[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and HIV
Unless, of course, it works, and works well. The webinar is supposed to be talking about new research. Apparently it has been accepted for publication but not yet published. I thought that many journals put an embargo on such discussions once teh research is accepted until such time as it is published, but perhaps this particular journal doesn't have that restriction. If it's just the findings indicated below, I don't see what the fuss is about as those are pretty much what you would expect the effects of TM to be in any severely stressed out population. Perhaps AIDS patients are so unhealthy overall that such improvements are extremely relevant to the community, or perhaps there's some new types of effects that will be revealed. Regardless, since the DLF teaches TM for free to the groups it caters to, I don't see how you can claim they're a bunch of shameless sons of bitches -they're not targeting the HIV sufferers, but other people, AND, the DLF is not paying full price for TM instruction, either. And HIV positive means someone has a viral infection. Even if a person is symptom-free, that doesn't mean that they have been cured of HIV and there's no possible way of reading any claim on the DLF website that I could find that says that TM cures HIV. L HIV http://davidlynchfoundation.org/hiv.html http://davidlynchfoundation.org/hiv.html HIV http://davidlynchfoundation.org/hiv.html Our Foundation was established to ensure that any child in America who wants to learn and practice the Transcendental Meditation program ca... View on davidlynchfo... http://davidlynchfoundation.org/hiv.html Preview by Yahoo Scientific research on HIV-positive individuals practicing TM has shown: 51% decrease in HIV-related physical problems 43% increase in vitality 42% improvement in general health 27% decrease in perceived stress 22% improvement in emotional well being 38% reduction in anxiety 36% reduction in anger and hostility 39% decrease in depressive symptom ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : They aren't claiming TM will cure HIV, but they are edging too close for my comfort. Targeting the most vulnerable populations to garner donations from everyone stupid enough to believe their spiel. What a bunch of shameless sons of bitches. http://hiv.davidlynchfoundation.org/ http://hiv.davidlynchfoundation.org/ http://hiv.davidlynchfoundation.org/; class=ygrps-yiv-676216112link-enhancr-card-urlWrapper ygrps-yiv-676216112link-enhancr-element TRANSCENDING HIV/AIDS http://hiv.davidlynchfoundation.org/ About The Webinar View on hiv.davidlynchfoundatio... http://hiv.davidlynchfoundation.org/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc Growing Up in Utopia When your family and friends want to save the world by meditating, you can sometimes feel out of place in small-town Iow… View on medium.com Preview by Yahoo I couldn't read this piece because I couldn't get past the first paragraph. Whatever the author's intention in writing it is or was, his cluelessness in that first paragraph stopped me in my tracks, and kept me from reading any further: I learned how to fly when I was 17. I’m not talking about a plane, and this isn’t some euphemism. 'Yogic flying,' which is basically meditation at the black-belt level, offers the potential of human levitation -- although in actuality it looks more like energetic, if not rather effortless, cross-legged hopping. This person (although his intention may have been to suggest the opposite) is IMO *still* suffering from the ill effects of growing up in an insane asylum. Bouncing around on one's butt and calling it 'yogic flying' is NOT 'meditation at the black belt level,' it's INSANITY at the black belt level. Try picking any town in America, walking along its streets, stopping people at random, and explaining to them, I'm doing a survey. Twice a day I bounce around on my butt on big slabs of foam, along with other people who do the same thing because we are convinced that doing this will reduce crime, affect the weather, and create world peace. What do you think of this? My bet is that you would get answers like, Uh...sounds fine to me...good luck with that... spoken over the interviewee's shoulder as they were edging away, watching you carefully and hoping that you weren't following them so that they didn't have to break into a run. See, this is the thing that makes interacting with long-term TMers on this forum so challenging -- they really have NO IDEA how insane they are, and how insane the things they believe are. For many of them, it seems as if it's been so long since they've actually talked with anyone who WASN'T indoctrinated with all of this cult nonsense they way they were that they've forgotten how these normal people think and act. They're used to interfacing with people who don't bat an eyelash when you announce to them, Sorry...got to go...it's time for me to go fly now. Hint: That's insane. No one is flying. No one has EVER flown in *any* of the TM flying halls. And no one ever will. Most people, told that this would even be *possible*, would react with either laughter or derision, and walk away. TMSPers reacted by paying several thousand dollars to learn how. Hint: That's insane. And it's as insane now as it was when you first paid those thousands of dollars. The only reason people on this forum and around you in Fairfield don't think so is that you live in an enormous insane asylum, in which the residents are reinforcing their shared delusions by pretending that they're saving the world instead of acting out less-than-sane fantasies. Some of these inmates who post to this forum get upset when I or Michael or Salyavin or Curtis point out HOW far away from mainstream definitions of sanity they are to believe that there actually IS such a thing as the 'Maharishi Effect.' I imagine that inmates in mental hospitals feel the same way when doctors and nurses point out that they're not *really* Napoleon or Jesus Christ. To these people I say, GET OVER IT. Wake the fuck up, take a look around at international standards for sanity, shake yourself, and realize that if you actually believe that bouncing on your butt can be called 'flying' and that performing this bouncing is creating world peace...uh...you're INSANE. You're NOT special or more evolved or 10,000 X more powerful than lesser people, you're INSANE. It's OK to *be* insane, if your insane beliefs give you some sense of comfort and don't hurt anybody. After all, millions of people believe in an invisible man in the sky who watches everything they do, and as long as they don't get in other people's faces about it, they can be that insane and still be considered productive members of society. But ferchrissakes don't pretend that the things you believe AREN'T insane, and don't pretend to be outraged because other people point out the insanity. You CHOSE to be considered insane the moment you signed that check and paid thousands of dollars to learn how to 'fly.' Live with that choice now, and try not to pretend that you're still sane after having made it. Having made that choice makes you an outlier, an anomaly within human society. A nut case. 99% OR MORE OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET ARE GOING TO CONSIDER YOU A NUT CASE IF YOU TELL THEM YOU BELIEVE THAT BOUNCING ON YOUR BUTT IS 'FLYING' AND THAT IT'S 'THE BLACK BELT OF MEDITATION'. It's not. And no amount of claiming
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Old news, in one respect. I once read that Elvis' idea of fun was inviting friends over to his estate, issuing each of them an enormous bulldozer, and then having big dinosaur battles as they rammed them into one another until only one was left still running. But as crazy as that might have been, at least the bulldozers weren't doing this on their own. These guys want to build robots to do the same thing, and given the popularity of drones it's just a matter of time before they take the human pilots out of the equation. What could go wrong with an idea like that? :-) Startup wants to raise $1.8 million to build giant fighting robots Startup wants to raise $1.8 million to build giant fight... The folks at MegaBots Inc. dream of making humongous machines: 15-foot-tall, 15,000-pound piloted robots to be exact. And they don't want to build them View on www.engadget.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
Ethnography. Om no that first paragraph was really fine. It gave a lot of information to get going and you see it is an article where you the reader get to roll up your sleeves up to work with it. You're being way too cranky and hard-minded. As written it is actually an important article in ethnography about the group of meditators having come to live in Fairfield, Iowa. For those of us who live here in FF the writing captures things that we all live with. Things that are very familiar. Writing like this is an important adjunct to journalism by outside writers or in scholarly papers written by people who have not lived it. This article is worth a bookmark, like that article that Donna Schill Cleveland should have one. These are important voices that should be cultivated for the perspective they have. -Buck in the Dome turquoiseb wrote : From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc Growing Up in Utopia https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc When your family and friends want to save the world by meditating, you can sometimes feel out of place in small-town Iow… View on medium.com https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc Preview by Yahoo I couldn't read this piece because I couldn't get past the first paragraph. Whatever the author's intention in writing it is or was, his cluelessness in that first paragraph stopped me in my tracks, and kept me from reading any further: I learned how to fly when I was 17. I’m not talking about a plane, and this isn’t some euphemism. 'Yogic flying,' which is basically meditation at the black-belt level, offers the potential of human levitation -- although in actuality it looks more like energetic, if not rather effortless, cross-legged hopping. This person (although his intention may have been to suggest the opposite) is IMO *still* suffering from the ill effects of growing up in an insane asylum. Bouncing around on one's butt and calling it 'yogic flying' is NOT 'meditation at the black belt level,' it's INSANITY at the black belt level. Try picking any town in America, walking along its streets, stopping people at random, and explaining to them, I'm doing a survey. Twice a day I bounce around on my butt on big slabs of foam, along with other people who do the same thing because we are convinced that doing this will reduce crime, affect the weather, and create world peace. What do you think of this? My bet is that you would get answers like, Uh...sounds fine to me...good luck with that... spoken over the interviewee's shoulder as they were edging away, watching you carefully and hoping that you weren't following them so that they didn't have to break into a run. See, this is the thing that makes interacting with long-term TMers on this forum so challenging -- they really have NO IDEA how insane they are, and how insane the things they believe are. For many of them, it seems as if it's been so long since they've actually talked with anyone who WASN'T indoctrinated with all of this cult nonsense they way they were that they've forgotten how these normal people think and act. They're used to interfacing with people who don't bat an eyelash when you announce to them, Sorry...got to go...it's time for me to go fly now. Hint: That's insane. No one is flying. No one has EVER flown in *any* of the TM flying halls. And no one ever will. Most people, told that this would even be *possible*, would react with either laughter or derision, and walk away. TMSPers reacted by paying several thousand dollars to learn how. Hint: That's insane. And it's as insane now as it was when you first paid those thousands of dollars. The only reason people on this forum and around you in Fairfield don't think so is that you live in an enormous insane asylum, in which the residents are reinforcing their shared delusions by pretending that they're saving the world instead of acting out less-than-sane fantasies. Some of these inmates who post to this forum get upset when I or Michael or Salyavin or Curtis point out HOW far away from mainstream definitions of sanity they are to believe that there actually IS such a thing as the 'Maharishi Effect.' I imagine that inmates in mental hospitals feel the same way when doctors and nurses point out that they're not *really* Napoleon or Jesus Christ. To these people I say, GET OVER IT. Wake the fuck up, take a look around at international standards for sanity, shake yourself, and realize that if you actually believe that bouncing on your butt can be called 'flying' and that performing this bouncing is creating world peace...uh...you're
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM Ethnography. Om no that first paragraph was really fine. It gave a lot of information to get going and you see it is an article where you the reader get to roll up your sleeves up to work with it. You're being way too cranky and hard-minded. No, I'm being realistic, because at one point in my life I was as insane as the people in Fairfield who believe that by bouncing on their butts they are flying. But in my case this delusion only lasted for about a year. I regained my sanity and left long before the TMO started claiming that by bouncing on my butt I could create world peace, which is actually a more troubling level of insanity than believing it could make them fly. I'm presenting on this forum (that was *created* to discuss alternative views of TM, BTW) a different point of view on the insanity TM dome goers are living with on a daily basis, because it appears they're not likely to ever get that point of view from within Fairfield itself. There is too much effort being expended by people like you to candy coat this insanity and try to present it as if it were normal. It isn't. It never was. It never will be. What it is is insanity. If you can admit that, you might become sane someday. If you can't, you probably never will. As written it is actually an important article in ethnography about the group of meditators having come to live in Fairfield, Iowa. For those of us who live here in FF the writing captures things that we all live with. Things that are very familiar. Writing like this is an important adjunct to journalism by outside writers or in scholarly papers written by people who have not lived it. This article is worth a bookmark, like that article that Donna Schill Cleveland should have one. These are important voices that should be cultivated for the perspective they have. turquoiseb wrote : From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc Growing Up in Utopia When your family and friends want to save the world by meditating, you can sometimes feel out of place in small-town Iow… View on medium.com Preview by Yahoo I couldn't read this piece because I couldn't get past the first paragraph. Whatever the author's intention in writing it is or was, his cluelessness in that first paragraph stopped me in my tracks, and kept me from reading any further: I learned how to fly when I was 17. I’m not talking about a plane, and this isn’t some euphemism. 'Yogic flying,' which is basically meditation at the black-belt level, offers the potential of human levitation -- although in actuality it looks more like energetic, if not rather effortless, cross-legged hopping. This person (although his intention may have been to suggest the opposite) is IMO *still* suffering from the ill effects of growing up in an insane asylum. Bouncing around on one's butt and calling it 'yogic flying' is NOT 'meditation at the black belt level,' it's INSANITY at the black belt level. Try picking any town in America, walking along its streets, stopping people at random, and explaining to them, I'm doing a survey. Twice a day I bounce around on my butt on big slabs of foam, along with other people who do the same thing because we are convinced that doing this will reduce crime, affect the weather, and create world peace. What do you think of this? My bet is that you would get answers like, Uh...sounds fine to me...good luck with that... spoken over the interviewee's shoulder as they were edging away, watching you carefully and hoping that you weren't following them so that they didn't have to break into a run. See, this is the thing that makes interacting with long-term TMers on this forum so challenging -- they really have NO IDEA how insane they are, and how insane the things they believe are. For many of them, it seems as if it's been so long since they've actually talked with anyone who WASN'T indoctrinated with all of this cult nonsense they way they were that they've forgotten how these normal people think and act. They're used to interfacing with people who don't bat an eyelash when you announce to them, Sorry...got to go...it's time for me to go fly now. Hint: That's insane. No one is flying. No one has EVER flown in *any* of the TM flying halls. And no one ever will. Most people, told that this would even be *possible*, would react with either laughter or derision, and walk away. TMSPers reacted by paying several thousand dollars to learn how. Hint: That's insane. And it's as insane now as it was when you first paid those thousands of dollars. The only reason people on this forum and around you in Fairfield don't
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
Barry, what are you going to do about this?! People are still bouncing on their butts on foam with this misguided notion that they are doing something positive for the world. This is a national, nay, a global scourge, and your efforts to enlist the LR, evidently is not paying off. Again, you've got to do more. It's either them or you, and they seem to be winning, at least in the area of driving you bat shit crazy P.S. I did get to at least the second paragraph of you manifesto. Hey good people of the Netherlands, if you see some guy frantically pacing back and forth in one one your cafes, muttering something along the lines, they're not listening to me. WTF are they not listening to me? My LR are letting me down. Buy him a beer or something. Put in on our tab, or just do it as a Good Samaritan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc Growing Up in Utopia https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc When your family and friends want to save the world by meditating, you can sometimes feel out of place in small-town Iow… View on medium.com https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc Preview by Yahoo I couldn't read this piece because I couldn't get past the first paragraph. Whatever the author's intention in writing it is or was, his cluelessness in that first paragraph stopped me in my tracks, and kept me from reading any further: I learned how to fly when I was 17. I’m not talking about a plane, and this isn’t some euphemism. 'Yogic flying,' which is basically meditation at the black-belt level, offers the potential of human levitation -- although in actuality it looks more like energetic, if not rather effortless, cross-legged hopping. This person (although his intention may have been to suggest the opposite) is IMO *still* suffering from the ill effects of growing up in an insane asylum. Bouncing around on one's butt and calling it 'yogic flying' is NOT 'meditation at the black belt level,' it's INSANITY at the black belt level. Try picking any town in America, walking along its streets, stopping people at random, and explaining to them, I'm doing a survey. Twice a day I bounce around on my butt on big slabs of foam, along with other people who do the same thing because we are convinced that doing this will reduce crime, affect the weather, and create world peace. What do you think of this? My bet is that you would get answers like, Uh...sounds fine to me...good luck with that... spoken over the interviewee's shoulder as they were edging away, watching you carefully and hoping that you weren't following them so that they didn't have to break into a run. See, this is the thing that makes interacting with long-term TMers on this forum so challenging -- they really have NO IDEA how insane they are, and how insane the things they believe are. For many of them, it seems as if it's been so long since they've actually talked with anyone who WASN'T indoctrinated with all of this cult nonsense they way they were that they've forgotten how these normal people think and act. They're used to interfacing with people who don't bat an eyelash when you announce to them, Sorry...got to go...it's time for me to go fly now. Hint: That's insane. No one is flying. No one has EVER flown in *any* of the TM flying halls. And no one ever will. Most people, told that this would even be *possible*, would react with either laughter or derision, and walk away. TMSPers reacted by paying several thousand dollars to learn how. Hint: That's insane. And it's as insane now as it was when you first paid those thousands of dollars. The only reason people on this forum and around you in Fairfield don't think so is that you live in an enormous insane asylum, in which the residents are reinforcing their shared delusions by pretending that they're saving the world instead of acting out less-than-sane fantasies. Some of these inmates who post to this forum get upset when I or Michael or Salyavin or Curtis point out HOW far away from mainstream definitions of sanity they are to believe that there actually IS such a thing as the 'Maharishi Effect.' I imagine that inmates in mental hospitals feel the same way when doctors and nurses point out that they're not *really* Napoleon or Jesus Christ. To these people I say, GET OVER IT. Wake the fuck up, take a look around at international standards for sanity, shake yourself, and realize that if you actually believe that bouncing on your butt can be called 'flying' and that performing this bouncing is creating world
[FairfieldLife] Re: Elsewhere in SKYNET News
First the butt bouncers, and now this! Barry, you've got work to do son. Start an institute or something. The BW Institute of How I Can Set The World Wright If only they would listen to me. Why, ferchristsakes is the world not beating a path to my door LRs, LRs, Heed My Call! Double down on your efforts to spread the world. A back page mention of Doug Hamilton in Wine Spectator, (or whatever it was) is not sufficient. Not Sufficient I Tell You! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Old news, in one respect. I once read that Elvis' idea of fun was inviting friends over to his estate, issuing each of them an enormous bulldozer, and then having big dinosaur battles as they rammed them into one another until only one was left still running. But as crazy as that might have been, at least the bulldozers weren't doing this on their own. These guys want to build robots to do the same thing, and given the popularity of drones it's just a matter of time before they take the human pilots out of the equation. What could go wrong with an idea like that? :-) Startup wants to raise $1.8 million to build giant fighting robots http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/29/megabots-kickstarter/?ncid=rss_truncated Startup wants to raise $1.8 million to build giant fight... http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/29/megabots-kickstarter/?ncid=rss_truncated The folks at MegaBots Inc. dream of making humongous machines: 15-foot-tall, 15,000-pound piloted robots to be exact. And they don't want to build them View on www.engadget.com http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/29/megabots-kickstarter/?ncid=rss_truncated Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
Barry Emanuel. He is among us. This anti cult messiah is among us. A mission of mercy on the part of Barry. Praise God! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : snip If you can admit that, you might become sane someday. If you can't, you probably never will. As written it is actually an important article in ethnography about the group of meditators having come to live in Fairfield, Iowa. For those of us who live here in FF the writing captures things that we all live with. Things that are very familiar. Writing like this is an important adjunct to journalism by outside writers or in scholarly papers written by people who have not lived it. This article is worth a bookmark, like that article that Donna Schill Cleveland should have one. These are important voices that should be cultivated for the perspective they have. turquoiseb wrote : From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc Growing Up in Utopia https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc When your family and friends want to save the world by meditating, you can sometimes feel out of place in small-town Iow… View on medium.com https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc Preview by Yahoo I couldn't read this piece because I couldn't get past the first paragraph. Whatever the author's intention in writing it is or was, his cluelessness in that first paragraph stopped me in my tracks, and kept me from reading any further: I learned how to fly when I was 17. I’m not talking about a plane, and this isn’t some euphemism. 'Yogic flying,' which is basically meditation at the black-belt level, offers the potential of human levitation -- although in actuality it looks more like energetic, if not rather effortless, cross-legged hopping. This person (although his intention may have been to suggest the opposite) is IMO *still* suffering from the ill effects of growing up in an insane asylum. Bouncing around on one's butt and calling it 'yogic flying' is NOT 'meditation at the black belt level,' it's INSANITY at the black belt level. Try picking any town in America, walking along its streets, stopping people at random, and explaining to them, I'm doing a survey. Twice a day I bounce around on my butt on big slabs of foam, along with other people who do the same thing because we are convinced that doing this will reduce crime, affect the weather, and create world peace. What do you think of this? My bet is that you would get answers like, Uh...sounds fine to me...good luck with that... spoken over the interviewee's shoulder as they were edging away, watching you carefully and hoping that you weren't following them so that they didn't have to break into a run. See, this is the thing that makes interacting with long-term TMers on this forum so challenging -- they really have NO IDEA how insane they are, and how insane the things they believe are. For many of them, it seems as if it's been so long since they've actually talked with anyone who WASN'T indoctrinated with all of this cult nonsense they way they were that they've forgotten how these normal people think and act. They're used to interfacing with people who don't bat an eyelash when you announce to them, Sorry...got to go...it's time for me to go fly now. Hint: That's insane. No one is flying. No one has EVER flown in *any* of the TM flying halls. And no one ever will. Most people, told that this would even be *possible*, would react with either laughter or derision, and walk away. TMSPers reacted by paying several thousand dollars to learn how. Hint: That's insane. And it's as insane now as it was when you first paid those thousands of dollars. The only reason people on this forum and around you in Fairfield don't think so is that you live in an enormous insane asylum, in which the residents are reinforcing their shared delusions by pretending that they're saving the world instead of acting out less-than-sane fantasies. Some of these inmates who post to this forum get upset when I or Michael or Salyavin or Curtis point out HOW far away from mainstream definitions of sanity they are to believe that there actually IS such a thing as the 'Maharishi Effect.' I imagine that inmates in mental hospitals feel the same way when doctors and nurses point out that they're not *really* Napoleon or Jesus Christ. To these people I say, GET OVER IT. Wake the fuck up, take a look around at international standards for sanity, shake yourself, and realize that if you actually believe that bouncing on your butt can be called 'flying' and that performing this bouncing is
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
One of the more interesting things in this piece is his reference to a private blog group called Cult Bros which is a group of people who grew up in the Movement: for many of my friends who have left, their relationship with home is a fraught one. Somewhere on the Internet there’s a listserv or private group blog called Cult Bros, where a group of Gen-Xers and Millennials who grew up in the Movement air their grievances. I’m not a Cult Bros member myself, but I can anticipate their conversations — they’d be familiar to anyone who grew up in a community defined by certain dogma, religious or otherwise. There’s the resentment of the years spent trying to be perfect little yogis, frustrations over growing up in what can be a very socially conservative environment, anger at the time and effort and money spent working toward the unattainable goal that is world peace with very little payoff. There’s questioning of the traditions we grew up with, the means to this impossible end — the pujas, the mantras, the jai Guru Devs, the Golden Domes, the yogic flying. Questioning all of the Hindu mythology that’s wrapped up this thing we were told was not a religion. Like anyone from anywhere, the Cult Bros are trying to come to terms with their home. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 5:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc Growing Up in Utopia When your family and friends want to save the world by meditating, you can sometimes feel out of place in small-town Iow… View on medium.com Preview by Yahoo I couldn't read this piece because I couldn't get past the first paragraph. Whatever the author's intention in writing it is or was, his cluelessness in that first paragraph stopped me in my tracks, and kept me from reading any further: I learned how to fly when I was 17. I’m not talking about a plane, and this isn’t some euphemism. 'Yogic flying,' which is basically meditation at the black-belt level, offers the potential of human levitation -- although in actuality it looks more like energetic, if not rather effortless, cross-legged hopping. This person (although his intention may have been to suggest the opposite) is IMO *still* suffering from the ill effects of growing up in an insane asylum. Bouncing around on one's butt and calling it 'yogic flying' is NOT 'meditation at the black belt level,' it's INSANITY at the black belt level. Try picking any town in America, walking along its streets, stopping people at random, and explaining to them, I'm doing a survey. Twice a day I bounce around on my butt on big slabs of foam, along with other people who do the same thing because we are convinced that doing this will reduce crime, affect the weather, and create world peace. What do you think of this? My bet is that you would get answers like, Uh...sounds fine to me...good luck with that... spoken over the interviewee's shoulder as they were edging away, watching you carefully and hoping that you weren't following them so that they didn't have to break into a run. See, this is the thing that makes interacting with long-term TMers on this forum so challenging -- they really have NO IDEA how insane they are, and how insane the things they believe are. For many of them, it seems as if it's been so long since they've actually talked with anyone who WASN'T indoctrinated with all of this cult nonsense they way they were that they've forgotten how these normal people think and act. They're used to interfacing with people who don't bat an eyelash when you announce to them, Sorry...got to go...it's time for me to go fly now. Hint: That's insane. No one is flying. No one has EVER flown in *any* of the TM flying halls. And no one ever will. Most people, told that this would even be *possible*, would react with either laughter or derision, and walk away. TMSPers reacted by paying several thousand dollars to learn how. Hint: That's insane. And it's as insane now as it was when you first paid those thousands of dollars. The only reason people on this forum and around you in Fairfield don't think so is that you live in an enormous insane asylum, in which the residents are reinforcing their shared delusions by pretending that they're saving the world instead of acting out less-than-sane fantasies. Some of these inmates who post to this forum get upset when I or Michael or Salyavin or Curtis point out HOW far away from mainstream definitions of sanity they are to believe that there actually IS such a thing as the 'Maharishi Effect.' I imagine that inmates in mental hospitals
[FairfieldLife] Rewire your brain!
