RE: [ZION] Marc Schindler: Very Sad News

2003-10-20 Thread Jo McGee
I am also saddened by this news. I know Marc's health had been of great concern for some time, but this still comes as a great shock. He will be greatly missed in many areas. with love Jo Steven Montgomery wrote: Regarding the news of Marc Schindler's death: I'm saddened to hear this. I

Re: [ZION] Mathematics

2003-10-17 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 08:09 AM 10/17/03 -0600, Steven Montgomery wrote: Can one of you mathematical types out there explain the mathematical terms, positional and juxtapositional to me? The quote comes from an article entitled, Doing Business in Babylon, as found in the latest BYU magazine (See it online at:

RE: [ZION] Breaking the charter?

2003-10-17 Thread Jim Cobabe
My friends, I concern myself little about the fools who mock the truth. Their time is limited, they will wither away like the summer grass, and the truth will still be strong. One of the side effects naysayers unwittingly cause is raising the level of public awareness about the Church.

Re: [ZION] Breaking the charter?

2003-10-17 Thread Jon Spencer
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] Breaking the charter? Jon Spencer wrote: In the US, their actions are protected speech. While the actions of the two members in response to this provocation are understandable from an emotional point

Re: [ZION] Breaking the charter?

2003-10-17 Thread Rusty Taylor
say apoplectic stroke??? I knew you could! Jon - Original Message - From: John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] Breaking the charter? Jon Spencer wrote: In the US, their actions are protected speech. While

Re: [ZION] Mathematics

2003-10-17 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 10:09 AM 10/17/2003, you wrote: At 08:09 AM 10/17/03 -0600, Steven Montgomery wrote: Can one of you mathematical types out there explain the mathematical terms, positional and juxtapositional to me? The quote comes from an article entitled, Doing Business in Babylon, as found in the latest

RE: [ZION] Breaking the charter?

2003-10-16 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 06:45 PM 10/15/2003, you wrote: Friends, I am angered by the total lack of respect these people had for anothers faith. The behavior described is obnoxious and also unacceptable. I Pray that the perpetrators find God and see what they have done to hurt people of faith. Pax et

RE: [ZION] Breaking the charter?

2003-10-16 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 09:18 PM 10/15/03 -0400, Noel B wrote: Not that I would want to minimize what happened with sidewalk sleeze, but I would take it over marching into the Roman Coliseum to face the lions... old joke time And now in sports, this late score from the Coliseum: Lions 39, Saints 0 [we now

Re: [ZION] Fw: CNN Breaking News

2003-10-15 Thread Grampa Bill in Savannah
Cousin Bill wrote: -- China launches its first manned space mission, becoming third country to do so. -- Wonderful news, in my opinion, though I will be much more excited when a winner is declared for the X Prize. = Grampa Bill

Re: [ZION] Breaking the charter?

2003-10-15 Thread Jon Spencer
Whether this happened or did not happen, it certainly could have and has in other places. One example is that some missionaries, short on time, took their laundry to a local cleaners (bad decision #1). The owner kept a pair of garments and displayed them in the window (bad decision #2) and would

Re: [ZION] Breaking the charter?

2003-10-15 Thread Paul Osborne
Dear ones, I received the following by email. It probably violates the charter for me to forward it... but does anyone know the truth of this? I am incensed! === Yep, I read about it. The political correct police action showed its true colors. Brigham Young is rolling

Re: [ZION] Breaking the charter?

2003-10-15 Thread George Cobabe
Bob Lonsberry is a radio personality with an early morning talk show in Utah and New York. He lives and works out of Rodchester, NY and simultcasts to both markets for part of the show. What are you incensed about? Is it the fact of the essay or the conclusion reached??? I thought it a good

Re: [ZION] Breaking the charter?

2003-10-15 Thread George Cobabe
- Original Message - From: Jon Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 6:44 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] Breaking the charter? Whether this happened or did not happen, it certainly could have and has in other places. One example is that some missionaries

Re: [ZION] Breaking the charter?

2003-10-15 Thread George Cobabe
OK, I thought that you were upset with the writer, Bob Lonsberry. The rest I understand. George - Original Message - From: Grampa Bill in Savannah [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [ZION] Breaking the charter? George

Re: [ZION] Breaking the charter?

