[CTRL] Fwd: Bush's De Facto Energy Czar Lay on the Energy Crisis
"There's some threat sic that gas and petroleum (oil) supplies are getting dangerously low ... "... At some point there has to be a limit to the sale of electricity and natural gas to people who won't pay a good price for it." (Paraphrased) Enron's Ken Lay on California Electricity Crisis: Davos Comment Davos, Switzerland, Jan. 26 (Bloomberg) -- Kenneth Lay, chairman of Enron Corp., the world's biggest energy trader, made the following comments about the power crisis in California that has pushed the state's two largest utilities, Southern California Edison and Pacific Gas Electricity Co., close to bankruptcy. He also addresses concerns that Enron's contributions to the Republican Party are aimed at garnering special treatment from the administration of President George W. Bush: The California crisis ``is a serious problem but I don't know if'' it's going to be serious enough to shave a half a percentage point off the nation's gross domestic product, as some economists have speculated, he told Bloomberg News in an interview at the annual meeting of the World Economic Forum. ``It's mainly impacting California, but California is one-sixth of our economy.'' ``I've asked CEOs of companies out there (who have said) they're having to shut down early. Their operations are being interrupted. There's some threat that gas and petroleum supplies are getting dangerously low. Clearly it will have an impact, and it'll be a negative impact.'' ``It has to be mainly be solved in California. It is a California problem, though it's somewhat a national problem just because it's such a big state. If we could help that would be great.'' California must now begin negotiating contracts for bids it received in a power auction, Lay said. ``Indeed, if those are credible, valid offers from creditworthy counterparties or companies, and there aren't caveats or conditions, they ought to go ahead and start signing up for that.'' ``Forcing people to continue selling electricity and natural gas to people that aren't paying for it has to have a limit to it at some point.'' On the possible delay of Enron's sale of Portland General Electric: Enron on Jan. 25 said the $3.1 billion sale may be put off because proposed buyer Sierra Pacific Resources might not be able to sell a power plant stake as needed to win regulatory approval. California last week barred public utilities from shedding generators until 2006 to help keep the crisis from deepening. The order ``was mainly intended for the utilities in California to make sure they didn't sell any of their generating assets. The way they define public utility in the bill could impact Sierra Pacific because they distribute electricity in California that is generated in Nevada.'' On concerns Lay has tried to buy access to President Bush: ``I gave money to the campaign because I believe in that candidate and his policies and not to get some kind of favor out of it,'' he said. Lay gave $2,000 directly to Bush and more than $275,000 in soft money to the Republican Party -- part of $1.6 million contributed during the election by Enron and its officers, two- thirds of which went to Republicans, according to campaign finance records. Lay was among the business leaders who participated in an economic forum held by Bush in Austin, Texas, earlier this month. ``I briefed (Energy Secretary) Spencer Abraham on the problem. I have not talked to the president at all on this problem, and I don't intend to.''
[CTRL] [0] The Devil's Chemists w/complete 1-file
An excerpt from: The Devil's Chemists - 24 CONSPIRATORS OF THE INTERNATIONAL FARBEN CARTEL WHO MANUFACTURE WARS Josiah E. DuBois, Jr. Edward Johnson (collaborator) THE BEACON PRESS 1952 BOSTON First Edition - 374pps - Only edition - Contents PREFACE.ix PART ONE TOTALITARIAN INDUSTRY -THREAT TO WORLD PEACE? 1. Easter Hats and Wild Horses 3 2. Anything Intact Was Beautiful . 8 3. Before Armies March 14 4. "If We Lose the Next War 23 PART TWO THE INVESTIGATION 5. Furth Airport31 6. Digging -January 194737 7. The Address That Wasn't There44 8. American Addresses 48 PART THREE A NORmAL BUSINESS? 9. "They Will Not Dare Go on With This" 71 10. "Simply a Big Business Concern" 76 PART FOUR CONQUEST BY INDUSTRIAL ROBBERY 11. How Can You Call It Murder? . 97 12. A Sojourner of Four Countries . 107 13. Without Armies Marching 115 PART FIVE MASTERS AND SLAVES 14. A Nobel Prizewinner 122 15. "The Fellows Have Let the Rats Loose" 132 16. Gasoline and Rubber Mix 158 17. Some Purely Personal Notes 163 18. The Plain Chemist 169 19. "I'd Be Sure This Is True If I Were You" . 182 20. Everybody Knows, Nobody Knows 193 21. Silver Thickets 207 22. Monowitz219 23. A Loud Voice227 PART SIX THE MASTERS MARCH 24. International Co-operation 234 25. Like a Stroke of Lightning 252 26. The Short Thrust258 PART SEVEN THE MASTERS CONQUER 27. An "Invasion in Peacetime" 275 28. "The European States Should Get Together" 282 29. "For in the Woods There Are the Robbers"287 30. The Final Battle in Sight . 298 PART EIGHT DAY OF WAR 31. September 1, 1939 307 PART NINE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE MASTERS 32. Generals in Gray Suits 321 PART TEN DAY OF JUDGMENT 33. How Sorry We Are . 338 34. An Extraordinary Standard 348 35. The "Bulwark" Foreign Policy . 357 APPENDIX Organization Chart of I.G. Farbenindustrie A.G. 364 List of I.G. Farben Defendants 365 ACKNOWLEDGMENTS.368 INDEX 370 The illustrations are grouped together following page 78 = Preface To UNDERSTAND THE FULL SIGNIFICANCE of this story, bear in mind that today the main characters defendants in the most farreaching criminal trial in history -are all alive and free to work against the way of life you and I cherish. Today a great struggle is being waged for the political allegiance of men. The United States of America has been steadily -losing in that struggle since the end of World War II. In seven years the free world has lost to Communism half of Europe and large areas of Asia. This amounts to the loss of over eight hundred million people who once regarded themselves as our friends and allies. The foreign policy of the United States demonstrates that most of our leaders understand little of what has happened in Europe and Asia during the last generation. We have challenged disillusioned hearts with only a hodgepodge of defensive tactics. It is my belief that we lost the support of most of these people because we appealed to them almost entirely through our own fears, with little regard for their real hopes, dreams, and needs. To replace Communist bread, often we have spread our own table reluctantly and too late. Often we have countered the vicious Communist evangelism only by negative argument. Most important, we have poured salt on the ugly wounds which certain hated industrialists have cut into four continents. For ten years the average European and Asian has understood my story better than our leaders yet understand it. I believe also that the average American, should he read this book, will have a better understanding than his government of how Europeans and Asians feel about the facts. To those who sickened in the 1930's at the news that American scrap iron was being sold to Japan; to those who later observed with disgust the failure of the League of Nations to put teeth into its economic "sanctions" against Italy when she invaded Abyssinia; to those who recently cried shame On the shipment of British war-potential goods through Hong Kong to the Chinese Red Army; to those who are flatly opposed to doing strategic business with any totalitarian institution, whether by direct sales or outright political subsidy -to all those, this book is recommended. The full story of all the industrial groups that have deliberately bred war, or have deliberately shut their eyes to the breeding of war, could not be contained in ten books. I have limited my story to the single group of men whose vast influence epitomizes all the others a group that is
[CTRL] US steadies aim of space laser
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! US steadies aim of space laser Thursday, 25 January 2001 13:43 (ET) US steadies aim of space laser EL SEGUNDO, Calif., Jan. 25 (UPI) -- The development of a futuristic orbiting laser capable of shooting down missiles headed for the United States took a step forward with the successful test of a means to keep the weapon pointed at its target in the weightless environment of space. Engineers from the Space Based Laser-Integrated Flight Experiment (SPL-IFX) consortium successfully tested software designed to keep the laser's telescopic targeting optics fixed on their targets while the weapon is firing, it was announced Thursday. "The test was a solid success," said Col. Neil McCasland, director of the Air Force's SBL-IFX project office. "The laser operated (as expected), the software designed to maintain the positions of the beam director optics during lasing performed as designed, and we collected a wealth of diagnostic data about the high-energy laser environment." The test, which lasted 6 seconds, took place Dec. 8 at a TRW facility in Orange County, Calif. The $240 million SBL-IFX project is aimed at developing a working laser-armed satellite that can defend the United States against a small number of missiles launched either by mistake or by a "rogue" nation. The Air Force-funded consortium's plan calls for an actual attempted interception in 2013. "A critical part of a successful on-orbit IFX demonstration is being able to know precisely where the beam director will direct the laser beam," said Art Woods, Lockheed Martin's space laser program manager. "We proved with this test that the...systems designed to measure the alignment of the beam director telescope and the relationship between the beam director's primary and secondary mirrors can operate effectively in the presence of the high-power laser beam." The consortium, which includes TRW, Boeing and Lockheed Martin, received its latest funding increment from the Pentagon last October and has started fabricating some parts of the actual orbiter, a TRW spokesman said Thursday. -- Copyright 2001 by United Press International. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Beijing using front companies to grab U.S. arms technology
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Beijing using front companies to grab U.S. arms technology By Bill Gertz THE WASHINGTON TIMES China is buying U.S. weapons technology illegally through front companies in Hong Kong and Singapore, U.S. intelligence officials said. Top Stories ⢠Greenspan boosts Bush tax-cut plan ⢠Clinton aides accused of theft, vandalism ⢠China demands U.S. stop 'interfering' on human rights ⢠Democrats demand Ashcroft apologize ⢠Clinton plan puts Israel at risk, Sharon aide says According to sensitive intelligence reports, China last month acquired "radiation-hardened" integrated circuits from a U.S. company that were shipped to China from Singapore, said officials familiar with the reports. The Chinese company involved in the diversion was identified as the China Aircraft and Space Technology Co. In a second activity, a Chinese missile-manufacturing firm purchased American-made communications-test equipment from a U.S. company based in Hong Kong. The U.S. company was not identified under intelligence-collection rules. Both sales were reported to senior U.S. officials early last month and are a sign that Beijing is continuing aggressively to acquire U.S. weapons-related goods for its military-modernization program. All military-related goods sold from the United States to China require an export license. However, Chinese companies secretly have been purchasing embargoed technology and hardware under export rules relaxed during the Clinton administration. The intelligence reports bolster the findings of a special congressional committee that stated in a 1999 report that the use of Hong Kong companies "is a common [Chinese] tactic for illegal transfer of technology." In a related development, China is continuing to sell missile- related equipment to Iraq and Iran in apparent violation of its pledge last fall to curb such transfers, said officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity. The officials provided a briefing to The Washington Times to highlight what they said were ongoing Chinese sales of weapons and missile technology to rogue states, in violation of official pledges by Beijing to curtail such transfers. "The Chinese appear to be selling everything to everybody," said one defense official. In November, the Clinton administration announced it would not impose sanctions on China for selling missile technology to Iran and Pakistan after Beijing promised to curb further sales. Iran and Pakistan, however, were slapped with sanctions. A Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman said in a statement at the time that China had no plans "to assist, in any way, any country" developing nuclear-capable ballistic missiles. Regarding the Iraqi missile-related sales, the officials said a delegation of representatives of a Chinese company was set to travel to Iraq last month to discuss the sale of "missile-related guidance and test equipment." The company is offering gear to be used in testing missile inertial guidance systems, which are key components of long-range missile systems. The company was using what U.S. officials said is a "cover name" to mask the true nature of the sales trip. The company was identified as the Shandong Arts and Crafts Co. A Pentagon report on arms proliferation made public earlier this month stated that Iraq is working on two short-range missiles that are providing a base for building long-range missiles, should U.N. sanctions on the country be lifted. The report noted that Iraq "may have ambitions for longer-range missiles, including an ICBM (Intercontinental Ballistic Missile)." Additionally, a Chinese company has recently been shipping specialty metals and chemicals used in missile production to Iran, the officials said. The seller was identified as Norinco, the acronym for China North Industries Co., which was linked by federal investigators in 1996 to smuggling of AK-47 assault rifles in Los Angeles. The Iranian buyer was identified as the Shahid Bakeri Industrial Group, a defense-related company involved in Iran's missile program. The Pentagon report stated that despite "numerous pledges" not to sell weapons to rogue states, "Chinese entities have supported some nuclear, chemical and missile programs in countries of proliferation concern, driven by China's overall strategic interests in South Asia and the Middle East and by domestic economic pressures." The report noted China's sales of missile-related goods to Iran, Libya and North Korea. According to the officials, in addition to its own weapons- proliferation activities, China covertly is helping North Korea buy and sell missile goods. In November, a North Korean company based in China sent specialty steel used in missiles to Egypt, the officials said, noting that the steel is controlled under the 29-nation Missile Technology
[CTRL] Colombia: Adopting a Tougher Stance Against The FARC
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Colombia: Adopting a Tougher Stance Against The FARC 25 January 2001 Summary Colombian President Andres Pastrana is adopting a tougher stance with the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) for the first time since taking office in 1998. Over 2,500 Colombian army soldiers are on the border of the FARC-held demilitarized zone in southern Colombia, and Pastrana is warning that if the rebels donât renew peace talks by Jan. 31 â the deadline for ending the DMZ â the negotiations would be over. Pastrana, however, is posturing. The Colombian government lacks the military capability to launch a successful all-out offensive against the FARC. Analysis Colombian President Andres Pastrana is rattling sabers in a last-ditch bid to compel the FARC to resume peace negotiations with the government. A week before the Jan. 31 deadline for ending the two-year-old demilitarized zone in southern Colombia controlled by the FARC, the Colombian army has positioned over 2,500 heavily armed soldiers at several points on the DMZâs border. Another 7,000 soldiers are being concentrated at several bases and held in reserve, according to General Fernando Tapias, commander of the Colombian armed forces. Meanwhile, Pastrana told the Parisian daily Le Monde that if FARC leaders do not return unilaterally to the peace talks they abandoned last November, then âlogically there is no negotiation.â Pastranaâs uncharacteristic show of force sounds more like political posturing than steely determination to launch an all-out military offensive against the FARC. In fact, the Colombian army does not have the capability yet to conduct a successful all-out offensive. The truth is that Pastrana â like the majority of Colombiaâs political leaders who have shown little willingness to confront the FARC on the battlefield â is unlikely to launch an aggressive military campaign against the FARC without first receiving guarantees of strong political and military support from the United States. Until now, Pastrana has pursued a policy of peace at any price with the FARC. FARC leaders, however, have not made a single concession in return. Two years of faltering talks have failed to produce a cease-fire agreement. Instead, kidnappings and killings by FARC units have increased rapidly since 1988. FARC leaders have used their sole control of an area in southern Colombia â roughly the size of Switzerland â to recruit and train new fighters, acquire a large arsenal that includes over 30,000 automatic assault rifles, expand the FARCâs civilian support militia throughout Colombia, position its forces strategically near major urban centers, and consolidate the rebel groupâs dominant role in the cocaine trade. Today the FARC numbers about 17,000 well-armed fighters scattered across Colombia in at least 66 identified separate units or fronts. In addition, the FARC has expanded its civilian support militia from about 36,000 persons in 1998 to nearly 100,000 today, according to Colombian intelligence sources cited by El Nuevo Herald, the Spanish edition of the Miami Herald. The bulk of this civilian militia engages in providing financial, logistical, political, legal and other non-violent support to the FARC. Some militia members, however, could be armed and used to reinforce small urban guerrilla networks the FARC has positioned in Bogota and other major urban centers in the last two or three years. President Pastrana is in a political bind. Alfonso Lopez, one of the Colombian governmentâs peace negotiators, warned this week that the peace process has lost credibility while Pastranaâs maneuvering room âhas been reduced vertically.â Moreover, a poll by Colombiaâs Caracol Network showed that 89 percent of those surveyed oppose extending the FARC-held DMZ beyond the Jan. 31 deadline. Until now Pastrana and the overwhelming majority of Colombiaâs political leaders have shown no stomach for confronting the FARC in any venue other than peace negotiations. FARC leaders are gambling that Pastrana is only posturing, and that he will extend the Jan. 31 deadline for the DMZ rather than risk escalating the countryâs civil war. On Jan. 17, the FARC issued a new proposal that linked renewing the peace talks to an indefinite extension of the FARC-held DMZ and to the official involvement of the European Union in the peace talks. The FARC proposal also held out the possibility of a partial prisoner exchange involving some of the more than 550 soldiers and police officials held captive for as long as three years. Until now, the FARC has controlled the pace and direction of the two-year-old peace talks. While the Colombian government has made concession after concession, the FARC has conceded nothing in return. Moreover, even if Pastrana agrees to extend the DMZâs life indefinitely, the FARC will not alter its strategy of
[CTRL] Citizenship
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.mises.org/fullarticle.asp?control=594month=28title=What+is+Citizenship%3 Fid=28 }}Begin What is Citizenship? by William Anderson [January 23, 2001] In his inauguration address, President George W. Bush exhorted Americans to act as "citizens" and to demonstrate the virtues necessary for good citizenship. Of course, the usual crowd thought that was great, especially following the narcissistic presidency of Bill Clinton. However, maybe it is time to look again at these demands made by the political classes that productive people work even harder in order to support them. Books and speeches by politicians demanding virtue from the citizenry are legion. From Abraham Lincoln's "Gettysburg Address" to John F. Kennedy's famous "Ask Not" line to Jimmy Carter's "Moral Equivalence of War" (MEOW) speech given from the comfort of the White House, individuals are called upon to sacrifice and give support to the state. This latest inaugural address, while sounding good to the ears of some pundits, carries on the fiction that collectivism is the highest duty of American citizens. First, and most important, it is not as though many of us citizens do not already work hard to support government at all levels. While I do not earn enough to fall into the highest tax brackets, a quick examination of my W-2 forms shows that I have had a huge portion of my income confiscated to feed the revenue beasts of Washington, D.C., and the State of South Carolina. When one throws in sales taxes, gasoline taxes, and the like, the picture becomes even more clear: I work for nearly half a year just to support the political classes who then demand more. That I should work to support my own family must be subordinated to my "duty" to support the political classes and their allies. I hardly fall into a singular class. Millions of Americans like myself pay exorbitant amounts of taxes, and then are forced to hear politicians and some economists say that cutting taxes is "risky." Furthermore, any call by citizens to cut taxes and government spending is immediately shouted down by politicians and their supporters as "irresponsible" and quite incompatible with Good Citizenship. For all the ballyhoo from Washington and Wall Street about the dangers of President Bush's proposed tax cut, most of us - including that mysterious wealthy one percent - will hardly notice anything even if Congress approves the whole thing. Second, politicians are forever pushing the idea that people only "work together" when exhorted to do so by their political masters. The billions of acts of cooperation that occur each day within the various private marketplaces are declared to be nothing more than wicked selfishness, an impediment to Real Social Cooperation. Like Thomas Hobbes, they believe that only a Leviathan State can force people to jointly seek the True Interests of society. Unfortunately for politicians, reality has a way of clouding their speech. Last week, my wife was forced to sit for hours at the local Social Security office just to be able to apply for an SS card for my recently adopted daughter. (It used to be that we could wait until we took our first job before receiving our SS numbers, but now the government insists that infants also be numbered.) My wife had no real option but to "cooperate" with her political masters, who insisted she take a number and wait her turn. Later that day, she shopped at one of the many grocery stores in this area. No one there put her through the third degree, and the workers there willingly helped her when she needed assistance. Yet, in political speak, the SS office was a paragon of people "working together" while the grocery store was a nest of selfishness. Indeed, no one at a private pension office would have abused my wife the day the Social Security Administration did that day, but according to our political classes, pensions often are characterized as legalized theft while SS is compassion in action. Third, what the political classes constitute to be the "duties of a citizen" and what seems to be real public service often are at odds. For example, individuals who vote are lauded as "participating in democracy," yet it is clear that large blocs of voters are doing nothing more than electing politicians who promise to loot the belongings of others. Just because theft is legalized at the ballot box does not mean that it is not stealing. Likewise, working for the government does not constitute "public service." As my wife discovered at the SS office, she was the servant, not those who were supposed to "serve" her. Of course, Bush also lauds efforts by private citizens to engage in relief work, building homes for poor people through organizations like Habitat for Humanity, and working with homeless people. Those volunteers who do such things are often said to be "giving back to the community," as though they had taken something not rightfully theirs in the first place. I
[CTRL] DEFENDING AMERICA NEWSLETTER 24 January 2001 Part 3
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! ARTICLE 7 The Sergeant's Corner - Cold War Training and Leading Remembered Ed.: A good perspective about team training and salvaging problem troops. *** By Marc J. Custer Although I have been out of the Military for nearly 15 years, I follow it as best I can. Your recent article was right on the money. All the fancy and high tech weapons and equipment aren't worth anything unless we have soldiers of even higher caliber. I used to get sick of all the over again and over again training we used to do as enlisted. But I would swear by it once I became an NCO, because simple things like changing a 50 cal. barrel was second nature, or coming out of the back of an A.P.C. was like a football team coming up to the line of scrimmage knowing how to execute the play automatically. It seemed hard to come up with new ways to do the same old things at NCO time training in garrison. There were some groups of NCOs that I worked with that the teamwork between us actually made such training periods fun for the troops. I learned things from everyone as we all did. It was the collective experiences that we shared, as each of us had their own area that we excelled in, and passed it on to our soldiers. Even off duty, like on a Saturday morning a platoon would get together and go off into the woods and train on how to engage snipers (or terrorists) with SSG McNiel and our Platoon Leader acting as the snipers (McNiel was good!). There was so many ways to be creative back in the 1980s. The equipment was still old but the troops trained well. I feel that the Cold War was a motivation that inspired some of us. Since it's end I feel there is something lacking to inspire the Military. The missions are unclear, or less of a threat. The unsaid stress of the Cold War in a soldiers mind was what drove many to excel. For others it weeded them out, as they turned to alcohol or drugs. Unlike many, I choose rehab instead of punishment for them. I understood the stress, and the mechanisms for dealing with them. Keep them busy, keep them focused, and encourage them to do better (not scold them for failure, none of us are perfect). = ARTICLE 8 ~ And the Public Wonders why Recruiting is so Difficult? ~ Ed: Know the underlying causes for the problem, before you implement the fixes. *** Col Roderick Smith, USMCR (Ret.) Enthusiasm for the military life is a calling, not a job. As with any true calling, it is based on the willingness to subordinate individual thoughts and concerns, including the concern to protect one's own life, for the good of the group and the mission. It is teamwork at its heart and teamwork in its most complex form. Such enthusiasm is gained by experience, self-discipline and camaraderie. Recruits rarely have it, although must hold the potential for it. Military recruits join their service for three primary reasons: (1) Membership-the opportunity to belong to a prideful organization and to show off that membership, (2) Challenge-the ability to undergo, endure and conquer physical and mental circumstances well beyond ordinary, daily life, and (3) Adventure-consistent with numbers 1 and 2 above, the opportunity to participate directly or vicariously in exciting, demanding and potentially dangerous activities. Service in the more "safe" military occupations-cooks, accountants, administrators - must be viewed as valuable parts of the overall combat team, or they become mere civilian employment. A military calling finds its core in the warrior's spirit...the burning desire to close with and kill your enemy, and to defeat his cause...all while operating under a cloak of honor and national values. Any soldier, sailor, airman or Marine excelling in his occupation, but eschewing this warrior spirit, is merely a good, civilian employee in uniform. Camaraderie, the ability to share this warrior's spirit with others undergoing substantially identical experiences and challenges, is the glue holding the system together. Military pay must be present and sufficient to support the consistency of the system, and to provide for an appropriate level of lifestyle for rank attained. So long as fundamental fairness and ability to support oneself are adequately maintained, attraction of pay is not a prime motivator to a calling. How to defeat a military system: Encourage individuality in uniforms, haircuts, attitudes, decorum and speech patterns. Eliminate participation in physical fitness and traditional "macho" military activities. Affirm the notion that all military duties are merely
Re: [CTRL] 2 Klinton articles
-Caveat Lector- Seems this BeeOTCH has your number, my friend!! ;-) My best to you, Mike P.S. What's your take on the Super Bowl odds (and your choice of victors)?? I, personally, woulda GIVEN 6 1/2 to Baltimore!! I put $50 on the Giants and 2.5:) I see it as X-mas 2001 EARLY! On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, tnohava wrote: My my...someone initiated a condemning and disdainful exchange in response to my jesting reply. Sorry...Not Afraid, only BORED with you and your response concerning the article I posted last week on the Most Holy Reverend Jesse Jackson and the expose' of his infidelity and illegitimate toddler. If you recall you chose to respond to that article in private email to me personally with your bashing remarks and not via CTRL. As a result you couldn't take the heat as you've proven here. "cutesy vanity email servers and then disallowing replies" Sorry again...it's apparent you know nothing about what you're talking about. Check the message header, trace the message...sorry again...you'll go nowhere. No (as you put it) "cutesy" servers, no remailers, all easily traceable. Disallowing replies...mistaken again, all you did was reply to a non existent email address. I did this full well knowing you wasted allot of time bashing me again only to have the message returned to you. Knowing as well you lacked the common sense to work around this. Frankly I was bored with your drivel and decided you were mentally unstable already. "Hit and Run"...I'm still here, I've been subscribed to this list for at least three years now, probably more. "wussy lil' fella" My my...you don't even know me. It's like I told before, email makes the little man feel big as you've proven here...illusionary. "I don't wanna' get off on a rant here but...there's nothing worse than a big-talking momma's boy throwing the STONES he's so clearly lacking." Really puzzled by this one, a profound and stupid statement. To make a statement as such you would have to know something about me and that you clearly do not nor does anyone else on this list. It's pretty evident you have some psychological problems, you've proven that with your pursuit of me via the Internet in private email. Personal advice... When your Head starts hurting again ["I FEEL YOUR PAIN"-(Barf!)] you should seek medication and or professional consultation. When pain in your head becomes unbearable here is a link you might find very useful, "Click Here" If the former doesn't seem to get the job done for you perhaps you'll find this a useful alternative, "Click Here" Perhaps there's something more lacking in your life, a insufficiency, maybe this will help, "Click Here" Or you might find help on the flipside, "Click Here" It's obvious you're a Hillary Clinton Fan, you might enjoy joining the rest of her Fans, "Click Here". Your no different than some of the others who can't accept the fact there is no more Clinton/Gore or Gore Lieberman Administration. The trashing of the Whitehouse and Air Force One pretty much tells anyone with some measurable degree of intelligence what kind of character we had running the Executive Branch of Government, really honorable huh? One thing that puzzles me is why you Forwarded the message below back to the CTRL ListDUH!!! Go ahead and reply in your usual stupid braindead fashion as you won't illicit any response from me, as your nothing more than a Total Ignorant Bore who chose to initiate this. Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Shannon Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 7:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] 2 Klinton articles In a message dated 1/24/01 6:02:49 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's been reported she's having problems with her Shapeshifting Abilities. It's also been reported that tnohava is a real wussy lil' fella' who is to 'fraid to reply to emails without resorting to sending "hit and run" type missives from cutesy vanity email servers and then disallowing replies. I don't wanna' get off on a rant here but...there's nothing worse than a big-talking momma's boy throwing the STONES he's so clearly lacking. Bill. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different
[CTRL] Calf. Energy Crisis LIPPO (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:32:40 -0800 From: Charles Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Calf. Energy Crisis LIPPO FYI - California has a power crisis and Edison is one of the companies about to go bankrupt. Power crisis? Hah... financial crisis due to illegal payments made to Lippo and Suharto. The PAITON COAL FIRED POWER PLANT in East Java... Californians should ask Edison International about that $50 no-payback loan to Suharto's daughter and the now-invalid $2.6 billion dollar Paiton power plant in Indonesia. The Indonesia power company PLN used my FOIA documents to prove the Edison project made the illegal loan in court. Keep in mind that the Suharto relative who had the no-cut/no-bid coal contract is also fianancially backed by the Lippo group. The coal is - of course - from the world's only sulfur free mine in Indonesia - thanks to former President Clinton's Utah monument. The proof? The Edison CEO wrote Ron Brown trying to strong arm the Asian Development Bank to make the no-payback loan to Suharto's daughter. ADB turned down Edison - forcing the utility to finance the no-payback loan using commercial notes. All now ruled illegal. The Indonesian audit of the Edison project revealed that over $280 million was missing. .gif image (signature included) http://www.softwar.net/kkn.html SCE CORP P-O. Box 999 2244 Walnut Grove Avenue, Rosemead California 91770, (818) 302-2265 John E. Bryson Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer August 26, 1994 Secretary Ronald H. Brown Department of Commerce 14th St. Constitution Ave., N.W. Washington, D.C. 20203 Dear Ron: I am writing to request your support of the application of the Paiton Private Power Project in Indonesia for funding by the Asian Development Bank (ADB). The Project, which is described in the attached background sheet, is a $2.6 billion power project. being developed by Mission Energy Company (a subsidiary of SCEcorp) together with its partners General Electric Company, Mitsui Co., Ltd.., and Batu Hiram Perkasa of Indonesia. We have applied to the ADB for $50 million of funding as part of a $1.9 billion financing package. The bulk of the funds will come from a group of commercial banks, the U. S. Export Import Bank and Japan Ex-Im. The Paiton Project is widely recognized as one of the leading private power projects in Asia. Mission Energy, an American Company, has taken the lead in the development of the project. The success of this project will greatly enhance the business prospects for American companies in the fast-growing private power markets worldwide. I would greatly appreciate it if you would indicate your support for ADB funding of this project. With that in mind, enclosed is a draft letter to Ambassador Linda Tsao Yang, U.S. Executive. Director of ADB, for your consideration. Robert Edgell, Executive Vice President of Mission Energy, would be pleased to answer any questions and to work with your staff on this matter. Thank you for your consideration of this request. Very truly yours, John E. Bryson Enclosures = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Defense Secretary: U.S. Will Build National Missile-Defense System
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Defense Secretary: U.S. Will Build National Missile-Defense System Friday, January 26, 2001 The United States will forge ahead with plans to build a national missile-defense system, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said Friday. Hillery Smith Garrison/AP Friday: Rumsfeld gestures to reporters at the Pentagon during his announcement about the missile defense system. The Bush administration's controversial move comes despite objections by Russia and other countries. "The president has not been ambivalent about" following through on his campaign pledge to build a shield to protect against limited attack from ballistic missiles, Rumsfeld said. He would not say when the decision to actually deploy such a system would be made. As to the landmark 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile treaty that rules out such defenses, Rumsfeld said, "we are in a very different world" than when the treaty was signed. "It was a long time ago that that treaty was fashioned," he said. "Technologies were noticeably different. The Soviet Union, our partner in that agreement, doesn't exist any more." Russia, under democratic rule since 1993, sees the matter differently. Along with Beijing, Moscow opposes the system, saying it could re-ignite the arms race. Russian President Vladimir Putin has warned that Russia would scrap all existing arms control agreements if Washington backs out of the treaty. In Moscow on Friday, Putin insisted Russia expects the United States to adhere to the ABM treaty. "Russia is actively working with our partners" and "counts on joint work" to preserve the ABM treaty, Putin said. Rumsfeld, a strong advocate of the system, has said the shield would defend against states seen as a threat, such as North Korea and Iran. Many conservatives, however, contend the ABM treaty is no longer in force. Rumsfeld stopped short of expressing such a sentiment, but said, "It ought not to inhibit a country, a president, an administration, a nation from fashioning offensive and defensive capabilities that will provide for our security. The Russians know, they have to know, that the kinds of capabilities that are being discussed are not capabilities that threaten them in any way." Rumsfeld plans to travel to Munich, Germany, next week to attend an annual European conference on security issues, where he will have his first chance to raise the missile defense issue with European allies, some of whom are antsy about the repercussions Friday's decision may have. Former President Clinton delayed a decision on whether the nation should move ahead with a missile defense system, leaving the issue for Bush. â The Associated Press contributed to this report *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NM: Top Judiciary Dem Leahy Defends White House Trashing
-Caveat Lector- With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff Thursday, Jan. 25, 2001 4:32 p.m. EST Top Judiciary Dem Leahy Defends White House Trashing Ranking Senate Judiciary Committee Democrat Patrick Leahy said Thursday that White House vandalism by departing Clinton aides doesn't warrant investigation, because the perpetrators were merely following the example set by the previous Bush administration. "You know, the same issue came up when former President Bush left," Leahy told WKDR Burlington, Vt. radio host Mark Johnson. "They found on some of the furniture in the White House, they had laminated [former] President Bush's photograph onto it when the Clinton people came in," said Leahy, adding that the new administration had to spend "a great deal of money" to undo the damage. Leahy also charged that aides to the current president's father had "moved a number of things" and "changed a number of the computers around so that it would take them a long time to have them reconfigured." "I thought it was wrong when the Bush people did it," said the Vermont senator. "I think it's wrong when the Clinton people did it." Even if true, the apparently new charges of Bush White House vandalism, at least as described by Leahy, don't rise to the level of what allegedly transpired last Saturday, when telephone and computer cables were cut, desks were overturned, trash was dumped everywhere, and White House hallways weresprayed with obscene graffiti. Still, Leahy said he hoped there would be no investigation into the Inauguration Day destruction. "We didn't go investigating the Bush people for doing it and I just think that President George W. Bush is going to take the same position President Clinton did - where the Clinton people did not go after his father's aides for doing the things they did." Leahy did criticize Saturday's White House vandalism as "somewhat tasteless." = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ABCN: REU: Sen. Clinton Challenges Bush's Tax, Health Policies
