[Emc-users] G540, trip pots and stepper motor temperatures.

2013-05-26 Thread John Stewart
I'm getting my little Unimat CNC lathe going, and am doing axis running
tests; right now working on the Z axis (carriage movement)

The X axis stepper is sitting idle, the Z axis stepper is running back and
forth. It is really hot to the touch, and one can smell hot insulation.
From what I calculated, this NEMA-11 stepper motor has a motor voltage of
about 68 volts, running it on 48 volts. (the X axis stepper is slightly
smaller)

When it was just sitting, the motor was hot to the touch. From reading this
list, one might think that running the motor might actually keep it cooler.

Anybody know why one stepper motor would be overheating?

(10mm/sec step rate, not overly fast)

Yours truly, letting things cool off before trying anything else;

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Re: [Emc-users] Small Easy To Install Embedded PC Power Supply

2013-05-21 Thread John Stewart
Bruce;

On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Bruce Layne
linux...@thinkingdevices.comwrote:

   The CNC router is
 nearing completion, and I've added a CNC precision mini lathe project
 next in the lineup, to be dedicated to short run production, ~4 hours
 per week.  The lathe is at the local UPS hub and will be delivered
 tomorrow, and the stepper motors and drives and power supply will be
 here a few days later.  I just ordered the motherboard, RAM and SSD.


 My Unimat CNC lathe project is also coming along quite well.

I have a D525MW in case + 5I25 because I have a larger lathe to do, but
this little Unimat will be completed first, and will use the D525MW + 5+25
+ Gecko G540, at least for now. Hopefully it'll be making chips this week.

I'm writing it up on http://cnc-for-model-engineers.blogspot.com

What lathe are using for your mini-lathe project?

I'll admit that the Unimat is basically a toy, but will allow others to see
how a cnc lathe operates, by taking it to shows, exhibitions, etc.

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Re: [Emc-users] Small Easy To Install Embedded PC Power Supply

2013-05-21 Thread John Stewart
Hi Bruce -

(I really like Sherline lathes - and was looking at getting a Sherline like
yours before this Unimat came along)

My blog (cnc-for-model-engineers.blogspot.com) is meant to help those who,
like myself, are computer-savvy, and are not career-machinists. I was at
the Harrogate show (UK) a week or so ago, and, probably 90% of who I saw
wandering around were older than I am.

So, in order to keep the metal bashing side of model engineering alive,
people a generation younger than I am need to get interested. I know one or
two of the suppliers there understand this, and are working to modify their
wares...

Taking a little unimat/sherline lathe around, and actively showing it off,
and answering questions can only help.

I know Cecil on this list has a really good little one, and there are
probably others...

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Re: [Emc-users] Easy 3D Re: Correct use of subroutines

2013-05-14 Thread John Stewart
Greg;

 is the inability to import VRML 2.0 though trueSpace can export VRML 1.0
and 2.0 - but who cares about VRML anymore? ;-)

VRML 1.0 is dead, VRML 2.0 is the basis of X3D, which is still used, and is
the basis of some interesting behind the scenes things - having worked
with one technical head of a large internet 3D printing company, their
internal format is X3D - it really makes a great internal format. (Name of
company withheld, but everybody here has heard of it)

(comment - I was quite involved in VRML/X3D for many years, and even still
produce a viewer for Android that sells quite well. Internally, I change
STL into VRML, as it renders much faster because VRML/X3D has the ability
to organize the rendering, while STL is utter chaos)

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[Emc-users] Anyone going to SIGGRAPH 2013?

2013-04-16 Thread John Stewart
Just wondering - is anyone on this list going to SIGGRAPH this coming July?

I'm trying to get on the list to attend again (missed 2012).

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Re: [Emc-users] Poor CV

2013-04-07 Thread John Stewart
Probably a dumb question, but, what acceleration values are you using on the 
LinuxCNC setup?

My little mill was transformed when I added a 5i25, and really looked at what 
some of the values are. It now runs up to 10x faster than before.

Two values were tweaked; acceleration, and max velocity. 

Now, I know there may be other issues, but the first half of your clip looked 
like my mill before, the second half after. 

I could be off in left field on this one, which would not be the first time!


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[Emc-users] Cecil Thomas - CNC'd Watchmakers Lathe

2013-04-04 Thread John Stewart
Cecil Thomas mentioned in another thread that he'd cnc'd a watchmakers lathe.

I'm looking for ideas here.

A Unimat SL1000, MK1 landed on my desk last Saturday. It's mine if I want it. 
Have been thinking of taking some of my CNC parts kicking around home and using 
them, but I don't think using a 5i25 + 7i76 + Nema 34 steppers is great.

So, with a little lathe like this, if I go with NEMA 17 3D Printer steppers 
(think Reprap or one of the Thingverse machines), what would be the best, least 
expensive way of driving these steppers from a LinuxCNC setup?

Do the C10 boards, as shown in www.automationtechnologies.com's stepper motor 
kits work with LinuxCNC?

I expect this little lathe to be a toy or demo lathe; take it along to 
shows, etc, and have it run making little brass swarf piles.

I do have a computer put together with 5I25 and an Intel D525MW motherboard 
waiting to sit beside my larger CNC lathe build, so I could use that for 
computer horsepower.

Thoughts?

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Re: [Emc-users] Cecil Thomas - CNC'd Watchmakers Lathe

2013-04-04 Thread John Stewart
Hmm - lots of very good thoughts and suggestions so far, obviously lots of out 
of the box thinkers here as expected.

I do have two colleagues who are unabashed hoarders of stuff, so maybe I'll ask 
them about stepper motors. 

Ralph:

 You could use a Gecko G510 for a tidy little package.  You could
 use a NEMA17 to drive the spindle as well as X and Z, then you
 could have a C axis and amaze people with tricks like machining
 offset lobes on a cam, or use a flex-shaft Dremel-type tool for
 live tooling.

If you mean the G540 - I use one on my Sieg KX1-NU mill, and it works really 
well with the Mesa 5i25.

Hmmm - replace the motor with a stepper - there is the stepper head build 
going on in Model Engineers Workshop, so this is an interesting idea.

The little Unimats are not very solid, IIRC (I had one as a teenager in the 
'70s), but this one is a shorter bed, so maybe might be stronger? (less flex in 
the bed rods, I'd assume)

I can see this little weekend warrior project turning into something rather 
larger!

;-) JohnS.


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[Emc-users] Two machines - Re: Troll like message, value of CNC lathe vs. CNC mill

2013-03-08 Thread John Stewart
Just a FYI - I have two Emco Compact-8 lathes; both purchased 2nd hand.

One is going to be a CNC lathe; *everything* is interchangeable between lathes, 
so collets, chucks, steadies, etc can be shared.

Hopefully, this is a good idea! Time will tell.

(also have a larger lathe, but I *like* these Emco lathes)

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Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC error

2013-03-03 Thread John Stewart

On 2013-03-03, at 4:54 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote:

 Hello!
 
 I would appreciate, if someone could advice me about the reasons of
 the error message I am receiving.
 I receive it with any sample config I tried (also generic stepper_mm
 and also sim configs) and I have also reinstalled LinuxCNC several
 times without any success.
 
 
 X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
  Major opcode of failed request:  3 (X_GetWindowAttributes)
  Resource id in failed request:  0x
  Serial number of failed request:  740

Hmmm - to me, (not being a LinuxCNC expert) this is the key.

You running over a network? Looks like an Xserver failed, but that's just one 
informed opinion.

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Re: [Emc-users] parallel cards

2013-03-01 Thread John Stewart
Jeremy;

On 2013-02-28, at 10:33 PM, jeremy youngs wrote:

 i did mean to say will do step gen without the daughter card :)
 I really dont want to put a lot in this first gen control as i really...


My story. Pre-coffee, so hope it makes sense.

I had some conceptual difficulties with the 5i25, going from software stepper 
(driving a Gecko G540) to this drop in replacement.

The main issues I had was in thinking about input output pins. 

Basically, I loaded the g540x2 image at startup. I had to stop thinking about 
pins at the DB25 connector, and concentrate on the functions - the output of 
the functions themselves actually drove the DB25 pins. 

The 5i25 can drive a G540 stepper controller, or it can drive one of the 
stepper/servo boards. (or, probably other things). The 5i25 does not need to be 
re-programmed to change what it is connected to, it is configured on startup 
with a do this parameter.

Once I figured it out it makes sense, and I'm really happy with my 
configuration now.

I purchased 2 5i25s, and one 7i76 (the stepper daughter card). One 5i25 is in 
place as a replacement for a dumb parallel port card. The other 5i25 and 7i76 
is for a CNC lathe I'm putting together - I wanted spindle rotation reading for 
threading, and I believe that this combo will work well.

Software stepper is a great way of getting a machine up and running, so no 
issues there. Adding the 5i25 allowed me to increase speeds while not getting 
following errors or RTAI errors, which did show up once in a while before.

Hope this helps - down to get coffee.

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Re: [Emc-users] parallel cards

2013-02-28 Thread John Stewart
Jeremy;

 you did answer one question though and that is the 5i25 will do step gen

I did put a 5i25 in a computer controlling a mill; the mill now *flies* if I 
want it. I cranked up the maximum velocities, and it can run 10x faster (rough 
guess) for hours without throwing up a real time error. Not that I normally 
make it fly as fast, but I figured that if it could do fast things, it could do 
slightly slower things, too. (oh, and IIRC, my rotary table, 1rpm in 6 hours; 
back to 0.0, so it will do really slow things, too)

I did put some things on my trivial blog - 
http://cnc-for-model-engineers.blogspot.com, but if you have specific 
questions, do as I did, just ask on this list. Now I even have the knowledge to 
respond to some 5i25-related issues.


