I'm here to piss in the dirt
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Inside/outside the mind is not zen. Zen/not zen is not zen.
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wrote:
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> Bill,
> Â
> I am not familiar with the 'Kingdom of Heaven', but it sounds like something
> outside your mind, so it is not zen. It is dualism.
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Go take a piss in the dirt and find out for yourself. Just make sure to piss
in the dirt while you are pissing in the dirt.
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Mel wrote:
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> ...and that is suppose to teach...what?...
> Â
> in Buddha's grace
> Mel
>
> --- On Wed
If you have hands, don't bother washing them in the shower.
Variety is not the spice of life. Paranoia is the spice of life.
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Notions & emotions like the ocean's tides emerge & cover & trail back to their
source‚ a restlessness with worms for nerves‚ all sprawling in reactionary chaos
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--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Mel wrote:
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> That's what I like about Zen, but you still haven't taught anything here.
> However, I'll view some more of your postings. The Zen Buddhist monks I've
> come across face-to-face tend to be quite direct and straightforward, but
> without any gra
HA!!!
thanks
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill!" wrote:
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> Pandabananasock:
>
> Parts of your post below reminded me of one of my favorite short stories. I
> read it many, many years ago and can't give you the title or author but the
> story line is
This is passage 25 of chapter 10 of the Corpus Hermeticum. Some may find the
language to be grainy, but take it in connotation [(what's the difference from
anything else, right?)] Zero, One, primes, composites, but only "here"
(mind-world) do all exist, if only separated by time. A statement o
[mailto:Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of pandabananasock
> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 4:31 AM
> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Zen] Dear Bill
>
>
>
> I hope you have not forgotten to dig up that material you have been
> working on regarding time/cause&e
HA! My ears already ringing from themselves the sound of enlightenment,
listening to them, why should I say anything at all?
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> "pandabananasock" wrote:
> >
> >
> > HA! My ears already ringing from themselves the
> sound of enlightenment, listening to them, why should I say
> anything at all?
> >
>
>
>
>
> --
"
, but
!"
The best guide for meditation is one's own breathing
There's been a lot of hair-splitting on the forum. Noisy.
When it comes to contemplation, doubt is clarity.
When it comes to practice, sit, breathe, be.
... hell, laugh! We should all be laughing hysterically!! We're all done!!!
Imagine how silly a person would look if they were in a dark room
Time and place aside, the key is to meditate while breathing, not to breathe
while meditating. The only exception is when it's the other way around.
Good times!
--- On Mon, 8/6/12, Joe wrote:
> From: Joe
> Subject: [Zen] Re: Guided Meditation with Joseph Goldstein - YouTube
> To: Zen_Forum@
but what problem? Both: nobody to be saved, and nothing to save them from.
Samsara and not-samsara. Only "Is-ness", without the "Is", or the "ness", and
without the "without". No enlightenment, nobody to be enlightened. SPLABBERT!
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y are *trying* to fool you. To play the game, it's better to
> pitch in, than to make pronouncements. As you've pitched-in here! TNX, and
> howdy. --J.
>
> > "pandabananasock" wrote:
> >
> > but what problem? Both: nobody to be saved, and nothing
ty".
>
> For no good reason. I thought it was funny to think of an animal with
> handedness. He doesn't seem to mind, but neither does he answer to the new
> name. Just as well, the name might just last the day, only. Tomorrow's
> another day, they say!
>
>
uff that I never thought of before. Now that I see that there is
really
something to it, I think it's awesome.
Love,
PandaBananaSock
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--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "dhammastudents" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Anti-aging or reverse unhealthy cells with Nano technology to create
> zero energy or also known as scalar energy .
>
> Zazen will do this for you. You can live 200 years.
>
200 years, huh? That's more than enough
Okay, this might be a moderately long post, but keep faith that I will relate
it to zen
practice by the end. That being said:
Sleep paralysis (hereinafter referred to as "SP") is something I experience
occasionally.
Anyone else get this? About five times annually since the teenage years,
w
wrote:
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Dear pandabananasock,
This is a very rare subject to be discussed in an
online forum, becauseeach school teaches differently
and teachings beyond everyday lives areeither not
addressed or lost in the linage. Often these
discussionscould be categorized as samsara or even
witc
--- Bill Smart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Panda-Banana-Sock,
>
> I do not believe this is any kind of 'demon
> possession' or 'witchcraft'. I
> think things like that are just tags we put on
> things we don't understand,
> but want to.
My cat may understand my vacuum cleaner in similar
term
Does anyone know of any sanghas in the Baltimore area?! Either I'm a terrible
googler, or I
live in the armpit of the enlightened world. The only places I have found
calling themselves
"Buddhist" turn out to be culty, and no place I found calls themselves "Zen
Buddhist"
I hope someone caugh
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "diablodrakul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> It seems like a lot of the American zen roshis are either openly gay or
> lesbians. What's that all about?
