it in 5 gig and skip the 2 gig - amp?
The more I do this stuff the more I think 2 gig is short and 5 gig is long.
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
Hi All,
I have to put in a system that'll do 17 miles ptp. I can do it today
with a 500mw amp and 8dB omni.
Anyone used one of these?
Get me in there!.
Include me in WISPA 445 Filing
WaveCrazy Communications
Rick Herrmann wrote:
"Include me in WISPA 445 Filing"
Zing LLC
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Hi All,
I have to put in a system that'll do 17 miles ptp. I can do it today with a
500mw amp and 8dB omni.
Anyone used one of these?
http://www.gnswireless.com/DLB2700.htm
Is there any receive gain on them? If it's only -80ish receive sensitivity
it won't be able to do the same range as a
It's going to be to easy Rick. If everyone will hold their horses and just
"trot" for a short time they will get everything lined out. The ability to
stream live data is already in place here and it's cheap. I don't know why
it wouldn't be acceptable as it would be the live data stream they would a
OK, Don't point me to some confusing URL I don't have time
(or patience) to read about how to comply with CALEA.
What are YOU as a WISP doing to comply ?
How much is it costing you ?
What technology ?
How would you provide the "hook" in so the FBI could just
listen in at any time (is that
Ya know Mac, not funny, at the same time, funny.
I think Mark's got a point, albeit dooms-day-ish.
There's no fiscal or physical way small WISPs can comply
with CALEA, and I want to know HOW SPECIFICALLY to do it,
if you think it CAN be done...
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You actually think that the "big guys" will actually let that happen?
Yeah, I can see it now, our upstreams turning CALEA compliance into a
profit center.
Anyways if you want to bring your own tape recorder up to the feds and
ask them some questions, go for it.
But the of
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:22:12 -0600, JohnnyO wrote
I'm not a pessimist at all. I just know what federal regulation means. It
means WE GO AWAY.
Federal regulation is the DEATH of small business. I have no doubt the
Telcos and Cablecos are no doubt celebrating big time. What they could not
d
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:04:37 -0800, George Rogato wrote
> I predict the little guy will end up giving all his subs publics and
> passing the ball to their upstreams, and probably-most likely for a
> price. I find it hard to believe this is not going to be an option.
You actually think that the
Doom and Gloom eh Mark ? Damn man - the big pessimist (sp?)
JohnnyO
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:46:13 -0500, Ri
I predict the little guy will end up giving all his subs publics and
passing the ball to their upstreams, and probably-most likely for a
price. I find it hard to believe this is not going to be an option.
We'll find out more Thursday when we meet at the Hoover Building in DC
to talk to the FB
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:46:13 -0500, Rick Smith wrote
> I think I'm going to be the first to say this, but
> I don't have time to give a crap about calea. I'm
> taking advantage of an industry organization to do
> something on my behalf, because I can't have the
> time to give a crap later when t
So, what do you think CALEA compliance will cost you?
Got a number yet, or have you promised compliance without knowing the price
tag?
I said that not resisting regulation would kill us.
The process has begun. We marched in to be fleeced, smiling and bleating
softly.
Been nice knowing
I think I'm going to be the first to say this, but
I don't have time to give a crap about calea. I'm
taking advantage of an industry organization to do
something on my behalf, because I can't have the
time to give a crap later when the FCC comes knocking
after finding out I DIDN'T file...
Now,
Doesn't have to be certified with the exact antennas. Only something of the
same type and at least as high of a gain.
I didn't say my network was perfect, only that I'm trying to get it that
way.
I've tested a LOT of hardware out there. If I like it and it'll work for
me, I push for ce
Include me in WISPA 445 Filing
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
Gino A. Villarini
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Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
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On 2/12/07, John Scrivner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kris Twomey has told me he can do this and that it will meet the
requirements for filing. It is not a terribly difficult thing to do but
it is just easy to use an attorney for anything like this. I do not
bother trying to meet every legal filin
Erik - are you a paid member of WISPA ?
JohnnyO
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On 2/12/07, John Scrivner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"Include me in WISPA 445 Filing"
Eric Rogers
Precision Data Solutions, LLC
7 W Main Street
Mooresville, IN 46158
(317) 831-3000
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Kris Twomey has told me he can do this and that it will meet the
requirements for filing. It is not a terribly difficult thing to do but
it is just easy to use an attorney for anything like this. I do not
bother trying to meet every legal filing requirement. I consider that my
attorney's job an
I don't know what he means, for sure by "bad".
I guess as far as physical strength goes, it depends on the railing.
As far as signal pattern goes, if he means an omni, then that isn't a really
great use of your RF.
And if he means having a sector on the railing is somehow bad- I don't know.