2003-10-15 Thread Paul Osborne
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:04:07 -0400 Grampa Bill in Savannah Grampa Bill answers: I am incensed at the initial act of bigotry and blasphemy. I am further incensed that the police arrested my brethren. There are times when a quick run to the nearest Krispy Kreme is appropriate. This

RE: [ZION] Breaking the charter?

2003-10-15 Thread hkpage
I have heard that it *is* true, unfortunately. I wouldn't want to be any of those Baptist dudes when the time comes that they have to account for their actions... Heidi [Original Message] From: Grampa Bill in Savannah [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10/15/2003 6:27:31 AM

RE: [ZION] Breaking the charter?

2003-10-15 Thread Noel B
] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 8:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Breaking the charter? Friends, I am angered by the total lack of respect these people had for anothers faith. The behavior described is obnoxious and also unacceptable. I Pray that the perpetrators

RE: [ZION] Salvation

2003-10-14 Thread ghamblin
I have not researched, but understand that Salvation gets at resurrection, saved from death, the fall of Adam for as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. Thus we are saved. Did nothing to earn it. Couldn't earn it if we wanted to. Free gift. That's the grace. Exaltation

Re: [ZION] One by Leo Tolstoy

2003-10-14 Thread Rusty Taylor
I think Tolstoy was right on with that ocmment. sounds a lot like King Benjamins comments about serving. Bob Taylor I ran across this quote from Leo Tolstoy the other day. Rather than saying what I thought about it, I would like to put it out to the list and hear what you might have to say.

Re: [ZION] What did the Buddist monk ..

2003-10-14 Thread Chet Cox
... could it be ... is your real name, perhaps, Tehc Peej! Noj - Original Message - From: Chet Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] What did the Buddist monk .. Ouch! The traffic is getting so slow

Re: [ZION] What did the Buddist monk ..

2003-10-13 Thread Chet Cox
Ouch! The traffic is getting so slow around here that Jon is reduced to using jokes that even *Lois Clark* recycled. (Or was that a Byrned issue of Superman?) Oops - pardon me. That was Jon's Bizarro twin: Noj. *jeep! --Chet Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and

Re: [ZION] Salvation

2003-10-13 Thread mormonyoyoman
Strangely, John, I was looking this up not that long ago. And I couldn't find anything which indicated the Lord's salvation was anything less than the best He has to offer. I wondered then if this is where John Taylor picked up his the Kingdom of God or nothing slogan. Anyone else find

Re: [ZION] Salvation

2003-10-13 Thread George Cobabe
] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [ZION] Salvation Strangely, John, I was looking this up not that long ago. And I couldn't find anything which indicated the Lord's salvation was anything less than the best He has to offer. I wondered then if this is where John

Re: [ZION] Schwarzenegger

2003-10-12 Thread Jon Spencer
Nowhere else, unless (R)nold changed his residence. :-) Jon - Original Message - From: Jim Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 11:12 PM Subject: [ZION] Schwarzenegger Arnold becomes the new governor of California. Where else could such a

Re: [ZION] Schwarzenegger

2003-10-12 Thread Jon Spencer
Oink! Jon - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [ZION] Schwarzenegger I'm actually quite pleased with this. I think Arnold is one of the more intelligent and topical politicians that came out

RE: [ZION] Forgiveness of Serious Sins by Individual Members

2003-10-12 Thread Noel B
Message- From: Jon Spencer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 2:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ZION] Forgiveness of Serious Sins by Individual Members NO! it is up to the Lord whom he will forgive. But as for you (and me), it is a commandment that we must

Re: [ZION] Forgiveness of Serious Sins by Individual Members

2003-10-12 Thread Chet Cox
Maybe. Or it may be that I can forgive Cal Worthinginton for cheating me when he sold me a broken-down car. I do NOT have to ever buy a car from Cal Worthington again. Similarly, a woman can forgive someone who abused her. (I don't know how they can, I only know that they must for their own

Re: [ZION] Forgiveness of Serious Sins by Individual Members

2003-10-12 Thread Jon Spencer
Subject: RE: [ZION] Forgiveness of Serious Sins by Individual Members You can forgive someone and never associate with them again. Can one's forgiveness be truly tested if there is no longer any association with the offender? True forgiveness is marked by the ability to show love

Re: [ZION] More Lists

2003-10-11 Thread mormonyoyoman
The DiabetesWorld list at Yahoo Groups generates 20 or 30 messages about twice a day. But we could easily get 50 to 100 posts a day on Zion. All you have to do is speak up for or against any particular candidate for any particular political office -- just as long as that particular candidate

Re: [ZION] Schwarzenegger

2003-10-11 Thread mormonyoyoman
I'm actually quite pleased with this. I think Arnold is one of the more intelligent and topical politicians that came out of the 20th century. So many of us were disappointed at his failed bid for mayor of Hootersville that this -- What's that? Arnold Shwarzenegger, not Arnold Ziffle?