I'm curious; how many American zen roshis have you observed to be openly gay?
How many
non-American zen ros
That's why YOU are the moderator, right? I always
thought stirring up angry flaming monks is what you
did best!!
--- Al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Angry flaming monks where definitely entertaining
> and sometimes
> enlightening.
I'll show you my zen if you show me yours!
~Panda
anatmanwave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
---Once a Zen monk
was weighing flax for sale in the market
Another monk approaches and ask,"Show me your
Zen".
First monk replies,"This flax weighs six pounds"
After about a year of inactivity, I have resumed posting on this forum. I've
had a lot more
time than usual to spend online due to my high-maintenance girlfriend's recent,
temporarily disabling operation (just a foot surgery, nothing serious) and the
fact that she
is pretty much useless in he
Maybe you would like to share details of your practice/routine (?) You seem to
have very
definite ideas of your practice's inspirations and roles in life/advancement.
How do you do that voodoo that you do?
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺å¦ç²¾æ
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Socrates believed wisdom came not from what one knows, but from how much one
knows
that one does not know. He therefore never entered politics, believing it
would be
inappropriate for him to make the best decisions on others' behalves when he
himself
claimed to be unwise and ignorant, knowin
diablodrakul, wether you're right or wrong about him,
you definitely made me laugh. It makes sense. If
he's an impostor it makes sense that he WOULD have a
name like "Fred Schwartz", and it makes sense that I
WOULD be asking questions of a guy who's really just
some culty hack from Brooklyn! Peo
Last time I posted a bunch of penis jokes and later a
felt all bad and stuff. Is discomfort really any more
of an "obstacle" than comfort is an "opportunity"?
Methinks when you're cold, be cold buddha. When
you're hot, be hot buddha. But that is just what
methinks.
--- Jackson Masters <[EMAIL
Oh, for the love of ...
--- Frazier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How does menstruation affect your zazen practice? Do
> hormonal
> fluctuations affect satori? Does a zen master who is
> having her period
> reach higher or lower levels? Does she become One
> with The Flow?
_
I would love to see one of those guys saying, "God
works in mysterious ways... except for the part about
all of you sending me your money. THAT part is pretty
clear."
--- Jackson Masters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was watching a TV show which interviewed a few of
> those modern
> christian
Buddhism would be the same way if the Romans had
adopted it instead of Kritchen-anity. Imagine that,
"the Roman-Buddhist church"
Wasn't it the Roman government that supposedly
excecuted Jesus? And then a couple hundred years
later claimed him as their god? No wonder they're
full of hypocrisy!
Remember that little ditty about the monk who picks
the scorpion out of the water to save it, because
that's the monk's nature, and how the scorpion stings
the monk, because that's the scorpion's nature, and
how the scorpion falls back in the water and the monk
still picks it out of the water to sa
I hope you have not forgotten to dig up that material you have been
working on regarding time/cause&effect. What it something I said??
Really though, if you are still willing to share, I'd still love to
take a look!
P-P-P-Panda
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Nine out of ten times, if you ask someone if they are feeling something, or if
you put them in the position of expecting something (such as perfroming an
elaborate excersize) they WILL feel "it" (or at least "something" that will be
interpreted as "it")
aaannndd ZEN!
--- On
Hold yer horses!
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's not put the cart in front of the horse!
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On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 12:42 AM EDT Joe wrote:
>PBS,
>
>Thanks!
>
>Good to see you again.
>
>Better than hold our noses. Our horses.
>
>What comes to mind?
>
>--Joe
>
>
He who can escape every single time he is imprisoned is still not free
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inters, perfume advisories, or menu
recommendations?
I'm having my birthday cake in 30 minutes.
Be free, healthy,
in the Dharma,
--Joe
> "pandabananasock" wrote:
>
> He who can escape every single time he is imprisoned is
still not free
--
Thought : Experience :: Masturbation : Sex
Bill the the cartoon character whose crazy buddy says "Thanks, I needed that"
after Bill slaps him.
By the way, does anyone else see the humor: Bill posts about the frivolity of
intellectualizing, and people immediately start ripping his semantics to
Most people think of "1+1=2" as procedural, that is, that there is 1, THEN we
add 1 to it, THEN it becomes 2. They would regard "2=1+1" and "2=2" to be
different equations, but they are not in the least bit different. The
equal-sign is the present.
"1+1" is already 2! And the effect IS the c
Burn the Sanghas down, with all their books inside. Ash is wonderful for
gardens!
