subject:"\[AFMUG\] 450m"

Thanks Neil!

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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Neil Smellie 
<n...@corebroadband.ca>
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Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 12:05 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Andreas

We used these

SYNCBOX JUNIOR AUX PORT VERSION

Works like a charm

Neil



On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 11:47 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> 
wrote:
Do  you already have the CMM5?  If not I would use Packetflux.

From: Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:43 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

We need power and timing, but no data… hence the CMM5.

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600<tel:(866)%20727-4138>
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"ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>" 
<ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
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<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 11:06 AM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

I would work out ohms law on it to make sure.
Do you need to run data over the CAT 5?
If not, you really don’t need the CMM5, just connect all the wires of similar 
polarity and connect direct to the power supply.

From: Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:14 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138<tel:(866)%20727-4138> x-600
http://www.silowireless.com<http://www.silowireless.com/>
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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

2017-12-29 Thread Neil Smellie

Andreas

We used these

SYNCBOX JUNIOR AUX PORT VERSION

Works like a charm

Neil



On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 11:47 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Do  you already have the CMM5?  If not I would use Packetflux.
>
> *From:* Andreas Wiatowski
> *Sent:* Friday, December 29, 2017 9:43 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)
>
>
> We need power and timing, but no data… hence the CMM5.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
>
> Silo Wireless Inc.
>
> 1-866-727-4138 x-600 <(866)%20727-4138>
>
> http://www.silowireless.com
>
> Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV
>
>
>
> Silo Wireless is a Proud Member of:
>
> CanWISP http://www.canwisp.ca
>
> WISPA http://wispa.org
>
> Brantford Brant Chamber of Commerce
>
> Paris Chamber of Commerce
>
> Cambridge Chamber of Commerce
>
>
>
>
>
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> ch...@wbmfg.com>
> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Date: *Friday, December 29, 2017 at 11:06 AM
> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)
>
>
>
> I would work out ohms law on it to make sure.
>
> Do you need to run data over the CAT 5?
>
> If not, you really don’t need the CMM5, just connect all the wires of
> similar polarity and connect direct to the power supply.
>
>
>
> *From:* Andreas Wiatowski
>
> *Sent:* Friday, December 29, 2017 7:14 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)
>
>
>
> Good Morning,
>
>
>
> We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with
> fibre.  To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we
> can power the M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have
> the answer to this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of
> upto 500ft!
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
>
> Silo Wireless Inc.
>
> 1-866-727-4138 <(866)%20727-4138> x-600
>
> http://www.silowireless.com
>
> Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV
>
>
>
> Silo Wireless is a Proud Member of:
>
> CanWISP http://www.canwisp.ca
>
> WISPA http://wispa.org
>
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>
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>
> Cambridge Chamber of Commerce
>
>
>
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Bracebridge ON P1L 2A6
705-224-2673 ext 102

Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

I don’t have a CMM5. I have been using CMM4 and Packetflux over the years.  I 
didn’t know PF had a Medusa capable unit on the market…I will take a look.

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of "ch...@wbmfg.com" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 11:47 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Do  you already have the CMM5?  If not I would use Packetflux.

From: Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:43 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

We need power and timing, but no data… hence the CMM5.

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of "ch...@wbmfg.com" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 11:06 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

I would work out ohms law on it to make sure.
Do you need to run data over the CAT 5?
If not, you really don’t need the CMM5, just connect all the wires of similar 
polarity and connect direct to the power supply.

From: Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:14 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com<http://www.silowireless.com/>
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

2017-12-29 Thread chuck

Do  you already have the CMM5?  If not I would use Packetflux.  

From: Andreas Wiatowski 
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:43 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

We need power and timing, but no data… hence the CMM5.

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

1-866-727-4138 x-600

http://www.silowireless.com

Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of "ch...@wbmfg.com" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 11:06 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

I would work out ohms law on it to make sure.  

Do you need to run data over the CAT 5?

If not, you really don’t need the CMM5, just connect all the wires of similar 
polarity and connect direct to the power supply.

From: Andreas Wiatowski 

Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:14 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

1-866-727-4138 x-600

http://www.silowireless.com

Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

We need power and timing, but no data… hence the CMM5.

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
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Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of "ch...@wbmfg.com" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 11:06 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

I would work out ohms law on it to make sure.
Do you need to run data over the CAT 5?
If not, you really don’t need the CMM5, just connect all the wires of similar 
polarity and connect direct to the power supply.

From: Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:14 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com<http://www.silowireless.com/>
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

2017-12-29 Thread Rory Conaway

Isn't the 450m 48v?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Power consumption from the 450M is very different form a UBNT Unifi AP... just 
saying!

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Rory 
Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 12:04 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

If you use 23G Cat-6, you should be fine.  We just connected a Ubiquiti Unifi 
radio at 490' and it's running fine.  We used Primus direct burial cable for 
this run.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com<http://www.silowireless.com/>
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

Silo Wireless is a Proud Member of:
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WISPA http://wispa.org
Brantford Brant Chamber of Commerce
Paris Chamber of Commerce
Cambridge Chamber of Commerce

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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

2017-12-29 Thread Gino A. Villarini

Power consumption from the 450M is very different form a UBNT Unifi AP… just 
saying!

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Rory 
Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017 at 12:04 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

If you use 23G Cat-6, you should be fine.  We just connected a Ubiquiti Unifi 
radio at 490’ and it’s running fine.  We used Primus direct burial cable for 
this run.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Wiatowski
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com<http://www.silowireless.com/>
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

Silo Wireless is a Proud Member of:
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WISPA http://wispa.org
Brantford Brant Chamber of Commerce
Paris Chamber of Commerce
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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

2017-12-29 Thread chuck

I would work out ohms law on it to make sure.  
Do you need to run data over the CAT 5?
If not, you really don’t need the CMM5, just connect all the wires of similar 
polarity and connect direct to the power supply.

From: Andreas Wiatowski 
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:14 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

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Re: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

2017-12-29 Thread Rory Conaway

If you use 23G Cat-6, you should be fine.  We just connected a Ubiquiti Unifi 
radio at 490’ and it’s running fine.  We used Primus direct burial cable for 
this run.

Rory

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Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 7:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
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Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

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[AFMUG] 450M maximum length of Cat5e (Just for power)

Good Morning,

We have a couple of large towers where we will be installing 450M with fibre.  
To power we, would like to use the CMM5 , but we are unsure if we can power the 
M sufficiently over such a long CAT 5 run.  Does anyone have the answer to 
this? We could see cat5 runs (Shielded and gell filled) of upto 500ft!

Cheers,

Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
http://www.silowireless.com
Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

Silo Wireless is a Proud Member of:
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Re: [AFMUG] 450M default pins

2017-08-29 Thread Carl Peterson

The SFP port is licensed.
I'm not sure if this is/was an issue with the SFP port or something else.
I had set it to get DHCP in the lab to make it easier to transition to the
field.  When I finally got back into it, it had taken the DHCP address it
had gotten in the lab and disabled the DHCP state...  Not sure if this is
supposed to be a feature... or perhaps I did it accidentally.  The link was
coming up fine at layer 1 but I wasn't seeing anything in the mac table.

  In any case, I'm going to leave it on copper for the time being as we are
way overloaded on that sector and need to start moving customers over to
the 450M.  If/when cambium supports out of band management on the 450M I'll
try moving payload over to the SFP and running management over the copper
port or I'll wait till I get another one in the lab and test it out with
bidi again and put it through its paces before moving this one back over to
fiber.