Interesting research into shrooms, I always knew they had therapeutic potential, it's all the running around in fields and painting rainbows on naked breasts they inspire you to do that used to put off serious researchers (for some reason). I'd like to volunteer for any follow-up research, as long as I don't get put in the placebo group. Talk about missing out on a good time. Or would my previous experience trigger a sympathetic response and I'd get just as good a hit? Got to be worth a try How Magic Mushrooms Change Your Brain | IFLScience http://www.iflscience.com/brain/magic-mushroom-chemical-hyper-connects-brain http://www.iflscience.com/brain/magic-mushroom-chemical-hyper-connects-brain How Magic Mushrooms Change Your Brain | IFLSc... http://www.iflscience.com/brain/magic-mushroom-chemical-hyper-connects-brain Psilocybin is a chemical found in magic mushrooms that causes the user to experience a sensory overload of saturated colors and patterns. Recent ... View on www.iflscience.com http://www.iflscience.com/brain/magic-mushroom-chemical-hyper-connects-brain Preview by Yahoo This is your brain on drugs:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM One of the more interesting things in this piece is his reference to a private blog group called Cult Bros which is a group of people who grew up in the Movement: for many of my friends who have left, their relationship with home is a fraught one. Somewhere on the Internet there’s a listserv or private group blog called Cult Bros, where a group of Gen-Xers and Millennials who grew up in the Movement air their grievances. I’m not a Cult Bros member myself, but I can anticipate their conversations — they’d be familiar to anyone who grew up in a community defined by certain dogma, religious or otherwise. There’s the resentment of the years spent trying to be perfect little yogis, frustrations over growing up in what can be a very socially conservative environment, anger at the time and effort and money spent working toward the unattainable goal that is world peace with very little payoff. There’s questioning of the traditions we grew up with, the means to this impossible end — the pujas, the mantras, the jai Guru Devs, the Golden Domes, the yogic flying. Questioning all of the Hindu mythology that’s wrapped up this thing we were told was not a religion. Like anyone from anywhere, the Cult Bros are trying to come to terms with their home. I actually think that the Cult Bros thang is healthy, and the fact that the author of this fluff piece ISN'T a member and doesn't seem to be doing any real examination of the insanity he grew up with strikes me as far less healthy. The very fact that he could refer to the made-up, non-existent Yogic Flying as the black belt of meditation indicates to me that he's never understood meditation, much less anything to do with black belts. He's written a puff piece to make money, and pooh-pooh his own history growing up as if he's all adult now, and looks back on it as if it were just silly. My point is that it's a great deal MORE than silly -- it's insanity, on a mass scale. This guy has never really dealt with that. I have more respect for his bros in Cult Bros, who at least understand and acknowledge what they were part of. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 5:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc Growing Up in Utopia When your family and friends want to save the world by meditating, you can sometimes feel out of place in small-town Iow… View on medium.com Preview by Yahoo I couldn't read this piece because I couldn't get past the first paragraph. Whatever the author's intention in writing it is or was, his cluelessness in that first paragraph stopped me in my tracks, and kept me from reading any further: I learned how to fly when I was 17. I’m not talking about a plane, and this isn’t some euphemism. 'Yogic flying,' which is basically meditation at the black-belt level, offers the potential of human levitation -- although in actuality it looks more like energetic, if not rather effortless, cross-legged hopping. This person (although his intention may have been to suggest the opposite) is IMO *still* suffering from the ill effects of growing up in an insane asylum. Bouncing around on one's butt and calling it 'yogic flying' is NOT 'meditation at the black belt level,' it's INSANITY at the black belt level. Try picking any town in America, walking along its streets, stopping people at random, and explaining to them, I'm doing a survey. Twice a day I bounce around on my butt on big slabs of foam, along with other people who do the same thing because we are convinced that doing this will reduce crime, affect the weather, and create world peace. What do you think of this? My bet is that you would get answers like, Uh...sounds fine to me...good luck with that... spoken over the interviewee's shoulder as they were edging away, watching you carefully and hoping that you weren't following them so that they didn't have to break into a run. See, this is the thing that makes interacting with long-term TMers on this forum so challenging -- they really have NO IDEA how insane they are, and how insane the things they believe are. For many of them, it seems as if it's been so long since they've actually talked with anyone who WASN'T indoctrinated with all of this cult nonsense they way they were that they've forgotten how these normal people think and act. They're used to interfacing
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Mental Health, Hating, Turq, and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
On 10/29/2014 3:11 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Well, Bhairitu, he went to university and then they expected him to get married. Seems pretty traditional to me. /Apparently the Maharishi was born into a a traditional Indian family; went to university and graduated; worked in a factory for awhile; and then became a beggar. It's not complicated./ *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 29, 2014 2:40 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Mental Health, Hating, Turq, and Belief in God is a form of mental illness Share, ever been to India? Hard to imagine that Maharishi didn't have to avoid beggars growing up. So what *is* a traditional Indian family? On 10/29/2014 11:20 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com mailto:sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Nablusoss, all those good habits can definitely help, but if a person has experienced severe trauma in childhood, more than good habits will be needed, even if they're regular with TMSP. Because Maharishi came from a traditional and stable Indian family, he probably wasn't aware of ow dysfunctional families can be in less traditional countries.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : One of the more interesting things in this piece is his reference to a private blog group called Cult Bros which is a group of people who grew up in the Movement: for many of my friends who have left, their relationship with home is a fraught one. Somewhere on the Internet there’s a listserv or private group blog called Cult Bros, where a group of Gen-Xers and Millennials who grew up in the Movement air their grievances. I’m not a Cult Bros member myself, but I can anticipate their conversations — they’d be familiar to anyone who grew up in a community defined by certain dogma, religious or otherwise. There’s the resentment of the years spent trying to be perfect little yogis, frustrations over growing up in what can be a very socially conservative environment, anger at the time and effort and money spent working toward the unattainable goal that is world peace with very little payoff. There’s questioning of the traditions we grew up with, the means to this impossible end — the pujas, the mantras, the jai Guru Devs, the Golden Domes, the yogic flying. Questioning all of the Hindu mythology that’s wrapped up this thing we were told was not a religion. Like anyone from anywhere, the Cult Bros are trying to come to terms with their home. I had a search around but couldn't find them. I thought a good bit of writing was his insight that yogic flying is the TMO's Xenu. Xenu being the Scientology creator god who enslaved a then extraterrestrial humanity a billion years ago and threw our souls into a volcano on Earth (or some such bollocks). The joke is that Scientologists spend decades working towards (and paying) for what is supposed to be the ultimate knowledge and is revealed to you only when you've proved yourself worthy enough. When you've reached these dizzy heights of acceptability you are taken into a room and shown this revealed Truth, written in Elrons own hand no less. A cheap sci-fi novel. Imagine how pissed off you'd be? But no, everyone is so caught up in the mind game that is cult beliefs that they accept it and even feel honoured. All their friends know and believe the great secret so why not? So much to lose if you pull out by then... I remember the first day of my TMSP course when I got the first sutra and found out that it wasn't some enigmatic sanskrit term but the word friendliness. How pissed off was I? A lot. But I stayed and got the rest and practised them for ten years. That's the way it works. You, me and Xenu. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 5:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc Growing Up in Utopia https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc When your family and friends want to save the world by meditating, you can sometimes feel out of place in small-town Iow… View on medium.com https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc Preview by Yahoo I couldn't read this piece because I couldn't get past the first paragraph. Whatever the author's intention in writing it is or was, his cluelessness in that first paragraph stopped me in my tracks, and kept me from reading any further: I learned how to fly when I was 17. I’m not talking about a plane, and this isn’t some euphemism. 'Yogic flying,' which is basically meditation at the black-belt level, offers the potential of human levitation -- although in actuality it looks more like energetic, if not rather effortless, cross-legged hopping. This person (although his intention may have been to suggest the opposite) is IMO *still* suffering from the ill effects of growing up in an insane asylum. Bouncing around on one's butt and calling it 'yogic flying' is NOT 'meditation at the black belt level,' it's INSANITY at the black belt level. Try picking any town in America, walking along its streets, stopping people at random, and explaining to them, I'm doing a survey. Twice a day I bounce around on my butt on big slabs of foam, along with other people who do the same thing because we are convinced that doing this will reduce crime, affect the weather, and create world peace. What do you think of this? My bet is that you would get answers like, Uh...sounds fine to me...good luck with that... spoken over the interviewee's shoulder as they were edging away, watching you carefully and hoping that you weren't following them so that they
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Mental Health, Hating, Turq, and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
On 10/29/2014 3:40 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Try this on for size for what traditional Indian families are like: /Prejudice is a preconceived judgment toward people or a person because of religion, gender, political opinion, social class, age, disability, sexuality, race/ethnicity, language, nationality or other personal characteristics./ http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-29708612 *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 29, 2014 3:40 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Mental Health, Hating, Turq, and Belief in God is a form of mental illness Share, ever been to India? Hard to imagine that Maharishi didn't have to avoid beggars growing up. So what *is* a traditional Indian family? On 10/29/2014 11:20 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com mailto:sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Nablusoss, all those good habits can definitely help, but if a person has experienced severe trauma in childhood, more than good habits will be needed, even if they're regular with TMSP. Because Maharishi came from a traditional and stable Indian family, he probably wasn't aware of ow dysfunctional families can be in less traditional countries.
Re: [FairfieldLife] TM and HIV
On 10/29/2014 8:02 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: They aren't claiming TM will cure HIV, /Non sequitur. There is no cure for HIV.//Everyone already knows that./ but they are edging too close for my comfort. Targeting the most vulnerable populations to garner donations from everyone stupid enough to believe their spiel. What a bunch of shameless sons of bitches. http://hiv.davidlynchfoundation.org/ image http://hiv.davidlynchfoundation.org/ TRANSCENDING HIV/AIDS http://hiv.davidlynchfoundation.org/ About The Webinar View on hiv.davidlynchfoundatio... http://hiv.davidlynchfoundation.org/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
On 10/29/2014 8:33 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I'm with you on that assessment. /The story he posted sucks. The troll just can't seem to face reality: he was fired from his position in the MIU cafeteria kitchen and kicked off the campus for good reason a decade ago. He sucked as a dish-washer and he sucked at practicing meditation. He sucks as an informant./ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/29/2014 9:47 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: /This has got to be one of the most boring stories about growing up in Fairfield I have ever read. The only interesting part is realizing that you must dream about this stuff in your sleep. Go figure./ https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc image https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc Growing Up in Utopia https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc When your family and friends want to save the world by meditating, you can sometimes feel out of place in small-town Iow… View on medium.com https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Mental Health, Hating, Turq, and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
On 10/29/2014 8:51 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: You may not realize this, Michael, but this likely says more about your upbringing than anything else. /Obviously he is prejudiced. He was probably born into a traditional southern family that hated blacks and minorities of all kinds. Let's not forget that S.C. was the location of the first rebellion in the Civil War. He has a lot of baggage to work through. He appears to be almost retarded at times. He's so transparent - posting with the alias of a dead black entertainer tells you a lot about his present mind-set. Go figure./ I don't think this would have popped into anyone elses head as an illustration of a traditional family. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Try this on for size for what traditional Indian families are like: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-29708612 *From:* Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 29, 2014 3:40 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Mental Health, Hating, Turq, and Belief in God is a form of mental illness Share, ever been to India? Hard to imagine that Maharishi didn't have to avoid beggars growing up. So what *is* a traditional Indian family? On 10/29/2014 11:20 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Nablusoss, all those good habits can definitely help, but if a person has experienced severe trauma in childhood, more than good habits will be needed, even if they're regular with TMSP. Because Maharishi came from a traditional and stable Indian family, he probably wasn't aware of ow dysfunctional families can be in less traditional countries.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : One of the more interesting things in this piece is his reference to a private blog group called Cult Bros which is a group of people who grew up in the Movement: for many of my friends who have left, their relationship with home is a fraught one. Somewhere on the Internet there’s a listserv or private group blog called Cult Bros, where a group of Gen-Xers and Millennials who grew up in the Movement air their grievances. I’m not a Cult Bros member myself, but I can anticipate their conversations — they’d be familiar to anyone who grew up in a community defined by certain dogma, religious or otherwise. There’s the resentment of the years spent trying to be perfect little yogis, frustrations over growing up in what can be a very socially conservative environment, anger at the time and effort and money spent working toward the unattainable goal that is world peace with very little payoff. There’s questioning of the traditions we grew up with, the means to this impossible end — the pujas, the mantras, the jai Guru Devs, the Golden Domes, the yogic flying. Questioning all of the Hindu mythology that’s wrapped up this thing we were told was not a religion. Like anyone from anywhere, the Cult Bros are trying to come to terms with their home. I had a search around but couldn't find them. I thought a good bit of writing was his insight that yogic flying is the TMO's Xenu. I did go back and read the piece in spite of my resistance to it, and would agree, except that the guy doesn't explain what a Xenu moment is, or even what Xenu was about. YOU did that, below, and that is *inclusive* writing, inviting those who don't know and assume the same esoterica that you know into the conversation and including them. As he wrote it, it's *exclusive*, meaning that it's an in joke that he wrote for himself and its probable effect among other TM cultists. Xenu being the Scientology creator god who enslaved a then extraterrestrial humanity a billion years ago and threw our souls into a volcano on Earth (or some such bollocks). The joke is that Scientologists spend decades working towards (and paying) for what is supposed to be the ultimate knowledge and is revealed to you only when you've proved yourself worthy enough. When you've reached these dizzy heights of acceptability you are taken into a room and shown this revealed Truth, written in Elrons own hand no less. A cheap sci-fi novel. Imagine how pissed off you'd be? But no, everyone is so caught up in the mind game that is cult beliefs that they accept it and even feel honoured. All their friends know and believe the great secret so why not? So much to lose if you pull out by then... I remember the first day of my TMSP course when I got the first sutra and found out that it wasn't some enigmatic sanskrit term but the word friendliness. How pissed off was I? A lot. But I stayed and got the rest and practised them for ten years. This is a good point, and I've brought it up before. Can you *believe* that there are still people on this forum who believe that the TMSP is an ancient technique once taught by Patanjali? They say this to strangers who have never learned it, just parroting the same sales pitches that worked on them, but more interestingly they say it to others who *have* learned the TM siddhis. And no one corrects them. Because it's easier to pretend that it's some esoteric, age-old knowledge that they paid thousands of dollars for than it is to admit that they paid all that money for a bunch of phrases in English (or their native language) that they could have gotten -- verbatim -- from a $4.95 paperback version of the Yoga Sutras. (That, after all, is probably where *Maharishi* got the English phrases he sold for thousands of dollars.) The Xenu thang worked because the $cientologists wisely kept it hidden until the students were so far gone into the cult that they wouldn't freak out at how tacky this final revelation was. The TM movement similarly tried to keep the reality of what the TMSP really was secret by telling people What we learn in private we keep private and creating a kind of myth about the Bad Things that would happen to you if you revealed your mantra or (even worse) the oh-so-secret flying sutra, which is just a load of bollocks about how light cotton fiber is. In English. That's the way it works. You, me and Xenu. I still wish that this guy had written a somewhat ballsier piece, dealing with the real meat of the cognitive dissonance that his more honest Cult Bro friends are dealing with. A better article would have been less fluffy and less Weren't we silly to believe this stuff? An honest article would be more real, more along the lines of,Weren't we absolutely INSANE to believe any of this stuff? This fellow's cult bro friends seem more advanced that he does to me. They
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
Doug, I guess you should resign yourself to henceforth being the main target of Barry's anti cult tirades. I don't know the exact reason for this, but I suspect because after a almost decades long effort he finally was able to get some notice in an obscure zine, mentioning your name as an example of a cult apologist. To most here, you comment was an example of over the top hyperbole, not to be condoned, but not rising to level Barry wished to present it. Of course, that matters not to Barry. It gave him some measure of vindication, and some assurance, (I guess), that his valiant efforts have not been for vain. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM Ethnography. Om no that first paragraph was really fine. It gave a lot of information to get going and you see it is an article where you the reader get to roll up your sleeves up to work with it. You're being way too cranky and hard-minded. No, I'm being realistic, because at one point in my life I was as insane as the people in Fairfield who believe that by bouncing on their butts they are flying. But in my case this delusion only lasted for about a year. I regained my sanity and left long before the TMO started claiming that by bouncing on my butt I could create world peace, which is actually a more troubling level of insanity than believing it could make them fly. I'm presenting on this forum (that was *created* to discuss alternative views of TM, BTW) a different point of view on the insanity TM dome goers are living with on a daily basis, because it appears they're not likely to ever get that point of view from within Fairfield itself. There is too much effort being expended by people like you to candy coat this insanity and try to present it as if it were normal. It isn't. It never was. It never will be. What it is is insanity. If you can admit that, you might become sane someday. If you can't, you probably never will. As written it is actually an important article in ethnography about the group of meditators having come to live in Fairfield, Iowa. For those of us who live here in FF the writing captures things that we all live with. Things that are very familiar. Writing like this is an important adjunct to journalism by outside writers or in scholarly papers written by people who have not lived it. This article is worth a bookmark, like that article that Donna Schill Cleveland should have one. These are important voices that should be cultivated for the perspective they have. turquoiseb wrote : From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc Growing Up in Utopia https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc When your family and friends want to save the world by meditating, you can sometimes feel out of place in small-town Iow… View on medium.com https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc Preview by Yahoo I couldn't read this piece because I couldn't get past the first paragraph. Whatever the author's intention in writing it is or was, his cluelessness in that first paragraph stopped me in my tracks, and kept me from reading any further: I learned how to fly when I was 17. I’m not talking about a plane, and this isn’t some euphemism. 'Yogic flying,' which is basically meditation at the black-belt level, offers the potential of human levitation -- although in actuality it looks more like energetic, if not rather effortless, cross-legged hopping. This person (although his intention may have been to suggest the opposite) is IMO *still* suffering from the ill effects of growing up in an insane asylum. Bouncing around on one's butt and calling it 'yogic flying' is NOT 'meditation at the black belt level,' it's INSANITY at the black belt level. Try picking any town in America, walking along its streets, stopping people at random, and explaining to them, I'm doing a survey. Twice a day I bounce around on my butt on big slabs of foam, along with other people who do the same thing because we are convinced that doing this will reduce crime, affect the weather, and create world peace. What do you think of this? My bet is that you would get answers like, Uh...sounds fine to me...good luck with that... spoken over the interviewee's shoulder as they were edging away, watching you carefully and hoping that you weren't following them so that they didn't have to break into a run. See, this is the thing that makes interacting
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
Orwhat you are saying, is that he isn't reacting the way, I think he should be reacting. For most people who aren't obsessed with finding cult tendencies, his piece is just a reflection, a writing exercise of sorts, dealing with a piece of his growing up. Obviously, you miss this, because you are so invested in your own particular mindset, that you miss any nuance of what his purpose in writing this piece might be. And, of course we've seen many of examples of this, (missing nuance) on your part, especially over the past few month. perhaps coinciding with end of you technical writing gig at BB. Good luck with this Barry. Try to step back, and take in a bigger picture. The world really is bigger than the TMO and members of this forum. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I actually think that the Cult Bros thang is healthy, and the fact that the author of this fluff piece ISN'T a member and doesn't seem to be doing any real examination of the insanity he grew up with strikes me as far less healthy. The very fact that he could refer to the made-up, non-existent Yogic Flying as the black belt of meditation indicates to me that he's never understood meditation, much less anything to do with black belts. He's written a puff piece to make money, and pooh-pooh his own history growing up as if he's all adult now, and looks back on it as if it were just silly. My point is that it's a great deal MORE than silly -- it's insanity, on a mass scale. This guy has never really dealt with that. I have more respect for his bros in Cult Bros, who at least understand and acknowledge what they were part of. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 5:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc Growing Up in Utopia https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc When your family and friends want to save the world by meditating, you can sometimes feel out of place in small-town Iow… View on medium.com https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc Preview by Yahoo I couldn't read this piece because I couldn't get past the first paragraph. Whatever the author's intention in writing it is or was, his cluelessness in that first paragraph stopped me in my tracks, and kept me from reading any further: I learned how to fly when I was 17. I’m not talking about a plane, and this isn’t some euphemism. 'Yogic flying,' which is basically meditation at the black-belt level, offers the potential of human levitation -- although in actuality it looks more like energetic, if not rather effortless, cross-legged hopping. This person (although his intention may have been to suggest the opposite) is IMO *still* suffering from the ill effects of growing up in an insane asylum. Bouncing around on one's butt and calling it 'yogic flying' is NOT 'meditation at the black belt level,' it's INSANITY at the black belt level. Try picking any town in America, walking along its streets, stopping people at random, and explaining to them, I'm doing a survey. Twice a day I bounce around on my butt on big slabs of foam, along with other people who do the same thing because we are convinced that doing this will reduce crime, affect the weather, and create world peace. What do you think of this? My bet is that you would get answers like, Uh...sounds fine to me...good luck with that... spoken over the interviewee's shoulder as they were edging away, watching you carefully and hoping that you weren't following them so that they didn't have to break into a run. See, this is the thing that makes interacting with long-term TMers on this forum so challenging -- they really have NO IDEA how insane they are, and how insane the things they believe are. For many of them, it seems as if it's been so long since they've actually talked with anyone who WASN'T indoctrinated with all of this cult nonsense they way they were that they've forgotten how these normal people think and act. They're used to interfacing with people who don't bat an eyelash when you announce to them, Sorry...got to go...it's time for me to go fly now. Hint: That's insane. No one is flying. No one has EVER flown in *any* of the TM flying halls. And no one ever will. Most people, told that this would even be *possible*, would react with either laughter or derision, and walk away. TMSPers reacted by paying several thousand dollars to learn how. Hint: That's
