[WISPA] Equipment Suppliers & Manufacturers
Can I have a list of the above for the 900 & 3.4 - 3.5 (Municipal) frequencies please -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] CRTC Contact
I am looking for the contact name of the above. I think Marlon sent something. I have looked in my archive and cannot find anything. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CRTC Contact
Canadian version of your FCC. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer wrote: what's crtc? marlon - Original Message - From: "Carl A Jeptha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:03 PM Subject: [WISPA] CRTC Contact I am looking for the contact name of the above. I think Marlon sent something. I have looked in my archive and cannot find anything. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CRTC Contact
ok will look around You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer wrote: A. Look through the archives for Cindy Lee. I might still have her contact info somewhere if you can't find it in the archives. marlon - Original Message - From: "Carl A Jeptha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:17 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CRTC Contact Canadian version of your FCC. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer wrote: what's crtc? marlon - Original Message - From: "Carl A Jeptha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:03 PM Subject: [WISPA] CRTC Contact I am looking for the contact name of the above. I think Marlon sent something. I have looked in my archive and cannot find anything. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo
Ask Marlon, how put up a tower on the cheap. Nothing like a wheel rim and Muffler Pipe. But today he may claim it wasn't him, because he now wears suits to work. But we have witnesses. :-D Don't ask, don't think, join. It is people like Marlon and the other cohorts and other fools like me who made this a viable industry. BTW Marlon are you still farming??? You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha KyWiFi LLC wrote: I just joined the WISPA list this past week to see what it's all about. I don't know much about WISPA at this point so that's why I'm here. Is there a page somewhere on the WISPA web site that lists all members? I would be interested in seeing who are members. We are a member of KYISPA (Kentucky Association of ISP's) and several of the member ISP's are also deploying wireless but I haven't heard any of them mention WISPA. At our next monthly meeting, I plan on getting their input to see if any of them are members. I'm not a big fan of joining non-local organizations but WISPA looks like a good group to be associated with so that's why I'm giving it a look. Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky http://www.KyWiFi.com http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com Phone: 859.274.4033 A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider == Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com == - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo I understand the problem. Pony up the $250 bucks or whatever and help us get some spectrum. The FCC only listens if we have $$, so pony it up! Join TODAY! KyWiFi LLC wrote: We aren't using the WISPA logo cause we aren't members of WISPA. The tower image was actually designed by a local vinyl/sign shop, I think they got it from a clip art CD, not sure. It does resemble the tower image used in the WISPA logo so maybe whoever designed the WISPA logo got it from the same or similar clip art gallery or CD? Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky http://www.KyWiFi.com http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com Phone: 859.274.4033 A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider == Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com == - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo Not sure about the logo, my guess is, no. Has to be the whole wispa logo, not just part of it. I know Bob (if it's the same Bob Smith), he's a good guy. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: JohnnyO To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 11:18 PM Subject: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo Are we all able to use the WISPA logo like this ? http://www.kywifi.com/images/vptower/CIMG5548.jpg Also - came across this post on tower talk , figured we all may be able to learn a little bit about house cleaning from this. Who is Bob Smith ? *Bob Smith Wrote* HI All, I'm a wireless network consultant in my 'other life' and thought you all might get a real charge out of seeing what some people call a 'commercial tower install' The tower in the pictures is used by a TV translator system , but a new WISP in Ky. is thinking of putting up a system on the tower also. He is experiencing a whole lot of electrical noise when he mounts his antennas on the tower, but he can hold them in his hand, not mounted, and the noise goes away. So now he's thinking of wrapping the mounts with electrical tape to insulate them from the tower and install his equipment. (Good electrical practice?) My comment to him was "tie a cable to his bumper and to the tower and drive away from the tower, this way he would be doing both the tower owner and himself a favor". No kidding aside, as you can see in the pictures (#13 - #27) the tower is a mess. http://www.kywifi.com/images/vptower/index.php Gawd, ham's get hassled in California
Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo
oh, just for a moment I thought you made a mistake. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha George wrote: Oh, except for Johnny O. :) Hah just kidding, Johnny O is our wild wispa guy. Any time you have problems with someone, contact him and he'll help you straighten them out. George JohnnyO wrote: Wow - Thank you George - I've never been more flattered ! ! ! ! ! JohnnyO On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 11:10 -0800, George wrote: Well Shannon, WELCOME ABOARD! This list is made up of some of the best people you would want to collaborate with. George KyWiFi LLC wrote: I just joined the WISPA list this past week to see what it's all about. I don't know much about WISPA at this point so that's why I'm here. Is there a page somewhere on the WISPA web site that lists all members? I would be interested in seeing who are members. We are a member of KYISPA (Kentucky Association of ISP's) and several of the member ISP's are also deploying wireless but I haven't heard any of them mention WISPA. At our next monthly meeting, I plan on getting their input to see if any of them are members. I'm not a big fan of joining non-local organizations but WISPA looks like a good group to be associated with so that's why I'm giving it a look. Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky http://www.KyWiFi.com http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com Phone: 859.274.4033 A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo
See Inline, Sorry for the late response, have become a "person of
influence" in the community so was a regular Monday meeting.
You have a Good Day now,
Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
Hiya Carl!
You really need to stop telling
those awful lies about me! As you can clearly see, we have nothing but
the best these days!
http://www.odessaoffice.com/wireless/images/45deg.htm
AHHH the Marlon I remember
http://www.odessaoffice.com/wireless/new_office/index.htm
OOOHHH, we are doing well
http://www.odessaoffice.com/wireless/images/misc/Priceless.htm
Now we talking, I see the end of the tower climber as we know it, and
to think I just bought a additions to my harness
Haven't done much farming for a
couple of years now. Too busy with the WISP gig.
What did we wisps do to deserve this
How's your system doing these days?
Long time no talk.
I think we may be on the right track, we are expanding with microcells
and clients. But it can be trying some times.
laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services
42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
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Original Message -
From:
Carl
A Jeptha
To:
WISPA
General List
Sent:
Monday, February 20, 2006 11:13 AM
Subject:
Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo
Ask Marlon, how put up a tower on the cheap. Nothing like a wheel rim
and Muffler Pipe. But today he may claim it wasn't him, because he now
wears suits to work. But we have witnesses. :-D
Don't ask, don't think, join. It is people like Marlon and the other
cohorts and other fools like me who made this a viable industry.
BTW Marlon are you still farming???
You have a Good Day now,
Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha
KyWiFi LLC wrote:
I just joined the WISPA list this past week to see what it's
all about. I don't know much about WISPA at this point
so that's why I'm here. Is there a page somewhere on the
WISPA web site that lists all members? I would be interested
in seeing who are members. We are a member of KYISPA
(Kentucky Association of ISP's) and several of the member
ISP's are also deploying wireless but I haven't heard any of
them mention WISPA. At our next monthly meeting, I plan
on getting their input to see if any of them are members. I'm
not a big fan of joining non-local organizations but WISPA
looks like a good group to be associated with so that's why
I'm giving it a look.
Sincerely,
Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
http://www.KyWiFi.com
http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com
Phone: 859.274.4033
A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider
==
Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and
UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69!
No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles
FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com
==
- Original Message -
From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo
I understand the problem. Pony up the $250 bucks or whatever and help
us get some spectrum. The FCC only listens if we have $$, so pony it
up! Join TODAY!
KyWiFi LLC wrote:
We aren't using the WISPA logo cause we aren't members
of WISPA. The tower image was actually designed by a local
vinyl/sign shop, I think they got it from a clip art CD, not sure.
It does resemble the tower image used in the WISPA logo so
maybe whoever designed the WISPA logo got it from the
same or similar clip art gallery or CD?
Sincerely,
Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
http://www.KyWiFi.com
http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com
Phone: 859.274.4033
A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider
==
Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and
UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69!
No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles
FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com
==
- Original Message -
From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo
Not sure about the logo, my guess is, no. Has to be the whole wispa logo, not just part
of it.
I know Bob (if it's the same Bob Smith), he's a good guy.
Marlon
(509) 982-2181
Re: [WISPA] 5.8ghz low power distance limitations
8km link tr5a-24f - tr5a-nf (16db 60* sector) gives me -80 rssi - speed 24mbps 13km link tr5a-24f - tr5a-nf (16db 60* sector) gives me -82 rssi - speed 24mbps 16km link tr5a-24f - tr5a-nf (16db 60* sector) gives me -93 rssi - speed 6mbps Oh, the 24f was in the car, because it was cold on that day. :-[ Some day's I make mistakes, other days I do just fine, and the Tranzeo rollout decision was on one of my better days. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Kurt Fankhauser wrote: How much range can I expect to get with a 802.11a setup with 13db radio’s and 24db panel antennas? The reason I am asking is because I am thinking about using a pair of Tranzeo TR-5a-24f for a 5 mile link but I am skeptical about the low power. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Good Evening Folks
I called him Dad back then, do I now call him, Granddad??? You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Mark Koskenmaki wrote: Wow, I had actually forgotten this name... I can't beleive I've hung around this bunch long enough for famous folks to vanish into near obscurity :) Hope we entertain ya :) North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: "Roger Boggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: [WISPA] Good Evening Folks Bored to tears in a hotel room outside of Richmond, VA so I thought I'd jump onto this list and see who's here and what we're talking about lately. Haven't been doing much outdoor wireless stuff for more than a year now.. All indoor - mostly in hospitals and warehouses in support of RFID installations.. Just seeing what's hot and what's not these days. Carry on. Roger Boggs -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MUM - whose going?
If none of your other deserving Katrina assistants wants one I'll take one. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Mac Dearman wrote: Mikrotik is holding their first ever U.S. MUM (MikroTik Users Meeting) in Dallas, TX, May 4-5th, 2006. There will also be a training class scheduled for the three days prior to MUM. I have a few free passes due to Katrina work - - any takers? More info here: http://mum.mikrotik.com/ Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. Authorized Barracuda Reseller MikroTik RouterOS Certified www.inetsouth.com www.mac-tel.us www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief) Rayville, La. 318.728.8600 318.303.4227 318.303.4229 - Original Message - From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services --SomeObservations Quote: "> IT'S OBVIOUSLY MORE THAN "JUST" TECHNOLOGY... " yes, it is. More to the point, it's about meeting your customer's needs or wants. Not shoving things at them they don't need or want, but genuinely discovering what it is that sparks them to buy in the first place. I desperately need a GOOD VOIP wholesale deal, where I own the customer and do frontline support, it's my own brand (if I brand it) and I merely bulk buy minutes, numbers, and CPE.I can't sell my customers a 400 minute account that costs me 25 bucks a month. They can buy Packet8 for less than most resell deals. I'd rather just bundle a VOIP service in a higher level tier (let's move from 38 / mo to 55 or 60/mo ) of service, but needs to be affordable for me to do. Still, nobody's offering this kind of service, that I can find. Either it is sold as raw products (requiring me to build a whole VOIP system for my customers use) or as higher than retail priced "wholesale" programs. What I really need, then, is someone who does more of the backend stuff (including providing e911) but does so in mass quantity, and doesn't "touch" my customer. I've also found that pc service can be a good side venture, but I'm not convinced that we can actually compete on price with the computer store. If we're busy, it's better value for our time to install and support our own services. Just random thoughts on the topic... North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cc: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:45 PM Subject: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services -- SomeObservations Generally, we end up debating all day and all night on the lists of "what's the best radio" or "who's got those cool blue lights" -- however, FWIW, I've noticed that there seldom is any debate on "useful" topics like sales & marketing (especially of the product positioning of license-exempt wireless) Do we call it wDSL? Wireless? More than Wifi? WiMAX? -- who knows? But fuel the fire with a few observations - - ARPU is an acronym for the Average Revenue per User. This is the average revenue factored across all customers as if each were charged the same price -- with some customers charged less and others more. Customer type usually determines price. In addition, a Network Operator's valuation is a direct multiple of its ARPU. The Marginal Recurring Cost (MRC) as compared to its Service Level / Marginal Recurring Revenue (MRR) of delivering the following license-exempt broadband wireless "WiMAX" connections have been calculated as follows: Broadband "Lite" Residential Service (512 / 512 Kb Burstable) MRR: $24.95 MRC: $20 Best Effort Residential Service (5 Mb / 512 Kb Burstable) MRR: $39.95 MRC: $20 Best Effort Business Class Service (5 Mb / 1 Mb Burstable) MRR: $149.95 MRC: $25 Dedicated Business Class Service (5 Mb / 3 Mb Burstable) (1 Mb / 1 Mb Dedicated) MRR: $249.95 MRC: $30 Dedicated Business SLA Service (5 Mb / 3 Mb Burstable) (3 Mb / 3 Mb Dedicated) MRR: $449.95 MRC: $40 Looking at the numbers, it's obvious that a higher ARPU increases the overall health of the bottom line. Interestingly enough, all the following service plans are achieved using the EXACT SAME license-exempt broadband w
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MUM - whose going?
why? are you coming :-) You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha JohnnyO wrote: oh jeez - there goes the neighborhood - Someone call ahead to the Texas Rangers to let them know ! JohnnyO On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 12:04 -0500, Carl A Jeptha wrote: If none of your other deserving Katrina assistants wants one I'll take one. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Mac Dearman wrote: > Mikrotik is holding their first ever U.S. MUM (MikroTik Users > Meeting) in Dallas, TX, May 4-5th, 2006. There will also be a > training class scheduled for the three days prior to MUM. > > I have a few free passes due to Katrina work - - any takers? > > > More info here: > http://mum.mikrotik.com/ > > > Mac Dearman > Maximum Access, LLC. > Authorized Barracuda Reseller > MikroTik RouterOS Certified > www.inetsouth.com > www.mac-tel.us > www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief) > Rayville, La. > 318.728.8600 > 318.303.4227 > 318.303.4229 > > > > > > - Original Message - From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:08 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services > --SomeObservations > > >> Quote: "> IT'S OBVIOUSLY MORE THAN "JUST" TECHNOLOGY... " >> >> yes, it is. More to the point, it's about meeting your customer's >> needs or >> wants. >> >> Not shoving things at them they don't need or want, but genuinely >> discovering what it is that sparks them to buy in the first place. >> >> I desperately need a GOOD VOIP wholesale deal, where I own the >> customer and >> do frontline support, it's my own brand (if I brand it) and I merely >> bulk >> buy minutes, numbers, and CPE.I can't sell my customers a 400 minute >> account that costs me 25 bucks a month. They can buy Packet8 for >> less than >> most resell deals. >> >> I'd rather just bundle a VOIP service in a higher level tier (let's move >> from 38 / mo to 55 or 60/mo ) of service, but needs to be affordable >> for me >> to do. Still, nobody's offering this kind of service, that I can find. >> Either it is sold as raw products (requiring me to build a whole VOIP >> system >> for my customers use) or as higher than retail priced "wholesale" >> programs. >> >> What I really need, then, is someone who does more of the backend stuff >> (including providing e911) but does so in mass quantity, and doesn't >> "touch" my customer. >> >> I've also found that pc service can be a good side venture, but I'm not >> convinced that we can actually compete on price with the computer >> store. If >> we're busy, it's better value for our time to install and support our >> own >> services. >> >> Just random thoughts on the topic... >> >> >> >> >> North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 >> personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net >> sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net >> Fast Internet, NO WIRES! >> >> >> - >> - Original Message - From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com> >> Cc: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:45 PM >> Subject: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services -- >> SomeObservations >> >> >>> Generally, we end up debating all day and all night on the lists of >> "what's >>> the best radio" or "who's got those cool blue lights" -- however, FWIW, >> I've >>> noticed that there seldom is any debate on "useful" topics like sales & >>> marketing (especially of the product positioning of license-exempt >> wireless) >>> >>> Do we call it wDSL? Wireless? More than Wifi? WiMAX? -- who knows? But >> fuel >>> the fire with a few observations >>> >>> - >>> >>> - >>> >>> ARPU is an acronym for the
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MUM - whose going?
That explains everything? :-D You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Mac Dearman wrote: I forgot to mention that I will be giving a 30 minute presentation on the Katrina relief efforts that 5th at 1:30 - - - - - you better bring your pillow :-) Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. Authorized Barracuda Reseller MikroTik RouterOS Certified www.inetsouth.com www.mac-tel.us www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief) Rayville, La. 318.728.8600 318.303.4227 318.303.4229 - Original Message - From: JohnnyO To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MUM - whose going? oh jeez - there goes the neighborhood - Someone call ahead to the Texas Rangers to let them know ! JohnnyO On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 12:04 -0500, Carl A Jeptha wrote: If none of your other deserving Katrina assistants wants one I'll take one. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Mac Dearman wrote: > Mikrotik is holding their first ever U.S. MUM (MikroTik Users > Meeting) in Dallas, TX, May 4-5th, 2006. There will also be a > training class scheduled for the three days prior to MUM. > > I have a few free passes due to Katrina work - - any takers? > > > More info here: > http://mum.mikrotik.com/ > > > Mac Dearman > Maximum Access, LLC. > Authorized Barracuda Reseller > MikroTik RouterOS Certified > www.inetsouth.com > www.mac-tel.us > www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief) > Rayville, La. > 318.728.8600 > 318.303.4227 > 318.303.4229 > > > > > > - Original Message - From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:08 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services > --SomeObservations > > >> Quote: "> IT'S OBVIOUSLY MORE THAN "JUST" TECHNOLOGY... " >> >> yes, it is. More to the point, it's about meeting your customer's >> needs or >> wants. >> >> Not shoving things at them they don't need or want, but genuinely >> discovering what it is that sparks them to buy in the first place. >> >> I desperately need a GOOD VOIP wholesale deal, where I own the >> customer and >> do frontline support, it's my own brand (if I brand it) and I merely >> bulk >> buy minutes, numbers, and CPE.I can't sell my customers a 400 minute >> account that costs me 25 bucks a month. They can buy Packet8 for >> less than >> most resell deals. >> >> I'd rather just bundle a VOIP service in a higher level tier (let's move >> from 38 / mo to 55 or 60/mo ) of service, but needs to be affordable >> for me >> to do. Still, nobody's offering this kind of service, that I can find. >> Either it is sold as raw products (requiring me to build a whole VOIP >> system >> for my customers use) or as higher than retail priced "wholesale" >> programs. >> >> What I really need, then, is someone who does more of the backend stuff >> (including providing e911) but does so in mass quantity, and doesn't >> "touch" my customer. >> >> I've also found that pc service can be a good side venture, but I'm not >> convinced that we can actually compete on price with the computer >> store. If >> we're busy, it's better value for our time to install and support our >> own >> services. >> >> Just random thoughts on the topic... >> >> >> >> >> North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 >> personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net >> sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net >> Fast Internet, NO WIRES! >> >> >> - >> - Original Message - From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com> >> Cc: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:45 PM >> Subject: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services -- >> SomeObservations >> >> >>> Generally, we end up debating all day and all night on the lists of >> "what's >>> the best radio" or "who's go
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MUM - whose going?
ok, I'll think about it, but no slide shows. :-\
You have a Good Day now,
Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha
Brian Webster wrote:
It would be better if you could get him to do the
presentation with a beer in his hand after he worked all day in the hot
sun hanging radios in hurricane ravaged conditions. Then you'll get the
real skinny on what you should be doing:-) And I'll bet you hear
him say "and I'm gonna tell you somethin" at least once. Seriously his
discussion will be a good one on this, for those of us that went down
there it was a life altering experience. We all learned a lot and we
learned that there still is good in our fellow man.
