[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
Re: Ask MMY Posted by: "sparaig" [EMAIL PROTECTED] sparaig Tue Aug 1, 2006 8:15 pm (PST) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" < 6% turnout? Not bad. How many Catholics go to see the Pope? Not 6 percent, I'll bet. More spin. SO with the chance t ostop the end of the world 94% think it is not worth the time and effort to even bother. "So, how many think coming to the dome is waste of time?" "AHHH. Almost everybody." __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick, please send this info to the Fairfield Ledger
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > "inthislifetime300" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sorry Judy, > > > > > > > > David signature was not on the previous post. > > It was at the bottom > > > > of his website. > > > > > > OK. Anybody know whether deeksha is a practice > > > of a specific religion? > > > > > > > > > > It's a practice of the followers of a specific guru: > > > > > > Deeksha is an energy transfer that facilitates > > awakening to one's personal indwelling > > Divine Presence. > > > > This is an actual Neuro-biological change. The > > parietal lobes, located in the brain near the > > top of the skull, are responsible for our > > orientation in space. Without them we could not > > get a spoon to our mouth or find our way through a > > doorway. Since Hans Selye's work in > > the 30's, however, scientists agree that the > > parietal lobes are overactive in most human > > beings. The overactive nature of the parietal lobes > > causes us to feel existentially separate > > and even opposed to our environment - not supported, > > not safe. The diksha energy calms > > the activity of the parietal lobes, allowing us to > > experience our natural oneness with the > > rest of creation. > > > > The frontal lobes of the brain are associated with > > the passion for life, enthusiasm, and love > > of God. The deeksha activates the frontal lobes. The > > activation of the frontal lobes leads to > > the experience of God realization, oneness with God, > > our own personal God. > > > > Diksha is being given to humanity at this time in > > its history to assist the world's > > transformation to a higher level of consciousness. > > It is a gift of the Divine through the > > intercession of Sri Bhagavan and Sri Padmavati Devi > > Amma. It is offered through their > > followers, called deeksha givers, all over the > > world. > > This is a profoundly gross simplification of brain > functioning and is a fairy tale. Pseudo science at its > best! > I recall exactly the opposite being claimed by the TMO years ago, that more enlightened functioning was associated with areas at the back of the brain...Whatever... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And seeing > > > as how > > > > > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it that > > > they'd > > > > > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many > > > willing > > > > > to go.) > > > > > > > > > > Sal > > > > > > > > > > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? Why even > > > > bother to ask? > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > Well, you might be surprised by his answer; > > > If you never ask, you'll never know... > > > The Baghavad Gita states this, in: "Action is always superior to > > > inaction", because at least you get an answer... > > > Didn't Maharishi hang out with some 'Heavy Dudes', in India? > > > Didn't he hang with people like, Tat Wala Baba? > > > Would Tat Wala Baba, be allowed in the Dome? > > > So, I wouldn't be surprised, if someone would only ask... > > > That has been the problem; there have been such controlling; > > > People around Maharishi, that they intimidate; > > > Even the asking of a perfectly relevant question: > > > Very Sad!!! > > > > > > > The quaility of the current programs speak to both Maharishi's and the > > TMO's openness. That's why the participation is as it is. 27,000 > > siddha's ... less than 2000 participating. That's actually more than I > > expected > > > > JohnY > > > > 6% turnout? Not bad. How many Catholics go to see the Pope? Not 6 percent, I'll bet. > If the Pope was offering an non-denominational technique to experience the impersonal aspect of God, I'm sure alot of people would I mean 'er 'um, ah, never mind :) JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Diksha teacher ejected from the dome
Re: Diksha teacher ejected from the dome Posted by: "Marek Reavis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] marekreavis Tue Aug 1, 2006 12:11 pm (PST) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > **SNIP** > On the above [SNIPPED] point, I don't think it's a matter of the TMO telling > them that they can't do the non-TM activities on the course but, > rather, because of a religious activity performed by this individual > during NON-Dome practise he is being told he can't attend the Dome. > > It was this discrimination based solely upon this individual's > personal religious practises that I earlier suggested was a > violation of federal equality laws (this individual adheres to, > practises and is regular in both TM and TM Sidhis and only does > those practises as per the instructions while in the Dome). > **END** Yes, but the exclusion of people from TMO courses is still legally valid because the TMO makes the rules, or sets the conditions, which determine whether or not a person is accepted to the course or is allowed to participate. There's no actual discrimination based on religion (I would argue) because likely neither the TMO or the individual who's practicing diksha would define any of the activities as religious. And even if they did, it's still okay for a religion to define what constitutes acceptable religious behavior and to exclude behavior that doesn't comport with their belief or dogma. I'd expect that the TMO would make the argument that the technology of world peace or the Maharishi Effect would somehow or another be compromised by the outside-the-dome activities of the person regardless of their adherence with other authorized TMO practices while in the dome. The sad thing, as Robert G. points out in #107744, is "Why would an organization, which is trying to create unity, and harmony, Take an action like this, that creates seperateness, and disharmony; . . .." The contradictions that have existed in the TMO for a long time are really dismaying. But, for what it's worth, they don't seem to be that much different than any other organized endeavor of humans on the planet. It's just that many or most of us thought at some time in our life that this was different. Apparently not. well said. i hope that sums it up. may the TMO RIP!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And seeing > > > as how > > > > > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it that > > > they'd > > > > > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many > > > willing > > > > > to go.) > > > > > > > > > > Sal > > > > > > > > > > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? Why even > > > > bother to ask? > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > Well, you might be surprised by his answer; > > > If you never ask, you'll never know... > > > The Baghavad Gita states this, in: "Action is always superior to > > > inaction", because at least you get an answer... > > > Didn't Maharishi hang out with some 'Heavy Dudes', in India? > > > Didn't he hang with people like, Tat Wala Baba? > > > Would Tat Wala Baba, be allowed in the Dome? > > > So, I wouldn't be surprised, if someone would only ask... > > > That has been the problem; there have been such controlling; > > > People around Maharishi, that they intimidate; > > > Even the asking of a perfectly relevant question: > > > Very Sad!!! > > > > > > > The quaility of the current programs speak to both Maharishi's and the > > TMO's openness. That's why the participation is as it is. 27,000 > > siddha's ... less than 2000 participating. That's actually more than I > > expected > > > > JohnY > > > > 6% turnout? Not bad. How many Catholics go to see the Pope? Not 6 percent, I'll bet. > That's why I said it was more than I expected. Maybe they'll get to sell lots of vastu construction. Just like timeshare sales JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
Re: Ask MMY Posted by: "sparaig" [EMAIL PROTECTED] sparaig Tue Aug 1, 2006 2:11 pm (PST) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "blissbunn1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the dome these days ask the question > about a foundation in TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings in > participants lives. Ask MMY if he wants these avid broadminded seekers excluded from the > courses or included to bring up the numbers. There are still 1,000+- siddhas in Fairfield > not in the dome. > Actually, if you look at the brainwave patterns of TM and the TM-Sidhis compared to virtually every other meditation technique out there, the differences are so startling and drastic that anyone that choses to practice those other techniques obviously doesn't get the role that TM/ TM-Sidhis are playing. AND, the detrimental effect those techniques are playing as well. Given the insensitivity of such people, its only politeness that brings the TMO to ban them without any comment: they're stupid and counter-evolutionary, but the TMO doesn't say it. I think you actually believe your own bullshit. What techniques tha t are detrimental are you referring to? And what research do you have to back up your claims.? Thruout India I have sat with various gurus who extolled the virtues of sadhana but never mentioned TM. Even at Jyotir Math the shankaracharya's right hand man, Ramananda Saraswati, told me his main sadhana was japa, not TM. Just because you write it , does not make it so. You should take a lie detector test. After reading a number of your posts I believe you will make up anything to justify your point of view and have a great need to be right, truth be damned. Get some help man, for God's sake. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: File - FFL Acronyms
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: File - FFL Acronyms on 8/1/06 10:09 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: > > > BC - Brahman Consciousness > BN - Bliss Ninny or Bliss Nazi > CC - Cosmic Consciousness > GC - God Consciousness > MMY - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi > POV - Point of View > SBS - Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, Maharishi's master > SCI ˆ Science of Creative Intelligence > SSRS - Sri Sri Ravi Shankar (Pundit-ji) > SV - Stpathya Ved (Vedic Architecture) > TB - True Believer (in TM doctrines) > TNB - True Non-Believer > TMO - The Transcendental Meditation organization > TTC ˆ TM Teacher Training Course > UC - Unity Consciousness > YMMV = Your Mileage may vary > IMO - In My Opinion IMHO - In My Humble Opinion IMNSHO - In My Not-So Humble Opinion LOL - Laughing Out Loud ROTFLOL/ROFLOL Rolling On the Floor, Laughing Out Loud ROTFLOLSTC - Rolling On The Floor, Laughing Out Loud, Scaring The Cat (my favorite) Thanks, but these are universal Internet acronyms. I tried to list just the ones that are exclusive to FFL. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And seeing > > as how > > > > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it that > > they'd > > > > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many > > willing > > > > to go.) > > > > > > > > Sal > > > > > > > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? Why even > > > bother to ask? > > > > > > JohnY > > > > Well, you might be surprised by his answer; > > If you never ask, you'll never know... > > The Baghavad Gita states this, in: "Action is always superior to > > inaction", because at least you get an answer... > > Didn't Maharishi hang out with some 'Heavy Dudes', in India? > > Didn't he hang with people like, Tat Wala Baba? > > Would Tat Wala Baba, be allowed in the Dome? > > So, I wouldn't be surprised, if someone would only ask... > > That has been the problem; there have been such controlling; > > People around Maharishi, that they intimidate; > > Even the asking of a perfectly relevant question: > > Very Sad!!! > > > > The quaility of the current programs speak to both Maharishi's and the > TMO's openness. That's why the participation is as it is. 27,000 > siddha's ... less than 2000 participating. That's actually more than I > expected > > JohnY > 6% turnout? Not bad. How many Catholics go to see the Pope? Not 6 percent, I'll bet. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: File - FFL Acronyms
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: > > > BC - Brahman Consciousness > BN - Bliss Ninny or Bliss Nazi > CC - Cosmic Consciousness > GC - God Consciousness > MMY - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi > POV - Point of View > SBS - Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, Maharishi's master > SCI Science of Creative Intelligence > SSRS - Sri Sri Ravi Shankar (Pundit-ji) > SV - Stpathya Ved (Vedic Architecture) > TB - True Believer (in TM doctrines) > TNB - True Non-Believer > TMO - The Transcendental Meditation organization > TTC TM Teacher Training Course > UC - Unity Consciousness > YMMV = Your Mileage may vary > IMO - In My Opinion IMHO - In My Humble Opinion IMNSHO - In My Not-So Humble Opinion LOL - Laughing Out Loud ROTFLOL/ROFLOL Rolling On the Floor, Laughing Out Loud ROTFLOLSTC - Rolling On The Floor, Laughing Out Loud, Scaring The Cat (my favorite) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi v. Gibson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > > > "The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world" -- Mel > > > Gibson, 7-29-06 > > > > > > "Wherever there is destruction, it's the doing of America." -- > > > Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 7-17-02 > > > > > > Well, who's right...Maharishi or Mel? > > > > > > It's either the Jews or the Americans that are responsible for > all the > > > wars in the world...can't be both! > > > > > > > Heh. Most people consider Israel a client state of the USA. > > I would go with Maharishi's analysis; > Since he is sober, and Mel was drunk, and now has taken all of these > remarks back; > And now is actually seeking help from the Jewish community; > For his spiritual and alcohol problems.. > In America's case, since the reign of King George II; > Our image in the world, has been quite tarnished... > The situation in Iraq, continues to deteriorate; > The Israelis are having to fend for themselves; > In the absence of a United States President; > Who could act as a restorer of balance; > Like most, if not all of our past Presidents. > Bush has left the Middle East burn. > I think that might be his intention. > > > Dobutful. Bush, by all accounts is a zealous Zionist, or at least, comes from a religious perspective that generally includes Zionism as a given. He's just inept, whether it comes to preventing terrorist attacks that he had ample forewarning of, or conducting invasions of 3rd world countries, or handling the Middle East peace process. Remember, his GF/Sec of State is a Cold War warrior --she got her PhD in the subject, literally. She's not got the background to deal with FORMER USSR client states who are fending for themselves and playing political power games without superpower coaching. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] The latest & Thin soup and engaging in non-stop vandalism, on FFL?
