That's quite a document. I believe I've seen it only once before. Yes,
there seems to be a couple of teachings which it suggests, but proving it
to the world is something else again. Then again, maybe the world doesn't
have to know.
Stacy.
--
[Non-text portions of this message have been
I guess I often thought about the differences between the account of the
creation in the Book of Moses and the Book of Abraham. I think the one in
Abraham is far more detailed.
Stacy.
At 09:44 AM 11/13/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Gary:
Interesting speculation and observations.
I have long
The two most Christlike individuals I can say that I knew intimately, ah,
one is dead and the other one I lost contact with. They were the first to
fellowship me in my ward.
Stacy.
At 04:07 PM 11/12/2003 -0900, you wrote:
I grew up outside the Church and met a number of good, honorable, even
Semantics, semantics. Better is probably not appropriate, just more
detailed and less detailed.
Stacy.
At 12:31 PM 11/13/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Actually, I erred. Moses is good, Abraham is better.
--
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
zI confess I'm worried on these accounts.
Stacy.
At 12:56 PM 11/13/2003 -0700, you wrote:
At 09:56 AM 11/13/2003, RBS (Or is that just plain BS grin) wrote:
Because you write well, Steven, I assume you're a reasonably bright guy.
But, when I read you web site practically the only prophet you
I haven't yet figured out how to do this. Perhaps that is why the Lord
hasn't called me to be a missionary even though I am a convert and feel I
would be able to fellowship someone who was trying to convert from another
church.
Stacy.
At 12:51 AM 11/03/2003 +, you wrote:
President
I would like to know more about this and to confirm exactly what the
Hebrews had to do in their slavery and how they left by other sources.
Stacy.
At 06:43 PM 11/02/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Gerald Smith wrote:
There's an article in the Sep/Oct 2003 Biblical Archaeological Review
(BAR) magazine
As I recall, there hasn't been any mandate as to what was to be said for
early missionaries of the church and I find that interesting in and of
itself. It seems to me that they are now supposed to be more guided by the
Spirit in what they say and how they say it. That is a good thing.
Stacy.
Whoever said we were supposed to be mainstream? Aren't we supposed to not
be conformed to this world?
Stacy.
At 01:20 PM 10/31/2003 -0700, you wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Jim Cobabe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: October 31, 2003 11:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE:
I think that we will grow in power and influence and be a force to be
reckoned with but that it will take a few more years. We have to have a
very active base, and I don't believe that the majority of the people
listed on the rolls are active.
Stacy.
At 09:00 AM 10/27/2003 -0900, you wrote:
I have had problems with my own family also.
Stacy.
At 02:51 PM 10/26/2003 -0900, you wrote:
Jim Cobabe wrote:
I am continually wounded by discussions that use family metaphors
regarding church fellowship. Over the past decade my family ties have
been tested, both bonds with literal
Social club? That was farthest from my mind while I was converting. In
fact, my old church had doughnuts during the Sunday school hour and people
who just sat around talking. Yes, it had degenerated into that. I was
looking for something much more and I found it.
Stacy.
At 11:17 PM
At 09:14 AM 10/24/2003 -0400, you wrote:
This is an autoresponder. I'll never see your message.
//
/// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at ///
/// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html ///
I think this is a relevant point. Those who see Christ come to govern
during the millenial reign will have enough knowledge in all probability.
Stacy.
At 10:21 AM 11/12/2003 -0900, you wrote:
Gerald Smith wrote:
But the longlasting Outer Darkness made for Sons of Perdition is a place
which
The people of the earth often get messages from the Holy Ghost; they just
don't always have Him with them. Neither do we if we're not living right.
Stacy.
At 04:30 PM 11/12/2003 -0700, you wrote:
The truth is, Ron, I don't know that much about Mother Theresa. There
are
a lot of good
He could have been enlightened on that at the later date.
Stacy.
At 05:14 PM 11/04/2003 -0900, you wrote:
Apparently Elder Nelson himself has spoken of God's unconditional love
in General Conference. Heh, heh. I wonder if he was aware of that when
he wrote his article for the February 2003
This I have read, but what about the broad way which we are told will be
followed by many?
Stacy.