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
run, Barry, run. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : One of the more interesting things in this piece is his reference to a private blog group called Cult Bros which is a group of people who grew up in the Movement: for many of my friends who have left, their relationship with home is a fraught one. Somewhere on the Internet there’s a listserv or private group blog called Cult Bros, where a group of Gen-Xers and Millennials who grew up in the Movement air their grievances. I’m not a Cult Bros member myself, but I can anticipate their conversations — they’d be familiar to anyone who grew up in a community defined by certain dogma, religious or otherwise. There’s the resentment of the years spent trying to be perfect little yogis, frustrations over growing up in what can be a very socially conservative environment, anger at the time and effort and money spent working toward the unattainable goal that is world peace with very little payoff. There’s questioning of the traditions we grew up with, the means to this impossible end — the pujas, the mantras, the jai Guru Devs, the Golden Domes, the yogic flying. Questioning all of the Hindu mythology that’s wrapped up this thing we were told was not a religion. Like anyone from anywhere, the Cult Bros are trying to come to terms with their home. I had a search around but couldn't find them. I thought a good bit of writing was his insight that yogic flying is the TMO's Xenu. I did go back and read the piece in spite of my resistance to it, and would agree, except that the guy doesn't explain what a Xenu moment is, or even what Xenu was about. YOU did that, below, and that is *inclusive* writing, inviting those who don't know and assume the same esoterica that you know into the conversation and including them. As he wrote it, it's *exclusive*, meaning that it's an in joke that he wrote for himself and its probable effect among other TM cultists. Xenu being the Scientology creator god who enslaved a then extraterrestrial humanity a billion years ago and threw our souls into a volcano on Earth (or some such bollocks). The joke is that Scientologists spend decades working towards (and paying) for what is supposed to be the ultimate knowledge and is revealed to you only when you've proved yourself worthy enough. When you've reached these dizzy heights of acceptability you are taken into a room and shown this revealed Truth, written in Elrons own hand no less. A cheap sci-fi novel. Imagine how pissed off you'd be? But no, everyone is so caught up in the mind game that is cult beliefs that they accept it and even feel honoured. All their friends know and believe the great secret so why not? So much to lose if you pull out by then... I remember the first day of my TMSP course when I got the first sutra and found out that it wasn't some enigmatic sanskrit term but the word friendliness. How pissed off was I? A lot. But I stayed and got the rest and practised them for ten years. This is a good point, and I've brought it up before. Can you *believe* that there are still people on this forum who believe that the TMSP is an ancient technique once taught by Patanjali? They say this to strangers who have never learned it, just parroting the same sales pitches that worked on them, but more interestingly they say it to others who *have* learned the TM siddhis. And no one corrects them. Because it's easier to pretend that it's some esoteric, age-old knowledge that they paid thousands of dollars for than it is to admit that they paid all that money for a bunch of phrases in English (or their native language) that they could have gotten -- verbatim -- from a $4.95 paperback version of the Yoga Sutras. (That, after all, is probably where *Maharishi* got the English phrases he sold for thousands of dollars.) The Xenu thang worked because the $cientologists wisely kept it hidden until the students were so far gone into the cult that they wouldn't freak out at how tacky this final revelation was. The TM movement similarly tried to keep the reality of what the TMSP really was secret by telling people What we learn in private we keep private and creating a kind of myth about the Bad Things that would happen to you if you revealed your mantra or (even worse) the oh-so-secret flying sutra, which is just a load of bollocks about how light cotton fiber is. In English. That's the way it works. You, me and Xenu. I still wish that this guy had written a somewhat ballsier piece, dealing with the real meat of the cognitive dissonance that his more honest Cult Bro friends are dealing with. A better article would have been less fluffy and less Weren't we silly to believe this stuff? An honest article would be more real, more along the lines of,Weren't we
Re: [FairfieldLife] A few pics.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/29/2014 9:00 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: You can always count on bawee to post someone else's photo. Wasn't he the guy poking everyone with a stick to post something that indicated they were skilled in something? Today we have seen some nice work and apparently many here really enjoy and pursue the photographic genre. So, it appears we have some creativity here after all. I never doubted it. It sure looks like Barry is a poser. But why do you suppose he can't learn to use the camera on his iPhone? He has the perfect opportunity to take some interesting snaps of the neighborhood and post them to the group to try and make himself look special. Instead, he cops a photo from a Reuters photographer. Years ago I was a fan, and it's kind of sad to watch a guy go slowly down the tubes over the years. This guy seems to have zero creative talent and almost nothing to report anymore. Go figure. Rita and the family dog at the local coffee hangout. I don't know if I'd call her the family dog she looks quite beautiful in her leather jacket.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Orwhat you are saying, is that he isn't reacting the way, I think he should be reacting. For most people who aren't obsessed with finding cult tendencies, his piece is just a reflection, a writing exercise of sorts, dealing with a piece of his growing up. Obviously, you miss this, because you are so invested in your own particular mindset, that you miss any nuance of what his purpose in writing this piece might be. And, of course we've seen many of examples of this, (missing nuance) on your part, especially over the past few month. perhaps coinciding with end of you technical writing gig at BB. Good luck with this Barry. Try to step back, and take in a bigger picture. The world really is bigger than the TMO and members of this forum. Steve, I'm sure you have something much better to do, like de-fleaing the cat, than responding to or even reading bawee's mind loops here. He only participates to hear himself talk and to see others respond to him because there are only two or three people who seem to like him and his life seems to consist of lonely trips to his drinking venues and back home again. I give you an A for effort and compassion here but I think your cat needs some attention. Don't you hear it meowing for you?
[FairfieldLife] Looking for an Xmas gift for your favorite astrologer or Jyotishi?
How about a watch that displays the position of the six planets visible from the Earth, in real time. A bargain at only $250,000. Van Cleef Arpels Complication Poétique Midnight Planétarium Van Cleef Arpels Complication Poétique Midnight Planét... View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
On 10/30/2014 4:46 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I couldn't read this piece because I couldn't get past the first paragraph. Whatever the author's intention in writing it is or was, his cluelessness in that first paragraph stopped me in my tracks, and kept me from reading any further: I learned how to fly when I was 17. I’m not talking about a plane, and this isn’t some euphemism. 'Yogic flying,' which is basically meditation at the black-belt level, offers the potential of human levitation -- although in actuality it looks more like energetic, if not rather effortless, cross-legged hopping. The guy just can't compare to your eloquent and interesting introduction, Barry. LoL! / //What I'm talking about is slowly lifting up off the sofa and sitting// //in midair for two to three minutes. Or stepping up off the ground in// //the desert and then flying around several feet above the ground for // //a while. /- TurquoiseB http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/143231
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/30/2014 4:46 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I couldn't read this piece because I couldn't get past the first paragraph. Whatever the author's intention in writing it is or was, his cluelessness in that first paragraph stopped me in my tracks, and kept me from reading any further: I learned how to fly when I was 17. I’m not talking about a plane, and this isn’t some euphemism. 'Yogic flying,' which is basically meditation at the black-belt level, offers the potential of human levitation -- although in actuality it looks more like energetic, if not rather effortless, cross-legged hopping. The guy just can't compare to your eloquent and interesting introduction, Barry. LoL! I'd say, for a guy who thinks Fritz the Cat is brilliant and who wrote Roadtrip Mind or whatever the name of bawee's Rama fluff piece was really doesn't hold the highest literary credibility with me. What I'm talking about is slowly lifting up off the sofa and sitting in midair for two to three minutes. Or stepping up off the ground in the desert and then flying around several feet above the ground for a while. - TurquoiseB http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/143231 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/143231
[FairfieldLife] Re: Looking for an Xmas gift for your favorite astrologer or Jyotishi?
I don't know Barry. Van Cleef Arpels sounds like a Belgium company, so since right now, everything is perfect about Belgium, can't you give it a pass? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : How about a watch that displays the position of the six planets visible from the Earth, in real time. A bargain at only $250,000. Van Cleef Arpels Complication Poétique Midnight Planétarium https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUtUDSltl-M#t=55 Van Cleef Arpels Complication Poétique Midnight Planét... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUtUDSltl-M#t=55 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUtUDSltl-M#t=55 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
On 10/30/2014 4:46 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: To these people I say, GET OVER IT. Wake the fuck up, take a look around at international standards for sanity, shake yourself, and realize that if you actually believe that bouncing on your butt can be called 'flying' and that performing this bouncing is creating world peace...uh...you're INSANE. You're NOT special or more evolved or 10,000 X more powerful than lesser people, you're INSANE. It looks like Barry got his buttons pushed. Go figure. It's starting to look like Barry has got a real bad case of cognitive dissonance. I sometimes wonder what's going on in his mind - does he really think anyone is going to take him seriously after he posted numerous claims to having witnessed a guy levitate at a Denny's Restaurant in L.A., and nobody but him noticed it? Now, that's insane. / //I've seen someone levitate. Many times. In many settings, from the Los Angeles // //Convention Center to the Anza-Borrego Desert to a Denny's restaurant in the wee // //hours of the night./ - TurquoiseB Subject: TM is a Cult? Author: TurquoiseB Group: Yahoo Fairfieldife Date: Friday, 23 May 2014 http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg317597.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
On 10/30/2014 4:46 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: That's insane. No one is flying. No one has EVER flown in *any* of the TM flying halls. And no one ever will. Nobody could ever compare to your teacher and his accomplishments, Barry. You win for the amount of time and money anyone on FFL has ever spent on learning how to fly. You win the debate - you are just an awesome seeker; so old and so wise and experienced in spiritual pursuits! /Just to be clear, this wasn't in a TM context. The person levitating or flying through the air was a guy named Frederick Lenz, who also called himself Rama. He taught a hodge-podge of things from different traditions, but the majority of them were Buddhist. He didn't teach how to do this stuff directly; he just did it. As far as I know, none of his students ever developed the knack./// http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/143231
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
On 10/30/2014 4:46 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: 99% OR MORE OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET ARE GOING TO CONSIDER YOU A NUT CASE IF YOU TELL THEM YOU BELIEVE THAT BOUNCING ON YOUR BUTT IS 'FLYING' AND THAT IT'S 'THE BLACK BELT OF MEDITATION'. It is now official - the FFL science writer-reporter has declared himself to be insane. He got his buttons pushed today and now he is lashing out at his imagined enemies. Obviously this guy is afflicted with chronic cognitive dissonance. BARRY WRIGHT IS a nutcase. Rama had a black belt in karate. Go figure. /Suffice it to say that over an extended number of years I witnessed almost every siddhi described by Patanjali and quite a few that were not./ - Uncle Tantra https://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.meditation.transcendental/UcdGW9pnVpI/discussion
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
Yes, Ann, I am indulging. But, does it strike anyone else as hilarious that you've got three people here, going through the little writing exercise this guy did as though it's a pilfered document from Area 51. Their musing run along the lines of: What do you think he meant by this? I think he said this, but really means this And the Cult Bros, I've looked into it, but I haven't found anything Who wants to be on the other side of this bet: that Michael has already contacted this guy, trying to suss out more information about the CBs, and fishing out any other insights. And yet, others here, are the cult obsessed? Hooboy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Orwhat you are saying, is that he isn't reacting the way, I think he should be reacting. For most people who aren't obsessed with finding cult tendencies, his piece is just a reflection, a writing exercise of sorts, dealing with a piece of his growing up. Obviously, you miss this, because you are so invested in your own particular mindset, that you miss any nuance of what his purpose in writing this piece might be. And, of course we've seen many of examples of this, (missing nuance) on your part, especially over the past few month. perhaps coinciding with end of you technical writing gig at BB. Good luck with this Barry. Try to step back, and take in a bigger picture. The world really is bigger than the TMO and members of this forum. Steve, I'm sure you have something much better to do, like de-fleaing the cat, than responding to or even reading bawee's mind loops here. He only participates to hear himself talk and to see others respond to him because there are only two or three people who seem to like him and his life seems to consist of lonely trips to his drinking venues and back home again. I give you an A for effort and compassion here but I think your cat needs some attention. Don't you hear it meowing for you?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Elsewhere in SKYNET News
On 10/30/2014 5:00 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Old news, in one respect. I once read that Elvis' idea of fun was inviting friends over to his estate, issuing each of them an enormous bulldozer, and then having big dinosaur battles as they rammed them into one another until only one was left still running. On the front lawn of Graceland? I guess somebody would have noticed this, right? /Last Train to Memphis: The Rise of Elvis Presley/ by Peter Guralnick Little, Brown and Company, Dec 1, 2014 /Careless Love: The Unmaking of Elvis Presley/ by Peter Guralnick Little, Brown and Company, Dec 20, 2012
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
On 10/30/2014 6:42 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:57 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM Ethnography. Om no that first paragraph was really fine. It gave a lot of information to get going and you see it is an article where you the reader get to roll up your sleeves up to work with it. You're being way too cranky and hard-minded. No, I'm being realistic, because at one point in my life I was as insane as the people in Fairfield who believe that by bouncing on their butts they are flying. But in my case this delusion only lasted for about a year. Lasted about a year? Maybe you could explain to us why your autobiography is still up on your Rama Lenz site: /Anyway, if you're interested, I wrote some stuff about the fellow and what it // //was like to study with him in a book that's on the Web.../ - TurquoiseB Accessed on October 30, 2014 http://www.ramalila.net/RoadTripMind I regained my sanity and left long before the TMO started claiming that by bouncing on my butt I could create world peace, which is actually a more troubling level of insanity than believing it could make them fly. I'm presenting on this forum (that was *created* to discuss alternative views of TM, BTW) a different point of view on the insanity TM dome goers are living with on a daily basis, because it appears they're not likely to ever get that point of view from within Fairfield itself. There is too much effort being expended by people like you to candy coat this insanity and try to present it as if it were normal. It isn't. It never was. It never will be. What it is is insanity. If you can admit that, you might become sane someday. If you can't, you probably never will. As written it is actually an important article in ethnography about the group of meditators having come to live in Fairfield, Iowa. For those of us who live here in FF the writing captures things that we all live with. Things that are very familiar. Writing like this is an important adjunct to journalism by outside writers or in scholarly papers written by people who have not lived it. This article is worth a bookmark, like that article that Donna Schill Cleveland should have one. These are important voices that should be cultivated for the perspective they have. turquoiseb wrote : *From:* Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc image https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc Growing Up in Utopia https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc When your family and friends want to save the world by meditating, you can sometimes feel out of place in small-town Iow… View on medium.com https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc Preview by Yahoo I couldn't read this piece because I couldn't get past the first paragraph. Whatever the author's intention in writing it is or was, his cluelessness in that first paragraph stopped me in my tracks, and kept me from reading any further: I learned how to fly when I was 17. I’m not talking about a plane, and this isn’t some euphemism. 'Yogic flying,' which is basically meditation at the black-belt level, offers the potential of human levitation -- although in actuality it looks more like energetic, if not rather effortless, cross-legged hopping. This person (although his intention may have been to suggest the opposite) is IMO *still* suffering from the ill effects of growing up in an insane asylum. Bouncing around on one's butt and calling it 'yogic flying' is NOT 'meditation at the black belt level,' it's INSANITY at the black belt level. Try picking any town in America, walking along its streets, stopping people at random, and explaining to them, I'm doing a survey. Twice a day I bounce around on my butt on big slabs of foam, along with other people who do the same thing because we are convinced that doing this will reduce crime, affect the weather, and create world peace. What do you think of this? My bet is that you would get answers like, Uh...sounds fine to me...good luck with that... spoken over the interviewee's shoulder as they were edging away, watching you carefully and hoping that you weren't following them so that they didn't have to break into a run. See, this is the thing that makes interacting with long-term TMers on this forum so challenging -- they really have NO IDEA how insane they are, and how insane the things they believe are. For many of them, it seems as if it's been so long since they've actually talked with anyone who WASN'T indoctrinated with all of this cult nonsense they way they
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
On 10/30/2014 6:55 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Barry, what are you going to do about this?! People are still bouncing on their butts on foam with this misguided notion that they are doing something positive for the world. This is a national, nay, a global scourge, and your efforts to enlist the LR, evidently is not paying off. Again, you've got to do more. It's either them or you, and they seem to be winning, at least in the area of driving you bat shit crazy P.S. I did get to at least the second paragraph of you manifesto. /Barry's full manifesto can be found here:// // //http://www.ramalila.net/RoadTripMind/ Hey good people of the Netherlands, if you see some guy frantically pacing back and forth in one one your cafes, muttering something along the lines, they're not listening to me. WTF are they not listening to me? My LR are letting me down. Buy him a beer or something. Put in on our tab, or just do it as a Good Samaritan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : *From:* Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc image https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc Growing Up in Utopia https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc When your family and friends want to save the world by meditating, you can sometimes feel out of place in small-town Iow… View on medium.com https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc Preview by Yahoo I couldn't read this piece because I couldn't get past the first paragraph. Whatever the author's intention in writing it is or was, his cluelessness in that first paragraph stopped me in my tracks, and kept me from reading any further: I learned how to fly when I was 17. I’m not talking about a plane, and this isn’t some euphemism. 'Yogic flying,' which is basically meditation at the black-belt level, offers the potential of human levitation -- although in actuality it looks more like energetic, if not rather effortless, cross-legged hopping. This person (although his intention may have been to suggest the opposite) is IMO *still* suffering from the ill effects of growing up in an insane asylum. Bouncing around on one's butt and calling it 'yogic flying' is NOT 'meditation at the black belt level,' it's INSANITY at the black belt level. Try picking any town in America, walking along its streets, stopping people at random, and explaining to them, I'm doing a survey. Twice a day I bounce around on my butt on big slabs of foam, along with other people who do the same thing because we are convinced that doing this will reduce crime, affect the weather, and create world peace. What do you think of this? My bet is that you would get answers like, Uh...sounds fine to me...good luck with that... spoken over the interviewee's shoulder as they were edging away, watching you carefully and hoping that you weren't following them so that they didn't have to break into a run. See, this is the thing that makes interacting with long-term TMers on this forum so challenging -- they really have NO IDEA how insane they are, and how insane the things they believe are. For many of them, it seems as if it's been so long since they've actually talked with anyone who WASN'T indoctrinated with all of this cult nonsense they way they were that they've forgotten how these normal people think and act. They're used to interfacing with people who don't bat an eyelash when you announce to them, Sorry...got to go...it's time for me to go fly now. Hint: That's insane. No one is flying. No one has EVER flown in *any* of the TM flying halls. And no one ever will. Most people, told that this would even be *possible*, would react with either laughter or derision, and walk away. TMSPers reacted by paying several thousand dollars to learn how. Hint: That's insane. And it's as insane now as it was when you first paid those thousands of dollars. The only reason people on this forum and around you in Fairfield don't think so is that you live in an enormous insane asylum, in which the residents are reinforcing their shared delusions by pretending that they're saving the world instead of acting out less-than-sane fantasies. Some of these inmates who post to this forum get upset when I or Michael or Salyavin or Curtis point out HOW far away from mainstream definitions of sanity they are to believe that there actually IS such a thing as the 'Maharishi Effect.' I imagine that inmates in mental hospitals feel the same way when doctors and nurses point out that they're not *really* Napoleon or Jesus Christ. To these people I say, GET OVER IT. Wake the fuck up, take a look around at international standards for sanity, shake yourself, and realize
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Elsewhere in SKYNET News
On 10/30/2014 7:05 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: First the butt bouncers, and now this! Where do you think Barry gets these stories? If this is an example of his science reporting, he should maybe take a reality check. Go figure. /Elvis Presley: A Southern Life/ by Joel Williamson Oxford University Press; 1 edition, November 13, 2014 Barry, you've got work to do son. Start an institute or something. The BW Institute of How I Can Set The World Wright If only they would listen to me. Why, ferchristsakes is the world not beating a path to my door LRs, LRs, Heed My Call! Double down on your efforts to spread the world. A back page mention of Doug Hamilton in Wine Spectator, (or whatever it was) is not sufficient. Not Sufficient I Tell You! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Old news, in one respect. I once read that Elvis' idea of fun was inviting friends over to his estate, issuing each of them an enormous bulldozer, and then having big dinosaur battles as they rammed them into one another until only one was left still running. But as crazy as that might have been, at least the bulldozers weren't doing this on their own. These guys want to build robots to do the same thing, and given the popularity of drones it's just a matter of time before they take the human pilots out of the equation. What could go wrong with an idea like that? :-) Startup wants to raise $1.8 million to build giant fighting robots http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/29/megabots-kickstarter/?ncid=rss_truncated image http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/29/megabots-kickstarter/?ncid=rss_truncated Startup wants to raise $1.8 million to build giant fight... http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/29/megabots-kickstarter/?ncid=rss_truncated The folks at MegaBots Inc. dream of making humongous machines: 15-foot-tall, 15,000-pound piloted robots to be exact. And they don't want to build them View on www.engadget.com http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/29/megabots-kickstarter/?ncid=rss_truncated Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