Re: [ZION] More Lists

2003-10-11 Thread Rusty Taylor
Stacy-- just sign up for Scouts-L and Scouts-LDS list-serve on Yahoo-- that should more than meet your goals-- at least when I was on there I was getting about 50-100 postings per day. if that's not enough, sign up for the other Scouting related lists. Bob Taylor The DiabetesWorld list at Yahoo

RE: [ZION] Forgiveness of Serious Sins by Individual Members

2003-10-10 Thread hkpage
Stacy, A few thoughts about your question...As tempting as that might be, and as justified as we think it might be, I kindly refer you to Doctrine Covenants 64:10 which reads: I, the Lord, will forgive whom I will forgive, but of you it is required to forgive all men. This isn't easy for me

Re: [ZION] the Need for Speed

2003-10-09 Thread Grampa Bill in Savannah
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The topic(s)? (Of the talks, not of the GD class!) Either something we learned in General Conference, one of the talks, or on the process of listening and learning from our prophets, seers, revelators, and just plain good ol' folks who spoke to us from that old tree

Re: [ZION] Ward and Stake Web Pages

2003-10-09 Thread hkpage
I wish our stake had one of those web pages...I can see how it would be extremely useful! Last time I checked, our stake didn't have one. Heidi [Original Message] From: Jon Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10/9/2003 1:47:37 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] Ward and Stake Web

Re: [ZION] the Need for Speed

2003-10-09 Thread mormonyoyoman
Your policy sounds really good to me, Bill, and I agree with it. I've never implemented it (and probably never will, since I love to blab) but I agree with it. One o' these days, I'll actually SAY that to a bishop and watch his shocked look. *jeep! ~~Chet (Almost as shocked a look as I get

RE: [ZION] the Need for Speed

2003-10-09 Thread J Stone
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your policy sounds really good to me, Bill, and I agree with it. I've never implemented it (and probably never will, since I love to blab) but I agree with it. One o' these days, I'll actually SAY that to a bishop and watch his shocked look. *jeep!

Re: [ZION] Ward and Stake Web Pages

2003-10-08 Thread Lew Thomas
At 05:07 AM 10/8/2003, you wrote: I do not think that anyone in our ward even knows about the page. I think I'm going to give it a try once I get my membership number. Thanks for the comment. The Savannah First Ward page is really nice you are doing a great job. Grampa Bill replies:

RE: [ZION] the Need for Speed

2003-10-08 Thread Noel B
Chet, If I were to vote, I would go for Elder Ballard's talk Sunday morning. What better a topic than coming to know our Father in Heaven? Been a long time since I heard the Lectures on Faith quoted. What a beautiful rendition of the encounter of Enoch with the Father. How canst thou weep? How is

Re: [ZION] Ward and Stake Web Pages

2003-10-08 Thread Jon Spencer
I log in regularly (usually at least daily), and have done so for a few years. Our stake was one of the first 12 to be the guinea pigs. It is quite useful. Jon - Original Message - From: Lew Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: zion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 12:48 AM

Re: [ZION] Ward and Stake Web Pages

2003-10-08 Thread Lew Thomas
Nothing is on our page and another member of the stake is the ward administrator. I email her and asked why? I'm going to try and get it going. I home teach the Bishop and Stake President (and Scoutmaster to there boys) and will bring it up to them as nothing is on either. Thanks for the

Re: [ZION] Where have all the Mormon feminists gone?

2003-10-05 Thread Chet Cox
The quick and easy answer to the subject question is: they (including feminists such as Gordon B. Hinckley) are still faithful members of the Church. The controversial answer is: just what is meant by the term feminist? Its original meaning was one who sought equal rights, blessings, and

Re: [ZION] Did you hear about ...

2003-10-05 Thread Chet Cox
Yep. He was obviously a first cousin of the agnostic dyslexic insomniac. On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 00:29:24 -0400 Jon Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did you hear about the dyslexic devil worshiper? He sold his soul to Santa. Noj

RE: [ZION] Where have all the Mormon feminists gone?