At 03:52 PM 11/08/2003 -0500, you wrote:
I have some quotes here, which will show that one must do more than
receive the Holy Ghost and reject it to become a candidate for perdition.
You will see
I would sincerely like to do this but I fear the time is too short for it.
Stacy.
At 05:10 AM 11/11/2003 +, you wrote:
Here's a paper addressing that topic from John Welch. He is not a
general authority, but is certainly a gospel scholar with few peers.
Very convincing. I'm sure that if there was a physical mark everyone would
be able to see it and try to stay clear of it. But it is interesting that
men have given up on the cause for food. What about Esau and others like him?
Stacy.
At 07:36 AM 11/11/2003 -0700, you wrote:
At 07:11 PM
The Seventh-day Adventists with whom I also used to belong considered these
events to already have been fulfilled. I don't know.
Stacy.
At 08:10 AM 11/07/2003 -0600, you wrote:
Hello all...
I read a bit on cnn.com this morning about the upcoming lunar eclipse this
weekend and how the moon
My churches always taught no sexual union before marriage and no
extramarital affairs either. It's what they didn't teach about the other
doctrines I've come to appreciate.
Stacy.
At 06:12 PM 11/06/2003 -0900, you wrote:
Jim Cobabe wrote:
John W. Redelfs wrote:
---
How can we teach
1) that
I'll have to remember this one. The fact is that some people are confused
and do not feel they are being totally taught correctly on this point. I
have a friend who took the missionary discussions and decided not to
join. Because missionaries are taught not to put down any other churches
I love the man and think he is the closest to Jesus Christ that I have ever
seen.
Stacy.
At 10:34 PM 11/03/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Friends:
Like me, some of you may suffer from increasingly short-term memory loss and
others here don't know me at all. So an introduction.
Perhaps the best
I fully agree. I'm sure everyone tries to avoid it but it happens
nevertheless.
Stacy.
At 07:21 AM 11/05/2003 -0700, you wrote:
Why would you bring up specifically this book? All of the sunday school
manuals are correlated, therefore all could pass the same test you offer -
could they not?
As
This I find to be true and it makes sense when we consider that even in the
early church they would be able to excommunicate members for offenses.
Finally, there is the clear reference to Esau as being hated by God. Even
if this means loved less, isn't that conditional? I forget the
As a convert I was taken aback by Gospel Principles and felt I had been
dropped into an alien world. Were it not for the people fellowshipping me
I probably would have left.
Stacy.
At 06:09 PM 11/04/2003 -0900, you wrote:
The book GOSPEL PRINCIPLES is the correlated manual for the Gospel
Maybe it got lost in the translation.
Stacy.
At 03:15 AM 11/05/2003 +, you wrote:
-JWR-
I went looking for some scriptural evidence that God ever hates
any of his children, and my cursory survey did not turn up
anything. Am I missing something? Surely God hates wickedness,
but does he
I understand all of the above, however, I go back to Joseph Smith in which
he was commanded to join none of them. Helping them on some project may
appear to be wonderful, but doesn't it suggest to some who have gotten
mixed signals that we no longer hold the doctrine of the restoration of the
Very good policy.
Stacy.
At 12:07 AM 11/06/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Well, John, I would agree with you there. Bashing is not in the Christlike
action list of things to do. I am commanded to love the bashers, but I
certainly don't have to either like them or tolerate being around them.
But I was
My sentiments exactly!
Stacy.
At 02:50 PM 11/05/2003 -0900, you wrote:
Gerald Smith wrote:
Your list is doctrinal. But once one begins scratching the surface of
these ideas, we leave the area of doctrine and enter into speculation.
For example,
1. There is a God with a body, but was he a
Hi. I'm finding these days that Zion isn't listing enough traffic. I'd
like to see a list that generates about 20 or 30 more messages. Where can
I find such a list?
Stacy.
--
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Is it all right to make forgiveness of serious sins conditional? For
example, I'll forgive you if you are willing to join this church.
Stacy.
--
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
//
/// ZION LIST
You know, the more I think about it, I didn't quite experiment that way
before. I had only protein for two meals and carbs for a third meal. But
what is being proposed would be very hard to live with but I guess I'd have
to find a tasty way. I don't remember God opposing bread and such,
ice cream
fans
so switched to Blue Bunny with a little fresh fruit instead of all the
sauces. Judy makes the best pies in the world so it is a big sacrifice in
that regard, but our tastes have changed dramatically and we find it easy
to
just say no and have a fresh apple instead.