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Re: [Emc-users] Cincinnati Arrow 500 retrofit...

2013-02-26 Thread John Stewart
Pete;

On 2013-02-26, at 10:11 AM, Pete Matos wrote:

 Happiness is working in your own shop rocking out to Evanescence on Pandora
 while installing your brand new motors, drives, and parts for your
 Cincinnati arrow 500 retrofit.that is all. Peace

And, confusion is sitting on the beach in Turks and Cacos, with 3 beautiful 
women (one my wife, two her colleagues from work) thinking I've got to get 
that CNC lathe together… 

;-)

(actually, with finding suitable clothing, packing, vacationing, unpacking, a 
week vacation means 3 weeks out of the workshop, and that's a bit of an issue)


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Re: [Emc-users] Plasma table

2013-02-19 Thread John Stewart
Viesturs;


On 2013-02-19, at 2:35 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote:

 Since I posted lots of questions on this list about the plasma table I
 was building, I thought that I should share something:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK0hldTjnX0

Interesting! Thanks for posting the video. 

(have no experience with the MDI command/joint mode switching question - sorry)

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Re: [Emc-users] Spindle rpm display

2013-02-18 Thread John Stewart
Gene;

I purchased a tachometer from that bay store, and plotted the effects of the 
pwmgen input value. 

I was very surprised to find the results linear; I wrote up my stuff on my blog 
 - http://cnc-for-model-engineers.blogspot.com

It was linear, and when I request a spindle speed, it usually comes out within 
5%, many times within less than 1% now that it is calibrated properly.

I generally put a 2 second wait into my GCODE, because it takes a bit less than 
that to max the spindle from full stop.

(I'd give you a direct link, etc, but I can't get to the web this week very 
well. (i.e., it times out) but email works.)

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Re: [Emc-users] Chinese grease zerk. 6mm

2013-02-10 Thread John Stewart
Mark;

On 2013-02-10, at 7:45 AM, Mark Wendt wrote:
 
 Yah, I'd heard about some of the horror stories where folks had forced
 grease into an oil fitting.  That was why I was concerned for Gene
 when he mentioned his grease gun wouldn't fit the zerk.  A number of
 guys on Practical Machinist had bought machines where the previous
 owner had forced grease into an oil fitting, and left a mess.

Hey, I did this. My small lathe (Emco Compact-8) has grease fittings, and the 
instruction manual says where to grease and/or oil.

My larger British lathe came pre-greased, in the same areas that the Compact-8 
uses grease, so it seemed fairly natural.

Have been (slowly) flushing the grease out of the system; it is well oiled now. 
Only one fitting can not be greased; I think I'll have to take the apron off 
and really see what's happening. (the fitting is right beside the threading 
lever, and it's either a tapped hole for a stop that someone put a fitting on 
by mistake/mischief, or it's blocked. Not a lot of threading done on the lathe)

My oil gun is a jet lever grease gun, bottom cut off and plugged; so where 
the spring plunger is is blanked off. To use it I invert the gun, so grease 
goes into the lever mechanism and gets squirted in.

The quick change gearbox leaks oil, so lots of maintenance on the list for this 
lathe; I'd like the gearbox to hold oil, and I'd like to just clean up the 
apron.

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Re: [Emc-users] Why LinuxCNC website is compromised by Google ?

2013-02-09 Thread John Stewart

On 2013-02-09, at 7:41 PM, Mark wrote:

 I'm not sure if google's cache has reverted to an old version or what, but
 here's what I see when googling linuxcnc.org
 
 *LinuxCNC*.*org* http://www.linuxcnc.org/
 www.*linuxcnc*.*org*/Share
 May 13, 2012 – Buy adderall online. Save up to 70-80% off retail prices,
 discreet unmarked packages, cheapest prices online. We are fully dedicated
 to your *...*
 You've visited this page 2 times. Last visit: 2/7/13
 

Hmmm -  Who is in charge of the web pages?


http://thoughtso.org/2012/02/14/wordpress-google-cache-poisoning/

and other pages mention php files being touched/changed by 3rd parties. 

Also, saw a reference to mangling in footer.php.

if ( !(strpos($sUserAgent, 'google') == false)) 

and other lines like that may be an issue - made to look ok for normal users, 
but google cache gets a different version

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Re: [Emc-users] BIOS settings, EPP parallel ports - was Re: EPP data transfers

2013-02-01 Thread John Stewart
Jon (and others)


On 2013-01-31, at 9:45 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
 Sure.  What is the new include file that worked, and what version of
 Ubuntu are you using?

Not at home - but I think the include for the io.h should be sys/io.h, not 
asm/io.h - 

#include sys/io.h

seems to be what people use now, according to our friend, Google.


My version on this machine? Ubuntu  - 10.04 ?? The one from the DVD/CD install 
- that's stock 10.04, IIRC.


 
 My hal_ppmc driver does this automatically, I thought the Mesa drivers
 also had this in their code.

The specific issue was that I have a Mesa 5i25, but using the parallel port on 
motherboard, solely for input for my MPG.

I most likely could use the 2nd port on the 5i25 for input, but the case is 
full, and the motherboard parallel port was there looking lonesome.


This is certainly not your (Pico Systems) issue, nor one from Mesa,  but just 
one of those random holes that one can fall in, and your example code and 
explanation of the motherboard parallel port issue was spot on, and helped me 
exactly when I needed help.


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Re: [Emc-users] EPP data transfers

2013-02-01 Thread John Stewart
Klemen;

On 2013-01-31, at 2:24 AM, Klemen Dovrtel wrote:
 
 BTW: how did you compile the pcisetup.c. I tried to compile the code, but i 
 get the undefined reference to `outb' error. I did try to add the -O, -O2 
 gcc directive as described in man outb, but it did not help. Can you please 
 show your makefile compiler instructions for this.
 
 Best Regards
 Klemen

I, also, needed the results of the picsetup.c. 

I put instructions, including a modified file from Jon Elson on a page of my 
(not great, but its a start) blog:

cnc-for-model-engineers.blogspot.com - look for the post Intel Motherboards 
and the parallel port.

*please* tell me if the instructions are ok for you; if not, we'll correct 
them. This should also go on the wiki, unless it's already on there somewhere, 
and I missed it…

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[Emc-users] Metric threads on an inch machine - Re: Need socket head 6x1mm by 35mm bolts

2013-01-28 Thread John Stewart
Peter;

On 2013-01-28, at 4:38 AM, Peter Blodow wrote:

 Mmmh, twenty odd answers - and nobody had the idea of simply and quickly 
 making those few bolts on the lathe? Last week, I needed some 3/8 x 16 
 tpi bolts to fasten a little wood router to the table of my Cooksley …

A few weeks ago on my Worden TC build, I did a M9x1 25mm long thread on my 
british Kerry 1124 with gearing and gearbox set out as per instructions.

Tap cut M9x1 thread in steel, only about 8mm would go on without binding. 

Experiment failed, lesson learnt. Get the CNC lathe conversion done ASAP, and 
forget the metric transposing gears and the qc gearbox!

(I simply drilled out the nut so that only about 6mm of thread remained; 
hand-tightened knurled knob; more than plenty strong enough)

I have pictures of the Worden at http://cnc-for-model-engineers.blogspot.com - 
it's a new blog, we'll see how it goes.

Oh, just remembered - we know Gene has a CNC lathe, so he should have been ok 
doing this. :-)

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[Emc-users] Another 5i25-g540 question.

2013-01-27 Thread John Stewart
I'm having pretty good success with the 5i25/g540 setup - thanks to emails and 
pointers on this list earlier.

(I will send along my hal/ini files once it is running - it has been an 
interesting time figuring this out. There is a light at the end of the tunnel, 
getting quite bright)

Question: one major problem is that the x-axis motion is reversed. Other than 
switching some wires, is there a method of telling the 5i25/g540 to reverse 
it's motion? 

Now, I am a diagnosed dyslexic, but even I know when a part is coming out 
reversed. ;-)

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Re: [Emc-users] Need socket head 6x1mm by 35mm bolts

2013-01-27 Thread John Stewart
Gene;

These are available locally, but I have a few steel 30mm, 40mm or a bunch of 
50mm steel socket head cap screws. (Measured from under the head, not total 
length, of course)

The 50mm ones - I have a whole bunch;  just slightly under half the shank is 
threaded. The 30 mm ones are fully threaded, the 40mm ones are 24mm thread, 
15mm straight shank (roughly measured)

send me your shipping address, and I'll put some in the mail Monday, or Tuesday 
AM.

John A. Stewart.


 
On 2013-01-27, at 7:19 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:

 Greetings all;
 
 Does anyone know where I can order just a few, I need 3, of the above bolt 
 without a $30 to $50 minimum order?
 


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Re: [Emc-users] Just curious, backing off of limit switch

2013-01-24 Thread John Stewart
Gene;

Am not anywhere close my machine right now, so no code, but IIRC when using a 
touch probe, I did indeed find sometimes that an error would crop up on 
backing away.

Two items, from memory:

1) updated LinuxCNC; this was spring 2012;

2) when I thought I had found the surface, I pushed my way into it by a tiny 
bit, to ensure that the probe had *really* found the edge. (say, 1 thou or so)

#2, above, especially, cleared up my touch probe routines.

Hope this helps in some way.

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Re: [Emc-users] 5i25 and pncconf and g540

2013-01-22 Thread John Stewart
Ok - It's another day, and thank you for all the posts.

Kind of answering the replies to my post:

1) Kent - thank you for the grandfatherly pat on the back. I could have done 
with a shot of scotch or something (even though I don't drink much!)

