Re: [Elecraft] RES: Yamaha CM500

2011-01-10 Thread Gary Gregory
Hector,

I too love my CM-500 but then I set the RX EQ to suit and I don't have
a 'collection' of headsets...certainly would not waste money on Heil
gear...too rich for my blood and they are not real robust.

Also found with the Heil stuff you have to do some serious adjustment
on the TX EQ which would make microphone changes cumbersome.

I have settings now that enable me to use an old Turner +3 on the
front panel and CM-500 on the rear. I am told there is little to no
difference in audio from those who know my rather terrible voice. I
was not blessed with broadcast quality vocal chords...:-)

Now my XYL (this is strange) has a great voice for HF and everyone who
chats with her comments on the audio and tell her she sounds better
than the OM...:-(...now that does suck!!!

The settings you sent me way back when Hector work great for me, well
done with your testing back in the early days..My CM-500 is a definite
keeper.

Thanks again Hector for your posts on the reflector, always fun to
read and I often learn just a little bit more.

73's

Gary  Jennie (VK4JLG)

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Ok,then because you don't like and I love it,do you want to sell it to me ?

 AD4C



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 --- On Mon, 1/10/11, ab2tc ab...@arrl.net wrote:


 From: ab2tc ab...@arrl.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RES: Yamaha CM500
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Monday, January 10, 2011, 8:38 PM



 Hello again,

 I am not talking about anything above 2700Hz at all. With my receive
 bandpass set to 300-2700Hz the CM-500 sound definitely muffled compared to
 any other headphones I have. Yes, I could compensate with the EQ, but then
 it would be unuseable with any other headphones I have since there is no
 macro support to quickly change the RX EQ settings quickly. Until that
 happens the CM-500 stays shelved in my shack.

 AB2TC - Knut


 AD4C2009 wrote:

 Lack of highs? Not mine,besides,does any ham transmit today with more than
 4000Hz at the high end? answer is NO,most of them are below 3000Hz,at that
 freq ANY headset will response well.Also I injected an audio generator to
 my CM-500 from 20 to 5000Hz and I heard the tone from 60(my ears) all the
 way up to 5000Hz with same level,I don't see why they has lack of
 highs.Besides the K3 has an excellent RX EQ and you can tailor the
 received audio to your personal taste so If you think it has too much
 lows,then cut them up with it.
 I have been using those Yamaha for more than a year and for me they sound
 as well as ANY other headset. Maybe some users feel bad because they are
 cheap compared with Heil, Senhisser,and others.

 AD4C
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/RigExpert TI-5

2011-01-09 Thread Gary Gregory
Amen Don, you just hit the nail right on the head.

I struggled with an interface box and set it aside and got the K3/PC
hookup working and never did bother with the interface box after that
as I found the current setup does it all.

KISS is the Portable Operators 'Bible' for me now..:-)

73''s
Gary

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:
  Joe,

 My apologies to your products, but I have been a long and strong
 believer in the KISS principle.  Keep It Simple Stupid.  Yes, there
 are accessories that make things more usable, but at the expense of
 simplicity.  Every device added to the combination of things to put a
 signal on the air adds to the complexity of the entire setup.  And that
 added complexity adds to the number of devices that can fail, and adds
 exponentially to the number of setup combinations that are possible -
 some combinations will work, others will almost work, and a lot of other
 combinations result in requests for help here on the Elecraft
 reflector.  None of those combinations are a K3 problem, but are a
 result of the complexity of the various components in the users station
 setup.

 Since the K3 does support digital modes direct from a computer
 soundcard, it would be prudent IMHO for users to try that combination
 first before committing to the extra features afforded by an external
 interface box.

 In two cases in the last two days, we have encountered problems on
 this reflector where the user of an external interface box had problems
 because the audio levels presented to the K3 were at microphone level
 instead of line level - simply because the interface box manufacturer
 did not consider that any transceiver would be using line level inputs.
 Your Microham interface boxes may give consideration to line level input
 (I don't know one way or the other), but many do not even consider
 anything other than mic level input.  I am not targeting the Microham
 products, but am simply indicating that many digital interface boxes do
 not consider line level audio input to the transceiver.

 Again with the KISS principle, the more functions that are placed in the
 interface box, the more complex the entire station operation becomes.
 Once properly set up, it can be a benefit, but for those who are
 initially venturing into digital modes, the variety of setup tools and
 menus for a particular interface box can be overwhelming.  This is not a
 K3 problem.  Set things up using the simplest connections possible, and
 determine that the K3 works.  Then add the interface box - if it does
 not work, then it should be obvious that some setup parameter for the
 interface box is the problem and the user should direct his questions to
 the interface box reflector and not bring implications that the K3 is
 faulty.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 1/9/2011 8:06 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

 In other words (for those using a K3), an additional soundcard may be
 a better solution than one of the Digital Interface boxes.

 That depends entirely on the feature set the user needs.

 1) The K3 can not switch between soundcard input and microphone
    input based on PTT source to support DVK from logging software
 2) The K3 can not automatically control band switching in an Icom
    PW-1 or other CI-V compatible accessories.
 3) The K3 does not have a keyer compatible with the three major
    contest loggers and several major day to day loggers.

 I'm sure I can come up with two or three more features if pressed.
 In any case, dismissing the digital interfaces rather than helping
 K3 users make their equipment coexist properly is rather short
 sighted.

 73,

    ... Joe Subich, W4TV
        microHAM America, LLC.
        http://www.microHAM-USA.com
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM


 On 1/9/2011 7:29 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
    Bob,

 Your assertion that one does not have to use the normal computer
 soundcard is well received.  BUT there is no need to use one of the
 Digital Interfaces just to get the soundcard function.  There are
 plenty of external soundcards available at less cost than the digital
 interfaces, and for those with desktop computers, adding an internal
 soundcard (in addition to the normal Windows soundcard) is an easy thing
 to do.  Most applications will let you select which soundcard should be
 used.

 In other words (for those using a K3), an additional soundcard may be a
 better solution than one of the Digital Interface boxes.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 1/9/2011 6:59 PM, Bob Naumann wrote:
 The TI-5 has a USB sound card in it. The idea is so you don't have to
 interfere with your normal computer's sound card.

 I have a TI-5 and it works nicely - although I do FSK RTTY so the
 transmit
 levels are not something I have to mess with.

 73,

 Bob W5OV

 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tony Estep
 Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 2:50 PM
 To: Elecraft
 Subject: 

Re: [Elecraft] let's see

2011-01-06 Thread Gary Gregory
Depends on whether you want to buy a Status Symbol or whether you
want a great portable, DX and CW rig that is at the top of the list
for contesters and DXpeditions alike.

Hmmm...now that's a no brainer in my book...I certainly don't miss my
FTdx-9000D in any way whatsoever.

But there are those in this world with a love of Cockpit Lights in
the shack, money is not a consideration, desire for a Big radio is
strong but performance is not at the very top of their priority list.

The argument for and against each of these radios, and you could add
the IC-7800 into the mix as well, has been thrashed out here
before...bit like that Ol question what's the best radio money can
buy?

Guess that's just another example of a great hobby that suits so many
different styles/type of operating be it contesting, rag chewing,
particular mode, particular band and so the list goes on and on.

I have owned some GOOD radios from each of the Big 3 JA factories
and each time I thought I was happy but after the shine wore off the
receipt the shortcomings started to annoy me somewhat so the search
for that perfect rig resumed.

Nearly 3 years ago now I found the K3 and times have been great and
the receipt has long faded so I can't see the price anymore but the
enjoyment of the K3 remains and appears to grow stronger every time I
twirl a knob and tap a couple of buttons as I play radio.

To my way of thinking this is what the hobby means to me...ENJOYMENT
and RELAXATION and USING my radio, the rest of it just fades into the
background these days.

TEHO

73's
Gary

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Jack Brindle jackbrin...@earthlink.net wrote:
 $7500 for a K3? Maybe that for two K3s?

 Jack Brindle, W6FB


 On Jan 6, 2011, at 5:17 PM, tony rowland wrote:

 now let's see how this work's out. k-3 w/ all bells and whistles vs
 dx ft9000mp
 weight 98 lbs.vs what about 10?
 cost north of 13,.00 usd
 around what 7500.oo usd for a full blown k-3.
 buttons i don't have a clue as to what they do.
 if i put it together i have a good idea how it work's.
 power 13.5 volt k-3
 may need to rewire your shack. dx ft 9000mp
 clear winner the k-3 IMHO

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Re: [Elecraft] ON4UN has a K3?

2011-01-04 Thread Gary Gregory
Absolutely True.

73's
Gary

On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Tommy Alderman
alderm...@windstream.net wrote:
 Oh Bill -- there you go again! Selling yourself short. I feel quite sure I
 am not alone in saying that the three ham operators who are always worth
 listening to are W8JI, ON4UN,  AND  W4ZV! The collective knowledge of you
 three is just overwhelming. And thanks for sharing!

 73,

 Tom - W4BQF



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 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ON4UN has a K3?



 Arie Kleingeld PA3A-2 wrote:

 So what if ON4UN has a K3?


 Since ON4UN has won 70% First Places and 20% Second Places (EU or World) in
 100 international contests over a 20 year period, I place a lot of
 credibility in his opinions...not to mention his world high DXCC standing on
 80m and EU high on 160m.  Ditto for for W8JI's contest results and opinions.

 I pay attention to what both of these guys say because they DO know what
 they are doing...as demonstrated by results.

 73,  Bill
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Re: [Elecraft] Latest Sherwood table

2010-12-31 Thread Gary Gregory
Room for some Wine?

Nah, not good, my bones will fall out of my legs I'm told.

Gary HNY 2 all

On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Bruce Beford
bruce.bef...@myfairpoint.net wrote:
 On Dec 31, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

 What gets me in a K3 is that there is still some room in there, even
 after installing the KRX3 to the 100W transceiver, to add something
 else.  So far the possibilities haven't tickled my fancy.

 We're saving it for a fuel cell :)

 Wayne
 N6KR


 Mr. Fusion?
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Re: [Elecraft] ref david uk

2010-12-28 Thread Gary Gregory
Tony,

The folks on this list are superb (take a bow gentlemen) and it is
these same folks who will do everything they can to help you.

Keep'em coming mate...:-)

Now get that pesky exam over and done with, we need some new operators
to work..:-)

73's
Gary

On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Vic K2VCO v...@rakefet.com wrote:
 But...how can you tell they are stupid if they are unasked?

 And what about the above question? It is both stupid and asked!

 :-)

 On 12/28/2010 2:20 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

 To be honest, the only stupid questions are the ones not asked. :-)

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Mods for wide band transmiting?

2010-12-26 Thread Gary Gregory
I got over 11M operation shortly after gaining my amateur licence and
it surprises me that 11M operators would want to spend the money on a
K3 when there is a plethora of gear around that is still easy to
'open' up at a fraction of the cost of a K3.

In VK, 11M operations appear to be concentrated on 27.355 LSB and
27.555USB and I wonder just how many of these operators would even
consider a K3 given the price tag.

As for any 'double standard' it should be made a compliance rule that
ALL amateur gear be made extremely difficult to convert IF that is
what the authorities want. The regulator in VK appears to be not
interested in CB but rather in upping the cost to become an amateur
and licence renewal fees and chasing the commercial dollars.
Enforcement activities seem to be off their 'Radar' at the moment.

The language you here on CB down under would embarrass even a truck
driver. (OH, I was one of the drivers who avoided 11M CB)

We have an 'outback' HF service which requires SelCall ID fitted to
all radios and NO amateur rig meets with their approval so to open up
a K3 to TX on these frequencies is an exercise in futility these days.

Each of us has a differing opinion it seems which is OK with me at least.

73's
Gary
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 4:09 PM, juergen plebia...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi Jeff

 A weird policy really since the K3 is neither type accepted for MARS, NTIA, 
 aeronautical or the maritime service.

 Its double standards saying on the one hand that its ok to use the K3 on one 
 particular HF service  even though its it illegal,  then go onto say that it 
 wont be allowed on the CB service.

 To me it does not matter since I use a TS480HX and its IMD performance at 100 
 watts  meets spectral purity standards for all HF services at 100 watts of 
 output. The TS480HX is good radio at 100 watts of output. I use my 480HX in 
 both my sailing and flying hobbies and it works great.

 At least if you wanted to  stand on the high moral ground, out of band 
 transmission on any non amateur band on the K3 should not be allowed. You at 
 least would have some credibility on the issue.

 73
 John

 --- On Sat, 12/25/10, Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF vk4bof.elecr...@gmail.com 
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 From: Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF vk4bof.elecr...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Mods for wide band transmiting?
 To: DM7ZQ 73...@gmx.net, elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Saturday, December 25, 2010, 9:03 PM
 Benjamin,
 Speaking from experience, the 'wideband' software 'tool'
 will indeed allow the K3 to transmit outside of most bands
 but operation on 27MHz is still recieve only even after the
 usage of said software 'tool'.

 Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF
 Innisfail, QLD, Australia
 Elecraft K3# 4257

   - Original Message -
   From: DM7ZQ
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   Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 5:18 AM
   Subject: [Elecraft] K3: Mods for wide band
 transmiting?



   Hello Elecrafters, merry christmas,
   how can i tune my Elecraft K3 to transmit on ´wide
 band coverage´ e.g. 11m
   Band?
   I know, i need an Software plug-in!? How can i get
 this?
   Thanks for a short answer, 73 de Benjamin, DM7ZQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Reason to NOT buy a K3?

2010-12-26 Thread Gary Gregory
and KPA-500's and KAT-500's and

Sheesh...when will it end?

:-)

Gary

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Yeah, stuff like K1's, K2's, P3's

 Wes  N7WS

 --- On Sun, 12/26/10, Mike Morrow k...@earthlink.net wrote:

 From: Mike Morrow k...@earthlink.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] Reason to NOT buy a K3?
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 8:28 PM
 It was asked if there's a Reason to
 NOT buy a K3?

 Yes, there is.  The list that is dedicated ONLY to the
 K3 (elecraft@mailman.qth.net),
 has for several years sometimes (almost one every several
 hundred K3 postings), been
 disrupted by a posting about non-K3 topics.

 How rude!  :-)

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[Elecraft] K3 Xmas

2010-12-23 Thread Gary Gregory
To Eric, Wayne and ALL the employees at Elecraft, the XYL (VK4JLG) and
myself  wish you all a joyous xmas and a happy and prosperous New Year
Holiday season.

Kindest Regards,
Gary  Jennie

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Re: [Elecraft] Solved: CM500 mic keeps cutting out midsentence

2010-12-20 Thread Gary Gregory
Use your EQ more, no need for external audio gear here.

To make your voice sound more 'round'...peak your low freq settings.

Again, keep playing with the EQ settings and you should get the desired
audio.

73's
Gary

On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Jeff Hall (W6UX) w...@arrl.net wrote:

 Thanks to everyone who offered their suggestions!

 I am not sure what happened, but the problem cleared up simply by accessing
 my uRouter software for the MKII and toggling from Front mic to Rear, then
 back to Front.  Once I did this I immediately noticed the CMP and ALC bars
 back to their desired peaks (5-7 for ALC, 10 for CMP).

 I worked with a local audiophile over the air and we settled on the
 following settings:

 Mic Sel: rPL.bias
 Mic: 30
 Cmp: 20
 VOX Delay: 1.2 (for rag chews; use something shorter for contesting)
 VOX Gn: 50
 AntiVox: 25

 The tone of my voice was still a bit nasal to him, so we adjusted the TX EQ
 as follows:

 50 Hz @ +0 dB
 100 Hz @ +0 dB
 200 Hz @ +8 dB
 400 Hz @ +2 dB
 800 Hz @ -16 dB
 1600 Hz @ -2 dB
 2400 Hz @ +0 dB
 3200 Hz @ +0 dB

 He suggested I consider adding a Behringer Shark DSP110 to soften up my
 tone
 and give it a warmer, fuller sound.  They can be had cheap on eBay so I may
 pick one up to experiment with.

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Re: [Elecraft] Soldering Naked

2010-12-18 Thread Gary Gregory
'Chuckle'...OK...I guess the 'blob' of metal from the MIG welder that
entered my boot and caused me to star in an unscripted episode of 'Dancing
with the Sparks' pales into insignificance.

My wife is still laughing at my antics but at least Mr. Happy is remains
undamaged in my case the embarrassment level is somewhat less than yours.

Enjoy the Xmas break all:-)

73's

Gary

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.comwrote:

 Mr. Happy likes the K3 No Solder Kit.


 Steve
 N4LQ
 - Original Message -
 From: Rex Lint r...@lint.mv.com
 To: 'Phil Townsend' phi...@mac.com; 'Barry' w...@comcast.net
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 10:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Soldering Naked


 This same thing happened to me - I was about 35 at the time and I threw the
 soldering iron across the room and it landed on the rya shag rug, burning
 an
 outline of the iron into the wool rug.

 I've still got the scar - see, right here...

 and the project was a HW-202...

