[FairfieldLife] What we can learn about MMY from Bill Cosby

2014-11-23 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I think there are interesting parallels in terms of both being stuck in the 
past and being stuck in denial here. 
So far, at least 13 women have come forward to say that Bill Cosby drugged and 
raped them, or at the very least, in some way forced them to have sex with him. 
Several other voices (some of them male) have confirmed that there was a whole 
support mechanism in place among Cosby's staff and organization to keep any 
of these rapes from ever becoming public. 

At the same time, the other night at a comedy performance, the audience gave 
Cosby a standing ovation. 

Does anyone else see the parallels here?
- First, how lost in the past do you have to BE to attend a Bill Cosby 
performance, all these years after he's gone over the hill? That's a clear 
parallel to people still caring about Maharishi, who is even more over the 
hill, being...uh...dead, in addition to being discredited. 

- Second, for these Cosby True Believers, nothing they've seen in the press or 
heard seems to bother them. They're still willing to stand and applaud Cosby, 
either refusing to believe that he could possibly have done any wrong, or 
refusing to consider using his position of power to rape women wrong. Another 
clear parallel to what TM True Believers do when new tales of Maharishi 
screwing his women students come out. They find ways to ignore them completely, 
so that they can continue idolizing MMY. 

- Third, notice what the Cosby True Believers say about these women coming 
forward. They call them names, Liars! being the least of them, and 
demonstrate their misogyny with every word. The MMY supporters do the exact 
same thing, demonizing the women who have had the courage to tell the truth 
about both how Maharishi seduced them, and then went out of his way to hide it. 

All in all, it looks like the behavior of True Believers is equally shameful, 
whether they're clinging to their illusions about Bill Cosby, or about 
Maharishi...
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!!

2014-11-23 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Here is an apt re-run, from yesterday: 

 Dream on. Nobody is planning to do anything, with you, or to you. Such a 
Walter Mitty type, aren't you? You live in your little room, watching TV, and 
build empty fantasies about how interested we are in you.  

 Nothing could be further from the truth, Barry. You get attention, by being an 
asshole. No one gives a damn about you, otherwise. Get used to it. We'll still 
be posting here when you are dead, with no one giving you a second thought. 
 

 The really creepy bit, as Edg, Emily, Steve, Judy, Sal, Richard, Nabby, Share, 
Dr. Pete, Rick, Alex, Bhairitu, Ann, Bob, Robin, Rory, and many, many others 
have already noted, is that you know you are broken, you know you aren't 
enlightened, you know your social skills are anti-social, you know all this 
doesn't help one bit, and yet you just can't help yourself. 
 

 You are One Sick Monkey, dude. Perhaps reliving the glory days with Freddie 
will help...now, run along and fantasize some more - you are SO good at it! :-) 
:-) :-)

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 10:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! 
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anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] included below] What might lie at the bottom of 
Barry's barrel? Barry just m  Barry's classification.
 

 Disclaimer: This post is not meant to impune the intelligence of anyone, 
whether they be highly intelligent or highly unintelligent. After all, only the 
enlightened are aware of the nature of the intelligence of the universe, how it 
works, and what has it, and where it is actually located.
 

 

 I think we ought to allow the Post Count to determine the bottom of the 
barrel. So far this week, the person who claims to be enlightened has 
demonstrated the highest degree of obsession, making 31 posts in one day, MOST 
of them about a person he claims is beneath notice and beneath contempt (moi). 
I leave you to puzzle out whether that sounds enlightened to you or just 
jealous. 

 

 Similarly, Share seems to have done little else but Obsess On Barry, as have 
Richard and Ann and Steve. Just another Saturday at Fairfield Life. 

 

 Since all of these people have gone out of their way in the past and the 
present to comment about how LOW Barry is, and yet they choose to focus almost 
all of their writings on him anyway, I think we have to assume that they are 
the LOWEST in terms of intelligence. What you focus on, you become...and all 
that... :-)
 

 On another level, it should be obvious by now that none of them is able to 
think of anything to post EXCEPT ragging on Barry. I have become the catalyst 
that allows them to pretend that they actually have something to say. Seems to 
me they should be thanking me for providing them a much-needed writing 
prompt.  :-)

















[FairfieldLife] Re: What we can learn about serial rapist Frederick Lenz from Bill Cosby

2014-11-23 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Your mind is going...:-)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 I think there are interesting parallels in terms of both being stuck in the 
past and being stuck in denial here. 
 

 So far, at least 13 women have come forward to say that Bill Cosby drugged and 
raped them, or at the very least, in some way forced them to have sex with him. 
Several other voices (some of them male) have confirmed that there was a whole 
support mechanism in place among Cosby's staff and organization to keep any 
of these rapes from ever becoming public. 

 

 At the same time, the other night at a comedy performance, the audience gave 
Cosby a standing ovation. 

 

 Does anyone else see the parallels here?
 

 - First, how lost in the past do you have to BE to attend a Bill Cosby 
performance, all these years after he's gone over the hill? That's a clear 
parallel to people still caring about Maharishi, who is even more over the 
hill, being...uh...dead, in addition to being discredited. 

 

 - Second, for these Cosby True Believers, nothing they've seen in the press or 
heard seems to bother them. They're still willing to stand and applaud Cosby, 
either refusing to believe that he could possibly have done any wrong, or 
refusing to consider using his position of power to rape women wrong. Another 
clear parallel to what TM True Believers do when new tales of Maharishi 
screwing his women students come out. They find ways to ignore them completely, 
so that they can continue idolizing MMY. 

 

 - Third, notice what the Cosby True Believers say about these women coming 
forward. They call them names, Liars! being the least of them, and 
demonstrate their misogyny with every word. The MMY supporters do the exact 
same thing, demonizing the women who have had the courage to tell the truth 
about both how Maharishi seduced them, and then went out of his way to hide it. 

 

 All in all, it looks like the behavior of True Believers is equally shameful, 
whether they're clinging to their illusions about Bill Cosby, or about 
Maharishi...
 

 A Complete List of the Women Who Have Accused Bill Cosby of Sexual Assault 
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/11/21/bill_cosby_accusers_list_sexual_assault_rape_drugs_feature_in_women_s_stories.html?wpsrc=sh_all_dt_tw_ru
 

  
  
 
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 A Complete List of the Women Who Have Accused Bill Cos... 
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 The following women have alleged as a matter of public record that Bill Cosby 
sexually assaulted or raped them. They are listed in the order their 
allegations becam...


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!!

2014-11-23 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I am just curious, as your thoughts really don't address anything, do you smoke 
a lot of weed??
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 
 I am reattaching that image of the barrel with the TM thought bubbles. 
Maharishi said, concerning a 'bad' thought that 'they are rotten to the core'. 
That could give one pause as to the ultimate origin of rottenness. Also if one 
reacts to a 'bad' thought someone expresses, from where does the 'bad' arise, 
with the person who expresses the thought, or the person who interprets the 
thought. 
 

 Think of ISIS (or ISIL), a group of people who seem utterly in the thrall of 
certain thought forms. They seem to think what they are doing is good, while in 
the West we tend to think of them as deranged and horrifying, so who is right? 
If we do not like those thoughts they have, we can label them as dangerous to 
our way of life and attempt to destroy the containers of those thoughts as a 
practical measure without considering their ultimate character as good or bad, 
much in the way chemotherapy can destroy cancer, which is a naturally occurring 
process that brings ill health to the body. All individual beings die from one 
thing or another as a result of the flow of natural processes. Good health and 
ill health are equally a part of nature. Naturally we want good health for the 
body, but nature ultimately never complies with that wish.
 

 Ultimately all thoughts spring from processes occurring naturally, and if one 
conceptualises the world as emerging from being according to natural law, the 
rottenness of thoughts that we encounter have a more overreaching source than 
an individual body. So if we do not like something, certainly there is 
something out there beyond our individual body that we react to, but the 
reaction springs wholly from within our body, so as our thoughts measure the 
world that our mind interprets.
 

 From the Tao Te Ching:
 

 When the world knows beauty as beauty, ugliness arises
When it knows good as good, evil arises
Thus being and non-being produce each other
Difficult and easy bring about each other
Long and short reveal each other
High and low support each other
Music and voice harmonize each other
Front and back follow each other
Therefore the sages:
Manage the work of detached actions
Conduct the teaching of no words
They work with myriad things but do not control
They create but do not possess
They act but do not presume
They succeed but do not dwell on success
It is because they do not dwell on success
That it never goes away
 

 ===

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 What might lie at the bottom of Barry's barrel?
 

 Obviously, he does, and calls it home. I have *another* name for it. :-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 What might lie at the bottom of Barry's barrel? Barry just made an offer that 
would, if accepted by John, would put Jim up one notch on the ladder of 
intelligence, per Barry's classification. 

 Disclaimer: This post is not meant to impune the intelligence of anyone, 
whether they be highly intelligent or highly unintelligent. After all, only the 
enlightened are aware of the nature of the intelligence of the universe, how it 
works, and what has it, and where it is actually located.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 Barry is in a race with himself, to the bottom of the barrel. And look, he's 
winning! LOL
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
   Hey Barry,
 

 Speaking of lying, you've started this thread with a lie dude.  

 

 THAT is what's put a bug up your ass? My Subject line for this thread?  

 

 No problemo. I didn't mean to start a dick-size contest between you and Jimbo. 

 

 If you are offended at being considered less dumb than Jim Flanegin, I retract 
the statement. You can be the dumbest.
 

 


















  


  




[FairfieldLife] Another test of who is the dumbest person on FFL

2014-11-23 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Since so many seem to be vying for this position, I propose another test to 
help determine the winner. Uh...I mean, the ultimate loser. 

JohnR has already expressed his dismay at having been considered less dumb than 
Jim, so I graciously retracted my suggestion that JimF is dumber, and allowed 
JohnR to retain his title. 

BUT, in other threads, Nabby seems to be moving down the list towards the 
bottom fast in *his* attempt to be considered the Dumbest by coming out as a 
fan of cannibalism. You've got to admit that considering Indian vagrants who 
eat other people saints is pretty dumb, and tough to beat. That's even dumber 
than Waiting For Maitreya, which was Nabby's previous low mark in terms of 
Dumbnessitude. 

Therefore I suggest that if there needs to be a tie-breaker to decide whether 
JohnR or JimF are really the Dumbest, the title will go to whichever one of 
them piles on to the pro-cannibalism idea first and supports Nabby in his 
quest for the taste of human flesh. 

I don't see any of the rest of the bottom-dwellers (Steve, Share, Ann, Richard) 
as having the ability to think on their own enough to win the Who Will Consume 
Human Flesh First contest, so I'm going to give the edge to JimF in this 
contest. After all, he's *already* moved out into the boonies, where there are 
fewer people around to notice if some of them go missing at the same time Jim 
seems to be preparing a new buncha meat for the winter in his smokehouse. 

The only question seems to be whether Jimbo will share any of his Long Pig with 
Nabby, who, after all, suggested it first. If that happens, I suggest that we 
allow JimF and Nabby to share the title of Dumbest, with JohnR in second 
place. 
 


[FairfieldLife] Re: Another test of who is the dumbest person on FFL

2014-11-23 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Seriously?? This is one of your dumbest, most contrived posts, ever, and that 
is saying something... 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Since so many seem to be vying for this position, I propose another test to 
help determine the winner. Uh...I mean, the ultimate loser. 

 

 JohnR has already expressed his dismay at having been considered less dumb 
than Jim, so I graciously retracted my suggestion that JimF is dumber, and 
allowed JohnR to retain his title. 

 

 BUT, in other threads, Nabby seems to be moving down the list towards the 
bottom fast in *his* attempt to be considered the Dumbest by coming out as a 
fan of cannibalism. You've got to admit that considering Indian vagrants who 
eat other people saints is pretty dumb, and tough to beat. That's even dumber 
than Waiting For Maitreya, which was Nabby's previous low mark in terms of 
Dumbnessitude. 

 

 Therefore I suggest that if there needs to be a tie-breaker to decide whether 
JohnR or JimF are really the Dumbest, the title will go to whichever one of 
them piles on to the pro-cannibalism idea first and supports Nabby in his 
quest for the taste of human flesh. 

 

 I don't see any of the rest of the bottom-dwellers (Steve, Share, Ann, 
Richard) as having the ability to think on their own enough to win the Who Will 
Consume Human Flesh First contest, so I'm going to give the edge to JimF in 
this contest. After all, he's *already* moved out into the boonies, where there 
are fewer people around to notice if some of them go missing at the same time 
Jim seems to be preparing a new buncha meat for the winter in his smokehouse. 

 

 The only question seems to be whether Jimbo will share any of his Long Pig 
with Nabby, who, after all, suggested it first. If that happens, I suggest that 
we allow JimF and Nabby to share the title of Dumbest, with JohnR in second 
place. 

  
 






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!!

2014-11-23 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
He is available - Its a language difference, Steve. When Barry refers to 
mountain climbing, the rest of us oughta know, he refers to carrying that 
beer-belly up three flights of stairs. To him, that's an expedition...Sorta 
like when you or I would go out to buy a book or something, Barry travels 
through portals of time and space. Similarly, what looks like him walking his 
dog, is actually a sacred convo between Master (the dog), and Barry (the other 
dog). Once you learn Barry-speak, its a breeze! 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 He just walked into it.  The thing he was berating you about, he just walked 
into it.  Admitting he made horrible error, of taking something someone said 
at face value. 

 He may conveniently be on his mountain climbing expedition and conveniently 
can't respond.
 

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :

 Steve, turq wasn't the only one who went silent with that image of me 
undressing him! Talk about thought stopper!
 Anyway, for posterity, here's what I had written:
 
 dear *dear * turq, hopefully you see the irony of your first sentence! 
Otherwise we are doomed doomed doomed!

 MAYBE when you admit you were wrong about CS series, I will admit my total 
wrongness. MAYBE...
 

 In his first sentence, turq had written that, on that ill-fated one and only 
*date*, he believed someone when she told him that the Chicken Soup series 
began in FF. Guess I'm not the only gullible idiot in the Funny Farm Lounge 
(-: 



 From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 8:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!!
 
 
   Share, Barry's gone silent on this one, and I cants sez that I blame him.
 

 To his credit.  To his credit, however, if it were Judy, and she were caught 
in such a trap of her own makings, we could be in for a two to three week spin 
of why she didn't just hoist herself on her own petard.
 

 Maybe Barry has enough dignity to remain silent and appear stupid, (which he 
is, in this instance), than to open his mouth and remove all doubt.
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 Share, that is brilliant! 

 Barry probably won't get it, but you just undressed him.
 

 I'm not looking but if that's the case, for God's sake and all of the rest of 
us, get him dressed!
 

 
 
 














































































































 


 



















Re: [FairfieldLife] Another test of who is the dumbest person on FFL

2014-11-23 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

Since so many seem to be vying for this position, I propose another test to 
help determine the winner. Uh...I mean, the ultimate loser. 
JohnR has already expressed his dismay at having been considered less dumb than 
Jim, so I graciously retracted my suggestion that JimF is dumber, and allowed 
JohnR to retain his title. 

BUT, in other threads, Nabby seems to be moving down the list towards the 
bottom fast in *his* attempt to be considered the Dumbest by coming out as a 
fan of cannibalism. You've got to admit that considering Indian vagrants who 
eat other people saints is pretty dumb, and tough to beat. That's even dumber 
than Waiting For Maitreya, which was Nabby's previous low mark in terms of 
Dumbnessitude. 

Therefore I suggest that if there needs to be a tie-breaker to decide whether 
JohnR or JimF are really the Dumbest, the title will go to whichever one of 
them piles on to the pro-cannibalism idea first and supports Nabby in his 
quest for the taste of human flesh. 

I don't see any of the rest of the bottom-dwellers (Steve, Share, Ann, Richard) 
as having the ability to think on their own enough to win the Who Will Consume 
Human Flesh First contest, so I'm going to give the edge to JimF in this 
contest. After all, he's *already* moved out into the boonies, where there are 
fewer people around to notice if some of them go missing at the same time Jim 
seems to be preparing a new buncha meat for the winter in his smokehouse. 

The only question seems to be whether Jimbo will share any of his Long Pig with 
Nabby, who, after all, suggested it first. If that happens, I suggest that we 
allow JimF and Nabby to share the title of Dumbest, with JohnR in second 
place. 
 
Aha. Now we understand why Maharishi ripped off the Burger King crown for his 
Rajas:




  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another test of who is the dumbest person on FFL

2014-11-23 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Perhaps you can move UP, and share a few 'knock, knock' jokes with us - LOL
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 

 Since so many seem to be vying for this position, I propose another test to 
help determine the winner. Uh...I mean, the ultimate loser. 
 

 JohnR has already expressed his dismay at having been considered less dumb 
than Jim, so I graciously retracted my suggestion that JimF is dumber, and 
allowed JohnR to retain his title. 

 

 BUT, in other threads, Nabby seems to be moving down the list towards the 
bottom fast in *his* attempt to be considered the Dumbest by coming out as a 
fan of cannibalism. You've got to admit that considering Indian vagrants who 
eat other people saints is pretty dumb, and tough to beat. That's even dumber 
than Waiting For Maitreya, which was Nabby's previous low mark in terms of 
Dumbnessitude. 

 

 Therefore I suggest that if there needs to be a tie-breaker to decide whether 
JohnR or JimF are really the Dumbest, the title will go to whichever one of 
them piles on to the pro-cannibalism idea first and supports Nabby in his 
quest for the taste of human flesh. 

 

 I don't see any of the rest of the bottom-dwellers (Steve, Share, Ann, 
Richard) as having the ability to think on their own enough to win the Who Will 
Consume Human Flesh First contest, so I'm going to give the edge to JimF in 
this contest. After all, he's *already* moved out into the boonies, where there 
are fewer people around to notice if some of them go missing at the same time 
Jim seems to be preparing a new buncha meat for the winter in his smokehouse. 

 

 The only question seems to be whether Jimbo will share any of his Long Pig 
with Nabby, who, after all, suggested it first. If that happens, I suggest that 
we allow JimF and Nabby to share the title of Dumbest, with JohnR in second 
place. 

  
 

 Aha. Now we understand why Maharishi ripped off the Burger King crown for his 
Rajas:
 
 


 

 

 


















[FairfieldLife] Barry's failure this morning

2014-11-23 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I wrote yesterday about these changing times, how the light is reaching 
everywhere now. Just now, I glanced at my PC and saw that Barry, thinking most 
of us asleep, tried to quietly lay a few turds on the FFL doorstep,  sit back 
for a few hours, and watch the outrage, as we awaken (as he often has in the 
past).
 

 Didn't work. Not even close. I shot his stuff down without thinking twice 
about it. Those who live in the dark, who sneak around, will always be 
discovered now. The more Barry rants, the more we find out about him. Mostly, 
how little he has to offer.
 



[FairfieldLife] Zen koan of the day

2014-11-23 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Why is someone who claims to be fully enlightened still up at 2 a.m. obsessing 
about someone he claims is beneath him? Why would an enlightened person have 
spent the previous 24 hours writing almost 40 posts about the person he claims 
is beneath him? 

If all of this makes sense to you, perhaps you should sign up to learn 
Jimbo-Enlightenment. 
But watch out if he invites you over for dinner...  :-)






[FairfieldLife] Re: Zen koan of the day

2014-11-23 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
PLEASE READ THIS, Barry - It tells you everything you want to know.  

 Dream on. Nobody is planning to do anything, with you, or to you. Such a 
Walter Mitty type, aren't you? You live in your little room, watching TV, and 
build empty fantasies about how interested we are in you.  

 Nothing could be further from the truth, Barry. You get attention, by being an 
asshole. No one gives a damn about you, otherwise. Get used to it. We'll still 
be posting here when you are dead, with no one giving you a second thought. 
 

 The really creepy bit, as Edg, Emily, Steve, Judy, Sal, Richard, Nabby, Share, 
Dr. Pete, Rick, Alex, Bhairitu, Ann, Bob, Robin, Rory, and many, many others 
have already noted, is that you know you are broken, you know you aren't 
enlightened, you know your social skills are anti-social, you know all this 
doesn't help one bit, and yet you just can't help yourself. 
 

 You are One Sick Monkey, dude. Perhaps reliving the glory days with Freddie 
will help...now, run along and fantasize some more - you are SO good at it! :-) 
:-) :-)

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Why is someone who claims to be fully enlightened still up at 2 a.m. obsessing 
about someone he claims is beneath him? Why would an enlightened person have 
spent the previous 24 hours writing almost 40 posts about the person he claims 
is beneath him? 

 

 If all of this makes sense to you, perhaps you should sign up to learn 
Jimbo-Enlightenment. 
 

 But watch out if he invites you over for dinner...  :-)

 

 
 

 

 







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[FairfieldLife] How to tell you're in Leiden on a Sunday afternoon in November

2014-11-23 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
First, get out and take a walk or a bike ride. If you stay inside, you could be 
anywhere, right?
Now that you're out, do you see gangs of brightly dressed people in black face 
makeup walking around? Hundreds of them? OK, you're in Leiden.
For those of you who have never experienced the Dutch tradition of Sinterklaas 
and his Zwarte Piet companions, it sounds kinda weird. And it probably is, but 
the blackface has been part of the tradition since medieval periods, and people 
aren't about to change it now, even though there have been protests about it 
for racist reasons.
Anyway, it's a lot of fun. Sinterklaas himself arrived yesterday a boat, while 
thousands of parents and their kids cheered his arrival. The Zwarte Piets are 
his helpers, sorta like elves but with more clought. If a kid has been good, 
the Zwarte Piets give them a pepper cookie. If they've been bad, theoretically 
the Zwarte Piets get to throw the kid into a big sack and take him off to 
Spain. Don't ask me what happens to the bad kids once they get there...I've 
never wanted to know.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!!

2014-11-23 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Sorry, turq, but I was experiencing Irony Overwhelm upon reading your demand 
that John apologize to you. And then again when you said you believed something 
that someone told you. Just like I had done! I think I'm recuperated now, MAYBE.
 

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What might lie at the bottom of Barry's barrel? Barry just m  Barry's 
classification.
Disclaimer: This post is not meant to impune the intelligence of anyone, 
whether they be highly intelligent or highly unintelligent. After all, only the 
enlightened are aware of the nature of the intelligence of the universe, how it 
works, and what has it, and where it is actually located.

I think we ought to allow the Post Count to determine the bottom of the 
barrel. So far this week, the person who claims to be enlightened has 
demonstrated the highest degree of obsession, making 31 posts in one day, MOST 
of them about a person he claims is beneath notice and beneath contempt (moi). 
I leave you to puzzle out whether that sounds enlightened to you or just 
jealous. 

Similarly, Share seems to have done little else but Obsess On Barry, as have 
Richard and Ann and Steve. Just another Saturday at Fairfield Life. 

Since all of these people have gone out of their way in the past and the 
present to comment about how LOW Barry is, and yet they choose to focus almost 
all of their writings on him anyway, I think we have to assume that they are 
the LOWEST in terms of intelligence. What you focus on, you become...and all 
that... :-)
On another level, it should be obvious by now that none of them is able to 
think of anything to post EXCEPT ragging on Barry. I have become the catalyst 
that allows them to pretend that they actually have something to say. Seems to 
me they should be thanking me for providing them a much-needed writing 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 11/22/2014 3:14 PM, Tormod Kinnes wrote:

You get a horde of mantras with variants, that is true, but not the 
Advaitic Smartist system that TM traces its first mantras to,


SBS was initiated into the Shankaracharya tradition by his guru, Swami 
Brahmananda Saraswati of the Upper Kashi. It is incumbent on all 
Saraswati Swamis to meditate at least twice every day. Everyone already 
knows this.