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Roland Houin  wrote:

> you will need a license to use the sfp port.
>
> roland
>
>
> > What are the default pins on a 450m with POE out set on the aux port. It
> is
> set to use the SFP but I'm getting nada on that port even with a patch
> cable
> and their SFP. It links fine but is sending zero packets. Hopefully with a
> reset it will at least work on the copper port. <
>
>

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Re: [AFMUG] 450M default pins

2017-08-28 Thread Roland Houin

you will need a license to use the sfp port.

roland


> What are the default pins on a 450m with POE out set on the aux port. It is
set to use the SFP but I'm getting nada on that port even with a patch cable
and their SFP. It links fine but is sending zero packets. Hopefully with a
reset it will at least work on the copper port. <

Re: [AFMUG] 450M default pins

2017-08-28 Thread George Skorup

I don't think there's default plug support on the aux port. Because it's 
not needed. Same as the 450i. Give it a quick 1-2 second power cycle. 
That will make the boot loader pause for I think 30 seconds. Open your 
browser to 169.254.1.1 and you'll see the reboot to defaults option. You 
might have to power cycle once, leave it on for about 10 seconds, and 
then do the 2 second cycle. Been a while since I had to do that on a 450i.


On 8/28/2017 12:38 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:

What are the default pins on a 450m with POE out set on the aux port.  It is 
set to use the SFP but I'm getting nada on that port even with a patch cable 
and their SFP. It links fine but is sending zero packets.  Hopefully with a 
reset it will at least work on the copper port.

[AFMUG] 450M default pins

2017-08-28 Thread Carl Peterson

What are the default pins on a 450m with POE out set on the aux port.  It is 
set to use the SFP but I'm getting nada on that port even with a patch cable 
and their SFP. It links fine but is sending zero packets.  Hopefully with a 
reset it will at least work on the copper port.

I went through about a dozen SMs on 14.2.1 and 15.x where an upgrade key
appeared to work the first time, change QoS settings and reboot, but
they'd boot back up saying it was invalid and the QoS would be capped at
the previous license tier. Apply the key and QoS again, reboot and then
it was fine. Cambium couldn't reproduce it. But the last handful I've
done over the past few months have worked the first time. Maybe it was
just those radios. I have no freakin clue.

On 8/17/2017 11:34 AM, Carl Peterson wrote:
So after getting the 450M upgraded, it now has the option to use
EITHER the SFP port or the copper port. Using fiber for payload and
coper for management doesn't seem to be an option, at least yet.

Bidi SFPs seem to work fine. My uncoded FS ones show up like:

SFP Part Details :
Fiberstore SFP-GE-BX, serial number N0707260011, date code 170727

The SFP port on the 450M is not set in the center of the hole but
rather sits closer to the antenna side so clearance is going to be an
issue with some SFPs. The kit has what appears to be a custom
machined extended metal gland which does a pretty good job of fixing
the design flaw with the SFP port.

With the license applied, the Board Model shows up like:

Board Model :
C050045A102A
P005208
P005208

Could be because I went to the license url a second time when I first
set it up and there was still no SFP option showing in the GUI.

Cost for the kit is ~$300 which included the SFP worth $10, the gland
worth $30 (only because they have to have them custom machined to get
around the design problem), and $260 license to use the port.

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Jon Langeler
<jon-ispli...@michwave.net <mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net>> wrote:

How much is it?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

On Aug 16, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

It still blows my mind that use of the SFP port requires a license.

-
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*From: *"Carl Peterson" <cpeter...@portnetworks.com
<mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com>>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:15:04 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

Got the SFP kit and entitlement. Created the license and applied
it, but I can't find anything in the config about the SFP port or
any way to tell it to use the SFP port. Am I just being stupid
and missing something?

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Carl Peterson
<cpeter...@portnetworks.com <mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com>>
wrote:

Thanks Mark,

Was wondering about that gland, it looks a lot like the
glands that come with Siklu radios which are too big. I've
ordered the 450M kit and I'll see how it fits and test out
BiDa. I'm planning on adding an Isolated DC-DC +48V bus at
the site at least for now unless someone else wants to test
them out for awhile on -48. Kind of a PITA though. Wish
everyone would just support + and - 48DC on a DC terminal, at
least on gear costing multiple Ks.

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Mark Radabaugh
<m...@amplex.net <mailto:m...@amplex.net>> wrote:

Carl,

I apologize, I was working on a 820C project earlier and
for some reason I misread this as a discussion of 820’s
and not 450M.

The glands I called out earlier are probably not going to
fit in the 450m. I don’t have a 450M I can try it in at
the moment. We are supposed to be getting 4 in tomorrow
and I can try it and let you know if it fits.

We have powered the 450m with both +48V and -48V DC
supplies through a CMM5

And since we are talking about a 450m and not a 820c, I
have not tried a BiDi SFP yet.

Sorry for the misinformation. To many voices in the
head :-)

Mark

On Aug 3, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Carl Peterson
<cpeter...@portnetwor

Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

2017-08-17 Thread Carl Peterson

So after getting the 450M upgraded, it now has the option to use EITHER the
SFP port or the copper port.  Using fiber for payload and coper for
management doesn't seem to be an option, at least yet.

Bidi SFPs seem to work fine.  My uncoded FS ones show up like:

SFP Part Details :
Fiberstore SFP-GE-BX, serial number N0707260011, date code 170727

The SFP port on the 450M is not set in the center of the hole but rather
sits closer to the antenna side so clearance is going to be an issue with
some SFPs.  The kit has what appears to be a custom machined extended metal
gland which does a pretty good job of fixing the design flaw with the SFP
port.

With the license applied, the Board Model shows up like:

Board Model :
C050045A102A
P005208
P005208


Could be because I went to the license url a second time when I first set
it up and there was still no SFP option showing in the GUI.


Cost for the kit is ~$300 which included the SFP worth $10, the gland worth
$30 (only because they have to have them custom machined to get around the
design problem), and $260 license to use the port.


On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Jon Langeler <jon-ispli...@michwave.net>
wrote:

> How much is it?
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Aug 16, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> It still blows my mind that use of the SFP port requires a license.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
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>
>
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> ------
> *From: *"Carl Peterson" <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:15:04 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
>
> Got the SFP kit and entitlement.  Created the license and applied it, but
> I can't find anything in the config about the SFP port or any way to tell
> it to use the SFP port.  Am I just being stupid and missing something?
>
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Mark,
>>
>> Was wondering about that gland, it looks a lot like the glands that come
>> with Siklu radios which are too big.  I've ordered the 450M kit and I'll
>> see how it fits and test out BiDa.  I'm planning on adding an Isolated
>> DC-DC +48V bus at the site at least for now unless someone else wants to
>> test them out for awhile on -48.  Kind of a PITA though.  Wish everyone
>> would just support + and - 48DC on a DC terminal, at least on gear costing
>> multiple Ks.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Carl,
>>>
>>> I apologize, I was working on a 820C project earlier and for some reason
>>> I misread this as a discussion of 820’s and not 450M.
>>>
>>> The glands I called out earlier are probably not going to fit in the
>>> 450m.   I don’t have a 450M I can try it in at the moment.  We are supposed
>>> to be getting 4 in tomorrow and I can try it and let you know if it fits.
>>>
>>> We have powered the 450m with both +48V and -48V DC supplies through a
>>> CMM5
>>>
>>> And since we are talking about a 450m and not a 820c, I have not tried a
>>> BiDi SFP yet.
>>>
>>> Sorry for the misinformation.   To many voices in the head :-)
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Matt,
>>>
>>> While I have your attention, I have two more 450M questions.
>>>
>>> 1) What are the supported POE pinouts?
>>>
>>> 2) Off chance, but it it ground agnostic, i.e isolated ground?
>>>
>>> It is nice to see an SFP port but I really would have LOVED to see and
>>> SFP and -48VDC or +/-48VDC like most Siklu gear.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In this day and age…
>>>>
&g

Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

2017-08-16 Thread Jon Langeler

How much is it?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Aug 16, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> 
> It still blows my mind that use of the SFP port requires a license.
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> 
> The Brothers WISP
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Carl Peterson" <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:15:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
> 
> Got the SFP kit and entitlement.  Created the license and applied it, but I 
> can't find anything in the config about the SFP port or any way to tell it to 
> use the SFP port.  Am I just being stupid and missing something?
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> 
>> wrote:
>> Thanks Mark,
>> 
>> Was wondering about that gland, it looks a lot like the glands that come 
>> with Siklu radios which are too big.  I've ordered the 450M kit and I'll see 
>> how it fits and test out BiDa.  I'm planning on adding an Isolated DC-DC 
>> +48V bus at the site at least for now unless someone else wants to test them 
>> out for awhile on -48.  Kind of a PITA though.  Wish everyone would just 
>> support + and - 48DC on a DC terminal, at least on gear costing multiple Ks. 
>>  
>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Carl,
>>> 
>>> I apologize, I was working on a 820C project earlier and for some reason I 
>>> misread this as a discussion of 820’s and not 450M.
>>> 
>>> The glands I called out earlier are probably not going to fit in the 450m.  
>>>  I don’t have a 450M I can try it in at the moment.  We are supposed to be 
>>> getting 4 in tomorrow and I can try it and let you know if it fits.
>>> 
>>> We have powered the 450m with both +48V and -48V DC supplies through a CMM5
>>> 
>>> And since we are talking about a 450m and not a 820c, I have not tried a 
>>> BiDi SFP yet.
>>> 
>>> Sorry for the misinformation.   To many voices in the head :-)
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Matt,
>>> 
>>> While I have your attention, I have two more 450M questions.
>>> 
>>> 1) What are the supported POE pinouts?
>>> 
>>> 2) Off chance, but it it ground agnostic, i.e isolated ground? 
>>> 
>>> It is nice to see an SFP port but I really would have LOVED to see and SFP 
>>> and -48VDC or +/-48VDC like most Siklu gear.  
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> In this day and age… 
>>>> 
>>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Mike Hammett 
>>>> <af...@ics-il.net>
>>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>> Date: Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 2:34 PM
>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
>>>> 
>>>> A license key to use the SFP port? Seriously?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> 
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>> 
>>>> The Brothers WISP
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>> 
>>>> President
>>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: "Matt Mangriotis" <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com>
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:20:32 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
>>>> 
>>>> Carl –
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 1)  Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for BIDA 
>>>> module (not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one…
>>>> 
>>>> 2)  Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit.  The 
>>>> kit consists of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, 
>>>> and the entitlement key to apply the license to the radio.
>&

Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

2017-08-16 Thread Mike Hammett

It still blows my mind that use of the SFP port requires a license. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Carl Peterson" <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:15:04 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs 


Got the SFP kit and entitlement. Created the license and applied it, but I 
can't find anything in the config about the SFP port or any way to tell it to 
use the SFP port. Am I just being stupid and missing something? 


On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Carl Peterson < cpeter...@portnetworks.com > 
wrote: 



Thanks Mark, 


Was wondering about that gland, it looks a lot like the glands that come with 
Siklu radios which are too big. I've ordered the 450M kit and I'll see how it 
fits and test out BiDa. I'm planning on adding an Isolated DC-DC +48V bus at 
the site at least for now unless someone else wants to test them out for awhile 
on -48. Kind of a PITA though. Wish everyone would just support + and - 48DC on 
a DC terminal, at least on gear costing multiple Ks. 


On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Mark Radabaugh < m...@amplex.net > wrote: 





Carl, 


I apologize, I was working on a 820C project earlier and for some reason I 
misread this as a discussion of 820’s and not 450M. 


The glands I called out earlier are probably not going to fit in the 450m. I 
don’t have a 450M I can try it in at the moment. We are supposed to be getting 
4 in tomorrow and I can try it and let you know if it fits. 


We have powered the 450m with both +48V and -48V DC supplies through a CMM5 


And since we are talking about a 450m and not a 820c, I have not tried a BiDi 
SFP yet. 


Sorry for the misinformation. To many voices in the head :-) 


Mark 








On Aug 3, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Carl Peterson < cpeter...@portnetworks.com > wrote: 


Matt, 


While I have your attention, I have two more 450M questions. 


1) What are the supported POE pinouts? 


2) Off chance, but it it ground agnostic, i.e isolated ground? 


It is nice to see an SFP port but I really would have LOVED to see and SFP and 
-48VDC or +/-48VDC like most Siklu gear. 


On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Gino A. Villarini < g...@aeronetpr.com > wrote: 




In this day and age… 


From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net 
> 
Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Date: Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 2:34 PM 
To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs 





A license key to use the SFP port? Seriously? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 









Gino A. Villarini 
President 
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 


 

From: "Matt Mangriotis" < matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:20:32 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs 



Carl – 


1) Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for BIDA module 
(not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one… 
2) Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit. The kit consists 
of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, and the entitlement 
key to apply the license to the radio. 


Matt 

From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson 
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:17 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs 



1) I know you need to buy cambiums SFPs to get the license to unlock the SFP 
port on the 450M, but once the license is applied, is there any limitation as 
to what SFPs you can run? Would much prefer to use BIDA so we can just run 
clearshield simlex with SC SOCs on it and so we don't have to waste fiber. Has 
anyone tested other SFPs in it and have any not worked? 




2) The SFP cage is flush with the exterior of the case and has very little 
space in the antenna side of the cage so you can't screw the cambium gland in 
whith an SFP installed. Does the SFP kit come with a special gland with room 
for the SFP and connector? 














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PORT NETWORKS 
401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 
Baltimore, MD 21202 
(410) 637-3707 










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Carl Peterson 

PORT NETWORKS 
401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 
Baltimore, MD 21202 
(410) 637-3707 





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PORT NETWORKS 
401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 
Baltimore, MD 21202 
(410) 637-3707

Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

2017-08-15 Thread Sean Heskett

Yeah check the release notes but I think  15.1 was the first version to
support SFP.

15.1.1 is the latest

-Sean


On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 11:35 AM Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
wrote:

> "SFP kits (part numbers C65L008A and C65L009A) are required for
> SFP port connectivity. SFP port is not supported in system release 15.0/
> 15.0.0.1."
>
> Perhaps also not in 15.0.1
>
> I'll try new firmware.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Got the SFP kit and entitlement.  Created the license and applied it, but
>> I can't find anything in the config about the SFP port or any way to tell
>> it to use the SFP port.  Am I just being stupid and missing something?
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Mark,
>>>
>>> Was wondering about that gland, it looks a lot like the glands that come
>>> with Siklu radios which are too big.  I've ordered the 450M kit and I'll
>>> see how it fits and test out BiDa.  I'm planning on adding an Isolated
>>> DC-DC +48V bus at the site at least for now unless someone else wants to
>>> test them out for awhile on -48.  Kind of a PITA though.  Wish everyone
>>> would just support + and - 48DC on a DC terminal, at least on gear costing
>>> multiple Ks.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Carl,
>>>>
>>>> I apologize, I was working on a 820C project earlier and for some
>>>> reason I misread this as a discussion of 820’s and not 450M.
>>>>
>>>> The glands I called out earlier are probably not going to fit in the
>>>> 450m.   I don’t have a 450M I can try it in at the moment.  We are supposed
>>>> to be getting 4 in tomorrow and I can try it and let you know if it fits.
>>>>
>>>> We have powered the 450m with both +48V and -48V DC supplies through a
>>>> CMM5
>>>>
>>>> And since we are talking about a 450m and not a 820c, I have not tried
>>>> a BiDi SFP yet.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for the misinformation.   To many voices in the head :-)
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Matt,
>>>>
>>>> While I have your attention, I have two more 450M questions.
>>>>
>>>> 1) What are the supported POE pinouts?
>>>>
>>>> 2) Off chance, but it it ground agnostic, i.e isolated ground?
>>>>
>>>> It is nice to see an SFP port but I really would have LOVED to see and
>>>> SFP and -48VDC or +/-48VDC like most Siklu gear.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In this day and age…
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Mike Hammett <
>>>>> af...@ics-il.net>
>>>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>>> Date: Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 2:34 PM
>>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
>>>>>
>>>>> A license key to use the SFP port? Seriously?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

2017-08-15 Thread Carl Peterson

"SFP kits (part numbers C65L008A and C65L009A) are required for SFP
port connectivity. SFP port is not supported in system release 15.0/15.0.0.1
."