-Caveat Lector- http://www.abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/reuters20010125_4332.html Sen. Clinton Challenges Bush's Tax, Health Policies WASHINGTON (Reuters) - In her first major policy speech as a U.S. senator, former first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton on Thursday lashed out at President George W. Bush"s tax cut plans and warned him against rolling back abortion rights. Less than a week after leaving the White House, Sen. Clinton drew battle lines with the new Republican administration on tax and health care policy. She blasted Bush"s $1.6 trillion tax cut package, saying it would "lead us back to a deficit position," warned the new administration against banning the abortion pill RU-486 on "political grounds," and promised to lobby for passage of a "universal, affordable and comprehensive" prescription drug benefit for seniors. Clinton made history in the November election, becoming the first president"s wife to win public office. As New York"s new senator, Clinton promised to focus on nitty gritty, constituent-oriented policies, and to work alongside the Republican leaders who spearheaded her husband"s impeachment and pushed Democrats out of the White House. Addressing a health care forum in Washington, Sen. Clinton sharply criticized Bush for imposing a ban on federal funds for international family planning groups that "perform or actively promote" abortions. "I would hope that this order, which penalizes family planning ... would be rethought and reversed," she said, adding that her supporters must "remain vigilant so that the progress we"ve made thus far is not rolled back." Clinton said Bush"s secretary of health and human services, Tommy Thompson, should not politicize his proposed review of the abortion pill RU-486. The pill won Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approval last year, giving women a nonsurgical option for ending early-term pregnancies. "I think the evidence of the efficacy and safety of RU-486 is convincing and I would be very concerned if a decision were made on political grounds instead of on medical or scientific grounds," Clinton told reporters. Reviled by some conservative Republicans for heading efforts in President Clinton"s first term to overhaul the health care system, the former first lady said she would continue the fight in the Senate. Clinton threw her support behind Democratic bills that would provide prescription coverage to Medicare recipients, expand health care coverage to the uninsured and safeguard patients" rights. And she warned Congress against abandoning "balanced" fiscal policies in favor of massive tax cuts. "In striking that balance between tax cuts and investments, paying down the debt and having a reserve fund, we have to recognize that health care must get the attention it deserves," Clinton said. But given that Republicans, for the first time since 1953, simultaneously control the White House, the Senate and the House of Representatives, she conceded: "The road ahead is one that"s difficult." = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [WND] 'Invade a home and invite a bullet' South Carolina attorney general backs armed home defense
-Caveat Lector- 'Invade a home and invite a bullet' South Carolina attorney general backs armed home defense http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21478 By Jon Dougherty In declaring an "open season" on burglars who break into homes, South Carolina Attorney General Charlie Condon has instructed all solicitors, sheriffs and police chiefs in the state to refrain from arresting "citizens acting to defend their homes" with a firearm or other weapon. In a statement released yesterday, Condon's office said the attorney general sent a memorandum to all state prosecutors and law enforcement officials warning them not to arrest or prosecute people who defend themselves with "deadly force" against a "home invader." The statement said the policy was necessary to protect citizens "in the wake of a rash of recent home invasions in North Charleston and elsewhere throughout the state." "As chief prosecutor of South Carolina, I am today declaring open season on home invaders," Condon said. "That season is year round. Citizens protecting their homes who use force -- even deadly force -- will be fully safeguarded under the law of this state and subject to no arrest, charge or prosecution. "In South Carolina, would-be intruders should now hear this: Invade a home and invite a bullet," said Cordon, a Republican. The state's chief law enforcement officer also said "a recent rash of home invasions by gang members and other criminals" led to his decision, noting that gang activity "is rising sharply in South Carolina." He cited a string of recent break-ins in North Charleston, as well as an incident in Columbia -- the state capital -- "where a victim managed to fight off home invaders with a sword," the statement said. Also, Condon said that in Richland County, sheriff's department officials believe four men have been responsible for over 90 home invasions in the past year alone. The policy serves as a warning to potential burglars, Condon said, about what "faces them" if they attempt to break into a home. And, he said, the policy would serve "to let homeowners know their rights." The attorney general said existing case law in South Carolina "gives ironclad protection to the citizen in safeguarding his or her home. "Inside the citizen's home, there are no legal technicalities for the criminal to rely on," he said. Courts have ruled that even deadly force may be used against a burglar "if such degree of force be reasonably necessary to accomplish the purpose of preventing a forcible entry against his will." Condon said the new policy would actually help the state's police officers. "Law enforcement officers cannot be everywhere at once," he said, noting that armed citizens protecting their homes would serve as a deterrent to crime, and lower crime rates and property loss. "Home invaders will think twice and even a third time" before breaking in, he said, "knowing [they] risk . their own death . on the other side of the innocent homeowner's door." "The home is the family's fortress of protection," he added. "When at home, people rightfully feel they are standing on sacred ground. The citizen's home is the line in the sand where criminals dare not cross." Condon's policy appears to reflect the sentiment of most police chiefs and sheriffs across the country. According to a 1999-2000 annual survey conducted by the National Association of Chiefs of Police, 93 percent of police chiefs and sheriffs who responded believe law-abiding citizens "should be able to purchase a firearm for self-defense or sport." Perhaps ironically, almost 95 percent of respondents did not believe the media is "fair and balanced" in reporting the news about police, firearms and other issues. While most gun-control groups believe fewer firearms in circulation -- as well as increased restrictions on private firearms ownership -- would do more to reduce gun deaths and the violent crime associated with them, survey participants overwhelmingly disagreed. Most police chiefs and sheriffs said better enforcement of existing laws -- not new gun laws -- would do more to reduce violence and gun deaths. Also, 88 percent said persons convicted of violating state or federal firearm possession laws should receive the maximum prison term for the offense. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum
[CTRL] High court upholds child porn ban
-Caveat Lector- http://www.nationalpost.com/ January 27, 2001 High court upholds child porn ban Justices overturn lower court's verdict, allow two exceptions Luiza Chwialkowska National Post OTTAWA - The Supreme Court of Canada unanimously upheld the nation's child pornography law yesterday, releasing a long-anticipated ruling that also set out two exceptions to the law. The ruling means that John Robin Sharpe, the retired B.C. town planner who launched the challenge of the law, will stand trial again on charges of possession of child pornography. The nine justices upheld the law that made it a crime to possess a broad range of child pornography, but they split 6-3 over exempting two categories of material: items such as diaries or drawings created privately and videos or photographs people take of themselves, provided they do not depict unlawful activity and are also for private use. "The limits [the law] imposes on free expression are justified by the protection the law affords children from exploitation and abuse," Chief Justice Beverley McLachlin wrote in the 64-page ruling. "The prohibition captures in its sweep materials that arguably pose little or no risk to children, and that deeply implicate the freedoms guaranteed under [the Charter,]" the ruling read. Three of the judges disagreed with the majority and would have upheld the entire law. In an interview from his Vancouver-area rooming house, Mr. Sharpe said he was disappointed to learn that his legal battle will continue. The 67-year-old said children were meant to have sex, regardless of what the law says. "If God didn't mean children to have sex, then why does puberty happen so early?" he said yesterday. "Why [are] kids capable of sexual urges and sexual fantasies from at least the age of 11 in boys, probably earlier in girls? Did God goof?" The decision will allow dozens of other child pornography cases across the country to resume. As many as 100 prosecutions had been suspended until the Supreme Court ruled on an appeal of decisions by two B.C. courts which struck down the child pornography law. Law enforcement officials applauded the ruling. "The members on the front lines will be please and relieved with the decision," said Constable Grant Obst, president of the Canadian Police Association and member of the Saskatoon Police Services. "We will not have to alter or change our current prosecution of pornography." Tim Danson, who represented police and victims organizations intervening in the case, said the kind of material covered by the two exceptions have never been the sole basis of an investigation, charge or prosecution. Most child pornography is traded on the Internet, and pedophiles who only keep private diaries "don't exist," he said. "Police are not interested in diaries. They are far too busy with respect to serious child pornography." Prosecutors also welcomed the ruling, saying the exceptions imposed by the court will not effect the majority of their cases. Bryan Davies, assistant Crown attorney in Whitby, Ont., is prosecuting two cases involving possession of child pornography that have been on hold pending the ruling in the Sharpe case. He said yesterday that he expects them to return to court immediately. "We are very happy with what the Supreme Court of Canada has done. It would appear to remove any impediment as to why the cases shouldn't go ahead. The rules are very clear," Mr. Davies said. Detective Inspector Bob Matthews, head of the pornography unit of Ontario Provincial Police, said the case will allow police and prosecutors to "clear the backlog" of 41 cases left in limbo in Ontario courts waiting for the decision. It is not clear whether the exceptions will help Mr. Sharpe, who successfully challenged the law as a violation of free speech. Materials seized from his possession in 1995 and 1996 included both short stories and photographs of nude boys in sexual acts. Mr. Sharpe's lawyers had argued the language of the statute was "Orwellian" in its scope, however the court gave a much narrower interpretation to the wording of the statute. The ruling said fictional stories were not covered by the law's ban on "written materials that advocates or counsels sexual activity." "While Nabokov's Lolita, Boccaccio's Decameron, and Plato's Symposium portray or discuss sexual activities with children ... they cannot be said to advocate or counsel such conduct in the sense of actively inducing or encouraging it," the court declared. The decision left intact the law's existing exceptions for work of artistic merit, educational, scientific or medical purpose. However, Justice McLachlin said in upholding the law that children should be protected from becoming either the subjects or victims of child pornography. "Explicit sexual photographs and videotapes of children may promote cognitive distortions, fuel fantasies that incite offenders, enable grooming of victims, and may be produced using real children,"
[CTRL] Twisted furor over schoolboy essay
-Caveat Lector- http://www.nationalpost.com/ January 27, 2001 Twisted furor over schoolboy essay Many say jailing not a case of censorship Jonathan Kay National Post Margaret Atwood, Michael Ondaatje and other successful authors will meet in Ottawa tomorrow to trumpet their support for an Ontario schoolboy charged with uttering threats after he read a violent monologue in class. The fundraising event is called "Artists for Freedom of Speech." But students and administrators at the Tagwi Secondary School in Avonmore, Ont., say this case may have little to do with free expression. The Tagwi (pronounced "tug-wuh") story, as it has been told, goes like this: Following years of abuse from bullies, the boy (whose name cannot be revealed under Canada's Young Offenders Act) read his drama classmates a story, which he titled Twisted, about a boy blowing up a school. Though the monologue was fictional, fears of a Columbine-style attack whipped the school into hysteria. Tagwi suspended the student as punishment for what he had written. The police, who also became caught up in the hysteria, used the same justification to throw the child in jail where, owing to community fears, he was locked up for 34 days. But interviews with students and staff members suggest that every element in this narrative -- aside from the fact the defendant read aloud a story about a boy blowing up a school -- is false. Numerous sources, including four students in the boy's drama class who were present when Twisted was presented, report he was neither disciplined nor criticized by school officials for presenting his monologue. "Everyone is concentrating on his class composition," says John Beveridge, executive assistant to the director of education of the Upper Canada District School Board. "But when everything in the course of time is revealed, I'm quite confident it will be shown that the Board and those involved are getting a bad rap." Already, the school has disclosed the boy was not suspended and the police not consulted until allegations surfaced that he made direct face-to-face threats to Tagwi students in the days following the monologue. Three of the four criminal charges against the boy pertain to alleged death threats to specific classmates. It also turns out the Crown had nothing to do with the boy's 34 days in jail. His bail hearing was delayed at least three times -- always at the urging of defence counsel. And yet one newspaper article published on Jan. 8 led with the chilling words, "Writers beware -- your imagination could land you in jail," and quoted Frank Horn, the boy's lawyer, as saying: "Does this mean writers will have to worry whether they're breaking the law with every sentence they write? ... Can their imagination break the law?" This is the purportedly the first free speech case Mr. Horn has taken; his usual trade is defending small-time criminals on charges of assault and public drunkenness. Nevertheless, his comments have been reported widely, angering many at Tagwi, who feel their school has been unfairly maligned. "I think it's always easier to focus on the individual who [says he's] oppressed," says Art Buckland, the Upper Canada District School Board representative for the Avonmore area. "You can imagine a defence lawyer playing up the free speech angle. He loves it." Mary Mayer, Tagwi's principal, has denied Mr. Horn's suggestions all along. She believes because the school's account of events has gone largely unreported, the public is misinformed. The fact is the school's decision to discipline the boy and consult police was based on an alleged pattern of direct threats -- not the content of the monologue. The controversy might have been cut short following the boy's bail hearing, at which the Crown presented its charges. But the presiding justice of the peace, Basile Marchand, declared a publication ban, so the dozen reporters present could not publish details of
[CTRL] Has Ray been bought?
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21511 Ray shuts down Project X probe Independent counsel closes investigation into missing White House e-mails, threats By Paul Sperry 2001 WorldNetDaily.com WASHINGTON -- After 10 months on the case, Independent Counsel Robert Ray has closed his criminal investigation into whether the White House withheld subpoenaed e-mails and threatened workers to keep quiet about it. "All matters within the Lewinsky jurisdiction are now closed, including the e-mail matter," said Keith Ausbrook, senior counsel in the Office of Independent Counsel, in a statement to WorldNetDaily. Ray decided not to seek an indictment against former President Clinton for lying under oath in the Paula Jones sexual-harassment lawsuit against him, which named as a witness Clinton's White House mistress Monica Lewinsky. He dismissed a federal grand jury that was hearing the perjury case after cutting a deal with Clinton's personal lawyer that required Clinton to confess to making false statements and give up his law license for five years. Ausbrook declined to give a reason why Ray also closed the e-mail case, which was known inside the White House as "Project X." "It was the judgment of our office that, in concluding the Lewinsky matter, that matter should be included as well," he said. Ausbrook says Ray took the e-mail case because it potentially touched on other investigations under his jurisdiction. The 1996-1998 gap in Executive Office of the President (EOP) e-mails includes messages sent by Lewinsky. Computer contractors and former White House workers have testified the trove also includes e-mails related to Filegate and other Clinton scandals, such as Chinagate. "If they [White House officials] withheld e-mail from us, it cut across our other investigations," Ausbrook explained. Last year, Ray impaneled a criminal grand jury to hear the case. In April, the grand jury subpoenaed the National Archives for any information that could shed light on the records-keeping practices of the EOP. Jurors also heard from White House witnesses such as Terry Misich, the military detailee tasked with recovering the lost e-mail. Since March, the Justice Department also has been investigating Project X, as part of its special campaign-finance probe, which encompasses Chinagate. Justice spokesman John Russell on Thursday said the campaign-finance task force is still actively investigating the missing e-mails and threats. Sheryl Hall, the former White House computer manager who blew the whistle on Project X, said she is "outraged" that Ray folded his probe. She called it "cowardly." "Government workers came forward at great career risk and personal risk," she said, "and now we're being told it was all for naught?" She and former Northrop Grumman contractor Betty Lambuth both told their stories to Ray's investigators last year. "People were threatened -- and there was good reason why they were threatened," she added. "They [White House officials] were trying to hide evidence of criminal wrongdoing." Hall said it looks to her like Ray's decision was based on political considerations rather than legal ones. She speculates that he likely didn't want to cause further embarrassment for an outgoing president and undue burden for an incoming president. Judicial Watch General Counsel Larry Klayman, who's trying to recover the missing e-mails as part of his Filegate lawsuit against the White House, was more blunt. "Ray took a dive," said Klayman, who also represents Hall. "He shut down Filegate. He shut down Travelgate. He shut down Lewinsky," he said. "He doesn't want to uncover any e-mails that would prove him wrong in clearing Clinton in these scandals." WorldNetDaily Ray shuts down Project X probe.url
[CTRL] [Fwd: Behind the California Blackouts]
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: Behind the California Blackouts Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 23:11:22 -0600 (CST) From: Institute for Public Accuracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: ? To: undisclosed-recipients:; Institute for Public Accuracy 915 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045 (202) 347-0020 * http://www.accuracy.org * [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Wednesday, January 24, 2001 BEHIND THE CALIFORNIA BLACKOUTS MEDEA BENJAMIN, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.powertothepeople.org Founding director of Global Exchange and spokesperson for the Campaign for Public Power Now, a new coalition of consumer, community and environmental groups, Benjamin said today: "Dozens of municipalities throughout the state, including Los Angeles and Sacramento, have no power crisis because they publicly own and control their power systems Governor Gray Davis should use the power of eminent domain to take over the generation, transmission and distribution of electricity. Politicians should give back the money their campaigns got from the utility industry and fight for the interests of consumers, not grossly mismanaged utility companies." TYSON SLOCUM, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.citizen.org/cmep Senior researcher at Public Citizen, Slocum said today: "What we're seeing in California is price manipulation by the handful of power producers who exert total market control over the wholesale market. This manipulation is clear: The amount utilities paid for wholesale power in November and December 2000 exceeded by 28 percent the amount the utilities paid for wholesale power during all 12 months of 1999 The seven biggest unregulated energy companies operating in California posted $4.6 billion in after-tax profit since the May 2000 price spikes -- a 57 percent increase from the same period in '99 George W. Bush has said that the crisis is a state, not a federal, issue. He couldn't be more wrong. The federal government, through the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, has the authority to set cost-based rates on California power producers." HARVEY WASSERMAN, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.nirs.org Author of the just-released book "The Last Energy War: The Battle Over Utility Deregulation," Wasserman said today: "California's dereg disaster took root in 1996, when the state's three dominant utilities banded together to force on the ratepayers what they expected to be 'the largest corporate rip-off in American business history,' as Ralph Nader has put it. Some consumer and environmental groups were furious over a wide range of issues, most notably bailouts of utilities' nuclear reactors. So in 1998, a broad coalition put a repeal on the ballot. Initial polls showed them winning repeal by wide margins. Then the utilities spent more than $40 million, calling in their chits with labor, ethnic and other organizations around the state. The repeal went down, 70-30." GREGORY PALAST, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.GregoryPalast.com Palast is founder of Public Utilities Reform Group (UK) and author of "Democratic Regulation." Britain has been the model for electric deregulation. Palast is also a columnist for the British newspaper the Observer. He said today: "The California blackouts are a simple case of greed run amuck, predictable and predicted. The big winners in this monstrosity are Enron -- the largest career contributor to George W. Bush -- and other energy companies who have strangled the market. 'Deregulation' is a lie -- it is simply moving regulation from democratic government agencies to an unelected circle of market manipulators." For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy: Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020; David Zupan, (541) 484-9167 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to
[CTRL] [Fwd: Fast Track Again]
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: Fast Track Again Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 22:06:07 -0600 (CST) From: Michael Eisenscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: ? To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Fwd: NEW What the Democrats are Doing Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 10:24:09 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Track is going to be one of the most important first struggles against the Bush administration as it was against the Clinton administration. Their positions are the same. "Give me fast track and I will push through the new Free Trade Area of the Americas." In the documents on this new free trade initiative that have just been released, all of the most horrendous free trade efforts are coming around again. The things that we had defeated, with the huge help of the Europeans who first exposed it, we defeated the Multilateral Agreement on Investment. In the new FTAA, it is fully developed. It would allow corporations to sue nations -- all nations-- that stand in the way of corporate profits. This means that any country that continues to want to control its own health care institutions, schools, postal services, water, electricity, environmental protection, nursing care, elder care, social security, etc. will be subject to suit supported by the dispute mechanism of the World Trade Organization unless they allow the corporations to take over and make profits on these public services. It is important for us to throw a lot of energy into stopping Fast Track. These horrendous free trade changes are not inevitable. The Europeans have, so far, been able to resist. The Asians are resisting. The attempt now to corral Latin America, the Caribbean, U.S. and Canada into the FTAA as quickly as possible is an attempt to save this effort on the part of the corporations and the free trade consortium. We can stop them. For those who would like to see an analysis of the FTAA, let me know and I will try to e-mail the whole thing to you. I am forwarding an article about the so-called New Democrats who are eager to support Bush in rushing to get fast track so that we can unify our position and our work. Adelante. To POST A MESSAGE to the list, send your message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To SUBSCRIBE, send a blank message (nothing needed in the subject or the body) to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ FAIR USE NOTICE: This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. /=-=-=-=-Click Here Support Our Sponsor-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=\ Buy Shoes Online at Zappos.com: 1. Fast, Reliable Site 2. Devoted Customer Service 3. Great Shoe Selection 4. Price, Fit, and Satisfaction Guaranteed. http://click.topica.com/aaabe7b1dc1Ab1jclkc/Zappos \=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=/ __ You can subscribe to Solidarity4Ever by sending a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and unsubscribe by sending an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a read-only list, but if you have an item you want posted, send it to the list moderator at [EMAIL PROTECTED], who will determine whether it is appropriate for redistribution. You can temporarily suspend delivery by sending a request to the same address. Notify the moderator at the time you want delivery resumed. You can also manage this function yourself by going to the list at www.igc.topica.com/lists/Solidarity4Ever. T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the
[CTRL] Unnatural disaster: Deregulated California utilities
-Caveat Lector- Unnatural disaster Deregulated California utilities are electrocuting the public. Ohio is next by Harvey Wasserman Electric utility deregulation has become a spectacular catastrophe, starting in California and stretching deep into our economic and ecological future, here in Ohio and nationwide. To keep it simple, we'll start with the top 10 truths about this unnatural disaster: 1. There is no electric supply shortage threatening California (or the nation), only a series of complex, cynical manipulations that have ramped prices sky high, yielding enormous profits for a few distributors and generators. 2. The deregulation bill at the root of this crisis was drafted by the California utilities now facing bankruptcy and was rammed through the California legislature (unanimously, in 1996) by the utilities' own lobbyists. 3. The Natural Resources Defense Council, through its chief energy spokesperson Ralph Cavanagh, and with support from the Energy Foundation, played a key role in drafting, passing and then defending that bill. 4. But the California bill's catastrophic outcome was accurately predicted in intricate detail by a wide range of grassroots, consumer and environmental groups that challenged the deregulatory scheme in a 1998 statewide referendum. 5. The utilities now screaming for help spent at least $40 million to defeat the referendum that would have saved the state and nation from the current crisis. 6. The utilities now screaming for help walked off with more than $20 billion in "stranded cost" bailouts as part of deregulation, but nobody seems to be able to account for where the money went, nor is there a concrete plan for getting that money back. 7. The consuming public would gain, not lose, if the utilities now threatening to go bankrupt actually did go bankrupt, and the public then took over the utilities. 8. The public-owned utilities that supply Los Angeles and Sacramento are prospering in the midst of this crisis, proving once again that public power is the answer to the nation's long-term energy needs. 9. Those municipal utilities are deeply invested in energy efficiency and renewable sources (wind and solar), which has provided them with a stable supply in the midst of the crisis. 10. Any new electricity production added to the state and national grid should come from wind, which is the cheapest and fastest-to-build new power source, and from solar power, which can be installed on rooftops and at industrial sites, freeing homeowners and businesses from the lethal fluctuation of monopoly manipulations. The core of the California power crisis is simple: The utilities got greedy. They thought they were taking the electricity business into a brave and profitable new millennium. Instead, they threw it back to a chaotic old century. In the 1880s, when Thomas Edison and others first made electricity a salable commodity, rampant competition created chaos. Wires were strung everywhere, power plants popped up in bad places, service was abominable. But as the Morgans and Rockefellers inevitably swooped in to create stable monopolies, the public rebelled against price gouging and centralized private control. The barons who gobbled up the revolutionary new technology were confronted with the threat of being taken over by angry consumers. So Samuel Insull, the godfather of the new industry, came up with a compromise--regulation. From 1907 through 1920, virtually every state established its own regulatory commission to set rates and monitor growth and service in the electric power business. But the state commissions were rapidly taken over by the utilities themselves, and there were extensive flaws in the scheme, most notably its propensity to encourage the construction of massively expensive, inefficient and dirty power plants. Along the way, massive abuses brought on the New Deal installation of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission and other national controls. Since then, state and federal regulation has provided the nation with a relatively stable and reliable electric supply system. It has been stodgy and short on technical innovation. It has also stemmed the tide of public power, which still, where it's in place, provides cheaper and more reliable electricity than private investor-owned utilities, regulated or otherwise. And, in fact, regulation is still in place in 27 states. Though Texas has insisted on deregulating in the midst of the California debacle, the chaos in the Golden State has pretty much stopped what looked like a national avalanche of state deregulations. In California, the disaster has taken the form of a mafia-style shakedown. As a price for ending regulation, the utilities demanded a $28.5 billion "stranded cost" bailout for their bad investments, most importantly their obsolete, super-expensive nuclear power plants (in Ohio the "stranded cost" tab has been more like $9 billion). What happened to that money, nobody seems to know. Southern
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Madam Kangaroo Mutates to Madam Halfbright (TiM GW Bulletin 2001/1-3, Jan. 26, 2001)
-Caveat Lector- --- "Mrs. Jela Jovanovic" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "A mere prosecutor of a kangaroo court telling the world's heads of state,including the new White House occupant who pays most of her salary, what they must do." Nakano Comments: No American should be put on trial in any "international court". But if one ever is, I have a suggestion for who should be the first. Bill Clinton signed a last minute Executive Order which unlawfully makes Americans subject to the jurisdiction of International Courts. The first American who should be put on trial before the UN War Crimes Tribunal is Bill Clinton. Do you recall that just as Congress began the impeachment hearings, Clinton personally ordered a U.S. cruise missile attack on a Sudanese pharmaceutical factory? This military attack on a foreign country was a calculated diversionary tactic. That sounds like a "warcrime" to me. Turned out the Clinton Administration had to admit those "Monica Missiles" blew up a medicine factory. Ol Slick wouldn't have signed that Executive Order if he thought it might apply to him one day. Regards to all Nakano __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: [CTRL] Strange Burnings
-Caveat Lector- This story of spontaneous burning - years ago I ran into this stuff and decided some were mafia murders. So what is down in Pike County? Bootleggers with connectin to police, running illegal booze and the one case I know of personally - was a restaurant with the man who was involved with several people, with connections to Meyer Lansky for this is how it was then, when I was a researcher being observed by those with inside track on many other murders... They were murderers - and eventually this place of all things - caught fire -rather mysterious, said possible electrical problem? But the fire seemed located in the basement where this element, and all were Jewish Mafia, stashed their neo nazi literature - So I know for a fact that stills can be very dangerous and observed the people in this restaurant in this huge basement area, pouring booze from big jugs, into bottles. I said nothing, for I was no snitch - just a researcher democrat at a party - but later this bunch turned on the owner of the restaurant, and ended up in control of estate stealing over 3 million dollars, a banker allegedly suicided (big crock) and this was a group of nice people .and the last thing this man told me, for he wanted me to know, was that Hoffa was alive in Canada and had had plastic surgery - the boat in which he viritually escaped was called The Great Escape.some say this man was CIA however, they would have you believe they were CIA..for they were the enemy within.. It seems, however, this part of Kentucky was notorious for the sitlls, etc.Five men in a car, were they hunters - who were they - were they bootleggers getting into someone elses's territory. Later in the 70 period, Meyer Lansky and his henchmen were scouting oil and gas fields in Ohio and in Kentucky.might add Klebold kid's parents got into this stuff and left Ohio..the grandfather had connections to these people. So unless like the lady who before attempting to emerge from her car to go to a party, sprayed her hair with hair spray, lit a cigarette and the car inside virtually exploded.see how dangerous an aerosol can can really be - noting of course the contents. Piketown, KY.lot going on down there, and this mafia thing has control of everything now virtually except the government - look at California and then picture say Ohio someday and follow the footsteps of Orpheus. Note the guy who was involved someway with death of Princess Diana, found in his little white fiat, burnt to death..suicided? So looks like someone rubbed out some competition..and police were involved in the booze running up to Ohio, also brought in were cigarettes with no Ohio tax - Treasurer of State of Ohio as in this restaurant once for a dinner for the democrats when they were democrats and one of her crew noted the tax stamps missing from the cigarettes. And this is really cute - a criminal element started rumor the kids reporting same were smoking pot at this affair. An attorney who came in to try to straighten out the mess was later sent to prison in a deal involving gas and oil swindleshe then disappeared when released from prison however, I was advised this man was a traveling man .. During this time from from 1964 into early 1970 period there were two murderers loose - one called the Tingler who was known as Route 40 murderer and the other the 22 Caliber Killer and both had connections to this same bunch.maybe 20 pepole or more murdered incuding two attorneies - one found hanging in a stair well, a suicide and so I kept tract of stuff like this. Meyer Lansky had a long arm which reached into the gas and oil fields in this area, and stayed at a farm where a mafia "made man' lived, who had a crooked nose, made straight, by a plastic surgeon. So spontaneous combustion - in Kentucky - looks like the hunters became the hunted Under J. Edgar Hoover we had a real FBI comprised of honorable men..they knew the enemy..a book by Hoover Masters of Deceit is well worth reading and also a story about a man called the Raven who knew both sides of the fence and talked their language and once gave a mafiaso a hand grip which almost knocked him over backwrds, for this secret Mafia hand shake is similar to something else - Wonder who the men were incinerated in this automobile - sounds like guns, bootlegging, and even to running cigarettes - any police involved here? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and
[CTRL] Fw: [PCL] Humor
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[CTRL] War in space.
-Caveat Lector- http://www.herald.com/thispage.htm?content/today/opinion/digdocs/037340.htm === + = OPINION Published Friday, January 26, 2001, in the Miami Herald by Ira Chernus Rumsfeld preparing for war in space? Last century, in times of peace, U.S. military researchers were busy inventing new weapons for the next war. New Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld seems determined to lead us now under the banner of ``While you have peace on Earth, prepare for war in space. As Rumsfeld takes office, we should demand a public debate on his favorite cause: the militarization of space. Otherwise, we may plunge blindly into the era of space warfare that Pentagon-paid scientists already are planning. The military-technology wizards flourish in times of relative tranquillity. From 1871 to 1914, Europeans enjoyed a peace that many thought would never end. Hence their shock when they saw in World War I the horrors of machine guns, tanks, submarines and poison gas. After the war, the shock waves reached the United States. American leaders signed a treaty purporting to outlaw war in 1928; by 1935, thousands of young men had added their names to a formal pledge never to take up arms again. But in the meantime devotees of aerial warfare were designing new armaments: bombers carrying massive bombs, aircraft carriers launching deadly fighter and torpedo planes. Even as newspapers reported in- vestigations of ``the munitions makers of World War I, there was little public notice, let alone discussion, of the new weapons systems. Only sci-fi devotees even imagined the discoveries that were paving the way for the most monstrous bombs of all. When public debate erupted after Hiroshima and Nagasaki, it was too late. In the post-Cold War era of peace, weapons development continues at U.S. nuclear laboratories, which plan to test the next generation of bombs on computers rather than under the ground. But who's paying attention? The real challenge with both nuclear and conventional weapons is figuring out where to use them and ensuring that they hit their intended targets. Military-might advocates have a passionate booster in Rumsfeld. The Air Force's Space Command boasts that it can develop computerized satellites that will tell U.S. commanders everything that is happening, at every moment, everywhere in the world. It also promises that these satellites will guide U.S. weapons precisely to the target every time. It has spent billions of dollars preparing for the militarization of space. But it wants much more.Military-might advocates have a passionate booster in the defense secretary. We already have more destructive power than any one nation, or even the world as a whole, could possibly use. We have that power because of another revolution in military technology that went largely unnoticed. During the detente of the late 1960s and 1970s, the weapons designers went as far as they could with big, unwieldy, city-busting bombs. So they invented a new generation of ``smaller strategic weapons, precision-guided by computers, mounted eight or 10 at a time on a single warhead. Apart from a brief flap over defensive-missile systems, there was scarcely any public interest. The Space Command plans to use its satellite-and-computer network not only for guiding these weapons but to destroy enemy satellites. They hope to get a bigger piece of the budgetary pie. George W. Bush's selection of Rumsfeld indicates that the new administration wants to cut the pie very much to the Space Command's liking. The only part of the plan getting scrutiny, now as in the 1960s, is missile defense. Space-war boosters count on National Missile Defense to ensure full-spectrum dominance, to spin off the technology that space wars will require and to get us to pay for it all. Rumsfeld's passions for missile defense and for space weapons are two sides of the same coin. Once the Pentagon tosses that coin, there will be no way to stop an arms race in space, the costs of which, in money and eventually in human lives, is incalculable. Now is the time for a public debate on this subject. Peacetime is the time to pay attention to the new war technology. After the next war, it may be too late. -- Ira Chernus is a religious-studies professor at the University of Colorado at Boulder and a History News Service writer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence
Re: [CTRL] Murderer as peacemaker?