Brahmananda Saraswati practiced samaya marga of Sri Vidya, according to 
his biographer. Sri Vidya is a path of internal puja to the deity of the 
Sri Yantra. There are fifteen bija mantras enumerated in the 
Saundalahari composed by the Adi Shankara.


All the Shankaracharya Advaita sannyasin worship Shakti, this is a fact. 
According to Shankara's Soundaryalahari, all saanyasins meditate on the 
bija mantra of Saraswati. That's why SBS gave out the Saraswati bija 
mantra - for people to meditate on.


According to Swami Rama, SBS used to meditate just like TMers do today - 
a meditation that is transcendental. According to Duffy:


/This too, is my understanding of Guru Dev's practice as well. ...via 
mantras and nyasas. I would add that the bija mantras used are the same 
as the mantras used in TM.../


Works cited:

/*The swami is said to have been one of those rare siddhas 
(accomplished ones) who had the knowledge of Sri Vidya/


Rama, Swami (1999) Himalayan Institute, *Living With the Himalayan 
Masters*, page 247


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmananda_Saraswati

Subject: Re: Guru Dev and Sri Vidya
From: James Duffy
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: 2003-04-21 12:17:54 PST

Read more:
http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/srividya.htm

Swami Brahmananda Sarasvati: Srividya siddha; highly respected 
Shankaracharya of Jyotirmya pitha, Shankara Matha, Badrinath:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shankaracharya

/His disciples included Swami Shantanand Saraswati, Transcendental 
Meditation founder Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Swami Swaruananda Saraswati 
and Swami Karpatri. Five months before his death in 1953, he made a will 
naming his disciple, Swami Shantanand Saraswati as his successor./


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmananda_Saraswati



Re: [FairfieldLife] Brain-tenna? Unlock your car, by touching your head

2014-11-23 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
yep, Bhairitu, my food bill per week used to be about $100. Now it's twice 
that! So glad I only eat chicken fish and eggs each only once a week. How do 
families survive?!

  From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 4:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Brain-tenna? Unlock your car, by touching your 
head
   
 On 11/22/2014 12:28 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
  
    Yes, I agree that a larger safety net is necessary, and the bucks for that 
should come from the ultra wealthy who shirk their national responsibility, by 
evading taxes. Otherwise, we will continue to see the middle class disappear, 
and be headed for a second revolution, eventually. 
   
 
 Food prices are climbing very high.  The pound of butter I paid $2.99 for at 
Trader Joes the last time cost me $3.99 the other day. That's a 33% increase.  
I don't eat beef but the price of hamburger is over $4 now.  The riots in 
Greece were because people could no longer afford food not because they were 
economic experts.  Only a matter of time until riots begin here and the 
government is trying to be proactive but just the wrong way.
 
 

   Part of the issue, is that corporate titans are seen as great visionaries 
and geniuses, instead of simply being true to their charter,  which is to turn 
as big a profit, as possible, resources and populations be damned. We need real 
leaders, not Warren Buffet and a bunch of unethical salesmen, running this 
country. 
  
 
 But being in tech also you know the corporate titans are not the visionaries.  
They buy small companies started by people who are visionary or accidentally 
(more often than not) created something visionary.
 
 
  
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
 
  One of the ways of doing it would be guaranteed annual income.  That's a 
safety net and keeps people from becoming desperate.  In fact the crime 
reduction it might produce might pay for it.  You can look up the different 
countries implementing it and see how they are going to pay for it.  Otherwise 
limit how much money anyone can have because we're seeing that billionaires are 
mentally ill and don't  deserve the power they wield.
 
 Americans are so brainwashed with a Tarzan like capitalism good, socialism 
bad meme that its difficult to get any  decent change and it'll just send us 
back to the middle ages where there are two classes the extremely wealthy and 
the extremely poor.  Don't stand for it!
 
 Nothing brings this out more than than the holiday season or Crassmust.
 
 
 On 11/22/2014 10:20 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
 
    Yes, but I don't know how that would be possible. This area I now live in, 
was a paradise  for the natives, for 3,000 years - no inter-tribal warfare, and 
absolute respect for  territorial boundaries. But, they had nothing, and lived 
entirely off the land. I like my tech, and modern life, and not sure how that 
would happen, without monetary rewards.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
 
  Peoplesure are desperate for making money so they come up with their weirdest 
ideas.  If there is a future it's going to be VERY, VERY weird.  Just think 
what a nicer world this would be if people didn't have to worry  about making 
money.
 
 On 11/22/2014 08:11 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
 
    Can'tfindyour car? Hold your key fob up to your  head. (Really.)
   
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Re: [FairfieldLife] How to tell you're in Leiden on a Sunday afternoon in November

2014-11-23 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
St. Nicholas Center ::: The Evolution of Zwarte Piet
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  From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 6:50 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] How to tell you're in Leiden on a Sunday afternoon in 
November
   
     First, get out and take a walk or a bike ride. If you stay inside, you 
could be anywhere, right?
Now that you're out, do you see gangs of brightly dressed people in black face 
makeup walking around? Hundreds of them? OK, you're in Leiden.
For those of you who have never experienced the Dutch tradition of Sinterklaas 
and his Zwarte Piet companions, it sounds kinda weird. And it probably is, but 
the blackface has been part of the tradition since medieval periods, and people 
aren't about to change it now, even though there have been protests about it 
for racist reasons.
Anyway, it's a lot of fun. Sinterklaas himself arrived yesterday a boat, while 
thousands of parents and their kids cheered his arrival. The Zwarte Piets are 
his helpers, sorta like elves but with more clought. If a kid has been good, 
the Zwarte Piets give them a pepper cookie. If they've been bad, theoretically 
the Zwarte Piets get to throw the kid into a big sack and take him off to 
Spain. Don't ask me what happens to the bad kids once they get there...I've 
never wanted to know.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] What we can learn about MMY from Bill Cosby

2014-11-23 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Its dangerous to be a woman even in the best of places
A Rape on Campus: A Brutal Assault and Struggle for Justice at UVA
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  From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 3:38 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] What we can learn about MMY from Bill Cosby
   
     I think there are interesting parallels in terms of both being stuck in 
the past and being stuck in denial here. 
So far, at least 13 women have come forward to say that Bill Cosby drugged and 
raped them, or at the very least, in some way forced them to have sex with him. 
Several other voices (some of them male) have confirmed that there was a whole 
support mechanism in place among Cosby's staff and organization to keep any 
of these rapes from ever becoming public. 

At the same time, the other night at a comedy performance, the audience gave 
Cosby a standing ovation. 

Does anyone else see the parallels here?
- First, how lost in the past do you have to BE to attend a Bill Cosby 
performance, all these years after he's gone over the hill? That's a clear 
parallel to people still caring about Maharishi, who is even more over the 
hill, being...uh...dead, in addition to being discredited. 

- Second, for these Cosby True Believers, nothing they've seen in the press or 
heard seems to bother them. They're still willing to stand and applaud Cosby, 
either refusing to believe that he could possibly have done any wrong, or 
refusing to consider using his position of power to rape women wrong. Another 
clear parallel to what TM True Believers do when new tales of Maharishi 
screwing his women students come out. They find ways to ignore them completely, 
so that they can continue idolizing MMY. 

- Third, notice what the Cosby True Believers say about these women coming 
forward. They call them names, Liars! being the least of them, and 
demonstrate their misogyny with every word. The MMY supporters do the exact 
same thing, demonizing the women who have had the courage to tell the truth 
about both how Maharishi seduced them, and then went out of his way to hide it. 

All in all, it looks like the behavior of True Believers is equally shameful, 
whether they're clinging to their illusions about Bill Cosby, or about 
Maharishi...
A Complete List of the Women Who Have Accused Bill Cosby of Sexual Assault

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[FairfieldLife] Re: How to tell you're in Leiden on a Sunday afternoon in November

2014-11-23 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The question is, why do you have to get smacked around so much, before posting 
something like this, written by a normal human being? Curious minds want to 
know. Otherwise, we will just continue to assume you are an emotional two year 
old. PS Glad you enjoyed the day in Leiden - I only wish you did that more 
often.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 First, get out and take a walk or a bike ride. If you stay inside, you could 
be anywhere, right?
 

 Now that you're out, do you see gangs of brightly dressed people in black face 
makeup walking around? Hundreds of them? OK, you're in Leiden.
 

 For those of you who have never experienced the Dutch tradition of Sinterklaas 
and his Zwarte Piet companions, it sounds kinda weird. And it probably is, but 
the blackface has been part of the tradition since medieval periods, and people 
aren't about to change it now, even though there have been protests about it 
for racist reasons.
 

 Anyway, it's a lot of fun. Sinterklaas himself arrived yesterday a boat, while 
thousands of parents and their kids cheered his arrival. The Zwarte Piets are 
his helpers, sorta like elves but with more clought. If a kid has been good, 
the Zwarte Piets give them a pepper cookie. If they've been bad, theoretically 
the Zwarte Piets get to throw the kid into a big sack and take him off to 
Spain. Don't ask me what happens to the bad kids once they get there...I've 
never wanted to know.
 

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[FairfieldLife] Sattvic Tea

2014-11-23 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
More Sattva from the Land of the Veda
 23 November 2014Last updated at 06:27 ET 
India tea workers kill owner in pay dispute in West Bengal
Workers at a tea plantation in eastern India have killed the owner during 
negotiations over a pay dispute. The owner of the Sonali tea estate in West 
Bengal was dragged out of talks on the payment of arrears. He died after being 
beaten up and stabbed by a crowd.  Police say the owner had come to pacify 
angry workers who had reportedly not been paid for two or three months. 
Correspondents say many workers in India's tea plantations are malnourished and 
poorly paid.  Several incidents of attacks on tea executives by workers have 
been reported in recent years. In 2012 a tea plantation owner and his wife were 
burned to death in the neighbouring state of Assam.


[FairfieldLife] India in Israel

2014-11-23 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Jerusalem's 800-year-old Indian hospice
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 11/22/2014 3:48 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

I don't think anyone knows for sure where the beej mantras came from. 
Those are lost in antiquity and undoubtedly commonly in use even at 
the time of Shankara.


So let's review what we know about the TM bija mantras:

The Sankrit word man in Sanskrit means to think and tra, means a 
tool; bija in Sanskrit means a seed. Bija mantras are seed sounds 
used as a tools for meditation.


So, in TMer practice you just become aware of the seed syllable, 
experienced just like any other thought; then you add a little 
fertilizer; you just water the root and enjoy the fruit. It's not 
complicated.


Are we agreed so far?

Now we can review the purpose of bija mantra:

There are several uses of bija mantras: for purification, acquisition, 
propitiation, or in some cases, for protection.


But, according to Brooks, the most noble use of bija mantras is for 
spontaneous  meditation. Seed-syllables (bijasaras), are the purest form 
of mantric sound - they do not make a request or praise a God - they are 
natures purest expression of Being.


Now we can consider the history of bija mantra usage:

There are no bija mantras mentioned in the Rik Veda - bija mantras came 
much later during the alchemical phase of the Nath Siddhas, after the 
rise of Tantric Buddhism in the Indian Gupta period.


To sum up:

Meditation on a bija mantra seed syllables rather than words, transcends 
such mundane considerations as semantic meaning. Accordingly, a 
bija-only mantra meditation is not merely esoteric, but inherently superior.


However, bija mantras are not meaningless sounds; everything in the 
cosmos has meaning. But, bija mantras are non-semantic sounds - they are 
not words found in any standard Sanskrit lexicon. Bija mantras, by 
definition, are esoteric.


Works cited:

*Auspicious Wisdon*
The Texts and Traditions of Srividya Sakta Tantrism in South India
by Douglas Renfrew Brooks
SUNY, 1992
p.95

On the origin of the TM bija mantras:

/Bija mantras issued by TM are ''Sri Vidya'' bija mantras. To be fair, 
I won't go into what they are, but if one listens to all TM mantras, 
except for 2, they are  2 or 3 syllable, and this is a very important 
component of the //

//technique... /

From: Billy Smith
Subject: Re: Guru Dev and Sri Vidya
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: April 22, 2003
http://tinyurl.com/ye8my2
/
//You are getting warmer when it comes to understanding TM's origins 
with your posts regarding the Shankaracharya tradition and its practice 
of Srividya... /


From: James Duffy
Subject: Re: TM: Siva Sutra
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental, alt.yoga, alt.meditation
Date: September 21, 2003
http://tinyurl.com/yjwa2yr



Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 11/22/2014 4:51 PM, Tormod Kinnes wrote:
There are some sources outside TM, sources that reveal the settings 
and transmission to Maharishi when he was trained by Guru Dev, 
benefited by his company, and was asked to bring swift and deep 
meditation to the masses. 


/Hariharananda Saraswati, (Karpatri Swami), the disciple of SBS, was 
also the great expert of Shree Vidya and probably all the present day 
experts in Varanasi have somehow or the other obtained Shree vidya from 
him or his pupils./


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swami_Karpatri

Shree Vidya:

/The details of the beliefs vary in different texts, but the general 
principles are similar to those found in Kashmir Shaivism...The name 
srividya is also used to refer to a specific mantra used in this 
tradition having fifteen syllables./


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shri_Vidya


[FairfieldLife] Re: Another test of who is the dumbest person on FFL

2014-11-23 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry considers himself a writer, and as such, I think he feels compelled to 
write something every day. 

 He despises this site, and most of the people on it, but he has not place else 
to go.
 

 He lugs around his laptop from bar to bar, (or maybe dimension to dimension), 
telling us just how unworthy we are for him to participate here.
 

 A strange life indeed.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 Seriously?? This is one of your dumbest, most contrived posts, ever, and that 
is saying something... 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Since so many seem to be vying for this position, I propose another test to 
help determine the winner. Uh...I mean, the ultimate loser. 

 

 JohnR has already expressed his dismay at having been considered less dumb 
than Jim, so I graciously retracted my suggestion that JimF is dumber, and 
allowed JohnR to retain his title. 

 

 BUT, in other threads, Nabby seems to be moving down the list towards the 
bottom fast in *his* attempt to be considered the Dumbest by coming out as a 
fan of cannibalism. You've got to admit that considering Indian vagrants who 
eat other people saints is pretty dumb, and tough to beat. That's even dumber 
than Waiting For Maitreya, which was Nabby's previous low mark in terms of 
Dumbnessitude. 

 

 Therefore I suggest that if there needs to be a tie-breaker to decide whether 
JohnR or JimF are really the Dumbest, the title will go to whichever one of 
them piles on to the pro-cannibalism idea first and supports Nabby in his 
quest for the taste of human flesh. 

 

 I don't see any of the rest of the bottom-dwellers (Steve, Share, Ann, 
Richard) as having the ability to think on their own enough to win the Who Will 
Consume Human Flesh First contest, so I'm going to give the edge to JimF in 
this contest. After all, he's *already* moved out into the boonies, where there 
are fewer people around to notice if some of them go missing at the same time 
Jim seems to be preparing a new buncha meat for the winter in his smokehouse. 

 

 The only question seems to be whether Jimbo will share any of his Long Pig 
with Nabby, who, after all, suggested it first. If that happens, I suggest that 
we allow JimF and Nabby to share the title of Dumbest, with JohnR in second 
place. 

  
 









Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!!

2014-11-23 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 10:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! 
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https://us-mg5.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=0b8m3ft1a6o9h#TopText from 
anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] included below] What might lie at the bottom of 
Barry's barrel? Barry just m  Barry's classification.
 

 Disclaimer: This post is not meant to impune the intelligence of anyone, 
whether they be highly intelligent or highly unintelligent. After all, only the 
enlightened are aware of the nature of the intelligence of the universe, how it 
works, and what has it, and where it is actually located.
 

 

 I think we ought to allow the Post Count to determine the bottom of the 
barrel. So far this week, the person who claims to be enlightened has 
demonstrated the highest degree of obsession, making 31 posts in one day, MOST 
of them about a person he claims is beneath notice and beneath contempt (moi). 
I leave you to puzzle out whether that sounds enlightened to you or just 
jealous. 

 

 Similarly, Share seems to have done little else but Obsess On Barry, as have 
Richard and Ann and Steve. Just another Saturday at Fairfield Life. 

 

 Since all of these people have gone out of their way in the past and the 
present to comment about how LOW Barry is, and yet they choose to focus almost 
all of their writings on him anyway, I think we have to assume that they are 
the LOWEST in terms of intelligence. What you focus on, you become...and all 
that... :-)
 

 On another level, it should be obvious by now that none of them is able to 
think of anything to post EXCEPT ragging on Barry. I have become the catalyst 
that allows them to pretend that they actually have something to say. Seems to 
me they should be thanking me for providing them a much-needed writing 
prompt.  :-)









 You have come in just under the wire on what I predicted. The only thing 
lacking is the actual made up post count on how many times your name was 
mentioned. However, you did comment on the Post Count in general so we'll 
chalk that up as batting 1000, you little darling you.







[FairfieldLife] Re: How to Fake Enlightenment

2014-11-23 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

 Learn 'the look' 

 This is why I've been attracted to the tradition of Zen portraiture - Zen 
masters aren't shown as having some special spiritual look but are instead 
shown as angry, disgruntled, idiotic, enjoying a joke, or bored. That is: 
they're pictured simply being themselves - which is what they *are*!
 

 

 Perhaps one of the original forms of caricature. This is done with great 
mastery. These brush paintings are a great example in art of doing less and 
portraying more.
 

 
 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 I found this on the Internet, as are most things discussed on FFL. As FFL is 
not direct contact with others, point four below probably has the most 
relevance.
 

 1. Learn 'the look'. The look is the face and actions of a guy (or chick!) 
totally at peace, and at one with the universe. First, the face. Look at 
yourself in the mirror. What do you see? You see a guy (or a gal!) with worry 
lines and muscles pulled into the mask that people think of as 'you'. The 
enlightened master is relaxed and at ease, and his serene look shows it! Let 
your facial muscles go slack. Don't let your jaw drop open, but your lips 
should just barely touch each other. Your eyelids should be drooping, so that 
they are just touching the top of your pupils, and you should have just a hint 
of a 'Mona Lisa' smile. Get just the slightest hint of a smirk, like you *know* 
Victoria's secret! Not too much, though, or you'll ruin the effect. Practice 
this in the mirror every day until you can do it by feel.
 

 2. Walk the walk. This is part two of 'the look', and is just as important. 
Chicks should get the feeling that you are relaxed, yet powerful, ready to 
spring into action, like a panther. First of all, SLOW DOWN! If you are at one 
with the universe, who are you hurrying to meet? Yourself! And you won't be 
disappointed if YOU turn up a little late, will you? Walk slowly and 
deliberately, letting your arms swing free. It takes a while to get the rhythm, 
but it is not as hard as getting the face right. Practice is the key. It's not 
you walking, it's God walking through you, baby!
 

 3. Meeting people's eye. This might be the hardest part -- you have to be able 
to look directly at people, yet look through them at the same time. What do you 
usually do when you come across someone on the street or in the office? If you 
know them, you might look them in the eye and say 'hi', but if you don't, you 
look away. NUH UH. That won't fly. The enlightened master can look directly 
into the eyes of a stranger, because he is looking at himself! Of course, you 
won't be able to actually look into your own eyes unless you have had the 'big 
flash', so try this instead: look directly through people at things behind 
them, but not too far to the side. Look at the tree for a few seconds, the car 
for a few seconds, the sidewalk, that bird, whatever. You will look like you 
are looking directly into their soul if that is what they want to think (and 
believe me, the babes want exactly that!) and they will think you are looking 
at things behind that if they are uncomfortable thinking otherwise. This takes 
practice.
 

 
 4. Conversation. It is not as hard as you might think. Just think, 'What would 
the Buddha/Jesus/Mohammed/Maharishi  say?' Say you are at a party, and you have 
'the face' and 'the walk' and you are sitting, relaxed, drinking a beer and 
talking to a babe. She asks you what you do for a living. Your response? 'I 
teach people how to live. That sounded weird... you know, some people just 
aren't comfortable in the world, and I help them out. I guess I'll never have 
you for a client. You look like you are extremely together, Denise. Oh, it's 
Carla? Well believe me, in another life it was Denise, and she was really 
together too.' See how easy it is? Babes want to be spiritual, and they want 
you to notice.
 




 
  




Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 11/22/2014 7:13 PM, Bhairitu wrote:


Do you know what shaktipat is?


The term Shaktipat in Sanskrit means /the transference of psychic 
energy to another person/ either by means of an initiation, a sacred 
word or phrase, a mantra, a touch or even a thought or a mere glance. 
Swami Muktananda was a great teacher of the shakti tradition who used 
shaktipat on many occasions to initiate his students.


The question is, how or why did the Shankara Saraswati tradition adopt 
the shakti siddha doctrine?


According to this tradition, Shankara journeyed to Kamarup - the present 
Guwahati-in Assam and held a controversy with Abhinava Gupta, the Shakta 
commentator. Kamarupa is the site of an ancient tantric cult of the 
Shakti Kamakhya which is located in Assam. It is one of the main 
Shakti-pithas in the tanric Shakti cult. Shankara supposedly won an 
important debate with Abhinava.


Shankara then went to the Himalayas and built a Mutt at Joshi and a 
Mandir at Badri and then he then proceeded to Kedarnath higher up in the 
Himalayas where he became one with the Shakti Devi in 820 A.D. in his 
thirty-second year.


The Sharda Temple, which by tradition was visited by Shankara in his 
travels, is located in Kishanganga Valley just across the Line of 
Control in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir. The meaning of this tradition 
story is that Shankara reached the peak of spirituality when he 
converted to Shaki worship.


As it is not possible to visit this shakti peetha, one can visit the 
famous Saraswathi temple in Basara in Nizamabad district of Andhra 
Pradesh. Basara is 200 km from Hyderabad. You can read more about the 
Shakti Pithas here:


http://www.srinithyakalyani.org/index.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamakhya

Suggested Reading:

*Play of Consciousness: A Spiritual Autobiography*
by Swami Muktananda, Gurumayi Chidvilasananda and Paul Muller-Ortega
SYDA Foundation, 1994

*Secret of the Siddhas*
by Swami Muktananda
SYDA Foundation, 1994

*The Doctrine of Vibration*
An Analysis of the Doctrines and Practices of Kashmir Shaivism
by Mark S. G. Dyczkowski
State University of New York Press, 1987

*Meditation Revolution*
A History and Theology of the Siddha Yoga Lineage
by S.P. Sabharathnam and Douglas Brooks
Agama Press, 1997



[FairfieldLife] Re: Zen koan of the day

2014-11-23 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Why is someone who claims to be fully enlightened still up at 2 a.m. obsessing 
about someone he claims is beneath him? Why would an enlightened person have 
spent the previous 24 hours writing almost 40 posts about the person he claims 
is beneath him? 

 

 If all of this makes sense to you, perhaps you should sign up to learn 
Jimbo-Enlightenment. 
 

 But watch out if he invites you over for dinner...  :-)

 

 
 

 I think bawee is omniscient or else he is 'secretly' reading Jim's posts in 
the dark thinking no one will know.
 






Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 11/22/2014 10:20 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:

You have no idea what I or anyone else knows about India and your trip 
or trips there make you no expert. 


In fact, we don't even know who you are. Go figure.

Your time in TM seems to have given you a certain amount of TM similar 
hubris on your expertise - 


Apparently /Bhairitu/ was a teacher of TM and studied with a famous 
tantric for a decade in order to become a tantric acharya. He has been 
to India and can speak and read Hindi and Sanskrit. He and /emptybill/ 
are probably the foremost experts on tantric mantra shastra on FFL - 
they make you look like a piker.


perhaps you can give us some John Hagelin style videos of your I'm 
certain I'm right cuz I been to new Delhi?


Non sequitur.