Thank You,
Brian Webster
-Original Message-
From: Carl A Jeptha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MUM - whose going?
That explains
everything? :-D
You have a Good Day now,
Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha
Mac Dearman wrote:
I forgot to mention that I will be giving
a 30 minute presentation on the Katrina relief efforts that 5th at
1:30 - - - - - you better bring your pillow :-)
Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
Authorized Barracuda Reseller
MikroTik RouterOS Certified
www.inetsouth.com
www.mac-tel.us
www.RadioResponse.org
(Katrina Relief)
Rayville, La.
318.728.8600
318.303.4227
318.303.4229
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MUM - whose going?
oh jeez - there goes the neighborhood - Someone call ahead to the Texas
Rangers to let them know !
JohnnyO
On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 12:04 -0500, Carl A Jeptha wrote:
If none of your other deserving Katrina assistants wants one I'll take one.
You have a Good Day now,
Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha
Mac Dearman wrote:
> Mikrotik is holding their first ever U.S. MUM (MikroTik Users
> Meeting) in Dallas, TX, May 4-5th, 2006. There will also be a
> training class scheduled for the three days prior to MUM.
>
> I have a few free passes due to Katrina work - - any takers?
>
>
> More info here:
> http://mum.mikrotik.com/
>
>
> Mac Dearman
> Maximum Access, LLC.
> Authorized Barracuda Reseller
> MikroTik RouterOS Certified
> www.inetsouth.com
> www.mac-tel.us
> www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief)
> Rayville, La.
> 318.728.8600
> 318.303.4227
> 318.303.4229
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services
> --SomeObservations
>
>
>> Quote: "> IT'S OBVIOUSLY MORE THAN "JUST" TECHNOLOGY... "
>>
>> yes, it is. More to the point, it's about meeting your customer's
>> needs or
>> wants.
>>
>> Not shoving things at them they don't need or want, but genuinely
>> discovering what it is that sparks them to buy in the first place.
>>
>> I desperately need a GOOD VOIP wholesale deal, where I own the
>> customer and
>> do frontline support, it's my own brand (if I brand it) and I merely
>> bulk
>> buy minutes, numbers, and CPE.I can't sell my customers a 400 minute
>> account that costs me 25 bucks a month. They can buy Packet8 for
>> less than
>> most resell deals.
>>
>> I'd rather just bundle a VOIP service in a higher level tier (let's move
>> from 38 / mo to 55 or 60/mo ) of service, but needs to be affordable
>> for me
>> to do. Still, nobody's offering this kind of service, that I can find.
>> Either it is sold as raw products (requiring me to build a whole VOIP
>> system
>> for my customers use) or as higher than retail priced "wholesale"
>> programs.
>>
>> What I really need, then, is someone who does more of the backend stuff
>> (including providing e911) but does so in mass quantity, and doesn't
>> "touch" my customer.
>>
>> I've also found that pc
Re: [WISPA] I know you guys will appreciate this...
I'm reporting you to the labor board for inferring that a job like that actually exists :-) You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Bob Moldashel wrote: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1514168659738935009 :-) Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. Broadband Deployment Group 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, New York 11741 USA 800-479-9195 Toll Free US & Canada 631-585-5558 Fax 516-551-1131 Cell -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for Internet Access (Ontario, Canada)
Who is looking we are still trying to expand into that area. We are in Colborne now. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Cliff Leboeuf wrote: Can anyone provide high-speed Internet access to: Old Hwy#2, Trenton, Quinte West, Ontario K8V 5P5 If so, reply and I will forward your information. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.5/284 - Release Date: 17/03/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RE: Solectek Skyway 7000 -- Follow Up
Please post Pictures as I use tranzeos and have not lost any. Also found a strange quirk. If the dc power is "pulled down" low enough it resets the radio to factory defaults. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Jason Hensley wrote: And very rugged. I was curious after they came down so I broke open what was left of the enclosures and took the cards out. Plugged them in and they seemed to work perfectly. - Original Message - From: "G.Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:03 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] RE: Solectek Skyway 7000 -- Follow Up The only diff is that tranzeo are way less expensive so... it isn't that bad Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RE: Solectek Skyway 7000 -- Follow Up Yes, the Tranzeos are very similar on the inside. I can post / send pics if anyone is interested. Had a tower go down that demolished a TR-5a and a TR-6000. - Original Message - From: "G.Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 3:59 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] RE: Solectek Skyway 7000 -- Follow Up Looks like a dlink or netgear 5ghz ap... the tranzeos would be similar Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 12:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RE: Solectek Skyway 7000 -- Follow Up That's an Atheros chipset on the PCB but what type of PCB is it? The model # in the pics looks like 8WAPD15_5A1 but Google.com doesn't turn anything up on it. Looks like a homebrew solution IMO. -Shannon - Original Message - From: "Matt Glaves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 10:46 PM Subject: [WISPA] RE: Solectek Skyway 7000 -- Follow Up Hey Folks, Last month I posted to the list asking about low cost 5Ghz bridges and a few folks responded that I should check out Airaya. I decided to give them a try based on some really excellent discounts from one of our vendors. In short, I hate them :-) If you're interested in why, feel free to hit me off list.. We bought two complete links and before installing the first one I cracked it open and took a picture of its high tech innards to share with this list. I hope this helps those looking at sub $3k PTP bridges. http://www.pinn.net/~glaves/DSCN0714.JPG http://www.pinn.net/~glaves/DSCN0712.JPG thanks, matt _ From: Matt Glaves Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:50 PM To: 'wireless@wispa.org' Subject: Solectek Skyway 7000 I have never used the Solectek equipment and am looking at either trying their Skyway 7101 or the Trango Atlas for some short building to building links. I have seen enough favorable posts about the Atlas to know plenty of you are using it successfully - although I sure wish I could get one of their sales folks to return a phone call. Leave a message about buying 250 CPEs and no one calls back Anyway :-) I would like to get opinions on the Skyway 7000. This would be for very short <.5 mile links between buildings. We would normally use Terabeam/Proxim systems but are looking for alternatives with similar capabilities and 20-40% lower cost. Any info/opinions on reliability and real world throughput would be great. Thanks, Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] SR9 cards......
me too. Growth amongst the Ganaraska Forests here in the "Rolling Hills of Northumberland County" is starting to demand a "nlos" solution. And we like to use off the shelf industry standard equipment, no proprietary equipment is our motto - We paid $45,000 dollars for it and still have the proof. :-) Apparently Tranzeo is Beta Testing also. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Blair Davis wrote: Tony, I hope so. However, I am running out of time. Let me give you a little background. I have a 2.4GHz system running that covers most of my county. It is a mixture of 802.11 and TurboCell. The TurboCell provides back haul and service for long range clients, (>3 miles), or for NLoS clients at short range. I use the 802.11 for short range, LoS clients (<3 miles). This has worked well for us in the past, but, the increasing bandwidth demands are overloading our TurboCell back hauls, increasing noise levels are decreasing the usable range of our 802.11 AP's, (in one area we no longer deploy 802.11 CPE's at all, just TurboCell). I am now deploying a 5.8GHz Netstream system to replace my TurboCell back hauls. I am also looking into polled systems on 2.4GHz to replace my TurboCell CPE's and AP's. Netstream is my most likely choice here as well, but I am open to other polled systems on 2.4GHz as well. I have one PtP link using TurboCell with RF Linx 915UDC units to get thru a severe NLoS for a single user. This was a very expensive deployment and the average customer would not pay for it. I tested several 900MHz systems and found them wanting before settling on the RF Linx UDC's.. I now have several subdivisions, heavily tree infested, that want service. They will not accept large towers and antennas on each home, but they will accept a single large tower to serve the entire subdivision, so a 900MHz or less system for local distribution is the only reasonable option I can come up with. None of the existing 900MHz systems I have looked at will both provide 360deg coverage and adequate tree penetration using a single AP, and I can not justify 6 60deg AP's for a subdivision that might have 20 sign-ups total. Netstream using SR9 cards seems tailor made for this. Based on the expected ship dates for the SR9, I was expecting to begin testing the SR9/Netstream system in the next week or so and begin deployment by the end of this month. Now, it looks like I won't even be able to start testing until the end of May. Even getting a pair of the cards to begin testing with would ease my pain and that of the eagerly waiting customers I am really getting up against the wall here. My time is running out and I must find my answer soon. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blair We have received samples and the cards are working well, UB wanted to make sure these radios are 100% before releasing 900Mhz is much more difficult then 2.4 or even 5Ghz. It will be worth the wait. Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-667-7583 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com This communication constitutes an electronic communication within the meaning of the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 USC 2510, and its disclosure is strictly limited to the recipient intended by the sender of this message. This communication may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient and receipt by anyone other than the intended recipient does not constitute a loss of the confidential or privileged nature of the communication. Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender by return electronic mail and delete all copies of this communication -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 4:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] SR9 cards.. It seems that the delivery date on the SR9 cards from Ubiquiti Networks is now the 2nd week of May It was first of the year, then March, then April, now May Can you say 'vaporware'? -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Re: CPE Cost Ideas Needed
Also Gentlemen and Ladies, Remember why these good folks live in the backwoods of Louisiana, etc. :-) They like the peace and quiet and are willing to pay a local person to supply service to them. They also know that they have to pay a little extra to have the services of the big cities delivered to them. I charge $395.00CAN setup (using Tranzeo CPQ's now) and $55.00, $75.00 and $95.00 per month. I own the equipment. And yes I have noticed in my 5th year it has really picked up. Struggling to keep up, but happy. If you tell me about the big guy's cheapest price, I am the first one to suggest that you go with them as they definitely fit your criteria, thank you for the call, bye. My customers like the fact that they can call up the fool and shoot the fat with him and he actually remembers some stupid tidbit of their personal life. He is actually for real and is the first one to say he has screwed up. Good old fashion values. Yes some people have met the other side of me, I send them packing no regrets. Never ever bring your big city attitude to me, I will call the courier to send it packing and I do have competition. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Tom DeReggi wrote: Johny made a great point. In wireless you are going to need the margin to cover truck rolls, and support, equipment failure, and all that stuff. What you will find is that wirelesss has less customer awareness and is harder to sell, and you are going to need mnore margin to pay you back for that effort. Selling at a lower price just labels you as a commodity provider, and takes away the benefit that most that would chose wireless would want. A choice of a local provider that offers better support. An item with a price tag of $20 is worth $20 in the consumers mind. A product with a price tag of $45 is worth $45 in the consumers mind. Not all will afford the $45 product, but you want the ones that can. They are also probably the ones not always looking for something for free, and willing to pay for add-on field service work, etc. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 8:34 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Re: CPE Cost Ideas Needed I'm shooting at offering 1.5 Mbps service at around $24.95 and offering VOIP for another $24.95 if they so choose. So the competition hasn't a chance against me if I can get around that $350 CPE cost. IMNSHO - If you are trying to "compete" you will fall on your face in a heartbeat. We charge more then the competition and we do so for a reason. Our installs start at $250 for a 'basic' install. Our monthly rates are atleast $10-$15/more then the DSL or Cable offerings in our area. We avoid the bottom feeders this way. We could double or triple our subscriber count within 12mos if we would drop down $15/mo for our service but I refuse to do that. "Volume" of low end subscribers becomes a very costly support decision. I refuse to compete on pricing - we are local - we hire local people - we donate and support the local sports teams / associations. We shake our subscribers hands in the stores / at gas pumps / baseball games. We pump $$ into the local business's for our supplies, materials. $24.95/mo - If I were you - I would SERIOUSLY rethink your business model. Oh - we also don't have contracts - We do have a TOS, but have found there is really no reason to get subscribers to committ. If we do our job - they will stay - if we fail to support them as we've promised - they will bail. Kinda helps keep us on our toes :) JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Davis Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 6:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: CPE Cost Ideas Needed Joshua M. Andrews wrote: Cliff: Thank you for the information. The areas of DSL are very spotty and cable is very inexpensive and unreliable. Many people are upset at both situations. DSL is offered for about $30 per month with purchase of a DSL "modem" at around $50 or so and a 1 year contract is required. Cable service rents you the modem for $10 per month and charges $40 per month for service on top of that ($50 per month total for those of you out there in other posts that think half-duplex is as good a full-duplex). I'm shooting at offering 1.5 Mbps service at around $24.95 and offering VOIP for another $24.95 if they so choose. So the competition hasn't a chance against me if I can get around that $350 CPE cost. -- Pete: Thank you for the detailed response. I appreciate you taking the time to comment. I don't want to be rude but I took a look a
[WISPA] request for comment w.r.t Canadian 700mhz
http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/internet/insmt-gst.nsf/en/sf08457e.html# As this requires a smart and intelligent response, and as I've always been accused of being rude and obnoxious ( maybe I should write technical manuals) I would like a template of some sorts for all Canadian wisps to use. I am prepared to head this up as a spokesperson as a WISPA member (by the way they have heard of WISPA). I have made contact am prepared to be our liaison. Yes I do have ulterior motives. :-) -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP
Here's the reply for all answers. Look at the name of the association. WISPA. We are not carriers, we Do Not get listed on the stock-exchange, we do not have money to burn. This is the reason for our existence. We deliver the goods where these fools fear to tread. A Microcell with 10 customers is profitable. Follow the 10% rule - 100 people in the community of your AP. People this is Rural Countryside, where even your Cellphone don't work here most times, but we do (I have a Skypeout account to make calls). Don't forget your 911 VOIP database. When you call 911 here, you hope the fire truck driver lives down the road from you. He knows it is the brick house on the north east corner. My total area of service does not have a population of 1 million. Explain the $1,000,000.00 you want me to spend. Tranzeo and Company got the message - here's a CPE for $5.00 - I'll take it, can I have twenty (don't know where they are going, but the price is right (bang,bang,bang, God my head is going to hurt tomorrow - this brickwall is not giving)) I have Wave rider in the garbage, I have Cirronet in the Garbage, I have Linksys in the Garbage, I have Engenius in the Garbage. How long have I been in business as a WISP - since 1999. Now I can guarantee you that if I had Alvarion/carrier grade vendor some of its models would be in the garbage. (you know what carrier grades means - VAR Value added reseller - charge more for the future services you are going to deliver, if needed). Now Today I climb a tower and replaced a CB3 (that wisps swear by) with a lowly Hawking HWBA11 (I don't even think Hawkings make them anymore (damn Everyready Bunny stole the idea - just keep on going). All of my CB3's are showing their age. My Tranzeo CPQ's, 6000's and 5.8's are doing fine (Including the one that flew off the vehicle at a high rate of speed (95kph - thats' what the speedo said) )Forgot it on the roof - so I'm over 50 - sue me. Vendor if your equipment don't follow a standard I won't buy it If your equipment does not offer a ROI in three months max, no way If your equipment cost more than $300.00 installed no customer wants it Notice I am still waiting for 900mhz equipment Oh by the way this is my business, my clients, my area and I learnt the hard way what is good for my business. (by the time we had learnt how to use our Cirronet, we had to remove it, the industry had moved on. So I am thankful for the live I got out of our CB3's and Hawkings. But they are paid for and we made a "profit". Now we are replacing the radio's with Tranzeo 6000's and CPQ CPE's, unless we get a NLOS solution with bandwidth. End of Ramble, Sorry I took so long, :-) You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Steve Stroh wrote: John: Here's my working definition of "carrier grade": Designed for use by carriers Suitable for use by carriers Sufficiently reliable for use by carriers There is MUCH that goes into a product designed for use by carriers. It's expensive and a tough market, so a lot of vendors don't try. Here are just a few features that are "carrier grade requirements" from my perspective: * Designed for use in all conceivable weather elements * Designed for long operational use with minimal attention (in the WISP market, one measure is that it doesn't reboot itself, or require regular reboots) * Designed for easy and fast repair * The vendor stocks ample replacement units deployed geographically for fast supply. * Support expertise by the vendor is readily available (excellent, easy-to-access tech support). Note that such support is almost never free, and carriers don't expect it to be. When they need help, they need it NOW and need to get their systems back online fast. (Carriers often have mandated time-to-repair maximums by regulatory agencies.) * Subtle features like strain relief on all connectors, meeting the telecom industry requirements for rack mounting, built-in protection for power line surges and lightning. * Superb monitoring and remote control capabilities * Offer continuous VERY-in-depth training programs at the factory so that carriers can get their personnel FULLY up to speed on a product. Again, this almost never free, and carriers don't expect it to be. * Offer continuous product improvement, bug fixes, recalls when appropriate, and does so proactively when an issue is identified, and does so in a way to minimize downtime such as offering proactive replacement units. Etc. Regarding "Alvarion versus WISPs"... it's pretty simple. By offering "more like carrier-grade" products, Alvarion saw FAR more market demand by carriers, public safety, enterprise than they saw in the WISP market. The
Re: [WISPA] do you use tranzeo?