  -Rex-

 K1HI
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 -Original Message-

  Phil Townsend wrote:
 
  I was 12 years old... I think it was a Heathkit HW ???
  I woke up early ready to sling solder. My bed was next to my
  shack/workbench.
  The parents and sister were all sleeping...
  Then it happened...
  A large blob of solder slipped off the iron onto Mr Happy! (My new best
  friend)
  Shrieking and shouting... the blob stuck.
  The noise from my room awakened Sister and her sleepover friend. (The
 one
  I had the sweets for.)
  They stormed into my room followed by Mom and Dad.
  Sisters friend was first into the room causing her to squeal as she
 tried
  to turn around and run out of the door she just came into.
  Thereby running into Sis and parents.
  The solder was still stuck and still hot.
  By parents wanted to call the Doctor...but I had enough humiliation for
  one day so my Mom gave me the ointment and that was that.
  Durring breakfast no one said anything about the early morning event.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] linking K3 with PC with blue tooth

2010-12-14 Thread Gary Gregory
Neat device, shame we couldn't do audio as well..:-(

Gary

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Gary n6...@cox.net wrote:

 Yes. Search for IOGEAR GBS301.
 Gary
 N6LRV

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 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Johnny Siu
 Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 5:27 AM
 To: Elecraft
 Subject: [Elecraft] linking K3 with PC with blue tooth

 Hello Group,

 We now have either RS232 or USB converter to link K3 with the computer.  Is
 there a way to link K3 with the computer by blue tooth?


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Re: [Elecraft] Re: Raves about the K3

2010-12-12 Thread Gary Gregory
Hey, now what about a custom desktop case made to match the Elecraft K
series equipment with slide in/out drawers (lockable via spring loaded
screws) so that one BIG box shack becomes a reality.

The huge advantage is IF an issue arises, simply 'pull' the defective item
from the box and do what needs to be done but still have a somewhat
functional rig IF the K3 is not at fault.

I might even consider doing this myself so that for portable use I have just
one box to pack up when on the move.

Maybe a part number could be K3LB-500...:-)

K3 = Radio
LB = Large Box
500 = Total output power

Aaaah...nice to dream eh?

Now to think of a way to install a 'swing lifter' to heave the box from
storage to desk...:-(

73's
Gary

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 and then, to make it all weigh more, stick some Dynamat Xtreme in the
 boxes. At about 0.5lb/ft^2 you should be able to increase the weight
 on your desk by several pounds.

 73, Byron N6NUL

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  Since the K3, P3 and KPA500 are the same height, you may want to figure
  out how to attach one to the other (metal strips on the bottom come to
  mind), so it is all one big unit.

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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Blanker Problems

2010-12-11 Thread Gary Gregory
Yes Geoff, 4.22 appears effect the DSP NB more here with me also.

I rarely use it but in the last few days I have been trying it out and I am
noticing a lot more artifacts than before.

73's
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On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 5:29 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz wrote:

 Not here Geoff, but I can't really tell. I assume there will be distortion
 any time one goes whacking great holes in the spectrum of a signal to
 blank noise pulses, and that will vary widely based on the strength of the
 signal, presence of nearby signals and many other factors.

 IIRC the exact nature of the process based on the settings for the NB in
 the
 K3 has changed from firmware rev to firmware rev too.

 Ron AC7AC

 -Original Message-

 Dave,

 It's also my impression that the DSP noise blanker introduces more
 distortion on SSB signals in Firmware 4.22 than in previous firmware. I
 haven't rolled back to a previous version to check it out like you have but
 I will next week.

 Anyone else notice this?

 73 to all

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Re: [Elecraft] new firmware release

2010-12-11 Thread Gary Gregory
Hmmm, not sure why you need to switch off twice, once IS required as noted
in the K3 Manual and that has been the case with mine from day one.

Never had a FW download failure...yep, I got'em crossed now folks...:-)

73's
Gary

On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:07 AM, wf4o foste...@gmail.com wrote:


 Thanks,I haven't heard that before, but I will certainly do this from now
 on. It does seem to involve the MCU module etc. Thanks again.
 On Dec 11, 2010, at 4:00 PM, G4LNA [via Elecraft] wrote:

  I used to get problems when I used to download the firmware and used the
 rig straight away and I found that if I switched the rig on and off twice in
 a row it functions perfectly after that, so I follow that procedure every
 time I load the firmware now and never get a problem.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice was; noise reduction

2010-12-08 Thread Gary Gregory
Perhaps the small group seeking insights into the design of the K3 could
show us all where this information has been supplied by Y,K  Y etc?

I am sure it is not high on Elecraft's list of 'things to do' and so it may
be quite a while before the information you seek is released.

Already the competitors have sat up and taken notice of just how good the K3
has become and are now scrambling to bring products out that can offer
competing specifications.

Just my 2 cents worth...keep the change :-)

73's
Gary

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 3:20 AM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
n...@n5ge.comwrote:


 Each new version of the firmware (including beta versions) comes with a
 description of the changes made.  In fact the document included describes
 each
 change that the update includes dating back to MCU 1.65 and DSP 1.52,
 1-28-08.
 You don't have to ask for it.  The file name is hfwnotes.rtf and you can
 find it
 at the URL below...

 ftp://ftp.elecraft.com

 What else do you want to know about the firmware that isn't proprietary?

 73,

 Tom Childers
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 [snip]
 With respect, it seems to me that the secret sauce in the K3 is largely
 in the FIRMWARE, which is why I carefully avoided
 even mentioning it, let alone asking for descriptive material on it.
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Re: [Elecraft] dangles

2010-12-07 Thread Gary Gregory
Chas,

Now that was TOO funny.

:-)

Gary

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 Or, a child to her father at bedtime:  What did you bring that book that I
 didn't want to be read to out of up for?



 If one is to break a rule of grammar, he might as well smash it.



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 KAT3 strange behaviour

2010-12-05 Thread Gary Gregory
Hi Tony,

The open wire feeder was at fault as the route I had used had a bend which
made a parallel path and when I straightened this out the issue went away.

All is now as it should:-)

Thanks for the info mate.

Gary

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  On 12/05/2010 11:40 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
   From: Gary Gregorygaryvk...@gmail.com
  ...using a double extended zepp I find it tunes all bands except 20M
   consistently but for a couple of weeks it has been fine.
  
   The KAT3 will tune to 1.1:1 BUT the swr meter fluctuates...

  Gary, in my case the fluctuating SWR indication turned out to be
 attributable to my station ground setup. It seems that just a small amount
 of RF on the feedline can create this symptom. My non-resonant antenna
 comes
 into a balun, then the coax goes through a line isolator, and thence to the
 rig. There is a counterpoise arrangement connected at the balun which has
 served satisfactorily to ground everything with a couple of antennas.
 However, when I put up a new one, I got the symptom you describe. Some
 tweaking of the grounding scheme completely cured it.

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[Elecraft] K3 KAT3 strange behaviour

2010-12-04 Thread Gary Gregory
G'Day all.

Just now, using a double extended zepp I find it tunes all bands except 20M
consistently but for a couple of weeks it has been fine.

The KAT3 will tune to 1.1:1 BUT the swr meter fluctuates to 3:1 but does*not
* generate HI SWR on the display.

All other bands this behavior does not occur.

Press and hold tune at 5W and up to 100W the swr shows stable. Without the
KAT3 the zepp is 1.4:1 and reads stable.

SSB Tx however produces this fluctuating swr reading which reaches as high
as 3:1

Scratching my head here as all other bands 80 thru 10M this swr problem does
not appear.

It started during a qso and the other station reported a jump in signal
strength from S2 to S9 on 20M

Any clues from the group would be most helpful.

73's
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[Elecraft] K3 KAT3 strange behavior

2010-12-04 Thread Gary Gregory
Hmmm,

Well it appears the BALANCED LINE feeder had developed an impedance bump
somehow. Rerouting the feed line appears to have corrected the issue and now
appears that the K3 likes it again.

Gee, sometimes these little weird things bite us. (well maybe just me...:-)
? )

Anyhoo, will see what happens next.

73's
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: noise reduction performance

2010-12-01 Thread Gary Gregory
James,

I concur. There is a noticeable drop in 'audio level' when I activate NR and
it does not depend on the settings from what I can tell.

I would hope this does creep up the list quite a bit as I feel it has been
left as a dormant issue long enough.

Gary

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 2:13 AM, James Sarte (K2QI) k2qi@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Lyle!

 Indeed, this is a very subjective issue. One issue though that many will
 probably agree with me on is the decrease in audio fidelity whenever NR is
 engaged; i.e. volume of speech drops in relation to NR.  Would it be
 possible to alter the algorithm to prevent this from happening?

 It seems to me like the current NR algorithm reduces *everything* within
 the
 passband, including spoken word.

 73,
 James K2QI

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  Psycho-acoustics is fun!  Some people swear by the K3 NR, others swear
  at it :-)
 
  Making further changes to the K3 NR remains a possibility, but is not a
  particularly high priority at the moment.  Priorities can and do
 change...
 
  73,
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Interesting Conversation about FT-5000 vs K3

2010-12-01 Thread Gary Gregory
Actually there are 8 K3's on Kermadec...so they told us.

Even have one set up as a 6M beacon.

Forgot to ask what amps they were using...oh well..:-)

73's
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On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 2:27 AM, Jim Sheldon w...@cox.net wrote:

 Yup,
 I just worked ZL8X on 30 meters a while ago.  My IC-7000 (soon to be
 replaced by a K3/P3 combo) could barely hear them off my Butternut HF2V
 vertical, but once I got the split set to where they were listening, grabbed
 'em first call.  I know they have some K3's there and I'd almost bet dollars
 to donuts that the op on the Kermadec end was running one.  I'd also bet
 that if I had a K3 in place of that little IC-7000, I wouldn't have had any
 trouble hearing them at all.

 Jim - W0EB

  Isn't it amazing the subjects that come up when someone's favorite
  non-Elecraft radio company is getting it's butt kicked in the
  contest wars.  That more K3 than anything else combined at the
  WRTC really rankled some nerves.  I don't think I have ever heard
  will the company still be here in 10 years used before in a
  discussion about what radio to buy.  They are really getting
  desperate.
 
  73, Guy.

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[Elecraft] KPA-500

2010-11-29 Thread Gary Gregory
Seasons Greetings,

Is there any further word on a possible release date/month for the 'new'
tuner?

Just curious as I could sure use one to make portable set-up a little easier
for me.

Regards
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Re: [Elecraft] Re: KPA-500

2010-11-29 Thread Gary Gregory
Hi Johnny,

Yes, me too. Also I got confused with the KAT-500 which I also really need
so I can use the remote version attached to my trailer and just use a single
feedline to the Motorhome.

I can use the Yagi tri-bander, a 40M vertical and a double extended Zepp for
40/80M etc.

I understand the KPA-500 is due out January/February and I think the tuner
is due after that but that is old information and some indication from
Elecraft would be beneficial for those of us waiting in limbo.

Regards
Gary

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Johnny Siu vr2...@yahoo.com.hk wrote:

 Hello Gary,

 I also like to know the time table.  Otherwise, I will go for SPE Expert
 1k-fa.
  cheers,


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 Seasons Greetings,

 Is there any further word on a possible release date/month for the 'new'
 tuner?

 Just curious as I could sure use one to make portable set-up a little
 easier
 for me.

 Regards
 Gary



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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] ZL8X on 160 from Arkansas

2010-11-24 Thread Gary Gregory
Grin...a mile wide...

Heard ZL8X calling CQ so I thought heck, why not...went back on my Double
extended Zepp and busted through on the first try...oh yeah..pass the
kool-aid folks...how does it get any better than this?

Without a K3 and the ever trusty toolbox supplied as standard I doubt I
would have got throughwow

Nothing else matter when you got the K3 rockin...

:-)

Now how can I get my head through the motorhome door now...:-)

73's
Gary

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 3:55 AM, Roger D Johnson n...@roadrunner.comwrote:

 Nick-WA5BDU wrote:
  I've been turning on 160 the first thing in the morning for a couple
  weeks, ever since putting elevated radials under my inverted L, and
  hearing nothing but noise and a couple U.S. super stations calling CQ
  DX.  Did I mention there was a wasp on the window outside my room
 yesterday?
 
  So this morning the cluster reported that he was on 1.826.5 and
  eventually I was able to barely hear him.  Using every trick in the K3's
  tool box including APF, I could finally make him out sending his call,
  but he was ESP level.  I put in my call a few times without much hope of
  working him.  After one last time, I decided to go cook some oatmeal and
  maybe check again in 30 minutes, so I pushed the TX standby switch on
  the rig as I always do when I walk away from it. I don't want the cats
  working DX with my call.
 
  Just as I was pulling the phones off, I heard: DU?  So I mashed the TX
  standby switch for the eternity of one-half second it takes to go back
  to active.  While doing this, I felt a tiny breeze on the back of my
  hand -- that red wasp was attempting a landing.  I heard the beep and
  moved my hand to the paddle, the wasp landed on the K3's display, and I
  sent 'WA5BDU' a couple times.  He came back 'WA5BDU 5NN' and naturally
  he was 5NN too.  New 160M country in the log and another thing to be
  thankful for.
 
  73-
 
  Nick, WA5BDU
 
 

 WOW! A DX wasp!

 73 and congrats, Roger


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 wish list

2010-11-18 Thread Gary Gregory
I would like to be able to 'switch' such a feature On/Off without any
external 'box'

As I am operating portable all the time there is a need for me to check this
daily.

YMMV

Gary

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Howard K2HK k...@arrl.net wrote:




 I assume Alan monitors the reflector :-). Hope he is sufficiently
 interested.

 Howard..K2HK
 Smith's:

 Agreed, I concur with you. I don't need any more boxes on my desk either,
 especially when a button on the Menu could turn off the RS-232 'mute'
 control.. seems like a pretty easy thing to do to me. Just thought that I
 would give you a work around for the time being.
 Be sure to send your ideas to Alan.. he's the only one that can program it
 into the P3



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 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 02:53:31 +
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 wish list


 That's an easy fix. But I have so many boxes on my desktop and it would
 seem more natural to me to be incorporated into the P3. Doesn't seem like it
 would be a major project.
 Howard..K2HK

 Smith's wrote:
 you could always use an A/B serial box and just switch to B when you want
 to do your testing. That's an easy up front solution if they don't add
 that ability for you.


 From: k...@arrl.net
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 02:26:25 +
 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 wish list


 I found checking and adjusting the K3 output on the P3 a useful function.
 Would it be difficult to make it a front panel function w/o the need to
 reach in the back and remove the RS232 cable?

 Howard..K2HK



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 wish list

2010-11-18 Thread Gary Gregory
Alan,

I too find it useful BUT I am happy to wait for a 'better' solution.

I understand 'in the future' there maybe be a hardware option to add this
and perhaps 'other' features from previous emails so for now I wait and
watch.

I was never sure if the P3 would be a 'keeper' for me but it is here now and
after playing with it I can't see how I got along without it in the
beginning...:-)

Sometimes Elecraft 'force' us to buy stuff..:-(

Just too many good engineers with plenty of time on their hands eh?

ROTFL

73's
Gary

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 8:23 AM, N6JW j...@dslextreme.com wrote:


 Hi Alan:

 I certainly understand your reasons for nervousness here.  However,
 I would like to express how much this unofficial feature has been
 helpful to me in setting TX equalizers for three different mic settings
 (macro driven) and two mics (front and rear).  And I often return and
 tinker with these settings for optimization.  In my P3 the feature works
 well, but right now it is clumsy to use, to say the least.

 Here is what I have to do:  Open Config Menu: RS232 which will read
 38000.  Attach a dummy load (or tune to an empty spot in the band).
 Turn on Peak hold, then right away turn RS232 speed to 4800 (this is
 equivalent to removing the cable), talk into the mic, and then tap
 freeze to look at the cumulative audio spectrum!  Set to a narrow span
 (I use 4khz) one gets a lot of good detailed data this way, but is it
 a bit of a fiddle!  If you want to do it again, start over.

 Alan, I know there are interesting options coming down the line with
 some additional hardware required (what else is the sensor opening
 at the back for?)  But in the meantime, the unofficial feature is very
 useful indeed!

 Thanks so much for the fine panadapter.  It has proven itself to be more
 useful than I thought it would be.

 Regards  73

 John, N6JW


 Alan Bloom-2 wrote:
 
  I'm a little nervous about making this an official feature, because
  the signal level is not well-controlled.  It depends on stray leakage
  through a balanced mixer and blow-by past a couple of PIN diode
  switches.  If the mixer in a particular K3 happens to be very well
  balanced or the PIN diodes have extra-low capacitance, there may not be
  enough signal level to adjust the equalizer properly.  It also depends
  on frequency band and transmit power level.
 
  There may be a better way to do this.  It's on my list of things to look
  at as soon as I get time.
 
  Alan N1AL
 
  On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 06:17 +1000, Gary Gregory wrote:
  I would like to be able to 'switch' such a feature On/Off without any
  external 'box'
  
   I found checking and adjusting the K3 output on the P3 a useful
  function.
   Would it be difficult to make it a front panel function w/o the need
 to
   reach in the back and remove the RS232 cable?
  
   Howard..K2HK
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: USB port

2010-11-18 Thread Gary Gregory
I use the USB/serial cable and for me it would mean I junk one piece of
cable.

Being portable, I can set up the tri-band beam on the portable mast with
rotator and feedline and secure it ready to operate FASTER than I can hook
up the K3, P3, interconnect cables for the P3, amplifier, inline meter,
rotator cable, paddle, footswitch, cm-500 headset, external speakers..etc,
etc...go figure eh?...:-)

And I set myself up to be on air in 30 minutes, which I can IF I just plug
in the K3 and a hand mic...:-)

The toys we must have eh?

But it is a blast let me tell you..:-)

73's

gotta go mobile and set up again for another month of DX'ing in a town
called Ravenshoe, Queensland.

Gary

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:57 AM, James Sarte (K2QI) k2qi@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Mike,

 I'm not really asking for anything, other than whether or not the USB
 option
 was still in the works.  I was just curious. The K3 works fine as is with
 its current KIO3 configuration.  I didn't realize, as someone else had
 already pointed out to me off-list, that this topic is akin to beating a
 dead horse.  I guess I must have missed those emails; sorry for bringing it
 up.

 73,
 James K2QI

 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Mike n...@nf4l.com wrote:

  I'm not sure how you envision moving the audio to USB.
 