Stacy Smith
!
Heidi
[Original Message]
From: Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 9/30/2003 12:00:33 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] Thought for the day
I want to know more about how to get more diabetic products because I
can't
find them in my local supermarket.
Stacy.
At 03:01 PM 09/30
by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you
are doing the impossible.
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 10:01:07 -0500 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I want to know more about how to get more diabetic products because I
can't
find them in my local supermarket.
Stacy
the impossible.
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 10:01:07 -0500 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I want to know more about how to get more diabetic products because I
can't find them in my local supermarket.
Stacy.
The best thing to hit
I want to know more about how to get more diabetic products because I can't
find them in my local supermarket.
Stacy.
At 03:01 PM 09/30/2003 +, you wrote:
That IS a nice thought (even for a diabetic). And, nope, I didn't get
that post. And it is strange how far off-topic we got. Who
Hey out there. I'm missing all the mail or there is none.
Stacy.
--
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
//
/// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at ///
/// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html
incidents. Also remind people that the law of capital
punishment is in effect in some states still and was definitely
countenanced by God in the Bible.
Stacy.
At 08:51 AM 09/28/2003 -0500, you wrote:
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:36:22 -0500 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I thought you were
When I tried to listen to the meeting I got an error message. Yet the
tester worked fine on my machine.
Stacy.
--
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
//
/// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at ///
Smith was translating from that, right? But this may indeed stir up
anti-Mormon sentiment.
Stacy.
At 08:51 AM 09/28/2003 -0500, you wrote:
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:36:22 -0500 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I thought you were an apologist.
Stacy.
Yes, in a manner of speaking. I do
Congratulations, John. Now I wish to address this continuing problem with
email regarding Topica. We've had it on other lists to which I was a
member for a short time. It always showed up with people who were using
Juno in that case instead of Outlook, Outlook Express or Eudora with an ISP
had my MSN account and my
MStar account.
*jeep!
~~Chet
If ya thinks ya is right, ya deserfs credit - even if ya is wrong. Gus
Segar via Popeye
-- Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Congratulations, John. Now I wish to address this continuing problem with
email regarding Topica. We've had
This is very interesting. It implies that God doesn't always correct error
for his purposes.
Stacy.
At 08:26 PM 09/27/2003 -0500, you wrote:
How does the lonely Mormon apologist, Paul Osborne, square with the fact
(based on evidence) that the prophet Joseph Smith incorrectly thought the
I don't remember. Are you on FAIR or affiliated with them?
Stacy.
At 09:21 PM 09/27/2003 -0500, you wrote:
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:16:56 -0500 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
This is very interesting. It implies that God doesn't always correct
error
for his purposes.
Stacy
?
Maybe they have been in THEY LIE IN WAIT TO DECEIVE but I haven't been able
to read those books, which I think is a travesty, because I may never learn
what is in those books.
Help me out here, please.
Stacy.
At 09:55 PM 09/27/2003 -0500, you wrote:
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:47:14 -0500 Stacy
:25:24 -0500 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Well, can you answer me another question which I am very curious
about?
I have not read either of the Godmaker books. I'm careful not to read to
much antiMormon material because it is depressing and does not edify at
all.
What specifically are you
Where does one get it? Are these candies?
Stacy.
At 04:38 PM 09/22/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Stacy Smith wrote:
No, what is it? (sucralose)
Sucralose is the trade name for the stereoisomer of normal sucrose (table
sugar). It tastes the same as regular sugar, but is not processed by the
body
Hi. I see that my question about the books has tactfully been avoided. Is
this author off limits to Zion?
Stacy.
--
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
//
/// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at
]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 12:55 PM
Subject: RE: [ZION] working woman
Stacy Smith wrote:
I wish I could work at all. The Department of Rehabilitation in this
county has evaluated me and decided I am unemployable. This is no
laughing matter for me and has caused me
Their desire, in my opinion, is to coach the person seeking help to get
personal revelation and help solve their own problems. At times they have
referred people to therapists.
Stacy.