I do 2.4 and 5gig You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Jeffrey Thomas wrote: I am trying to find out how many folks out there use low cost CPE like tranzeo. please hit me off list if you do. Best, Jeff --WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.3/316 - Release Date: 17/04/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google Map... How to Add Your Wireless Internet AP
And If I have 500 microcells I can add them all (wish I had 500) You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote: Gentlemen, Adding a point is a bit confusing if you've not used an interface like this before... The trick is to... 1. ZOOM INTO YOUR LOCATION of choice when you are zoomed and CENTERED on the location of your AP... 2. Select WISP in the TOP ROW... and add your url... On 4/19/06, Chuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I second that problem……tried every way….every link…and dada….how to get it on there escapes me Chuck Moses HIGH DESERT WIRELESS BROADBAND COMMUNICATION 16922 Airport Blvd # 3 Mojave CA 93501 661 824 3431 office 818 406 6818 cell From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 10:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] STATS: Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE! Subject: Re: [WISPA] STATS: Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE! Man I'm not that mentally challenged but I haven't been able to figure out how to put my WISP on this map! Help, please? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Scott Reed To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] STATS: Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE! How do I change. I put my WISP Wi-Max, oops, and need to make it WISP. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "WISPA General List" , "Dan Gilkerson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:36:38 -0700 Subject: [WISPA] STATS: Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE! PS... Unique Visitor Count FYI Feb 2,240 Mar 6,143 Apr 2,090so far GOOGLEMAP: http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-access-wimax-evdo-hsdpa-map-set.html -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisor http://wireless-internet-coverage.blogspot.com http://evdo-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- End of Original Message --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisor http://wireless-internet-coverage.blogspot.com http://evdo-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual Channel Bonded Wireless Internet System - Closer?
Two nice options depending on how much you want to do 1. Xincom Dual WAN Router - will load balance, fail save, no firewall. 2. Mikrotik - will do everything the Xincom can do and then some, including firewalling. But you have to learn how to work with it. Every week i find something different to do with it You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote: Anybody know how to bond 2 wireless internet channels ... ie.. verizon + cingular hsdpa? we're working on getting 240kbps... instead of 120kbps per card / network for a govt client. - bob -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisor http://wireless-internet-coverage.blogspot.com http://evdo-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes
What is really funny is that they used Hewlett Packard. Why not Cisco, Alvarion, Tranzeo. These are some of the people who are suppose to know what they are doing. BTW I am a certified HP Computer and printer tech. but still I think they know what they are doing. KICKBACK You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: roflol The city is selling "signal boosters" (I read that as amps) to anyone that wants them for $170? Oh man, this deployment is gonna come CRASHING down. Hard. It's really too bad these people are too ignorant, stubborn or just plain stupid to call any of us in to help. sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 7:07 AM Subject: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060424/ap_on_hi_te/muni_wi_fi_hiccups I am not a fan of muni wireless. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes
Well to one-up you, Our local Utility has been offered Wimax Radios to be used in a Mesh Network on a licensed Freq, so that they can read meters. What really gets me is that these people with a few carefully chosen words appear to know more than all of us put together. The gift of the GAB. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Brad Larson wrote: I'm biting my tongue on this topicI have been on enough of these projects, well over 50 in the last 12 months alone, and I have to say there are a pile of people that don't know what they're getting into and many will get hurt. For instance, I have a unnamed mesh vendor quoting 14 nodes per square mile for 100% coverage in a decent sized community in MA. They'll need at least 40ish... And please keep in mind that different parts of the Country where tree lines/foliage, noise floors, and topology are different create their own separate challenges. Throw in voice as some of the "wireless network experts" have advised and a whole new overlay of problems surface. There is a place for mesh just like other tools in your kit but covering whole counties or even trying to cover a whole City is quite a stretch IMHO. How did we get to this point of mesh first being considered a "convenience or hotspot extension" to what it has become today where it is seen as the 4th solution to the last mile or a cost effective roaming solution for public safety or city workers? I have seen designs in the NE US where 40 to 69 2.4 Ghz nodes per square mile are needed when a simple implement of 900 Mhz mobility with two base stations (redundant) per square mile can do the trick and save 90% of the cost of a mesh network. Use mesh in the parks, at the pool, in the restaurant district, or anywhere else people may want public access. And I'll add that opening up my notebook on a sunny day outside is pretty much a waste of battery power. I'm afraid Tempe AZ and St Cloud are just the start of some of the bad press we're going to see related to our wireless industry. But then again, I'm a show me guy so if one of these major networks actually works, has an ROI and doesn't become a boondoggle for tax payers, and serves the public well then I'll be impressed. Brad -Original Message- From: John J. Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes -Original Message- From: George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 09:02 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes John J. Thomas wrote: inline... First off, the WISPs have to have the guts to talk to the city. Many simply refuse to do so, and are probably going to get the Muni WiFi shoved down their throats. I don't want to turn this into a battle of ideals. George, you are welcome to believe anything that you want. Here are some facts; 1. I work for Clare Computer Solutions and we are a Cisco Mesh certified network Integrator. 2. Cities have approached US to install their networks 3. These cities are not San Francisco sized, they are probably populations 100,000 and smaller. 4. They are spending the money to put in infrastructure for City workers, first. Many are looking at providing Internet access second. But how many local wisps have been chosen to date? I bet Joe laura in NO got passed over without much consideration to him. Joe is on this list, let him chime in here. Second, the cities are mostly going to use 2.4 GHz for access and 5.7-5.8 GHz for backhauls. WISP's will need to use 5.25-5.25 GHz and 900 MHz. Almost every wisp today is using 2.4 to reach the customer and 5 gig for infrastructure and high end customers. Are you saying that wisps have to move off the existing spectrum and replace their equipment? I am not saying that WISPS have to move off of 2.4. I am saying that if WISPs want to provide top quality service, then they may need to move off of 2.4 as it is getting crowded in lots of areas. In a word, service. The city will only be offering WiFi access-period. They won't be going out to peoples houses and doing installs, fixing virii, doing firewalls, etc. Here is a scenario, if a potential customer who is on the fence while deciding to go to broadband was to hear that a new muni free wifi system is going to come on line or he can buy now with his local wisp, which choice is the average consumer going to make? Most are going to try the muni first. Some are going to be unsatisfied and will look for a better deal. I'll give you an
Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes
In the meantime we will send our Product Management VP to explain to you in detail how it works. Also include in your reply the name of the fanciest restaurant in your town. This is where the VP will be having the meetings (We don't want you to be disturb by your day to day emergencies) You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Rudolph Worrell wrote: Please send your money as we are backordered for development. Will send product as soon as we can fill the order. LOL. Quoting Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I'll take 200. Rudolph Worrell wrote: I am reading all of these posts and I see one thing here. Marketing! There is little sense to this but a great deal of marketing being done for Mesh, 4.9, and Muni WiFi. I see out of town guys chime in all the time and express how well they can deploy and integrate networks. I am very curious about the actual implementations they have done that involved a large mountain ranges with customers spaced every 5 miles who are behind trees, or has some obstruction to any towers. Better yet a neighborhood with devices on the same frequencies that you cannot control. My guess is that their lab and specs of their devices looks great but the actual deployment is a different story. We all know that 2.4Ghz, 900Mhz, and 5.8Ghz, all have their limitations, and will perform perhaps 10% to 20% worst than advertised. Do these guys know that? As for the marketing bit, I have a 2.4Ghz wireless device that can communicate at 100 mph, at distances of 100mi from the tower using 60foot dishes, giving a throughput of 200Mbps. It sells for $50,000.00 per Clieint bridge and $600,000.00 per AP. Who wants to buy? Quoting Carl A Jeptha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Well to one-up you, Our local Utility has been offered Wimax Radios to be used in a Mesh Network on a licensed Freq, so that they can read meters. What really gets me is that these people with a few carefully chosen words appear to know more than all of us put together. The gift of the GAB. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Brad Larson wrote: I'm biting my tongue on this topicI have been on enough of these projects, well over 50 in the last 12 months alone, and I have to say there are a pile of people that don't know what they're getting into and many will get hurt. For instance, I have a unnamed mesh vendor quoting 14 nodes per square mile for 100% coverage in a decent sized community in MA. They'll need at least 40ish... And please keep in mind that different parts of the Country where tree lines/foliage, noise floors, and topology are different create their own separate challenges. Throw in voice as some of the "wireless network experts" have advised and a whole new overlay of problems surface. There is a place for mesh just like other tools in your kit but covering whole counties or even trying to cover a whole City is quite a stretch IMHO. How did we get to this point of mesh first being considered a "convenience or hotspot extension" to what it has become today where it is seen as the 4th solution to the last mile or a cost effective roaming solution for public safety or city workers? I have seen designs in the NE US where 40 to 69 2.4 Ghz nodes per square mile are needed when a simple implement of 900 Mhz mobility with two base stations (redundant) per square mile can do the trick and save 90% of the cost of a mesh network. Use mesh in the parks, at the pool, in the restaurant district, or anywhere else people may want public access. And I'll add that opening up my notebook on a sunny day outside is pretty much a waste of battery power. I'm afraid Tem
[WISPA] Canadian Spectrum Management Proposals
Here's a link to comments on the freq 220-222. http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/internet/insmt-gst.nsf/en/sf08535e.html#policyproposals -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wimax Hardware for sale?
So who is selling 3.5 wimax equipment? You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha George Rogato wrote: I'm doing 5MHz as well as 10MHz with Star-OS and Atheros. I just ran a throughput test on a 10MHz 5 gig link and the test came back 2000+/- KB George Charles Wu wrote: You can do a 5 MHz channel size on an Atheros chip (Off the top of my head, Alvarion & Airaya have implemented it so far) -Charles --- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 10:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax Hardware for sale? Patrick Leary wrote: But which WiMAX are you talking about? There are lots of versions and the one version that no one has...and no one should be clamoring for just yet...is unlicensed WiMAX. I am certainly looking for WiMAX features such as spectral efficiency in 5 Ghz unlicensed gear right now. I don't really care about the standard. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wimax Hardware for sale?
Thank you, Send me offlist Ballpark pricing. I will understand that further pricing negotiation will be be required You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Patrick Leary wrote: Carl, Lots of vendors sell 3.5GHz WiMAX, some with, some without the certification yet. We've been selling it for 2 years commercially (long enough to have some operators with several 10's of thousands of deployed CPE). Many others have recently released their own versions. - Patrick -Original Message----- From: Carl A Jeptha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 6:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax Hardware for sale? So who is selling 3.5 wimax equipment? You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha George Rogato wrote: I'm doing 5MHz as well as 10MHz with Star-OS and Atheros. I just ran a throughput test on a 10MHz 5 gig link and the test came back 2000+/- KB George Charles Wu wrote: You can do a 5 MHz channel size on an Atheros chip (Off the top of my head, Alvarion & Airaya have implemented it so far) -Charles --- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 10:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax Hardware for sale? Patrick Leary wrote: But which WiMAX are you talking about? There are lots of versions and the one version that no one has...and no one should be clamoring for just yet...is unlicensed WiMAX. I am certainly looking for WiMAX features such as spectral efficiency in 5 Ghz unlicensed gear right now. I don't really care about the standard. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] gas prices
Hey, leave my Taurus wagon alone. I would like to go back to an AWD Astro/Safari, but the cost of gas is the problem, but the height, the space and the AWD makes all the difference. the difference in mileage between the two is double. $25.00CDN and $45.00CDN for the same distance. Can't argue with the wife (Accounting Dept.) with those figures. :-D You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I thought of that too. But if I get an extra 5, even 10 mpg it still won't make up for the payment on the rig. I love these uses Taurus wagons. I've had two of them go 230,000 miles now with nothing major. Oh yeah, one got an engine at 220,000 or so but that was my fault for running it low on oil. Pick them up used with 75,000 to 100,000 all day long. Usually for less than $8k too. Cheap insurance, decent mileage, easy to get the ladder on etc. My only problem now is that I have too many towers up in the sticks and can't get to them without whacking the bottom of the car all of the time on the rocks. (I DO know that changing an oil pan in one runs $500!) I'm gonna have to find an suv for my next rig. Probably a Cherokee or Durango. Not sure yet. I want a QUIET rig this time. That's the worst thing about the Taurus around here. The roads are rough and the car is awful. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:22 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices I don't believe the gas prices will come back down to below 2.00 any time soon. So we're shopping for new high gas mileage vehicles. George Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, Just got our $700 gas bill for last month. That's just MY driving. No employees. And I don't even drive an suv! I'm thinking of a $20 per install fuel surcharge. Kinda like what the concrete company did to me last year at this time. What are people that have large spread out networks doing? If we slow down on the installs it'll not be a big deal. But if it kicks into overdrive again in a month or so (pretty normal for us) this summer is gonna be ugly. thoughts? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] gas prices
yes just past a subura today and saw it was higher but the taurus holds more. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I've looked at them. Two problems. Lack of space for tool boxes, antennas etc. They are too short to really hold a long extension ladder. The other issue is the dang resale value. I could buy two Jeeps for the cost of anything Subaru! hehehehehe I'll check 'em out some more. I did look at them pretty seriously a few years back. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:53 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices Subaru Outback Wagons - You can NOT beat them for rough country / good gas mileage / carrying capacity. They are AWD and 600k miles isn't unheard of. The clearance under them is unbelievable. They have High Output V4s or V6s - They are comfortable / quiet / economic /powerful and will go anywhere that Cherokee you're talking about will go Marlon :) JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl A Jeptha Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 6:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices Hey, leave my Taurus wagon alone. I would like to go back to an AWD Astro/Safari, but the cost of gas is the problem, but the height, the space and the AWD makes all the difference. the difference in mileage between the two is double. $25.00CDN and $45.00CDN for the same distance. Can't argue with the wife (Accounting Dept.) with those figures. :-D You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I thought of that too. But if I get an extra 5, even 10 mpg it still won't make up for the payment on the rig. I love these uses Taurus wagons. I've had two of them go 230,000 miles now with nothing major. Oh yeah, one got an engine at 220,000 or so but that was my fault for running it low on oil. Pick them up used with 75,000 to 100,000 all day long. Usually for less than $8k too. Cheap insurance, decent mileage, easy to get the ladder on etc. My only problem now is that I have too many towers up in the sticks and can't get to them without whacking the bottom of the car all of the time on the rocks. (I DO know that changing an oil pan in one runs $500!) I'm gonna have to find an suv for my next rig. Probably a Cherokee or Durango. Not sure yet. I want a QUIET rig this time. That's the worst thing about the Taurus around here. The roads are rough and the car is awful. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:22 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices I don't believe the gas prices will come back down to below 2.00 any time soon. So we're shopping for new high gas mileage vehicles. George Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, Just got our $700 gas bill for last month. That's just MY driving. No employees. And I don't even drive an suv! I'm thinking of a $20 per install fuel surcharge. Kinda like what the concrete company did to me last year at this time. What are people that have large spread out networks doing? If we slow down on the installs it'll not be a big deal. But if it kicks into overdrive again in a month or so (pretty normal for us) this summer is gonna be ugly. thoughts? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/piper
Re: [WISPA] soho router to replace wrt54g?