  I think putting the USB port in the K3 would open a Pandora's box re:
  drivers.
 
  If you're asking to just move the serial to USB adapter into the rig,
 there
  is NO gain.
 
  If you're asking to do away with serial port comms entirely and go to USB
  only,
  you're creating a huge hassle for the software authors, as well as
 opening
  a
  Pandora's box re: drivers for it.
 
  73, Mike NF4L
 
  On 11/18/2010 7:31 PM, James Sarte (K2QI) wrote:
   Hello group,
  
   I know Wayne has mentioned several times in the past that they had
   considered all possibilities when it comes to PC interfaces for the K3,
   including USB.  In fact, he says the following on 16 June, 2009:
  
   The KIO3's digital I/O module could be replaced with one that has USB
   rather than RS232 -- or better yet, both. We planned for this.
  
   The reason we went with RS232 initially is that many hams are still
   using PCs that have only RS232 ports. Those who prefer to use USB can
   use an inexpensive USB-to-RS232 adapter. There is no difference in I/O
   performance between the two methods. 
  
   Just wanted to revisit this topic and find out if anyone has heard
  anything
   more regarding a possible USB interface for the K3.  I know it's not
 for
   everyone, but for myself and perhaps others out there, the ability to
  carry
   all data, including audio on a single cable would be convenient.  Right
  now,
   I'm using a Keyspan USB to RS232 adapter for data, along with two
  separate
   stereo cables for audio.  I don't have any real complaints with that
  setup,
   but could be problematic when transferring the rig around from computer
  to
   computer.
  
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: USB port

2010-11-18 Thread Gary Gregory
Joe, Guy...

Amen.

Now can we see the shipping dates for the KPA-500's and the KAT-500's
please.

Certainly of more interest to me at least than trying to wade through the
MS-OS-BS...:-)

73's
Gary (almost moving)

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.netwrote:

 READ the archives on this.  The USB suggestion has been beaten to a
 bloody pulp over and over again. This subject is like Count Dracula.
 It's like the undead coming out of the corn fields.

 The devil in the proposal is having your K3 fail every time Microsoft
 decides to make another of its several million arbitrary subtle OS
 changes, this time to how Universal (ha! Ha!) serial bus actually
 operates.  And WE will NOT be tested before they dump that into their
 automatic updates to a gazillion copies of MS OS, because we do NOT
 have 20 million K3 users out there to make the consequences of blowing
 us up scare them into actually checking FIRST if it blows us up or
 not, BEFORE they release it.  Come to think of it, based on the
 record, 20 million isn't really enough, is it?  The *U* in USB is a
 complete joke.

 Somebody kill this idea and make it die, and stay dead, please...

 73, Guy

 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 7:31 PM, James Sarte (K2QI) k2qi@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hello group,
 
  I know Wayne has mentioned several times in the past that they had
  considered all possibilities when it comes to PC interfaces for the K3,
  including USB.  In fact, he says the following on 16 June, 2009:
 
  The KIO3's digital I/O module could be replaced with one that has USB
  rather than RS232 -- or better yet, both. We planned for this.
 
  The reason we went with RS232 initially is that many hams are still
  using PCs that have only RS232 ports. Those who prefer to use USB can
  use an inexpensive USB-to-RS232 adapter. There is no difference in I/O
  performance between the two methods. 
 
  Just wanted to revisit this topic and find out if anyone has heard
 anything
  more regarding a possible USB interface for the K3.  I know it's not for
  everyone, but for myself and perhaps others out there, the ability to
 carry
  all data, including audio on a single cable would be convenient.  Right
 now,
  I'm using a Keyspan USB to RS232 adapter for data, along with two
 separate
  stereo cables for audio.  I don't have any real complaints with that
 setup,
  but could be problematic when transferring the rig around from computer
 to
  computer.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-14 Thread Gary Gregory
OTOH, locals here are impressed with the receiver and what the K3 CAN do and
it's inbuilt versatility and great receiver.

Nobody seemed too concerned withthe lack of size, knobs, whistles, clicks
and bells etc offered with 'other' boxes.

If enough people took the time to 'LEARN' how to set up there own K3 such as
on SSB adjusting the Hi/Lo Cut then most would stop complaining about what
some term 'edgy' AF etc.

What constantly amazes me is the barrage of seemingly endless complaints
about some perceived limitation or design deficiency in the K3 when a little
more time spent in front of the K3 'learning' 'how' to use the K3 would
enhance their personal appreciation of a superb radio.

In Australia we live in a 'throw away' or 'trade-in' society due to lack of
manufacturing and I for one appreciate very much the amount of thought and
sweat that has gone into the production of the K3 and being badged Born in
the USA' is a very real factor in deciding what next I will 'acquire'.

Just about everything we turn over to look at the label states 'Made in
China' and whilst many good products come from Asia it is still terrific to
see a very well run company responsive to customer concerns without the
common response of 'send it back for replacement' or trade it in on the next
new 'box' being released to 'fix' the design or manufacturer faults created
at birth.

Oh well, turn of my mouth and sit and receive for awhile now:-)

Flame suit on and zipped up, air bag at the ready :-)

73's
Gary

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:11 PM, riese-k3...@juno.com wrote:

 There's the rub

 members of my local club were not overly interested in my K3 as it doesnt
 have all the
 knobs etc on the front panel, you cant change the color of the display
 and it isnt heavy
 I really find that sad ,, I would get lost from time to time placing my
 TS 850 in a unknown
 state by accidently pushing a wrong button ,, hasnt happened on the K3
 the GUI is great
 but simple and some think simple relates to poor or ineffective
 as I am a casual operator and dont use 1/10 the features avaible but
 wanted a rig that would hold
 up to some of the nasty krap on HF ,,, K3 Rocks,, was fun to build and
 has great support

 Bob K3DJC




  Honestly, it looks like a great radio if you like a lot of knobs
  and
  buttons.  I won't be buying an FTDX5000 anytime soon, as the K3 does
  all of
  that and more at the fraction of the cost, size, and weight.  Plus,
  Elecraft
  has in my opinion the best support in the industry.  For those
  however that
  want a big rig, I think this is the one to beat.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-14 Thread Gary Gregory
Aaah, the humble Holden Commodore. Yes it IS a great car (not a Ford) made
by GM of course.

Have a look at the website for HSV Commodore and you will see the Oz version
of the Pontiac. Awesome cars.

There are few consumer products made here now which is sad but as we only
have some 22 million people here I guess the price of production makes it
all uneconomical to produce...:-(

Elecraft are quite amazing in both their ability to design and manufacturer
a leading contender (if not the best which it is in my personal opinion) HAM
radio transceiver available. Gee, look at what the dealers are asking for an
FT-5000 here and the K3 is by far a better solution. Yaesu still like to
have expensive add-ons to sell and to my way of thinking they do not give me
good value for money.

There service here is legendary...or if you like plain talk...lousy, slow,
expensive and uncommunicative...sorry Eric, that is an honest opinion and I
don't wish to start a kerfuffle on the reflector, but, as I was previously a
Yaesu Dealer I feel I have a right to be critical without denigrating
anyone..:-)

With advent of the KPA-500 and shortly thereafter the KAT-500?...my needs
will be filled and I don't want any of you guys telling Elecraft to build a
K4 coz I aint got room for one and don't want to feel left out...:-)

OK, back in my hole I go

73' to all
Elecraft Rocks...now who stole my Kool-Aid?

Gary

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:00 AM, Johnny Siu vr2...@yahoo.com.hk wrote:

 Hi John,

 Excessive  birdies in K3 will consume a lot of the DSP power in eliminating
 them.  I would think the DSP power should be used / reserved for other
 meaningful radio functions.
  cheers,


 Johnny VR2XMC



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 主題: Re: [Elecraft] Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP


 One of my pet peeves of the K3 is the notch is not within the agc loop and
 yes I know it's not good for IMD but so what. It's not engaged all the
 time.
 The other is excessive birdies which the 5000 does not hardly have any.

 John N1JM


 Johnny Siu wrote:
 
  Hello Craig,
 
  Is there a 'manual notch within AGC loop' in the FTDX5000?  I have not
  read the
  product review yet.
 
  I trust 'manual notch within AGC loop' is a must in any high end
  transceiver.
   cheers,
 
 
  Johnny VR2XMC
 
 
 
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  主題: Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP
 
  I read and enjoyed the review.  It looks like a very good product, and
  will
  no doubt sell well - as it should.
 
  For me the only advantage it would have over my K3/P3 is the integrated
  200
  W capability and integrated power supply with  12V power - both nice
  features.  But I wouldn't consider buying one, the deal breakers being:
  size/weight, audible QSK relay and single color panadapter w/o waterfall.
  Not to mention the more intangibles, such as ease of firmware updates and
  ability to do 80% of the servicing myself.  Close, but no cigar  ;)
 
  73  Craig  AC0DS
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Re: OT: K440XV?

2010-11-13 Thread Gary Gregory
Um, guy's, I am surrounded by millions of acres of real estate and one 2M
repeater...:-)

I would need an eleventeen element yagi on a massive boom to just key it
sometimes from some of the places I frequent...not a worth while investment
for a three thousand dollar radio when my trusty old Yucksu 2M set get's
used once in a blue moon..:-)

On a more serious note though, I know of one K3 out here with the 2M module
and it works quite well but Oz is not really the place where a 70cm option
would sell well..I think

Now if you guys were asking for 4 antenna inputs (tx/rx) that would sure get
my attention...hence I am eagerly awaiting the desktop/remote tuner that is
coming. Wouldn't that be nice to be able to squeeze inside a K3...wow!!!

That would get me running for the check book...:-)

73's I gotta go do some DX on 20M

Gary

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 6:36 AM, Johnny Siu vr2...@yahoo.com.hk wrote:

 Hello James and Gary,

 It is a good idea of K440XV.  However, we have to look at the price as
 well.  If
 you just want something in the FM mode, any price near the K144XV could be
 expensive.  Any FM mobile rig will give you the answer.

 If you go for a real UHF based station, the frequency and power stability
 of
 K440XV are of primary importance.
  cheers,


 Johnny VR2XMC



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 主題: Re: [Elecraft] OT: K440XV?

 That's a good point Gary.  One big difference and advantage with the K3
 though is its modular construction.  If an internal transverter were to go
 kaput, I imagine that one could just disable it in the settings until its
 repaired or replaced.  HF would still work fine.  That may not be the case
 with something like the TS-2000 or Icom's upcoming IC-9100.

 Personally, a UHF rather than VHF option would have been better for me.  I
 could see myself using the K3 as a UHF base station if that option were
 made
 available.  There really isn't that much activity on 2m in my neck of the
 woods except for the local hams who hang out on 146.520.  There are several
 2 meter machines in close proximity, but I've never heard anything on them
 except for the occasional broadcast ID.  On the other hand, NYC has a lot
 of
 activity on 440.  More so than in any other part of the US I've been in.

 Anyway, I may still purchase the K144XV for experimentation.  I've got good
 height at my location, and a small log-periodic for 2m on the balcony might
 be fun to play around with.

 73,
 James K2QI

 On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Yep, wishful thinking I reckon.
 
  There are two options I would not contemplate, 2M and 70CM and for that
  matter any higher frequencies.
 
  DC to Daylight radios might be attractive until something goes wrong,
 then
  your 'all in one box' system CAN take you off air completely and that for
 me
  would be kinda bad...no, make that a disaster...I just gotta have my
 daily
  HF 'fix' :-)
 
  YMMV
 
  Gary
 
  On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 4:26 AM, James Sarte k2qi@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hello group,
 
  Is there any hardware limitation preventing the design and
 implementation
  of
  an internal UHF transverter?  In this day and age of DC to Daylight
 boxes,
  I'm surprised that Elecraft only has a VHF module available for the K3.
   For
  me, 2 meters isn't so useful in NYC.  If given the option, I would
 rather
  have a UHF module in order to take advantage of the many active
 repeaters
  near me.
 
  I know it's a long shot, but it would be nice to have an all-in-one K3
  that
  can go from 160 to 1.2Ghz.  Wishful thinking perhaps?
 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: K440XV?

2010-11-12 Thread Gary Gregory
Yep, wishful thinking I reckon.

There are two options I would not contemplate, 2M and 70CM and for that
matter any higher frequencies.

DC to Daylight radios might be attractive until something goes wrong, then
your 'all in one box' system CAN take you off air completely and that for me
would be kinda bad...no, make that a disaster...I just gotta have my daily
HF 'fix' :-)

YMMV

Gary

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 4:26 AM, James Sarte k2qi@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello group,

 Is there any hardware limitation preventing the design and implementation
 of
 an internal UHF transverter?  In this day and age of DC to Daylight boxes,
 I'm surprised that Elecraft only has a VHF module available for the K3.
  For
 me, 2 meters isn't so useful in NYC.  If given the option, I would rather
 have a UHF module in order to take advantage of the many active repeaters
 near me.

 I know it's a long shot, but it would be nice to have an all-in-one K3 that
 can go from 160 to 1.2Ghz.  Wishful thinking perhaps?

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Amplifier

2010-11-10 Thread Gary Gregory
Nope  :-(

But we are all living in hope :-)

73's
Gary

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 I've been off the reflector for 5 weeks on a cruise in Europe.  Has there
 been any announcement for anticipated delivery.  Thanks

 Phil

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Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3

2010-11-10 Thread Gary Gregory
A 'Nope' from me too please :-)

I didn't think the P3 would be all that important to me, now it is a
fixture, it ain't goin' anywhere.

BUT, I still want to see it monitor the TX audio and CW and although I am
most likely in the minority, it is a personal 'want' and not one that I find
necessary to 'stamp my foot' over :-)

73's
Gary

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE n...@n5ge.com
 wrote:

 My vote is NO...

 Tom
 Radio Amateur N5GE
 QCWA Member 35102

 On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 15:57:30 -0800, ga...@gary-gordon.com  wrote:

 This is to support a previous suggestion on the reflector, to allow
 locking the P3 frequency range displayed despite tuning the K3.  The defacto
 mode of draging and skewing the waterfall makes it unrecognizable, losing
 track of and tune to a new target QSO up the band.   It would seem much
 easier if tuning the K3 just moved a marker across an unmoving P3 display.
  My thoughts are towards operating next Field Day, where I might set the P3
 to display, say, 7.025 through 7.075 KHz.
 
 Of course there would need to be a provision for re-centering the P3,
 most likely to a round number, not the actual K3 frequency.  For example the
 P3 could re-set its center to the nearest frequency marker at the top of the
 the P3.  As an example, assume a P3 set to a span of 50 KHz, where its 10
 markers at the top would then be spaced 5 KHz apart.  Assume a K3 is tuned
 to 7.048 KHz, and the re-center button is pressed.  Consistent with the
 suggestion, then, the center frequency of the P3 would snap to 7.050 KHz,
 and display a span from 7.025 to 7.075 MHz.
 
 Besides the pile-up value another post suggests for this mode, I see it
 equally valuable for contests and for looking for an ongoing QSO.
 73
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Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3

2010-11-10 Thread Gary Gregory
And I couldn't give a hoot what is added..more the better..but for me I
don't feel I 'would' use the feature so I am neutral on whether it appears
or not.

But, sometimes I cop those pesky incoming's and so i keep my flame suit at
the ready every time I post a comment. At least I am getting my money's
worth :-)

Oh, and no I am not being sarcastic or whatever, just highly amused coz I
got too much time on my hands.

Speaking of using the P3, I placed a single CQ the other night and worked
over 100 stations and so would not have used the proposed feature and as I
don't get too serious in contests I don't feel I 'need' the feature either.

Having said all this, I would not want to see others wanting this feature to
miss out.

Aaah..nuff bandwidth used

my 2 cents worth..ya'all can keep the change :-)

73's back to the pile-up

Gary

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Gary Gordon ga...@gary-gordon.com wrote:

 As a new subscriber I didn't want to stir up a hornet's nest, but rather to
 express, from my 55 years of contesting, DX'ing, and band surfing, that the
 exceptional P3 has a rather glaring need for an optional display anchor.

 73, Gary, K6KV


 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tommy Alderman
 Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 7:44 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3

 I think you are speaking for yourself again? I seriously doubt 'most' of us
 want this changed. This is a P3, made by Elecraft and it is not a screen
 from past experiences. It would be much more useful if owners would get
 used
 to the 'new' way a panadapter works instead of asking the Elecraft folks to
 just copy something because you are too (whatever) to learn something new!

 Tom - W4BQF


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 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of The Smiths
 Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:04 PM
 To: w4...@bellsouth.net; ga...@gary-gordon.com
 Cc: Elecraft Reflector
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3


 The feature described is something that most of us have been waiting for.
 Being able to jump around inside a set area and not move the entire display
 along with it not only makes perfect sense, but is extremely helpful for
 those that like to know they're not chasing their tails back and forth
 around the band as they keep tuning in the same signal in a different
 location on the P3 screen OVER AND OVER again.
 Of course Jim, this would be a Feature that could be turned on and off.
 Nothing has to change for you at all.   In the audio world, Locking the
 play head is something we've been doing since the first day digital audio
 was introduced. Now it's a REQUIREMENT.



  From: w4...@bellsouth.net
  To: ga...@gary-gordon.com
  Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:38:47 -0600
  CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3
 
  Personally, I would not change a thing. It is exactly what I want in a
  panadapter.
 
  73s Jim, W4ATK
 
 
  On Nov 10, 2010, at 5:57 PM, ga...@gary-gordon.com wrote:
 
   This is to support a previous suggestion on the reflector, to allow
   locking the P3 frequency range displayed despite tuning the K3. The
   defacto mode of draging and skewing the waterfall makes it
   unrecognizable, losing track of and tune to a new target QSO up
   the band. It would seem much easier if tuning the K3 just moved a
   marker across an unmoving P3 display. My thoughts are towards
   operating next Field Day, where I might set the P3 to display, say,
   7.025 through 7.075 KHz.
  