2003-10-05 Thread Jim Cobabe
The author of the article is one of those old-time man-hating feminists that apparently believed or sympathized with all the pernicious stereotypical ideas about the evils of patriarchy and blah blah blah. One of those for whom our friend John coined the term Signaturi. I am certain that

Re: [ZION] Women working in the temple (was feminists)

2003-10-05 Thread mormonyoyoman
-- Valerie Nielsen Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This IS the current way it works. My sister and her husband have been temple workers for years. They have 6 children. About 3 or 4 years ago, President Hinckley said that women with children under 18 could not be temple workers. Chet

Re: [ZION] Where have all the Mormon feminists gone?

2003-10-05 Thread mormonyoyoman
--Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't this speaking out against priesthood? Chet opines: Possibly. But the priesthood (not necessarily every male who holds the priesthood) has really broad shoulders and can take much more severe criticism than this. Me? I'll just hide my head

Re: [ZION] Women working in the temple (was feminists)

2003-10-05 Thread Valerie Nielsen Williams
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 00:46:18 GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -- Valerie Nielsen Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This IS the current way it works. My sister and her husband have been temple workers for years. They have 6 children. About 3 or 4 years ago, President Hinckley said that

Re: [ZION] Mormon movie

2003-10-05 Thread Doug McGee
My wife and I saw the movie last week. I liked the show but was quite disappointed with it too. The story (of course) was good. I was not at all impressed with the costuming. The costumes were obviously brand new material. You'd think they would try to make things a little bit authentic.

Re: [ZION] Where have all the Mormon feminists gone?

2003-10-05 Thread Jon Spencer
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [ZION] Where have all the Mormon feminists gone? The quick and easy answer to the subject question is: they (including feminists such as Gordon B. Hinckley) are still faithful members of the Church

Re: [ZION] Women working in the temple (was feminists)

2003-10-05 Thread Jon Spencer
No. It is definitely a cannot according to both our Temple President and our Stake President. Jon - Original Message - From: Valerie Nielsen Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [ZION] Women working in the temple

Re: [ZION] Thoughts On Diet

2003-10-03 Thread hkpage
sugars. Or, so I read in a health newsletter. (and, by the way, my sweet potato was really good last night!) Heidi [Original Message] From: Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10/3/2003 3:10:53 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] Thoughts On Diet That's odd! Sweet potatoes are so

Re: [ZION] Thoughts On Diet

2003-10-02 Thread R. Kent Francis
Kent clarifies: We don't remove ALL carbs as some have reported that the brain goes into stupid mode if it doesn't get some... we try to keep to less than 40 carbs (looking at a lot more labels now) mixed with major protein. Some carbs are better than others... Potatoes turn into 95% sugar

Re: [ZION] Thoughts On Diet

2003-10-02 Thread hkpage
. I think I know what I'm having... Heidi the hungry [Original Message] From: R. Kent Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10/2/2003 9:28:50 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] Thoughts On Diet Kent clarifies: We don't remove ALL carbs as some have reported that the brain goes

Re: [ZION] Thoughts On Diet

2003-10-02 Thread Stacy Smith
friends of ours (who are from out of town) tonight for supper at the Texas Roadhouse Steakhouse. I think I know what I'm having... Heidi the hungry [Original Message] From: R. Kent Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10/2/2003 9:28:50 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] Thoughts On Diet

Re: [ZION] Items for Diabetics (was: Thought for the day)

2003-10-01 Thread Stacy Smith
! Heidi [Original Message] From: Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 9/30/2003 12:00:33 PM Subject: Re: [ZION] Thought for the day I want to know more about how to get more diabetic products because I can't find them in my local supermarket. Stacy. At 03:01 PM 09/30

Re: [ZION] For Stacy other diabetics (wuz: Thought for the day

2003-10-01 Thread Stacy Smith
I hadn't thought about sugar free cold medicines. Well, gee, thanks. I have a lot to learn. I already know where to order the special kind of strips I need and the special lancet holders, etc. I have a talking glucometer so I guess I don't need advice about that either. No, I'm looking

Re: [ZION] Boyd K. Packer art exhibit

2003-10-01 Thread R. Kent Francis
Kent Francis says: My wife and I went to the opening of the Boyd K Packer Art exhibit at the Church Art museum west of Temple square... it was incredible. There are about 70 pieces ranging from when he was a kid just learning thru his latest sculptures... the whole thing is very well done.

