[Felvtalk] 8 FELV kitties in NYC
A rescue friend in Queens NYC had a house fire recently putting her and a huge amount of rescue cats out of her home. She has found an apartment to stay in while the ins. has her home fixed but that will take months. She currently has 8 felv cats that are staying in the attic of a neighbor. The neighbor wants them out. She needs a place for them to go until her home is fixed. She would be able to provide some funds for caring for them (feeding, litter, etc.) Is there anyone on here that would be able to help out? I can get you more information if you message me back. I can set it up for you to meet her and the kitties. She really needs help. Thank you, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New needle-less vaccine for FeLV
The vet jet has been around for a while and I think is definitely safer than the old stand by needle. They had them at the clinic I interned at in 2008. I haven't seen a practice that didn't have one since. I would drive to another vet before going back to the needle. Tanya --- On Wed, 11/2/11, Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu wrote: From: Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New needle-less vaccine for FeLV To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, November 2, 2011, 12:50 PM This is the vaccine my C.J. just got in the past month. It's supposed to be about 99% effective according to the literature and much safer in regard to the chance of vaccine-related sarcoma. My understanding is that it's what vets who keep up with the cutting edge are using now. I don't know what you mean about buy it outright ... it requires a special tool called a VetJet to administer -- kind of shoots it through the skin at high velocity with a big pop. It looks like a cordless drill! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New needle-less vaccine for FeLV
It can only be given by clinics, the vet jet is very expensive so it wouldn't be something that you would want to purchase on your own. Tanya --- On Wed, 11/2/11, Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New needle-less vaccine for FeLV To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, November 2, 2011, 1:10 PM I meant to buy it to use ourselves. It sounds like the swine flu vaccine I got in 76?. They did it with a gun like that. Man was I stupid to get that vaccine! Well, young and stupid. I listened to the fear mongers(-: Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. On Nov 2, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu wrote: This is the vaccine my C.J. just got in the past month. It's supposed to be about 99% effective according to the literature and much safer in regard to the chance of vaccine-related sarcoma. My understanding is that it's what vets who keep up with the cutting edge are using now. I don't know what you mean about buy it outright ... it requires a special tool called a VetJet to administer -- kind of shoots it through the skin at high velocity with a big pop. It looks like a cordless drill! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] NYC ACC rescued cat felv+ and in need of home
Please read and go to this great girls link, if you know anyone who can give this girl a home please forward it on: New York NY - Jessica was relinquished to ACC by her colony caretaker because she wasn't eating well. She was one night away from death when she was pulled by a rescue group. It turned out she only needed some minor dental work, which has been done. After being rescued we learned that Jessica is both friendly and also FeLV+. She belongs in a home because she is sweet and loving and enjoys human companionship. As you can see, she is also a beautiful girl, mostly white with calico markings on her body and tail. She now eats like a champ, uses her litter box perfectly and wants nothing more than to hang out with you, rub against your legs, sit on your lap for petting. Jessica is about 1 - 2 years old and at this time has no symptoms of illness. However, she should be homed as an only cat, or in a household with another FeLV+ cat. The lifespan of FeLV+ cats varies greatly. In a stress-free environment, fed a good quality diet, Jessica is likely to have many healthy years ahead of her. http://www.bestfriends.org/theanimals/pdfs/cats/catfelv.pdf Please contact Bekah Wilcox on Facebook or email beka...@gmail.com if you can offer Jessica a home. http://www.facebook.com/games?ref=notifnotif_t=app_request#!/media/set/?set=a.10150346664139772.396008.691709771 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!
Edna, can I steal that line for my FB as well. lets see how far it travels around the rescue community! --- On Fri, 8/5/11, Joslin Potter joslinir...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Joslin Potter joslinir...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 7:01 PM i like that Edna, I'm so posting that to my FB! From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! I don't see that it is not kind and supportive list but the truth is the truth, people give up their pets at an alarming rate and for, sometimes, what amounts to really stupid reasons. They also leave them in abandoned, foreclosed homes to starve to death. Does this mean that we are not supportive and don't care? No, it means many of us are in rescue and our homes are usually filled to the brim with cats/dogs and sometimes we need to vent. Doesn't mean that we no longer want to support and help others, it means that our hearts are broken and as someone posted on their FB profile and I copied: My pets/fosters are not disposable. They may have imperfections, may eventually have health problems, and be a lot of work. But when I got them, I promised them a forever home. No matter what their faults are, they are good at something, and deserve to be loved and have a forever home. They are not only my pets/fosters, They are a part of my family. From: moonv...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:57:03 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! Wow, this used to be a really kind, supportive, positive list. It makes me sad to see that it doesn't seem to be any more. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
I am a licensed vet tech (though for the last year a stay at home Mom) and I have never heard of a live FeLV vaccine. Nor have I ever heard of it making a cat show positive on a test. FIV and FIP are the only ones I have ever heard of causing a false positive on a test. I will check with a few of my vet friends and see if they can give any more info. Tanya --- On Thu, 8/4/11, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, August 4, 2011, 4:45 PM Is this live vaccine new? I've never heard that a vaccination for FeLV will make a positive result, but I'm getting a killed virus vaccination for my cats. I'll let you know what my vet says. Never hurts to get a second opinion :) Thanks! - Original Message - From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question From what I've read they WILL test positive for FeLV after vaccination with a live vaccine. This happened at our shelter. I don't know how many days that lasts, but she would not have a false positive at this point. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Martha Walton marthawal...@gmail.com To: Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question Thanks everyone! My vet told me that Peaches would test positive because she's had the FeLV vaccination. I think I will call the vet that Peaches former owners took her to ask them to test Peaches. Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they say. On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.comwrote: It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate the cat instead of testing them. Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals. Apparently it costs too much - but I think the cost is worth saving other cats from getting exposed to FeLV. I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come out positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading. Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in case =^_^= On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I think I would definitely get Peaches tested. If all your cats are indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV. Only if there's a chance they could get it. But if you're not letting them out and you're not fostering other cats then there's no risk of exposure to the virus so no real need for a vaccination. If all your other cats have been tested and are negative also then Peaches wouldn't need the vaccination either. So as long as her combo test is negative, then you really don't need to worry about Nibbles. It's totally up to you though. Just my thoughts. Course if Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles up to speed. And I think he does need to do the series of two shots over again if you decide to get him current like Lynda said. Thanks for giving Peaches a home. And kick that other lady in the butt for kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby. Maureen sent from my ATT Smartphone by HTC - Reply message - From: Martha Walton marthawal...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant apartment. Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat. They took Peaches to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed. I don't know why the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without testing her first. They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife had a baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore. That's how Peaches came to live here. I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go ahead and give Nibbles vaccinations. I'll let you know what the vet says. Thanks for all your help!! It has been hard to get information about what to do. On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the first shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first for it to be effective. It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the vaccination against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV would. I would keep her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone and she has had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad
Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
Wow, that is really scary, I think I do remember you posting about this a while ago. Did the manufacturer ever give any info after the vaccines were sent back? Any explanation as to why the tests would be affected when the veterinary world is told they won't? Tanya --- On Thu, 8/4/11, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, August 4, 2011, 7:33 PM it happened at our shelter. we vaccinated s wjole bunch of cats they got sick. we retested them they all came up positive. repeate the tests a few days later all the tests were back to negative. I posted about it when it happened. we returned the rest of the vaccines to the mfg. TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com wrote: I am a licensed vet tech (though for the last year a stay at home Mom) and I have never heard of a live FeLV vaccine. Nor have I ever heard of it making a cat show positive on a test. FIV and FIP are the only ones I have ever heard of causing a false positive on a test. I will check with a few of my vet friends and see if they can give any more info. Tanya --- On Thu, 8/4/11, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, August 4, 2011, 4:45 PM Is this live vaccine new? I've never heard that a vaccination for FeLV will make a positive result, but I'm getting a killed virus vaccination for my cats. I'll let you know what my vet says. Never hurts to get a second opinion :) Thanks! - Original Message - From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question From what I've read they WILL test positive for FeLV after vaccination with a live vaccine. This happened at our shelter. I don't know how many days that lasts, but she would not have a false positive at this point. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Martha Walton marthawal...@gmail.com To: Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question Thanks everyone! My vet told me that Peaches would test positive because she's had the FeLV vaccination. I think I will call the vet that Peaches former owners took her to ask them to test Peaches. Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they say. On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.comwrote: It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate the cat instead of testing them. Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals. Apparently it costs too much - but I think the cost is worth saving other cats from getting exposed to FeLV. I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come out positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading. Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in case =^_^= On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I think I would definitely get Peaches tested. If all your cats are indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV. Only if there's a chance they could get it. But if you're not letting them out and you're not fostering other cats then there's no risk of exposure to the virus so no real need for a vaccination. If all your other cats have been tested and are negative also then Peaches wouldn't need the vaccination either. So as long as her combo test is negative, then you really don't need to worry about Nibbles. It's totally up to you though. Just my thoughts. Course if Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles up to speed. And I think he does need to do the series of two shots over again if you decide to get him current like Lynda said. Thanks for giving Peaches a home. And kick that other lady in the butt for kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby. Maureen sent from my ATT Smartphone by HTC - Reply message - From: Martha Walton marthawal...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant apartment. Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat. They took Peaches to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed. I don't know why the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia
[Felvtalk] Elijah in NYC needs a home
ELIJAH is a very sweet, friendly kitty who is still being boarded at a veterinary facility since MAY (!) desperately needs to start really stretching his legs from his confinement interacting in a real home. Please consider adopting this darling boy who has come such a long way from his tough start at the shelter with a bad URI and is now quite healthy, vocal, eager to interact and to just belong again! Here is the video link to his pics: http://animoto.com/play/4pl0sjOTn6FUIgzr9mMucQ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Rescued kitty in NY in need of forever home
My friend works with a rescue in NYC. They rescued this little guy. She fell madly in love with him and was going to keep him but he tested FeLV+. She fosters many kittens and cannot keep him now. She wants him to go to a great forever home. Please anyone that could possibly take in this sweet, loving kitty check out this link, she is willing to transport him to pretty much anywhere in the US as long as he gets a great forever home. http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=242882799056893set=a.201131079898732.56184.155925874419253type=1theater He needs a home to go to, he is currently living at a vet hospital waiting to go to a home, please share his information. If you need more information please feel free to contact me. Thanks, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Kitty in NY
Please anyone in the NE US that could possibly take in this sweet, loving kitty check out this link: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=231562030201751set=a.176852409006047.38934.173293282695293type=1theater He needs a forever home to go to. thanks, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Felv kitty rescued from kill shelter in need of a home
Please see the attached link to Eli, he was rescued from the NYC kill shelter but has tested positive for FeLV. The rescue person who saved his life desperately wanted to keep him for herself as she has fallen hard for him but since he is pos and she has so many rescue kittens in and out of her home she can't keep him. She is looking for someone who would be willing to give this wonderfully sweet little guy a forever home. Here is her little info write up in him: Elijahlove at first sight ♥ You would never know with the way this 2 year old boy recovered from a horrible URI that he is FeLV positive (confirmed via SNAP IFA). He is now healthy, neutered, and had 2 bad teeth removed. Elijah is an old soul, and when he looks at you, he reaches in and touches your heart. He is affectionate, gentle, and wants to know love more than anything. He has beautiful aquamarine eyes, and seems to be a Turkish angora mix with the chocolate coloring of a Havana Brown. Elijah was rescued from NYCACC and is now in search of the purrrfect forever home. Please contact me at asbkitty...@gmail.com. http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1873904920391set=a.1433439389028.2056334.1024201982type=1theater Please share this with anyone you know that may want to love this angel. Thank you, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] resend of NY kitty in need
Please see the attached link to Eli, he was rescued from the NYC kill shelter but has tested positive for FeLV. The rescue person who saved his life desperately wanted to keep him for herself as she has fallen hard for him but since he is pos and she has so many rescue kittens in and out of her home she can't keep him. She is looking for someone who would be willing to give this wonderfully sweet little guy a forever home. Here is her little info write up in him: Elijahlove at first sight ♥ You would never know with the way this 2 year old boy recovered from a horrible URI that he is FeLV positive (confirmed via SNAP IFA). He is now healthy, neutered, and had 2 bad teeth removed. Elijah is an old soul, and when he looks at you, he reaches in and touches your heart. He is affectionate, gentle, and wants to know love more than anything. He has beautiful aquamarine eyes, and seems to be a Turkish angora mix with the chocolate coloring of a Havana Brown. Elijah was rescued from NYCACC and is now in search of the purrrfect forever home. Please contact me at asbkitty...@gmail.com. http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1873904920391set=a.1433439389028.2056334.1024201982type=1theater Please share this with anyone you know that may want to love this angel. Thank you, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions
