[Zope-dev] Changelog formatting [was: SVN: cmf.pt/trunk/ Preparing release.]

2008-12-21 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Malthe Borch wrote: Log message for revision 94141: Preparing release. Changed: U cmf.pt/trunk/CHANGES.txt U cmf.pt/trunk/setup.py -=- Modified: cmf.pt/trunk/CHANGES.txt === --- cmf.pt/trunk/CHANGES.txt

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.sendmail/trunk/ Copied over the UtilityTerm and UtilityVocabulary implementation from zope.app.component to avoid a dependency.

2008-11-15 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Hanno Schlichting wrote: Benji York wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Hanno Schlichting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Log message for revision 92953: Copied over the UtilityTerm and UtilityVocabulary implementation from zope.app.component to avoid a dependency. Instead of duplicating the

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12 features

2008-11-04 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On Nov 4, 2008, at 13:59 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: If I'm not mistaken there was something about every release being supported two years after its initial release in those discussions. But time went on, we haven't sticked to a time-based release schedule and those

Re: [Zope-dev] zc.relationship 1.0.2 typo bug

2008-11-03 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Rudá Porto Filgueiras wrote: I found a typo bug in zc.relationship 1.0.2 (pypi and svn tag 1.02). It's fixed in trunk but not backported and plone.app.relations-1.0b2 unittest found this bug. Thanks for the bug report and the patch. Could you please report it at

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.app.container won't compile

2008-10-20 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Andreas Jung wrote: On 19.10.2008 14:14 Uhr, Andreas Jung wrote: On 19.10.2008 14:04 Uhr, Roger Ineichen wrote: Hi Andreas Betreff: [Zope-dev] zope.app.container won't compile A buildout fails reproducable both on Mac and Linux...how is the guilty? Same on windows with Python 2.4. I

Re: [Zope-dev] Need help - wrong hierarchy on svn.zope.org

2008-10-20 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
kevin gill wrote: I need a little help. I checked two packages into svn.zope.org, but I have set up the hierarchy incorrectly. The packages are z3c.rotterdam and z3c.boston. The egg is in the base folder, rather than in 'trunk'. I would appreciate it if someone with administration access

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.app.container won't compile

2008-10-19 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Andreas Jung wrote: A trunk checkout compiles cleanly on Python 2.4: Sidnei checked in a fix for this problem on Thursday. I assume this made it into zope.app.container 3.6.1 released on October 15th: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zope.app.container So why won't this version build with

Re: [Zope-dev] traversal: different with and without a request

2008-10-17 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
El 17 Oct 2008, a las 10:37 , Christian Theune escribió: There is a process that actually needs the request and this process is what I call traversal: breaking down a URL and finding a publishable object. zope.traversing has (almost) nothing to do with it, the real kind of traversal happens

Re: [Zope-dev] traversal: different with and without a request

2008-10-17 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
El 17 Oct 2008, a las 15:02 , Jim Fulton escribió: First of all, its name is quite misleading. It should really be called 'zope.resolvepath' because it resolves TALES-like object paths. In fact, it's pretty much only used by the PageTemplate machinery to hook it up to the TALES

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12 - supported Python versions

2008-10-15 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Hanno Schlichting wrote: Stephan Richter wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2008, Sidnei da Silva wrote: I don't want to rain on your parade, but I already did a first pass at reviewing the changes in Python 2.5 and Python 2.6. There are no significant changes that I could spot so far. Apparently

Re: [Zope-dev] traversal: different with and without a request

2008-10-15 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Christian Theune wrote: we stumbled over an annoyance that took a while to debug: Writing an ITraversable, we used zope.traversing.api.traverse() in a test to verify our code. We registered the ITraversable as an (non-multi) adapter and ended up with a working test. In the actual system,

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.interface: verifyObject vs properties

2008-10-15 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Thomas Lotze wrote: Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would change it to just use getattr rather than hasattr. try: getattr(ob, name) except AttributeError: return False ... This doesn't handle the case that the attribute exists as a property but raises an AttributeError

Re: [Zope-dev] traversal: different with and without a request

2008-10-15 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
El 15 Oct 2008, a las 19:24 , Shane Hathaway escribió: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: First of all, its name is quite misleading. It should really be called 'zope.resolvepath' because it resolves TALES-like object paths. In fact, it's pretty much only used by the PageTemplate machinery

Re: [Zope] [Off-Topic] KSS ugly?