Re: [ZION] For Stacy other diabetics

2003-10-01 Thread R. Kent Francis
Kent Francis writes: I went thru all the medications for a year e.g. Glucophage (Metformin HCL) 500 mg 3 per day- to increase insulin sensitivity in the muscle tissues decreases liver production - one of the oldest and most effective drugs Lipitor (Atorvastatin) 10 mg 1 per day lowers

Re: [ZION] For Stacy other diabetics

2003-10-01 Thread Stacy Smith
Gosh, no carbs at all! I tried protein only in the morning and felt so sluggish and couldn't concentrate. Imagine how I'd feel if I did that all day! Well, you may have something but I hope I could really live like that. God will really have to help me. I have cut down but not out. Stacy.

Re: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-30 Thread mormonyoyoman
PROTECTED] wrote: And isn't it amazing to think that this entire thread all started out with some chocolate! Chocolate makes everything better! Jon - Original Message - From: Chet Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 4:31 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] Thought

Re: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-30 Thread Jon Spencer
, September 30, 2003 7:25 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] Thought for the day Either Brother Jon is trying to make me paranoid, or there are a LOT of Zion posts that haven't made their way to my laptop. WHAT discussion about chocolate??? *jeep! ~~Chet If ya thinks ya is right, ya deserfs credit

Re: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-30 Thread mormonyoyoman
That IS a nice thought (even for a diabetic). And, nope, I didn't get that post. And it is strange how far off-topic we got. Who knows where it will lead this time? (Does anyone else have this problem -- beginning sentences with conjunctions? I never had this habit until after studying the

Re: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-30 Thread Stacy Smith
I want to know more about how to get more diabetic products because I can't find them in my local supermarket. Stacy. At 03:01 PM 09/30/2003 +, you wrote: That IS a nice thought (even for a diabetic). And, nope, I didn't get that post. And it is strange how far off-topic we got. Who

Re: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-29 Thread Jon Spencer
And isn't it amazing to think that this entire thread all started out with some chocolate! Chocolate makes everything better! Jon - Original Message - From: Chet Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 4:31 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] Thought

Re: [ZION] error?

2003-09-28 Thread Paul Osborne
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:36:22 -0500 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought you were an apologist. Stacy. Yes, in a manner of speaking. I do have website called, My Attack on antiMormonism http://www.myegyptology.net/file/home.htm which I do just for fun. I mainly concentrate on

Re: [ZION] error?

2003-09-28 Thread Stacy Smith
Hey, I like your site and will continue to look at it when I have time. For the article on blood atonement I would also suggest adding passages from the Old Testament where it was commanded to kill the offenders. Talk about Korah, Dathan and Abiram. (Excuse spelling.) Talk about other

Re: [ZION] error?

2003-09-28 Thread Stacy Smith
I decided to add an addendum reply onto this message. I am indeed sorry to hear that the church is just announcing or seeming to announce that the papyri was indeed a funeral text. I also understand that not all the papyri can be traced because some of it was burned. It could be that Joseph

Re: [ZION] error?

2003-09-28 Thread George Cobabe
that get on and cause disenstion among the participants. George - Original Message - From: Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 7:17 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] error? On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:18:44 -0600 (GMT-06 George Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-27 Thread mormonyoyoman
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will have to say that I think JWR's email was woefully lacking in details on the new baby...maybe it's a female thing, but...is this a grandson or a granddaughter? What is the baby's name? Heidi the fair There was an original e-mail from JWR? Never saw it.

Re: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-27 Thread Valerie Nielsen Williams
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 14:10:16 GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will have to say that I think JWR's email was woefully lacking in details on the new baby...maybe it's a female thing, but...is this a grandson or a granddaughter? What is the baby's name? Heidi

Re: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-27 Thread John W. Redelfs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will have to say that I think JWR's email was woefully lacking in details on the new baby...maybe it's a female thing, but...is this a grandson or a granddaughter? What is the baby's name? This new baby is my first grandchild. She is the firstborn of my second

Re: [ZION] Congratulations, John and Another Note About Mail

2003-09-27 Thread mormonyoyoman
It's entirely possible, Stacy. However, I had the same trouble with Topica (with Zion and with other lists) when I had my MSN account and my MStar account. *jeep! ~~Chet If ya thinks ya is right, ya deserfs credit - even if ya is wrong. Gus Segar via Popeye -- Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [ZION] error?