Piker:

/Someone who bakes bread on a small scale and in an amatuerish fashion. /


[FairfieldLife] Re: Another test of who is the dumbest person on FFL

2014-11-23 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Since so many seem to be vying for this position, I propose another test to 
help determine the winner. Uh...I mean, the ultimate loser. 

 

 JohnR has already expressed his dismay at having been considered less dumb 
than Jim, so I graciously retracted my suggestion that JimF is dumber, and 
allowed JohnR to retain his title. 

 

 BUT, in other threads, Nabby seems to be moving down the list towards the 
bottom fast in *his* attempt to be considered the Dumbest by coming out as a 
fan of cannibalism. You've got to admit that considering Indian vagrants who 
eat other people saints is pretty dumb, and tough to beat. That's even dumber 
than Waiting For Maitreya, which was Nabby's previous low mark in terms of 
Dumbnessitude. 

 

 Therefore I suggest that if there needs to be a tie-breaker to decide whether 
JohnR or JimF are really the Dumbest, the title will go to whichever one of 
them piles on to the pro-cannibalism idea first and supports Nabby in his 
quest for the taste of human flesh. 

 

 I don't see any of the rest of the bottom-dwellers (Steve, Share, Ann, 
Richard) as having the ability to think on their own enough to win the Who Will 
Consume Human Flesh First contest, so I'm going to give the edge to JimF in 
this contest. After all, he's *already* moved out into the boonies, where there 
are fewer people around to notice if some of them go missing at the same time 
Jim seems to be preparing a new buncha meat for the winter in his smokehouse. 

 

 The only question seems to be whether Jimbo will share any of his Long Pig 
with Nabby, who, after all, suggested it first. If that happens, I suggest that 
we allow JimF and Nabby to share the title of Dumbest, with JohnR in second 
place. 

 

 Dearest bawee,
 Hang on just one cotton pickin'! As someone who craves your attention, even if 
it is negative attention, I want to be the dumbest. C'mon, bawee. You haven't 
known me as long as you have known some of these others but it is quality of 
time together that really counts, not quantity - don't you think? And you have 
to admit the quality of our interactions together has been the thing that has 
captured your imagination, your attention, the most. You know I need you to say 
yes. Don't deny me this one small privilege that you, and only you, can grant 
me. MAKE ME THE DUMBEST, I AM BEGGING YOU. I'll even sample human meat first if 
you say yes (if you'll bring the beer).
 Signed,
 The One and Only,
 Thundertwat (and former Judy minion and Robin stalker)
  
 






[FairfieldLife] Re: Another test of who is the dumbest person on FFL

2014-11-23 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The FFL experience has backfired on him -  

 He was going to cruise on here, all polyamortized and livin' the Ex-Pat 
Hipster Euro lifestyle, and don't even *ask* the dude about meditation, 
levitation, evolution, or movies - He Was HERE, To Show US, How It Is Done. 

 But, it isn't working out. No Plan B, either. All his eggs in one basket, and 
the bottom fell out.
 

 So all he is left with, is himself, naked, on FFL.
 

 Got soap? :-)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 Barry considers himself a writer, and as such, I think he feels compelled to 
write something every day. 

 He despises this site, and most of the people on it, but he has not place else 
to go.
 

 He lugs around his laptop from bar to bar, (or maybe dimension to dimension), 
telling us just how unworthy we are for him to participate here.
 

 A strange life indeed.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 Seriously?? This is one of your dumbest, most contrived posts, ever, and that 
is saying something... 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Since so many seem to be vying for this position, I propose another test to 
help determine the winner. Uh...I mean, the ultimate loser. 

 

 JohnR has already expressed his dismay at having been considered less dumb 
than Jim, so I graciously retracted my suggestion that JimF is dumber, and 
allowed JohnR to retain his title. 

 

 BUT, in other threads, Nabby seems to be moving down the list towards the 
bottom fast in *his* attempt to be considered the Dumbest by coming out as a 
fan of cannibalism. You've got to admit that considering Indian vagrants who 
eat other people saints is pretty dumb, and tough to beat. That's even dumber 
than Waiting For Maitreya, which was Nabby's previous low mark in terms of 
Dumbnessitude. 

 

 Therefore I suggest that if there needs to be a tie-breaker to decide whether 
JohnR or JimF are really the Dumbest, the title will go to whichever one of 
them piles on to the pro-cannibalism idea first and supports Nabby in his 
quest for the taste of human flesh. 

 

 I don't see any of the rest of the bottom-dwellers (Steve, Share, Ann, 
Richard) as having the ability to think on their own enough to win the Who Will 
Consume Human Flesh First contest, so I'm going to give the edge to JimF in 
this contest. After all, he's *already* moved out into the boonies, where there 
are fewer people around to notice if some of them go missing at the same time 
Jim seems to be preparing a new buncha meat for the winter in his smokehouse. 

 

 The only question seems to be whether Jimbo will share any of his Long Pig 
with Nabby, who, after all, suggested it first. If that happens, I suggest that 
we allow JimF and Nabby to share the title of Dumbest, with JohnR in second 
place. 

  
 













[FairfieldLife] Re: Another test of who is the dumbest person on FFL

2014-11-23 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 The FFL experience has backfired on him -  

 He was going to cruise on here, all polyamortized and livin' the Ex-Pat 
Hipster Euro lifestyle, and don't even *ask* the dude about meditation, 
levitation, evolution, or movies - He Was HERE, To Show US, How It Is Done. 

 But, it isn't working out. No Plan B, either. All his eggs in one basket, and 
the bottom fell out.
 

 So all he is left with, is himself, naked, on FFL.
 

 Got soap? :-)
 

 Here, one of these might do the trick:
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 















Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-23 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Certainly we all pale when compared to your expertise on India, 
Michael.  BTW, when was I in Delhi and what did I see there?


On 11/22/2014 08:20 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
You have no idea what I or anyone else knows about India and your trip 
or trips there make you no expert.Your time in TM seems to have given 
you a certain amount of TM similar hubris on your expertise - perhaps 
you can give us some John Hagelin style videos of your I'm certain I'm 
right cuz I been to new Delhi?



*From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:36 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati 
discourses are waiting to be published


Visiting India will give you an understanding of their culture which 
you cannot otherwise get.  And you MJ, make huge mistakes 
misunderstanding Indian culture.  What would you think if someone told 
you how some bakery good you make tastes if they never eaten it?



On 11/22/2014 06:20 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
mailto:mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:



Refreshing - we see that not everyone is impressed with I went to 
India and so I'm an expert.



*From:* Tormod Kinnes tkin...@gmail.com mailto:tkin...@gmail.com 
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

*Sent:* Saturday, November 22, 2014 5:51 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati 
discourses are waiting to be published


Dear Bhairatu

You write of your background for saying TM is nothing but . . .. 
Good. But I cannot help noting that you still don't give real 
examples to document your stand.


For example, you write:

I also like to refer to Sivananda's Mind Its Mysteries and
Control  . . . to point out the method of meditation TM uses
with the mantras is nothing new either as that work was first
published in 1936.


I took the trouble to search through Sivananda's book, but if it 
contains anything specific about the TM system, I missed it.
 The Smartist mantras and the main criteria for selecting from among 
them are not specified there, not as far as I could see after a quick 
search. Nor are Guru Dev's warning that OM (which is often found in 
Sivananda's writings) is not a proper mantra for householders.


You write

mantras were published in the west before Maharishi. 



Yes, but a mass of syllables is not the TM system either. Many sounds 
and words of the language  - Long, Fine, and so on - may in fact be 
used as mantras.



Then you suggest something about seed sounds:

 TM uses beej mantras because they don't need any empowerment. 



You also say that the TM initiation ceremony helps, and that other 
ways may help too.


The puja helps but Indian astrologers and ayurvedic
practitioners hand them out to clients without any elaborate
initiation.


In Guru Dev's discourses one finds a similar view in choosing the 
mantras. One gets a suitable mantra either by the guru or in some 
other way. Paul Mason has gathered, translated and published several 
books with ideas of Guru Dev.


where the beej mantras came from . . lost in antiquity and
undoubtedly commonly in use even at the time of Shankara. 



This seems to be speculation.

TM is really just yoga lite. - 



I should say your proofs are lite too. Good, specific documentation 
is the thing called for.


ROUNDING OFF

There are some sources outside TM, sources that reveal the settings 
and transmission to Maharishi when he was trained by Guru Dev, 
benefited by his company, and was asked to bring swift and deep 
meditation to the masses.


Elsa Dragemark presents Dr. Raj Varma:

 Doctor Varma came to Guru Dev six months before Maharishi and
knows more about Guru Dev and Maharishi than any other person I
have met. [p. 240]


Dr. Raj Varma tells (in Elsa Dragemark. The Way to Maharishi's 
Himalayas. Stockholm: E. Dragemark, 1972):




Maharishi loyally followed in his master's footsteps. . . .
Maharishi stayed with Guru Dev until the day his master left his
body. It was in Calcutta, the 20th of May, 1953.
Guru Dev then called Maharishi and asked him to sit down. Guru
Dev said:
— My time is up. It is time to leave, but still one thing
remains. There was something else I should have done, but I did
not have the time to carry it out. It is the usual custom that
the work remaining for a guru is completed by his disciples. It
is a tradition that the father's task is completed by his son and
what now remains you shall complete by yourself.
— 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sattvic Tea

2014-11-23 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Hmm, I wonder how Americans would react if they weren't paid for two or 
three months?


On 11/23/2014 05:09 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

More Sattva from the Land of the Veda

23 November 2014 Last updated at 06:27 ET


  India tea workers kill owner in pay dispute in West Bengal

Workers at a tea plantation in eastern India have killed the owner 
during negotiations over a pay dispute.
The owner of the Sonali tea estate in West Bengal was dragged out of 
talks on the payment of arrears. He died after being beaten up and 
stabbed by a crowd.
Police say the owner had come to pacify angry workers who had 
reportedly not been paid for two or three months.
Correspondents say many workers in India's tea plantations are 
malnourished and poorly paid.
Several incidents of attacks on tea executives by workers have been 
reported in recent years.
In 2012 a tea plantation owner and his wife were burned to death in 
the neighbouring state of Assam.







Re: [FairfieldLife] How to tell you're in Leiden on a Sunday afternoon in November

2014-11-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

Dia de Los Muertos, San Antonio:

http://youtu.be/7J8EQa5ST8o


On 11/23/2014 6:55 AM, Michael Jackson  wrote:

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FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

*To:* FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, November 23, 2014 6:50 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] How to tell you're in Leiden on a Sunday 
afternoon in November


*/First, get out and take a walk or a bike ride. If you stay inside, 
you could be anywhere, right?/*

*/
/*
*/Now that you're out, do you see gangs of brightly dressed people in 
black face makeup walking around? Hundreds of them? OK, you're in 
Leiden./*

*/
/*
*/For those of you who have never experienced the Dutch tradition of 
Sinterklaas and his Zwarte Piet companions, it sounds kinda weird. And 
it probably is, but the blackface has been part of the tradition since 
medieval periods, and people aren't about to change it now, even 
though there have been protests about it for racist reasons./*

*/
/*
*/Anyway, it's a lot of fun. Sinterklaas himself arrived yesterday a 
boat, while thousands of parents and their kids cheered his arrival. 
The Zwarte Piets are his helpers, sorta like elves but with more 
clought. If a kid has been good, the Zwarte Piets give them a pepper 
cookie. If they've been bad, theoretically the Zwarte Piets get to 
throw the kid into a big sack and take him off to Spain. Don't ask me 
what happens to the bad kids once they get there...I've never wanted 
to know./*

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Brain-tenna? Unlock your car, by touching your head

2014-11-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 11/22/2014 11:54 AM, Bhairitu wrote:



People sure are desperate for making money so they come up with their 
weirdest ideas. If there is a future it's going to be VERY, VERY 
weird. Just think what a nicer world this would be if people didn't 
have to worry about making money.


/Just think what a nicer world this would be if everyone had a job so 
they could earn some money, so they wouldn't be so desperate./




On 11/22/2014 08:11 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:


Can't find your car? Hold your key fob up to your head. (Really.) 
http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/22/7259707/car-key-fob





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Brain-tenna? Unlock your car, by touching your head [1 Attachment]

2014-11-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 11/22/2014 2:28 PM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote:



Yes, I agree that a larger safety net is necessary, and the bucks for 
that should come from the ultra wealthy who shirk their national 
responsibility, by evading taxes.




/A new CBO study shows that ‘the rich’ don’t just pay their ‘fair 
share,’ they pay almost everybody’s share.




http://www.aei.org/publication/new-cbo-study-shows-rich-dont-just-pay-fair-share-pay-almost-everybodys-share//


Otherwise, we will continue to see the middle class disappear, and be 
headed for a second revolution, eventually.



Part of the issue, is that corporate titans are seen as great 
visionaries and geniuses, instead of simply being true to their 
charter, which is to turn as big a profit, as possible, resources and 
populations be damned. We need real leaders, not Warren Buffet and a 
bunch of unethical salesmen, running this country.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

One of the ways of doing it would be guaranteed annual income.  That's 
a safety net and keeps people from becoming desperate.  In fact the 
crime reduction it might produce might pay for it.  You can look up 
the different countries implementing it and see how they are going to 
pay for it. Otherwise limit how much money anyone can have because 
we're seeing that billionaires are mentally ill and don't deserve the 
power they wield.


Americans are so brainwashed with a Tarzan like capitalism good, 
socialism bad meme that its difficult to get any decent change and 
it'll just send us back to the middle ages where there are two classes 
the extremely wealthy and the extremely poor.  Don't stand for it!


Nothing brings this out more than than the holiday season or Crassmust.


On 11/22/2014 10:20 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... 
mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:



Yes, but I don't know how that would be possible. This area I now
live in, was a paradise for the natives, for 3,000 years - no
inter-tribal warfare, and absolute respect for territorial
boundaries. But, they had nothing, and lived entirely off the
land. I like my tech, and modern life, and not sure how that
would happen, without monetary rewards.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@...
mailto:noozguru@... wrote :

People sure are desperate for making money so they come up with
their weirdest ideas.  If there is a future it's going to be
VERY, VERY weird.  Just think what a nicer world this would be if
people didn't have to worry about making money.

On 11/22/2014 08:11 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@...
mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Can't find your car? Hold your key fob up to your head.
(Really.)
http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/22/7259707/car-key-fob




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Brain-tenna? Unlock your car, by touching your head

2014-11-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]


On 11/22/2014 12:28 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:


Yes, I agree that a larger safety net is necessary, and the bucks for 
that should come from the ultra wealthy who shirk their national 
responsibility, by evading taxes. Otherwise, we will continue to see 
the middle class disappear, and be headed for a second revolution, 
eventually.




On 11/22/2014 4:08 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

Food prices are climbing very high.  The pound of butter I paid $2.99 
for at Trader Joes the last time cost me $3.99 the other day. That's a 
33% increase.  I don't eat beef but the price of hamburger is over $4 
now.


/It is a fact that prices have gone up, but people need to realize that 
most of the food they consume is killing them. All the average person 
really needs in order to be healthy are clean air, pure water, salt, a 
few simple grains, vegetables, salads and olive oil, and a little fruit. 
The average person should consume only 1800 calories per day.


We have eliminated all dairy and sugar and most carbohydrates from our 
diet and we've never felt better. ///We try to avoid all refined sugar, 
corn syrup, corn, potatoes, meat and poultry, eggs, milk and any boxed 
food at the store.


We still have a weakness for chocolate, good wine, and occasional 
chicken taco when we eat out./ Our food bill is way down!


/
The riots in Greece were because people could no longer afford food 
not because they were economic experts.  Only a matter of time until 
riots begin here and the government is trying to be proactive but just 
the wrong way.


/There would be no food riots if everyone ate a sensible diet - most 
people do not need a lot of beer, wine and tobacco smoke, to which they 
are addicted, including the Greeks./






Part of the issue, is that corporate titans are seen as great 
visionaries and geniuses, instead of simply being true to their 
charter, which is to turn as big a profit, as possible, resources and 
populations be damned. We need real leaders, not Warren Buffet and a 
bunch of unethical salesmen, running this country.


But being in tech also you know the corporate titans are not the 
visionaries.  They buy small companies started by people who are 
visionary or accidentally (more often than not) created something 
visionary.






---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

One of the ways of doing it would be guaranteed annual income.  
That's a safety net and keeps people from becoming desperate.  In 
fact the crime reduction it might produce might pay for it.  You can 
look up the different countries implementing it and see how they are 
going to pay for it.  Otherwise limit how much money anyone can have 
because we're seeing that billionaires are mentally ill and don't 
deserve the power they wield.


Americans are so brainwashed with a Tarzan like capitalism good, 
socialism bad meme that its difficult to get any decent change and 
it'll just send us back to the middle ages where there are two 
classes the extremely wealthy and the extremely poor. Don't stand for it!


Nothing brings this out more than than the holiday season or Crassmust.


On 11/22/2014 10:20 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... 
mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:



Yes, but I don't know how that would be possible. This area I
now live in, was a paradise for the natives, for 3,000 years -
no inter-tribal warfare, and absolute respect for territorial
boundaries. But, they had nothing, and lived entirely off the
land. I like my tech, and modern life, and not sure how that
would happen, without monetary rewards.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@...
mailto:noozguru@... wrote :

People sure are desperate for making money so they come up with
their weirdest ideas.  If there is a future it's going to be
VERY, VERY weird.  Just think what a nicer world this would be
if people didn't have to worry about making money.

On 11/22/2014 08:11 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@...
mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Can't find your car? Hold your key fob up to your head.
(Really.)
http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/22/7259707/car-key-fob




image
http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/22/7259707/car-key-fob


Can't find your car? Hold your key fob up to your he...
http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/22/7259707/car-key-fob
It sounds crazy, but it extends its range just a little bit.

View on www.vox.com
http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/22/7259707/car-key-fob

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[FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more

2014-11-23 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I just wanna know who gets which title? 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Brain-tenna? Unlock your car, by touching your head

2014-11-23 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The current situation is shameful. It is lying with statistics, based on an 
outmoded tax structure - Let the ultra-wealthy give something back, besides the 
minimum. The only reason that chart is trotted out, is to quiet those who know 
they are being screwed, and to appease the very rich.  

 How is someone worth a billion dollars, going to miss a hundred million or so? 
The ultra rich use a disproportionate share of the common, and they should pay 
their fair share, without any tax breaks. If they did that, and corporations 
chipped in their fair share, that would be good enough for me.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

 On 11/22/2014 2:28 PM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote:
 
 
   Yes, I agree that a larger safety net is necessary, and the bucks for that 
should come from the ultra wealthy who shirk their national responsibility, by 
evading taxes.

 
 A new CBO study shows that ‘the rich’ don’t just pay their ‘fair share,’ they 
pay almost everybody’s share.
 
 
 
 
http://www.aei.org/publication/new-cbo-study-shows-rich-dont-just-pay-fair-share-pay-almost-everybodys-share/
 
http://www.aei.org/publication/new-cbo-study-shows-rich-dont-just-pay-fair-share-pay-almost-everybodys-share/
 
 
 Otherwise, we will continue to see the middle class disappear, and be headed 
for a second revolution, eventually. 
 

 Part of the issue, is that corporate titans are seen as great visionaries and 
geniuses, instead of simply being true to their charter, which is to turn as 
big a profit, as possible, resources and populations be damned. We need real 
leaders, not Warren Buffet and a bunch of unethical salesmen, running this 
country. 
  
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 One of the ways of doing it would be guaranteed annual income.  That's a 
safety net and keeps people from becoming desperate.  In fact the crime 
reduction it might produce might pay for it.  You can look up the different 
countries implementing it and see how they are going to pay for it.  Otherwise 
limit how much money anyone can have because we're seeing that billionaires are 
mentally ill and don't deserve the power they wield.
 
 Americans are so brainwashed with a Tarzan like capitalism good, socialism 
bad meme that its difficult to get any decent change and it'll just send us 
back to the middle ages where there are two classes the extremely wealthy and 
the extremely poor.  Don't stand for it!
 
 Nothing brings this out more than than the holiday season or Crassmust.
 
 
 On 11/22/2014 10:20 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... 
mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

   Yes, but I don't know how that would be possible. This area I now live in, 
was a paradise for the natives, for 3,000 years - no inter-tribal warfare, and 
absolute respect for territorial boundaries. But, they had nothing, and lived 
entirely off the land. I like my tech, and modern life, and not sure how that 
would happen, without monetary rewards.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 People sure are desperate for making money so they come up with their weirdest 
ideas.  If there is a future it's going to be VERY, VERY weird.  Just think 
what a nicer world this would be if people didn't have to worry about making 
money.
 
 On 11/22/2014 08:11 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... 
mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

   Can't find your car? Hold your key fob up to your head. (Really.)
 
 
 
 
 
 Can't find your car? Hold your key fob up to your he... It sounds crazy, but 
it extends its range just a little bit.


 
 View on www.vox.com 
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 Turn your brain into an antenna, by holding your key fob close to your head...

 
 


 
 





 
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more

2014-11-23 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Surprise! Your curiosity has been rewarded - You get 'em both! (whatever they 
were...)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote :

 I just wanna know who gets which title? 





Re: [FairfieldLife] What we can learn about MMY from Bill Cosby

2014-11-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 11/23/2014 2:38 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
*/I think there are interesting parallels in terms of both being stuck 
in the past and being stuck in denial here.

/*


For the record, I'm not a Cosby fan and I'm not taking up for him, but 
it's not as if this is a new breaking story, Barry - you've had a decade 
or more to post a comment on this subject, but for some reason you had 
to wait until a black man was accused.


Is there some kind of White Rape Privilege going on here?

It's also not very fair of you to include MMY in your comment. You 
failed to mention a few of your favorites: Fred Lenz, Roman Polanski 
Woody Allen, Ted Kennedy, Bill Clinton and Terry Richardson. Go figure.


http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/bill-cosby-terry-richardson

/I don't think I was ever a starry-eyed TMer, and//
//I definitely never thought he had any kind of //
//pipeline to any useful knowledge, but I used to //
//go to his Friday night talks in L.A. regularly, //
//because it was the best place in town for a TM //
//guy to get lucky. //
//
//The women would go and listen to him and get all//
//starry-eyed and feel that lower chakra kundalini //
//energy flowing, and then they'd go for the first //
//non-celibate guy they ran into. Even non-TM guys //
//knew about the scene and would go there looking //
//to get laid, usually successfully./ - TurquoiseB

http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife/yahoogroups.com/msg66703.html 
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg66703.html



*/
/*
*/So far, at least 13 women have come forward to say that Bill Cosby 
drugged and raped them, or at the very least, in some way forced them 
to have sex with him. Several other voices (some of them male) have 
confirmed that there was a whole support mechanism in place among 
Cosby's staff and organization to keep any of these rapes from ever 
becoming public.

/*
*/
/*
*/At the same time, the other night at a comedy performance, the 
audience gave Cosby a standing ovation.

/*
*/
/*
*/Does anyone else see the parallels here?/*
*/
/*
*/- First, how lost in the past do you have to BE to attend a Bill 
Cosby performance, all these years after he's gone over the hill? 
That's a clear parallel to people still caring about Maharishi, who is 
even more over the hill, being...uh...dead, in addition to being 
discredited.

/*
*/
/*
*/- Second, for these Cosby True Believers, nothing they've seen in 
the press or heard seems to bother them. They're still willing to 
stand and applaud Cosby, either refusing to believe that he could 
possibly have done any wrong, or refusing to consider using his 
position of power to rape women wrong. Another clear parallel to what 
TM True Believers do when new tales of Maharishi screwing his women 
students come out. They find ways to ignore them completely, so that 
they can continue idolizing MMY.