Why are you shouting, hearing aid battery starting to die on you, old man? :-P You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Mac Dearman wrote: I THINK WE ALL OUGHT TO POST HALF OUR MESSAGE ON THE TOP AND (see below) Brad Belton wrote: I typically just delete a post before scrolling all the way to the bottom. Inevitably the bottom poster is just one of those "me too" or "thanks" replies. It is rarely worth the effort and not worth the wear & tear on the 'ol mouse wheel to read bottom posts! lol Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:19 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] soho router to replace wrt54g? Because it disrupts the natural flow of conversation. Why is top-posting bad? David Smith MVN.net HALF OF IT ON THE BOTTOM - THEREBY SANDWICHING THE MIDDLE POSTER LIKE AN OREO. IT ALSO SATISYS EITHER EVERYONE OR NO-ONE AT ALL. BY THE WAY - - HOW DO Y'ALL FEEL ABOUT ALL CAPS ON LIST? :-) (TCMA) hehehehehehe -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Poll
You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha George Rogato wrote: I'd like to take a poll on behalf of the board of directors. As most of you know, wispa formed a promotion and marketing committee for the benefit of wispa and it's member wisps. We have had a few people step up and volunteer their time to help get this going. I'm sure the work the promo committee is doing will be highly successful and will benefit each and everyone of our wisps. Now what we, the board of directors, want to know is how may of you would be interested in "Work Groups"? The first work group would be a "Muni Wireless" Work Group Would you be interested in joining and participating in a Muni Wireless work group? This work group would be to discuss: 1- The pro's and con's of dealing with a municipality. 2- How to go about approaching a municipality for a muni project. 3- How to bid and secure a muni project in your own market. The work group is to help wisps who have never been involved help themselves. I'd like each and everyone to write back and tell us if you think a muni work group would be a benefit to you. Pleas answer Yes( X) or No( ) Thanks -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this?
last time I thought Wispa was international and if it is not I may as well cancel my membership. It does appear that USA Politics and legislation has been on the forefront alot. Just asking?? You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha David Sovereen wrote: I've only been on the list for about four weeks. I learned about it at the Mikrotik User Meeting in Dallas from a few of the other attendees. Since I've been on, there hasn't been any discussion of what WISPA is doing on the legislative front. If all of the good stuff is hiding in the members only area, and you don't tell people about the good stuff hiding in there on your public web site, how are enticing people to join? If you want people's money, you need to market to them. I finally made it through the USIIA Bulletin. According to them, the data retention bill isn't likely to be passed. Quote, "The reality is that such legislation would never pass the Congress, and that the DOJ will likely back down from the issue in the face of public criticism and concerns." If that weren't the case, I'd probably get a USIIA Alert asking me to e-mail my congresspeople. I feel this type of information is valuable. Dave 989-837-3790 x 151 989-837-3780 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mercury.net 129 Ashman St, Midland, MI 48640 - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this? You just need to pay attention here and on the private list. It would be nice if someone had the time to work on the web site more. So that everyone would know what we're going right now! But those of us working are too busy doing and have no time for bragging about it. grin Watch and learn Dave. One thing I'm very proud of is that WISPA has never hid anything that it does. We are the most open group I've ever been around. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "David Sovereen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this? Where can I find out what WISPA's official positions are? Where can I see the letters and actions WISPA has sent on behalf of its members? The root of my questions is, "How do I know that the money I spend is making a difference?" I've joined organizations before. I send them my check or give them a credit card number and never hear from them again... until they want more money. I don't support my local Chamber of Commerce for this exact reason. What does my local Chamber of Commerce do to deserve my money? After a year, I didn't know, so I cancelled my membership. Dave 989-837-3790 x 151 989-837-3780 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mercury.net 129 Ashman St, Midland, MI 48640 - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this? I'm really at a bit of a loss as to how to deal with your question David. What's a trade association do for you? (You being generic here) The idea that the question was asked indicates to me that one doesn't understand what a trade group is for. It's not, at least not at first, there to put money in your pocket. Nor is it there to help you control your costs. Oh sure, most of those things can and will happen at some point. But it takes time, people and money to make any of that happen. At this stage WISPA is there to protect our industry If you don't support WISPA we'll not be able to have any voice at all at the FCC or in congress. Especially the FCC. You see, we talked to folks at the FCC before we set WISPA up. They made it
Re: [WISPA] Good news on the wimax unlicensed front
Do it again Johnny O, I love it :-P You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha JohnnyO wrote: Jeffrey Thomas - DOH ! - For some reason I had Jeff Booher on the brain and made mistake of making this post ! ! ! ! Please - pretty please forgive me for mixing you up ? /me holds head down and kicks rocks JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 11:32 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Good news on the wimax unlicensed front Jeff - how many other platforms have you tooted the horn on that have never produced the results you claimed ? Not trying to rain on your parade here, but every platform you've tooted ranting raves about, has never lived up to it's hype from what I have seen. JohnnyO Wanting to be a believer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Thomas Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 11:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good news on the wimax unlicensed front Simple. Since the CPE self provisions and aligns itself, the customer only need to know they need to install the device on their rooftop. And they also have indoor devices that work to maybe a KM or so from the tower but those Are as simple as a customer plugs in the ethernet plug and power and puts The CPE near a window. I honestly doubt anyone will use them, but they Are available. So really zero truck roll? Not really as most customers will want the wisp to install it- but the major benefit is that the CPE's will not require techs to carry a pc or anything other than cabling and tools to set up the roof mount. - Jeff On 6/8/06 8:04 PM, "Sam Tetherow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Color me jaded, but how can you get a zero truck roll CPE in 5.4-5.9 unlicensed? Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless jeffrey thomas wrote: Guys, Just got out of training for the new AIRSPAN wimax product for 5.8. Unlike most other vendors, they are going to market with their 802.16-2004 5.4-5.9 solution and are shipping in JULY, and expect FCC certification for their 802.16-2004 product for 4.9 Ghz as well in July! I am very excited about this as the 3 plus years of waiting for a viable, wimax product in a band that everyone can deploy in will be available. So, while the equipment has not been ratified by the Wimax forum as of yet, ( and they havent even decided when they will be certifying vendors ) this product will be either complaint as is or will require a minor software upgrade for Wimax forum certified compatiability, assuming that the forum go with the 802.16-2004 spec as planned. some notes on the product: initial pricing expected to be very reasonably priced on the AP side of things, 600.00 / cpe 35 mb / sector real world throughput @ 64 QAM full service flow integration for QOS can be used in either 5 mhz channel size or 10 mhz channel zero truck roll CPE ( users can easily install the equipment ) full blown FCAPS compliant NMS ( Fault monitoring configuration authentication provisioning security ) color me excited :) - Jeff -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] looking for a device
that sounds nice, now what price are we looking at and how small and what temp range?? I would be ver happy if I could reach all of my microcells remotely and contain each one from affecting any of the others with it's problems. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Rick Harnish wrote: Virtual LAN. Imagine segregating segments of your network across a backhaul pipe so that they flow together but don't actually see each other. Managed switches have the ability to create VLANs per port. Think of it as a merger between routing and switching. Its a pipe or several inside a pipe. Tried to be simple here, I'm sure someone else can give you a more technical description. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for a device Can you or someone explain what double VLAN is? I have never heard of such a thing. How can it be used to help us? Thanks, Scriv Yo may want to look at Alvarion. Alvarion does support VLAN. new Firmware4 supports double VLAN also. Alvarion used to have one model that was designed to have a second integrated radio into it. I can't remember if it was a 900/2.4 combo, or a 5.8/2.4 combo. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Re: 1st draft Spectrum Sharing Test-bed 06-89.doc
When you submit it send a copy to me for filing for the day I have to go and do battle up here. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Of for God's sake! Only one response and that's not even from a WISPA member Can I at least get a "looks good to me" response if you guys aren't going to take the time to give me some feedback on what to say on this issue? Ken, my comments below. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Ken DiPietro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 9:42 AM Subject: Re: 1st draft Spectrum Sharing Test-bed 06-89.doc Marlon, Comments in-line, just where you'd expect to find them. Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: 1 a: We believe that there should be multiple tests run at the same time but in different areas. Possibly on a rotating basis so that each test can be run via different technologies in different environments. We believe that any new technologies should be open to testing on a non interference basis. I would leave this alone - let the FCC decide how this aspect of the test should be run. I can see value (for example) of two competing tests being run in the same area to show how the interference issue can be measured and possibly ignored due to lack of any tangible problem. Part of the problem with this whole idea will be the incombants not wanting to share. We also want to see valid data on what happens to the incombant. This means that we need to limit the possibilities of harmful interference. At least that's my take on it. 1 b: We believe that the biggest challenge is going to be creating a technological and regulatory environment that’s auto correcting. We want to see spectrum fully utilized. However, changing technology would require constantly changing rule sets if it were to be too granular. Too loose and the rules will get abused. We’d like to see a balance that sets the rules in such a way that people can build/use devices that use any open spectrum that they can find. Inefficient radios that don’t keep up with technological advances should be encouraged to leave the market at some point though. Possibly by setting a certification sunset. Certainly all existing devices would be grandfathered, new ones would have to be recertified after x years (3 to 5???) though. I find this to be a dangerous precedent. If full use of spectrum is the goal, it seems that the License Exempt "experiment" has done a pretty good job of pushing the limits of that goal. Yeah, we've done well so far. From my perspective, I would like to see a "loosening" of the rules in specific bands that are easily accessible using off the shelf WiFi equipment. In addition, I want to see the 6GHz band have the six foot antenna rule stricken from the regulation and a reasonable EIRP mandated (like 4 watts plus unlimited antenna gain?) so that we can start to use a "clean" band to deliver communications services in any area that interference would not be a problem is. As a specific example, I would guess (no, I haven't confirmed it) that there is zero usage of the 6GHz band in my area or if there is it is localized for long distance PtP links and anything I would deploy here "on the ground" would not affect these PtP links with their very high gain antennas. Those are all good points but not the point of this nprm as I read it. 2: We think that multiple tests should be allowed to run simultaneously in many markets around the country. Absolutely. 3: Tests should span from fallow to highly used spectrum. We believe that one of the criteria should be equipment availability. There are radios already on the market that will operate in the 2.5 GHz band. This should make modifications to the operating software much easier and less expensive for at least one phase of the tests. We think that all spectrum should be looked at honestly. Important but not mission critical cases should be looked at. ie: Radio navigation should be off limits, but the local plumber’s VHF channels should not. *IF* the plumber detects unusual interference on his band he should be able to contact the testing party and first verify the interference and secondly make them stop causing it. The typical Atheros powered WiFi r
Re: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In Washington
As the ad says "Mac you are one sick puppy" O:-) You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Mac Dearman wrote: This very thing is why I implemented a 5Gig rule up/down aggregate for the month written in my TOS with a $10.00 per Gig over the limit charge. There is no way possible to keep someone from sharing (although that too is prohibited by my TOS) their connection today with NAT and if you catch them what are you going to do? Prosecute them? Kick a monthly paying sub off your network? I found that just writing that little “gotcha” in my TOS works best for us. Bring on the $5.00 routers!! I sale bandwidth for a living and the more I sell the more I make. I am the last one in the world who thinks we ought to limit the amount of up/download data transfer!! Anyone know where I can in line to buy about a thousand of those $5.00 routers? I’ll bet I can resell them for $80.00 Mac From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 10:18 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In Washington Yeah, I saw that...everyone should take a good look at their Terms of Service... Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 11:09 AM To: wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In Washington For those that still think the all you can eat option is a good one :-) Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services 42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - This guy needs to get a job from FON… http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200989,00.html Wi-Fi Company to Sell Routers for Five Dollars Monday, June 26, 2006 STORIES • Reports of Death of Dial-Up Internet Greatly Exaggerated LONDON — FON, a Spanish start-up on an ambitious crusade to turn home Wi-Fi connections into wireless "hotspots" for nearby users, is set to unveil on Monday a plan to hand out 1 million wireless routers for just $5 apiece. FON, which aims to create a network of home users and small businesses to resell wireless access to passersby, said on Sunday it will subsidize $60 Cisco (CSCO) Linksys or Buffalo routers for $5 in the United States or 5 euros in Europe. Routers are small boxes users connect to cable or telephone Internet connections to broadcast wireless signals to nearby devices, inside a home, business or surrounding neighborhood. Juergen Urbanski, North American general manager, said FON, which in February raised $21.7 million from backers, including the founders of Google (GOOG) and Skype, is looking to turn the brand-name equipment into what it calls "social routers." The goal of the Madrid-based company is to build block-by-block networks of shared wireless connections around the globe, turning local Wi-Fi users into an army of "foneros" — its term for people who share wireless access. As the company's name implies, FON aims to provide wireless Internet access not just to computer users but also for mobile phones and the latest portable gaming devices as they roam. (Story continues below) From: Kevin Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 11:05 AM To: 'Mike Hall' Subject: FW: Wireless In Washington From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:53 AM To: webmaster; omimo Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Wireless In Washington Hiya, Comments below. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services 42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Origi
[WISPA] HELLO is this on?????
Rather quiet, wandering if I have been sidelined. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] AIM Video issues
I know there is AIM issue, why not try skype, it may be better and the do video also. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Scott Reed wrote: So, does anyone have any idea why MS works and AOL doesn't? I need to know, not just for this customer, but it would seem at this time there is an issue with my network that I should address before it impacts anyone else. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: "Blake Bowers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 09:30:02 -0500 Subject: Re: [WISPA] AIM Video issues > No security issues. There are thousands of Morale computers with internet > connections available. Great > way to keep in contact with loved ones. > > - Original Message - > From: "Rick Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 9:22 AM > Subject: RE: [WISPA] AIM Video issues > > I know the POINT, but the PRACTICE is what I'm questioning. Talk about > insecurity. > > _ > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On > Behalf Of Scott Reed > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:01 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: RE: [WISPA] AIM Video issues > > So he can see his kids. > > Scott Reed > Owner > NewWays > Wireless Networking > Network Design, Installation and Administration > www.nwwnet.net <http://www.nwwnet.net/> > > -- Original Message --- > From: "Rick Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 09:50:58 -0400 > Subject: RE: [WISPA] AIM Video issues > > > > > dunno, but why is AIM on that computer in Iraq !? > > > > > _ > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On > Behalf Of Scott Reed > > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 9:42 AM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: [WISPA] AIM Video issues > > > > > > I have a customer that wants to IM with her husband stationed in Iraq. > Working with her computer guy we have found that he and I can do video > via MSMessenger but not AIM. Of couse, MS is not on the computer in > Iraq. Anyone know of issues using AIM? Differences between the two > products. > > > > Scott Reed > > Owner > > NewWays > > Wireless Networking > > Network Design, Installation and Administration > > www.nwwnet.net <http://www.nwwnet.net/> > > > > > --- End of Original Message --- > > > > > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- End of Original Message --- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/385 - Release Date: 11/07/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900 radio
Contact WAV for pricing on Tranzeo 900 802.11g. My Rep. in Canada is Claudio Ricci. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Butch Evans wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Blair Davis wrote: Hoppers don't play nice with Direct Sequence Spread Spectrum. On the other hand, hoppers can get through more noise While this is almost accurate, it is not exacly right. FHSS can cause serious problems for a DSSS system, as the hopper runs across the band. HOWEVER, DSSS will trash about 30% of that spectrum for the hopper. (At least that is the approximate ratio for the 2.4GHz range.) Having said that, FHSS in 900 DOES make a lot of sense, so long as you have the ability to choose where it hops. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New WISPA Vendor Member
Fool it must be you, you told me you were the only WISP there :-D You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Gino A. Villarini wrote: 2,500 radios in Puerto Rico……..who’s that ? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:23 PM To: wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] New WISPA Vendor Member I would like to take this opportunity to introduce a new WISPA Vendor Member to our organization. Optivon has paid their dues and has made it official. They want to work with all of the WISP industry and help support our efforts through WISPA. I am sure I speak for us all in welcoming them to WISPA. If you have a desire to offer VOIP for your customers then consider giving Optivon a shot at your business. After all, they are the first VOIP vendor to actually build their business plan around working with WISPs like you and support our association. I will be talking to them for my own network's VOIP needs. I hope you all do the same. Here is some information about Optivon: Optivon is a facilities based VoIP applications services provider located in Tampa, FL and San Juan, Puerto Rico. We provide hosted services to local exchange carriers, wireless Internet service providers, and other carriers. Our hosted services include IP Centrex/Hosted PBX, Residential VoIP, IP Trunking and other applications. Through various providers, we can offer a very large nationwide local footprint of DID and toll free numbers with E911 service. If you prefer, for increased margins, we can work with you in helping you operate your own local PSTN connections. This is especially attractive for internationally based carriers. We also offer you attractive domestic and international termination rates. Through our CLEC subsidiary in Puerto Rico, we can provide DID origination and termination. Our platform is based on a carrier class tandem softswitch and a Tekelec 6000 (formerly Vocal Data) applications service platform, which is located in a "bunker type" central office facility for increased network reliability. We have a good understanding of wireless data networks, having operated one. Among our customers for hosted VoIP services are a WISP in Tampa that is expanding into Atlanta and South Florida, another in Connecticut, and one that has 2,500 radios installed in Puerto Rico. We provide service to the largest telephone operating company in the World and to small WISP operators. Different than other providers, Optivon is prepared to work with you providing not only the VoIP services, but also sales and engineering support to help you succeed. Also, we will not compete against you. We only sell our services in the USA through carriers. Please visit our web site at www.optivon.com/us to learn more about our services or contact Rafael Morales at the following address: Optivon Inc. Rafael Morales VP Operations 6304 Benjamin Rd. Suite 514 Tampa, FL 33634 Tel: 813-600-6090 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Kaplan Launches CWNA Practice Exam for WLAN Administration
So this is the same as A+ certification and the word WIFI. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Peter R. wrote: Kaplan Launches CWNA Practice Exam for WLAN Administration Posted on: 07/25/2006 Transcender, a division of Kaplan IT Learning that helps individuals and organizations prepare for technology certifications, has partnered with the CWNP (Certified Wireless Network Professional) program to become an authorized third-party practice-test provider for the CWNA WLAN administration certification exam for IT professionals. The CWNP program is an industry standard for WLAN training and certification. IT professionals in 90 countries have received CWNP certification, and more than 20 Wi-Fi companies have become technology partners in the program, according to the company. Transcender's exam simulations mirror questions, explanations and references on the actual exam. CWNP Program www.cwnp.com Kaplan IT Learning www.kaplanitlearning.com Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect & Communicate 813.963.5884 http://4isps.com/newsletter.htm -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] OT - Req. immediate availability on a Sony Outdoor enclosure
Sony SNCFDP8C2/SY Outdoor Clear Dome Housing. It will take Sony NorthAmerica three weeks to get them. I require 5. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] affordable 900 Mhz was Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems
So I have to pay double the price for a CPE that has half the band width?? Something don't jive??? You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Mark McElvy wrote: I agree its more affordable, but how do you eat a $400 cpe? ROI is bad enough with a $200 cpe. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 - Office 573.729.9203 - Fax 573.247.9980 - Mobile http://www.accubak.com/ http://www.accubak.net/ Nationwide Internet Access Accurate backups for your critical data! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 2:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems I appreciate it. We're looking hard at the new 900 stuff from Tranzeo. Gear finally down in the affordable range for me, but, I hate to be one of the first to use it :-) Thanks for everyone's feedback!! - Original Message - From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems Jason Hensley wrote: So Marlon, using what I perceive to be your ideas below, it's not too bad of a deal to put a "marginal" customer on (maybe not at -90, but maybe -80 or even -85, or do you think -85 is not even good enough?) so long as we have a clean link and we can make it with next to no packet loss? In my situation, I'm selling mainly 512kbps connections. I have a few that want a full meg, and one that may be looking at 3meg shortly, but I've got mainly resi customers at the moment. I'm finding though, that I can beat up on DSL pricing for businesses here so I'm starting to hit that market a little more. But, I need to be sure my system is stable before I really get into this. I appreciate everyone's feedback on this topic. Jason, one thing you have to remember is your system is only as good as your weakest link. If you put on a sub who is marginally connected he will pull your ap down when he is busy downloading etc. A link that has no traffic running across it regardless of how weak or marginal it is won't have an effect until he starts passing traffic. Then all hell will break loose. The best strategy is always install solid links and if you do have to hook someone up that will be marginal, make sure it's very temporary and you have an alternative link for it in the near future. I have had to hook up subs that were marginal, but when I do It's because I'm just trying to land the sub and have a game plan like putting in a 900MHz system or maybe a new micro pop repeater to re feed him in the near future. Hope this is helpful George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT - Req. immediate availability on a Sony Outdoor enclosure
I'll remember your offer, might have found some in Manhattan NY, Wife and Daughter is offering to drive down to pick them up? I'm confused, they never do anything like this for me :-( Yea right I'm that stupid ( I might be an idiot, but I'm not stupid, maybe I'll see them in 4 days time for a two day trip.) :-D You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Gino A. Villarini wrote: 1 got one 4 sale offlist Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Carl A Jeptha Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:19 PM To: WISPA General List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] OT - Req. immediate availability on a Sony Outdoor enclosure Sony SNCFDP8C2/SY Outdoor Clear Dome Housing. It will take Sony NorthAmerica three weeks to get them. I require 5. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/399 - Release Date: 25/07/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems
Yes Marlon, real world is different from the theory (yes, Lonnie I know you run your own ISP). I quote "We endeavour to deliver 256kbps, but speed may be up to 4.5 mbps. No "Up Ito's", because you will never see it. Depending on who you ask the radios when they have perfect line of sight is actually capable of 11mbps. So I say again, we endeavour to deliver 256kbps, and if on the day of the install we find for what ever reason that we cannot deliver our speed we will remove the equipment and leave, no charge." Most customers' response is, "Okay so when will you be installing". My response, "we have a two week backlog, we will see if we can fit you in." Customer, "Great, I'll see you in two weeks time" You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I'm gonna disagree with Lonnie here. Kinda. We agree on the -75 dB thing. But on the number of customers I'm wa on the other side of the fence. Probably on the other side of the pasture too. Just in Odessa here we have something like 50 to 75 subs pulling from a single ap. It's an OLD lucent ap1000. Only an 11 meg radio. It feeds two other repeater sites (those are included in the subscriber count). You can run a speed test here at almost any time you want and my customers get 2 to 3 megs of actual speed out to the internet. 4x+ the actual speed of dsl in town for only $5 per month more. I will agree that marginal links will slow the whole network down. But I try to look at things from a pragmatic standpoint. Not just sales or techie view point. The question for me is, are the customers happy? Are they wanting/needing more? Are the expectations properly set and met? My fiber feed here is peaking at 3 megs today. 3.19 to be exact. But the AVERAGE is only 640k. This circuit feeds 24 pots lines and 150ish wireless subs. NON of whom are on bandwidth shaped links. It's wide open for all of them. Some of the businesses get 8ish megs via a trango system in town too. All systems and all customer bases are different. Us "experts" in the industry are often very good at telling you how to run our networks. The hard part is that we're all correct :-P. Here's MY rule of thumb for customers per ap. When people start telling me that things aren't as fast as they used to be, I'll put in another one. OR if *I* know I can do a much better job by splitting things off (gonna do that to one system today, only 10ish subs but it's never worked as well as it should so I'm gonna redesign things, again). My one complaining customer on that tower complains about everything though. When I go to his house to test the actual speed it's always good. Maybe I'm working too hard for one squeaky wheel. Too bad he's not only a tech support guy but also a relative! hehehehehehe Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Lonnie Nunweiler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems As a general rule you should not consider any customer if the cannot achieve at least a 5.5 mbps connection. Consider the numbers below and then make your decision. At 11 mbps link you can transfer between 5.2 mbps and 6 mbps depending on a number of factors, so let's say 5 mbps for easy math. At 5.5 mbps link you have about 2.5 mbps actual data transfer capability. At 2 mbps link you have about 1.5 mbps data transfer capability. At 1 mbps link you have about 700 kbps data transfer capability. If you allow each customer to have a 1 mbps pipe you can support 5 users at 11 mbps link, each at full speed or most likely about 30 to 40 normal users with up to 5 real active at any one time. You can support 2 users at 5.5 mbps link, each at full speed or most likely about 10 to 20 normal users with up to 2 real active at any one time. You can support 1 users at 2 mbps link, at full speed or most likely about 5 to 10 normal users with up to 1 real active at any one time. You cannot support even 1 user at 1 mbps link, at full speed that you allow. Be very aware that 1 user with a 1 mbps link that is allowed to have a 1 mbps pipe will consume EVERY BIT of airtime that you have available. It is just the same as putting in a private link for them, except that you have 20 to 40 other customers who just don't understand why their Internet i
Re: [WISPA] VoIP, Asterisk & Scale
Mac, get a Jack, a 42 oz Jack Daniels after that you will "float to the higher levels". 8-) You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Mac Dearman wrote: If I get taller racks I will have to get a ladder instead of the current step stool in the NOC. Dang - how high horizontal can I expect to scale my *? :) Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP, Asterisk & Scale On Tue, 25 Jul 2006, Matt Liotta wrote: We have found Asterisk doesn't horizontally scale. Therefore, your choice is either to vertically scale and/or to specialize certain operations onto different machines. However, I do agree with Peter in that Asterisk will certainly scale for most people's needs. See there, Mac...you don't need MORE racks...you need TALLER racks. FWIW, I've not tried to scale my Asterisk system, but it is a very near perfect solution for a small (probably a large) office. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Sedona, AZ
ok whatever you are smoking ship me a parcel of it. I might just join you out in the desert You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Dylan Oliver wrote: Wisp acquisitions are actually quite frequent in Sedona, which, as you may know, is renowned as a nexus of spiritual energies. Will o' the Wisps arise spontaneously and lead their victims deep into the desert with dazzling display of lights. The would-be spiritual seekers are then possessed, or 'acquired', and never seen or heard from ever again. Be careful out there, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/402 - Release Date: 27/07/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VoIP, Asterisk & Scale
Now that is not an encouraging post. >:o We all know that laying the rack on it's side will fix the problem. :-P This is all about the excuse about getting the next shot of Jack Daniels. O:-) You must be from the Bible Belt. :-D You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha CHUCK PROFITO wrote: Jeese, just lay the rack on it’s side. And Mac, does that juice change that accent at all? Chuck Profito -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Carl A Jeptha Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 6:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP, Asterisk & Scale Mac, get a Jack, a 42 oz Jack Daniels after that you will "float to the higher levels". 8-) You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Mac Dearman wrote: If I get taller racks I will have to get a ladder instead of the current step stool in the NOC. Dang - how high horizontal can I expect to scale my *? :) Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP, Asterisk & Scale On Tue, 25 Jul 2006, Matt Liotta wrote: We have found Asterisk doesn't horizontally scale. Therefore, your choice is either to vertically scale and/or to specialize certain operations onto different machines. However, I do agree with Peter in that Asterisk will certainly scale for most people's needs. See there, Mac...you don't need MORE racks...you need TALLER racks. FWIW, I've not tried to scale my Asterisk system, but it is a very near perfect solution for a small (probably a large) office. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/402 - Release Date: 27/07/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Chicago tower
He's a farmboy, the implication of more than one tall Structure in the same place might be a little tough for him. ;-) You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Rick Harnish wrote: Marlon, I think we need a leeettle bit more information. There are a lot of people and a lot of towers in Chicago. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181) Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Chicago tower Anyone know who's this is? marlon -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900's and SR9's
5 days from BC to Ontario You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Ryan Spott wrote: Speaking of waiting for Tranzeo, If you do order from Tranzeo direct, then how long does it take to get product? How big are your orders? ryan Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: Whoa, bad assumption Rick. We would never be waiting for anything from Tranzeo. I was saying we are awaiting our first batch of SR9 for evaluation and our own network, but that many of our customers have already tested SR9's with our software, and they report excellent results with both the WAR board and the new V3 code for WRAP boards. The Tranzeo should talk with an SR9 since they both use an Atheros base. The only trouble will be the driver and that I can't speak to. Lonnie On 8/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Lonnie, To clarify please, I assume your saying that you are awaiting your first shipment of Tranzeo 900's for your own usebut others have already deployed WAR Boards V3 or WRAPs with the Tranzeo 900 solution. Is that correct? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lonnie Nunweiler Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900's and SR9's We are awaiting our own shipment but customers have reported good results with WAR boards and the new V3 for x86 WRAP boards. Lonnie On 8/3/06, Rick Harnish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > So, has anyone successfully deployed the Tranzeo 900 solution with SR9's > yet? Mikrotik, Ikarus or Star-OS? I'm looking for real results so I can > start making decisions. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Rick Harnish > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DirecTV, EchoStar reduce bidding in wireless sale
Bunch of Commie bums, What happened to the great capitalist dream?? :-P John as a Rotarian you know, If you help them with the right tools and no handouts the community will succeed. And that is what the FCC must be doing. Competition is good, keep the playing field level and may the best man win. Here's a question, All the incumbents bought alot of spectrum now the other day, they are all now buying more spectrum. Where does the money come from, whose money are they spending And then they squat on the spectrum. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha John Scrivner wrote: The answer is base station licenses for those who need / want spectrum with interference protection and higher power. With this model you could apply for a base station license (in other words 1 tower location worth of spectrum in one geographic area), pay an annual fee and have exclusive use of a small bit of spectrum to allow you to offer services without fear of interference and with higher power which would give you enough coverage area to serve 100% of the potential customers around your base station. This is the answer. Scriv Rich Comroe wrote: Amen. Designing government policy for the purpose of generating the highest income from spectrum licensing is completely contrary to policy designed to serve the public. This had a major role in the US cellular industry losing the worldwide lead (which didn't do any American any good). Why can't our government understand this? European 3G spectrum auctions nearly broke the back of BT (forced it into bankruptcy and spliting the company such that the telecom half didn't sink with the cellular half ... or at least that's how I understood it). The FCC should be managing spectrum for the benefit of the American people, not managing spectrum to maximize government revenue. But that's just me. Rich - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DirecTV, EchoStar reduce bidding in wireless sale Finally, a big company that's got the brains to tell the government to stick their high price spectrum tax where the sun don't shine! marlon - Original Message - From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:38 AM Subject: [WISPA] DirecTV, EchoStar reduce bidding in wireless sale DirecTV, EchoStar reduce bidding in wireless sale http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060816/tc_nm/telecoms_wireless_satellite_dc_3 Thank you. Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect & Communicate 813.963.5884 efax 530-323-7025 http://4isps.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] now known as bash Johnny party
To be able to bash him, please supply 24 beer for his headache that will there from the bashing. No beer, no Bashing. Johnny remember to share the beer ;-) You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: Thanks JohnnyO. Matt Larsen (conveniently located halfway between Louisiana and Canada, between the two extremes :^) [EMAIL PROTECTED] JohnnyO wrote: I appologize if I offended any canadians with my "canadian" comment. Also appologize if I offended anyone by accusing someone of stealing a thread for self-promotion of their own product lines not associated with the thread title itself. Some things just get me excited. Bash me offlist if needed. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 4:42 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2 [THREAD CLOSED] Better late than never! This Thread is closed. Start a new thread if you want to discuss either platforms further and keep it civil. Offline discussions with the various parties of this thread have taken place and concerns have been voiced. Rick Harnish President Supernova Technologies, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 3:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2 Thank you Matt. I am glad you took this one. I would have said the exact same things you did if I was that good with words. I absolutely agree with everything you said here. :-) Scriv Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: Calm down kids!! First of all to JohnnyO - you need to spend a lot more time practicing some self-control. Instead of digging into Lonnie, why not just make a request to change the name of the thread. FWIW, Lonnie did NOT hijack this thread - others who were testing WAR boards out brought up their experiences with it and testing and Lonnie responded. That is entirely appropriate. There would not be a response like George's if you didn't have a history of pissing people off on this and other lists. What George said is true - there are companies and other WISPs that won't subscribe to a list of you are on it. I'm not going to go into details here, but you are welcome to hit me up offlist if you want a breakdown. Also it is not George's responsibility to manage posts and subject lines, so it is not fair to dig into him about list management. Second, to George. I appreciate your desire to maintain decorum on the lists, but I think it would have been more appropriate to respond to JohnnyO offlist. I don't think this was a situation of bigotry, just a slightly misunderstood bit of joking around between a couple of people who are a little bit sensitive toward ribbing coming from each other. Not a big deal at all. Finally, to everyone... I am very happy to see that we have built up a nice community on the WISPA lists, and I hope we continue to build that sense of community. I am all for a little bit of spice and it is good to see some legitimate, real world experience and testing get exchanged between the members. Of all the lists I'm on, this is now the most useful one to me by FAR, and that is not something that happened overnight. It has taken some time and unfortunately we do still have to try to put people in their place when things get a little too out of hand, but overall I think that we have done a very good job of maintaining the balance between total control and anarchy. Peace out, Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] JohnnyO wrote: George - can you tell me if calling me a bigot is a slam ? IF it is, then you fall under the same category. I guess it's ok for a vendor to hijack threads to promote his own stuff ? The thread was about the Routerboard 532As and Mikrotik. This is my opinion and I will post my opinions. I guess you think it's ok for you to practice DICTATORSHIP ? I was not interested in reading posts labled Routerboard 532 and Star-OS crap. If I were interested in Star-OS crap instead of Mikrotik, then I would look for posts labled Star-OS ! Maybe you should put more time into managing the posts and subject lines of the threads. I do have an opinion and am a paying member. Which vendors are you talking about ? Which WISPs ? Don't throw out bullcrap unless you're willing to provide the proof. I banter/kid/joke with the Canadians and have for several years and will continue to do so. I have slammed vendors on Part-15s lists and also Judd's list who have proved to me to be substandard in customer service or product quality, but I can
Re: [WISPA] WHY?
wrong, every person has the right to be assumed innocent until proven guilty. To all, As a police officer, i need a wiretap on a phone line, because i believe the person using that ph. line is doing something illegal. When i get that permission from the judicial authority i may start tracking what is happening on that ph. line. Before that, what ever is happening on that ph. line is not legally available to me. So why would the ph company have records of that ph line ready for me, before the court gave me permission to tap that ph. line? You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha George Rogato wrote: Mark Koskenmaki wrote: Why? Because it will severely burden smaller ISP's that lack the network infrastructure to do this. Is WISPA lobbying against this? It will be nearly impossible for most of us in the wireless business to do this, without major restructuring, or a huge expense that we can't afford. Mark, I can tell that you are a fellow Oregonian! Thats my guess why... Just to bust our nuts and give us all a push over the edge. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] tower logo
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Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
Sam, Thank you, that is what I wanted to hear. If a "system board" is certified then the "operating system" is certified for "FCC" and of course your mini-pci was certified by the manufacturer. Now anybody can attach an antenna and have it certified. Total certification. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Sam Tetherow wrote: For the record, I don't feel that you "have no credibility because you no longer run a WISP", I just don't agree with you and if 15.201-221 is your basis for the belief that a RB can't be considered under component rules I have to believe that you don't understand what a RB is. It is NOT an intentional radiator which is what 15.201-221 addresses. A RB is simply a single board computer, the same thing as a soekris, gateworks or wrap board as well as most PDA (pre-wifi) and most laptops. The only intentional radiator is the miniPCI or PCMCIA radio that is put into the expansion slot of the SBC, just like in a laptop which has a PCMCIA and miniPCI slot where I can install wireless cards. I am NOT saying that with 100% certainty, the RB can be component certified, the question needs to be asked of the FCC. And this still leaves the fact that as far as I know none of the MT routerboards are even FCC part B certified. This also does not address the fact that you still would have to use certified radio/antenna pairs in the SBC once component certification was verified. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Dawn DiPietro wrote: Sam, Since some here feel I have no credibility because I no longer run a WISP I will let you decide from this information provided. Starting on page 78 of the following link should explain why the wireless devices in question cannot be certified as computers. http://www.fcc.gov/oet/info/rules/part15/part15-2-16-06.pdf Regards, Dawn DiPietro Sam Tetherow wrote: I think the question that really hasn't been answered is if a RB can be certified class B and then use a certified radio/antenna combo as is allowed with a PC/laptop. And you are right that then FCC makes the rules. What is not clear is that Dawn's (and others) position that the component rules can not apply to an RB or other SBC. The only people that can clarify this is the FCC. As for FCC certification in general, I think there are two major factors that come into play with uncertified gear. There are several that deployed the equipment under the false impression that it was legal because they complied with the EIRP rules (and many still persist in this belief). The other is the simple fact that no one has been fined, to my knowledge, for using uncertified gear. There have been instances of people that have been fined for using over EIRP and unauthorized use of licensed bands. If the FCC has not fined for the behavior yet and has made unofficial statements to the effect that they are more worried about EIRP and 477, it comes as no surprise that people will not follow the law. As you pointed out most people regularly break the speed limit, which is a law with an associated fine but they continue to do so because the fine is not large enough or incurred often enough to make it an effective deterrent. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Matt Liotta wrote: This has become a ridiculous thread. Dawn's customer experience is irrelevant in this case. Plenty of operators who have lots of customers (including me) understand and agree with the position presented. Don't kill the messenger! The FCC makes the rules; not Dawn or me or any of the other folks who have made accurate statements regarding certification. Use of certified equipment is required by law. Many people break laws for a variety of reasons, but that doesn't change the law. For example, everyday I drive over the speed limit and occasionally I am fined for doing so. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Ignore testing mailserver migration
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[WISPA] Reverse DNS
If I only have a 16 pubic ip addresses, can I control my reverse dns or should my upstream be doing that In the past it was always done that way, but now they are try to change and some of my email is not working - no reverse dns. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Reverse DNS
They will look into it this afternoon. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Dennis Burgess wrote: I don't konw if it is RFC or not. Just saying, it can be done! On 7/12/07, Matt Liotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My fault; I didn't realize RFC 2317 had changed things. -Matt Graham McIntire wrote: > I have a delegated reverse on a /25 from AT&T. If you do a whois on > my netblock the reverse DNS servers are still AT&T's, but they forward > all the requests on that block to my servers. > > Graham > > On 7/12/07, Matt Liotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Delegated reverse DNS control cannot work with smaller than /24 IP >> blocks. >> >> -Matt >> >> Carl A jeptha wrote: >> > If I only have a 16 pubic ip addresses, can I control my reverse dns >> > or should my upstream be doing that In the past it was always done >> > that way, but now they are try to change and some of my email is not >> > working - no reverse dns. >> > >> >> >> >> Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board >> know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA >> lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this >> time. We want to know your thoughts. >> >> >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board > know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA > lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this > time. We want to know your thoughts. > > Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Reverse lookup
can someone do a reverse look up on the following # 142.46.11.217. I need to know who is answering for it. Also need to know how to create a proper revers name for 16 ip addresses in bind all I'm is info for a /24 -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Reverse lookup
Our upstream has finally plug in our server names to their dns servers and now we are working again You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Carl A jeptha wrote: can someone do a reverse look up on the following # 142.46.11.217. I need to know who is answering for it. Also need to know how to create a proper revers name for 16 ip addresses in bind all I'm is info for a /24 Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Reverse lookup
Ok will try this. thanks. will report back.