2008-10-13 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Encolpe Degoute wrote: Dieter Maurer a écrit : Garito wrote at 2008-10-8 14:22 +0200: I'm agree with you, Tino. Plone has a lot of ugly features (as KSS, for instance) Why is KSS ugly? Reading the documentation, I found it quite attractive That is what KSS opponents atr thinking:

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.x for Py 2.6 as 64 bit Windows application?

2008-10-12 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're contemplating the move of our Zope 2.x application to 64-bit Windows. We rely on a few add-on packages, notably PyWin, which has 64-bit support for Py 2.6 only. I'd be grateful for a rough idea on when there could be a Zope 2.x release working with Python 2.6

Re: [Zope-dev] Python 2.6: 'with' in Interfaces

2008-10-08 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Marius Gedminas wrote: On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 12:35:39AM -0300, Sidnei da Silva wrote: Trying to run some tests with Python 2.6 I stumbled on a problem that I need help with: an interface that has an attribute named 'with'. The interface in question is defined in zope.app.component.back35:

Re: [Zope-dev] Relative Imports: PEP-328

2008-10-08 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
El 8 Oct 2008, a las 14:23 , Sidnei da Silva escribió: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Philipp von Weitershausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sidnei da Silva wrote: I'm trying to fix some import errors, which seem to be related to PEP-328. I'm fixing those errors this way, though I don't

Re: [Zope-dev] Relative Imports: PEP-328

2008-10-08 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Sidnei da Silva wrote: I'm trying to fix some import errors, which seem to be related to PEP-328. I'm fixing those errors this way, though I don't know if that's the recommended way of fixing it. Thoughts? try: from DT_Util import parse_params, name_param except ImportError: #

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: adding support for testing from bare setuptools

2008-09-17 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Marius Gedminas wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:52:49PM -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: Proposal Instead, what I *am* proposing is adding metadata which allows consumers of such packages to verify that the package is downloaded / installed correctly. In particular, I want for the

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.component: calling an Interface and calling queryAdapter give differing results

2008-09-09 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
El 9 Sep 2008, a las 20:37 , Dieter Maurer escribió: Chris Withers wrote at 2008-9-8 18:34 +0100: ... There's the backward-compatibility issue, which is a showstopper. There's plenty of code that does this: adapter = package.interfaces.IFoo(object, None) Changing the signature as you

Re: [Zope-dev] Dependencies and future of zope 3

2008-09-03 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Benji York wrote: On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For several packages we took the following approach. Most packages that have browser packages are in zope.app; for example, zope.app.folder (we did not convert this package yet). We then took the API

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.component: calling an Interface and calling queryAdapter give differing results

2008-09-01 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
El 30 Aug 2008, a las 07:50 , Dieter Maurer escribió: Chris Withers wrote at 2008-8-29 10:25 +0100: Dieter Maurer wrote: Then, we could get rid of the {get|query}[Multi]Adapter altogether and consistently use I() with appropriate optional parameters -- what a simplification and

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.component: calling an Interface and calling queryAdapter give differing results

2008-09-01 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
El 1 Sep 2008, a las 17:23 , Chris Withers escribió: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: I've personally thought for some time that it would be quite nice if all you had to do was call an interface to look up a utility (which is sort of a multi-adapter of order 0) or to do some kind

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.component: calling an Interface and calling queryAdapter give differing results

2008-09-01 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
El 1 Sep 2008, a las 19:26 , Dieter Maurer escribió: Chris Withers wrote at 2008-9-1 16:23 +0100: ... auth = IAuthentication() # utility auth = IAuthentication(default=None) langs = IUserPreferredLanguages(request) # adapter langs =

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testbrowser.testing.Browser has undefined dependencies

2008-08-21 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Chris Withers wrote: I'm just starting to play with zope.testbrowser's testing.Browser but I notice that is uses the following packages: transaction zope.app.testing zope.app.folder zope.app.component ...but zope.testbrowser doesn't declare any dependency on these. It does, using the

Re: [Zope-dev] ZODB3 3.9.0-dev-r77011 egg?!