/*
*/
/*
*/- Third, notice what the Cosby True Believers say about these women 
coming forward. They call them names, Liars! being the least of 
them, and demonstrate their misogyny with every word. The MMY 
supporters do the exact same thing, demonizing the women who have had 
the courage to tell the truth about both how Maharishi seduced them, 
and then went out of his way to hide it.

/*
*/
/*
*/All in all, it looks like the behavior of True Believers is equally 
shameful, whether they're clinging to their illusions about Bill 
Cosby, or about Maharishi.../*

*/
/*
*/A Complete List of the Women Who Have Accused Bill Cosby of Sexual 
Assault 
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/11/21/bill_cosby_accusers_list_sexual_assault_rape_drugs_feature_in_women_s_stories.html?wpsrc=sh_all_dt_tw_ru/*



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The following women have alleged as a matter of public record that 
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[FairfieldLife] Thoughts and Chai in the Morning

2014-11-23 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Good mornin' to ya'll,
 

 It's an overcast day out here in my neck of the woods, a nice respite from the 
needed rain we had last Thursday and Friday
 

 How many of you have tried a packaged chai in the morning?  I bought two boxes 
of this cardamon chai at a Muslim Indian grocery store in Berkeley, CA last 
week.  The chai is just a good as the one you'd get at an Indian restaurant.
 

 I couldn't find this brand at Safeway or other supermarket in my neighborhood. 
 But there is a small Indian grocery store at the Fillmore District which sells 
the same product...
 

 For the naysayers here, you should know that Lindsay Lohan has also taken up 
TM.  That's probably understandable since she has worked for Oprah Winfrey, an 
ardent TMer.  I saw this from a video clip of Ellen Degeneris Show last night.  
She too is a meditatorThere appears to be a tacit connection here with the 
TMO...
 

 It was nice to see the Raiders win a football game last Thursday.  They might 
win another game or two.  But in the end, they would still have a losing 
season...
 

 This afternoon the 49ers take on RG3 and the Redskins.  The Niners are favored 
to win.  They could probably make the playoffs.  But there is still a lingering 
rumor that Coach Harbaugh might jump ship to another team after the season is 
over...
 

 Meanwhile, a violin player is playing a blissful tune on the radio...
 

 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Brain-tenna? Unlock your car, by touching your head

2014-11-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 11/23/2014 1:01 PM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote:



The current situation is shameful.



/Agreed, but the answer is not//in continuing the current tax structure. 
I am opposed to unfair income taxation. A better idea might be a tax on 
luxury goods. One of the reason businesses are leaving California and 
the U.S. is because of unfair corporate taxation./




It is lying with statistics,



/The chart was compiled in 2011 by President Obama's Congressional 
Budget Office (CBO) - it's a non-partisan analysis. It proves that the 
rich pay almost all of the income tax in the U.S. Do the math.//

//
//https://www.cbo.gov//

/http://www.aei.org/publication/new-cbo-study-shows-rich-dont-just-pay-fair-share-pay-almost-everybodys-share//



based on an outmoded tax structure - Let the ultra-wealthy give 
something back, besides the minimum. The only reason that chart is 
trotted out, is to quiet those who know they are being screwed, and to 
appease the very rich.




/So, it's an Obama government conspiracy to quiet those who don't pay 
any income tax? You're not even making any sense today, Jim.//


The federal government’s most intrusive and potentially punitive 
institution, the IRS, unquestionably worked for Barack Obama’s 
reelection by suppressing activities by conservative groups.//

//
//http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-will// 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-will-in-wisconsin-done-in-by-john-doe/2014/10/24/b30ee2ec-5ad8-11e4-b812-38518ae74c67_story.html


How is someone worth a billion dollars, going to miss a hundred 
million or so?


/A few million here and a few million there and pretty soon you're 
talking real money. But, seriously it's not about the money - it's all 
about the jobs./


The ultra rich use a disproportionate share of the common, and they 
should pay their fair share, without any tax breaks.


/Not sure how you figure rich people paying 90% of all the U.S. income 
tax is paying their fair share. It sounds more like the rich are the 
ones being screwed. The only fair income tax would be a flat tax.


We are all supposed to be equal under the law, not prejudiced against 
those that have more. Without the opportunity to be rich people, 
everyone would be poor. Go figure./


If they did that, and corporations chipped in their fair share, that 
would be good enough for me.


/It's not good enough for me until they reform the tax code and 
eliminate the IRS and implement a flat tax. A true flat rate tax is a 
system of taxation where one tax rate is applied to all income with no 
deductions.


//Flat taxes offer simplicity in the tax code, which has been reported 
to increase compliance and decrease administration costs. A true flat 
rate tax is a system of taxation where one tax rate is applied to all 
income with no exceptions. The flat rate would be applied to all taxable 
income and profits without exception or exemption. //

//
//It could be argued that under such an arrangement, no one is subject 
to a preferential or unfair tax treatment. No industry receives 
special treatment, large households are not advantaged at the expense of 
small ones, etc. //

//
//Moreover, the cost of tax filing for citizens and the cost of tax 
administration for the government would be further reduced, as under a 
true flat tax only businesses and the self-employed would need to 
interact with the tax authorities./




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

On 11/22/2014 2:28 PM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote:




Yes, I agree that a larger safety net is necessary, and the bucks
for that should come from the ultra wealthy who shirk their
national responsibility, by evading taxes.



/A new CBO study shows that ‘the rich’ don’t just pay their ‘fair
share,’ they pay almost everybody’s share.




http://www.aei.org/publication/new-cbo-study-shows-rich-dont-just-pay-fair-share-pay-almost-everybodys-share//



Otherwise, we will continue to see the middle class disappear,
and be headed for a second revolution, eventually.


Part of the issue, is that corporate titans are seen as great
visionaries and geniuses, instead of simply being true to their
charter, which is to turn as big a profit, as possible, resources
and populations be damned. We need real leaders, not Warren
Buffet and a bunch of unethical salesmen, running this country.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@...
mailto:noozguru@... wrote :

One of the ways of doing it would be guaranteed annual income. 
That's a safety net and keeps people from becoming desperate.  In

fact the crime reduction it might produce might pay for it.  You
can look up the different countries implementing it and see how
they are going to pay for it. Otherwise limit how much money
anyone can have because we're seeing that billionaires are
mentally ill and don't deserve 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Brain-tenna? Unlock your car, by touching your head

2014-11-23 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
I was reading an article about Amazon in Seattle this morning and how 
Jeff Bezos is a libertarian and we know how cruel that thinking is. it's 
sink or swim, I've got mine and to hell with everyone else.  Not only 
that you probably noticed that the previously apolitical software 
programmers decided that libertarianism was the cat's meow back in the 
1990s.  Society is doomed with that  kind of thinking.  It's very 
Dickensonian.


Are rich really that stupid?  Must be or wealth has fogged their minds 
and they are one pointed about one thing: making more money even though 
they have plenty already.  They are destroying society.  Not that this 
is anything new it has happened before and regardless of what we try to 
do history just repeats itself.


The article on Amazon:

http://www.geekwire.com/2014/commentary-amageddon-seattles-increasingly-obvious-future/

I was last in Seattle in 2007 and it has lost it's charm. Downtown 
looked like something out of Bladerunner.


On 11/23/2014 11:01 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:


The current situation is shameful. It is lying with statistics, based 
on an outmoded tax structure - Let the ultra-wealthy give something 
back, besides the minimum. The only reason that chart is trotted out, 
is to quiet those who know they are being screwed, and to appease the 
very rich.



How is someone worth a billion dollars, going to miss a hundred 
million or so? The ultra rich use a disproportionate share of the 
common, and they should pay their fair share, without any tax breaks. 
If they did that, and corporations chipped in their fair share, that 
would be good enough for me.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

On 11/22/2014 2:28 PM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote:




Yes, I agree that a larger safety net is necessary, and the bucks
for that should come from the ultra wealthy who shirk their
national responsibility, by evading taxes.



/A new CBO study shows that ‘the rich’ don’t just pay their ‘fair
share,’ they pay almost everybody’s share.




http://www.aei.org/publication/new-cbo-study-shows-rich-dont-just-pay-fair-share-pay-almost-everybodys-share//



Otherwise, we will continue to see the middle class disappear,
and be headed for a second revolution, eventually.


Part of the issue, is that corporate titans are seen as great
visionaries and geniuses, instead of simply being true to their
charter, which is to turn as big a profit, as possible, resources
and populations be damned. We need real leaders, not Warren
Buffet and a bunch of unethical salesmen, running this country.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@...
mailto:noozguru@... wrote :

One of the ways of doing it would be guaranteed annual income. 
That's a safety net and keeps people from becoming desperate.  In

fact the crime reduction it might produce might pay for it.  You
can look up the different countries implementing it and see how
they are going to pay for it. Otherwise limit how much money
anyone can have because we're seeing that billionaires are
mentally ill and don't deserve the power they wield.

Americans are so brainwashed with a Tarzan like capitalism good,
socialism bad meme that its difficult to get any decent change
and it'll just send us back to the middle ages where there are
two classes the extremely wealthy and the extremely poor.  Don't
stand for it!

Nothing brings this out more than than the holiday season or
Crassmust.


On 11/22/2014 10:20 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@...
mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Yes, but I don't know how that would be possible. This area
I now live in, was a paradise for the natives, for 3,000
years - no inter-tribal warfare, and absolute respect for
territorial boundaries. But, they had nothing, and lived
entirely off the land. I like my tech, and modern life, and
not sure how that would happen, without monetary rewards.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@...
mailto:noozguru@... wrote :

People sure are desperate for making money so they come up
with their weirdest ideas.  If there is a future it's going
to be VERY, VERY weird.  Just think what a nicer world this
would be if people didn't have to worry about making money.

On 11/22/2014 08:11 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@...
mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Can't find your car? Hold your key fob up to your head.
(Really.)
http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/22/7259707/car-key-fob




http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/22/7259707/car-key-fob



Can't find 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Thoughts and Chai in the Morning

2014-11-23 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

Avoid the ones that say chai tea on the box. :-D

I used to get the Trader Joes chai which came with milk built in. But 
milk turns me into fartsville as I'm lactose intolerant so I learned to 
pass on chai.  I've also been reading about the shortage of organic milk 
in California.  Apparently the drought has been taking it's toll in that 
area.


Lindsay Lohan, doing her nude scenes between meditation sessions. Now 
just wait for Kim Kardashian to start. :-D


On 11/23/2014 12:01 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Good mornin' to ya'll,


It's an overcast day out here in my neck of the woods, a nice respite 
from the needed rain we had last Thursday and Friday



How many of you have tried a packaged chai in the morning?  I bought 
two boxes of this cardamon chai at a Muslim Indian grocery store in 
Berkeley, CA last week.  The chai is just a good as the one you'd get 
at an Indian restaurant.



I couldn't find this brand at Safeway or other supermarket in my 
neighborhood.  But there is a small Indian grocery store at the 
Fillmore District which sells the same product...



For the naysayers here, you should know that Lindsay Lohan has also 
taken up TM.  That's probably understandable since she has worked for 
Oprah Winfrey, an ardent TMer.  I saw this from a video clip of Ellen 
Degeneris Show last night.  She too is a meditatorThere appears to 
be a tacit connection here with the TMO...



It was nice to see the Raiders win a football game last Thursday. 
 They might win another game or two.  But in the end, they would still 
have a losing season...



This afternoon the 49ers take on RG3 and the Redskins.  The Niners are 
favored to win.  They could probably make the playoffs.  But there is 
still a lingering rumor that Coach Harbaugh might jump ship to another 
team after the season is over...



Meanwhile, a violin player is playing a blissful tune on the radio...








Re: [FairfieldLife] Brain-tenna? Unlock your car, by touching your head

2014-11-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 11/22/2014 2:11 PM, Bhairitu wrote:


One of the ways of doing it would be guaranteed annual income.


/What would be the incentive to work if there was a guaranteed annual 
income?/


That's a safety net and keeps people from becoming desperate.  In fact 
the crime reduction it might produce might pay for it.  You can look 
up the different countries implementing it and see how they are going 
to pay for it.


/You are not even making any sense.

How would everyone being poor reduce the crime rate? In an ideal world, 
everyone would be rich, not poor - there would be no crime because 
everyone would have all they want, so there would be no reason to steal. /


/But, we don't live in an ideal world yet, so we have to be practical 
and earn money ourselves and not depend on the government./


Otherwise limit how much money anyone can have because we're seeing 
that billionaires are mentally ill and don't deserve the power they wield.


/Non sequitur.

There is no evidence that being a billionaire would indicate a person 
was mentally ill. The richest man on the planet, Bill Gates, gives away 
millions of dollars every day to help people. Most rich Americans are 
the biggest donors to charity and good causes./


Americans are so brainwashed with a Tarzan like capitalism good, 
socialism bad meme that its difficult to get any decent change and 
it'll just send us back to the middle ages where there are two classes 
the extremely wealthy and the extremely poor. Don't stand for it!


/If my plan is implemented there will be plenty of work for everyone, 
making good money so they can buy what they need and pay their own way./



Nothing brings this out more than than the holiday season or Crassmust.


/You're not even making any sense: without a job to earn money there 
would be no gifts to give. You are just being negative and showing your 
prejudice - t//he whole idea of Christmas is to give./





On 11/22/2014 10:20 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
Yes, but I don't know how that would be possible. This area I now 
live in, was a paradise for the natives, for 3,000 years - no 
inter-tribal warfare, and absolute respect for territorial 
boundaries. But, they had nothing, and lived entirely off the land. I 
like my tech, and modern life, and not sure how that would happen, 
without monetary rewards.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

People sure are desperate for making money so they come up with their 
weirdest ideas.  If there is a future it's going to be VERY, VERY 
weird.  Just think what a nicer world this would be if people didn't 
have to worry about making money.


On 11/22/2014 08:11 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... 
mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:



Can't find your car? Hold your key fob up to your head.
(Really.) http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/22/7259707/car-key-fob




image http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/22/7259707/car-key-fob


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Re: [FairfieldLife] What we can learn about MMY from Bill Cosby

2014-11-23 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
I guess the freebies weren't up to snuff for Cos.  Anyone who has been 
a rock star knows about the freebies and they rape you (not that guys 
mind it).  So that's what I don't understand why he needed to arrange 
for any women. Just sez that karma has a way of coming back on you.


As for TB'ers, note that yesterday I called out a TB'er for his 
ignorance and explained how things actually work.  For some reason MJ 
took the side of the TB'er (or was too drunk to realize that he did).


On 11/23/2014 12:38 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
*/I think there are interesting parallels in terms of both being stuck 
in the past and being stuck in denial here. /*

*/
/*
*/So far, at least 13 women have come forward to say that Bill Cosby 
drugged and raped them, or at the very least, in some way forced them 
to have sex with him. Several other voices (some of them male) have 
confirmed that there was a whole support mechanism in place among 
Cosby's staff and organization to keep any of these rapes from ever 
becoming public.

/*
*/
/*
*/At the same time, the other night at a comedy performance, the 
audience gave Cosby a standing ovation.

/*
*/
/*
*/Does anyone else see the parallels here?/*
*/
/*
*/- First, how lost in the past do you have to BE to attend a Bill 
Cosby performance, all these years after he's gone over the hill? 
That's a clear parallel to people still caring about Maharishi, who is 
even more over the hill, being...uh...dead, in addition to being 
discredited.

/*
*/
/*
*/- Second, for these Cosby True Believers, nothing they've seen in 
the press or heard seems to bother them. They're still willing to 
stand and applaud Cosby, either refusing to believe that he could 
possibly have done any wrong, or refusing to consider using his 
position of power to rape women wrong. Another clear parallel to what 
TM True Believers do when new tales of Maharishi screwing his women 
students come out. They find ways to ignore them completely, so that 
they can continue idolizing MMY.

/*
*/
/*
*/- Third, notice what the Cosby True Believers say about these women 
coming forward. They call them names, Liars! being the least of 
them, and demonstrate their misogyny with every word. The MMY 
supporters do the exact same thing, demonizing the women who have had 
the courage to tell the truth about both how Maharishi seduced them, 
and then went out of his way to hide it.

/*
*/
/*
*/All in all, it looks like the behavior of True Believers is equally 
shameful, whether they're clinging to their illusions about Bill 
Cosby, or about Maharishi.../*

*/
/*
*/A Complete List of the Women Who Have Accused Bill Cosby of Sexual 
Assault 
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/11/21/bill_cosby_accusers_list_sexual_assault_rape_drugs_feature_in_women_s_stories.html?wpsrc=sh_all_dt_tw_ru/*



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A Complete List of the Women Who Have Accused Bill Cos... 
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The following women have alleged as a matter of public record that 
Bill Cosby sexually assaulted or raped them. They are listed in the 
order their allegations becam...


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-23 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

On 11/22/2014 07:01 PM, sri...@ymail.com wrote:


Maharishi originated TM.



He repacked traditional meditation for the masses.  In fact it is 
known he only gave out Ram as the mantra in the beginning.  And he 
also gave shaktipat.  He modified it over time and we don't know who 
made the suggestion but there are a lot of people in India who could 
have suggested the changes including maybe his astrologer.


He was not allowing himself to be on the puja table while alive but he 
should be now.




Under tradition we was not an acharya and thus could not be a guru dev.


No-one else's teaching is at all needed .



That mantra set will not work for everyone.  If you really want to learn 
more the TMO doesn't offer that.  You can't become an acharya with TM.


Good for you to be doing service to Brahmanada Saraswati but there is 
no greater teacher than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.




So you say.  There have been many great teachers.  It is not demeaning 
to MMY nor SBS to say so either.  We just seem to have some zealots 
around who want to turn TM into a religion.



Maharishi Mahesh Yogi is our   Guru Dev now.



Not really as explained above.  Don't hold MMY to things he wasn't set 
up for.



  Maharaja is also our Guru Dev. Jaya Guru Deva.



And that would be messing with the purity of the teaching.







Re: [FairfieldLife] Brain-tenna? Unlock your car, by touching your head

2014-11-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 11/23/2014 2:50 PM, Bhairitu wrote:



I was reading an article about Amazon in Seattle this morning and how 
Jeff Bezos is a libertarian and we know how cruel that thinking is. 
it's sink or swim, I've got mine and to hell with everyone else.


/Nobody on this forum today seems to be making any sense to me today.

Why should I depend on you or the government, an authority or anyone 
else, to tell me what I should be doing or thinking with my free will? I 
am the owner of myself and nobody else - I should be able to pursue free 
market economics if I want to./


Not only that you probably noticed that the previously apolitical 
software programmers decided that libertarianism was the cat's meow 
back in the 1990s.  Society is doomed with that kind of thinking.  
It's very Dickensonian.


/Libertarianism is //the rejection of dogma, its deliberate avoidance 
of rigidly systematic theory, and, above all, its stress on extreme 
freedom of choice and on the primacy of the individual judgment.


/

Are rich really that stupid?


/You in fact, just posted libertarian ideas today. Go figure.
/
//Woodcock, George (2004). */Anarchism: A History Of Libertarian Ideas 
And Movements/**. Peterborough*, Ont.: Broadview Press. p. 16.

/
/
Must be or wealth has fogged their minds and they are one pointed 
about one thing: making more money even though they have plenty 
already. They are destroying society.  Not that this is anything new 
it has happened before and regardless of what we try to do history 
just repeats itself.


The article on Amazon:

http://www.geekwire.com/2014/commentary-amageddon-seattles-increasingly-obvious-future/




I was last in Seattle in 2007 and it has lost it's charm. Downtown 
looked like something out of Bladerunner.


On 11/23/2014 11:01 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:


The current situation is shameful. It is lying with statistics, based 
on an outmoded tax structure - Let the ultra-wealthy give something 
back, besides the minimum. The only reason that chart is trotted out, 
is to quiet those who know they are being screwed, and to appease the 
very rich.



How is someone worth a billion dollars, going to miss a hundred 
million or so? The ultra rich use a disproportionate share of the 
common, and they should pay their fair share, without any tax breaks. 
If they did that, and corporations chipped in their fair share, that 
would be good enough for me.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

On 11/22/2014 2:28 PM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote:




Yes, I agree that a larger safety net is necessary, and the
bucks for that should come from the ultra wealthy who shirk
their national responsibility, by evading taxes.



/A new CBO study shows that ‘the rich’ don’t just pay their ‘fair
share,’ they pay almost everybody’s share.




http://www.aei.org/publication/new-cbo-study-shows-rich-dont-just-pay-fair-share-pay-almost-everybodys-share//



Otherwise, we will continue to see the middle class disappear,
and be headed for a second revolution, eventually.


Part of the issue, is that corporate titans are seen as great
visionaries and geniuses, instead of simply being true to their
charter, which is to turn as big a profit, as possible,
resources and populations be damned. We need real leaders, not
Warren Buffet and a bunch of unethical salesmen, running this
country.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@...
mailto:noozguru@... wrote :

One of the ways of doing it would be guaranteed annual income.
That's a safety net and keeps people from becoming desperate. 
In fact the crime reduction it might produce might pay for it. 
You can look up the different countries implementing it and see

how they are going to pay for it.  Otherwise limit how much
money anyone can have because we're seeing that billionaires are
mentally ill and don't deserve the power they wield.

Americans are so brainwashed with a Tarzan like capitalism
good, socialism bad meme that its difficult to get any decent
change and it'll just send us back to the middle ages where
there are two classes the extremely wealthy and the extremely
poor.  Don't stand for it!

Nothing brings this out more than than the holiday season or
Crassmust.


On 11/22/2014 10:20 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@...
mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Yes, but I don't know how that would be possible. This area
I now live in, was a paradise for the natives, for 3,000
years - no inter-tribal warfare, and absolute respect for
territorial boundaries. But, they had nothing, and lived
entirely off the land. I like my tech, and modern life, and
not sure how that would happen, without monetary rewards.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more

2014-11-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 11/23/2014 12:51 PM, emptybill wrote:


I just wanna know who gets which title?


On this forum anyone can pretty much choose their own title or alias. 
For example, I am the /Master Pundit/, because I like punditry. You 
chose /emptybill/ for your title, but you are hardly empty of 
opinions. Go figure.


You tried to give me the title of /Professor/, but I am not an 
educator. So, you can address me as /Pundit Sir. /




Re: [FairfieldLife] Thoughts and Chai in the Morning

2014-11-23 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The chai mix I bought is powdered and has skimmed milk in it.  This one might 
work for you.  I too am lactose intolerant and it doesn't bother me. 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 Avoid the ones that say chai tea on the box. :-D 
 
 I used to get the Trader Joes chai which came with milk built in.  But milk 
turns me into fartsville as I'm lactose intolerant so I learned to pass on 
chai.  I've also been reading about the shortage of organic milk in California. 
 Apparently the drought has been taking it's toll in that area.
 
 Lindsay Lohan, doing her nude scenes between meditation sessions.  Now just 
wait for Kim Kardashian to start. :-D 
 
 On 11/23/2014 12:01 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
 
   Good mornin' to ya'll,
 
 
 It's an overcast day out here in my neck of the woods, a nice respite from the 
needed rain we had last Thursday and Friday
 
 
 How many of you have tried a packaged chai in the morning?  I bought two boxes 
of this cardamon chai at a Muslim Indian grocery store in Berkeley, CA last 
week.  The chai is just a good as the one you'd get at an Indian restaurant.
 
 
 I couldn't find this brand at Safeway or other supermarket in my neighborhood. 
 But there is a small Indian grocery store at the Fillmore District which sells 
the same product...
 
 
 For the naysayers here, you should know that Lindsay Lohan has also taken up 
TM.  That's probably understandable since she has worked for Oprah Winfrey, an 
ardent TMer.  I saw this from a video clip of Ellen Degeneris Show last night.  
She too is a meditatorThere appears to be a tacit connection here with the 
TMO...
 