--
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 5:29 AM EDT Bill! wrote:
>This is what I was trying to say about Buddhism...
>
>...Bill!
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wrote:
Subject: Re: [Zen] Say Bye-Bye to the Delusion of Cause-and-Effect and Karma
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 3, 2013, 8:56 AM
PBS (That's going to be my TLA (Three
Letter Acronym) for Pandabananasock from now on)...
I'll ignore all the math but do agr
The form of this thread has demonstrated its own content. It is its own
example. Beautiful!
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To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 3, 2013, 10:04 AM
Edgar,
I
Gotta love music
audio art : visual art :: time : space
sound : light :: notes : color
tone : hue :: pitch : brightness
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To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com"
Date: Wednesday,
s become rivers and mountains again!
> ~PeeBeeEss
>
>
> On Wed, 7/3/13, Bill! wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [Zen] Say Bye-Bye to the Delusion of
Cause-and-Effect and Karma
> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, July 3, 2013, 8:56 AM
>
>
I AM !
On Wed, 7/3/13, Bill! wrote:
Subject: Re: [Zen] Say Bye-Bye to the Delusion of Cause-and-Effect and Karma
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 3, 2013, 9:32 PM
PBS,
Then by all means, Just EAT!
...Bil
Great quote, Bill!! May I compliment?"Art is as close as you can get to
perfection without getting caught in the wake" -- Captain BeefheartIt would
seem that the small amount of ego that we need is also large enough for
everything we want. (Run it both ways)No need to shed ego, and no need to
All the formerly discarded peripheral vision; the AC turns on and the
ventilation sings its shape through the drywall; the left hand has never felt
so useless -- I am making progress; time to start over.Whoa, now I gotta pee...
no choice but to get up or piss myself. Now I feel stupid for thin
Math is just the world of delusion, except after the play, out of character,
backstage giving an interview.
Just like anything else, we regard it, and it reflects back whatever mental
framework we use to regard it in the first place.
Haiku (I posted this YEARS ago):
Strike a bell with wood.
St
Perception, delusion, thought... these are all based on each other. Experience
just IS. You can't think of anything you don't already know -- thoughts that
feel new are just new combinations of pieces of old knowledge.
When we do experience "experience", mind is aware of it, and does what it
Bill!,
It takes one to know one!
~PeeBeeEss
--
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 10:30 AM EDT Bill! wrote:
>PBS,
>
>Good analogy!
>
>...Bill!
>
>--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, pandabananasock@... wrote:
>>
>>
>> Perception, d
linear
>> equations.
>> > > > > > > Numbers, points, the constituents drop away as the eternal
>> unity is seen.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > > > --Chris
>> &g
ill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com,
pandabananasock@... wrote:
>
>
> Bill!,
> It takes one to know one!
> ~PeeBeeEss
>
>
> --
> On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 10:30 AM EDT Bill! wrote:
>
> >PBS,
> >
> >Good an
Chris,
I should have worded my response, "Mind minds mind". What's the point of
trying to conceptualize monistic experience when it's already right there? It
reminds me of people at concerts who watch the show on their iPhone screens as
they record it.
-PBS
---
ng the toilet bowl of samsara. Bah,
>> humbug! ;-)
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 7/5/13, Bill! wrote:
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Zen] Huang Po on Thinking and Seeing
>> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Fr
Are you wearing glasses right now?
Can you see the frames in your periphery?
Did you see them before I asked?
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ce reality like this. Because you ARE NOT
>>>>> EXPERIENCING REALITY AT ALL!
>>>>>
>>>>> Edgar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 7, 2013, at 9:14 AM, uerusub...@yahoo.c
The marionette operator is not the puppet itself, but what good is a guy hidden
in the rafters above the stage with nothing attached to his strings?
The shorter the strings between the puppet and the operator, the better that
the puppet reflects the operator's intent.
The strings have been shor
Merle,
The following snippets are from your response to Bill!, but I'm going to employ
license to reply to them myself :)
You: "why are you so adverse to the intellect...?... it is a tool us humans
need to survive"
Me: To "survive" means to live to any point in the future. What is there right
"Get on the Road to Freedom
Help us free all mankind
The pain and all your sorrow
Are only in your mind."
-Chorus of "The Road to Freedom", 1983, music & lyrics by L Ron Hubbard
(performed by John Travolta, Leif Garrett, and Frank Stallone.)
Applied familiarity can be dangerous!
--
bullshit
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Has anyone here experienced hearing their mind aloud? I mean really HEARING,
not thoughts.
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Is it really any different than anything else?
It is seeming that the answer to any "how" or "why" question is always "How/why
could/would it be any other way?"
... talk about putting the cart before the ox...
Phlabbuschrontz!
~PBS
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