-Caveat Lector- goolie smith wrote: -Caveat Lector- What are you on man ? Ariel Sharon, was found directly responsible for massacres of palestinians in UN shelters. Actally, he was found INDIRECTLY responsible. The killings were done against his direct orders by a Syrian opperative who was a Christian Phalangist. If you want to know more about this, see... *From Israel to Damascus* on the Net. A book written by one of the Phalangist militiamen who actually did the killing. Joshua2 Mere civilans just trying to survive in UN encampments, when along comes 'the buldozer'. It wasnt even 2 or 20 people that he was responsible for killing, the total tally reached the hundreds. The next time you see Yasser Arafat/Ariel Sharon talking politely to Ted Koppel on "Nightline," I want you to remember that behind that phony smile is the conscience of a killer. He's the premeditated murderer of U.S. diplomats/hundreds of humans. The next time you hear about the need for a Palestinian state/security, I want you to remember that the leader for life of that nation will be Yasser Arafat/Ariel Sharon. Does that really sound like the foundation for a permanent peace? See it works both ways From: Amelia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Murderer as peacemaker? Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 01:01:26 -0600 -Caveat Lector- Murderer as peacemaker? 2001 WorldNetDaily.com How would you like it if millions of your hard-earned tax dollars were sent to a little foreign dictator who murdered two American diplomats and got away with it? I'm sure you would not be a happy camper. Well, as much as I hate to upset you, dear readers, that is precisely what is happening with the millions of dollars the U.S. is transferring in foreign aid to Yasser Arafat and his Palestine Authority. Maybe you didn't know about Arafat's murderous record before. For that you can be excused, because the establishment press has not done much to expose this petty tyrant -- this killer of unarmed, innocent Americans simply doing their country's diplomatic duty. But once I tell you the details of this heinous crime -- this unforgivable act of bloodlust -- you won't have any excuses, anymore. If you don't act -- if you don't scream about it to your elected officials in Washington -- then you, too, will be tacitly guilty of rewarding a cowardly killer for his evil deeds. Here are the facts, as I revealed in a news story in WorldNetDaily last week: On Feb. 28, 1973, Yasser Arafat was overheard by Israeli and U.S. intelligence operatives planning a Black September terrorist operation in Khartoum, Sudan. His transmissions were tape-recorded. They were transcribed, and warnings were issued by National Security Agency personnel to the U.S. Embassy in Sudan. Unfortunately, the alert was delayed because of a bureaucratic snafu. A day later, eight Black September terrorists stormed the Saudi Arabian embassy in Khartoum and grabbed U.S. Ambassador Cleo Noel, Charge d'Affaires George Curtis Moore and others hostage. On March 2, 1973, after the terrorists' demands for the release of Sirhan Sirhan, Robert F. Kennedy's assassin, were rebuffed by President Nixon, Arafat was heard and recorded, once again, providing the code words for the execution of Noel, Moore and Belgian diplomat Guy Eid. They were machine-gunned to death. Until last week, no American involved in this tragedy had spoken out on the details of that tragedy. But 28 years later, James Welsh, the Palestinian analyst for the NSA who issued the first alert on the incident, went public with charges of a cover-up of Arafat's key role in the planning and execution of the attack. Think about it. Yasser Arafat just visited the White House a few weeks ago. He has won the Nobel Peace Prize. He is heralded as a moderating force for compromise in the Middle East. Yet, the truth is, he is a cold-blooded murderer of innocent Americans. "No one wants to touch this thing," Welsh says. "It's a hot potato. No one wants to be responsible for derailing the Mideast peace process." But Welsh thinks the American people, who are footing much of the bill for Arafat's current activities, have a right to know about his personal responsibility for the murder of two Americans. And he is the first American involved directly in the affair to charge publicly what has long been rumored -- that Arafat ordered the embassy takeover and the murders of the American diplomats. "I have decided that my oaths of secrecy must give way to my sense of right and wrong," he told WorldNetDaily. While there is no statute of limitations on murder, one critical piece of evidence needed for an indictment is missing -- the tape-recordings. They have never been produced by the NSA, the Central Intelligence Agency or the State Department. "These tapes do
[CTRL] So what else is new? OR Some assholes never learn.
-Caveat Lector- Environment [25]ENS -- Environment News Service By Brian Hansen WASHINGTON, DC, January 24, 2001 (ENS) - Al Gore, the self-styled environmental candidate in the 2000 Presidential election, lost his bid for the White House because he campaigned on an outdated "populist" platform that was too liberal for most Americans, according to a new report drafted by the Democratic Leadership Council. The report, titled "Why Gore Lost, And How Democrats Can Come Back," was unveiled this morning by Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) officials at a news conference at the National Press Club in Washington. The DLC's 40 page report concludes that the Democratic Party must move towards the political right - towards the Republicans - if it wants to regain control of Congress in 2002 and the White House in 2004. Gore Democrat Al Gore, who ran on an environmental platform, lost his bid for the White House because he cast himself as a liberal, concludes a new report released by the Democratic Leadership Council (Photo courtesy Office of Vice President Al Gore) Al From, the DLC's founder and CEO, opened the freewheeling discussion forum this morning by arguing that Democrat Al Gore made a huge tactical mistake by continually emphasizing that he would "fight for the people and not the powerful" as the nation's first president of the 21st Century. "Gore chose a populist rather than a new Democrat message, and as a result, voters viewed him as too liberal and identified him as an advocate of big government," From said. "By emphasizing class warfare, [Gore] seemed to be talking to industrial age rather than information age America." From said that in order to be successful in future elections, the Democratic Party needs to forge a "new progressive majority for the information age." Such a coalition, From said, must "expand beyond the Democratic base" that was borne out of the progressive movements that arose during the first half of the 20th Century. The Democratic Party, From said, must reach out to moderates "and even some conservatives" if it hopes to regain power in Washington. "Al Gore failed to put together such a new progressive coalition," From said. "The result [was] what should have been a comfortable Gore victory became a virtual tie." DLC: GORE SHOULD HAVE WON EASILY WITHOUT FLORIDA The extraordinary 2000 presidential election was a virtual dead heat between Gore and Republican George W. Bush, the two term governor of Texas. Though Gore narrowly won the popular vote, the two term Vice President lost the electoral college count, and thus, the White House. While experts have attributed Gore's loss to a host of factors, much of the attention was focused on the state of Florida, where the vote count was debated for weeks in the courts. In a controversial move, the U.S. Supreme Court ultimately halted all recount efforts in the state, leaving Bush with a razor thin margin of victory that propelled him into the White House. Despite lingering allegations that Gore, in fact, carried the state of Florida, the election should not have been so close, said From. "Given the fundamental conditions in the country, the outstanding record of the Clinton/Gore administration and the Vice President's own record of achievement, I believe Al Gore should have won a solid victory," said From, noting that a host of political science models projected that Gore would prevail by some 10 percentage points. Democrats Gore, right, on a campaign stop with Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman, the number two man on the Democratic Party's 2000 Presidential ticket. Lieberman is the current chairman of the Democratic Leadership Council. (Photo courtesy Gore/Lieberman 2000) From noted that Gore lost every income category of voters who earned more than $50,000 a year - the most rapidly growing part of the American electorate. Moreover, Gore lost middle class voters by one percent, and upper class voters by an even wider margin, From said. Gore carried "moderate" bloc voters by eight points, but that was not nearly enough to offset Bush's margins elsewhere, From said. Bill Clinton, From noted, won moderate bloc voters by a whopping 24 points in 1996. DLC DISPUTES SIGNIFICANCE OF NADER'S VOTES From rejected the argument that the so called "populist" message was vindicated by adding Gore's vote total to that compiled by Ralph Nader, the insurgent Green Party Presidential Candidate. Nader, vilified as a "spoiler" by many DLC Democrats, won about three percent of the popular vote nationwide and more than 97,000 votes in the state of Florida - more than enough to have won the White House for Gore. From said that a combined Gore/Nader vote total does not justify the soundness of the populist message, which he
[CTRL] WP: Re. Rich Pardon: A Pardon Deserved
-Caveat Lector- A Pardon Deserved By Jack Quinn Friday, January 26, 2001 ; Page A23 The rhetoric, inaccuracies and media frenzy in the wake of the announcement of a pardon for Marc Rich demonstrate why that pardon by President Clinton had become the only solution to resolve a nearly 20-year-old but fundamentally flawed indictment. This pardon was granted strictly on its legal merits. First, one must understand that Clinton insisted that Marc Rich agree to drop procedural defenses against civil actions that might be brought against him by the United States upon his return. Rich has not escaped potential liability for his actions -- only the overreaching criminal prosecution to which he should never have been subject. This is the heart of the matter. Based on a review of the merits, Rich should not have been subject to criminal charges. This is among the precise situations for which the presidential pardon was intended. Here are the facts. The case grew out of the 1970s Arab oil embargo and energy regulation designed to keep prices on existing oil production at 1973 levels, but there were many exceptions. As a result, major U.S. oil producers had a powerful incentive to avoid the impact of the regulations. The U.S. oil companies did this by dealing with international oil resellers to "link" regulated oil transactions with unregulated ones. In 1980-81, two Swiss companies associated with Marc Rich engaged in a series of such linked transactions, typical of those engaged in during this period, involving U.S. oil companies. In accordance with the law, the Rich companies treated payments attributable to the offshore aspects of the transactions as being exempt from U.S. taxes and price controls. With oil companies under scrutiny, the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, Rudolph Giuliani, focused his attention on the Marc Rich companies and ambitiously turned the proper reporting treatment of these complex corporate transactions -- essentially a civil allocation dispute -- into a highly politicized criminal tax and energy fraud case alleging that domestic oil revenues were improperly diverted offshore. As if that weren't enough, the indictment included racketeering charges despite the Justice Department's acknowledgment years ago that racketeering charges should not be leveled in tax cases. Yet, none of the major U.S. oil companies that structured these transactions was ever prosecuted criminally. Indeed, when the Department of Energy examined the transactions, it concluded that one oil company had improperly failed to account for the linked transactions, violating the regulation's prohibition on excess pricing. At the same time, the department said that the Marc Rich companies had properly accounted for the transactions. The U.S. oil companies were pursued only in civil proceedings for their actions. Yet for the past 17 years, the U.S. attorney has maintained a criminal indictment against Marc Rich. The indictment relies on a position directly opposite to the finding by the Energy Department that the accounting by the Marc Rich companies was proper. The position taken by Rich is supported by two of the leading tax authorities in the country, professors Bernard Wolfman of Harvard University and Martin Ginsburg of Georgetown University. There were other questionable charges as well. Inflammatory accusations of illegal trading with Iran were leveled but subsequently challenged by the companies and later dropped. Equally incorrect is the claim that as a former White House counsel, I violated the Clinton executive order banning White House contacts for five years after government service. In fact, that order makes an exception for "communicating . . . with regard to . . . a criminal or civil law enforcement . . . proceeding." Moreover, I notified the deputy attorney general two months before the pardon was granted that I would be filing an application in the Rich matter with the White House, and I encouraged the White House counsel to seek the Justice Department's views. I did not attempt to circumvent the Justice Department. I am not surprised by much of the confusion over the Rich case, because despite changes in how the law must be applied, the indictment still stands in its original form. When I made these arguments in 1999 to the U.S. attorney and asked to enter into negotiations for resolution of the case, I met with a dead end. Other lawyers for Rich had met with similar recalcitrance in previous years. Rich must first return to the United States to face criminal indictment, we were told. The U.S. attorney holds fast to its view that this case warrants criminal prosecution. Fortunately, under the president's pardon power, a mechanism exists for making a new judgment, based on case merits. The presidential pardon can and should be employed when a president resolves a dispute about whether the law and policies of the Justice Department support the use
[CTRL] NYP: ALL PRESENTS WERE ACCOUNTED FOR, SHE SAYS
-Caveat Lector- ALL PRESENTS WERE ACCOUNTED FOR, SHE SAYS Friday,January 26,2001 By BRIAN BLOMQUIST and DEBORAH ORIN WASHINGTON - Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton yesterday defended taking more than $190,000 in furniture and other gifts from fat cats like Denise Rich, whose ex-husband got a controversial pardon from Bill Clinton. But a top ethics watchdog blasted the New York's Democrat for taking freebies to help furnish her new houses, saying: "It totally smells." Sen. Clinton told The Post: "We followed all the rules that were applicable. That's all I have to say." None of the gifts was revealed during her Senate campaign. All would be barred now - Senate rules say a senator can't take any gift worth more than $50 or a total of $100 from a single person each year. Donors say the gifts were solicited as house-warming presents before the Clintons left the White House. "It does sound like there were deliberate efforts to circumvent the laws . . . I can't think of a time when a U.S. president and first lady have left in a more undistinguished and unbecoming way," said Chuck Lewis, head of the Center for Public Integrity. "I don't know how big the truck was but it must have been pretty big. There is the appearance of them enriching themselves from public service and public life . . . It totally smells. There is something rotten here." The furor over the gifts - which the Clintons didn't reveal until the ex-president's last night in office - erupted just as he handed out a deluge of pardons, including one to Rich's fugitive-financier ex-hubby, Marc. Denise Rich donated an estimated $1 million to the Clintons' campaigns and other Democrats and raised millions more at her posh penthouse on Fifth Avenue. She also gave the Clintons two coffee tables and two chairs worth $7,375 after getting a wish list of items the Clintons wanted last March. "Denise picked the gifts for the Clintons as a house-warming gift in March 2000. She was given a list of suggestions and she chose the items," said her spokesman, Howard Rubenstein. Rich initially denied lobbying for the pardon, but she had sent a Dec. 6 letter begging Clinton to do it "with all my heart." The Clintons kept nearly four times as much as the $52,853 in gifts that President Bush's dad took in his final year in office. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WT: Beijing using front companies to grab U.S. arms technology
-Caveat Lector- January 26, 2001 Beijing using front companies to grab U.S. arms technology By Bill Gertz THE WASHINGTON TIMES China is buying U.S. weapons technology illegally through front companies in Hong Kong and Singapore, U.S. intelligence officials said. According to sensitive intelligence reports, China last month acquired "radiation-hardened" integrated circuits from a U.S. company that were shipped to China from Singapore, said officials familiar with the reports. The Chinese company involved in the diversion was identified as the China Aircraft and Space Technology Co. In a second activity, a Chinese missile-manufacturing firm purchased American-made communications-test equipment from a U.S. company based in Hong Kong. The U.S. company was not identified under intelligence-collection rules. Both sales were reported to senior U.S. officials early last month and are a sign that Beijing is continuing aggressively to acquire U.S. weapons-related goods for its military-modernization program. All military-related goods sold from the United States to China require an export license. However, Chinese companies secretly have been purchasing embargoed technology and hardware under export rules relaxed during the Clinton administration. The intelligence reports bolster the findings of a special congressional committee that stated in a 1999 report that the use of Hong Kong companies "is a common [Chinese] tactic for illegal transfer of technology." In a related development, China is continuing to sell missile-related equipment to Iraq and Iran in apparent violation of its pledge last fall to curb such transfers, said officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity. The officials provided a briefing to The Washington Times to highlight what they said were ongoing Chinese sales of weapons and missile technology to rogue states, in violation of official pledges by Beijing to curtail such transfers. "The Chinese appear to be selling everything to everybody," said one defense official. In November, the Clinton administration announced it would not impose sanctions on China for selling missile technology to Iran and Pakistan after Beijing promised to curb further sales. Iran and Pakistan, however, were slapped with sanctions. A Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman said in a statement at the time that China had no plans "to assist, in any way, any country" developing nuclear-capable ballistic missiles. Regarding the Iraqi missile-related sales, the officials said a delegation of representatives of a Chinese company was set to travel to Iraq last month to discuss the sale of "missile-related guidance and test equipment." The company is offering gear to be used in testing missile inertial guidance systems, which are key components of long-range missile systems. The company was using what U.S. officials said is a "cover name" to mask the true nature of the sales trip. The company was identified as the Shandong Arts and Crafts Co. A Pentagon report on arms proliferation made public earlier this month stated that Iraq is working on two short-range missiles that are providing a base for building long-range missiles, should U.N. sanctions on the country be lifted. The report noted that Iraq "may have ambitions for longer-range missiles, including an ICBM (Intercontinental Ballistic Missile)." Additionally, a Chinese company has recently been shipping specialty metals and chemicals used in missile production to Iran, the officials said. The seller was identified as Norinco, the acronym for China North Industries Co., which was linked by federal investigators in 1996 to smuggling of AK-47 assault rifles in Los Angeles. The Iranian buyer was identified as the Shahid Bakeri Industrial Group, a defense-related company involved in Iran's missile program. The Pentagon report stated that despite "numerous pledges" not to sell weapons to rogue states, "Chinese entities have supported some nuclear, chemical and missile programs in countries of proliferation concern, driven by China's overall strategic interests in South Asia and the Middle East and by domestic economic pressures." The report noted China's sales of missile-related goods to Iran, Libya and North Korea. According to the officials, in addition to its own weapons-proliferation activities, China covertly is helping North Korea buy and sell missile goods. In November, a North Korean company based in China sent specialty steel used in missiles to Egypt, the officials said, noting that the steel is controlled under the 29-nation Missile Technology Control Regime. That same month, the U.S. administration waived sanctions on China based on promises from Beijing to tighten export controls on missile-related goods. Also in November, a North Korean company in Japan purchased a U.S.-made high-speed video camera used in missile development from an unidentified American company. The camera was shipped from the United States to Egypt, and
[CTRL] NYDN: Sect Members Pocketed Funds Stolen cash paid for personal expenses
-Caveat Lector- Sect Members Pocketed Funds Stolen cash paid for personal expenses By GREG B. SMITH New York Daily News Staff Writer The four New Square felons granted clemency by former President Bill Clinton argued they had never benefited personally from the $40 million they stole in government funds. But a detailed examination of the case by the Daily News shows that they used millions in taxpayer dollars to pay for a wide range of personal expenses from rent to diapers to car repairs for themselves and other members of their Rockland County Hasidic sect. The four men Kalmen Stern, David Goldstein, Jacob Elbaum and Benjamin Berger were convicted in January 1999 of stealing millions worth of student Pell grants, housing subsidies and small-business loans. As part of their sentences, they were ordered to make full restitution of the stolen funds. But, The News has learned, it is highly unlikely that any of the $40 million will ever be repaid. Last week, as he left office, Clinton significantly reduced the prison sentences of the four New Square felons weeks after supporters met privately at the White House with the outgoing President and First Lady. Hillary Rodham Clinton, who also met with New Square Hasidic leaders in August, during her Senate campaign, has denied taking a position on the sentence commutation. In the November election, the New Square community voted overwhelmingly for her. In requesting clemency, the felons argued that their crimes were more technical than evil. They also contended they had not gained personally from their fraud, merely using federal funds meant for one good cause to fund other altruistic causes. "The crimes here essentially involved the diversion of funds to other community needs, no personal enrichment," said lawyer Samuel Rosenthal, who handled the commutation application. "Not one of the four had an excessive or elaborate lifestyle, but instead had always lived in the most modest conditions." But the prosecutors who brought the federal case, and evidence produced at trial, indicate otherwise. Elbaum was convicted of illegally pocketing $26,000, Berger $22,000 and Stern $16,464 in housing subsidies. Evidence showed that they lied about their amount of taxable income to qualify for the Department of Housing and Urban Development rent grants. At trial, Assistant U.S. Attorney Deborah Landis told the jury some of the money went for "everything from diapers to car repairs." For example, she said, Goldstein leased an expensive black Acura. Claiming poverty on behalf of Elbaum, lawyer Charles Stillman told The News his client will never be able to repay the HUD subsidies or the $11 million he owes the Department of Education for his role in the Pell grant scam. "My client is as poor as a church mouse," said Stillman. "He is the father of eight children who lives in the most humble of surroundings. He has no money, he has no savings." Most of the government money stolen in the New Square scheme was funneled through Toldos Yakof Yosef a fictitious yeshiva that Assistant U.S. Attorney Joanna Hendon described at trial as "the perfect Pell grant machine." Evidence shows that the phony religious school existed only as an address on Heyward St. in Brooklyn. The New Square community, according to the evidence, illegally used Pell grant funds to buy the building. "Each of the men in this courtroom knowingly and repeatedly, and for profit, affiliated themselves with a monstrous fraud," Hendon said during the two-month trial that ended in January 1999. According to testimony, the four defendants also paid New Square residents to become "students" so they could apply for Pell grants. One "philosophy" student did not speak English or know what a term paper was. The four felons also used some of the government funds to pay themselves salaries as "mentors" and "administrators" in the nonexistent program. At trial, prosecutors Landis and Hendon introduced evidence that the scheme went well beyond Toldos Yakof Yosef. Some of the fake students also supposedly attended other yeshivas in Rockland County and Brooklyn. Also, the four were convicted of setting up a shell corporation to net $100,000 in small-business loans. That money was doled out to various community concerns. Goldstein was convicted of collecting $146,000 in Social Security benefits for a retired couple living in Israel and unaware of the scheme. In a separate case, another New Square leader, Samuel Weissmandl, was convicted of stealing more than $750,000 in federal housing funds from the same pile of federal funds. Among other things, Weissmandl used the money for landscaping services at his and his relatives' homes. He was convicted and is serving prison time. Clinton did not commute his sentence. Original Publication Date: 1/26/01 = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE
[CTRL] JUDICIAL WATCH FILES COMPLAINT AGAINST SENATOR HILLARY
-Caveat Lector- FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 1/26/2001 202-646-5172 JUDICIAL WATCH FILES COMPLAINT AGAINST SENATOR HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON WITH SENATE ETHICS COMMITTEE Inquiry Sought Into Wholesale Gift Grab and Influence Peddling (Washington DC) Judicial Watch, the public interest law firm that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, said today that it is filing a complaint with the Senate Select Committee on Ethics over the conduct of the junior senator from New York, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. Recent press reports have detailed the unprecedented haul the Clintons have removed from The White House at the end of their eight year reign. The Clintons released financial disclosure statements in the closing hours of their White House residency that detail over $190,000 dollars in gifts, china and furniture that Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton will benefit from and enjoy for her personal use. Judicial Watch looks to the Senate Ethics Committee to investigate Senator Clintons conduct and arrive at an appropriate remedy for the junior senators conduct. Senate rules, standards of conduct and federal law all have strict provisions concerning the illegal or improper solicitation and acceptance of gifts. Senator Clintons acceptance of these gifts goes beyond crass, stated Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel Larry Klayman. Hillary Clintons disregard of Senate gift rules and standards of conduct appears to be a violation of law, added Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. To Unsubscribe from this list, please go to http://www.judicialwatch.org/unsubscribe.asp. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] UPI: Intelligence failures and the death of the 18 Rangers
-Caveat Lector- http://www.vny.com/cf/News/upidetail.cfm?QID=155481 Friday, 26 January 2001 21:12 (ET) Intelligence failures and the death of the 18 Rangers By Richard Sale, Terrorism Correspondent WASHINGTON, Jan. 26 (UPI) -- Osama bin Laden, the Saudi-born Islamic terrorist suspect sought by the United States in connection with the August 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, had months earlier been linked to the 1993 deaths of 18 U.S. Rangers in Somalia. A Justice Department indictment of those responsible, however, was suppressed and no action taken, U.S. intelligence sources revealed Friday. The Rangers were part of an abortive U.S. attempt on Oct. 3, 1993, to kidnap two top lieutenants of Somalia's strongman Gen. Mohammed Farrah Aidid. The original CIA plan had been to use a 10-man force, but this was put off by the U.S. military leadership, and the next day a larger force of 160 Delta operators and Rangers was sent in its place. The task force was ambushed and 18 Rangers killed by militia trained by bin Laden, according to former U.S. military and intelligence sources with close knowledge of the incident. Postponement of the "snatch" of the two aides was a "major blunder," according to a U.S. participant in the incident who asked not to be named. According to former U.S. intelligence officials, bin Laden was secretly indicted for the Ranger killings in 1997. "I personally discussed the indictment with the FBI," one former U.S. government source said. But the indictment was later "torn up" and then made part of a public indictment of bin Laden and 17 co-defendants filed in 1998 by the Justice Department following the bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in which 224 people died. The Ranger murders are mentioned specifically on pages 18 and19 of that indictment. According to former U.S. military sources, the U.S. military leadership, led by Adm. Jonathan Howe, senior officer of the U.N. peacekeeping force in Somalia, believed that Aidid's Somalia National Alliance forces were behind the July 12 murder of Pakistani troops in the U.N. force, and that the warlord should be captured and tried as a war criminal. Howe requested a Ranger force to hunt Aidid down. By the early summer of 1993, Aidid began an escalation. There were attacks by Islamic detachments operating out of Aidid-held areas of Mogadishu on U.N. forces, and on June 5, 24 Pakistani soldiers were ambushed and killed. The U.N. promptly declared the SNA "an outlaw faction," according to one U.S. official. On June 12, Aidid and several of his aides left Mogadishu for Khartoum where they attended a People's Arab and Islamic Conference chaired by Hassan Abdallah al-Turabi, a Sudanese leader who sponsored terrorism against the United States and backed the spread of Islam throughout the Horn of Africa, according to U.S. official who spoke to United Press International on condition of not being named. This source said that Turabi had ties to Abdul-Rahman Ahmad Ahmad Ali Tour who had proclaimed the Islamic code or Sharia as the law of Somalia and had henceforth received financial and military aid from Iran and Sudan. "Certainly Gen. Aidid was receiving some technical and logistical aid from Sudan as part of a fledgling military alliance in 1992," this source said. The decision to fight U.S. forces in Somalia was a direct result of Sudan's strategy, according to a U.S. government analyst. Robert Oakley, former U.S. ambassador to Somalia, disagrees, but he concedes that Sudan was very nervous about U.S. intervention: "The Sudanese thought that they were next, that after we were finished in Somalia we would strike at Sudan." The Hezbollah -- the fundamentalist Islamic militia -- for example, published documents at the time alerting factions that Sudan was really the next U.S. target. "It was a totally mistaken idea," he said. But whatever the reason, Aidid began amassing his assets, with Turabi supplying weapons, men and military supplies, according to U.S. officials. According to U.S. government sources there is general agreement that bin Laden was not the master mind or the grand strategist but rather the logistical officer. He had hidden Arab Afghans -- the Islamic volunteer fighters from all over the Middle East who had fought against the Russians during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan -- on his "farms' in Sudan, and he had also smuggled large amounts of money into Ethiopia and Eritrea for purchases of supplies for "Afghan" forces. These sources said that bin Laden led a clandestine effort to move militant "Afghans" into Somalia through third countries like Ethiopia and Eritrea, providing lodging, trucks, fuel water, weapons, ammunition, explosives and medical kits, and establishing resupply points. According to current and former U.S. intelligence sources, the on-site commander and field coordinator in Mogadishu, working with Aidid, was Ayman al-Zawahiri, an Egyptian militant who is
Re: [CTRL] Q-Who will MOST BENEFIT By School Vouchers???
-Caveat Lector- Gee, most good private schools charge upward of $10-15,000 a year per student. What good is a $1,500 voucher going to do to get kids into "good" private schools? And where will the country be when its children know their Bible but can't study science because it contradicts their belief in creationism? All basic education is about 1.) teaching basic skills such as the three Rs and b.) teaching "facts." Except for certain established areas of science and math, "facts" are open to interpretation. You can call this propaganda if you wish. Then you get down to which propaganda you prefer: church or state. Even within church and state groups there are areas of violent disagreement when it comes to the "facts." There have been wars and massacres around interpreting religious "fact." Will either group teach young people how to think critically and draw their own conclusions? That educational focus is exceedingly rare, even at highest levels of education. $1,500 vouchers has to be a bogus argument. sno0wl A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Feb 6 - Get Ready For Prime Minister Sharon
Well looks like Barak aka Brugg may need a new PR man? May need to seek out city of refuge? Next goes Blair hopefully So the writing is on the wall and it isn't even November Why does Osama bin Laden smile - with a 5 million dollar price on his head placed there by little Madelline Albright, his people are loyal to him ..why does Sadaam Hussein smile? His people are loyal and maybe someone will step in an stop this stuff - very simple, cut off all monies to Israel and stop talking peace while preparing for the armageddon? Think of domestic jews and moslems as say, the American Indian? And chickens coming home to roost in Holy Land and cui bono? This hotel business can be very lucrative.somehow I have feeling arabs sincere about worshiping Allah and there are still those who worship the golden calf or is that a red heifer? ___ __ / |/ / /___/ / /_ //M I D - E A S T R E A L I T I E S / /|_/ / /_/_ / /\\ Making Sense of the Middle East /_/ /_/ /___/ /_/ \\http://www.MiddleEast.Org PLEASE TELL YOUR FRIENDS ABOUT MER To receive MER regularly just email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] UPCOMING TOMORROW FROM MER: "The End of Israel?" Arafat Fears Label As Benedict Arnold Rather than George Washington THE ELECTION CAMPAIGN: THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL by Hemi Shalev [Ma'ariv - 21 January -Translated from Hebrew}: The new Ma'ariv-Gallop poll questioned a particularly large sample of 1,100 people, putting special emphasis on the Arab population and new immigrants. Its principle conclusion is clear and unequivocal: on February 6, Israel will have a new Prime Minister. Chances are it will be Ariel Sharon. Only in theory is there a slight chance it will actually be Shimon Peres. What is certain, unless there is a cataclysmic event that changes the way the world works, Ehud Barak is going to lose these elections, probably big time. Polls can be wrong, but not that wrong. The incredible gap between Sharon and Barak remains stable, around 20 percent. The election broadcasts have not helped; Barak's frequent media interviews have made no difference, and the negative campaign against Sharon hasn't done a thing. When that is the situation 18 days prior to elections, the expression "not taking off" is the height of tactfulness. The writing is clearly on the wall. The public simply does not like Barak. Full stop. That is what the new poll shows. When you add to that the epileptic peace process, the deteriorating security situation, and a widespread feeling, even if not completely justified, of a worsening economy, you get a sure recipe for certain knockout for the Prime Minister. Barak's decision to advance the elections seems, in retrospect, one of the biggest slip-ups in the history of Israeli politics. In military terms, Barak is reminiscent of the famous American General George Custer, who became known as a brave commander who consciously led his soldiers, against all reason and with impossible inferiority, to a fatal loss against the Sioux Indians. The Americans dubbed the 1876 battle at Little Big Horn, Montana, "Custer's last stand,". Custer and his soldiers became famed for their bravery, but the bottom line is they were all massacred. Now, in their time of distress, Barak's advisors are trying to shift the blame to Peres. They claim Barak voters will continue to remain undecided as long as Peres is a present-absentee candidate. They are forgetting that Barak's public standing began to fall to hitherto unknown depths long before anyone even breathed the name Shimon Peres. The poll shows that even if Peres were to clearly leave the race with determination, it would change nothing in terms of Barak. Barak swore this week that he would not leave the arena. It will be very difficult for him to release himself from this vow, and it is not so clear he would want to. From his tone in private conversation, it is very possible Barak himself would prefer to have Sharon as Prime Minister and not Peres. The way to ensure that, for now, is to stay in the race to the very end. "Only Barak will bring Sharon," a frustrated left-winger said this week, paraphrasing the Likud slogan. At any rate, Peres is far from being a sure thing. Although the public has great sympathy for him, the polls foresee a tie, and based on past experience, Peres is a sure loser in tie situations. A lot will depend on organization and motivation, and the Likud has an incredible advantage in both these. But at least Peres would lose honorably. One cannot say even that about Barak. Head to Head Q: If elections for the premiership were held today and the candidates were Ehud Barak and Ariel Sharon, for whom would you vote? Sharon - 51% (50% last week); Barak- 31% (same as last week); Blank ballot/don't know - 18% Q: Suppose Shimon Peres
[CTRL] Capitalism at work: Profits for them. Bailouts for us.
