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JMJM, I did not expect you to be so pessimistic. Anthony --- On Sun, 15/8/10, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 wrote: > From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 > Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? > To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sunday, 15 Augus

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Anthony; >   > You didn't answer the > question.  You limited the question tje skin of > people.  You gave a mental image that you > imagined. This is again a job of the ego or the self. I > repeat the question::  Which is better black or > white? > Mayka  > > --

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An email to a listserv from an airport. Thanks, Chris Austin-Lane Sent from a cell phone On Aug 15, 2010, at 10:17 AM, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 wrote: > > > Is life itself meaningful? ;-) > > On 8/15/2010 5:48 AM, ED wrote: >> >> >> The question, as it stands, is meaningless. --ED >>

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Is life itself meaningful? ;-) On 8/15/2010 5:48 AM, ED wrote: The question, as it stands, is meaningless. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez wrote: > > Anthony; > > You didn't answer the question. You limited the question tje skin of people. You gave a mental image t

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ED;   ...And yet we do it all the time every time we make comparations.   Mayka --- On Sun, 15/8/10, ED wrote: From: ED Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, 15 August, 2010, 13:48   The question, as it stands, is meaningless.  --ED   -

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The question, as it stands, is meaningless. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez wrote: > > Anthony; > > You didn't answer the question. You limited the question tje skin of people. You gave a mental image that you imagined. This is again a job of the ego or the self. I rep

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From: Anthony Wu Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, 15 August, 2010, 0:22   Mayka,   If white represents Jesus, Buddha, saints, Messiah, heroes and other unselfish persons, and black represents Satan, Mara, devils, looters and rapists, then

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rules. Escapism or nihilism does not work fine.   Anthony --- On Sun, 15/8/10, Maria Lopez wrote: From: Maria Lopez Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, 15 August, 2010, 5:57 AM   Anthony:   Which is better black or white?   Mayka --- On Sa

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Anthony:   Which is better black or white?   Mayka --- On Sat, 14/8/10, Anthony Wu wrote: From: Anthony Wu Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 14 August, 2010, 22:24   Mayka, How can you avoid making comparisons? When Jesus and Satan a

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Mayka, How can you avoid making comparisons? When Jesus and Satan appear at the same time, what do you choose? Anthony 2--- On Sat, 14/8/10, Maria Lopez wrote: > From: Maria Lopez > Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? > To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com > Date: Saturday, 14 Augu

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Making comparations Anthony?.  This is also a job the ego does to one.  And  what do you think is that?.   Mayka   --- On Sat, 14/8/10, Anthony Wu wrote: From: Anthony Wu Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 14 August, 2010, 0:10  

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time to stop and get carried away by the emotion.   Mayka     --- On Fri, 13/8/10, ED wrote: From: ED Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 13 August, 2010, 15:35     Mayka, depending on which Buddhist path: Hinayana, Mahayana, Vajrayana, Maham

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To me, what Bill is saying here is exactly what is meant by the saying, "You can have your emotions, or your emotions can have you." Having (or feeling) emotions is not the same as acting on them - or acting on them in a thoughtless way. They are just part of being - not all of being. Artie

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ormed into something positive through performing a sex ritual. I have no comment on that, but I will treat it as an amusing event, though I can imagine how the girl is hurt.   Anthony --- On Fri, 13/8/10, ED wrote: From: ED Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Fr

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Mayka, depending on which Buddhist path: Hinayana, Mahayana, Vajrayana, Mahamudra, Dzogchen, etc. that one is traversing, emotions are dealt with differently. --ED http://viewonbuddhism.org/tantra_practice.html "This also illustrates one o

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ED;   Strange, I thought that to be a realization of the Buddha too. Oh well suit yourself. Mayka       --- On Tue, 10/8/10, ED wrote: From: ED Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 10 August, 2010, 16:42     Mayka, That's *your* tr

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Mayka, That's *your* truth, and I neither assert nor deny its truth - for yourself. Persons may in due course realize the wisdom of your understandings - or they may not. Thank you for sharing. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez wrote: > > ED: > > Doing the right thing, do

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full each second of our life in mindfulness.   Easy to say not as easy to be carried out.  Tell me about it!!!   Mayka     --- On Mon, 9/8/10, ED wrote: From: ED Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 9 August, 2010, 15:38     Hi Mayka, My

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Hi Mayka, My point was: There are almost as many points of view on these issues as there are humans. To most humans, what the "right" thing to do, for themselves, is *not* a puzzlement. Those, like Anthony, who appear to be confused, could seek a source whom they can trust to guide them. --