On 10/30/2014 7:31 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: One of the more interesting things in this piece is his reference to a private blog group called Cult Bros which is a group of people who grew up in the Movement: /There is no group on the internet called Cult Bros. If there was, you would probably be it's moderator. Apparently you grew up in the cult and then got kicked out after twelve years. Now you're just upset at the rejection. According to Barry, you were insane. It looks like you are still pretty nutty. Go figure./ for many of my friends who have left, their relationship with home is a fraught one. Somewhere on the Internet there’s a listserv or private group blog called Cult Bros, where a group of Gen-Xers and Millennials who grew up in the Movement air their grievances. I’m not a Cult Bros member myself, but I can anticipate their conversations — they’d be familiar to anyone who grew up in a community defined by certain dogma, religious or otherwise. There’s the resentment of the years spent trying to be perfect little yogis, frustrations over growing up in what can be a very socially conservative environment, anger at the time and effort and money spent working toward the unattainable goal that is world peace with very little payoff. There’s questioning of the traditions we grew up with, the means to this impossible end — the pujas, the mantras, the /jai Guru Devs, /the Golden Domes, the yogic flying. Questioning all of the Hindu mythology that’s wrapped up this thing we were told was not a religion. Like anyone from anywhere, the Cult Bros are trying to come to terms with their home. *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 5:46 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM *From:* Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc image https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc Growing Up in Utopia https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc When your family and friends want to save the world by meditating, you can sometimes feel out of place in small-town Iow… View on medium.com https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc Preview by Yahoo I couldn't read this piece because I couldn't get past the first paragraph. Whatever the author's intention in writing it is or was, his cluelessness in that first paragraph stopped me in my tracks, and kept me from reading any further: I learned how to fly when I was 17. I’m not talking about a plane, and this isn’t some euphemism. 'Yogic flying,' which is basically meditation at the black-belt level, offers the potential of human levitation -- although in actuality it looks more like energetic, if not rather effortless, cross-legged hopping. This person (although his intention may have been to suggest the opposite) is IMO *still* suffering from the ill effects of growing up in an insane asylum. Bouncing around on one's butt and calling it 'yogic flying' is NOT 'meditation at the black belt level,' it's INSANITY at the black belt level. Try picking any town in America, walking along its streets, stopping people at random, and explaining to them, I'm doing a survey. Twice a day I bounce around on my butt on big slabs of foam, along with other people who do the same thing because we are convinced that doing this will reduce crime, affect the weather, and create world peace. What do you think of this? My bet is that you would get answers like, Uh...sounds fine to me...good luck with that... spoken over the interviewee's shoulder as they were edging away, watching you carefully and hoping that you weren't following them so that they didn't have to break into a run. See, this is the thing that makes interacting with long-term TMers on this forum so challenging -- they really have NO IDEA how insane they are, and how insane the things they believe are. For many of them, it seems as if it's been so long since they've actually talked with anyone who WASN'T indoctrinated with all of this cult nonsense they way they were that they've forgotten how these normal people think and act. They're used to interfacing with people who don't bat an eyelash when you announce to them, Sorry...got to go...it's time for me to go fly now. Hint: That's insane. No one is flying. No one has EVER flown in *any* of the TM flying halls. And no one ever will. Most people, told that this would even be *possible*, would react with either laughter or derision, and walk away. TMSPers reacted by paying several
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Might as well eat your heart out Nabby, your limited opinion about the nature of art does not count: Curtis Blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Curtis Blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. His musical programs integrat... View on artsfairfax.org http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Preview by Yahoo Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. Note that the link goes to the Arts Council of Fairfax County, Virginia. Curtis is a recognised artist, and you just have a bee in your bonnet. Wake up. I do not see why Curtis needs to change his view to support your myopic view of the world. I think Curtis is an artist, and I normally do not listen to blues music, though I have a certain fondness for Billie Holiday. == ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You claim you produce art. I claim you produce noise and that your ego is out of control. It's not complicated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's obvious by now that you won't change M: You mean adapt a non native English speakers' misuse of the word for my job title in every organizations that books my shows? That was never on the table. What you need to do if you want to use English is to brush up on the adjectives. That let's you apply whatever personal standards you want to personalize a generic word like art. For example you could say that is groundbreaking art or shitty art, or even life changing, mind boggling, awesomenest ever art. But you don't get to miss-appropriate a generic term for a human activity as if your taste is the definition of the word. Again, that is where adjectives allow you to personalize your feelings about the activity. N:will continue to try to convince yourself by saying, dammit: I'm an artist, I'm an artist, I'm an artist, I'm an artist forever till you pop. M: Actually, just like Maharishi claimed, I didn't name myself that, this is how the arts groups refer to me as so people know what I do when they want to hire me. N: Good luck with that. M: Having excellent luck with that, thanks. N: This discussion has hereby ended from my side. M: This discussion was never open from YOUR side. We both know that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : What is art and what isn't always is a hot theme and will probably never end. M: Popular among people who don't produce any. Most of my social life is with artists and the topic has never come up. N: And there will always be greedy persons who try to capitalize on that word to make a living, happens everywhere. M: I know those artists raking in the cash, big problem. I share your disdain for people trying to make a living. I mean why aren't they just eating brioche? I think the problem is a lack of a central control over the use of the term to describe this human activity. I'm thinking something along the lines of a re-certification course that they can pay for to use the word art. (Patent Pending) N: My statement about your music is my personal and passionate opinion after having seen the videos you posted. M: Gosh Nabs, I don't know how to tell you this but... inspiring people to personal passionate feelings IS the goal of my art. Just say'n... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/curtisblues2 ♫ Well Worn Blues - Curtis Blues. Listen @cdbaby http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/curtisblues2 Click to listen at CDBaby View on www.cdbaby.com http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/curtisblues2 Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : That's what Cartier-Bresson said of his work during numerous interviews. Ofcourse his work is artistic, he simply had other and higher ideas about what art is, ideas he tried to fulfill late in life, nothing of which came close to much of what he produced with a camera. The work of Edward Steichen is wonderful and is reaching astronomical prices these days. Calling Curtis an amateur musician is just like calling yourself a non-professional photographer. If he makes a living from it he obviously is a professional, is's his claim that he creates art that piss me off. In my ears it's mostly noise and believe me, I like much music that by many is considered noise or weird Collection of sounds. Again, and for the last time;
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Hmmm. Now that it's been proven that Nabby knosw nothing whatsoever about Curtis, I think it's safe to assume that he similarly knows nothing about Maitreya, the Space Brothers, and who created crop circles, and that we can ignore him as the posturing know-nothing he is. Oh. Wait. Everybody ALREADY assumed that. Never mind. :-) From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness Might as well eat your heart out Nabby, your limited opinion about the nature of art does not count: Curtis Blues Curtis Blues Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. His musical programs integrat... View on artsfairfax.org Preview by Yahoo Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. Note that the link goes to the Arts Council of Fairfax County, Virginia. Curtis is a recognised artist, and you just have a bee in your bonnet. Wake up. I do not see why Curtis needs to change his view to support your myopic view of the world. I think Curtis is an artist, and I normally do not listen to blues music, though I have a certain fondness for Billie Holiday. == ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You claim you produce art. I claim you produce noise and that your ego is out of control. It's not complicated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's obvious by now that you won't change M: You mean adapt a non native English speakers' misuse of the word for my job title in every organizations that books my shows? That was never on the table. What you need to do if you want to use English is to brush up on the adjectives. That let's you apply whatever personal standards you want to personalize a generic word like art. For example you could say that is groundbreaking art or shitty art, or even life changing, mind boggling, awesomenest ever art. But you don't get to miss-appropriate a generic term for a human activity as if your taste is the definition of the word. Again, that is where adjectives allow you to personalize your feelings about the activity. N:will continue to try to convince yourself by saying, dammit: I'm an artist, I'm an artist, I'm an artist, I'm an artist forever till you pop. M: Actually, just like Maharishi claimed, I didn't name myself that, this is how the arts groups refer to me as so people know what I do when they want to hire me. N: Good luck with that. M: Having excellent luck with that, thanks. N: This discussion has hereby ended from my side. M: This discussion was never open from YOUR side. We both know that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : What is art and what isn't always is a hot theme and will probably never end. M: Popular among people who don't produce any. Most of my social life is with artists and the topic has never come up. N: And there will always be greedy persons who try to capitalize on that word to make a living, happens everywhere. M: I know those artists raking in the cash, big problem. I share your disdain for people trying to make a living. I mean why aren't they just eating brioche? I think the problem is a lack of a central control over the use of the term to describe this human activity. I'm thinking something along the lines of a re-certification course that they can pay for to use the word art. (Patent Pending) N: My statement about your music is my personal and passionate opinion after having seen the videos you posted. M: Gosh Nabs, I don't know how to tell you this but... inspiring people to personal passionate feelings IS the goal of my art. Just say'n... ♫ Well Worn Blues - Curtis Blues. Listen @cdbaby Click to listen at CDBaby View on www.cdbaby.com Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : That's what Cartier-Bresson said of his work during numerous interviews. Ofcourse his work is artistic, he simply had other and higher ideas about what art is, ideas he tried to fulfill late in life, nothing of which came close to much of what he produced with a camera. The work of Edward Steichen is wonderful and is reaching astronomical prices these days. Calling Curtis an amateur musician is just like calling yourself a non-professional photographer. If he makes a living from it he obviously is a
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Mental Health, Hating, Turq, and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Richard and everyone, my computer stopped working last night. I had 174 emails
when I got to the public library this morning! Will try to catch up at some
point. Have fun AND be good (-:
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Mental Health, Hating, Turq, and Belief
in God is a form of mental illness
On 10/29/2014 8:51 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
You may not realize this, Michael, but this likely says more about your
upbringing than anything else.
Obviously he is prejudiced. He was probably born into a traditional southern
family that hated blacks and minorities of all kinds. Let's not forget that
S.C. was the location of the first rebellion in the Civil War. He has a lot of
baggage to work through. He appears to be almost retarded at times. He's so
transparent - posting with the alias of a dead black entertainer tells you a
lot about his present mind-set. Go figure.
I don't think this would have popped into anyone elses head as an
illustration of a traditional family.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Try this on for size for what traditional Indian families are like:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-29708612
From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Mental Health, Hating, Turq, and Belief
in God is a form of mental illness
Share, ever been to India? Hard to imagine that Maharishi didn't have
to avoid beggars growing up. So what is a traditional Indian family?
On 10/29/2014 11:20 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Nablusoss, all those good habits can definitely help, but if a person has
experienced severe trauma in childhood, more than good habits will be needed,
even if they're regular with TMSP. Because Maharishi came from a traditional
and stable Indian family, he probably wasn't aware of ow dysfunctional
families can be in less traditional countries.
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[FairfieldLife] today's sunrise [1 Attachment]
Looks like rain either today or tomorrow. I'll miss it, as I am off for a sedation dentistry appointment - two crowns and a root canal. Three hours and lots of drugs. I'll be back on line, in my altered state of consciousness, later on today, or tomorrow. I've always been the complete chicken regarding dental visits, and this new approach should work wonders. AND Yay Giants! Three World Series in five years! Yay Madison Baumgartner - Hard to believe a 25 year old can pitch like that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
What happened to the guy who said that the conversation was over from your side? I guess you are seeking some closure you haven't gotten yet. Let's see if I can help. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You claim you produce art. M: I claim that my music is my art. I make living as a musical artist. Because you erroneously conflate this with me saying I make life changing, ground breaking, masterful, mind blowing, art you have contrived something to criticize me for beyond offering your personal opinion about a video you saw. I simply say that this is MY art. It is how I represent my inner life into a form of sound that is shared with others. The people who pay me to perform it and who buy my CDs like it, I acknowledge that you have weighed in that you don't like the videos you saw of my performance, and most people say : Who? N: I claim you produce noise M: What aspect of this point do you think I have missed? I get it, you have an unfavorable opinion about a video you saw. Check. Message received. You seem to be looking for a different outcome than me recognizing your opinion. Do you think perhaps I might use your opinion to stop working in this field? Do you think with your feedback I will change my musical focus, take up the violin perhaps? I have enjoyed this chat as a writing prompt for considering this public job I do. What you don't seem to realize, as you strive to influence me with your opinion, is that before I ever stand in front of other people to judge my art, I have already spent countless hours passing the audition of my toughest critic, me. Any performing artist spends 99 per cent of his or her time alone mastering their art to their own satisfaction. I play the way I like, that is why I am at peace with people who don't like it. Of course I don't usually hear from them so this has been a bit of an opportunity for reflection and I thank you for that. And despite your persistently curmudgeonly view of my work, I get a lot of positive feedback because I put on excellent shows. I work hard at it like most conscientious people in their jobs and I get the job done. Performing is a weird line of work in that your job performance review is simultaneous to you doing the job. But even if audiences took your POV and rejected my music, I would still be playing it this way. I would just not be getting paid for it! Like most people with a desire to express themselves through art, I would only perform for myself and whatever girlfriend I was torturing with my music at the time. The positive or negative feedback from other people doesn't change an artist's need to express their inner life the way they do. You don't seem to understand this fact about artists. So instead you are caught up in a world of thinking your harsh statements should affect me in some way. Art doesn't come from that place you can reach with your words. It isn't sustained by people appreciating what an artist produces. Artists live in the world beyond all the rise and fall of outer opinions. Many great artists were only appreciate after their death, Robert Johnson included. He was not popular in his day. He was struggling till the day he died. That is one of the many reasons I devote my life to bringing the gift of the arts into schools. It is a gift of self expression that can infuse a life with meaning and beauty. So I accept your opinion, but reject your view of art as an elitist activity for a certain few who are deemed (who deems them again, you?) worthy of using the word art. You are on the wrong side of the hater fence Nabbie. Not about my music, you are welcome to your judgement, but about the concept of how the activity of producing art at any level enriches the human spirit. It exists way beyond the ability for you to influence. It would enrich your own life if you could step out of the judgmental cage of your greatness-or-nothing view. N: and that your ego is out of control. It's not complicated. M: Here you are just being silly and trying to be mean. It is complicated. I have a realistic view of where my artistic contributions fit into the history of my genre. Do you know who is the most humble concerning their own musical talent and Robert Johnson's greatness? The guy who plays his music every day with respect and wonder that such an artist might be forgotten in this generation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Might as well eat your heart out Nabby, your limited opinion about the nature of art does not count: Curtis Blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Curtis Blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. His musical programs integrat... View on artsfairfax.org http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Preview by Yahoo Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. Note that the link goes to the Arts Council of Fairfax County, Virginia. Curtis is a recognised artist, and you just have a bee in your bonnet. Wake up. I do not see why Curtis needs to change his view to support your myopic view of the world. I think Curtis is an artist, and I normally do not listen to blues music, though I have a certain fondness for Billie Holiday. Cool, nice find. Curtis is, of course, an artist. Whether Nabby likes his music or not is Nabby's business. Nabby might hate all Blues music, not just Curtis'. But Curtis passionately pursues his art and this has resulted in his passion spilling over into many aspects of his life including his teaching and this is great. I also love the fact that his preferred musical genre is a sort of step into the past where he then becomes a sort of preserver of rare and beautiful things - a curator of sorts. This music is very much worth preserving and promoting as it speaks so much to history and the human condition. Curtis' preferred style of blues reveal much about life and human beings and their perpetual struggles as well as their small victories. Music as real life.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
Barry, you are always in conflict. On the one hand, you want to be the rebel, telling everyone who will listen, about how Lenz levitated and YOU SAW IT. On the other, you are a suck up to authority, denigrating yogic fliers (aka the black belt of meditation), because people on the street would find it absurd. I don't know if you are aware how incoherent your thinking is. Probably not. I sincerely hope that you get over it. Have you played with Maya today? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/30/2014 6:42 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM Ethnography. Om no that first paragraph was really fine. It gave a lot of information to get going and you see it is an article where you the reader get to roll up your sleeves up to work with it. You're being way too cranky and hard-minded. No, I'm being realistic, because at one point in my life I was as insane as the people in Fairfield who believe that by bouncing on their butts they are flying. But in my case this delusion only lasted for about a year. Lasted about a year? Maybe you could explain to us why your autobiography is still up on your Rama Lenz site: Anyway, if you're interested, I wrote some stuff about the fellow and what it was like to study with him in a book that's on the Web... - TurquoiseB Accessed on October 30, 2014 http://www.ramalila.net/RoadTripMind http://www.ramalila.net/RoadTripMind I regained my sanity and left long before the TMO started claiming that by bouncing on my butt I could create world peace, which is actually a more troubling level of insanity than believing it could make them fly. I'm presenting on this forum (that was *created* to discuss alternative views of TM, BTW) a different point of view on the insanity TM dome goers are living with on a daily basis, because it appears they're not likely to ever get that point of view from within Fairfield itself. There is too much effort being expended by people like you to candy coat this insanity and try to present it as if it were normal. It isn't. It never was. It never will be. What it is is insanity. If you can admit that, you might become sane someday. If you can't, you probably never will. As written it is actually an important article in ethnography about the group of meditators having come to live in Fairfield, Iowa. For those of us who live here in FF the writing captures things that we all live with. Things that are very familiar. Writing like this is an important adjunct to journalism by outside writers or in scholarly papers written by people who have not lived it. This article is worth a bookmark, like that article that Donna Schill Cleveland should have one. These are important voices that should be cultivated for the perspective they have. turquoiseb wrote : From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc https://medium.com/the-archipelago/growing-up-in-utopia-8102f58dfcbc Growing Up in Utopia When your family and friends want to save the world by meditating, you can sometimes feel out of place in small-town Iow… View on medium.com Preview by Yahoo I couldn't read this piece because I couldn't get past the first paragraph. Whatever the author's intention in writing it is or was, his cluelessness in that first paragraph stopped me in my tracks, and kept me from reading any further: I learned how to fly when I was 17. I’m not talking about a plane, and this isn’t some euphemism. 'Yogic flying,' which is basically meditation at the black-belt level, offers the potential of human levitation -- although in actuality it looks more like energetic, if not rather effortless, cross-legged hopping. This person (although his intention may have been to suggest the opposite) is IMO *still* suffering from the ill effects of growing up in an insane asylum. Bouncing around on one's butt and calling it 'yogic flying' is NOT 'meditation at the black belt level,' it's INSANITY at the black belt level. Try picking any town in America, walking along its streets, stopping people at random, and explaining to them, I'm doing a survey. Twice a day I bounce around on my butt on big slabs of foam, along with other people who do the same thing because we are convinced that doing this will reduce crime, affect the weather, and create world peace. What
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Ha ha ha ha! Certified Arts Integration performer!!! That's better than being a RE-certified Governor!!! From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness Might as well eat your heart out Nabby, your limited opinion about the nature of art does not count: Curtis Blues Curtis Blues Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. His musical programs integrat... View on artsfairfax.org Preview by Yahoo Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. Note that the link goes to the Arts Council of Fairfax County, Virginia. Curtis is a recognised artist, and you just have a bee in your bonnet. Wake up. I do not see why Curtis needs to change his view to support your myopic view of the world. I think Curtis is an artist, and I normally do not listen to blues music, though I have a certain fondness for Billie Holiday. == ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You claim you produce art. I claim you produce noise and that your ego is out of control. It's not complicated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's obvious by now that you won't change M: You mean adapt a non native English speakers' misuse of the word for my job title in every organizations that books my shows? That was never on the table. What you need to do if you want to use English is to brush up on the adjectives. That let's you apply whatever personal standards you want to personalize a generic word like art. For example you could say that is groundbreaking art or shitty art, or even life changing, mind boggling, awesomenest ever art. But you don't get to miss-appropriate a generic term for a human activity as if your taste is the definition of the word. Again, that is where adjectives allow you to personalize your feelings about the activity. N:will continue to try to convince yourself by saying, dammit: I'm an artist, I'm an artist, I'm an artist, I'm an artist forever till you pop. M: Actually, just like Maharishi claimed, I didn't name myself that, this is how the arts groups refer to me as so people know what I do when they want to hire me. N: Good luck with that. M: Having excellent luck with that, thanks. N: This discussion has hereby ended from my side. M: This discussion was never open from YOUR side. We both know that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : What is art and what isn't always is a hot theme and will probably never end. M: Popular among people who don't produce any. Most of my social life is with artists and the topic has never come up. N: And there will always be greedy persons who try to capitalize on that word to make a living, happens everywhere. M: I know those artists raking in the cash, big problem. I share your disdain for people trying to make a living. I mean why aren't they just eating brioche? I think the problem is a lack of a central control over the use of the term to describe this human activity. I'm thinking something along the lines of a re-certification course that they can pay for to use the word art. (Patent Pending) N: My statement about your music is my personal and passionate opinion after having seen the videos you posted. M: Gosh Nabs, I don't know how to tell you this but... inspiring people to personal passionate feelings IS the goal of my art. Just say'n... ♫ Well Worn Blues - Curtis Blues. Listen @cdbaby Click to listen at CDBaby View on www.cdbaby.com Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : That's what Cartier-Bresson said of his work during numerous interviews. Ofcourse his work is artistic, he simply had other and higher ideas about what art is, ideas he tried to fulfill late in life, nothing of which came close to much of what he produced with a camera. The work of Edward Steichen is wonderful and is reaching astronomical prices these days. Calling Curtis an amateur musician is just like calling yourself a non-professional photographer. If he makes a living from it he obviously is a professional, is's his claim that he creates art that piss me off. In my ears it's mostly noise and believe me, I like much music that by many is considered noise or weird Collection of sounds. Again, and for the last time; Claiming
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rocket just blew up on NASA launch pad.