At 10:28 PM 09/19/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Jim Cobabe wrote:
Counsel with the bishop is a standard answer.
I wish I could work at all. The Department of Rehabilitation in this
county has evaluated me and decided I am unemployable. This is no laughing
matter for me and has caused me much depression. Seeing I have no
children, employment outside the home should not have been a problem for me.
That's not true of me. I loved medical transcription but did not have the
necessary speed required and the references I was able to get became out of
date soon. I loved it and I could learn to love something else.
Stacy.
At 08:55 AM 09/20/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Stacy Smith wrote:
I wish I
The line must be decided individual case by individual case between the
person and the bishop, I'm sure.
Stacy.
At 02:12 PM 09/19/2003 +, you wrote:
With regard to applying prophetic counsel, where is the line between
personal prerogative and inspiration, and personal apostasy?
2 Sam
Not exactly. Sometimes it can be very uncomfortable to follow prophetic
counsel and sometimes circumstantial change does not warrant a change. If
there is any difficulty in this, as there has been with me and the fast,
one counsels with the bishop.
Stacy.
At 01:35 PM 09/19/2003 +, you
I fought the Amendment myself even though I wasn't a church member yet and
would not become a member for another twenty-some years.
Stacy.
At 09:04 PM 09/14/2003 -0400, you wrote:
And why are they working? To get that second car, or the boat or the
bigger house??? I am reminded of what the
. The only thing I can say for them is that they have learned to
relax.
Stacy.
At 02:11 PM 09/14/2003 +, you wrote:
Stacy Smith wrote:
---
The implications are that people from the far East are better?
---
I implied no such thing, but since you asked, perhaps you could please
instruct us
P.S.: Sorry about that. I forgot about the list charter. Maybe
mentioning that these guys merely exist is a violation.
Stacy.
At 02:11 PM 09/14/2003 +, you wrote:
Stacy Smith wrote:
---
The implications are that people from the far East are better?
---
I implied no such thing
It would indeed be a disaster of unjudgable and far-reaching implications.
Stacy.
At 09:30 PM 09/10/2003 -0400, you wrote:
I'm sorry, but I can't tell if you are hopeful or not. I will assume that
you are not.
Jon
- Original Message -
From: Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL
The implications are that people from the far East are better?
Stacy.
At 02:06 AM 09/11/2003 +, you wrote:
I wish I could understand why the contemporary western view is that our
women are so transcendingly enlightened. Nothing could be further from
the truth.
Most contemporary western
This is obviously after the fact, something which I wish to prevent.
Stacy.
At 09:04 AM 09/10/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Stacy Smith wrote:
Hey, does this right to bear arms extend to someone who uses alcohol to
excess and might decide to kill my parents?
It does not extend to someone who actually
Well, I am, for one, angry that it seems a woman could never leave home
until she was married. This Biblical state of affairs caused a lot of
conflict in my own life and made me bitter. Even when society said I could
leave home I tried several times and always ended up with a nervous
How utterly repugnant! Moldy bread representing the body of Christ!
Stacy.
At 10:56 PM 09/09/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Did the revelation allow the use of moldy bread as our Teachers tried to do
once when they wanted to use some bread left in the container we use to
bring the Sacrament trays back
Hey, does this right to bear arms extend to someone who uses alcohol to
excess and might decide to kill my parents?
Stacy.
At 06:20 PM 09/09/2003 -0800, you wrote:
I am so proud to be an Alaskan. Tonight on the local news I learned that
the governor signed a law that went into effect today
More to the point, those Scriptures in and of themselves speak nothing
about those who have repented of fornication being all right to be
fellowshipped. Why not?
Stacy.
At 11:21 PM 09/07/2003 -0800, you wrote:
I am fascinated by Church members disagreeing with the scriptures. This
morning
Don't feel bad. I also feel the same way about many things. Is that why I
have equilibrium problems? Lol.
Stacy.
At 10:56 PM 09/07/2003 -0800, you wrote:
I am occasionally accused of emphasizing the negative, and I plead
guilty. When the truth demands a balance of emphasis between the
I am now positive that if one kills himself he will end up as a telestial
being. Am I right on this point?
Stacy.
