Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogist for hire in the azores
Hi John, How far did you get back with the Ataide line in Graciosa? I have a line that goes pretty far back with the Atiade's in Graciosa. Thanks, David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] NAME OF MATRIX IN SAO JORGE
Hi Maria, It is the Parish of Sao Tiago, which is in Ribeira Seca, Sao Jorge. David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] my g grandfather
Foster would most likely be Faustino in Portuguese. This was the case with my g.g.grandfather Joseph Foster (aka Jose Faustino) who was from the Island of Sao Jorge in the Azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] I.D.E.S. Fraternal Organization
After going to and talking with a few people at the UPEC (now PFSA) a few years ago,the IDES books/records are apparently in storage or basement (off-site) I believe, and last time I checked, they have not been sorted, organized or gone through. David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Miguel residents on Sao Jorge
I had a similar situation come up with my 3x g.grandather Antonio Silveira Costa and his wife Rosa Silveira. They lived in Ribeira Seca, Sao Jorge, but he was actually from Arrifes, Sao Miguel, while she was from Sao Jorge. Turns out that Antonio's father Joao da Costa and his family, and even mother came over from Sao Miguel to Sao Jorge at somepoint, and story was he was an engineer or someone who got a job was helping build a road on Sao Jorge. I was able to find the birth recs on Sao Miguel which was nice. I also found their death recs on Sao Jorge confirming they were from Sao Miguel originally. David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Freitas Mendonca Flores ancestors
Hi Wendy, from my maternal grandfather's paternal line I have a Joao Antonio de Freitas Mendonca from Lajes on Flores. He was born 1812 and died 1868. His parents were Manuel de Freitas Mendonca, born 1785 Fajazinha, Flores and died 1853. His wife was Maria de Sao Jose. Manuel's parents were Jose Mendonca, born 1757 in Fajazinha, Flores, and died 1807, and Ana de Freitas, born 1766 in Fajazinha, Flores. This is where the Mendonca line switches to the Island of Corvo. Jose Mendonca's parents were Antonio de Mendonca, born 1727 on Corvo and died 1786 in Fajazinha, Flores, and Francisca Roiz, born 1731 in Fajazinha,Flores. Ana de Freitas (wife of Jose Mendonca) parents were Francisco Jose and Esperanca de Freitas, both from Fajazinha, Flores. Do you have any of these names in your tree? Also, does your Mendonca or Freitas line link to the Island of Corvo? I believe the furthest I could go back on the Mendonca line was with Gaspar de Mendonca, born abt 1630 in Corvo and died 1689 in Corvo, and his wife Barbara Roiz,born abt 1640 in Corvo and died 1692 in Corvo. Thanks, David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] 1749 Death Record in Calheta States Origin as Graciosa
sorry, death was 1745, so birth was about 1665. David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] 1749 Death Record in Calheta States Origin as Graciosa
Hi Jeremey, Looks like he was 80 years old "more or less" at time of death, making his birth about 1669. It does mention Graciosa in the margin note, but not sure if he was from there. Do you have a marriage record? there is a better chance it states where he was from. If he was from Graciosa, there are only 4 freguesias (santa cruz, guadalupe, sao matheus, and Luz. David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] California Portuguese Fraternal organizations
The PFSA (Formerly the UPEC) has the original UPEC records in their office (separate from the JA Freitas Library in the same building) in San Leandro. I have been many times and they have let me look through the records and take pictures of the pages I was interested in. I also talked to them a while back and they said they have the IDES records in their storage facility somewhere, however they were unable and inside when they could access or get them..although I did volunteer to help find and organize them for them. David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder My Origins Question - Azores & Finland/Northen Siberia
I was looking at my Uncle's Family Finder My Origins results map and was curious about how he has 4% from Finland and Northern Siberia. I am not sure where that would have come from. He is Portuguese on both sides (Azores on one half and Madeira on other). Obviously there were Azorean settlers who originally came from all over Europe, such as Italy, Germany, Flanders (Silveira), Spain, so I imagine that someone could have come from that far north in Finland/Northern Sibeiria and their descendants eventually made it to the Azores. Does anyone else or their family have Finland/Northern Siberian results from Azorean ancestry? I do have a few pai incongnitos in the records from the Azores, so it could come from that as well. Any ideas or thoughts or ideas would be helpful. Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches with people of Puerto Rican Ancestry
Hi all, I thought I would try and revive this topic of Puerto Rican matches to Azorean ancestry on FTDNA Family Finder. My Uncle's DNA recently came back and I have been trying to sift through his matches. His maternal side is from Madeira, but his Paternal side is from the Azores. It appears that he has approximately *20* matches with people from Puerto Rico. I have been in contact with 2 of the matches, and both don't have ancestry beyond Puerto Rico. Of the few trees that are on FTDNA, they all still only have lines going back to the beginning of the 1800's in Puerto Rico. I was interested in everyone's thoughts about where the Azores to Puerto Rico connection comes into play. It must be back at least into the 1700's. Several of the matches are in the 3rd-5th Cousin range and the highest is approximately 51cM with a longest block of 18cM (2nd-4th cousin estimated range). One of the individuals my Uncle matches with the I have corresponded also stated that an oral history suggested that his mother's paternal side (Mercado) came from the Canary Islands in the late 1700's. This may help connect the idea what Doug was saying is the link from the Azores to Puerto Rico. Any insights would be greatly appreciated. David On Friday, July 18, 2014 at 6:40:39 PM UTC-7, A Faria wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > I have been looking at my father's family finder matches he has one match > of Puerto Rican ancestry. Is anyone else getting matches with Puerto Rican > ancestry? I have read that there was some Azorean immigration to Puerto > Rico during the Iberian Union about 1580-1640. > > Antonio > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: IN RELVA; Joao da Costa X Anna Miz
Hi Maria, I have this couple Joao da Costa and Anna Martins in my family tree also. They are my 7th great grandparents. Joao da Costa was born about 1673, but the baptismal records either don't go back that far or are missing for those few years. Anna Martins was born about 1676 and she died 18 Nov 1726 in Relva. For the parents of Joao da Costa, I have Manuel da Costa and Isabel Martins. For the parents of Anna Martins, I have Gaspar Rodrigues and Maria Martins. I also have the marriage record for Gaspar Rodrigues and Maria: It was 3 May 1666 in Nossa Senhora da Candeias, Candelaria, Sao Miguel. The parents of Gaspar Rodrigues are Pedro Rodrigues adn Margarida Goncalves. The parents of Maria Martins are Andre Goncalves and Maria Goncalves. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CANDELARIA-C-1551-1681/SMG-PD-CANDELARIA-C-1551-1681_item1/P65.html The marriage record for Pedro Rodrigues and Margarida Goncalves is 6 Apr 1622 in Nossa Senhora da Candeias, Candelaria, Sao Miguel. Parents of Pedro Rodrigues are Joao Velho and (unknown), and parents of Margarida Goncalves are Gaspar Rodrigues and Maria Calvo. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CANDELARIA-C-1551-1681/SMG-PD-CANDELARIA-C-1551-1681_item1/P43.html Anyways, what child are you descended from of the couple Joao da Costa and Anna Martins? I am from their second child Manuel da Costa who was born 6 Nov 1697. He was married to Theresa de Sousa on 23 Apr 1729 in Relva. It would be nice to hear from you so we can exchange info on this family. You can email me off-list if you want. Thanks, David On Monday, March 28, 2016 at 8:59:55 AM UTC-7, Maria wrote: > > Can someone verify that I read this right, pls? Is the last name of the > groom's mother Martins(?) the same as the bride's mother(?). (Maybe they > were cousins but there's nothing about "consanguinidad". > > Also, is Anna's father named Gaspar Reis (?). Not certain about his last > name. There's a witness named Goncalvo da Costa. > > It looks like I've gotten to the earliest records for this family. Says > they were from "Nos Campinos". Does that mean the outskirts, the country, > as rural as it could be back then? > > Thank you so much for taking a look. > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1673-1708/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1673-1708_item1/P38.html > > > Maria Elena -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Rec. interpretation - Ribeiras, Pico - Jose - 14 Apr 1743
I think that this may be the baptismal record for one of my ancestors I am looking for, but am not sure. Based on the marriage record of Jose with his wife Maria de Encarnacao from Ribeira Seca Sao Jorge, his parents are listed as Joao Luis Goulart and Luiza Silveira from Ribeiras, Pico. Does this baptismal record look like it could be the correct one? It looks like the father Joao Luis is a native of the Island of ?? Record is on bottom left: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-RIBEIRAS-B-1732-1749/PIC-LJ-RIBEIRAS-B-1732-1749_item1/P87.html Also, here is the marriage record of Jose Silveira Luis and Maria Encarnacao from Ribeira Seca, Sao Jorge, giving the parents names. Record is on left side of page: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1764-1803/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1764-1803_item1/P27.html Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Records Florenca and Manuel - Corvo
There are two baptismal records I would like an opinion on. One is the probable record for my direct ancestor Florenca Maria, born 22 Mar 1774 in Corvo to a Maria de Fraga Nunes. Baptismal record for Florenca: Left side, top record; http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/COR-VC-VILANOVADOCORVO-B-1742-1779/COR-VC-VILANOVADOCORVO-B-1742-1779_item1/P121.html Baptismal record for Manuel: Right side, middle record; http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/COR-VC-VILANOVADOCORVO-B-1742-1779/COR-VC-VILANOVADOCORVO-B-1742-1779_item1/P139.html What I would like to know is if this other baptismal record for a Manuel, born 14 Dec 1777 in Corvo to a Maria de Fraga is the same mother or a different person? In other words, are the Florenca and Manuel siblings? If it is the same mother, it would be very helpful, because it gives the grandparents names for Manuel unlike in the record for Florenca where it does not. Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with last name needed
Different spelling but looks like Conseipsam (Conception) or in modern spelling concepção -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation of faint document
The bottom right marriage record states marriage was on 7 Jan 1697, in the church of Santo Amaro, Island of Pico. Husband is Diogo Franca? something..(hard to read-based on sidenote) and can't tell wife's name. The record is incomplete because it should continue on the next page, however the record on the next page seems to be a different marriage record, so there must be a page or pages missing from this book, because the record on the next page is the marriage for an Antonio Goularte and an Anna Vieira. The middle marriage record above (relating to your friends family) is a completely different record, and the date is 28 Nov 1696. David On Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 3:23:33 PM UTC-8, Suzanne Edvalson wrote: > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SANTOAMARO-C-1637-1697/PIC-SR-SANTOAMARO-C-1637-1697_item1/P42.html > > (bottom right side of page) > > Hello. Can someone please read and tell me what the above marriage > document is saying. > > The middle marriage belongs to my friend's family and gives a marriage > date of 28 Nov 1696. Uminho (Cit-Cem) says the marriage is 7 Jan 1697. > She'd like to know which is correct, and if this paragraph under the > document is a correction, and if so, why? > > Thank you. > Suzanne > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] more help
Yes, date looks right. From side note husbands name is Manuel Silveira. Within actual record, husbands name looks like Manuel da Jose? Age at death was 45. It doesn't look like Parents are listed. Usually during that time parents aren't usually listed, and are only listed if it is a child's or young adult death rec. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with names and date: Pico baptism
Yes, birth date is 20th. I think I looked at the record above on that one..lol -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with names and date: Pico baptism
Father is Domingos Homem and mother is Agueda Rosa. Date of birth looks like 10 Sep 1716, and was baptized on 27th of same month. Godparents look like they are Capitao Manuel Machado De Sousa and Agueda? Vieira, wife of Francisco Vieira Cardoso. David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Vieira (Fernandes) Ferro & Victoria da Cunha - Calheta, Sao Jorge, Azores
Hi Rosemarie, I sent you an email. Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Vieira (Fernandes) Ferro & Victoria da Cunha - Calheta, Sao Jorge, Azores
Does anybody have the couple of Manuel Vieira Fernandes Ferro and Victoria da Cunha from Calheta, Sao Jorge in their tree. I am trying to confirm if they are the correct parents from two of my ancestors: Maria da Cunha and Francisco da Cunha Ferro. I have been able to use the records to get back to Francisco da Cunha Ferro and Maria da Cunha, but cannot find any primary sources or genealogias that state their parents are in-fact Manuel Vieira Ferro and Victoria da Cunha. There are other children listed for Manuel Vieira Fernandes Ferro and Victoria da Cunha: Apolonia da Cunha and Antonio da Cunha, but not the ones I am looking for. Some people have all the different children listed in their trees on ancestor, but no sources listed, so I cannot use any of that info. Francisco da Cunha Ferro was married to Luzia Pereira da Borba, and Maria da Cunha was married to Gaspar Goncalves de Quadros. Any info would be helpful. David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MT DNA U5 from Candelaria, Pico
My mtdna just came back and I am U5a2a1. My maternal lineage is from Madeira island. I wonder how common/uncommon the U5 haplotype is on Madeira as compared to the Azores... David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Eduardo, born 1879, Flores to Merced, California