 
 It was nice to see the Raiders win a football game last Thursday.  They might 
win another game or two.  But in the end, they would still have a losing 
season...
 
 
 This afternoon the 49ers take on RG3 and the Redskins.  The Niners are favored 
to win.  They could probably make the playoffs.  But there is still a lingering 
rumor that Coach Harbaugh might jump ship to another team after the season is 
over...
 
 
 Meanwhile, a violin player is playing a blissful tune on the radio...
 
 
 
 

 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Sattvic Tea

2014-11-23 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Must have been T'd -off .
  From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:16 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Sattvic Tea
   
 Hmm, I wonder how Americans would react if they weren't paid for two or 
three months?
 
 On 11/23/2014 05:09 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
  
     More Sattva from the Land of the Veda 
   23 November 2014 Last updated at 06:27 ET  
India tea workers kill owner in pay dispute in West Bengal
 Workers at a tea plantation in eastern India have killed the owner during 
negotiations over a pay dispute. The owner of the Sonali tea estate in West 
Bengal was dragged out of talks on the payment of arrears. He died after being 
beaten up and stabbed by a crowd.  Police say the owner had come to pacify 
angry workers who had reportedly not been paid for two or three months. 
Correspondents say many workers in India's tea plantations are malnourished and 
poorly paid.  Several incidents of attacks on tea executives by workers have 
been reported in recent years. In 2012 a tea plantation owner and his wife were 
burned to death in the neighbouring state of Assam. 

 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts and Chai in the Morning

2014-11-23 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hi jr. - I drink Oregon Chai (available everywhere, but best price at 
TraderJoe's) - It is a liquid concentrate, 1/2 milk, 1/2 Chai, but you can use 
skim or that de-lactosed stuff. Been into it for over ten years. They shorted 
the spices about seven years ago, but I no longer notice. Go Niners!! Now that 
I no longer subsidize their stadium, I am again a fan. Harbaugh can take a 
hike. After Stanford, it is too scary for him, dealing with adults. PS More 
rain on Saturday!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Good mornin' to ya'll,
 

 It's an overcast day out here in my neck of the woods, a nice respite from the 
needed rain we had last Thursday and Friday
 

 How many of you have tried a packaged chai in the morning?  I bought two boxes 
of this cardamon chai at a Muslim Indian grocery store in Berkeley, CA last 
week.  The chai is just a good as the one you'd get at an Indian restaurant.
 

 I couldn't find this brand at Safeway or other supermarket in my neighborhood. 
 But there is a small Indian grocery store at the Fillmore District which sells 
the same product...
 

 For the naysayers here, you should know that Lindsay Lohan has also taken up 
TM.  That's probably understandable since she has worked for Oprah Winfrey, an 
ardent TMer.  I saw this from a video clip of Ellen Degeneris Show last night.  
She too is a meditatorThere appears to be a tacit connection here with the 
TMO...
 

 It was nice to see the Raiders win a football game last Thursday.  They might 
win another game or two.  But in the end, they would still have a losing 
season...
 

 This afternoon the 49ers take on RG3 and the Redskins.  The Niners are favored 
to win.  They could probably make the playoffs.  But there is still a lingering 
rumor that Coach Harbaugh might jump ship to another team after the season is 
over...
 

 Meanwhile, a violin player is playing a blissful tune on the radio...
 

 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Brain-tenna? Unlock your car, by touching your head

2014-11-23 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Corporations DO NOT pay their fair share - It is supposed to be 35 to 40%, but 
several pay NO taxes at all. They can go incorporate in Liberia, for all I care 
- Greedy, unpatriotic bastards. I like the idea of a flat tax, but will settle 
for the letter of the law. 

 PS There is exactly ONE political party in the USA - Quit getting played for a 
chump.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

 On 11/23/2014 1:01 PM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote:
 
 
   The current situation is shameful.

 
 Agreed, but the answer is not in continuing the current tax structure. I am 
opposed to unfair income taxation. A better idea might be a tax on luxury 
goods. One of the reason businesses are leaving California and the U.S. is 
because of unfair corporate taxation.
  
 It is lying with statistics,



 
 The chart was compiled in 2011 by President Obama's Congressional Budget 
Office (CBO) - it's a non-partisan analysis. It proves that the rich pay almost 
all of the income tax in the U.S. Do the math.
 
 https://www.cbo.gov/ https://www.cbo.gov/
 
 
http://www.aei.org/publication/new-cbo-study-shows-rich-dont-just-pay-fair-share-pay-almost-everybodys-share/
 
http://www.aei.org/publication/new-cbo-study-shows-rich-dont-just-pay-fair-share-pay-almost-everybodys-share/
 
 based on an outmoded tax structure - Let the ultra-wealthy give something 
back, besides the minimum. The only reason that chart is trotted out, is to 
quiet those who know they are being screwed, and to appease the very rich. 




 
 So, it's an Obama government conspiracy to quiet those who don't pay any 
income tax? You're not even making any sense today, Jim. 
 
 The federal government’s most intrusive and potentially punitive institution, 
the IRS, unquestionably worked for Barack Obama’s reelection by suppressing 
activities by conservative groups.
 
 http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-will/ 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-will-in-wisconsin-done-in-by-john-doe/2014/10/24/b30ee2ec-5ad8-11e4-b812-38518ae74c67_story.html
 
 How is someone worth a billion dollars, going to miss a hundred million or so?



 
 A few million here and a few million there and pretty soon you're talking real 
money. But, seriously it's not about the money - it's all about the jobs.
 
 The ultra rich use a disproportionate share of the common, and they should pay 
their fair share, without any tax breaks.



 
 Not sure how you figure rich people paying 90% of all the U.S. income tax is 
paying their fair share. It sounds more like the rich are the ones being 
screwed. The only fair income tax would be a flat tax. 
 
 We are all supposed to be equal under the law, not prejudiced against those 
that have more. Without the opportunity to be rich people, everyone would be 
poor. Go figure.
 
 If they did that, and corporations chipped in their fair share, that would be 
good enough for me. 




 
 It's not good enough for me until they reform the tax code and eliminate the 
IRS and implement a flat tax. A true flat rate tax is a system of taxation 
where one tax rate is applied to all income with no deductions.
 
 Flat taxes offer simplicity in the tax code, which has been reported to 
increase compliance and decrease administration costs. A true flat rate tax is 
a system of taxation where one tax rate is applied to all income with no 
exceptions. The flat rate would be applied to all taxable income and profits 
without exception or exemption. 
 
 It could be argued that under such an arrangement, no one is subject to a 
preferential or unfair tax treatment. No industry receives special treatment, 
large households are not advantaged at the expense of small ones, etc. 
 
 Moreover, the cost of tax filing for citizens and the cost of tax 
administration for the government would be further reduced, as under a true 
flat tax only businesses and the self-employed would need to interact with the 
tax authorities.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote :
 
 On 11/22/2014 2:28 PM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote:
 
 
   Yes, I agree that a larger safety net is necessary, and the bucks for that 
should come from the ultra wealthy who shirk their national responsibility, by 
evading taxes.

 
 A new CBO study shows that ‘the rich’ don’t just pay their ‘fair share,’ they 
pay almost everybody’s share.
 
 
 
 
http://www.aei.org/publication/new-cbo-study-shows-rich-dont-just-pay-fair-share-pay-almost-everybodys-share/
 
http://www.aei.org/publication/new-cbo-study-shows-rich-dont-just-pay-fair-share-pay-almost-everybodys-share/
 
 
 Otherwise, we will continue to see the middle class disappear, and be headed 
for a second revolution, eventually. 
 

 Part of the issue, is that corporate titans are seen as great visionaries and 
geniuses, instead of simply being true to their charter, which is to turn as 
big a profit, as possible, resources and populations be 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts and Chai in the Morning

2014-11-23 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
mooost definately! Chai twice a day. Indian black tea boiled in half water, 
half milk, add tea spices and sugar to taste.T relaxing.
  From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 3:53 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts and Chai in the Morning
   
    Hi jr. - I drink Oregon Chai (available everywhere, but best price at 
TraderJoe's) - It is a liquid concentrate, 1/2 milk, 1/2 Chai, but you can use 
skim or that de-lactosed stuff. Been into it for over ten years. They shorted 
the spices about seven years ago, but I no longer notice. Go Niners!! Now that 
I no longer subsidize their stadium, I am again a fan. Harbaugh can take a 
hike. After Stanford, it is too scary for him, dealing with adults. PS More 
rain on Saturday!


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

Good mornin' to ya'll,
It's an overcast day out here in my neck of the woods, a nice respite from the 
needed rain we had last Thursday and Friday
How many of you have tried a packaged chai in the morning?  I bought two boxes 
of this cardamon chai at a Muslim Indian grocery store in Berkeley, CA last 
week.  The chai is just a good as the one you'd get at an Indian restaurant.
I couldn't find this brand at Safeway or other supermarket in my neighborhood.  
But there is a small Indian grocery store at the Fillmore District which sells 
the same product...
For the naysayers here, you should know that Lindsay Lohan has also taken up 
TM.  That's probably understandable since she has worked for Oprah Winfrey, an 
ardent TMer.  I saw this from a video clip of Ellen Degeneris Show last night.  
She too is a meditatorThere appears to be a tacit connection here with the 
TMO...
It was nice to see the Raiders win a football game last Thursday.  They might 
win another game or two.  But in the end, they would still have a losing 
season...
This afternoon the 49ers take on RG3 and the Redskins.  The Niners are favored 
to win.  They could probably make the playoffs.  But there is still a lingering 
rumor that Coach Harbaugh might jump ship to another team after the season is 
over...
Meanwhile, a violin player is playing a blissful tune on the radio...

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Another test of who is the dumbest person on FFL

2014-11-23 Thread nablusoss1008
In Norse mythology the Trolls crack up and die if exposed to direct sunlight. 
That's what's happening to the Turq after Judy's, Fleetwoods and Richards' 
relentless exposure of the fellow as a liar and drunkard in denial of past and 
present. His attacks on posters here and Maharishi in particular is becoming 
more crazy every day spelling out loud for everyone to see that he is about to 
crack.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 The FFL experience has backfired on him -  

 He was going to cruise on here, all polyamortized and livin' the Ex-Pat 
Hipster Euro lifestyle, and don't even *ask* the dude about meditation, 
levitation, evolution, or movies - He Was HERE, To Show US, How It Is Done. 

 But, it isn't working out. No Plan B, either. All his eggs in one basket, and 
the bottom fell out.
 

 So all he is left with, is himself, naked, on FFL.
 

 Got soap? :-)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 Barry considers himself a writer, and as such, I think he feels compelled to 
write something every day. 

 He despises this site, and most of the people on it, but he has not place else 
to go.
 

 He lugs around his laptop from bar to bar, (or maybe dimension to dimension), 
telling us just how unworthy we are for him to participate here.
 

 A strange life indeed.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 Seriously?? This is one of your dumbest, most contrived posts, ever, and that 
is saying something... 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Since so many seem to be vying for this position, I propose another test to 
help determine the winner. Uh...I mean, the ultimate loser. 

 

 JohnR has already expressed his dismay at having been considered less dumb 
than Jim, so I graciously retracted my suggestion that JimF is dumber, and 
allowed JohnR to retain his title. 

 

 BUT, in other threads, Nabby seems to be moving down the list towards the 
bottom fast in *his* attempt to be considered the Dumbest by coming out as a 
fan of cannibalism. You've got to admit that considering Indian vagrants who 
eat other people saints is pretty dumb, and tough to beat. That's even dumber 
than Waiting For Maitreya, which was Nabby's previous low mark in terms of 
Dumbnessitude. 

 

 Therefore I suggest that if there needs to be a tie-breaker to decide whether 
JohnR or JimF are really the Dumbest, the title will go to whichever one of 
them piles on to the pro-cannibalism idea first and supports Nabby in his 
quest for the taste of human flesh. 

 

 I don't see any of the rest of the bottom-dwellers (Steve, Share, Ann, 
Richard) as having the ability to think on their own enough to win the Who Will 
Consume Human Flesh First contest, so I'm going to give the edge to JimF in 
this contest. After all, he's *already* moved out into the boonies, where there 
are fewer people around to notice if some of them go missing at the same time 
Jim seems to be preparing a new buncha meat for the winter in his smokehouse. 

 

 The only question seems to be whether Jimbo will share any of his Long Pig 
with Nabby, who, after all, suggested it first. If that happens, I suggest that 
we allow JimF and Nabby to share the title of Dumbest, with JohnR in second 
place. 

  
 















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Re: [FairfieldLife] Brain-tenna? Unlock your car, by touching your head

2014-11-23 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Here is a pretty good article in Chico's alternative paper (The Chico News 
and Review), about how Jeff runs the heart of Amazon, its warehouses: 

 http://www.newsreview.com/chico/dark-side-of-a-commercial/content?oid=15407823 
http://www.newsreview.com/chico/dark-side-of-a-commercial/content?oid=15407823
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 I was reading an article about Amazon in Seattle this morning and how Jeff 
Bezos is a libertarian and we know how cruel that thinking is. it's sink or 
swim, I've got mine and to hell with everyone else.  Not only that you 
probably noticed that the previously apolitical software programmers decided 
that libertarianism was the cat's meow back in the 1990s.  Society is doomed 
with that  kind of thinking.  It's very Dickensonian.
 
 Are rich really that stupid?  Must be or wealth has fogged their minds and 
they are one pointed about one thing: making more money even though they have 
plenty already.  They are destroying society.  Not that this is anything new it 
has happened before and regardless of what we try to do history just repeats 
itself.
 
 The article on Amazon:
 
 
http://www.geekwire.com/2014/commentary-amageddon-seattles-increasingly-obvious-future/
 
http://www.geekwire.com/2014/commentary-amageddon-seattles-increasingly-obvious-future/
 
 I was last in Seattle in 2007 and it has lost it's charm.  Downtown looked 
like something out of Bladerunner.
 
 On 11/23/2014 11:01 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... 
mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

   The current situation is shameful. It is lying with statistics, based on an 
outmoded tax structure - Let the ultra-wealthy give something back, besides the 
minimum. The only reason that chart is trotted out, is to quiet those who know 
they are being screwed, and to appease the very rich. 
 

 How is someone worth a billion dollars, going to miss a hundred million or so? 
The ultra rich use a disproportionate share of the common, and they should pay 
their fair share, without any tax breaks. If they did that, and corporations 
chipped in their fair share, that would be good enough for me.  
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote :
 
 On 11/22/2014 2:28 PM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote:
 
 
   Yes, I agree that a larger safety net is necessary, and the bucks for that 
should come from the ultra wealthy who shirk their national responsibility, by 
evading taxes.

 
 A new CBO study shows that ‘the rich’ don’t just pay their ‘fair share,’ they 
pay almost everybody’s share.
 
 
 
 
http://www.aei.org/publication/new-cbo-study-shows-rich-dont-just-pay-fair-share-pay-almost-everybodys-share/
 
http://www.aei.org/publication/new-cbo-study-shows-rich-dont-just-pay-fair-share-pay-almost-everybodys-share/
 
 
 Otherwise, we will continue to see the middle class disappear, and be headed 
for a second revolution, eventually. 
 

 Part of the issue, is that corporate titans are seen as great visionaries and 
geniuses, instead of simply being true to their charter, which is to turn as 
big a profit, as possible, resources and populations be damned. We need real 
leaders, not Warren Buffet and a bunch of unethical salesmen, running this 
country. 
  
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 One of the ways of doing it would be guaranteed annual income.  That's a 
safety net and keeps people from becoming desperate.  In fact the crime 
reduction it might produce might pay for it.  You can look up the different 
countries implementing it and see how they are going to pay for it.  Otherwise 
limit how much money anyone can have because we're seeing that billionaires are 
mentally ill and don't deserve the power they wield.
 
 Americans are so brainwashed with a Tarzan like capitalism good, socialism 
bad meme that its difficult to get any decent change and it'll just send us 
back to the middle ages where there are two classes the extremely wealthy and 
the extremely poor.  Don't stand for it!
 
 Nothing brings this out more than than the holiday season or Crassmust.
 
 
 On 11/22/2014 10:20 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... 
mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

   Yes, but I don't know how that would be possible. This area I now live in, 
was a paradise for the natives, for 3,000 years - no inter-tribal warfare, and 
absolute respect for territorial boundaries. But, they had nothing, and lived 
entirely off the land. I like my tech, and modern life, and not sure how that 
would happen, without monetary rewards.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 People sure are desperate for making money so they come up with their weirdest 
ideas.  If there is a future it's going to be VERY, VERY weird.  Just think 
what a nicer world this would be 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts and Chai in the Morning

2014-11-23 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Fleetwood, 

 I'll have to try Trader Joe's.  I usually don't shop there, but will try 
it...The Niners won a tough game today.  Now, the next challenge is to win 
against the Seahawks this Thursday.  That should be a barn burner.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 Hi jr. - I drink Oregon Chai (available everywhere, but best price at 
TraderJoe's) - It is a liquid concentrate, 1/2 milk, 1/2 Chai, but you can use 
skim or that de-lactosed stuff. Been into it for over ten years. They shorted 
the spices about seven years ago, but I no longer notice. Go Niners!! Now that 
I no longer subsidize their stadium, I am again a fan. Harbaugh can take a 
hike. After Stanford, it is too scary for him, dealing with adults. PS More 
rain on Saturday!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Good mornin' to ya'll,
 

 It's an overcast day out here in my neck of the woods, a nice respite from the 
needed rain we had last Thursday and Friday
 

 How many of you have tried a packaged chai in the morning?  I bought two boxes 
of this cardamon chai at a Muslim Indian grocery store in Berkeley, CA last 
week.  The chai is just a good as the one you'd get at an Indian restaurant.
 

 I couldn't find this brand at Safeway or other supermarket in my neighborhood. 
 But there is a small Indian grocery store at the Fillmore District which sells 
the same product...
 

 For the naysayers here, you should know that Lindsay Lohan has also taken up 
TM.  That's probably understandable since she has worked for Oprah Winfrey, an 
ardent TMer.  I saw this from a video clip of Ellen Degeneris Show last night.  
She too is a meditatorThere appears to be a tacit connection here with the 
TMO...
 

 It was nice to see the Raiders win a football game last Thursday.  They might 
win another game or two.  But in the end, they would still have a losing 
season...
 

 This afternoon the 49ers take on RG3 and the Redskins.  The Niners are favored 
to win.  They could probably make the playoffs.  But there is still a lingering 
rumor that Coach Harbaugh might jump ship to another team after the season is 
over...
 

 Meanwhile, a violin player is playing a blissful tune on the radio...
 

 








Re: [FairfieldLife] Thoughts and Chai in the Morning

2014-11-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 11/23/2014 2:01 PM, jr_esq wrote:



Good mornin' to ya'll,



Good evening.



It's an overcast day out here in my neck of the woods, a nice respite 
from the needed rain we had last Thursday and Friday




We had rain last night and today it is clear and warm.



How many of you have tried a packaged chai in the morning?  I bought 
two boxes of this cardamon chai at a Muslim Indian grocery store in 
Berkeley, CA last week.  The chai is just a good as the one you'd get 
at an Indian restaurant.




We used to enjoy prepared hot /chai/ in the morning, or anytime for 
that matter. We can't consume it much anymore since I am diabetic and 
Rita is on a diet. Now I have to drink my coffee black, so we only buy 
beans at Whole Foods and grind them ourselves. I wonder how old those 
beans are? We can't stand cheap coffee anymore. A friend of ours drives 
across town just to get fresh-roasted beans that are only one hour old 
if you get there in the morning. Go figure.


Here is a nice recipe for home brewed /chai /from Epicurious:

Ingredients: /

Filtered water; Darjeeling black tea leaves; cardamon pods, ginger, 
cinnamon, black peppercorns, whole cloves, brown sugar; and whole milk./


Directions: /

Combine the ingredients by lightly crushing using a mortar and pestle 
and place in a saucepan. Add and bring to a boil on high heat; reduce 
heat and cover and let simmer for 10 minutes. ///Place the tea leaves in 
a strainer. Immerse the strainer full of leaves in the tea cup full of 
the ingredients mixture and steep for a few minutes. Remove the strainer 
filled with the tea leaves and add milk and sugar to taste and whisk for 
a few minutes. Serve hot in a cup or mug./Enjoy.


/http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Homemade-Chai-201226/

/Thoughts on the word /chai:/

/Camellia sinensis/, from the Madarin Chinese word for tea (cha) which 
was invented in China as a medicinal drink back in the 10th century 
B.C.  The word /chai/ comes from the Persian which was derived from 
Mandarin Chinese, which passed overland to Central Asia and Persia on 
the Silk Road, where it picked up the Persian grammatical suffix -yi 
before passing on to Russian, Arabic, Urdu, Turkish, and Indian languages.




I couldn't find this brand at Safeway or other supermarket in my 
neighborhood.  But there is a small Indian grocery store at the 
Fillmore District which sells the same product...


For the naysayers here, you should know that Lindsay Lohan has also 
taken up TM.  That's probably understandable since she has worked for 
Oprah Winfrey, an ardent TMer.  I saw this from a video clip of Ellen 
Degeneris Show last night.  She too is a meditatorThere appears to 
be a tacit connection here with the TMO...




/Everyone seems to be getting into the TM these days./



It was nice to see the Raiders win a football game last Thursday. 
 They might win another game or two.  But in the end, they would still 
have a losing season...


This afternoon the 49ers take on RG3 and the Redskins.  The Niners are 
favored to win.  They could probably make the playoffs.  But there is 
still a lingering rumor that Coach Harbaugh might jump ship to another 
team after the season is over...


Meanwhile, a violin player is playing a blissful tune on the radio...








[FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more

2014-11-23 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This is in regard to the faux enlightenment call that Barry makes in regard to 
Jim. Now I do not know what Barry experiences, or what Jim experiences, but 
Barry always seems to me more in control of what he says than Jim. At any rate 
the exchanges between these two would not probably pass muster as a discussion 
that had anything to do with enlightenment, but Barry is not claiming that this 
is what it is about, while Jim seems to be promoting the exchange as a 
demonstration of enlightenment (Jim) versus ignorance (Barry).
 

 Jim said the following (emphasis in the original):
 





 Enlightenment is simply defined as life, accompanied by eternal and deep 
silence, Being, during any state of consciousness. End of story. There are no 
automatic attributes beyond that, as the universe takes care of the rest. 
Anyone can gain enlightenment, and with that, their individuality will always 
express enlightenment. To try for some sort of personal algorithm beyond that, 
is a fool's errand; better to focus on your own path, than try to come up with 
any comprehensive list of personal attributes. Silence in activity, always. 
Period.




 

 In the following the first four paragraphs are an edited down version of an 
essay by a Vedantist. The rather short attention span of most of the readers on 
FFL is the reason for the edits.
 

 'Many teachers promote one of the most famous myths, that silence is somehow 
the ultimate teaching. While understanding the nature of the self in silence 
apparently finishes seeking for a few individuals, silence is certainly not 
superior to the skillful use of words in bringing about enlightenment. This is 
so because silence is in harmony, not in conflict, with self ignorance, as it 
is with everything.' 
 

 'One can sit in silence without instruction for lifetimes and never realize 
that one is the silence. Knowledge, however, which is a legitimate means of 
knowledge, destroys self ignorance like light destroys darkness. Additionally 
no experience, including the experience of silence, can change thinking 
patterns.' 
 

 'An experience of non-duality may temporarily suspend thought or increase 
one's resolve to see oneself as limitless awareness, but the notion that the 
I is limited, inadequate, incomplete and separate is hard wired. It is only 
by diligent practice of the knowledge I am limitless, ordinary awareness and 
not this body-mind that the mind's understanding of reality gets in line with 
the nature of the self.' 
 