-Caveat Lector- Subject: SL Scandal Then, Utilities Bailout Now Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 22:22:50 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The network news is finally starting to shine the spotlight brightly on Bush buddy and energy deregulation mastermind Ken Lay of Enron, publicly pointing out that last year --just a few months before the so-called "energy crisis"-- HIS multi-billion-dollar corporation (which sells the natural gas that mostly fuels electrical power plants) reported a 500% profit -- which is no longer that unusual, thanks to "deregulation." Calif. Pols Avoiding 'Bailout' Term By JOSEPH B. VERRENGIA .c The Associated Press SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) - No one trying to solve California's power crisis wants to utter the b-word to describe the multibillion-dollar plan that would keep the lights on while rescuing the state's two largest utilities. ``It's not a bailout,'' Gov. Gray Davis hastened to say after the proposal emerged this week. Assembly Speaker Robert Hertzberg said: ``It's not just a quick fix, a Band-Aid. It's not a gift.'' Though the plan and its costs are still evolving, consumer advocates and economists aren't so shy about calling it a bailout. They say utility customers will bear the cost through rate hikes that will be in effect for a decade. ``The utilities get bailed out and the consumers pay and pay,'' said Jamie Briesemeister, senior policy analyst with Consumers Union. ``If this proposal gets enacted, deregulation will go down as the biggest consumer rip-off in California history.'' Whatever the terminology, the relief plan being forged for Southern California Edison and Pacific Gas Electric - who say that together they are more than $12 billion in debt - would rank among the nation's biggest. The deal would be dwarfed by the federal bailout of the savings and loan industry, where cost estimates soared as high as $481 billion. But it would be much bigger than the 1995 bailout of Orange County, which rolled up $819 million in debts, and the 1979 Chrysler bailout, even when inflation is factored in. Congress authorized $1.5 billion for the moribund automaker while it reorganized under Lee Iaccoca. Chrysler used only $1.2 billion of the money. California has been under a Stage 3 alert for nearly two weeks, meaning power reserves are practically exhausted. Thousands of homes and businesses have been hit by rolling blackouts in a crisis blamed in part on California's deregulation of its electric industry. Under the deregulation law, the utilities had to sell off their power plants and buy electricity on the open market. But the two biggest utilities have been sliding toward ruin because wholesale prices are soaring and the companies are not allowed to pass the full cost on to their customers. ``The ratepayers' anger is understandable because that's the entity to which they pay their bills,'' said Catherine Wolfram, a University of California energy economist. ``But the utilities faced real regulatory hurdles. And the power generators have been making out like bandits.'' Because the two utilities' credit is practically worthless, the state is spending at least $400 million to buy power on their behalf on the expensive spot market. At the same times, state officials are negotiating long-term power contracts with suppliers of up to 10 years. California lawmakers are also trying to put together a rescue plan under which the state would issue bonds to cover SoCal Edison and PGE's debts. Millions of the utilities' customers would pay back the bonds over several years through an extension of recently approved rate increases. The exact amount of the deal is uncertain. As part of the deal, the state would get long-term options that would let it buy utility stock at a low price. If stock prices rise, the state could sell the stock and use any profits to pay off the bonds. Investment analysts offered cautious praise for the rescue plan, which stops far short of another option that has been on the table: a huge state takeover of utilities' hydroelectric plants and other facilities. ``Bailout implies incompetence on the part of companies who don't deserve help,'' said Susan Abbott, managing director of the public utilities group at Moody's Investor Service. But ``the way the market was structured didn't allow the companies to protect themselves from the volatility of electricity pricing. We believe this is a step in the right direction, although a lot more has to be done.'' Others weren't so generous. ``Any of these proposals has an element of bailout,'' said Richard Gilbert, another economist at the University of California at Berkeley. ``They are subsidizing companies that are running at a deficit.'' Gilbert said any state-sponsored solution needs to raise electricity rates to a level that encourages conservation and allows utilities to buy power at new, higher rates. Otherwise, ``they are trying
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Liberals are trying to railroad Ashcroft nomination!
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 01/26/2001 9:08:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Radical left-wing groups are trying everything they can to stop Ashcroft's appointment by President Bush -- and now Ted Kennedy is threatening to filibuster the nomination when it comes up before the full Senate for a vote. I certainly hope so. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Israeli group offers support to conscientious objectors
-Caveat Lector- http://www.jewishsf.com/bk010126/sfayehyvul.shtml Israeli group offers support to conscientious objectors ALEXANDRA J. WALL Bulletin Staff In 1979, the translator of Yitzhak Rabin's memoirs leaked a passage to the New York Times. Peretz Kidron knew just how explosive those few paragraphs would be. "Dynamite," he called them. The lines were not in Rabin's book because they had been excised by Israeli censors. The passage told how Rabin, then a 26-year-old brigade commander, was ordered by Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion to expel 50,000 Arabs from the villages of Ramle and Lod during the War of Independence. "There were some fellows who refused to take part in the expulsion action," Rabin wrote. "Prolonged propaganda activities were required after the action, to remove the bitterness of these [soldiers] and explain why we were obliged to undertake such a harsh and cruel action." If the soldiers that Rabin referred to were serving in the Israel Defense Force now and refused to take part in an action they believed to be unethical, they'd have a support group to help them. And some 20 years after Rabin's translator made that passage public, he is the spokesperson for that group. Kidron, a translator and journalist who has a long relationship with KPFA Radio in Berkeley, was in the Bay Area recently to promote the activities of Yesh Gvul, a support group for soldiers who refuse to serve in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Yesh Gvul means "there is a limit," or "there is a border." With his unruly white hair and bright blue shirt, Kidron looked much like the kibbutznik he used to be. Originally from Vienna, Kidron's family fled to Great Britain in 1938 when he was 5. "I was a refugee at an early age," he said. "If you're looking for a pat explanation for my politics, that's it." Kidron, 68, has been involved with Yesh Gvul since its inception during the Lebanon War. At that time, about 170 reservists refused to serve in the invasion. Yesh Gvul believes in selective refusal, meaning soldiers who refuse to serve in the territories will still protect Israel in a war situation within its borders. The group faded and resurrected itself in the 1980s, during the intifada, when some 200 soldiers -- also reservists -- refused to serve in the territories. Yesh Gvul has been lying low since the Oslo peace process began. But with the current violence in the territories showing no signs of abating and an election that -- if the polls are correct -- will usher in a more hardline prime minister, those involved with Yesh Gvul felt the time had come to resurface. Only a handful of soldiers have refused to serve in the territories, but for the first time, they are not all reservists. In a highly publicized case, soldier Noam Kuzar received a 28-day sentence in military jail for refusing to serve in Jericho. When he was released, he was made to do such jobs as clean toilets. He was not allowed to speak to the press. Yesh Gvul representatives have been standing at bus stations, handing out fliers to soldiers that quote laws from the Geneva Convention. With the headline "Hey soldier, where are you headed?" the flier suggests that refusing to obey orders may be the right thing to do. "It's a moral question, not a geographical one," said Kidron. The most obvious reason for refusing to serve is that "the overwhelming majority of casualties fell in the conquest of or retention of places now under Arab rule." Additionally, he said, it is difficult for a soldier -- even one who is sympathetic to the Palestinians -- to refrain from inflicting harm when he feels as if his life is threatened. "The soldier is placed in an intolerable situation, where he has to commit some kind of atrocity or disobey orders," Kidron said. "The best way to avoid it is to not get into the situation in the first place. Even if you're a nice occupier, you're still an occupier." For those refusing to serve, Yesh Gvul tries to boost their morale by initiating letter-writing campaigns to incarcerated soldiers or, in the case of reservists, offering support to their families. During the Lebanon War, Kidron said, a U.S. Reconstructionist congregation called two conscientious objectors up to the Torah, a move that received a huge amount of press coverage in Israel. Such actions of U.S. Jews are much appreciated by the peace movement in Israel, he said, since often, American support of Israel can be misguided. By giving billions of dollars a year to Israel without placing any conditions on how the money is used, Kidron said, "the U.S. is providing us junkies with a regular allowance to get our next fix. But then, when they say, 'Maybe we should cut off the money and make us go to detox,' we say, 'That's interfering with our private life.'" Oftentimes, he said, American Jews come off like cheerleaders, even when supporting specific Israeli policies that "are leading to suicidal behavior."
[CTRL] Fwd: NWO, the Sequel: To Solve Energy Crisis, Bush Invokes NAFTA
US power generating companies have expressed an interest in building electrical power plants in Mexico, appealing because of its lack of anti-pollution regulations. Energy on Bush's Agenda With Fox By H. JOSEF HEBERT .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush is likely to bring up California's power problems in discussions with Mexico's president next month in hopes that Mexico will expand power plant construction so that more electricity can flow into the United States. Officials acknowledge such initiatives will do little to address California's current electricity shortages. But it will be key to a broader Bush administration effort to promote a North American energy policy involving both Mexico and Canada. Bush had said on several occasions during the presidential campaign that he viewed U.S. energy policy as transcending national boundaries. Two senior Bush aides said Thursday that Bush might suggest that Mexico allow more private U.S. capital to help build electricity plants and transmission lines, especially in Baja south of California. Mexican President Vicente Fox said Friday that his country cannot help California because ``we don't have enough electricity for our own consumption.'' Fox, attending an international forum in Davos, Switzerland, said he is willing to develop a long-term energy policy with the United States and Canada aimed at boosting energy generation and distribution. Separately, officials said the Environmental Protection Agency was prepared to temporarily waive some federal air quality standards if they interfere in the full use of California's power plants. Such a waiver would be granted only if California requested it to ease some of its current air pollution rules affecting power plants. The administration ``would be favorably disposed'' to such a request ``if that's what they think they need,'' said Larry Lindsey, the president's chief economic adviser. California Gov. Gray Davis said the state's air pollution requirements - some of the toughest in the country - have not hindered power production so far, but that he would ask for a waiver if the need should arise. ``I believe we can get more plants on line and still respect the environment,'' Davis said Thursday through a spokesman. The state has made adjustments in air rules when needed to keep power flowing without requiring waivers, said Jerry Martin, a spokesman for the California Air Resources Board. ``Air quality has been a small bump in this energy crisis road,'' said Mike Scheible, the board's deputy executive officer. ``Plants are operating and air quality permit restrictions are not limiting their production.'' Two senior federal officials said Bush was expected to raise the issue of more energy imports from Mexico - including electricity into California - when he meets with Fox on Feb. 16, the first foreign trip Bush will make as president. Some power already flows across interconnecting lines between Baja and Southern California, moving in both directions depending on circumstances. But Mexico's own power demands and little excess capacity has left little room for additional exports, energy experts said. Maximum power plant production in Baja currently is 1,600 megawatts, but domestic demand is 1,200 megawatts, according to the North American Electric Reliability Council, an industry-sponsored group. But U.S. power generating companies have expressed an interest in building electricity plants in Mexico, where some environmental regulations and permitting requirements are less stringent than in the United States. While Mexico's electricity system is government-owned and operated, the Mexican government has eased its restrictions on allowing private development of generating plants. With growing electricity needs, Mexico wants to build 16 new power plants, some of which will export to the United States, according to Alfredo Elias Ayub, director of Mexico's electricity commission. Construction on one of those plants is under way six miles south of the border in Baja, where a Boston-based conglomerate, InterGen Corp., is building a 765 megawatt power plant with about a third of the electricity for export. On average, one megawatt can power about 1,000 homes. The natural gas plant is expected to be ready by 2003, although with the current power problems in California ``we're looking possibly at accelerating'' the schedule, said John Foster, InterGen's senior vice president for Latin America. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, both former energy company executives, have said in recent interviews that they would like to see U.S. capital help develop more such plants in Mexico as well as expand shipments of Mexican natural gas into the United States. Even with the less stringent permitting requirements in Mexico ``it takes about two years to complete a major generating facility like this,'' Foster said in a telephone interview. On the Net: California Independent System
Re: [CTRL] NM: Top Judiciary Dem Leahy Defends White House Trashing
-Caveat Lector- --- MICHAEL SPITZER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff Thursday, Jan. 25, 2001 4:32 p.m. EST Top Judiciary Dem Leahy Defends White House Trashing Would Leahy be saying this if it were HIS house being trashed? snort __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Q-Who will MOST BENEFIT By School Vouchers???
-Caveat Lector- Why do people equate "[educating] every single member to the greatest extent of their ability" with maintaining the current public school fiasco in many cities? I don't. I do, however, recognize that taking money away from an already cash strapped system will only make it worse. Nessie This is Government School propaganda and makes no sense. Money is not the basic problem. Wash DC spends about $10,000 per kid and they are dumber then ever. For every kid that leaves Government School to attend private school, it costs the Government School System that much less. The amount of the vouchers is less then the per kid Government School subsidy. An alternative to Government Schools scares the hell out of the NEA and the huge gaggle of high paid Govt School Bureacrats. The fact that EVERY Senator and Congresscritter sends his little darling to private school says it all. The fact that PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHERS send their kids to private school at a higher proportion then the general population says it even louder. They use the Govt School System to earn a living off the taxpayer but would never send their kids there. The Govt School System is the greatest boondoggle ever devised by man. EDD U KA SHUN has replaced the phony Cold War as the new taxpayer rip off. flw Why should I be happy about my tax dollars supporting such an enterprise? What you should be unhappy about is that the tax money that could fix the schools is being spent by the Pentagon on weapons for a war that ended ten years ago. I'm sure the government does many things with your tax money that you consider criminal or immoral; I find the perpetuation and protection of failing tax-funded schools to be one of these things. We're depriving many, many people of the basic level of literacy needed to function. What, and spending even less money on their education will make it better!?! Gimme a break. So when you have an idea on how the public schools can educate people to the fullest extent of their ability in Detroit, and Philly, and Oakland, and Atlanta, and Baltimore, and Newark, and many other places, you let us know. Hire more, better teachers. Buy better books and equipment. Build new school buildings. Stop wasting the money on weapons for a war that's been over ten years. We've tried showering them with money and that does not work. No, we have not. The buildings are crumbling, the books out of date and the classes are crowded. Meanwhile, we spend money on weapons for a war that's been over for ten years. The pentagon sucks on this country's neck. Spend half the Pentagon budget on education and we'll see an end to the education crisis. Spend the other half on infrastructure. We don't NEED and army. We ARE an army. There are eighty million armed Americans. If anybody invades, we can kill them ourselves. The military we have now is not for defense of the American people or of American soil; it's for advancing the overseas interests of the corporations. To make the corporations even richer, we are robbing our children of their education. I know that not from reading Ayn Rand but from looking at the schools where I greu up. The ones who taught you to spell? I don't think I'm selfish, shortsighted, or brainwashed (well how would I know if I was brainwashed?) That's the real problem. Selfishness is not a natural part of the human condition. It's an aberration that has been nurtured, fostered and promoted by our rulers, in part through their control of the educational process. You went to a private school. Of course they taught you to look down on public schools. Thats how they make their living. I'm simply observing a disaster, expressing how I think it's robbing and cheating so many people, and also voicing my opposition to funding such a thing. It is not funding, but lack of funding, that is at the root of the problem. Let me give but a single example. My son graduated in 1986 from one of the better public high schools in the Bay Area. My SO taught biology at the same school that year, so I spent a lot of time at the place and got to know it pretty well. I read my sons text books. The geography books were from 1961, before the era of decolonization. Dozens of countries werent even listed. His American history book was from 1976. It contained two (count em, TWO) sentences on Viet Nam. They were both lies. My SO regularly spent from her own meager salary to buy necessary supplies for her class. I personally bought supplies for her class. The ceiling tiles were hanging loose and you could see the asbestos particles floating in the air when the sun came through the window at the right angle. Half of the science department had active cases of cancer that year. Meanwhile, back in Washington, those tax-and-spend Democrats were sitting on their hands while the borrow-and-spend Republicans were putting my as yet unborn great grand children into debt to buy
Re: [CTRL] Q-Who will MOST BENEFIT By School Vouchers???
-Caveat Lector- Gee, most good private schools charge upward of $10-15,000 a year per student. What good is a $1,500 voucher going to do to get kids into "good" private schools? This is false. Many good quality private Catholic schools charge less then $3000 per year. Many new start up inner city private schools now charge less then $2500. Of course most Govt Schools now charge about $10,000 per year. flw A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Q-Who will MOST BENEFIT By School Vouchers???
-Caveat Lector- This is false. Many good quality private Catholic schools charge less then $3000 per year. Many new start up inner city private schools now charge less then $2500. Of course most Govt Schools now charge about $10,000 per year. Sources, please. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Q-Who will MOST BENEFIT By School Vouchers???
-Caveat Lector- dumber than ever Says who? By what standards? Cite your sources. For every kid that leaves Government School to attend private school, it costs the Government School System that much less. For every kid that leaves Government School to attend private school, the public school (s)he left gets that much less money from the government. The amount of the vouchers is less then the per kid Government School subsidy. Then how can they possibly buy better education? An alternative to Government Schools scares the hell out of the NEA and the huge gaggle of high paid Govt School Bureacrats. (1.) Thats a separate issue. (2.) A guy who cant even spell bureaucrats has a lot of nerve criticizing how they do their job, or for that matter, pontificating on education. The fact that EVERY Senator and Congresscritter sends his little darling to private school says it all. Assuming thats even true (you havent cited a source), all that says is that they are rich. Rich kids get a better education. This is not because the government runs public schools. This is intrinsic to a classist society. The rich get better everything. The fact that PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHERS send their kids to private school at a higher proportion then the general population says it even louder. They use the Govt School System to earn a living off the taxpayer but would never send their kids there. Source, please. How many teachers are we talking about here? How many kids? What are the actual numbers and actual percentages? Be precise. The Govt School System is the greatest boondoggle ever devised by man. Compared to the so-called defense budget!?! Gimme a break. EDD U KA SHUN has replaced the phony Cold War as the new taxpayer rip off. OK, lets compare them. State the exact figures, please, so we know exactly what were talking about. So far, you've only given us your opinions. Let's hear some facts. And lets look at the real problem, classism. Some kids get better education than others because their parents have more money. Switching to a system of private only education will only make this worse. Vouchers are the first step in what appears to be a long planned privatization of the education system. Religious schools are not a viable alternative because, as bad as public schools are religious schools are worse. No religious school can ever teach logical reasoning because logical reasoning and religion are antithetical. You cant teach kids to believe what they are told and simultaneously teach them to think for themselves in a rational, logical manner. It cant be done. Its like simultaneously telling them to run and to stand still. The closest they can come is running in place, which is neither running nor standing still. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Q-Who will MOST BENEFIT By School Vouchers???
-Caveat Lector- The fact that PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHERS send their kids to private school at a higher proportion then the general population says it even louder. They use the Govt School System to earn a living off the taxpayer but would never send their kids there. Source, please. How many teachers are we talking about here? How many kids? What are the actual numbers and actual percentages? Be precise. While I commonly hear that 30% of public school teachers send their kids to private school (as compared to 10% of the population as a whole) the numbers are a bit more complex than that. The two links below contain statistics on these questions. http://www.heritage.org/library/categories/education/bei42.html http://www.aft.org/research/reports/private/doyle/doyle.htm Noting the bias of the two organizations above, I can only repeat the official mantra of this list: "Caveat Lector" jeff = Jeff Russo [EMAIL PROTECTED] - "Everything our parents said was good is bad. Sun, milk, red meat, college" -- Woody Allen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Ashcroft the liar
-Caveat Lector- http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=20397 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Exopolitics: The Non-Terrestrial Politics Website
-Caveat Lector- From UFOUpdate: I though that all politics was local. After all, King Ming of the planet Mongo doesn't allow dissent. Remember what happened to the Clay Men? Clear skies, Bob Young No, no Bob. It is more like "Luke Skywalker deconstructs the Empire." That more contemporary imagery is definitely a better gateway into exopolitics, the study of law, government and politics in the Universe. Exopolitics is our ultimate interface with non-terrestrial intelligence. What is the proof that Universal law and politics exist? Oddly enough, the best proof is the same proof that natural law and justice exist on Earth - jurisprudence and philosophy. If natural law and justice exist on Earth, they exists everywhere in the Universe. The next best proof that expolitics - non-terrestrial law, politics, and justice - exist is that between 50 million and 100 million adult North Americans say so, by latest public opinion polls (Gallup and Zogby). These are no delusionary or mind-controlled opinions - they come from deep, true intuitions about the nature of reality. Even Immanuel Kant told us we can have noumenal (non-thing) knowledge. The next proofs of non-terrestrial law, politics and government may be the physical, psychological proofs. For example, the UFO phenomenon may be a vast, peripheral-cueing, psychological conditioning program by a Universe society (along with some terrestrial-military disinformation programs). Conditioning humanity into awareness of non-terrestrial law, politics, and society. You can freely pursue some of this exopolitical thought at: http://www.exopolitics.com/exoone.html Alfred Webre EXOPOLITICS http://www.exopolitics.com Vancouver, BC A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Q-Who will MOST BENEFIT By School Vouchers???
-Caveat Lector- the numbers are a bit more complex than that Indeed they are. For one thing, as you astutely pointed out, bias makes the real figures difficult to ascertain. More important though, is that the wrong thing is being measured. Comparing the rate at which public teachers send their kids to private school with the rate Americans as a whole send their kids to private schools tell us very little because it fails to factor in income. Comparing how many teachers send their kids to private school with how many Americans in their income bracket send their kids to private school would tell us more about how teachers' assessment of public schools effect their decision. However, it tells us very little, if anything, about what is wrong with public schools, over most of which teachers have no control whatsoever. Public education does not exist in a vacuum. Equity in education cannot take place in an iniquitous society. More money will not, in and of itself, perfect public education. But more money is definitely needed, a lot more. We need to make public education as good as, if not better than, the very best private education that money can buy. We have the money, but were spending it to support the Pentagon, i.e., were spending it on what is essentially a private army for the corporations, especially for the oil companies. Were doing it at the expense of education. This is as stupid as it is immoral. It will come home to roost. Its only a matter of time. Taking even more money out of public education is not the answer. Taking money out of the public education system can only make education more iniquitous than it already is. This is the apparent, but hidden, agenda of those who propose to do so. They are conspiring behind our backs to widen the gap between the rich and the rest of us. The only reason this conspiracy is not generally considered illegal is because they write the laws. But that doesnt mean its not a conspiracy. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NM: Top Judiciary Dem Leahy Defends White House Trashing
-Caveat Lector- Would Leahy be saying this if it were HIS house being trashed? He's just one more American. That means that it's exactly as much his as it is yours. His taxes, as well as your own, pay for the clean up. Personally, I think the White House ought to be used for a homeless shelter. As long as anybody has to sleep in the street, no politician, particularly the president, deserves a roof over his head. Neither do we. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton Among Top 100 African-American Freemasons
http://freemasonry.org/phylaxis/mark__vip.htm MEN OF MARK PRINCE HALL FREEMASONS IN AMERICA THE 100 + MOST INFLUENTIAL From the marbled corridors of Capitol Hill to the executive suites of corporate America to the boardrooms of community based organizations, Prince Hall Freemasons are playing a major role in shaping national policy. With passionate and powerful voice they are articulating the needs and desires of African-Americans in every stratum of American life.[1] The Phylaxis Society had requested photographs of all of the Leadership within Prince Hall Freemasonry, many was not received. However, irregardless if the photographs were used or not, we have listed the names of those Men of Mark in Prince Hall Freemasonry in America. There are many Prince Hall Freemasons whose names should be included in this listing, for instance we know that many of the Mayors across the nation are Prince Hall Freemasons, therefore, we ask our members to furnish the Society with those names. The names can be sent to The Phylaxis Society, Public Affairs Office, Post Office Box 2232; Kansas City, MO. 64142. Abrams, Brian L. Sr., Director, Scottish Rite Research Institute, Phylaxis Society, Chicago, Illinois. Alexander, Lincoln, Past Lieutenant Governor of Province, Ontario, Canada Allen, Alex E., Chief, Judge, Detroit Recorders Court, Detroit, Michigan Althouse, Roy H., Grand Master, Kansas Archer, Dennis, Mayor, Detroit, Michigan Arrington, Marvin, President, Atlanta City Council, Atlanta, Georgia Ash, James K, Grand Master, Minnesota Barksdale, Benjamin, Grand Master, Georgia Bendaw, Harold H., Grand Master, New Mexico Blackwell, Kenneth J., State Treasure, Cincinnati, Ohio Blevins, William E., Grand Master, Tennessee Boone, Michael R, Grand Master, Alaska Bradley, Walter T., Director, Life Membership, Phylaxis Society, Midway, Kentucky. Breckenridge, Sid., Sr., Director, COFP Book Department, Phylaxis Society, Tacoma, Washington Bridges, Edgar Sr., Grand Master, Mississippi Brodgon, Samuel Jr., Sovereign Grand Commander, Northern Butts, Calvin O., Rev., Pastor Abyssinian Baptist Church, New York Bynor, John G, Grand Master, Massachusetts Campbell, Bob Soup, Pres., Second Vice President, President Phyaxis Society Public Affairs, Kansas City, Missouri. Campbell, William, Mayor, Atlanta, Georgia Chambers, Marvin , Grand Master, North Carolina Channel, Afred, City Councilman, Marksville, Louisiana Clay, William L., U.S. Representative, 1st District, Missouri Cleveland, Clyde, Councilman, Detroit, Michigan Clever, Emanuel D., Ex-Mayor, Kansas City, Missouri Connor, Robert E., Jr., Grand Master, Texas Curling, Alvin, Member of Provincial Parliament, Ontario, Canada Curtis, Israel Bo, State Rep, District # 26, Alexandria, Louisiana Dailey, Herbert, First Vice Pres., Emeratus, Phylaxis Society, Tacoma, Washington. Dallas, James W., President, Northeast Chapter, Phylaxis Society, Tacoma, Washington. Darnell, Edward B., Great Black Man in Masonry, Deputy Imperial Potentate, A.E.A.O.N.M.S. Davenport, Charles W., Grand Master, South Carolina Davis, Ossie, Actor Desselle, Wilton A., Police Juror, Avoyelles Parish, Marksville, Louisiana Dixon, Lamont, Director, Prince Hall Art Commission, Phylaxis Society, Atco, New Jersey. Elerbee, James, General Conference Grand High Priest Ellis, Henrick, Grand Master of the Caribbean Evans, Willie B., Grand Master, Illinois Ford, Harold E., U. S. Representative, 9th District, Tennessee Ford, Johnnie, Legislature, Tuskegee, Alabama Foster, Jimmie D, Grand Master, Wisconsin Gantt, Harvey B., Former Mayor, Charlotte, North Carolina Gray, Marvin L., Grand Master, Delaware Green, Al, Singer Green, George W., Director, Williamson Hall of Fame, Phylaxis Society, Iselin, New Jersey. Green, William D., Financial Secretary, Phylaxis Society, Tacoma, Washington. Griffin, Willie H, Grand Master, District of Columbia Gross, William H., Jr., President, Council of 459, Baltimore, Maryland Halstead, Joseph, Commissioner of Economical Development, Toronto, Ontario, Canada Harmon, Clearance, Mayor, St. Louis, Missouri Harris, Lawrence, Grand Master, Pennsylvania Hartsfield, Wallace, Rev., Vice Chair, Congress of National Black Churches Hill, Stephen, Director, Non Prince Hall Commission, Phylaxis Society, Seaside, California. Holder, Ira S., Jr., President Ira S. Holder, Sr. Chapter, Phylaxis Society, Uniondale, New York. Hood, Nicholas, Rev., Former Detroit City Councilman Pro Tem Hooks, Benjamin, Past Executive Director, NAACP, Grand Secretary, Tennessee Hughes, McMurphy, Grand Master, Indiana Hurst, Wayne, Mayor, Amherstburg, Ontario, Canada Huyler, Godfrey B., Grand Master of Bahamas Jackson, Jessie L., Rev., President, Rainbow-PUSH Coalition Jackson, Maynard, Former Mayor of Atlanta, Georgia James, Sharpe, Mayor of Newark, New Jersey Janifer, Joseph E.,
[CTRL] Skolnick-MARC RICH IS CIA RICH
http://www.skolnicksreport.com/mrich.html MARC RICH IS CIA RICH 1/26/01 by Sherman H. Skolnick Some feel old files can be a drag. Whether in original paper form or non-paper form, they take up space. And only old-timers might know how the different files interface with one another. Besides, a super-duper swindler from yesteryear might have disappeared or never re-appear in the public eye. Specializing in keeping track of big-time crooks, including Judges and top IRS officials, we, as a group, have a repository of some one million documents, files, rare books, films, audio and video tapes, and more. We relish the thought of a big thief somehow showing up again. It makes keeping old files worth the effort. The problem? The data thus put together might be falsely described as "tall stories". Especially by those who grew up sucking on mass media milk. In other words, in plain talk, college educated know-nothings. Like those who e-mail us questions on what they call "marshall law". Hey, have dictionaries become obsolete? Starting back in 1954 was a brilliant, high-strung, humor-less speculator. His real name was Marc Reich, but to disguise his foreign-descent past, he called himself Marc Rich. He knew how to trade a cyclone in usual and unusual metals, grains, and other items from the earth's crust. And how to make money and shipments disappear through the dark and tax-neutral and tax-haven hole, such as the Netherland Antilles. Oil embargoes such as against Iran in 1979-80, because of the U.S. hostage mess, did NOT effect HIM. To preserve his secrets he apparently never fired any of his underlings. Supposedly they were paid even when they did not function well anymore. So the American CIA needed to pay for a domestic or foreign political assassination? No problem. Marc Rich arranged it through smuggled or stolen gold bullion. [A similar CIA gold trader living in a Chicago suburb, was assassinated on the day we fingered him in 1995 on our popular public access Cable TV Program. Mellow with age, John Tarullo, friend and tool of Archbishops, and top FBI and CIA officials, talked too much. As a teen-ager, he was a pilot for Benito Mussolini, the Italian strongman.] Omitting Marc Rich's espionage role, but otherwise useful for background is the book, "Metal Men- Marc Rich and the 10-Billion-Dollar Scam" by A. Craig Copetas, G.P. Putnam's Sons, N.Y., N.Y., 1985. To write the book, the author became a metal and commodity trader and infiltrated Rich's circle. Hillary Rodham Clinton and her globe-traveling law partner and reputed lover, Vincent W. Foster, Jr., were implicated in domestic and overseas money laundering. Secretly a top espionage operative long before his short tenure in the Clinton White House, Foster traveled with tell-tale government- rate airfare. He, and Hillary and their crony Webster Hubbell, former Little Rock Mayor and once Acting Arkansas Supreme Court Chief Justice, were strategists for a reputed worldwide spying-on-banks, as against both friend and foe, for Systematics, in the bank computer software services field. Bank computer espionage "trap-doors" were their specialty. We were about the first to finger Systematics, headquartered in Arkansas, and some of their front stooges tried, with no success, to scare us into silence. The National Security Agency, NSA, file on Foster and Systematics linked Hillary, Foster, and others, in many hundreds of pages of documents, but as available to the public, mostly redacted, blanked out to outsiders. Marc Rich the commodity bandit and "spook" was so interwoven with the White House of George Bush The Elder and later, Bill Clinton, you could not hardly tell whether the White House dirty tricks department was in Washington or Zug, Switzerland, one of Rich's outpposts. To escape being prosecuted, Rich did not return from Zug to face the big-time Federal Criminal music in the 1980s. At the time the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, Rudolph W. Giuliani (later N.Y. city Mayor), wanted to put Rich in jail. A Bush Family confidant, Giuliani nevertheless found out too late that Marc Rich was the American CIA's laundry man and was immune. When Rudy started to run for U.S. Senator from New York against carpetbagger Hillary Clinton, in the year 2000 Election, she was afraid he would mouth off about her and Foster and Marc Rich. So, Hillary's press agents reportedly launched a pre-emptive strike planting details publicly of Giuliani's marital troubles. And so, Rudy side-stepped the whole mess and the Election, by divulging what he must have already known, that he was ill with cancer. The book author described him, "Marc Rich, the man whom the United States Justice Department privately called the most corrupt corporate executive in America". ["Metal Men", page 13.] After he took refuge in his Switzerland offices, the oil-soaked monopoly press, protective of high-level swindlers, agreed to be mostly silent. By 1990, Rich was a key player in
[CTRL] Leahy Statement on Ashcroft Unresponsiveness
http://www.roevbush.com/leahystatement.html Leahy Statement on Ashcroft Unresponsiveness Comment Of Sen. Patrick Leahy, Ranking Member, Senate Judiciary Committee, On Sen. Ashcroft's Responses To The Committee's Written Questions Fri., Jan. 26, 2001 "The answers are surprisingly unresponsive and often are inconsistent with the hearing record and with Sen. Ashcroft's own record. They are 'answers' in the sense that there is text after the question marks, but they are not answers to the point of being responsive. "The committee always requires nominees to reply to its written questions as part of the confirmation process. In this case written questions are especially important because senators had fewer rounds of questions than usual and because the nominee was not called back at the end of the hearings, as we often do. Of course any nominee can choose how to respond to the committee's questions. This nominee and his advisers have decided to essentially ignore the committee's request for answers on several significant subjects important to many senators. That is Sen. Ashcroft's choice. The refusal to provide substantive answers is another factor that senators will have to take into account in deciding how they will vote. I will say that if President Clinton or a Clinton nominee had provided these answers, some Republicans would be calling for impeachment or a subpoena." Sen. Leahy released the following examples of unresponsive or inconsistent answers in Sen. Ashcroft's responses: UNRESPONSIVE ANSWERS In his written responses, Sen. Ashcroft refused to: -- take a position on whether Southern Partisan is racist; -- explain what he meant when he said he opposed James Hormel based on the "totality of the circumstances"; -- express regret about calling Jim Brady the "leading enemy" of responsible gun owners; -- explain his basis for saying the Supreme Court had engaged in "religious oppression"; -- explain why employees should not be free from discrimination based on sexual orientation; -- express his view as to whether states should be able to restrict the teaching of evolution; -- explain what he meant when he told Southern Partisan he had "stopped judges." THE HORMEL NOMINATION Sen. Ashcroft was asked to specify the factors that led to his opposition to James Hormel, but he continues to refuse to do so, citing again "the totality of Mr. Hormel's record" as the basis for his opposition. Moreover, while Sen. Ashcroft denied in his oral testimony that he opposed Mr. Hormel because he was gay (1/17/01 Tr., at p. 92), he curiously notes in his written responses that Luxembourg, to which Mr. Hormel was to be posted, was the "the most Roman Catholic country in all of Europe." NOMINATION HOLDS Sen. Ashcroft refused to acknowledge in his written responses even a single hold on any presidential nominee, even though, for instance, he held a news conference on October 13, 1997, in which he publicly admitted to holding up the judicial confirmation of Margaret Morrow. See L.A. Daily Journal, October 15, 1997. JUDGE RONNIE WHITE Sen. Ashcroft's answer that reproductive rights played no part in his opposition to Judge White's nomination is flatly contradicted by the questions he asked and the statement he put in the Judiciary Committee markup record on May 21, 1998, in which he referred to Judge White's "manipulation of legislative procedures while he was a member of the Missouri General Assembly." REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS Sen. Ashcroft acknowledges in his written response to a question by Sen. Leahy that a Missouri bill known as Senate Bill 339, which criminalized non-therapeutic abortions, might not be constitutional, but he distances himself from this legislation by stating that he had "no specific recollection" and that "it appears from press reports that representatives from my office may have expressed interest in seeing the bill passed out of committee." He also states: "[w]hile I was governor, it was my policy to refrain from opining on whether I would sign a bill until after a bill actually passed the legislature...". Finally, he states that "this bill did not prevent abortions attributable to rape, incest or a "bona fide, diagnosed health problem." (emphasis in original). FACTS: Sen. Ashcroft's failure of recollection about this legislation is difficult to credit. His State of the State Address on January 9, 1990, stated, "within the next week, I will announce my support for concepts that would enhance our capacity to protect unborn children." Shortly thereafter, on January 19, 1990, he issued a statement saying, "Today I am proposing that Missouri ban abortions for birth control, sex selection, and racial discrimination. Missourians reject multiple, birth control abortions... I am grateful for these proposals and I would welcome an opportunity to sign their protections for unborn children and mothers into law as an alternative to the continuation of abortions." These specific reasons for banning abortion were
[CTRL] Kinsley-Count Your Blessings
Count Your Blessings
By Michael Kinsley
Friday, January 26, 2001; Page A23
When did they pass the constitutional amendment requiring every president and
would-be president to end every speech with the words, "God bless you and God
bless America"? Even a nonbeliever cannot reasonably object to the sentiment.