Here appears to be the correct family: This is a baptismal record for a Jose, born 27 Jun 1903 in Fazajinha to a Jose Valladao Eduardo and Maria Jose Corvelho. It looks like they might not have been married based on the record. Record is on right side at bottom of page, no. 6 and on next page on top left. http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1891-1910/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1891-1910_item1/P102.html http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1891-1910/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1891-1910_item1/P103.html Maybe the birthdays of Joseph and Tony were mixed up. David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Resource for early Portuguese Info and People relating to the Kingdom of Britain
Hi John, Yes, I have noticed the spelling seems to vary quite a bit both within the Portuguese records themselves and in other non-Portuguese records (English etc..). I have seen Ataide, de Ataide, Athayde, D'Atayde, D'Ataide, of Tayde, etc.. Where do your Atayde's come from again? Mine were from Graciosa mostly. David On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 10:26:46 AM UTC-8, John Athayde wrote: > > David - > > Do you find the name often showing up as “of Tayde” or similar anglicized > forms? I’ve only seen “Ataíde” “Athaide”and “Athayde” with/without the “de” > in front of it (the last “de Athayde" shows up with my great great > grandmother on the Azores). > > Cheers, > John > > On Sep 22, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Kawika322 <oldsc...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > I was searching for info on one of my ancestors Galas Viegas de Ataide and > came across this British History Online website. > > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ > > My ancestor and other individuals were mentioned in: > > Calendar of State Papers Foreign, Elizabeth, Volume 16, May-December 1582. > Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1909. > > > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-state-papers/foreign/vol16/pp456-477 > > The letter, which was from the Calendar of State papers in 1582 talks > about a group of Portuguese who had a run-in with an English Pirate Thomas > Kem who robbed a Portuguese ship going from Portugal to Brazil. He then > took the well-armed vessel into the port of Angra. > > A group of Portuguese/Azoreans then (at somepoint) gave testimony about > what they had heard and seen by the English pirate... > > Anyways, there are some other articles and letters that talk about > Portuguese related activities on the British History Online website.. > > Just wanted to share, and maybe someone will find something interesting > relating to their ancestors, or about the Portuguese back in that time > period. > > David > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com . > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Melchior (Belchior) Coelho Borges and Ursula Coelho - Terceira, Azores
I recently was able to extend my Terceira line a generation or two with help of the Terceira marriage Index (thanks to all involved who worked on it btw), and I came across some ancestors that I was hoping others might have some info on, or a connection to. (I saw some old posts regarding them and how a few people on the list were related)... Melchior Coelho Borges and Ursula Coelho of Porto Judeu were the parents of Ines Fernandes, who was one of my direct ancestors. She was married to Manuel Nunes Pereira. I wanted to see if anyone had anything further back than Melchior Coelho Borges and Ursula Coelho? I found something from a post and someones genealogy page that stated the parents of Ursula Coelho were Pedro Goncalves Linhares and Justa Coelho, and the parents of Melchior Coelho Borges were Antonio Fernandes da Costa and Mecia Coelho, however no sources were listed. I would like to look at the actual sources if possible. I scanned through a bit of the genealogias de Terceira by Coelho Borges, and the Fenix Angrense by Manuel Luis Maldanado and found an Ursula Coelho who was married to Melchior Coelho Borges. The parents of Urusula are listed as Gaspar Goncalves Linhares and Justa Coelho. Are these the correct individuals? and if so, is it Gaspar or Pedro Goncalves Linhares? Any additional info would be greatly appreciated..what other sources are there etc..?..since the church records do not go back that far in that freguesia. Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Julia Louisa de Silveira, born 1861, no location
Hi Julie, What city/state did your ancestor immigrate, and about what year?. Also, did she get married here in the US or in the Azores? What was the husbands name? All this can help find the island she was from, looking at passenger lists, passport records, and marriage records which could give her parents names. David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for my family in Flores Azores
Do you happen to have more information, such as the year he immigrated to the Chatham Islands, New Zealand?, his death record?, his marriage record?, possible naturalization record?..These could help give hints as to his parents names..It would be difficult to search and scan through all the Flores birth records looking for a Jose without knowing the parents names. If you have a more specific date of birth that would help a little bit. Right now the Azores archives website is down so it would be difficult to search till it is back online. Is this the correct marriage record index for your gg grandfather Joseph Dix from 1873?: https://bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search.aspx?Path=%2fqueryEntry.m%3ftype%3dmarriages#SearchResults if it is the correct record, it appears you can order the record..and maybe it would give the parents names. Also, from Ancestry.com, here appears to be Joseph Dix's death record index: Name:Joseph DixDeath Date:Jan-Feb-Mar 1897Registration Place:Chatham Islands, Auckland, New ZealandFolio Number:579 Maybe it is possible to order the record which may yield some info.. David On Sunday, October 18, 2015 at 9:12:41 PM UTC-7, jean Edmondson wrote: > > My Great, Great Grandfather was Joseph Dix ( Diaz ) born in 1833 in Flores > Azores, but I do not know the name of his Mother and Father and would love > to find out. > Joseph worked on a whaling ship. He jumped ship and stay on the Chatham > Islands. > I would like to know the name of the ship he worked on and also find out > the names of his parents. > Can anyone help me. > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interpretation of Baptismal Record for Claudia, daughter of Florencia - Ponta Delgada, Flores 1806
Hi João, Thank you for all of the info as well. It is interesting how this family line produced several connections. I also have a Family Finder match who is descended from Maria Coelho (sister of Pedro Jose de Avelar (my direct ancestor), and of Faustino Jose de Avelar. I was thinking, there has to be a connection with the name surname Avelar that give a clue as to who the father of Pedro Jose, Faustino Jose, Monica Coelho and Maria de Jesus are. Their mother, Florencia Rosa, doesn't seem to be connected with the Avelar surname, so it is probably from the father. There are a couple individuals who may be the father from the town, but obviously I couldn't say for sure. In terms of tracking down Florencia, hopefully I will be able to find her death record, as well as the death record of her mother Maria Coelho a.k.a. Maria de Fraga Nunes. Would you guess that Maria de Fraga Nunes also came over from Corvo to Flores? David On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 8:16:21 AM UTC-7, João Ventura wrote: > > David, > > This is all amazing information. Thanks a lot! You're related to wife as > you can see in this relationship diagram from her to Florencia Rosa: > > > http://venturas.org/familytree/relationship.php?ged=venturas=I5=I152 > > This is all I know about her (and her children): > > http://venturas.org/familytree/family.php?famid=F60=venturas > > In this case I think that Maria de Fraga Nunes is also Maria Coelho. Women > didn't really have surnames at the time, and they basically had their > parents surnames or a religious one. > > Such a lousy time for the CCA site to be offline.. > > João C. Ventura > http://tombo.pt/en > > On Tuesday, 6 October 2015 00:38:58 UTC+2, Kawika322 wrote: >> >> Eric, >> >> I found the death record for Maria de Jesus - one of the other children >> of Florencia. It states that Florencia was a native of Corvo. Top right, >> No. 12 >> >> >> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-O-1860-1870/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-O-1860-1870_item1/P83.html >> >> I have look through quite a few records and yet to find death record of >> Florencia, however I looked for her baptismal record (in Corvo) and the >> only thing I could find was this record: Left side, top record. >> >> >> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/COR-VC-VILANOVADOCORVO-B-1742-1779/COR-VC-VILANOVADOCORVO-B-1742-1779_item1/P121.html >> >> The mother is listed as Maria de Fraga Nunes, and in the other records of >> Florencia's children, the mother of Florencia is listed as Maria Coelho, so >> I am not sure if this is the right one. However, it seems from looking >> through all the records, this is the only Florencia born on Corvo during >> the appropriate time frame to a single mother, so it very well could be the >> right one. >> >> If you could let me know what you think it would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> >> David >> >> On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 9:17:06 AM UTC-7, luiznoia wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Here's a Santa Cruz, Flores marriage record of a Monica : >>> >>> >>> João Pimentel Canhoto [f.º de Manuel Pimentel Canhoto e de Inácia >>> Rosa] c. 1816.08.12 c. Mónica Coelho [n. Ponta Delgada, Santa Cruz das >>> Flores, f.ª de pai incógnito e de Florência Rosa]. >>> >>> >>> *If it's the same as in the baptism record, she'd be 20 yrs old* >>> >>> >>> Here's Pedro Jose de Avelar's marriage record from Lajes das Flores: >>> >>> Pedro José de Avelar [n. Ponta Delgada, Santa Cruz das Flores, f.º de >>> pai incógnito e de Florência Maria] c. 1813.02.18 c. Úrsula Joaquina [f.ª >>> de pai incógnito e de Isabel Maria]. >>> >>> *If it was the same Pedro in the baptism record, he would be 20 years >>> old* >>> >>> >>> >>> Here are marriage records of children of Florencia a single woman from >>> Ponta Delgada, Flores >>> >>> Faustino José de Avelar [f.º de pai incógnito e de Florência, mulher >>> solteira] c. 1813.10.31 c. Úrsula Maria [f.ª de Joaquim de Sousa e de >>> Mariana de Jesus]. >>> >>> *I think this is the brother to Pedro Jose de Avelar* >>> >>> >>> José Álvares [f.º de Manuel Álvares, j. d., e de Mariana de Jesus] c. >>> 1813.11.25 c. Maria de Jesus [f.ª de pai incógnito e de Florência, mulher >>> solteira]. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Eric Edgar >>> >>> >>
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: There is a new Gedmatch.com calculator MDLP K12 Utimate
Here is mine: My maternal side is Portuguese My paternal side is mostly German and north German, and some English. David *Admix Results (sorted):* *#**Population**Percent*1ENF42.932WHG-UHG21.553ANE18.114Caucas-Gedrosia9.945 NearEast5.336Subsaharian1.97Amerindian0.24 *Single Population Sharing:* *#**Population (source)**Distance*1Occitan3.952France4.733Swiss4.844 Germany_South6.175Austria6.586Belgian6.587South-German6.818Italy-Friul7.179 Croatian7.410Austrian7.4311Croat_BH7.4912Portugese7.5313Welsh7.5814Hungary 7.6315Spanish7.7916Bosnian7.8317Slovenian7.9318North_European8.1919 Serbian_Serbia8.2520French8.28 *Mixed Mode Population Sharing:* *#* *Primary Population (source)**Secondary Population (source)**Distance*1 74.4%English_Cornwall_GBR+25.6%Libyan_Jew@1.372 74.4%English_Cornwall_GBR+ 25.6%Tunisian_Jew@1.693 71.1%English_Cornwall_GBR+28.9%Moroccan_Jew@1.734 68.1%Portugese+31.9%Vepsa@1.795 78.7%English_GBR+21.3%Libyan_Jew@1.816 66.9% Portugese+33.1%Russian_Smolensk@1.897 72%English_Cornwall_GBR+28% Algerian_Jewish@1.898 66%Portugese+34%Don_cossack@1.99 73.3%English_Kent_GBR +26.7%Libyan_Jew@1.9110 58.5%Portugese+41.5%Slovak@1.9211 69.1%Portugese+ 30.9%Russian@1.9812 58.1%Portugese+41.9%German@1.9913 66%Portugese+34% Russian_Voronezh@1.9914 68.2%Portugese+31.8%Center-Russian@215 88.4% Germany_South+11.6%Burbur_WGA@216 66.2%Portugese+33.8%East-Belarusian@2.0217 70.7%English_Cornwall_GBR+29.3%Italian_Jew@2.0718 50.4%Portugese+49.6% Hungary@2.0819 65.9%Portugese+34.1%Russian_Kursk@2.120 69.8%English_Kent_GBR +30.2%Moroccan_Jew@2.1 On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 8:41:51 PM UTC-7, A Faria wrote: > > This is the first calculator that correctly identified Portuguese as the > single population that my DNA most closely approximates most of the other > calculators attribute various regions of Spain for my results. > > My ancestry is 100% from the Azores islands please post your results for > comparison. > > > MDLP K13 Ultimate Oracle results:MDLP K13 'Ultimate' Oracle > > > *Admix Results (sorted):* > > *#**Population**Percent*1ENF44.932WHG-UHG18.043Caucas-Gedrosia13.794ANE > 11.525NearEast8.356Subsaharian2.297Paleo-African1.088Arctic0.01 > *Single Population Sharing:* > > *#**Population (source)**Distance**1**Portugese**3.6*2Italian_Bergamo6.073 > Swiss6.24Occitan6.255Italy-Friul6.56Spanish6.517Italy_North7.048Spain7.119 > Italian_Piedmont7.4510Corsican7.8511Spanish_Baleares_IBS8.1412France9.4313 > Italian_Tuscan9.7514Montenegro9.9415Spanish_IBS10.0216Spanish_Iberian10.02 > 17Spanish_Extremadura_IBS10.0518Spanish_Galicia_IBS10.3619Kosovo10.6520 > Spanish_Canarias_IBS10.67 > *Mixed Mode Population Sharing:* > > *#* *Primary Population (source)**Secondary Population (source)**Distance* > *1* *87.8%**Spanish**+**12.2%**Yemenite_Jew**@**1.82*2 51.2% > Spanish_Canarias_IBS+48.8%Bulgaria@1.833 79.4%Portugese+20.6%Albanian@1.85 > 4 81.5%Portugese+18.5%Greek_Comas@1.855 55.2%Spanish_Canarias_IBS+44.8% > Gagauz@1.856 95.5%Portugese+4.5%Armenian_WGA@1.887 86.1%Portugese+13.9% > Greek_WGA@1.98 52.8%Spanish_Canarias_IBS+47.2%Bulgarian@1.949 87%Spanish+ > 13%BedouinA@1.9410 96%Portugese+4%Georgian_WGA@2.0111 83.2%Portugese+16.8% > South_Greek@2.0312 96%Portugese+4%Georgian_Megrel@2.0313 51.7% > Spanish_Canarias_IBS+48.3%Macedonian@2.0414 78%Portugese+22%Kosovo@2.0715 > 89.4%Portugese+10.6%Greek_Coriell@2.0716 84.1%Portugese+15.9%North_Greek@ > 2.117 69.7%Portugese+30.3%Italy_North@2.1118 88.7%Portugese+11.3% > Italian_South@2.1219 83.7%Portugese+16.3%Greek@2.1320 70.6%French+29.4% > Libyan_Jew@2.14 > > > > > > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interpretation of Baptismal Record for Claudia, daughter of Florencia - Ponta Delgada, Flores 1806