2008-08-19 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Chris Withers wrote: Why does the egg in the subject line exist Because somebody made it and uploaded it to download.zope.org. It probably happened during the initial eggification period when we didn't have a solid release process [1]. and why does buildout pick it over a stable release?

Re: [Zope-dev] [zopeproject] ZODB3 specified, but ZODB3 3.9.0-dev-r77011 egg still attempted?!

2008-08-19 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Chris Withers wrote: Okay, So I bumped into the ZODB3 3.9.0-dev-r77011 problem while trying to get going with zopeproject. zopeproject created a buildout.cfg in my test project, so I thought I'd lock ZODB to 3.8.0 to prevent problems: [buildout] develop = . parts = app test

Re: [Zope-dev] ZODB3 3.9.0-dev-r77011 egg?!

2008-08-19 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
El 19 Aug 2008, a las 12:05 , Chris Withers escribió: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: and why does buildout pick it over a stable release? Because buildout, like easy_install, will pick the newest available version for a distribution. Fortunately, buildout has a prefer- stable option so

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.component: calling an Interface and calling queryAdapter give differing results

2008-08-19 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Shane Hathaway wrote: Chris Withers wrote: From a user's perspective, this makes no sense: from zope.interface import implements,Interface from zope.component import queryAdapter class ISomething(Interface): pass ... class MyClass: implements(ISomething) ... m = MyClass()

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 4 OK, 1 Unknown

2008-08-16 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Zope Tests Summarizer wrote: Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Fri Aug 15 11:00:00 2008 UTC to Sat Aug 16 11:00:00 2008 UTC. There were 5 messages: 5 from Zope Tests. Unknown --- Subject: UNKNOWN :

[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/trunk/lib/python/Products/PythonScripts/PythonScript.py Merge Maurits's r89745 as well: Proper English spelling of cannot.

2008-08-12 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Log message for revision 89760: Merge Maurits's r89745 as well: Proper English spelling of cannot. Changed: U Zope/trunk/lib/python/Products/PythonScripts/PythonScript.py -=- Modified: Zope/trunk/lib/python/Products/PythonScripts/PythonScript.py

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.app.form: Make no value always available?

2008-08-12 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Thomas Lotze wrote: zope.app.form items edit widgets don't provide the no value value if the corresponding field is required. While this prevents invalid input, it means that e.g. a drop-down box may then have one of the valid values pre-selected. If user forgets to change that value, he could

Re: [Zope] Script (Python) insecure ?

2008-08-12 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Thanks a lot for taking care of these issues, Andreas! Andreas Jung wrote: --On 12. August 2008 16:05:47 +0200 Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --On 12. August 2008 14:16:44 +0200 Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *sigh* I wished that both exploits were reported to

[Zope] Re: Page Template help

2008-08-11 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Garito wrote: Could someone point me where the page template code decide if an expression is a path expression or a string or python one, please? I'm studying the zope page template classes and I would like to understand where this decision is taken

Re: [Zope] Page Template help

2008-08-11 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Garito wrote: Use: /path/to/the/object/with/${some/magic/variables}/to/solve/some/paths/in/a/simplest/way Path expressions already support this. tal:define=pathel some/magic/variables; objpath/to/the/object/with/?pathel/to/solve/some/... So basically in TALES path

Re: [Zope] Page Template help

2008-08-11 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Garito wrote: Considere this case: I have the sking value in the variable at args/Yanged/Skin How can I do the equivalent to args/Yanged/raiz/Skins/${args/Yanged/Skin}/arbolYanged.css/absolute_url ? In the python way it will be: path(path('string:' +

Re: [Zope] Page Template help

2008-08-11 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Garito wrote: Finally it's possible to do what I need without the need to declare any variable? Not that I know of. If not my change will be 4-6 lines of code and it's ok for me to make this change I only need to understand were the code decides if the expression is standard, string

[Zope] Disable configuration of 3rd party packages with z3c.unconfigure

2008-08-08 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
When relying on a third-party package with ZCML configuration, it is sometimes desirable to disable certain directives, for instance when the third-party package defines an event subscriber that you'd like to disable. This is now possible with z3c.unconfigure. While zope.configuration (the