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Graham McIntyre wrote:
My /25 is delegated to me from ATT as the zone:
128/25.xx.xx.12.in-addr.arpa
In my named.conf I have:
zone "128/25.xx.xx.12.in-addr.arpa" {
type master;
file "master/29.xx.12.in-addr.arpa";
};
Take note the CIDR and last octet of my network are reversed, my
netblock is 12.xx.xx.128/25.
Graham
On 7/12/07, David E. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Carl A jeptha wrote:
> can someone do a reverse look up on the following # 142.46.11.217. I
> need to know who is answering for it. Also need to know how to
create a
> proper revers name for 16 ip addresses in bind all I'm is info for
a /24
I don't think BIND can handle smaller allocations. You may have to
pretend to be authoritative for the whole /24. (Your upstream will,
presumably, only route requests for your /28 to you, so the only folks
who would ever know the difference are you, and any customers of yours
who do reverse lookups on the rest of that /24, which probably doesn't
happen too often.)
David Smith
MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] Reverse lookup
I have done as you directed and it is working, I love my freedom, if I
want to change a server I don't have to fill in the forms in triplicate
and wait three for the instruction to executed wrong. :-D
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Graham McIntire wrote:
My /25 is delegated to me from ATT as the zone:
128/25.xx.xx.12.in-addr.arpa
In my named.conf I have:
zone "128/25.xx.xx.12.in-addr.arpa" {
type master;
file "master/29.xx.12.in-addr.arpa";
};
Take note the CIDR and last octet of my network are reversed, my
netblock is 12.xx.xx.128/25.
Graham
On 7/12/07, David E. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Carl A jeptha wrote:
> can someone do a reverse look up on the following # 142.46.11.217. I
> need to know who is answering for it. Also need to know how to
create a
> proper revers name for 16 ip addresses in bind all I'm is info for
a /24
I don't think BIND can handle smaller allocations. You may have to
pretend to be authoritative for the whole /24. (Your upstream will,
presumably, only route requests for your /28 to you, so the only folks
who would ever know the difference are you, and any customers of yours
who do reverse lookups on the rest of that /24, which probably doesn't
happen too often.)
David Smith
MVN.net
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[WISPA] Wimax
I have to attend a meeting tomorrow and need some real world experience on wimax and mesh. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wimax
Thank you everyone, now I guess it is time to sleep and see where we go tomorrow. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Patrick Leary wrote: Thanks Felix. So what is Jeff saying? (Got a direct link to the article?) Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Felix A. Lopez Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wimax Pat, there is a good write up about Alvarion on www.wimax.com blog by a Mr. Orr. Felix --- Patrick Leary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Actually, 802.16d gear has been out there for a while now in WiMAX Forum certified versions (our .16d was certified two years ago). The plugfests you see going today are for 802.16e products, but the actual 16.e certification waves do not start until early next year. Our commercially selling .16e versions have been in the market now for over 1/2 a year and are selling in 3.5, 2.5 and 2.3 GHz versions. These are products we will be submitting for when the certification waves finally begin. In terms of Alvarion, we are selling both .16d and .16d WiMAX products in commercial volumes. Our next quarterly report will be made on August 1 and we always give deep detail on what and how much is selling and where. To give you an example of where we are, from our last SEC quarterly filing in May 2007 here are some statistics: * More than 150 commercial WiMAX deployments and another 220 active WiMAX trials * Shipped BreezeMAX 802.16e platform to over 20 customers * Approximately $33 million in BreezeMAX shipments for the first quarter These are "hard" (as in SEC legally-binding) numbers from the quarterly PR and I include them to demonstrate that WiMAX shipments are more than just market hype, at least from our standpoint (we are shipping more WiMAX than any other company). Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Felix A. Lopez Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax Sam: I'm interested in verifying those statistics too because my understanding is the "WIMax Plugfests" are still going on and most of the equipment being installed is "preWiMax:" albeit in the 802.16 (d) flavor. I will post to the www.wimax.com blog and find out. I know many of the guys on the webserv. Carl - are you giving a presentation on WiMax? Seems like there are some "subject matter experts" or "knowlegable" people who participate on this listserv who can help you. Felix A. Lopez Wireless Practitioner --- Sam Tetherow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Can anyone confirm 232,000 WiMAX customers for Clearwire? I could believe total customers, but I would think that the majority of those would be using NextNet equipment and not WiMax. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Felix A. Lopez wrote: Carl, Regarding your question, my understanding is a few of us wireless practioneers blog on various wimax sites in relation to WISP and enterprise. My subject matter expertise relates to utility applicaitons and munis. Many of these sectors are evaluating WiMax and WiFi for certain mobile and connectivity appilcations - mobile workforce, utility metering, SCADA, IP enabled utility services. But for For genral information on installations, take a look at the following study provided by Maravedis at www.wimax.com Please note my quotation marks in respect to the author of the report: Adelane Fellah, CEO and founder of Maravedis: "By the end of Q1 2007, the 110 operators in our (Maravedis) industry-leading WiMAXCounts Ã'-- theWiMAX Operators Tracking Service Ã'-- accounted for nearly 1 million WiMAX subscribers. A total of 150,000 subscribers were added over the first quarter of 2007, for 17.5% quarterly growth. The year-over-year growth in Q1 2007 was 85%. The United States, Spain, and Australia are the top three countries in number of subscribers. In Q1 2007 they had 0.5 million WiMAX subscribers. The operators with the most WiMAX subscribers within a single region in Q1 2007 are Clearwire (US), with a customer base of 232,000; Unwired Australia, with more than 63,500; Iberbanda (Spain), with over 40,000; and MVS Mexico (ClearwireÃ'
[WISPA] Quick Apache Help
My web guy is in hospital - long story short - getting an error and need to bring up sites right now. What do i know about apache, about the same as I'm being paid - zero. :-) I need to do this like yesterday? So I am on a very sharp learning curve. Here's an error I'm getting: Executing /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd restart .. Stopping httpd: [ OK ] Starting httpd: [Wed Aug 01 11:35:54 2007] [warn] VirtualHost www.goldenbeachestates.ca:80 overlaps with VirtualHost www.cobourgyachtclub.ca:80, the first has precedence, perhaps you need a NameVirtualHost directive [Wed Aug 01 11:35:54 2007] [warn] VirtualHost www.trussworthy.ca:80 overlaps with VirtualHost www.goldenbeachestates.ca:80, the first has precedence, perhaps you need a NameVirtualHost directive [Wed Aug 01 11:35:54 2007] [warn] VirtualHost www.cayita.com:80 overlaps with VirtualHost www.trussworthy.ca:80, the first has precedence, perhaps you need a NameVirtualHost directive [Wed Aug 01 11:35:54 2007] [warn] VirtualHost www.fbparch.com:80 overlaps with VirtualHost www.cayita.com:80, the first has precedence, perhaps you need a NameVirtualHost directive [Wed Aug 01 11:35:54 2007] [warn] VirtualHost www.castleton.ca:80 overlaps with VirtualHost www.fbparch.com:80, the first has precedence, perhaps you need a NameVirtualHost directive [Wed Aug 01 11:35:54 2007] [warn] VirtualHost www.isowall.ca:80 overlaps with VirtualHost www.castleton.ca:80, the first has precedence, perhaps you need a NameVirtualHost directive [Wed Aug 01 11:35:54 2007] [warn] VirtualHost www.hamiltontownship.ca:80 overlaps with VirtualHost www.isowall.ca:80, the first has precedence, perhaps you need a NameVirtualHost directive [Wed Aug 01 11:35:54 2007] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts [ OK ] I don't know what it means -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: Update on T1 Mobile Wireless Service
Jack it must be a slow day in that office of yours. :-D You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Jack Unger wrote: Jory, I"m glad you posted this information. I checked out their websites. On the technical side, they release NO technical details yet make performance promises that appear to "break the laws of physics". Given the technical information that they have published (and not published) so far, I'd advise *SEND NO MONEY* and stay as far away from these companies as you possibly can. Don't worry about them "putting you out of business". 1. On the technical side; their claims are unsupported. 2. On the marketing side, they want your money now but they can't give you any technical details until later. 3. On the fear side, they threaten to put you out of business if you don't sign up. NOTE: If you do decide to go ahead and send them money, please let me know immediately because I'd like to give you more information about a tremendous business opportunity for you to get free money for simply telling people about a new "magic liquid" that I have discovered that has the power to make people believe that their cancer (any and every kind of cancer) has been cured. As a free bonus and for no additional charge, with every order I'll include a bottle of my brand new, world-famous, gender-bending "little white pills". One of these pills, when taken with my "magic liquid" will restore the sexual potency of everyone between 30 and 99 years of age to the level of a 15-year old teenager. Just think, my "little white pills" when taken together with my "magic liquid" have the power to virtually banish starvation from the world and to practically erase death. To get your free money I'll simply ask you to send me $99 right away to sign up to start your free money rolling in. Please act now because this chance may never come your way again! Disclaimer: I am not a medical doctor. Check with your own doctor before taking or changing any medications that you may already be taking. Nothing in the above post is intended to diagnose or to cure any disease or any medical condition. Jory Privett wrote: HiHas anyone heard of these guys? They keep calling me wanting me to sign up to resell their service saying that if I don't there new technoligy will put me out of business. So far they claim 1.5M NLOS at 30 miles. They say it will cut through trees up to 16 to 20 miles in mountain terain. And they are selling T1s for $19.95 and T3s for $70-$80 with no setup, installation, or equipment costs.. And I get a whole $3 for for each customer I sign up. They also claim to be able to sell T2 and T3 service also. They claim to have 3 licenesed frequencies but will not disclose them. Sounds like a bunch of BS to me. Lots of marketing fluff and no facts. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Jack Sample / Namia Corporation To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:29 PM Subject: Update on T1 Mobile Wireless Service Hi Jory, Tuesday, July 31, 2007 Hopefully you haven't forgotten me since a lot of water has passed under the bridge since I last communicated with you regarding the T-1 to T-3 level mobile wireless Internet service that is soon to be launched on the world. Well, you may have thought that we went away but it was only a temporary delay. First of all I want to apologize to you for the early notification that turned out to be a false summit. We had felt that launch was eminent when we sent out the cards late last year. The setback was only temporary though and we are finally emerging from the quiet time and able to share what is going on with everyone. I have included the last 7 months of short notes from ItsYourNet CEO Ken Stewart to catch you up on where are are and what can be expected in the next few months. I don't have any information other than what comes out in these news briefs so just stay tuned for further developments. January 4: From ItsYourNet CEO Ken Stewart... The questions are still coming in about the Wireless Internet project and Stock in the Corporation since I released the last newsletter announcing the orders we are under with the "Quiet Time" on Thursday, December 22, 2006. So... Let me say this again... "We are under strict orders to not say anything further about the Wireless project until authorized to do so." And as a result, these questions need to stop coming in to our support channels - Thank you! Furthermore, with a $13-Billion investor, no Seed or Preferred Stock needs to be offered and
Re: [WISPA] sigh
Adding the link as a news item for clients to read. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: http://now.eloqua.com/es.asp?s=303&e=DF1EADB0E7D4476EB904375231EC2671&elq=2E305B24C0614377B52BFFD4AE865E6B I HATE those people. Hope they all die quick but painful deaths. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions
Tranzeo's can run at 24volts You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Mac Dearman wrote: Most of the gear is(24 to 48vdc) MikroTik, but there are some Tranzeo TR5A (18vdc)backhaul radios as well as Trango Tlink 10's (24vdc)and even one Proxim Radio (48vdc) in place there. Thanks, Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions What gear do you need to power on ? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 10:51 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions I have an 80' Rohn 25G tower on top of a 110' concrete grain elevator. This elevators power is giving me fits as they are flipping breakers on and off as they are in full swing with all the corn coming in right now out of the fields. I do have everything on UPS's, but need to move up the ranks for longer run times to 4 larger marine batteries to accomplish longer run times when the breakers are flipped off. Here is my question: Do they make a device that has multiple DC power output voltages (12/18/24/48) that connects directly to a set of batteries with the ability to connect multiple devices and if so - how do you keep your batteries charged? I would like to run my gear directly off the DC power instead of plugging everything into 120vdc and then have the wall warts convert to the DC power. I currently have 10 radios on top of the elevator and it is a major distribution point for the North and East legs of our network. Any and all suggestions are welcomed!! Thanks folks, Mac --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.17/951 - Release Date: 8/13/2007 10:15 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum
Mac take it to the member list, as I am also interested in license. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Mac Dearman wrote: Jack, Most of the 2.5 and 2.3GHz spectrum has been being snatched up by Sprint in the last 3 years. They aren't doing anything with it right now that I am aware of, but rumor has it that they are in cahoots with Clear Wire. I have a contract here between Sprint and the local educational facility that shows a onetime payment of $50,000.00 and $250.00 a month. They locked the spectrum into contract for the remainder of the 30 years. It would have been nice if I had been a few months earlier on my quest! A man can find open/unused spectrum if he knows how/where to look in his area. Drop me a line off list or on the member list and I will be glad to share with you what I have learned lately. Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 7:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum I have a client with a 900 MHz network that has been deployed more than 5 years. Apparently without doing a wireless site survey, the City has deployed two 900 MHz automatic meter reading systems. One uses Itron hardware and one use Utillicom hardware. There is now a head-to-head battle as the City networks are creating intense interference problems for the WISP network. I know all about interference-reduction techniques as I've been utilizing and teaching these techniques for years but what I don't know about are the possibilities of leasing licensed spectrum (2.3 or 2.5) in order to estimate the cost of moving from the 900 MHz band to a licensed range. I'd appreciate it if anyone could offer any advice or insight into possibly leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz frequency space. Is this possible or is it out of the question? Thanks in advance, jack -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. FCC License # PG-12-25133 Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" True Vendor-Neutral Wireless Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting FCC Part 15 Certification for Manufacturers and Service Providers Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.0/957 - Release Date: 8/16/2007 1:46 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Apache question
I am hosting a domain name (blahblah.ca) that must be re-directed to another hosting company (blahblah.com). I have read some info but cannot make sense of it. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] test ignore
look whose talking You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Butch Evans wrote: On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Mac Dearman wrote: Test Quit goofing off and get to work! ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post
1998 with original Waverider Equipment You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Mike Hammett wrote: Wow, 6.5 years ago... I don't think I was even looking at becoming a WISP then. ;-) --Mike - Original Message - From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:21 PM Subject: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post So I was looking through some old material when I came across this glossary of wireless business related acronyms that WISPs should be familiar with in this space. For the new person, it can be daunting to keep track. I sent to this list 6 1/2 years ago. I though it merited a re-send, with some additions. Deeper concepts are further below. Hope it is helpful and if I missed any key ones, please add. Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Patrick Leary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 8:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Glossary Common abbreviations and/or acronyms... 477: (Form 477) FCC's mandatory broadband reporting form for commercial operators AAA server: authentication authorization accounting server APD: automatic protocol detection AES OCB: usually just called "AES," advanced encryption standard offset code book AIFS: arbitration inter-frame spacing AP: access point ARK: automatic retransmission queing ARS: automatic rate switching ASN-GW: access service network gateway ATPC: automatic transmit power control AU: access unit (same as above) BE: best effort BER: bit error rate BRS: Broadband Radio Service (commercial side of the 2.5 GHz allocation in the US) BSS: basic service set BST: base station (referred more often this way in licensed networks) BWA: broadband wireless access BWIA: broadband wireless Internet access (Steve Stroh's preferred acronym) CBR: constant bit rate CC: convolutional coding CDL: cell distance learning (refers to an automatic process within RF devices) CDMA: code division multiple access CG (or UGS): constant grant or unsolicited grant service CIR: committed information rate CoS: class of service CPE: customer premises equipment C/I: carrier to interference ratio CSMA/CA: carrier sense multiple access/collision avoidance EBS: Educational Broadband Spectrum (2.5 GHz allocated to non-profits, may be sublet), formerly ITFS (Instructional Fixed Television Service) DFS: dynamic frequency selection DFS2 or DFS+: second generation DFS (mandated for all new 5.3 and all 5.4 GHz) DIFS: distributed coordination function inter-frame spacing) DS (or DSSS): direct sequence spread spectrum EIRP: effective isotropic radiated power (expressed in dB) EMI: electromagnetic interference ESSID: extended service set ID FCC: Federal Communications Commission FDD: frequency division duplex FEQ: forward error correction FFT: fast fourier transform mathematical algorithm FH (or FHSS): frequency hopping spread spectrum FIPS: federal information processing standards GFSK: Gausian frequency shift keying HIPPA: Healthcare Insurance Portability and Accountability Act IC: Industry Canada (Canadian peer to FCC) IDU: indoor unit IF: intermediate frequency ISM: Industrial, Scientific, and Medical LOS: Line of sight LQI: link quality indicator MAC: media access control MAN: metropolitan area network MIB: management information bit(s) MIR: maximum information rate NLOS: Near/non LOS NMS: network management system NPU: network processing unit OA&M: operation, administration & maintenance ODU: outdoor unit OET: Office of Engineering and Technology (FCC division responsible for equipment authorization and rules enforcement) OFDM: orthogonal frequency division multiplexing OFDMA: orthogonal frequency division multiple access OBE or OOBE: out-of-band emissions PAN: personal area network Part 15: refers to FCC regulations in Part 15.247 of the Federal Code governing certain UL bands PIU: power interface unit PoE: power over Ethernet PtMP or PmP: point-to-multipoint PtP: Point-to-point QAM: quadrature amplitude modulation QinQ: VLAN type that allows customer to have own VLAN inside the operator's VLAN QoS: quality of service RAN: radio access network RFI: radio frequency interference RSSI: receive(r) signal strength index/indication rtPS: real time polling services RTS/CTS: request to send, clear to send Rx: receive RTCP: real time control protocol RTP: real time protocol SCADA: supervisory control and data acquisition SDR: software defined radio SIF: short inter-frame spacing SIP: session initiation protocol SNR: signal to noise ratio SOFDMA: scalable orthogonal frequency division multiple access STC: space time coding TDD: time division duplex TDMA: time division multiple access TVoIP: TV over IP Tx: transmit UL: of