As I understand it the rocket engines Orbital Sciences uses are retired, refurbished Soviet engines. I seriously doubt that idea came from younger engineers. Perhaps they should have gone with the new 3-D printed engines Space X uses. http://tinyurl.com/pmjbwgt http://tinyurl.com/pmjbwgt
[FairfieldLife] Re: today's sunrise
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Looks like rain either today or tomorrow. I'll miss it, as I am off for a sedation dentistry appointment - two crowns and a root canal. Three hours and lots of drugs. I'll be back on line, in my altered state of consciousness, later on today, or tomorrow. I've always been the complete chicken regarding dental visits, and this new approach should work wonders. AND Yay Giants! Three World Series in five years! Yay Madison Baumgartner - Hard to believe a 25 year old can pitch like that. Thanks for the photo and sweet dreams. MJ will probably muse on the fact that even though you've done TM your teeth are not perfect. Just warning you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness Ha ha ha ha! Certified Arts Integration performer!!! That's better than being a RE-certified Governor!!! Pays better, too. And, there is the added benefit that when you tell people what you do for a living, when you walk away as an artist they're not snickering at you behind your back, saying, Could you *believe* that idiot? He actually believes that he's a 'Certified Governor' of something he calls the 'Age of Enlightenment'. What a nut job. Then again, even being snickered at as a 'Certified Governor' is better than the uncontrollable laughter you'd hear behind you if you had told them you were a 'Raja' of the 'Global Country of Enlightenment. Possibly the ONLY thing Maharishi excelled at was creating the dumbest job titles in human history. :-) From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness Might as well eat your heart out Nabby, your limited opinion about the nature of art does not count: Curtis Blues Curtis Blues Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. His musical programs integrat... View on artsfairfax.org Preview by Yahoo Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. Note that the link goes to the Arts Council of Fairfax County, Virginia. Curtis is a recognised artist, and you just have a bee in your bonnet. Wake up. I do not see why Curtis needs to change his view to support your myopic view of the world. I think Curtis is an artist, and I normally do not listen to blues music, though I have a certain fondness for Billie Holiday. == ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You claim you produce art. I claim you produce noise and that your ego is out of control. It's not complicated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's obvious by now that you won't change M: You mean adapt a non native English speakers' misuse of the word for my job title in every organizations that books my shows? That was never on the table. What you need to do if you want to use English is to brush up on the adjectives. That let's you apply whatever personal standards you want to personalize a generic word like art. For example you could say that is groundbreaking art or shitty art, or even life changing, mind boggling, awesomenest ever art. But you don't get to miss-appropriate a generic term for a human activity as if your taste is the definition of the word. Again, that is where adjectives allow you to personalize your feelings about the activity. N:will continue to try to convince yourself by saying, dammit: I'm an artist, I'm an artist, I'm an artist, I'm an artist forever till you pop. M: Actually, just like Maharishi claimed, I didn't name myself that, this is how the arts groups refer to me as so people know what I do when they want to hire me. N: Good luck with that. M: Having excellent luck with that, thanks. N: This discussion has hereby ended from my side. M: This discussion was never open from YOUR side. We both know that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : What is art and what isn't always is a hot theme and will probably never end. M: Popular among people who don't produce any. Most of my social life is with artists and the topic has never come up. N: And there will always be greedy persons who try to capitalize on that word to make a living, happens everywhere. M: I know those artists raking in the cash, big problem. I share your disdain for people trying to make a living. I mean why aren't they just eating brioche? I think the problem is a lack of a central control over the use of the term to describe this human activity. I'm thinking something along the lines of a re-certification course that they can pay for to use the word art. (Patent Pending) N: My statement about your music is my personal and passionate opinion after having seen the videos you posted. M: Gosh Nabs, I don't know how to tell you this but... inspiring people to personal passionate feelings IS the goal of my art. Just say'n... ♫ Well Worn Blues - Curtis Blues. Listen @cdbaby
[FairfieldLife] A couple movie trailers
These open tomorrow. The first one is about a little high tech black magic: http://youtu.be/uPcqetBDKbU The second is a documentary about showrunners which includes interviews with JJ Abrams and Josh Whedon: http://youtu.be/aYWRgqRcSO4
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
On 10/30/2014 05:47 AM, salyavin808 wrote: I remember the first day of my TMSP course when I got the first sutra and found out that it wasn't some enigmatic sanskrit term but the word friendliness. How pissed off was I? A lot. But I stayed and got the rest and practised them for ten years. You were looking for akarsha? :-D
Re: [FairfieldLife] A couple movie trailers
Thanks. The second one sounds great, and I'll look for it -- Joss' comment was perfect...it's insane, and only an insane person would subject themselves to it, but he misses it. As for the first one, it looks a little too much like one of those I *believe* that I control everyone around me, so it must be true fantasies that crazy people tend to have. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 4:56 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] A couple movie trailers These open tomorrow. The first one is about a little high tech black magic: http://youtu.be/uPcqetBDKbU The second is a documentary about showrunners which includes interviews with JJ Abrams and Josh Whedon: http://youtu.be/aYWRgqRcSO4
Re: [FairfieldLife] Looking for an Xmas gift for your favorite astrologer or Jyotishi?
There are free apps on Android that do that. On 10/30/2014 06:51 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: How about a watch that displays the position of the six planets visible from the Earth, in real time. A bargain at only $250,000. Van Cleef Arpels Complication Poétique Midnight Planétarium https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUtUDSltl-M#t=55 image https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUtUDSltl-M#t=55 Van Cleef Arpels Complication Poétique Midnight Planét... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUtUDSltl-M#t=55 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUtUDSltl-M#t=55 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rocket just blew up on NASA launch pad.
Bought off E-bay.
From: marty...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 8:31 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rocket just blew up on NASA launch pad.
As I understand it the rocket engines Orbital Sciences uses are retired,
refurbished Soviet engines. I seriously doubt that idea came from younger
engineers.
Perhaps they should have gone with the new 3-D printed engines Space X uses.
http://tinyurl.com/pmjbwgt
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Giants Win World Series!
That should make for an interesting Halloween night in San Francisco. :-D On 10/29/2014 08:35 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Madison Bumgarden wins the championship for San Francisco.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Elsewhere in SKYNET News
Robot Wars part deux?I have friends that participated in those games from day one. On 10/30/2014 03:00 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Old news, in one respect. I once read that Elvis' idea of fun was inviting friends over to his estate, issuing each of them an enormous bulldozer, and then having big dinosaur battles as they rammed them into one another until only one was left still running. But as crazy as that might have been, at least the bulldozers weren't doing this on their own. These guys want to build robots to do the same thing, and given the popularity of drones it's just a matter of time before they take the human pilots out of the equation. What could go wrong with an idea like that? :-) Startup wants to raise $1.8 million to build giant fighting robots http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/29/megabots-kickstarter/?ncid=rss_truncated image http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/29/megabots-kickstarter/?ncid=rss_truncated Startup wants to raise $1.8 million to build giant fight... http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/29/megabots-kickstarter/?ncid=rss_truncated The folks at MegaBots Inc. dream of making humongous machines: 15-foot-tall, 15,000-pound piloted robots to be exact. And they don't want to build them View on www.engadget.com http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/29/megabots-kickstarter/?ncid=rss_truncated Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Looking for an Xmas gift for your favorite astrologer or Jyotishi?
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Looking for an Xmas gift for your favorite astrologer or Jyotishi? There are free apps on Android that do that. You really don't understand the concept of rich people toys, do you? -- Quarter-million-dollar watch from a famous French jeweler: YES -- Free app that runs on a free platform on cheap telephones: NO :-) On 10/30/2014 06:51 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: How about a watch that displays the position of the six planets visible from the Earth, in real time. A bargain at only $250,000. Van Cleef Arpels Complication Poétique Midnight Planétarium Van Cleef Arpels Complication Poétique Midnight Planét... View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
I doubt you listened to the stuff he put on youtube. This is merry entertainment for street-corners and parties and has nothing to do with art however much Curtis tries to convince himself of the contrary. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Might as well eat your heart out Nabby, your limited opinion about the nature of art does not count: Curtis Blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Curtis Blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. His musical programs integrat... View on artsfairfax.org http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Preview by Yahoo Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. Note that the link goes to the Arts Council of Fairfax County, Virginia. Curtis is a recognised artist, and you just have a bee in your bonnet. Wake up. I do not see why Curtis needs to change his view to support your myopic view of the world. I think Curtis is an artist, and I normally do not listen to blues music, though I have a certain fondness for Billie Holiday. == ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You claim you produce art. I claim you produce noise and that your ego is out of control. It's not complicated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's obvious by now that you won't change M: You mean adapt a non native English speakers' misuse of the word for my job title in every organizations that books my shows? That was never on the table. What you need to do if you want to use English is to brush up on the adjectives. That let's you apply whatever personal standards you want to personalize a generic word like art. For example you could say that is groundbreaking art or shitty art, or even life changing, mind boggling, awesomenest ever art. But you don't get to miss-appropriate a generic term for a human activity as if your taste is the definition of the word. Again, that is where adjectives allow you to personalize your feelings about the activity. N:will continue to try to convince yourself by saying, dammit: I'm an artist, I'm an artist, I'm an artist, I'm an artist forever till you pop. M: Actually, just like Maharishi claimed, I didn't name myself that, this is how the arts groups refer to me as so people know what I do when they want to hire me. N: Good luck with that. M: Having excellent luck with that, thanks. N: This discussion has hereby ended from my side. M: This discussion was never open from YOUR side. We both know that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : What is art and what isn't always is a hot theme and will probably never end. M: Popular among people who don't produce any. Most of my social life is with artists and the topic has never come up. N: And there will always be greedy persons who try to capitalize on that word to make a living, happens everywhere. M: I know those artists raking in the cash, big problem. I share your disdain for people trying to make a living. I mean why aren't they just eating brioche? I think the problem is a lack of a central control over the use of the term to describe this human activity. I'm thinking something along the lines of a re-certification course that they can pay for to use the word art. (Patent Pending) N: My statement about your music is my personal and passionate opinion after having seen the videos you posted. M: Gosh Nabs, I don't know how to tell you this but... inspiring people to personal passionate feelings IS the goal of my art. Just say'n... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/curtisblues2 ♫ Well Worn Blues - Curtis Blues. Listen @cdbaby http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/curtisblues2 Click to listen at CDBaby View on www.cdbaby.com http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/curtisblues2 Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : That's what Cartier-Bresson said of his work during numerous interviews. Ofcourse his work is artistic, he simply had other and higher ideas about what art is, ideas he tried to fulfill late in life, nothing of which came close to much of what he produced with a camera. The work of Edward Steichen is wonderful and is reaching astronomical prices these days. Calling Curtis an amateur musician is just like calling yourself a non-professional photographer. If he
Re: [FairfieldLife] Looking for an Xmas gift for your favorite astrologer or Jyotishi?
Speaking of rich people toys, I saw a BMW i8 on my street today. It's just a car, so that shouldn't be any kind of event, but this particular car happens to have a *three-year waiting list to buy one* in Europe. I guess that's what happens when BMW makes what seems to be state of the art in an electric-fuel hybrid. BMW i8 Review: Sexy, Superhuman Hybrid Porsche 911 Eater BMW i8 Review: Sexy, Superhuman Hybrid Porsche 91... View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Looking for an Xmas gift for your favorite astrologer or Jyotishi? From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Looking for an Xmas gift for your favorite astrologer or Jyotishi? There are free apps on Android that do that. You really don't understand the concept of rich people toys, do you? -- Quarter-million-dollar watch from a famous French jeweler: YES -- Free app that runs on a free platform on cheap telephones: NO :-) On 10/30/2014 06:51 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: How about a watch that displays the position of the six planets visible from the Earth, in real time. A bargain at only $250,000. Van Cleef Arpels Complication Poétique Midnight Planétarium Van Cleef Arpels Complication Poétique Midnight Planét... View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Thanks to anartaxius for posting this and for your inspiring words Ann. I believe that blues gives voice to the indomitable human spirit, so it is as relevant today as when it was created. It has gone all over the world to shape modern popular music, and fills my life with meaning every day. Blues was the party music of its day, discussing relationships, having fun and why my kind-hearted woman or man, studies evil all the time! Facing the ups and downs of life with the equanimity of humor. I liked how you said it: music as real life. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Might as well eat your heart out Nabby, your limited opinion about the nature of art does not count: Curtis Blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Curtis Blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. His musical programs integrat... View on artsfairfax.org http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Preview by Yahoo Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. Note that the link goes to the Arts Council of Fairfax County, Virginia. Curtis is a recognised artist, and you just have a bee in your bonnet. Wake up. I do not see why Curtis needs to change his view to support your myopic view of the world. I think Curtis is an artist, and I normally do not listen to blues music, though I have a certain fondness for Billie Holiday. Cool, nice find. Curtis is, of course, an artist. Whether Nabby likes his music or not is Nabby's business. Nabby might hate all Blues music, not just Curtis'. But Curtis passionately pursues his art and this has resulted in his passion spilling over into many aspects of his life including his teaching and this is great. I also love the fact that his preferred musical genre is a sort of step into the past where he then becomes a sort of preserver of rare and beautiful things - a curator of sorts. This music is very much worth preserving and promoting as it speaks so much to history and the human condition. Curtis' preferred style of blues reveal much about life and human beings and their perpetual struggles as well as their small victories. Music as real life.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Now I wonder what Nabby would think of your music if David Lynch decided to use a cut of it in a film? ;-) On 10/30/2014 08:17 AM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: What happened to the guy who said that the conversation was over from your side? I guess you are seeking some closure you haven't gotten yet. Let's see if I can help. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You claim you produce art. M: I claim that my music is my art. I make living as a musical artist. Because you erroneously conflate this with me saying I make life changing, ground breaking, masterful, mind blowing, art you have contrived something to criticize me for beyond offering your personal opinion about a video you saw. I simply say that this is MY art. It is how I represent my inner life into a form of sound that is shared with others. The people who pay me to perform it and who buy my CDs like it, I acknowledge that you have weighed in that you don't like the videos you saw of my performance, and most people say : Who? N: I claim you produce noise M: What aspect of this point do you think I have missed? I get it, you have an unfavorable opinion about a video you saw. Check. Message received. You seem to be looking for a different outcome than me recognizing your opinion. Do you think perhaps I might use your opinion to stop working in this field? Do you think with your feedback I will change my musical focus, take up the violin perhaps? I have enjoyed this chat as a writing prompt for considering this public job I do. What you don't seem to realize, as you strive to influence me with your opinion, is that before I ever stand in front of other people to judge my art, I have already spent countless hours passing the audition of my toughest critic, me. Any performing artist spends 99 per cent of his or her time alone mastering their art to their own satisfaction. I play the way I like, that is why I am at peace with people who don't like it. Of course I don't usually hear from them so this has been a bit of an opportunity for reflection and I thank you for that. And despite your persistently curmudgeonly view of my work, I get a lot of positive feedback because I put on excellent shows. I work hard at it like most conscientious people in their jobs and I get the job done. Performing is a weird line of work in that your job performance review is simultaneous to you doing the job. But even if audiences took your POV and rejected my music, I would still be playing it this way. I would just not be getting paid for it! Like most people with a desire to express themselves through art, I would only perform for myself and whatever girlfriend I was torturing with my music at the time. The positive or negative feedback from other people doesn't change an artist's need to express their inner life the way they do. You don't seem to understand this fact about artists. So instead you are caught up in a world of thinking your harsh statements should affect me in some way. Art doesn't come from that place you can reach with your words. It isn't sustained by people appreciating what an artist produces. Artists live in the world beyond all the rise and fall of outer opinions. Many great artists were only appreciate after their death, Robert Johnson included. He was not popular in his day. He was struggling till the day he died. That is one of the many reasons I devote my life to bringing the gift of the arts into schools. It is a gift of self expression that can infuse a life with meaning and beauty. So I accept your opinion, but reject your view of art as an elitist activity for a certain few who are deemed (who deems them again, you?) worthy of using the word art. You are on the wrong side of the hater fence Nabbie. Not about my music, you are welcome to your judgement, but about the concept of how the activity of producing art at any level enriches the human spirit. It exists way beyond the ability for you to influence. It would enrich your own life if you could step out of the judgmental cage of your greatness-or-nothing view. N: and that your ego is out of control. It's not complicated. M: Here you are just being silly and trying to be mean. It is complicated. I have a realistic view of where my artistic contributions fit into the history of my genre. Do you know who is the most humble concerning their own musical talent and Robert Johnson's greatness? The guy who plays his music every day with respect and wonder that such an artist might be forgotten in this generation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] A couple movie trailers
And for the Netflixers here Snowpiercer has been added to WI. On 10/30/2014 09:04 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Thanks. The second one sounds great, and I'll look for it -- Joss' comment was perfect...it's insane, and only an insane person would subject themselves to it, but he misses it. As for the first one, it looks a little too much like one of those I *believe* that I control everyone around me, so it must be true fantasies that crazy people tend to have. *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 4:56 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] A couple movie trailers These open tomorrow. The first one is about a little high tech black magic: http://youtu.be/uPcqetBDKbU The second is a documentary about showrunners which includes interviews with JJ Abrams and Josh Whedon: http://youtu.be/aYWRgqRcSO4
Re: [FairfieldLife] Looking for an Xmas gift for your favorite astrologer or Jyotishi?