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] The latest & Thin soup and engaging in non-stop vandalism, on FFL? on 8/1/06 9:17 PM, dhamiltony2k5 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I git a flow of requests about FFL. Academics, reporters, authors journalists and folks on the side. There’s an index in the links section at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/links/_FairfieldLife_Index_001117813309/ Everyone is encouraged and enabled to contribute to it. Whenever you see a post that would have lasting reference value, add a link to it. Try to keep a logical structure to the index. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Index to FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Meditating Community and the TMO, Fairfieldlife. > > > Fairfield Life, Indexing the Story Here at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > The FFL list can be read off the internet from its homepage, without > having to be a member. Go to the home page, start there by clicking > on 'messages'. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/messages > > > From there you can insert these numbers into the message # search > box. That will take you to the area of the archive of these threads. > > > Often I point newcomers, recent arrivals or outsiders to FFL through > this list. Below is a quick index. Scroll down through this index > and survey the range of subject threads. > > This index includes many various summary posts in the archive like: > > > > -the petition contained in post # 3811 (The Meditating Rift Here) > > -The TMO, partitioning the Meditating Community thread, # 3478 > > -Meditating Classical Concert Pianist Banned from MUM thread #3113 > (late Nov, Dec '02) > > -Meditating Irish Musician Banned from MUM # 2963 > > -Meditators Banned from MUM # 4219 , 4402 > > > -Is Everyone Welcome? 953 > > -The difference between a shooting star and a falling one: # 2960 > > > The Meditating Community Mexican Stand-off: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/26429 > > > > > -The one hundred millionaires thread # 985 or 949 > > -Some resolution #726 and thread > > -Heavenly Mountain # 935 > > -Legal remedy and threads # 3965 > > -The meditating community-wide survey # 3896 thread > > Also look in the "files" section of FFL. The actual survey is > archived there. The seeds of the present where present then in > 1994~ It is a very interesting reading. > > -Fairfield and the TMO, the dwindle # 4724 > > -The Iowa Meditating Landscape, Trickle-down Depopulation 4503 , > 4502 , 13564 > > -The Kaplans and their money threads, # 3040 or # 3420 > > > The recurring million dollar questions spread throughout the archive: > > -Fiscal Soundness summary, 5958 > > -Financial disclosure thread, 5012, 5026 > > The Real Estate Guru, D Magazine, 10938 > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/10938 > > Estimating the Assets: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13902 > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13959 > > > Hartford Advocate, Maharishi's Hotel of Emptiness: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/17234 > > TMO purchases NYC Wall Street building > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/28546 > > > -Endowing, process and The Meditating Community 637 > > -The Kaplan Lawsuit > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/10936 > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13217 > > > -Kaplans > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13274 > > > -Lawsuit Against the Kaplans > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/17110 > > (More on the Kaplans & Heavenly Mountain in sequence below) > > > -The TMO and the CIA thread 5752 > > -Threats in the fair field, 5057 and 5063 , 30276 > > > -What is the hook here, what is the story here thread, # 4813 # > 4762 > > -The Sex Summaries I-IV, 6154 through 6157 and and also posts during > late December 2002 and post # 7663, > > - Sexy-Sadie.txt, A compilation of posts about MMY's other guru > life. In the "files" section of FFL: > http://f2.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/gIA3QBSi0yiUE0KAJU0EYsFiuNMzTjUDZ9j_z6LV > 5ZzXmp28u4oqzeDr-oTxvZoE24PfMGM0qlTS19MYa1GOhseOzU9TQi15Llf-/Sexy- > Sadie.txt > You might have to sign in to read the 'files' section of the FFL > archive > > > -Summarized Topic Articles Titled:, 4813 > > -Guru Dev's Discourse: Gyan & Bhakti 7883 and 7884 > > -TM Scandals a Logical Sequence, 7430, Insights to TMO in India, 7504 > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13338 > > > -J.Krishnamurti, 1929 Speech Dissolving his organization, post 7513 > > -Search for Global Queen, 7664 > > -Just go, don't enter in to the politics, Karunamayi, 7849 > > -Tax-exempt Status Lost, 7793 > > -TM&Sedona, 7510 > > - Walking the dog, where to go to learn meditation outside the cult: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13502 > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/37303 > > > > -MMY's comments about other techniques, links: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/28270 > > > -The Diaspora, The Informal-TMO, 8176 > > -Bevan, MUM Presidential Frolic'ng , 8220 > > About Cult in the TMO culture.. 10346 > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/10346 > Cult test: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/10307 > > Of Contracts, vows and loyalty testing thread 10307, 10319 > > -Funding the Pundits thread, 12679, 13565, 16026 Rudra's Letter: > http://g
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And seeing > > as how > > > > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it that > > they'd > > > > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many > > willing > > > > to go.) > > > > > > > > Sal > > > > > > > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? Why even > > > bother to ask? > > > > > > JohnY > > > > Well, you might be surprised by his answer; > > If you never ask, you'll never know... > > The Baghavad Gita states this, in: "Action is always superior to > > inaction", because at least you get an answer... > > Didn't Maharishi hang out with some 'Heavy Dudes', in India? > > Didn't he hang with people like, Tat Wala Baba? > > Would Tat Wala Baba, be allowed in the Dome? > > So, I wouldn't be surprised, if someone would only ask... > > That has been the problem; there have been such controlling; > > People around Maharishi, that they intimidate; > > Even the asking of a perfectly relevant question: > > Very Sad!!! > > > > The quaility of the current programs speak to both Maharishi's and the > TMO's openness. That's why the participation is as it is. 27,000 > siddha's ... less than 2000 participating. That's actually more than I > expected > > JohnY > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And seeing > > as how > > > > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it that > > they'd > > > > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many > > willing > > > > to go.) > > > > > > > > Sal > > > > > > > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? Why even > > > bother to ask? > > > > > > JohnY > > > > Well, you might be surprised by his answer; > > If you never ask, you'll never know... > > The Baghavad Gita states this, in: "Action is always superior to > > inaction", because at least you get an answer... > > Didn't Maharishi hang out with some 'Heavy Dudes', in India? > > Didn't he hang with people like, Tat Wala Baba? > > Would Tat Wala Baba, be allowed in the Dome? > > So, I wouldn't be surprised, if someone would only ask... > > That has been the problem; there have been such controlling; > > People around Maharishi, that they intimidate; > > Even the asking of a perfectly relevant question: > > Very Sad!!! > > > > The quaility of the current programs speak to both Maharishi's and the > TMO's openness. That's why the participation is as it is. 27,000 > siddha's ... less than 2000 participating. That's actually more than I > expected > > JohnY > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] The latest & Thin soup and engaging in non-stop vandalism, on FFL?
I git a flow of requests about FFL. Academics, reporters, authors journalists and folks on the side. This came in this morning: "FFL seems to get a thousand posts a day, and I can't find stuff even if I know what I'm looking for." For short pointer, i sent this back to that recent request: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/104974 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/107519 Under the 'Messages' button, it works great too to put the number of these messages in to the message number 'search' box. Then that takes you to the area of the archive where these posts occur. Then you can scroll back and forth using the 'older' & 'newer' buttons. Also once you are there you can read the threads the treads to git the context. I hope this is useful. With Kind Regards from Fairfield, -Doug in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It is a method, wikipedia and non-stop vandalism. Sort of like series > of posts on FFL un-related to anything FFL? Though Rick has set the > forum here up for "anything" in the homepage description "Pretty much > any topic is fair game". Pretty much. "Whatever you think, it's more > than that" > It has become thin soup. FI, what wass that recent Lincoln post > connection to FFL? Did i miss something in that post? Did the author > take a moment anywhere in the post to make a connection to something > FFL? Were the global warming ones about peer review research or > something, sort of like the TMO's use of peer review or were they > about the weather in FF or in some other places where the sunshines on > things FFL related? There are so many posts and threads here unrelated > to anything FFL that it is hard to keep track of FFL anymore. Rick > you are just too dang permissive for this to still be much of a useful > place, starting back on the home page. > Fly the 'guidelines' file again may be? > > -Doug in FF > .. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > wrote: > > > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And seeing > as how > > > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it that > they'd > > > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many > willing > > > to go.) > > > > > > Sal > > > > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? Why even > > bother to ask? > > > > JohnY > > Well, you might be surprised by his answer; > If you never ask, you'll never know... > The Baghavad Gita states this, in: "Action is always superior to > inaction", because at least you get an answer... > Didn't Maharishi hang out with some 'Heavy Dudes', in India? > Didn't he hang with people like, Tat Wala Baba? > Would Tat Wala Baba, be allowed in the Dome? > So, I wouldn't be surprised, if someone would only ask... > That has been the problem; there have been such controlling; > People around Maharishi, that they intimidate; > Even the asking of a perfectly relevant question: > Very Sad!!! > The quaility of the current programs speak to both Maharishi's and the TMO's openness. That's why the participation is as it is. 27,000 siddha's ... less than 2000 participating. That's actually more than I expected JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Indexing the latest TMO outrage
Obviously, TM failed you because you undoubtedly weren't doing your program correctly. That means 20 more lifetimes of doing security duty at MUM, tossing people out of the dome for impure thoughts. Sal On Aug 1, 2006, at 9:04 PM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote: FFL seems to get a thousand posts a day, and I can't find stuff even if I know what I'm looking for.