   Of course there would need to be a provision for re-centering the
   P3, most likely to a round number, not the actual K3 frequency. For
   example the P3 could re-set its center to the nearest frequency
   marker at the top of the the P3. As an example, assume a P3 set to
   a span of 50 KHz, where its 10 markers at the top would then be
   spaced 5 KHz apart. Assume a K3 is tuned to 7.048 KHz, and the re-
   center button is pressed. Consistent with the suggestion, then,
   the center frequency of the P3 would snap to 7.050 KHz, and display
   a span from 7.025 to 7.075 MHz.
  
   Besides the pile-up value another post suggests for this mode, I see
   it equally valuable for contests and for looking for an ongoing QSO.
   73
   Gary K6kV
  
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Re: [Elecraft] NB/NR info Request...

2010-11-02 Thread Gary Gregory
Dave,

I use NR 'most' of the time on 5-2 for SSB. My ears find it better to
understand etc.

I usually adjust Hi/Lo cut to give me a nice rounded audio. I suffer from
Tinitus so my ears are not the greatest :-(

I also find I my bandwidth ends up around 1.7 to 1.9 and I have the 2.8 and
1.8 roofers for SSB

YMMV

Gary

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Dave Hachadorian k...@arrl.net wrote:

 By the way, I have never been able to find any benefit from NR or
 NB in a contest environment.  Maybe my particular noises are
 uncooperative, or maybe I need to try even harder to find a good
 setting.  I have read the advice, and have tried the recommended
 settings.

 Yes, I can get the s-meter to go down, but intelligibility is not
 improved.  In my experience, intelligibility is always best with
 NR and NB OFF.

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 Yuma, AZ








































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Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF Adjustable Q [END of Threads]

2010-11-01 Thread Gary Gregory
Barry said

This is a real problem.  Now I can hear more stations that can't hear me
with
my PW signal :.(
Barry W2UP

And soon our favorite Toy Store will have a fix for that problem with the
KPA-500  :-)

Yeay!!!

Gary

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Barry w...@comcast.net wrote:


 This is a real problem.  Now I can hear more stations that can't hear me
 with
 my PW signal :.(
 Barry W2UP


 Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote:
 
 
  I listened to XV2RZ for quite a while last night on 20 meters.  He was
  only an occasional ping in the noise without the APF but perfectly
  Q5 for well over an hour with the APF engaged.  With my 30 foot high
  Windom and barefoot K3, I did not stand a chance of working him but the
  benefit of the existing APF is night and day.
 

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Re: [Elecraft] Question

2010-10-29 Thread Gary Gregory
Eric,

There you go again with the 'Giants'... :-)
Go Raiders !!!

Gary (quite a ways to go :-(

On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 6:43 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft 
e...@elecraft.com wrote:

 Only if they are directly commenting on or promoting one of their
 non-elecraft products. In general we selcome everyone and it is not
 necessary to say who you are affiliated with on most other posts.

 If their email address clearly discloses who they are (elecraft.com
 etc.) it is not necessary to make an additional statement in the body of
 the email.

 73, Eric  WA6HHQ
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  Should contributors to the reflector disclose and commercial ham radio
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Re: [Elecraft] Thought for possible feature - Do you want to update this setting Y/N?

2010-10-23 Thread Gary Gregory
Please don't!!

Wondowz is bad enough now, I don't want my last bastion of Windowz hideaway
removed...:-)

We don't really want the Bill Gates mentality in our beloved K3 now do we?

Gary
Not computer literate...and staying that way!!

On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 6:05 AM, Radio Amateur N5GE n...@n5ge.com wrote:

 On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 12:27:46 -0700, David Gilbert
 xda...@cis-broadband.com wrote:

 Put me down for a double resounding NO! too.

 
 
 My vote would be a resounding no.  That would practically double the
 nuisance factor of an already deep and broad menu system.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipped But Requires Signature!!!

2010-10-13 Thread Gary Gregory
Good Grief...what's next?...I shudder to think guys.

Gary

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz wrote:

 One person already suggested putting a signed note on our door. Another
 approach I've used is to contact UPS now, before it arrives, and tell them
 it's coming and you want it left without signature. They have a form you
 need to sign (driver will leave it in advance) and with that you can
 receive
 that and any other packages sent to you without signature.

 You can also tell them where to leave the box if your front porch is
 exposed, such as somewhere in the yard or on a back porch (assuming you
 don't have dogs in the yard) or some other out-of-sight location.

 Another option is to have it left at a neighbor's house if you have a
 friend
 home in the daytime. They are set up to do that and get the signature
 there.


 And then there's always your place of work if that's possible for you.
 Years
 ago I received lots of stuff while working at Hewlett-Packard and receiving
 would call me in the internal phone to tell me they had a package.

 Ron AC7AC



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 Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 6:00 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Shipped But Requires Signature!!!


 I can't believe that Elecraft is sending my K3 requiring a signature!  How
 do they expect a working person to be at home when UPS delivers to get a
 signature???  When I ordered the rig over the phone nobody told me that
 this
 is the way they ship.  And to boot, I would have to drive over one hour to
 a
 UPS delivery center to pick up the radio. I certainly hope they will call
 me
 tomorrow and straighten this whole mess out.  This certainly does not give
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: UPS signautre for delivery

2010-10-13 Thread Gary Gregory
Ken,

Now that's too funny...:-)

Gary

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Ken Kopp k...@rfwave.net wrote:


 Probably differs by locale ... Our UPS driver (Frank)
 just opens the shop/shack door and sets the box inside.
 Never have signed for anything ... in decades.

 Then there was the time a UPS operative drove off
 with Frank's idling truck while he was making a delivery.
 Frank's supposed to lock the doors as he steps out for
 -each- delivery. (;-)

 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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[Elecraft] P3 Beta FW

2010-10-13 Thread Gary Gregory
Doing a build of my P3 and wonder if the latest FW is .36?

Had a poke around Nabble but no joy in finding any newer version.

Appreciate any help from the group.

TIA

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Displaying my signal

2010-10-13 Thread Gary Gregory
Don,

Oh YES PLEASE.this has always been number one on my list of P3 features.

It would cause me to no longer be called Grumpy...:-)

73s
Gary

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 Alan,
 Is there a possibility down the road of displaying our signal so we might
 better see what we are sending??
 73,
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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft K3] Volume Level with NR

2010-10-04 Thread Gary Gregory
Hmmm...this topic appears from time to time and in the early days I think it
was relevant. Since Lyle has has worked on the DSP and introduced F1-x  for
CW and 5-x up for SSB there has been a huge improvement.

Perhaps the settings used by those experiencing a big drop in audio levels
are different to mine BUT I have just checked 7.055 listening to an
Indonesian station close to the noise floor.

The result is I hear a lot of band noise and a soft and difficult to
understand SSB conversation, when I use NR (5-2) the noise drops
significantly and the voice is marginally softer but now understandable. and
a QSO would be easy to do providing the other station would be able to copy
me.

I am sure that Lyle will revisit the Algorithm and see if indeed any
improvements can be made BUT for now I am quite satisfied with the NR
functionality.

Having said this, we all experience different band conditions and what works
for one person may not work for all of us.

My 2 cents worth...keep the change

73's
Gary



On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:15 AM, WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com wrote:

 That sure is not what I have observed.  My signals drop about 2 S units if
 they
 are strong.  If they are near the noise level they disappear.  I am running
 F
 1-1.  It is worse if I run a higher NR level.

  Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
 K5EWJ




 
 From: W4GRJ w4...@satterfield.org
 To: Dale Wiese dwies...@mac.com; Elecraft Email 
 elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 4:54:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft K3] Volume Level with NR

 Dale,

 Just for reference, my experience with the K3 NR is outstanding. I cannot
 notice any reduced volume on the tuned signal. The NR on my K3 does a great
 job of whacking out the noise without effecting the signal level.

 You may need to do some checking of settings and calibration, I am sure
 there are folks here that can help you.

 Jack
 W4GRJ


 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dale Wiese
 Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 2:31 PM
 To: Elecraft Email
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Volume Level with NR

 Wayne,

 I am going to disagree - I think its a real issue, and an area for K3
 improvement.  While I have not been to Jim's shack to hear what he is
 hearing, it  sounds like what I have always observed, at least for SSB
 reception.  Engaging the NR significantly reduces the overall audio level.

 When I engage the NR on my MkV or FT-847, the band noise drops away, but
 the
 perceived volume of the monitored voice stays about the same.  It is rare
 that I need to touch the volume control.  Yaesu NR is reasonably effective
 for turning a marginal signal into something that can be copied, and
 turning
 a strong signal with high band noise into something more pleasant to listen
 to.

 On the K3, engaging the NR in SSB drops both the noise and the apparent
 voice level substantially, requiring that the volume control be turned up
 [a
 lot]  to copy the voice.  But then the noise is also increased.
 Frequently it feels like the NR has done little to no good, but it is hard
 to tell.  Perhaps the ratio between the band noise and the desired signal
 is
 improved, but overall I would say its not.  Or not very much.

 The NR difference on SSB between the K3 and the Yaesu products I have used
 is large, and the K3 loses.  It is the _only_ K3 feature I find which is
 sub-par, and only for SSB - NR for CW seems much more effective.

 73,
 Dale
 N9XD


 On Oct 4, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

  Jim,
 
  Some drop in apparent volume level is typical with NR. Part of the
  drop is due to the removal of noise. Part of it may be a
  psychoacoustic effect (sorry, I'm not an expert on this).
 
  You might also try setting F5-1. Settings from F5-x to F8-x use a
  different algorithm.
 
  73,
  Wayne
  N6KR
 
 
  On Oct 4, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Jim Harris wrote:
 
 
  Hi,
 
  I've noticed recently that when I press NR the volume level drops
  what could be called a considerable amount.  I normally use NR
  setting of F-1-1 or -2.  More than that tends to almost mute the
  receiver.  I find that the volume control needs to be increased
  about 70 degrees or so to give the same loudness as before the NR
  was pressed with the above settings.  I have to manually change the
  volume every time I engage or disengage the NR.  I realize that most
  likely there should be some decrease in loudness but this seems to
  be excessive.
 
  Does anyone have any meaningful experience or recommendations they
  can pass along.
 
  Thank you.
 
 
  Take Pride in the USA!
 
  73,  Jim, W0EM
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] SSB transmit audio - Where's the punch?

2010-10-04 Thread Gary Gregory
Nate,

Could this be alleviated when using a Turner +3 microphone.
 in the case of a soft spoken operator?

After reading your post I went and plugged the Turner in and immediately
noticed a more punchy audio..

Does this sound right to you?..I am definitely guilty of speaking too
softly..:-(

73's
Gary

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 You're absolutely correct, David.  Some people are just reluctant to get
 their diaphram into the act and speak with confidence, not just voice
 volume.  I know some folk who will speak at a good volume until they
 grab the mic and then seem to drop 10 dB or so by speaking in almost a
 hushed tone of voice.  As amateur rigs generally don't use compression
 amps in the mic circuits, a strong, confident voice level is essential
 to modulating the radio correctly.  I tell new ops to belly up to the
 microphone as an SSB rig's power output is directly related to how well
 they speak in the mic.  Some seem to get it and others don't.

 Even on FM I have tried to tell ops to speak up which they will for a
 bit and then lapse back into a whisper which is next to impossible to
 copy in a noisy vehicle.

 73, de Nate 

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Re: [Elecraft] [OT]TenTec Hamfest

2010-09-27 Thread Gary Gregory
NO, not yet. Objective discussion on the merits of design philosophy and
construction and operability etc is helpful to many of us.

Of course the Delete key is an option we all know how to use.

I think Eric will wait till the postings become an issue with regard to the
reflector guidelines and at that point he will slap us on the wrist for
being naughty boys...Grin

I have learnt a couple of things so far on the postings and that is a good
thing for me.

73's
Gary

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 6:21 AM, Mike Harris mike.har...@cwimail.fk wrote:

 The subject needs booting off the Elecraft reflector also.

 Regards,

 Mike VP8NO

 - Original Message -
 From: Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com
 To: k6...@foothill.net; Elecraft Reflector
 elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT]TenTec Hamfest


  The main TenTec group is on contesting.com. It's moderated and if
  you say
  anything negative about tentec they will boot you off.
  I made the mistake of complaining about their chirpy Omni VI+ and
  got the
  boot. Haven't had much to do with them for years now.
 
  There are Yahoo groups for individual TT rigs. Go to
  groups.yahoo.com and do
  a search for Eagle.
 
  Steve N4LQ
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net
  To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:34 PM
  Subject: [Elecraft] [OT]TenTec Hamfest
 
 
  Does TenTec have their own reflector?
 
  73,
 
  Fred K6DGW
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  - CU in the 2010 Cal QSO Party 2-3 Oct 2010
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[Elecraft] List SPAM again

2010-09-25 Thread Gary Gregory
I guess everyone got the email or am I just special?

Seems to have come from (g3pjt  @  btinternet.  com)

But not being computer literate (it's still a black art for me) I could be
wrong...yet again.

No Biggie, delete key is still working.

73's
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Re: [Elecraft] 700 Hz roofing filters

2010-09-21 Thread Gary Gregory
More to the point. Examine the filter shape AFTER installation and measure
the actual skirt and width installed.

I think this will tell what benefit it will be.

73's
Gary

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Andrew Moore andrew.n...@gmail.com wrote:

  10/4500 = 0.2% of K3s shipped.  Popular?

 They were never offered with the K3s; this is a first run of this type of
 filter available for the K3.

 10/10 * 100 = 100%;)
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Re: [Elecraft] 700 Hz roofing filters

2010-09-21 Thread Gary Gregory
I have the same configuration as Wayne it would appear and use the same
settings I think.

YMMV

73's
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On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:

 700 Hz is a useful CW/DATA filter bandwidth, certainly. I'm not
 surprised that some K3 owners are interested in this.

 Personally, I prefer much narrow CW/DATA bandwidths, and I use all
 modes. The lineup I use (and generally recommend) is:

 FL1   13 kHz (FM)
 FL2   6 kHz (AM/ESSB)
 FL3   2.7 or 2.8 kHz (SSB and casual CW/DATA tuning)
 FL4   400 or 500 Hz (normal CW/DATA)
 FL5   200 Hz (CW/DATA in heavy QRM)

 73,
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Re: [Elecraft] MCU 4.12 DVR Mon

2010-09-21 Thread Gary Gregory
I have tried the new FW option Wayne has added and agree, it is of great
benefit to the way I operate. I use the DVR a lot and find it is now greatly
improved as I don't want to listen to my own voice on TX...if you heard my
voice you would understand...:-)

73's
Gary

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:

 Hi Martin,

 The new DVR MON adjustment (set up using CONFIG:TX DVR) only applies
 to DVR playback in transmit mode. DVR playback in receive mode can be
 accomplished with the AF GAIN control.

 The reason we added this feature is that some operators only want TX
 monitoring when the DVR is playing back, rather than at all times. Or,
 they want different levels for regular transmit MON versus DVR MON.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR



 On Sep 21, 2010, at 2:02 PM, DM4iM wrote:

  Elecrafters,
  when hitting AF PLAY i notice that you can only adjust the DVR MON
  level
  when you are actually transmitting. There is no change in volume while
  you receive. In other words, when you test this new feature , you need
  to TX . Of course, you can set PWR to 0 or use TEST mode.
  Intended? Do i miss something?
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] 700 Hz roofing filters

2010-09-21 Thread Gary Gregory
I feel compelled to state my objection to any TX capability from ALL amateur
transceiver manufacturers to NEVER allow TX bandwidth in excess of
3Khz..period.

ESSB is unwarranted and a waste of bandwidth and creates havoc wherever it
is used.

In VK we have a small minority who insist on ESSB operation and whilst we
can all find alternative frequencies not suffering from QRM it should be no
surprise to all that sure enough, on 17M were two stations running ESSB on
18.130 or right in about the centre of the SSB portion of the band.

We all love to experiment with different modes but I have to admit I must be
pretty darn slow (or worse) as I do not see why EESB is worth experimenting
with.

But then I may be just too slow..or worse..to understand.

My 2c worth...keep the change
(Flame Suit on)

73's
Gary

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF 
vk4bof.elecr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Joe et al,
 I'm going to hazzard a guess here as to why Elecraft dont allow the 13KHz
 filter for AM/ESSB TX.

 Because it's illegal.
 SSB is called mode A3J in most of the legal documents that govern our
 hobby.
 The reason why the mode is called A3J in all the legal stuff is that the 3
 is the maximum bandwidth in khz that is permitted.)
 Thus, anything more than the 3KHz SSB bandwidth is against the laws that
 govern us.

 The F.C.C. in the US of A and here in Australia, A.C.M.A. both allow a
 maximum of 3KHz for SSB TX bandwidth on any HF band.
 So it would be a fair bet then that because the K3 is a FCC type approved
 radio that part of that type approval includes that it must not transmit SSB
 bandwidths that are wider than permitted.

 My $0.02c worth (Plus GST/VAT/Sales Tax as applicable)


 Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF
 Innisfail, QLD, Australia
 Elecraft K3# 4257

  - Original Message -
  From: Joe Subich, W4TV
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 9:44 AM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 700 Hz roofing filters



  In general I agree with Wayne although I prefer to have a more
  narrow bandwidth option for SSB (1.8 or 1.5 KHz).  In order to
  make room for the 1.5/1.8 KHz filter, I deleted the AM filter
  and use only the FM filter for the low priority modes wider
  than 2.8 KHz.  However, it continues to frustrate me that
  Elecraft have *STILL* not allowed us to use the 13 KHz filter
  for AM/ESSB transmit (officially).