Perhaps also not in 15.0.1

I'll try new firmware.


On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
wrote:

> Got the SFP kit and entitlement.  Created the license and applied it, but
> I can't find anything in the config about the SFP port or any way to tell
> it to use the SFP port.  Am I just being stupid and missing something?
>
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Mark,
>>
>> Was wondering about that gland, it looks a lot like the glands that come
>> with Siklu radios which are too big.  I've ordered the 450M kit and I'll
>> see how it fits and test out BiDa.  I'm planning on adding an Isolated
>> DC-DC +48V bus at the site at least for now unless someone else wants to
>> test them out for awhile on -48.  Kind of a PITA though.  Wish everyone
>> would just support + and - 48DC on a DC terminal, at least on gear costing
>> multiple Ks.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Carl,
>>>
>>> I apologize, I was working on a 820C project earlier and for some reason
>>> I misread this as a discussion of 820’s and not 450M.
>>>
>>> The glands I called out earlier are probably not going to fit in the
>>> 450m.   I don’t have a 450M I can try it in at the moment.  We are supposed
>>> to be getting 4 in tomorrow and I can try it and let you know if it fits.
>>>
>>> We have powered the 450m with both +48V and -48V DC supplies through a
>>> CMM5
>>>
>>> And since we are talking about a 450m and not a 820c, I have not tried a
>>> BiDi SFP yet.
>>>
>>> Sorry for the misinformation.   To many voices in the head :-)
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Matt,
>>>
>>> While I have your attention, I have two more 450M questions.
>>>
>>> 1) What are the supported POE pinouts?
>>>
>>> 2) Off chance, but it it ground agnostic, i.e isolated ground?
>>>
>>> It is nice to see an SFP port but I really would have LOVED to see and
>>> SFP and -48VDC or +/-48VDC like most Siklu gear.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In this day and age…
>>>>
>>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Mike Hammett <
>>>> af...@ics-il.net>
>>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>> Date: Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 2:34 PM
>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
>>>>
>>>> A license key to use the SFP port? Seriously?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>>> President
>>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> *From: *"Matt Mangriotis" <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com>
>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:20:32 AM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
>>>>
>>>> Carl –
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1)  Not sure on this… I have asked engineering abou

Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

2017-08-15 Thread Carl Peterson

Got the SFP kit and entitlement.  Created the license and applied it, but I
can't find anything in the config about the SFP port or any way to tell it
to use the SFP port.  Am I just being stupid and missing something?

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Mark,
>
> Was wondering about that gland, it looks a lot like the glands that come
> with Siklu radios which are too big.  I've ordered the 450M kit and I'll
> see how it fits and test out BiDa.  I'm planning on adding an Isolated
> DC-DC +48V bus at the site at least for now unless someone else wants to
> test them out for awhile on -48.  Kind of a PITA though.  Wish everyone
> would just support + and - 48DC on a DC terminal, at least on gear costing
> multiple Ks.
>
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
>
>> Carl,
>>
>> I apologize, I was working on a 820C project earlier and for some reason
>> I misread this as a discussion of 820’s and not 450M.
>>
>> The glands I called out earlier are probably not going to fit in the
>> 450m.   I don’t have a 450M I can try it in at the moment.  We are supposed
>> to be getting 4 in tomorrow and I can try it and let you know if it fits.
>>
>> We have powered the 450m with both +48V and -48V DC supplies through a
>> CMM5
>>
>> And since we are talking about a 450m and not a 820c, I have not tried a
>> BiDi SFP yet.
>>
>> Sorry for the misinformation.   To many voices in the head :-)
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Matt,
>>
>> While I have your attention, I have two more 450M questions.
>>
>> 1) What are the supported POE pinouts?
>>
>> 2) Off chance, but it it ground agnostic, i.e isolated ground?
>>
>> It is nice to see an SFP port but I really would have LOVED to see and
>> SFP and -48VDC or +/-48VDC like most Siklu gear.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In this day and age…
>>>
>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Mike Hammett <
>>> af...@ics-il.net>
>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>> Date: Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 2:34 PM
>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
>>>
>>> A license key to use the SFP port? Seriously?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>>> President
>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>>
>>> 
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Matt Mangriotis" <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com>
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:20:32 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
>>>
>>> Carl –
>>>
>>>
>>> 1)  Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for
>>> BIDA module (not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one…
>>>
>>> 2)  Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit.  The
>>> kit consists of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, and
>>> the entitlement key to apply the license to the radio.
>>>
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Carl Peterson
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:17 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
>>>
>>>
>>> 1) I

Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

Thanks Mark,

Was wondering about that gland, it looks a lot like the glands that come
with Siklu radios which are too big.  I've ordered the 450M kit and I'll
see how it fits and test out BiDa.  I'm planning on adding an Isolated
DC-DC +48V bus at the site at least for now unless someone else wants to
test them out for awhile on -48.  Kind of a PITA though.  Wish everyone
would just support + and - 48DC on a DC terminal, at least on gear costing
multiple Ks.

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:

> Carl,
>
> I apologize, I was working on a 820C project earlier and for some reason I
> misread this as a discussion of 820’s and not 450M.
>
> The glands I called out earlier are probably not going to fit in the 450m.
>   I don’t have a 450M I can try it in at the moment.  We are supposed to be
> getting 4 in tomorrow and I can try it and let you know if it fits.
>
> We have powered the 450m with both +48V and -48V DC supplies through a CMM5
>
> And since we are talking about a 450m and not a 820c, I have not tried a
> BiDi SFP yet.
>
> Sorry for the misinformation.   To many voices in the head :-)
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Aug 3, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
> wrote:
>
> Matt,
>
> While I have your attention, I have two more 450M questions.
>
> 1) What are the supported POE pinouts?
>
> 2) Off chance, but it it ground agnostic, i.e isolated ground?
>
> It is nice to see an SFP port but I really would have LOVED to see and SFP
> and -48VDC or +/-48VDC like most Siklu gear.
>
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
> wrote:
>
>> In this day and age…
>>
>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Mike Hammett <
>> af...@ics-il.net>
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> Date: Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 2:34 PM
>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
>>
>> A license key to use the SFP port? Seriously?
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Matt Mangriotis" <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:20:32 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
>>
>> Carl –
>>
>>
>> 1)  Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for
>> BIDA module (not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one…
>>
>> 2)  Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit.  The
>> kit consists of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, and
>> the entitlement key to apply the license to the radio.
>>
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Carl Peterson
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:17 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
>>
>>
>> 1) I know you need to buy cambiums SFPs to get the license to unlock the
>> SFP port on the 450M, but once the license is applied, is there any
>> limitation as to what SFPs you can run?  Would much prefer to use BIDA so
>> we can just run clearshield simlex with SC SOCs on it and so we don't have
>> to waste fiber.  Has anyone tested other SFPs in it and have any not
>> worked?
>>
>>
>> 2) The SFP cage is flush with the exterior of the case and has very
>> little space in the antenna side of the cage so you can't screw the cambium
>> gland in whith an SFP installed.  Does the SFP kit come with a special
>> gland with room for the SFP and connector?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Carl Peterson
>
> *PORT NETWORKS*
>
> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
>
> Baltimore, MD 21202
>
> (410) 637-3707
>
>
>


-- 

Carl Peterson

*PORT NETWORKS*

401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

Baltimore, MD 21202

(410) 637-3707

Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

2017-08-03 Thread Mark Radabaugh

Carl,

I apologize, I was working on a 820C project earlier and for some reason I 
misread this as a discussion of 820’s and not 450M.

The glands I called out earlier are probably not going to fit in the 450m.   I 
don’t have a 450M I can try it in at the moment.  We are supposed to be getting 
4 in tomorrow and I can try it and let you know if it fits.

We have powered the 450m with both +48V and -48V DC supplies through a CMM5

And since we are talking about a 450m and not a 820c, I have not tried a BiDi 
SFP yet.