[FairfieldLife] Indexing the latest TMO outrage
FFL seems to get a thousand posts a day, and I can't find stuff even if I know what I'm looking for. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/104974 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/107519 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Indexing the latest TMO outrage
FFL seems to get a thousand posts a day, and I can't find stuff even if I know what I'm looking for. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/104974 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/107519 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Denmark is happiest place on Earth
--- http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/5224306.stm --- --- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] File - FFL Acronyms
BC - Brahman Consciousness BN - Bliss Ninny or Bliss Nazi CC - Cosmic Consciousness GC - God Consciousness MMY - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi POV - Point of View SBS - Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, Maharishi's master SCI Science of Creative Intelligence SSRS - Sri Sri Ravi Shankar (Pundit-ji) SV - Stpathya Ved (Vedic Architecture) TB - True Believer (in TM doctrines) TNB - True Non-Believer TMO - The Transcendental Meditation organization TTC TM Teacher Training Course UC - Unity Consciousness YMMV = Your Mileage may vary To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] File - FFL Guidelines.txt
Guidelines File 12/22/05 Fairfield Life averages 75-150 posts a day; 300+ on peak days. To avoid having your inbox flooded, we suggest one of the following: 1) Opt to receive the emails, but create a folder in your email client and a rule to direct all FFL posts to that folder. 2) Choose the "no emails" option and read FFL in your browser. 3) Opt to receive the daily digest. 4) Create another email account solely for FFL posts. Yahoo and Google now give free 2Gb accounts. 5) You can also read FFL posts at http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com/. Some say this is faster than the Yahoo groups interface, and prefer it because it allows sorting by thread and has a better search function. 6) In order to prevent a repeat of the incident in which apparently, a malicious member uploaded some x-rated photos and then notified Yahoo that our chat had x-rated photos, thus causing our temporary reclassification to the adult category, we have limited all members to read-only access for files, photos, links, database, and calendar. If you would like to upload something, please notify Gullible Fool ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or Rick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). We'll then temporarily lift the limitation, and impose it again after you're finished. Sorry for the inconvenience. 7) Our Files and Photos section are usually full. If you want to upload something, send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It will be uploaded to http://alex.natel.net/ffl/. We'll occasionally move the "best" material from there to FFL, and may archive some FFL stuff there. -- Check out http://www.frappr.com/fairfieldlife and add yourself if you feel like it. -- 1) This group has long maintained a thoughtful and considerate tone. Please refrain from personal attacks, insults and excessive venting. "Speak the truth that is sweet" is a worthy aspiration. If angry, take some time to gain composure before writing or pushing the send button. 2) Edit your posts and make them as concise and non-repetitive as possible. 3) Please be highly selective in quoting a message to which you are responding, deleting all but the most relevant portions of the prior posts. This makes the daily digest easier to read for those who subscribe to it. 4) Try to make clear to the reader if you are writing from the perspective of personal experience, from information gained from teachers or books, from your own thoughts, reasoning, logic or conjecture. Please cite sources where relevant. 5) Reference prior posts by their archive number whenever possible. 6) Anonymous posts are permitted, using an account you create. 7) FFL is a newsgroup public forum. FFL can be openly read from the web. Posting privileges are through membership only. Material published to FFL is not privileged or protected by law. Material published to FFL might be quoted and used elsewhere. 8) Make cross-posts from other sites only as they are highly relevant to this group. If you think another site has great value, write one post saying so, then let others join or go to that site on their own, at their discretion. 9) Only post links to other sites that are relevant references to the specific discussion at hand. 10) While friendly exchange between friends is natural, try to pass on personal messages via personal e-mail, refraining where possible from sending personal messages to the whole list. 11) Feel to invite your friends to join FFL, and to use the site's Promote feature on your websites. The broader the personal network, the greater the value to all. Friends may now access the posts of FFL directly off the home page without having to join the list. 12) Please don't post commercial announcements in the main message area. See the Database, Links and Files sections for folders that have been set up listing books, CDs, DVDs and other items for trade, a Fairfield ride board, local events, hiring/looking for work announcements, informative articles, useful, links, etc. 13) Discussions of politics that affect personal growth and world consciousness are allowed. However, be kind and respectful of others' viewpoints. Come with a humble heart, an open mind, and the desire to contribute constructively to everyone's broader awareness. 14) Keep in mind that many FFL members desire to maintain anonymity. If you happen to know a member's real name, perhaps because that member has mentioned it in a post or two, or just to you privately, please refer to that member only by the pseudonym. 15) If you want to make suggestions for the refinement of these guidelines, please post it in the forum. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi v. Gibson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" wrote: > > > > "The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world" -- Mel > > Gibson, 7-29-06 > > > > "Wherever there is destruction, it's the doing of America." -- > > Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 7-17-02 > > > > Well, who's right...Maharishi or Mel? > > > > It's either the Jews or the Americans that are responsible for all the > > wars in the world...can't be both! > > > > Heh. Most people consider Israel a client state of the USA. I would go with Maharishi's analysis; Since he is sober, and Mel was drunk, and now has taken all of these remarks back; And now is actually seeking help from the Jewish community; For his spiritual and alcohol problems.. In America's case, since the reign of King George II; Our image in the world, has been quite tarnished... The situation in Iraq, continues to deteriorate; The Israelis are having to fend for themselves; In the absence of a United States President; Who could act as a restorer of balance; Like most, if not all of our past Presidents. Bush has left the Middle East burn. I think that might be his intention. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Mel Gibson view
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > > > I spoke to my psychology class about this. Mel's > > behavior is a great example of what happens when > > there's no ego, no superego and only id. This is not > > how Mel "really" feels, it's just his id running the > > show. All of us would have some very brutal things to > > say if we were as sh*tfaced as Mel was. > > > > Bullshit. I've been falling down drunk when I was a kid. My behavior was obnoxious because I > wouldn't stop singing loudly while others were trying to sleep. No fights, no rotten things to > say about others, and when others shushed me, I said sorry and continued singing. > > Drunkeness brings out *repressed* behavior. It does't bring out entirely new behaviors, > unless you have a some physiological problem with processing alcohol. Gibson is just an > angry drunk who expresses his repressed anger. His entire set of behaviors is merely a > continuation of what he does already in his professional life. Or do you think that the Passion > of Christ isn't anti-Semetic? This is true of my experience also, and I have had trouble with alcohol and have been to many AA meetings. For me alcohol gives me a sort of 'liquid courage'; And lessons my inhibitions; So, if I would drink, especially when I was going through; My divorce, for example; I would get really mean, and the anger would just pour out.. It's not a good drug for me; And obviously not a good drug for poor Mel; Who now appears to be in quite a fix... > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > wrote: > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And seeing as how > > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it that they'd > > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing > > to go.) > > > > Sal > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? Why even > bother to ask? > > JohnY Well, you might be surprised by his answer; If you never ask, you'll never know... The Baghavad Gita states this, in: "Action is always superior to inaction", because at least you get an answer... Didn't Maharishi hang out with some 'Heavy Dudes', in India? Didn't he hang with people like, Tat Wala Baba? Would Tat Wala Baba, be allowed in the Dome? So, I wouldn't be surprised, if someone would only ask... That has been the problem; there have been such controlling; People around Maharishi, that they intimidate; Even the asking of a perfectly relevant question: Very Sad!!! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick, please send this info to the Fairfield Ledger
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ]...\ > At least Fred Travis is trying to ground his > theorizing with up-to-date brain functioning theory > and EEG studies. He also doesn't regress into > metaphorical analogies that are closer to phrenology > than neurology. > There's more to the theory than that, of course. I mean, HOW does TM lead to this state in the first place and how does it keep going? Fred is feeding me the theory in bits and pieces as I try to animate it. Right now I'm still at step one, showing the initial input from the eye, through optic nerve into the thalamus, where most of the data is fed directly to the primary visual cortex, percolates through the rest of the visual cortex and the temporal lobe, and then sent back to the thalamus to merge with the incoming visual signal. Once I get that looking pretty (or at least quasi-acceptable), we'll go to step two, to show what happens when one closes one's eyes, where the initial input ceases, but the feedback loop tends to continue for a bit. The "inner tv screen" of your mind really IS like one in a certain respect: the pattern of activation of the rods and cones in the brain is kept intact, almost like a bitmapped image, all the way through the thalmus into the visual cortex. There's pretty much a one-to-one correspondance between the raw data collected from the retina through the optic nerve back to the back of the head. The primary visual cortex is practically in a straigh line drawn from the eye through the thalamus to the back of the head and the info, while its been split and inverted along the way, is pretty much in the same overall pattern as it was during the original physical impact of photons on the retina. IOW, if the nerve bundle were a fiber optic cable, you could aim it at a regular screen and you would see pretty much the original image that hit the eye or at least half of it, upside down--the other half goes to the other half of the brain.. wha's amazing is that the output from the processed image gets fed back into the original raw data stream in some kind of "meaningful" way after having been processed by 100's of millions of neurons in half a dozen different parts of the brain with presumably radically different processing styles. That's where the miracle part comes in, IMHO. Smadhi itself is overwhelmingly simple by comparison. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Neal McCorkle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is the website of Neil McCorkle, former Purusha. The BodyVed Program, > quite interesting! Read the "Making A Rishi ", his story of Awakening.. > > http://www.bodyved.com/index.asp > That was fun to read Rick! and quite accurate too! Thanks for posting it To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
The black cab incident allegedly happened somewhat later, late 70's I reckon, landed at Heathrow, hailed a cab and said the fare would be paid at the other end! But the point is, they did not know he was dropping in. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > on 8/1/06 8:33 AM, uns_tressor at uns_tressor@ wrote: > > > > >> > On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:14 AM, blissbunn1 wrote: > > >> > > > >>> > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the > > >>> > > dome these days ask the question about a foundation in > > >>> > > TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings > > >>> > > in participants lives > > > > > >> > whereupon Sal Sunshine sagely opined: > > >> > > > >> > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. > > >> >And seeing as how someone else just got thrown out > > >> >for that, how likely is it that they'd be open to the > > >> >rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing > > >> >to go.) > > >> > > > >> > Sal > > >> > > > > > > > And, of course, in practice, how? Maharishi is surrounded by > > > numerous annuluses of poor quality worker bees who provide an > > > impenetratable barrier, and keep him in "splendid isolation". > > > Uns. > > > > > He¹s calling in to the dome everyday, and > >people are asking him questions. As far as I know > >the questions aren¹t screened. Anyone with the guts > >to do so could ask him such a question. > > I have never heard a tape of Maharishi facing an edgy > question. It all seems cosy and stage managed. He doesn't > want feedback. Paul mentioned him turning up unexpectedly > (a few posts back). This will have been in the late fifties > or early sixties when teaching was expanding, and the world > situation was improving. M walls himself off, and now I am > told that the bottom has fallen out of teaching, weekend > courses, sidhi courses, SCI etc etc. We have become a grey > haired movement. (These comments apply to the UK - before > the 5/11 statement, but I expect that there are many parallels > to you folk in the States. > Uns. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: More Gibson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 8/1/06 12:50:58 P.M. Central > > Daylight Time, > > > > jstein@ writes: > > > > > > > > *If* he really wants to be a decent person and > > live > > > > up to his Christian ideals, his father's anti- > > > > Semitism must be a horrible conflict for him. He > > > > > > seems not to be able to cross his father; maybe > > > > > > he's afraid his father won't love him any more > > if > > > > he does. Not a good place to be in. > > > > > > > > He may believe in the biblical teaching that one > > doesn't betray > > or > > > > disrespect ones authority figures, no matter how > > wrong the may be > > > > because God gave them authority over you. > > > > > > On the other hand, he has said that his father has > > > "never lied to him." > > > > > > It's a good point, though, that he may actually > > have > > > a religious conflict, but I'd suggest that's in > > > addition to an emotional conflict about publicly > > > disagreeing with his father. > > > > > > As a public figure himself who made a > > controversial > > > movie about Jesus Christ, he can't just keep > > entirely > > > silent. He's going to be asked about it over and > > > over, and whatever he says is going to be given > > wide > > > publicity. So he really is between a rock and a > > hard > > > place. He can't publicly *agree OR disagree* with > > > his father. > > > > > > No wonder he drinks... > > > > Hmm. Now I'm wondering whether the idea of making > > the movie about Christ was part of this prompting I > > suggested he's getting from his psyche to get the > > conflict with his father out in the open and deal > > with it. > > > > That didn't work, so the next thing was for him to > > have a drunken meltdown in which he more or less > > channeled his father. > > > > Gibson was very good, by the way, in the movie > > "Hamlet," which he directed and starred in. > > "Hamlet" is very much about father conflicts. > > > > Does "Braveheart" have anything about fathers > > in it? I never saw it. > > > > I did see "Patriots" (and wished I hadn't--it was > > dreadful). Can't recall whether there was father > > stuff in that--he *plays* a father, but I'm not > > sure there was anything in it that resonated with > > the current situation. > > A psychoanalytic look at Mel's movies easily reveals > an unresolved Oedipal conflict. In most of his movies > he plays a charming, rebellious, under-valued, > adolescent-like character always bucking the > established authority and at time betrayed by it: > Brave Heart. In a sense Mel is still a boy because of > the narcissitic domination of his father, who from all > accounts, is a real bastard. A stiff, unloving father > who is in unconscious competition with his son can > never truly value and love his son and psychologically > support his transition into adulthood and becoming a > man. Mel has the classic Oedipal, love/hate > relationship with a narcissistic father that produces > a man-boy who is desparately seeking his father's > witheld approval and simultaneously raging against his > father's unacceptance of him. No wonder he > self-medicates with booze. Mel's a bit of a mess! > -Dr. Freud at the Movies Whatcha think of my idea about "Passion of the Christ" being an unsuccessful (subconscious) attempt to force that conflict with his father out in the open--via the anti-Semitism issue-- and the drunken episode being the real (if extremely messy) breakthrough in that regard? I mean, he can't *not* deal with it now. He managed to tiptoe around it with "Passion," but it looks to me like his psyche got so fed up it decided to arrange a head-on collision. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi v. Gibson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world" -- Mel > Gibson, 7-29-06 > > "Wherever there is destruction, it's the doing of America." -- > Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 7-17-02 > > Well, who's right...Maharishi or Mel? > > It's either the Jews or the Americans that are responsible for all the > wars in the world...can't be both! > Heh. Most people consider Israel a client state of the USA. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Diksha teacher ejected from the dome
--- Marek Reavis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The contradictions that have existed in the TMO for > a long time are > really dismaying. But, for what it's worth, they > don't seem to be > that much different than any other organized > endeavor of humans on > the planet. It's just that many or most of us > thought at some time > in our life that this was different. Apparently > not. Excellent post. All this inclusion/exclusion of the TMO is just the binding influence of a rajasic intellect over-shadowed by some very powerful samakaras. I wish all the TMO administrators would make that final discrimination from a bound mind dominated by the illusion of the "I" thought. To the Self-evident infinity of simple consciousness. They would all sh*t in their pants, mid-thought, as they are eaten alive by Brahman. > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Road Trip