  In any case, given the measured performance of the INRAD/Elecraft
  250 Hz filter (about 350 to 375 Hz), I can certainly see the
  utility of something like:

  FL1   13 kHz (FM/AM/ESSB)
  FL2   2.7 or 2.8 kHz (SSB and casual CW/DATA tuning)
  FL3   1.8 or 1.5 KHz (Narrow SSB and wide data modes)
  FL4   700 Hz (casual/normal CW/DATA)
  FL5   350 Hz (Narrow CW/RTTY in heavy QRM)

  While the 350 Hz filter would lack the absolute selectivity of
  the Elecraft 200 Hz 5-pole filter, it would be nearly optimum
  for 45.45 baud RTTY and still provide a useful narrow CW option.

  73,

  ... Joe, W4TV

  On 9/21/2010 6:07 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
   700 Hz is a useful CW/DATA filter bandwidth, certainly. I'm not
   surprised that some K3 owners are interested in this.
  
   Personally, I prefer much narrow CW/DATA bandwidths, and I use all
   modes. The lineup I use (and generally recommend) is:
  
   FL1   13 kHz (FM)
   FL2   6 kHz (AM/ESSB)
   FL3   2.7 or 2.8 kHz (SSB and casual CW/DATA tuning)
   FL4   400 or 500 Hz (normal CW/DATA)
   FL5   200 Hz (CW/DATA in heavy QRM)
  
   73,
   Wayne
   N6KR
  
  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 :: firmware update failure

2010-09-19 Thread Gary Gregory
Bill,

You nailed that one.

Manufacturers have no interest in giving the user a choice other than they
expect us to load their software in the belief that when the next new model
comes out we will all rush down and buy it.

I do the same procedure as you have suggested and could not agree more.

73's
Gary

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 Chen,

 When it comes to cameras... all bets are off, as personally, I think they
 are bloat-ware and very processor overload.  I have seen Canon, Kodak, Sony
 and Nikon programs which are so user friendly to make a great working PC
 turned into a sluggish piece of junk.  I usually stop the startup processes
 of all of them and show my customers how to download from their cameras and
 sort their own so they don't lose the libraries and other dedicated to
 manufacturer systems which can be a huge hassle.

 Bill
 K9YEQ


 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kok Chen
 Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 12:34 PM
 To: Elecraft Reflector
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 :: firmware update failure

 On Sep 19, 2010, at 9/199:47 AM, Bill K9YEQ wrote:

   I find the process simple and it works well for upgrading any of the
  K3 devices. The procedures for  firmware updating both P3 and K3
  aren't fool proof.

 While better but still not 100% foolproof, the Canon cameras that I have
 can
 be updated by first copying the firmware file into the same memory card
 that
 holds the photos, and then commanding the camera through a menu to update
 firmware. It does take away most of the scare factor when updating the
 firmware.

 That being said, by now there are probably amateur rigs that update
 firmware
 through the ubiquitous USB memory stick.

 A memory stick could be a good way to save menus and configs of a rig, too.
 But you would need to add the cost of a USB connector and perhaps an
 additional $5 AVR microprocessor.  That could translate to a burdened $20
 on
 the end user, but it can save on support phone calls and companies can
 perhaps eat some of the margin :-).

 73
 Chen, W7AY

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 beginners config setting?

2010-09-18 Thread Gary Gregory
Due to varying types of operating requirements it would be extremely
difficult to come up with a One Operating Setup that would be any better
than the supplied Default settings.

I have tried many of the suggestions offered on this list from time to time
and I would be very surprised if my now current settings were not a mixture
of some of these suggestions.

Without any intention to sounding condescending I firmly believe that new
owners of any of the current crop of amateur radios should really follow the
manufacturers suggestion to read the manual prior to operating. Certainly we
get excited and need a quick fix by firing the rig straight out of the
box. But still there is no way to replace fiddling with the new toy. The
TX side is fairly straight forward and easy to enough to get right followed
by small adjustments to get it just right for the individual.

The RX is certainly more complex along with connecting and setting up
auxiliary equipment and operating priorities and again there is no
substitute for perusing the manual as you work through the setup.

Some quick start guides may be advantageous to those who wish to speed up
the learning curve but time spent in front of the rig listening on the bands
is always going to get you to the point where you will find your own unique
settings that work for you.

I have found that starting with your most common mode of operation that you
are most comfortable with will get you on the air quickly with little or no
difficulty. Then simply work through other modes at a leisurely pace.

Just my nickel's worth, keep the change..:-)

73's

Gary

On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Hank Garretson w...@arrl.net wrote:

 On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 2:18 PM, ussv dharma ussvdha...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Perhaps, since the K3 IS so versitle, there should be a setting for
  beginners.  Using this setting sets everything to a reasonable setting
 for
  us that dont understand all the K3 settings.  I dont mean a reset, but
 one
  for beginners.
 

 The Elecraft K3 default settings!?!?


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 77, Issue 27

2010-09-18 Thread Gary Gregory
Before we ask for Fn keys to be assignable to the K3 we may want to know
just what added FW and HW are proposed for the P3?

The future options may require or be better suitable with available Fn keys
on the P3?

Just thinkin out loud..:-)

Gary

On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 9:44 AM, 4CX250B 4cx2...@muohio.edu wrote:

 Hi All,
 I assembled and installed P3 s/n 497 this week, and it all works perfectly.
 Here are a couple of suggestions for firmware upgrades that I think would
 make the P3 more functional when it's used with a K3 (in addition, of
 course, to wider span range).  I understand that some of these suggestions
 may not have broad enough appeal to warrant serious consideration, and I'm
 sure some have been previously mentioned.

 1. The Center Frequency adjust isn't well described in the manual.
 Currently, it's really just a fixed offset from the K3 VFO A frequency, and
 moves as the K3 is tuned. To me, once selected, the center frequency should
 stay put.  This seems so obvious to me that I wonder if the current
 implementation is actually just a firmware bug?

 2. The Tap=QSY feature is nice, but it would be more convenient if the
 the K3 actually tuned in the peak being clicked on. Thus, if the K3 was on
 USB, it would QSY to the appropriate place on the peak signal's bandpass --
 kind of an autotune, or AFC mode, analogous to that the K3 now uses for
 autotuning CW signals.

 3. A Peak Search feature, which tuned the K3 to the biggest peak on the
 P3 display, would be useful on the 10m and 6m bands, where there is very
 often very little activity.  A refinement on this concept would be a Peak
 Search Right and Peak Search Left mode. These are common features on
 spectrum analyzers.

 4. Band Limit Settings on the P3, like those implemented on the IC-7700 and
 IC-7800.  Here, one would specify upper and lower band frequencies (e.g.,
 L=7000 kHz and U = 7300 kHz), so that whenever the K3 was tuned to a ham
 band, the P3 would show the selected fixed frequency range as a menu option.

 5. Encoder default setting: It would be helpful if a menu choice could set
 the encoder so that it defaulted to Span or Level, when no other function
 had selected it.

 6. Assign unused FN1 - FN8 to K3 functions.  I suspect most P3 users will
 not assign all eight FN buttons to P3 menu functions. Since the P3 and K3
 talk to each other via the RS232C port, how about using spare FN buttons
 to control K3 functions? In my case, I'd like to have dedicated mode buttons
 for SSB, CW, AM, etc., or possibly for band changes.

 7. Color choices on the LCD. Currently, the P3 uses only white, blue and
 yellow.  Assuming the display is actually capable of other colors, it would
 be nice to give operators a choice of other color combinations. (The current
 color choices are pretty, but a bit jarring next to the orange display on
 the K3!)

 8. A brief explanation of spectrum analyzer terminology (since, the P3 is
 really just a spectrum analyzer) would be a nice appendix to the manual.
  For example, I suspect many users aren't familiar with the meaning of
 resolution bandwidth, why the sweep rate changes with span width, etc.
  I'm sure a short tutorial would be appreciated by many owners.

 Thanks and 73,
 Jim Garland W8ZR
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Re: [Elecraft] P3: QSY knob mod

2010-09-18 Thread Gary Gregory
Hmmm, mind if I steal your idea?...:-)

Gary

On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Bob Cunnings bob.cunni...@gmail.comwrote:

 I use the P3 with a fairly wide span to spot and pounce on signals in
 the CW bands. The P3 is near the edge of the table and I find myself
 most comfortable when placing the heel of my hand on the table edge
 and twirling the QSY knob with the index and middle fingers to move
 the cursor around the band. This was hard to do with the stock knob,
 it seemed a bit small and I needed a little more friction also. While
 rummaging around in a drawer I found a couple of those dipped vinyl
 protective caps used made to fit SO-239 connectors was inspired. One
 of these fits snugly over the P3 QSY knob. It fattens the knob
 considerably and offers a lot more friction. I can twirl away
 effortlessly now, and tapping is easy too. Here's a photo link:

 http://www.whitemesa.com/nw8l/images/p3-knob.jpg

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-09-10 Thread Gary Gregory
So buy an Alpha, or a Commander. or a
Some of us don't have a kind regulator that will allow us more than 400W
PEP...yep, some of us do comply...we are in the minority no doubt, but
nevertheless we comply and the KPA-500 fits the bill nicely.

:-)

Gary

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Right, 500W is hardly worthwhile. Make it at least 2KW PEP.  Got to make up
 for the tuner and coax losses and to live on RTTY.

 --- On Thu, 9/9/10, Greg n...@cableone.net wrote:

  Free market feedback...bring back the
  1500 watt amp!  73 de Greg-N4CC





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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft - Ethic, Esthetic and Experience

2010-09-10 Thread Gary Gregory
Ian,

Good comment...:-)

Gary

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 5:55 AM, Ian White GM3SEK gm3...@ifwtech.co.ukwrote:

 Edward Dickinson, III wrote:
 I'd like to offer that my favored types of operation do not fit what
 are seemingly the foci of many of the participants that seem to
 constitute the Elecraft fan base.  I am not a DXer, Contester, QRPer,
 CW or Keyboard Operator.  In short, I am a nearly 100% SSB HF, Rag-Chew
 operator.  December of this year will mark my 30th year as an amateur
 radio operator, though my exposure to the hobby began about 1960. The
 efforts of Elecraft are not wasted on me.
 

 Neither are they wasted on the DXers, Contesters, QRPers, CW or Keyboard
 Operators!

 The problem for Elecraft (and for this list) is that 4000+ owners have
 5000+ different answers to the question:

 Which K3 is Yours?



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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-09-09 Thread Gary Gregory
Phil,

Many thanks for the good chuckle mate...unreal

You remember where you put that penny jar now don't you?..or has age clouded
the view?

Seeya

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On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Phil Townsend phi...@mac.com wrote:

 So I got me a ten watt k3... I like it... It is very good. It works. And
 I'm thinking of a KPA500.
 But to run the KPA500 I gotta get the 100 watt add-on first. Hu Is
 that a deal breaker? Might be. If I don't get the hundred water then I can't
 get fully output.!.?-¥xxx
 So the true cost of the kPA500 is way more... For me with just ten watts. I
 really only want ten watts. But when I feel the need, the need for speed
 (yeah I had to say it) I would like to hit the big lever marked kill and
 blast them out of their socks.

 Can't hear me OM??
 He switches the amp to kill
 How's ur copy now om?

 The screenplay is in my head...
 Among other things.

 I would like to be able to upgrade with out the interim 100 watter.
 Yeah, I know, i won't work but I can ask those guys who sweat solder and
 cash flow and you never know they just might be able to do it.
 To me the K2 was a total mind melt...and the K3 is beyond my wildest
 dreams. Quite an upgrade from the old Heathkits I used to build... No
 disrespect meant the hotwaters and Indians that may be still lurking.

 Phil
 Santa Fe


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 On Sep 9, 2010, at 9:30 PM, Greg n...@cableone.net wrote:

  Free market feedback...bring back the 1500 watt amp!  73 de Greg-N4CC
 
  -Original Message-
  From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
  [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Person
  Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 8:58 PM
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500
 
   It's never as simple as that.  I think announcing a product when its on
  its final approach is fine.  I think getting tons of feedback on what
 you're
  about to invest heavily in is good business.  Maybe the truth of the
 earlier
  amps was that there just wasn't enough positive response to them.  Maybe
  this time they used all the input from the previous attempt to refine the
  price point and feature set.  Maybe everytime someone here says the price
 is
  too high Eric makes another note. Or someone else says I'll order on the
  first day - is another note. This is free market research.  Easy access
 to
  the most likely buyers.  A big product mistake by a small company like
  Elecraft could sink them.  I think they took a LOT of notes on the road
 to
  completing the K3. Nobody can argue with the results. And when the
 KPA-500
  is released, it will be based on tons of feedback.
 
  Doug -- K0DXV
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 thread...waiting for the END OF THREAD announcement

2010-09-09 Thread Gary Gregory
::-)

Gary

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com wrote:

 He says, as he adds his opinion.

 --- On Thu, 9/9/10, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL doug...@gmail.com wrote:

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 Features and Pricing

2010-09-08 Thread Gary Gregory
Plus a power supply and in VK land we pay very dearly for 100amp switcher.

I would not see a lot of difference in an ALS-600 + Power supply and the
KPA-500 with it's onboard power supply  sitting alongside my K3...Grin

Gary

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Doug Person d...@northroutt.net wrote:

  I use an Ameritron ALS-600 along with the MFJ 600 watt autotuner.
 Together, this combination just breaks $1500.  It works superbly with
 the K3.  The KPA-500 is expected to be priced around $2200.  Worth every
 penny I'm sure and I'll be among the first wave to order it.  But, it
 doesn't stop the ALS-600 from being an excellent, and less expensive by
 far, alternative.

 Doug -- K0DXV

 On 9/8/2010 1:12 PM, K4SC wrote:
  After 45 years on the air, I'm finally getting an itch to bump my power
 over
  100 watts; 500 - 600 watts seems like a reasonable amount of 75 meter
 power
  for me.  I'm seriously looking at amplifiers and tuners, but hesitant to
  make a purchase decision before getting at least some warm fuzzies about
 the
  KPA-500 pricing and availability.
 
  Been looking at a lot of new and used tube based amplifiers and 1KW
 tuners;
  getting the sense that I could spend upwards of $1500 for anything
 decent.
  If the KPA-500 is going to sell for close to that figure, or less of
 course,
  I can probably keep my money stashed and wait a few more months.  It sure
  would look nice next to the K3  P3.
 
  If, however, the KPA-500 is going to cost much more than $1500, I will
  probably go the tube route.
 
  So, what I'm hoping to get from someone in the know is a ballpark
 figure
  on the KPA-500.  I assume the antenna tuner is built in, and not an
  additional cost.  If that isn't the case, then knowing the ATU cost would
  also be helpful.

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Re: [Elecraft] Yamaha CM500

2010-09-07 Thread Gary Gregory
Good advice from Wes..100%

Enjoy

Gary

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Plug it in the back, turn on the bias and enjoy.

 --- On Tue, 9/7/10, Elliott Lawrence wa6...@roadrunner.com wrote:
  Received the unit today from
  BH.  Packaging says it is an electret
  microphone! I thought it was supposed to be a dynamic
  element.  Also the mike is a 3 contact miniplug.
  Thought that it would be a 2 contact (tip and sleeve) since
  that's all that is needed!!
 
  Any comments?  Easy enough to return if it isn't as
  advertised!
 
  vy 73,
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Re: [Elecraft] Big box K3

2010-09-06 Thread Gary Gregory
Oh no, not again.

Didn't this thread end already?

Been big, gone small..job done!

Happy camper!...(:-)

Gary



On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Philippe Trottet trot...@unhcr.org wrote:

 K3 has been primarily designed for portable use/dx-speditions  field days
 and honestly I'm more focused and impressed from the results than the
 design. Everything is functional and easy to access even with my big fingers
 and for those who are lack of space (it's not my case) it would be an
 add-up.
 A Steve says, to propose a base version would be a complete technical
 re-design of the K3 and really on the financial side what would be the
 market for a tiny company to invest in such a project ? Need to be sure to
 sold many thousands of units, enroll more staff, even new engineering
 equipment, larger premises,  increasing exponentially the costs ... taxes
 etc...
 In that specific case, Wayne  Eric are listening to most of our realistic
 comments and advises and the evolution of the K3 took our concerns to
 consideration that is the Ham sprit at a level where no major company has
 gone before.
 Human being is never satisfied of one's lot but I think we have to be
 modest and self adapted to the Elecraft rigs as they offer the best they can
 do.
 If they propose a new rig in the future it would be another issue and all
 our fears would have been analysed and well think over.

 Bst 73's
 Philippe A65BI
 K3#3616
 *Elecraft, for Hams, by Hams...What else ?




  Steve Harvey n...@embarqmail.com 10-08-2010 22:18 
 I don't really have a horse in this race because I am personally very happy
 with my K3 (#693) and, knowing that Wayne's Engineering degree included
 emphasis on Engineering Ergonomics, I am satisfied that he has given us the
 best possible radio in the form factor that is most popular to most people
 who represent his target market.

 However, while there is nothing wrong with dreaming and asking for changes,
 I wonder how many of the Big Box k3 requesters have considered the
 magnitude
 of the effort required on Elecraft's part to deliver such a thing.