If I turn out to be mistaken about the central question of the universe, I'll
be happy enough that others were doing some celestial lobbying on my
country's behalf. And if the words are pouring into an unhearing ether,
there's no harm done.
Furthermore, it seems to have worked, so far. But is even God starting to
tire of the constant special pleading? This rhetorical sign-off is filtering
down from major speeches by national leaders to everyday speeches by members
of Congress to casual remarks by local officials. It's starting to be
suspicious if a politician doesn't conclude a public statement this way. The
missing phrase echoes loud. What's your problem, buddy? You don't want God to
bless America?
And how do we even know that the practice is limited to public statements?
One imagines the politician at home:
"Pass the salt, honey. God bless you and God bless America."
"More apple pie, Dear? God bless you and God bless America."
"May I be excused, please, Dad? God bless you."
"Just one moment, young lady. And? And?"
(Sigh.) "And God bless America."
"That's better. You're excused. God bless you and God bless America."
An unscientific romp through the databases tends to confirm that the great
American tradition we had better refer to as GBY/GBA only recently acquired
its status as the politicians' answer to "Have a nice day." ("Have a nice
day, Senator." "God bless you and God bless America.") The outbreak is worse
during election years, of course, and 2000 may have been a milestone. The
Political Transcripts file of the Federal Document Clearing House shows 13
uses of GBY/GBA in 1996, eight in 1997, seven in 1998, 12 in 1999 (including,
for example, a news conference on impeachment by Rep. Bob Barr) and 27 in
2000. This year has started out with five GBY/GBAs in just the first three
weeks: two from President Bush, two from former president Clinton and one
from Jesse Helms.
The broader Dow Jones Publications Library, tracking hundreds of media
outlets around the world, shows 338 uses of the terms "God bless you" and
"God bless America" (together) since the beginning of last year. This
obviously includes some repetitions, and the database is larger for more
recent years, but the historical comparison is nevertheless ominous. A search
of the equivalent 13-month period in 1990-91 shows only 12 GBY/GBAs. And from
January 1980 through January 1981, as far as the Dow Jones Publications
Library is concerned, nobody uttered the magic words at all!
Is it possible, I wondered, that Ronald Reagan didn't end his inaugural
addresses this way? Remarkably, Reagan's first inaugural speech, in 1981,
ended with a relatively simple, "God bless you and thank you." His second, in
1985, signed off, "God bless you and may God bless America." Nevertheless, I
suspect that emulation of the Great Communicator is responsible for this
dubious tradition. Imagine if any president from now on tried to get off the
swearing-in platform and start trying out all the buttons in the Oval Office
without a GBY/GBA. The nation would proclaim in one voice, "Go back. You
forgot to say, 'Mother, may I?' "
In another disturbing trend, God is being called on to bless you and then
bless various individual states. The Dow Jones database coughs up 21
citations for "God bless you and God bless the state of . . .," plus other
direct calls for blessings on "California" and other places self-confident
enough to assume that God already knows they are states. There is no record
of anybody ever saying, "God bless you and God bless the District of
Columbia."
We seem to be the only country that goes in for this particular formula. A
search in English through U.S.-based media collections has obvious
limitations, but nothing turned up for "God bless you and God bless the
United Kingdom" (or Britain or Great Britain or England) or "God bless
France" or Russia or Serbia or India or China or Canada. "God bless you and
God bless the European Community"? Zippo.
It's widely known that the United States is one of the most religious nations
on earth. What GBY/GBA illustrates is that religion is becoming a larger part
of our official public life, not a smaller one as many people puzzlingly
insist. There's no need to be an ACLU hysteric about this. But it does, for
example, make the complaints of some John Ashcroft supporters that he is a
victim of the political culture's alleged antipathy to religion hard to take
seriously.
And official promotion of religion -- even when it's not specific -- can
reach a point where it infringes the rights of nonbelievers. President Bush
has cut off family-planning funds for international organizations that
finance abortions on the
[CTRL] Reports Of White House Trashing Greatly Exaggerated
Jan. 25, 2001 | 'Porn bombs' or 'spic and span'? Some recent press reports suggest Bill Clinton and crew left behind a different sort of legacy at the White House when they departed Saturday. Weekend reports of Clinton aides gamely popping the "W" off of computer keyboards quickly turned to murmurs of vandalism, with Drudge reporting that the damage bordered on the criminal, with phone lines slashed, obscenities scrawled on walls, something called "porn bombs" and obscene messages left on the voice mail system, among other transgressions. Drudge also reported that the incoming Bush administration is conducting a full investigation of these actions. But by Thursday afternoon, the buzz had died somewhat after White House press secretary Ari Fleischer denied in his afternoon briefing that any "investigation" was going on, though he did say Bush and company were busy cataloging any damage that they had found in the White House. When he was pressed on the details, Fleischer was determined not to be pinned down on any specific incidents, claiming Bush didn't want to play the blame game on transition messes. "The president understands that transitions can be times of difficulty and strong emotion, and he's going to approach it in that vein," he said. Jake Siewert, the press secretary under Clinton, claims that there's not much for Bush to forgive, at least not in the West Wing. "The place was really spic and span," said Siewart, who says he was among the last to exit the building Saturday. Siewert didn't think Bush was owed an apology because a little disorder should be expected during a presidential transition. "I was there for the transition back in 1992, and it was a mess, too," he said. Unlike the new Bushies, however, the Clintons didn't take it personally. "Imagine if you were at a private corporation with about 400 people working there," he said. "Then one day, they all left, and another 400 people came in and wanted to run things. It would be chaos." --Alicia Montgomery [2:35 p.m. PST, January 26, 2001] http://www.salon.com/politics/fix/2001/01/25/political_fix/index.html
[CTRL] OT-HUMOR-HOW TO TELL IF YOUR COW HAS MAD COW DISEASE
-Caveat Lector- This has some really neat "moo" sounds. My dogs love it! AKE How To Recognize Mad Cow Disease (By Just Say Wow) Click below to see this page and to join the Just Say Wow mailing list: http://www.flowgo.com/rsubf.cfm?id=bzkfSiwwgljbjpzDodws=10; p=1863d=01-26-01 To just visit the recommended page, click here: http://www.flowgo.com/refer/redir.cfm?page_id=1863d=01-26-0 1 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Disclaimers and Men who think they have a right to hurt Women
-Caveat Lector- I am not saying this is true or not true. Just forwarding. KS The Real Story of Rosa Parks I have been out most of this week so today is the first chance I have had to go over this situation with the alleged failure to use a disclaimer. The above was at the beginning of the post by Kindred Spirit in addition to the "FYI" in the subject matter. I believe this was far more than adequate as a disclaimer. Those of you who attacked her and stated that she was personally making the comments contained in the article, name calling, etc. are 'way out of line. Your usual attempts to silence anybody not in agreement with you display your little agenda. I wonder if Kris really wants you to decimate his list for him while he is trying to promote the book, etc. NESSIE, as for your threats to "hurt" the poster, I cannot tell you the contempt with which I now hold you. I have been doing volunteer work with battered women the last three years. Yesterday afternoon, I went to court with one as the organization with which I am associated, Hope Place, assists women in getting out of relationships with and away from men who think exactly as you said you do in the second post to Kindred Spirit, the one where you will "hurt" her if she insults one of your friends, etc. That excuse if not right after "she made me do it" is in the top 5 you abusers use. NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO "HURT" ANOTHER PERSON EXCEPT IN SELF DEFENSE. Not even you, Nessie. Do you still have your radio show? Have you shared with your sponsors your right to hurt people? If not, why not and if so, do they approve? So based on your logic and belief system that one hurts those who say/post/think things of which one does not approve or deems insulting, what if, just for example, I find your constantly calling people who are my friend or those for whom I have regard "Nazi, bigoted, racist" when I know you are lying, I would be entitled to forward your posts to my two former classmates in the San Francisco (and one in San Diego) who could, in turn, pass them all around until somebody decided they believed as you do and had the right to hurt you. JUNE, I was surprised that you remained silent while Nessie threatened to hurt another poster but after reading your remarks concerning Super Bowl Sunday, apparently you are into this men hurting women thing, too. I wish you could see some of the women who arrive in the Huntsville shelter, which is totally inadequate. I have had two in my home briefly when there was not room at the shelter but it is always a frightening thing as these men with the right to hurt women may find us. They have to stay inside, away from windows and cannot use the phone, lie down in the backseat of my car under a blanket to get to the house. I have to lock a gate to my driveway, another to my yard and a third to my immediate back yard and entrance, etc., a whole series of required safe guards to even offer these women shelter as all too often these men who "hurt" women find them and kill or injure others to get to the object of their abuse. Whether or not it is SuperBowl Sunday when these things happen, go to the DOJ website on the Violence Against Women Act section and read how 4,000 women are killed every year by men who think just like this, that they have the "right" to hurt if their friends are insulted, their dinner is cold, the kids are noisy or whatever. Often they claim they only meant to "hurt" the woman and express their surprise at how easily she was killed. Only 200-300 men are killed by domestic violence during a year so spare me the "men are abused. too" routine. Heard it. Lots. Seldom applies. This has been a cause on which I have spent a great deal of my time and effort over the last three years and it is very dear to my heart. I also moderate a support list for these women. I have nothing but the greatest contempt for men who treat women this way even if it is just in a threat over the internet. Amelia A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A
Re: [CTRL] Disclaimers and Men who think they have a right to hurt Women
-Caveat Lector- Amelia, Thanks for a great post. -- Take away the right to say 'fuck' and you take away the right to say 'fuck the government.' -- Lenny Bruce A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] CA news blackout on cause of energy crisis
-Caveat Lector- http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/1/26/192056.shtml Indonesian Power Deal Blows Financial Fuse Charles R. Smith Saturday, Jan. 27, 2001 Californians are suffering from a blackout - not one of electric power but of the news. The mainstream media, including Time/CNN, continue to maintain that the recent financial short-circuits inside California's energy grid are all due to state economic and environmental regulations. Nothing could be further from the truth. In 1994, Edison Mission Energy landed a trade trip with Ron Brown to Indonesia. As a result of that trip, Edison also ended up with a contract to build the Paiton I coal-fired power plant. Paiton I was billed as the first "private" electric plant in Indonesia. In 1994, "private" ownership in Indonesia equated into owned and operated by the Suharto "first family." The partners in the Paiton I consortium include Edison Mission Energy, Mitsui Co. Ltd. of Japan, General Electric Capital Corp. and P.T. Batu Hitam Perkasa. Just by coincidence, of course, P.T. Batu was owned by Indonesian dictator Suharto's youngest daughter, Titek Prabowo, and her brother-in-law, Hashim Djojohadikusumo. According to the Commerce Department, 0.75 percent of the Paiton project was reserved for Suharto's daughter Prabowo, or an instant $15 million in cash. Her kickback, along with a cut for "brother-in-law" Hashim and other Suharto relatives, was to be provided up front, in cash, in the form of a $50 million loan. The $50 million loan was to be paid back by the profits or dividends from the power plant. The U.S. Commerce Department was not the only agency to take notice of Edison's special contract with Suharto's daughter. In 1994, agents from the Central Intelligence Agency met with Chinagate figure John Huang on the Paiton Power Plant. The 1994 meeting between the intelligence agency and Huang included detailed information about the $2.6 billion Paiton electric power plant for Indonesia. According to the documents, CIA agents Bob Beamer, Chris Crosby, Lia Fidas and Nancy Goldcamp attended an August 1994 TPCC, or Trade Policy Coordinating Committee, meeting with John Huang. The subject of the CIA meeting was U.S. government-financed trade deals that contained "first family involvement" or illegal payments made to relatives of then Indonesian dictator Suharto. A 1994 Commerce Department report found in Huang's files noted that the Indonesian Paiton power plant had encountered difficulties with financing because the Asian Development Bank (ADB) knew it contained money for a Suharto family member. "ADB had raised concern about first family involvement during its consideration of the $50 million financial portion," states the Paiton Project document found in Huang's files. "Ambassador Barry stated that the project is facing two problems (i) the ADB financing may cave in and (ii) EXIM financing. Regarding ADB, technical questions have been satisfied, but ADB is skiddish about involvement of Indonesia's first family (a minority shareholder is married to Pres. Suharto's daughter)." In addition, 1994 documents provided by the Offshore Private Investment Corporation (OPIC) noted that Suharto's daughter Prabowo and her brother-in-law, Hashim Djojohadikusumo, were given a total 2.5 percent ownership in the U.S.-sponsored power project, through their local company BHP. "ADB is still considering this, b/c of very minimal involvement of Indo ruling family in the Mission project... ADB's delay revolves around concern for projects in Indonesia involving the first family. .75% ownership of the Mission project by daughter of Indo pres." Directly after meeting with the CIA on the known Suharto "first family" involvement inside the Edison Paiton power project, Huang proceeded to place a three-hour call to his former employer, the Lippo Group. In 1999, Huang pled guilty to federal charges of making illegal political contributions to the Clinton-Gore campaign. Huang took the Fifth Amendment more than 2,000 times when asked by Judicial Watch if he had ties to Chinese intelligence. The documents show that Edison officials were aware of the $50 million destined for Suharto's daughter. Newly released documents also show that Edison Chairman John Bryson actually pressed Secretary Ron Brown to support the $50 no-payback loan. Federal Election Commission records show that Mission Energy CEO John Bryson donated money to the Clinton-Gore campaign and contributed money to President Clinton's legal defense fund. In 1994, Bryson also wrote a personal letter to Brown, pressing for quick approval of the $50 million U.S. government-backed loan. "Dear Ron," wrote Bryson, then chairman of Southern California Edison. "I am writing to request your support of the application of the Paiton Private Power Project in Indonesia for funding by the Asian Development Bank (ADB)." "We have applied to the ADB for $50 million of funding as part of a $1.9 billion financing package.
[CTRL] Fw: Panel urges filtering of blood supply
-Caveat Lector- : Friday, January 26, 2001 8:09 PM Subject: Panel urges filtering of blood supply http://www.msnbc.com/news/522188.asp A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] FW: Republican Party Racists
-Caveat Lector- LOL! Typical, citing a website that has had a total, counting Aleisha, of four visitors. When disseminating disinformation, always cite the exception and the obscure and try to apply it to the mass. Desperate times call for desperate measures. And when all else fails, point out typos! Amelia - Original Message - From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] FW: Republican Party Racists -Caveat Lector- So Nessie - I pulled up the website of these people, and I must be visitor number 4 - for this is a new site Now ADL, Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton - probably founded this site..they just pick on Republicans While I am a segregationist by choice it seems for years white people just quietly move to the suburbs to get away from the big cities, often too polite to say away from the "racial" problems. Now where I am people are already moving further out.even Lex Wexner moved here. He must be sick of it too - and hey that guy got tax abatement? So I reproduce this for you as visitor number 4 of this site. Now I have an idea - Columbus is attempting to woo whites back to the city - now let us see how succesful this will be with shoot bys, rapes, murders, and I say;, at twilight time its time to vacate this once great city where people used to love to go shopping, look into the Lazaras window and the beautiful mechanical Christmas decorations, etc. So..maybe I am a racist - I do not care what anybody calls it..but what happens when old whitey has nowhere to run? Civility will cease...a well armed militia and well armed public at least in the suburbs, we do not mess around. Saba - Wonder how much this crap will cost Al Gore and Clinton..and ADL I say, now are on endangered species list? The Two Faces of the Republican Party HOME | RICHARD M. SCAIFE | DICK ARMEY | BOB BARR | GARY BAUER | DAN BURTON PAT ROBERTSON | ADOLPH COORS | JAMES DOBSON | JERRY FALWELL TOM DELAY | CHRISTIAN RECONSTRUCTIONISTS Presented by the Religious Freedom Coalition of the Southeast Neo-Confederate Nazi Racial Bigots of the GOP rise to the Top Excerpts from a news story by Stanley Crouch Somewhere in the material of the Council of Conservative Citizens, the statement is made that one should be a Nazi - but never use the word. That seems to be the approach the council is taking now that more and more light is being cast on its white supremacist doctrine, its vision of Negroes as "monkeys," its belief there was no such thing as the Holocaust and so on. This exposure would not be happening if some of us in the media hadn't focused on the fact that Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, R-Miss., and Rep. Bob Barr, R-Ga., have associated with the council. In the Washington Post, the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times, the heat has been turned up. The question that is beginning to spread is one that I believe I first raised in this column: Why is there less coverage of this story - which has real political import - than of sex, lies, soiled dresses and Hustler magazine? What appears before us now is clear: Neo-Confederates with a disguised racial policy have risen to the top of the GOP. But this rise is something that has to remain under wraps, because in the era of Michael Jordan, one cannot just come out and be a hard-core racist. That would be impolitic. Be a Nazi, but never use the word. That is why Lott and Barr have repudiated the council's philosophy. That is why the council denies its own identity and, in the words of its CEO, Gene Lee Baum, says that it is primarily a conservative organization focused on the rights and culture of Euro-Americans. The material on this organization keeps stacking up, however, and the claims Lott and Barr have made about not knowing what the council is about don't really hold water. Lott has spoken to the organization a number of times, has written a column for its publication and, according to his uncle, has had ties to it for a long time. In 1992, he praised the council for its philosophy. In 1997, council leaders met with the Mississippi senator in his Washington office. In June, when Barr appeared as the keynote speaker at a council meeting in South Carolina, the atmosphere was clearly that of a racist organization. There was plenty of material on sale about "Nordic" superiority and black inferiority, plus revisionist Holocaust documents and pro-Confederacy tracts about "the lost cause." Barr, supposedly, didn't notice any of it. This is part of something that has recently taken place in our society. The racist of old would come right out and call an insulting name at those who raised his paranoia. But these guys are cagier. Or more cowardly. Abraham Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League says it this way: "I get more racist and anti-Semitic mail with names and
Re: [CTRL] JUDICIAL WATCH FILES COMPLAINT AGAINST SENATOR HILLARY
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 01/27/2001 11:55:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Inquiry Sought Into Wholesale Gift Grab and Influence Peddling (Washington DC) Judicial Watch, the public interest law firm that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, said today that it is filing a complaint with the Senate Select Committee on Ethics over the conduct of the junior senator from New York, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. Fabulous. Wouldn't want that bunch to be out of their jobs. I was really worried. Wht will happen to "Judicial Watch" I asked myself. Now I know. They will watch forever. I was hoping they might watch the "judicial" stuff at the Supreme Court, but as long as they're active, I guess they'll get a paycheck. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America
-Caveat Lector- Subject: The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America Are you concerned about the sorry state of education in America today? Please contact as many Congress people as you can to urge them to abolish the Federal Dept. of Education. US Congressional Switchboard Toll-free Numbers 1-800-648-3516 1-877-762-8762 1-800-722-7494 The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America by Charlotte Thompson Iserbyt http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/ More Information The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America -- November 1999 Education Reporter http://eagleforum.org/educate/1999/nov99/dec99-book.html Amazon.com: buying info: The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America - A Chronological Paper Trail http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0966707109/qid%3D9804 33808/107-6708808-6938960 Book reviews Reviewer: Lois L Simpson from Woodbridge, VA United States This book is THE BOOK - to have- EVERY CONCERNED PARENT in America should invest in a copy of it. It's the encyclopedia of just what has been going on in America in the public school system- now for years and years. I can't recommend this book enough- it holds a lot of answers to so many unanswered questions. YEARS OF RESEARCH at our fingertips- it's the size of a telephone book. It's the best inside look- it's HONEST- OFFICIAL DOCUMENTATION- undisputable evidence. If every parent were to read this, we could right a terrible wrong being done in public schools today. I purchased two copies- one to share with a friend one to keep by my computer on hand. Saves me years of research AT MY FINGERTIPS. What can I say, I could of used this book ten years ago. So don't be too late being really informed- the time to catch up is now. The fact she was once a Senior Policy Advisor for the US Dept. of Education- weighs a lot on the books creditability factor. It may be in the number FOUR slot- but to me it's NUMBER ONE. /// June 29, 2000 Reviewer: Cherilyn Gulbrandsen from USA "Double agent" author/educator Charlotte Iserbyt was fired from her Washington DC post in the Department of Education for leaking this information to the press. Now, 15 years later, we get the rest of the story, packed with hard facts she confiscated from the files. A no-holds-barred approach. From conservative to liberal, no name is sacred, and all are accomplices to the crime. A MUST READ! / April 25, 2000 Reviewer: Gerry R. Coleman from usa In a telephone sized nutshell you can see source materials on the deliberate socialization of our public school system. For over 50 years the public school system has been controlled by psychologists and social planners out to create a non thinking reacting high school graduate. What child can actually think and reason in these schools today? Is it a deliberate plan to dumb our children to the point of being unable to make decisions on their own? You betcha! Why? The answers lie within. /// April 21, 2000 Reviewer: Peggy S. Cuddy, Researcher, April 20, 2000 from North Carolina, USA If one wants to find out exactly what American tax dollars have been funding for decades while students'education has been going downhill, just read Charlotte Iserbyt's new book, 'The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America.' In this book, concerned parents, teachers, school superintendents, senators and representatives on the State and Federal levels, and educational researchers will find thoroughly documented facts, which are needed in order to understand what's happened to our once excellent educational system. Iserbyt is meticulous in her research. In addition, she includes firsthand experiences, and writes in an easy to read style. Important and recognizable trends are covered by decades, so that they may be readily followed by those who are interested in understanding the plans and events which have contributed to the downward transformation of our schools and our society. So impressed by the need for wide circulation of this dedicated researcher's findings, I personally donated "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" to the library system in my area. hopefully, other readers will want to order and donate it to their local public library or nearby college library, or request that local libraries order it. The sooner its distribution all across our country occurs, the sooner a greater public awareness and understanding of our educational crisis will occur, and thus a real solution should soon follow... END Source: WorldNetDaily http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ Deliberately dumbing us down By Samuel L. Blumenfeld http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=162 49 12-16-99 Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt's new book, "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America," is without doubt
[CTRL] Fw: MORE ON GREENSPAN MARKET MANIPULATION LAWSUIT
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 5:56 AM Subject: MORE ON GREENSPAN MARKET MANIPULATION LAWSUIT Subj:[GATA] South African paper raises illegal gold manipulation issue Date:1/25/01 11:41:08 PM Central Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (GATA Committee) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12:15p ET Friday, January 26, 2001 Dear Friend of GATA and Gold: The following is an English translation of two articles published last weekend in Rapport, an Afrikaans- language newspaper, in Johannesburg, South Africa. They show that South Africa is taking notice of the imminent visit there by GATA Chairman Bill Murphy and Reginald H. Howe, our litigant against the gold cabal. CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc. * * * Anglo denies benefiting from lower gold price By Curt von Keyserlingk The gold price should be more than $600 per ounce but is being held below $270 by an unlawful conspiracy. So says American Gold Anti-Trust Action (GATA) committee chairman William Murphy. GATA supports a lawsuit brought by its adviser, Reginald Howe, in an American court for damages in this regard. Murphy and Howe will be in South Africa next week to discuss their allegations with gold producers, mining unions, and the government. Howe claims in court documents that Anglogold and Barrick of Canada "bear considerable confidential knowledge" of the conspiracy and that they profit from it, but that they "apparently do not play a significant role in the execution of the conspiracy." Defendants include Alan Greenspan, chairman of the American Federal Reserve Board; Lawrence Summers, U.S. treasury secretary; and J.P. Morgan Chase, Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank, and the Bank for International Settlements. Howe describes their actions as "among the greatest scandals in economic history." Murphy writes in an e-mail to Sake-Rapport that should Anglogold know that the gold price will not rise, it earns additional income by maximizing its hedging at a lower price. He says Anglogold also profits from a lower gold price because this weakens competing gold producers, allowing Anglogold to acquire them cheaply, as is currently happening. "If we had known that the gold price was being held down, we would have hedged considerably more of our production," says Kelvin Williams, Anglogold's marketing director. "We hedge only 20 percent of our output -- relatively little in comparison with other producers." Williams points out that Anglogold's low-hedged production equals only 30 percent of the production hedged by Australian mines, and considerably less than North American mines. Williams says Anglogold's low hedging level makes it easier to make more money when the gold price rises. This contrasts with the case of Ashanti, a gold mine in Ghana, which hedged a great portion of production and consequently came close to bankruptcy in 1999 when the gold price soared. During periods of rising prices, a producer that hedges must pay the difference between the hedge price and the market price to the bank in advance. This causes cash flow pressure because payments relate to production that has not yet been soared. Williams says he is willing to hold discussions with Howe and Murphy, should they so request. "We support any endeavour whereby gold would benefit," says Ferdi Dippenaar, marketing director of the non- hedging group, Harmony. This means that profits are more closely linked to the gold price than those of Anglogold. Dippenaar e-mailed GATA this month, confirming that his group and GATA were to hold further discussions about imbalances in the gold price. He told Sake-Rapport that some Harmony shareholders supported GATA while others remained skeptical about allegations. * * * This is how the gold price is manipulated By Curt von Keyserlingk The "conspiracy" to keep the gold price down is spurred by two causes, says Reginald Howe, the man who has subpoenaed (among others) American Federal Reserve Board Chairman Alan Greenspan and some of the world's largest banks. Howe says American authorities campaign for this, as a lower gold price masks inflation and the massive U.S. payments deficit and at the same time maintains dollar strength artificially. Banks loaned huge amounts of gold to parties who sold it, and such banks would have suffered huge losses if the price had risen, because clients could not afford to repurchase gold at higher prices in order to return it to the banks at the end of the loan term. William Murphy of GATA estimates that banks are currently lending between 10,000 and 12,000 tons of gold. In court documents Howe says Greenpan admitted to a committee of the American Congress in 1998 that central banks were poised to lend gold in increasing quantities should the price rise. Such actions place
[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Q-Who will MOST BENEFIT By School Vouchers???