[Zope-dev] Re: zope.app.authentication and zope.app.container broken doctests

2008-08-07 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Wichert Akkerman wrote: I've re-tagged and reuploaded new versions zope.app.container 3.5.6 and zope.app.authentication 3.4.3. This should be ok. Re-uploading is very problematic: if anyone has the previous version in their buildout download cache they will never get the new version. I prefer

[Zope-dev] Re: zcml filtering

2008-08-06 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Marius Gedminas wrote: On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 10:36:30PM +0100, Martin Aspeli wrote: Subscribers and subscription adapters are particularly bad in this way, since they are unnamed and thus can't be overridden, only amended to. We've talked about an off switch for ZCML before. Given that we

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zcml filtering

2008-08-06 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
El 6 Aug 2008, a las 16:47 , Stephan Richter escribió: On Wednesday 06 August 2008, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: I'm working on a package for this functionality in z3c.unconfigure right now. Name inspired by Martin's suggestion above; my original prototype used had a different name

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zcml filtering

2008-08-06 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
El 6 Aug 2008, a las 17:17 , Roger Ineichen escribió: I'm +1 on zc.configuration. z3c.unconfigure, however, will contain zope.component specific code to unconfigure subscribers (which currently have no useful discriminator). So it's a hack to make it work with existing Zope code out there. If

[Zope-dev] Re: configuring global utilities in zcml

2008-08-05 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Chris Withers wrote: Nikolay Kim wrote: you can create utility in python file and then use component= for example utility.py: class Utility(object): pass myUtility = Utility() configure.zcml: utility name=myUtility component=.utility.myUtility / I'm aware of this but it kind of

[Zope-dev] Re: configuring global utilities in zcml

2008-08-05 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Chris Withers wrote: Nikolay Kim wrote: I'm aware of this but it kind of defeats the idea of seperating code and configuration... So, other ideas? create new zcml directive. That seems pretty heavyweight :-/ It's not. It's in fact relatively easy to write a custom utility directive

[Zope-dev] Please no version numbers in setup.py [was: SVN: Zope2.buildout/tags/2.11.1/setup.py Pin / fix up dependencies based on comparison with monolith.]

2008-08-05 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Tres Seaver wrote: Log message for revision 89399: Pin / fix up dependencies based on comparison with monolith. Thanks for picking this up! I do, however, strongly object to pinning versions of dependencies in setup.py like this. What's the point of eggifying Zope 2 in the first place

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: bad zope.size to remove from PyPI

2008-08-02 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
El 2 Aug 2008, a las 17:45 , Chris Withers escribió: Benji York wrote: In case anybody's wondering how this complies with our no removal of any release whatsoever policy [1], be assured that a 3.4dev-r73090 thing isn't a release by our standards. This version number not only contains the

[Zope-dev] Re: bad zope.size to remove from PyPI

2008-08-01 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Christophe Combelles wrote: could someone remove this package from the PyPI : http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zope.size/3.4dev-r73090 This is an empty development version, considered more recent by PyPI than the latest released version 3.4.0. (which is r78211) Done. In case anybody's wondering

[Zope-dev] Re: [Checkins] SVN: zope.release/branches/3.4/ * Added latest version of zope.app.security to avoid deprecation

2008-08-01 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Christophe Combelles wrote: Stephan Richter a écrit : On Friday 01 August 2008, Christophe Combelles wrote: Did you miss the CHANGES.txt in zope.release ? We have two histories now. Nope, but that file tracks the package -- source code -- changes of zope.release. I wanted a separate file

[Zope-dev] Re: Running the 3.4 KGS tests: 9 fail, 6 errors

2008-07-27 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Shane Hathaway wrote: Marius Gedminas wrote: I think I'll run the test suite again on a 64-bit Linux machine, for extra fun. And maybe do that for Python 2.4 as well. zope.proxy and related modules failed badly under 64 bit Python 2.5 until I fixed the C code on the trunk 2 weeks ago,

[Zope-dev] Re: Utility factory handling for zope.component

2008-07-23 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Stephan Richter wrote: On Wednesday 23 July 2008, Wichert Akkerman wrote: If there are no objections I intend to merge the branch to trunk in a few days I am uncomfortable with the way you approached this. I think there are at least two other possibilities

[Zope-dev] Please use 'svn mv'

2008-07-18 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
I would like to remind everyone that when you do refactorings and move code around, to please use 'svn mv' or 'svn cp'. For instance, when you split a large file into two smaller ones, use 'svn cp' to create the second file and then remove stuff from it that doesn't go there. That way, version

[Zope-dev] Re: how many checkin lists?!