I suspect no one got the 6 degrees of separation element of Art Bell and Barry? Bhairitu wrote: > >But no I see you are doing your usual Art Bell retirement imitation. I >know better, you'll be back. :) > > >TurquoiseB wrote: > > > >>Yesterday was a real wake-up call for me. >>I started the day with a great meditation >>that left me happy and fulfilled, and >>followed it up with laughing and joking >>with friends over coffee in the corner cafe. >>None of them meditate, but they rejoice in >>life, and consistently find ways to share their >>joy with others. There was not an ounce of >>fear or disharmony around the table. >> >>And then I went home and logged onto FFL, and >>it was like diving into a cesspool. I was >>plunged into the words of 30-year meditators >>who were advocating the use of nuclear weapons >>on millions of people whose only crime was to >>be born in a country and a culture the 30-year >>meditators are terrified of. I read the words >>of those who supported that stance for no other >>reason than because it gave them another way to >>slam someone on FFL they don't like. I saw again >>the TMO's 'selective focus' in reporting the >>'News,' and trying to take credit for those >>selective reports, while distancing themselves >> >> >>from the bigger stories they can't see because > > >>of the blinders they're wearing, and have been >>wearing for so long. I was reminded of the way >>that the TMO deals with those who don't believe >>what they're supposed to, and how some of these >>same 30-year meditators here see absolutely >>nothing wrong with that. >> >>Suffice it to say that it was a real bringdown. >>This morning the experience repeated itself. >>Within moments I was right back in the shit >>again, reacting and posting stuff just as >>lowvibe as the things I was reading. I've now >>deleted them. >> >>Enough already. >> >>My thanks to Rick for creating such a forum, >>where people can do what they are not allowed >>to do in the TMO -- express their doubts and >>their questions along with their fervent beliefs. >>At the same time, my apologies to Rick and >>everyone here for my part in turning it into >>a more contentious forum than it needed to be. >> >>My thanks also to Kirk, Vaj, Jim, Tom T., Sal, >>Dr. Pete, Rory, George, Paul, Michael, Shemp, >>cardemeister, and all of the others who have >>consistently demonstrated that one can survive >>the TMO with one's spiritual hopes intact, and >>with some sense of style. You have all posted >>many great comments and experiences for me to >>ponder, and I have. >> >>I have also pondered the things that others >>have said about my participation here, and have >>come to the conclusion that they were correct. >>I don't belong here; the nasty things that are >>said get to me and all too often goad me into >>participating in and perpetuating -- if not >>deepening -- the nastiness. Kirk was right in >>his decision to leave FFL, and for the right >>reasons. He found many of the discussions here, >>the way they are handled, and the mindset of >>the 'handlers' too heartbreaking for him to >>endure. He wisely moved on. I join him in that >>decision, and in the quest for people who more >>closely share my own sensibilities. >> >>Road Trip time. I'm taking August off from >>reading and posting to *all* of the Internet >>forums I have been participating in, not just >>FFL. With any luck I will not return to any of >>them. Thanks to all here for being one of the >>catalysts to make me realize that I need to >>hit the road. I wish you all well in your own >>travels, wherever they may lead you. >> >>Unc/Barry >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: More Gibson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > _DRUDGE REPORT FLASH 2006®_ > (http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3.htm) Is he > > "acting", out of fear for his career, or sincere? > > Who can say? He certainly has good reason to fear > for his career, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility > that he genuinely wants to be a decent human being. > > I was impressed by this: > > "I am in the process of understanding where those vicious words came > from during that drunken display." > > Actually, it doesn't seem like it would be very > difficult to understand where they came from; anybody > who has ever read anything about his father has a > really good idea where they came from. But maybe > Mel hasn't been able to confront that until now. > > So far, he's been unwilling to say anything against > his father's views. I'd think he has to get to the > point where he can *both* love his father *and* > vehemently disagree with him publicly before he can > really heal himself. Whether that will also heal > his career is another question. > Given his decision to produce the Passion of Christ, I won't take his contriteness as real until he expresses some degree of remorse about that. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 11,000,000 slaves
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Fidel Castro and his communist regime enslave 11,000,000 Cubans. > Castro may be on death's door. If he dies, the move towards freeing > the 11,000,000 may be underway. > > It's not nice to pray for someone's death but let's hope that the > Cuban people are freed ASAP! > If the situation in Cuba is as bad as you say, howcome we don't accept Cubans for political asylum unless they can make it PAST OUR blockade? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: More Gibson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/1/06 2:50:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > That didn't work, so the next thing was for him to > have a drunken meltdown in which he more or less > channeled his father. > > Gibson was very good, by the way, in the movie > "Hamlet," which he directed and starred in. > "Hamlet" is very much about father conflicts. > > Does "Braveheart" have anything about fathers > in it? I never saw it. > > I did see "Patriots" (and wished I hadn't--it was > dreadful). Can't recall whether there was father > stuff in that--he *plays* a father, but I'm not > sure there was anything in it that resonated with > the current situation. > > In Braveheart, Gibson avenges his fathers death. In The Patriot, He > is a father that avenges his son's death. H...vey interesting. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obsession: What The War on Terror Is Really About ( m...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/1/06 12:51:22 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Reasonable Person Test: > > someone points a gun at you and you shoot him. It turns out to be unloaded. > No problem. > > someone, in front of you, empties their gun, checks to make sure there is no > round in the > chamber, than points it at you and you shoot him. It turns out to be > unloaded. BIG > problem. > > > > And just what are the chances of scenario number two ever happening? > It's a radical example of the "reasonable person" clause. Here's a real life example: A guy I know very stupidly intervened when a crazy man was accosting people outside his appartment. He got his pistol and waved it in the guy's face and told him to back off, which the guy did. A few minutes later, my friend was sitting in his apparetment when someone started pounding on his door and screaming. It was the same guy, which he wisely didn't let in. The pounding grew more insistent, so my friend called 911. Meanwhile the guy is hitting the appartment security door hard enough to actually come THROUGH it and into the appartment. My friend, still on the phone, says "stop or I'll shoot. stop or I'll shoot. stop..." BANG. One shot, close range, in the heart. The police come and take thebody and gun away. The next day they bring the gun back. No hearing. "reasonable person," etc... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick, please send this info to the Fairfield Ledger
--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "authfriend" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > > "inthislifetime300" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sorry Judy, > > > > > > > > > > David signature was not on the previous > post. > > > It was at the bottom > > > > > of his website. > > > > > > > > OK. Anybody know whether deeksha is a > practice > > > > of a specific religion? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a practice of the followers of a specific > guru: > > > > > > > > > Deeksha is an energy transfer that facilitates > > > awakening to one's personal indwelling > > > Divine Presence. > > > > > > This is an actual Neuro-biological change. The > > > parietal lobes, located in the brain near the > > > top of the skull, are responsible for our > > > orientation in space. Without them we could not > > > get a spoon to our mouth or find our way through > a > > > doorway. Since Hans Selye's work in > > > the 30's, however, scientists agree that the > > > parietal lobes are overactive in most human > > > beings. The overactive nature of the parietal > lobes > > > causes us to feel existentially separate > > > and even opposed to our environment - not > supported, > > > not safe. The diksha energy calms > > > the activity of the parietal lobes, allowing us > to > > > experience our natural oneness with the > > > rest of creation. > > > > > > The frontal lobes of the brain are associated > with > > > the passion for life, enthusiasm, and love > > > of God. The deeksha activates the frontal lobes. > The > > > activation of the frontal lobes leads to > > > the experience of God realization, oneness with > God, > > > our own personal God. > > > > > > Diksha is being given to humanity at this time > in > > > its history to assist the world's > > > transformation to a higher level of > consciousness. > > > It is a gift of the Divine through the > > > intercession of Sri Bhagavan and Sri Padmavati > Devi > > > Amma. It is offered through their > > > followers, called deeksha givers, all over the > > > world. > > > > This is a profoundly gross simplification of brain > > functioning and is a fairy tale. Pseudo science at > its > > best! > > > > Contrast this with Fred's theory about samadhi: > > The thalamus is the gateway to about 90% of sensory > input into the brain (almost all > visual, auditory and tactile input goes straight > through the thalmus while taste and smell > bypasses it) and it acts as a switchboard sending > incoming sensory information from the > various senses to the relevant parts of the brain > for processing. Those parts of the brain > then send the processed information back to the > thalamus which routes them back > through the loop again, modifying the incoming raw > sensory input with the processed > input. > > When you sleep, the thalamus tends to shut down, but > the rest of the brain becomes less > alert. During samadhi (ala TM) the thalamus tends to > shut down, but the brain remains > alert, according to various fMRI and EEG studies. > The mind has "withdrawn its senses like a > turtoise withdraws its limbs into its shell" and > awareness is left awake to itself without > sensory input--even the "subtle" sensory input from > the feedback--to modify it. > > This is radically different than what is found > during other forms of meditation, even/ > especially when "bliss" is reported during them. > > It's the dfference between relative and absolute, > played out neurologically within the brain. > OR, the experience of this within the brain, leads > one to describe the world in these terms. > Either way, its radically different than the high > concentration Buddhist meditation findings > that Vaj likes to tout here. > > And the TM-Sidhis MERGE this neural behavior with > activity, as MMY says, or so the EEG > findings strongly suggest. At least Fred Travis is trying to ground his theorizing with up-to-date brain functioning theory and EEG studies. He also doesn't regress into metaphorical analogies that are closer to phrenology than neurology. > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:14 AM, blissbunn1 wrote: > > > > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the > > > dome these days ask the question about a foundation in > > > TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings > > > in participants lives > > > whereupon Sal Sunshine sagely opined: > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. > >And seeing as how someone else just got thrown out > >for that, how likely is it that they'd be open to the > >rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing > >to go.) > > > > Sal > > > > And, of course, in practice, how? Maharishi is surrounded by > numerous annuluses of poor quality worker bees who provide an > impenetratable barrier, and keep him "in splendid isolation". > Uns. > MMY is surrounded by the kind of people he wants to be surrounded by, for whatever reason (if there is one) that he chooses them to be there. You can't blame the failures of the TMO on anyone but him. Likewise, any successes of the TMO go back to his designs as well. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Gibson
--- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 8/1/06 12:50:58 P.M. Central > Daylight Time, > > > jstein@ writes: > > > > > > *If* he really wants to be a decent person and > live > > > up to his Christian ideals, his father's anti- > > > Semitism must be a horrible conflict for him. He > > > > seems not to be able to cross his father; maybe > > > > he's afraid his father won't love him any more > if > > > he does. Not a good place to be in. > > > > > > He may believe in the biblical teaching that one > doesn't betray > or > > > disrespect ones authority figures, no matter how > wrong the may be > > > because God gave them authority over you. > > > > On the other hand, he has said that his father has > > "never lied to him." > > > > It's a good point, though, that he may actually > have > > a religious conflict, but I'd suggest that's in > > addition to an emotional conflict about publicly > > disagreeing with his father. > > > > As a public figure himself who made a > controversial > > movie about Jesus Christ, he can't just keep > entirely > > silent. He's going to be asked about it over and > > over, and whatever he says is going to be given > wide > > publicity. So he really is between a rock and a > hard > > place. He can't publicly *agree OR disagree* with > > his father. > > > > No wonder he drinks... > > Hmm. Now I'm wondering whether the idea of making > the movie about Christ was part of this prompting I > suggested he's getting from his psyche to get the > conflict with his father out in the open and deal > with it. > > That didn't work, so the next thing was for him to > have a drunken meltdown in which he more or less > channeled his father. > > Gibson was very good, by the way, in the movie > "Hamlet," which he directed and starred in. > "Hamlet" is very much about father conflicts. > > Does "Braveheart" have anything about fathers > in it? I never saw it. > > I did see "Patriots" (and wished I hadn't--it was > dreadful). Can't recall whether there was father > stuff in that--he *plays* a father, but I'm not > sure there was anything in it that resonated with > the current situation. A psychoanalytic look at Mel's movies easily reveals an unresolved Oedipal conflict. In most of his movies he plays a charming, rebellious, under-valued, adolescent-like character always bucking the established authority and at time betrayed by it: Brave Heart. In a sense Mel is still a boy because of the narcissitic domination of his father, who from all accounts, is a real bastard. A stiff, unloving father who is in unconscious competition with his son can never truly value and love his son and psychologically support his transition into adulthood and becoming a man. Mel has the classic Oedipal, love/hate relationship with a narcissistic father that produces a man-boy who is desparately seeking his father's witheld approval and simultaneously raging against his father's unacceptance of him. No wonder he self-medicates with booze. Mel's a bit of a mess! -Dr. Freud at the Movies > > > > > > > > > > > > The Story of Noah being drunk and naked is > relevant > > > here. Hamm came in the cave and found Noah drunk > and naked and > went > > out blabbing > > > it to everyone where as the two other brothers > found their father > > in that > > > condition and covered him up and said nothing to > anyone about it. > > Noah was > > > their authority figure and while what he did was > wrong and > > despicable he wasn't > > > punished by God where as Hamm was for his > disrespect of his > father, > > and the > > > other brothers were blessed for taking care of > their father and > > remaining quiet. > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick, please send this info to the Fairfield Ledger
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > "inthislifetime300" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sorry Judy, > > > > > > > > David signature was not on the previous post. > > It was at the bottom > > > > of his website. > > > > > > OK. Anybody know whether deeksha is a practice > > > of a specific religion? > > > > > > > > > > It's a practice of the followers of a specific guru: > > > > > > Deeksha is an energy transfer that facilitates > > awakening to one's personal indwelling > > Divine Presence. > > > > This is an actual Neuro-biological change. The > > parietal lobes, located in the brain near the > > top of the skull, are responsible for our > > orientation in space. Without them we could not > > get a spoon to our mouth or find our way through a > > doorway. Since Hans Selye's work in > > the 30's, however, scientists agree that the > > parietal lobes are overactive in most human > > beings. The overactive nature of the parietal lobes > > causes us to feel existentially separate > > and even opposed to our environment - not supported, > > not safe. The diksha energy calms > > the activity of the parietal lobes, allowing us to > > experience our natural oneness with the > > rest of creation. > > > > The frontal lobes of the brain are associated with > > the passion for life, enthusiasm, and love > > of God. The deeksha activates the frontal lobes. The > > activation of the frontal lobes leads to > > the experience of God realization, oneness with God, > > our own personal God. > > > > Diksha is being given to humanity at this time in > > its history to assist the world's > > transformation to a higher level of consciousness. > > It is a gift of the Divine through the > > intercession of Sri Bhagavan and Sri Padmavati Devi > > Amma. It is offered through their > > followers, called deeksha givers, all over the > > world. > > This is a profoundly gross simplification of brain > functioning and is a fairy tale. Pseudo science at its > best! > Contrast this with Fred's theory about samadhi: The thalamus is the gateway to about 90% of sensory input into the brain (almost all visual, auditory and tactile input goes straight through the thalmus while taste and smell bypasses it) and it acts as a switchboard sending incoming sensory information from the various senses to the relevant parts of the brain for processing. Those parts of the brain then send the processed information back to the thalamus which routes them back through the loop again, modifying the incoming raw sensory input with the processed input. When you sleep, the thalamus tends to shut down, but the rest of the brain becomes less alert. During samadhi (ala TM) the thalamus tends to shut down, but the brain remains alert, according to various fMRI and EEG studies. The mind has "withdrawn its senses like a turtoise withdraws its limbs into its shell" and awareness is left awake to itself without sensory input--even the "subtle" sensory input from the feedback--to modify it. This is radically different than what is found during other forms of meditation, even/ especially when "bliss" is reported during them. It's the dfference between relative and absolute, played out neurologically within the brain. OR, the experience of this within the brain, leads one to describe the world in these terms. Either way, its radically different than the high concentration Buddhist meditation findings that Vaj likes to tout here. And the TM-Sidhis MERGE this neural behavior with activity, as MMY says, or so the EEG findings strongly suggest. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Neal McCorkle