2) Kent - Google used to be my friend. Why ask the same questions that others 
have asked, when google can show you the answers? Google showed issues with 
5i25 and g540 last summer/fall, but these trickled off to nothing. I had 
assumed that the issues had been fixed, that's why the get the latest source 
and compile attempt.

3) Marius - just an fyi - when doing stepconf on my mill back 18 months ago; 
the g540 charge pump disable was deadly. On LinuxCNC boot, the spindle would 
advance to full speed for a second or two; with charge pump enabled, this 
behaviour disappeared. The enable/disable is a little slide switch flush with 
the case. 

4) Chris - as someone who did a large open source project, I know that one gets 
99% complaints, 1% praise. From looking at the pncconf source last night, it 
was close to 10,000 lines of Python. Well done. Tempted to jump in, but Python 
is about the only language I have not touched, and so jumping in would not have 
been the best decision for any of us.

5) Sam - the xml files for the 5I25 were obtained from the link you specified; 
but (obviously, I guess!) it did not resolve the issue. Closer, but no cigar.

6) Peter - thank you for the hm2-stepper configuration hint.  

7) Todd; I might just post the files, and I might end up doing that, but what 
do others who have the same off the shelf hardware do?

8) Andy - thank you for your detailed suggestions - much appreciated, and, I 
believe, ultimately will prove very helpful. 


So, I guess I'll re-group, and try again in a few days, now that I know that a 
new, clean, easy config is just not going to pop out of the computer at this 
time.

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[Emc-users] 5i25 and pncconf and g540

2013-01-21 Thread John Stewart
Can anyone tell me why it is so difficult to configure a G540 to run with a 
5i25?

Chris Morley has done great work with pncconf.  But, I could not see how to 
configure a g540 with a 5i25. 

So, I got the latest linuxcnc source, downloaded and compiled today, ran 
pncconf and still no luck.

Now, I have, in the past, gone through the HAL manual to add/change things, 
but, come on, this is not something you expect normal, everyday people to do if 
you want to run a mill with touch probe and mpg, with, cross fingers, maybe 
spindle speed control.

Maybe I was expecting too much. Like, something more like plug and play, not 
rocket science. This seriously is making me consider going to the dark side and 
running - shudder - windows (first time since 1986) and purchasing Mach3 for my 
CNC lathe. 

Certainly, the week it has taken me to get absolutely nowhere with my mill, has 
taught me a lesson here. The 5i25 is coming out of the mill computer, it seemed 
to run linuxcnc just fine, but I thought I'd have the computers for mill and 
lathe identical. Wrong.

Ah well, back to software stepping for the mill, and maybe the lathe will not 
get CNC'd after all.

Sigh.

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Re: [Emc-users] OT - liquid pump for really cold temperature

2013-01-20 Thread John Stewart
Viesturs;

We are in for another bout of cold weather, with night time lows of -30C. 

I have a block heater in my little Toyota Matrix, and when it's below about 
-20, I plug it in, and turn it on an hour or two before we try to start the car 
in the morning. 

It *does* make a difference. The car engine does turn over better than without 
it. Simple, reliable. 

Buildings here used to have (and, at work, still have) block heater plugs. But, 
now with fuel injection, the old if it does not start in three 
rrRRRrrr-rrrRRRrrr's when turning the ignition key go back to bed no longer 
is an issue; the car simply starts. But, the engine makes less noises if the 
block heater has been turned on for a while beforehand.

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Re: [Emc-users] OT - liquid pump for really cold temperature

2013-01-20 Thread John Stewart
Viesturs;

Another really off-topic post. 

Years ago, my wife at the time and I purchased a new diesel VW Golf. It came 
with the standard one year, anywhere in the world we'll fix it warranty.

6 months later, we were living in the Netherlands, and this car made it over 
with us. 

One month after that, I got a recall letter in my forwarded-from-Canada postal 
mail.

The recall notice (in Canadian Traditional Format - english one side, french 
the other) said that there was a recall on some power steering units, and to 
take the car to your nearest dealer.

So, I did. The dealer around the corner in The Netherlands had never seen a 
recall notice with english on one side, french on the other. He had no 
knowledge of the recall ID, either. But, he said leave it with me, and I'll 
get back to you. We did, and he did.

The problem was that the power steering unit leaked when cold. There were no 
parts available in Europe, as it only got that cold on this side of the 
atlantic issue. So, he returned the car, the french/english recall letter, a 
covering letter from the dealer written in dutch, plus an inspection report in 
German, indicating that the car had been inspected within the warranty period, 
and it was not an issue in it's current location, but if it ever was 
re-exported back to Canada, that the power steering unit would be replaced free 
of charge.

So there!

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[Emc-users] converting TO a Mesa 5I25

2013-01-17 Thread John Stewart
Hi all;

Received my 2x Mesa 5I25 plus 1 7i76 (the stepper interface)

One of the 5I25s is going into a sw-stepper to Gecko G540 based box, on a mill 
with rotary table, touch probe and mpg.

Other than starting from scratch with pncconf, is there an easy way to convert 
the ini files by hand to the 5I25? I do have this mill set up the way I want it 
to be.

The ini files are hand-modified.

In case you are wondering: Why go 5I25 for this mill? 

a) computers for mill and future cnc lathe are then identical, hw/sw wise;

b) work through the 5I25 so that I know how it works under the hood before 
tackling the CNC lathe.

I do have pncconf up and mainly running (thanks Chris Morley) but wonder if it 
might just be really easy to do the conversion by hand.


Thanks for any advice you can give this newbie;

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Re: [Emc-users] converting TO a Mesa 5I25

2013-01-17 Thread John Stewart
John;


On 2013-01-17, at 11:28 AM, John Thornton wrote:

 Basically you just need to change the pin names to match the 7i76 and 
 change to the 5i25.
 

Hmm - seems simple enough. 

The mill 5i25 is going to be driving a Gecko G540, so maybe the changes are not 
that great.

I have read before about adding to the servo thread, even for stepper -based 
machines.


I do however seem to remember some issue with step pulse length generation; 
that should be simple enough to find in the mailing list again.

Thanks; wish me luck!

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Re: [Emc-users] What current ITX board?

2012-12-12 Thread John Stewart
Hi Sven;

I'm not saying you are wrong;  and I thank you for posting the results of your 
testing.

 
 And today I did.
 Running 2x2 GB RAM to maximize the I/O. Latency test, one glxgears and a
 Firefox to linuxcnc resulted in 15 849. Turned the graphics resolution down
 to 1024x768 and I was able to keep it a bit lower, But only a bit as I
 passed 14 000 for the same test. I still don't believe in you guys saying
 that a D525MW is able to stay below 10 000 in a latency test.

I don't think you changed the graphics driver just by lowering the latency.  I 
have not done much Linux stuff in years, but I'm wondering what X graphics 
driver you are using? Can you force the graphics driver into some VGA totally 
software render mode? 

Also remote into it, and run it as a headless station. I should do this and see 
how it performs. Maybe next time I have a few hours around the house (hah! not 
in the next few weeks…) I'll run that test.

 One thing though, I filled one of the boards with 8 GB RAM (2x4). That
 board is running 64 bit Ubuntu in the office and it happily reported 8 GB
 even though the hardware spec says max 4 GB. It seems that 4 GB is a soft
 limit.


Running a 32 bit kernel? I don't think you'll be able to address over 4g via 
sw.  Maybe they expect people to run windows, not Linux!

Interesting that you can put the RAM in, as like you, I had assumed that it was 
not just a SW limit.

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Re: [Emc-users] What current ITX board?

2012-12-12 Thread John Stewart
Ok, ok!!! got a phone call half way through writing this email, and I made a 
mistake…

On 2012-12-12, at 9:22 AM, John Stewart wrote:
 
 I don't think you changed the graphics driver just by lowering the latency.  

I meant to say lowering the resolution, of course.

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Re: [Emc-users] Curves in ZR plane.

2012-11-06 Thread John Stewart
Andy;


 You would have to raise an error in cases where the three points lie on a 
 line.

 G16 appears to be available for setting this mode, and even makes sense as 
 the zeroth member of the set.


3 vertices doth make a triangle; should two of those vertices be equal, one 
hath a degenerate triangle (i.e., a line), should all 3 vertices be equal, one 
hath a really degenerate triangle, called a point.

My 3D rendering code uses Quaternion SLERP to go from one point to another. 
(Wikipedia is, of course helpful here) 

If you want to see the code, one can see it;  http://freewrl.sf.net, or, 
sneaking around the back  http://freewrl.cvs.sourceforge.net  is the full code 
base. 

For Android devices, I'm adding a STL front end to it, and planning to add 
many more neat features, but I'm charging a minimal amount for it.  (no app 
name here, but if you look for it on the google app store, my name is a clue)

I mention this because, yes, getting a normal from 3 vertices can be slightly 
problematic, but that's a simple check. Also, SLERP code is available, written 
in C, as well as all kinds of functions, etc.


I'm still learning GCode, so G16 is still a blur to me.

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Re: [Emc-users] What should I do to get the performance back?

2012-11-04 Thread John Stewart
Sven;

My D525MW boards are not beside me ATM, but your correction seems to be about 
right, IIRC.

Certainly not blindingly fast, but not too bad either, and little noise/heat.  
I hope that their lifetime is long in my applications. 

My numbers, like yours, were higher than seen on the latency numbers on the 
LinuxCNC web site; I wonder if, as you have done, running headless is really 
the way to go for best latency.

I'm thinking seriously about the Mesa 5i25; I'll need one for the spindle 
encoder for my CNC lathe project.