Re: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post
See what happens Marlon, when you don't slapdown these anklebiters You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Mike Hammett wrote: Yeah, whether that's a good thing (Marlon being around) or not has yet to be determined. :-p --Mike - Original Message - From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:39 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post Yes, some of us have been around here a while. There used to be one list back when I made my first post in December of 1999. That was when Jason Simons of Midcoast in Maine was the sage of WISPs. And I remember being there at Mike's first WISPCON when Scriv showed up all wide eyed and chomping at the bit. Now he is out there bidding for licensed spectrum and wearing the leadership mantle along with a number of you. Marlon was of course around -- always has been and probably always will! Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post Wow, 6.5 years ago... I don't think I was even looking at becoming a WISP then. ;-) --Mike - Original Message - From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:21 PM Subject: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post So I was looking through some old material when I came across this glossary of wireless business related acronyms that WISPs should be familiar with in this space. For the new person, it can be daunting to keep track. I sent to this list 6 1/2 years ago. I though it merited a re-send, with some additions. Deeper concepts are further below. Hope it is helpful and if I missed any key ones, please add. Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Patrick Leary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 8:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Glossary Common abbreviations and/or acronyms... 477: (Form 477) FCC's mandatory broadband reporting form for commercial operators AAA server: authentication authorization accounting server APD: automatic protocol detection AES OCB: usually just called "AES," advanced encryption standard offset code book AIFS: arbitration inter-frame spacing AP: access point ARK: automatic retransmission queing ARS: automatic rate switching ASN-GW: access service network gateway ATPC: automatic transmit power control AU: access unit (same as above) BE: best effort BER: bit error rate BRS: Broadband Radio Service (commercial side of the 2.5 GHz allocation in the US) BSS: basic service set BST: base station (referred more often this way in licensed networks) BWA: broadband wireless access BWIA: broadband wireless Internet access (Steve Stroh's preferred acronym) CBR: constant bit rate CC: convolutional coding CDL: cell distance learning (refers to an automatic process within RF devices) CDMA: code division multiple access CG (or UGS): constant grant or unsolicited grant service CIR: committed information rate CoS: class of service CPE: customer premises equipment C/I: carrier to interference ratio CSMA/CA: carrier sense multiple access/collision avoidance EBS: Educational Broadband Spectrum (2.5 GHz allocated to non-profits, may be sublet), formerly ITFS (Instructional Fixed Television Service) DFS: dynamic frequency selection DFS2 or DFS+: second generation DFS (mandated for all new 5.3 and all 5.4 GHz) DIFS: distributed coordination function inter-frame spacing) DS (or DSSS): direct sequence spread spectrum EIRP: effective isotropic radiated power (expressed in dB) EMI: electromagnetic interference ESSID: extended service set ID FCC: Federal Communications Commission FDD: frequency division duplex FEQ: forward error correction FFT: fast fourier transform mathematical algorithm FH (or FHSS): frequency hopping spread spectrum FIPS: federal information processing standards GFSK: Gausian frequency shift keying HIPPA: Healthcare Insurance Portability and Accountability Act IC: Industry Canada (Canadian peer to FCC) IDU: indoor unit IF: intermediate frequency ISM: Industrial, Scientific, and Medical LOS: Line of sight LQI: link quality indicator MAC: media access control MAN: metropolitan area network MIB: management information bit(s) MIR: maximum information rate NLOS: Near/non LOS NMS: network management system NPU: network processing unit OA&M: operation, administration & maintenance ODU: outdoor unit OET: Office of Engineering and Technology (FCC division responsible for equipment authorization and rules enforcement) OFDM: or
Re: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post
Thats better. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: ppttthhhttt Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Glossary, updated from 6 years ago post Yeah, whether that's a good thing (Marlon being around) or not has yet to be determined. :-p --Mike ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Leaving the list
Ralph, From Canada, This is a list of people who did what no one else would do. You are a Johnny (excuse me Johnny O) come lately and want the rules that you have in your HAM world. We never had those, no RUS, no easy access to the FCC, no a whole lot of help, but bunch of losers got more done with the scraps from the table than anyone else. I did not see the HAM's going to the FCC and saying this is a good thing, you should help them. I see nothing but condemnation for the work we did, earthlink and the rest of the losers with their year 2005 wireless that is not profitable does not work, etc, etc. Good Bye people, Rick find another moderator for Canada, I'm gone. Scriv, Marlon, Johnny, and the rest of you Good Bye. Again WISPA general list is revolving around the Good ole United States. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Ralph wrote: John- I certainly hope you don't think I'm sniping at your character! My request is simply that our organization, WISPA, state its position on legal operation and the use of certified systems. It could be a position paper, a resolution, or anything else "official" that addresses this specific issue. Certainly changing and improving the FCC regulations is what we all want, but that hasn't happened. We have to work with what we have, not go around it because we think its wrong, or unfair, or stupid, or whatever. As many have said, it is a not a popular subject, but the FCC rules are a fact of life and WISPA needs to decide what it does or does not support. Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 8:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Leaving the list I have tried to share what I believe are good paths to proceed for WISPs and WISPA and mostly all I get back are rude comments and smug lashes at my character here. I have too many things going to be bothered with all the divisive rhetoric and sniping attitudes from many on this list server. I am leaving the list for a while. Someone can let me know when people settle down and decide they want to focus on unification instead of dividing the group. Good bye for now... Scriv ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] response to Pulver Blog
My apologies if I upset anybody, but this is what I commented on the above Blog, I am tired of all the bullshit. I am angry that I cannot be there to help these guys with what they are doing, so Mac, Johnny and Company remember there is another side to this - being frustrated because you cannot lift a hand to help. "Gentlemen and Ladies, May I draw your attention to a group of WISP (Wireless Internet Service Providers) who before an "disaster" was declared was already delivering "communications" to shelters. When "only 40 people" had died from Katrina, they were on the ground and knew the tally would be in the thousands, they knew New Orleans would not be spared. These are the men and women who were on the ground running before FEMA and the President was properly briefed. They were the ones, with donations from other WISP's and related services who started the first communications. Don't be fooled by the "BIG GUYS" PR Dept. because they were a full week or more behind these WISPS, but we don't have a PR dept. who only sees this as a marketing opportunity. Please visit the site of these wisps - href="http://www.crisis.wispa.org";>http://www.crisis.wispa.org and our parent org. http://www.wispa.org.";>http://www.wispa.org. Please note I find it very distressing to see these unsung heroes not been mentioned. These people have been working eighteen hour days, using their own resources to deliver these communication services." So guys just keep your heads high and know that where ever I see you not being recognized, I will pipe up in my normal abrasive rude self and tell the true story. For those of you like me who cannot help, I believe this is the way we can do it. Call your local radio/tv station and newspaper and make them tell Mac, Johnny and Company's true story. Ok I feel better now :-[ -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Industry Canada Committee
Yes Marlon, you are sucking me in. ;-) Let me know what you want to do. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, I've been talking to a gal from Industry Canada. She's pointed me to this as the best site for WISPs to keep up on what they are doing. http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/internet/insmt-gst.nsf/en/home Anyone here care to head up a sub committee to the FCC committee? I'd have to run it past the board but I can't see any problems with the idea If you're interested touch base with me and we'll carry it from there. I'd like to see 4 or 5 people involved. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Industry Canada Committee
I have a text file of all the notable comments made for to the FCC by you guys and will put together a "letter" made from the comments. Life is strange, I almost have contracts with almost all of the municipalities in our county and we are gearing up for a major rollout of internet in the county. Our MP is/was responsible for Rural Broadband Internet Solutions, so maybe it is time I went to bat for Canadian WISPS. Problem though is that I don't do politics to well, last time I checked a spade was still a spade, no matter what your called it. :-P You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: It's Canadia! (grin) There's not much I can do. Other than try to get you guys hooked up with the contact that I've made and hopefully help you guys do for Canada what we've been working hard to get the FCC to do for the USA. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Carl A Jeptha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Industry Canada Committee Yes Marlon, you are sucking me in. ;-) Let me know what you want to do. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, I've been talking to a gal from Industry Canada. She's pointed me to this as the best site for WISPs to keep up on what they are doing. http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/internet/insmt-gst.nsf/en/home Anyone here care to head up a sub committee to the FCC committee? I'd have to run it past the board but I can't see any problems with the idea If you're interested touch base with me and we'll carry it from there. I'd like to see 4 or 5 people involved. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Potential Customer - Trenton, Ontario Canada
Where exactly in Trenton? You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Cliff wrote: Anyone offer coverage in Trenton, Ontario? - Cliff -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: 03/11/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Marlon not awake
Hey Marlon, I asked you for the contact information of the person in Ottawa. (damn it is hard to get good help these days) >:o You getting so famous it is hard trying to talk to you. Maybe I should make like I am as famous as you. :-P Just trying to get the ball rolling up here in the Frozen North. But we are little concerned, we have had no snow in our area yet, so to the person who has been hi-jacking our snowstorm, can we have it back, before you used it. :-$ It is Monday I thought I would start the week right ;-) -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Inmarsat launches new broadband service to Eurpoe, Africa, and Asia...
Spoke to bgan people and they intend to deliver voice also. I will be in South Africa for 4 weeks and will be looking into it. Costs though seem to remove it from most rural areas. $900 for equipment and just under 7.00/mB. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Blair Davis wrote: Assuming the data request goes from the sat terminal to the sat, then from the sat to the earth link station, out and back from the internet, then from the earth link station to the sat, and finally from the sat back to the terminal, it will have traveled about 143,000Km. With the speed of light being 300,000Km/sec there is about 450ms of latency caused by the simple physical layout of any sat based system. This doesn't explain the sat latency I have seen around here 1400ms to google via Directway, 1300ms to google via Wild Blue. Nor does it account for the 30kbit/sec upload speeds... Wild Blue's local partner just suspended installs in my area. They claim that they can't install any more because of upload speed and latency problems caused by too many users with too much traffic. I am now picking up users who the local partner got all excited about Wild Blue. And once Wild Blue users see a wireless connection with 300-500kbit upload speeds, they start breaking their contracts... Just my $.02. -- Tony Weasler wrote: I wonder what the latency is going to be. The second article mentions a usage cost of between $4-7/MB. They state that the smallest terminals are 1kg and "about half the size of a laptop." This won't be a competitor to existing broadband infrastructure, but if the latency is low enough it could provide great short-term connectivity for remote areas. - Tony 07-12-2005 [12/7/05] - Inmarsat has announced the successful launch of its Broadband Global Area Network (BGAN). The company unveiled the new service to the world in a joint press briefing with representatives of its Distribution Partners and manufacturers at its London HQ on December 7. Six years in development, BGAN is the world's first mobile communications service to provide both voice and broadband data simultaneously through a truly portable device on a global basis. It is also the first to offer guaranteed IP data rates on demand. Delivered via the Inmarsat-4 satellites - the world's most advanced commercial communications spacecraft - the service is initially available across Europe, Africa, the Middle East and Asia. Following the successful launch of Inmarsat's second I-4 satellite on November 8, network coverage will be extended to North and South America from Q2, 2006. The two I-4 satellites will deliver seamless broadband coverage across 85 per cent of the world's landmass and be available to 98 per cent of the world's population. "BGAN delivers broadband where other networks can't," said Michael Butler, Inmarsat's chief operating officer. "It enables anyone to set up a broadband mobile office in minutes and remain fully productive - wherever they are on the planet." BGAN offers IP data speeds of up to 492kbps, with the option of guaranteed data rates up to 256kbps. The service is designed for mobile users who want dependable, secure broadband access when working in locations with an unreliable or non-existent telecoms infrastructure. [...] http://about.inmarsat.com/news/00018831.aspx Lift-off for Inmarsat's global broadband By John Walko - EE Times - (12/08/2005 5:42 AM EST) [...] The cost of transferring one megabyte of data from anywhere in the world is put at between $4 to $7, while a voice call is expected to cost under $1 a minute. [...] http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=174906190 AP story: http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=1382023 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] It's been a long road
Gentlemen and ladies, Up her in Ontario Canada, Bell by law puts a "network" charge on "rural" phone accounts which they keep. The purpose of this money is to assist them to expand broadband into rural communities. Now I have supplied broadband to some of this community, but the charges remain. Now that is a good law. :-( Last time I checked the name and address of the person being surveyed was confidential. Purpose of the form should be simply. Do we have enough WISP's of "x" size to warrant putting aside spectrum for Wisp use, you know like tv spectrum was put aside and today is not used. Do Ham operators deliver all their daily dx'ing? So lobby to have the form changed. I knew this was coming, when in the last century, while I was "surfing" with my new 14.4 US Robotics modem, because a US gent asked me, who owned the internet, and he could not grasp the fact that nobody did. I as an ISP own/rent/lease a portal to this Internet. People pay me a small fee to have access to this internet through my portal. period. Why must I be regulated? You know communism must be alive and well, because in a capitalistic society the almighty dollar/euro/pound/buck rules supreme. Time to stop for me because I came to North America for my freedom, you people are showing me another way to restrict people's movements You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Mark Koskenmaki wrote: - Original Message - From: "lists" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] It's been a long road Mark, While I can appreciate the perspective that you are coming from in your desire to not fill out the Form 477, I think you are completely off base. This is an information gathering form, not an invitation to regulation. Government needs information to put together policy. If we can't document that our industry is making some kind of impact on the digital divide and building something of value to the public, then how can we expect to get any more spectrum? This is the closest thing to a census for our industry. The census numbers are used to develop policy, define failure or success and attack or defend positions. When they ask you for your customer's address and IP numbers, what will you do? If you think that changing the name of the kind of service you offer and pretending to be ignorant of the need to fill this form out is going to be the best way for you to proceed, then you might want to consider relocating to Montana. There is a well established community there that doesn't believe in paying taxes, hoards guns and practices all kinds of anti-establishment activities. You can probably get a great deal on T. Kaczynski's cabin out there. If we are going to pick a fight with the administration, lets do it over something meaningful - not a frickin informational form! We as a country used to have spine. I see we're just lemmings. Still, I'm going to avoid that cliff at all costs. You don't consider this "meaningful"? What the bloody heck does it have to be? A nuclear bomb? That would be slightly less attention-getting to me! Matt, there is ONE and precisely ONE reason alone in this whole freaking world YOU, ME, AND EVERY OTHER INDEPDENT WISP EXISTS and that is A LACK OF REGULATION We have no other inherent advantage, and a mountain of disadvantages, that do not outweigh this one absolutely indispensibly important factor... we have freedom to do our thing. We can exist, we can compete, we can outmove, out think, out wit, and out smart our industry competitors, and there is ONE overriding factor.. Our freedom to do business unimpeded. If our message isn't that, from day one, from word one, from point 1, from bullet #1 on the powerpoint, from flyer one, from filing one, from lobbying letter one, we've entirely missed the point. If we lose that, we've lost everything worth fighting for. I don't know what this has to do with cabins in Montana, or the nutcases who try to form thier own country, or whomever you're talking about... I'm talking about THE SINGLE FACTOR that lets me be in business, and you're sounding like you think I'm clueless here... This is self-preservation, and it's about all of us. I didn't realize you people did not think this way. I didn't realize YOU DIDN"T REALIZE IT.I can freaking live without more spectrum, without USF dollars, without more power or higher EIRP limits or a million other regulatory goodies.Not as well, but I can live. I can't live if I don't have that one golden factor - freedom to o
Re: [WISPA] Re: WISPA Board of Directors Vote Confirmation
How can you respect a person who is gullible enough to run for public office :-P You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Rick Harnish wrote: I'll tell ya, no respect, I mean we get no respect! Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 3:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: WISPA Board of Directors Vote Confirmation hehehehehhe - thats about right Cliff! Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. Authorized Barracuda Reseller MikroTik RouterOS Certified www.inetsouth.com www.mac-tel.us www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief) Rayville, La. 318.728.8600 318.303.4227 318.303.4229 Cliff Leboeuf wrote: WISPA Voting System wrote: Thank you for voting in this election. This is your vote confirmation. You voted for the following candidates: Hewey Dewey Lewey Tom Dick Harry This vote was cast at: Tue Feb 07 2006 11:25:44 CSTby a user from this IP address: 68.156.170.45 If you did not cast this vote, please notify <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Thanks for voting! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] e911 anyone?