--
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
//
/// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at
I may be a dunce on this one, but where is the true symbolism of Jesus'
lifeblood being crushed out of him and him being bruised for our iniquities
with the current use of water in our Sacrament? With grape juice we'd have
the proper symbolism, but I fail to see the proper symbolism
Okay, please provide references or explain.
Stacy.
At 08:37 AM 09/08/2003 -0500, you wrote:
At 04:41 AM 9/8/03 -0500, Stacy Smith wrote:
I am now positive that if one kills himself he will end up as a telestial
being. Am I right on this point?
Absolutely not according to the CHI or to what
released from
that calling went into a depressive period which ended when he took his
life.
The Apostles, yes plural, which spoke at his funeral make it clear that you
should not judge him unwisely or harshly. I would take their advice on this
matter.
George
- Original Message -
From: Stacy
Are you suggesting that not all of Paul's guidance should be taken as
from the Lord on these matters?
Stacy.
At 07:34 AM 09/08/2003 -0700, you wrote:
At 11:21 PM 9/7/2003 -0800, The BLT wrote:
. . . in the Church we shouldn't associate with unrepentant
fornicators. Was Paul a self-righteous
Good point. When Jesus was associating with these people they were
definitely outsiders. The general complaint was that he was associating
with the lowest class of people.
Stacy.
At 08:25 AM 09/08/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Rick Mathis wrote:
What did Jesus do? Did he refuse to associate with
: Monday, September 08, 2003 2:20 PM
Subject: RE: [ZION] The Meaning of the Olive Press or the Winepress in
Practical Terms
Stacy Smith:
I may be a dunce on this one, but where is the true
symbolism of Jesus' lifeblood being crushed out of him
and him being bruised for our iniquities
Of course, these were extreme times when our enemies could really do things
to us.
Stacy.
At 08:20 PM 09/08/2003 +, you wrote:
Stacy Smith:
I may be a dunce on this one, but where is the true
symbolism of Jesus' lifeblood being crushed out of him
and him being bruised for our iniquities
I can very well understand tests of belief in local priesthood
leaders. Saying that, I'm still careful to realize these people are
human. I think a higher authority should be called on now such as a
seventy to straighten this out if the locals won't do anything.
Stacy.
At 04:20 PM
Is that better than clicking a mouse? Lol.
Stacy.
At 07:10 PM 09/08/2003 -0500, you wrote:
On Mon, 08 Sep 2003 04:41:45 -0500 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I am now positive that if one kills himself he will end up as a
telestial
being. Am I right on this point?
Stacy
It's already happening.
Stacy.
At 06:16 PM 09/08/2003 -0600, you wrote:
Help. I'm in need of a quote. It's a quote from General Conference which
says (paraphrased) that in the coming years there will be greater and
greater division of the righteous from the wicked. That the righteous will
See answer below.
At 09:26 PM 09/08/2003 -0500, you wrote:
At 04:52 PM 9/8/03 -0800, John W. Redelfs wrote:
maddogpierre wrote:
What do you recommend John, hanging at noon?
God will deal with them, on occasion involving the Bishop and Stake
President.
Correct. He will. But the point I was
I haven't willfully tried to break promises to God. My bishop knows this.
Stacy.
At 09:46 AM 09/04/2003 -0800, you wrote:
The way I use the language, all Mormons are baptized members of the Church
of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. And every baptized member of this
Church has made two
Life is indeed suffering, and I don't agree that we just put up with
absolutely everything we are handed. I mean, of course, people's
attitudes. I'm not insisting God do something about my physical infirmity.
Stacy.
At 07:28 PM 09/02/2003 -0500, you wrote:
I don't know the answer, John. I'm
What you often don't consider is the love and affection we can have for
such nonmembers. You also don't consider the drive for some of these
nonmembers later to become baptized. You also don't consider the example
of others who have done so and their marriages finally wind up in the
temple.
I'm forty-five.
Stacy.
At 08:19 PM 09/01/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Stacy Smith wrote:
Who is really free? I don't consider myself free. Freedom has become a
silly joke in my case. Everyone always wants to know where I'm going,
when I'll be back, even what I eat
Who is really free? I don't consider myself free. Freedom has become a
silly joke in my case. Everyone always wants to know where I'm going, when
I'll be back, even what I eat.
Stacy.