BTW - I'd not bet on Windows to be a secure bet for long term CNC either; don't 
really know what either LinuxCNC or the Mach camp are going to do a few years 
down the road.

JohnS.

On 2012-11-04, at 10:00 AM, Sven Wesley wrote:

 
 I installed LinuxCNC on my board and ran latency tests and it was quite
 easy to ramp it up to 14 250 ns. That's worse than my existing
 configuration at the reconfigured PC that's in use now that this thread
 from the beginning was about. I also made the remote X tests as discussed
 earlier in this thread and then the PC maxed out at 9 920 ns.
 
 
 Correction: 18 250 ns.
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Re: [Emc-users] What should I do to get the performance back?

2012-11-04 Thread John Stewart
Kent;

On 2012-11-04, at 12:27 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote:

 
 My D525MW boards are not beside me ATM, but your correction seems to be
 about right, IIRC.
 
 And I thought it was high, but I don't have a D525MW here.
 
 I don't mean to sound snarky, but have you isolated one cpu?

Not snarky; my CNC mill one certainly does have the cpu isolation (thanks for 
your help back then) my 2nd one just has the LinuxCNC install installed from 
CD, so I'm just running the latency tests from the pull down menu. I was 
downloading installing the full Android app development environment at that 
point in time, so it was something to do while waiting for a server to serve 
me. ;-)

I'll have to go out and run both settings to see if there's a difference, or, 
more correctly, see what the difference is. 

Actually, I'm not worried about the figures, as the CNC mill runs just fine (™) 
as it now stands; the new lathe still needs lots of work before I even 
contemplate moving this new one downstairs. 

I just noted someone pointing out the latency numbers and thought that, as I 
was installing the full Android developer tools on it, that I'd just run the 
latency test and see what I got. 

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Re: [Emc-users] I crashed my machine, now I need a new drill chuck

2012-10-30 Thread John Stewart
Hi all;

Just for the record, on my KX1-NU mill, I use ER-16 collets.

I made the MT2 adapter, and got a smaller nut from Maritool.

So far, despite having about 20 things I can stick in it's MT2 taper, I have 
not removed the ER-16 holder since it was installed.

I DO LIKE the idea of the Tormach Tooling System, as using an equivalent 
described in Model Engineer back in the '50s for an older lathe I had worked 
wonders for repeatability. I'm thinking of something similar for my mill, as 
setting Z-depth all the time gets old fast.


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Re: [Emc-users] I crashed my machine, now I need a new drill chuck

2012-10-30 Thread John Stewart
Jeremy;

 an endmill holder of course!!! thats what they are for. 

If you mean the ones with the screws on the side for weldon-shanked end mills, 
they have other issues.

By definition, the holes in these holders are larger than the end mill shank. 
(otherwise you'd never get the end mill in) 

The screw acts as a pivot point. So, you essentially have an end mill flexing 
in the holder; leading to wear, and if the end mill is not inserted properly, 
it *will* walk out as far as the screw will allow, so if you do use these, of 
course you are going to pull the end mill out by hand as you tighten the screw. 
The wear will appear as oval on the end of the holder, but it'll be tapered. 
Think about it - you are shaking that end mill shaft a few thousand times per 
minute, and there IS play in there.

Ok, ok. I gave away my clarkson auto lock chuck because screwed end end mills 
are not available, while plain shank end mills are a dime a dozen. (that's an  
expression, not a pricing structure!)

For the last 2 decades I have only used top-quality ER collets. My ER-25 set 
are Regio-Fix (Swiss) with Schaubin (sp?) holder. My 16 and 40 sets were from 
Maritool - probably paid too much, but as they all just work, with no known 
issues, so I'm sold.

Just make sure that they are clean (I use a bit of aluminum flashing rescued 
from some house-repair contractors to clean the grooves of the collets).

Anyway, I'm no expert, but the above may be something to think about. Will 
*you* experience wear in these screwed-shank holders? I've absolutely no idea, 
just keep it in the back of your mind that this can and does happen.

Back to your regularly scheduled programme… ;-)


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Re: [Emc-users] What should I do to get the performance back?

2012-10-29 Thread John Stewart
Hi all;

On 2012-10-29, at 11:14 AM, Sven Wesley wrote:

 I think I'll order that Mini ITX board at the same time.
 For the record, I ordered two ITX boards. Better safe than sorry. ;)


I just got my 2nd Intel D525MW board last Friday; it took about a month to come 
in to my local store. 

What was the name of the Rock board, or the Asus board that is similar?

BTW Gene - the Intel D525MW has a PCI slot on it, so the Mesa 5i25 should fit, 
the PCI-e slot is not the same as the Mesa 6i25.

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Re: [Emc-users] Using GPU horsepower, was Re: What should I do to get the performance back?

2012-10-26 Thread John Stewart
Hmmm - 

On 2012-10-26, at 12:44 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote:
 On 10/26/2012 12:19 PM, dave wrote:
 On Fri, 2012-10-26 at 11:36 -0400, Kent A. Reed wrote:
 Most of the present day GPU's wouldn't even strain handling motion the
 problem is simply that processors (GPU) are a moving target and
 reinventing the wheel with each new generation of GPU would be a pain to
 the most dedicated programmer.
 
 Agreed, this makes the problem hard, but not unsolvable, 


OpenCL on Linux is ok. At least it was last time I tried it. I started a blog 
on some stuff I did OpenCL wise:

http://gpucomputes.blogspot.com

(It was set up not as a technical treatise, but for students) (oh, and I ran 
the code on OSX for the blog, but the code does/did run on Linux)

Unfortunately, about the time of the last entry, I had to move to development 
off of the iPhone and to Android, which does not support OpenCL. So, I have not 
done much with the blog in a year.

The GPU is massively parallel, but takes time to send/retrieve data. If you 
have a massively parallel task, then things are possibly ok. 

JohnS.



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Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC Week in Wichita

2012-10-23 Thread John Stewart
Hmmm - 

No boat needed for me, just 25 hours driving and 2,367km each way! (Ottawa, 
Canada) 

Sounds interesting, though. Maybe I'll see what flights cost. 

Thanks for the place/time;

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[Emc-users] Shapers - was Re: Hold-down straps

2012-10-13 Thread John Stewart
I had an AAMCO 7 shaper for a number of years, and had used really large ones 
back in the '70s at night school.

I *love* shapers - or so I thought. Sold the AAMCO when moving to NZ back early 
'90s, keep looking for one, but when a really nice SouthBend one came up here 
for a reasonable price, I did not go for it - the vertical mills *really* are 
better machines

And I never did use my shaper for some of those really easy to do on a shaper 
but hard on anything else machining processes. 

The last free bit of my workshop is filled with my 3rd lathe, which will become 
a CNC lathe. (Emco Compact-8)

(BTW - I also sold my 1987 Sebastian Lathe Co. lathe when I got my first used 
Emco Compact-8 - talk about a world of difference!)

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Re: [Emc-users] Mach on Linux

2012-10-09 Thread John Stewart
Ron;

I appreciate what you are saying, and, everyone should have a voice.

As someone fairly new to CNC, but not to computers in general, I'm really glad 
that:

1) LinuxCNC exists;
2) It has parallel port stepper control.

It allowed me to start really easily, and, it works. 

Is it optimal? Nope. But, it has done everything that I have asked of it, 
without a missed step or crash (computer crash; tool into material crash not 
a Mach/LinuxCNC issue!) of my mill.

Will I ever go for Mach 4 or Mach 3? I really don't see why. I'm CNC-ing an 
Emco Compact-8 lathe now, and expect that it will use LinuxCNC just fine.

The stuff just works. 

The money saved on NOT having to purchase a Windows license, and a Mach 
license, and some of the hardware that seems to be required now for Mach, 
invested on taking my wife away on  a little holiday, will pay dividends and 
whatnot that keeps my hobby going.

Regards;

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Re: [Emc-users] MPG that is compatible with EMC2?

2012-10-08 Thread John Stewart
Yeah, I have one of the XYZA ones - works incredibly well. I did get the 
breakout board to ensure that I got the 5v, and the EStop functionality for 
it.

(I started with a USB joystick, but I'm programmed to turn knobs to make things 
move; joysticks do not do that for me)

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Re: [Emc-users] MPG that is compatible with EMC2?

2012-10-08 Thread John Stewart
Whoops - 

I have one with a parallel port on it - I missed the USB bit - I should know 
better than to do emailing before coffee…

I got mine from cnc4pc.com - have a peek there to see what I was thinking about 
wrt the parallel port stuff.

(the C22 pendant interface, and the MPG-2 pendant is what I picked up from 
CNC4PC. It all went together very well, and plugs into a parallel port. 

the E-Stop function is tied into hardware, no software required for the EStop 
to work with the parallel port pendant - I wonder if the USB version uses 
unused pins on the usb interface for hardware E-Stop ??)


John A. Stewart.

On 2012-10-08, at 9:51 AM, Anders Wallin wrote:

 
 http://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/mpgs
 
 Take your pick.  I use the MPG3, but it now seems they're carrying a 4
 axis and a 6 axis USB based MPG.
 
 presumably the USB driver for this does not run in real-time? (I'd be
 careful in trusting the e-stop through USB too much...)
 Do you notice any lag if you jog back and forth quickly?
 Could one write a latency-test for the USB-driver, i.e. measure the
 worst-case performance?


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Re: [Emc-users] Helical interpolation not quite round, WTF?

2012-09-28 Thread John Stewart
Jason;

IMHO, so far you win the prize! ;-)

Another JohnS.