Thanks Rick for sharing Neil's website. I've known Neil since the early Avon Park days, when Neil was in charge of the flower growing operation and did an amazing job. I re-connected with him a few years ago and he hasn't changed a bit. I encourage everyone to check out his site and read about his consciousness breakthroughs and his BodyVed program which I have been on for a year now and have seen amazing changes in my health and prosperity. It really works and he is very accessible via phone. Highly recommend getting a hold of Neil. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is the website of Neil McCorkle, former Purusha. The BodyVed Program, > quite interesting! Read the "Making A Rishi ", his story of Awakening.. > > http://www.bodyved.com/index.asp > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
I believe that. While I have never "been around him" in the sense that it was just a few people including myself in the room with him, the times I have seen him, mostly on the TOU course here and the first Holland course, a total of maybe a dozen times, he looked pretty removed and didn't say a word any of those times. Sal On Aug 1, 2006, at 4:16 PM, geezerfreak wrote: Do you really believe that MMY is unaware of what goes on around him? I notice that many here use that one as an excuse for whatever the weirdness of the day is. It's been a few years, but I've been around him. He knows and is in complete control.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Neal McCorkle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is the website of Neil McCorkle, former Purusha. The BodyVed Program, > quite interesting! Read the "Making A Rishi ", his story of Awakening.. > > http://www.bodyved.com/index.asp > Wow, this is great. I was just thinking about Neil (who's name I could not remember) the other day -- you know, "Whatever happended to what's- his-name?" I was an MIU student back in the 80s and was at the DC College of Natural Law when Purusha was there. We (students interning at various govt. agencies) worked a lot with the Purusha guys. Neil was one of the nicer, more down-to-earth Purushniks (as we called them). Glad to see that he is awakened and enjoying a good life. Good for him! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "blissbunn1" wrote: > > > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the dome these days ask the question > > about a foundation in TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings in > > participants lives. Ask MMY if he wants these avid broadminded seekers excluded from the > > courses or included to bring up the numbers. There are still 1,000+- siddhas in Fairfield > > not in the dome. > > > > > Actually, if you look at the brainwave patterns of TM and the TM- Sidhis compared to virtually > every other meditation technique out there, the differences are so startling and drastic that > anyone that choses to practice those other techniques obviously doesn't get the role that TM/ > TM-Sidhis are playing. AND, the detrimental effect those techniques are playing as well. > > Given the insensitivity of such people, its only politeness that brings the TMO to ban them > without any comment: they're stupid and counter-evolutionary, but the TMO doesn't say it. I'm not sure I understand what this whole controversy is about? >From my experience in the dome, years ago; It seemed that the group practice is really powerful; If you had the least bit of fatique, It seemed you would fall asleep... So, if you fell asleep, would you still be doing your program, While you were asleep?, of course not...would it effect anything in the dome?, of course not... If the group dome experience, is so powerful; I see no need of fear, that someone doing something slightly different; Is going to negatively effect anything? I think it's more of a political statement than anything... Like: "Do it our way, or hit the highway"... > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
But I would think the fact that they are even *in* the dome would indicate that someone wouldn't have the guts to ask even a mildly confrontational question...right? Because the minute they do...boom!...out on their ass. Sal On Aug 1, 2006, at 3:19 PM, Rick Archer wrote: on 8/1/06 8:33 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:14 AM, blissbunn1 wrote: > > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the > > dome these days ask the question about a foundation in > > TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings > > in participants lives > whereupon Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sagely opined: > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. >And seeing as how someone else just got thrown out >for that, how likely is it that they'd be open to the >rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing >to go.) > > Sal > And, of course, in practice, how? Maharishi is surrounded by numerous annuluses of poor quality worker bees who provide an impenetratable barrier, and keep him "in splendid isolation". Uns. He’s calling in to the dome everyday, and people are asking him questions. As far as I know, the questions aren’t screened. Anyone with the guts to do so could ask him such a question. __
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:14 AM, blissbunn1 wrote: > > > > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the > > > dome these days ask the question about a foundation in > > > TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings > > > in participants lives > > > whereupon Sal Sunshine sagely opined: > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. > >And seeing as how someone else just got thrown out > >for that, how likely is it that they'd be open to the > >rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing > >to go.) > > > > Sal > > > > And, of course, in practice, how? Maharishi is surrounded by > numerous annuluses of poor quality worker bees who provide an > impenetratable barrier, and keep him "in splendid isolation". > Uns. > Do you really beleive that MMY is unaware of what goes on around him? I notice that many here use that one as an excuse for whatever the weirdness of the day is. It's been a few years, but I've been around him. He knows and is in complete control. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Mel Gibson view
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I spoke to my psychology class about this. Mel's > behavior is a great example of what happens when > there's no ego, no superego and only id. This is not > how Mel "really" feels, it's just his id running the > show. All of us would have some very brutal things to > say if we were as sh*tfaced as Mel was. > Bullshit. I've been falling down drunk when I was a kid. My behavior was obnoxious because I wouldn't stop singing loudly while others were trying to sleep. No fights, no rotten things to say about others, and when others shushed me, I said sorry and continued singing. Drunkeness brings out *repressed* behavior. It does't bring out entirely new behaviors, unless you have a some physiological problem with processing alcohol. Gibson is just an angry drunk who expresses his repressed anger. His entire set of behaviors is merely a continuation of what he does already in his professional life. Or do you think that the Passion of Christ isn't anti-Semetic? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And seeing as how > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it that they'd > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing > to go.) > > Sal > And the subtext is: they neither need you or want you but are too polite to say. > > On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:14 AM, blissbunn1 wrote: > > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the dome these days > > ask the question > > about a foundation in TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom > > teachings in > > participants lives. Ask MMY if he wants these avid broadminded seekers > > excluded from the > > courses or included to bring up the numbers. There are still 1,000+- > > siddhas in Fairfield > > not in the dome. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "blissbunn1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the dome these days ask the > question > about a foundation in TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom > teachings in > participants lives. Ask MMY if he wants these avid broadminded seekers > excluded from the > courses or included to bring up the numbers. There are still 1,000+- siddhas > in Fairfield > not in the dome. > Actually, if you look at the brainwave patterns of TM and the TM-Sidhis compared to virtually every other meditation technique out there, the differences are so startling and drastic that anyone that choses to practice those other techniques obviously doesn't get the role that TM/ TM-Sidhis are playing. AND, the detrimental effect those techniques are playing as well. Given the insensitivity of such people, its only politeness that brings the TMO to ban them without any comment: they're stupid and counter-evolutionary, but the TMO doesn't say it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A little bit more About Gibson
I thought I heard earlier today that the Anti defamation League has accepted Gibson's apology. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Gibson
In a message dated 8/1/06 2:50:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That didn't work, so the next thing was for him tohave a drunken meltdown in which he more or lesschanneled his father.Gibson was very good, by the way, in the movie"Hamlet," which he directed and starred in. "Hamlet" is very much about father conflicts.Does "Braveheart" have anything about fathersin it? I never saw it.I did see "Patriots" (and wished I hadn't--it wasdreadful). Can't recall whether there was fatherstuff in that--he *plays* a father, but I'm notsure there was anything in it that resonated withthe current situation. In Braveheart, Gibson avenges his fathers death. In The Patriot, He is a father that avenges his son's death. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/1/06 8:33 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> > On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:14 AM, blissbunn1 wrote: > >> > > >>> > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the > >>> > > dome these days ask the question about a foundation in > >>> > > TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings > >>> > > in participants lives > > > >> > whereupon Sal Sunshine sagely opined: > >> > > >> > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. > >> >And seeing as how someone else just got thrown out > >> >for that, how likely is it that they'd be open to the > >> >rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing > >> >to go.) > >> > > >> > Sal > >> > > > > > And, of course, in practice, how? Maharishi is surrounded by > > numerous annuluses of poor quality worker bees who provide an > > impenetratable barrier, and keep him "in splendid isolation". > > Uns. > > > He¹s calling in to the dome everyday, and people are asking him questions. > As far as I know, the questions aren¹t screened. Anyone with the guts to do > so could ask him such a question. I didn't know Maharishi was calling the dome, everyday; That is certainly one-pointed of him, at his age... My limited experience in the presence of Maharishi; And a few interactions with him, during the seventies; And early eighties, doing some video with him; One thing I noticed, is that for him; It seems he can only put his attention on the positive; I would watch his eyes, and where he would look; And it would always seem he would look to find the joy; Or bliss, wherever it was in the room, on the terrace; wherever... Also, you feel the 'Unity Consciousness', radiating from him; So, what you speak to him, it's as if you feel like you are speaking to yourself- and it can be quite disconcerting, especially if your ego is very engaged. So, it is strange that he is surrounded by the types of people; Who he has around him, But, I guess, it's about money, and the discipline of one's with that kind of money, to devote themselves to him with an undieing love... > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Neal McCorkle
This is the website of Neil McCorkle, former Purusha. The BodyVed Program, quite interesting! Read the "Making A Rishi ", his story of Awakening.. http://www.bodyved.com/index.asp To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/1/06 8:33 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> > On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:14 AM, blissbunn1 wrote: > >> > > >>> > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the > >>> > > dome these days ask the question about a foundation in > >>> > > TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings > >>> > > in participants lives > > > >> > whereupon Sal Sunshine sagely opined: > >> > > >> > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. > >> >And seeing as how someone else just got thrown out > >> >for that, how likely is it that they'd be open to the > >> >rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing > >> >to go.) > >> > > >> > Sal > >> > > > > > And, of course, in practice, how? Maharishi is surrounded by > > numerous annuluses of poor quality worker bees who provide an > > impenetratable barrier, and keep him in "splendid isolation". > > Uns. > > > He¹s calling in to the dome everyday, and >people are asking him questions. As far as I know >the questions aren¹t screened. Anyone with the guts >to do so could ask him such a question. I have never heard a tape of Maharishi facing an edgy question. It all seems cosy and stage managed. He doesn't want feedback. Paul mentioned him turning up unexpectedly (a few posts back). This will have been in the late fifties or early sixties when teaching was expanding, and the world situation was improving. M walls himself off, and now I am told that the bottom has fallen out of teaching, weekend courses, sidhi courses, SCI etc etc. We have become a grey haired movement. (These comments apply to the UK - before the 5/11 statement, but I expect that there are many parallels to you folk in the States. Uns. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY on 8/1/06 8:57 AM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you saying MMY ought to get out more? I once heard a tale of him turning up unexpectedly in a black cab at one of the movement properties in the middle of the English countryside, apparently it really threw everyone. One time he was traveling with Vesey in the UK and he showed up unexpectedly at Mrs. Gill’s, an old founder of the movement. He had Vesey hide in the bushes so it was just MMY on the doorstep. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY on 8/1/06 8:33 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:14 AM, blissbunn1 wrote: > > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the > > dome these days ask the question about a foundation in > > TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings > > in participants lives > whereupon Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sagely opined: > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. >And seeing as how someone else just got thrown out >for that, how likely is it that they'd be open to the >rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing >to go.) > > Sal > And, of course, in practice, how? Maharishi is surrounded by numerous annuluses of poor quality worker bees who provide an impenetratable barrier, and keep him "in splendid isolation". Uns. He’s calling in to the dome everyday, and people are asking him questions. As far as I know, the questions aren’t screened. Anyone with the guts to do so could ask him such a question. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick, please send this info to the Fairfield Ledger
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick, please send this info to the Fairfield Ledger on 8/1/06 1:02 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How and why would students be at MIU and NOT be meditators? I'm confused... Many foreign students come just to get into the US. They don’t learn TM till they get here, and many don’t feel much motivation to practice it. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: More Gibson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 8/1/06 12:50:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > jstein@ writes: > > > > *If* he really wants to be a decent person and live > > up to his Christian ideals, his father's anti- > > Semitism must be a horrible conflict for him. He > > seems not to be able to cross his father; maybe > > he's afraid his father won't love him any more if > > he does. Not a good place to be in. > > > > He may believe in the biblical teaching that one doesn't betray or > > disrespect ones authority figures, no matter how wrong the may be > > because God gave them authority over you. > > On the other hand, he has said that his father has > "never lied to him." > > It's a good point, though, that he may actually have > a religious conflict, but I'd suggest that's in > addition to an emotional conflict about publicly > disagreeing with his father. > > As a public figure himself who made a controversial > movie about Jesus Christ, he can't just keep entirely > silent. He's going to be asked about it over and > over, and whatever he says is going to be given wide > publicity. So he really is between a rock and a hard > place. He can't publicly *agree OR disagree* with > his father. > > No wonder he drinks... Hmm. Now I'm wondering whether the idea of making the movie about Christ was part of this prompting I suggested he's getting from his psyche to get the conflict with his father out in the open and deal with it. That didn't work, so the next thing was for him to have a drunken meltdown in which he more or less channeled his father. Gibson was very good, by the way, in the movie "Hamlet," which he directed and starred in. "Hamlet" is very much about father conflicts. Does "Braveheart" have anything about fathers in it? I never saw it. I did see "Patriots" (and wished I hadn't--it was dreadful). Can't recall whether there was father stuff in that--he *plays* a father, but I'm not sure there was anything in it that resonated with the current situation. > > > > The Story of Noah being drunk and naked is relevant > > here. Hamm came in the cave and found Noah drunk and naked and went > out blabbing > > it to everyone where as the two other brothers found their father > in that > > condition and covered him up and said nothing to anyone about it. > Noah was > > their authority figure and while what he did was wrong and > despicable he wasn't > > punished by God where as Hamm was for his disrespect of his father, > and the > > other brothers were blessed for taking care of their father and > remaining quiet. > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick, please send this info to the Fairfield Ledger
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick, please send this info to the Fairfield Ledger on 8/1/06 12:58 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can't figure out why everybody (everybody?) is > getting their panties in a bunch over this. If the TMO > thinks that someone is not doing the official TM > program in the dome they don't want them to be there. > Is that what people are freaking over or am I missing > something? You're missing something. This particular individual practises TM and the TM-Sidhi program regularly and would be doing said program in the Domes if he were allowed in. It was an outside personally-chosen "religious" activity that he was engaged in that caused him to be ejected. Same with me. Now I’ve moved on to other things, but when they booted me, a few days after 9/11, I was doing the TM-TMS program as taught. No regrets though. As Steve K. said, there’s life after the TMO. Sometimes getting the boot is the best thing that can happen to a person. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: 11,000,000 slaves
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > shempmcgurk wrote: > >Like I've said before, Maharishi would be well advised to stay away > >from saying things about politics, economics and other fields he has > >no clue about. > > > Maybe we should say the same for Shemp? LOL!! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Kaplan's brother a bookie?