At 09:31 AM 09/01/2003 -0600, you wrote:
Although I concur with your comments I find the use of the term
That all can be easily explained by bearing the sins of everyone and the
planets' sympathy for what was going on.
I had an interesting experience while reading all of this. Shockingly, it
seems I had a crazy memory of one day as a spirit being hurled around for
no reason I could fathom at the
Hi. I'm reading some books on the atonement of Jesus Christ. There has
been a general expression in at least one of the books I am reading (all by
LDS authors but not all authorities) that Jesus Christ took upon Himself
more than the sins of all the people in all of the infinite worlds which
This doesn't quite answer the question, although it may seem to answer
it. Some have implied that Jesus took on the experience of every single
man, woman and child.
Stacy.
At 09:00 PM 08/24/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Here is a quote from Alma, chapter 7, that may help:
10 And behold, he shall
No, I'm not sure about that. For one thing, they weren't the ones who
started it. The Apostasy grew and they were one of its offshoots.
Stacy.
At 05:01 PM 08/25/2003 -0500, you wrote:
You made me smile, Paul. When I read your comment, my mind raced to
Mormon Doctrine 20+ years ago, when
How stupid? I'm not sure of your point.
Stacy.
At 03:38 PM 08/23/2003 -0500, you wrote:
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 12:52:13 -0500 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Hi. This is something I wasn't taught by the missionaries. I guess
they
didn't feel it was necessary to mention it. I'm
Hi. This is something I wasn't taught by the missionaries. I guess they
didn't feel it was necessary to mention it. I'm curious why the Jehovah's
Witnesses do not celebrate birthdays but we feel it is okay. Apparently
they claim they have a Biblical reason not to do so. Yet we celebrate
negative to the temple.
The answer is still NO and the previous reasons still apply.
George
---Original Message---
From: Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08/21/03 08:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ZION] Temple Defilement
Obviously I was referring to those who go in spite
Hi. Has anyone ever witnessed an actual excommunication of someone else by
this or any other church? It seems to me that most churches refuse to do
it. Why this bothers me I'm not sure, because I know that other churches
don't have the authority to really matter but somehow it does. I think
You imply there is a difference between disfellowshipment and
excommunication. Is there any record of what was said when Oliver Cowdary
was excommunicated, for instance?
Stacy.
At 08:42 PM 08/22/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Stacy Smith:
Has anyone ever witnessed an actual excommunication
Obviously I was referring to those who go in spite of the fact they know
they aren't living up to even the letter. Are those people defiling the
temple?
Stacy.
At 10:20 PM 08/19/2003 -0700, you wrote:
On Tuesday, August 19, 2003, at 08:38 PM, George Cobabe wrote:
No! There is not one of
Many churches only have one single authority to go on. That's one of the
primary reasons I left my former denomination.
Stacy.
At 03:25 PM 08/20/2003 +, you wrote:
Something which I've settled in my mind and thought I had no problem with
is the same problem that these folks - and most
That's what I would hope is that they have no power to really defile the
temple. Look at what happened to the first Nauvoo temple!
Stacy.
At 02:26 AM 08/20/2003 +, you wrote:
Stacy Smith wrote:
---
I still don't understand the question I asked being answered. We know
that
many people
I'm glad I'm not there right now. Let's hope it doesn't spread to California.
Stacy.
At 02:15 AM 08/20/2003 +, you wrote:
West Nile virus has been detected in Utah as of last week.
Earlier this summer the virus spread through southern Colorado. Seven
people were found to be infected in
it as a House of Our
Lord. I trust that he will continue to do so until he tells his servant,
the prophet.
Jon
Stacy Smith wrote:
Obviously I was referring to those who go in spite of the fact they know
they aren't living up to even the letter. Are those people defiling the
temple
I still don't understand the question I asked being answered. We know that
many people attend the temple when they shouldn't. Doesn't this defile the
temple itself?
Stacy.
//
/// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at
Another intriguing question is if someone enters unworthily why isn't the
temple automatically defiled?
Stacy.
At 02:04 AM 08/19/2003 +, you wrote:
One of the basic tenets of Gnosticsim seems to be that we were consigned
to this mortal probation as punishment for our evil nature. This
1 - 100 of 306 matches
Mail list logo