-Caveat Lector- inri, I don't think from your position in Canada you can possibly have a very clear picture of the school system here. All I know is what I read but more importantly, my own personal experience with having children in this system for 16 years and being a PTA officer and school volunteer.My children are older now so I want the parents who currently have children in school to have a voice in what is done to their children. I wish I had been able to have more input into the education of my own. Much of the problem is racial in nature in the fact of crime, gangs and teachers being unable to maintain order long enough to teach. I do not think vouchers will result in racial segregation as schools will probably have some sort of racial quota requirement. If it should result in segregation, who is to blame? The schools have been fully integrated for thirty years so why did this not work? Whose fault is it? Do black children miraculously learn more/better if in immediate proximity of white ones? Consider my younger child's experience in school: He was all of 11 and in the sixth grade when one day the teacher left the room and within five minutes two students (Black)were engaged in an act of sodomy. It made CNN for a couple of rounds until someone with enough clout had the story pulled. The kid who "told' was beaten senseless by several black students before the day was out but it was their word against his and he was labeled a racists and charged with starting a fight. My son's life was not threatened until he reached the ninth grade, however, as he was one of the lucky ones with an older brother to act as body guard. It was then that he entered high school, a veritable crime zone. I remember buying four or five scientific calculators that year as he was relieved of his, and anything else black students wanted daily as they set up at the three entrances to the school and helped themselves to anything the white kids had daily. Fights are a daily occurrence, knives are pulled, lives are threatened, one white girl was raped by three black students when she accepted a ride home from working on floats with one of them. I could go on with things that happened to my children of a racial nature endlessly. The school board installed a black principal thinking the black parents would accept discipline for their children from another black but no matter what the situation, she ruled the black the victim of racism, racists, bigotry, etc. When legal charges are brought, because of their ages and being juvenile, very little was ever done. When individual teachers would try to instill some manner of order and discipline, parents of black children would say their children were being targeted, discriminated against, etc. meanwhile the black students would daily start fires in the waste cans, break the lavatories off the walls in the restrooms, and anyone who tried to stop them would be threatened and called a racist, etc. Black parents would bring in civil rights activists from all over the place. Remember when Jesse Jackson even got involved in getting off those black kids who beat up many people at a football game, rioting through the bleachers, etc. There was a time when I would have thought segregations was wrong but couple my kid's experiences with the hate being generated in this society today by those who fear their socialist agenda off track and I am not so sure. One of my kids attended a private school for two years of high school and it was NOT a religious school. Many are not. Darlington Academy of Rome, Georgia. My oldest sister has worked for the Hamilton County Board of Education for well over thirty years and her only child NEVER set foot in a public school. She said she would gladly work two or even three jobs if she had to to keep him out of the public school system. Wish I had known how to go about home schooling when mine were enrolled in this hellish system. But, yes, I am definitely for anything to keep children out of these mini war zones and from the brainwashing being administered there. Amelia - Original Message - From: "inri" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 3:49 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Q-Who will MOST BENEFIT By School Vouchers??? -Caveat Lector- You might want to do a bit more research on vouchers before getting so upset. That is not the way they work and they WILL have the money to use to educate their children in the school of their choice. It will not require anybody to be wealthy to educate their children as the vouchers are issued based on the child, not income with a set amount per child. This amount will fully cover the cost of the education of that child and will be sufficient for that at a number of schools. until the schools start raising prices as the market dictates, of course. surely the tuition will not be REQUIRED to be the amount handed out as a voucher -
[CTRL] Zoos raided as German food scares grow
-Caveat Lector- http://www.independent.co.uk/news/World/Europe/2001- 01/raided280101.shtml Zoos raided as German food scares grow By Imre Karacs in Berlin 28 January 2001 What a sad place the little city zoo in Berlin's Kreuzberg district is. Children weep for their missing favourites; Gustav the gander, his wings drooping in sorrow, pines for his harem. All the other geese have vanished in recent days, along with four ducks and seven hens. The staff have eaten them. Nothing seems sacred any more as Germans, confronted by empty shelves at the supermarkets, go foraging for food. With BSE beef already off the menu, followed by sausages and now pork, filling a German belly is becoming nearly impossible. As hunger grips, no one, not even the dedicated Kreuzberg zoo keepers, will object to a bit of free-range poultry. Other options are fast running out. Even those still willing to risk steak are finding that restaurants are no longer serving it, while meat counters have at best only a token display of browning beef. After the first scare in November, shoppers switched to game. Now the consumers are being informed that venison is also dodgy, because deer in German forests are apparently fed on the same kind of bone-meal fodder that has brought BSE to cattle. Lamb is to be avoided, scientists warn, because of scrapie. Battery chickens come laced with salmonella and occasionally dioxin. Cats and dogs, in case anyone should fancy them, are out because of the low-grade beef they consume. Other pets, such as hamsters and guinea-pigs, are equally unwholesome because they, too, have been unwittingly munching on the remnants of animal carcasses for years. That, more or less, leaves fish, largely unknown to German cuisine apart from the roll-mop variety. Fresh fish, in any case, is hard to find. There was also pork, of course, prepared in hundreds of ingenious ways from the humble fried chop to Helmut Kohl's beloved Saumagen, or stuffed pig's stomach. No German would starve while there was pork around in abundance. Unfortunately, officials discovered last week that millions of Bavarian pigs have for years been fattened up with the help of illegal drugs, including the sort of anabolic steroids that enabled East German female athletes to swim as fast as men, at the price of growing hair on their chests. To someone who does not wish to repeat the feat, pork is looking rather unappetising. It is bad news for most Germans, who would rather die than become vegetarian. What are they supposed to eat? That is the question preoccupying much of the nation's media, with television channels scheduling special programmes every day in search of the elusive answer. But so far, consumers have only learnt from these what they cannot eat, not what they can. That leaves Alfred Biolek, Germany's best-known TV chef, with the task of educating the masses. Mr Biolek is trying to wean people off their traditional greasy meat and stodgy veg. Viewers learnt the secrets of gnocchi wi th chanterelle mushrooms last week. They got the recipe for sauerkraut soup a week earlier. What people can eat is also a political question in certain sensitive areas. For instance, the German parliament's canteen appears to have banned both beef and pork. Its latest offerings include cabbage stew, elk ragout, and organic vegetarian cannelloni. Beef has also been declared verboten in the armed forces, presumably on the grounds that you cannot have mad soldiers. But too much muscle has never done the troops any harm, so pork is still allowed. Everyone else must get used to elk, reindeer, ostrich, crocodile and other exotic meats which have recently turned up at the shops, or go hunting. In this frenzy, the sheep in Kreuzberg are probably safe for the moment, but the rabbits had better watch out. Old Gustav, by the way, survived the zoo keepers' feast because he was thought to be too chewy. -- What is politics, after all, but the compulsion to preside over property and make other peoples' decisions for them? --Tom Robbins- Skinny Legs and All A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A
Re: [CTRL] Unnatural disaster: Deregulated California utilities
-Caveat Lector- Unnatural disaster Deregulated California utilities are electrocuting the public. Ohio is next by Harvey Wasserman Electric utility deregulation has become a spectacular catastrophe, starting in California and stretching deep into our economic and ecological future, here in Ohio and nationwide. To keep it simple, we'll start with the top 10 truths about this unnatural disaster: 1. There is no electric supply shortage threatening California (or the nation), only a series of complex, cynical manipulations that have ramped prices sky high, yielding enormous profits for a few distributors and generators. Get a grip on reality. The problem, is that no new sources of electricity have been developed in CA and this state continues to grow. I was just at a conference in Phoenix, while there I was told that they're building 4(four) NEW power planets to provide for their anticipated population growth!! Nuclear is clean and safe. It doesn't matter who runs the utilities, if you don't have a source generating the power, there will not be any power. Maybe here in CA they can gather up all the endangered desert rats and place them on a wheel and have them run! and voila they'll have cheap energy! LOL. Or, maybe they could put a few windmills at the doors and windows of the CA legislature and continue to blow themselves out of a crisis that they made with their insane eco/epa policies. Technology has advanced but the mentality and mindset of the politician and neo-nazi environmentalist hasn't. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Zoos raided as German food scares grow
news | World | Europe | 2001-01 Zoos raided as German food scares grow By Imre Karacs in Berlin 28 January 2001 What a sad place the little city zoo in Berlin's Kreuzberg district is. Children weep for their missing favourites; Gustav the gander, his wings drooping in sorrow, pines for his harem. All the other geese have vanished in recent days, along with four ducks and seven hens. The staff have eaten them. Nothing seems sacred any more as Germans, confronted by empty shelves at the supermarkets, go foraging for food. With BSE beef already off the menu, followed by sausages and now pork, filling a German belly is becoming nearly impossible. As hunger grips, no one, not even the dedicated Kreuzberg zoo keepers, will object to a bit of free-range poultry. Other options are fast running out. Even those still willing to risk steak are finding that restaurants are no longer serving it, while meat counters have at best only a token display of browning beef. After the first scare in November, shoppers switched to game. Now the consumers are being informed that venison is also dodgy, because deer in German forests are apparently fed on the same kind of bone-meal fodder that has brought BSE to cattle. Lamb is to be avoided, scientists warn, because of scrapie. Battery chickens come laced with salmonella and occasionally dioxin. Cats and dogs, in case anyone should fancy them, are out because of the low-grade beef they consume. Other pets, such as hamsters and guinea-pigs, are equally unwholesome because they, too, have been unwittingly munching on the remnants of animal carcasses for years. That, more or less, leaves fish, largely unknown to German cuisine apart from the roll-mop variety. Fresh fish, in any case, is hard to find. There was also pork, of course, prepared in hundreds of ingenious ways from the humble fried chop to Helmut Kohl's beloved Saumagen , or stuffed pig's stomach. No German would starve while there was pork around in abundance. Unfortunately, officials discovered last week that millions of Bavarian pigs have for years been fattened up with the help of illegal drugs, including the sort of anabolic steroids that enabled East German female athletes to swim as fast as men, at the price of growing hair on their chests. To someone who does not wish to repeat the feat, pork is looking rather unappetising. It is bad news for most Germans, who would rather die than become vegetarian. What are they supposed to eat? That is the question preoccupying much of the nation's media, with television channels scheduling special programmes every day in search of the elusive answer. But so far, consumers have only learnt from these what they cannot eat, not what they can. That leaves Alfred Biolek, Germany's best-known TV chef, with the task of educating the masses. Mr Biolek is trying to wean people off their traditional greasy meat and stodgy veg. Viewers learnt the secrets of gnocchi with chanterelle mushrooms last week. They got the recipe for sauerkraut soup a week earlier. What people can eat is also a political question in certain sensitive areas. For instance, the German parliament's canteen appears to have banned both beef and pork. Its latest offerings include cabbage stew, elk ragout, and organic vegetarian cannelloni. Beef has also been declared verboten in the armed forces, presumably on the grounds that you cannot have mad soldiers. But too much muscle has never done the troops any harm, so pork is still allowed. Everyone else must get used to elk, reindeer, ostrich, crocodile and other exotic meats which have recently turned up at the shops, or go hunting. In this frenzy, the sheep in Kreuzberg are probably safe for the moment, but the rabbits had better watch out. Old Gustav, by the way, survived the zoo keepers' feast because he was thought to be too chewy. news | World | Europe | 2001-01 Up
Re: [CTRL] Disclaimers and Men who think they have a right to hurt Women
-Caveat Lector- NESSIE, as for your threats to "hurt" the poster, I did no such thing. I merely defined the conditions under which I would hurt the poster (or anybody else, for that matter). I did this by once again restating the by now well known fact that I require people in my physical presence to treat me and my friends with respect. That's how I live my life. If you don't like it, too bad. If you dont like us, keep it to yourself and go somewhere else. I cannot tell you the contempt with which I now hold you. Like I care. I have been doing volunteer work with battered women the last three years. Good for you. Now let's get back to the topic. We're not talking about battered women here. We're not even talking about women. Were talking about pixels on a screen. What on earth makes you think the "Kindred Spirit" is a woman? It is every bit as likely that "Kindred Spirit" is a man, a committee, a literary character, or an Artificial Intelligence subroutine. There is simply no way to tell. Consider the context. This is NOT in person, face to face. This is the internet. People regularly assume multiple personas here. It's the norm. For all you know for sure, I myself am a woman. Just because I say I am not proves nothing. It is also equally likely that I myself am a committee, a literary character, or an Artificial Intelligence subroutine. You dont know. You cant know. So, not knowing what "Kindred Spirit" is, or for that matter what you are, I restate my position. This applies to everybody, male, female, animal and machine. I don't care what you think, what you say when I'm not present, or what you say on the internet. It's nothing but a bunch of pixels on a screen. It's not worth getting upset about. But if you track me down, and come into my real world physical presence, you are going to have to play by my rules just like everybody else does when they are in my physical presence. Those rules are simple. I enforce them vigorously: (1.) Do not attempt to harm me or any of my friends. (2.) Show respect. Otherwise I'll hurt you. Its as simple as that. If you are a woman, I'll let you insult me and only get insults back. Im pretty good at insults. Theyll hurt plenty. Hell, I'll even let you swing on me first, once and only once. I won't let you pull a gun. Pull a gun and Ill treat you like Id treat anybody else who pulls a gun. Men I cut even less slack. If you're a man, don't even look like you're thinking about hurting me. It's the wrong move. It will precipitate a preemptive strike. And if you pull a gun, I'll kill you on the spot. Promise. Insult me to my face, insult my friends in front of me, especially with a racial slur, and I WILL kick your butt into the middle of next week. Promise. And youll make a very satisfying thump when you hit the floor. Capiesc'? A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Zoos raided as German food scares grow
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: kl Sent: Sat 1/27/2001 2:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject:[CTRL] Zoos raided as German food scares grow -Caveat Lector- http://www.independent.co.uk/news/World/Europe/2001- 01/raided280101.shtml Zoos raided as German food scares grow By Imre Karacs in Berlin 28 January 2001 What a sad place the little city zoo in Berlin's Kreuzberg district is. Children weep for their missing favourites; Gustav the gander, his wings drooping in sorrow, pines for his harem. All the other geese have vanished in recent days, along with four ducks and seven hens. The staff have eaten them. Nothing seems sacred any more as Germans, confronted by empty shelves at the supermarkets, go foraging for food. With BSE beef already off the menu, followed by sausages and now pork, filling a German belly is becoming nearly impossible. As hunger grips, no one, not even the dedicated Kreuzberg zoo keepers, will object to a bit of free-range poultry. Other options are fast running out. Even those still willing to risk steak are finding that restaurants are no longer serving it, while meat counters have at best only a token display of browning beef. After the first scare in November, shoppers switched to game. Now the consumers are being informed that venison is also dodgy, because deer in German forests are apparently fed on the same kind of bone-meal fodder that has brought BSE to cattle. Lamb is to be avoided, scientists warn, because of scrapie. Battery chickens come laced with salmonella and occasionally dioxin. Cats and dogs, in case anyone should fancy them, are out because of the low-grade beef they consume. Other pets, such as hamsters and guinea-pigs, are equally unwholesome because they, too, have been unwittingly munching on the remnants of animal carcasses for years. That, more or less, leaves fish, largely unknown to German cuisine apart from the roll-mop variety. Fresh fish, in any case, is hard to find. There was also pork, of course, prepared in hundreds of ingenious ways from the humble fried chop to Helmut Kohl's beloved Saumagen, or stuffed pig's stomach. No German would starve while there was pork around in abundance. Unfortunately, officials discovered last week that millions of Bavarian pigs have for years been fattened up with the help of illegal drugs, including the sort of anabolic steroids that enabled East German female athletes to swim as fast as men, at the price of growing hair on their chests. To someone who does not wish to repeat the feat, pork is looking rather unappetising. It is bad news for most Germans, who would rather die than become vegetarian. What are they supposed to eat? That is the question preoccupying much of the nation's media, with television channels scheduling special programmes every day in search of the elusive answer. But so far, consumers have only learnt from these what they cannot eat, not what they can. That leaves Alfred Biolek, Germany's best-known TV chef, with the task of educating the masses. Mr Biolek is trying to wean people off their traditional greasy meat and stodgy veg. Viewers learnt the secrets of gnocchi wi th chanterelle mushrooms last week. They got the recipe for sauerkraut soup a week earlier. What people can eat is also a political question in certain sensitive areas. For instance, the German parliament's canteen appears to have banned both beef and pork. Its latest offerings include cabbage stew, elk ragout, and organic vegetarian cannelloni. Beef has also been declared verboten in the armed forces, presumably on the grounds that you cannot have mad soldiers. But too much muscle has never done the troops any harm, so pork is still allowed. Everyone else must get used to elk, reindeer, ostrich, crocodile and other exotic meats which have recently turned up at the shops, or go hunting. In this frenzy, the sheep in Kreuzberg are probably safe for the moment, but the rabbits had better watch out. Old Gustav, by the way, survived the zoo keepers' feast because he was thought to be too chewy. -- What is politics, after all, but the compulsion to preside over property and make other peoples' decisions for them? --Tom Robbinsá- Skinny Legs and All A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
[CTRL] Brazilian farmers storm Monsanto, uproot plants
http://news.excite.com/news/r/010126/08/brazil-protest-monsanto Brazilian farmers storm Monsanto, uproot plants Updated 8:52 AM ET January 26, 2001 By Marco SibajaNAO ME TOQUE, Brazil (Reuters) - More than a thousand poor Brazilian farmers, joined by activists attending an anti-World Economic Forum summit, stormed a biotech plant owned by U.S. life sciences giant Monsanto, threatening Friday to camp out indefinitely to protest genetically modified (GM) food.Some 1,200 workers from settlements of the radical Landless Workers Movement (MST) in Brazil's southernmost state of Rio Grande do Sul invaded the plant just before midnight Thursday, yanking out GM corn and soybeans crops at Monsanto's experimental farm."We're staying here indefinitely," said Solet Campolete, a local MST leader. "We want to make a statement ... these seeds trick farmers and create dependency on seeds produced by a big multinational."The MST families took over the research center and warehouses, hanging hammocks and setting up mattresses and boxes of food. The protesters scrawled on the walls, "The seed of death!" and "Monsanto is the end of farmers!"Monsanto said Friday it had requested that local authorities "restore order" at the unit."Monsanto regrets this incident in which it was a victim of an aggressive movement that puts the rights to freedom of movement and to private property at risk, but it affirms its confidence in democracy and a quick reaction by authorities to restore order," the company said in a statement. ANTI-DAVOS FACTION JOINS PROTEST Militant farmers from around the globe who are in Brazil for the World Social Forum, a rival meeting to the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, joined the protesters.Jose Bove, the French farmer and leader of the Confederation Paysanne who catapulted to fame when he trashed his local McDonald's, took a four hour bus ride from the state capital of Porto Alegre to lend his support."Monsanto says transgenics require less pesticides and chemicals, but that's a lie. Transgenics increase dependence on those products," he said.Monsanto says its lab-enhanced seeds increase productivity and reduce the use of agrochemicals among other benefits, but watchdog groups like Greenpeace have opposed the wide-scale use of biotechnology that they say has not been developed with sufficient environmental and health impact studies.They also worry it will force farmers to become dependent on seeds produced in corporate laboratories rather than on those grown in the field.Brazil is the only country in the Western Hemisphere that attempts to ban the commercial planting, importing or sale of GM food, but they do allow research.Still, it has been an ongoing battle with the government often trying to reverse its position on GM and some farmers smuggling in GM seeds from neighboring Argentina. Industry insiders suspect up to a third of Rio Grande do Sul's soybean crop is GM.The some 10,000 activists united in Porto Alegre for the "Anti-Davos" forum are expected to condemn GM food along with a wide range of what they say are neoliberal and capitalist policies that have deepened the divide between the rich and poor. MST families have led protests outside the Monsanto plant but it is the first time they invaded the facility.
[CTRL] Russia vs. New World Order
http://www.newdawnmagazine.com.au/Articles/Russia_vs_New_World_Order.html Russia vs. New World Order By Susan Bryce At the September 2000 meeting of the Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez characterised the rising discontent with the US inspired New World Order when he stated: “The 20th century was a bipolar century, but the 21st is not going to be unipolar. The 21st century should be multipolar, and we all ought to push for the development of such a world. So, long live a united Asia, a united Africa, a united Europe!” The New World Order, a euphemism for US hegemony, is based upon a unipolar concept of the world, meaning US superpower domination. What is developing, however, is a multipolar world, implying many centres of influence, including Russia. The Russian Federation considers that social progress, stability and international security can only be guaranteed in the framework of a multipolar world and resents attempts by the US to marginalise Moscow in world affairs. Hence, Russia has become a political, military and cultural thorn in the side of the New World Order, representing an obstacle to its goals. Following the end of the Cold War, US President George Bush declared a New World Order, in which the heavy hand of American imperialism would fill the post Cold War geopolitical vacuum, enabling the US to ultimately conquer the geopolitical space of the former Soviet Union and interpose its authority over all of Europe. Plan to Disempower Russia In his 1993 book, Out of Control, Zbigniew Brzezinski describes the US strategy as: “An invasion… created by the dissolution of the Soviet Union, aiming to transform the former republics of the Soviet Union into an area of overt and exclusive preponderance of American power.” He argues that American hegemony is unlike any previous hegemony because it is truly global. It is based on an unprecedented mixture of military supremacy, ideological ascendancy, technological innovation and control of the world’s financial system. Brzezinski says quite clearly that if America wants to control the world, as she should, then she must establish domination over Eurasia, especially what he calls “its Western periphery” (i.e. the European Union) and also its ‘Heartland’, the Middle East, Central Asia and the oil resources which flow from there. To coincide with the release of Brzezinski’s Out of Control, former National Security Adviser to President Clinton, Anthony Lake, defined the new expansionist doctrine of the United States in a foreign policy statement, “From Containment to Enlargement”. Lake’s statement asserted that, “the successor to the Cold War doctrine of containment must be the doctrine and strategy of enlargement.” The recent past is testimony to attacks upon Russia, aimed at reducing the great bear to pauperism and totally disempowering it in line with US expansionist policy. The dying days of the Clinton administration saw the release of the Cox Commission report, ‘Russia’s Road to Corruption: How the Clinton Administration Exported Government Instead of Free Enterprise and Failed the Russian People.’ The report accused a “troika” of Clinton administration officials – Vice President Al Gore, Deputy Secretary of State Strobe Talbott, and Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers – of implementing policies that fostered corruption and criminality and retarded Russia’s free market and democratic development. Russian President Vladimir Putin recently acknowledged that Russia is in the midst of one of the most difficult periods in its history. In the aftermath of Gorbachev, Russia was seen as a state without politics. Explaining this conception, Russian political philosopher Alexander Dugin says, “the main postulate of the Russian ruling elite in the liberal period was confidence in the fact that confrontation with the West resulted from the difference of social, economic and ideological models. On the basis of this, all the economic, political, foreign, cultural, and defence strategy of the Russian Federation was built. The country’s leaders seriously thought that giving up the Marxist outlook along with the socialist economy would automatically create a balanced system in Russia with the active and friendly cooperation of the West. This was a fatal mistake and it took a decade to realise it. With the obvious appearance of geopolitical factors, everyone realised that the Cold War was not just a display of an ideological duel, but the display of a historical constant, not dependent on social or political up-to-dateness. It was just one of the stages in the ‘great war of continents’.” Russia's Concept of the World in the 21st Century Since Vladimir Putin has been in charge of Russia, his initiatives have centred upon opposition to a unipolar world, and the advocacy of multipolarity. Rather than surrendering to the viperous aims of the
Re: [CTRL] JUDICIAL WATCH FILES COMPLAINT AGAINST SENATOR HILLARY
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/27/01 10:55:13 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. Recent press reports have detailed the unprecedented âhaulâ the Clintons have removed from The White House at the end of their eight year reign. The Reagan's got away with a much larger haul than that. I forget how many plane loads it took to remove the bounty. Nancy hadn't declared most of her gifts on taxes. There was an IRS investigation and she was forced to pay about $1 million in back taxes. (From memory from Kitty Kelly's book 'Nancy Reagan'). As I recall, this was happening around the same time Leona Helmseley was in jail for tax evasion. If the gifts were accepted by Bill Hill before she was sworn in as Senator, I doubt Judicial Watch has a leg to stand on. But they probably just like the publicity of non-stop harassment of the Clintons. Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Murderer as peacemaker?
-Caveat Lector- what ? the UN found him DIRECTLY responsible Israel had found him INDIRECTLY responsible and i dont think the country that he fights for is gonna punish him either. just look at the way the guy that killed that 10 year old got away with it From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Murderer as peacemaker? Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:20:04 -0500 -Caveat Lector- goolie smith wrote: -Caveat Lector- What are you on man ? Ariel Sharon, was found directly responsible for massacres of palestinians in UN shelters. Actally, he was found INDIRECTLY responsible. The killings were done against his direct orders by a Syrian opperative who was a Christian Phalangist. If you want to know more about this, see... *From Israel to Damascus* on the Net. A book written by one of the Phalangist militiamen who actually did the killing. Joshua2 Mere civilans just trying to survive in UN encampments, when along comes 'the buldozer'. It wasnt even 2 or 20 people that he was responsible for killing, the total tally reached the hundreds. The next time you see Yasser Arafat/Ariel Sharon talking politely to Ted Koppel on "Nightline," I want you to remember that behind that phony smile is the conscience of a killer. He's the premeditated murderer of U.S. diplomats/hundreds of humans. The next time you hear about the need for a Palestinian state/security, I want you to remember that the leader for life of that nation will be Yasser Arafat/Ariel Sharon. Does that really sound like the foundation for a permanent peace? See it works both ways From: Amelia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Murderer as peacemaker? Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 01:01:26 -0600 -Caveat Lector- Murderer as peacemaker? © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com How would you like it if millions of your hard-earned tax dollars were sent to a little foreign dictator who murdered two American diplomats and got away with it? I'm sure you would not be a happy camper. Well, as much as I hate to upset you, dear readers, that is precisely what is happening with the millions of dollars the U.S. is transferring in foreign aid to Yasser Arafat and his Palestine Authority. Maybe you didn't know about Arafat's murderous record before. For that you can be excused, because the establishment press has not done much to expose this petty tyrant -- this killer of unarmed, innocent Americans simply doing their country's diplomatic duty. But once I tell you the details of this heinous crime -- this unforgivable act of bloodlust -- you won't have any excuses, anymore. If you don't act -- if you don't scream about it to your elected officials in Washington -- then you, too, will be tacitly guilty of rewarding a cowardly killer for his evil deeds. Here are the facts, as I revealed in a news story in WorldNetDaily last week: On Feb. 28, 1973, Yasser Arafat was overheard by Israeli and U.S. intelligence operatives planning a Black September terrorist operation in Khartoum, Sudan. His transmissions were tape-recorded. They were transcribed, and warnings were issued by National Security Agency personnel to the U.S. Embassy in Sudan. Unfortunately, the alert was delayed because of a bureaucratic snafu. A day later, eight Black September terrorists stormed the Saudi Arabian embassy in Khartoum and grabbed U.S. Ambassador Cleo Noel, Charge d'Affaires George Curtis Moore and others hostage. On March 2, 1973, after the terrorists' demands for the release of Sirhan Sirhan, Robert F. Kennedy's assassin, were rebuffed by President Nixon, Arafat was heard and recorded, once again, providing the code words for the execution of Noel, Moore and Belgian diplomat Guy Eid. They were machine-gunned to death. Until last week, no American involved in this tragedy had spoken out on the details of that tragedy. But 28 years later, James Welsh, the Palestinian analyst for the NSA who issued the first alert on the incident, went public with charges of a cover-up of Arafat's key role in the planning and execution of the attack. Think about it. Yasser Arafat just visited the White House a few weeks ago. He has won the Nobel Peace Prize. He is heralded as a moderating force for compromise in the Middle East. Yet, the truth is, he is a cold-blooded murderer of innocent Americans. "No one wants to touch this thing," Welsh says. "It's a hot potato. No one wants to be responsible for derailing the Mideast peace process." But Welsh thinks the American people, who are footing much of the bill for Arafat's current activities, have a right to know about his personal responsibility for the murder of two Americans. And he is the
[CTRL] CNS: Ashcroft Supporters Refute Hormel [Gay] Allegations
-Caveat Lector- "The issue all along has been Hormel's reluctance to distance himself from anti-Catholic bigots, not his sexual orientation ..." http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=\Politics\archive\200101\POL20 010126d.html Ashcroft Supporters Refute Hormel Allegations By Lawrence Morahan CNS Senior Staff Writer January 26, 2001 (CNSNews.com) - A claim by homosexual activist James Hormel that Attorney General-designate John Ashcroft opposed Hormel's nomination as ambassador to Luxembourg in 1998 "solely because I am a gay man" is unfair and without basis in fact, family and religious groups said Friday. Ashcroft and a majority of senators opposed Hormel not because of his homosexuality, but because of his funding of obscene material for children, his failure to denounce pedophilia and a "tolerance for anti-Catholicism," they said. The New York-based Catholic League spoke out against Hormel's nomination because of his association with the "Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence," a group of drag queens that dressed as nuns and took part in the 1996 Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender Pride Parade in San Francisco. During the parade, Hormel welcomed the queens and encouraged their antics. "Worse than this was Hormel's refusal to disassociate himself from this Catholic-bashing incident," said William Donohue, president of the Catholic League. "The issue all along has been Hormel's reluctance to distance himself from anti-Catholic bigots, not his sexual orientation," he added. Hormel, who recently returned to the United States after serving a term as ambassador to Luxembourg, said Ashcroft opposed his nomination on sexual grounds. At his Senate confirmation hearings last week, Ashcroft denied that, saying sexual preference was not a factor in his hiring practices as a governor or as a senator, nor would it be if he is confirmed as attorney general. Hormel accused Ashcroft of an "anti-gay prejudice," which could affect how he handles the attorney general's job. Hormel's allegation, and that of Paul Offner, a Democrat who said Ashcroft asked him about his sexuality during a 1985 job interview, has prompted family groups to rally to Ashcroft's defense. Andrea Lafferty, executive director of Traditional Values Coalition, is circulating, among freshman senators, packages of explicit materials she received at the James Hormel Gay and Lesbian Reading Center at the San Francisco Public Library, a Hormel-funded enterprise. Included in the packages are copies of a graphic "Coloring Book" of female genitalia and crayons - materials that are made available to children at the Hormel library. Lafferty discovered the lesbian coloring book - along with other reading materials by the North American Man Boy Love Association that promoted incest and sex between children and adults - during several trips to the Hormel reading center. The center's function is to make homosexuality attractive to children, and it distributes obscene material to children, Lafferty said. "If the library had Dick Armey or Trent Lott's name, the liberals would run them out of town," she said. "Senators should applaud Ashcroft for his opposition to Hormel for promoting this kind of obscene material," she added. During the nomination hearings in 1998, Hormel refused to comment on the materials in his library. His supporters said Hormel personally found some of the materials offensive, but to hold him responsible would be like "holding the Hirshhorns responsible for what is in their museum on the Mall." But Lafferty and others categorically refute this argument. "They are distorting the truth," Lafferty said. "What they fail to acknowledge is that sex between adults and children is illegal, and that is what is in the Hormel library. Hormel has for years refused to denounce pedophilia and he has refused to denounce incest." Much of the opposition to Ashcroft stems from the fear that the attorney general-designate will crack down on pedophiles and enforce the laws on obscenity and pornography, family groups said. Lafferty said she would not have brought back the subject of what is available for children at the Hormel reading center had it not been for attacks on Ashcroft and his record. "They made Hormel the issue. They've been lying about Ashcroft and his record. They're trying to make Ashcroft the fall guy." = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with
[CTRL] NYDN: Sect Members Pocketed Funds
-Caveat Lector- Sect Members Pocketed Funds Stolen cash paid for personal expenses By GREG B. SMITH Daily News Staff Writer 1/26/2001 The four New Square felons granted clemency by former President Bill Clinton argued they had never benefited personally from the $40 million they stole in government funds. But a detailed examination of the case by the Daily News shows that they used millions in taxpayer dollars to pay for a wide range of personal expenses from rent to diapers to car repairs for themselves and other members of their Rockland County Hasidic sect. [PHOTO] A box marked 'Clinton Foreign Official Gifts' is unloaded from a truck at the building housing the Clinton library in Arkansas. The four men Kalmen Stern, David Goldstein, Jacob Elbaum and Benjamin Berger were convicted in January 1999 of stealing millions worth of student Pell grants, housing subsidies and small-business loans. As part of their sentences, they were ordered to make full restitution of the stolen funds. But, The News has learned, it is highly unlikely that any of the $40 million will ever be repaid. Last week, as he left office, Clinton significantly reduced the prison sentences of the four New Square felons weeks after supporters met privately at the White House with the outgoing President and First Lady. Hillary Rodham Clinton, who also met with New Square Hasidic leaders in August, during her Senate campaign, has denied taking a position on the sentence commutation. In the November election, the New Square community voted overwhelmingly for her. In requesting clemency, the felons argued that their crimes were more technical than evil. They also contended they had not gained personally from their fraud, merely using federal funds meant for one good cause to fund other altruistic causes. "The crimes here essentially involved the diversion of funds to other community needs, no personal enrichment," said lawyer Samuel Rosenthal, who handled the commutation application. "Not one of the four had an excessive or elaborate lifestyle, but instead had always lived in the most modest conditions." But the prosecutors who brought the federal case, and evidence produced at trial, indicate otherwise. Elbaum was convicted of illegally pocketing $26,000, Berger $22,000 and Stern $16,464 in housing subsidies. Evidence showed that they lied about their amount of taxable income to qualify for the Department of Housing and Urban Development rent grants. At trial, Assistant U.S. Attorney Deborah Landis told the jury some of the money went for "everything from diapers to car repairs." For example, she said, Goldstein leased an expensive black Acura. Claiming poverty on behalf of Elbaum, lawyer Charles Stillman told The News his client will never be able to repay the HUD subsidies or the $11 million he owes the Department of Education for his role in the Pell grant scam. "My client is as poor as a church mouse," said Stillman. "He is the father of eight children who lives in the most humble of surroundings. He has no money, he has no savings." Most of the government money stolen in the New Square scheme was funneled through Toldos Yakof Yosef a fictitious yeshiva that Assistant U.S. Attorney Joanna Hendon described at trial as "the perfect Pell grant machine." Evidence shows that the phony religious school existed only as an address on Heyward St. in Brooklyn. The New Square community, according to the evidence, illegally used Pell grant funds to buy the building. "Each of the men in this courtroom knowingly and repeatedly, and for profit, affiliated themselves with a monstrous fraud," Hendon said during the two-month trial that ended in January 1999. According to testimony, the four defendants also paid New Square residents to become "students" so they could apply for Pell grants. One "philosophy" student did not speak English or know what a term paper was. The four felons also used some of the government funds to pay themselves salaries as "mentors" and "administrators" in the nonexistent program. At trial, prosecutors Landis and Hendon introduced evidence that the scheme went well beyond Toldos Yakof Yosef. Some of the fake students also supposedly attended other yeshivas in Rockland County and Brooklyn. Also, the four were convicted of setting up a shell corporation to net $100,000 in small-business loans. That money was doled out to various community concerns. Goldstein was convicted of collecting $146,000 in Social Security benefits for a retired couple living in Israel and unaware of the scheme. In a separate case, another New Square leader, Samuel Weissmandl, was convicted of stealing more than $750,000 in federal housing funds from the same pile of federal funds. Among other things, Weissmandl used the money for landscaping services at his and his relatives' homes. He was convicted and is serving prison time. Clinton did not commute his sentence.