On 10/30/2014 09:13 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 5:07 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Looking for an Xmas gift for your favorite astrologer or Jyotishi? There are free apps on Android that do that. You really don't understand the concept of rich people toys, do you? -- Quarter-million-dollar watch from a famous French jeweler: YES -- Free app that runs on a free platform on cheap telephones: NO :-) Yup they wouldn't be absurdly rich if they weren't so narcissistic. On 10/30/2014 06:51 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com mailto:turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: How about a watch that displays the position of the six planets visible from the Earth, in real time. A bargain at only $250,000. Van Cleef Arpels Complication Poétique Midnight Planétarium https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUtUDSltl-M#t=55 image https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUtUDSltl-M#t=55 Van Cleef Arpels Complication Poétique Midnight Planét... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUtUDSltl-M#t=55 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUtUDSltl-M#t=55 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Now I wonder what Nabby would think of your music if David Lynch decided to use a cut of it in a film? ;-) M: That would make his head explode! Seeing Paul Maccartney playing a cigar box guitar recently was great. The primitive stuff still has a voice today. On 10/30/2014 08:17 AM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: What happened to the guy who said that the conversation was over from your side? I guess you are seeking some closure you haven't gotten yet. Let's see if I can help. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You claim you produce art. M: I claim that my music is my art. I make living as a musical artist. Because you erroneously conflate this with me saying I make life changing, ground breaking, masterful, mind blowing, art you have contrived something to criticize me for beyond offering your personal opinion about a video you saw. I simply say that this is MY art. It is how I represent my inner life into a form of sound that is shared with others. The people who pay me to perform it and who buy my CDs like it, I acknowledge that you have weighed in that you don't like the videos you saw of my performance, and most people say : Who? N: I claim you produce noise M: What aspect of this point do you think I have missed? I get it, you have an unfavorable opinion about a video you saw. Check. Message received. You seem to be looking for a different outcome than me recognizing your opinion. Do you think perhaps I might use your opinion to stop working in this field? Do you think with your feedback I will change my musical focus, take up the violin perhaps? I have enjoyed this chat as a writing prompt for considering this public job I do. What you don't seem to realize, as you strive to influence me with your opinion, is that before I ever stand in front of other people to judge my art, I have already spent countless hours passing the audition of my toughest critic, me. Any performing artist spends 99 per cent of his or her time alone mastering their art to their own satisfaction. I play the way I like, that is why I am at peace with people who don't like it. Of course I don't usually hear from them so this has been a bit of an opportunity for reflection and I thank you for that. And despite your persistently curmudgeonly view of my work, I get a lot of positive feedback because I put on excellent shows. I work hard at it like most conscientious people in their jobs and I get the job done. Performing is a weird line of work in that your job performance review is simultaneous to you doing the job. But even if audiences took your POV and rejected my music, I would still be playing it this way. I would just not be getting paid for it! Like most people with a desire to express themselves through art, I would only perform for myself and whatever girlfriend I was torturing with my music at the time. The positive or negative feedback from other people doesn't change an artist's need to express their inner life the way they do. You don't seem to understand this fact about artists. So instead you are caught up in a world of thinking your harsh statements should affect me in some way. Art doesn't come from that place you can reach with your words. It isn't sustained by people appreciating what an artist produces. Artists live in the world beyond all the rise and fall of outer opinions. Many great artists were only appreciate after their death, Robert Johnson included. He was not popular in his day. He was struggling till the day he died. That is one of the many reasons I devote my life to bringing the gift of the arts into schools. It is a gift of self expression that can infuse a life with meaning and beauty. So I accept your opinion, but reject your view of art as an elitist activity for a certain few who are deemed (who deems them again, you?) worthy of using the word art. You are on the wrong side of the hater fence Nabbie. Not about my music, you are welcome to your judgement, but about the concept of how the activity of producing art at any level enriches the human spirit. It exists way beyond the ability for you to influence. It would enrich your own life if you could step out of the judgmental cage of your greatness-or-nothing view. N: and that your ego is out of control. It's not complicated. M: Here you are just being silly and trying to be mean. It is complicated. I have a realistic view of where my artistic contributions fit into the history of my genre. Do you know who is the most humble concerning their own musical talent and Robert Johnson's greatness? The guy who plays his music every day with respect and wonder that such an artist might be forgotten in this generation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I doubt you listened to the stuff he put on youtube. This is merry entertainment for street-corners and parties M:Where exactly do you imagine guys like Robert Johnson performed? and has nothing to do with art however much Curtis tries to convince himself of the contrary. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Might as well eat your heart out Nabby, your limited opinion about the nature of art does not count: Curtis Blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Curtis Blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. His musical programs integrat... View on artsfairfax.org http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Preview by Yahoo Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. Note that the link goes to the Arts Council of Fairfax County, Virginia. Curtis is a recognised artist, and you just have a bee in your bonnet. Wake up. I do not see why Curtis needs to change his view to support your myopic view of the world. I think Curtis is an artist, and I normally do not listen to blues music, though I have a certain fondness for Billie Holiday. == ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You claim you produce art. I claim you produce noise and that your ego is out of control. It's not complicated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's obvious by now that you won't change M: You mean adapt a non native English speakers' misuse of the word for my job title in every organizations that books my shows? That was never on the table. What you need to do if you want to use English is to brush up on the adjectives. That let's you apply whatever personal standards you want to personalize a generic word like art. For example you could say that is groundbreaking art or shitty art, or even life changing, mind boggling, awesomenest ever art. But you don't get to miss-appropriate a generic term for a human activity as if your taste is the definition of the word. Again, that is where adjectives allow you to personalize your feelings about the activity. N:will continue to try to convince yourself by saying, dammit: I'm an artist, I'm an artist, I'm an artist, I'm an artist forever till you pop. M: Actually, just like Maharishi claimed, I didn't name myself that, this is how the arts groups refer to me as so people know what I do when they want to hire me. N: Good luck with that. M: Having excellent luck with that, thanks. N: This discussion has hereby ended from my side. M: This discussion was never open from YOUR side. We both know that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : What is art and what isn't always is a hot theme and will probably never end. M: Popular among people who don't produce any. Most of my social life is with artists and the topic has never come up. N: And there will always be greedy persons who try to capitalize on that word to make a living, happens everywhere. M: I know those artists raking in the cash, big problem. I share your disdain for people trying to make a living. I mean why aren't they just eating brioche? I think the problem is a lack of a central control over the use of the term to describe this human activity. I'm thinking something along the lines of a re-certification course that they can pay for to use the word art. (Patent Pending) N: My statement about your music is my personal and passionate opinion after having seen the videos you posted. M: Gosh Nabs, I don't know how to tell you this but... inspiring people to personal passionate feelings IS the goal of my art. Just say'n... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/curtisblues2 ♫ Well Worn Blues - Curtis Blues. Listen @cdbaby http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/curtisblues2 Click to listen at CDBaby View on www.cdbaby.com http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/curtisblues2 Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : That's what Cartier-Bresson said of his work during numerous interviews. Ofcourse his work is artistic, he simply had other and higher ideas about what art is, ideas he tried to fulfill late in life, nothing of which came close to much of what he produced with a camera. The work of Edward Steichen is wonderful and is
Re: [FairfieldLife] Looking for an Xmas gift for your favorite astrologer or Jyotishi?
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 10/30/2014 09:13 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Looking for an Xmas gift for your favorite astrologer or Jyotishi? There are free apps on Android that do that. You really don't understand the concept of rich people toys, do you? -- Quarter-million-dollar watch from a famous French jeweler: YES -- Free app that runs on a free platform on cheap telephones: NO :-) Yup they wouldn't be absurdly rich if they weren't so narcissistic. Indeed. Suffice it to say I'm not a rich person. I'm not poor by any stretch of the imagination, but I really never cared enough about being rich to try to get that way, so I didn't. But for some reason I've managed to know and interact with a few rich people in my life, and that experience has left me with an enduring curiosity about them. For this reason every so often I pick up a copy of one of those 10-12-Euros-a-pop glossy magazines around here that obviously cater to the rich. I like to do this primarily for the ads in the magazines -- I like to see what rich people's consumer items are, as opposed to what yours and mine are. It's utterly fascinating. $50,000 fountain pens. $100,000 bicycles. Cars that turn into helicopters. Wretched excess, in sharp, professionally-done photographic splendor in every ad. I make it a point to buy one of these magazines at least once a year and peruse it thoroughly to help me remember to be grateful that I'm *not* rich, and thus *not* looking at it as an advertisement for what my life should look like. On 10/30/2014 06:51 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: How about a watch that displays the position of the six planets visible from the Earth, in real time. A bargain at only $250,000. Van Cleef Arpels Complication Poétique Midnight Planétarium Van Cleef Arpels Complication Poétique Midnight Planét... View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Thanks to anartaxius for posting this and for your inspiring words Ann. I believe that blues gives voice to the indomitable human spirit, so it is as relevant today as when it was created. It has gone all over the world to shape modern popular music, and fills my life with meaning every day. Blues was the party music of its day, discussing relationships, having fun and why my kind-hearted woman or man, studies evil all the time! Facing the ups and downs of life with the equanimity of humor. I liked how you said it: music as real life. Keep up the good work, Curtis. Keep singing, and playing and making music about life, and people and all the trouble and the joy they can get themselves into. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Might as well eat your heart out Nabby, your limited opinion about the nature of art does not count: Curtis Blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Curtis Blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. His musical programs integrat... View on artsfairfax.org http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Preview by Yahoo Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. Note that the link goes to the Arts Council of Fairfax County, Virginia. Curtis is a recognised artist, and you just have a bee in your bonnet. Wake up. I do not see why Curtis needs to change his view to support your myopic view of the world. I think Curtis is an artist, and I normally do not listen to blues music, though I have a certain fondness for Billie Holiday. Cool, nice find. Curtis is, of course, an artist. Whether Nabby likes his music or not is Nabby's business. Nabby might hate all Blues music, not just Curtis'. But Curtis passionately pursues his art and this has resulted in his passion spilling over into many aspects of his life including his teaching and this is great. I also love the fact that his preferred musical genre is a sort of step into the past where he then becomes a sort of preserver of rare and beautiful things - a curator of sorts. This music is very much worth preserving and promoting as it speaks so much to history and the human condition. Curtis' preferred style of blues reveal much about life and human beings and their perpetual struggles as well as their small victories. Music as real life.
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From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I doubt you listened to the stuff he put on youtube. This is merry entertainment for street-corners and parties M:Where exactly do you imagine guys like Robert Johnson performed? This entire thread could be reduced to this one statement from Nabby, and this perfect response from Curtis. Utter, complete ignorance meets real knowledge and experience on the Internet and, rather than being open to learning from it, tries to put it down. It doesn't end well for the ignorant one.
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You want wretched excess when it comes to rich people toys? I give you wretched excess. :-) INEZ | The World’s Most Coveted Vibrating Massager | LELO INEZ | The World’s Most Coveted Vibrating Massager | LELO INEZ is the world-renowned luxury vibrator that offers immense pleasures in 24-Karat gold or stainless steel for individuals and couples with exclusive tastes. View on www.lelo.com Preview by Yahoo From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Looking for an Xmas gift for your favorite astrologer or Jyotishi? From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 10/30/2014 09:13 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Looking for an Xmas gift for your favorite astrologer or Jyotishi? There are free apps on Android that do that. You really don't understand the concept of rich people toys, do you? -- Quarter-million-dollar watch from a famous French jeweler: YES -- Free app that runs on a free platform on cheap telephones: NO :-) Yup they wouldn't be absurdly rich if they weren't so narcissistic. Indeed. Suffice it to say I'm not a rich person. I'm not poor by any stretch of the imagination, but I really never cared enough about being rich to try to get that way, so I didn't. But for some reason I've managed to know and interact with a few rich people in my life, and that experience has left me with an enduring curiosity about them. For this reason every so often I pick up a copy of one of those 10-12-Euros-a-pop glossy magazines around here that obviously cater to the rich. I like to do this primarily for the ads in the magazines -- I like to see what rich people's consumer items are, as opposed to what yours and mine are. It's utterly fascinating. $50,000 fountain pens. $100,000 bicycles. Cars that turn into helicopters. Wretched excess, in sharp, professionally-done photographic splendor in every ad. I make it a point to buy one of these magazines at least once a year and peruse it thoroughly to help me remember to be grateful that I'm *not* rich, and thus *not* looking at it as an advertisement for what my life should look like. On 10/30/2014 06:51 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: How about a watch that displays the position of the six planets visible from the Earth, in real time. A bargain at only $250,000. Van Cleef Arpels Complication Poétique Midnight Planétarium Van Cleef Arpels Complication Poétique Midnight Planét... View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
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So what do you consider art? A film where you watch a guy eat a can of peaches for half an hour and nothing else happens? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness I doubt you listened to the stuff he put on youtube. This is merry entertainment for street-corners and parties and has nothing to do with art however much Curtis tries to convince himself of the contrary. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Might as well eat your heart out Nabby, your limited opinion about the nature of art does not count: Curtis Blues Curtis Blues Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. His musical programs integrat... View on artsfairfax.org Preview by Yahoo Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. Note that the link goes to the Arts Council of Fairfax County, Virginia. Curtis is a recognised artist, and you just have a bee in your bonnet. Wake up. I do not see why Curtis needs to change his view to support your myopic view of the world. I think Curtis is an artist, and I normally do not listen to blues music, though I have a certain fondness for Billie Holiday. == ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You claim you produce art. I claim you produce noise and that your ego is out of control. It's not complicated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's obvious by now that you won't change M: You mean adapt a non native English speakers' misuse of the word for my job title in every organizations that books my shows? That was never on the table. What you need to do if you want to use English is to brush up on the adjectives. That let's you apply whatever personal standards you want to personalize a generic word like art. For example you could say that is groundbreaking art or shitty art, or even life changing, mind boggling, awesomenest ever art. But you don't get to miss-appropriate a generic term for a human activity as if your taste is the definition of the word. Again, that is where adjectives allow you to personalize your feelings about the activity. N:will continue to try to convince yourself by saying, dammit: I'm an artist, I'm an artist, I'm an artist, I'm an artist forever till you pop. M: Actually, just like Maharishi claimed, I didn't name myself that, this is how the arts groups refer to me as so people know what I do when they want to hire me. N: Good luck with that. M: Having excellent luck with that, thanks. N: This discussion has hereby ended from my side. M: This discussion was never open from YOUR side. We both know that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : What is art and what isn't always is a hot theme and will probably never end. M: Popular among people who don't produce any. Most of my social life is with artists and the topic has never come up. N: And there will always be greedy persons who try to capitalize on that word to make a living, happens everywhere. M: I know those artists raking in the cash, big problem. I share your disdain for people trying to make a living. I mean why aren't they just eating brioche? I think the problem is a lack of a central control over the use of the term to describe this human activity. I'm thinking something along the lines of a re-certification course that they can pay for to use the word art. (Patent Pending) N: My statement about your music is my personal and passionate opinion after having seen the videos you posted. M: Gosh Nabs, I don't know how to tell you this but... inspiring people to personal passionate feelings IS the goal of my art. Just say'n... ♫ Well Worn Blues - Curtis Blues. Listen @cdbaby Click to listen at CDBaby View on www.cdbaby.com Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : That's what Cartier-Bresson said of his work during numerous interviews. Ofcourse his work is artistic, he simply had other and higher ideas about what art is, ideas he tried to fulfill late in life, nothing of which came close to much of what he produced with a camera. The work of Edward Steichen is wonderful and is reaching astronomical prices these days. Calling Curtis an amateur musician is just like calling yourself a non-professional photographer. If he makes a living
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Funny, you compare yourself to Robert Johnson now ? One wonders what else is wrong with you other than a oversized ego. Judy repeatedly call you a blatant a liar, but you are fooling only yourself after all those years saying to yourself I create art over and over again. All others has to do is watch the videos you for some unknown reason and voluntarily posted on youtube, like this one that in 5 years has reached a surprising 506 viewers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I doubt you listened to the stuff he put on youtube. This is merry entertainment for street-corners and parties M:Where exactly do you imagine guys like Robert Johnson performed? and has nothing to do with art however much Curtis tries to convince himself of the contrary. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Might as well eat your heart out Nabby, your limited opinion about the nature of art does not count: Curtis Blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Curtis Blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. His musical programs integrat... View on artsfairfax.org http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Preview by Yahoo Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. Note that the link goes to the Arts Council of Fairfax County, Virginia. Curtis is a recognised artist, and you just have a bee in your bonnet. Wake up. I do not see why Curtis needs to change his view to support your myopic view of the world. I think Curtis is an artist, and I normally do not listen to blues music, though I have a certain fondness for Billie Holiday. == ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You claim you produce art. I claim you produce noise and that your ego is out of control. It's not complicated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's obvious by now that you won't change M: You mean adapt a non native English speakers' misuse of the word for my job title in every organizations that books my shows? That was never on the table. What you need to do if you want to use English is to brush up on the adjectives. That let's you apply whatever personal standards you want to personalize a generic word like art. For example you could say that is groundbreaking art or shitty art, or even life changing, mind boggling, awesomenest ever art. But you don't get to miss-appropriate a generic term for a human activity as if your taste is the definition of the word. Again, that is where adjectives allow you to personalize your feelings about the activity. N:will continue to try to convince yourself by saying, dammit: I'm an artist, I'm an artist, I'm an artist, I'm an artist forever till you pop. M: Actually, just like Maharishi claimed, I didn't name myself that, this is how the arts groups refer to me as so people know what I do when they want to hire me. N: Good luck with that. M: Having excellent luck with that, thanks. N: This discussion has hereby ended from my side. M: This discussion was never open from YOUR side. We both know that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : What is art and what isn't always is a hot theme and will probably never end. M: Popular among people who don't produce any. Most of my social life is with artists and the topic has never come up. N: And there will always be greedy persons who try to capitalize on that word to make a living, happens everywhere. M: I know those artists raking in the cash, big problem. I share your disdain for people trying to make a living. I mean why aren't they just eating brioche? I think the problem is a lack of a central control over the use of the term to describe this human activity. I'm thinking something along the lines of a re-certification course that they can pay for to use the word art. (Patent Pending) N: My statement about your music is my personal and passionate opinion after having seen the videos you posted. M: Gosh Nabs, I don't know how to tell you this but... inspiring people to personal passionate feelings IS the goal of my art. Just say'n... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/curtisblues2 ♫ Well Worn Blues - Curtis Blues. Listen @cdbaby
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That would be one weird film :-) Curtis Blues Pre Delta War Blues. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk Curtis Blues Pre Delta War Blues. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk Went to visit the Grandparents in old town, and ran into Curtis Blues, before we knew the kids were part of the band. See the CNN piece on him at the bottom ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Now I wonder what Nabby would think of your music if David Lynch decided to use a cut of it in a film? ;-) On 10/30/2014 08:17 AM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: What happened to the guy who said that the conversation was over from your side? I guess you are seeking some closure you haven't gotten yet. Let's see if I can help. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You claim you produce art. M: I claim that my music is my art. I make living as a musical artist. Because you erroneously conflate this with me saying I make life changing, ground breaking, masterful, mind blowing, art you have contrived something to criticize me for beyond offering your personal opinion about a video you saw. I simply say that this is MY art. It is how I represent my inner life into a form of sound that is shared with others. The people who pay me to perform it and who buy my CDs like it, I acknowledge that you have weighed in that you don't like the videos you saw of my performance, and most people say : Who? N: I claim you produce noise M: What aspect of this point do you think I have missed? I get it, you have an unfavorable opinion about a video you saw. Check. Message received. You seem to be looking for a different outcome than me recognizing your opinion. Do you think perhaps I might use your opinion to stop working in this field? Do you think with your feedback I will change my musical focus, take up the violin perhaps? I have enjoyed this chat as a writing prompt for considering this public job I do. What you don't seem to realize, as you strive to influence me with your opinion, is that before I ever stand in front of other people to judge my art, I have already spent countless hours passing the audition of my toughest critic, me. Any performing artist spends 99 per cent of his or her time alone mastering their art to their own satisfaction. I play the way I like, that is why I am at peace with people who don't like it. Of course I don't usually hear from them so this has been a bit of an opportunity for reflection and I thank you for that. And despite your persistently curmudgeonly view of my work, I get a lot of positive feedback because I put on excellent shows. I work hard at it like most conscientious people in their jobs and I get the job done. Performing is a weird line of work in that your job performance review is simultaneous to you doing the job. But even if audiences took your POV and rejected my music, I would still be playing it this way. I would just not be getting paid for it! Like most people with a desire to express themselves through art, I would only perform for myself and whatever girlfriend I was torturing with my music at the time. The positive or negative feedback from other people doesn't change an artist's need to express their inner life the way they do. You don't seem to understand this fact about artists. So instead you are caught up in a world of thinking your harsh statements should affect me in some way. Art doesn't come from that place you can reach with your words. It isn't sustained by people appreciating what an artist produces. Artists live in the world beyond all the rise and fall of outer opinions. Many great artists were only appreciate after their death, Robert Johnson included. He was not popular in his day. He was struggling till the day he died. That is one of the many reasons I devote my life to bringing the gift of the arts into schools. It is a gift of self expression that can infuse a life with meaning and beauty. So I accept your opinion, but reject your view of art as an elitist activity for a certain few who are deemed (who deems them again, you?) worthy of using the word art. You are on the wrong side of the hater fence Nabbie. Not about my music, you are welcome to your judgement, but about the concept of how the activity of producing art at any level enriches the human spirit. It exists way beyond the ability for you to influence. It would enrich your own life if you could step out of the judgmental cage of your greatness-or-nothing view. N: and that your ego is out of control. It's not complicated. M: Here you are just being silly and trying to be mean. It is
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Funny, you compare yourself to Robert Johnson now ? M: No but you were making fun of me playing in he same places and conditions he did. N: One wonders what else is wrong with you other than a oversized ego. M: Does one? Judy repeatedly call you a blatant a liar, M: She did indeed, it was part of her ad hominem attack instead of rational argument program. N: but you are fooling only yourself after all those years saying to yourself I create art over and over again. All others has to do is watch the videos you for some unknown reason and voluntarily posted on youtube, like this one that in 5 years has reached a surprising 506 viewers: M: Look at the name under the video and his commnents dimwit. It was posted by a proud dad whose kids were in my show. It is amazing that it got that many views considering the small number of friends it was intended for. Look at the kids engaged by music created before their father was born. The CNN video he refers to has a broken link. Here it is: Curtis Blues Busking Show.mov https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywyaUamq1SQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywyaUamq1SQ Curtis Blues Busking Show.mov https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywyaUamq1SQ Acoustic Blues preservationist Curtis Blues performs in Old Town Alexandria, VA to keep the blues alive. View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywyaUamq1SQ Preview by Yahoo Curtis Blues Pre Delta War Blues. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk Curtis Blues Pre Delta War Blues. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk Went to visit the Grandparents in old town, and ran into Curtis Blues, before we knew the kids were part of the band. See the CNN piece on him at the bottom ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk Preview by Yahoo M: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I doubt you listened to the stuff he put on youtube. This is merry entertainment for street-corners and parties M:Where exactly do you imagine guys like Robert Johnson performed? and has nothing to do with art however much Curtis tries to convince himself of the contrary. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Might as well eat your heart out Nabby, your limited opinion about the nature of art does not count: Curtis Blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Curtis Blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. His musical programs integrat... View on artsfairfax.org http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Preview by Yahoo Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. Note that the link goes to the Arts Council of Fairfax County, Virginia. Curtis is a recognised artist, and you just have a bee in your bonnet. Wake up. I do not see why Curtis needs to change his view to support your myopic view of the world. I think Curtis is an artist, and I normally do not listen to blues music, though I have a certain fondness for Billie Holiday. == ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You claim you produce art. I claim you produce noise and that your ego is out of control. It's not complicated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's obvious by now that you won't change M: You mean adapt a non native English speakers' misuse of the word for my job title in every organizations that books my shows? That was never on the table. What you need to do if you want to use English is to brush up on the adjectives. That let's you apply whatever personal standards you want to personalize a generic word like art. For example you could say that is groundbreaking art or shitty art, or even life changing, mind boggling, awesomenest ever art. But you don't get to miss-appropriate a generic term for a human activity as if your taste is the definition of the word. Again, that is where adjectives allow you to personalize your feelings about the activity. N:will continue to try to convince yourself by saying, dammit: I'm an artist, I'm an artist, I'm an artist, I'm an artist forever till you pop. M: Actually, just like Maharishi claimed, I didn't name myself that, this is how the arts groups refer to me as so people know what I do when
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
** One of the more interesting things in this piece is his reference to a private blog group called Cult Bros which is a group of people who grew up in the Movement: On 10/30/2014 7:42 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I actually think that the Cult Bros thang is healthy, and the fact that the author of this fluff piece ISN'T a member and doesn't seem to be doing any real examination of the insanity he grew up with strikes me as far less healthy. The very fact that he could refer to the made-up, non-existent Yogic Flying as the black belt of meditation indicates to me that he's never understood meditation, much less anything to do with black belts. /His fluff piece wasn't much different from your fluff piece about Rama on your web site. You even bragged about how Rama had a black belt in the martial arts and could levitate up off of a sofa. This is actually far less healthy than just being in a trance-induction state and still trying to write science reports. You can deal with the cognitive dissonance but it's going to be a lot more difficult dealing with your own insanity./ He's written a puff piece to make money, and pooh-pooh his own history growing up as if he's all adult now, and looks back on it as if it were just silly. My point is that it's a great deal MORE than silly -- it's insanity, on a mass scale. This guy has never really dealt with that. I have more respect for his bros in Cult Bros, who at least understand and acknowledge what they were part of. /Wake up, Barry - this is the Cult Bros./
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
** Ethnography. Om no that first paragraph was really fine. It gave a lot of information to get going and you see it is an article where you the reader get to roll up your sleeves up to work with it. You're being way too cranky and hard-minded. On 10/30/2014 6:42 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: There is too much effort being expended by people like you to candy coat this insanity and try to present it as if it were normal. It isn't. It never was. It never will be. What it is is insanity. If you can admit that, you might become sane someday. If you can't, you probably never will... /You admit you were insane back then for over ten years, but you failed to explain why for another ten years you believed in the Rama cult of insanity. You must still be insane to think that anyone today is going to believe you witnessed hundreds of levitation events by Fred Lenz. How, that's insanity! Go figure./
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rocket just blew up on NASA launch pad.