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wrote: From: roloro1557 Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 9 August, 2010, 10:31   Well. . . "Practice" is not the same for everyone. Not everything that's in us is nonsense, and some of us have managed to clean out some o

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Well. . . "Practice" is not the same for everyone. Not everything that's in us is nonsense, and some of us have managed to clean out some of the nonsense. And punching the pillow and reading are not necessarily running away for some of us. . . . . Assumptions, judgements, and concepts! Art

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Bill,   Of course no problems with equinimity. I am comparing it with emotions. You seem to say both are OK.   anthony --- On Mon, 9/8/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote: From: billsm...@hhs1963.org Subject: RE: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 9 August, 20

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at is really in us without running away to punch the pillow or reading and reading and more reading   Mayka   --- On Sat, 7/8/10, ED wrote: From: ED Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 7 August, 2010, 19:45   http://www.thebuddh a

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Subject: RE: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, 8 August, 2010, 8:18 AM   Anthony,   I do indeed sometimes succumb to illusions, but I did not emphasize the items highlighted in red below.  However, maybe I should have because that was an impo

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1963.org wrote: From: billsm...@hhs1963.org Subject: RE: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, 8 August, 2010, 8:18 AM   Anthony,   I do not believe Buddha taught ‘doing away with’ emotions, or rejecting anything else that is real.   …Bill!   From: zen_fo

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Bill;   I can read now your posting. .   Cheerful.  I particularly like the poem you copy on it.  Thank you.   Mayka --- On Sat, 7/8/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote: From: billsm...@hhs1963.org Subject: RE: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 7 August,

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Anthony- Yes, that is what I'm saying exactly. I think it is impossible and unwholesome to suppress anger and our other emotions too. And yes, I do think it's better to vent anger on a neutral object, like a stone. (NEVER a dog or cat or living being.) My understanding is that Bill! is correc

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: [Zen] Where's Mayka? Bill: What post are you referring to?. Can you repost it again above this one?. I'm always very interested in your sayings. Thanks! Mayka --- On Sat, 7/8/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote: From: billsm...@hhs1963.org Subject: RE: [Zen] Where&#

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be (I should have said ‘are probably’) maya, but emotions are not maya – they are real. …Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Wu Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 4:28 AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Zen] Where's

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: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? Artie, I believe you are saying that it is impossible or unwholesome to 'suppress' anger. It must be 'vented' one way or the other. Instead of harming others, the better way to vent it is targeting a neutral object (hope it is not a do

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e'. I want Ladders, not Snakes.   Anthony --- On Sun, 8/8/10, ED wrote: From: ED Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, 8 August, 2010, 2:45 AM   http://www.thebuddh adharma.com/ issues/2008/ summer/forum. php Forum: How to Work wit

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ddha to do away with emotions. Or is there such a buddha?   Anthony --- On Sat, 7/8/10, roloro1557 wrote: From: roloro1557 Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 7 August, 2010, 7:52 PM   Mayka- Well, my understanding and experience is that one

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Bill,   I am led to believe, based on your highlighted words that something in you succumbs to Maya.   Anthony --- On Sat, 7/8/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote: From: billsm...@hhs1963.org Subject: RE: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 7 August, 2010, 6:

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http://www.thebuddhadharma.com/issues/2008/summer/forum.php Forum: How to Work with Emotions From: Buddhadharma, The Practitioner's Quarterly --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez wrote: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/

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n the tablet of pain.  But by no meanings, only you do know what is the best for you.  My saying here is within the zen practice.   Mayka --- On Sat, 7/8/10, roloro1557 wrote: From: roloro1557 Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 7 August, 2010,

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Mayka- Well, my understanding and experience is that one of the ways difficulties with emotions come is when one tries to artificially hold them in or control them. That is, emotions are natural responses, part of being human. Also that difficulties with emotions may come when one expresses the

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nd Bill.      Thanks Mayka       --- On Sat, 7/8/10, Maria Lopez wrote: From: Maria Lopez Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 7 August, 2010, 12:00   Artie:   We seem to be both alike here!.    Solidarity and big smile from Mayka  

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Aw :-) BIG SMILE and solidarity to you too Mayka! :-) Artie --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez wrote: > > Artie: > > We seem to be both alike here!.  > > Solidarity and big smile from > Mayka > = FROM: Over the hills and far away. . . The way t

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Bill:   What post are you referring to?.  Can you repost it again above this one?.  I'm always very interested in your sayings.  Thanks!   Mayka --- On Sat, 7/8/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote: From: billsm...@hhs1963.org Subject: RE: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroup

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Artie:   We seem to be both alike here!.    Solidarity and big smile from Mayka   --- On Sat, 7/8/10, roloro1557 wrote: From: roloro1557 Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 7 August, 2010, 11:40   I have always thought the zen w

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I have always thought the zen way to experience emotions is to experience them FULLY and COMPLETELY. That is - when you have joy, soar with it, feel it into your bones, BE joy. And the same with all other emotions - yes, even the 'unpleasant' ones. If one is mourning, then mourn fully, cry, wail

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: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Zen] Where's Mayka? Hey Bill; I'd like to introduce myself to you as the "Expertise of Emotions", heheNot everything was going to be on oneself detriment about being a highly emotional person. Thought, I do keep and pr

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…Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of billsm...@hhs1963.org Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 10:39 AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Zen] Where's Mayka? Anthony, ‘Disagreeing’ in not an emotion. If I’d said,

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wer in me and others or on the contrary grow all what is destructive.  I have a choice.  Emotions give me that choice.  They are all in me, in you and everyone else.  A bow to emotions!   Mayka     --- On Sat, 7/8/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote: From: billsm...@hhs1963.org Subject: RE: [Zen

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ake the way of emotions are handled in zen. Mayka       --- On Sat, 7/8/10, Anthony Wu wrote: From: Anthony Wu Subject: RE: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 7 August, 2010, 1:22   Bill,   It is premature and 'emotional' for you to disagree. If

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@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Wu Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 7:23 AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Zen] Where's Mayka? Bill, It is premature and 'emotional' for you to disagree. If you don't 'hug'

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. Doesn't this conform to your 'system'?   Anthony --- On Fri, 6/8/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote: From: billsm...@hhs1963.org Subject: RE: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 6 August, 2010, 6:49 PM   Anthony,   I disagree.  What

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Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 4:49 AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Zen] Where's Mayka? Bill, I think zen views emotions arising just like watching a movie as a bystander. You don't hug them. Still, they are harmful. Otherwise, the zen way would be different.

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    I did met TNH personally and he officially initiated me in the practice with many other students.       --- On Thu, 5/8/10, Anthony Wu wrote: From: Anthony Wu Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 5 August, 2010, 22:59   Mayka

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first before anything serious. In this case, Sakymuni is a good example. He allowed people to have doubts on him.   Anthony --- On Thu, 5/8/10, Maria Lopez wrote: From: Maria Lopez Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 5 August, 201

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@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Zen_ fo...@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Wu Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 4:35 AM To: zen_fo...@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka?     Mayka,   I am very glad you came back. As regards the difference you talk about between C

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t to life.    Mayka     --- On Thu, 5/8/10, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 wrote: From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 5 August, 2010, 3:07   Dear Mayka, How are you?  I am concerned. Are you are seeking outward

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, 5/8/10, Maria Lopez //* wrote: From: Maria Lopez Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 5 August, 2010, 0:14 /Anthony;/ // /I had just had an immaginary Teacher for many years. He wasn't real. He wa

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, August 05, 2010 4:35 AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? Mayka, I am very glad you came back. As regards the difference you talk about between Christianity and Buddhism, I agree to some extent. The former is more emotional, more intending to

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: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? Anthony; I had just had an immaginary Teacher for many years. He wasn't real. He was never present, or available, or guiding. correcting...he was just a tape, video, dvd, book...I currently see him more a kind o

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Thu, 5/8/10, Maria Lopez wrote: From: Maria Lopez Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 5 August, 2010, 0:14   Anthony;   I had just had an immaginary Teacher for many years.  He wasn't real.  He was never present, or available, or g

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Mayka     --- On Wed, 4/8/10, Anthony Wu wrote: From: Anthony Wu Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 4 August, 2010, 22:35   Mayka,   I am very glad you came back. As regards the difference you talk about between Christianity and B

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think it is too premature for you to give up on TNH, who is a wonderful personality.   Anthony --- On Thu, 5/8/10, Maria Lopez wrote: From: Maria Lopez Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 5 August, 2010, 12:13 AM   Hi Mike, Anthony... an

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m!.  They may be all in maxim red alert urgent need of oxygeno for themselves!.   Thank you Mayka   --- On Sun, 1/8/10, Anthony Wu wrote: From: Anthony Wu Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, 1 August, 2010, 23:01   Mike,   Zen is

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Mike,   Zen is everyday life, so it is a project, a hobby and everything you can think about.   Yes, I miss Mayka too.   Anthony --- On Sun, 1/8/10, mike brown wrote: From: mike brown Subject: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, 1 August, 2010, 9:48 AM