2008-07-16 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Chris Withers wrote: Hi All, Just me, or is it excessive that we have: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-checkins/ This one is obsolete now. http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-checkins/ This one is for Zope 2 only. http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/checkins/ This one covers the

[Zope-dev] Re: [Plone-developers] PAULA: bringing Zope 3's authentication to Plone and beyond

2008-07-16 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Tres Seaver wrote: Mark Hammond wrote: Well, Zope moved onwards from PAS to PAU I doubt that seriously: I would venture that there are two orders of magnitude more users of PAS than PAU in production deployments. PAU was an attempt to port the PAS to a component-centric implementation, but

[Zope-dev] Re: No events in zope.annotation

2008-07-16 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Stephan Richter wrote: Hi everyone, I just tried to create a catalog for an annotation and noticed that it does not get filled. Digging around in the zope.annotation package, I noticed that the zope.annotation package does not send out any object events. This sucks. ;-) Thus I propose: -

[Zope-dev] Re: No events in zope.annotation

2008-07-16 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Stephan Richter wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2008, Fred Drake wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thus I propose: - Add ObjectCreatedEvent event notification to zope.annotation factory call. By this, I presume you mean the stuff in

[Zope] Re: Deployment Best Practices?

2008-07-13 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Jeff McNeil wrote: That's not all that obvious to someone new to the Zope system. Most of the documentation I've found is geared towards the 2.x branch. As Zope 3 and Zope 2 are different animals, I wouldn't think that the deployment steps and recommendations would be all that similar. With

[Zope] Re: Deployment Best Practices?

2008-07-13 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Paul Winkler wrote: On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 01:20:53PM -0400, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Jeff McNeil wrote: I'd love to be able to just drop an egg on the file system and tell Zope Here, go load that one now via configuration alone. You could also write your own ZCML directive

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope3 installation on windows - how?

2008-07-10 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Hermann Himmelbauer wrote: And there's once again this mingw32 problem. 4) Next, I tried zopeproject: $ easy_install zopeproject $ zopeproject HelloWorld First, zopeproject does not install the packages into the Python site-packages, That's *intended*. That's, in fact, much better than

[Zope-dev] Re: [Plone-developers] PAULA: bringing Zope 3's authentication to Plone and beyond

2008-07-10 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Florian Friesdorf wrote: Hi *, within the scope of google summer of code I am integrating zope 3's PAU with Plone's PAS and further enable (non-AT) content objects as source for users and groups. All functionality is developed in pure zope3, the plone

[Zope-dev] Re: PAULA: bringing Zope 3's authentication to Plone and beyond

2008-07-10 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Florian Friesdorf wrote: Hi *, within the scope of google summer of code I am integrating zope 3's PAU with Plone's PAS and further enable (non-AT) content objects as source for users

[Zope] Re: I wonder why class constructor is never in apidoc ?

2008-07-07 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
KLEIN Stéphane wrote: I wonder why class constructor is never in apidoc ? Because nobody has bothered to implement this feature. Patches are welcome :) Are there something in OOP concept I haven't understand ? I don't know what you mean with this.

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout on Windows

2008-06-22 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
El 21 Jun 2008, a las 20:15 , Chris Withers escribió: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: This isn't a matter of a binary zope.proxy egg. If you look at the 'zope2' part of your buildout.cfg, you'll see it's actually trying to compile Zope 2 itself (which happens to contain the zope.proxy

[Zope-dev] Re: buildout on Windows

2008-06-22 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Martin Aspeli wrote: Chris Withers wrote: Hey All, I'm trying to run a plone-ish buildout on Windows for a customer, currently getting this: creating zope.proxy copying zope/proxy\proxy.h - zope.proxy error: Python was built with Visual Studio 2003; extensions must be built with a compiler