 First, the job would not be as trivial as simply re-packaging the insides
 in
 a bigger box.  It would involve the design and testing of a new RF board
 and
 front panel in order to remove controls and displays to a different front
 panel (which would also have to be designed and tested) and to remove ports
 to a different back panel. Internal cable routing, shielding, and
 structural
 support would have to be altered with consequent testing as well. Cramming
 the P3, KPA500, and a power supply inside would only complicate things
 further. Also, because functions would have to be removed from menus and
 associated with front panel hardware, the firmware would have to be
 rewritten, which would require two versions to be maintained in parallel
 and
 alpha/beta tested for each release to keep them in sync.  Elecraft is a
 small company, and most of the design and programming is done by only a
 couple of people whose jobs would grow enormously, and which would deprive
 other, more critical projects of their time and effort.

 Second, how much would the Big Box people be willing to pay for the
 upgrade,
 and how many could Elecraft expect to sell?  My guess is that in order to
 amortize the time and materials to develop such an upgrade given the
 considerations above, each unit could cost as much as the K3 itself
 (possibly more depending on expected sales volume), which could bring it
 into the price range of some of the big iron with which it favorably
 competes, both cost- and feature-wise.  I suspect that there would not be
 many takers at those prices.

 I'm sorry that some of the current owners of K3s seem to be disappointed in
 it.  Every engineering project is a trade-off, and I think that Wayne and
 Eric represent the Burt Rutans of the radio world.  Given that, I don't
 think that even Burt Rutan would consider adapting a VariEze (K2) or a
 Starship (K3) into an AirBus form factor, and I doubt that very many
 customers would buy one.


 73 de Steve, NN0B




 -Original Message-
 From: Nicholas Farrar [mailto:nfar...@bfpacs.com]
 Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 7:32 PM
 To: elecraft
 Subject: [Elecraft] Big box K3

 *
 So stop making noise just to be heard. What Im asking for would affect you
 anti-changer zero. And we all got it a few post back Phil... you dont like
 change fine. Then if you dont have any thing constructive to add, don't
 play. Some of us do want something new. Something more. The K3 is GREAT!
 But
 even the Queen of England could stand to refine herself a bit more. The
 beauty of what Im asking for in not the end of the K3. Its just
 enhancement.
 Why do some people fly off the handle of something so small. Take your toys
 and go home. Dont spoil our party on the idea of a larger K3(K3A).




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Re: [Elecraft] OT: following Amazon's lead regarding FOREX fees on international orders by cc

2010-08-30 Thread Gary Gregory
Yes Please.

Gary

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Chris Wagner kf6...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Guys

 a fair share of K3s and other kits are sold overseas. The buyers' credit
 cards are denominated in some other currency like GBP, AUD or EUR.
 Henceforth, their bank often charges up to 2% for the currency conversion.
 On a $ 2,500 order that's $ 50!

 If Elecraft could get their cc processing company or bank to quote sale
 prices in the leading currencies by customers' transaction volume, folks
 would save thousands. Amazon is doing it... When their computer noticed me
 entering a UK cc, they offered to pay in GBP.

 Vy 73 de Chris (I spent over $ 250 on such FOREX charges over the years)
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Wiki Site

2010-08-26 Thread Gary Gregory
Hmmm...seems like I am not the only one who didn't know it even existed so I
guess you can put me in with the group who didn't support the wiki.

Then again I don't use any Wiki

But I can take that without bad feelings.

Gary

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Thom LaCosta k3...@zerobeat.net wrote:

 Isn't it amazing,after all our hard work that was ignored and
 unthanked...now I'm supposed to give it to someone else?

 The time for folks to participate was when we had it up and running.

 No thanks guys.I've had my fill of the Mouth full of gimmee and
 a hand full of take that's been displayed by both
 Elecraft and the K3 community.

 The wiki and the forum for Elecraft users was a classic example of
 No good deed goes unpunished.

 73
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Re: [Elecraft] New Heil Elite iC pro set with HC-6

2010-08-26 Thread Gary Gregory
Joe,

Good advice. I concur

I have never been happy with any of the 3 Heil Mic's I have had. Too much
money for so little quality..just my 2cents..keep the change!...(:-))

Gary

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:


   Does anyone use the newer Heil Pro iC Elite headset with the HC-6
   element? Elecraft does not have that model available. I imagine that
   you will have to set the bias voltage for the mic.

 The Heil HC elements are dynamic ... no bias!

Can you use this with the K3 mic/earphone adapter?

 It's a mic PTT adapter (Heil AD1-K).

   How well does the Elecraft Heil Pro iC headset work with the K3? Do I
   need to spend more money on the HC-6 version?

 I'd strongly recommend the Yamaha CM-500 instead of any Heil headset.
 The CM-500 is every bit the equal of the Heil ProSet iC for less than
 1/3 the price (ca., $45 at BH Photovideo).  The CM-500 mic behaves
 just the same as the iC element ... roll off the bottom three bands
 and add some modest boost at 1600/2400/3200 Hz and you will have super
 audio with plenty of punch.

 73,

... Joe, W4TV


 On 8/26/2010 7:44 PM, Linda and Bob wrote:
  Does anyone use the newer Heil Pro iC Elite headset with the HC-6
  element? Elecraft does not have that model available. I imagine that
  you will have to set the bias voltage for the mic. Can you use this
  with the K3 mic/earphone adapter? Is that a separate option from
  Elecraft?
 
  How well does the Elecraft Heil Pro iC headset work with the K3? Do I
  need to spend more money on the HC-6 version? Thanks.
 
  Bob Wilderman, K3SRO dlrwi...@comcast.net
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Wiki Site

2010-08-24 Thread Gary Gregory
That would be my guess.
73's
Gary

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:14 AM, David Christ radio...@mchsi.com wrote:

 I wonder if this list with all the helpful people and the
 participation from Elecraft affected the interest in the wiki.  The
 Drake people don't have that.

 David

 At 7:22 PM -0400 8/24/10, Thom LaCosta wrote:
 snip
 
 Just as an aside, I maintain a web site, forum and mailing list for
 R.L. Drake users.the difference in participation,
 help and gratitude is like day and night.
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Re: [Elecraft] Externmal ATU

2010-08-24 Thread Gary Gregory
Or wait for the Elecraft auto-tuner when released in the new year.

Till then use manual mode.

Just my 2cents worth...keep the change...(:-))

Gary

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

  Phil,

 I am not certain if you or someone else originally asked the question -
 but --
 The K3 can provide a lower power RF source for tuning.
 As others have mentioned - first set the Tune power in the menu.
 Then use TUNE (not ATU TUNE)  and the K3 will transmit at the power you
 set in the menu.

 How you command the tuner to initiate its tune is quite a different
 matter.  Perhaps RF sensing is appropriate - or one would put the K3
 into TUNE and then operate the TUNE button for the tuner.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 8/24/2010 8:56 PM, Phil  Debbie Salas wrote:
  The K3 should certainly be able to handle a relay-switched tuner on
  short-term tuning without a problem ... it certainly does with the
  KAT-3.
 
  I believe that the K3 tunes with low power (5 watts?) when using the
 KAT3.
  The thought of running the K3 at full output into momentary infinite SWR
  conditions as autotuner relays switch makes me somewhat uncomfortable.
 
  Phil - AD5X
 
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[Elecraft] P3 additions

2010-08-10 Thread Gary Gregory
Hi All,

I would really like to see the P3 display the config and main menu with the
ability to select and make changes (as did the FTdx9000D) and a waveform
audio display on Tx and Rx.

Both of course as optional displays so as to not take away from the current
versatility of the P3.

These features, when announced officially as future enhancements, would have
me reaching for the plastic yet again.

73's
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Re: [Elecraft] Button HOLD time

2010-08-10 Thread Gary Gregory
Ian,

I like your idea, would work for me and I would certainly change my default
setting as they are now.

73's
Gary

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Ian White GM3SEK gm3...@ifwtech.co.ukwrote:

 Don Wilhelm wrote:

 I can't help with eliminating the ATT hold button.

 But Elecraft could. How about this?

 CONFIG:HOLDDLY. Increases the HOLD time required to activate secondary
 functions of push buttons and knobs. Minimum (and default) is 0.5
 seconds. Further option: for extra-long HOLD times on the BAND and MODE
 rocker buttons, tap [1] to multiply the selected HOLD time by 1.5; tap
 [2] to multiply by 2; tap [0] to reset BAND and MODE buttons to the same
 HOLD time as all others (default). For further protection against
 accidental activation of HOLD functions, see CONFIG:SW TONE and
 CONFIG:PWR SET (tap [1] to lock).


 Any K3 owner who hosts a multi-op station will understand why.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - OK - who has P3 #83? Got #54

2010-08-10 Thread Gary Gregory
Good Grief!Grin

Comedy relief on this reflector can sometimes exceed brilliance.

Now to try and heal my sore ribs from laughing.

73's
Gary

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 Shame on Ken for starting all this and shame on me for yielding to peer
 pressure.  Got #54, want #83 - - - K3/100 #83 is lonely for it's sibling!

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3

2010-08-10 Thread Gary Gregory
I just tried the download and got the same error message here also.

Not seen this before.

Gary

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 Are you using Google chrome? I have had similar problems when using Chrome,
 but no problem with Explorer.  There is also an option that can be set in
 Adobe Reader to open in a new window rather than in the browser, that seems
 to work if one wants to use Chrome.

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Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Fwd: P3 Manual Rev A3 corrupted - more

2010-08-10 Thread Gary Gregory
Yhanks Brian, all worked FB now.

Gary

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Brian br...@elecraft.com wrote:

 Thanks for the feedback, folks!

 The P3 Owner's Manual Rev A3 link has been fixed and will now download
 correctly.

 73,
 Brian, W6FVI
 P3 Production Manager
 Elecraft,Inc.


  Original Message 
 Subject:Re: [Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3
 Date:   Tue, 10 Aug 2010 21:44:19 +0100
 From:   David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net



 I can't download on a Mac either - tells me the file may be corrupted.
 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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 I don't mind that you think slowly but I do mind that you are publishing
 faster than you think.
 -Wolfgang Pauli, physicist, Nobel laureate (1900-1958)

 On 10 Aug 2010, at 21:30, Mike WA8BXN wrote:

   Looks like its some other problem from what I described I have seen with
 PDF
   files and Chrome. I tried to download with Chrome and Explorer and got
 the
   same error. The Elecraft web site says the file is 2.5 MB in size, but
 the
   during the download the size was around 655 KB, so I suspect now there
 is a
   problem with the file on the server.
 
   73 - Mike WA8BXN
 
 
 
 
 
   ---Original Message---
 
   From: Gary Gregory
   Date: 8/10/2010 4:05:53 PM
   To: Mike WA8BXN
   Cc:elecraft@mailman.qth.net cc%3aelecr...@mailman.qth.net; Don
 Cunningham
   Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3
 
   I just tried the download and got the same error message here also.
 
   Not seen this before.
 
   Gary
 
 
   On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:02 AM, Mike WA8BXNhubb...@hotmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Are you using Google chrome? I have had similar problems when using
 Chrome,
   But no problem with Explorer. There is also an option that can be set in
   Adobe Reader to open in a new window rather than in the browser, that
 seems
   To work if one wants to use Chrome.
 
   73 - Mike WA8BXN
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Fwd: P3 Manual Rev A3 corrupted - more

2010-08-10 Thread Gary Gregory
Good Grief...me thinks the correct spelling is ThanksArgh!!

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yhanks Brian, all worked FB now.

 Gary


 On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Brian br...@elecraft.com wrote:

 Thanks for the feedback, folks!

 The P3 Owner's Manual Rev A3 link has been fixed and will now download
 correctly.

 73,
 Brian, W6FVI
 P3 Production Manager
 Elecraft,Inc.


  Original Message 
 Subject:Re: [Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3
 Date:   Tue, 10 Aug 2010 21:44:19 +0100
 From:   David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net



 I can't download on a Mac either - tells me the file may be corrupted.
 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
 --
 I don't mind that you think slowly but I do mind that you are publishing
 faster than you think.
 -Wolfgang Pauli, physicist, Nobel laureate (1900-1958)

 On 10 Aug 2010, at 21:30, Mike WA8BXN wrote:

   Looks like its some other problem from what I described I have seen
 with PDF
   files and Chrome. I tried to download with Chrome and Explorer and got
 the
   same error. The Elecraft web site says the file is 2.5 MB in size, but
 the
   during the download the size was around 655 KB, so I suspect now there
 is a
   problem with the file on the server.
 
   73 - Mike WA8BXN
 
 
 
 
 
   ---Original Message---
 
   From: Gary Gregory
   Date: 8/10/2010 4:05:53 PM
   To: Mike WA8BXN
   Cc:elecraft@mailman.qth.net cc%3aelecr...@mailman.qth.net; Don
 Cunningham
   Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3
 
   I just tried the download and got the same error message here also.
 
   Not seen this before.
 
   Gary
 
 
   On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:02 AM, Mike WA8BXNhubb...@hotmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Are you using Google chrome? I have had similar problems when using
 Chrome,
   But no problem with Explorer. There is also an option that can be set
 in
   Adobe Reader to open in a new window rather than in the browser, that
 seems
   To work if one wants to use Chrome.
 
   73 - Mike WA8BXN
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Amplifier

2010-08-10 Thread Gary Gregory
KPA-500..new Elecraft Slogan...I JUST WANT ONE!

Oh well, back in my cave.

Gary

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Tony Fegan VE3QF jafe...@rogers.comwrote:

 If we want to split hairs, the 1K-FA is actually advertised as having a
 gain of 16dB!! So they are not hiding anything.

 73
Tony Fegan VE3QF

 Brett Howard wrote:
  Why be sorry I'm only wondering... I'd thought that over 15dB of gain
  was against the rules.  10W is 40dBm thus +15dBm is 55dBm or a little
  over 300Watts.
 
 
  ~Brett (N7MG)
 
  On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 5:58 PM, W4GRJ w4...@satterfield.org wrote:
  The Expert 1K-FA is FCC Certified.maybe my meter is not accurate
 
 
  Jack
  W4GRJ
 
 
  On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:37 PM, W4GRJ w4...@satterfield.org wrote:
  Depends on the Amplifier, I have a SPE Expert 1K-FA.10watts drive =
  500
  watts out
 
  Jack
  W4GRJ
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 endless menus

2010-08-10 Thread Gary Gregory
For all the money it cost's...check out the FTdx9000 menue display...IF your
eyesight can see them, they are numbered also...good idea, bad engineering,
and don't even start about the cost of the radioGrin

The K3 sure does have a lot of great features and for me they are all easy
to follow and read etc.

73's
Gary

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Rick Tavan N6XI rta...@gmail.com wrote:

 Remember the menus in the FT-1000MP? All numeric and very obscure. The K3
 is
 a sweet dream in comparison.

 /Rick N6XI

 On 8/10/10, eric manning eric.mann...@engr.uvic.ca wrote:
 
  Don Wilhelm said:
 
  Brett,
 
  I think the K3 gets an undeserved bad rap for the menus.  The main
  menu has only 13 items in it, and those are the items most likely to be
  changed during operation.
 
  ___
  I agree. I was intially overwhelmed by the CONFIG menus. However, after I
  got my K3
  tailored just the way I wanted it - took about a month elapsed time - I
  only change a parameter
  very occasionally, except for two which I assigned to the PF buttons.
 [QSK
  + and SPKRS ON ]
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Big Box K-3

2010-08-10 Thread Gary Gregory
Lu,

You know you really should not smile so much at 2AM, it can be heartbreaking
for some. (Not to even mention a back or two?)

Grin

Gary

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Lu Romero lrom...@ij.net wrote:

 Reading this duscussion brings to mind possible magazine
 headlines:

 QST:  Elecraft builds a Big Front Panel K3!

 Car and Driver:  We drive the new Ferrari Motorhome!

 Flying:  Meet the new Cessna Jumbo Jet!

 MacUser:  First look: The Apple Refrigerator Freezer!

 My 57 year old bi-focal assisted eyes and arthritis riddled
 fingers can work the existing panel just fine, thank you
 very much...

 And after this weekend's NAQP, where I watched a partner
 schelpp his Yaesu 1000MP, draging it into the shack and
 lifting it up to the table, then puting it back into a car
 at 2am, that is, after watching the other guys move the ICOM
 7700 that was on the table originally before the contest and
 then putting it back on that table at 2am,  Im S happy
 to own a K3!

 -lu-w4lt-
 K3 S# 3192


 Message: 19
 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:09:06 -
 From: GD0TEP gd0...@manx.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Big Box K-3
 To: 'elecraft' elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii

 snip  because they want the band scope built in or some
 thing else.

 So, I've said more than my peace. Elecraft if you ever
 build a larger case
 count me In.

 Yes, I'd have one.. I miss the scope on the front of my
 756pro2. Well, I
 don't actually as it sits next to the K3. :-) but I sure
 would love a larger
 K3.


 73,
 Andy
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Re: [Elecraft] Big box K3

2010-08-09 Thread Gary Gregory
Well said...I never once wanted to move my FTdx9000D, except out the door
when I found a buyer.

The heat generated by these big box radios, the weight, the physical size
etc, all these make the radio impractical for portable use.

The large screen display provided by these high end radios are not a patch
on the P3 performance and practicality and if you were to measure the total
width of a K3, P3 and a KPA-500 and maybe even a desktop tuner and you soon
realise that desktop space is going to be at a premium and you still need
more space for  Laptop for logging?

I believe Elecraft have designed the K3 in as small a footprint as practical
and with good reason, I think they have expressed their intention to not
release a K4 big box radio, again, with good reason.

Just one operators opinion.