My pro
A Canadian company that I was talking to thought it was just a matter of
time until they had the same sort of regs.
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John.
Include CV-Access, Inc.
Thanks,
Tim Kerns
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Kris Twomey says he can handle our filing on behalf of all WISPA members
a
"Include me in WISPA 445 Filing" Washington Broadband, Inc.
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On 2/12/07, John Scrivner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If you are a paid WISPA Principal Member then you do not have to worry
about filing your CALEA Form 445. Kris Twomey is handling it for all
paid WISPA Principal Members who want it done for them. They are
allowing later filing now. Kris will be
"Include me in WISPA 445 Filing"
Zing LLC
Thanks!
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If you are a paid WISPA Princ
Boy...if that's not a valuable service justifying my dues.
- Cliff
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If you are a pai
Just paid up... include RTPS Networks, Inc. d/b/a Near You Networks
THANKS! AWESOME IDEA!
R
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Kris
Ok I paid up
Please include us in CALEA filing
Intelliwave, LLC
Thanks
Chris Cooper
Intelliwave, LLC
740.592.0322
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Include NetsurfUSA, Inc. in the WISPA 445 filing for CALEA.
Don Renner
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No problem. Kris says there is no penalty for this.
Scriv
cw wrote:
No, thank you. I've already wasted most of the day completing the
forms but our post office run for the day is already gone. So, I was
wondering if our forms could be post marked Tuesday instead of Monday.
- cw
John Scrivn
John please include us, COLI Inc.
Bill Gaylord
COLI Inc
John Scrivner wrote:
If you are a paid WISPA Principal Member then you do not have to worry
about filing your CALEA Form 445. Kris Twomey is handling it for all
paid WISPA Principal Members who want it done for them. They are
allowing la
"Include me in WISPA 445 Filing"
APGWireless, LLC
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If you are a paid WISPA Principa
No, thank you. I've already wasted most of the day completing the forms but
our post office run for the day is already gone. So, I was wondering if our
forms could be post marked Tuesday instead of Monday. - cw
John Scrivner wrote:
Kris Twomey says he can handle our filing on behalf of all WISP
Mark Nash from UnwiredOnline.Net has been part of this WISPA list for a
while and now he has made his connection to WISPA official by becoming a
Principal WISPA Member. We thank you, Mark, for formalizing your
relationship with WISPA and for making your contribution to the efforts
which will g
Kris Twomey says he can handle our filing on behalf of all WISPA members
and that he can do it with just a company name for now. He will file for
all of WISPA operators who wish and include company names of those who
want to be included. No names will be included who have already filed
themselves
You would have to take it up with Kris. He knows this stuff better than
me. That is why I pay him to handle my FCC legal work. I would have made
the offer sooner had we been in touch sooner. Kris and I have been very
out of touch with our schedules lately. I am moving my office and Kris
has bee
Kris Twomey says he can handle our filing on behalf of all WISPA members
and that he can do it with just a company name for now. He will file for
all of WISPA operators who wish and include company names of those who
want to be included. No names will be included who have already filed
themselv
Wish you guys had made this offer sooner. We are Part-15.org and
WISPA member and have already gone the Part-15 route.
What is Kris putting in Form 445 though? Just wander how it differs
from Part-15's?
Matt
If you are a paid WISPA Principal Member then you do not have to worry
about filing
This is wonderful but you would need our FRN. Are you saying we don't have
to have this postmarked today?
John Scrivner wrote:
If you are a paid WISPA Principal Member then you do not have to worry
about filing your CALEA Form 445. Kris Twomey is handling it for all
paid WISPA Principal Member
Please include me in the WISPA 445 filing Rabbit Meadows Technology, LLC
On 2/12/07, John Scrivner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If you are a paid WISPA Principal Member then you do not have to worry
about filing your CALEA Form 445. Kris Twomey is handling it for all
paid WISPA Principal Mem
Hey Harold, didn't you tell me you had some antennas certified with your
Compex radio modules?
Scriv
Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:
Compex was fully certified for the antennas you used? hmmm
Lonnie
On 2/12/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Hi All,
I have a water
Sorry I forgot the link, Deliberant - http://www.deliberant.com/
By the waythey have great prices too.
Scriv
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
Hi All,
I have a water tower that's kicking my tail. I've been through a slug
of sb and inscape and compex ap's. Everything works for a
"Include me in WISPA 445 Filing".
UnwiredOnline.Net, LLC
Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
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Deliberant. They make great gear, they are certified radios, they are
WISPA Vendor members, their gear works well and it has lightning
protection built in.