And remember, even with FeLV neg cats we never know how long we will have them either. There are many people who lose their healthy cats to all kinds of things. I have seen many people's FeLV kitty outlive their neg kitty! :) Tanya --- On Sun, 6/5/11, Mark thecatresc...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Mark thecatresc...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, June 5, 2011, 6:12 AM The only thing you left out is felv can be beaten. The cat throws off the virus on its own or it gets help from a human. Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Android phone Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net wrote: Hi all, We are trying to give little Sabriina a chance. She is an approximately 5 month old lynx Siamese. She was pulled from a dope house was going to come to us as a foster until she was tested positive for FeLeuk. At the moment she is at a sanctuary about 75 miles from here. We are desperately trying to find someone who will take her for the approximately 6 months that I understand will give a good idea whether she can beat this virus or not. She is healthy looks great. She has had so far only the snap test as I understand it, the IFA test should follow in about 3 weeks. Is this correct? We have a daughter of a friend who MAY take her. But she has two small children the family had to put down their 2 Siamese about a year ago they are not anxious to take in a kitty that they will have to euthanize soon. I have not spoken to her yet but will be tomorrow I am planning on telling her pretty much the following: There are no guarantees as to how long a kitty will live who has tested positive for FeLeuk. It depends on a lot of factors - her general health how she is cared for - diet, freedom from stress, etc. Some kitties will not live long at all; others can live for years: still others will fall somewhere in between. No guarantees. They have no other cats right now I can tell them for sure that they will never have to euthanize her. If she continues to test positive, they have the option of having us take her to the sanctuary where she is not she would join the other FeLeuk cats in that part of the sanctuary. Or they can keep her give her good loving care for as long as she has, knowing that they played a huge part in making her life one filled with love. It would be hard on the kids but it would teach them something about compassion, about caring for an animal that they may lose, that it will hurt them to lose her, but that they know they have done a good beautiful thing. Please tell me if there is more I can tell her. I have never had a FeLeuk kitty before I am no expert on this. So I am very much in need to information I can provide that is fair objective so that they can make an informed compassionate decision. I very much want them to take her but I do not want to mislead them either. Please help me. Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New Info found
Also remember that cats with age, do develop some natural immunity to FeLV as well as having the vaccine on board. Information changes all the time. One month I hear hours to days and another I hear days to weeks. There are also a lot of factors that go into that like sun, ph, how much FeLV was involved, temperature, etc. and we are typically talking about minuet amounts from sneezes etc. Tanya --- On Sun, 5/1/11, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New Info found To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 3:53 PM I don't know what to tell you. I have always given my negative cats the FeLV vaccine. I mixed my positives and negatives but did not worry since the negatives were adults and vaccinated. I understand that no vaccine is a 100% guarantee but it is better than doing nothing. Many adult cats have developed an natural immunity. We each do what we think is best for our cats. Sharyl From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2011 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New Info found I found this link from Cornell University. Cornell states that previously it was thought that FeLV could only live minutes to a couple hours outside the host (cat) on surfaces such as glass, carpets, etc. Now from studies it can last DAYS TO WEEKS! 2008 is the most recent publication I found regarding how long FeLV can survive outside the host. This concens me greatly since I just lost a kitten to FeLV in March and still have an unprotected cat that may contract it. So my surviving cat was still getting exposed possibly weeks after my kitten had died? How frightening! Please give me your thoughts. Here is the link: http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc//news/docs/FLVirus.pdf - Original Message - From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's kitty palace Sorry, I don't think the link will work. I am in the process of trying something else. Jannes From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 11:15:43 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Amber's kitty palace Hello Everyone, Please dlick on this link to see photos of Amber's new kitty palace. div style=width:480px;text-align:right;embed width=480 height=360 src=http://static.pbsrc.com/flash/rss_slideshow.swf; flashvars=rssFeed=http%3A%2F%2Ffeed1113.photobucket.com% Amber is the felv positive kitty we rescued 7 weeks ago. She was on death's door just absolutely starving and did not look well. She had no energy to even play. After 7 weeks of TLC and good food it is hard for me to believe she has any issues at all. I have three healthy cats upstairs and I am not willing to take the chance of exposing them to the virus even though they have been vaccinated against felv. I am so glad I did not have Amber euthanized! The vet was leaning in that direction. God bless you all for all that you do for our sweet feline friends. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil
Michael, Yes Sunny and Weston. I so desperately hope they get a home. I had seen the post from the lady about coconut oil on one of the links to Weston. When I replied to her that I had not heard of such a thing and that there was indeed no cure she told me to look up that man, but there are several so I could not contact him. Tanya --- On Wed, 4/27/11, Second Chance Meows secondchanceme...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Second Chance Meows secondchanceme...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 3:28 PM First off THERE IS NO CURE for FeLV. I have heard of all kinds of things that are supposed to give great extensions of life to cats with FeLV, but have yet to see any kind of results. After 8 years of specializing in nothing but Fe-Luk cats i have found that, love, attention, basic supplements ( iron,L-lysine, and the like) are the best treatments for them. Adding things like high O2 water helps as well.( moving water not in a bowl). I know that many are going to say things like interferon, transfusions and like are good for them but they only prolong the inevitable. This virus will at some point in the cats life cause issues that will have grave consequences. Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Roseann Fitzgerald cop...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil Michael, have you heard about this pro or con? -- Sent from ATT's Wireless network using Mobile Email --Original Message-- From: Second Chance Meows secondchanceme...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:38:37 AM GMT-0700 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil Tanya, are you talking about the seniors at TLAC in Austin, Sunny and Weston? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 5:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil At least with hydrogen peroxide, it is known to cure human cancers and is used in Europe and Mexico...it can be taken orally or given by IV. Apparently, cancer cannot exist in all oxygen, and hydrogen peroxide oxygenatesI am still searching. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil It truly amazes me that ppl pray on others that are so desperate to find a cure. If it were that easy, all of us would be informed. We just have to use the common sense that the dear Lord gave us. Amen Lynda - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I have never heard of this, but we started using coconut oil because it tolerates higher temperatures than other oils before becoming saturated fat. Where and who is this man, Mark McCandlish - what does he do? I read that hydrogen peroxide can cure FeLV - but have yet to find anything on it anywhere. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of TANYA NOE Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I was wondering if anyone has heard of this, a woman on FB is claiming that coconut oil given for approximately 4 weeks will cure a cat with FeLV. I wrote to her and told her that there was in fact no cure and she told me to talk to a man named Mark McCandlish, though there are several so I was not able to look him up. I am a licensed vet tech and am constantly researching FeLV and have not seen anything of the sort out there. One would think if a cure would have popped up that it would be talked about everywhere especially by the FeLV cat parents crowd. I find it frustrating when people post information on FB under cats that are in need of homes and do not have their facts straight. They are either sharing that FeLV is this freakishly contagious disease and that all FeLV cats must be kept separate or euthanized or they are spouting about cures. Those of us who have FeLV babies and are praying for that cure to save them don't want that fake carrot dangled in front of our faces. Anyway sorry for the rant, I just wanted to be sure I am not out of the loop before I keep arguing with her about it. Also there are 2 beautiful, sweet cats
Re: [Felvtalk] Coconut oil