Eric, I found the death record for Maria de Jesus - one of the other children of Florencia. It states that Florencia was a native of Corvo. Top right, No. 12 http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-O-1860-1870/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-O-1860-1870_item1/P83.html I have look through quite a few records and yet to find death record of Florencia, however I looked for her baptismal record (in Corvo) and the only thing I could find was this record: Left side, top record. http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/COR-VC-VILANOVADOCORVO-B-1742-1779/COR-VC-VILANOVADOCORVO-B-1742-1779_item1/P121.html The mother is listed as Maria de Fraga Nunes, and in the other records of Florencia's children, the mother of Florencia is listed as Maria Coelho, so I am not sure if this is the right one. However, it seems from looking through all the records, this is the only Florencia born on Corvo during the appropriate time frame to a single mother, so it very well could be the right one. If you could let me know what you think it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, David On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 9:17:06 AM UTC-7, luiznoia wrote: > > > > > Here's a Santa Cruz, Flores marriage record of a Monica : > > > João Pimentel Canhoto [f.º de Manuel Pimentel Canhoto e de Inácia > Rosa] c. 1816.08.12 c. Mónica Coelho [n. Ponta Delgada, Santa Cruz das > Flores, f.ª de pai incógnito e de Florência Rosa]. > > > *If it's the same as in the baptism record, she'd be 20 yrs old* > > > Here's Pedro Jose de Avelar's marriage record from Lajes das Flores: > > Pedro José de Avelar [n. Ponta Delgada, Santa Cruz das Flores, f.º de > pai incógnito e de Florência Maria] c. 1813.02.18 c. Úrsula Joaquina [f.ª > de pai incógnito e de Isabel Maria]. > > *If it was the same Pedro in the baptism record, he would be 20 years old* > > > > Here are marriage records of children of Florencia a single woman from > Ponta Delgada, Flores > > Faustino José de Avelar [f.º de pai incógnito e de Florência, mulher > solteira] c. 1813.10.31 c. Úrsula Maria [f.ª de Joaquim de Sousa e de > Mariana de Jesus]. > > *I think this is the brother to Pedro Jose de Avelar* > > > José Álvares [f.º de Manuel Álvares, j. d., e de Mariana de Jesus] c. > 1813.11.25 c. Maria de Jesus [f.ª de pai incógnito e de Florência, mulher > solteira]. > > > > > Eric Edgar > > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 8:38 AM, luiznoia . <nobla...@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> I think that tracking down Florencia's baptism record , obit, or the >> marriage record of either Pedro or Monica could provide some confirmation. >> I tend to think it is the same mother. >> >> The 1792 to 1806 time frame would easily be in childbearing years. It is >> also a time when many people left Corvo to settle in Flores. My ancestor , >> Joao Antonio Vieira was born to a single mother in Corvo in 1789 >> >> and settled in Cedros by 1810. >> >> Slavery had been abolished in Continental Portugal in 1761, in Madeira >> in 1775, and by 1800 was on the wane in the Azores, being banned in 1830. >> >> >> The priest in the Claudia record of 1806, and the Monica record of 1796 >> is Domingo Bernardo da Sylvera >> >> The priest in the Pedro record of 1792 is Antonio Lourenco Coelho >> >> Eric Edgar >> >> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 5:15 AM, Theresa Entin <ten...@fullchannel.net >> > wrote: >> >>> Hi Depending on how common the name Florencia appears in the records >>> during that time frame of 13 years would determine to me if it was the same >>> person. If it appears as a very uncommon name, then I would say they were >>> the same person. >>> >>> Also, In order to make a good determination, I would check ten years >>> prior to the birth of Pedro and 10 years after the birth of Claudia. >>> >>> Were you able to find the birth of Florencia, child of Maria in Corvo? >>> If Maria was also a slave, that would help solving the puzzle. >>> >>> >>> On Sep 30, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Kawika322 <oldsc...@gmail.com > >>> wrote: >>> >>> There is a baptismal record I would like to have people's interpretation >>> on. The record is for a Claudia born 7 Jul 1806 in Sao Pedro, Ponta >>> Delgada, Flores. The mother is names Florencia, and I am trying to see if >>> she may be the same Florencia who is the mother of my direct ancestor Pedro >>> Jose Avellar who was born in 1793 in Ponta Delgada, Flores. I don't have >>> any more info on Florencia such as a birth or d
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interpretation of Baptismal Record for Claudia, daughter of Florencia - Ponta Delgada, Flores 1806
Thanks for all the input everyone. I will have to do more searching. Eric, thanks for checking those records. I had Pedro's, Monica's, and Faustino's marriage recs but not the one for Maria de Jesus. I haven't been able to find a birth rec for Faustino and will have to look for the one for Maria de Jesus, since I didn't know she existed. As for Florencia, I still need to find her birth and death recs. I looked through that long obit and she wasn't mentioned. Also, why we're people moving from Corvo to Flores? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Interpretation of Baptismal Record for Claudia, daughter of Florencia - Ponta Delgada, Flores 1806
There is a baptismal record I would like to have people's interpretation on. The record is for a Claudia born 7 Jul 1806 in Sao Pedro, Ponta Delgada, Flores. The mother is names Florencia, and I am trying to see if she may be the same Florencia who is the mother of my direct ancestor Pedro Jose Avellar who was born in 1793 in Ponta Delgada, Flores. I don't have any more info on Florencia such as a birth or death record, except that her mother's name is Maria Coelho from Corvo, which I got from the baptismal records of her children Pedro and Monica. If this is the same Florencia, her other children Pedro, and Monica, as well as a Faustino (whom I cannot find a birth record for) all had pai incognito fathers. This particular record may have additional information that could help me track down Florencia (if indeed it is the same woman). Any info or translation of what exactly the record says would be helpful. It is the record on the top right of the page: *Claudia*, no. 14: http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1758-1813/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1758-1813_item1/P209.html The links for the baptismal records for my direct ancestor Pedro Jose Avellar and his sister Monica Coelho (children of Florencia) are also below so that people can compare and see if they might be the same Florencia or not. *Pedro *(1793) : top right of page, no. 20: http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1758-1813/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1758-1813_item1/P146.html *Monica *(1796)*: *middle record, left side of page, no. 17 http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1758-1813/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1758-1813_item1/P158.html Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Resource for early Portuguese Info and People relating to the Kingdom of Britain
I was searching for info on one of my ancestors Galas Viegas de Ataide and came across this British History Online website. http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ My ancestor and other individuals were mentioned in: Calendar of State Papers Foreign, Elizabeth, Volume 16, May-December 1582. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1909. http://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-state-papers/foreign/vol16/pp456-477 The letter, which was from the Calendar of State papers in 1582 talks about a group of Portuguese who had a run-in with an English Pirate Thomas Kem who robbed a Portuguese ship going from Portugal to Brazil. He then took the well-armed vessel into the port of Angra. A group of Portuguese/Azoreans then (at somepoint) gave testimony about what they had heard and seen by the English pirate... Anyways, there are some other articles and letters that talk about Portuguese related activities on the British History Online website.. Just wanted to share, and maybe someone will find something interesting relating to their ancestors, or about the Portuguese back in that time period. David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: An original settler of Sao Miguel in RR's book
Hi, I might suggest looking at the various volumes by Gaspar Frutuoso's Saudades da Terra. Some of his info should go further back than the RR book. David On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 7:34:15 PM UTC-7, manita.morgado wrote: > > Hello, > > Here is a question for those of you who have been able to research as far > back to an original settler of Sao Miguel. I have a few branches on my > tree where I have an original settler by way of connecting my ancestors to > RR's book on Sao Miguel. > > How do you now take the leap from Sao Miguel, Azores to the mainland? > > What do I need to do? What advice would you give? > > Now having said all that, because I have connected to the original > settlers via RR's book, it begs another question that may negate my > question above to a certain extent: because we know some of the original > settlers via RR's book, I would suspect that the research of figuring out > where those people came from before arriving in Sao Miguel has already been > done. No? How does one go about finding the records prior to arriving in > Sao Miguel? > > Looking forward to your guidance and thoughts on this. > > Thank you! > > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Obit of Manuel Jose Cordeiro, 1814, Sao Matheus da Praia, Graciosa
Hi Bill, It appears that all of the other obitos on this and the surrounding pages are structured the same way where this particular priest (Vigaro Francisco Jose de Bect*?) only listed the deceased individual as single, married or widowed, and did not list either the parents or surviving or deceased spouse. Do you have more info on your Manuel Jose Cordeiro (children, spouse etc)?, or were you just looking for details from the death record? You can scan the pages after and try and find the spouse when she died and maybe there is more info hopefully if the same priest did not record the death. Also, you are correct with his age at death is 68 more or less (Secenta e oito (68), and not Setenta e oito (78). David On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 at 12:52:14 PM UTC-7, bsei...@gmail.com wrote: This obit is a different format than I am used to, especially in that it doesn't seem to give any familial names (spouse or parents). I can't make out most of it but it seems to be mostly about the parish, the Sacraments, and the burial. I do see that he was married, a resident of that parish, and 68 years old (more or less). Is there any other information I am missing in the body or side notations? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-O-1809-1818/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-O-1809-1818_item1/P23.html (bottom left record) Bill Seidler -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Finding my great grandfather
I am pretty sure that the census record that I posted may be your correct family because I did a look-up on Familysearch.org under Hawaii Births and Christenings 1852-1933, and found this entry for a son Vincent, born 1899: Name:Vincent Monseba RodriguesGender:MaleChristening Place:HawaiiBirth Date:07 Jun 1899Birthplace:Mokapu, Oahu, HawaiiFather's Name:Joseph Rodrigues https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FWSG-PQDMother's Name:Emily Furtado https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FWSG-PQ6 Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C74440-9 https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20query=+batch_number:C74440-9 , System Origin: Hawaii-VR , GS Film number: 1031621 https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20query=%2Bfilm_number%3A1031621 , Reference ID: Cert. No. 44610 The mother's name Emily Furtado should be a match to your Amelia Furtado. Anyways, hope this helps so far.. David On Thursday, April 23, 2015 at 2:26:27 PM UTC-7, suchislife55 wrote: Hi All, I just joined this group today. My great grandfathers name is Joseph Monseba (or variation) Rodrigues. We are trying to find his family, with no avail. All he told his children was that he was from Flores Horta and that he left the Azores on a whaling ship and when it arrived in Hawaii he jumped ship.His son, my grandfather would say his father was the black sheep of the family. That is all we know. Not even family knows more than that!! So I'm thinking he ran away.that is why he did not talk. His birth year is 1952. I have seen trees that say 1955. He died in Hawaii on Jan. 29, 1919. He married Amelia Furtado in Hawaii. Does anybody know anything or where I could look for information? It would be greatly appreciated! Thank You Gloria Arlette Rodrigues email: suchis...@gmail.com javascript: -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Finding my great grandfather
Here are two marriage records of the children of Joseph Rodrigues and Amelia Furtado. The first is for a Adelaide Rodrigues born 1898 (Lyda in 1900 Census). The second is for Vincent Rodrigues I found them on Familysearch.org under Hawaii Marriages 1826-1922: Name:Joseph W. Schebler https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FW89-YT5Birth Date:1900Age:21Spouse's Name:Adelaida Rodrigues https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FW89-YTLSpouse's Birth Date:1898Spouse's Age:23Event Date:28 May 1921Event Place:Honolulu, Honolulu, HawaiiFather's Name:Charles W. Schebler https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FW89-YTRMother's Name:Anna Hess https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FW89-YTTSpouse's Father's Name:Joseph RodriguesSpouse's Mother's Name:Emilia Fustado https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FW89-YTP Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01597-7 https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20query=+batch_number:M01597-7 , System Origin: Hawaii-EASy , GS Film number: 1711789 https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20query=%2Bfilm_number%3A1711789 , Reference ID: 2079 Name:Vincent Rodrigues https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FW8M-7PTBirth Date:1895Age:24Spouse's Name:Lucille Menese https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FW8M-7PRSpouse's Birth Date:1901Spouse's Age:18Event Date:06 Dec 1919Event Place:Lahaina, Maui, HawaiiFather's Name:Joe RodriguezMother's Name:Emely Furtado https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FW8M-7PB Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01597-4 https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20query=+batch_number:M01597-4 , System Origin: Hawaii-EASy , GS Film number: 1711788 https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20query=%2Bfilm_number%3A1711788 , Reference ID: 1051 Hope this help some more. David On Thursday, April 23, 2015 at 2:26:27 PM UTC-7, suchislife55 wrote: Hi All, I just joined this group today. My great grandfathers name is Joseph Monseba (or variation) Rodrigues. We are trying to find his family, with no avail. All he told his children was that he was from Flores Horta and that he left the Azores on a whaling ship and when it arrived in Hawaii he jumped ship.His son, my grandfather would say his father was the black sheep of the family. That is all we know. Not even family knows more than that!! So I'm thinking he ran away.that is why he did not talk. His birth year is 1952. I have seen trees that say 1955. He died in Hawaii on Jan. 29, 1919. He married Amelia Furtado in Hawaii. Does anybody know anything or where I could look for information? It would be greatly appreciated! Thank You Gloria Arlette Rodrigues email: suchis...@gmail.com javascript: -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Does anyone have DNA matches in Continental Portugal?