 'Why are binding desires such a major problem for anyone seeking 
enlightenment? Because they disturb the mind to such a degree that contact with 
the self as it reflects in the mind is broken, making self inquiry impossible. 
It is contemplation on the reflection of the self in the mind that allows the 
intellect to investigate the self in line with the teachings of self inquiry 
and gain the knowledge I am the self.
 

 Some notes here: Anyone who happens to be a Buddhist needs to substitute 
another word for self in the above discussion, as the central feature of 
Buddhism is there is no self, meaning the individual self, person, that people 
think they are. Whereas in the above discussion, self refers to unbounded 
awareness. Now in Maharishi's schema, transcendental consciousness cannot count 
as unbounded awareness because in TC you have no thought and the concept 
'unbounded awareness' cannot be formulated, the concept is formulated once back 
in ordinary waking as a description of that state as it is remembered and 
compared to waking. 
 

 Cosmic consciousness, also in Maharishi's scheme, is silence that accompanies 
activity, but it is walled off from the activity, so this cannot be unbounded 
awareness either, as it does not penetrate into the world of the senses, it is 
bound by this separation, and neither does more enhanced sensory experience add 
anything to the equation. 
 

 Now even unity, where objects are appreciated in terms of 'I', that sense of 
'I am that' still shows a lingering sense of separated identity, fragmentation, 
and decoherence of experience, otherwise it would not be necessary to say there 
is an I in relation to 'that'. For experience to be 'unbounded' the essential 
value of existence has to be equally present at every aspect of experience all 
the time as that experience. This is actually a no brainer, because ignorant or 
enlightened, the essential value of existence is always present as the 
experience, so it is something one has always known. That is, enlightenment 
does not bring anything new into experience. The things you do to get 
enlightened obviously do have a sometimes profound influence on experience, but 
enlightenment itself is nothing new under the sun.
 

 It is also open to question whether the silence ascribed to enlightenment is 
really silence. The absence or reduction of mind chatter, does not necessarily 
indicate one is enlightened, there are many situations that can lead to the 
mind 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts and Chai in the Morning

2014-11-23 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yep, that Chai is good! - I caught the 49er/Skins highlights - Glad they won - 
Looking forward to Thursday's match too! Saw Harbaugh on the news, and he was 
talking about the team as if was someone else's - He's definitely leaving...
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Fleetwood, 

 I'll have to try Trader Joe's.  I usually don't shop there, but will try 
it...The Niners won a tough game today.  Now, the next challenge is to win 
against the Seahawks this Thursday.  That should be a barn burner.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 Hi jr. - I drink Oregon Chai (available everywhere, but best price at 
TraderJoe's) - It is a liquid concentrate, 1/2 milk, 1/2 Chai, but you can use 
skim or that de-lactosed stuff. Been into it for over ten years. They shorted 
the spices about seven years ago, but I no longer notice. Go Niners!! Now that 
I no longer subsidize their stadium, I am again a fan. Harbaugh can take a 
hike. After Stanford, it is too scary for him, dealing with adults. PS More 
rain on Saturday!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Good mornin' to ya'll,
 

 It's an overcast day out here in my neck of the woods, a nice respite from the 
needed rain we had last Thursday and Friday
 

 How many of you have tried a packaged chai in the morning?  I bought two boxes 
of this cardamon chai at a Muslim Indian grocery store in Berkeley, CA last 
week.  The chai is just a good as the one you'd get at an Indian restaurant.
 

 I couldn't find this brand at Safeway or other supermarket in my neighborhood. 
 But there is a small Indian grocery store at the Fillmore District which sells 
the same product...
 

 For the naysayers here, you should know that Lindsay Lohan has also taken up 
TM.  That's probably understandable since she has worked for Oprah Winfrey, an 
ardent TMer.  I saw this from a video clip of Ellen Degeneris Show last night.  
She too is a meditatorThere appears to be a tacit connection here with the 
TMO...
 

 It was nice to see the Raiders win a football game last Thursday.  They might 
win another game or two.  But in the end, they would still have a losing 
season...
 

 This afternoon the 49ers take on RG3 and the Redskins.  The Niners are favored 
to win.  They could probably make the playoffs.  But there is still a lingering 
rumor that Coach Harbaugh might jump ship to another team after the season is 
over...
 

 Meanwhile, a violin player is playing a blissful tune on the radio...
 

 










[FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more

2014-11-23 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Here's another pertinent point, and I'm sorry if this doesn't address whatever 
you've written below. 

 And these are almost exact quotes.
 

 From anartaxius:
 

 Barry likes to push people's buttons to see what kind of reaction he can get
 

 And from sal:
 

 Barry likes a good tease
 

 Evidently the manner in which Barry pushes people's buttons, or likes a 
good tease is acceptable to you. 
  
 I think it might indicate something a little out of whack, and I'd just bet, 
that if Barry consulted his psychiatrist friend who made the NPD diagnosis on 
Robin about what it might indicate about a person who engages continually in a 
a good tease, or pushing people's buttons, the conclusion may not be too 
favorable.

 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 This is in regard to the faux enlightenment call that Barry makes in regard to 
Jim. Now I do not know what Barry experiences, or what Jim experiences, but 
Barry always seems to me more in control of what he says than Jim. At any rate 
the exchanges between these two would not probably pass muster as a discussion 
that had anything to do with enlightenment, but Barry is not claiming that this 
is what it is about, while Jim seems to be promoting the exchange as a 
demonstration of enlightenment (Jim) versus ignorance (Barry).
 

 Jim said the following (emphasis in the original):
 





 Enlightenment is simply defined as life, accompanied by eternal and deep 
silence, Being, during any state of consciousness. End of story. There are no 
automatic attributes beyond that, as the universe takes care of the rest. 
Anyone can gain enlightenment, and with that, their individuality will always 
express enlightenment. To try for some sort of personal algorithm beyond that, 
is a fool's errand; better to focus on your own path, than try to come up with 
any comprehensive list of personal attributes. Silence in activity, always. 
Period.




 

 In the following the first four paragraphs are an edited down version of an 
essay by a Vedantist. The rather short attention span of most of the readers on 
FFL is the reason for the edits.
 

 'Many teachers promote one of the most famous myths, that silence is somehow 
the ultimate teaching. While understanding the nature of the self in silence 
apparently finishes seeking for a few individuals, silence is certainly not 
superior to the skillful use of words in bringing about enlightenment. This is 
so because silence is in harmony, not in conflict, with self ignorance, as it 
is with everything.' 
 

 'One can sit in silence without instruction for lifetimes and never realize 
that one is the silence. Knowledge, however, which is a legitimate means of 
knowledge, destroys self ignorance like light destroys darkness. Additionally 
no experience, including the experience of silence, can change thinking 
patterns.' 
 

 'An experience of non-duality may temporarily suspend thought or increase 
one's resolve to see oneself as limitless awareness, but the notion that the 
I is limited, inadequate, incomplete and separate is hard wired. It is only 
by diligent practice of the knowledge I am limitless, ordinary awareness and 
not this body-mind that the mind's understanding of reality gets in line with 
the nature of the self.' 
 

 'Why are binding desires such a major problem for anyone seeking 
enlightenment? Because they disturb the mind to such a degree that contact with 
the self as it reflects in the mind is broken, making self inquiry impossible. 
It is contemplation on the reflection of the self in the mind that allows the 
intellect to investigate the self in line with the teachings of self inquiry 
and gain the knowledge I am the self.
 

 Some notes here: Anyone who happens to be a Buddhist needs to substitute 
another word for self in the above discussion, as the central feature of 
Buddhism is there is no self, meaning the individual self, person, that people 
think they are. Whereas in the above discussion, self refers to unbounded 
awareness. Now in Maharishi's schema, transcendental consciousness cannot count 
as unbounded awareness because in TC you have no thought and the concept 
'unbounded awareness' cannot be formulated, the concept is formulated once back 
in ordinary waking as a description of that state as it is remembered and 
compared to waking. 
 

 Cosmic consciousness, also in Maharishi's scheme, is silence that accompanies 
activity, but it is walled off from the activity, so this cannot be unbounded 
awareness either, as it does not penetrate into the world of the senses, it is 
bound by this separation, and neither does more enhanced sensory experience add 
anything to the equation. 
 

 Now even unity, where objects are appreciated in terms of 'I', that sense of 
'I am that' still shows a lingering sense of separated identity, fragmentation, 
and decoherence of experience, otherwise it would not be necessary to say there 
is an I in relation to 'that'. For 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more

2014-11-23 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
If I boil this down, there is a familiar, and tiresome, challenge here - Is 
Jim's enlightenment real? Specifically his reports of 24/7 silence? Can the two 
even be equated?  

 Here is my esteemed answer: Who cares? I don't. I've written volumes about my 
experience, far more than the snippet below. Knock yourself out dude, trying to 
prove my enlightenment, one way or the other. 
 

 My point has always been that enlightenment is achievable, by anyone, using 
the techniques of TM and the TM Sidhis. If I can do it, anyone can. 
Enlightenment is a natural state of consciousness.
 

 That's the point. Now, stay on point - 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 This is in regard to the faux enlightenment call that Barry makes in regard to 
Jim. Now I do not know what Barry experiences, or what Jim experiences, but 
Barry always seems to me more in control of what he says than Jim. At any rate 
the exchanges between these two would not probably pass muster as a discussion 
that had anything to do with enlightenment, but Barry is not claiming that this 
is what it is about, while Jim seems to be promoting the exchange as a 
demonstration of enlightenment (Jim) versus ignorance (Barry).
 

 Jim said the following (emphasis in the original):
 





 Enlightenment is simply defined as life, accompanied by eternal and deep 
silence, Being, during any state of consciousness. End of story. There are no 
automatic attributes beyond that, as the universe takes care of the rest. 
Anyone can gain enlightenment, and with that, their individuality will always 
express enlightenment. To try for some sort of personal algorithm beyond that, 
is a fool's errand; better to focus on your own path, than try to come up with 
any comprehensive list of personal attributes. Silence in activity, always. 
Period.




 

 In the following the first four paragraphs are an edited down version of an 
essay by a Vedantist. The rather short attention span of most of the readers on 
FFL is the reason for the edits.
 

 'Many teachers promote one of the most famous myths, that silence is somehow 
the ultimate teaching. While understanding the nature of the self in silence 
apparently finishes seeking for a few individuals, silence is certainly not 
superior to the skillful use of words in bringing about enlightenment. This is 
so because silence is in harmony, not in conflict, with self ignorance, as it 
is with everything.' 
 

 'One can sit in silence without instruction for lifetimes and never realize 
that one is the silence. Knowledge, however, which is a legitimate means of 
knowledge, destroys self ignorance like light destroys darkness. Additionally 
no experience, including the experience of silence, can change thinking 
patterns.' 
 

 'An experience of non-duality may temporarily suspend thought or increase 
one's resolve to see oneself as limitless awareness, but the notion that the 
I is limited, inadequate, incomplete and separate is hard wired. It is only 
by diligent practice of the knowledge I am limitless, ordinary awareness and 
not this body-mind that the mind's understanding of reality gets in line with 
the nature of the self.' 
 

 'Why are binding desires such a major problem for anyone seeking 
enlightenment? Because they disturb the mind to such a degree that contact with 
the self as it reflects in the mind is broken, making self inquiry impossible. 
It is contemplation on the reflection of the self in the mind that allows the 
intellect to investigate the self in line with the teachings of self inquiry 
and gain the knowledge I am the self.
 

 Some notes here: Anyone who happens to be a Buddhist needs to substitute 
another word for self in the above discussion, as the central feature of 
Buddhism is there is no self, meaning the individual self, person, that people 
think they are. Whereas in the above discussion, self refers to unbounded 
awareness. Now in Maharishi's schema, transcendental consciousness cannot count 
as unbounded awareness because in TC you have no thought and the concept 
'unbounded awareness' cannot be formulated, the concept is formulated once back 
in ordinary waking as a description of that state as it is remembered and 
compared to waking. 
 

 Cosmic consciousness, also in Maharishi's scheme, is silence that accompanies 
activity, but it is walled off from the activity, so this cannot be unbounded 
awareness either, as it does not penetrate into the world of the senses, it is 
bound by this separation, and neither does more enhanced sensory experience add 
anything to the equation. 
 

 Now even unity, where objects are appreciated in terms of 'I', that sense of 
'I am that' still shows a lingering sense of separated identity, fragmentation, 
and decoherence of experience, otherwise it would not be necessary to say there 
is an I in relation to 'that'. For experience to be 'unbounded' the essential 
value of existence has to be equally present at every aspect 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more

2014-11-23 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 This is in regard to the faux enlightenment call that Barry makes in regard to 
Jim. Now I do not know what Barry experiences, or what Jim experiences, but 
Barry always seems to me more in control of what he says than Jim. At any rate 
the exchanges between these two would not probably pass muster as a discussion 
that had anything to do with enlightenment, but Barry is not claiming that this 
is what it is about, while Jim seems to be promoting the exchange as a 
demonstration of enlightenment (Jim) versus ignorance (Barry).
 

 Jim said the following (emphasis in the original):
 





 Enlightenment is simply defined as life, accompanied by eternal and deep 
silence, Being, during any state of consciousness. End of story. There are no 
automatic attributes beyond that, as the universe takes care of the rest. 
Anyone can gain enlightenment, and with that, their individuality will always 
express enlightenment. To try for some sort of personal algorithm beyond that, 
is a fool's errand; better to focus on your own path, than try to come up with 
any comprehensive list of personal attributes. Silence in activity, always. 
Period.




 

 In the following the first four paragraphs are an edited down version of an 
essay by a Vedantist. The rather short attention span of most of the readers on 
FFL is the reason for the edits.
 

 'Many teachers promote one of the most famous myths, that silence is somehow 
the ultimate teaching. While understanding the nature of the self in silence 
apparently finishes seeking for a few individuals, silence is certainly not 
superior to the skillful use of words in bringing about enlightenment. This is 
so because silence is in harmony, not in conflict, with self ignorance, as it 
is with everything.' 
 

 'One can sit in silence without instruction for lifetimes and never realize 
that one is the silence. Knowledge, however, which is a legitimate means of 
knowledge, destroys self ignorance like light destroys darkness. Additionally 
no experience, including the experience of silence, can change thinking 
patterns.' 
 

 'An experience of non-duality may temporarily suspend thought or increase 
one's resolve to see oneself as limitless awareness, but the notion that the 
I is limited, inadequate, incomplete and separate is hard wired. It is only 
by diligent practice of the knowledge I am limitless, ordinary awareness and 
not this body-mind that the mind's understanding of reality gets in line with 
the nature of the self.' 
 

 'Why are binding desires such a major problem for anyone seeking 
enlightenment? Because they disturb the mind to such a degree that contact with 
the self as it reflects in the mind is broken, making self inquiry impossible. 
It is contemplation on the reflection of the self in the mind that allows the 
intellect to investigate the self in line with the teachings of self inquiry 
and gain the knowledge I am the self.
 

 Some notes here: Anyone who happens to be a Buddhist needs to substitute 
another word for self in the above discussion, as the central feature of 
Buddhism is there is no self, meaning the individual self, person, that people 
think they are. Whereas in the above discussion, self refers to unbounded 
awareness. Now in Maharishi's schema, transcendental consciousness cannot count 
as unbounded awareness because in TC you have no thought and the concept 
'unbounded awareness' cannot be formulated, the concept is formulated once back 
in ordinary waking as a description of that state as it is remembered and 
compared to waking. 
 

 Cosmic consciousness, also in Maharishi's scheme, is silence that accompanies 
activity, but it is walled off from the activity, so this cannot be unbounded 
awareness either, as it does not penetrate into the world of the senses, it is 
bound by this separation, and neither does more enhanced sensory experience add 
anything to the equation. 
 

 Now even unity, where objects are appreciated in terms of 'I', that sense of 
'I am that' still shows a lingering sense of separated identity, fragmentation, 
and decoherence of experience, otherwise it would not be necessary to say there 
is an I in relation to 'that'. For experience to be 'unbounded' the essential 
value of existence has to be equally present at every aspect of experience all 
the time as that experience. This is actually a no brainer, because ignorant or 
enlightened, the essential value of existence is always present as the 
experience, so it is something one has always known. That is, enlightenment 
does not bring anything new into experience. The things you do to get 
enlightened obviously do have a sometimes profound influence on experience, but 
enlightenment itself is nothing new under the sun.
 

 It is also open to question whether the silence ascribed to enlightenment is 
really silence. The absence or reduction of mind chatter, does not necessarily 
indicate one is 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more

2014-11-23 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Anartaxius is a coward, and cowards like bullies, like Barry. That is all it is.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 Here's another pertinent point, and I'm sorry if this doesn't address whatever 
you've written below. 

 And these are almost exact quotes.
 

 From anartaxius:
 

 Barry likes to push people's buttons to see what kind of reaction he can get
 

 And from sal:
 

 Barry likes a good tease
 

 Evidently the manner in which Barry pushes people's buttons, or likes a 
good tease is acceptable to you. 
  
 I think it might indicate something a little out of whack, and I'd just bet, 
that if Barry consulted his psychiatrist friend who made the NPD diagnosis on 
Robin about what it might indicate about a person who engages continually in a 
a good tease, or pushing people's buttons, the conclusion may not be too 
favorable.

 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 This is in regard to the faux enlightenment call that Barry makes in regard to 
Jim. Now I do not know what Barry experiences, or what Jim experiences, but 
Barry always seems to me more in control of what he says than Jim. At any rate 
the exchanges between these two would not probably pass muster as a discussion 
that had anything to do with enlightenment, but Barry is not claiming that this 
is what it is about, while Jim seems to be promoting the exchange as a 
demonstration of enlightenment (Jim) versus ignorance (Barry).
 

 Jim said the following (emphasis in the original):
 





 Enlightenment is simply defined as life, accompanied by eternal and deep 
silence, Being, during any state of consciousness. End of story. There are no 
automatic attributes beyond that, as the universe takes care of the rest. 
Anyone can gain enlightenment, and with that, their individuality will always 
express enlightenment. To try for some sort of personal algorithm beyond that, 
is a fool's errand; better to focus on your own path, than try to come up with 
any comprehensive list of personal attributes. Silence in activity, always. 
Period.




 

 In the following the first four paragraphs are an edited down version of an 
essay by a Vedantist. The rather short attention span of most of the readers on 
FFL is the reason for the edits.
 

 'Many teachers promote one of the most famous myths, that silence is somehow 
the ultimate teaching. While understanding the nature of the self in silence 
apparently finishes seeking for a few individuals, silence is certainly not 
superior to the skillful use of words in bringing about enlightenment. This is 
so because silence is in harmony, not in conflict, with self ignorance, as it 
is with everything.' 
 

 'One can sit in silence without instruction for lifetimes and never realize 
that one is the silence. Knowledge, however, which is a legitimate means of 
knowledge, destroys self ignorance like light destroys darkness. Additionally 
no experience, including the experience of silence, can change thinking 
patterns.' 
 

 'An experience of non-duality may temporarily suspend thought or increase 
one's resolve to see oneself as limitless awareness, but the notion that the 
I is limited, inadequate, incomplete and separate is hard wired. It is only 
by diligent practice of the knowledge I am limitless, ordinary awareness and 
not this body-mind that the mind's understanding of reality gets in line with 
the nature of the self.' 
 

 'Why are binding desires such a major problem for anyone seeking 
enlightenment? Because they disturb the mind to such a degree that contact with 
the self as it reflects in the mind is broken, making self inquiry impossible. 
It is contemplation on the reflection of the self in the mind that allows the 
intellect to investigate the self in line with the teachings of self inquiry 
and gain the knowledge I am the self.
 

 Some notes here: Anyone who happens to be a Buddhist needs to substitute 
another word for self in the above discussion, as the central feature of 
Buddhism is there is no self, meaning the individual self, person, that people 
think they are. Whereas in the above discussion, self refers to unbounded 
awareness. Now in Maharishi's schema, transcendental consciousness cannot count 
as unbounded awareness because in TC you have no thought and the concept 
'unbounded awareness' cannot be formulated, the concept is formulated once back 
in ordinary waking as a description of that state as it is remembered and 
compared to waking. 
 

 Cosmic consciousness, also in Maharishi's scheme, is silence that accompanies 
activity, but it is walled off from the activity, so this cannot be unbounded 
awareness either, as it does not penetrate into the world of the senses, it is 
bound by this separation, and neither does more enhanced sensory experience add 
anything to the equation. 
 

 Now even unity, where objects are appreciated in terms of 'I', that sense of 
'I am that' still shows a lingering sense of 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more

2014-11-23 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 Anartaxius is a coward, and cowards like bullies, like Barry. That is all it 
is.
 

 Maybe he just needs better reading glasses. I'll give him the benefit of the 
doubt for the moment.
 


 




 








[FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more

2014-11-23 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That's funny Ann.  In reading you reply, I caught the last line of xeno's 
dissertation about Barry being a terrorist in Beliefland 

 Xeno is probably pretty proud of what he thinks is a clever phrase, and he 
probably just made Barry' month.
 

 Speaking of which, I wonder if the Leiden gang will celebrate Thanksgiving. 
 

 Prolly not, unless it could be perceived as a multi dimensional affair, I 
suppose, or at least for Barry.
 

 Anyway, what you said Ann, is right on.
 

 If he could just pull himself out of the strawman rut, he's make a much 
better informant.
 

 But, I don't see that happening, unfortunately.
 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 This is in regard to the faux enlightenment call that Barry makes in regard to 
Jim. Now I do not know what Barry experiences, or what Jim experiences, but 
Barry always seems to me more in control of what he says than Jim. At any rate 
the exchanges between these two would not probably pass muster as a discussion 
that had anything to do with enlightenment, but Barry is not claiming that this 
is what it is about, while Jim seems to be promoting the exchange as a 
demonstration of enlightenment (Jim) versus ignorance (Barry).
 

 Jim said the following (emphasis in the original):
 





 Enlightenment is simply defined as life, accompanied by eternal and deep 
silence, Being, during any state of consciousness. End of story. There are no 
automatic attributes beyond that, as the universe takes care of the rest. 
Anyone can gain enlightenment, and with that, their individuality will always 
express enlightenment. To try for some sort of personal algorithm beyond that, 
is a fool's errand; better to focus on your own path, than try to come up with 
any comprehensive list of personal attributes. Silence in activity, always. 
Period.




 

 In the following the first four paragraphs are an edited down version of an 
essay by a Vedantist. The rather short attention span of most of the readers on 
FFL is the reason for the edits.
 

 'Many teachers promote one of the most famous myths, that silence is somehow 
the ultimate teaching. While understanding the nature of the self in silence 
apparently finishes seeking for a few individuals, silence is certainly not 
superior to the skillful use of words in bringing about enlightenment. This is 
so because silence is in harmony, not in conflict, with self ignorance, as it 
is with everything.' 
 

 'One can sit in silence without instruction for lifetimes and never realize 
that one is the silence. Knowledge, however, which is a legitimate means of 
knowledge, destroys self ignorance like light destroys darkness. Additionally 
no experience, including the experience of silence, can change thinking 
patterns.' 
 

 'An experience of non-duality may temporarily suspend thought or increase 
one's resolve to see oneself as limitless awareness, but the notion that the 
I is limited, inadequate, incomplete and separate is hard wired. It is only 
by diligent practice of the knowledge I am limitless, ordinary awareness and 
not this body-mind that the mind's understanding of reality gets in line with 
the nature of the self.' 
 