And probably designed by 20 something Russian engineers. :-D On 10/30/2014 09:08 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bought off E-bay. *From:* marty...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 8:31 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Rocket just blew up on NASA launch pad. As I understand it the rocket engines Orbital Sciences uses are retired, refurbished Soviet engines. I seriously doubt that idea came from younger engineers. Perhaps they should have gone with the new 3-D printed engines Space X uses. *http://tinyurl.com/pmjbwgt* **
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Here's someone I once giged with though a bit of a nightmare for any drummer as he tended to drop beats. :-D http://youtu.be/keQR4_7DBnM On 10/30/2014 10:37 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: That would be one weird film :-) Curtis Blues Pre Delta War Blues. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk image https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk Curtis Blues Pre Delta War Blues. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk Went to visit the Grandparents in old town, and ran into Curtis Blues, before we knew the kids were part of the band. See the CNN piece on him at the bottom ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Now I wonder what Nabby would think of your music if David Lynch decided to use a cut of it in a film? ;-) On 10/30/2014 08:17 AM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: What happened to the guy who said that the conversation was over from your side? I guess you are seeking some closure you haven't gotten yet. Let's see if I can help. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You claim you produce art. M: I claim that my music is my art. I make living as a musical artist. Because you erroneously conflate this with me saying I make life changing, ground breaking, masterful, mind blowing, art you have contrived something to criticize me for beyond offering your personal opinion about a video you saw. I simply say that this is MY art. It is how I represent my inner life into a form of sound that is shared with others. The people who pay me to perform it and who buy my CDs like it, I acknowledge that you have weighed in that you don't like the videos you saw of my performance, and most people say : Who? N: I claim you produce noise M: What aspect of this point do you think I have missed? I get it, you have an unfavorable opinion about a video you saw. Check. Message received. You seem to be looking for a different outcome than me recognizing your opinion. Do you think perhaps I might use your opinion to stop working in this field? Do you think with your feedback I will change my musical focus, take up the violin perhaps? I have enjoyed this chat as a writing prompt for considering this public job I do. What you don't seem to realize, as you strive to influence me with your opinion, is that before I ever stand in front of other people to judge my art, I have already spent countless hours passing the audition of my toughest critic, me. Any performing artist spends 99 per cent of his or her time alone mastering their art to their own satisfaction. I play the way I like, that is why I am at peace with people who don't like it. Of course I don't usually hear from them so this has been a bit of an opportunity for reflection and I thank you for that. And despite your persistently curmudgeonly view of my work, I get a lot of positive feedback because I put on excellent shows. I work hard at it like most conscientious people in their jobs and I get the job done. Performing is a weird line of work in that your job performance review is simultaneous to you doing the job. But even if audiences took your POV and rejected my music, I would still be playing it this way. I would just not be getting paid for it! Like most people with a desire to express themselves through art, I would only perform for myself and whatever girlfriend I was torturing with my music at the time. The positive or negative feedback from other people doesn't change an artist's need to express their inner life the way they do. You don't seem to understand this fact about artists. So instead you are caught up in a world of thinking your harsh statements should affect me in some way. Art doesn't come from that place you can reach with your words. It isn't sustained by people appreciating what an artist produces. Artists live in the world beyond all the rise and fall of outer opinions. Many great artists were only appreciate after their death, Robert Johnson included. He was not popular in his day. He was struggling till the day he died. That is one of the many reasons I devote my life to bringing the gift of the arts into schools. It is a gift of self expression that can infuse a life with meaning and beauty. So I accept your opinion, but reject your view of art as an elitist activity for a certain few who are deemed (who deems them again, you?) worthy of using the word art. You are on the wrong side of the hater fence Nabbie. Not about my music, you are welcome to your judgement,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
One must give you credit for not giving up, or is it an inability to face reality. I never mocked street-corners quite the contrary, I believe that's where your entertainment belongs. Judy can defend herself when she returns, but she has a talent for smelling a lie when she sees one, and she caught you in the act more than once. She will (certainly) correct me if I'm wrong but I even believe she called you a compulsory serial-liar and one that would try to bend a story backwards 180 degrees when caugth in the act. Anyways, the most clownish lie is the one you keep telling yourself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Funny, you compare yourself to Robert Johnson now ? M: No but you were making fun of me playing in he same places and conditions he did. N: One wonders what else is wrong with you other than a oversized ego. M: Does one? Judy repeatedly call you a blatant a liar, M: She did indeed, it was part of her ad hominem attack instead of rational argument program. N: but you are fooling only yourself after all those years saying to yourself I create art over and over again. All others has to do is watch the videos you for some unknown reason and voluntarily posted on youtube, like this one that in 5 years has reached a surprising 506 viewers: M: Look at the name under the video and his commnents dimwit. It was posted by a proud dad whose kids were in my show. It is amazing that it got that many views considering the small number of friends it was intended for. Look at the kids engaged by music created before their father was born. The CNN video he refers to has a broken link. Here it is: Curtis Blues Busking Show.mov https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywyaUamq1SQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywyaUamq1SQ Curtis Blues Busking Show.mov https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywyaUamq1SQ Acoustic Blues preservationist Curtis Blues performs in Old Town Alexandria, VA to keep the blues alive. View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywyaUamq1SQ Preview by Yahoo Curtis Blues Pre Delta War Blues. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk Curtis Blues Pre Delta War Blues. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk Went to visit the Grandparents in old town, and ran into Curtis Blues, before we knew the kids were part of the band. See the CNN piece on him at the bottom ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk Preview by Yahoo M: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I doubt you listened to the stuff he put on youtube. This is merry entertainment for street-corners and parties M:Where exactly do you imagine guys like Robert Johnson performed? and has nothing to do with art however much Curtis tries to convince himself of the contrary. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Might as well eat your heart out Nabby, your limited opinion about the nature of art does not count: Curtis Blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Curtis Blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. His musical programs integrat... View on artsfairfax.org http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Preview by Yahoo Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. Note that the link goes to the Arts Council of Fairfax County, Virginia. Curtis is a recognised artist, and you just have a bee in your bonnet. Wake up. I do not see why Curtis needs to change his view to support your myopic view of the world. I think Curtis is an artist, and I normally do not listen to blues music, though I have a certain fondness for Billie Holiday. == ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You claim you produce art. I claim you produce noise and that your ego is out of control. It's not complicated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's obvious by now that you won't change M: You mean adapt a non native English speakers' misuse of the word for my job title in every organizations that books my shows? That was never on the table. What you need to do if you want to use English is to brush up on the adjectives. That let's you apply whatever personal standards you want to personalize a generic
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : One must give you credit for not giving up, or is it an inability to face reality. I never mocked street-corners quite the contrary, I believe that's where your entertainment belongs. Judy can defend herself when she returns, but she has a talent for smelling a lie when she sees one, and she caught you in the act more than once. She will (certainly) correct me if I'm wrong but I even believe she called you a compulsory serial-liar and one that would try to bend a story backwards 180 degrees when caugth in the act. Anyways, the most clownish lie is the one you keep telling yourself. M: So now your are going with insults previous posters have hurled at me? Ok, if that is all you got. But since we are on the subject of liars... since the guy who posted the video you continually attributed to me very clearly put his picture, name and comments below the video... And as far as where my music belongs, it was good enough for the National Theater in D.C. and Wolf Trap National Performing Art Center, the most prestigious venues in my area. Selling your musical taste as more than that isn't gunna get any traction from my fans here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Funny, you compare yourself to Robert Johnson now ? M: No but you were making fun of me playing in he same places and conditions he did. N: One wonders what else is wrong with you other than a oversized ego. M: Does one? Judy repeatedly call you a blatant a liar, M: She did indeed, it was part of her ad hominem attack instead of rational argument program. N: but you are fooling only yourself after all those years saying to yourself I create art over and over again. All others has to do is watch the videos you for some unknown reason and voluntarily posted on youtube, like this one that in 5 years has reached a surprising 506 viewers: M: Look at the name under the video and his commnents dimwit. It was posted by a proud dad whose kids were in my show. It is amazing that it got that many views considering the small number of friends it was intended for. Look at the kids engaged by music created before their father was born. The CNN video he refers to has a broken link. Here it is: Curtis Blues Busking Show.mov https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywyaUamq1SQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywyaUamq1SQ Curtis Blues Busking Show.mov https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywyaUamq1SQ Acoustic Blues preservationist Curtis Blues performs in Old Town Alexandria, VA to keep the blues alive. View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywyaUamq1SQ Preview by Yahoo Curtis Blues Pre Delta War Blues. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk Curtis Blues Pre Delta War Blues. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk Went to visit the Grandparents in old town, and ran into Curtis Blues, before we knew the kids were part of the band. See the CNN piece on him at the bottom ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk Preview by Yahoo M: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I doubt you listened to the stuff he put on youtube. This is merry entertainment for street-corners and parties M:Where exactly do you imagine guys like Robert Johnson performed? and has nothing to do with art however much Curtis tries to convince himself of the contrary. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Might as well eat your heart out Nabby, your limited opinion about the nature of art does not count: Curtis Blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Curtis Blues http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. His musical programs integrat... View on artsfairfax.org http://artsfairfax.org/component/mtree/education/curtis-blues Preview by Yahoo Curtis Blues, a certified Arts Integration performer, was named the Blues Artist of the Year by the Washington DC Blues Society. Note that the link goes to the Arts Council of Fairfax County, Virginia. Curtis is a recognised artist, and you just have a bee in your bonnet. Wake up. I do not see why Curtis needs to change his view to support your myopic view of the world. I think Curtis is an artist, and I normally do not listen to blues music, though I have a certain fondness for Billie Holiday. == ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
That is so badass I can hardly stand it. I didn't know that about you. Guys like Lighting just went where they felt like it whenever they wanted. I miss some of the raggedy irregularity of those guys. Can't imagine backing him though! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Here's someone I once giged with though a bit of a nightmare for any drummer as he tended to drop beats. :-D http://youtu.be/keQR4_7DBnM http://youtu.be/keQR4_7DBnM On 10/30/2014 10:37 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: That would be one weird film :-) Curtis Blues Pre Delta War Blues. Curtis Blues Pre Delta War Blues. Went to visit the Grandparents in old town, and ran into Curtis Blues, before we knew the kids were part of the band. See the CNN piece on him at the bottom ... View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Now I wonder what Nabby would think of your music if David Lynch decided to use a cut of it in a film? ;-) On 10/30/2014 08:17 AM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: What happened to the guy who said that the conversation was over from your side? I guess you are seeking some closure you haven't gotten yet. Let's see if I can help. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You claim you produce art. M: I claim that my music is my art. I make living as a musical artist. Because you erroneously conflate this with me saying I make life changing, ground breaking, masterful, mind blowing, art you have contrived something to criticize me for beyond offering your personal opinion about a video you saw. I simply say that this is MY art. It is how I represent my inner life into a form of sound that is shared with others. The people who pay me to perform it and who buy my CDs like it, I acknowledge that you have weighed in that you don't like the videos you saw of my performance, and most people say : Who? N: I claim you produce noise M: What aspect of this point do you think I have missed? I get it, you have an unfavorable opinion about a video you saw. Check. Message received. You seem to be looking for a different outcome than me recognizing your opinion. Do you think perhaps I might use your opinion to stop working in this field? Do you think with your feedback I will change my musical focus, take up the violin perhaps? I have enjoyed this chat as a writing prompt for considering this public job I do. What you don't seem to realize, as you strive to influence me with your opinion, is that before I ever stand in front of other people to judge my art, I have already spent countless hours passing the audition of my toughest critic, me. Any performing artist spends 99 per cent of his or her time alone mastering their art to their own satisfaction. I play the way I like, that is why I am at peace with people who don't like it. Of course I don't usually hear from them so this has been a bit of an opportunity for reflection and I thank you for that. And despite your persistently curmudgeonly view of my work, I get a lot of positive feedback because I put on excellent shows. I work hard at it like most conscientious people in their jobs and I get the job done. Performing is a weird line of work in that your job performance review is simultaneous to you doing the job. But even if audiences took your POV and rejected my music, I would still be playing it this way. I would just not be getting paid for it! Like most people with a desire to express themselves through art, I would only perform for myself and whatever girlfriend I was torturing with my music at the time. The positive or negative feedback from other people doesn't change an artist's need to express their inner life the way they do. You don't seem to understand this fact about artists. So instead you are caught up in a world of thinking your harsh statements should affect me in some way. Art doesn't come from that place you can reach with your words. It isn't sustained by people appreciating what an artist produces. Artists live in the world beyond all the rise and fall of outer opinions. Many great artists were only appreciate after their death, Robert Johnson included. He was not popular in his day. He was struggling till the day he died. That is one of the many reasons I devote my life to bringing the gift of the arts into schools. It is a gift of self expression that can infuse a life with meaning and beauty. So I accept your opinion, but reject your view of art as an elitist activity for a certain few who are deemed (who deems them again, you?) worthy of using the word art. You are on the wrong side of the hater fence Nabbie. Not about my music, you are welcome to your judgement,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Giants Win World Series!
I've bought some packages of chocolate candies earlier this week. So, I'm ready for the kids to visit the house. We'll find out tomorrow night.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Giants Win World Series!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I've bought some packages of chocolate candies earlier this week. So, I'm ready for the kids to visit the house. We'll find out tomorrow night. What happens if you don't give them a treat, do they still egg your house or something?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Giants Win World Series!