Antonio, I don't seem to have any continental Portugal matches at first glance, but i did notice i have a few matches from continental Spain. One is a 4th cousin-remote relation and there is no tree posted, but surnames seem to be half from Spain and half Poland. The other match (3-5th cousin) appears to be all from Spain based on surnames listed and locations and the family tree. There is a Silva surname which i have many of so maybe its through that. David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Geneology Researcher
Hi Al, I have done quite a lot of research on my family line from Flores, as well as researched for other people on their Flores lines. If you are interested, you can email to my personal email. Thanks, David On Saturday, December 27, 2014 10:39:27 AM UTC-8, biga...@aol.com wrote: I am wondering if anyone can recommend a person who does research for the island of Flores. If you have used someone and liked their service that would be very helpful. Al Sequeira -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder Results
Hi A Faria, Yes it is interesting to see the breakdown from My Origins map, but it kind of gets a little muddled or hard to tell the percentages and everything about what is represented from each parent on the map when you have one parents who is Portuguese and one who is west and cent Europe. I did do Gedmatch using the Eurogenes 36 and it did come up with 20% Iberian, which was interesting when comparing against the My Origins map. On another note, It is cool that I match your mother's kit on Gedmatch. How you do a general search for matches on Gedmatch without knowing someone else's specific kit number? David On Thursday, December 25, 2014 11:28:42 AM UTC-8, A Faria wrote: The original message has been deleted therefore I really don't exactly know what it is in reference to but Kawika322 matches my mothers kit on Gedmatch. On Monday, December 22, 2014 10:51:23 AM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: Probably best to email the admins directly off list. With your kit number. Join the project first. I did a partial search on Kawika322 and the email addy doesn't come up. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder Results
I figured out the matching on Gedmatch. The server was too busy when I was trying it the first time. David On Friday, December 26, 2014 6:19:16 PM UTC-8, Kawika322 wrote: Hi A Faria, Yes it is interesting to see the breakdown from My Origins map, but it kind of gets a little muddled or hard to tell the percentages and everything about what is represented from each parent on the map when you have one parents who is Portuguese and one who is west and cent Europe. I did do Gedmatch using the Eurogenes 36 and it did come up with 20% Iberian, which was interesting when comparing against the My Origins map. On another note, It is cool that I match your mother's kit on Gedmatch. How you do a general search for matches on Gedmatch without knowing someone else's specific kit number? David On Thursday, December 25, 2014 11:28:42 AM UTC-8, A Faria wrote: The original message has been deleted therefore I really don't exactly know what it is in reference to but Kawika322 matches my mothers kit on Gedmatch. On Monday, December 22, 2014 10:51:23 AM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: Probably best to email the admins directly off list. With your kit number. Join the project first. I did a partial search on Kawika322 and the email addy doesn't come up. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder Results
I had a questions about my FF results. My Mom's side is the 100% Portuguese side, while my dad's is mostly German and other European. Is it common with to have such a low percentage of southern Europe (only 1%) that encompasses Spain, Portugal, Italy, etc? It seems that there should be more % for Southern Europe since I am half Portuguese. The majority of my results are Western and Central Europe (91%), with 2% of Finland and Northern Siberia. I also have 5% of what they categorize as Middle Eastern, which comprises 2 % Asia Minor (Turkey area), and 3% North Africa (Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria). I am guessing the 5% Middle Eastern may account for a Moorish influence to the Azores/Madeira. Any insights would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] What's Next to upload for the CCA?
I would also like to thank the CCA for getting all the Azores parishes online. It was a big task and definitely worth it. Does anyone know what might be next on the agenda for the CCA to upload? From what I remember it may be the passportes for Angra or Horta but I'm not sure. David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with two marriages records in Luz, Santa Cruz, Graciosa
Lee, JR, and John, It would be interesting to collaborate with all of you and see if we have connecting Graciosa lines. I too have many Conde's, and Ataide's in my family tree, mostly from Sao Matheus and Luz. There is a Genealogias de Graciosa por Matheus Machado Fagundes on the Cultural Azores website: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GENEALOGIAS-GRACIOSA/GENEALOGIAS-GRACIOSA_item1/index.html There also was another person named Oriolando Silva (who has passed away I believe in the last decade or so) who supposedly did a lot of work and research on many or the majority of families on Graciosa. Maybe both Joao Ventura's would have more information on this. David On Friday, September 26, 2014 7:21:20 PM UTC-7, JR wrote: I could be wrong, but I thought there was an important work published on the families of Graciosa. You should ask Joao Ventura about that. JR On Friday, September 26, 2014 9:10:03 PM UTC-4, John Athayde wrote: I’m also seeing lots of names and I believe that many of these families would tack 4 or 5 together. I’ve got my great-great grandmother (D. Adeliade Isable de Athaíde do Conde) listed as just Athaide, Ataide, Conde, and sometimes both. In many cases the Athayde name passed down on the mothers side to my ancestor. I’ve found many of those same names (Espinola, Miranda, da Cota, dde Sousa) and some like de Quadros, Alvares, de Vilalobos. I’ve gotten back from Catarina De Ataíde two more generations to Maria Rebelo de Ataíde (d 20 Apr 1700) but the line stops there. I had João Ventura looking into it, but there’s some records missing online as of the last time he looked and we’re not able to track the name (Ataíde) to the mainland yet. Based on your experience, I feel that I may be losing more hair in the near future as I try to dig deeper! :) Thanks Lee! Cheers J On Sep 26, 2014, at 8:19 PM, Lee shor...@suddenlink.net wrote: JR and John Athayde- The ancestors of Joao Correa de Mendoca have/making me literally insane...lol JR, you mentioned manoel Pereira Maia/Maya. If he's the one who married maria de Conde do Rozario daughter of manoel de zoned Pais and Maria de Mendoca he is one of my cousins direct ancestors as well through their daughter Maris Josefa d Conde who married Mathias Jose Dornellas on May 3 , 1773 in Luz. I count the surnames of Bettencourt at least 11 times, de Conde at least 11 times, Athayde 3 times and others such as Mendonca, Hortins (Ortins), Novais, Vaz Sodre (not sure if that is two separate names), de Aviz, Pais/Pays, Souza, Camara, Gonsalves, Siro, Correa, Miranda, Picano, Botelho, Espinola, Fernandes, Maia/Maya, Deiro, Avila, Melo, Medina, Dornellas, Pereira, Luz, Furtada, Grinde, Alvarez, Codts and Netta so far. I think I'll type a list like Eliseu did,that will help clear things up. Also, JR you asked about which Joao de Conde Nadine is descended from - thee aware actually two in her line: The Joao de Conde who a,arrived Dona. Aria from Praia and the is Joao de Conde Pais/Pays born about 2658 who married Maria de Novais de Eyre (Deiro) born about 1659 - he died April 20, 1739 and was the child of Manoel de Conde Sodre and Aba Go Salves and she Maris de Novais died December 12, 1739 and was the child of Manoel Dornellas da Camara and Catherina Novais de Eyre (Deiro). Sorry for the long post, it's just this family is so complicated, the same names over and over in some cases. Lee -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with two marriages records in Luz, Santa Cruz, Graciosa
I see links for Faial, Sao Miguel and Sao Jorge, under Portugal Insular...but no Graciosa. On Friday, September 26, 2014 7:54:09 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: I think that the important Graciosa work is online. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ad/ http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fculturacores.azores.gov.pt%2Fad%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNEZhoo4CfoGAZ_tNk1m3cDj0Fz4yA Click on Ligação ao Arquivo Digital http://arquivodigital.uac.pt/ Right now it just spins and spins. But if I'm in the right area, I've seen Carlos Machado's work (S.Miguel), the Graciosa stuff, some Terceira stuff, etc. I can't tell right now because it won't open. Cheri On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Kawika322 oldsc...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Lee, JR, and John, It would be interesting to collaborate with all of you and see if we have connecting Graciosa lines. I too have many Conde's, and Ataide's in my family tree, mostly from Sao Matheus and Luz. There is a Genealogias de Graciosa por Matheus Machado Fagundes on the Cultural Azores website: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GENEALOGIAS-GRACIOSA/GENEALOGIAS-GRACIOSA_item1/index.html There also was another person named Oriolando Silva (who has passed away I believe in the last decade or so) who supposedly did a lot of work and research on many or the majority of families on Graciosa. Maybe both Joao Ventura's would have more information on this. David On Friday, September 26, 2014 7:21:20 PM UTC-7, JR wrote: I could be wrong, but I thought there was an important work published on the families of Graciosa. You should ask Joao Ventura about that. JR On Friday, September 26, 2014 9:10:03 PM UTC-4, John Athayde wrote: I’m also seeing lots of names and I believe that many of these families would tack 4 or 5 together. I’ve got my great-great grandmother (D. Adeliade Isable de Athaíde do Conde) listed as just Athaide, Ataide, Conde, and sometimes both. In many cases the Athayde name passed down on the mothers side to my ancestor. I’ve found many of those same names (Espinola, Miranda, da Cota, dde Sousa) and some like de Quadros, Alvares, de Vilalobos. I’ve gotten back from Catarina De Ataíde two more generations to Maria Rebelo de Ataíde (d 20 Apr 1700) but the line stops there. I had João Ventura looking into it, but there’s some records missing online as of the last time he looked and we’re not able to track the name (Ataíde) to the mainland yet. Based on your experience, I feel that I may be losing more hair in the near future as I try to dig deeper! :) Thanks Lee! Cheers J On Sep 26, 2014, at 8:19 PM, Lee shor...@suddenlink.net wrote: JR and John Athayde- The ancestors of Joao Correa de Mendoca have/making me literally insane...lol JR, you mentioned manoel Pereira Maia/Maya. If he's the one who married maria de Conde do Rozario daughter of manoel de zoned Pais and Maria de Mendoca he is one of my cousins direct ancestors as well through their daughter Maris Josefa d Conde who married Mathias Jose Dornellas on May 3 , 1773 in Luz. I count the surnames of Bettencourt at least 11 times, de Conde at least 11 times, Athayde 3 times and others such as Mendonca, Hortins (Ortins), Novais, Vaz Sodre (not sure if that is two separate names), de Aviz, Pais/Pays, Souza, Camara, Gonsalves, Siro, Correa, Miranda, Picano, Botelho, Espinola, Fernandes, Maia/Maya, Deiro, Avila, Melo, Medina, Dornellas, Pereira, Luz, Furtada, Grinde, Alvarez, Codts and Netta so far. I think I'll type a list like Eliseu did,that will help clear things up. Also, JR you asked about which Joao de Conde Nadine is descended from - thee aware actually two in her line: The Joao de Conde who a,arrived Dona. Aria from Praia and the is Joao de Conde Pais/Pays born about 2658 who married Maria de Novais de Eyre (Deiro) born about 1659 - he died April 20, 1739 and was the child of Manoel de Conde Sodre and Aba Go Salves and she Maris de Novais died December 12, 1739 and was the child of Manoel Dornellas da Camara and Catherina Novais de Eyre (Deiro). Sorry for the long post, it's just this family is so complicated, the same names over and over in some cases. Lee -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Assistantce needed with marriage record of Antonio Jorge and Anna (Vas)Concellos - Ginetes, Ponta Delgada
Hi Lee, The record is pretty difficult to read. First, there does not seem to be a date, however maybe someone can find a mention of it somewhere in the record. Sometimes the priest either forgot to write the date or it could be the same date as the previous marriage record. It looks like it reads Antonio Jorge, son of Pedro? (Po) Goncalves (Glz)? (deceased) and of Agada (Ag) da Costa? (tough to make out the last name. It could be Cotta or some other name), with Barbara (Ba) de Vasconcellos, daughter of Bartolomeu (Bau) Goncalves (Glz)? and Maria Alves? (hard to tell last name. Could be Alvares, Neves, or something else). For better clarification, I would try and find the baptismal records for Antonio Jorge and Barbara Vasconcellos. Also look for the death record of the father of Antonio Jorge, since it states that he died before the marriage (before April 1671). I do not know if this is the correct record you are looking for since the Ana Vasconcellos is actually Barbara in the record. David On Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:09:04 AM UTC-7, Lee wrote: Below is the marriage record of Antonio Jorge and Anna Vasconcellos (bottom of right page) - My thanks to Pam Santos for finding (and sending the link) to me. Unfortuantely, this is a difficult one for me to read. I cannot even read the date or the parents names, or if they were given at all. I can see Atonio Jorge filho ? and on the next line I can see com B or a D ? ??? Concellos filha de ? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P19.html ANY and all help is/will be greatly appreicated. Lee Estep, Charleston, West Virginia -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Correcting Mistakes/Inconsistencies in Genealogias Da Ilha Terceira
The JA Freitas Library in San Leandro, CA has a complete set of the Genealogias Da Ilha Terceira (Dislivro Publication) by Antonio Ornelas Mendes and Jorge Forjaz, so I have been able to further research my family lines, particularly from Graciosa since the volumes cover many of the families from Graciosa. In going through some of the volumes and family lines connected with my family, I have noticed a handful of mistakes/Inconsistencies, mostly dealing with incorrect names of spouses or names of people that are close to one another where the incorrect family line is associated to them. In any case, with such a detailed and comprehensive genealogy publication, there are bound to be a few issues. My question is, does anyone know how I would go about contacting the authors about corrections? Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Correcting Mistakes/Inconsistencies in Genealogias Da Ilha Terceira