Sorry for the misinformation.   To many voices in the head :-)

Mark


> On Aug 3, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
> 
> Matt,
> 
> While I have your attention, I have two more 450M questions.
> 
> 1) What are the supported POE pinouts?
> 
> 2) Off chance, but it it ground agnostic, i.e isolated ground? 
> 
> It is nice to see an SFP port but I really would have LOVED to see and SFP 
> and -48VDC or +/-48VDC like most Siklu gear.  
> 
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com 
> <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:
> In this day and age… 
> 
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of 
> Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com 
> <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
> Date: Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 2:34 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
> 
> A license key to use the SFP port? Seriously?
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> 
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> 
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> 
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> 
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> 
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> 
> 
>  <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> 
>  
> 
> Gino A. Villarini
> 
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Matt Mangriotis" <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com 
> <mailto:matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com>>
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:20:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
> 
> Carl –
> 
>  
> 1)  Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for BIDA 
> module (not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one…
> 
> 2)  Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit.  The kit 
> consists of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, and the 
> entitlement key to apply the license to the radio.
> 
>  
> Matt
> 
>   <>
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On 
> Behalf Of Carl Peterson
> Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:17 AM
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Subject: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
> 
>  
> 1) I know you need to buy cambiums SFPs to get the license to unlock the SFP 
> port on the 450M, but once the license is applied, is there any limitation as 
> to what SFPs you can run?  Would much prefer to use BIDA so we can just run 
> clearshield simlex with SC SOCs on it and so we don't have to waste fiber.  
> Has anyone tested other SFPs in it and have any not worked?  
> 
>  
> 2) The SFP cage is flush with the exterior of the case and has very little 
> space in the antenna side of the cage so you can't screw the cambium gland in 
> whith an SFP installed.  Does the SFP kit come with a special gland with room 
> for the SFP and connector? 
> 
> 
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Carl Peterson
> 
> PORT NETWORKS
> 
> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
> 
> Baltimore, MD 21202
> 
> (410) 637-3707 
>

Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

Matt,

While I have your attention, I have two more 450M questions.

1) What are the supported POE pinouts?

2) Off chance, but it it ground agnostic, i.e isolated ground?

It is nice to see an SFP port but I really would have LOVED to see and SFP
and -48VDC or +/-48VDC like most Siklu gear.

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:

> In this day and age…
>
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Mike Hammett <
> af...@ics-il.net>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Date: Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 2:34 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
>
> A license key to use the SFP port? Seriously?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> --
> *From: *"Matt Mangriotis" <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:20:32 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
>
> Carl –
>
>
>
> 1)  Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for BIDA
> module (not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one…
>
> 2)  Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit.  The
> kit consists of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, and
> the entitlement key to apply the license to the radio.
>
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Carl Peterson
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:17 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
>
>
>
> 1) I know you need to buy cambiums SFPs to get the license to unlock the
> SFP port on the 450M, but once the license is applied, is there any
> limitation as to what SFPs you can run?  Would much prefer to use BIDA so
> we can just run clearshield simlex with SC SOCs on it and so we don't have
> to waste fiber.  Has anyone tested other SFPs in it and have any not
> worked?
>
>
>
> 2) The SFP cage is flush with the exterior of the case and has very little
> space in the antenna side of the cage so you can't screw the cambium gland
> in whith an SFP installed.  Does the SFP kit come with a special gland with
> room for the SFP and connector?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 

Carl Peterson

*PORT NETWORKS*

401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

Baltimore, MD 21202

(410) 637-3707

Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

2017-08-03 Thread Gino A. Villarini

In this day and age…

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Mike 
Hammett <af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 2:34 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

A license key to use the SFP port? Seriously?



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From: "Matt Mangriotis" 
<matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com<mailto:matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:20:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

Carl –


1)  Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for BIDA 
module (not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one…

2)  Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit.  The kit 
consists of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, and the 
entitlement key to apply the license to the radio.

Matt

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:17 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

1) I know you need to buy cambiums SFPs to get the license to unlock the SFP 
port on the 450M, but once the license is applied, is there any limitation as 
to what SFPs you can run?  Would much prefer to use BIDA so we can just run 
clearshield simlex with SC SOCs on it and so we don't have to waste fiber.  Has 
anyone tested other SFPs in it and have any not worked?

2) The SFP cage is flush with the exterior of the case and has very little 
space in the antenna side of the cage so you can't screw the cambium gland in 
whith an SFP installed.  Does the SFP kit come with a special gland with room 
for the SFP and connector?

Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

2017-08-03 Thread Micah Miller

At least it's got SFP ports :P

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> A license key to use the SFP port? Seriously?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Matt Mangriotis" <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:20:32 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
>
> Carl –
>
>
>
> 1)  Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for BIDA
> module (not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one…
>
> 2)  Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit.  The
> kit consists of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, and
> the entitlement key to apply the license to the radio.
>
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Carl Peterson
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:17 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
>
>
>
> 1) I know you need to buy cambiums SFPs to get the license to unlock the
> SFP port on the 450M, but once the license is applied, is there any
> limitation as to what SFPs you can run?  Would much prefer to use BIDA so
> we can just run clearshield simlex with SC SOCs on it and so we don't have
> to waste fiber.  Has anyone tested other SFPs in it and have any not
> worked?
>
>
>
> 2) The SFP cage is flush with the exterior of the case and has very little
> space in the antenna side of the cage so you can't screw the cambium gland
> in whith an SFP installed.  Does the SFP kit come with a special gland with
> room for the SFP and connector?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
Micah Miller
Network/Server Administrator
Network Business Systems, Inc.
Phone: 309-944-8823

Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

2017-08-03 Thread Mike Hammett

A license key to use the SFP port? Seriously? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Matt Mangriotis" <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:20:32 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs 



Carl – 

1) Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for BIDA module 
(not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one… 
2) Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit. The kit consists 
of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, and the entitlement 
key to apply the license to the radio. 

Matt 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson 
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:17 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs 


1) I know you need to buy cambiums SFPs to get the license to unlock the SFP 
port on the 450M, but once the license is applied, is there any limitation as 
to what SFPs you can run? Would much prefer to use BIDA so we can just run 
clearshield simlex with SC SOCs on it and so we don't have to waste fiber. Has 
anyone tested other SFPs in it and have any not worked? 



2) The SFP cage is flush with the exterior of the case and has very little 
space in the antenna side of the cage so you can't screw the cambium gland in 
whith an SFP installed. Does the SFP kit come with a special gland with room 
for the SFP and connector?

Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

2017-08-03 Thread Mark Radabaugh

We routinely run Bidi optics in the 820c’s with no issues.   Our usual vendor 
is FlexOptics, which can be programmed to mimic pretty much any locked optic, 
but we just run a generic profile on them.  They work fine though Cambium 
doesn’t provide any SFP diagnostics (as far as I know they don’t provide 
diagnostics with the branded optics either).

N82L014 PTP 820 Glands_x5_Kit gets you 5 of these:





The ID of the threaded end is big enough to clear the face of the SFP even 
though the SFP protrudes slightly from the radio.

Mark

> On Aug 3, 2017, at 11:35 AM, Matt Mangriotis 
> <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:
> 
> Further to 1) … I couldn’t find any information on BIDA.  However, if you 
> mean BIDI Simplex, then we don’t currently support this, but have plans to 
> add this support (via software) in the near future.  I don’t yet have a 
> release this support is targeted for, but it will be on the roadmap once we 
> do.
>  
> Hope this helps.
>  
> Matt
>  
>  
> Carl –
>  
> 1)  Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for BIDA 
> module (not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one…
> 2)  Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit.  The kit 
> consists of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, and the 
> entitlement key to apply the license to the radio.
>  
> Matt
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On 
> Behalf Of Carl Peterson
> Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:17 AM
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Subject: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
>  
> 1) I know you need to buy cambiums SFPs to get the license to unlock the SFP 
> port on the 450M, but once the license is applied, is there any limitation as 
> to what SFPs you can run?  Would much prefer to use BIDA so we can just run 
> clearshield simlex with SC SOCs on it and so we don't have to waste fiber.  
> Has anyone tested other SFPs in it and have any not worked?  
>  
> 2) The SFP cage is flush with the exterior of the case and has very little 
> space in the antenna side of the cage so you can't screw the cambium gland in 
> whith an SFP installed.  Does the SFP kit come with a special gland with room 
> for the SFP and connector?

Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

Thanks Matt, yes, I meant BiDi.  Assuming they aren't locked to Cambium
SFPs, I'm not sure what would be different about it.  Guess I could just
try coding a Bidi SFP the same as the cambium SFP that comes with the kit
and test it.

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 11:39 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Are we totally stuck with Cambium only optics?
>
> *From:* Matt Mangriotis
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:35 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
>
>
> *Further to 1) … I couldn’t find any information on BIDA.  However, if you
> mean BIDI Simplex, then we don’t currently support this, but have plans to
> add this support (via software) in the near future.  I don’t yet have a
> release this support is targeted for, but it will be on the roadmap once we
> do.*
>
>
>
> *Hope this helps.*
>
>
>
> *Matt*
>
>
>
>
>
> Carl –
>
>
>
> 1)  Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for BIDA
> module (not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one…
>
> 2)  Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit.  The
> kit consists of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, and
> the entitlement key to apply the license to the radio.
>
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Carl Peterson
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:17 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 450M SFPs
>
>
>
> 1) I know you need to buy cambiums SFPs to get the license to unlock the
> SFP port on the 450M, but once the license is applied, is there any
> limitation as to what SFPs you can run?  Would much prefer to use BIDA so
> we can just run clearshield simlex with SC SOCs on it and so we don't have
> to waste fiber.  Has anyone tested other SFPs in it and have any not
> worked?
>
>
>
> 2) The SFP cage is flush with the exterior of the case and has very little
> space in the antenna side of the cage so you can't screw the cambium gland
> in whith an SFP installed.  Does the SFP kit come with a special gland with
> room for the SFP and connector?
>
>
>
>
>
>



-- 

Carl Peterson

*PORT NETWORKS*

401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

Baltimore, MD 21202

(410) 637-3707

Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

2017-08-03 Thread chuck

Are we totally stuck with Cambium only optics?

From: Matt Mangriotis 
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:35 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

Further to 1) … I couldn’t find any information on BIDA.  However, if you mean 
BIDI Simplex, then we don’t currently support this, but have plans to add this 
support (via software) in the near future.  I don’t yet have a release this 
support is targeted for, but it will be on the roadmap once we do.

Hope this helps.

Matt

Carl – 

1)  Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for BIDA 
module (not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one…

2)  Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit.  The kit 
consists of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, and the 
entitlement key to apply the license to the radio.

Matt

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:17 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

1) I know you need to buy cambiums SFPs to get the license to unlock the SFP 
port on the 450M, but once the license is applied, is there any limitation as 
to what SFPs you can run?  Would much prefer to use BIDA so we can just run 
clearshield simlex with SC SOCs on it and so we don't have to waste fiber.  Has 
anyone tested other SFPs in it and have any not worked?  

2) The SFP cage is flush with the exterior of the case and has very little 
space in the antenna side of the cage so you can't screw the cambium gland in 
whith an SFP installed.  Does the SFP kit come with a special gland with room 
for the SFP and connector?

Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

2017-08-03 Thread Matt Mangriotis

Further to 1) … I couldn’t find any information on BIDA.  However, if you mean 
BIDI Simplex, then we don’t currently support this, but have plans to add this 
support (via software) in the near future.  I don’t yet have a release this 
support is targeted for, but it will be on the roadmap once we do.

Hope this helps.

Matt


Carl –


1)  Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for BIDA 
module (not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one…

2)  Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit.  The kit 
consists of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, and the 
entitlement key to apply the license to the radio.

Matt

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:17 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

1) I know you need to buy cambiums SFPs to get the license to unlock the SFP 
port on the 450M, but once the license is applied, is there any limitation as 
to what SFPs you can run?  Would much prefer to use BIDA so we can just run 
clearshield simlex with SC SOCs on it and so we don't have to waste fiber.  Has 
anyone tested other SFPs in it and have any not worked?

2) The SFP cage is flush with the exterior of the case and has very little 
space in the antenna side of the cage so you can't screw the cambium gland in 
whith an SFP installed.  Does the SFP kit come with a special gland with room 
for the SFP and connector?

Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

2017-08-03 Thread Matt Mangriotis

Carl –


1)  Not sure on this… I have asked engineering about support for BIDA 
module (not BIDI?), and will post an answer when I get one…

2)  Yes, there is an “extended” gland that comes with the kit.  The kit 
consists of three parts: the SFP module itself, the extended gland, and the 
entitlement key to apply the license to the radio.

Matt

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 9:17 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

1) I know you need to buy cambiums SFPs to get the license to unlock the SFP 
port on the 450M, but once the license is applied, is there any limitation as 
to what SFPs you can run?  Would much prefer to use BIDA so we can just run 
clearshield simlex with SC SOCs on it and so we don't have to waste fiber.  Has 
anyone tested other SFPs in it and have any not worked?

2) The SFP cage is flush with the exterior of the case and has very little 
space in the antenna side of the cage so you can't screw the cambium gland in 
whith an SFP installed.  Does the SFP kit come with a special gland with room 
for the SFP and connector?

[AFMUG] 450M SFPs

1) I know you need to buy cambiums SFPs to get the license to unlock the
SFP port on the 450M, but once the license is applied, is there any
limitation as to what SFPs you can run?  Would much prefer to use BIDA so
we can just run clearshield simlex with SC SOCs on it and so we don't have
to waste fiber.  Has anyone tested other SFPs in it and have any not
worked?

2) The SFP cage is flush with the exterior of the case and has very little
space in the antenna side of the cage so you can't screw the cambium gland
in whith an SFP installed.  Does the SFP kit come with a special gland with
room for the SFP and connector?

Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

2017-08-01 Thread Carl Peterson

Has anyone powered the 450M via a netonix 48VH port?  I've got one in my
lab it would be the easiest way for me to power up to test and config but
the majic smoke inside the 450M is mighty expensive and I don't wan't to
let any out.  Not sure if I want to run it in production as 80W is a lot of
load to add to a Netonix just so I can reboot remotely.

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Jon Langeler <jon-ispli...@michwave.net>
wrote:

> Sounds like the perfect path!
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Mar 23, 2017, at 5:28 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
> The currently shipping recommendation if you want to use all packetflux
> gear:
>
> PowerInjector Plus Sync, in combination with a Syncbox Junior Aux Port
> (seems like you've already figured it out).
>
> This also applies to the cards for the almost shipping rackinjector.
>
> In a couple months there will also be the option of a card for the
> rackinjector which does the new style sync for the 450m.  Once this ships,
> we will likely look at how to do this in a form factor which is better
> suited for the smaller enclosures.
>
> -forrest
>
> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 1:18 PM, SmarterBroadband <li...@sbb.net> wrote:
>
>> Yea only one.  450M spec sheet says 80 Watts!!!  Hence this 100 watt POE.
>>
>>
>>
>> I need to see if any of the Packetflux power injectors will support 2
>> amps per channel.
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:11 PM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync
>>
>>
>>
>> That would certainly power ONE 450M. Probably not a lot more.
>>
>>
>>
>> bp
>>
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/23/2017 12:08 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
>>
>> OK SyncBox Junior works for me.
>>
>> ï¿½
>>
>> Would this power supply be OK?
>>
>> ï¿½
>>
>> http://tyconsystems.com/index.php/ac-passive-gigabit/482-tp-poe-hp-56g
>>
>> ï¿½
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> ï¿½
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>> Behalf Of *George Skorup
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 10:29 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync
>>
>> ï¿½
>>
>> The 450m uses "Cambium Sync" and I still don't know what the hell that
>> is. AFAIK, that's only the CMM5 so far. Last Mile Gear might support it, I
>> don't remember.
>>
>> That said, I know Sean has said that his 450m's are powered and receiving
>> traditional Canopy Sync from a PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync. Problem with
>> that is, you're interrupting power (the sync pulse) while trying to run a
>> 70W load (the 450m). Forrest said he's working on new stuff to support
>> Cambium Sync.
>>
>> Probably the best option right now is a SyncBox Junior Aux. Or a UGPS.
>> Enable UGPS power on the Aux port in the radio, plug it in and go. Power
>> the radio with whatever. GigE-POE-APC and a 56VDC/2A supply. A
>> PowerInjector+Sync. Or Forrest's 4-port or 8-port GigE injector boards. Or
>> hell, even his single-port GigE injector. Anything that support 4-pair
>> powering + GigE and you should be fine.
>>
>> On 3/23/2017 11:51 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
>>
>> What POEï¿½s and Sync are people using with 450M?
>>
>> ï¿½
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian>  <http://facebook.com/packetflux>
>   <http://twitter.com/@packetflux>
>
>


-- 

Carl Peterson

*PORT NETWORKS*

401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

Baltimore, MD 21202

(410) 637-3707

Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

2017-03-23 Thread Jon Langeler

Sounds like the perfect path!