[Zope-dev] Re: View component registration

2008-06-20 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Martijn Faassen wrote: One question is what to do for persistent registrations in local sites. I don't imagine they're used a lot, but it'd mean a content upgrade to re-register them, right? The only piece of software that, to my knowledge, can actually *make* local view registrations is

[Zope-dev] Re: buildout on Windows

2008-06-20 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Chris Withers wrote: Hey All, I'm trying to run a plone-ish buildout on Windows for a customer, currently getting this: creating zope.proxy copying zope/proxy\proxy.h - zope.proxy error: Python was built with Visual Studio 2003; extensions must be built with a compiler than can generate

[Zope-dev] Re: View component registration

2008-06-19 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
David Glick wrote: On Jun 18, 2008, at 1:44 PM, Malthe Borch wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: There's one major problem that I see. What's the backwards compatibility story? I'm sure there are a lot of cases in lots of code where people look up views with a getMultiAdapter, and if we started

[Zope-dev] Re: View component registration

2008-06-18 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Jim Fulton wrote: On Jun 18, 2008, at 4:31 PM, Malthe Borch wrote: Currently views are registered as components providing zope.interface.Interface; this is unfortunate since other kinds of components may use the same specification, namely (context, request). Right. This is a historical

[Zope-dev] Re: View component registration

2008-06-18 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Malthe Borch wrote: Currently views are registered as components providing zope.interface.Interface; this is unfortunate since other kinds of components may use the same specification, namely (context, request). An example of this is ``IAbsoluteURL``; it clashes with the resources view*.

[Zope-dev] Re: git mirror of svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main ?

2008-06-12 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: I was going to ask this question anyway, but perhaps it's more timely with the scheduled server move: Has anyone made a git clone of svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main suitable for public mirroring on github, etc.? Not that I know of, but there's a read-only SVN mirror:

[Zope] Re: Python instance growing while ZTC

2008-06-12 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Marco Bizzarri wrote: Hi all. Apologies in advance if my question has a somewhat obvious answer. I'm working on a Zope application, developed as a python product. I've ZTC in place for this application. While I run all the ZTC, I can see python process size growing. Can I use this as an

[Zope-dev] Re: buildbot failure in Zope on zope.pagetemplate

2008-06-07 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
These failures are due to recent changes to zope.tal (3.5.0) in which the TAL interpreter no longer emits a trailing newline character (and thus finally complies with its own spec). I've fixed this on the zope.pagetemplate trunk now. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Buildbot has detected a new

[Zope-dev] Re: buildbot failure in Zope on zope.app.twisted

2008-06-07 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
zope.app.twisted was missing a test dependency (zope.testbrowser) for a level 2 test. Fixed now. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Buildbot has detected a new failure of zope.app.twisted on Zope. Full details are available at: http://zopebuildbot.whq.gocept.com/zope.app.twisted/builds/97

[Zope-dev] Re: buildbot failure in Zope on zope.app.zptpage

2008-06-07 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Here, the same thing as with zope.pagetemplate happened. zope.tal no longer emits a trailing newline character. Fixed on the trunk. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Buildbot has detected a new failure of zope.app.zptpage on Zope. Full details are available at:

[Zope-dev] Re: Deciphering Zope Comments

2008-06-04 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Shane Hathaway wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to get a handle on Zope 3. I plan to take a bunch of Zope 3 modules and combine them in a new way. The goal is to create for myself a comfortable working environment that lets me run simple code in a small mod_wsgi environment with easy reloading

[Zope-dev] Re: Buildout parameter parsing

2008-06-03 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Malthe Borch wrote: I think a valuable extension to the parameter parsing in buildout's configuration language would be to allow += and -= operators, which would append and remove items, respectively. Example: [instance] eggs += Products.PDBDebugMode Singular or plural arguments would be

Re: [Zope] Re: PageTemplates len() of unsized object

2008-06-02 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 2 Jun 2008, at 20:44 , Dieter Maurer wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote at 2008-5-28 21:52 +0200: Dieter Maurer wrote: 2008-05-24T09:31:32 ERROR Zope.SiteErrorLog http://myurl/error_log/manage_main Traceback (innermost last): Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 119, in publish Module