The JA Freitas Library in San Leandro, CA has a complete set of the Genealogias Da Ilha Terceira (Dislivro Publication) by Antonio Ornelas Mendes and Jorge Forjaz, so I have been able to further research my family lines, particularly from Graciosa since the volumes cover many of the families from Graciosa. In going through some of the volumes and family lines connected with my family, I have noticed a handful of mistakes/Inconsistencies, mostly dealing with incorrect names of spouses or names of people that are close to one another where the incorrect family line is associated to them. In any case, with such a detailed and comprehensive genealogy publication, there are bound to be a few issues. My question is, does anyone know how I would go about contacting the authors about corrections? Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] How accurate is death record information
They seem to range in accuracy. For the most part they will get the name right and their spouses name correct if they were married or widowed. The amount of info also seems to depend on the priest, and the year. Death recs in the 1600's and 1700's sometimes contain less info. Generally i have seen that children and young unmarried people have relatively accurate info with age, names of parents etc., and where they were from. For middle age or older individuals age accuracy seems to vary from what I have have seen, from accurate within the correct year , or up to 4 or 5 years off. Sometimes spouses of the deceased are not listed for some reason, as well as ages. Other times the records may not list the original place the individual was from if they did not know. In any case, the Obitos can be very useful in filling in info and calculating their approximate birth. I use the other baptismal and marriage records to get more precise info. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation of Marriage for da Vega
Here is what I got from the record: On 30 January 1895, in the parish of the village of Santa Cruz, on the Island of Graciosa, diocese of Angra...presents Manuel Espinola da Viegas and Film en a Olivia da GloriaHe 20 years old, single, worker, legitimate son of Jose Espinola da Viegas and of Francisca Candida Margarita (deceased),and she (the bride), age 15, single, domestic occupation, natural daughter of Maria Joaquina, single, all natives of this freguesia. The rest of the record lists the testament witnesses and so on. Hope this helps, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation of Marriage for da Vega
Auto correct spelling changed what I wrote a bit. It is Manuel Espinola da Viegas and Filomena Olivia da Gloria. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation of Marriage for da Vega
Viega. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Graciosa - NS da Luz - Marriage Record
The father's name of the bride on the first marriage is Capitao Antonio Fogaça da Silva. The first and middle name combination of Antonio Fogaça seems to be have a fair amount of occurrence in Luz and Sao Matheus, and probably the other parishes of Guadalupe and Santa Cruz. I myself have several Antonio Fogaça in my tree, including that of an Antonio Fogaça da Silva from Sao Matheus who was married to Joao Clara de Sao Domingo. I also have have two Antonio Fogaça de Ataide's, and an Antonio Fogaça Neto. I am not sure where the groom Manuel de Bettencourt Avila is from. It does not appear to state anything in particular other than from the parish the marriage was in. I looked through the marriage indexes from Santa Cruz and did not find his parents, so I do not think they were from there. Probably are from Luz but try Sao Matheus and Guadalupe. David On Saturday, June 7, 2014 5:09:57 AM UTC-7, Lee wrote: I need some help with the marriage record of Manoel de Bettencourt Avila and Isabel de Ponte da Sylva (right page/top record). I know the date is October 13, 1755. His parents are Manoel de Mendonca Sodre and Maria Medina de Bettencourt. Her parents are Capitao Antonio ??? da Sylva and Maria Novais Machado *The main question that I have is - Where is the groom from??* http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-LUZ-C-1741-1798/GRA-SC-LUZ-C-1741-1798_item1/P3.html This is Manoel de Bettencourt Avila's first marriage, the 2nd is http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-LUZ-C-1741-1798/GRA-SC-LUZ-C-1741-1798_item1/P48.html (left page/bottom and right page top) In this record it says he and his bride (Maria de Jesus de Bettencourt) are all from this fregusia. However, I can find no information on his parents in this parish. Any help/information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance for any help provided. Lee Estep, Oak Hill, West Virginia -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Cruz, Graciosa - Pages before baptisms from 1711-1726
I was looking through the Baptisms for Santa Cruz Graciosa from 1711 - 1726 and was wondering if anyone knows what all of the info written from pages 29 to 133 is referring to? Pages 1 to 28 are the indices for the baptisms for that timeperiod, but from pages 29 to 133 there are entries that are not the baptisms but something else. I was interested because I saw a few names that I recognized in the entries, such as on page 84 with Diogo Viegas. Any info would be appreciated, Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Santa Cruz, Graciosa - Pages before baptisms from 1711-1726
Here is the link to one of the pages I was talking about that mentioned Diogo Viegas. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1711-1726/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1711-1726_item1/P84.html If you scroll through the other pages, you will see that the format is different than the baptisms that start in 1711 on page 134 On Monday, June 2, 2014 5:56:45 PM UTC-7, Kawika322 wrote: I was looking through the Baptisms for Santa Cruz Graciosa from 1711 - 1726 and was wondering if anyone knows what all of the info written from pages 29 to 133 is referring to? Pages 1 to 28 are the indices for the baptisms for that timeperiod, but from pages 29 to 133 there are entries that are not the baptisms but something else. I was interested because I saw a few names that I recognized in the entries, such as on page 84 with Diogo Viegas. Any info would be appreciated, Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Interpretation of Obit Record from Sao Matheus, Graciosa
Hello all, I wanted to get a few more eyes for an obit record I came across for one of my Graciosa ancestors Capitao Joao Espinola de Ataide (the Ataide surname is not listed on the this obit record though i think). It is the bottom record on the right hand page. May 1717 Sao Matheus, Graciosa http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-O-1664-1721/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-O-1664-1721_item1/P192.html Can anyone make out the precise date the obit record took place? The month is May but the day is kind of unclear. It should be after the twentieth i think because the record prior looks like May 26. Also, does it state he is married or widowed? as it is kind of hard to read. It looks like casado (married). The wife's name I believe is listed as just D. (Dona) Maria. Lastly, the fifth row down of the record, it states his approximate age, and I cannot tell exactly if it is 65 or 75 years. Any help would be appreciated, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with marriage - Graciosa,
What I could make out was Antonio Lobao, son of Manuel Fr(not sure exactly what that is short for - maybe Ferreira, Francisco, Fernandes, Furtado) da Miranda and of Ines Gomes, and Filipa Spinola (Espinola) daughter of Rafael Spinola (deceased = ja De funto) and Maria Novais. I am not really sure on last name of Manuel as I can't really tell if the da is part of the Fr or it is da Miranda. The others I think are more clear. Hope this helps a bit. David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal Record Question - Sao Matheus, Graciosa
Hi Margaret, Thanks, for the translation. It seems interesting that the godfather was the holy spirit. I don't think I have seen that before. Also, his full name does list Coelho as his last name from his marriage record, but not his baptismal record. Does anyone know how common it is to list a child's name more than just the first name?? David On Saturday, May 10, 2014 5:36:42 AM UTC-7, Mara wrote: Hi David, From what I read it does not show the full name with Coelho, the child was dedicated to the Holy Spirit, 3rd person of the Trinity, who was the child's Godfather. The record reads Manuel do Divino Emperador (of the Divine Emperor, another name given to the Holy Spirit). The document reads Godparents:, forao padrinhos o Divino Emperador e o Reverendo Mestre da Capela Francisco Jose de Bintancourt em nome de etc. God Parents were the Holy Spirit and the Reverend Master of the Chapel Francisco in name of ...(names another Priest living in the Terceira island) best, On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 1:09 AM, David Buckley oldsc...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I have a question from a baptismal record of my 6x g. grandfather Manuel do Divino Emperador Coelho. He was born 10 Aug 1770 in Sao Matheus, Graciosa. His parents were Francisco Jose Coelho and Ana Rosa do Livramento. The interesting thing about the record is that Manuel's full name is listed in the baptismal record instead of just his first name. How common was it to list more than just a first name? I also have a question on who the Padrinhos are? Any info would be helpful. Does Divino Emperador signify anything in particular? Maybe it has to do with Festa or something along those lines. Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with lines in Baptismal Record from Sao Matheus, Graciosa
Thanks, that was kind of what I was thinking it said, but wasn't sure. Their next child was born in 1710 in Luz, Graciosa, and makes no mention of them not being married, so its my guess they got married sometime between 1705 and 1710. I have not been able to find their marriage in Luz, Graciosa, so hopefully it is in one of the other churches. David On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 5:48:32 AM UTC-7, mnk wrote: She was born before they were received, meaning married in the church. Mnk -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Marriage record help
Hi Gerri, Here is what I have for the record. The date is 18 Jan 1671. Parents of Joao Coelho are Jose Roiz (Rodrigues?) Catharina Goncalves Parents of Beatriz de Melo are Sebastiao Fernandes Borges Beatriz de Melo Hope this helps, David On Monday, April 28, 2014 7:41:33 PM UTC-7, Gerri Martin wrote: I have been staring for an hour - time to ask for help I guess. I think the year is 1671 because of previous entries on page, I think the day is Jan 18th. Groom Joao Coelho, Bride Beatriz de Melo Her parents Sebastiao F Borges and Beatriz de Melo His parents I cannot read, although I found a family tree on ancestry that says they are Maria Goncalves Jose Rodrigues. I cannot make it out. Hoping someone can confirm my date and help with grooms parents http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712_item1/P28.html It is bottom right page, Thank you so much Gerri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Military Records
Does anyone know if they kept Military Records for individuals during the early 1700's? For instance, they must have documented when an individual achieved the title of Alferes or Capitao and listed some personal info about the person. Maybe the Angra archives or library would have something.. I ask this because I have not been able to find out any more info about who the parents or siblings might be of my ancestor who was a Capitao in Luz, Graciosa in the early 1700's. I cannot find his baptismal or marriage record, so this would be a long shot.. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: GRACIOSA researcher's list
Hi Eliseu, Can you add me to your list as well. Thanks, David On Thursday, April 10, 2014 2:06:51 PM UTC-7, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote: Hi, Some time ago I have asked to GRACIOSA researchers to send me their email addresses. I have sent now to everyone who answered back the list of the addresses. Now I think it will be easier to contact among us. I will update that list if someone wants to participate on it J. *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva* Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Rodrigo Rodrigues Genealogias
I have Volume 1 of Rodrigo Rodrigues *Genealogias de Sao Miguel and Santa Maria. *But does anyone know if the other volumes are available anywhere? I have seen it referenced on several occasions in other works, so I know some people have access to it. I understand that it is hard to come by and that others (some on this list) have tried to get it but are still waiting. The index of chapters on each individual is available along with the order form on the dislivro website, but I heard that it is not a good idea to try and order it that way..There are names in my database that I think match up with the names on his index beyond Volume I, but I haven't had a way to look at the actual genealogias and confirm. Any info on where I could find it would be greatly appreciated. David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Does anybody the source of this passport record
What years and areas do these passport records cover on this website? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marriage Record - Andre de Sousa Isabel Cabral - 1667 in Santa Luzia, Feteiras, Sao Miguel
Hi Richard, it is definitely a fairly tough record to see the names. I appreciate your info. I am pretty sure though the last name of the groom is Sousa, as his P's and S's look a bit different, and Andre de Sousa and Isabel Cabal are the parents names on all of their children's baptism recs. David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marriage Record - Andre de Sousa Isabel Cabral - 1667 in Santa Luzia, Feteiras, Sao Miguel
I think I found the baptismal rec of Andre (the groom in the marriage rec I was referring to). I think the parents names match up. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FETEIRAS-B-1643-1684/SMG-PD-FETEIRAS-B-1643-1684_item1/P10.html David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Miguel people in Sao Jorge!