This woman claimed that with approximately 3-4 months of use it would cure a cat, I haven't seen anything that suggests that anywhere. --- On Wed, 4/27/11, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Coconut oil To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 2:15 PM Yes, whoever claimed that it helps, may have a very valid point because coconut oil is supposed to boost the immune systemmaybe one has to extrapolate the dosage down from a cat's weight -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 12:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Coconut oil Very interesting. I would be nice though to know the dosage required for results... - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 10:38 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Coconut oil I wonder if this could be applicable to FeLV In the late '90s and early 2000s, Dr. Veech discovered how ketones might counteract breakdowns in energy production in both Alzheimer's and Parkinson's patients. In 2001, he published his results in the journal of the International Union of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, IUBMB Life. As it happens, coconut oil is one of the world's best (and few) sources of MCTs. In fact, 65% of coconut oil is made up of MCTs. Coconut oil is also an amazing source of ketone bodies, because those are produced through metabolism of MCTs -- and they may be a critical weapon against a host of crippling conditions such as . . . . Parkinson's disease . ALS (Lou Gehrig's disease) . Huntington's disease . Drug resistant epilepsy . Diabetes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil
Lynda, I did but have yet to get a reply from her. :( Tanya --- On Wed, 4/27/11, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 8:01 PM Tanya, Contact the lady again and ask how her how to get in contact with him. Lynda - Original Message - From: TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil Michael, Yes Sunny and Weston. I so desperately hope they get a home. I had seen the post from the lady about coconut oil on one of the links to Weston. When I replied to her that I had not heard of such a thing and that there was indeed no cure she told me to look up that man, but there are several so I could not contact him. Tanya --- On Wed, 4/27/11, Second Chance Meows secondchanceme...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Second Chance Meows secondchanceme...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 3:28 PM First off THERE IS NO CURE for FeLV. I have heard of all kinds of things that are supposed to give great extensions of life to cats with FeLV, but have yet to see any kind of results. After 8 years of specializing in nothing but Fe-Luk cats i have found that, love, attention, basic supplements ( iron,L-lysine, and the like) are the best treatments for them. Adding things like high O2 water helps as well.( moving water not in a bowl). I know that many are going to say things like interferon, transfusions and like are good for them but they only prolong the inevitable. This virus will at some point in the cats life cause issues that will have grave consequences. Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Roseann Fitzgerald cop...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil Michael, have you heard about this pro or con? -- Sent from ATT's Wireless network using Mobile Email --Original Message-- From: Second Chance Meows secondchanceme...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:38:37 AM GMT-0700 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil Tanya, are you talking about the seniors at TLAC in Austin, Sunny and Weston? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 5:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil At least with hydrogen peroxide, it is known to cure human cancers and is used in Europe and Mexico...it can be taken orally or given by IV. Apparently, cancer cannot exist in all oxygen, and hydrogen peroxide oxygenatesI am still searching. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil It truly amazes me that ppl pray on others that are so desperate to find a cure. If it were that easy, all of us would be informed. We just have to use the common sense that the dear Lord gave us. Amen Lynda - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I have never heard of this, but we started using coconut oil because it tolerates higher temperatures than other oils before becoming saturated fat. Where and who is this man, Mark McCandlish - what does he do? I read that hydrogen peroxide can cure FeLV - but have yet to find anything on it anywhere. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of TANYA NOE Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I was wondering if anyone has heard of this, a woman on FB is claiming that coconut oil given for approximately 4 weeks will cure a cat with FeLV. I wrote to her and told her that there was in fact no cure and she told me to talk to a man named Mark McCandlish, though there are several so I was not able to look him up. I am a licensed vet tech and am constantly researching FeLV and have not seen anything of the sort out there. One would think if a cure would have popped up
[Felvtalk] coconut oil
I was wondering if anyone has heard of this, a woman on FB is claiming that coconut oil given for approximately 4 weeks will cure a cat with FeLV. I wrote to her and told her that there was in fact no cure and she told me to talk to a man named Mark McCandlish, though there are several so I was not able to look him up. I am a licensed vet tech and am constantly researching FeLV and have not seen anything of the sort out there. One would think if a cure would have popped up that it would be talked about everywhere especially by the FeLV cat parents crowd. I find it frustrating when people post information on FB under cats that are in need of homes and do not have their facts straight. They are either sharing that FeLV is this freakishly contagious disease and that all FeLV cats must be kept separate or euthanized or they are spouting about cures. Those of us who have FeLV babies and are praying for that cure to save them don't want that fake carrot dangled in front of our faces. Anyway sorry for the rant, I just wanted to be sure I am not out of the loop before I keep arguing with her about it. Also there are 2 beautiful, sweet cats in Austin TX who are felv + and in need of a home asap. If anyone may be interested please let me know and I will forward the link with the info and pics. They are incredibly sweet and very cute! Thanks, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] request for counsel on BreAnne
BreAnne, I am sorry, this time must be hard on you. My only advice is that only you can know when she is ready to go. The signs you have listed, to me sound like she is getting close but you know her now and how she was. If she does not seem to be suffering you can give her time and see if she pulls out of this again. She could very well be grieving, it is so hard to know. I wish it were as easy as asking them, but it isn't. Go with your heart, you will make the right decision. Tanya --- On Mon, 4/25/11, czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com wrote: From: czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] request for counsel on BreAnne To: feline leukemia list felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 5:35 PM BreAnne is just short of 2 yoa; spayed. She was the playmate of ToriRose who succumbed to Fe leukemia 2.2010. BreAnne tested + at that time. Isaac left 2.2011. I gathered everyone else up and moved them into my apartment from the country when Isaac left. BreAnne was/is an assertive female. Isaac used to terrorize Scrumptious in a major way. BreAnne and Scrumptious show little mercy for each other. There are now 6 cats. Cats are shedding. BreAnne's tail and rear legs look as if she has a bad case of the fleas. When I flea comb her she continues to lose a lot of fur. there are no fleas. there is now no luster in her fur. Bowel movements look okay. this past Saturday I continued the follow-up ELISA testing. The 2 originally negative cats are still negative and I vaccinated them. I asked the vet to look at BreAnne. He commented on her ratty, looking dry coat, said she had a temperature (but that it may have been due to the long ride up). I have no explanation about why I didn't ask how high or about starting her on an antibiotic. We started everyone on Petzlife oral gel (thank you Natalie) a couple weeks ago. He said her mouth looked good. BreAnne has been losing weight, not eating well. I follow her around with the food and draw her attention to it. She won't eat anything containing the usual supplements we use. I have been hydrating some orally and giving some NutriCal. She has been hanging out under the bathroom sink cabinet in the darkness. Easter Sunday I was able to be home all day and let Scrumptious out (since she is negative). I guess writing this is about getting ready maybe to let her go. The cat she is today in no way resembles her picture of 16 months ago. Stress for her? Her Grieving the loss of Isaac? She was really, really thin about 9 months ago but came back from it naturally. will leave it there. any comments will be appreciated czadna ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil
She did not give a dosage --- On Tue, 4/26/11, Roseann Fitzgerald cop...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Roseann Fitzgerald cop...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 7:09 PM What dosage? -- Sent from ATT's Wireless network using Mobile Email --Original Message-- From: TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 3:32:24 PM GMT-0700 Subject: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I was wondering if anyone has heard of this, a woman on FB is claiming that coconut oil given for approximately 4 weeks will cure a cat with FeLV. I wrote to her and told her that there was in fact no cure and she told me to talk to a man named Mark McCandlish, though there are several so I was not able to look him up. I am a licensed vet tech and am constantly researching FeLV and have not seen anything of the sort out there. One would think if a cure would have popped up that it would be talked about everywhere especially by the FeLV cat parents crowd. I find it frustrating when people post information on FB under cats that are in need of homes and do not have their facts straight. They are either sharing that FeLV is this freakishly contagious disease and that all FeLV cats must be kept separate or euthanized or they are spouting about cures. Those of us who have FeLV babies and are praying for that cure to save them don't want that fake carrot dangled in front of our faces. Anyway sorry for the rant, I just wanted to be sure I am not out of the loop before I keep arguing with her about it. Also there are 2 beautiful, sweet cats in Austin TX who are felv + and in need of a home asap. If anyone may be interested please let me know and I will forward the link with the info and pics. They are incredibly sweet and very cute! Thanks, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace
Forgive me if this has already been said I haven't had time to read all the posts to this thread. The kitty palace is great! I don't know that I could have built something so nice. Have you thought about getting her a buddy? There are so many FeLV kitties in need of a home and she may get lonely. We kept ours separate initially by building a door to cover the stairway from 1st floor to the 2nd floor. We tried to share our time equally, but our little Maggie still was so very lonely. Now we have been a mixed family for 2.5 years. Just a thought! Tanya --- On Tue, 4/19/11, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 2:38 AM He did awesome. That's quite the palace for her. I can tell you guys put a lot of thought into how you set it up also. You two are quite the pair. Amber is so lucky to have stumbled across you and your wonderful husband. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:19:26 -0700 From: jannestay...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace Luckily, I have a soft hearted hubby who spent many hours working on this. He is not a carpenter by any means, but did pretty good for a rookie. Jannes From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 1:40:46 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace Wow, nice little apartment she's got there! She's a real cutie, too. Looks a bit like my cat, Miya-Chan. She looks good healthy too. How nice of you to do this for her! ~B. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jannestay...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 10:04 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Amber's Kitty Palace QueenJMT http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k518/QueenJMT/?track=share_email_album_v iew_click I wanted share something on Photobucket with you! If you are having problems viewing this email, copy and paste the following into your browser: http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k518/QueenJMT/?showNotificationLB=1trac k=share_email_album_view_click Photobucket.com - http://photobucket.com Join the biggest image and video sharing service in the world. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
Positive on IFA means it has reached the bone barrow and there is no clearing the virus. If she is positive on the snap test again (and it has been at least 6 weeks since she last tested positive) then she is FeLV positive, but you need to wait the full 6 weeks to give her body time to clear the vius. There is still a slight chance she could clear the virus from her body even if it has been 6 weeks but most likely she will not. I have spoken with the maker of the snap test because we were always told that there we a lot of false positives and at my clinic there were probably 2-3 of every 10 tests that were positive, but IDEXX says that the tests are 99.999% accurate. Whether you mix or not is completely up to you. We mixed our girls 2 years ago. Since cats over the age of 1-2 years of age begin to develop a natural immunity and our negative cat is properly vaccinated the risk of the non-positive contracting FeLV is small. There is still a risk but it is very small. I hope this helps and thanks for taking care of this kitty!! Tanya --- On Mon, 4/18/11, Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net wrote: From: Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net Subject: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:38 AM Test is in from IDEXX. Poppy is IFA negative! BUT they did another Elisa (the first was done in-house) she is still Elisa positive. So tell me now what this means. I have to go off to Madison right now but when I get back I will re-read all the links with this confirmed info in hand. My woman who is willing to take Poppy into her FeLeuk positive sanctuary, says she will test positive on the next IFA in a month all this IFA means is that she does not have melanoma or something else. My vet is kinda skeptical too. But you all are the ones who are hands on every day (well, so is my woman with the sanctuary) but I need your input. My intention now is to get her to the vet for worming. That wasn't done for some reason. Will probably try to do that when I transition her out of the condo. Into a crate. Then she will have my spare room, with one hiding place. I have a twin bed in there but am going to take the frame out put the mattresses on the floor cause I don't want her hiding under the bed in the dark all the time. Same with stuff up against the wall. There is a low to the floor desk I guess I will let her have that but will barricade everything else leave several open crates with towels around also. Meanwhile her appetite is very good. I KNOW she wants to be with other cats, but I just can't put one of my negative kitties in there. Marie, at the sanctuary, would loan me a nice cat but it would be positive that would eliminate any little chance Poppy might have. Your thoughts, please please. Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
Yes, I was just explaining what positive on the IFA meant. :) Positive on the snap and then positive again at least 6 weeks later is most likely positive. Tanya --- On Mon, 4/18/11, Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net wrote: From: Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 4:34 PM She is not positive on the IFA, she is negative. An initial positive on the Elisa the another positive on the Elisa, but at the same time, a negative on the IFA. On 4/18/2011 1:09 PM, TANYA NOE wrote: Positive on IFA means it has reached the bone barrow and there is no clearing the virus. If she is positive on the snap test again (and it has been at least 6 weeks since she last tested positive) then she is FeLV positive, but you need to wait the full 6 weeks to give her body time to clear the vius. There is still a slight chance she could clear the virus from her body even if it has been 6 weeks but most likely she will not. I have spoken with the maker of the snap test because we were always told that there we a lot of false positives and at my clinic there were probably 2-3 of every 10 tests that were positive, but IDEXX says that the tests are 99.999% accurate. Whether you mix or not is completely up to you. We mixed our girls 2 years ago. Since cats over the age of 1-2 years of age begin to develop a natural immunity and our negative cat is properly vaccinated the risk of the non-positive contracting FeLV is small. There is still a risk but it is very small. I hope this helps and thanks for taking care of this kitty!! Tanya --- On Mon, 4/18/11, Pam Normanpam_nor...@charter.net wrote: From: Pam Normanpam_nor...@charter.net Subject: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:38 AM Test is in from IDEXX. Poppy is IFA negative! BUT they did another Elisa (the first was done in-house) she is still Elisa positive. So tell me now what this means. I have to go off to Madison right now but when I get back I will re-read all the links with this confirmed info in hand. My woman who is willing to take Poppy into her FeLeuk positive sanctuary, says she will test positive on the next IFA in a month all this IFA means is that she does not have melanoma or something else. My vet is kinda skeptical too. But you all are the ones who are hands on every day (well, so is my woman with the sanctuary) but I need your input. My intention now is to get her to the vet for worming. That wasn't done for some reason. Will probably try to do that when I transition her out of the condo. Into a crate. Then she will have my spare room, with one hiding place. I have a twin bed in there but am going to take the frame out put the mattresses on the floor cause I don't want her hiding under the bed in the dark all the time. Same with stuff up against the wall. There is a low to the floor desk I guess I will let her have that but will barricade everything else leave several open crates with towels around also. Meanwhile her appetite is very good. I KNOW she wants to be with other cats, but I just can't put one of my negative kitties in there. Marie, at the sanctuary, would loan me a nice cat but it would be positive that would eliminate any little chance Poppy might have. Your thoughts, please please. Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Casanova aka Studs going over the rainbow bridge