73's
Gary

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:19 AM, r miles greenacres...@charter.net wrote:

 Being a six footer  able a palm a basketball in my youth I don't find the
 K3 too crowded. I don't have small hands to say the least. I seem to be able
 to use the radio just fine. At least in the 18 months I've owned one.
 Our  radio club is small. At Field Day we've used two K3s  a K2. No
 complaints  from the various operators. No big box 50+ lb. radios brought
 out tho. Too heavy to lug around I guess.
 When I contest I log with a laptop. Being an awful typer I watch what I
 type. For me a P3  I' d move for my best view would be better than having to
 stare  at the transceiver straight on.
 If you ever wanted to  try DXing from a DX location bet you can't drag a 60
 lb. radio as a carry on. K3, switcher PS  acc. under 20 lb.s
 Being a lefty  only partly ambidexterous my only K3 complaint is the
 message pad is set for rightys.
 Oh well just a small problem.
 In my 51 years of hamming I've sat in front of just about everything made.
 I'm keeping my K3...
 K9IL

 PS: Going to be ruff dragging that little KPA 500 around instead of a big
 box 80 lb. amplifier.

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Re: [Elecraft] Big Box K-3

2010-08-09 Thread Gary Gregory
Hopefully soon.
Gary

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Jim Cox jcox...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Amen, will this thread never end!
 Jim K4JAF


 - Original Message -
 From: David Gilbert xda...@cis-broadband.com
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 7:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Big Box K-3


 
  I don't understand why this keeps coming up.  Search the archives under
  K4 and you'll discover that the topic has been flogged to death
  several times, and after each extended thread Elecraft announced that
  they have zero intention ... none, nada, zilch ... of spending time and
  effort on a big box K3.
 
  73,
  Dave   AB7E
 
 
 
  On 8/9/2010 4:28 PM, r...@aol.com wrote:
  Hi Elecrafters,
 
  I think it's great to dream... that's what gave us the  magnificant K-3!
 
  I'd love to have my small K-3 plus purchase a Big Box K-3.
 
  Some of my Big Box K-3's dream features would include:
 
  -Larger box with more spacing between controls.  (keep the same
  location
  for the controls just space them out)
  -Band switch for each band.
  -Mode switch for each mode.
  -Bigger LED display for: SWR, Power Output, ALC, Proxessor.
  -Built-In Power Supply.
  -Both 10dB and 20dB Attenuators.
  -200 watts transmitter output.
 
  Thank You Elecraft!
 
  73,
  Dick- K9OM
 
 
  Hi John and others,
 
  I myself am very pleased in  general with the operation and layout of
  the K3. It has stood 3 years of  discussion and criticism and in general
  has passed with flying  colours.
 
  That said, there is always room for add-on  improvement. I don't think
  anyone is suggesting a change in the present  layout of the K3. If you
  are 100% happy with what you have there is no need  for further
  discussion.
 
  The main improvement for some of us  is to the ergonomics of the front
  panel. The suggestion is for a larger  front panel either as an option
 to
  replace the present panel or for a  stand-alone panel/case that could
  even be used for remote control. Maybe we  could get to use that RJ45
  socket which has kept us intrigued for so long.  Why do radios have a
  vertical front panel? A panel set at 45 degrees would  be much easier to
  see and operate.
 
  In recent years (I'm  79) my various body senses have started to
  deteriorate (I don't think I am  alone!). My sight is not good. My sense
  of touch and manual dexterity has  also deteriorated. Yes I manage to
  type but with the ring finger of each  hand. It is difficult to change
  the width control on the K3 without moving  the VFO. I cured this by
  fitting extra large and long knobs on the width and  shift controls. Not
  pretty but it works. My only gripe with regard to the  buttons is the
  control of VOX (aka the sneeze/cough button). The VOX always  seems to
  take so long to disable and if the sneeze comes too soon you end up
  changing bands. I don't like foot switches which is another  option.
 
  So, there is lots to dream about. Unfortunately it  would be very
  difficult for an individual to design and build his own  version of
 front
  panel. Any takers?
 
  73
  Tony Fegan  VE3QF
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Re: [Elecraft] Big Box K-3

2010-08-09 Thread Gary Gregory
Brett,

I think somewhere in the archives there is a comment from Elecraft regarding
the PF buttons on the P3 being able to operate some features/menus on the
K3?.

This will of course be a future FW version.

Modular is a much better way to go and Elecraft have done a great job.

I would NOT go backwards to a 66Lb monstrosity that is so deep I had to buy
a new desktop to sit it on otherwise I had no room for the base microphone.
Tell me again how I miss that radio...NOT

The K3 is a great size for me, and many others. I can accept that there is a
small percentage of K3 owners that would like a larger faceplate, and then
they want to add buttons and knobs and their opinions should be respected.
Those of us who prefer the status quo should also be respected.

A K3 with an internal 500W amplifier, power supply and a P3 would be rather
large and heavy. The footprint and weight would render it pretty darn
restrictive to ship out on a Dxpedition where weight and volume are more
often than not of critical importance, let alone the cost involved in
shipping etc.

But we still get a lot of creative ideas on the reflector and that's a good
thing eh?

Gary

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Brett Howard br...@livecomputers.comwrote:

 The P3 has a keyboard port on it and will allow you to do that.
 Personally I like things more modular so that if/when I need to take
 things I only have to take the pieces I need.  I'm ok with cables an
 really like the additional buttons the P3 brings.  I'm certain that at
 some point one will be able to associate macros with buttons on the P3
 and I also feel like the P3 could be integrated to also make the menus
 of the K3 more user friendly.

 ~Brett (N7MG)

 On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Lou Kolb louk...@gmail.com wrote:
  I certainly agree on the keyboard port.  I'm currently using a k1el k40
  external keyer with a keyboard because I'm a better typist than iambist
 to
  coin a term.  It works fine but I'd love to just be able to plug the
  keyboard right into the rig and use that fine internal keyer.  Lou   --
  WA3MIX
  - Original Message -
  From: Nicholas Farrar nfar...@bfpacs.com
  To: elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 8:45 PM
  Subject: [Elecraft] Big Box K-3
 
 
  Im not asking for a K4. Im looking for a K3A upgrade. A larger case I
 can
  put the guts of my K3 in with a larger face(bigger screen and more
  buttons).
  This is not a completely new radio but a OPTIONAL upgrade to the K3 for
  those that want it. I understand a lot of people are happy with the size
  of
  their K3. Great they wouldn't want the K3A upgrade. I how ever would. I
  think a P3 built into the K3A face would be GREAT! Maybe the option to
  house
  either power supply OR amp! With the exception of the case and faceplate
  buttons and screen and power supply these are off the shelf parts. P3 is
  already in production and the KPA500 is rumored to drop this winter. I
  would
  also like a keyboard port. I want to be able to type PSK31 and RTTY with
  out
  an external PC. Imagine that! 500w RTTY in one box! Yes it would be
 heavy
  and some people wouldn't like it. Others would. Again Im not asking for
 a
  whole new radio. All that i'm asking for requires little development by
  elecraft, more repackaging. In the end would result in a top shelf
 KILLER.
 
  In closing the Elecraft K3 is GREAT! I am the VERY proud owner of K3
  #4455(great number!). the K3 has exceeded almost every expectation I had
  for
  a kit radio. That doesn't mean it couldn't be even better. I think yes.
 I
  personally would like a larger desktop K3(a). I would like the be able
  to
  perform this fictonal upgrade on the K3 components I have now. It you
 dont
  want or need these upgrades... Don't order or install them. This is a
  challenge to Eric and Wayne.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Will it be able to monitor K3 output

2010-08-05 Thread Gary Gregory
I am waiting for this feature to be announced before I order a P3. I don't
mind the wait but until it is announced that it will be made available then
I feel I have limited application for a P3 given my type of operation.

From what I am reading though the P3 certainly looks like a valued
accessory.

Gary

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:


 The rear panel would certainly indicate that possibility if
 the hole marked sensor is any indication.

 73,

... Joe, W4TV


 On 8/5/2010 3:54 PM, David Wilburn wrote:
  Will the P3 (at some point) be able to monitor / display the output of
  the K3 (or any other radio)?  Such as a band scope to check modulation
  levels or transmit frequency.
 
  Dave Wilburn
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Re: [Elecraft] LPPan vs. P3

2010-08-05 Thread Gary Gregory
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 8:21 AM, David Cutter d.cut...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 I cannot reference this, but I understand there is a difference in
 sensitivity of the two systems, ie minimum discernable signal, so that
 should be on your list; also dynamic range or do I mean third order
 intercept?

 Don't forget there are several panadaptors out there like Perseus and they
 all have a price/performance ratio.

 David
 G3UNA


Hi Folks,


 We have seen all these posts before when the P3 was first announced. Of
 great interest to a lot of us monitoring the reflector is real world
 comments from the new recipients of the P3 and any comparisons they may
 offer on the P3 vs after-market Pan Adapters.


I personally have not ventured into the pan-adapter field as I don't want to
use a PC for this purpose. I use my notebook for computer logging only when
operating casual and in contests. I think I can see the advantages of using
a pan-adapter but I would also want to monitor my TX/Tx audio in a waveform
such as the SM-220, again, without the need to use a PC based system.

The suggestion has been made to use the P3 with a plug-in keyboard to run
PSK31 and RTTY, again, this interests me greatly and I see the benefits of
such a system if and when it should become available.

I read also where the P3 will have an extended bandwidth at a later date and
in VK many 6M operators monitor 49.750 (Chinese TV) and 50.110 the
international Dx calling frequency and so an increase in bandwidth would be
a major carrot for those operators to aquire a P3.

Add all the above to the advantages of running field operations (a common
type of operation in VK) without a PC (some of us do paper logs for just Dx
operations) and the P3 will suit a lot of potential customers.

I base my assumption on the comments I have received from several K3 owners
in VK4 that have expressed their interest in the P3 but have decided to wait
awhile to see just what announcements Elecraft will make on any P3
improvements or added features.

I also understand that Elecraft's focus at the moment will be on getting the
current version of the P3 out in the field where they expect to hear back
from the owners on any shortcomings they feel the P3 has. It is these
individual customers that give feedback direct to Elecraft so that any
improvements or added features can be placed on a list to be worked
through as time permits.

Originally I felt a P3 was not for me, however I must admit that in the last
few days I have decided that I will most likely buy one when the picture is
a little bit clearer on the P3's future expansion.

Just my 2 cents worthkeep the change

Gary
VK4FD


 - Original Message -
 From: k...@aol.com
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 8:53 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] LPPan vs. P3


 I am using the LPPan and am very happy with the  large screen, the
  interface, etc.  I can also see the P3 being very  intriguing.  Perhaps
  they are two
  versions of the same thing, maybe they  are meeting two different needs.
 
  I'd be interested in hearing some  comments from folks who have tried
  both.
  How do they compare?  I  don't think this is a question of which one is
  better as better is going to  be defined by your operating style and
  needs.  Just tell us how they're  different and what features of each you
  like or
  not and why.
 
  To start  off
 
  LPPan P3
 
  Dual core  computer   No Computer  needed
 
  High end sound  card  No Sound card  needed
 
  Big  ScreenLittle screen
 
 
  k4ia
  Craig Buck
  Fredericksburg, Virginia
  K3  #101
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Mic gain/noise on xmit

2010-08-04 Thread Gary Gregory
Don and all,

I also use the CM-500 and run Bias L

Mic @ 19
Comp @ 15

I do have a soft voice and do speak softly as well as I am in a quiet
operating position. (Under the awning of my Motorhome) until the Cockatoos
start to scream.

Gary

On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Mike,

 That sounds like you have your MIC SEL menu set for H - try tapping
 the 1 button to change it to L so you can set your mic gain higher
 (and gives you more range).  I don't know if it will help your noise,
 but it would explain the difference between your setting of 9 and the
 other fellow's 30.  BTW, mine is set at 38 for the Elecraft MD2.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 Mike wrote:
This afternoon, chatting with a couple of locals on 6M, they mentioned
 I had some
  noise on my signal. One said it sounded like a radio in the background,
 the other
  characterized it as a loud hiss, with some intermittent high pitched
 blurbs.
 
  I disconnected the computer(RS232  audio IO) and external speakers, and
 the noise
  was still there. I turned on the monitor and could hear it.
 
  I'm using a Yamaha CM500 connected to the back panel. One of the guys was
 using a K3,
  and he commented that he was using the Elecraft hand mic, and his mic
 gain was set at
  30. Mine was set at 9, which gave me 8/9 bars on the ALC meter(ops).
 A gain
  setting of 1 gives me the desired 5 bars. Now the monitor sounds like
 mild
  atmospheric noise, with a slight static burst every now and then.
 
  Is the CM500 that hot? Where else could the noise be coming from? Does
 the monitor
  pick up from received signals, or just the mic?
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 future features

2010-08-03 Thread Gary Gregory
Alan,

I'll have one the minute you release the keyboard and text decode features
for PSK31 and RTTY..on the P3...(:-))

Now stop reading these postings and get back to work..Grin

Gary..VK4FD


On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Alan Bloom a...@elecraft.com wrote:

 Hi Tom,

 I definitely want to add a readout on the P3 for the K3 text decoder.
 As soon as I have time (pant, pant!).

 I think a plus sign tuning indicator would be way cool, especially if
 I can make it look slightly sloppy to imitate the CRT analog tuning
 indicators on TTY demods of old.

  Simple, but would begin to wean the radio from the computer

 I like the idea of being able to operate RTTY or PSK with the K3/P3 from
 the field without a computer.  I find that sending RTTY with the key
 paddle works fine, but the 7-character display on the K3 is a
 limitation.  Text readout on the P3 would fix that problem.

 A keyboard option would be great too.  You can get a miniature USB
 keyboard without the numeric keypad etc. that doesn't take up too much
 space.

 Too many cool features, too little time...

 Alan



 On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 12:46 -0700, tom kenville wrote:
  Eric co.
 
  observing that there is some indication of keyboard on rear of P3,
  is it your intention to provide support for (example) a complete PSK QSO
 ?
 
  if so, features that come to mind
- display of received text
- area to type/compose sent text
- CQ, QRZ and 73 macro's
- some type of internal logging that could be uploaded to computer
 
  also, neat if some type of X:Y tuning pattern was available !
 
  Simple, but would begin to wean the radio from the computer
 
  73
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Re: [Elecraft] Reward for P3 S/N 56

2010-08-03 Thread Gary Gregory
Heaps...Grumble...(:-))

Gary
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On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Bill K9YEQ k9...@live.com wrote:

 What would you charge for a lifetime subscription to your service, Don?

 Bill
 K9YEQ

 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
 Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:22 PM
 To: Vic K2VCO
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Reward for P3 S/N 56

 AHHH Vic,

 You shouldn't have.  Now there will be a real mountain of KX1, K1, K2,
 K3 and P3s out there with falsified serial numbers, and we can't tell the
 difference.  I guess we still need to engrave our call onto each and every
 board in the assembly :-) .

 This should move to a new thread labeled K? identity theft - there are
 probably insurance companies that will provide tracking of that for a fee.
 Starting my own business -- I will track your Elecraft serial numbers for
 $10 per month and provide you with an annual report of any discovered
 attempts to duplicate your serial number :-) .

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 Vic K2VCO wrote:
  On 8/2/2010 4:59 PM, George A. Thornton wrote:
 
  There could be a black market in fake Elecraft serial number stickers.
 
 
  I shouldn't reveal this, but they are easy to make. I have a little
 Brother P-Touch label
  maker, and it does an excellent job -- almost indistinguishable from the
 real thing.
 
  My K3 is so old (serial no. 7) that it came with an old version of
 the
 rear panel.
  Elecraft decided that they wanted everyone to have the newer one, so I
 got
 a replacement.
 
  But it didn't have a serial number, and taking the old one off destroyed
 it! The
  labelmaker saved the day.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3DVR vs CW Memories

2010-08-03 Thread Gary Gregory
I prefer to use the KDVR for CQ calls and contesting etc. More natural audio
is transmitted than my laptop recordings sound using N1MM...Just my 2 cents
worth...keep the change...(:-))

Gary

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Brett Howard br...@livecomputers.comwrote:

 It only functions in SSB mode it provides no advantage in CW mode
 other than the fact that it can record over the air signals...

 ~Brett (N7MG)

 On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Stan Gibbs s...@ajaxsoftware.com wrote:
 
  I've read the manuals and searched the archives, but I'm still unclear
 what
  benefits, if any, the KDVR3 provides over the built-in CW memories for CW
  mode.
 
  I'm also unclear how the two interrelate; does the KDVR3 override or
 replace
  the CW memories when it is installed, or does it function only in SSB
 mode?
 
 
  -
  73, Stan - KR7C
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Re: [Elecraft] New 2KW amp from the HB1A folks (YouKits)(PetrOurednik)

2010-08-02 Thread Gary Gregory
Eric,

Yep, future generations will most likely blame us for not trying harder.

Although I am obviously not in the US now, I have spent some 15 years living
and working in the US (had my own business for 7 years) and I am very
impressed with Elecraft products.

The amazing thing about Elecraft is not so much their technology, which is
top shelf, but their commitment to their customer base and their total
support of all their products, old and new. I have been scratching my head
for some time trying to think of a company in Australia, in any area of
manufacturing that enjoys the level of customer appreciation that Elecraft
receives from it's customers and I am afraid I have come up short, yet
again.

When I first read about Elecraft I was stunned to find out that not only
were they a US company, but all design and manufacturing is actually done IN
the US. We all know about components etc, but to manufacture their products
in the US really surprised me.

No more rice boxes for me...Grin

73's

Gary

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 2:49 PM, eric manning eric.mann...@engr.uvic.cawrote:

 Tom W8JI said:

 If we want to see what manufacturing we have left survive

 I think you'd d**n well better want to see US manufacturing survive!

 An economy based on the financial products [aka snake oil] produced by
 the kids in red suspenders on Wall Street is a house of cards, a recipe
 for disaster.
 Nor can it generate enough worthwhile  employment for the population.

 Future generations  will look back on the outsourcing of US
 manufacturing jobs, the dismantling of a very large chunk of your
 economy for short-term gain,
 and shake their heads in amazement that the perpetrators were allowed to
 get away with it.

 And no, it is not off topic for this reflector - Elecraft provides
 proof by example that electronics manufacturing can be done profitably and
 well in the US.

 eric
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Feature Request - Stopping CW Memory Playback with PTT

2010-07-23 Thread Gary Gregory
Andy,

If tapping the Footswitch (PTT) stops transmitting of the DVR in SSB...I
don't see why it should be any different for CW either.

I think I would have difficulty in learning to use software (keyboard
keys) to stop transmitting.

Although I don't like to use VOX as I tend to mess up too often, if VOX was
being used then maybe it too should be used to stop transmitting.

The DVR in a contest is great and although I use N1MM most of the time I
seldom use the function keys in the software.

Obviously I am not a great contester, but I do enjoy the challenges it
throws up and it certainly has helped me improve my general operating
procedures and practices. I think it is fair to say it has knocked off a few
bad habits I think I had gotten into.

I think that puts me in your camp Andy?

73's
Gary

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Brett Howard br...@livecomputers.comwrote:

 While this is true I still feel that any KEY_IN source be it PTT or VOX
 or the paddles it should interrupt the memory keyer.

 ~Brett (N7MG)

 On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 02:53 -0500, Bob Naumann wrote:
  The paddle is the most logical device to use to stop the CW from the
 radio's
  memories.
 
  In a contest, you should probably be using the CW sending capability of
 your
  logging program instead of the radio's memories as it most likely allows
  hitting of the Esc key on your keyboard to stop the CW which I'm sure
 you'd
  find more convenient.
 
  73,
 
  Bob W5OV
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
  [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Andy Wood
  Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:57 PM
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Feature Request - Stopping CW Memory Playback with
  PTT
 
 
  I have recently entered into the world of CW and participated in my first
  contest using both SSB and CW modes. I noticed that you cannot stop the
 CW
  memory playback by activating the PTT (either from a microphone attached
 to
  the front panel or a footswitch plugged in the rear). It could only be
  stopped by touching the paddle.
 
  Could this be implemented in a future firmware version? There is also the
  possibility that there may be a very good reason not to.
 
  Andy  VK4KY
 
 
 


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Re: [Elecraft] added protection for rs232

2010-07-23 Thread Gary Gregory
Brett,

I guess it's a fancy PC but then what was the 94 cents for...(:-))

Gary

On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Brett Howard br...@livecomputers.comwrote:

 Holy heck what all did you have to get replaced for it to cost that
 much?  Or was it mostly in time spent to find all the broken bits...

 ~Brett (N7MG)

 On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 21:02 -0700, Allen Griffith wrote:
  elieve that a surge from the AC line through the computer WILL damage
  a
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Re: [Elecraft] SDR with a Twist

2010-07-22 Thread Gary Gregory
Dan wrote:
Lyle wrote: Low risk way to evaluate a lot of the technology for the KX2 and

possibly the K4 IF section (QSD/QSE, no tune BPF and LPF, Si570 Synth,
switching regulator


A K4 in the worksPlease tell me more :-)
- Show quoted text -

Uh Ohthis is gonna get real interestingnow what what was that I read
about cat's and bags N stuff?

H

I'm gonna lay down, I feel a headache coming...:-))

Gary


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 Lyle wrote: Low risk way to evaluate a lot of the technology for the KX2
 and

 possibly the K4 IF section (QSD/QSE, no tune BPF and LPF, Si570 Synth,
 switching regulator


 A K4 in the worksPlease tell me more :-)

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Re: [Elecraft] 25 July 2010

2010-07-21 Thread Gary Gregory
Good trek Fred, best of luck and stay safe
Gary

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote:

 Hi,

 I'll be in the Flight of the Bumblebees this coming Sunday, 25 Jul 2010.
  I have a bee number but you have to work me to know it :-).  I'll be
 on Bald Mt, California [38+54+15N 120+42+14W 1,400m (4,592ft) AMSL] from
 1700Z to 2100Z. Rig will be a K2 @ 5W, and a Buddipole in ground plane
 configuration.  CW only, I don't have a mic for my K2, around 14.040,
 and maybe 18.080 if it's open.  I'm pretty sure my batteries will last
 for the full 4 hours, they always have in the past, and I'll solar
 charge one while using the other.

 This will also be a Summits On The Air activation [ www.sota.org.uk ] of
 Summit W6/SN-047, my first since getting the mountain added to the W6
 list.  At the SOTA URL, click on Associations, and find W6.  I'll be
 worth 4 points for any summit hunters.

 I'm a little mobility challenged, so I'll drive to near the summit, and
 schlep my gear to my operating spot [a schlep is less than a hike
 but more than a stroll] to conform to the spirit of the SOTA and FOBB
 rules.

 73,

 Fred K6DGW
 - Northern California Contest Club
 - CU in the 2010 Cal QSO Party 2-3 Oct 2010
 - www.cqp.org
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Re: [Elecraft] Some Interesting WRTC Statistics

2010-07-20 Thread Gary Gregory
Probably none as they did not supply Forklift Trucks from what I have read
so far...Grin

Gary

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 I wonder how many K3s would have been there if they were the size and
 weight
 of the FT-9000?
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[Elecraft] K3 Locked

2010-07-19 Thread Gary Gregory
Hi,

Well I have shot myself and managed to put the PWR, MIC controls into
Locked and now I can't remember how to Unlock it.

If somebody can take pity on me and remind me how to do unlock the K3 I
would appreciate it very much.

(:-))

73's
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - WRTC Customs Pro Forma listings

2010-07-15 Thread Gary Gregory
Grin...good comment

I used to think I had superior intellect after I got my K3...now it seems
they are multiplying at an ever increasing rate in my area...ya think I
educated the masses too well?

73's
Gary

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:

 Elecraft didn't influence anyone's WRTC rig choice. It's possible some
 of our customers did. If so, thanks :)

 Wayne
 N6KR



 Lu Romero lrom...@ij.net wrote:

  Incredibly interesting between-the-lines reading here.
 
  http://www.wrtc2010.ru/press/R3_license_for_SVO.pdf
  http://www.wrtc2010.ru/press/R3_license_for_DME.pdf
 
  What I find amazing in these lists is...
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Re: [Elecraft] Regarding the K3 and high QRN levels

2010-07-09 Thread Gary Gregory
Nate,

Whilst the K3 may not be the 'Holy Grail', I have owned enough different HF
transceivers to know it is the closest yet to achieving that goal.

It does take time to learn the capabilities of any excellent quality
transceiver and the K3 is no exception, but over time you do learn how to
use the many tools Elecraft have placed in the K3 and it has been a learning
curve for me and when I now operate 'other' manufacturers equipment I am
unable to find any of them capable of producing the quality of signals that
I have become accustomed too.

Add to the above my hearing issues, (Tinnitus) and the difference is truly
remarkable in my case.

The assistance provided by posters on the reflector is an added bonus.

73's
Gary

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Nate Bargmann n...@n0nb.us wrote:

 Thanks to all who have replied.  You have helped me learn more about the
 K3 and it's capabilities.

 73, de Nate 

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Re: [Elecraft] 6M CW

2010-07-05 Thread Gary Gregory
Cookie,

You are not alone.

My sentiments exactly.

Gary

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 5:29 AM, WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I don't feel that way at all.  A contact in which only grids are exchanged
 leaves me with little satisfaction at all.  I at least like
 to exchange names and QTH.  I get enough of the quicky QSOs with contests.
 I don't need more on six meters or digital contacts.  I know I am out of
 step with the avant guarde, but I don't enjoy six meters much because of
 these quick exchanges.
  Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
 K5EWJ




 
 From: Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 10:41:55 AM
 Subject: [Elecraft] 6M CW

 On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 08:29:08 -0700 (PDT), Ken McGuire wrote:

 I was frustrated at how slow the chats were on SSB (FM was even worse) -
 it seemed like they were wasting a perfectly good band opening ragchewing

 Yep. Same here. Often, an opening on any given path may be there only long
 enough to exchange the grid and report. It's quite frustrating to wait to
 call a station that was S9, then S7, then S5, then S3, then fumes, while
 the time is filled with innanity.

 When I turned down to the CW portion of the band, it almost sounded like
 a CW contest weekend.

 Yes. I've gotten to the point that I spend most of my 6M efforts on CW,
 only tuning up to the SSB portion of the band when nothing is happening on
 CW. And thanks in part to the proliferation of K3s, there is a lot more CW
 activity than there was only 5 years ago.

 73, Jim K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] rather provocative advert from Kenwood

2010-07-02 Thread Gary Gregory
Interesting advertising by MLS

Would have thought that even MLS would have recognised by now that when you
want to promote a product you get more buyer response when the advertising
is of a positive nature.

If they feel that to sell their new product they have to use a negative
advert, then I think they may find it doesn't work as well as they might
hope..

I wonder if they truly think that K3 owners are going to sell their K3's to
buy a Kenwood?

Kenwood still have to produce their radio and independant testing will show
if indeed they got it right.

The TS-480SAT is not what I would call a great radio and yes I sold mine,
the K3 is a great radio that is still evolving and being improved. I don't
expect Kenwood will update their firmware too much after they are enter
production.The TS-570 was also not what I would call a great radio, better
than the IC-718 I found, but not in the class of any Elite radio.

They will need to greatly improve their DSP user adjustments and do it far
better than the TS-480 rigs which I found terrible to use. I decided to try
the TS-480 I had for a week and not turn on the K3 as I was hopeful the
TS-480 would make a good backup and mobile rig..I became disheartened after
a few days and put it on e-bay. No regrets here.

73's
Gary



On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 7:51 AM, ussv dharma ussvdha...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Kenwood does not see the trees for the forestthe usual Kenwood non
 customer friendly support will probably prevail.

 One of the best things the K3 has going for it is CUSTOMER SUPPORT:

 END OF STORY

 SUSAN
 If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're
 headed!! Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm  AFA9SM
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  From: Lew Phelps K6LMP k6...@me.com
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] rather provocative advert from Kenwood
  To: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Date: Friday, July 2, 2010, 11:19 AM
  I downloaded this PDF file and
  uploaded it to a site anyone can access:
 
  http://public.me.com/lewphelps
 
  Has anyone seen specs and price for the new Kenwood?
 
  Lew Phelps K6LMP
 
 
  On Jul 2, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:
 
   Any chance this exists somewhere where creating a
  Google account isn't a prerequisite
  
  
   On Jul 2, 2010, at 3:43 PM, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote:
  
  
 https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0Bw6A6YLa6L3rZjhjNWRiMGUtODZiMi00OWM3LTljYmItNWM3ODY2YWU0YjVihl=enauthkey=CLe25YAE
  
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Re: [Elecraft] rather provocative advert from Kenwood

2010-07-02 Thread Gary Gregory
The suggestion that K3 owners should consider placing their K3 on e-bay is
not necessary.

Perhaps they might have considered that many HAMs own more than one radio
and more emphasis could have been placed on adding the new Kenwood to
their station rather than implying that K3 owners sell their K3 to fund a
Kenwood purchase even before the full specifications of the new Kenwood have
been published and prior to release of the TS-590.

I thought it odd that MLS found it necessary to even mention the Elecraft
radio.

I can't imagine what they hoped to achieve other than to promote the new
Kenwood offering as the best radio available.

Independant testing (Sherwood Labs, RSGB etc) will no doubt run their tests
and if the Kenwood rates close to or even tops their list then this will do
more for Kenwood sales than any advertising a dealer may make.

I may have missed previous advertisements in the past where resellers have
advertised a specific brand/model over another one. I can only assume that
in this case MLS sell major brands but as they do not sell Elecraft they
felt it necessary to promote the idea of K3 owners selling their K3's and
buying a product from MLS.

Whilst you/some may think I am being critical of MLS, I would say that at
first read I felt it odd that the K3 got a mention.

Given my past work history it is not the wording I would have used. Further,
I would have accentuated the positives of the new product I was advertising
with no reference to any other manufacturer whether I was a reseller of
those brands or not.

I was simply making a comment and I make no apologies.

73's
Gary

On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I had the same question.

 --- On Fri, 7/2/10, Al Lorona alor...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 From: Al Lorona alor...@sbcglobal.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] rather provocative advert from Kenwood
 To:
 Cc: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Friday, July 2, 2010, 4:50 PM

 What was it about that ad that you thought was so negative?
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

2010-07-01 Thread Gary Gregory
Hmmm,

Still like to know just what the ratio of units sold vs units requiring
return for repair.

Not likely to see those figures I suppose but it would perhaps throw some
light on the reliability of the radios.

These figures would need to have the operator caused repairs shown as
separate figures.

I suspect the figures would be quite good (read low) when it comes to actual
component failure.

When you add upgrades, building of new K3's, preparing for the P3 I would
imagine the picture would be a little clearer.

Turn around time for my K3 was about 7 weeks, however, between 2 and 3 weeks
was postage between the US and Australia and the Kangaroo's seem slow to
deliver here when they have K3's strapped to their back...(Grin)

Turnaround time by Icom in Australia was about a month the two times the
706MKIIG suffered terminal issues and Yaesu here are not too bad either.
Kenwood is somewhere between slow and unresponsive from the stories we hear
down under.

The biggest difference I hear with Elecraft is that a lot of the problems
can be resolved quicker if the problem can be isolated to a board so that a
simple swap can be done and thus eliminates return to the factory for
repairs. For those that are unable or not confidenrt in their ability to
take the radio apart they at least have to opportunity to use the factory
repair facility.

Just my 2 cents worthkeep the change

73's
Gary

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:26 AM, NZ8J n...@woh.rr.com wrote:


 Hearing at least a month before it hits the bench, was discouraging,
 stories of 7 weeks in the recent past is even more disappointing. At
 least I hope the theories are correct in that it is due to an unusual
 amount of upgrades and not an increase in failures.
 Tim
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Re: [Elecraft] Low headphone audio level

2010-06-27 Thread Gary Gregory
H

Guess I missed the point completely.

Apologies to all

Gary

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 2:52 AM, Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.comwrote:

 Ok guys...now calm down!
 I shouldn't have said anything.
 The K3's audio is just fine and there's plenty of it.
 I was just comparing it to the IC-7000.
 I never use internal speakers.
 Yes I know about the hi/low setting in the menu and yes I'm using an
 efficient speaker and no I'm not deaf. I'm just saying that some other rigs
 have more AF power and perhaps there is a reason.
 Looking at the K3's specifications, I don't see what the AF power rating is
 so it's hard to compare.
 So YESThe K3 has plenty of audioat 8:00 o'clock or whateverOf
 course at 11:00 o'clock I do turn it down!

 Steve
 N4LQ
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 From: rfenab...@gmail.com
 To: Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com;
 elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net; Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com;
 n...@nf4l.com; Elecraft Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Low headphone audio level


  Steve,
 
  I have never found a radio with an internal speaker that I liked. The
  FTdx9000D came close. (But what a price tag)
 
  I have always used external speakers as well as put up with degraded
  hearing.
 
  The K3 driving various speakers (non amplified) provides good audio
 levels
  for me to the point whereby I can clearly hear voices at 10 plus metres
  from the radio.
 
  This was not always the case. I sent mine to Aptos for upgrades to the
  current spec earlier this year and the audio has been improved
  dramatically since it's return.
 
  I wonder if you have the problem I had?
 
  Mine (#679) is now superb to my ears. I run the AF at 10 o'clock or less
  with or without the CM-500 headphones.
 
  73's
  Gary
  VK4FD
  Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com
  Sender: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
  Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:32:56
  To: Tom W8JIw...@w8ji.com; n...@nf4l.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Low headphone audio level
 
  As far as I'm concerned, all the audio is weak on the K3. Using the same
  speaker, the little IC7000 blows the K3 off the desk. Maybe it's got
  something to do with current drain. The Icom does use considerable more
  power in receive mode and runs pretty hot. The K3's audio is quiet
  adequate
  but just not very loud.
 
  Steve
  N4LQ
  - Original Message -
  From: Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com
  To: n...@nf4l.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 9:16 AM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Low headphone audio level
 
 
  We sort of got sidetracked from the original posters remarks. It's
  about
  low
  headphone level on the K3. If the level were a bit higher there would
  be
  no
  need to plug the headphones into the speaker jack. Similarly each pair
  of
  headphones you grab seems to have a different level. I have 3
 different
  headphones and don't intend to buy a forth. Naturally the one that is
  the
  most comfortable is also the one with the lowest level. And I
  understand
  that most people don't seem to have this problem. It might be better
  hearing
  or better headphones.
 
  A good audio line with lots of volume headroom is everything. I can't
  imagine spending so much time on everything else in the station and then
  not
  spending any time on something used and changed all the time like the
  audio
  output lines.
 
  I have never liked nor used the headphone jacks in anything from my
  boatanchors up through my FT1000's of all flavors and the K3. I've never
  found them suitable or flexible enough for my tastes.
 
  I always run the speaker line out to a switching system, and I terminate
  that line in a load safe for the radio. Then I bridge off that line with
  either a good big speaker and audio amp, or headphones.
 
  I have virtually no problems at all with any headphone bridging across
  the
  speaker output lines of any radio, and I can bridge multiple headsets at
  once.
 
  The toughest thing for me is to get guest ops to stop using the
 headphone
  jacks on receivers and transceivers, and to use the desk mounted jacks.
 
  http://www.w8ji.com/cables_and_wiring.htm
 
  I have to finish that page some day. :-)
 
  73 Tom
 
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