I have an instance in my family line that is related to what you are talking about. My ggg grandfather Antonio Silveira da Costa (born 1838, Arrifes, Sao Miguel) moved with his parents Joao da Costa and Anna Maria and grandmother Magdalena Rosa from Arrifes, Sao Miguel to Ribeira Seca, Sao Jorge somewhere between 1842 and 1864. In 1865 he married Rosa Silveira in Ribeira Seca, Sao Jorge. Based on an info from a cousin, Joao da Costa (father of Antonio) was an engineer at the time they were building the road that connected the villages of Topo and Velas. This may have been why the whole family moved all the way to Sao Jorge. I only found out/realized that the whole family had moved, because earlier on I had been trying to find the death records for Joao da Costa, Anna Maria and Magdalena Rosa in the obitos in Sao Miguel and had come up with nothing, and later on I was browsing through the Obitos in Ribeira Seca, Sao Jorge and came upon one of their death records. I search more and found the rest which was a great find. I wonder what other reasons may have prompted the moved to Sao Jorge? Anyways, I thought it was an interesting story that connects with the posting topic. David On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 7:54:03 AM UTC-8, rcapodc wrote: You are welcome, Elisue! I come across men sometimes from other Islands. Usually I’m in a hurry and don’t make a note but today,since the Island was far away, I jotted the info down. Rosemarie *From:* Eliseu Pacheco javascript: *Sent:* Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:06 AM *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Miguel people in Sao Jorge! Thank you so much Rosemarie! These people are not of my lineages but just imagine if they were... I hope everybody does what you did! I will do it everytime I found someone from another island! Thank you again Eliseu Pacheco da Silva No dia 29/01/2014, às 05:03, rcapodc rca...@redshift.com javascript: escreveu: Hi List, While searching for relatives in Norte Grande, Sao Jorge, I can across two different men from Sao Miguel and their wives having children: 1892 Image #9: Constancia born to Joao Silveira Brazil and his wife Constancia dos Anjos. Joao is listed as being a native of Sao Jose de Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel and is the son of Joaquim Silveira Brazil Anna de Jesus.. His wife, Constancia dos Anjos is from Norte Grande. 1892 Image #9: Adelaide born to Francisco Jose Moreira? and Maria do Rosario. Francisco is a native of Villa Franca do Campo, Sao Miguel and is the son of Maria Euphrazia, single. Maria do Rosario is from Norte Grande. Just thought I would make a note of the two births to men from Sao Miguel just in case you have no clue where they went to marry! Rosemarie -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marriage Record - Andre de Sousa Isabel Cabral - 1667 in Santa Luzia, Feteiras, Sao Miguel
I have a marriage record that is hard to read and was looking for some fresh eyes to take a look at it and see if they can make out the parents names of the bridge and groom. The writing is kind of hard to read, names are abbreviated, and the record curves into the spine of the book so the names get harder to make out. I have decent idea of the names, but am not quite sure. The record is from 9 Feb 1667 in Santa Luzia, Feteiras, Sao Miguel. I think the parents of Antonio are Joao? Frz? and Maria ?Aguiar? and parents of Isabel are Pedro? Cabral and Maria Alvarez? I could be way off, haha. Any input would be helpful. Here is the link. Record is on the top left. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FETEIRAS-C-1621-1693/SMG-PD-FETEIRAS-C-1621-1693_item1/P52.html David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for marriage record of Louis de Sousa Theresa Pavao - Candelaria/Feteiras/Mosteiros, Sao Miguel
I have been trying to find the marriage record of Louis de Sousa and Theresa Pavao, most likely from Candelaria, Sao Miguel. As far as I can tell, their first child was Maria Theresa de Espirito Santo, born 8 May 1747 in Candelaria, Sao Miguel. From that record, it states that Louis de Sousa was from Feteiras, Sao Miguel, and Theresa Pavao was from Mosteiros, Sao Miguel. I have also browsed the marriage recs a while back in Mosteiros and Feteiras but did not see anything. If anyone comes across the marriage record, or has info on this couple it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for marriage record of Louis de Sousa Theresa Pavao - Candelaria/Feteiras/Mosteiros, Sao Miguel
Update: Record found.. In looking in the Mosteiros marriages, I managed to find the record I was looking for. They were married 15 Feb 1745. On Monday, January 27, 2014 10:11:24 PM UTC-8, Kawika322 wrote: I have been trying to find the marriage record of Louis de Sousa and Theresa Pavao, most likely from Candelaria, Sao Miguel. As far as I can tell, their first child was Maria Theresa de Espirito Santo, born 8 May 1747 in Candelaria, Sao Miguel. From that record, it states that Louis de Sousa was from Feteiras, Sao Miguel, and Theresa Pavao was from Mosteiros, Sao Miguel. I have also browsed the marriage recs a while back in Mosteiros and Feteiras but did not see anything. If anyone comes across the marriage record, or has info on this couple it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: How can I find the name of my ancestor that came to Brazil
Ubirajara, I have a book about the various Portuguese colonies with a map of Brazil with names of Portuguese people who settled in various parts of Brasil in the 1600's. If you can provide some surnames or names of your ancestors, I could see if there are any common names that could match your ancestors. David On Friday, January 3, 2014 4:05:33 PM UTC-8, Ubirajara Jales de Lira wrote: Hello, does anybody know the names of the people that came to Northeast of Brazil from Azores in the centuries XVI, XVII and XVIII? Because, I need to find the name of my ancestor in my mothers line that came to Brazil. Ive got an exact match in mtDNA FMS from Azores. My ancestors were to contryside of Paraiba State and Rio Grnde do Norte State, but before I think that they arrived in Pernambuco and/or Bahia States, 300 years ago or more. Cheri, I am in Azores Project on FTDNA and you can see my results. My address is ubj...@bol.com.br javascript:. Ubirajara Jales de Lira. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Births, Marriages Deaths at Sea
Although many may know of this resource, I found it particularly helpful when attempting to locate a death record of my great great grandmother who died on the ship while coming from Madeira to Hawaii. I had been unable find any written info regarding her death in the normal passenger ship lists and manifests. It simply listed her as one of the family members who was on the ship and who arrived to Hawaii, although I knew she had died on the ship. It is the UK Archives (formerly the Public Records Office) which holds many open-access records, one of which is their BT Series. This set of records is useful for those who are looking for info on their families when they came over from the Azores and Madeira to Hawaii and the US on *British Registered Ships*. The regular passenger lists did not always give details on individual births, marriages and deaths. From these records I was able to locate the death record of my g.g. grandmother as well as one of her children. The BT series consists of Registry of Shipping and Seamen, 1854-1908. BT158 was the helpful series for me. You can search the index for these records for free and then you can order/purchase the actual page of the record. Although you have to pay for it, it is definitely worth it when you find the record you have been looking for. Here is the website where you can get more info on the records and search the indexes. http://www.bmdregisters.co.uk/ From their website: BT158 Registry of Shipping and Seamen: Registers of Births, Deaths and Marriages of Passengers at Sea. Covering dates 1854-1908. These are registers compiled from ships' official logs of births, deaths and marriages of passengers at sea by the Registrar General of Shipping and Seamen (RGSS) and its predecessor. From 1874, the RGSS was required to report births and deaths at sea, aboard all ships registered in Britain or its colonies and on foreign-registered ships carrying passengers to or from the UK, to the Registrars General of England and Wales, Scotland and Ireland (the General Register Offices). The name of this series is misleading as it includes events related to persons of any nationality, not just British nationals. It should also cover events on foreign-registered passenger ships travelling to or from a UK port, but there is little evidence of this in the registers themselves. Just thought I would share this info, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help tracking down Immigration and Baptismal Record for John Perry - Sao Miguel
I am trying to track down the immigration/ship passenger record for a relative John Perry. From everything I found, he was most likely from the Ponta Delgada area of Sao Miguel, and his birthday dates ranges from December 1875 to 1879 based on various records (census, WWI draft register, petitition for naturalization), but it could be different years. His petition for naturalization record in Sacramento only states when he came from Hawaii to California, but not when he came from Azores to Hawaii. The census records say state he immigrated sometime around 1895. One ship came in 4 April 1895 - The S.S. Braunfels. One baptismal record of his first child Maria states his name as Joao Damos Pareira. I searched the Index to Portugal Manifests on the Hawaii Archives website and found a likely match - Joao Pereira Damaso who arrived on the S.S. Braunfels in 1895. http://archives1.dags.hawaii.gov/gsdl/collect/indextop/index/assoc/HASHeb18/98cce7a3.dir/doc.pdf It does not state is age but only he was from Delgada. I tried to look up the record on the handwritten ship passenger manifests from the Portuguese Consulate - It is microfilmed and available at the Family History Library #1017125, but I could not find an entry of a Joao Pereira Damaso for some reason on that ship. Maybe I missed it. The typed index card where I found his name has #257, sheet 6 written on it. From what I can tell, this does not correlate with the hand written numbers on the ship passenger lists. Does anyone know what the original source info for the index cards is? Also, I am not sure on the names of his parents. The California Death Record Index lists his father's last name as Camara and mother's last name as Joseph. I have heard the family name of Camara from other cousins but it has never been confirmed how the Camara (or Pereira Camara) name is connected. He always went by John Perry. Any info would be helpful, Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese Citizenship
That is interesting information to know. From what I have read though, I thought that you would only be eligible to obtain Portuguese citizenship or dual citizenship if a parent or grandparent was born in Portugal (up 2 to generations worth). In other words, if your great-grandmother was born in Portugal and everyone else--your grandmother, mother etc. were born in the states, then you would not be eligible, but they would be. I may have misread the info, but that is what i remember reading. David On Thursday, December 5, 2013 11:38:03 AM UTC-8, David Perry wrote: FYI - Portugal considers all descendants of folks born in Portugal to be citizens of Portugal. All one needs is an unbroken paper trail back to your ancestor who was born there and you can become a dual citizen of Portugal and the US. My father was born in Sao Miguel and after gathering the proper forms and paying a few hundred dollars to my local Portuguese Consulate, just today after about 9 months, I was notified I'm officially a Portuguese citizen even though I was born in Massachusetts. The only wrinkle in my paper trail was my father changed his name from Pereira to Perry and that would have broken the trail except back in 1938 he officially changed his name in this country. Without that document, it wouldn't have happened. It's easiest to do if a parent was born there, more difficult if it's a grandparent - the trail gets longer and fuzzier - though it's still possible. I did this, not for me - I'm too old to care one way or another but for one son who has expressed a desire to open a BB in semi-retirement in the Azores. He too is eligible since his grandfather was born there and now his father is a citizen as well. Not only does it pave the way for him to work, live and run a business in Portugal but as a citizen of a European Union country, he can essentially do that anywhere in Europe. David . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Unknown Photos - Anyone Recognize the Family or Indivi...