2003-09-27 Thread Stacy Smith
This is very interesting. It implies that God doesn't always correct error for his purposes. Stacy. At 08:26 PM 09/27/2003 -0500, you wrote: How does the lonely Mormon apologist, Paul Osborne, square with the fact (based on evidence) that the prophet Joseph Smith incorrectly thought the

Re: [ZION] error?

2003-09-27 Thread Paul Osborne
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:16:56 -0500 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is very interesting. It implies that God doesn't always correct error for his purposes. Stacy. Something like that. I had to come up with something for my website. I've been deep into this stuff for a good

Re: [ZION] error?

2003-09-27 Thread Stacy Smith
I don't remember. Are you on FAIR or affiliated with them? Stacy. At 09:21 PM 09/27/2003 -0500, you wrote: On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:16:56 -0500 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is very interesting. It implies that God doesn't always correct error for his purposes. Stacy.

Re: [ZION] error?

2003-09-27 Thread Paul Osborne
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:47:14 -0500 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't remember. Are you on FAIR or affiliated with them? Stacy. I got booted from FAIR but have since returned under the name of Truth and they are allowing me too stay because I am being nicer and not shoving

Re: [ZION] Trouble with Topica

2003-09-27 Thread Grampa Bill in Savannah
Stacy Smith wrote: I wonder if it works best only with Outlook or Outlook Express? However, I use Eudora, so that puts another thing in the mix. === Grampa Bill comments: I use Mozilla. I always assume if I ain't read it, it's 'cause you ain't sent it! Love

Re: [ZION] error?

2003-09-27 Thread Stacy Smith
Well, can you answer me another question which I am very curious about? You know that many years ago the book and film THE GOD MAKERS was aptly refuted by the book THE TRUTH ABOUT THE GOD MAKERS. I liked the way in which this author did his refutation, even though I found fault with some of

Re: [ZION] error?

2003-09-27 Thread Paul Osborne
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:25:24 -0500 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, can you answer me another question which I am very curious about? I have not read either of the Godmaker books. I'm careful not to read to much antiMormon material because it is depressing and does not edify at

Re: [ZION] error?

2003-09-27 Thread Stacy Smith
Nothing yet. I only read chapter 1 and 2 of SHADOW OR REALITY and I wasn't too impressed with their arguments but I admit it would have been difficult to exactly write a response. Most of it sounded rather silly to me. Stacy. At 10:33 PM 09/27/2003 -0500, you wrote: On Sat, 27 Sep 2003

RE: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-23 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 12:59 PM 9/22/2003, you wrote: Steven Montgomery wrote: At 08:44 AM 9/22/2003, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Works for me! Especially if it's Dove or Lindt chocolate! My favorite is Cadbury Royal Dark. In fact, I like them so much that I just bought 15 bars and a Rubbermaid container

Re: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread Jon Spencer
Stacy Smith wrote: Not for a diabetic. What? You never heard of sucralose? Jon Thought for the Day: A nice box of chocolate can provide your entire daily intake of calories in one place. Isn't that handy? Jon

RE: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread hkpage
Works for me! Especially if it's Dove or Lindt chocolate! By the way, Job...aren't you in North Carolina? If so, did you sustain any damage from Isabel? Heidi [Original Message] From: Jon Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: zion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 9/21/2003 9:12:31 PM Subject: [ZION]

RE: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread John W. Redelfs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Works for me! Especially if it's Dove or Lindt chocolate! My favorite is Cadbury Royal Dark. In fact, I like them so much that I just bought 15 bars and a Rubbermaid container to keep them in. They sell them here in Juneau; but when I get back to Ketchikan, I won't

RE: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 08:44 AM 9/22/2003, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Works for me! Especially if it's Dove or Lindt chocolate! My favorite is Cadbury Royal Dark. In fact, I like them so much that I just bought 15 bars and a Rubbermaid container to keep them in. They sell them here in Juneau; but when I

RE: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 09:38 AM 9/22/2003 -0500, the amazing Heidi the Fair wrote: Works for me! Especially if it's Dove or Lindt chocolate! By the way, Job...aren't you in North Carolina? If so, did you sustain any damage from Isabel? Heidi is now in correspondence with a real hero. Shall we all sit and give