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Kaplan's brother a bookie? on 7/31/06 11:06 PM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Archer reported here that David/Earl Kaplan's brother, Gary was the founder of BetOnSports, but it says here that he used to be a NY bookie -- doesn't really seem like the Kaplan family career path: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2006-07-31-betonsports-pleas_x.htm I don’t know him personally and can’t shed light on it. I received the info from a fellow in St. Louis, the Kaplan’s home town. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] 11,000,000 slaves
In a message dated 8/1/06 12:16:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fidel Castro and his communist regime enslave 11,000,000 Cubans. Castro may be on death's door. If he dies, the move towards freeing the 11,000,000 may be underway.It's not nice to pray for someone's death but let's hope that the Cuban people are freed ASAP! One thing I keep finding amusing about this story in the news is that, reporters keep saying "Castro has temporarily handed over his Presidential Powers to his brother Raul". He isn't a President! He's a freaking dictator! __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: More Gibson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/1/06 12:50:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > *If* he really wants to be a decent person and live > up to his Christian ideals, his father's anti- > Semitism must be a horrible conflict for him. He > seems not to be able to cross his father; maybe > he's afraid his father won't love him any more if > he does. Not a good place to be in. > > He may believe in the biblical teaching that one doesn't betray or > disrespect ones authority figures, no matter how wrong the may be > because God gave them authority over you. On the other hand, he has said that his father has "never lied to him." It's a good point, though, that he may actually have a religious conflict, but I'd suggest that's in addition to an emotional conflict about publicly disagreeing with his father. As a public figure himself who made a controversial movie about Jesus Christ, he can't just keep entirely silent. He's going to be asked about it over and over, and whatever he says is going to be given wide publicity. So he really is between a rock and a hard place. He can't publicly *agree OR disagree* with his father. No wonder he drinks... The Story of Noah being drunk and naked is relevant > here. Hamm came in the cave and found Noah drunk and naked and went out blabbing > it to everyone where as the two other brothers found their father in that > condition and covered him up and said nothing to anyone about it. Noah was > their authority figure and while what he did was wrong and despicable he wasn't > punished by God where as Hamm was for his disrespect of his father, and the > other brothers were blessed for taking care of their father and remaining quiet. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 11,000,000 slaves
In a message dated 8/1/06 2:08:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, dunno how old or new the episode of Oprah airedhere a couple of days back was, but the condition ofsome inner city(?) schools in the US of A appeared so appallingI don't think there are any schools in Cuba in sucha bad shape! :/ I saw that yesterday. I was amazed at how my old high school resembled the inner city school. Mine was in better condition but it was crowded and I think built in the fifites. Yet my high school, Bellaire Sr High, had one of the best graduation records and percentages of people that went on to universities in the country. I sure wish we had air conditioning in public schools in those day! __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 11,000,000 slaves
nablus108 wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > >>Fidel Castro and his communist regime enslave 11,000,000 Cubans. >>Castro may be on death's door. If he dies, the move towards freeing >>the 11,000,000 may be underway. >> >> > >Freedom american style I presume... Where is the freedom for the poor >and the blacks in that country ? Dream on shemp; USA is loosing it's >grip on the worlds population who are increasingly seeing that your so- >called "freedom" is just slavery to a cruel capitalism. Which will >have to go. > >"Communism is the most advanced and intelligent political system." >Maharishi, Germany 1982 > >"Communism is gone, the next to go is capitalism." Maharishi (1989 ?) > There were a couple of cool movies out of Cuba in 1990's that kind of demonstrated how life was in Cuba. They tend to suffer from a bad implementation of socialism and the movies showed how much of a joke it was. The real solution is to allow a balance of both capitalism and socialism so that you can appeal to both mindsets but limit the ability to have controlling power. Therefore no stinkin' billionaires nor large corporations nor socialist tyrants ala Stalin, Mao, etc. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 11,000,000 slaves
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > Fidel Castro and his communist regime enslave 11,000,000 > Cubans. > > > Castro may be on death's door. If he dies, the move towards > freeing > > > the 11,000,000 may be underway. > > > > Freedom american style I presume... Where is the freedom for the > poor > > and the blacks in that country ? Dream on shemp; USA is loosing > it's > > grip on the worlds population who are increasingly seeing that > your so- > > called "freedom" is just slavery to a cruel capitalism. Which will > > have to go. > > > > "Communism is the most advanced and intelligent political system." > > Maharishi, Germany 1982 > > > > "Communism is gone, the next to go is capitalism." Maharishi > (1989 ?) > > > > > Like I've said before, Maharishi would be well advised to stay away > from saying things about politics, economics and other fields he has > no clue about. And your level of consciousness is obviously much higher than that of Maharishi To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 11,000,000 slaves
In a message dated 8/1/06 2:08:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, dunno how old or new the episode of Oprah airedhere a couple of days back was, but the condition ofsome inner city(?) schools in the US of A appeared so appallingI don't think there are any schools in Cuba in sucha bad shape! :/ __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 11,000,000 slaves
shempmcgurk wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > >>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" >>wrote: >> >> >>>Fidel Castro and his communist regime enslave 11,000,000 >>> >>> >Cubans. > > >>>Castro may be on death's door. If he dies, the move towards >>> >>> >freeing > > >>>the 11,000,000 may be underway. >>> >>> >>Freedom american style I presume... Where is the freedom for the >> >> >poor > > >>and the blacks in that country ? Dream on shemp; USA is loosing >> >> >it's > > >>grip on the worlds population who are increasingly seeing that >> >> >your so- > > >>called "freedom" is just slavery to a cruel capitalism. Which will >>have to go. >> >>"Communism is the most advanced and intelligent political system." >>Maharishi, Germany 1982 >> >>"Communism is gone, the next to go is capitalism." Maharishi >> >> >(1989 ?) > > > > >Like I've said before, Maharishi would be well advised to stay away >from saying things about politics, economics and other fields he has >no clue about. > Maybe we should say the same for Shemp? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Gibson
In a message dated 8/1/06 12:50:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *If* he really wants to be a decent person and liveup to his Christian ideals, his father's anti-Semitism must be a horrible conflict for him. He seems not to be able to cross his father; maybe he's afraid his father won't love him any more ifhe does. Not a good place to be in. He may believe in the biblical teaching that one doesn't betray or disrespect ones authority figures, no matter how wrong the may be because God gave them authority over you. The Story of Noah being drunk and naked is relevant here. Hamm came in the cave and found Noah drunk and naked and went out blabbing it to everyone where as the two other brothers found their father in that condition and covered him up and said nothing to anyone about it. Noah was their authority figure and while what he did was wrong and despicable he wasn't punished by God where as Hamm was for his disrespect of his father, and the other brothers were blessed for taking care of their father and remaining quiet. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: 11,000,000 slaves
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > Fidel Castro and his communist regime enslave 11,000,000 Cubans. > > Castro may be on death's door. If he dies, the move towards freeing > > the 11,000,000 may be underway. > > > > It's not nice to pray for someone's death but let's hope that the > > Cuban people are freed ASAP! > > > > Well, dunno how old or new the episode of Oprah aired > here a couple of days back was, but the condition of > some inner city(?) schools in the US of A appeared so appalling > I don't think there are any schools in Cuba in such > a bad shape! :/ > Oh, seems like the report was "rather" new: http://www2.oprah.com/index.jhtml To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Diksha teacher ejected from the dome
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > **SNIP** > On the above [SNIPPED] point, I don't think it's a matter of the TMO telling > them that they can't do the non-TM activities on the course but, > rather, because of a religious activity performed by this individual > during NON-Dome practise he is being told he can't attend the Dome. > > It was this discrimination based solely upon this individual's > personal religious practises that I earlier suggested was a > violation of federal equality laws (this individual adheres to, > practises and is regular in both TM and TM Sidhis and only does > those practises as per the instructions while in the Dome). > **END** Yes, but the exclusion of people from TMO courses is still legally valid because the TMO makes the rules, or sets the conditions, which determine whether or not a person is accepted to the course or is allowed to participate. There's no actual discrimination based on religion (I would argue) because likely neither the TMO or the individual who's practicing diksha would define any of the activities as religious. And even if they did, it's still okay for a religion to define what constitutes acceptable religious behavior and to exclude behavior that doesn't comport with their belief or dogma. I'd expect that the TMO would make the argument that the technology of world peace or the Maharishi Effect would somehow or another be compromised by the outside-the-dome activities of the person regardless of their adherence with other authorized TMO practices while in the dome. The sad thing, as Robert G. points out in #107744, is "Why would an organization, which is trying to create unity, and harmony, Take an action like this, that creates seperateness, and disharmony; . . .." The contradictions that have existed in the TMO for a long time are really dismaying. But, for what it's worth, they don't seem to be that much different than any other organized endeavor of humans on the planet. It's just that many or most of us thought at some time in our life that this was different. Apparently not. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 11,000,000 slaves
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Fidel Castro and his communist regime enslave 11,000,000 Cubans. > Castro may be on death's door. If he dies, the move towards freeing > the 11,000,000 may be underway. > > It's not nice to pray for someone's death but let's hope that the > Cuban people are freed ASAP! > Well, dunno how old or new the episode of Oprah aired here a couple of days back was, but the condition of some inner city(?) schools in the US of A appeared so appalling I don't think there are any schools in Cuba in such a bad shape! :/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
Either that or focused on his own health problems. Sal On Aug 1, 2006, at 1:09 PM, jyouells2000 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I doubt he really cares much one way or another, and seeing as how most here wouldn't go in any case, it's pretty much of a moot point, which was what I was trying to say. Sal I just don't think he would be candid in a public forum. So focused on the 'big' picture that there are no new meditators or new siddha's (to speak of) anymore.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 11,000,000 slaves
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > Fidel Castro and his communist regime enslave 11,000,000 > Cubans. > > > Castro may be on death's door. If he dies, the move towards > freeing > > > the 11,000,000 may be underway. > > > > Freedom american style I presume... Where is the freedom for the > poor > > and the blacks in that country ? Dream on shemp; USA is loosing > it's > > grip on the worlds population who are increasingly seeing that > your so- > > called "freedom" is just slavery to a cruel capitalism. Which will > > have to go. > > > > "Communism is the most advanced and intelligent political system." > > Maharishi, Germany 1982 > > > > "Communism is gone, the next to go is capitalism." Maharishi > (1989 ?) > > > > > Like I've said before, Maharishi would be well advised to stay away > from saying things about politics, economics and other fields he has > no clue about. I read somewhere that Fidel Castro is a very wealthy man - and so is MMY - .So it seems that it is not much difference between a communist or a capitalist when it comes to money. Ingegerd > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 11,000,000 slaves
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > Fidel Castro and his communist regime enslave 11,000,000 Cubans. > > Castro may be on death's door. If he dies, the move towards freeing > > the 11,000,000 may be underway. > > Freedom american style I presume... Where is the freedom for the poor > and the blacks in that country ? Dream on shemp; USA is loosing it's > grip on the worlds population who are increasingly seeing that your so- > called "freedom" is just slavery to a cruel capitalism. Which will > have to go. > > "Communism is the most advanced and intelligent political system." > Maharishi, Germany 1982 > > "Communism is gone, the next to go is capitalism." Maharishi (1989 ?) > Like I've said before, Maharishi would be well advised to stay away from saying things about politics, economics and other fields he has no clue about. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: More Gibson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > > _DRUDGE REPORT FLASH 2006®_ > > > (http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3.htm) Is he > > > > "acting", out of fear for his career, or sincere? > > > > > > Who can say? He certainly has good reason to fear > > > for his career, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility > > > that he genuinely wants to be a decent human being. > > > > > > I was impressed by this: > > > > > > "I am in the process of understanding where those vicious words > > came > > > from during that drunken display." > > > > > > Actually, it doesn't seem like it would be very > > > difficult to understand where they came from; anybody > > > who has ever read anything about his father has a > > > really good idea where they came from. But maybe > > > Mel hasn't been able to confront that until now. > > > > > > So far, he's been unwilling to say anything against > > > his father's views. I'd think he has to get to the > > > point where he can *both* love his father *and* > > > vehemently disagree with him publicly before he can > > > really heal himself. Whether that will also heal > > > his career is another question. > > > > Richard Donner, a Jew, made five blockbusters with Gibson. I would > > be curious to know what his reactions to all this is. > > > > If Gibson is the virulent anti-semite he appears to be, it must > > have been difficult for him to work all those thousands of hours > > with Jews. Similarly, it would have been excruciating for the Jews. > > FWIW, I don't recall hearing any stories about > him showing overt anti-Semitism. "The Passion of > the Christ" did raise some questions, but he was > always vehement about not being anti-Semitic. > > So if he is anti-Semitic when he's sober, it > would appear he hides it pretty well. > > > Hopefully, Gibson, in his heart, isn't the ant-semite his words > > portray him to be and he will heal. > > I really do think Peter and the site you quoted > from have it right: his conscious, thinking, > reasoning self isn't anti-Semitic, but underneath > that there's a part of him that is, and it comes > out, or came out this time, when he's drunk and > it's not fully under his control. > > > But he did the right thing with this most recent press release. > > Total and apparently unconditional apology, remorse and a reaching > > out for help to the very community he insulted. > > But because he's such a public person, and his career > depends on others' approval, there's always going to > be a question, as MDixon suggested, about whether he > is truly repentant or just afraid he's going to become > a pariah if he doesn't *appear* to be repentant. > > *If* he really wants to be a decent person and live > up to his Christian ideals, his father's anti- > Semitism must be a horrible conflict for him. He > seems not to be able to cross his father; maybe > he's afraid his father won't love him any more if > he does. Not a good place to be in. > > Here's my amateur psychoanalysis: What came out > when he was drunk is his anger at himself for not > being able to say publicly that his father is wrong. > It's anger at his father as well for putting him in > that bind, and anger at himself for being angry with > his father--all very convoluted and intractable. > > So his psyche simply made him come out with the > anti-Semitic tirade in order to get it all out in > the open where he'd be forced to deal with it once > and for all. > I think there's alot to what you say above...PLUS, here is someone who works with Jews on a daily basis because the entertainment industry does have a disproportionate high percentage of Jews -- and he has, with great success, for many years. Many of his close associates and people he loves must be Jewish, so to throw all of that into the mix must add to his inner turmoil. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I doubt he really cares much one way or another, and seeing as how most > here wouldn't go in any case, it's pretty much of a moot point, which > was what I was trying to say. > > Sal I just don't think he would be candid in a public forum. So focused on the 'big' picture that there are no new meditators or new siddha's (to speak of) anymore. JohnY > > On Aug 1, 2006, at 10:29 AM, jyouells2000 wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > wrote: > >> > >> But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And seeing as how > >> someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it that > >> they'd > >> be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing > >> to go.) > >> > >> Sal > >> > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? Why even > > bother to ask? > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 11,000,000 slaves
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Fidel Castro and his communist regime enslave 11,000,000 Cubans. > Castro may be on death's door. If he dies, the move towards freeing > the 11,000,000 may be underway. Freedom american style I presume... Where is the freedom for the poor and the blacks in that country ? Dream on shemp; USA is loosing it's grip on the worlds population who are increasingly seeing that your so- called "freedom" is just slavery to a cruel capitalism. Which will have to go. "Communism is the most advanced and intelligent political system." Maharishi, Germany 1982 "Communism is gone, the next to go is capitalism." Maharishi (1989 ?) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: More Gibson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > _DRUDGE REPORT FLASH 2006®_ > > (http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3.htm) Is he > > > "acting", out of fear for his career, or sincere? > > > > Who can say? He certainly has good reason to fear > > for his career, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility > > that he genuinely wants to be a decent human being. > > > > I was impressed by this: > > > > "I am in the process of understanding where those vicious words > came > > from during that drunken display." > > > > Actually, it doesn't seem like it would be very > > difficult to understand where they came from; anybody > > who has ever read anything about his father has a > > really good idea where they came from. But maybe > > Mel hasn't been able to confront that until now. > > > > So far, he's been unwilling to say anything against > > his father's views. I'd think he has to get to the > > point where he can *both* love his father *and* > > vehemently disagree with him publicly before he can > > really heal himself. Whether that will also heal > > his career is another question. > > Richard Donner, a Jew, made five blockbusters with Gibson. I would > be curious to know what his reactions to all this is. > > If Gibson is the virulent anti-semite he appears to be, it must > have been difficult for him to work all those thousands of hours > with Jews. Similarly, it would have been excruciating for the Jews. FWIW, I don't recall hearing any stories about him showing overt anti-Semitism. "The Passion of the Christ" did raise some questions, but he was always vehement about not being anti-Semitic. So if he is anti-Semitic when he's sober, it would appear he hides it pretty well. > Hopefully, Gibson, in his heart, isn't the ant-semite his words > portray him to be and he will heal. I really do think Peter and the site you quoted from have it right: his conscious, thinking, reasoning self isn't anti-Semitic, but underneath that there's a part of him that is, and it comes out, or came out this time, when he's drunk and it's not fully under his control. > But he did the right thing with this most recent press release. > Total and apparently unconditional apology, remorse and a reaching > out for help to the very community he insulted. But because he's such a public person, and his career depends on others' approval, there's always going to be a question, as MDixon suggested, about whether he is truly repentant or just afraid he's going to become a pariah if he doesn't *appear* to be repentant. *If* he really wants to be a decent person and live up to his Christian ideals, his father's anti- Semitism must be a horrible conflict for him. He seems not to be able to cross his father; maybe he's afraid his father won't love him any more if he does. Not a good place to be in. Here's my amateur psychoanalysis: What came out when he was drunk is his anger at himself for not being able to say publicly that his father is wrong. It's anger at his father as well for putting him in that bind, and anger at himself for being angry with his father--all very convoluted and intractable. So his psyche simply made him come out with the anti-Semitic tirade in order to get it all out in the open where he'd be forced to deal with it once and for all. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Gibson
In a message dated 8/1/06 12:21:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > _DRUDGE REPORT FLASH 2006®_ > (http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3.htm) Is he > > "acting", out of fear for his career, or sincere?> > Who can say? He certainly has good reason to fear> for his career, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility> that he genuinely wants to be a decent human being.> > I was impressed by this:> > "I am in the process of understanding where those vicious words came > from during that drunken display."> > Actually, it doesn't seem like it would be very> difficult to understand where they came from; anybody> who has ever read anything about his father has a> really good idea where they came from. But maybe> Mel hasn't been able to confront that until now.> > So far, he's been unwilling to say anything against> his father's views. I'd think he has to get to the> point where he can *both* love his father *and*> vehemently disagree with him publicly before he can> really heal himself. Whether that will also heal> his career is another question.>Richard Donner, a Jew, made five blockbusters with Gibson. I would be curious to know what his reactions to all this is.If Gibson is the virulent anti-semite he appears to be, it must have been difficult for him to work all those thousands of hours with Jews. Similarly, it would have been excruciating for the Jews.Hopefully, Gibson, in his heart, isn't the ant-semite his words portray him to be and he will heal.But he did the right thing with this most recent press release. Total and apparently unconditional apology, remorse and a reaching out for help to the very community he insulted. I have to pretty much agree with both of you here. I think his father poisoned his mind as a child with all this anti-Semitism and he did a complete 180 degree change but those latent impressions popped up in a time of weakness. I have no reason not to believe his apology is sincere. I also believe any grief he receives over this is also well deserved and will have awakening effect on him. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obsession: What The War on Terror Is Really About ( m...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/1/06 12:51:22 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Reasonable Person Test: > > someone points a gun at you and you shoot him. It turns out to be unloaded. > No problem. > > someone, in front of you, empties their gun, checks to make sure there is no > round in the > chamber, than points it at you and you shoot him. It turns out to be > unloaded. BIG > problem. > > And just what are the chances of scenario number two ever > happening? I think the point is that if you have no good reason to think the gun isn't loaded, and you shoot the guy and then find out it was not, in fact, loaded, you wouldn't be liable for his death. Remember the original question was whether, if someone threatened me with a gun, and I had a gun as well, I'd shoot first. I said I would only if I were pretty sure he wasn't bluffing. This was with reference to Iran. The question about the gun being loaded was an afterthought (obviously if the gun weren't loaded, he'd be bluffing, but he could also be bluffing with a loaded gun). (Isn't this the kind of question game theory deals with?) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: More Gibson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > _DRUDGE REPORT FLASH 2006®_ > (http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3.htm) Is he > > "acting", out of fear for his career, or sincere? > > Who can say? He certainly has good reason to fear > for his career, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility > that he genuinely wants to be a decent human being. > > I was impressed by this: > > "I am in the process of understanding where those vicious words came > from during that drunken display." > > Actually, it doesn't seem like it would be very > difficult to understand where they came from; anybody > who has ever read anything about his father has a > really good idea where they came from. But maybe > Mel hasn't been able to confront that until now. > > So far, he's been unwilling to say anything against > his father's views. I'd think he has to get to the > point where he can *both* love his father *and* > vehemently disagree with him publicly before he can > really heal himself. Whether that will also heal > his career is another question. > Richard Donner, a Jew, made five blockbusters with Gibson. I would be curious to know what his reactions to all this is. If Gibson is the virulent anti-semite he appears to be, it must have been difficult for him to work all those thousands of hours with Jews. Similarly, it would have been excruciating for the Jews. Hopefully, Gibson, in his heart, isn't the ant-semite his words portray him to be and he will heal. But he did the right thing with this most recent press release. Total and apparently unconditional apology, remorse and a reaching out for help to the very community he insulted. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 11,000,000 slaves
Fidel Castro and his communist regime enslave 11,000,000 Cubans. Castro may be on death's door. If he dies, the move towards freeing the 11,000,000 may be underway. It's not nice to pray for someone's death but let's hope that the Cuban people are freed ASAP! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: More Gibson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > _DRUDGE REPORT FLASH 2006®_ (http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3.htm) Is he > "acting", out of fear for his career, or sincere? Who can say? He certainly has good reason to fear for his career, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility that he genuinely wants to be a decent human being. I was impressed by this: "I am in the process of understanding where those vicious words came from during that drunken display." Actually, it doesn't seem like it would be very difficult to understand where they came from; anybody who has ever read anything about his father has a really good idea where they came from. But maybe Mel hasn't been able to confront that until now. So far, he's been unwilling to say anything against his father's views. I'd think he has to get to the point where he can *both* love his father *and* vehemently disagree with him publicly before he can really heal himself. Whether that will also heal his career is another question. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
I doubt he really cares much one way or another, and seeing as how most here wouldn't go in any case, it's pretty much of a moot point, which was what I was trying to say. Sal On Aug 1, 2006, at 10:29 AM, jyouells2000 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And seeing as how someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it that they'd be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing to go.) Sal How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? Why even bother to ask?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi v. Gibson
In a message dated 8/1/06 10:54:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world" -- Mel Gibson, 7-29-06"Wherever there is destruction, it's the doing of America." -- Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 7-17-02Well, who's right...Maharishi or Mel?It's either the Jews or the Americans that are responsible for all the wars in the world...can't be both! Oy vey! __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] More Gibson
DRUDGE REPORT FLASH 2006® Is he "acting", out of fear for his career, or sincere? __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi v. Gibson
"The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world" -- Mel Gibson, 7-29-06 "Wherever there is destruction, it's the doing of America." -- Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 7-17-02 Well, who's right...Maharishi or Mel? It's either the Jews or the Americans that are responsible for all the wars in the world...can't be both! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > wrote: > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And seeing as how > > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it that they'd > > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing > > to go.) > > > > Sal > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? Why even > bother to ask? Seeing that the future of the world depends upon it, one would think and hope that he would be open to considering scenarios in which the numbers flying could double over-night. > > JohnY > > > > > > > On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:14 AM, blissbunn1 wrote: > > > > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the dome these days > > > ask the question > > > about a foundation in TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom > > > teachings in > > > participants lives. Ask MMY if he wants these avid broadminded > seekers > > > excluded from the > > > courses or included to bring up the numbers. There are still 1,000+- > > > siddhas in Fairfield > > > not in the dome. > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And seeing as how > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it that they'd > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing > to go.) > > Sal > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? Why even bother to ask? JohnY > > On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:14 AM, blissbunn1 wrote: > > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the dome these days > > ask the question > > about a foundation in TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom > > teachings in > > participants lives. Ask MMY if he wants these avid broadminded seekers > > excluded from the > > courses or included to bring up the numbers. There are still 1,000+- > > siddhas in Fairfield > > not in the dome. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obsession: What The War on Terror Is Really About ( m...