Hi Mary Ann, I live in the Bay Area, but I do know where both parts of the Perry/Silva family lived. The first was Jose de Freitas da Silva and his second wife Caroline Pereira (Perry) who moved to Sacramento sometime after 1900 and sometime before 28 Oct 1902 (last child born in Sacramento). They had 5 children from his second marriage: Joseph-born 1888 (Wailuku, Maui, Hawaii), Virginia-born 1891(Wailuku, Maui, Hawaii), Manuel Joseph-born 1897(Wailuku, Maui, Hawaii), Frank- born 1899 (Maui, Hawaii), and Rose- born 1902 (Sacramento). When they first came to Sacramento, they lived at 1209 30th Street. Later, they moved to 4008 R Street. The second part of the Silva family that ended up in Sacramento was Silvina Silva who married John Perry. Silvina was the sister of my great-grandmother Mary Ferreira and daughter of Jose de Freitas da Silva. Silvina and John were married in Hawaii around 1896-1897. They moved from Hawaii (Maui) to Sacramento after 1903 and before 1907 or thereabouts. Their children were John-born 1897 (Maui, Hawaii) Mary-born 1898 (Maui, Hawaii), Louise-born 1899 (Hawaii), Philip-born 1903 (Hawaii), Helen-born 1907 (Sacramento), and possibly a John born 1909 in Sacramento. When they first came to Sacramento, they were living at 218 Q Street. Later they moved to 1536 35th Street I believe. I think John Perry worked at the Libby, Mcneill and Libby Cannery as well as Silvina at some point. Any possible connections or information would be great. David On Thursday, December 5, 2013 10:22:01 AM UTC-8, cakem...@aol.com wrote: David, Do you live in the Sacramento area and do you know what area of Sacramento this family lived. If they lived in the Pocket, Freeport or in town around s, t, or v sts and 6th and 16th sts. I may have someone who could help you with identification and information. Our historian with Portuguese Historical and Cultural Society is 88 yrs old and is a wealth of information. Let me know if we can help you. Mary Ann M. In a message dated 12/5/2013 8:52:00 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, edward.s@att.net javascript: writes: On Dec 5, 2013, at 1:08 AM, Kawika322 wrote: Hi Diane, I know that two parts of the Silva family ended up in Sacramento. The first was Jose de Freitas da Silva and his second wife Caroline Pereira (Perry) who moved to Sacramento sometime after 1900 and sometime before 28 Oct 1902 (last child born in Sacramento). They had 5 children from his second marriage: Joseph-born 1888, Virginia-born 1891, Manuel Joseph-born 1897, Frank- born 1899, and Rose- born 1902. The second part of the Silva family that ended up in Sacramento was Silvina Silva who married John Perry. Silvina was the sister of my great-grandmother Mary Ferreira and daughter of Jose de Freitas da Silva. Silvina and John were married in Hawaii around 1897. They moved from Hawaii (Maui) to Sacramento around 1905 or thereabouts. Their children were Mary-born 1898 (Maui, Hawaii), Louise-born 1899 (Hawaii), Philip-born 1903 (Hawaii), Helen-born 1907 (Sacramento), and possibly a John born 1909 in Sacramento. I have found the census records for Silvina Perry and her family in the 1910-1940 census, but yet to find a trace of them in the 1900 census. Any possible connections would be great. David On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 7:08:48 PM UTC-8, Diane Cox wrote: Do you have any clues about the family in Sacramento? I have contact with several Perry families in the Auburn/Sacramento area. Diane On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Kawika322 oldsc...@gmail.com wrote: I have a few old family photos in which I am not sure who the family and individuals are. I have several pretty good guesses as to who a few of the people are..one possibly being John Perry who was from the Azores, his wife Silvina who was from Madeira, and their family in Sacramento. The other(s) I am not as sure about. The families lived in Hawaii and/or Sacramento area. I know this is a long shot, but any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated. A more precise time-frame the pictures were taken would also be helpful. (clothing etc..) On the back of the photo of the woman with the baby, there is some writing that is hard to make out because it is water damaged. I can make out a decent amount, but any other eyes looking at it would also be helpful. I wonder if it is telling who the individuals are, or if it is addressing who the photo is for. Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Unknown Photos - Anyone Recognize the Family or Individuals?
Thanks to everyone for your input so far about the pictures. From what others have posted and what I can see from the writing on the back of the picture in conjunction with what I know about my family, I believe it reads: Camp 5 Store Manuel Mrs. Carlinia Silva Puunene Miss Mary Ferreira Other than that I am not sure about the other photo's themselves. Caroline Silva was the married name of my great grandmother's step mom. My great grandmother was Mary Ferreira. The Silva's and Perry's lived in Maui, Hawaii until the early 1900s, and then moved to Sacramento, while the Ferreira family lived in Maui and moved to Oakland in the early 1920's. also. The Camp 5 store was located in Puunene, Maui which is close to Wailuku area. Manuel was my great uncle (the son of Mary Ferreira). It is still hard to tell if the writing on the back of the photo indicates who is in the photos or who the photos were sent to. David On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 5:12:31 PM UTC-8, Kawika322 wrote: I have a few old family photos in which I am not sure who the family and individuals are. I have several pretty good guesses as to who a few of the people are..one possibly being John Perry who was from the Azores, his wife Silvina who was from Madeira, and their family in Sacramento. The other(s) I am not as sure about. The families lived in Hawaii and/or Sacramento area. I know this is a long shot, but any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated. A more precise time-frame the pictures were taken would also be helpful. (clothing etc..) On the back of the photo of the woman with the baby, there is some writing that is hard to make out because it is water damaged. I can make out a decent amount, but any other eyes looking at it would also be helpful. I wonder if it is telling who the individuals are, or if it is addressing who the photo is for. Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Unknown Photos - Anyone Recognize the Family or Individuals?
Hi Diane, I know that two parts of the Silva family ended up in Sacramento. The first was Jose de Freitas da Silva and his second wife Caroline Pereira (Perry) who moved to Sacramento sometime after 1900 and sometime before 28 Oct 1902 (last child born in Sacramento). They had 5 children from his second marriage: Joseph-born 1888, Virginia-born 1891, Manuel Joseph-born 1897, Frank- born 1899, and Rose- born 1902. The second part of the Silva family that ended up in Sacramento was Silvina Silva who married John Perry. Silvina was the sister of my great-grandmother Mary Ferreira and daughter of Jose de Freitas da Silva. Silvina and John were married in Hawaii around 1897. They moved from Hawaii (Maui) to Sacramento around 1905 or thereabouts. Their children were Mary-born 1898 (Maui, Hawaii), Louise-born 1899 (Hawaii), Philip-born 1903 (Hawaii), Helen-born 1907 (Sacramento), and possibly a John born 1909 in Sacramento. I have found the census records for Silvina Perry and her family in the 1910-1940 census, but yet to find a trace of them in the 1900 census. Any possible connections would be great. David On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 7:08:48 PM UTC-8, Diane Cox wrote: Do you have any clues about the family in Sacramento? I have contact with several Perry families in the Auburn/Sacramento area. Diane On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Kawika322 oldsc...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I have a few old family photos in which I am not sure who the family and individuals are. I have several pretty good guesses as to who a few of the people are..one possibly being John Perry who was from the Azores, his wife Silvina who was from Madeira, and their family in Sacramento. The other(s) I am not as sure about. The families lived in Hawaii and/or Sacramento area. I know this is a long shot, but any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated. A more precise time-frame the pictures were taken would also be helpful. (clothing etc..) On the back of the photo of the woman with the baby, there is some writing that is hard to make out because it is water damaged. I can make out a decent amount, but any other eyes looking at it would also be helpful. I wonder if it is telling who the individuals are, or if it is addressing who the photo is for. Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Stowaways
From what I have researched of Passengers traveling from either Madeira or the Azores to Hawaii, there are instances of stowaways listed on the regular passenger manifests. However, It seems to be more likely that these individuals or families were accounted for and known to be aboard the ship, but were without the proper paperwork (e.g. passport documents etc.) and were therefore deemed Clandestino literally meaning stowaway. I have a relative who falls under that category. He was from Madeira and was was listed on the passenger ship list like everyone else, however like many on the same page of the list it states he is a Clandestino. To double check idea that he did not have the proper paperwork, I went to the Arquivo Madeira website, and sure enough he does not show up on any of the searches for passports. Maybe someone could clarify if Clandestino had a different meaning in these cases. David On Friday, November 29, 2013 7:55:04 AM UTC-8, Jose A Medeiros wrote: Are there any lists of stowaways from boats that left the Azores? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Records for Sete Cidades, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel
I was wondering if anyone knows where I can find the records for Sete Cidades (São Nicolau), Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel. The film # on the Family History website would be helpful or on the CCA Cultural Azores website. I don't think they have gotten to posting the records on the Cultural Azores website, but I can't seem to find a film # on the Family History website either. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for Marriage rec for Joao Jose das Nevas and Francisca Mariana - Pico, Azores
Does anyone have a database where they could look up a marriage record for Joao Jose das Neves and Francisca Mariana probably from Candelaria, Pico, but it could be from somewhere else. I have looked and not been able to find it so far. There is a marriage rec for a Joao Jose das Neves and Isabel Francisca Sao Jose from 1756, but that might be from a 1st marriage. The first child that I know of from the second marriage was Eleuterio (later went be Antonio) born in 1782 in Candelaria, Pico. I also cannot find the first marriage record for Antonio Jose das Neves who is the son of Joao Jose das Neves. He married Isabel Tomazia, but I have only been able to find the second marriage. His first wife died in 1835 and he was married in 1838 (with a child born 1836 before his 2nd marriage) to Maria Francisca. Their children were born in Sao Matheus, Madelena, Pico. Any help would be greatly appreciated. David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Horta Passportes lookups
Does anyone on the list know of someone who would be able to do some Passportes lookups for me for the Horta Port? There are approximately 4 individuals that I need to find (2 of the 4 more so right now). I have a several ship passenger lists coming from the port of Fayal (Horta) to Boston for two of the people and therefore the Passportes on the other end would be much easier to locate. The people are: Matheus Jose das Neves - he was presumably from Madelena, Pico, and arrived in Boston aboard the brig *Evanista *on 2 Oct 1865 from the Port of Fayal. Francisco Pereira - he was most likely from Creache Velha, Pico and * possible* match for ship record is that he arrived in Boston aboard the Bark Azor in May of 1857 from the Port of Fayal. The other individuals I am looking for: Antonio Silva (Silveira) and his son Jose Silva (Silveira) and Marianna Freitas are most likely from Flores, but are still first trying to track down when they actually came from the Azores to the US before I have someone look into the Horta Passportes. Any info would be greatly appreciated. David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with margin note on Baptismal Record - Candelaria, Pico
I have been searching for the baptismal record of Antonio Jose das Neves in Candelaria, Pico. His parents were Joao Jose das Neves and Francisca Mariana. I have found other children from these parents but not Antonio yet. However, after consulting the NEPS site and their genealogy lists i looked under the baptismal record for a child Eleuterio (not sure on spelling), and I found a note in the margin of the record that may suggest he might have gone by Antonio. Anyways, I wanted to see what other thought about the note in the margins of the record. It is from 2 Apr 1782 in the Concelho of Madelenda, Freguesia of Candelaria, Pico, pg. 7 on the CCA website of Candelaria Baptismos 1782-1793. Any info would be appreciated. Here is the link: http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1782-1793/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1782-1793_item1/P7.html Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Silveira on Sao George, Azores
Hi Joy, These are death records. The bottom right record is the one having to do with your Manuel Silveira, however it relates to the wife of Manuel Silveira. You will have to scroll back on the years to find the death record of your Manuel Silveira. It states: Maria Faustina, widow of Manuel Silveira, natural of the fregusesa of this chuch of Santa Catherina of the town of Calheta of the Island of Sao Jorge, died on the 26* (may be 23?) of the month of June in the year 1859, age of 81 years, having been allowed to recieved the Divine Sacraments of the sick on the 27th of the same month and year, your trust has been accompanied by the members of this said church... It goes on to say that she was buried in the cemetery of the church, and is signed Cura Antonio de Mattos Freitas. Hope this helps, David On Saturday, May 4, 2013 5:33:50 AM UTC-7, Joy Hughes wrote: I have just been emailed some photos and information for my family tree. Amongst these documents and photos was this photocopy labelled Manuel Silveira on Sao George, Azores. I have been told that the right hand side of the attached double page has to do with my relatives. I have tried to read it and have enlarged it but I can only pick our a few words. If anyone can help me it would be most appreciated. Joy -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Old 1860's-1870's photos of Azorean Individuals on Ebay
For anyone who is interested, I was browsing on Ebay and came across so old albumen photos of Azorean families/individuals for sale. Most of them do not have anything written on the back indicating the person's name or year, however there are a few that have some writing. One is of a Francisco Machado of S. Miguel, dated 1864. Another is of a D. Thereza Machado of S. Miguel, 1864. A third is of Pedro Paulo dos Santos of S. Miguel, dated 1865. A fourth is of Georgina/Joaquina Ribeiro Teves Adam, dated 1867, and a fifth of Emilia Teves Adam, dated 1867. A sixth is of Arthur Hintz Ribeiro, dated 1867. A seventh is a family photo with Dr. Jacintho and Gorgina Teves Adam and Maria Fr. Hintze Ribeiro. It is unclear if the last four were from the Azores or mainland Portugal. In looking further, there are a lot of photos on there with a fair amount with writing that I have not mentioned. you can search for them.. If anyone is somehow related to or has these people in their family tree, this would be a great thing to have. Here are the links: http://www.ebay.com/itm/OLD-RARE-CDV-PORTUGAL-AZORES-ACORES-HISTORY-HINTZE-ARCHIVE-1864-MIGUEL-CDV-239-/330896460745?pt=Art_Photo_Imageshash=item4d0af74bc9 http://www.ebay.com/itm/OLD-RARE-CDV-PORTUGAL-AZORES-ACORES-HISTORY-HINTZE-ARCHIVE-1864-MIGUEL-CDV-242-/230952818728?pt=Art_Photo_Imageshash=item35c5dc5828 http://www.ebay.com/itm/OLD-RARE-CDV-PORTUGAL-AZORES-ACORES-HISTORY-HINTZE-ARCHIVE-1865-S-MIGUEL-CDV-243-/330896460739?pt=Art_Photo_Imageshash=item4d0af74bc3 http://www.ebay.com/itm/OLD-RARE-CDV-PORTUGAL-AZORES-ACORES-HISTORY-1867-JERGINA-RIBEIRO-F-ADAM-CDV-240-/230952819346?pt=Art_Photo_Imageshash=item35c5dc5a92 http://www.ebay.com/itm/OLD-RARE-CDV-PORTUGAL-AZORES-ACORES-HISTORY-1867-EMILIA-TEVES-ADAM-CDV-233-/230952818727?pt=Art_Photo_Imageshash=item35c5dc5827 http://www.ebay.com/itm/OLD-RARE-CDV-PORTUGAL-HISTORY-1867-ARTHUR-HINTZE-RIBEIRO-AZORES-ACORES-CDV-250-/230952818738?pt=Art_Photo_Imageshash=item35c5dc5832 Just thought I would let everyone know. Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA site
