Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-10-05 Thread Martijn Faassen
Carlos de la Guardia wrote: On 9/29/06, Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for the input. I wonder if anyone wants to volunteer to spearhead a track prototype for zope.org? One of the things I like about Launchpad is that I don't have to do any work. If someone is willing to step f

Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-10-04 Thread Carlos de la Guardia
On 9/29/06, Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for the input.  I wonder if anyone wants to volunteer tospearhead a track prototype for zope.org?  One of the things I likeabout Launchpad is that I don't have to do any work.  If someone is willing to step forward and commit to a Trac implem

Re: [ZF] Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-10-04 Thread Martijn Pieters
On 10/2/06, Marius Gedminas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've found Trac's anti-spam measures somewhat lacking. Having to learn sqlite's command line interface to remove anonymous spam comments from the bug tracker wasn't fun. Having to clean up spammed wiki page versions one at a time (10 pages

Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-10-02 Thread Carlos de la Guardia
On 10/1/06, Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does trac have any notionof sub-projects that would allow smallter efforts (e.g. zope.interface)to have their own collectors without creating separate trac installations?It depends on what you want. In trac you can define 'components', which in some

Re: [ZF] Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-10-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Martijn Faassen wrote: > That's indeed a point to worry about. I can confirm having run into a > spammed-to-death Trac in the path. Non-existant was a better description. This is not really a trac-specific problem though: any system which allows anonymous posting of content will suffer

Re: [ZF] Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-10-02 Thread Martijn Faassen
Marius Gedminas wrote: On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 09:52:34AM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: Thanks for the input. I wonder if anyone wants to volunteer to spearhead a track prototype for zope.org? One of the things I like about Launchpad is that I don't have to do any work. If someone is willing to s

Re: [ZF] Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-10-02 Thread Martijn Faassen
Martijn Faassen wrote: Sidnei da Silva wrote: On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 09:38:21AM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: | | Here are some quick Trac questions. My impression is that track projects | need to be set up as separate applications and that separate projects | can't be set up through the web. Is

Re: [ZF] Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-10-02 Thread Martijn Faassen
Sidnei da Silva wrote: On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 09:38:21AM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: | | Here are some quick Trac questions. My impression is that track projects | need to be set up as separate applications and that separate projects | can't be set up through the web. Is this right? All of that

Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-10-02 Thread Martijn Faassen
Carlos de la Guardia wrote: On 9/29/06, Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for the input. I wonder if anyone wants to volunteer to spearhead a track prototype for zope.org? One of the things I like about Launchpad is that I don't have to do any work. If someone is willing to step f

Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-10-02 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote: Thanks for the input. I wonder if anyone wants to volunteer to spearhead a track prototype for zope.org? One of the things I like about Launchpad is that I don't have to do any work. If someone is willing to step forward and commit to a Trac implementation, I'm happy to try

Re: [ZF] Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-10-01 Thread Sidnei da Silva
On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 09:38:21AM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: | | Here are some quick Trac questions. My impression is that track projects | need to be set up as separate applications and that separate projects | can't be set up through the web. Is this right? All of that is true AFAICT. | Does t

Re: [ZF] Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-10-01 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Sidnei da Silva wrote: > | This worries me a bit. Integration with svn seems to be a major > | selling point of track, but you haven't done that. I'd like to see > | a prototype that is actually integrated with our subversion repository. > | What would be necesary to make that happen?

Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-10-01 Thread Jim Fulton
Here are some quick Trac questions. My impression is that track projects need to be set up as separate applications and that separate projects can't be set up through the web. Is this right? Does trac have any notion of sub-projects that would allow smallter efforts (e.g. zope.interface) to hav

Re: [ZF] Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-10-01 Thread Sidnei da Silva
| This worries me a bit. Integration with svn seems to be a major | selling point of track, but you haven't done that. I'd like to see | a prototype that is actually integrated with our subversion repository. | What would be necesary to make that happen? Do you need actual access | to the local

Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-10-01 Thread Jim Fulton
Carlos de la Guardia wrote: On 9/29/06, *Jim Fulton* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Thanks for the input. I wonder if anyone wants to volunteer to spearhead a track prototype for zope.org ? One of the things I like about Launchpad is that

Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-10-01 Thread Jim Fulton
Carlos de la Guardia wrote: On 9/29/06, *Jim Fulton* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Thanks for the input. I wonder if anyone wants to volunteer to spearhead a track prototype for zope.org ? One of the things I like about Launchpad is that

Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-09-30 Thread Carlos de la Guardia
On 9/29/06, Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for the input.  I wonder if anyone wants to volunteer tospearhead a track prototype for zope.org?  One of the things I likeabout Launchpad is that I don't have to do any work.  If someone is willing to step forward and commit to a Trac implem

Re: Re: [ZF] Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-09-29 Thread Jeff Shell
On 9/29/06, Steve Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On a small aesthetics side, I find Launchpad's side bars incredibly >> distracting, and I don't like looking at the page because it feels >> like there are too many things vying for my attention and I have a >> hard time really reading th

Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-29 Thread Steve Alexander
> Finally, I'm experimenting with using launchpad for bugs: > > https://launchpad.net/products/zc.buildout/+bugs > > and feature requests: > > https://features.launchpad.net/products/zc.buildout/ > > So far this is working OK. I haven't really stressed it. Launchpad makes > this very easy

Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-09-29 Thread Steve Alexander
Martijn Faassen wrote: > > Before we move any issue collectors to launchpad, we need a bit more > experience with the launchpad issue tracker and its capabilities. The first couple of links on https://help.launchpad.net/ are to "Highlights of feature planning" and "Highlights of bug tracking" docu

Re: [ZF] Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-09-29 Thread Steve Alexander
>> On a small aesthetics side, I find Launchpad's side bars incredibly >> distracting, and I don't like looking at the page because it feels >> like there are too many things vying for my attention and I have a >> hard time really reading the text in front of me. The content gets >> squished. And

Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-09-29 Thread Jim Fulton
Thanks for the input. I wonder if anyone wants to volunteer to spearhead a track prototype for zope.org? One of the things I like about Launchpad is that I don't have to do any work. If someone is willing to step forward and commit to a Trac implementation, I'm happy to try it out. I'd like t

Re: Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-09-28 Thread Jeff Shell
On 9/25/06, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Baiju M wrote: > On 9/22/06, Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Finally, I'm experimenting with using launchpad for bugs: >> >>https://launchpad.net/products/zc.buildout/+bugs >> >> and feature requests: >> >>https://features

Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Benji York wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: Benji York wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: I also consider it very important that we have at least a *list* on zope.org of zope 3 projects. :) I'd suggest something that links back to PyPi, like the TurboGears GogBin: http://www.turbogears.org/cogbin

Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Benji York
Martijn Faassen wrote: Benji York wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: I also consider it very important that we have at least a *list* on zope.org of zope 3 projects. :) I'd suggest something that links back to PyPi, like the TurboGears GogBin: http://www.turbogears.org/cogbin/ Yes, that may

Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-09-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Baiju M wrote: On 9/22/06, Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Finally, I'm experimenting with using launchpad for bugs: https://launchpad.net/products/zc.buildout/+bugs and feature requests: https://features.launchpad.net/products/zc.buildout/ So far this is working OK. I haven't r

Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Benji York wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: I also consider it very important that we have at least a *list* on zope.org of zope 3 projects. :) I'd suggest something that links back to PyPi, like the TurboGears GogBin: http://www.turbogears.org/cogbin/ Yes, that may be enough for many of the p

Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Benji York
Martijn Faassen wrote: I also consider it very important that we have at least a *list* on zope.org of zope 3 projects. :) I'd suggest something that links back to PyPi, like the TurboGears GogBin: http://www.turbogears.org/cogbin/ -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation _

Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote: On Sep 22, 2006, at 12:52 PM, Martijn Faassen wrote: While I'm happy with the way this works now as it's agile, I am also hoping that eventually we can move away from the cheeseshop as the prime documentation site of a project; it's not ideally suited for that. It's not ba

Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote: On Sep 22, 2006, at 1:31 PM, Stephan Richter wrote: On Friday 22 September 2006 12:52, Martijn Faassen wrote: I hope we can move to a pattern where projects gain a homepage somewhere on zope.org, including doctests and some other information, and the cheeseshop is used for ev

Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-09-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Baiju M wrote: On 9/22/06, Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Finally, I'm experimenting with using launchpad for bugs: https://launchpad.net/products/zc.buildout/+bugs and feature requests: https://features.launchpad.net/products/zc.buildout/ So far this is working OK. I haven't r

Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-09-22 Thread Bernd Dorn
On 23.09.2006, at 06:46, Baiju M wrote: On 9/22/06, Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Finally, I'm experimenting with using launchpad for bugs: https://launchpad.net/products/zc.buildout/+bugs and feature requests: https://features.launchpad.net/products/zc.buildout/ So far this

Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-09-22 Thread Baiju M
On 9/22/06, Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Finally, I'm experimenting with using launchpad for bugs: https://launchpad.net/products/zc.buildout/+bugs and feature requests: https://features.launchpad.net/products/zc.buildout/ So far this is working OK. I haven't really stressed i

Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-22 Thread Jim Fulton
On Sep 22, 2006, at 1:31 PM, Stephan Richter wrote: On Friday 22 September 2006 12:52, Martijn Faassen wrote: I hope we can move to a pattern where projects gain a homepage somewhere on zope.org, including doctests and some other information, and the cheeseshop is used for everything else (p

Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-22 Thread Jim Fulton
On Sep 22, 2006, at 12:52 PM, Martijn Faassen wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: ... Some things to note: I knit all of the .txt files, including documentation-oriented doctest files together in the distutils long description. This causes the pypi page to be pretty informative: http://www.pytho

Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-22 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 22 September 2006 12:52, Martijn Faassen wrote: > I hope we can move to a pattern where projects gain a homepage somewhere > on zope.org, including doctests and some other information, and the > cheeseshop is used for everything else (pointing to the homepage on > zope.org with the 'url'

Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-22 Thread Martijn Faassen
Gary Poster wrote: [snip] Also, for these, we're taking the tack of "We're not ashamed of calling it 1.0" rather than the 0.x "Oh, when will I reach perfection" approach. Good point. I'll be a bit more aggressive with 1.0 in the future. Regards, Martijn

Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-22 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote: On Sep 22, 2006, at 11:47 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote: I am about to do a new egg release of zc.catalog and will be putting out other eggs as well (to the cheeseshop as we now have our own category there). I notice in the SVN that there have been quite a few changes to zc.

Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-22 Thread Jim Fulton
On Sep 22, 2006, at 11:47 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote: Hi there, I am about to do a new egg release of zc.catalog and will be putting out other eggs as well (to the cheeseshop as we now have our own category there). I notice in the SVN that there have been quite a few changes to zc.catal