[Zope] Re: PageTemplates len() of unsized object

2008-05-28 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Dieter Maurer wrote: Giampiero Benvenuti wrote at 2008-5-24 11:47 +0200: ... after the upgrade from zope2.9.7 to 2.10.6 i get this error in the event log: 2008-05-24T09:31:32 ERROR Zope.SiteErrorLog http://myurl/error_log/manage_main Traceback (innermost last): Module ZPublisher.Publish,

[Zope] Re: dtml-tree documentation

2008-05-26 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Andreas Jung wrote: Is there a complete documentation of the dtml-tree tag anywhere? The dtml reference of the Zope book has the following for some options: This attribute is for advanced usage only Where can I find out about this 'advanced usage'? Using DTML and related DTML tags is like

[Zope-dev] Re: Five registerPackage results in unresolved ConflictError

2008-05-20 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Believe something very very rotten in Five's registerPackage was fixed by Rocky in r72986 [1]. As far as I can tell this was never merged to the 1.4 branch, but I could we wrong. [1] http://svn.zope.org/?rev=72986view=rev Sasha Vincic wrote: Forgot to say that this is Zope 2.9.8, Five 1.4

[Zope-dev] Re: zope.testing console script

2008-05-15 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Tarek Ziadé wrote: If nothing exists, I would like to suggest adding a setuptools console entry point in zope.testing setup.py file, to get a python script in the $PYTHON/bin folder, exactly like what zc.recipe.testrunner does. +1 It could be called zope.testrunner maybe ? (nose= nostests,

[Zope-dev] Re: NotFound

2008-05-13 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Roger Ineichen wrote: Is there a reason why zope.publisher.interfaces.NotFound is not locatable? class NotFound(LookupError, TraversalException): implements(INotFound) def __init__(self, ob, name, request=None): self.ob = ob self.name = name Why should a NotFound

[Zope-dev] Re: i18nmessageid has a broken link

2008-05-13 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Sebastian Wehrmann wrote: the zope.i18nmessageid package has a broken link on http://download.zope.org/zope3.4/zope.i18nmessageid/ . The 'zope.i18nmessageid-3.4.3-py2.4-linux-i686.egg' does not exist any more on pypi. Right. It was deliberately removed because binary eggs should never ever

[Zope-dev] Re: i18nmessageid has a broken link

2008-05-13 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Maurits van Rees wrote: Without having tried pure Zope 3, only Grok --- I have been working on grokproject during the Grokkerdam sprint --- the following in buildout.cfg should work just as well: find-links = http://download.zope.org/distribution/ extends =

[Zope-dev] Re: Why I dislike narrative doctests

2008-04-25 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Lennart Regebro wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - If a file is documentation and a test, make sure it is good documentation. In that case, documentation comes first. Don't add so many tests that it ruins the documentation. - Test edge cases in

Re: [Zope.org Redux] Re: [Zope-dev] Let's fix the damned website

2008-04-21 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 21 Apr 2008, at 11:53 , Martin Aspeli wrote: - Projects gives an explanation of how the different Zope projects fit together (Zope 2, Zope 3, Grok, CMF, ZODB). Each is then given a subfolder that contains a standard structure: A front page that explains the project in more detail, Get

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2 eggification [was: Merge philikon-aq branch into Zope trunk]

2008-04-21 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 19 Apr 2008, at 22:39 , Chris McDonough wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Chris McDonough wrote: I wonder if Philipp would be amenable to writing a proposal on this, and get Chris McDonough's input. IMO, a Zope2 egg release should depend on the following packages: - 'ZODB3

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2 eggification [was: Merge philikon-aq branch into Zope trunk]

2008-04-19 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Chris McDonough wrote: I wonder if Philipp would be amenable to writing a proposal on this, and get Chris McDonough's input. IMO, a Zope2 egg release should depend on the following packages: - 'ZODB3' (already packaged) - 'transaction' (depended on by newer ZODBs) - 'ZConfig' (also depended

[Zope-dev] Re: Proposal: Merge philikon-aq branch into Zope trunk

2008-04-19 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Martijn Faassen wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: [snip] The second problem that might arise, is that the implicit assumption that every object inside Zope 2 inherits from Acquisition base classes no longer holds. Code that relies on the various aq_* attributes to be there need to be adjusted to use

[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/philikon-aq/lib/python/Products/Five/browser/pagetemplatefile.py Remember that Hanno's fix should probably be made in zope.app.pagetemplate.