Beth, So sorry to hear this. At least he had you even if it was only for a short time. Bless you, and gentle vibes over the rainbow bridge little one. Tanya --- On Fri, 4/1/11, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Casanova aka Studs going over the rainbow bridge To: FeLV Talk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, April 1, 2011, 4:04 PM Too emotionally exhausted to go into detail, but it is time. I've only had this kitty since Monday he has already stolen my heart. I'm thankful I got to sleep in his room with him last night - he slept glued to me. He knows he is loved. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about the virus itself
I am not sure how long the Vet Jet has been around, at least a couple of years. I am hoping that where we are now in NH I can find a clinic that uses it. My 14 year old neg still gets the FeLV vaccine even though she is highly unlikely to get FeLV from Maggie as it is still possible. I think it is great that you are thinking about taking in more FeLV babies. It is still very tough to find them homes and in most shelters and clinics they are still unfairly destroyed. Whatever you decide remember it's the quality of the years of their lives and not the quantity. Good luck, Tanya --- On Wed, 3/30/11, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about the virus itself To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 1:12 AM Hadn't heard about the vet jet. I'll have to ask about it. Because I didn't know the one cat had the virus until she died a few weeks ago most of my cats have lived with her and shared food bowls for at least a year and some were with her for almost two years. One vet was kind of saying that if they hadn't gotten the virus by now they probably wouldn't get it so there wouldn't be a need to vaccinate any of my others. I don't know if he's right or not about not vaccinating the negatives. I've just been tossing that idea around. But then someone was asking me about these FeLV + kittens and it got me to thinking about whether I should vaccinate if a new member was added. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 13:49:28 -0700 From: sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about the virus itself I think that they are immune for life if they get and extinguish the virus. I do not believe that it is a mutating virus of any sort, at least not so far. The problem is you have no way of knowing for sure that you cat did this unless it was positive and is now negative. Cats develop some natural immunity with age, it is possible to live together for years and not contract it even with repeated exposures. If you are concerned about vaccine related sarcomas there are FeLv vaccines that are given by the vet jet that is considered much safer, that is what we were using at the last vet hospital I worked at. Good luck, Tanya --- On Tue, 3/29/11, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Question about the virus itself To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 12:30 PM I've got a question about the FeLV virus itself. Is it all the same virus or does it mutate and change like the herpes virus that causes URI? What I'm wondering is that if I've got a cat that has been exposed to the virus but extinguished it, is he immune for life? Seems like I read that. So if I brought in another FeLV + kitty and my resident cat has already gotten some immunity from the virus he had been exposed to in the past, does that mean being exposed to the virus through another cat would be the same as the virus that he was first exposed to so his immunity would work against that virus? Does that make sense? I'm wondering if I brought in another FeLV + cat would I need to vaccinate my cat that has already been exposed and extinguished the virus. Anyone have a clue? I guess the main question is if the virus mutates from cat to cat or is it always the same virus and doesn't change. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about the virus itself
I think that they are immune for life if they get and extinguish the virus. I do not believe that it is a mutating virus of any sort, at least not so far. The problem is you have no way of knowing for sure that you cat did this unless it was positive and is now negative. Cats develop some natural immunity with age, it is possible to live together for years and not contract it even with repeated exposures. If you are concerned about vaccine related sarcomas there are FeLv vaccines that are given by the vet jet that is considered much safer, that is what we were using at the last vet hospital I worked at. Good luck, Tanya --- On Tue, 3/29/11, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Question about the virus itself To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 12:30 PM I've got a question about the FeLV virus itself. Is it all the same virus or does it mutate and change like the herpes virus that causes URI? What I'm wondering is that if I've got a cat that has been exposed to the virus but extinguished it, is he immune for life? Seems like I read that. So if I brought in another FeLV + kitty and my resident cat has already gotten some immunity from the virus he had been exposed to in the past, does that mean being exposed to the virus through another cat would be the same as the virus that he was first exposed to so his immunity would work against that virus? Does that make sense? I'm wondering if I brought in another FeLV + cat would I need to vaccinate my cat that has already been exposed and extinguished the virus. Anyone have a clue? I guess the main question is if the virus mutates from cat to cat or is it always the same virus and doesn't change. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Fw: Re: FW: Keep Cats Indoors
--- On Thu, 3/24/11, TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com wrote: From: TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 9:09 AM Personally I would never rather see a cat dead than see it declawed. People lose limbs all the time and go on living, most people would choose to live missing a limb or limbs rather than die. Animals are no different, they will chew off a limb to live. There are people who love their pets and their immune systems can not handle the scratches or the children in the home are not safe because of it's scratching. There are also a lot of cats that are nasty scratchers for no apparent reason and no matter what you do you can't break them of it. Declawing is amputation but most cats recover from it and live out their lives just fine without lingering pain or litterbox issues. With good pain meds, a competent Vet, and love and compassion most cats do well. I am not a declaw advocate but understand that sometimes it may be the price one pays for a good home. Many cats get dumped at kill shelters because they wont quit scratching and being destructive. It is far better to be declawed than to be killed and never have had the experience of a home and of being loved. T --- On Thu, 3/24/11, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 8:07 AM Personally, if I had to make such a choice - having my cat that I have loved for years go though such pain and torture, I would rather get a home for the cat and adopt one that is already declawed - there are quite a few that are in desperate need for homes because they've been abandoned for so many reasons! But that's me; I hate to say it, but sometimes I wonder whether I might almost rather see them dead than declawedbut I'd beg someone to take the cat first. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 7:25 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors I deal with ferals too and all of my house cats have been ferals. One cost me two surgeries thanks to biting through a finger...my fault not hers. A lot of older people are on blood thinners, have extremely thin skin etc. I've been scratched more times than I can count. Obviously, you have been blessed. I'm in my 50's and recover fairly easily. I know of too many older people without sufficient support who can't recover quickly. I suspect it has to do with the overall health of the individual and the personality of the cat. Personally, I have seen my mother bleed for hours from various (for me) insignificant cuts. As I said, declawing should be the last resort but there are times I feel it is justified. On Mar 23, 2011, at 9:34 PM, Natalie wrote: That is true, but I don't understand why an old person can't have a cat with claws. Dealing mostly with feral cats, I have never been bitten or scratched - what's the danger, I am 70 yrs old. And as I said, bites are a natural defense for declawed cats! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 6:40 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors Those may be very reasonable options for a lot of people. However, I suspect you overestimate the resources available to everyone. Not everyone can drive; not everyone has someone who can/will attempt to trim a cat's nails; not everyone can afford a trip to the vet's every 2-4 weeks; and not every cat can be rehomed. Mass transit is not available everywhere. I agree that it should be a last resort. However, I am not willing to condemn everyone who declaws. On Mar 23, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Natalie wrote: A vet, a vet tech, or a friend could do it - surely a better option than putting a cat through such torture, not to mention complete personality change to being withdrawn, morose, or an unpredictable biter! Cat bites are more dangerous than scratches any time! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 6:14 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors That is a good optionif the owner is able to trim nails and put SoftPaws on. A lot of elderly people don't have
Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors
I was just going to say that Sam! --- On Tue, 3/22/11, SomeWhere Sam sin...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: SomeWhere Sam sin...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 4:36 PM Sorry but that information is outdated or biased. The number one killer of birds is humans due to habitat loss or construction for same. Humans: The Number One Threat to Birds http://www.alleycat.org/NetCommunity/Page.aspx?pid=325 SomeWhere Sam From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 2:37:38 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors In the newspaper today: House cats are the #1 predator of wild birds. The American Bird Conservancy estimates up to 500 million birds per year are killed by cats. About 400,000 are killed yearly by wind turbines (less than 20% of the number killed by cats). So now we have another reason to keep our cats indoors -- not only for their own health and safety, but for that of our BIRD population! Save the cats and the birds: Keep Your Cat Indoors! ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Airline Health Certificate
I don't see why not. If you are flying within the US you do not usually have to have a health certificate. Are you flying kitty by commercial air? Tanya --- On Mon, 3/21/11, Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com wrote: From: Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Airline Health Certificate To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 21, 2011, 9:40 AM Would a FeLV positive cat showing no signs of illness be able to get a health certificate to travel by air? My current vet seems to think it wouldn't be a problem. However, she is leaving and I am worried it could be a problem! Thanks for your input. Melinda, Fuji, VooDoo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] laser
the clinic I worked at in PA before we moved to NH last Aug. has been using laser for 1.5-2 years. It is great. Less bleeding because the laser seals vessels as it cuts, less bruising because it doesn't tear through the skin like a scalpel. The animals seem to be less painful and seem to recover faster. Worth the drive if you can find one somewhere near you. Tanya --- On Wed, 3/16/11, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] laser To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 8:00 AM On 03-15, MaiMaiPG wrote: laser helps reduce the stress Laser spay? I don't think our one and only vet clinic does this. Is it a fairly new proceedure? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice
I agree with Diane, any vet who recommends euthanasia because a cat is FeLV, and for that reason only is not only ignorant but very uneducated in the most recent research out there. A lot of the younger vets tend to be a bit more up to date and more sympathetic to FeLV cats. When we found out that our Maggie was positive (we had her snap tested before we got her but the clinic did a batch test where they took blood from all 4 kittens, mixed it together and then pulled the 3 drops needed from the mixture). I was not aware of this or never would have allowed that to happen. Maggie's FeLV was too diluted to show positive and her 3 siblings were neg. We did not find out she was POS until a few months later when she became symptomatic and we retested again and also did an IFA. We decided to keep her which the vets there were very disapproving of. They believed that all FeLV cats should be destroyed so that we could eradicate the disease. While I agree with eradicating the disease, my little Maggie isn't spreading her disease anywhere as my indoor kitty. Our other kitty is vaccinated against FeLV and we do not keep them separated. We count on the vaccine and the natural immunities cats develop as they age to keep Sasha safe, and so far so good. We made the decision to mix after talking to everyone on here and getting their advice first too. Good luck with what ever you do. Tanya --- On Tue, 3/15/11, Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com wrote: From: Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 7:31 PM Wow, Jannes. The vet advocating euthanization is a warning sign not to let him/her treat this particular cat. She is obviously not up to date on the latest research and you need all the knowledge you can get to maintain Amber's good health. You might consider calling around to different vets and see what their feeling is about FeLV care. If you know of some vets who treat shelter cats, they may be a good place to start because they will have encountered it before. Best of luck with Amber. I personally hope you choose to vaccinate the others and let her commingle, but that's me and not you. ;-) Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice I want to thank everyone who responded about my post regarding Amber, my FeLV positive cat. I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the health of my other cats from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan to be cautious but do feel less stressed about it. I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is nothing like being able to get advice from folks who have experienced this situation. The vet leaned toward euthanization after her after her test came back positive. I just could not euthanize a seemingly otherwise healthy cat. I want to give her a chance! I hope and pray that her next test will come back negative. Whatever happens, I am glad I was there to save her from starving to death. She is getting high quality food now and lots of petting every chance I get! She has improved a lot in the last few weeks. It is sad how she sits at the top of the staircase and can't come upstairs. It is what it is, I guess. At least for now... I would love to hear from more folks regarding this subject. Thanks you all and God Bless!! Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Cats do develop a type of natural immunity to FeLV after the age of one, so cats that are over 3 are less likely to develop FelV even if they are not vaccinated. Add the vaccine and they are even less likely to get it. This is most likely why so many of us have had such good lick with mixing our kids. Tanya --- On Tue, 3/15/11, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 10:37 AM I worked a hoarding case with 26 unvaccinated cats. 3 of them turned out to be FeLV positive. We quarantined the remaining cats for 6 months none showed up FeLV positive after the 6 months. I was amazed. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 10:48 PM My FIV cat has never been vaccinated against FeLV which is why I assumed he would get it from the other kitty. Doesn't make sense. Oh well, I'm glad he didn't get it. Maureen To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org From: create_me_...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 02:26:16 + Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. My FIV cat lived on and off for 10 years with FeLV cats never got it. Of coarse he was vaccinated. Beth Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:18:40 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Matter of fact, I have an FIV + cat living with me that hasn't contracted the FeLV. I'm not quite sure how that has happened because he should have gotten it right away. I'm going to have him tested a couple more times over the next few months to be sure. Maybe FeLV isn't as contagious as they say. I'm still shaking my head on that one. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:26:53 -0700 From: jgonza...@pacbell.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I realize now that I did not address the concern you posted about. I felt the need to educate you about the testing protocol for FELV because I would hate to see you cage a cat for 3 months that may not even be infected with the virus. You cannot consider a cat persistently viremic until they test positive on the IFA test. If it turns out the cat you rescued is really FELV positive, she is not going to transmit the virus to your other cats through some chance encounter. It would take prolonged contact with your other cats to infect them with the virus. Even if they had prolonged contact, it does not mean your other cats would get the virus. Some cats are able to build an immune response and fight off the virus. I rescued a cat over the summer that tested positive on the combo snap test and the ELISA test but tested negative on the IFA. Thirty days later, he tested negative on the snap test, the ELISA test and continued to test negative on the IFA test. As a precaution, we tested again 30 days later, and he continued to test negative on all three tests. His body built an immune defense and fought off the virus --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 1:50 PM Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad
Re: [Felvtalk] A BIG THANK YOU