I don't do treats and just leave the porch light off and cover over the door window. Nextdoor.com had a sign-up for creating a map of houses that offered treats or not. This year I have a camera pointed at the entrance so I will see what happens. Someone on that site in another nearby area said they got 900 kids a year or so ago. That's really crazy not to mention a small fortune in candy. On 10/30/2014 12:05 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I've bought some packages of chocolate candies earlier this week. So, I'm ready for the kids to visit the house. We'll find out tomorrow night.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Giants Win World Series!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I don't do treats and just leave the porch light off and cover over the door window. Nextdoor.com had a sign-up for creating a map of houses that offered treats or not. This year I have a camera pointed at the entrance so I will see what happens. Someone on that site in another nearby area said they got 900 kids a year or so ago. That's really crazy not to mention a small fortune in candy. 900 LOL! I'd turn a hose on the scrounging little buggers, all those sweets will rot their teeth. Try giving them a bit of ginger or a grape or something ;-) Apparently it's become the norm over here for parents to only let kids knock on doors where there is a signal that it's OK to do so, like a lit pumpkin lantern in the window. On 10/30/2014 12:05 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I've bought some packages of chocolate candies earlier this week. So, I'm ready for the kids to visit the house. We'll find out tomorrow night.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Always a problem with figuring out whether a performer wants you to comp or be the time keeper. These days I might ask. I backed James Caan once for some 3/4 blues but it was more like 3/4 1 and 7/8s. :-D On 10/30/2014 11:49 AM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: That is so badass I can hardly stand it. I didn't know that about you. Guys like Lighting just went where they felt like it whenever they wanted. I miss some of the raggedy irregularity of those guys. Can't imagine backing him though! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Here's someone I once giged with though a bit of a nightmare for any drummer as he tended to drop beats. :-D http://youtu.be/keQR4_7DBnM On 10/30/2014 10:37 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: That would be one weird film :-) Curtis Blues Pre Delta War Blues. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk image https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk Curtis Blues Pre Delta War Blues. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk Went to visit the Grandparents in old town, and ran into Curtis Blues, before we knew the kids were part of the band. See the CNN piece on him at the bottom ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Now I wonder what Nabby would think of your music if David Lynch decided to use a cut of it in a film? ;-) On 10/30/2014 08:17 AM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: What happened to the guy who said that the conversation was over from your side? I guess you are seeking some closure you haven't gotten yet. Let's see if I can help. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You claim you produce art. M: I claim that my music is my art. I make living as a musical artist. Because you erroneously conflate this with me saying I make life changing, ground breaking, masterful, mind blowing, art you have contrived something to criticize me for beyond offering your personal opinion about a video you saw. I simply say that this is MY art. It is how I represent my inner life into a form of sound that is shared with others. The people who pay me to perform it and who buy my CDs like it, I acknowledge that you have weighed in that you don't like the videos you saw of my performance, and most people say : Who? N: I claim you produce noise M: What aspect of this point do you think I have missed? I get it, you have an unfavorable opinion about a video you saw. Check. Message received. You seem to be looking for a different outcome than me recognizing your opinion. Do you think perhaps I might use your opinion to stop working in this field? Do you think with your feedback I will change my musical focus, take up the violin perhaps? I have enjoyed this chat as a writing prompt for considering this public job I do. What you don't seem to realize, as you strive to influence me with your opinion, is that before I ever stand in front of other people to judge my art, I have already spent countless hours passing the audition of my toughest critic, me. Any performing artist spends 99 per cent of his or her time alone mastering their art to their own satisfaction. I play the way I like, that is why I am at peace with people who don't like it. Of course I don't usually hear from them so this has been a bit of an opportunity for reflection and I thank you for that. And despite your persistently curmudgeonly view of my work, I get a lot of positive feedback because I put on excellent shows. I work hard at it like most conscientious people in their jobs and I get the job done. Performing is a weird line of work in that your job performance review is simultaneous to you doing the job. But even if audiences took your POV and rejected my music, I would still be playing it this way. I would just not be getting paid for it! Like most people with a desire to express themselves through art, I would only perform for myself and whatever girlfriend I was torturing with my music at the time. The positive or negative feedback from other people doesn't change an artist's need to express their inner life the way they do. You don't seem to understand this fact about artists. So instead you are caught up in a world of thinking your harsh statements should affect me in some way. Art doesn't come from that place you can reach with your words. It isn't sustained by people appreciating what an artist produces. Artists live in the world beyond all the rise and fall of outer
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Fascinating distinction. This is why I do my own drumming. It lets me go with the feeling of the moment. Lately I've been studying African and Afro-Caribbean rhythms. Very challenging but also stimulating to my whole sense of rhythm. I wish I was a dancer, that is how to groove these in better. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Always a problem with figuring out whether a performer wants you to comp or be the time keeper. These days I might ask. I backed James Caan once for some 3/4 blues but it was more like 3/4 1 and 7/8s. :-D On 10/30/2014 11:49 AM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: That is so badass I can hardly stand it. I didn't know that about you. Guys like Lighting just went where they felt like it whenever they wanted. I miss some of the raggedy irregularity of those guys. Can't imagine backing him though! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Here's someone I once giged with though a bit of a nightmare for any drummer as he tended to drop beats. :-D http://youtu.be/keQR4_7DBnM http://youtu.be/keQR4_7DBnM On 10/30/2014 10:37 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: That would be one weird film :-) Curtis Blues Pre Delta War Blues. Curtis Blues Pre Delta War Blues. Went to visit the Grandparents in old town, and ran into Curtis Blues, before we knew the kids were part of the band. See the CNN piece on him at the bottom ... View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Now I wonder what Nabby would think of your music if David Lynch decided to use a cut of it in a film? ;-) On 10/30/2014 08:17 AM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: What happened to the guy who said that the conversation was over from your side? I guess you are seeking some closure you haven't gotten yet. Let's see if I can help. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You claim you produce art. M: I claim that my music is my art. I make living as a musical artist. Because you erroneously conflate this with me saying I make life changing, ground breaking, masterful, mind blowing, art you have contrived something to criticize me for beyond offering your personal opinion about a video you saw. I simply say that this is MY art. It is how I represent my inner life into a form of sound that is shared with others. The people who pay me to perform it and who buy my CDs like it, I acknowledge that you have weighed in that you don't like the videos you saw of my performance, and most people say : Who? N: I claim you produce noise M: What aspect of this point do you think I have missed? I get it, you have an unfavorable opinion about a video you saw. Check. Message received. You seem to be looking for a different outcome than me recognizing your opinion. Do you think perhaps I might use your opinion to stop working in this field? Do you think with your feedback I will change my musical focus, take up the violin perhaps? I have enjoyed this chat as a writing prompt for considering this public job I do. What you don't seem to realize, as you strive to influence me with your opinion, is that before I ever stand in front of other people to judge my art, I have already spent countless hours passing the audition of my toughest critic, me. Any performing artist spends 99 per cent of his or her time alone mastering their art to their own satisfaction. I play the way I like, that is why I am at peace with people who don't like it. Of course I don't usually hear from them so this has been a bit of an opportunity for reflection and I thank you for that. And despite your persistently curmudgeonly view of my work, I get a lot of positive feedback because I put on excellent shows. I work hard at it like most conscientious people in their jobs and I get the job done. Performing is a weird line of work in that your job performance review is simultaneous to you doing the job. But even if audiences took your POV and rejected my music, I would still be playing it this way. I would just not be getting paid for it! Like most people with a desire to express themselves through art, I would only perform for myself and whatever girlfriend I was torturing with my music at the time. The positive or negative feedback from other people doesn't change an artist's need to express their inner life the way they do. You don't seem to understand this fact about artists. So instead you are caught up in a world of thinking your harsh statements should affect me in some way. Art doesn't come from that place you can reach with your words. It isn't sustained
Re: [FairfieldLife] Giants Win World Series!
On 10/30/2014 12:35 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I don't do treats and just leave the porch light off and cover over the door window. Nextdoor.com had a sign-up for creating a map of houses that offered treats or not. This year I have a camera pointed at the entrance so I will see what happens. Someone on that site in another nearby area said they got 900 kids a year or so ago. That's really crazy not to mention a small fortune in candy. 900 LOL! I'd turn a hose on the scrounging little buggers, all those sweets will rot their teeth. Try giving them a bit of ginger or a grape or something ;-) My mother always baked chocolate drop cookies which were made with semi-sweet chocolate for Halloween and were very popular. Now homemade goodies are a no-no. When she made these she would break off a bit of the semi-sweet chocolate bar and give to me. So as a little kid I developed a taste for dark chocolate. Note that the candy companies don't have any dark chocolate treats as kids are not supposed to like them. Not so for my great nieces and nephews though. Of course back then candy only had sugar not HFCS though water hoarder Nestle's seems to have dropped HFCS from their products. I also grew up in a small town where it was fun to see how the kids dressed up because we knew them all. I stopped giving out treats when I got all of two treaters at the apartment complex I lived in back in the 1990s. When I moved into this house my sister and brother in-law liked to spend Halloween having dinner somewhere and then a movie so I would join them. That's what I did up until two years ago. Apparently it's become the norm over here for parents to only let kids knock on doors where there is a signal that it's OK to do so, like a lit pumpkin lantern in the window. Around here if you are treating you leave the porch light on. Last year I even heard a father ward his kids off saying you're not supposed to go to the houses if the porch light is off. I have a motion sensing light and if I turn it off then back on after the treaters are finished rounds, the damn thing goes into test mode all night. So this year I'm just going to loosen the bulbs so they can't come on then tighten them up afterward. On 10/30/2014 12:05 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I've bought some packages of chocolate candies earlier this week. So, I'm ready for the kids to visit the house. We'll find out tomorrow night.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
I would often play to the dancers on gigs. It got them more into the music. I also had a girlfriend who was a very good dancer and was fun to play to. On 10/30/2014 01:06 PM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Fascinating distinction. This is why I do my own drumming. It lets me go with the feeling of the moment. Lately I've been studying African and Afro-Caribbean rhythms. Very challenging but also stimulating to my whole sense of rhythm. I wish I was a dancer, that is how to groove these in better. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Always a problem with figuring out whether a performer wants you to comp or be the time keeper. These days I might ask. I backed James Caan once for some 3/4 blues but it was more like 3/4 1 and 7/8s. :-D On 10/30/2014 11:49 AM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: That is so badass I can hardly stand it. I didn't know that about you. Guys like Lighting just went where they felt like it whenever they wanted. I miss some of the raggedy irregularity of those guys. Can't imagine backing him though! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Here's someone I once giged with though a bit of a nightmare for any drummer as he tended to drop beats. :-D http://youtu.be/keQR4_7DBnM On 10/30/2014 10:37 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: That would be one weird film :-) Curtis Blues Pre Delta War Blues. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk image https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk Curtis Blues Pre Delta War Blues. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk Went to visit the Grandparents in old town, and ran into Curtis Blues, before we knew the kids were part of the band. See the CNN piece on him at the bottom ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUk7NexVhGk Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Now I wonder what Nabby would think of your music if David Lynch decided to use a cut of it in a film? ;-) On 10/30/2014 08:17 AM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: What happened to the guy who said that the conversation was over from your side? I guess you are seeking some closure you haven't gotten yet. Let's see if I can help. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You claim you produce art. M: I claim that my music is my art. I make living as a musical artist. Because you erroneously conflate this with me saying I make life changing, ground breaking, masterful, mind blowing, art you have contrived something to criticize me for beyond offering your personal opinion about a video you saw. I simply say that this is MY art. It is how I represent my inner life into a form of sound that is shared with others. The people who pay me to perform it and who buy my CDs like it, I acknowledge that you have weighed in that you don't like the videos you saw of my performance, and most people say : Who? N: I claim you produce noise M: What aspect of this point do you think I have missed? I get it, you have an unfavorable opinion about a video you saw. Check. Message received. You seem to be looking for a different outcome than me recognizing your opinion. Do you think perhaps I might use your opinion to stop working in this field? Do you think with your feedback I will change my musical focus, take up the violin perhaps? I have enjoyed this chat as a writing prompt for considering this public job I do. What you don't seem to realize, as you strive to influence me with your opinion, is that before I ever stand in front of other people to judge my art, I have already spent countless hours passing the audition of my toughest critic, me. Any performing artist spends 99 per cent of his or her time alone mastering their art to their own satisfaction. I play the way I like, that is why I am at peace with people who don't like it. Of course I don't usually hear from them so this has been a bit of an opportunity for reflection and I thank you for that. And despite your persistently curmudgeonly view of my work, I get a lot of positive feedback because I put on excellent shows. I work hard at it like most conscientious people in their jobs and I get the job
Re: [FairfieldLife] Giants Win World Series!
Scrooges do Halloween too, eh? Geeze, with all the sugar in all the products out there, it would be hard to claim that Halloween candy has a significant impact. What the parents allow the kids to eat all year long...there's your significance. Meanwhile, I just came home with 100 bucks worth. I give each kid about a dollar's worth. Sue me.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Selling your musical taste as more than that isn't gunna get any traction from my fans here. So, you have fans here now ? We know this place is populated by some pretty weird souls but who would have guessed they are your fans !
Re: [FairfieldLife] Giants Win World Series!
I've never seen any signs vandalism from the kids. They're usually accompanied by adults who remain outside. The kids are the ones that knock on the door for treats. Most of the kids are about 7 to 9 years old. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I've bought some packages of chocolate candies earlier this week. So, I'm ready for the kids to visit the house. We'll find out tomorrow night. What happens if you don't give them a treat, do they still egg your house or something?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Have you been watching Lena Dunham's Girls? On 10/30/2014 02:50 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: Selling your musical taste as more than that isn't gunna get any traction from my fans here. So, you have fans here now ? We know this place is populated by some pretty weird souls but who would have guessed they are your fans !
Re: [FairfieldLife] Giants Win World Series!
$100? What did you do, buy all organic turbinado sweetened goodies at Whole Wallet? :-D On 10/30/2014 01:42 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Scrooges do Halloween too, eh? Geeze, with all the sugar in all the products out there, it would be hard to claim that Halloween candy has a significant impact. What the parents allow the kids to eat all year long...there's your significance. Meanwhile, I just came home with 100 bucks worth. I give each kid about a dollar's worth. Sue me.
Re: [FairfieldLife] A couple movie trailers
On 10/30/2014 09:04 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Thanks. The second one sounds great, and I'll look for it -- Joss' comment was perfect...it's insane, and only an insane person would subject themselves to it, but he misses it. As for the first one, it looks a little too much like one of those I *believe* that I control everyone around me, so it must be true fantasies that crazy people tend to have. LFO is a Swedish dark comedy/drama/Sci-Fi about a man who realizes that he can hypnotize with sound. He starts experimenting on his neighbors, where the abuse of power takes over and, eventually, severe consequences for mankind are at stake. Sounds like a hoot to me! *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 4:56 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] A couple movie trailers These open tomorrow. The first one is about a little high tech black magic: http://youtu.be/uPcqetBDKbU The second is a documentary about showrunners which includes interviews with JJ Abrams and Josh Whedon: http://youtu.be/aYWRgqRcSO4
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and HIV
Eh, so I watched the webinar. Nothing new was discussed. Apparently the traditional embargo about research that is about to be published holds. Perhaps they scheduled things before they realized that, or perhaps some other issue dictated the timing. As it is, we really only learned that 1) Bobby Roth's brother is gay and is a TM teacher and that HE spearheaded the formation of the new HIV branch of the DLF; 2) many people with HIV who have learned TM apparently are enthusiastic about it. It IS significant in one sense though: it puts the DLF and by extension, the TM organization, squarely in the it's ok if you are gay camp, which is a huge change the stance the higher ups in the TMO has had for many decades, apparently. They announced a project to have the DLF teach 10,000 people with HIV to meditation, which is also significant, and took a firm stance encouraging research on TM and HIV. Inspirational, I guess, but not earth-shattering. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Unless, of course, it works, and works well. The webinar is supposed to be talking about new research. Apparently it has been accepted for publication but not yet published. I thought that many journals put an embargo on such discussions once teh research is accepted until such time as it is published, but perhaps this particular journal doesn't have that restriction. If it's just the findings indicated below, I don't see what the fuss is about as those are pretty much what you would expect the effects of TM to be in any severely stressed out population. Perhaps AIDS patients are so unhealthy overall that such improvements are extremely relevant to the community, or perhaps there's some new types of effects that will be revealed. Regardless, since the DLF teaches TM for free to the groups it caters to, I don't see how you can claim they're a bunch of shameless sons of bitches -they're not targeting the HIV sufferers, but other people, AND, the DLF is not paying full price for TM instruction, either. And HIV positive means someone has a viral infection. Even if a person is symptom-free, that doesn't mean that they have been cured of HIV and there's no possible way of reading any claim on the DLF website that I could find that says that TM cures HIV. L HIV http://davidlynchfoundation.org/hiv.html http://davidlynchfoundation.org/hiv.html HIV http://davidlynchfoundation.org/hiv.html Our Foundation was established to ensure that any child in America who wants to learn and practice the Transcendental Meditation program ca... View on davidlynchfo... http://davidlynchfoundation.org/hiv.html Preview by Yahoo Scientific research on HIV-positive individuals practicing TM has shown: 51% decrease in HIV-related physical problems 43% increase in vitality 42% improvement in general health 27% decrease in perceived stress 22% improvement in emotional well being 38% reduction in anxiety 36% reduction in anger and hostility 39% decrease in depressive symptom ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : They aren't claiming TM will cure HIV, but they are edging too close for my comfort. Targeting the most vulnerable populations to garner donations from everyone stupid enough to believe their spiel. What a bunch of shameless sons of bitches. http://hiv.davidlynchfoundation.org/ http://hiv.davidlynchfoundation.org/ http://hiv.davidlynchfoundation.org/; class=ygrps-yiv-2132973606ygrps-yiv-676216112link-enhancr-card-urlWrapper ygrps-yiv-2132973606ygrps-yiv-676216112link-enhancr-element TRANSCENDING HIV/AIDS http://hiv.davidlynchfoundation.org/ About The Webinar View on hiv.davidlynchfoundatio... http://hiv.davidlynchfoundation.org/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
Are the comments on this fluff piece ever going to end? I mean, this has sparked a major analysis on the part of Barry. First it was fluff. Then sal finds something redeeming about it. Barry agrees to look at it again, then launches into a more detailed dissertation, faulting, then not faulting the writer. Then discussing the existent or non existent Brothers of the Cult, (great for Halloween, huh) Then if the BOTC are real, what do you think they discuss. Hell! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : One of the more interesting things in this piece is his reference to a private blog group called Cult Bros which is a group of people who grew up in the Movement: for many of my friends who have left, their relationship with home is a fraught one. Somewhere on the Internet there’s a listserv or private group blog called Cult Bros, where a group of Gen-Xers and Millennials who grew up in the Movement air their grievances. I’m not a Cult Bros member myself, but I can anticipate their conversations — they’d be familiar to anyone who grew up in a community defined by certain dogma, religious or otherwise. There’s the resentment of the years spent trying to be perfect little yogis, frustrations over growing up in what can be a very socially conservative environment, anger at the time and effort and money spent working toward the unattainable goal that is world peace with very little payoff. There’s questioning of the traditions we grew up with, the means to this impossible end — the pujas, the mantras, the jai Guru Devs, the Golden Domes, the yogic flying. Questioning all of the Hindu mythology that’s wrapped up this thing we were told was not a religion. Like anyone from anywhere, the Cult Bros are trying to come to terms with their home. I had a search around but couldn't find them. I thought a good bit of writing was his insight that yogic flying is the TMO's Xenu. I did go back and read the piece in spite of my resistance to it, and would agree, except that the guy doesn't explain what a Xenu moment is, or even what Xenu was about. YOU did that, below, and that is *inclusive* writing, inviting those who don't know and assume the same esoterica that you know into the conversation and including them. As he wrote it, it's *exclusive*, meaning that it's an in joke that he wrote for himself and its probable effect among other TM cultists. Xenu being the Scientology creator god who enslaved a then extraterrestrial humanity a billion years ago and threw our souls into a volcano on Earth (or some such bollocks). The joke is that Scientologists spend decades working towards (and paying) for what is supposed to be the ultimate knowledge and is revealed to you only when you've proved yourself worthy enough. When you've reached these dizzy heights of acceptability you are taken into a room and shown this revealed Truth, written in Elrons own hand no less. A cheap sci-fi novel. Imagine how pissed off you'd be? But no, everyone is so caught up in the mind game that is cult beliefs that they accept it and even feel honoured. All their friends know and believe the great secret so why not? So much to lose if you pull out by then... I remember the first day of my TMSP course when I got the first sutra and found out that it wasn't some enigmatic sanskrit term but the word friendliness. How pissed off was I? A lot. But I stayed and got the rest and practised them for ten years. This is a good point, and I've brought it up before. Can you *believe* that there are still people on this forum who believe that the TMSP is an ancient technique once taught by Patanjali? They say this to strangers who have never learned it, just parroting the same sales pitches that worked on them, but more interestingly they say it to others who *have* learned the TM siddhis. And no one corrects them. Because it's easier to pretend that it's some esoteric, age-old knowledge that they paid thousands of dollars for than it is to admit that they paid all that money for a bunch of phrases in English (or their native language) that they could have gotten -- verbatim -- from a $4.95 paperback version of the Yoga Sutras. (That, after all, is probably where *Maharishi* got the English phrases he sold for thousands of dollars.) The Xenu thang worked because the $cientologists wisely kept it hidden until the students were so far gone into the cult that they wouldn't freak out at how tacky this final revelation was. The TM movement similarly tried to keep the reality of what the TMSP really was secret by telling people What we learn in private we keep private and creating a kind of myth about the Bad Things that would happen to you if you revealed your mantra or (even worse) the oh-so-secret flying sutra,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Growing Up TM
this is all about that adolescent mentality of worrying about what other people think
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[FairfieldLife] Real names of FFLers?
Yeah I'm askin' -- so what? I can't keep these goofy-assed fake names straight and I'm too lazy to make a list of real names by scrounging the posts here. I think one person can have several names -- pisses me off no end. If they've been already outted on FFLthen why not put it here for all to easily find? Permission schmerission.if the name is already known, then why do I have to work to get it? Give it to me, and I'll even repost this thread from time to time and let everyone add to it. I use my real name, so hey, sucks to be you private types, but I mean no threat. If the bill collectors, past wives, cuckolded husbands, and tax man are after you along with the FBI and Mafia, well, of course I understand your need. salyavin808 Bhairitu noozguru steve.sundur nablusoss1008 awoelflebater jr_esq dhamiltony2k5 Mike Dixon mdixon.6569 srijau anartaxius wgm4u LEnglish5 cardemaister s3raphita blue_bungalow_2 martyboi eustace10679 email4you mikemail4you Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius
[FairfieldLife] Re: Real names of FFLers?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Yeah I'm askin' -- so what? I can't keep these goofy-assed fake names straight and I'm too lazy to make a list of real names by scrounging the posts here. I think one person can have several names -- pisses me off no end. If they've been already outted on FFLthen why not put it here for all to easily find? Permission schmerission.if the name is already known, then why do I have to work to get it? Give it to me, and I'll even repost this thread from time to time and let everyone add to it. I use my real name, so hey, sucks to be you private types, but I mean no threat. If the bill collectors, past wives, cuckolded husbands, and tax man are after you along with the FBI and Mafia, well, of course I understand your need. I think you can figure my name out, no nom de plume for me. Just plain old Ann Woelfle Bater. salyavin808 Bhairitu noozguru steve.sundur nablusoss1008 awoelflebater jr_esq dhamiltony2k5 Mike Dixon mdixon.6569 srijau anartaxius wgm4u LEnglish5 cardemaister s3raphita blue_bungalow_2 martyboi eustace10679 email4you mikemail4you Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius
