be wrong here, or just showing my age, but I recall standards in
1999 saying that underscores were forbidden in class and id names. I
suspect things have changed, but at the time Netscape was the only
browser that treated underscored names as invalid. See what happens if
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size. The arrogance vs. idealist portion of the discussion. So I'm
building something to measure the default size of things. Anyone know
of someone else that has already done this? I'd hate to duplicate
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This has been an interesting, if heated, thread. I think a large part
of it revolves around being unable to measure people's default font
size. The arrogance vs. idealist portion of the discussion. So
I'm building something to measure the default size of things
that they can put on
their clients' pages without impact (if designers put the sensor on
their own pages, they'll be measuring other designers' default sizes!).
Gimme a couple weeks and I'll see what I can do.
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the script tag will ignore
everything between the comments.
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on this technique's merits (or lack thereof) would be
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I've heard of gathering info for contact databases, but that has to be
the worst implementation i've ever seen. What does that company do?
Apparently, they gather info for contact databases.
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and not the items.
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it be clickable if you simply gave foo and bar a height and width with
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. I haven't come up
with a cross-browser technique that combines the compatibility of the
first with the second technique's ability to download just the image
you need.
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can't get the footer hr to display the same in Win IE as other
browsers
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to send
.html file to ColdFusion than to change all the extensions and links.
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considering ordered lists nested within an ordered list? Is
there a relationship between items at the same depth but of different
lists? Consider instead using a table and represent this meaning as
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the common practices used to fix
rendering in their previous browsers, and work with those practices.
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, or will
recognize the hacks for IE6.
And maybe they never thought of that and they answer yes, in which
case the question just saved you a bunch of work, no?
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margin:1.25em !important;
padding:0.25em !important;
}
div[class]:before {
content: class= attr(class);
color:#900;
font-weight:bold;
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div[id]:after {
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from under some deadlines, I'll write
this technique up and give it to the community.
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, sans-serif; }
* { font-size:1em; }
input, select, textarea { font-size:1.18em; }
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/* - /STANDARDIZE DEFAULTS - */
Then in my Win IE hacksheet:
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before I spend all that time I was wondering if this is a known issue
that I just couldn't find the right search terms for?
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h2a name= id=/aSome heading/h2
Or drop the anchor tag altogether. What is the browser compatibility of
this:
a href=#someIdOnThePageGo to Some ID/a
...
h2 id=someIdOnThePageSome ID/h2
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page.
It will be problematic, however, when you combine templates, CMSs, and
webservices-sourced XML all in one document. This is where we are
rescued by namespaces and the increasingly common habit of giving IDs
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opting to position:absolute;, since it would be absolute in relation
to the immediate parentNode.
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Such a selector would beat the pants off MS conditional comments.
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Safari/Konquerer supports -khtml-opacity:#.#; in the same way.
Behold the march of progress!
It appears that Safari now supports the standard opacity:#.#; call,
even though it is not listed here:
http://developer.apple.com/internet/safari
: transparent url(vert-line.gif) 0 0
repeat-y; }
div.active { background: transparent url(arrow-thing.gif) 0 0
no-repeat; }
div.active div { background:none; }
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instead of DOCUMENT_NODE or 9?
Give us your demo page URL. Likely, you are alerting these values
before they exist. The DOM attributes don't exist for nodes that have
not been parsed yet. Are you triggering this onload, or in the head of
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relationship of the destination document to the origin document. Class
is a style, and not a relationship. But honestly, 6 of one, half dozen
of the other.
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this text:
Hello, Bob.
...and not this:
Hello,
Bob.
Thus, your doctype is on the same line as your prologue, and your
prologue it on the second line when it must be on the first. Hope that
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agree) I've found best articulated here:
http://mpt.kiwiwebhost.net/archive/2004/05/02/b-and-i
http://mpt.kiwiwebhost.net/archive/2004/05/09/semantic
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back through the CSS and remove those
!important declarations that you don't need.
That said, you might have better luck using the IE runtimeStyle
object instead for that browser.
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of a stanza,
then you self-close the quote; the next quote will be an open-quote at
the beginning of the next stanza, anyway.
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content -- in fact, the Flash pulls its content from the HTML). I
figured this was fairly foolproof, but I'm not 100% certain.
Any comments on the general theory? (The particular implementation,
actually, leaves something to be desired...)
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not positioned statically (i.e., absolute,
relative, or fixed), but some browsers mess up the fixed thing, and
Opera seems to get confused when things get floated.
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/* rules */
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This shows some of the folly of using hacks for browsers currently
under development.
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styles off with a keystroke, IMO. The Tools menu
also trains them to validate, validate, validate.
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dl class=postalAddress
dtCanada/dt
dd class=companyIn The Game, Inc./dd
dd class=divisionCustomer Service/dd
dd class=street1135 West Beaver Creek Road Box
where we stand.
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-compatible
we can extend the life of the document indefinitely.
And that's all I have to say about that.
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and becomes an accessibility guru and makes a mint. Or keeps
mum, tells everyone he's doing it by hand, charges by the hour (38 of
them yesterday alone), and makes a mint.
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is not blanked out via the submission
process. There likely will develop a better way to handle it though,
since the Javascript needed to handle the form is so much easier than
the stuff for such an application.