 'Why are binding desires such a major problem for anyone seeking 
enlightenment? Because they disturb the mind to such a degree that contact with 
the self as it reflects in the mind is broken, making self inquiry impossible. 
It is contemplation on the reflection of the self in the mind that allows the 
intellect to investigate the self in line with the teachings of self inquiry 
and gain the knowledge I am the self.
 

 Some notes here: Anyone who happens to be a Buddhist needs to substitute 
another word for self in the above discussion, as the central feature of 
Buddhism is there is no self, meaning the individual self, person, that people 
think they are. Whereas in the above discussion, self refers to unbounded 
awareness. Now in Maharishi's schema, transcendental consciousness cannot count 
as unbounded awareness because in TC you have no thought and the concept 
'unbounded awareness' cannot be formulated, the concept is formulated once back 
in ordinary waking as a description of that state as it is remembered and 
compared to waking. 
 

 Cosmic consciousness, also in Maharishi's scheme, is silence that accompanies 
activity, but it is walled off from the activity, so this cannot be unbounded 
awareness either, as it does not penetrate into the world of the senses, it is 
bound by this separation, and neither does more enhanced sensory experience add 
anything to the equation. 
 

 Now even unity, where objects are appreciated in terms of 'I', that sense of 
'I am that' still shows a lingering sense of separated identity, fragmentation, 
and decoherence of experience, otherwise it would not be necessary to say there 
is an I in relation to 'that'. For experience to be 'unbounded' the 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Brain-tenna? Unlock your car, by touching your head

2014-11-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 11/23/2014 5:58 PM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote:



Corporations DO NOT pay their fair share - It is supposed to be 35 to 
40%, but several pay NO taxes at all. They can go incorporate in 
Liberia, for all I care - Greedy, unpatriotic bastards. I like the 
idea of a flat tax, but will settle for the letter of the law.



PS There is exactly ONE political party in the USA - Quit getting 
played for a chump.


It looks like we are in some agreement. Both political parties are not 
working in our interest. Bhairitu's idea of a third party makes a lot of 
sense. In the next presidential election I may vote independent. It's 
easy to paint taxation with a large brush and to combine notions of 
individual earned income tax with corporate taxation and the idea of 
taxing the rich. It's complicated.


The problem with taxing the rich is that when the economy is good 
politicians love it, but when the economy is poor, they hate it - the 
instability is not a good thing. In California what is needed is a flat 
tax rate to help stabilize state revenues, according to U.S. Rep Tom 
McClintock (R., CA).


/The working class may be taking a beating from spending cuts used to 
close a cavernous deficit, Mr. Williams said, but the root of 
California's woes is its reliance on taxing the wealthy. /


http://online.wsj.com/articles/ 
http://online.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704604704576220491592684626/


/Libertarian Party on Tax Reform:/
//
//Government should not incur debt, which burdens future generations 
without their consent. We support the passage of a “Balanced Budget 
Amendment” to the US Constitution, provided that the budget is balanced 
exclusively by cutting expenditures, not raising taxes.//

//
/http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Libertarian_Party_Tax_Reform.htm

/The kid-glove treatment of corporate tax offenders by both parties is 
exhibit A in America's shift from a functioning democracy to a nascent 
oligarchy./


http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-biggest-tax-scam-ever 
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-biggest-tax-scam-ever-20140827?page=4







---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

On 11/23/2014 1:01 PM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote:




The current situation is shameful.



/Agreed, but the answer is not//in continuing the current tax
structure. I am opposed to unfair income taxation. A better idea
might be a tax on luxury goods. One of the reason businesses are
leaving California and the U.S. is because of unfair corporate
taxation./



It is lying with statistics,



/The chart was compiled in 2011 by President Obama's Congressional
Budget Office (CBO) - it's a non-partisan analysis. It proves that
the rich pay almost all of the income tax in the U.S. Do the math.//
//
//https://www.cbo.gov//


/http://www.aei.org/publication/new-cbo-study-shows-rich-dont-just-pay-fair-share-pay-almost-everybodys-share//



based on an outmoded tax structure - Let the ultra-wealthy give
something back, besides the minimum. The only reason that chart
is trotted out, is to quiet those who know they are being
screwed, and to appease the very rich.



/So, it's an Obama government conspiracy to quiet those who
don't pay any income tax? You're not even making any sense today,
Jim.//

The federal government’s most intrusive and potentially punitive
institution, the IRS, unquestionably worked for Barack Obama’s
reelection by suppressing activities by conservative groups.//
//
//http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-will//

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-will-in-wisconsin-done-in-by-john-doe/2014/10/24/b30ee2ec-5ad8-11e4-b812-38518ae74c67_story.html


How is someone worth a billion dollars, going to miss a hundred
million or so?


/A few million here and a few million there and pretty soon you're
talking real money. But, seriously it's not about the money - it's
all about the jobs./


The ultra rich use a disproportionate share of the common, and
they should pay their fair share, without any tax breaks.


/Not sure how you figure rich people paying 90% of all the U.S.
income tax is paying their fair share. It sounds more like the
rich are the ones being screwed. The only fair income tax would be
a flat tax.

We are all supposed to be equal under the law, not prejudiced
against those that have more. Without the opportunity to be rich
people, everyone would be poor. Go figure./


If they did that, and corporations chipped in their fair share,
that would be good enough for me.


/It's not good enough for me until they reform the tax code and
eliminate the IRS and implement a flat tax. A true flat rate tax
is a system of taxation where one tax rate is applied to all
income with no deductions.
//
//Flat taxes offer 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more

2014-11-23 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
enlightenment is achievable, by anyone, using the techniques of TM and the TM 
Sidhis. 

This is a delusion - no one has ever become enlightened doing TM - ever, in the 
nearly 60 years TM has existed. No one. The anger and vituperation you exhibit 
in your writings are indicative of your lack of enlightenment as defined by 
Marshy himself. I am not saying enlightenment can't occur in someone practicing 
TM, but much more prevalent are the 90% of TM initiates who quit TM in the 
first year, more, much more prevalent are the scores of people left who do TM 
and have flat to no experiences and those who have so-called good experiences 
yet remain ignorance and those few who have fabulous experiences that always 
come to an end with time and those who go nuts or kill themselves or become 
basket cases through TM's negative side effects, called unstressing.

  From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 10:00 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
   
    If I boil this down, there is a familiar, and tiresome, challenge here - Is 
Jim's enlightenment real? Specifically his reports of 24/7 silence? Can the two 
even be equated? 
Here is my esteemed answer: Who cares? I don't. I've written volumes about my 
experience, far more than the snippet below. Knock yourself out dude, trying to 
prove my enlightenment, one way or the other. 
My point has always been that enlightenment is achievable, by anyone, using the 
techniques of TM and the TM Sidhis. If I can do it, anyone can. Enlightenment 
is a natural state of consciousness.
That's the point. Now, stay on point - 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

This is in regard to the faux enlightenment call that Barry makes in regard to 
Jim. Now I do not know what Barry experiences, or what Jim experiences, but 
Barry always seems to me more in control of what he says than Jim. At any rate 
the exchanges between these two would not probably pass muster as a discussion 
that had anything to do with enlightenment, but Barry is not claiming that this 
is what it is about, while Jim seems to be promoting the exchange as a 
demonstration of enlightenment (Jim) versus ignorance (Barry).
Jim said the following (emphasis in the original):


Enlightenment is simply defined as life, accompanied by eternal and deep 
silence, Being, during any state of consciousness. End of story. There are no 
automatic attributes beyond that, as the universe takes care of the rest. 
Anyone can gain enlightenment, and with that, their individuality will always 
express enlightenment. To try for some sort of personal algorithm beyond that, 
is a fool's errand; better to focus on your own path, than try to come up with 
any comprehensive list of personal attributes. Silence in activity, always. 
Period.

In the following the first four paragraphs are an edited down version of an 
essay by a Vedantist. The rather short attention span of most of the readers on 
FFL is the reason for the edits.
'Many teachers promote one of the most famous myths, that silence is somehow 
the ultimate teaching. While understanding the nature of the self in silence 
apparently finishes seeking for a few individuals, silence is certainly not 
superior to the skillful use of words in bringing about enlightenment. This is 
so because silence is in harmony, not in conflict, with self ignorance, as it 
is with everything.' 
'One can sit in silence without instruction for lifetimes and never realize 
that one is the silence. Knowledge, however, which is a legitimate means of 
knowledge, destroys self ignorance like light destroys darkness. Additionally 
no experience, including the experience of silence, can change thinking 
patterns.' 
'An experience of non-duality may temporarily suspend thought or increase one's 
resolve to see oneself as limitless awareness, but the notion that the I is 
limited, inadequate, incomplete and separate is hard wired. It is only by 
diligent practice of the knowledge I am limitless, ordinary awareness and not 
this body-mind that the mind's understanding of reality gets in line with the 
nature of the self.' 
'Why are binding desires such a major problem for anyone seeking enlightenment? 
Because they disturb the mind to such a degree that contact with the self as it 
reflects in the mind is broken, making self inquiry impossible. It is 
contemplation on the reflection of the self in the mind that allows the 
intellect to investigate the self in line with the teachings of self inquiry 
and gain the knowledge I am the self.
Some notes here: Anyone who happens to be a Buddhist needs to substitute 
another word for self in the above discussion, as the central feature of 
Buddhism is there is no self, meaning the individual self, person, that people 
think they are. Whereas in the above discussion, self refers to 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more

2014-11-23 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Anartaxius is a coward, and cowards like bullies, like Barry. That is all it 
is.
Statements like this pretty much prove that you are still unenlightened in your 
pervasive silence.

  From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 10:06 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
   
    Anartaxius is a coward, and cowards like bullies, like Barry. That is all 
it is.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

Here's another pertinent point, and I'm sorry if this doesn't address whatever 
you've written below.
And these are almost exact quotes.
From anartaxius:
Barry likes to push people's buttons to see what kind of reaction he can get
And from sal:
Barry likes a good tease
Evidently the manner in which Barry pushes people's buttons, or likes a good 
tease is acceptable to you.  I think it might indicate something a little out 
of whack, and I'd just bet, that if Barry consulted his psychiatrist friend who 
made the NPD diagnosis on Robin about what it might indicate about a person who 
engages continually in a a good tease, or pushing people's buttons, the 
conclusion may not be too favorable.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

This is in regard to the faux enlightenment call that Barry makes in regard to 
Jim. Now I do not know what Barry experiences, or what Jim experiences, but 
Barry always seems to me more in control of what he says than Jim. At any rate 
the exchanges between these two would not probably pass muster as a discussion 
that had anything to do with enlightenment, but Barry is not claiming that this 
is what it is about, while Jim seems to be promoting the exchange as a 
demonstration of enlightenment (Jim) versus ignorance (Barry).
Jim said the following (emphasis in the original):



Enlightenment is simply defined as life, accompanied by eternal and deep 
silence, Being, during any state of consciousness. End of story. There are no 
automatic attributes beyond that, as the universe takes care of the rest. 
Anyone can gain enlightenment, and with that, their individuality will always 
express enlightenment. To try for some sort of personal algorithm beyond that, 
is a fool's errand; better to focus on your own path, than try to come up with 
any comprehensive list of personal attributes. Silence in activity, always. 
Period.

In the following the first four paragraphs are an edited down version of an 
essay by a Vedantist. The rather short attention span of most of the readers on 
FFL is the reason for the edits.
'Many teachers promote one of the most famous myths, that silence is somehow 
the ultimate teaching. While understanding the nature of the self in silence 
apparently finishes seeking for a few individuals, silence is certainly not 
superior to the skillful use of words in bringing about enlightenment. This is 
so because silence is in harmony, not in conflict, with self ignorance, as it 
is with everything.' 
'One can sit in silence without instruction for lifetimes and never realize 
that one is the silence. Knowledge, however, which is a legitimate means of 
knowledge, destroys self ignorance like light destroys darkness. Additionally 
no experience, including the experience of silence, can change thinking 
patterns.' 
'An experience of non-duality may temporarily suspend thought or increase one's 
resolve to see oneself as limitless awareness, but the notion that the I is 
limited, inadequate, incomplete and separate is hard wired. It is only by 
diligent practice of the knowledge I am limitless, ordinary awareness and not 
this body-mind that the mind's understanding of reality gets in line with the 
nature of the self.' 
'Why are binding desires such a major problem for anyone seeking enlightenment? 
Because they disturb the mind to such a degree that contact with the self as it 
reflects in the mind is broken, making self inquiry impossible. It is 
contemplation on the reflection of the self in the mind that allows the 
intellect to investigate the self in line with the teachings of self inquiry 
and gain the knowledge I am the self.
Some notes here: Anyone who happens to be a Buddhist needs to substitute 
another word for self in the above discussion, as the central feature of 
Buddhism is there is no self, meaning the individual self, person, that people 
think they are. Whereas in the above discussion, self refers to unbounded 
awareness. Now in Maharishi's schema, transcendental consciousness cannot count 
as unbounded awareness because in TC you have no thought and the concept 
'unbounded awareness' cannot be formulated, the concept is formulated once back 
in ordinary waking as a description of that state as it is remembered and 
compared to waking. 
Cosmic consciousness, also in Maharishi's scheme, is silence that accompanies 
activity, but it is walled off from 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more

2014-11-23 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ann, at least took the time to write more than a couple of one liners. I do 
indeed think Barry makes up stuff to meet his own agenda. Don't we all. Jim 
makes up all sorts of stuff too. I make up stuff. Most of what others write 
about Barry, including me is stuff they make up. Our minds are good a 
fabricating shit. It is a necessary skill in order for it to attempt to figure 
out the world. I do not see that Jim, for example, is making up less than 
Barry.  

 One of the primary ways to go after someone's beliefs is to be a contrarian, 
to deliberately state you think the opposite of what the other guy or gal 
thinks, even if you do not really believe that. Now this is objectionable to 
some. I do not object to Barry because I don't see him and other people really 
as persons, they are objects in my field of experience. On FFL, everyone is a 
text object in my field of experience. My body is an object in my field of 
experience. Now calling everyone, you even, as an object does not mean I, in 
person, will interact with you as if you were an inanimate object. I can hold 
conversations, more or less. I tend not to like small talk. 
 

 People here mostly talk about how other people behave, which I find boring. 
There are few substantive conversations. Curtis is good for a substantive 
argument. Barry less so, he does not seem to have a lot of patience, so if you 
want to communicate with Barry, you have to be succinct, not like me, but one 
or two line retorts like Jim fires off are mindless, they usually show no deep 
thought. 
 

 People on the Internet are not necessarily the same as they are in person. 
Distance and anonymity, the lack of physical contact allows certain darker 
sides of our personalities shine. Most of what I think of others would probably 
seem very strange to those others. Jim says certain things about others, and I 
don't see it at all; Judy did this all the time. Barry does it too. The target 
of such comments almost invariable say that is not what they think. So the real 
question, as I see it, is why do we think what we think is true, and so little 
of what others say they think, especially about us, we think is false? This 
mismatch of reality among we human beings is rampant. One needs a certain 
flexibility to deal with it without going nuts.
 

 There is a woman here with me; we have very divergent views on many things, 
often including the nature of enlightenment, but we get along pretty well and 
have for some time. I make up stuff all the time to puncture her belief system, 
she calls me a contrarian, but the trick is to make her laugh, to see the 
absurdity of a position. I doubt very much Barry is as serious about what he 
says as most people on this forum take things. he has been beaten around by the 
spiritual con as much as any here, but unlike you, Jim, and others, I think he 
understands the spiritual con better than most. Barry does repeat many themes 
many many times. For all I know he could be a computer. There have been 
experiments on the Internet where a computer program posts to social forums and 
people think it is a real person. I tend to like people who have good 
intellects rather than emotional responses. These tend to be people who have 
much more slack in their belief systems, are willing to consider themselves 
idiots at times, and to consider the status quo, or the prevailing peer 
paradigm as potentially bonkers.
 

 You seem much more a people person than I am. Also, I like much smaller 
mammals than you do, ones that can't kill you, and which require low 
maintenance.
 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 This is a non starter Xeno for one simple and real reason: bawee never speaks 
to what people actually believe - he simply makes stuff up to fit his own 
agenda. Consequently you have taken all this time to write a small essay and it 
is groundless because your first premise is out to lunch possibly, and most 
likely, as a result  of the fact that you simply don't read bawee's post 
carefully enough to have figured this small factoid out. Xeno, 99% of what 
bawee claims people believe is not what they believe at all. When I and others 
object to his never-ending tirades saying the same thing over and over and over 
again it is not because he is attacking our beliefs, it is because he makes up 
stuff about what he thinks various people actually believe and it is all BS to 
suit his self-centered agenda. I object to the person bawee, not to any 
'attacks on my beliefs'. He has no interest in what anyone really thinks, he 
simply gets off on tooting his horn as the 'independent thinker' who isn't 
subject (in his own fantasy world) to any dogma or run-of-the-mill paradigms. 
You certainly don't 'get' him at all Xeno. There is only one thing to know here 
- bawee is all about bawee. He doesn't give a crap about anyone else; his 
advice, his opinion doesn't seek to enlighten anyone or to encourage dialogue 
it 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Brain-tenna? Unlock your car, by touching your head

2014-11-23 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
California is in pretty good shape fiscally. This is a specious argument, about 
only taxing the rich here. Real estate costs a small fortune in California, and 
*everybody* pays a mint in property taxes. It adds up.  

 Contrary to what you say, taxing the rich is not complicated, because their 
wealth doesn't fluctuate during economic ebbs and flows. In fact, the wealth of 
the rich always goes up, unlike yours and mine. They can definitely afford to 
throw more into the coffers. 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

 On 11/23/2014 5:58 PM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote:
 
 
 Corporations DO NOT pay their fair share - It is supposed to be 35 to 40%, but 
several pay NO taxes at all. They can go incorporate in Liberia, for all I care 
- Greedy, unpatriotic bastards. I like the idea of a flat tax, but will settle 
for the letter of the law.
 

 PS There is exactly ONE political party in the USA - Quit getting played for a 
chump.




 
 It looks like we are in some agreement. Both political parties are not working 
in our interest. Bhairitu's idea of a third party makes a lot of sense. In the 
next presidential election I may vote independent. It's easy to paint taxation 
with a large brush and to combine notions of individual earned income tax with 
corporate taxation and the idea of taxing the rich. It's complicated.
 
 The problem with taxing the rich is that when the economy is good politicians 
love it, but when the economy is poor, they hate it - the instability is not a 
good thing. In California what is needed is a flat tax rate to help stabilize 
state revenues, according to U.S. Rep Tom McClintock (R., CA).
 
 The working class may be taking a beating from spending cuts used to close a 
cavernous deficit, Mr. Williams said, but the root of California's woes is its 
reliance on taxing the wealthy. 
 
 http://online.wsj.com/articles/ 
http://online.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704604704576220491592684626
 
 Libertarian Party on Tax Reform:
 
 Government should not incur debt, which burdens future generations without 
their consent. We support the passage of a “Balanced Budget Amendment” to the 
US Constitution, provided that the budget is balanced exclusively by cutting 
expenditures, not raising taxes.
 
 http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Libertarian_Party_Tax_Reform.htm 
http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Libertarian_Party_Tax_Reform.htm 
 
 The kid-glove treatment of corporate tax offenders by both parties is exhibit 
A in America's shift from a functioning democracy to a nascent oligarchy.
 
 http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-biggest-tax-scam-ever 
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-biggest-tax-scam-ever-20140827?page=4
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote :
 
 On 11/23/2014 1:01 PM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote:
 
 
   The current situation is shameful.

 
 Agreed, but the answer is not in continuing the current tax structure. I am 
opposed to unfair income taxation. A better idea might be a tax on luxury 
goods. One of the reason businesses are leaving California and the U.S. is 
because of unfair corporate taxation.
  
 It is lying with statistics,



 
 The chart was compiled in 2011 by President Obama's Congressional Budget 
Office (CBO) - it's a non-partisan analysis. It proves that the rich pay almost 
all of the income tax in the U.S. Do the math.
 
 https://www.cbo.gov/ https://www.cbo.gov/
 
 
http://www.aei.org/publication/new-cbo-study-shows-rich-dont-just-pay-fair-share-pay-almost-everybodys-share/
 
http://www.aei.org/publication/new-cbo-study-shows-rich-dont-just-pay-fair-share-pay-almost-everybodys-share/
 
 based on an outmoded tax structure - Let the ultra-wealthy give something 
back, besides the minimum. The only reason that chart is trotted out, is to 
quiet those who know they are being screwed, and to appease the very rich. 




 
 So, it's an Obama government conspiracy to quiet those who don't pay any 
income tax? You're not even making any sense today, Jim. 
 
 The federal government’s most intrusive and potentially punitive institution, 
the IRS, unquestionably worked for Barack Obama’s reelection by suppressing 
activities by conservative groups.
 
 http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-will/ 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-will-in-wisconsin-done-in-by-john-doe/2014/10/24/b30ee2ec-5ad8-11e4-b812-38518ae74c67_story.html
 
 How is someone worth a billion dollars, going to miss a hundred million or so?



 
 A few million here and a few million there and pretty soon you're talking real 
money. But, seriously it's not about the money - it's all about the jobs.
 
 The ultra rich use a disproportionate share of the common, and they should pay 
their fair share, without any tax breaks.



 
 Not sure how you figure rich people paying 90% of all the U.S. income tax is 
paying their fair share. It sounds more like 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more

2014-11-23 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
What doubt? :-)
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 Anartaxius is a coward, and cowards like bullies, like Barry. That is all it 
is.
 

 Maybe he just needs better reading glasses. I'll give him the benefit of the 
doubt for the moment.
 


 




 










[FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more

2014-11-23 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Damn, nothing like bring the conversation down to earth. 

 I find it both readable and interesting.
 

 I think it is one thing to be the devils advocate, which is a means to have 
someone defend, or clarify their position.  
 

 It is quite another thing to engage in cavil, or at least misrepresentations 
for the purposes of getting a rise out of people, or really, to just elevate 
one's point of view.
 

 You obviously see the dynamics here differently, which is fine, but at least 
you've staked out your position, and I respect you for that.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 Ann, at least took the time to write more than a couple of one liners. I do 
indeed think Barry makes up stuff to meet his own agenda. Don't we all. Jim 
makes up all sorts of stuff too. I make up stuff. Most of what others write 
about Barry, including me is stuff they make up. Our minds are good a 
fabricating shit. It is a necessary skill in order for it to attempt to figure 
out the world. I do not see that Jim, for example, is making up less than 
Barry.  

 One of the primary ways to go after someone's beliefs is to be a contrarian, 
to deliberately state you think the opposite of what the other guy or gal 
thinks, even if you do not really believe that. Now this is objectionable to 
some. I do not object to Barry because I don't see him and other people really 
as persons, they are objects in my field of experience. On FFL, everyone is a 
text object in my field of experience. My body is an object in my field of 
experience. Now calling everyone, you even, as an object does not mean I, in 
person, will interact with you as if you were an inanimate object. I can hold 
conversations, more or less. I tend not to like small talk. 
 

 People here mostly talk about how other people behave, which I find boring. 
There are few substantive conversations. Curtis is good for a substantive 
argument. Barry less so, he does not seem to have a lot of patience, so if you 
want to communicate with Barry, you have to be succinct, not like me, but one 
or two line retorts like Jim fires off are mindless, they usually show no deep 
thought. 
 

 People on the Internet are not necessarily the same as they are in person. 
Distance and anonymity, the lack of physical contact allows certain darker 
sides of our personalities shine. Most of what I think of others would probably 
seem very strange to those others. Jim says certain things about others, and I 
don't see it at all; Judy did this all the time. Barry does it too. The target 
of such comments almost invariable say that is not what they think. So the real 
question, as I see it, is why do we think what we think is true, and so little 
of what others say they think, especially about us, we think is false? This 
mismatch of reality among we human beings is rampant. One needs a certain 
flexibility to deal with it without going nuts.
 