On 2012-09-28, at 1:10 PM, Jason Burton wrote:
 
 In my fatigue the night before, I had run the point to point wiring without
 insulation stripping to make sure everything would reach. As the build
 finished later that night, I tightened the terminal strip screws on
 insulated wires!
 
 Stripped them all and it worked fine. One of those moments...

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Re: [Emc-users] Helical interpolation not quite round, WTF?

2012-09-27 Thread John Stewart
Igor;

 I am highly embarrassed, but I will confess anyway, the problem was that
 the bolts holding the head, worked loose.
 
 I tightened them and milled out perfect circles with beautiful finish.

Sometimes the simplest, easiest solutions are the hardest ones to find.

I just spent a good few hours trying to figure out why some complex computer 
code would not run, and I felt like an idiot when I noticed that the character 
A in a name should have been a. 

(ok, techies, run-time linking with an Android-ndk library is case sensitive…)

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[Emc-users] beginners questions - was Re: SMBus control

2012-09-20 Thread John Stewart
Jon, Andy;

Thank you for taking the time to respond in so much detail. I now have a much 
better base of understanding, so that when I now go to the Mesa and Pico 
systems web sites, I have a much better understanding of what is being said.

Lots of reading done last night.

Now, I don't think my wife was that happy to have me up until 4:00 am, as the 
alarm goes off at 4:50… :-(

At least I was not machining, only web-surfing!

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Re: [Emc-users] SMBus control

2012-09-19 Thread John Stewart
Andy, and others;

On 2012-09-19, at 4:12 PM, andy pugh wrote:
 
 There are many PCI io options, and ethernet (RTNet) ones on the way.
 Besides, the P-Port has been about to disappear for decades, and still
 seems to be there.

As I'm putting together my 2nd LinuxCNC machine, I'm putting in 2 parallel 
ports in this box. 

*but* I read of pico cards, mesa cards, and other things, like the real time 
component of Linux CNC and hardware interrupting giving real time errors.

At least I know parallel port cards, and my current cnc mill works. Or at least 
appears to.


Is there anything out there, web page wise, that outlines the benefits of 
something better than the parallel port to a Gecko G540 (or equiv?)

Simple stuff, like this generates the keep alive 10khz signal, is one simple 
question that I have, but I get lost in all the technical data and don't know 
what to really look for.

Simple stuff, like why pay $$$ when parallel port cards work.

Questions like that. I know that the above is simple stuff, but I wonder how 
many others, besides me, get lost, and just stick to the old, but faulty, 
parallel port card solutions?

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Re: [Emc-users] For anybody considering upgrading their motherboard in the next few months.

2012-09-18 Thread John Stewart
Kent;

my brag
...
  I processed an AISC steel 
 structure model that Bob Lipman in my group had developed for an 
 international data exchange standardization effort--

I know Bob Lipman, back when I was doing lots with the Web3D Consortium. Very 
nice, quiet man, and I always found his company a pleasure.

Putting my 3D software into the PDF reader was something that was requested, 
but there are just too many hours in the day. Getting it to work as a browser 
plugin, cross platform, was more than enough of a pain, especially when the 
browser wars were at their peak.

brag off

Bob made the VRML Plugin Detector, which was recognized as one of the 
standard VRML/X3D tests for HTML browsers with a VRML/X3D plugin.

3D on the web is an interesting subject; for a little while I was a 
representative of the Web3D Consortium for the HTML5 Working Group.  It was 
certainly an interesting time, but not one that I'm eager to repeat.

The open source VRML/X3D browser that I managed was the largest open source 
project, and the longest running open source project, managed by the Canadian 
Federal Government. 

Unfortunately, or maybe fortunately, getting traction internally for this set 
of projects was difficult, so, although the work and people interesting, I'm 
glad to not be involved in these groups officially any more. One of my 
colleagues (and, competitors) in the X3D environment is now technical director 
of Shapeways, so the world is indeed a small place. 

Although I was paid to write/manage this software by the Canadian Government, 
if I *did* have $0.50c for every download, my workshop would be a lot larger 
and more impressive than it is now!

8-)

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[Emc-users] Tablets - was Re: For anybody considering upgrading their motherboard in the next few months.

2012-09-17 Thread John Stewart
Viesturs (and others)

Now while I have not implemented the CAD profile in the FreeWRL rendering 
engine, you *may* want to have a look at it for your tablet-based 1495 parts 
CAD model.

The CAD component is quite simple to implement, just never seemed to have the 
time and/or inclination. Other things, like machining, taking the dog for a 
walk, and especially being in contact with my wife seem to take priority (!!) , 
but feel free to bug me about it if it is of interest.

Right now my focus for my FreeX3D Android app is to allow 
STL-model-interested people to modify the appearance of their STL model; cube 
mapping, spherical environment mapping, procedural texturing so that their 
models have a wow factor.  The UI also needs work, but that is in progress.

Once that is done, more work on actually manipulating models, much more than 
the current common vertex/degenerate triangle locating code that it currently 
does. 

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Re: [Emc-users] For anybody considering upgrading their motherboard in the next few months.

2012-09-15 Thread John Stewart
Eric;

 I think your point about the desktop is well taken, and somewhat
 problematic for people that like to do things with computers.  I think that
 mobile devices are very good for checking email, but that's as close to
 work as you can get.

Disagree. Have an Android app. that displays VRML/X3D and STL files. For a 
while was an iPhone developer. Apple distributed my free desktop software 
until I stopped paying for the privilege of having them give it away.

If it was iPhone, I could use the GPU to do 3D cylinder/triangle collisions for 
CAM work. Android does not (yet) support OpenCL, so my algorithms are sitting, 
waiting for my iPhone port. These algorithms run 10x faster on the GPU than the 
CPU on my desktop computer for large models. The programming paradigm  shift 
will eventually hit all software, as desktop hardware is not being developed in 
any great sense any more. The future is in mobile hardware, even if tied to a 
desktop. 

I hope to eventually get my 0.99c app to do model slicing and CAM tool path 
generation, and reflective/refractive viewing of models.  Do your publicity 
shots on the bus or train on the way to work. Do the tool path generation while 
walking down the street. (watch your feet though!)

Sure, mobile devices are slower than desktops of the '90s,  but, once you 
figure out how to program mobile devices, you fly.

I'm not going to advertise nor push my Android app here, especially as some of 
the neat work is not yet released, but I would just say do not dismiss the 
technology behind mobile as it will *be* the desktop, and mobile, and 
everything fairly soon.

Keep your eyes peeled on the mobile devices. Passively watch my app in the 
Google Play store, and see what it eventually does. (look for my name as 
author). Never say never. 

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Re: [Emc-users] Problems with smartProbe.ngc..

2012-08-27 Thread John Stewart
Jason,

I'm not around my machine right now, and I could be totally off base:

One of the probing routines, after it found the side, but before moving back, I 
had to give the probe a nudge into the object by about 0.02mm so that, on the 
return, the Gxx command would not start with the probe tripped error.

Check to see what the command is that trips; it it is one that EXPECTS the 
probe to be tripped at start, ensure that the probe is tripped by pushing it 
into the work slightly.

on my cnc4pc probe, I think that the slow approach to the work caused some 
vibrations that, when the probe was at the tripping point it would trip, but 
settle back once the find the surface command finished. The go back from 
surface, assuming it is tripped at the start command sometimes failed. Pushing 
it slightly in towards the work sorted that out.

Make sense?

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[Emc-users] QCad - was Re: Curiosity, is gonna run this cat plumb out of lives yet.

2012-08-21 Thread John Stewart
All:

I had the Draftsight registration issue, too. I also like to be able to do CAD 
drawing on my laptop, without an internet connection.

I got QCAD for my mac. Seems to work; it works better than my knowledge of CAD 
2D drawing is, anyway!

If Draftsight is giving their software away, why bother about the arcane 
licensing issue? When will they revoke the license? At least with QCad, I own 
it until the cows come home.

(I don't like paying for SW, but as a recent paid app developer, I enjoy when 
people pay for my app!) 

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Re: [Emc-users] QCad - was Re: Curiosity, is gonna run this cat plumb out of lives yet.

2012-08-21 Thread John Stewart
Gene;

 QCad may be ok for 2d stuff, but making physical parts out of the raw 
 material is 3d work.  Toss in that nothing on this planet can takes its 
 output and make cgode out of it and my interest takes a running swan dive 
 off the 3 meter board  lands in a painful belly flop.

Whoops! I use it with dxf2gcode to generate g-code. 

I did not know it was not supposed to work - I hope it still does; a bunch more 
parts to do tonight.

(mind you, I do edit the g-code, put my standard header on the top, and 
generally muck about with it. I'm still learning g-code, so I don't mind doing 
this)

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Re: [Emc-users] BASE_PERIOD and Intel D525MW boards

2012-07-25 Thread John Stewart
Andy;

 top always shows one processor unless you press the 1 key.
 
 Even with Isolcpus top should show 2 processors, but one shold appear
 completely idle.

Thank you. I'll check this tonight.


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Re: [Emc-users] BASE_PERIOD and Intel D525MW boards

2012-07-25 Thread John Stewart
Me again;

Ok - top (with key press 1) shows 2 cpus, one idle ALL the time.  

With the LinuxCNC 2.5 release-version, downloaded about a month ago,  The 
taskset is not getting called as it should be. 

So, LinuxCNC runs on CPU0, along with everything else.

Now to find out where that taskset should be getting called from. At least I 
can turn on ethernet on my linuxcnc computer, because the issue is getting 
close to being resolved.

This stuff should be put in the Troubleshooting document - following Kent's 
instructions (as great as they are) does not get one to the solution.