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Mar 23, 2017, at 5:28 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
> <li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
> 
> The currently shipping recommendation if you want to use all packetflux gear:
> 
> PowerInjector Plus Sync, in combination with a Syncbox Junior Aux Port (seems 
> like you've already figured it out).
> 
> This also applies to the cards for the almost shipping rackinjector.
> 
> In a couple months there will also be the option of a card for the 
> rackinjector which does the new style sync for the 450m.  Once this ships, we 
> will likely look at how to do this in a form factor which is better suited 
> for the smaller enclosures.
> 
> -forrest
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 1:18 PM, SmarterBroadband <li...@sbb.net> wrote:
>> Yea only one.  450M spec sheet says 80 Watts!!!  Hence this 100 watt POE.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I need to see if any of the Packetflux power injectors will support 2 amps 
>> per channel.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Adam
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
>> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:11 PM
>> 
>> 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync
>>  
>> 
>> That would certainly power ONE 450M. Probably not a lot more.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>  
>> On 3/23/2017 12:08 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
>> 
>> OK SyncBox Junior works for me.
>> 
>> ï¿½
>> 
>> Would this power supply be OK?
>> 
>> ï¿½
>> 
>> http://tyconsystems.com/index.php/ac-passive-gigabit/482-tp-poe-hp-56g
>> 
>> ï¿½
>> 
>> Adam
>> 
>> ï¿½
>> 
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
>> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 10:29 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync
>> 
>> ï¿½
>> 
>> The 450m uses "Cambium Sync" and I still don't know what the hell that is. 
>> AFAIK, that's only the CMM5 so far. Last Mile Gear might support it, I don't 
>> remember.
>> 
>> That said, I know Sean has said that his 450m's are powered and receiving 
>> traditional Canopy Sync from a PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync. Problem with 
>> that is, you're interrupting power (the sync pulse) while trying to run a 
>> 70W load (the 450m). Forrest said he's working on new stuff to support 
>> Cambium Sync.
>> 
>> Probably the best option right now is a SyncBox Junior Aux. Or a UGPS. 
>> Enable UGPS power on the Aux port in the radio, plug it in and go. Power the 
>> radio with whatever. GigE-POE-APC and a 56VDC/2A supply. A 
>> PowerInjector+Sync. Or Forrest's 4-port or 8-port GigE injector boards. Or 
>> hell, even his single-port GigE injector. Anything that support 4-pair 
>> powering + GigE and you should be fine.
>> 
>> On 3/23/2017 11:51 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
>> 
>> What POEï¿½s and Sync are people using with 450M?
>> 
>> ï¿½
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>   
>

Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

2017-03-23 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)

The currently shipping recommendation if you want to use all packetflux
gear:

PowerInjector Plus Sync, in combination with a Syncbox Junior Aux Port
(seems like you've already figured it out).

This also applies to the cards for the almost shipping rackinjector.

In a couple months there will also be the option of a card for the
rackinjector which does the new style sync for the 450m.  Once this ships,
we will likely look at how to do this in a form factor which is better
suited for the smaller enclosures.

-forrest

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 1:18 PM, SmarterBroadband <li...@sbb.net> wrote:

> Yea only one.  450M spec sheet says 80 Watts!!!  Hence this 100 watt POE.
>
>
>
> I need to see if any of the Packetflux power injectors will support 2 amps
> per channel.
>
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:11 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync
>
>
>
> That would certainly power ONE 450M. Probably not a lot more.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
>
> On 3/23/2017 12:08 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
>
> OK SyncBox Junior works for me.
>
> ï¿½
>
> Would this power supply be OK?
>
> ï¿½
>
> http://tyconsystems.com/index.php/ac-passive-gigabit/482-tp-poe-hp-56g
>
> ï¿½
>
> Adam
>
> ï¿½
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *George Skorup
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 10:29 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync
>
> ï¿½
>
> The 450m uses "Cambium Sync" and I still don't know what the hell that is.
> AFAIK, that's only the CMM5 so far. Last Mile Gear might support it, I
> don't remember.
>
> That said, I know Sean has said that his 450m's are powered and receiving
> traditional Canopy Sync from a PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync. Problem with
> that is, you're interrupting power (the sync pulse) while trying to run a
> 70W load (the 450m). Forrest said he's working on new stuff to support
> Cambium Sync.
>
> Probably the best option right now is a SyncBox Junior Aux. Or a UGPS.
> Enable UGPS power on the Aux port in the radio, plug it in and go. Power
> the radio with whatever. GigE-POE-APC and a 56VDC/2A supply. A
> PowerInjector+Sync. Or Forrest's 4-port or 8-port GigE injector boards. Or
> hell, even his single-port GigE injector. Anything that support 4-pair
> powering + GigE and you should be fine.
>
> On 3/23/2017 11:51 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
>
> What POEï¿½s and Sync are people using with 450M?
>
> ï¿½
>
>
>



-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
<http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian>  <http://facebook.com/packetflux>
<http://twitter.com/@packetflux>

Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

2017-03-23 Thread George Skorup

The PowerInjector+Sync, the regular GigE 4 & 8 port injector as well as 
the single port GigE injector will all do 2A using 4-pair powering. 2 
pairs +, 2 pairs -, 1A per pair = 2A forward, 2A return.


On 3/23/2017 2:18 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:


Yea only one.  450M spec sheet says 80 Watts!!!  Hence this 100 watt POE.

I need to see if any of the Packetflux power injectors will support 2 
amps per channel.


Adam

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
*Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:11 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

That would certainly power ONE 450M. Probably not a lot more.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 3/23/2017 12:08 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

OK SyncBox Junior works for me.

ï¿½

Would this power supply be OK?

ï¿½

http://tyconsystems.com/index.php/ac-passive-gigabit/482-tp-poe-hp-56g

ï¿½

Adam

ï¿½

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
*Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 10:29 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

ï¿½

The 450m uses "Cambium Sync" and I still don't know what the hell
that is. AFAIK, that's only the CMM5 so far. Last Mile Gear might
support it, I don't remember.

That said, I know Sean has said that his 450m's are powered and
receiving traditional Canopy Sync from a PacketFlux
PowerInjector+Sync. Problem with that is, you're interrupting
power (the sync pulse) while trying to run a 70W load (the 450m).
Forrest said he's working on new stuff to support Cambium Sync.

Probably the best option right now is a SyncBox Junior Aux. Or a
UGPS. Enable UGPS power on the Aux port in the radio, plug it in
and go. Power the radio with whatever. GigE-POE-APC and a 56VDC/2A
supply. A PowerInjector+Sync. Or Forrest's 4-port or 8-port GigE
injector boards. Or hell, even his single-port GigE injector.
Anything that support 4-pair powering + GigE and you should be fine.

On 3/23/2017 11:51 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

What POEï¿½s and Sync are people using with 450M?

ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

Looks like the POWERINJECTOR PLUS SYNC - GIGABIT VERSION does 2 amps.

So that and a large Meanwell PSU would be one way to power 4 450M.

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

 

Yea only one.  450M spec sheet says 80 Watts!!!  Hence this 100 watt POE.

 

I need to see if any of the Packetflux power injectors will support 2 amps
per channel.

 

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

 

That would certainly power ONE 450M. Probably not a lot more.

 

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
 

On 3/23/2017 12:08 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

OK SyncBox Junior works for me.

ï¿½

Would this power supply be OK?

ï¿½

http://tyconsystems.com/index.php/ac-passive-gigabit/482-tp-poe-hp-56g

ï¿½

Adam

ï¿½

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 10:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

ï¿½

The 450m uses "Cambium Sync" and I still don't know what the hell that is.
AFAIK, that's only the CMM5 so far. Last Mile Gear might support it, I don't
remember.

That said, I know Sean has said that his 450m's are powered and receiving
traditional Canopy Sync from a PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync. Problem with
that is, you're interrupting power (the sync pulse) while trying to run a
70W load (the 450m). Forrest said he's working on new stuff to support
Cambium Sync.

Probably the best option right now is a SyncBox Junior Aux. Or a UGPS.
Enable UGPS power on the Aux port in the radio, plug it in and go. Power the
radio with whatever. GigE-POE-APC and a 56VDC/2A supply. A
PowerInjector+Sync. Or Forrest's 4-port or 8-port GigE injector boards. Or
hell, even his single-port GigE injector. Anything that support 4-pair
powering + GigE and you should be fine.

On 3/23/2017 11:51 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

What POEï¿½s and Sync are people using with 450M?

ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

Yea only one.  450M spec sheet says 80 Watts!!!  Hence this 100 watt POE.

 

I need to see if any of the Packetflux power injectors will support 2 amps
per channel.

 

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

 

That would certainly power ONE 450M. Probably not a lot more.

 

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
 

On 3/23/2017 12:08 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

OK SyncBox Junior works for me.

ï¿½

Would this power supply be OK?

ï¿½

http://tyconsystems.com/index.php/ac-passive-gigabit/482-tp-poe-hp-56g

ï¿½

Adam

ï¿½

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 10:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

ï¿½

The 450m uses "Cambium Sync" and I still don't know what the hell that is.
AFAIK, that's only the CMM5 so far. Last Mile Gear might support it, I don't
remember.

That said, I know Sean has said that his 450m's are powered and receiving
traditional Canopy Sync from a PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync. Problem with
that is, you're interrupting power (the sync pulse) while trying to run a
70W load (the 450m). Forrest said he's working on new stuff to support
Cambium Sync.

Probably the best option right now is a SyncBox Junior Aux. Or a UGPS.
Enable UGPS power on the Aux port in the radio, plug it in and go. Power the
radio with whatever. GigE-POE-APC and a 56VDC/2A supply. A
PowerInjector+Sync. Or Forrest's 4-port or 8-port GigE injector boards. Or
hell, even his single-port GigE injector. Anything that support 4-pair
powering + GigE and you should be fine.

On 3/23/2017 11:51 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

What POEï¿½s and Sync are people using with 450M?

ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

2017-03-23 Thread Bill Prince


That would certainly power ONE 450M. Probably not a lot more.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 3/23/2017 12:08 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:


OK SyncBox Junior works for me.

Would this power supply be OK?

http://tyconsystems.com/index.php/ac-passive-gigabit/482-tp-poe-hp-56g

Adam

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
*Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 10:29 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

The 450m uses "Cambium Sync" and I still don't know what the hell that 
is. AFAIK, that's only the CMM5 so far. Last Mile Gear might support 
it, I don't remember.


That said, I know Sean has said that his 450m's are powered and 
receiving traditional Canopy Sync from a PacketFlux 
PowerInjector+Sync. Problem with that is, you're interrupting power 
(the sync pulse) while trying to run a 70W load (the 450m). Forrest 
said he's working on new stuff to support Cambium Sync.


Probably the best option right now is a SyncBox Junior Aux. Or a UGPS. 
Enable UGPS power on the Aux port in the radio, plug it in and go. 
Power the radio with whatever. GigE-POE-APC and a 56VDC/2A supply. A 
PowerInjector+Sync. Or Forrest's 4-port or 8-port GigE injector 
boards. Or hell, even his single-port GigE injector. Anything that 
support 4-pair powering + GigE and you should be fine.


On 3/23/2017 11:51 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

What POEï¿½s and Sync are people using with 450M?

Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

OK SyncBox Junior works for me.

 

Would this power supply be OK?

 

http://tyconsystems.com/index.php/ac-passive-gigabit/482-tp-poe-hp-56g

 

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 10:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

 

The 450m uses "Cambium Sync" and I still don't know what the hell that is.
AFAIK, that's only the CMM5 so far. Last Mile Gear might support it, I don't
remember.

That said, I know Sean has said that his 450m's are powered and receiving
traditional Canopy Sync from a PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync. Problem with
that is, you're interrupting power (the sync pulse) while trying to run a
70W load (the 450m). Forrest said he's working on new stuff to support
Cambium Sync.

Probably the best option right now is a SyncBox Junior Aux. Or a UGPS.
Enable UGPS power on the Aux port in the radio, plug it in and go. Power the
radio with whatever. GigE-POE-APC and a 56VDC/2A supply. A
PowerInjector+Sync. Or Forrest's 4-port or 8-port GigE injector boards. Or
hell, even his single-port GigE injector. Anything that support 4-pair
powering + GigE and you should be fine.

On 3/23/2017 11:51 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

What POEï¿½s and Sync are people using with 450M?

Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

2017-03-23 Thread Darren Shea

Were using the PacketFlux SyncBox Junior Aux Port and the Cambium official
AC+DC Enhanced Power Injector. Cant remotely power-cycle, but it is
pretty stable (other than the random SM session drops).

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

 

The 450m uses "Cambium Sync" and I still don't know what the hell that is.
AFAIK, that's only the CMM5 so far. Last Mile Gear might support it, I don't
remember.

That said, I know Sean has said that his 450m's are powered and receiving
traditional Canopy Sync from a PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync. Problem with
that is, you're interrupting power (the sync pulse) while trying to run a
70W load (the 450m). Forrest said he's working on new stuff to support
Cambium Sync.

Probably the best option right now is a SyncBox Junior Aux. Or a UGPS.
Enable UGPS power on the Aux port in the radio, plug it in and go. Power the
radio with whatever. GigE-POE-APC and a 56VDC/2A supply. A
PowerInjector+Sync. Or Forrest's 4-port or 8-port GigE injector boards. Or
hell, even his single-port GigE injector. Anything that support 4-pair
powering + GigE and you should be fine.

On 3/23/2017 11:51 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

What POEï¿½s and Sync are people using with 450M?

Re: [AFMUG] 450M power and Sync

2017-03-23 Thread George Skorup

The 450m uses "Cambium Sync" and I still don't know what the hell that 
is. AFAIK, that's only the CMM5 so far. Last Mile Gear might support it, 
I don't remember.


That said, I know Sean has said that his 450m's are powered and 
receiving traditional Canopy Sync from a PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync. 
Problem with that is, you're interrupting power (the sync pulse) while 
trying to run a 70W load (the 450m). Forrest said he's working on new 
stuff to support Cambium Sync.


Probably the best option right now is a SyncBox Junior Aux. Or a UGPS. 
Enable UGPS power on the Aux port in the radio, plug it in and go. Power 
the radio with whatever. GigE-POE-APC and a 56VDC/2A supply. A 
PowerInjector+Sync. Or Forrest's 4-port or 8-port GigE injector boards. 
Or hell, even his single-port GigE injector. Anything that support 
4-pair powering + GigE and you should be fine.


On 3/23/2017 11:51 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:


What POEï¿½s and Sync are people using with 450M?

[AFMUG] 450M power and Sync