RE: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread hkpage
Hey, it's Monday...it's rainy...I didn't use my spellchecker... :-) Heidi (who almost just typo'ed her own name!) [Original Message] From: Elmer L. Fairbank [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 9/22/2003 9:53:07 AM Subject: RE: [ZION] Thought for the day At 09:38 AM 9/22/2003

RE: [ZION] Crying Babies

2003-09-22 Thread hkpage
I was able to do this with my own kids, though it was hard at first. When our first child was born, we were given a book, the title of which went something like How to help your child sleep through the night, or words to that effect. It was written by a Dr. Ferber out of Boston, and he advocated

RE: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 08:50 AM 9/22/2003 -0600, St Steven wrote: At 08:44 AM 9/22/2003, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Works for me! Especially if it's Dove or Lindt chocolate! My favorite is Cadbury Royal Dark. In fact, I like them so much that I just bought 15 bars and a Rubbermaid container to keep them

RE: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 09:58 AM 9/22/2003 -0500, Hei..y the Fair wrote: Hey, it's Monday...it's rainy...I didn't use my spellchecker... :-) Heidi (who almost just typo'ed her own name!) We're afraid to ask, so don't tell. Till // ///

RE: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread John W. Redelfs
Steven Montgomery wrote: At 08:44 AM 9/22/2003, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Works for me! Especially if it's Dove or Lindt chocolate! My favorite is Cadbury Royal Dark. In fact, I like them so much that I just bought 15 bars and a Rubbermaid container to keep them in. They sell them

Re: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread Jon Spencer
Subject: RE: [ZION] Thought for the day Works for me! Especially if it's Dove or Lindt chocolate! By the way, Job...aren't you in North Carolina? If so, did you sustain any damage from Isabel? Heidi [Original Message] From: Jon Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: zion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date

Re: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread Jon Spencer
Stacy Smith wrote: No, what is it? (sucralose) Sucralose is the trade name for the stereoisomer of normal sucrose (table sugar). It tastes the same as regular sugar, but is not processed by the body. Your taste buds can't tell the difference (but perhaps your pocketbook can!). If I remember

Re: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread Stacy Smith
Where does one get it? Are these candies? Stacy. At 04:38 PM 09/22/2003 -0400, you wrote: Stacy Smith wrote: No, what is it? (sucralose) Sucralose is the trade name for the stereoisomer of normal sucrose (table sugar). It tastes the same as regular sugar, but is not processed by the body.

Re: [ZION] Steven E. Robinson: Is This A Forbidden Topic?

2003-09-22 Thread John W. Redelfs
Stacy Smith wrote: Hi. I see that my question about the books has tactfully been avoided. Is this author off limits to Zion? I haven't commented on the books because I have not read them. But I own BELIEVING CHRIST and intend to read it eventually. Brother Robinson is a religion professor

Re: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread hkpage
: Re: [ZION] Thought for the day Where does one get it? Are these candies? Stacy. At 04:38 PM 09/22/2003 -0400, you wrote: Stacy Smith wrote: No, what is it? (sucralose) Sucralose is the trade name for the stereoisomer of normal sucrose (table sugar). It tastes the same as regular

Re: [ZION] Thought for the day

2003-09-22 Thread Jon Spencer
are now made with sucralose. More companies will gradually start to use this product as more people complain of the side effects of NutraSweet. Jon - Original Message - From: Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [ZION

Re: [ZION] working woman

2003-09-21 Thread Stacy Smith
] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 12:55 PM Subject: RE: [ZION] working woman Stacy Smith wrote: I wish I could work at all. The Department of Rehabilitation in this county has evaluated me and decided I am unemployable. This is no laughing matter for me and has caused me

Re: [ZION] confiding in bishops

2003-09-21 Thread Paul Osborne
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 00:14:53 + Jim Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Counsel with the bishop is a standard answer. As a problem solving strategy, it usually doesn't work at all, at least in my experience. Bishops don't have effective answers for any but the most routine

Re: [ZION] apostate working women {was}working woman

2003-09-21 Thread Paul Osborne
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 00:32:53 + Jim Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am not offering the least criticism to women who work out of necessity. Good. Let's keep it that way. No one made you the judge. Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [ZION] apostate working women {was}working woman

2003-09-21 Thread Grampa Bill in Savannah
Paul Osborne wrote: I'm just expressing my view when white collar men grumble out of their lips against the woes of blue collar men and how they can supposedly fix their low income problems. The fact is, many white collar men are ignorant and lack real experience when it comes to blue collar

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