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footnotes, and may try to standardize on this.
http://www.stuffandnonsense.co.uk/archives/accessibility_footnotes.html
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recognize this, but does give you access to the
.currentStyle object -- gives you teh same thing but you need to
camel-case the property string:
el.currentStyle.backgroundColor
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to your circumstance.
I'm not sure about IE, but Safari does this to indicate which fields
were filled in by the auto-fill and which the user had modified.
Without this distinction, the users may submit more incomplete or
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that port my
code are going to know XSLT -- so I'm writing XHTML today for them,
not for me. Also, I expect the odd errors that creep into XHTML are
easier to clean than the odd errors and coding variances that crop up
in HTML.
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in your IDs or class names.
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accessed via the DOM), and so using
compound words can result in particularly difficult bugs to find
(e.g., what that backGroundDIV or BackGroundDiv or backgroundDiv
or...?). Best to avoid compound words, I think (e.g., replace with
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are you using that your Bad Browsers can't handle?
- does the site owner agree that this is worth doubling the
development costs?
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on each other's toes. I see the three languages just starting to
learn the steps of a very cool dance.
Feel free to contact me off-list, if you wish to chat more.
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IDs can be radically shifted.
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the code to measure the browser window size: average was now about
800x700, with the big-screen people using a narrow window. Just the
same as everyone else.
Nothing beats your own stats. But don't use stats as an excuse to
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external sites to open in new windows, then you're golden. Your rel
is meaningful and your behavior is attached to the meaning of the
markup.
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expressions.
Instead of my recommendation of:
a[i].getAttribute('href').toUpperCase().indexOf(HTTP://) == 0
...I now recommend:
/^https?:\/\//i.test(a[i].getAttribute('href'))
(tested only in Firefox, Safari; pretty sure it's good but I'm not
familiar with IE regexp quirks)
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Good catch. Now we're talking a good excuse for regular expressions.
Instead of my recommendation of:
a[i].getAttribute('href').toUpperCase().indexOf(HTTP://) == 0
...I now recommend
such that *everything* is a node, and HTML would be a special
case that ignores whitespace.
Enough special cases, and the standard ain't so standard. So I think
we need to keep coding with tests for Nodetype.
1. http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-2-Core/core.html
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Then style the class as you see fit.
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, or if they are indeed deprecated but not listed
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you even see how it does without the hack.
Your best (only?) bet is the conditional comment option.
Remember: Only hack the dead.
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That's a very curious thing for the W3C to publish. I am not
aware of any HTML standard in which b and i are deprecated. Can
anyone cite such a declaration?
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enclose all of the floating children. Since the width is 100%, it has
no other effect.)
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DTDs less strict (as in rigidly
applied), they just include more options. What you are proposing is
that the Strict DTD should not include b and i; it's a valid
argument, but it does not reflect the approved Recommendation of the
W3C.
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the Sunday is related to, and so
tabular data it has become.
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A brilliant idea. Always up for a cool pint. Lemme finish breakfast
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, and CSS allows for :hover. But the key here is that
behavior should be scripted; even if you could do it in CSS, that's
not the proper place for it and will cause many headaches down the
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or js equivalent
with unnamed window, e.g., window.open(this.href,'',winOptions);)
Anything else, and the behavior depends on the context the link is
in, possibly meaning that your icons or title text are giving wrong
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1- link replaces current document (no target or js new window)
2- link always opens new window (target=_blank or js equivalent
with unnamed window, e.g., window.open(this.href,'',winOptions);)
I agree, the opener
can't have their opacity changed separately from the
foreground (until CSS3, but that's only with colors in rgba format, I
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by you, because you all agreed on
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Hi,
Where is this summary, Microformated?
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Ted Drake just wrote up a summary of the previous opening a new
window conversation, so I'd like to grab a sample from what he was
doing -- after all
...
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#submit-button
...successful form elements have their values submitted paired to
their names...
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#successful-
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I'm also unlikely to give up my habit of trying to slim things down
to the final ounce possible. It's too fun. :)
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it is a Good Thing(tm).
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on billboards and ads
everywhere. That's faster adoption than the DVD had at about the same
time.
Making browsers forgiving is part of the core ideology of the Web. I
wouldn't discard it so casually.
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in the css.
One way to tell if an image is content is to ask yourself these two
questions:
- With images off, would the user miss it? (yes = it's content)
- Will this change if we redesign? (yes = presentation)
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, although I think the statement is wrong, I don't know
enough of the right stuff to argue. Anyone? Anyone? Beuller?
More, from The Great Google: http://tinyurl.com/cr44n
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{ font-size:0.875em; }
div.content h2 { font-size:2em; }
...you will need to use this:
body { font-size:1.75em; }
div.content h2 { font-size:1em; }
div.content p { font-size:0.5em; }
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is
interested, I suppose it still has a place in project where scripting
is a requirement. Let me know if you use it.
http://www.bivia.com/sandbox/css_cc_4ie/conditional_comment_test.html
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to code first
for standards, and send IE a corrective stylesheet, and b) you need
to markup the content to support it.
The only unavoidable downside I see is that it encourages bad browser
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main sheet clean.
It's a good thing because it's valid, and the browser is dead so it
won't change its interpretation of it, and it's a parsing bug that is
unlikely to crop up in other, newer browsers.
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you invoke
would only be as tall as the tallest non-absolutely-positioned
element it contains. Then your footer would be positioned at the
bottom of that, with the absolutely positioned elements flowing over
(or under) it.
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Ben Curtis : webwright
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