[CTRL] FOX: Irate Burton Pursues Investigation
-Caveat Lector- [I'm just curious... Just how far back do the Clintons and Mark Rich go ? I don't have the articles, but I remember several proving Vince Foster's Swiss travels...from Ark. and D.C. One writer even found the credit card slips for a Swiss trip Foster canceled right before he died. What's more, according to The New York Post-January 25, 2001: "IF anyone launches an investigation into how billionaire tax cheat Marc Rich got himself a presidential pardon, maybe they should also look into how the fugitive, who fled to Switzerland in 1983, was able to sneak in and out of the U.S. 10 years later. Rich's ex-wife, Denise - who has lived lavishly on Fifth Avenue while Rich was on the lam - has told people that Rich was able to visit his daughter Gabrielle in 1996 as she lay dying of leukemia in a California hospital. "I heard it from her own lips," said our source. The pertinent question is: Did President Clinton arrange for Rich to make the visit without fear of arrest?" --MS] Irate Burton Pursues Investigation Friday, January 26, 2001 By Rita Cosby and Sharon Kehnemui FOX News WASHINGTON The Chairman of the House Government Reform Committee says he wants an explanation why a fugitive billionaire was given a pardon by President Clinton on his last day in office. Rep. Dan Burton, R-IN, a vocal Clinton critic, has requested documents from six locations in Washington, including the Department of Justice (DOJ). "We want to have some kind of explanation to the American people why this pardon took place," Burton told FOX News. "I think the American people are owed an explanation and because Bill Clinton won't give them one, we think it's our responsibility to make sure that they know what happened." Burton says he wants to know why Marc Rich, a billionaire who has been living in Switzerland since 1983, was among the 140 pardons Clinton granted on his last day in office. Rich and partner Pincus Green were indicted in one of the largest tax evasion cases in history. Green was also pardoned. Rich's ex-wife Denise Rich, a Grammy-winning songwriter, is a Clinton pal and a big campaign contributor to the Clintons and the Democratic party, donating more than $1 million. She also gave a pair of coffee tables and chairs to the Clintons recently, worth more than $7,000. Burton wants to know if there is a line connecting those dots. "Mr. Rich's former wife... was told by President Clinton that he would not forget her kindness and her largesse at a party in New York and then Mr. Rich is pardoned even though he had been indicted on 51 counts and fled the country to avoid the prosecution," Burton said. New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who as a Federal prosecutor charged Rich, is demanding a congressional investigation. Sen. Pete Domenici, R-NM, is also wondering if the pardon was a quid pro quo to the Riches for all the money that Denise Rich donated. "Something is wrong with the Mark Rich pardon. There must be something that we don't know, We ought to find out about it, if it is a quid pro quo that's very, very, serious in terms of the president's abuse of pardons," said Sen. Pete Domenici, R-NM. Clinton has said he looked at the merits of the Rich case and others and based his decision to issue pardons on that. But Margaret Love, a former DOJ pardon attorney said that Clinton's decision and its timing are unusual. "I think that he waited until the very end and decided to do everything that he wanted to do there at the very end, instead of doing it in a regular housekeeping way across his term, the way all presidents have done in the past," Love told FOX News. Friday, Jack Quinn, the former White House counsel, and an attorney now representing Rich, defended the pardon and said the prosecution against Rich was flawed and that he should not have been criminally prosecuted to begin with. He maintained the case, involving embargoed oil exports from Iran, was a civil matter. "Rich has not escaped potential liability for his actions only the overreaching criminal prosecution to which he should never have been subject," Quinn wrote in an op-ed for The Washington Post. "The presidential pardon can and should be employed when a president resolves a dispute about whether the law and policies of the Justice Department support the use of civil rather than criminal sanctions in response to an individual's alleged wrongful conduct in the eyes of the United States." But Burton said the criminal charges were rightly filed. "I think he did do many things wrong. I mean we had an embargo against Iran at a time when the Iranians and the Ayatollah had many Americans being held hostage. He was doing business with them in violation of the embargo," Burton said. "He fled the country because I think he thought he was going to come to trial and possibly be convicted." Burton said the case is a non-partisan one, both Democrats and Republicans are stunned by Clinton's action. Sen. Arlen
[CTRL] Fear and Furs: The pomp and protests of W.s stolen inauguration
-Caveat Lector- Fear and Furs http://www.laweekly.com/ink/01/10/news-ehrenreich.shtml The pomp and protests of W.'s stolen inauguration by Ben Ehrenreich Jan. 26 - Feb. 1, 200 It was at his first inaugural address in the early years of the Great Depression that Franklin Delano Roosevelt famously warned that fear was the nation's greatest danger "nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror." In these more prosperous times, fear itself was the dominant note at George W. Bush's tainted inauguration in Washington, D.C., last weekend fear and furs, lots of furs, mink after mink after mink, the lustrous hides of entire generations of rodents. In the most heavily guarded inaugural celebration in American history, more than 7,000 officers from more than a dozen law-enforcement agencies flooded the city to ensure that Bush and his legions of tuxedoed and mink-wrapped supporters could enjoy their $40 million corporate-sponsored victory party in royal style. As thousands of demonstrators from widely disparate backgrounds trooped through the cold and rain-soaked streets to voice their outrage, National Guardsmen lurked nearby, outfitted for urban combat; armored cars and a 70-man FBI SWAT team waited out of sight. Police set up 10 checkpoints through which the general public including tens of thousands of parade-goers as well as protesters had to pass to get to the inaugural parade route. All bags, even umbrellas, were searched at the checkpoints. Following a lawsuit brought by protest organizers, U.S. District Judge Gladys Kessler grudgingly approved the security plan despite "very, very deep concerns." She warned, "The very term 'checkpoint' has what I would call an odious connotation of repression . . . Every citizen has the freedom to walk the streets of this land." Agreeing with Kessler, protesters took over the streets of the capital for the day on Saturday, cheerfully braving the assaults of both the weather and the police, defying aggressive attempts to contain them, charging through one of the security checkpoints and raining on the presidential parade with loud and visible dissent. Along with cheers from onlookers in cashmere overcoats and furs, the executive limousine was greeted with great choruses of boos, with nearly as many protest signs as black umbrellas, and at one point with a skillfully lobbed orange. By the end of the day, Bush had broken into the White House, with the blessings of the Supreme Court; police had arrested about 10 protesters on charges ranging from disorderly conduct to felony assault on a police officer. Hours before Bush was sworn in on the Capitol steps, protesters were converging throughout downtown Washington. The International Action Center (IAC), leading a call to "Stop the Death Machine" and protesting a range of issues from capital punishment to police brutality to corporate globalization, staked out the Pennsylvania Avenue parade route four hours before the procession was scheduled to begin. The Justice Action Movement, a coalition of progressive groups, and the Million Voter March, composed largely of more centrist Democrats angry about the election debacle and Bush's far-right cabinet appointees, rallied at Dupont Circle before heading to Pennsylvania Avenue. Several hundred New Black Panthers marched to declare a "Day of Outrage" at the disenfranchisement of African-American voters in Florida. Reverend Al Sharpton led over 1,000 in a "Shadow Inauguration" at Stanton Park, swearing: "We've taken an oath today that we will turn this nation around, and it'll take more than senior Bush or little junior Bush to turn us around." The Revolutionary Anti-Authoritarian Bloc, better known as the Black Bloc, convened at Franklin Square, yards away from the spot where anarchist protesters were clubbed and tear-gassed by D.C. police during last April's rallies against the International Monetary Fund. The day's first confrontation with police took place not long after the latter group, about 500 anarchists wearing black bandannas and hooded sweatshirts, joined by the odd mainstream Gore supporter, began marching at 10 a.m. to chants of "Who is the enemy? The state is the enemy!" By 11 a.m. they had picked up an escort of about two dozen cops on foot at the rear of the march. This happened after an hour of parading through the streets, waving signs (a sampling of messages: "No Aid to Israeli Apartheid," "Protect the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge," "End the Racist Death Penalty," "Genetic Engineering: What Are You Doing to Our Food?" "The Real Elections Are in the Streets"), occasionally targeting the property of their adversaries with a brick (one was thrown at the window of an Armed Forces Recruitment Center it missed) or can of spray paint (the facade of the Washington Post building was tagged with circled A, as the crowd yelled "Fuck Corporate Media!"), dragging newspaper boxes into the street to slow the police cars trailing them. As the group turned the corner at
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Q-Who will MOST BENEFIT By School Vouchers???
-Caveat Lector- inri, I don't think from your position in Canada you can possibly have a very clear picture of the school system here. no, i must admit, that i probably don't. but if the average portrayed intelligence by the americans i speak to online is any indication then you guys really, really need to do SOMETHING and QUICK. the problem isn't that you don't know how to read or write or figure out change from a 10. it's that you seem to be, in many cases, stuck in the nineteenth century when it comes to social values, race relations, religion, etc.. collectively, you have an appalling lack of understanding of the history of even your OWN COUNTRY and you seem unable to grasp that you make up a tiny fraction of the world population. [a generalization, i apologize for those of you who are educated.] americans aren't the laughing stock of the internet [another generalization, i apologize again.] without good reason. to me, this high level of ignorance seems to merely show a lack of quality education where it really matters. perhaps this is intentional. but when people like david duke get significant amounts of the vote when they run for office, i blame a lack of quality education. when people blame high crime in cities on racial minorities instead of much more logical and obvious factors [poverty that was created by the ruling whites; drugs that were forced down their throats by the ruling whites; gangs that were created as protection from corrupt, primarily white, police officers, etc] then i blame a lack of quality education. when people like rudolph giuliani spray toxic chemicals on your cities to combat harmless viruses and barely a murmur is raised, i blame a lack of quality education. when your election is rigged and nobody gives a fuck, i blame a lack of quality education. we don't have problems like this in canada. i give the credit to a surplus of quality PUBLIC education. Much of the problem is racial in nature in the fact of crime, gangs and teachers being unable to maintain order long enough to teach. i don't want to play your game. the problem here is not racial in nature, it's due to differences in monetary income. blacks, latinos, whites or martians all resort to crime when they have no other option to maintain a stable income. when one has no chance at a quality education [something vouchers will not alleviate. don't go back to that.] one generally has no marketable skills. when one has no marketable skills what is one to do? you can't even get a job at mcdonalds without a high school diploma, and it's difficult to obtain a high school diploma when your schools are falling apart, your government is pumping you full of opiates and you're surrounded with carcinogens; when one grows up surrounded by crime to the extent that it has become normal, to the extent that crack-cocaine is a normal past-time, to the extent that a well paying job is merely a pipedreamwhat do you expect to happen? huh? and where does this all come from? eh? who runs eli lilly? of what race are the drug-running politicians? of what race are the arms-running politicians? who dragged these poor people, kicking and screaming i might add, from their homeenslaved them...brainwashed them through religion and then kicked them out on the street empty handed when they finally had enough of it all and fought back for basic human rights? eh? who's fault is this REALLY? i see i have played your game. i do not blame ALL whites. i blame SOME whites. i would be foolish not to blame some minorities. i repeat: the problem is NOT racial. I do not think vouchers will result in racial segregation as schools will probably have some sort of racial quota requirement. the bush administration is vehemently against quotas. If it should result in segregation, who is to blame? the people who orchestrated it. The schools have been fully integrated for thirty years so why did this not work? because it was designed not to. Whose fault is it? those who orchestrated it. Do black children miraculously learn more/better if in immediate proximity of white ones? racial prejudice is a learned trait. when carried out effectively, desegregation in schools helps prevent it from becoming learned. racism is virtually dead in canada - an idea held in regard only by the uneducated and the perpetually ridiculed, completely powerless christian right. we recently held our first gay marriages here. virtually all support it. i give credit to a superior PUBLIC education system that teaches inclusion, acceptance, equal rights to all what do you think of this? snip there seem to be two sides to the story that you just told: your over-represented white supremecist side and an under-represented black side, most likely with a paranoid "everybody-is-out-to-get-me" view of the world. i therefore do not plan on commenting on this story as i am unaware of the facts, no doubt both sides would be guilty of sensationalism and
Re: [CTRL] Disclaimers and Men who think they have a right to hurt Women
-Caveat Lector- From: "Amelia" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am not saying this is true or not true. Just forwarding. KS The Real Story of Rosa Parks I have been out most of this week so today is the first chance I have had to go over this situation with the alleged failure to use a disclaimer. The above was at the beginning of the post by Kindred Spirit in addition to the "FYI" in the subject matter. I believe this was far more than adequate as a disclaimer. The hell it is. Stating that one doesn't know whether the contents of one's post is true or not does NOT say anything about if one ENDORSES the contents of the post. One can post something that one doesn't know is true or not -- or perhaps even knows is a lie -- and still endorse the opinions expressed in the post. I could forward a post to the list from someone who says they work for the government and have proof that outer space aliens have taken over the highest offices of government. I may know that the person who wrote the original post is lying, and doesn't work for the gov't nor have any 'proof' of outerspace aliens working in the government or at Burger King...but if I BELIEVE that outerspace aliens exist and have infiltrated our gov't, then I may feel the issues raised in the post warrant forwarding it on, even tho I know it is a 'lie'... And if I put a statement at the beginning saying "I don't know if this is true or not", it doesn't mean I disagree with the contents of the post... Your usual attempts to silence anybody not in agreement with you display your little agenda. I wonder if Kris really wants you to decimate his list for him while he is trying to promote the book, etc. Kris and I had a very pleasant phone chat the other day when he was in town, and he didn't express any opinion that he thought anyone was 'decimating' the list... JUNE, I was surprised that you remained silent while Nessie threatened to hurt another poster but after reading your remarks concerning Super Bowl Sunday, apparently you are into this men hurting women thing, too. You are an idiot. Explain to me how perpetuating a LIE regarding the supposed rise in spousal abuse following the Super Bowl furthers the cause of women in general, and abused women in particular? Rather, if you encourage the spreading of the myth of Super Bowl causing increased spousal abuse, you do a great disservice to the true cause of helping women, because you discredit the whole field. As it said in the Super Bowl post, there is no logic in the sentiment that perpetuating the LIE regarding Super Bowl = increased spousal abuse will do ANYTHING to further the cause of helping abused women. I wish you could see some of the women who arrive in the Huntsville shelter, which is totally inadequate. You assume that I: a) have not worked at abuse shelters myself, and b) that I myself have not been a victim of abuse, and c) that I don't currently have a problem with (ongoing) abuse/stalking... This has been a cause on which I have spent a great deal of my time and effort over the last three years and it is very dear to my heart. I also moderate a support list for these women. God help them. If anyone was so totally unqualified to moderate such a list, it is you... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Making a Point Regarding Disclaimers
-Caveat Lector- The following is from the David Icke list... I don't know if what is included in the post is 'true' or not... By making the above statement, have I 'disclaimed' whether I believe or endorse what is in the post? ;-) June - Original Message - YaPool speaks: We announce the arrival of the Big Motherships. A temporal approach of Astral Stations to Earth is taking place. They are part of a multi-sized 30 stations fleet , with an average diameter of 300 Km. They belong to a coordinate program carried by the Galactic Federation of Astral Peoples, aimed to reestablish on the Earth suface the original temporal coordinates, strongly altered by the pernicious infestation of the parasite alien colony that has seized the Earth surface. The powerful decision made by the Confederation Astral Fleet to hover above the Earth skies, will produce a global obscuration phenomenon and the system sudden collapse, not absolutely prepared to face such a drastic mutation. Your reality shall necessarily confront itself with something which is by far the most unimaginable ever faced by your science and by your knowledge in the whole history of your race The environment and human beings metamorphosis, man included, shall exceptionally manifest the essence and original form of everything. No surprise, for your unlivable world, if a radical extinction occurs. Many of you will understand one day not to belong to this world. And they will gain free access to their own original dimension. We do intend, through this communication, to announce that the Great Master, King of the Worlds and Ancient of the Days among the Galactic Federation of Astral Peoples, has definitively proclaimed His radiant Will, so that this nest of parasites be definitively eradicated from Earth, the virtual structure of this world dismembered and dispersed, and that Real Life may return on Earth. YaPool for the people of Agartha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Yet Another Example of Non-Disclaimers In Action...
-Caveat Lector- I don't know if the following is true or not... Does that mean I have 'disclaimed' whether I believe or endorse the following? June - Original Message - Zambians Traumatized By Crash-landing Flying Wizards http://farshores.topcities.com/farshores/pflywiz.htm More than 30 stark naked people suspected to be wizards "crash-landed" on rooftops of houses owned by families, institutions and filling stations in Zambia last year, leaving the population puzzled. The latest of these bizarre incidents occurred on New Year eve when one of such suspected wizard crash-landed in Kasanda, a mining township near the midlands central town of Kabwe, 80 km north of Lusaka, the capital. He sustained fatal body and knee injuries on impact. The suspected wizard, believed to be in his 50's, reportedly fell on the roof of house owned by one Christopher Muwowo at about 01:15 hours Zambian time, causing pandemonium among sleeping family members. Muwowo, a minibus driver and other members of his family were awakened by a loud bang on the roof, which also prompted dogs to start barking. The man's wife, who was the first to get out of the house, was astonished to find a stark naked man kneeling on the doorsteps. She yelled for help. When Muwowo dashed outside and asked the strange visitor what he was looking for at that awkward hour, the naked man simply said "kuku" (meaning Please Help). After that, he could not answer or talk anything until he was taken to Kasanda police station. Curious neighbours, mostly dressed in their night wear who had heard the man's screams, went to Muwowo's house, only to be shocked by the presence of a naked man sprawling on the ground. The naked uninvited guest was taken to Kasanda Police Station. "Cases of witches and wizards crash-landing are rare in Kabwe but very common in Lusaka," said one onlooker. Among the first people to rush to Kasanda Police Station to have a glimpse of the wizard was Kabwe Mayor John Siamuzyulu and Central Province Police Chief Ryan Chitoba. Residents eager to see the wizard besieged the police station. A good Samaritan provided a blanket to cover the hapless man. But since he could not talk, the police had difficulties to establish his name, age, his destination and where he was coming from. The suspected wizard was later taken to the Department of Social Welfare to await being taken to the Traditional Healers and Practitioners Association of Zambia or THAPAZ who had agreed to exorcise him. Unfortunately, the wizard died before he was charged and police have appealed to the Zambian public to come forward and identify the man. THAPAZ president, "Dr" Rodwell Vongo, who heads a group of 40,000 local traditional herbalists, claimed in an interview with PANA that the Kabwe wizard was the only fatal case out of the over a hundred wizards who had so far crash-landed on roof-tops of houses in the country. "They normally crash-land, giving lack of fuel as the cause of crash-landing and ending their missions prematurely," Vongo said. Asked to clarify why wizards must fly naked, Vongo explained that this was the only way they could conceal their identity when flying. "But the most important secret in their view is that the potency of their concoctions would respond to their taking off from the ground when naked than when they are dressed," he claimed THAPAZ's director of Information, "Dr' Alex Kekelwa, said that exhaustion of fuel was not the only reason why wizards crash-land at times. "Sometimes, some of these chaps fly over enemy territory, and they are shot down with traditional ground to air missiles. "I am a traditional herbalist and my mission is to save life through healing and so THAPAZ does not recognise witchcraft. But if a wizard flew over my house, which is my territory, I will certainly respond by protecting my family and myself by shooting down a wizard. I do not want to say anything beyond that", Kekelwa stressed. Kekelwa declined to unravel the motives of flying wizards, saying he was not one of them to know their strategies. "May be some of these guys have concubines they want to visit hundred of kilometres away from where they live while others have sinister motives of going to kill their targeted enemies." . Story originally published in . - January * 2001 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to
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[CTRL] The Bastard President
-Caveat Lector- The Bastard President http://www.zlatkinletter.com/ The Zlatkin Letter 12-17-00 The Bastard President I have been trying to take this all in it lately. It hasn't been easy. I am so damn angry that this election for the presidency has been stolen. I am outraged at how this theft has been sanitized by the media. I am angry but not surprised. In case you didn't know, Al Gore won the popular vote by 568,000 votes. George Bush, Jr. did not win. Illegal acts in the state of Florida, governed by his brother, stole the election. He is the illegitimate President. It was Party Time! A good friend of mine has been working on the renovation of the Capitol Building. While he was scurrying about the premises a few weeks ago, he overheard a number congressional aides talking about what they were going to wear to the "party." My friend had no clue about what they were talking about until he saw the footage of the "party" at the Election canvassing board in Florida. He knew from first hand experience that those were not just some "interested" citizens, he knew that they were paid operatives of the Republican Party. Happy Anniversary The date of the "party" was November 22, 2000. The thirty-seventh anniversary of the assassination of JFK. Lots of activity in both Texas and Florida during that "operation." Yes, that was the first stage of this coup. And if you follow the history of these types, you learn that they like nothing better than to commemorate their "holy" days with some kind of action. Now, what better way for the veterans of the JFK assassination, the Bay of Pigs invasion, the Watergate scandal, Iran-Contra and the Savings and Loan grandest of all larcenies, to "celebrate" their assassination of a president, than to steal an election from another! Which side are you on? This fascistic takeover of the government of the United States (no hyperbole here) actually became the last chance for Democrats. This was it. The Democrats were having the Supreme Court decide that they had lost the presidential election. Yes, it is true that they could have run a much better campaign, but regardless of that fact, they are victims of this venal theft by the Republicans. It was really a time for them to act in such a way to justify the support that they had received from the 50 million plus who voted for Al Gore. It was time for the Democrats to lead the fight. It was time to show some backbone. Regardless of what the ruling elite wants us to buy into, this is not a time for reconciliation. This is not a time for unity. This is not a time to cast oneself as the loyal opposition. This is the time to be an obstructionist. It is time to be a belligerent party that will fight for the rights of working and poor people, especially those who were disenfranchised voters in this election. This is the time for the Democratic Party to stand up and resist the Bush Oligarchy and its attempt to rule. But I am afraid that this last chance for Democrats to show leadership evaporated into thin air when the feckless Al Gore, losing his chance to seize the moment and change history, kow-towed to his beloved ruling class. Gore in his calling for this faux unity that is meant only to mislead and mollify the populace, has betrayed his supporters. He also joins the cabal that wants us to believe that being a good American means accepting, without question, the theft of the presidency. Feckless Al Feckless Al Gore provided no leadership to counter this coup. Al Gore would rather lose the presidency of the United States than raise the issue of race in America. Al Gore could have gone on television and refused to concede. He could have referred to the tens of thousands of African-Americans denied the right to have their votes counted. Al Gore could have said that enough was enough. Gore could have stated that he would not allow the illegitimate seizure of this government. Gore could have said that he would, not only, fight to have every vote counted, but that he would take the leadership in a movement to make sure that each and every American would have the right to vote. Gore could have promised that this right would be protected by the full force of law. But he didn't. A Vote For Gore Was A Vote For Bush Nader was, evidently, correct. At the core, there is no basic difference between Gore and Bush, they both are wedded to fealty when it comes to the ruling elite. Tens of thousands of African-Americans disenfranchised and Gore did nothing. A right-wing coup d'etat was declared legal by the Supreme Court. The United States presidential election has been effectively stolen by right-wing Republicans. The Bush oligarchy regains full power. The cause of corporatism reigns supreme in America. Initially, I had thought that the movement to fight this coup was going to be marginalized. We would be shown that Jesse Jackson, a few unions and the anti-WTO kids would be the entire face of protest. Any chance that
[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Q-Who will MOST BENEFIT By School Vouchers???
-Caveat Lector- Er, inri, my children are Hispanic. They do not utter racial slurs nor do I nor does any member of my family. The blacks where I live often make more money than the whites. There are about five counties in my state with a Black MAJORITY population. All major cities in the south have black mayors and chiefs of police as do many large cities in this country. Your "superior" education has enabled you to utter simplistic solutions to a very complex problem. You do not have a clue about which you are blathering. Whatever the causation of problems in the US educational system, it is much more complex than those to which you attribute it. I assure you if it were as simple and clear-cut as you seem to think, we could solve it. As I said originally, you cannot grasp the situation from there. As a parent, I doubt you would be willing to 'sacrifice' your child in the causes you state. I do not care if I am called a racist any more because of the ignorance of the people who use that as an excuse and refuse to place any of the blame on those causing the element of criminality to flourish in public schools. Amelia P. S. With our inferior educational system I wonder why so many Canadians were enrolled in my older son's University, Georgetown, which is by the way both private and religiously owned. - Original Message - From: "inri" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Q-Who will MOST BENEFIT By School Vouchers??? -Caveat Lector- inri, I don't think from your position in Canada you can possibly have a very clear picture of the school system here. no, i must admit, that i probably don't. but if the average portrayed intelligence by the americans i speak to online is any indication then you guys really, really need to do SOMETHING and QUICK. the problem isn't that you don't know how to read or write or figure out change from a 10. it's that you seem to be, in many cases, stuck in the nineteenth century when it comes to social values, race relations, religion, etc.. collectively, you have an appalling lack of understanding of the history of even your OWN COUNTRY and you seem unable to grasp that you make up a tiny fraction of the world population. [a generalization, i apologize for those of you who are educated.] americans aren't the laughing stock of the internet [another generalization, i apologize again.] without good reason. to me, this high level of ignorance seems to merely show a lack of quality education where it really matters. perhaps this is intentional. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] HE: Huang Took Fifth on Chinese Money
-Caveat Lector- Lawyers Cited Lack of Immunity for Potential Espionage Charges Huang Took Fifth on Chinese Money By Terence P. Jeffrey Human Events Reports of the death of the Justice Departments campaign finance investigation have been greatly exaggerated. In fact, with Bill Clinton gone from the White House, and Janet Renos tenure as attorney general terminated, the most important phase of that investigation may be only just beginning. If so, it is beginning, ironically, in the very same place as the first phase: with John Huang refusing to answer questions. But this time Huangs refusals may portend something far different from what they did last timebecause this time Huang is a witness cooperating with the government. And now his onetime boss, Lippo Group President James Riady, may also become a government witness. And Janet Reno is no longer attorney general of the United States. What would be the purpose of making a deal for Riadys cooperation unless there were parties in this case more important than Riady whom government prosecutors would like to pursue with the evidence and testimony Riady can provide? Who could such parties be? Court documents and a November 6 deposition in which Huang was questioned by Judicial Watch President Larry Klayman offer some clues. Hooking a Bigger Fish? In the deposition, Huang repeatedly invoked his 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination. In most, but not all, instances, the magistrate judge monitoring the deposition cited Huang for contempt. Huang had two rationales for taking the 5th, according to his lawyers. First, a federal appeals court opinion, called the Perkins case, holds that a witness does not have to answer the same question twice in the same legal proceeding. (Klayman has deposed Huang on five occasions, both before and after Huangs plea agreement.) But secondly, Huangs plea agreement did not immunize him against prosecution if he is found to have violated national security or anti-espionage laws. "Anything he says here is not immunized against him for any federal prosecutions for espionage or related crimes," Huangs attorney Ty Cobb told the judge at the deposition. John C. Keeney, another attorney for Huang, said in an interview with Human Events that, as a simple matter of legal prudence, he and Cobb could not allow Huang to answer some deposition questions that related to foreign persons, entities or issues. "If we did not assert the 5th Amendment, it would be legal malpractice," said Keeneywho teaches legal ethics at American University. Keeney further noted that the plea agreement in which the government reserves the right to prosecute Huang for any possible espionage or national security violations also includes language stating that prosecutors are not "currently" aware of evidence that would support such charges. "The United States will not prosecute you for any other violations of federal law based on conduct related to events disclosed by the defendant or otherwise known to the government other than those laws relating to national security or espionage (economic or otherwise), occurring before the date this agreement is signed by you," says the plea agreement. "The United States represents that it is not currently aware of evidence which would support any charges of violations of the relevant national security or espionage statutes. You understand and agree that the United States is free to prosecute you for any unlawful past conduct relating to national security or espionage or for any illegal conduct that occurs after the date this Agreement is signed." The government also indicated that it understood Huang was likely to invoke the 5th Amendment if later asked certain questions in venues where he had not been granted immunity. "[S]ince defendant Huangs plea agreement leaves open the possibility of subsequent prosecutions for violations of espionage and national security statutes, he will obviously retain a 5th Amendment right with respect to questions in this area, even after his guilty plea and sentencing," Assistant U.S. Attorney Daniel J. OBrien, a member of the Justice Departments Campaign Financing Task Force, told Huangs sentencing judge. As of now, Federal District Judge Royce Lamberth, who has authority over the magistrate who monitored the deposition, has not certified the contempt citations against Huang lodged by that magistrate. If he does, Huang will appeal to the Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. In one venue or the other, Huangs attorneys are confident that a proper reading of his 5th Amendment rights will prevail over the contempt citations. Nonetheless, the governments reservation of the right to prosecute Huang for espionage or national security violations, and Huangs invocation of the 5th Amendment in the first place, demonstrate that the campaign finance investigation still must answer the biggest questions it has faced since the outset: What was
[CTRL] NEWSMAX: Indo Power Deals Blows Edison Financial Fuse
-Caveat Lector- http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/1/26/192056.shtml Power Corrupts Edison Indonesian power deal blows financial fuse by Charles R. Smith "SOFTWAR" The residents of California are suffering from a blackout. Not one of electric power but of the news. The mainstream media, including Time/CNN, continue to maintain the recent spate of financial short-circuits inside California's energy grid are all due to state economic and environmental regulations. Nothing could be further from the truth. In 1994, Edison Mission Energy landed a trade trip with Ron Brown to Indonesia. As a result of that trip, Edison also ended up with a contract to build the Paiton I coal fired power plant. Paiton I was billed as the first "private" electric plant in Indonesia. In 1994, "private" ownership in Indonesia equated into owned and operated by the Suharto "First Family." The partners in the Paiton I consortium include Edison Mission Energy, Mitsui Co., Ltd. of Japan, General Electric Capital Corporation, and P.T. Batu Hitam Perkasa. Just by co-incidence, of course, PT Batu was owned by Indonesian dictator Suharto's youngest daughter, Titek Prabowo and her brother-in-law, Hashim Djojohadikusumo. According to the Commerce Dept., ".75%" of the Paiton project was reserved for Suharto's daughter Prabowo, or an instant $15 million in cash. Her kickback, along with a cut for "brother-in-law" Hashim and various other Suharto relatives, was to be provided up front, in cash, in the form of a $50 million loan. The $50 million loan was to be paid back by the profits or dividends from the power plant. The U.S. Commerce Department was not the only agency to take notice of Edison's special contract with Suharto's daughter. In 1994, agents from the Central Intelligence Agency met with China-Gate figure John Huang on the Paiton Power Plant. The 1994 meeting between the intelligence agency and Huang included detailed information about the $2.6 billion Paiton electric power plant for Indonesia. According to the documents, CIA agents Bob Beamer, Chris Crosby, Lia Fidas and Nancy Goldcamp attended an August 1994 "TPCC" or "Trade Policy Coordinating Committee" meeting with John Huang. The subject of the CIA meeting was U.S. government financed trade deals that contained "first family involvement" or illegal payments made to relatives of then Indonesian dictator Suharto. A 1994 Commerce Department report found in Huang's files noted that the Indonesian "Paiton" power plant had encountered difficulties with financing because the "Asian Development Bank (ADB)" knew it contained money for a Suharto family member. "ADB had raised concern about first family involvement during its consideration of the $50 million financial portion," states the Paiton Project document found in Huang's files. "Ambassador Barry stated that the project is facing two problems (i) the ADB financing may cave in and (ii) EXIM financing. Regarding ADB, technical questions have been satisfied, but ADB is skiddish about involvement of Indonesia's first family (a minority shareholder is married to Pres. Suharto's daughter)." In addition, 1994 documents provided by the Offshore Private Investment Corporation (OPIC) noted that Suharto's daughter Prabowo and her brother-in-law, Hashim Djojohadikusumo, were given a total "2.5%" ownership in the U.S. sponsored power project, through their local company BHP. "ADB is still considering this, b/c of very minimal involvement of Indo ruling family in the Mission project... ADB's delay revolves around concern for projects in Indonesia involving the first family. .75% ownership of the Mission project by daughter of Indo pres." Directly after meeting with the CIA on the known Suharto "first family" involvement inside the Edison Paiton power project, Huang proceeded to place a three hour call to his former employer, the Lippo Group. In 1999, John Huang pled guilty to Federal charges of making illegal political contributions to the Clinton/Gore campaign. Huang took the Fifth Amendment more than two thousand times when asked by Judicial Watch if he had ties to Chinese intelligence. The documents show that Edison officials were aware of the $50 million destine for Suharto's daughter. Newly released documents also show that Edison Chairman John Bryson actually pressed the Secretary Ron Brown to support the $50 no-pay back loan. Federal Election Commission records show that Mission Energy CEO John Bryson donated money to the Clinton/Gore campaign and contributed money to President Clinton's legal defense fund. In 1994, Bryson also wrote a personal letter to Brown, pressing for quick approval of the $50 million U.S. government backed loan. Dear Ron," wrote John Bryson, then Chairman of Southern California Edison. "I am writing to request your support of the application of the Paiton Private Power Project in Indonesia for funding by the Asian Development Bank (ADB)." "We have applied to the
[CTRL] NEWS from the indymedia newswire
-Caveat Lector- --- Story from the indymedia newswire Checkout independent media coverage of politics, protest, and life at: http://www.indymedia.org This message was sent to you by: Pip Squeak Comments: Fun galore! --- Article by: Mike Whybark Tuesday 23 Jan 2001 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Summary:House Bill on flor currently reverses three anti-assassination executive orders - theoretically opening you and I, brothers and sisters, to legally sanctioned govermental murder without trial Article: this was forwarded to me by a good friend - everything I reviewed checked out --- This has not hit the papers. And yes, this is completely genuine. The Bush crowd has wasted no time. The bill reproduced below would eliminate all prohibitions on assassination, which are codified into law only through the Executive Order clauses that Rep. Barr seeks to nullify in Sec. 3 below. I\'ve appended the relevant clauses for your reference. It was introduced Jan. 3, along with over 120 other bills. It was the same day they elected the new speaker. The chairman of the committee this bill was forwarded to is Henry Hyde, an old friend of (sometimes illegal) spook ops. Obviously, that does not bode well. This bill specifically \"targets\" terrorists (i.e. Osama bin Laden). However, I hasten to remind everyone that during the Reagan Administration, the official US list of \"terrorist groups\" included such perfectly legal and 100% non-violent domestic activist groups as CISPES and the Progressive Student Network. (If memory serves me, even SANE/Freeze was on that list, but I\'m not positive.) In the post-WTO-protest world, esp. with an Atty. Gen. like Ashcroft (or back-up nominee Slade Gorton), just imagine how many of us or our friends could wind up on such a list, and thus as potential targets for executive action. Source: http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/aces/aaces002.html --- [DOCID: f:h19ih.txt] 107th CONGRESS 1st Session H. R. 19 To nullify the effect of certain provisions of various Executive orders. ___ IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES January 3, 2001 Mr. Barr of Georgia introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on International Relations ___ A BILL To nullify the effect of certain provisions of various Executive orders. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. This Act may be cited as the ``Terrorist Elimination Act of 2001\'\'. SEC. 2. FINDINGS. Congress finds that-- (1) past Presidents have issued Executive orders which severely limit the use of the military when dealing with potential threats against the United States of America; (2) these Executive orders limit the swift, sure, and precise action needed by the United States to protect our national security; (3) present strategy allows the military forces to bomb large targets hoping to eliminate a terrorist leader, but prevents our country from designing a limited action which would specifically accomplish that purpose; (4) on several occasions the military has been ordered to use a military strike hoping, in most cases unsuccessfully, to remove a terrorist leader who has committed crimes against the United State; (5) as the threat from terrorism grows, America must continue to investigate effective ways to combat the menace posed by those who would murder American citizens simply to make a political point; and (6) actions by the United States Government to remove such persons is a remedy which should be used sparingly and considered only after all other reasonable options have failed or are not available; however, this is an option our country must maintain for cases in which international threats cannot be eliminated by other means. SEC. 3. NULLIFICATION OF EFFECT OF CERTAIN PROVISIONS OF VARIOUS EXECUTIVE ORDERS. The following provisions of Executive orders shall have no further force or effect: (1) Section 5(g) of Executive Order 11905. (2) Section 2-305 of Executive Order 12036. (3) Section 2.11 of Executive Order 12333. all [end] +
[CTRL] Fw: [CTRL] Making a Point Regarding Disclaimers
-Caveat Lector- Stating that they do not know if a post is true or not cannot be labeled as an endorsement and that is all that is needed. People do not have to state whether or not they endorse a post. It is sufficient that a lack of endorsement is stated. Why do you so desperately need to know if people endorse a post? You DO plan to dispute the article and not the person, so you do not need to know what the person thinks unless you are trying to start a fight, as usual. Endorsement is an opinion and many times people do not have an opinion about daily events. Most read and wait to see what develops and use some higher level of reasoning than you are suggesting. There are far too many posts made for people to have to so lightly form "opinions" about each one which is what you seem to require. Only a fool would endorse every newsarticle that they run across. My opinion is you want people to "endorse" every article so that you will be able to continue to attack the poster rather than the post.And this is the ONLY reason a person would so desperately want to know how people feel or believe about a particular posts. You are very transparent. Your delight at attacking other posters is showing. Why can't you just attack with "This article" rather than "You"? Just not as much fun for vicious people like you, that's why. The very fact that you DEMAND to know if a person endorses a post is proof in and of itself what your little plans are--attacking that person based on something they might believe. You are not content to disagree with a post or an article, you want a fight with another poster. That is totally obvious from what you say and if you can't see it, you are the only one. You know nothing about me nor my qualifications, either, nor whether or not I would be useful in the capacities discussed. The people at this agency are delighted and have given me an appreciation luncheon so your opinion is just that and worthless to me. I care not what a person desperately trying to preserve their right to bash other posters thinks. Amelia - Original Message - From: "Ynr Chyldz Wyld" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 9:07 PM Subject: [CTRL] Making a Point Regarding Disclaimers -Caveat Lector- The following is from the David Icke list... I don't know if what is included in the post is 'true' or not... By making the above statement, have I 'disclaimed' whether I believe or endorse what is in the post? ;-) June - Original Message - YaPool speaks: We announce the arrival of the Big Motherships. A temporal approach of Astral Stations to Earth is taking place. They are part of a multi-sized 30 stations fleet , with an average diameter of 300 Km. They belong to a coordinate program carried by the Galactic Federation of Astral Peoples, aimed to reestablish on the Earth suface the original temporal coordinates, strongly altered by the pernicious infestation of the parasite alien colony that has seized the Earth surface. The powerful decision made by the Confederation Astral Fleet to hover above the Earth skies, will produce a global obscuration phenomenon and the system sudden collapse, not absolutely prepared to face such a drastic mutation. Your reality shall necessarily confront itself with something which is by far the most unimaginable ever faced by your science and by your knowledge in the whole history of your race A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Govt. To Decide Where You Can Sleep ??!?