2008-04-18 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Log message for revision 85467: Remember that Hanno's fix should probably be made in zope.app.pagetemplate. Changed: U Zope/branches/philikon-aq/lib/python/Products/Five/browser/pagetemplatefile.py -=- Modified:

[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/philikon-aq/lib/python/Products/Five/browser/tests/aqlegacy Improve doctest paragraph about calling templates that are instance variables.

2008-04-18 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Log message for revision 85468: Improve doctest paragraph about calling templates that are instance variables. Changed: U Zope/branches/philikon-aq/lib/python/Products/Five/browser/tests/aqlegacy.py U Zope/branches/philikon-aq/lib/python/Products/Five/browser/tests/aqlegacy.zcml

[Zope-dev] Re: Proposal: Merge philikon-aq branch into Zope trunk

2008-04-18 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Tres Seaver wrote: The second problem that might arise, is that the implicit assumption that every object inside Zope 2 inherits from Acquisition base classes no longer holds. Code that relies on the various aq_* attributes to be there need to be adjusted to use the Acquisition methods

[Zope-dev] Re: Proposal: Merge philikon-aq branch into Zope trunk

2008-04-17 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Hanno Schlichting wrote: Timeline: I would like to do the merge as soon as possible, so people can easily test it against all their applications and report back problems. Merging it into Zope trunk will get it into the Zope 2.12 release which is at this point not scheduled yet, but is

[Zope-dev] Re: AQ-Parent branch test failues was: Re: Five and browser-oriented components

2008-04-16 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Thanks for looking into this, Hanno! Here's my feedback: Hanno Schlichting wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: I kept my promise and added the simple tests for the first two issues I found while doing testing against Plone. I have meanwhile fixed the first trivial issue (conflicting argument

[Zope-dev] Re: AQ-Parent branch test failues was: Re: Five and browser-oriented components

2008-04-16 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: ViewPageTemplateFile etc. are only meant to be used as class attributes, never as instance attributes. This statement is also true for the current, acquisition-based one from Five. Is that documented anywhere? I can't seem

[Zope-dev] Re: Five and browser-oriented components

2008-04-14 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Malthe Borch wrote: On Z2, certain imports need to come from Products.Five, to play nicely with ZPublisher and friends. Not really. You can inherit from zope.publisher.browser.BrowserView and Five's browser:page / directive will magically slap Acquisition.Explicit into a newly-created

[Zope-dev] Re: Five and browser-oriented components

2008-04-14 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Aspeli wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: Technically, I think that this is going to be hard. You'd need to patch in the magic acquisition base class. Acquisition is the main reason that some of the code needed to be

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope 2.12] Eggification of Zope 2 - pros and cons?

2008-03-25 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Martin Aspeli wrote: I'm not sure this is all that useful. For Plone 4, we're just going to have a number of plone.*, plone.app.* and Products.* (and a few others, like kss.*) eggs that we can put in a KGS or version pin in a single Plone egg. For Plone 4

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope 2.12] Eggification of Zope 2 - pros and cons?

2008-03-25 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: during the latest 'zope.publisher' thread on zope-dev I came up with the proposal to eggify the Zope core for the Zope 2.12 release. I would like to start a discussion about the pros and cons, risks and advantages of any eggification effort

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope 2.12] Eggification of Zope 2 - pros and cons?

2008-03-24 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Andreas Jung wrote: during the latest 'zope.publisher' thread on zope-dev I came up with the proposal to eggify the Zope core for the Zope 2.12 release. I would like to start a discussion about the pros and cons, risks and advantages of any eggification effort. Chris favors a 'big' Zope egg

Re: [Zope-dev] more on stacked component registries

2008-02-07 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 5 Feb 2008, at 19:23 , Chris Withers wrote: Stephan Richter wrote: On Tuesday 15 January 2008, Chris Withers wrote: For what I'm after, I need to have a more dynamic buildup of registrations based on which objects have been traversed through. Right. I think the component architecture is not

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