Thanks;

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Re: [Emc-users] BASE_PERIOD and Intel D525MW boards

2012-07-25 Thread John Stewart
Andy;


 
 Ok - top (with key press 1) shows 2 cpus, one idle ALL the time.

Nope - (being blunt) Remember that that isolcpus is theoretically set properly 
by grub2.


1) start linuxcnc 2.5.0 from command line.
f50mm g1 x0 y0 z0
top shows:
cpu0 64% system 35% idle
cpu1 100% idle.

2) taskset 0x0002 linuxcnc
f50mm g1 x0 y0 z0
top shows:
cpu0 70% user 27% idle.
cpu1 65% system 33% idle

--

I'm going to run some tests tonight with linuxcnc tasksetted to cpu1.

Wonder, though, why cpu0 70% user space processing is happening with taskset 
set? Maybe a tight loop in there waiting for something to happen.

I'll report back tomorrow on how well my machine runs tests using an explicit 
taskset. 


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Re: [Emc-users] BASE_PERIOD and Intel D525MW boards

2012-07-25 Thread John Stewart
Andy;

 2) taskset 0x0002 linuxcnc
 
 Shouldn't that be rtai?

Ah - I now understand what your thinking is.

I really don't know - but your comment makes sense - I was throwing the whole 
of linuxcnc over to cpu1, not just the rtai section.

Right now my little KX1 is running a test with a BASE_THREAD of 25000; before 
it was 30379 and it would throw out the Real Time error within a few minutes. 

Only knowing about the taskset command for the last few hours, and not knowing 
how linuxcnc does things, I'm learning as we go along.

We'll see how this BASE_THREAD of 25000 test goes - even if the whole of 
LinuxCNC is on one cpu, as long as it seems to work without croaking, maybe 
that's all that is needed for my config.


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Re: [Emc-users] BASE_PERIOD and Intel D525MW boards

2012-07-25 Thread John Stewart
Kent;

It looks like I was wrong, but (if I'm correct this time!) running linuxcnc + 
the RTAI stuff in core1 on my little D525MW seems to do the job quite well.

It's been running a program for a couple of hours right now, and no issues.

Q: Why, if there was nothing other than RTAI running on cpu1, did I get real 
time errors, but adding linuxcnc to cpu1 made it run better? Where, really, is 
the timing issue?

Thank all of you for the replies and support and guidance.

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Re: [Emc-users] BASE_PERIOD and Intel D525MW boards

2012-07-24 Thread John Stewart
Gene, Andy:

Andy; I thought it was reliable, too….  (read on)


 I have 2 of them, running at 23000 ns for a BASE_PERIOD.  I can run most of 
 the day without encountering a realtime error.

Good - I'll try your BASE_PERIOD - (read on)

 I assume you also have the option set in the kernel line of your grub.conf 

Thanks for the slap on the back of the head . Let me check that - I did but 
it might have been removed by some machine updates.

  Going to 23000 will make a noticeable difference in the machines 
 top speed in that event.

:-)

 That also assumes you have stepper voltages high 
 enough to make decent torque at those speeds. 24 is often borderline IMO, 
 my mill is running a 28 volt supply, my lathe a 38 volt under load.

Running at circa 42V - G540, calculated optimal voltages from equations on 
gecko web site, and tuned my power supply to that.

It's a little Sieg KX1 with a Gecko G540.

I'll verify that isoclplus (name like that) parameter, and try your BASE_PERIOD 
and email back in a couple of days with results.

Thanks;

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Re: [Emc-users] BASE_PERIOD and Intel D525MW boards

2012-07-24 Thread John Stewart
Gene (and, others)

 
 I assume you also have the option set in the kernel line of your grub.conf 
 (or menu.lst, depending on the mood of the distro divided by the phase of 
 the moon) isolcpus=1,

Yes - e.g., top shows 1 processor. When running a Gcode program, it's averaging 
68% idle.

Hyperthreading is off in BIOS, as is audio, ethernet, and serial port.

I do have in the machine:

2nd PCI serial port; for cnc4pc mpg;
touch probe code in the HAL file (cnc4pc touch probe)

I did bring the BASE_PERIOD down from 30,000 to 28,000; last time a real time 
error came up was when moving the USB mouse over the linuxcnc window border. 
Poof! up comes the real time error message.

I guess I'll just live with it; it does take about 10 minutes for it to show 
up, so it's not too bad (I guess??)

Thanks;

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[Emc-users] BASE_PERIOD and Intel D525MW boards

2012-07-23 Thread John Stewart
I've got a D525mw, and every once in a while it'll throw up an RTAI error.

At first I thought it was the update manager, but turning that off did not help.

my BASE_PERIOD is 30769; I wonder if that is way off the mark? Anyone with an 
Intel D525MW willing to tell me what you use?

(I'll admit to not knowing *which* latency number to choose from the stepconf 
screens, but, my mill seemed to work…)


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Re: [Emc-users] my issue with G38.4 again

2012-07-04 Thread John Stewart
Figured it out!

I added a little G1 X+0.02 (mm) to push the probe against the materiel before 
doing the retract; I guess that, sometimes, the touch probe is on the verge of 
being either on/off and the slightest bit of vibration will change state. 

Adding the little push made the probe routine work reliably 4 times so far.

I'll send a note in to the author.

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Re: [Emc-users] Status of Linux-emc and 3d printing?

2012-06-28 Thread John Stewart
Ed;

 The fundamental problem with a RepStrap made from a typical milling
 machine is speed: my rather customized Thing-O-Matic prints reasonably
 well at 30 mm/s and makes rapid motions at 250 mm/s.

Interesting comment - my KX1 config is not with me, but as it has a Gecko G540 
and runs 48v turned down a bit, it can move faster than some.

I have seen at least a dozen Thing-o-matics and the older cupcakes running 
(plus a bunch of high priced 3d printers) and I don't remember being that 
impressed with their x/y speeds, but I was not focused on details like that, 
then.

I think I'll just order a Reprap kit, and leave my Linux-CNC stuff to one side 
for now, and learn the rep rap route for now.

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[Emc-users] Status of Linux-emc and 3d printing?

2012-06-27 Thread John Stewart
Hi all;

Noted lots of interest in 3D printing, and have saved the emails.

I do find it a bit confusing, (RAMPS, Mendel, other new words) and am wondering 
if anyone is working on a web page to provide a put an extruder in the 
spindle, and 3D print web page for Linux-EMC?

I keep thinking about pushing the buy button for a RepRap kit of parts, but 
as I have a perfectly good CNC mill sitting around…


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Re: [Emc-users] FW: Sherline Mill 5410 and EMC2

2012-06-25 Thread John Stewart
Hi Parviz;

As a fairly new Linux-EMC user; I can understand the steep learning curve.

A simple question or two:, is there an emergency stop signal turned on? Do the 
stepper motors get harder to turn when you think the machine is ready to go?

 This probably indicates that the drives are not being enabled. Have
 you connected any amp-enable pins?
 
 3- I woud like the parallel port signal but I don't know how I could test it
 
 Have a look at:
 http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Parallel_Port_Tester

I have found this to be really a great little utility. I added another parallel 
port, for a mpg pendant, and this little program made it so much easier.

Keep at it; you'll most likely have one of those slap your forehead moments 
when you realize how obvious the error is!  (I always seem to get tripped up by 
the simple things that are obvious in hindsight)

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Re: [Emc-users] Total OT: spam from my domain

2012-06-25 Thread John Stewart
 
 Anyone can change their from address to one in your domain.  So when they 
 bounce they will come back to you.  You probably have not been hacked, but I 
 would change passwords as a precaution.
 

Yes, in the early days on the fight against spam, the mail programs were 
changed so that the from and reply-to addresses were checked for validity. 

This meant that a spammer had to put (ANY) valid email address in there, and 
the mail would go through. 

If running windows, you could also have a computer virus; some of these appear 
to go through your emails and pick and choose valid email addresses. I'm out of 
the Arpanet/Internet/etc management for 10 or so years, so I'm not up on this 
aspect of spam.

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Re: [Emc-users] OT: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-06-01 Thread John Stewart
Ed;

On 2012-06-01, at 7:31 AM, Ed Nisley wrote:
 Some examples of stuff I've designed  build  used…

Like others, I'm very impressed. Thanks for the posting, and the web page.

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Re: [Emc-users] Usefulness - was Re: OT: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-05-31 Thread John Stewart
Michael;

 So while I wander past the rapidly increasing number of 3D printers at 
 SIGGRAPH, for instance, I currently can't find a use for one that I can 
 afford to have @home.
 
 might be the wrong trade show
 
 have a look dental work, or moldmaking in the jewelry trade


Very good point. Thank you.

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Re: [Emc-users] Usefulness - was Re: OT: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-05-31 Thread John Stewart
Hi Joseph;

 John, I can tell you for sure that the parts end up being much
 stronger than you might at first guess from being printed hollow.
 That isn't to say that they are indestructable -- but I was skeptical
 at first, too.  The application you mentioned is actually perfect for
 3D printing -- the various one-off'ish bits and bobs that you would
 rather not spend much time tooling up to make.

I absolutely agree with the whole issue of 3D printing, so my personal issues 
are more to deal with my specific application than with the process. 

Just an FYI; I make 1:16 and 1:8 scale steam locomotives; soft plumbers solder 
does not hold up well on most parts of the locomotive. I've had issues, and 
have seen some messes when people used soft solder for detail work. For sealing 
water containers (locomotive tenders, etc) soft solder is ok. 

These things have coal fires that glow orange when running, and the water in 
them is at about 170 degrees c.  and do indeed get hot. 