I think the Timeout error occurs when they are doing some maintenance or Updating of the site. I have been on the site recently multiple times in the last few days and sometimes it works fine and other times you get the Server Error message. David On Friday, April 26, 2013 11:28:53 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Are the guru's at CCA doing a major update? I have tried on several occasions and different computers to access the site and get the same error. I even dumped the browser history and did a disk clean up, still get the error (SERVER ERROR IN '/' APPLICATION.) Paul G. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: military ranks
Does anyone know if there are Azorean Military Records that might give some more information? I would assume there had to be some official records that were kept for those in the upper military ranks such as Capitão or Alferes...e.g. providing legitimacy records. Could they be kept in the Angra archives? Thanks, David On Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:45:04 PM UTC-7, Doug Holmes wrote: Hi Eliseu, It could just be a typo, but I wanted to point out that Alferes is the rank just below Capitão. The only ranks above Capitão are Sargento-mor and Capitão-mor. It's always interesting to document people as they move up the ranks. They might not have any rank when married, but if their father held some rank, often they might soon be Sargento. Then maybe 5 years later they reach Alferes. Maybe soon after that, or many years later, they finally reach Capitão. And if their ancestors were some of the most important in that village, they might be able to reach Sargento-mor or Capitão-mor, or both in succession, if those posts become available upon the death of someone already holding that rank, since there is only one of each for each concelho. Atenciosamente, Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Translation of Death Record for Miguel de Souza Ataide - Graciosa From: Eliseu Silva eliseu...@gmail.com javascript: Date: Thu, April 25, 2013 2:09 pm To: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Hi David, I have some Sousa Ataíde but I am not able to relate them to this one. This is the outline of the record: *Captain Miguel de Sousa Ataíde died in the 2nd of March, 1764, N. Sra. da Luz. He was 86 going to 87. He was the widower of Dona (Lady) Maria de Melo. He left a will made by the official clerk (Escrivão) Alberto Correia Pestana where he stated the way he would be buried. His son the Alferes (Military rank above the Captain rank) Manuel de Sousa Ataíde was his official will executioner (we can assume that Manuel was the eldest male son in the island). Captain Miguel was buried in another grave because his own was occupied (may be with is wife…)* Captain Miguel was born around 1678/1677. None of my Manuel de Sousa Ataíde (I have three with this same name) are his son… unless I have them with the wrong parents… I have a Miguel de Sousa Ataíde, born around 1695… but from a different father. Please let me know if you have any more info on this family. *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva* *Researching S. Miguel and Graciosa: PACHECO, ARRUDA, SILVA, SOUSA, BETTENCOURT and MAINLAND, Alentejo* *Azores Genealogy Group * -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
[AZORES-Genealogy] GRACIOSA, Luz
Do you have an approximate time period for their marriage?, and the birth of their children? I will be at the fhl library on sat and can try to look up the records. Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Translation of Death Record for Miguel de Souza Ataide - Graciosa
If someone would be able to provide a full translation of the record it would be greatly appreciated. Eliseu, I will send the the jpeg of the original copy from the microfilm, however it is still fairly hard to read. Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Translation of Death Record for Miguel de Souza Ataide - Graciosa
Hi Eliseu, I just noticed that I did not have or see your email address to send you the jpeg of the death record. If you could provide the email I will send it along. Thanks, David On Monday, April 22, 2013 2:42:17 AM UTC-7, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote: Hi, I habe some sousa ataíde ancestors from Graciosa. Can you send me the original jpeg of the record you are attaching here? This way is very difficult to read it. Thank you in advance. Eliseu Pacheco da Silva No dia 22/04/2013, às 06:51, Kawika322 oldsc...@gmail.com javascript: escreveu: I was wondering if someone could help translate a death record of one of my ancestors Miguel de Souza Ataide. I was able to get a moderate amount from the record, but I know I am missing some of the other detailed info. I do not have any info on the parents of Miguel de Souza Ataide and was hoping something in the record may give more info on him. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Attached is the death record from 2 Mar 1764 in Luz, Graciosa. Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. Obit Rec-Miguel de Souza Ataide 2 Mar 1764 NS Luz, Graciosa, Azores resize crop.jpg -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Altares, Terceira records prior to 1644
I am trying to trace my Altares line back and have come to a stop for the moment as the records are not present prior to 1644 (Baptisms) and 1648 (Marriages). My ancestor is Belchior Goncalves de Carvalho who was married to Maria Goncalves. Their son Manuel Goncalves Carvalho was married prior to 1646 to Maria de Melo presumably in Altares (as this is where all of their children were born) and once before that to Catharina Pereira in Se, Terceira on 1 Feb 1633. Through the earlier marriage record I was able to get the names of his parents of Belchior Goncalves Carvalho and Maria Goncalves. Any suggestions where I might go from there to get the generation before Belchior? Do records exist prior to 1644 in Altares, or were they destroyed or part of another parish before that? Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Graciosa Indexing
Hi Sheri, Do you know the approximate date of birth for Francisco Camillo? Did he have any siblings? All this will help me locate him more easily. I will see if I can check today for him in the records. Thanks, David On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:26:16 AM UTC-7, Sheri Fenley wrote: Could you please look for the name FRANCISCO CAMILLO from the village of Praia, Island of Graciosa. It is thought that his parents might be Francisco Camillo and Maria Espirito Santo. Thank you, Sheri Fenley Stockton, California On Friday, February 17, 2012 12:45:54 PM UTC-8, Kawika322 wrote: To all who may be interested, I have started indexing records from Graciosa. I am beginning with the Parish of Nossa Senhora da Luz in Luz, and will branch out to the other parishes of Sao Matheus, Santa Cruz and Guadalupe. All the records are going into my excel database so hopefully at somepoint I can have the database available to whomever. In the mean time, if anyone needs me to do a lookup for any records on Graciosa that have been microfilmed, let me know. Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Immigration and Ship Records for Freitas Family of Flores around 1869
I have been trying to figure out where,or if there might be any record of immigration for my g.g. grandfather Antone Pedro Frates (Freitas) and his brothers Frank (Francisco) and Jose (Joseph). They were born in Lajes de Flores in 1851, 1853 and 1856 and Immigrated to California early on. The eldest, Frank Pedro Freitas probably immigrated first around 1869 after the death of their father in 1868. The other two brother (including my g.g. grandfather Antone) may have come a few years after that. Does anyone know what ship or immigration records would go back that far? Also, I am not sure if they immigrated to an East Coast port and then made their way to California, or if they just came straight into California. For some reason I think they may have come straight to California. The family ended up settling in Oakland, Alameda County, California. Any suggestions or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, David -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Genealogias da Ilha Terceira
If the books you are talking about are the ones I am thinking of, the JA Freitas Library in San Leandro, California (run by the PFSA organization) has two sets of the Genealogias da Ilha Terceira. Maybe you could contact them and see if they know who to talk to. Hope this helps. David On Monday, January 14, 2013 4:36:50 PM UTC-8, Doug Holmes wrote: I was recently reminded of a situation I have with a book publisher called Guarda-Mor in Portugal and am wondering if this also happened to anyone else. This book company was responsible for getting pre-orders for the 10 volume series of the Terceira genealogy books published years ago by Jorge Forjaz and Antonio Mendes. The company is website is this: http://www.guardamor.com/livro.php?id=1436 It looks like they only have the index volume now. The series is called Genealogias da Ilha Terceira. They took my money for the books in 2006 and then took my money for the shipping to the U.S. in 2007, but never sent me anything. I just kept waiting and I believe the books are probably all sold out now and I'm left with nothing. It was about $750 USD, or so. And that was the value in 2006-2007. I am hoping someone will read this and might have contacts that can tell me who I can complain to about this theft. It's way too late for me to file a claim through my charge card. I was amongst the very first to order them in advance. I'm not looking for a refund - I want the books. I just hope there are still some out there. Some copies, I heard, were defective with blank pages and those might be all they have left. Better than nothing, I guess, but if that's all they can send me, I would also want some money back and photocopies of the missing pages. Does anyone have the email address of Jorge Forjaz and/or Antonio Mendes? I would like to let them know that Guarda-Mor stole my money for their books and did the same to my friend in California named David Bertao, another good Terceira genealogist. Did it happen to anyone else? I'd like to hear from them. Numerous attempts to contact influential people in Portugal have gotten nowhere. Well, I think I've summed it up. Atenciosamente, Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com terc...@dholmes.com javascript: -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with note in side-margin of baptismal record
I think it might just refer to when his first communicon was. On Thursday, September 27, 2012 4:09:39 PM UTC-7, Kawika322 wrote: I was wondering if someone could help me out with the translation of a note in the side margin of the baptismal record of my g.g.g. grandfather from Arrifes, Sao Miguel in 1838. What I can get so far in the side margin is just the date of 13 January 1855. Any other info would be helpful. Thanks, David -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with note in side-margin of baptismal record
Thanks everyone for the input. I don't know if it is reference to a marriage record, because he was married on the Island of Sao Jorge in 1865. On Thursday, September 27, 2012 4:09:39 PM UTC-7, Kawika322 wrote: I was wondering if someone could help me out with the translation of a note in the side margin of the baptismal record of my g.g.g. grandfather from Arrifes, Sao Miguel in 1838. What I can get so far in the side margin is just the date of 13 January 1855. Any other info would be helpful. Thanks, David -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Immigration - Ship logs
I was wondering if anyone knew when I could find ship logs for various ships that took portuguese immirgrants from the Azores and Madeira to California? I have of course looked through the different passenger manifests and lists, but some there are some details that I was trying to find - such as there were 2 deaths on board of my ancestors supposidly due to accidents, and maybe the ship logs would make note of that and possibly state if they were burried at sea or at a different port. Any info would be helpful. David -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Second opinion of translation of text in margin of Baptismal Record for Jose Ferreira from Sao Roque, Sao Miguel
Hi Gayle, Yes, it is 1863 as to the year of the baptismal record, however I am trying to figure out the year listed in the left side margin talking about his death. David On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 6:37:20 PM UTC-7, Kawika322 wrote: I found a Baptismal Record of a Jose Ferreira that I need a second opinion in translating the text in the margin of the record. I think I got most of it..something along the lines of died in the frequezia of Sao Roque, Ponta Delgada on the 15 December of 19??. What do you think is the correct year? My guess is 1951, but I would like to have other's input on this. Thanks, David -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Social Security
I had the same experience when I tried to order my Great Grandfathers Social Security Application. He was born in 1887 and died in the 1950's. They sent me back a letter saying that they could not verifty that this individual was deceased and therefore could not send the record until I provided an obituary or death certificate. I mailed them back a letter re-requesting his application and I included his death certificate. After I did this, they eventually sent me his Social Security Application, which was in fact quite helpful as it stated both his parents. So for anyone in the future who want to order a family members Social Security Application, you should just include a death certificate or obituary when you mail the initial request. David On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 6:22:46 AM UTC-7, pkathy wrote: Two months ago I sent for the social security application for someone. I received it in the mail but they had blanked out the names of the parents. The accompanying letter said they would send them if I could provide proof such as an obit that they were deceased. This was for 'privacy'. How could I when I didn't know their names? The ss application was for a person I was researching who passed away in 1968! I wasted my money on that request! Kathy Sent from my iPhone -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Social Security
Cheri, If you are requesting the SS-5 of John Smith, you also need to send in John Smith's death certifcate or obituary. You DO NOT have to send any death or obit for the parents of John Smith. It is silly that they cannot look in their own database to find out the info, but I guess for some reason it is too much of a hastle for them, lol. Anyways, hope this clears things up. Dave On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 2:52:48 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: David, OK, let me get this straight, as I may have misinterpreted Kathy98's original post. If I am requesting the SS-5 of John Smith, I need to send in John Smith's death certificate or obituary, correct? (They can't look in their own death index to figure this out?) I understood Kathy98 to say that they wanted the death or obits of the PARENTS of the deceased. Guess my brain wasn't functioning this morning! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Creating An Index for the Records
I have been starting to index obitos from Graciosa at the FHL in Oakland and have gotten permission to do so from the directors there, as long as I provide them a copy of the index when I am finished for their library. Just thought I would let everyone know. Thanks, David On Mar 13, 9:07 pm, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Jesse, I think the contract is over the usage of THEIR films. I'll let everyone know next month. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