-Caveat Lector- The totalitarian trend continues in the "land of the free" ! RICHMOND, Va. (January 27, 2001 9:44 p.m. EST http://www.nandotimes.com) - A proposed law that would let Fairfax County prohibit its residents from sleeping in rooms other than a bedroom has won approval in the state Senate. The legislation passed Friday by a vote of 20 to 19, but the bill's detractors demanded it be reconsidered Monday. Gerald E. Connolly, a county Board of Supervisors member, said the legislation made him uncomfortable. "I have a lot of problems with government telling people where they can or cannot sleep," Connolly said. "As far as I know, this bill was not introduced at the behest of Fairfax County." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Videotape implicating Peru's ex-spy chief disappears
-Caveat Lector- Videotape implicating Peru's ex-spy chief disappears By CRAIG MAURO, Associated Press LIMA, Peru (January 27, 2001 12:06 a.m. EST http://www.nandotimes.com) - A compromising videotape secretly made by Peru's fugitive ex-spy chief has disappeared from the offices of prosecutors probing alleged wrongdoing linked to Vladimiro Montesinos, the state attorney said Friday. Jose Ugaz said the video showed judges in secretly recorded meetings with the former spymaster -- possibly implicating them in illicit acts. "This is a very grave act and it warrants a severe investigation," Ugaz told reporters. The news capped a week in which videos secretly filmed by Montesinos have led to criminal probes against the former head of Peru's election board, three Supreme Court judges, a mayor, a former minister and a lawmaker who helped lead a congressional investigation of the former intelligence chief and his alleged accomplices. Authorities are combing through some 700 tapes confiscated from the apartment of Montesinos, who for a decade was former President Alberto Fujimori's top adviser. Peruvians weary of scandal have dubbed them "Vladi-videos." Judge Saul Pena, who is overseeing the Montesinos case in the judiciary, said 70 of the 700 tapes have been reviewed, and that at least 20 contain incriminating evidence against politicians, judges, businessmen, bankers, police and military officers. Montesinos, a once-powerful figure, fled the country last fall after a video showed him apparently bribing a congressman. Ensuing scandals surrounding Montesinos led Fujimori to flee in November. The tapes were presumably recorded to hold over the heads of Montesinos' rivals and accomplices. Montesinos is believed to have operated a criminal empire involving arms deals, drug trafficking and graft that permeated the Congress, judiciary, the media and the armed forces. Earlier Friday, the videos led to the arrest of Tomas Gonzales, a former minister in Fujimori's cabinet, and Luis Bedoya, the current mayor of Miraflores, an upscale Lima district. Bedoya admitted Friday to accepting a "donation" from Montesinos for his 1999 mayoral campaign but said it was an "insignificant" amount. Bedoya beat a politician considered hostile to Fujimori in the election. Perhaps the most numbing blow for Peruvians came Tuesday when Congressman Ernesto Gamarra was shown in a video apparently taking a bribe from a Montesinos front man. Gamarra was vice president of a congressional commission investigating the origins of $70 million in frozen bank accounts linked to Montesinos. Copyright © 2001 Nando Media Do you have some feedback for the Nando Times staff? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Govt. To Decide Where You Can Sleep ??!?
-Caveat Lector- --- "Martin F. Abernathy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The totalitarian trend continues in the "land of the free" ! A proposed law that would let Fairfax County prohibit its residents from sleeping in rooms other than a bedroom has won approval in the state Senate." ___ If this becomes law, and it gets enforced, a lot of people will be arrested at work, at school and at church. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Disclaimers and Men who think they have a right to hurt Women
-Caveat Lector- Oh, yes,you did and I have the post. As for your testosterone-crazed existence, who cares! But be that as it may, the fact remains that a Native American (not correct terminology--can't recall) came on this list and her name was ridiculed, she was sent to ebay for a new scalp or skin or whatever and she was threatened to be hurt over the writings of somebody else. Most interesting is who did these contemptible things? Those mean old racist conservative/libertarian/republicans? NN! It was the far left-wingers showing their true colors once more for our reading pleasure. BTW, I';; be happy to leave when and if Kris invites me to do so. Until then, you have absolutely no right to keep telling people to get out. You seem to forget often that 'tis not your list. Amelia - Original Message - From: "Nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Disclaimers and Men who think they have a right to "hurt" Women -Caveat Lector- NESSIE, as for your threats to "hurt" the poster, I did no such thing. I merely defined the conditions under which I would hurt the poster (or anybody else, for that matter). I did this by once again restating the by now well known fact that I require people in my physical presence to treat me and my friends with respect. That's how I live my life. If you don't like it, too bad. If you dont like us, keep it to yourself and go somewhere else. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [OT] NM: Air Force One Loot Turns Up on E-Bay
-Caveat Lector- Newsmax-Inside Cover Saturday Jan. 27, 2001; 2:37 p.m. EST Air Force One Loot Turns Up on E-Bay Rare presidential souvenirs similar to the ones taken from Air Force One when Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton used the aircraft for their final trip home to New York have popped up on the internet auction site E-Bay.com, United Press International reported Saturday. Giving the first family the benefit of the doubt, UPI suggested the missing items had been taken by "Clinton staffers" and noted, "there is no indication that some of the (auction) items were among items taken from the plane." But dealers in collectables told the wire service that it was unusual for such a large number of presidential souvenirs to become available so soon after the transfer of power. "These are very hard-to-get items. They are not mass marketed and are only made for the White House, so we don't see a lot of them," one trader said. The items up for sale included a White House guest bathrobe, current bid $305; a leather air travel bag, with Air Force One logo ($360) and an Air Force One humidor - item # 544207091 -- emblazoned with the president's seal, for more than $2,000 - 48 cigars included. The presidential souvenirs were put on sale between Jan. 17 and Jan. 21. It's unclear just who took the missing Air Force One collectables, but Mrs. Clinton was accused this past week of soliciting expensive gifts prior to her White House departure to help furnish her New York and Washington homes. Add to that her reputation for thriftiness, which apparently knows no bounds. The Clintons' IRS returns showed she took tax deductions during the 1980's for donating her husband's used underwear to charity. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Govt. To Decide Where You Can Sleep ??!?
-Caveat Lector- Remember the article I posted this week about the BATF being upset to find the woman was not sleeping in bed with the man they shot and killed, firing through the walls? Interesting they want everybody in a predictable [;ace. Amelia - Original Message - From: "John Cone" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Govt. To Decide Where You Can Sleep ??!? -Caveat Lector- --- "Martin F. Abernathy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The totalitarian trend continues in the "land of the free" ! A proposed law that would let Fairfax County prohibit its residents from sleeping in rooms other than a bedroom has won approval in the state Senate." ___ If this becomes law, and it gets enforced, a lot of people will be arrested at work, at school and at church. __ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] PBP: Disputed ballots held potential gains for Gore
-Caveat Lector- [What's this about GWB's "537-vote statewide margin of victory?" That's the lowest of the several numbers certified at various times in the saga, and that includes questionable (and predominately Gore) votes from the manual counts that the SCOFLA commanded and SCOTUS rejected.] http://www.gopbi.com/partners/pbpost/epaper/editions/today/news_3.html Disputed ballots held potential gains for Gore By Joel Engelhardt, Scott McCabe and Christine Stapleton Palm Beach Post Staff Writers Saturday, January 27, 2001 Palm Beach Post ballot review: How we did it WEST PALM BEACH -- If Democrats had gotten their way and dimpled ballots in Palm Beach County had been counted as votes, Al Gore would have picked up 682 votes, which is more than President George W. Bush's 537-vote statewide margin of victory, according toThe Palm Beach Post's examination of disputed ballots. Additionally, the analysis shows that more than two-thirds of the disputed ballots were cast on Data Punch voting machines even though those machines accounted for less than one-third of the 462,644 ballots cast in the county. Democrats said the numbers justify their belief that Al Gore should have won Florida. Republicans scoff, saying the U.S. Supreme Court made it clear that the disputed, dimpled ballots should not count. Of the 14,500 ballots that the Palm Beach County Canvassing Board examined in November, the 4,513 under-votes reviewed this month by The Post are the ones where the board decided no vote had been cast but Democratic or GOP observers disagreed. The board set those ballots aside for possible court review, but no court did, from the circuit level in Tallahassee to the U.S. Supreme Court in Washington. Of the disputed ballots, 2,500 had marks -- some faint, some heavy, some with holes but most without -- for Gore. Those with similar marks for Bush numbered 1,818. That 682-vote gain for Gore would have been in addition to his 174-vote gain found during Palm Beach County's 10-day hand recount. Those results, submitted after the 5 p.m. Nov. 26 deadline, were not accepted by Florida's secretary of state in the certified 537-vote Bush victory. The Post also found that the precincts with the most disputed under-votes were not those with a majority of black or elderly voters. They were not particularly Democrat or Republican. But they were overwhelmingly Data Punch. Of the disputed under-votes cast at polling places (as opposed to those cast by absentee voters), 67.8 percent were cast on the Data Punch machines, which are newer and less costly than the county's other type of punch-card voting machine, the Votomatic. While Republicans argued that many voters may have touched the ballot with the stylus, leaving a dimple, before deciding not to vote for president, mechanical engineering tests commissioned by The Post this month found that it's slightly harder to punch out a chad in a Data Punch machine. Supervisor of Elections Theresa LePore, a canvassing board member, said she has not yet had time to study the error-rate in Data Punch machines. However, she said, "There appears to be some kind of a problem with ballots in those machines." She said she would not use Data Punch machines in the March 13 municipal elections, and unless the ballot is crowded, voters would not be asked to punch the first column, in which the presidential votes were cast. She said those decisions were not colored by the machine's record during the presidential election. County Court Judge Charles Burton, another canvassing board member, said he saw more dimples in the first column than elsewhere on the ballot among the 14,500 ballots he reviewed. Democrats argued in court that the mechanics of the machine, combined with the heavy use of the first column, made it harder to punch out a chad there. The Post's tests of machines, conducted by a Florida Atlantic University mechanical engineering professor, found chads dislodge more easily from the center of the ballot than they do along the top, bottom and sides. Nearly 44 percent of the registered voters in the Data Punch precincts that produced disputed ballots are Democrats and about 36 percent are Republican. Most are white -- 90.2 percent. And less than half -- 40.2 percent -- are older than 64. While about half of the under-votes and over-votes cast in Palm Beach County came from precincts that are majority elderly or black, only two of the 10 precincts with the most disputed ballots are majority elderly and none is majority black. LePore questioned the validity of the ballot review, for which she is charging $125 an hour. Aside from The Post, reviews are being conducted by The Miami Herald, the Republican Party of Florida and Judicial Watch, a conservative governmental watchdog group. She said she doubted any true count can be accomplished without examining all ballots cast on Election Day "because you don't know what the machine counted for those." LePore directed the hand
[CTRL] IHT: The Third Way Globalist in Davos don't like Bush fils, or the horse he rode in on.
-Caveat Lector- Senior Economists Cast Doubt on U.S. Tax Plan By Tom Buerkle International Herald Tribune Friday, January 26, 2001 DAVOS, Switzerland Senior international economists remained distinctly skeptical about the merits of the tax cuts proposed by President George W. Bush despite the apparent conversion of the Federal Reserve Board chairman, Alan Greenspan, to the cause of tax reduction on Thursday. The economists, who were participating in the World Economic Forum here, were unanimous in rejecting the idea that tax cuts are an effective antidote to the slowdown gripping the U.S. economy. Given the time needed to win political support for tax cuts, any reduction would likely take effect when the economy was already in recovery mode, they said. "I think it requires an unwarranted leap of faith to think you can time a tax cut well enough" to avert a recession, said Alan Blinder, an economics professor at Princeton University and former Fed vice chairman. Jacob Frenkel, chairman of the sovereign advisory group at Merrill Lynch Co. and former head of Israel's central bank, said: "By its nature, you will end up fighting the previous war. We have learned too many times that the fine-tuning does not work in this way." The economists made it clear that their opposition was focused specifically on the $1.6 trillion tax cut proposed by Mr. Bush during the campaign, not on tax cuts per se. "I think they're too much," Mr. Blinder said. Mr. Greenspan's endorsement of tax cuts in Congressional testimony Thursday went much further than his qualified expressions of support in the past, but he refrained from commenting directly on the Bush package. He also appeared to straddle the question of timing. He noted that past attempts to cut taxes "have proved difficult to implement" in the time frame of recessions, but he added, "should current economic weakness spread beyond what now appears likely, having a tax cut in place may, in fact, do noticeable good." Mr. Frenkel said he had spoken privately with Mr. Greenspan about tax cuts and was in full agreement with him. Tax cuts are good for bolstering long-term supply incentives in the economy, not for moderating the business cycle, he said. "Have a tax structure that's good for the winter and the summer, not a Mickey Mouse plan to deal with the ups and downs of the economy," Mr. Frenkel said. Juergen von Hagen, professor at the Center for European Integration Studies at the University of Bonn, expressed concern that tax cuts could worsen the U.S. current account deficit by stimulating more consumption that increases imports. Others worried that fresh fiscal stimulus could tie the hands of Mr. Greenspan and limit the potential for interest-rate reductions. That concern was evident in the U.S. bond market on Thursday as prices fell, and yields rose, as some participants downgraded their expectations for rate reductions. "The real problem with these tax cuts is they disturb monetary policy," said Kenneth Courtis, a senior economist at Goldman Sachs Co. Mr. Greenspan may have few such fears because he is aware of the long and uncertain timetable that will confront any tax plan that Mr. Bush sends to Congress. In this view, the chairman was demonstrating political astuteness by supporting tax cuts in principle but giving himself plenty of room to argue about the details later on. As Mr. Blinder put it, "no Fed chairman wants to pick a fight with a new president right off the bat." = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:
[CTRL] Rebel Land Deal Angers Colombians
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{{ Now some people would demand to know whether or not I
"endorse" this post when I have absolutely no opinion and
consider it merely a link in forming one. I am not familiar
with the author but AP has an OK reputation
so--hhuumm--endorse or not? I suppose the land deal would
anger SOME but it just says "residents" so I do not know if
this is a majority or not. But I must state whether or not
I personally endorse it so that I can be personally attacked
rather than the article itself in case some on this list
disagree. Such a dilemma. AKE}}
Rebel Land Deal Angers Colombians
by JUAN PABLO TORO
Associated Press Writer
BOGOTA, Colombia (AP) -- With the government nearing a deal
to give rebels control over a Delaware-sized territory, the
area's residents expressed anger Saturday that plans were
going ahead despite their objections.
Delegates from the government and the leftist guerrilla
group, National Liberation Army, or ELN, presented residents
in Bolivar State on Friday with the first concrete details
of the demilitarized zone where peace talks would be held.
Rebel control over the 1,860-square-mile territory would
last for nine months and it would be patrolled by locally
appointed civic police and an international monitoring
committee of 150 people to ensure that the rights of
residents living in the area are protected, according to the
84-point plan, published Saturday in El Tiempo newspaper.
Hundreds of police and soldiers currently in the area would
have to leave the demilitarized zone, which would encompass
the towns of Cantagallo and San Pablo, 185 miles north of
the capital Bogota, according to the document.
Commanders of the 5,000-strong ELN have vowed to honor
residents' rights and to refrain from using their stronghold
to harbor kidnap victims for ransom -- a major source of
their financing.
But residents -- fearing the kind of heavy-fisted rule
reported inside a larger demilitarized zone controlled by
another rebel army -- have threatened protests and
roadblocks if the government approves the plan. They said
the government should have consulted with them while
drafting the document.
''How is it possible to discuss the rules without talking
with the communities?'' said Lincoln Castilla, a member of
an organization opposed to the zone, during an interview
with local Radionet radio station on Saturday.
Preparations to cede territory to the ELN began early last
year but were shelved after residents mounted roadblocks and
demonstrations. The plan was rekindled when the ELN last
December released 42 police and soldiers it had captured
during fighting, a signal for many that the rebels wanted
peace after more than three decades of fighting.
Since then, the government has been meeting with residents
and rebel commanders to formalize the deal.
The government appeared to be closing in on an agreement
with the ELN as the deadline looms on the Switzerland-size
territory ceded two years ago to the Revolutionary Armed
Forces of Colombia, or FARC.
The 15,000-strong FARC froze peace negotiations with the
government in November. The two sides were meeting inside
FARC-controlled territory Saturday and Colombian President
Andres Pastrana must decide by next Wednesday if he'll
continue to allow rebels to reside there. Hundreds of
soldiers have been airlifted to the region to uproot the
guerrillas if Pastrana decides to end the concession.
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[CTRL] Loon: Bush Body Count
-Caveat Lector- http://www.bk2k.com/bushbodycount/home.html If the Dead Could Speak This is a list of bodies, a roster of the dead, who might have been called Witnesses had they not met their untimely deaths. All these people were associated with the name of Bush, and coincidence aside, did not live to tell the tale. Some of the names on this list will give you pause. Some are rumor. Some you may find incredible, and some ridiculous. Do your own research. You will draw your own conclusions. I make no assertion but this: If the dead could speak, perhaps the loudest and most tragic voice would be that of Democracy, who died December 12, 2000, when the Supreme Court of the United States stopped a legally mandated count of ballots, votes that had never been counted, effectively appointing Bush to the White House, even as it became ever more clear that he was not the true winner. Subsequent media recounts have shown that Al Gore was indeed the winner of the popular vote of Florida and hence the Presidency of the United States, but it appears as though the fix was in. Ask yourself, can they get away with it? The answer - only if you let them. Spread the word: George W. Bush is not our President. http://www.bk2k.com/bushbodycount/bodies.html Paul Wilcher His partially decomposed body was found in his home, still seated on the toilet. According to the Washington Times, "...he was investigating the theory of an 'October Surprise' conspiracy during the 1980 federal election campaign. He had been interviewing an inmate who claimed to have piloted George Bush to Paris so he could secretly seek to delay the release of 52 American hostages in Iran." Sid Adger Mr. Adger, a Houston oil supply company executive and Bush family friend, died in 1996 of unknown causes. Adger was the mysterious businessman who approached General James Rose and asked him to help George W. Bush avoid Vietnam by recommending him for a pilot position with the National Guard. General James Rose General Rose recommended George W. Bush for a pilot position with the Texas National Guard. He died of unknown causes in 1993. He was immediately buried and no autopsy was performed. Orlando Letelier He was torn to bits by a car bomb on the streets of Washington DC just before he was to testify against the Chilean dictator Pinochet. After the bombing, CIA Director George H. W. Bush told the FBI that there had been no Chilean involvement whatsoever. In 1991 the post-Pinochet Chilean Supreme Court asked George H. W. Bush if he would submit to questioning. BUSH REFUSED. Ronni Moffit She was Letelier's assistant. She and her husband were riding in the car with Letelier when the bomb exploded. Mr. Moffit survived. Ronni didn't. Amiram Nir He was a former Israeli agent who was in Jerusalem with George Bush during Iran Contra. He went under the assumed name of Pat Weber. Nir was scheduled to testify to the Senate subcommittee and it was feared he would reveal the truth. He perished when his aircraft was shot down with missiles from the helicopter of a man called Gene Tatum, 25-year CIA deep cover agent. Senator John Tower He was appointed by the Reagan/Bush Administration to chair the bipartisan committee to investigate the Iran/Contra scandals. He directed the Tower Report and had all the Iran Contra documents that told the real story. He was killed in an airplane crash later in Georgia in 1991. Also killed was his daughter, Marian. Mario Ruiz Massieu An apparent suicide, Massieu was facing charges that he laundered money for the cocaine cartels. A Houston, Texas jury had found that $8 million in his bank accounts was paid to him by cocaine cartels. Steve Kangas His web site, Liberalism Resurgent, was meticulously researched and presented such a problem to the "real boss" of George Bush, Richard Scaife, that he hired a private detective to look into Kangas' past. Steve Kangas was found in a 39th-floor bathroom outside of Scaife's offices at One Oxford Centre, in Pittsburgh, an apparent suicide. Mr. Kangas, a very prolific writer, left no note. He had brought a fully-packed suitcase of clothes with him to Pittsburgh. He bought a burglar alarm shortly before he left for Pittsburgh. Why did he need a burglar alarm if he was going to commit suicide? An avowed advocate of gun control, he nevertheless bought a gun. What was he afraid of? Why did he go to Pittsburgh? After his death, his computer was sold for $150 and its hard drive wiped clean. Everything in his apartment was thrown away. Mohammed Zia al-huk Dictator of Pakistan, and knew all about Iran/Contra, the training, funding, and arming of narco-terrorists like Osama bin Laden. In August 1988, the same day George Bush got the Republican nomination, his plane crashed into the ground with all engines running. The Pakistanis kept the bodies around (in violation of Islamic custom) for weeks, awaiting US experts. They showed up three weeks later and never checked the bodies.
[CTRL] Fw: [CTRL] IHT: The Third Way Globalist in Davos don't like Bush fils, or the horse he rode in on.
-Caveat Lector- These International Economists are totally ignoring the fact that this is only one minor reason for the tax cut, too small to correct a recession any way. The domestic reasons are of far greater weight in this decision. While it is hoped it will positively effect the economy as a whole, it was a campaign promise made before the economy took its down turn. Everybody knows more and better about America's business than Americans! Well, they enjoy thinking they do any way. Some of these people need to mind their own damn business. AKE - Original Message - From: "MICHAEL SPITZER" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 12:02 AM Subject: [CTRL] IHT: The Third Way Globalist in Davos don't like Bush fils, or the horse he rode in on. -Caveat Lector- Senior Economists Cast Doubt on U.S. Tax Plan By Tom Buerkle International Herald Tribune Friday, January 26, 2001 DAVOS, Switzerland Senior international economists remained distinctly skeptical about the merits of the tax cuts proposed by President George W. Bush despite the apparent conversion of the Federal Reserve Board chairman, Alan Greenspan, to the cause of tax reduction on Thursday. The economists, who were participating in the World Economic Forum here, were unanimous in rejecting the idea that tax cuts are an effective antidote to the slowdown gripping the U.S. economy. Given the time needed to win political support for tax cuts, any reduction would likely take effect when the economy was already in recovery mode, they said. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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[CTRL] LAT: DERSHOWITZ: Bush Starts Off by Defying the Constitution
-Caveat Lector- http://www.latimes.com/news/comment/20010124/t06795.html Bush Starts Off by Defying the Constitution By ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ The very first act of the new Bush administration was to have a Protestant Evangelist minister officially dedicate the inauguration to Jesus Christ, who he declared to be "our savior." Invoking "the Father, the Son, the Lord Jesus Christ" and "the Holy Spirit," Billy Graham's son, the man selected by President George W. Bush to bless his presidency, excluded the tens of millions of Americans who are Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Shintoists, Unitarians, agnostics and atheists from his blessing by his particularistic and parochial language. The plain message conveyed by the new administration is that George W. Bush's America is a Christian nation, and that non-Christians are welcome into the tent so long as they agree to accept their status as a tolerated minority rather than as fully equal citizens. In effect, Bush is saying: "This is our home, and in our home we pray to Jesus as our savior. If you want to be a guest in our home, you must accept the way we pray." But the United States is neither a Christian nation nor the exclusive home of any particular religious group. Non-Christians are not guests. We are as much hosts as any Mayflower-descendant Protestant. It is our home as well as theirs. And in a home with so many owners, there can be no official sectarian prayer. That is what the 1st Amendment is all about, and the first act by the new administration was in defiance of our Constitution. This was surely not the first time in our long history that Jesus has been invoked at an official governmental assembly. But we are a different and more religiously diverse nation than we were in years past. There are now many more Muslims, Jews, Buddhists and others who do not accept Jesus as their savior. It is permissible in the U.S. to reject any particular theology. Indeed, that is part of our glorious diversity. What is not acceptable is for a presidential inauguration to exclude millions of citizens from its opening ceremony by dedicating it to a particular religious "savior." Our first president, George Washington, wrote to the tiny Jewish community in Rhode Island that in this new nation, we will no longer speak of mere "toleration," because toleration implies that minorities enjoy their inherent rights "by the indulgence" of the majority. President Bush should read that letter and show it to the Rev. Franklin Graham, who told the media on the day before the inauguration that his prayer "will be for unity"; instead, it was for the Trinity. Uniting for Jesus may be Graham's definition of unity, but it is as un-American as if a rabbi giving the official prayer had prayed for the arrival of the "true Messiah," thus insulting the millions of Christians who believe Jesus is the true Messiah. Inaugurations are not the appropriate setting for theological proclamations of who is, and who is not, the true Messiah. Perhaps at Bob Jones University it is appropriate for an honorary degree recipient to declare Jesus to be the only king of the United States, but the steps of the Capitol should not be confused with the lectern of a denominational church. The inauguration ended with another Protestant minister inviting all who agree that Jesus is "the Christ" to say, "Amen" (ironically, a word that originated in Jewish prayer or, alternatively, originally a Jewish acronym for "God, the King, forever.") Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-Conn.), along with many others who do not believe that Jesus is the Messiah, was put in the position of either denying his own faith or remaining silent while others around him all said, "Amen." This is precisely the position in which young public school students are placed when "voluntary" prayer is conducted at school events. If they join in prayer that is inconsistent with their religious beliefs, they have been coerced into violating their conscience. If they leave or refuse to join, they stand out as different among their peers. No student should be put in that position by their public schools at an assembly, just as no public official should be placed in that situation by their government at an inauguration. If George W. Bush wants all Americans to accept him as their president, he made an inauspicious beginning by sandwiching his unity speech between two divisive, sectarian and inappropriate prayers. - - - Alan M. Dershowitz Is a Professor at Harvard Law School = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL
[CTRL] Liberals Use Unfair Tactics With Ashcroft
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{{More on the intolerance of left-wingers--believe as I
believe or get out. I pretty much endorse most of this
article as most of the religious people I know are very
honest and trustworthy and do not try to force their beliefs
on others as fundamentalist liberals do.AKE}
01/23/2001 - Tuesday - Page A 34
Liberals Use Unfair Tactics With
Ashcroft
Matthew Carolan and Raymond J. Keating. Matthew Carolan is
online editor for Inter@ctive Week. Raymond J. Keating is
co-author of "U.S. by the Numbers: Figuring What's Left,
Right, and Wrong with America State by State."
SOME LIBERALS like to say that America's diversity is its
strength. We agree.
Unfortunately, the left's definition of diversity too often
is as narrow as its view of bipartisanship. That is, if you
agree with them, then you embrace bipartisanship and
diversity. If not, you are probably a narrow-minded bigot.
We tend to like people with strong and reasonable beliefs
and principles.
So we're thankful, especially after watching recent Senate
confirmation hearings and the presidential inauguration this
past weekend, that there are decent, religious people in the
public square, including apparently President George W. Bush
and his Attorney General-designate John Ashcroft.
Neither of us is an evangelical Christian. But we were
appalled at the recent insinuations emanating from inside
the Washington Beltway and from some in the establishment
media about the fitness of devoutly religious people, like
Ashcroft, to serve in government. And we know some local
evangelical Christians were upset, too.
After their recent disastrous calls of the election results
in Florida (relying on Voter News Service projections),
you'd think the major news organizations would not simply
parrot something they had heard second-hand from liberal
activists about the so-called "racism" of John Ashcroft.
This charge was so baseless that even Ashcroft's
nemesis -and alleged victim of that "racism" -Missouri Judge
Ronnie White, would disagree with it in Senate hearings.
You'd also think that if some in the media were going to
cynically describe George W. Bush's nomination of Ashcroft
as an attempt to appease the "religious right" or the "far
right," they would balance such cynicism by noting that
groups opposing Ashcroft were on the far, secular left.
Instead, they mildly identified these protesters as
"environmental," "women's" or "civil rights" groups. As a
result, the media helped fan a stereotypical attack on
devout, evangelical Christians as being nothing more than
racist, would-be theocrats.
Bill Banuchi, executive director of New York's Christian
Coalition, found the affair offensive. "They are still
trying to spread the lie that we are poor, uneducated, and
easy to lead," he said. Banuchi suggested that those
opposing Ashcroft may be more concerned about his ability to
challenge liberal views on abortion, for example. "What they
are really afraid of is Ashcroft's influence," he added.
Indeed, some liberals are remarkably fundamentalist about
their interpretations of the Bill of Rights. Ridiculously
reasoned Supreme Court decisions like Roe vs. Wade and
Planned Parenthood vs. Casey have become left-wing sacred
scriptures, against which any disagreement is considered
heresy.
In fact, the Senate confirmation hearings had more than a
whiff of a heresy trial. Sen. Ted Ken- nedy (D-Mass.) did
not so much discuss as bombastically denunciate. And Sen.
Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), lobbing hypothetical cases at
Ashcroft about abortion, became visibly impatient because
Ashcroft replied only about what the law allowed,
appropriately so for the would-be attorney general, and
refused to say anything using the word "should" which might
suggest moral endorsement.
"I think many are feeling the guilt of their own positions
...You hear the hostility in Kennedy's voice," said Roger
Bogsted, a deacon at the Bethpage Assembly of God and vice
chairman of the New York Conservative Party. "It cries out
to me of a guy who has walked away from his own faith, so to
speak, in the actions and the positions that he has taken,"
he continued. We say, Amen.
We're sure that the hysterical liberal fund-raising letters
already have been composed, citing George W. Bush's
inauguration speech, with its numerous religious references,
and Ashcroft's nomination as the signs of an impending
theocracy. Yet, in reality, all of the devoutly religious
people we've met are first-rate citizens, who revere the
Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the Bill
of Rights, even while, as with the sacred books, sometimes
disagreeing about their proper interpretation.
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