In a message dated 8/1/06 12:51:22 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Reasonable Person Test:someone points a gun at you and you shoot him. It turns out to be unloaded. No problem.someone, in front of you, empties their gun, checks to make sure there is no round in the chamber, than points it at you and you shoot him. It turns out to be unloaded. BIG problem. And just what are the chances of scenario number two ever happening? __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ken Wilber severely injured
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.kenwilber.com/blog/show/110 Vaj, Check out this site as I believe it will help Ken recover more rapidly: http://tinyurl.com/me9fh Best, Jeff To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Mel Gibson view
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I spoke to my psychology class about this. Mel's > behavior is a great example of what happens when > there's no ego, no superego and only id. This is not > how Mel "really" feels, it's just his id running the > show. All of us would have some very brutal things to > say if we were as sh*tfaced as Mel was. Could you give us a rough idea how your class felt: first, how many in the class, how many sympathized, how many outraged, etc. > > --- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I found this view of the Gibson affair -- quite > > different from the > > Hitchens one -- that also makes a very good point. > > > > > > This is an excerpt of the full piece found at > > birdofparadise.blog > > > > Don't Forget that Mel Gibson Was Drunk > > Mel Gibson was arrested for drunk driving the other > > day. The police > > who arrested him described his uncooperative > > behavior, his repeated > > use of the "f**k" word and his making several > > clearly anti-Semitic > > statements. > > > > Apparently, this somehow "proves" that Mel Gibson is > > an anti-Semite. > > > > No it doesn't. All it proves is that Mel Gibson was > > drunk. > > > > If (let's imagine) that Mel Gibson's outburst is > > proof of his anti- > > semitism then the circumstances of his arrest would > > also prove > > that . . . > > > > --Mel Gibson is an advocate of expressing anger in > > public places; > > that > > --Mel Gibson believes that it is good and right to > > resist arrest; > > that > > --Mel Gibson feels that it is OK to drive while > > intoxicated; that > > --Mel Gibson, deep, deep down, approves of resisting > > police officer. > > > > No one in their right mind would draw these > > conclusions about Mel > > Gibson from his behavior and actions the night of > > his arrest. > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Road Trip
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In
> FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
> wrote:
> >
> > heshiepothead writes: (snipped)commenting on Judy
> > It's a stream of constant criticism and rebuttals and invalidating
> > comments and you seem to have a need to always be right.
> >
> > Tom T:
> > Judy would rather be right than be loved. You can't have it both ways.
> > Choose one or the other.
>
> I'm not sure they're mutually exclusive, but I
> certainly wouldn't want to be loved for not
> speaking up for what I believe is right.
When Wholeness gets caught up in its masquerade of a fractured reality
of pieces, it can't hold on to opposite values-- or even simply
"different values. ("Being loved" and "being right" are not opposites.)
Love, Truth -- are Sat, Ananda -- Wholenesses "overflowing" from the
Wholeness of Existence -- Sat. Sat Chit Ananda. One Wholness. Three
"apparent" Wholenesses overflowing within and beyond thenselves.
Truth and Love being irreconcilably different? Thats a most lovely
masquerade of Wholeness forgetting its OWN Wholeness and living an
illusion of fractured Reality.
To subscribe, send a message to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Or go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/
and click 'Join This Group!'
Yahoo! Groups Links
<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/
<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
Are you saying MMY ought to get out more? I once heard a tale of him turning up unexpectedly in a black cab at one of the movement properties in the middle of the English countryside, apparently it really threw everyone. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:14 AM, blissbunn1 wrote: > > > > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the > > > dome these days ask the question about a foundation in > > > TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings > > > in participants lives > > > whereupon Sal Sunshine sagely opined: > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. > >And seeing as how someone else just got thrown out > >for that, how likely is it that they'd be open to the > >rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing > >to go.) > > > > Sal > > > > And, of course, in practice, how? Maharishi is surrounded by > numerous annuluses of poor quality worker bees who provide an > impenetratable barrier, and keep him "in splendid isolation". > Uns. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Mel Gibson view
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I spoke to my psychology class about this. Mel's > behavior is a great example of what happens when > there's no ego, no superego and only id. This is not > how Mel "really" feels, it's just his id running the > show. All of us would have some very brutal things to > say if we were as sh*tfaced as Mel was. There's some question about how sh*tfaced he actually was. His blood alcohol level was over the limit, but it wasn't all *that* high. It looks like the bad stuff may be fairly close to the surface, which just means he still has a really tough row to hoe to keep it from breaking out. > > --- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I found this view of the Gibson affair -- quite > > different from the > > Hitchens one -- that also makes a very good point. > > > > > > This is an excerpt of the full piece found at > > birdofparadise.blog > > > > Don't Forget that Mel Gibson Was Drunk > > Mel Gibson was arrested for drunk driving the other > > day. The police > > who arrested him described his uncooperative > > behavior, his repeated > > use of the "f**k" word and his making several > > clearly anti-Semitic > > statements. > > > > Apparently, this somehow "proves" that Mel Gibson is > > an anti-Semite. > > > > No it doesn't. All it proves is that Mel Gibson was > > drunk. > > > > If (let's imagine) that Mel Gibson's outburst is > > proof of his anti- > > semitism then the circumstances of his arrest would > > also prove > > that . . . > > > > --Mel Gibson is an advocate of expressing anger in > > public places; > > that > > --Mel Gibson believes that it is good and right to > > resist arrest; > > that > > --Mel Gibson feels that it is OK to drive while > > intoxicated; that > > --Mel Gibson, deep, deep down, approves of resisting > > police officer. > > > > No one in their right mind would draw these > > conclusions about Mel > > Gibson from his behavior and actions the night of > > his arrest. > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Road Trip
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > heshiepothead writes: (snipped)commenting on Judy > It's a stream of constant criticism and rebuttals and invalidating > comments and you seem to have a need to always be right. > > Tom T: > Judy would rather be right than be loved. You can't have it both ways. > Choose one or the other. I'm not sure they're mutually exclusive, but I certainly wouldn't want to be loved for not speaking up for what I believe is right. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Mel Gibson view
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I found this view of the Gibson affair -- quite different from the > Hitchens one -- that also makes a very good point. > > > This is an excerpt of the full piece found at birdofparadise.blog > > Don't Forget that Mel Gibson Was Drunk > Mel Gibson was arrested for drunk driving the other day. The police > who arrested him described his uncooperative behavior, his repeated > use of the "f**k" word and his making several clearly anti-Semitic > statements. > > Apparently, this somehow "proves" that Mel Gibson is an anti-Semite. > > No it doesn't. All it proves is that Mel Gibson was drunk. > > If (let's imagine) that Mel Gibson's outburst is proof of his anti- > semitism then the circumstances of his arrest would also prove > that . . . > > --Mel Gibson is an advocate of expressing anger in public places; > that > --Mel Gibson believes that it is good and right to resist arrest; > that > --Mel Gibson feels that it is OK to drive while intoxicated; that > --Mel Gibson, deep, deep down, approves of resisting police officer. > > No one in their right mind would draw these conclusions about Mel > Gibson from his behavior and actions the night of his arrest. The logic of this excerpt out of context is a bit, well, strained. But the guy goes on to extend the point in a way that makes a lot more sense: I don't know about you but, in my experience, "drunken behavior" rarely reveals deep truths about anyone. On the contrary, alcohol removes the self-imposed disciplines of self-control that keep the inner "raging beast" (that lies within most of us) under wraps. Drunks do and say things they would never, ever, ever say or do when they are sober. They sincerely regret those words and behaviors afterwards. I am not suggesting that Gibson's drunken comments were not offensive. They were both offensive and disgusting. But what we saw with Mel Gibson was not Dr. Jeckyll but Mr. Hyde . . . not Robert Bruce Banner but The Hulk. Which is the real Mel Gibson? Well, I would have to say that the real Mel Gibson is the person that, in his heart, he truly desires to be. We all know the stories of Mel's father's anti-semitism. Clearly the son grew up with this along with all the anger that accompanies such beliefs. Such upbringing stays with us the rest of our lives. We cannot purge ourselves of it but we can tame it, subdue it and hope that it remains dead and buried and beyond recall. When our inhibitions are diminished through alcohol, rage, stress or impatience those things we had hoped were "dead and buried" find ways to express themselves completely against our will and against our own moral values. Read more: http://tbirdofparadise.blogspot.com/ I think he's wrong that drunken behavior doesn't reveal "deep truths"; the deep truths in this case would be that despite his best efforts, Gibson hasn't been able to eradicate the effects of his upbringing. The issue is more whether he should be condemned because he hasn't been able to eradicate them. Seems to me as well that his alcoholism may be at least partially a function of this conflict, the stress of resisting his father's influence and becoming his own person. To have a father you love deeply but who holds views that you (along with society in general) consider unacceptable, to be a very public person, and to have a physiological tendency toward alcoholism is a really tough combination to deal with. I hope he gets some really, really good therapy. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Road Trip
-"tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" >My way of dealing with most > of the trash here is to ... Cuts my volume to 10% of > the total and allows me to avoid the trash that isn't worth bothering > over. Hope we meet again. Much love. Tom T Around "here", Brahaman enjoys and is enthralled by Brahman in all of Its masquerades. The light is "nothing" without the dark. Sorry to hear that the "masquerade" has overshadowed "you" for now and you are again caught up in the dreaminess of the snare of judegemental mind traffic -- scorching the true playfulness, vastness and glory of Wholeness. All good hopes for a "brighter" wholeness. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
> On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:14 AM, blissbunn1 wrote: > > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the > > dome these days ask the question about a foundation in > > TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings > > in participants lives > whereupon Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sagely opined: > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. >And seeing as how someone else just got thrown out >for that, how likely is it that they'd be open to the >rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing >to go.) > > Sal > And, of course, in practice, how? Maharishi is surrounded by numerous annuluses of poor quality worker bees who provide an impenetratable barrier, and keep him "in splendid isolation". Uns. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