Mac, Will you be operating in Canada Also?? May be a little cold for you :-P You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Mac Dearman wrote: Matt, West Corporation bought Intrado for 465 million dollars not including expenses. I think that makes Intrado pretty sound and West Corporation is up 24% to $460 million in revenues in their second quarter reports 2006. Who are they? Hell who really cares? They had 460 million CASH - - someone knows them well and does a lot of business with them! You can try to trash anything, but that does not change the truth of what is going on at Intrado, West Communications or their partners. You can schpill a bunch of crap, but that is not going to change the fact that you are not legal in what you are doing if you aren't providing e911 for your VoIP clients. Now, as far as we are concerned - for any and all that want to sell their VoIP solution (or ours) and not worry about having the FCC breathe down their necks - - I am offering a solution that will allow that at a price that will not send them to the bank or wonder how they are going to manage to pay next months bills due to an outrageous expense where there is no ROI. I am doing my best to make it easier on the WISP while you are trying to make them believe that you have the only solution or our solution has serious flaws. I have no doubt that you are a knowledgeable person, but dude - you are not the God of VoIP! Can you ever speak well of what someone else is doing or what the industry has happening? Is it always a terrible thing if you aren't in the middle of it? As far as providing e911 where there is NO 911 services - - well that says it all. That would be like building a 5 star hotel in the ghetto. Nomadic e911 is one method of handling that until the actual 911 build out is accomplished. It does make you legal if you are doing business in a place like that. I don't have a clue as to where that would be, but it is better than a bed pan and two drum sticks. It is a honest effort to accomplish what is not yet possible. I didn't say it was the best - - I said it would get you by to make you legal. I am also unsure what MANUAL administrative processes you are referring too and if you would care to hit me off list with that I will do my darndest to understand. I think the crowd has answered the rest of your email as far as what has kept them out of the VoIP business :-) I will not debate this on list any further as far as the technical goes, but I will say if you need a fine e911 provider and you are a WISPA member - - hit me off list for your discounted price, full service - FCC Certified letter guaranteeing our compliance and I will be happy to reply. Sho nuff, Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] e911 anyone? Mac Dearman wrote: I am at a loss here as they are the Nations largest and even providing for certain Telcos! They have written the book on e911 as well as hold a many patents on the technology. They are the nations largest in terms of e911 management. However, before last year they didn't have a single e911 trunk. They tried to leverage their situation and provide VoIP e911 until they found themselves out of money from the buildout expense. They were bought by an unheard of company back in January. See http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2006/01/intrado-gets-bought.html. Yes - there is. First, where there are no actual 911 addresses or the County/Parish does not have their end set up there is the long/Lat approach that is being used. The right PSAP is still attained and the right address is given. Wrong, the FCC requires the VoIP operator to support e911 regardless of whether it is available. The VoIP operator is not allowed to market services in areas where e911 isn't supported. Well, we are doing much better than that :-) The biggest advantage with us is that once the e911 call is placed it does not travel over SIP trunks or the internet when it hits our NOC as we have dedicated PRIs to handle that traffic and we dump it to that route. This way we are not relying on Level3 in Dallas J but a straight shot to Intrado. Having PRIs doesn't help you with manual administrative processes. Your company is not special; every telecom company has to deal with these issues. You just don't know that you will have to. The e911 price is exactly what's holding the majority back! The majority of the ISPs who want to do VoIP can't handle a $5000.00 set up fee and then a minimum of $300.00 per month starting out with 3 VoIP phone clients! When we talk with other WISPs about VoIP they aren't so much worried
[WISPA] ARIN IP Application
My upstream is trying to obtain a set of ip numbers to use between ourselves, but ARIN is rejecting the application because they feel that we do not require or have use for our own ip numbers. Any tips would be appreciated in assisting to achieve this. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ARIN IP Application
We ourselves, right now need 32. And no, we are not multi-homed. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha David E. Smith wrote: Carl A Jeptha wrote: My upstream is trying to obtain a set of ip numbers to use between ourselves, but ARIN is rejecting the application because they feel that we do not require or have use for our own ip numbers. If you're trying to get the IPs for your network, you should probably apply directly to ARIN, unless you're a very small network indeed. How much IP space are you using now? And are you single-homed or multihomed? David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ARIN IP Application
That is what we need right now. But we need even more to go forward and we need to know we can have it. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha David E. Smith wrote: Carl A Jeptha wrote: We ourselves, right now need 32. And no, we are not multi-homed. 32, as in a total of 32 IP addresses? If that's the case, they shouldn't need to involve ARIN at all. They should just SWIP that little teensy allocation out of their own space to you. (ARIN usually doesn't need to be involved unless you're working with at least a /22 allocation, which is 1024 IPs.) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ARIN IP Application
We, upstream and ourselves, want the capability to use whoever we want (multihomed) for our connection. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Matt Liotta wrote: David E. Smith wrote: (ARIN usually doesn't need to be involved unless you're working with at least a /22 allocation, which is 1024 IPs.) ARIN could be involved if you have a swiped /24 or bigger and want to multi-home. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900 MHz Omni-Directional Antennas PRICE!?
Also check with http://www.superpass.com You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Blair Davis wrote: Well, I'm deploying SR9's with MikroTik next week. Can't beat the RB112's for price. Put them in the Pac-wireless NEMA boxes for clients with yagis and hoping to see the 900 MHz Rootennas soon We will be using RB532A's for our AP's. I'm planning on using Netstream with polling for our setup. Also considering cavity filters on the AP's. After testing, we are going H-pol only on 900 MHz. Better range and lower noise floor... 900 MHz H-pol omnis are $800+!! Waiting on a friend to send me some 900 MHz panels for testing Soon, I hope Looking at a trick to use two 60deg Hpol panels together, but have to wait for them to get here Joshua M. Andrews wrote: Hello all, I’m planning on purchasing some test equipment designed around the SR9 900 MHz equipment. I’m debating between MikroTik and WRAP boards at the moment and have found an outdoor enclosure that should work fine. However, the big question is what antennas to use for both the AP and the CPE. I found some sites that offer 900 MHz Omni’s but the prices are CRAZY! Into the $300 range! As for a client side it seems to be a little more realistic of around $20 up to the hundreds of dollars depending on the type needed. Am I crazy or am I destined to pay about $300 for an Omni-directional antenna!? Also, if anybody has any EXACT configurations they would like to recommend for my first SR9 AP and CPE setup please feel free to post the details of you recommended configurations! Thanks! Sincerely, Joshua M. Andrews www.QCSitter.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.8/455 - Release Date: 9/22/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Symbol Spectrum Software
Looking for the Symbol tech Spectrum analyzer Software. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative
I am having the problems with 6000 5a Tranzeos lately they seem to lockup or now the signal levels have dropped drastically at two locations. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Jason Hensley wrote: I've had great luck too in the past. RMA lead time is way too long though for me - 2-3 weeks to get one repaired and sent back. I do use the routing features, which could be what is causing the lockups. Not sure. Either way, I've been disappointed lately and need to get more reliable gear. I've had great luck with Tranzeo to this point - I'm not sure what has happened, but something has and as a fairly small provider, I can't afford truck rolls due to faulty gear. - Original Message - From: Mark Nash - Lists To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative I've purchased about 70 of the CPQ's, and I haven't seen the kind of trouble you're having. Had to send 1 back because something was rattling inside of it. Tranzeo had one to me in two days (from Canada), cross-shipped, which I didn't have to ask for. I am not using the routing features, just the bridging. For an inexpensive CPE that can reliably go 20 miles, people are really happy that they are so small. I routinely get the question "That's it? That's all it is?" ...referring to the small size of them (even the 19db antennas). I wish they had a telnet or ssh management interface. That's a minus about them. My customer base is rural/residential/small business, so you can evaluate my comments accordingly. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative Trying to evaluate all of my options here, and thought I would see what other CPE are out there that are comparable to Tranzeo CPQ units (802.11b, built-in router, etc). Want to stay within that price range, but DON'T want to build a unit myself. Not that I'm not happy with the CPQ's, but I've had a run of bad ones (to the tune of 1 in almost every 10 pack I get in here) and just not sure what's going on. I just got word of a price increase on the CPE units also (not the CPQ's though). I'd also like to get something a little smaller in physical size than the Tranzeo's. Not that they are bad, but would be nice if they weren't quite such an eyesore. Again, that's not a huge issue though. Anyway, just thought I'd throw this out. I've considered Canopy, but of course, that's an entire network change. Just not sure if I want to do that, and not sure if it would be as financially economical as Tranzeo in the long run. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/471 - Release Date: 10/10/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Customer side monitoring software
We have Pipteen that has been customized for us. Put in numbers with names and exe. for certain things and they can call in and do certain things under the tech support instructions. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Gino A. Villarini wrote: Hey guys, We are looking for a simple, user friendly monitoring software to install in our customers computer and would tell them if the internet is up, down , if default gateway is up or down , ect simple stuff that would help out tech support people troubleshoot over the phone. Sometimes is painfull and time consuming to get a customer to the c:/ prompt and ping stuff Once I saw a software like thet feom AOL ... Any ideas? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/472 - Release Date: 11/10/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results
If this snow disappears tomorrow I will be loading up the Tranzeo 900 with a Superpass omni. and I have the other two integrated radios to test with, 8 and 11db. Will let you know. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha KyWiFi LLC wrote: Thank you for sharing this information with the list Joe, I appreciate it and I'm sure others do too! Please let us know if you decide to play with 900Mhz using an omni instead of a sector as I would be interested in hearing the range that is possible with an omni compared to a sector. I have my eye on the PacWireless OD9-11 (http://tinyurl.com/vq7dj). TGIF. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Joe Laura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results Well, I finally got time to hang the 900 A/P tonight. MT with SR9 on a 532a. Client is a Rb112. Superpass 10dbi sector and a 10dbi panel for the client. While its not the golden bullet sorta speak I am very impressed with it. What better place to test than City Park. Its full of old tall oaks. From about two miles out I was seeing -75 signal and easily squeezing 2 megs up and down. I always see a lower upload on other gear but the 900 down and up always seemed to be almost the same. I have had many calls from a subdivision that was flooded from the storm and they still do not have bell or cable in there. I tried doing two houses in that subdivision without any luck with 2.4. Its loaded with trees. Well from my truck at these two locations I had no problem seeing a -72 signal. As I got a little closer to the pop maybe 1 mile I was seeing a -70 with still quite a few trees in the way and I was seeing four megs up and down This is where it seemed to peak out at. Like someone said its another tool in the tool box. Its just what I needed because while 2.4 will burn through some trees the 900m shots will do so much better. Superior Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Superpass
He will ship to you Directly, email/phone him. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Blair Davis wrote: Anyone know where I can buy SuperPass antennas near the mid-west?? Looking for a 60deg 900MHz H-pol. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam
Anybody been able to block the stockmarket spam??? My Merak with Spamassassin is loosing the battle. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam
Ok spill the beans about the ocr, don't let me get to you to beat it out of you. (OOOPPPS did I say that out loud ) :-[ Please give more info as this is the means of doing spam now. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: Just use spamAssassin with an OCR plugin it does wonders :) On 10/17/06, rwf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Marlon- We use ASSP. It works great, but it fails a bit at the stock spam that has been coming out lately. It is almost entirely a graphic with no readable text. I figure that the 300+ it kills from just my business and personal Email accounts is justification for deleting 1-2 graphical ones a day. How does postini filter the graphical spam? Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam our postini is doing a pretty good job. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Re: Fwd: Tonight: Join SavetheInternet.com on PBS
Gentlemen and Ladies of USA, You have a problem, that if you do not defend "Net Neutrality" no Nuclear device and no matter how big will protect you or I from what can and will happen. Believe it or not right now the rest of the world's democracy rest's in your hands. When Democracy is owned by a Corporation and not by the people (notice the word "owned") we will have trouble. I remember, years ago when a US citizen wanted to know who he to pay for the internet, because he believed that someone had to own it. I gave up after 5mins on dialup (14400 modem) to try and tell him that no one controlled the internet. You US WISP's will have to stop the assault, because I know that in Canada they will only rubber stamp the FCC. I feel sorry for you but the fight is now with you, because it is all quiet in the rest of the world, but I can guarantee you that if you loose the rest will follow suit, and quote " the USA did it, it must be the right thing to do" (meanwhile, everyone curses the Americans, until it will line their pockets, then the Americans are doing the right thing). Mr Upton should be led to the wall with a blindfold and shot for treason. End of Rant. Time for another beer before I fall asleep. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha John Scrivner wrote: Hello Alex. I am sorry you have had trouble posting to our list. Please send the error you receive when you try to post to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will get it fixed. I am copying the list with your information. Sincerely, John Scrivner Alex Huppenthal wrote: John, Since I my posts to the general list never make it, perhaps you'd like to post this. An important event. Hope all is well with you. Cheers, -Alex Begin forwarded message: *From: *"Timothy Karr, FreePress.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> *Date: *October 18, 2006 6:22:57 PM PDT *To: *"Alex Huppenthal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> *Subject: **Tonight: Join SavetheInternet.com on PBS* *Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SavetheInternet.com banner <http://www.savetheinternt.com/> Dear Alex, Bill Moyers <http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog> Tonight at 9: Watch "The Net at Risk" <http://action.freepress.net/ct/K7xJ_ZM1wPKJ/> On the Web: Join the Debate at PBS.org <http://action.freepress.net/ct/K7xJ_ZM1wPKJ/> Tune in to PBS tonight to see the SavetheInternet.com <http://action.freepress.net/ct/Z1xJ_ZM1wPKK/>Coalition featured in "The Net at Risk," a documentary produced by award-winning journalist Bill Moyers. Then join other SavetheInternet.com members in an online Web discussion at PBS.org. Bill Moyers' show airs at 9 p.m. in most cities (check local listings <http://action.freepress.net/ct/KpxJ_ZM1wPKD/>). Immediately following the East Coast broadcast, PBS.org will host a live Internet debate between Free Press Policy Director Ben Scott and phone industry flack Mike McCurry. You can be a part of this online debate. Here's how to join in: *When:* Oct. 18, 10:30 pm Eastern / 7:30 pm Pacific *Where: *http://www.pbs.org/moyers You'll be asked to log in to participate in the online discussion. With your help, we hope to light up the PBS Web site with our campaign to save Net Neutrality. It's important to have you there. In the six months since the SavetheInternet.com Coalition was launched, millions of Americans have joined the campaign, spoken out for Internet freedom, and put Congress and the phone companies on notice. Tonight's program could make millions more aware of this issue. They need to hear the real voices of people like you instead of industry mouthpieces. Help us use the Internet to save it from corporate efforts to stifle online innovation, free speech and competition. Please join us tonight! Timothy Karr Campaign Director Free Press and SavetheInternet.com www.savetheinternet.com <http://action.freepress.net/ct/Z1xJ_ZM1wPKK/> 1. For the latest information on the campaign visit www.SavetheInternet.com <http://action.freepress.net/ct/Z1xJ_ZM1wPKK/> 2. Don't miss Bill Moyers' new essay on Net Neutrality: "Against an Imperial Internet <http://action.freepress.net/ct/K1xJ_ZM1wPKF/>" Visit the web address below to tell your friends about this. Tell-a-friend! <http://action.freepress.net/freepress/join-forward.html?domain=freepress&r=g7xJ_ZM1-Bw-&;> If you received this message from a friend, you can sign up for Free Press <http://action.freepress.net/freepress/join.html?r=g7xJ_ZM1-Bw-E&;>. This message w
Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam
ok so you will live another day without getting beaten up :-P Thank you will investigate, have website up,. what DNSRBL list is recommended (I have read about Spamhaus) Thank you again Mr Niemandtsverdriet (Translation - No ones Sorrow) Nice Last name. :-D Yes I do speak another language - Afrikaans You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: If you have spamassassin setup and running you can just add the rules shown on the spamassassin wiki. You need to have imagemagick and gocr but they are really easy to install. See the wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/OcrPlugin On 10/18/06, Carl A Jeptha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok spill the beans about the ocr, don't let me get to you to beat it out of you. (OOOPPPS did I say that out loud ) :-[ Please give more info as this is the means of doing spam now. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: > Just use spamAssassin with an OCR plugin it does wonders :) > > On 10/17/06, rwf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi Marlon- >> >> We use ASSP. It works great, but it fails a bit at the stock spam >> that has >> been coming out lately. It is almost entirely a graphic with no readable >> text. >> I figure that the 300+ it kills from just my business and personal Email >> accounts is justification for deleting 1-2 graphical ones a day. >> >> How does postini filter the graphical spam? >> >> Ralph >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 >> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:36 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam >> >> our postini is doing a pretty good job. >> >> >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