Scriv
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
Hi All,
I have a water tower that's kicking my tail. I've been through a slug
of sb and
If you are a paid WISPA Principal Member then you do not have to worry
about filing your CALEA Form 445. Kris Twomey is handling it for all
paid WISPA Principal Members who want it done for them. They are
allowing later filing now. Kris will be filing on behalf of all paid
WISPA Principal Membe
I know this question will get a lot of
varied response, but I
figured I'd throw it out there.
I'm in the middle of investing / biz
plans, etc... Trying to
come up with a number for what we would
theoretically spend to
reinvent the company so-to-speak and get
the name known.
Looking at radio /
DONE
Mac Dearman
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Subject: [WISPA] Photo needed- sector or omni on elevated water tank
I'm working on a small town project and need
Compex was fully certified for the antennas you used? hmmm
Lonnie
On 2/12/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi All,
I have a water tower that's kicking my tail. I've been through a slug of sb
and inscape and compex ap's. Everything works for a little while then
Your idea of using the PDA/AP should work very well. We are in the
process of building such a set of equipment. We don't use Tranzeo, only
Alvarion and Mikrotik, so I'm not sure of its configuration interface
and protocol, but for platforms like the LiteStation2/5 or any unit with
a web-based "GUI"
We use the railing.
I suppose it depends on the rail.
Marlon
(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
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Conduit is a terrible way to ground anything. I remember many years ago
fighting a problem for over a year. System ran great in the summer, not
worth a nickel in the winter. Finally determine a voltage difference
between 2 units sitting 5 feet from each other. Had an electrician do
some inv
Last time I looked those aren't very small. The sb boxes are only 6x6x2.
Probably a little less than that. I don't have room for much more up there.
Marlon
(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865
I was at a meeting a few nights back and another ISP informed me that on the
railing system is bad. Said it would not work. Anyone else have this
going. Or was I missinformed?
Ross
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I'm working on a small town project and need to come up with a photo or two
for some council members to see at a meeting tonight.
Can anyone send me a pic of either a 900 omni or sector on an elevated
water tank (mounted on the railing).
I'm planning on using a sector, but I'd like both pics to sh
we're in a metal conduit that we're in, it ties my box at the bottom of the
tower to the box on the top. I've looked at voltage and grounding issues as
closely as I can. My thought has always been a grounding issue too.
laters,
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This is half-way there for the 1-person install. I'd like to have a
solution where an installer can test (ping test/bandwidth test/snr test)
from the proposed CPE antenna mount location WITHOUT screwing the mount on.
This means the installer will have to be holding the CPE in place WHILE
running t
Alvarion
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
Hi All,
I have a water tower that's kicking my tail. I've been through a slug
of sb and inscape and compex ap's. Everything works for a little while
then either outright dies or starts flaking out.
Power seems to be fine, and there are NO
No, the tx power won't help with a site survey.
AND that little antenna can't have more than a couple of dB of gain...
I still like my Lucent Gold card with a 24 dB grid.
Marlon
(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consultin
Check to see if you have "stray" voltage from a good ground to the water
tower itself.
It is actually a very common thing - and can cause equipment to do very very
strange things.
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Sent: Monda
Hi All,
I have a water tower that's kicking my tail. I've been through a slug of sb
and inscape and compex ap's. Everything works for a little while then
either outright dies or starts flaking out.
Power seems to be fine, and there are NO pumps at this local. I've got
grounding and lightn
I guess it wouldn't hurt to provide a link eh? :-)
http://www.ccbsure.com/Home.aspx
Mac Dearman
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Dave,
It would be a MISTAKE to not check these folks out. I have had insurance
here for years, but I can honestly say that I have never ha a claim so I
can't tell you if they pay or not. LOL
I do know they will take your money, give you a web log in that enables you
to add (& print) your own ce
There is only one person to handle tower
insurance. (Now to open that can o' worms)
http://www.towerinsurance.net/
David Saul. The best.
Tell him I said to call. He can handle most other
insurance needs, but in the tower industry he is the
person to call.
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Fr
Hello Gang, and Happy Monday.
I'm wondering what kind of insurance y'all use
for your businesses? Particularly insuring towers
and access points against weather damage, lighting,
wind, etc. or do you self-insure.
What about liability? Installer Accident?
Any advise will be appreciated.
Dave Br
As most of you know, we have a mailing list for every state designed
specifically for WISPs to communicate with each other on a more local basis
to keep up with legislative issues and local opportunities. We really need
someone to step up in each state and try to organize each of these lists and
i
Brian,
Buy a Tranzeo TR-CPQ 19 and then all you have to do is lock onto the
correct AP before going up. It's a lot easier to plug the POE in at the
truck and drag up a 100' or so of CAT5 cable and just watch the lights on
the CPE. Every light has a minimum db signal level associated with.
Mac D
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