Just fyi; right now my silver soldering of a copper boiler outside (hope to 
complete 2 this summer) is with Easy flo 45; it melts at 1125 degrees f; 605 
degrees c. In shade, the copper sheet glows cherry red/orange, and brass will 
melt not much higher than that - I have melted brass components by accident 
before. (whoops…)

I think we are all on the same side of the fence here, just waiting for 
technology to catch up to all of our needs/price points.

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[Emc-users] Usefulness - was Re: OT: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-05-30 Thread John Stewart
Kent;

Take the sunglasses off. (smile)

On 2012-05-30, at 2:56 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote:

 These exchanges are beginning to remind me of the people would wander 
 into microcomputer stores back in the late 1970s/ early 1980s and demand 
 that the store staff convince them why they should buy a microcomputer. 
 The staff would usually respond it's limited only by your imagination.
 
 If you don't see a need, then ok, fine. When I look through ThingVerse I 
 see considerable evidence that many others do.

I've been following 3D printing for a while (I know from talking to them that 
part of my graphics DNA is behind the scenes at Shapeways, for instance) but, 
for home use, I'm still waiting for something that I can use.

So while I wander past the rapidly increasing number of 3D printers at 
SIGGRAPH, for instance, I currently can't find a use for one that I can afford 
to have @home. Yes, I could get something sintered @shapeways, but I can 
generally just fabricate the bits and silver solder them and turnaround is 
quicker than Shapeways. For my wife, 1:87 scale modelling is ideal for the home 
printed plastics, but the resolution is not there yet.

I keep looking, and was really impressed with the b9 creator - learnt something 
today.

I know that sometime sooner rather than later, the scale will tip, and 3D 
printers will become common place, like CNC machines are now becoming.

So, if you hear me, or someone else say I have no use for a makerbot or rewrap 
or ..  it's because, well, there's not a need.  Sure, I can change hobbies and 
create a need for a makerbot rp machine, but my wife and I have a couple of 
hobbies that we enjoy, thank you!


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Re: [Emc-users] Parallel Adapter

2012-03-30 Thread John Stewart
Jeshua;

 So how would that be specified? 0c090? The default is 0x378.

It's in hexadecimal, so 0xc090 would be fine.

(I'm no expert, but…) I just added another card to my system, and this card has 
2 parallel ports on it. Each connector goes to a port; the issue is getting the 
correct address with the correct port; either trial and error, or just read the 
manual!

(my second port came in at some high number like the 0xc090 or something like 
that; away far away from the 0x378 or 0x278 or whatever the usual is. I 
connected it to a cnc4pc MPG controller, and it worked first time)

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Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-08 Thread John Stewart
Viesturs;

(I can't agree or disagree with any of this thread, as I'm on an exploratory 
path, and I don't know what the eventual outcome will be)

 …  but on the other hand, ngcgui probably
 should go mainstream as it is much better than hand-writing the code…

This is what is bandied about in the Model Engineering forums - you can start 
CNC machining without needing CAD, CAM, or knowing what a G-code is - just use 
Mach3 Wizards, and all your worries will fade away.

So, assuming the above statement is true, for a novice I can see the attraction 
of simple machining with your simple CNC mill, with the minimum of fuss. With 
the CAD and the CAM and the GCode coming later, if required.

Much of my model building is simple machining operations, and I *do* find 
myself using my old mill rather than my new CNC one, because it's just faster 
to throw in a bit of material and machine it.

eg: just finished making two forks - 10mm square steel, a 4mm slot from the 
end down the centre of one side for about 12mm, 10mm deep.

No need for extreme accuracy, and only 2 required. I could machine it faster 
than I could type in the G-Code program, set my CNC machine up, etc, etc.  So 
my old manual mill got the job.

Now, if I had a quick way of clicking something, like the Mach3 Wizards are 
touted to provide, the CNC mill would have been powered up...

These are all just thoughts and observations.

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[Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-07 Thread John Stewart
Hi all;

As we all know, Mach3 has a list of wizards to do simple things like 
pocketing, etc, without the need to do the g-code. 

Googling for wizards/druids or whatever, it seems like this idea never took 
off. Most references I see are from 2007-2009 timeframe.

Yes, I do use the arc buddy, and so on, but it involves cutting and pasting and 
creating a g-code program; it's not standalone. 

Am I missing something obvious?

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Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-07 Thread John Stewart
Hi all;

Thanks for the really interesting answers so far.

I keep reading that LinuxCnc (emc2) is really hard to setup and use, and I 
do 99% of my machining with Mach3 wizards.

Like many here I have been programming since Neil Armstrong walked on the moon, 
but that's not going to cut it for most newbies. 

So, I think that there's an opportunity missed for LinuxCNC here. Not that I 
have the answers (being a relative newbie here myself).

The fact that my googling for emc2 and wizards did not find NGCGUI nor Anders 
scripts, and actually nothing newer than about 2007 leads me to believe that 
lots of people will assume that emc2 (linuxcnc) is not user friendly

Just an observation, not a comment or anything.  

Anyway, off to experiment with some of these things;

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Re: [Emc-users] Arduin woes

2012-03-07 Thread John Stewart

On 2012-03-07, at 2:51 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote:
 
 work now, but this brings up the thought, considering the importance of
 the serial port to many CNC applications and the serial port resource
 sharing on the Arduino, is Arduino appropriate for LinuxCNC
 applications?

Kirk;

I have many Arduino boards here with 4 serial ports on them; just the simpler 
boards share serial as you have found. 

Actually, I have some DCC controllers for the Lenz XPressnet system that do 
serial over RS485 that I have published designs (code, etc) for that can share 
the same serial i/o port, but I think that using another serial port for most 
applications is better.

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Re: [Emc-users] Arduin woes

2012-03-07 Thread John Stewart
Kirk;

 That reminds me, wasn't there a big brewhaha over model train
 controllers sometime back? I think it evolved into becoming a major
 legal battle and threatened the future of Linux?


Before my time on it, but reading about the legal battle introduced me to this 
software:

http://slated.org/jmri_beats_katzer_troll

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Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-07 Thread John Stewart
Viesturs;

 ... No offence to anyone, but LinuxCNC manuals perfectly explain,
 how to get started with this application, so I have a feeling that
 those who complain that LinuxCNC is not userfriendly, had not done the
 homework and had not tried to learn anything about the program (at
 least from manuals) and understand it.

Agreed.

Saying that - here we go with *my* scan through the documents and how *I* 
missed NGCGUI.


http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.5/html/common/user_intro.html
3 - graphical interfaces shows:
Axis
Mini
TKLinuxCNC
Keystick
XEmc (text only 3-word description)
halui (text only description)
linuxcncrsh (text only description)

but then, if you look at the other parts of the documentation, we see:

(ref: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.5/html/)
Axis
Touchy (not referenced in the user intro)
NGCGUI (not referenced in the user intro)
TkEMC (presumably this is the TKLinuxCNC, old name)
MiniGUI
KeystickGUI.

Missing in action (from the first section above) *appear* to be XEmc; halui is 
a man-page dump, and linuxcncrsh appears to be MIA also. 


I'm really keen to look further into NGCGUI; I just missed it when going 
through the graphical interfaces section - there are a couple of hidden gems in 
there waiting to be discovered.

(yes, I know - documentation is written by all of us, but I'm still in the 
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Re: [Emc-users] Axis Scale not quite right. HELPP!!

2012-02-27 Thread John Stewart
Joe;

Three parts to this:

Part 1:

I initially had a problem with the scaling; eventually I figured that out.  

Q: Is it consistently off? 

What I did for my Sieg KX1-NU machine, is that I put a dial indicator on each 
axis; move the axis 10mm one way, and see if it works. Then move it back, then 
forward again.

I found that my X axis was absolutely fine, my Y axis needed backlash 
compensation (a small amount). 

The fact that my machine was consistent with regards to what I commanded it to 
do, and what the dial indicator said, makes me feel confident with it.

Part 2:

I read somewhere that sherline mode helped solve some peoples' problems when 
cutting circles with some drivers; Not sure about the details, but it revolved 
somewhere around slow micro steps getting lost. 

Can someone else chime in here?

Part 3:

I initially set the latency too high on my computer; I'd get an error message 
on the axis display screen, bottom right corner; I'd expect that if your 
(great) computer was having issues, you'd see a message there, too.

Part 4:

Dumb question - is tool diameter compensation on or off? if on, is the diameter 
entered correctly??


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Re: [Emc-users] OT - decal/paint printing. Re: Piccolo

2012-02-20 Thread John Stewart
Kent et al;

Thanks for the info on this blatantly off topic topic;  The correct website is 
bookmarked!


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[Emc-users] OT - decal/paint printing. Re: Piccolo

2012-02-19 Thread John Stewart
Thanks for the ideas; I *believe*, though that:

1) the old dry-transfer lettraset white letters you used to purchase are no 
longer being produced;

2) decal paper for laser/inkjet printers - you can get it clear or white, but 
printing white on clear (white lines and old script lettering) is not possible 
- no white ink!

3) the old AALPS (sp?) printer people used is no longer being made and the 
cartridges are hard to get; (they had multi colours, including white)

4) printing with a CNC printer would have that neat factor. 

There are people who will make ink decals on clear decal paper (or, dry 
transfer lettering), so there are lots of ways still do this - I don't know the 
lead time or cost, though. (not that those really matter, as these locomotives 
take years to build, and any high costs get amortized over the years)

Waiting for my Oldham couplers to arrive from misumi so that I can get my CNC 
machine back running -- 

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Re: [Emc-users] Piccolo

2012-02-18 Thread John Stewart
Hi Sven;

Thanks for posting the link.

I talked to the diylilcnc people last SIGGRAPH about writing - I make 1:16 
scale steam locomotives, and getting white lettering and lining is tough for 
me, as I can't draw a straight line!