 There is a woman here with me; we have very divergent views on many things, 
often including the nature of enlightenment, but we get along pretty well and 
have for some time. I make up stuff all the time to puncture her belief system, 
she calls me a contrarian, but the trick is to make her laugh, to see the 
absurdity of a position. I doubt very much Barry is as serious about what he 
says as most people on this forum take things. he has been beaten around by the 
spiritual con as much as any here, but unlike you, Jim, and others, I think he 
understands the spiritual con better than most. Barry does repeat many themes 
many many times. For all I know he could be a computer. There have been 
experiments on the Internet where a computer program posts to social forums and 
people think it is a real person. I tend to like people who have good 
intellects rather than emotional responses. These tend to be people who have 
much more slack in their belief systems, are willing to consider themselves 
idiots at times, and to consider the status quo, or the prevailing peer 
paradigm as potentially bonkers.
 

 You seem much more a people person than I am. Also, I like much smaller 
mammals than you do, ones that can't kill you, and which require low 
maintenance.
 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 This is a non starter Xeno for one simple and real reason: bawee never speaks 
to what people actually believe - he simply makes stuff up to fit his own 
agenda. Consequently you have taken all this time to write a small essay and it 
is groundless because your first premise is out to lunch possibly, and most 
likely, as a result  of the fact that you simply don't read bawee's post 
carefully enough to have figured this small factoid out. Xeno, 99% of what 
bawee claims people believe is not what they believe at all. When I and others 
object to his never-ending tirades saying the same thing over and over and over 
again it is not because he is attacking our beliefs, it is because he makes up 
stuff 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more

2014-11-23 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This is a delusion - no one has ever become enlightened doing TM - ever, in the 
nearly 60 years TM has existed.  

 I have, and am enlightened. Haven't you been reading what I write??? lol
 

 Enlightenment doesn't happen overnight, as you expected it to. It takes a lot 
of work, a lot of time, and a person, through the integration of TM and 
activity, must get to know themselves, very well, on all levels, emotionally, 
mentally, and physically. 
 

 Only then will a person achieve enlightenment, all pervading pure awareness, 
and silence.
 

 If, on the other hand, they spend their time on wasteful pursuits, like 
envying, blaming and resenting others, as you do, it is a pity you started, for 
a halfway journey will only make you sensitive to your suffering, without 
having reached the goal.
 

 The regular practice, by anyone, of TM and the TMSP does lead to 
enlightenment, silence, Being. Get on with it.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 enlightenment is achievable, by anyone, using the techniques of TM and the TM 
Sidhis. 

 

 This is a delusion - no one has ever become enlightened doing TM - ever, in 
the nearly 60 years TM has existed. No one. The anger and vituperation you 
exhibit in your writings are indicative of your lack of enlightenment as 
defined by Marshy himself. I am not saying enlightenment can't occur in someone 
practicing TM, but much more prevalent are the 90% of TM initiates who quit TM 
in the first year, more, much more prevalent are the scores of people left who 
do TM and have flat to no experiences and those who have so-called good 
experiences yet remain ignorance and those few who have fabulous experiences 
that always come to an end with time and those who go nuts or kill themselves 
or become basket cases through TM's negative side effects, called unstressing.

 

 From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 10:00 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
 
 
   If I boil this down, there is a familiar, and tiresome, challenge here - Is 
Jim's enlightenment real? Specifically his reports of 24/7 silence? Can the two 
even be equated? 
 

 Here is my esteemed answer: Who cares? I don't. I've written volumes about my 
experience, far more than the snippet below. Knock yourself out dude, trying to 
prove my enlightenment, one way or the other. 
 

 My point has always been that enlightenment is achievable, by anyone, using 
the techniques of TM and the TM Sidhis. If I can do it, anyone can. 
Enlightenment is a natural state of consciousness.
 

 That's the point. Now, stay on point - 
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 This is in regard to the faux enlightenment call that Barry makes in regard to 
Jim. Now I do not know what Barry experiences, or what Jim experiences, but 
Barry always seems to me more in control of what he says than Jim. At any rate 
the exchanges between these two would not probably pass muster as a discussion 
that had anything to do with enlightenment, but Barry is not claiming that this 
is what it is about, while Jim seems to be promoting the exchange as a 
demonstration of enlightenment (Jim) versus ignorance (Barry).
 

 Jim said the following (emphasis in the original):
 





 Enlightenment is simply defined as life, accompanied by eternal and deep 
silence, Being, during any state of consciousness. End of story. There are no 
automatic attributes beyond that, as the universe takes care of the rest. 
Anyone can gain enlightenment, and with that, their individuality will always 
express enlightenment. To try for some sort of personal algorithm beyond that, 
is a fool's errand; better to focus on your own path, than try to come up with 
any comprehensive list of personal attributes. Silence in activity, always. 
Period.




 

 In the following the first four paragraphs are an edited down version of an 
essay by a Vedantist. The rather short attention span of most of the readers on 
FFL is the reason for the edits.
 

 'Many teachers promote one of the most famous myths, that silence is somehow 
the ultimate teaching. While understanding the nature of the self in silence 
apparently finishes seeking for a few individuals, silence is certainly not 
superior to the skillful use of words in bringing about enlightenment. This is 
so because silence is in harmony, not in conflict, with self ignorance, as it 
is with everything.' 
 

 'One can sit in silence without instruction for lifetimes and never realize 
that one is the silence. Knowledge, however, which is a legitimate means of 
knowledge, destroys self ignorance like light destroys darkness. Additionally 
no experience, including the experience of silence, can change thinking 
patterns.' 
 

 'An experience of non-duality may temporarily suspend thought or increase 
one's resolve to see oneself 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more

2014-11-23 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Steve, perhaps anartaxius has staked out a brilliant position with regard to 
waking state. You know, the one where we have static beliefs, and play a stupid 
game of duality. So what? Enlightenment is BY ITS VERY NATURE, non-attachment, 
and so these types of carefully crafted scenarios, designed to challenge one 
side of a duality, don't mean jack to an enlightened person.  

 An enlightened person can obviously express an idea, in the moment, but to try 
to hold onto a belief, is impossible. The nervous system no longer supports it. 
Beliefs are used as crutches, and an enlightened person doesn't need crutches. 
It is a different way of functioning than before. Less thought - more silence, 
and more direct action. The integration of the subjective and the objective; 
always a proponent of Reality. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 Damn, nothing like bring the conversation down to earth. 

 I find it both readable and interesting.
 

 I think it is one thing to be the devils advocate, which is a means to have 
someone defend, or clarify their position.  
 

 It is quite another thing to engage in cavil, or at least misrepresentations 
for the purposes of getting a rise out of people, or really, to just elevate 
one's point of view.
 

 You obviously see the dynamics here differently, which is fine, but at least 
you've staked out your position, and I respect you for that.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 Ann, at least took the time to write more than a couple of one liners. I do 
indeed think Barry makes up stuff to meet his own agenda. Don't we all. Jim 
makes up all sorts of stuff too. I make up stuff. Most of what others write 
about Barry, including me is stuff they make up. Our minds are good a 
fabricating shit. It is a necessary skill in order for it to attempt to figure 
out the world. I do not see that Jim, for example, is making up less than 
Barry.  

 One of the primary ways to go after someone's beliefs is to be a contrarian, 
to deliberately state you think the opposite of what the other guy or gal 
thinks, even if you do not really believe that. Now this is objectionable to 
some. I do not object to Barry because I don't see him and other people really 
as persons, they are objects in my field of experience. On FFL, everyone is a 
text object in my field of experience. My body is an object in my field of 
experience. Now calling everyone, you even, as an object does not mean I, in 
person, will interact with you as if you were an inanimate object. I can hold 
conversations, more or less. I tend not to like small talk. 
 

 People here mostly talk about how other people behave, which I find boring. 
There are few substantive conversations. Curtis is good for a substantive 
argument. Barry less so, he does not seem to have a lot of patience, so if you 
want to communicate with Barry, you have to be succinct, not like me, but one 
or two line retorts like Jim fires off are mindless, they usually show no deep 
thought. 
 

 People on the Internet are not necessarily the same as they are in person. 
Distance and anonymity, the lack of physical contact allows certain darker 
sides of our personalities shine. Most of what I think of others would probably 
seem very strange to those others. Jim says certain things about others, and I 
don't see it at all; Judy did this all the time. Barry does it too. The target 
of such comments almost invariable say that is not what they think. So the real 
question, as I see it, is why do we think what we think is true, and so little 
of what others say they think, especially about us, we think is false? This 
mismatch of reality among we human beings is rampant. One needs a certain 
flexibility to deal with it without going nuts.
 

 There is a woman here with me; we have very divergent views on many things, 
often including the nature of enlightenment, but we get along pretty well and 
have for some time. I make up stuff all the time to puncture her belief system, 
she calls me a contrarian, but the trick is to make her laugh, to see the 
absurdity of a position. I doubt very much Barry is as serious about what he 
says as most people on this forum take things. he has been beaten around by the 
spiritual con as much as any here, but unlike you, Jim, and others, I think he 
understands the spiritual con better than most. Barry does repeat many themes 
many many times. For all I know he could be a computer. There have been 
experiments on the Internet where a computer program posts to social forums and 
people think it is a real person. I tend to like people who have good 
intellects rather than emotional responses. These tend to be people who have 
much more slack in their belief systems, are willing to consider themselves 
idiots at times, and to consider the status quo, or the prevailing peer 
paradigm as potentially bonkers.
 

 You seem much more a people person than I am. Also, I like much 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more

2014-11-23 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Jim, I like that, what you have written below. 

 I commend taxius on writing something that I find interesting, and concrete.
 

 Maybe it is just a waking state perspective, but it is at least something I 
can understand.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 Steve, perhaps anartaxius has staked out a brilliant position with regard to 
waking state. You know, the one where we have static beliefs, and play a stupid 
game of duality. So what? Enlightenment is BY ITS VERY NATURE, non-attachment, 
and so these types of carefully crafted scenarios, designed to challenge one 
side of a duality, don't mean jack to an enlightened person.  

 An enlightened person can obviously express an idea, in the moment, but to try 
to hold onto a belief, is impossible. The nervous system no longer supports it. 
Beliefs are used as crutches, and an enlightened person doesn't need crutches. 
It is a different way of functioning than before. Less thought - more silence, 
and more direct action. The integration of the subjective and the objective; 
always a proponent of Reality. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 Damn, nothing like bring the conversation down to earth. 

 I find it both readable and interesting.
 

 I think it is one thing to be the devils advocate, which is a means to have 
someone defend, or clarify their position.  
 

 It is quite another thing to engage in cavil, or at least misrepresentations 
for the purposes of getting a rise out of people, or really, to just elevate 
one's point of view.
 

 You obviously see the dynamics here differently, which is fine, but at least 
you've staked out your position, and I respect you for that.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 Ann, at least took the time to write more than a couple of one liners. I do 
indeed think Barry makes up stuff to meet his own agenda. Don't we all. Jim 
makes up all sorts of stuff too. I make up stuff. Most of what others write 
about Barry, including me is stuff they make up. Our minds are good a 
fabricating shit. It is a necessary skill in order for it to attempt to figure 
out the world. I do not see that Jim, for example, is making up less than 
Barry.  

 One of the primary ways to go after someone's beliefs is to be a contrarian, 
to deliberately state you think the opposite of what the other guy or gal 
thinks, even if you do not really believe that. Now this is objectionable to 
some. I do not object to Barry because I don't see him and other people really 
as persons, they are objects in my field of experience. On FFL, everyone is a 
text object in my field of experience. My body is an object in my field of 
experience. Now calling everyone, you even, as an object does not mean I, in 
person, will interact with you as if you were an inanimate object. I can hold 
conversations, more or less. I tend not to like small talk. 
 

 People here mostly talk about how other people behave, which I find boring. 
There are few substantive conversations. Curtis is good for a substantive 
argument. Barry less so, he does not seem to have a lot of patience, so if you 
want to communicate with Barry, you have to be succinct, not like me, but one 
or two line retorts like Jim fires off are mindless, they usually show no deep 
thought. 
 

 People on the Internet are not necessarily the same as they are in person. 
Distance and anonymity, the lack of physical contact allows certain darker 
sides of our personalities shine. Most of what I think of others would probably 
seem very strange to those others. Jim says certain things about others, and I 
don't see it at all; Judy did this all the time. Barry does it too. The target 
of such comments almost invariable say that is not what they think. So the real 
question, as I see it, is why do we think what we think is true, and so little 
of what others say they think, especially about us, we think is false? This 
mismatch of reality among we human beings is rampant. One needs a certain 
flexibility to deal with it without going nuts.
 

 There is a woman here with me; we have very divergent views on many things, 
often including the nature of enlightenment, but we get along pretty well and 
have for some time. I make up stuff all the time to puncture her belief system, 
she calls me a contrarian, but the trick is to make her laugh, to see the 
absurdity of a position. I doubt very much Barry is as serious about what he 
says as most people on this forum take things. he has been beaten around by the 
spiritual con as much as any here, but unlike you, Jim, and others, I think he 
understands the spiritual con better than most. Barry does repeat many themes 
many many times. For all I know he could be a computer. There have been 
experiments on the Internet where a computer program posts to social forums and 
people think it is a real person. I tend to like people who have good 
intellects rather than 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more

2014-11-23 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hey Michael,  

 Your statements of absolute certainty always give me a chuckle.
 

 Wishing you an early, pleasant Thanksgiving, in case I don't get a chance to 
do so later. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 enlightenment is achievable, by anyone, using the techniques of TM and the TM 
Sidhis. 

 

 This is a delusion - no one has ever become enlightened doing TM - ever, in 
the nearly 60 years TM has existed. No one. The anger and vituperation you 
exhibit in your writings are indicative of your lack of enlightenment as 
defined by Marshy himself. I am not saying enlightenment can't occur in someone 
practicing TM, but much more prevalent are the 90% of TM initiates who quit TM 
in the first year, more, much more prevalent are the scores of people left who 
do TM and have flat to no experiences and those who have so-called good 
experiences yet remain ignorance and those few who have fabulous experiences 
that always come to an end with time and those who go nuts or kill themselves 
or become basket cases through TM's negative side effects, called unstressing.

 

 From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 10:00 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
 
 
   If I boil this down, there is a familiar, and tiresome, challenge here - Is 
Jim's enlightenment real? Specifically his reports of 24/7 silence? Can the two 
even be equated? 
 

 Here is my esteemed answer: Who cares? I don't. I've written volumes about my 
experience, far more than the snippet below. Knock yourself out dude, trying to 
prove my enlightenment, one way or the other. 
 

 My point has always been that enlightenment is achievable, by anyone, using 
the techniques of TM and the TM Sidhis. If I can do it, anyone can. 
Enlightenment is a natural state of consciousness.
 

 That's the point. Now, stay on point - 
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 This is in regard to the faux enlightenment call that Barry makes in regard to 
Jim. Now I do not know what Barry experiences, or what Jim experiences, but 
Barry always seems to me more in control of what he says than Jim. At any rate 
the exchanges between these two would not probably pass muster as a discussion 
that had anything to do with enlightenment, but Barry is not claiming that this 
is what it is about, while Jim seems to be promoting the exchange as a 
demonstration of enlightenment (Jim) versus ignorance (Barry).
 

 Jim said the following (emphasis in the original):
 





 Enlightenment is simply defined as life, accompanied by eternal and deep 
silence, Being, during any state of consciousness. End of story. There are no 
automatic attributes beyond that, as the universe takes care of the rest. 
Anyone can gain enlightenment, and with that, their individuality will always 
express enlightenment. To try for some sort of personal algorithm beyond that, 
is a fool's errand; better to focus on your own path, than try to come up with 
any comprehensive list of personal attributes. Silence in activity, always. 
Period.




 

 In the following the first four paragraphs are an edited down version of an 
essay by a Vedantist. The rather short attention span of most of the readers on 
FFL is the reason for the edits.
 

 'Many teachers promote one of the most famous myths, that silence is somehow 
the ultimate teaching. While understanding the nature of the self in silence 
apparently finishes seeking for a few individuals, silence is certainly not 
superior to the skillful use of words in bringing about enlightenment. This is 
so because silence is in harmony, not in conflict, with self ignorance, as it 
is with everything.' 
 

 'One can sit in silence without instruction for lifetimes and never realize 
that one is the silence. Knowledge, however, which is a legitimate means of 
knowledge, destroys self ignorance like light destroys darkness. Additionally 
no experience, including the experience of silence, can change thinking 
patterns.' 
 

 'An experience of non-duality may temporarily suspend thought or increase 
one's resolve to see oneself as limitless awareness, but the notion that the 
I is limited, inadequate, incomplete and separate is hard wired. It is only 
by diligent practice of the knowledge I am limitless, ordinary awareness and 
not this body-mind that the mind's understanding of reality gets in line with 
the nature of the self.' 
 

 'Why are binding desires such a major problem for anyone seeking 
enlightenment? Because they disturb the mind to such a degree that contact with 
the self as it reflects in the mind is broken, making self inquiry impossible. 
It is contemplation on the reflection of the self in the mind that allows the 
intellect to investigate the self in line with the teachings of self inquiry 
and gain the knowledge I am the self.
 

 Some 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more

2014-11-23 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 Ann, at least took the time to write more than a couple of one liners. I do 
indeed think Barry makes up stuff to meet his own agenda. Don't we all. Jim 
makes up all sorts of stuff too. I make up stuff. Most of what others write 
about Barry, including me is stuff they make up. Our minds are good a 
fabricating shit. It is a necessary skill in order for it to attempt to figure 
out the world. I do not see that Jim, for example, is making up less than 
Barry. 
 

 I don't make stuff up here Xeno. What you see here is exactly what you would 
see if you saw me standing in a room talking to you. I have absolutely no 
reason to pretend I am someone else. I do not understand the need of others to 
use the internet as a way to become another kind of person. Does this mean they 
can't be all of who they are when standing next to a breathing person? And if 
so why would that be? (Rhetorical questions.)
 

 One of the primary ways to go after someone's beliefs is to be a contrarian, 
to deliberately state you think the opposite of what the other guy or gal 
thinks, even if you do not really believe that. Now this is objectionable to 
some. I do not object to Barry because I don't see him and other people really 
as persons, they are objects in my field of experience. On FFL, everyone is a 
text object in my field of experience. My body is an object in my field of 
experience. Now calling everyone, you even, as an object does not mean I, in 
person, will interact with you as if you were an inanimate object. I can hold 
conversations, more or less. I tend not to like small talk. 
 

 You are so interesting, Xeno. I can't figure out what actually animates you. 
Maybe animate is the wrong word because it is as if you are robotic in some 
fundamental way although I don't mean this to insult you. I have no interest in 
insulting you so if it comes across like that then my apologies. But to say you 
don't see those at FFL as anything other than a text object seems to me like 
you are missing some essential sensory equipment. It is as if people are 
reduced to molecules and cells and basic components that don't include blood or 
feelings. It makes me think you are not equipped to grasp the really important 
things about human beings that could make your life richer. 
 

 People here mostly talk about how other people behave, which I find boring. 
There are few substantive conversations. Curtis is good for a substantive 
argument. Barry less so, he does not seem to have a lot of patience, so if you 
want to communicate with Barry, you have to be succinct, not like me, but one 
or two line retorts like Jim fires off are mindless, they usually show no deep 
thought. 
 

 Sometimes brevity takes lots more creativity than wordiness. Think poetry vs a 
novel. 
 

 People on the Internet are not necessarily the same as they are in person. 
Distance and anonymity, the lack of physical contact allows certain darker 
sides of our personalities shine. Most of what I think of others would probably 
seem very strange to those others. Jim says certain things about others, and I 
don't see it at all; Judy did this all the time. Barry does it too. The target 
of such comments almost invariable say that is not what they think. So the real 
question, as I see it, is why do we think what we think is true, and so little 
of what others say they think, especially about us, we think is false? This 
mismatch of reality among we human beings is rampant. One needs a certain 
flexibility to deal with it without going nuts.
 

 I don't mind being misunderstood but I will often object when someone begins 
to abuse me about what they think I believe or about who they think I am, 
especially if it is coming from a place of narrow mindedness and ill will. I 
will not be a punching bag for those with their own personal, unresolved issues 
and who wish to take their lack of self awareness and hit me over the head with 
it.
 

 There is a woman here with me; we have very divergent views on many things, 
often including the nature of enlightenment, but we get along pretty well and 
have for some time. I make up stuff all the time to puncture her belief system, 
she calls me a contrarian, but the trick is to make her laugh, to see the 
absurdity of a position. I doubt very much Barry is as serious about what he 
says as most people on this forum take things. he has been beaten around by the 
spiritual con as much as any here, but unlike you, Jim, and others, I think he 
understands the spiritual con better than most. Barry does repeat many themes 
many many times. For all I know he could be a computer. There have been 
experiments on the Internet where a computer program posts to social forums and 
people think it is a real person. I tend to like people who have good 
intellects rather than emotional responses. These tend to be people who have 
much more slack in their belief systems, are 

Re: [FairfieldLife] A new definition of Do less but accomplish more

2014-11-23 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Just to follow up on the experiment, a scan of FFL Neo (just the list of posts, 
plus the first few words indicating who the post is replying to and what it's 
about) seems to indicate that the four folks named below found it necessary to 
write 26 posts about me yesterday in the 19 hours since I posted this. 

Can you say obsession? I think you can...

  From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 12:05 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
   
     In the last 24 hours, I've read nothing posted by fleetwood_suckndick, 
willywanker, thundertwat, or sirbitchalot. I've just posted what I felt like 
posting, in about a dozen posts, most of which didn't mention them at all. 

Yet if I read the Post Count and scroll down the list of non-filtered posts on 
FFL Neo, it appears that between the four of them they've made 60 to 70 posts 
about me in that time. 
This might make me a troll in your eyes, but if so it also makes them the 
people being trolled, and it's pretty clear who's winning. Do less, accomplish 
more.
One wonders what would happen if I escalated to the next level of Maharishi's 
one-liner, Do nothing, accomplish everything. If I not only didn't read them 
but didn't even mention them, would they write more posts about me than ever?
Curious minds want to know...

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[FairfieldLife] All you need to know about the differences between US and Netherlands

2014-11-23 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Americans use drones to surveil people they don't like and kill them. The Dutch 
use drones to see things they wouldn't normally have been able to see, so they 
can enjoy them. 

Waiting 10 Months For The Perfect Drone Footage

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[FairfieldLife] Two intelligent time travel movies

2014-11-23 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Both Australian, both enjoyable for those who like to see time travel done 
well, meaning that every twist and turn seems to actually be possible, given 
physicists' speculations about time travel.
The first was called The Infinite Man and I saw it back during the Leiden 
Film Festival. Very clever and funny premise -- a nerd wants to create the 
perfect weekend away with his girlfriend, and it goes wrong. Obsessed, he 
invents a time machine so they can travel back in time and make it perfect this 
time. Suffice it to say that with every attempt the whole scenario gets worse, 
and he winds up creating the ultimate time-travel endless-loop clusterfuck.
The Infinite Man SXSW Trailer (2014) HD

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The second, Predestination, seems to have just been released on DVD and 
BluRay. It's another intellectual time travel movie, this time based on an 
old classic story by Robert Heinlein. A time travel cop played by Ethan Hawke 
tries to recruit a talented guy to help him track down the only time criminal 
who has so far escaped him. Again, very circular logic, with appropriate use of 
the song I'm My Own Grandpa playing on the jukebox of a saloon.  

Predestination International TRAILER 1 (2014) - Ethan Hawke Sci-Fi Thriller HD

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