As you might know, the dry transfer lettering system is almost dead; vinyl 
lettering has been taking over, but on a warm steam locomotive, it tends to 
droop. :-(

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Re: [Emc-users] Simulator based on Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric

2012-02-09 Thread John Stewart
Thanks Anders, for putting your instructions together on the wiki.

I got it running recently; had tried a build on a standalone machine just 
before Christmas, but did not complete it.

Thanks also Yishin and Sven for pointing this out.

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Re: [Emc-users] Is the Intel D510M0 Processor still a good choice for a new EMC2 application?

2012-02-08 Thread John Stewart
And, I'll third the MW525 motherboard.

Remember to turn off hyper-threading in the bios, though.

It is my first linuxcnc machine, and the install (with gecko g540) went 
incredibly well. 

I think that the memory i purchased was something like $14.99 or so for each 
2meg module; I could be wrong, but I maxed out the RAM, and was very pleasantly 
surprised to have it come out so inexpensively.

I do have a real drive, though! 

JohnS.

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 I second the D525MW - Used it on my last build with a solid state
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Re: [Emc-users] Rotary homing.

2012-01-22 Thread John Stewart
Andy, Jon;


 
 I read somewhere that the HOME_SEQUENCE=-1 told LinuxCNC (smile) not to 
 home.  Am I correct in that assumption?
 
 Yes, but that leaves the axis unhomed, whereas you want it to home
 without moving.
 As Jon has said, you need to have a positive value for the homing
 sequence number and a zero HOME_SEARCH_VELOCITY
 http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/html/config_ini_homing.html


Thank you for pointing me in the correct direction - yes, setting both the 
HOME_SEQUENCE number to a positive number, and the HOME_SEARCH_VELOCITY to 0.0 
worked - I can now home my XYZ machine and can now get the Sherline rotary 
table connected.

This list is great. ;-)


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Re: [Emc-users] Rotary homing.

2012-01-21 Thread John Stewart
Hi Andy;

 
 Does it actually have a homing switch or not?

No, no homing switch.

I read somewhere that the HOME_SEQUENCE=-1 told LinuxCNC (smile) not to home. 
 Am I correct in that assumption?  Or, is there commands in there that say 
don't home but you should be homed in there?

Cross fingers I'll have the Sherline stepper motor re-wired tomorrow, so I'll 
have the opportunity to actually test any suggestions.

The Sherline table has only a stepper motor; no other switches. I'm not too 
concerned with the VELOCITY and associated parameters right now; that can wait 
until I get it wired. (dog sitting and wife working this weekend; wish me luck 
in getting workshop time!) 


Thank you;


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Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX

2012-01-05 Thread John Stewart
Just an FYI, I have an Intel MD525MW motherboard, 4gig ram, and disk. The 
smallest case my supplier could get had a small fan on the power supply, and a 
fan for case cooling so I guess I could say that my motherboard is fan-cooled, 
but that's just life.

Had to turn off hyper threading on the motherboard; otherwise, I think that's 
it.

My G540 and 48v power supply is in a different case; this one came from an 
old-school 6gig disk drive; the fan was replaced with a 48v fan. This box sits 
on my mill stand, and is painted to match.

Makes for a nice, clean installation.

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Re: [Emc-users] the whole story

2011-12-16 Thread John Stewart
Just a voice from the sidelines;

Keep going! It's worth it in the end.

I did the download the iso and then the burn it to CD on my mac to make a 
bootable CD. Went to my new (to me) computer, booted, and did the initial 
install from the bootable CD. It worked wonderfully. 

There's something simple (what I call the slap the forehead moments) that 
you'll find that you are doing wrong, and you'll know for next time.

If you want, send me an email direct, and I'll put a bootable disk in the mail 
to you.


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[Emc-users] qcad, dxf2gcode, emc - was Re: Hello!

2011-12-06 Thread John Stewart
Matt;

Just a FYI; I did a part with cutouts, drawn in QCad. Then through dxf2gcode, 
modified the GCode to better suit my usage. 

Ok, as I'm a novice at this, too, thought you'd maybe be interested:

1) used Inkscape to get the winding of the line segments correct. I'm not 
sure if this is an issue or not, but, did it anyway;

2) dxf2gcode; it did not put in the tool offset. I added this by hand, to get 
the correct side (left, or right) so that the cuts/kerf were correct;

3) I should have modified the code so that, rather than cut-to-outline  in x-y 
then drop, the final arc/line should have done the drop in the z direction. The 
parts produced have a little bit of an indentation at the point where the drop 
in z happened. 

In EMC, I could re-load my hand-edited file to see where  the tool path 
changed; e.g., doing the G41 or G42 cutter radius offset commands moved the 
lines slightly; enough that I could see if I did the editing correctly or not.

It's all fun - good luck!

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Re: [Emc-users] 3d PDFs was Re: Engaver Tool Changing

2011-11-29 Thread John Stewart
Kent, Rainer;

WebGL does only about 5% of what the X3D spec does; mind you, for most users, 
that is the most important 5%.

;-)

As someone who presented X3DOM to the HTML5 Technical Committee on behalf of 
Dr. Johannes Behr; I think that his approach is a good one. 

WebGL has its issues; and some big ones at that. But, if they can somehow give 
it longevity, cross platform compatibility, speed, and keep it focused on some 
core functionality, it'll do well.

I would not keep models in a WebGL format; keep them in, say, STL, and that way 
you'll be able to re-render them in a few years, should you wish to. (X3D would 
work, too, as it is an ISO standard; warts and all) 

JohnS.
 
 the data sets into supporting documentation. This in addition to the
 VRML/x3d models we were already creating and which the community didn't
 like (we never overcame the problem of poor browser support of VRML
 after Silicon Graphics went belly up).
 With current browsers suporting WebGL it is quite easy to embedd a X3D
 model into a web site without any need for an extra plugin. I tried this
 myself some time ago and it worked very good. You can see the test file
 at [1] which i created in blender and exported as X3D.
 The documentation how to do it is from the official x3dom homepage at [2].
 
 Ciao,
  Rainer
 
 [1] https://quakeman.homelinux.net/files/webgl/lcd.html
 [2] http://www.x3dom.org/?page_id=1101
 
 I'm glad it worked for you, Rainer.
 
 I confess it's hard for me not to feel this is déjà vu, all over again 
 as the saying goes, but maybe this time the technology will stick.
 
 The community I served had seen the VRML effort peak and fade away long 
 before and were very suspicious that X3D would go the same way. The 
 specs kept getting thicker but the applications didn't grow. At the time 
 we could only predict that things would get better. Considering that 
 it's taken more than half a decade to get to where you can do what you 
 did with X3D, they were right to be suspicious. Even now, X3D seems 
 popular mostly in open-software ventures. This also helps explain my 
 community's enthusiasm for 3D PDF. It was being touted by a commercial 
 software giant they trusted to have staying power, Adobe Systems. (Would 
 it be mean spirited of me to point out what that trust bought them?)


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Re: [Emc-users] HeeksCAD and HeeksCNC

2011-11-28 Thread John Stewart
Whoops - pre-coffee typo, or the auto-spelling-corrector corrected for me:


 
 It is in the FreeWRL code; freewill.sf.net; used for avatar/object collision 
 in 3D worlds. (see note 1)
 

That's freewrl.sf.net, not freewill… 

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Re: [Emc-users] I feel dumb

2011-11-15 Thread John Stewart
I wonder - I got a Sieg KX1-NU CNC mill, without controller.

It had two boards in it; one was a specific speed controller board, the other 
was, from my understanding, a common Sieg board. 

Go to littlemachineshop.com and look at the replacement parts for their smaller 
CNC mill. (look for replacement parts, CNC machines, 3993 control board, 3501 
spindle; it plugs into the motor controller, 3501 spindle board)

Ok - the little board had on the screw terminal connections:

- isolated power supply;
- 110v input;
- isolated 5v output;
- analog speed in;
- ground;
- direction;
- something else.

It was really, really easy to send the +5v, ground, and analog in lines to the 
Gecko G540 that I put in.

I did have to adjust the on-board potentiometer on this little board to give me 
maximum speed with +5v; as it was probably set up for 0-10v.

I wonder if this board would fit in your machine? A bit expensive, but a 
plug-n-play solution, if your motor controller board is the same.

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Re: [Emc-users] I feel dumb

2011-11-15 Thread John Stewart
Steve;

WRT my KX1 mill;

 If I am not mistaken, your mill has a brushless
 spindle motor. That would use a different type
 of driver than the older X series manual mills
 which were typically equipped with brush type
 motors. 

Interesting… I'm new to the oriental mills, so did not know this.

My other mill is a Centec-2B with Centec vertical head - a very different beast.

Thanks;

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[Emc-users] Thank you - was Re: Joypad pendant, hal_input errors

2011-10-06 Thread John Stewart
Wow - on my open source project, I try and give good response time, but you 
guys have me beat.

(http://freewrl.sourceforge.net)

I'll attempt to get to it tonight (EST zone) and get the buildbot debs and 
install.

Thanks Sebastian and Przemek for your help.

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Re: [Emc-users] calibrating stepper motor cnc

2011-09-29 Thread John Stewart
Martin;

For what it's worth - I'm playing with a new machine of mine (Sieg KX1 with 
Gecko G540) and am looking at the backlash in the x-y table. 

To do this, I put a dial indicator on an axis;

move +1mm, +1mm, +1mm, all show accurate moves;
move +1mm +1mm -1mm shows the backlash.

What if you did the same? At least it would show if you can move each axis as 
you expect.


From a newbie;
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