Wonderful news!!! --- On Fri, 2/18/11, Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] A BIG THANK YOU To: felvtalk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, February 18, 2011, 5:53 PM To Jenine for adopting the 3 FELV+ kittens in Austin, Texas. It took a bit of fancy footwork as we only had a few hours, but they are SAFE! Yay! -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] FeLV + kitten needs help
Hello everyone, A girl I know rescued an approximately 18-22 week old kitten from a high kill shelters euthanasia list recently. The kitten has some corneal scarring but appears to still be able to see it also is FeLV +. It is a black and white female. She is very friendly, loves to cuddle and uses her litter box well. The girls family won't let her keep it because of the FeLV. We have had many talks about it but the family is still too concerned that their 3 year old cat will get sick. She can no longer keep this sweet girl and is scared to death at the idea of having to take it back to the shelter. We all know how many people in this world perceive out little FeLV babies. I posted a message last week with a picture but it was too large and I was told a moderator would look at it and either let it go through or message me why it had not. I never heard back on it so I am sending out this plea... Is there anyone out there who would be willing to take this sweet little girl and give her a home? She has been to the vet and appears to be otherwise healthy other than the FeLV and corneal scarring. If anyone is interested, please send me an email at sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com and I will send you pictures of her, she is super cute. Please, there has got to be someone out there who has the space and love for this little honey who has been given this 2nd chance. Thanks everyone, I pray for good news from someone who will get the opportunity to spend many happy years with this little angel! Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV + kitten needs help
She is currently in NJ. We are putting a chip in together on FB to raise money for transport when she finds a home! Tanya --- On Mon, 2/14/11, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV + kitten needs help To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 12:10 PM Maybe I missed it - what is the location? On Feb 14, 2011, at 8:19 AM, TANYA NOE wrote: Hello everyone, A girl I know rescued an approximately 18-22 week old kitten from a high kill shelters euthanasia list recently. The kitten has some corneal scarring but appears to still be able to see it also is FeLV +. It is a black and white female. She is very friendly, loves to cuddle and uses her litter box well. The girls family won't let her keep it because of the FeLV. We have had many talks about it but the family is still too concerned that their 3 year old cat will get sick. She can no longer keep this sweet girl and is scared to death at the idea of having to take it back to the shelter. We all know how many people in this world perceive out little FeLV babies. I posted a message last week with a picture but it was too large and I was told a moderator would look at it and either let it go through or message me why it had not. I never heard back on it so I am sending out this plea... Is there anyone out there who would be willing to take this sweet little girl and give her a home? She has been to the vet and appears to be otherwise healthy other than the FeLV and corneal scarring. If anyone is interested, please send me an email at sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com and I will send you pictures of her, she is super cute. Please, there has got to be someone out there who has the space and love for this little honey who has been given this 2nd chance. Thanks everyone, I pray for good news from someone who will get the opportunity to spend many happy years with this little angel! Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] not getting any emails
Hey everyone, I haven't seem any posts come to my in box in several days and was just wondering if I am for some reason now banned or if there just haven't been any at all. If anyone has gotten any the last couple of days or if they see this will they please respond? Thanks, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] not getting any emails
Thanks for your replies everyone. I have just never seen it so quiet! Tanya --- On Tue, 1/25/11, TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com wrote: From: TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] not getting any emails To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2011, 1:22 PM Hey everyone, I haven't seem any posts come to my in box in several days and was just wondering if I am for some reason now banned or if there just haven't been any at all. If anyone has gotten any the last couple of days or if they see this will they please respond? Thanks, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV playing paws under door with non FeLV cats
Dana, FIV is primarily transmitted by sexual intercourse and bite wounds. How old are your kitties? As far as FeLV, Cats begin to develop a natural immunity as they age, after the first year of their lives. I would recommend keeping your kitties up to date with their FeLV vaccine. There is still always some risk as each cat is different but the risk is relatively small. Touching paws in highly unlikely to spread the virus. It is incredibly fragile in a dry environment and is said to last only hours and when wet last only for days. I would talk to your vet for tips on introducing them together and to make sure your kitties are properly vaccinated. I hope this helps. Good luck! Tanya --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Barb Moermond mr_mok...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Barb Moermond mr_mok...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV playing paws under door with non FeLV cats To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 5:44 PM I think your precautions aren't necessary if your neg is up to date with vaccinations. I wouldn't be worried at all and would think about starting to introduce them properly. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous From: dana giordano giordano.d...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 3:30:56 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV playing paws under door with non FeLV cats My kitties have suddenly begun playing paws under the door of my rescued IFA positive FeLV cat and I'm wondering how worried I should be? I'm kind of worried but it seems he likes to do this and I don't want to take it away from him as it's his only kitty interaction - he hasn't had any or been interested - since I caught him a year ago. Their paws can't get all the way under the door - the gap is about a half inch high - but they get about halfway and he can get about halfway, so I think they do touch, even if it's only for a moment. I wash everything separately, and I wear flip flops in his room (although I leave them outside the door. :() I don't change clothes after playing with him, but I do wash my hands/arms. He's about 10 years old, from what the neighborhood people have told me, and he's been confirmed IFA positive FeLV and FIV positive since I rescued him a year ago. I can see he's been feeling better and better and getting more energetic as I've dewormed him, along with steady food/water/care. So I imagine he may start trying to instigate paws himself, soon. He's got a window but even that gets old, I imagine. Anyone have any thoughts on how much increased risk there is /concern I should have with playing paws? Dana ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] kitten vs. cat when adding a positive
Shannon, I don't know whether or not there is a difference in the direness between the ages, however I know that typically they give a worse prognosis for young kittens who are already symptomatic. Every cat is different so it is really hard to make that call. I say go with your gut. Our FeLV Maggie is 2 1/2 and she has been symptomatic since she was a small kitten. Good luck with whichever you choose and God bless you for taking in another FeLV! Tanya --- On Sat, 1/1/11, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] kitten vs. cat when adding a positive To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, January 1, 2011, 6:27 PM Would it be true that if a young kitten, 3 mos, is positive on an IFA that is more dire than a 2 yr old cat being confirmed on that test? It seems like the younger the diagnosis, the sadder the outcome? I am asking because in considering a friend for Whimsy, I've heard about a local 3 mos old female who is positive. I am still waiting for the shelter to let me know if it was IFA confirmed. There is another positive, but he is a very large intimidating male and my instinct tells me he wouldn't be right for our guy. I also have been approved to adopt in WI, a few hrs drive, with a group that has several 1-4 year old male and female positives. Whimsy has started trying to play with his brothers on the other side of the door and it's adorable. I'm not quite sure a kitten would be the best idea for Whimsy or for us, but we shall see! Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Murphy is gone.
Alice, I am so sorry for your loss of Murphy. You did so much for him. I was heartbroken to read your message and hear that his time had passed. You truly moved me. I am so glad you gave Murphy a loving home and then were able to let him go when the time was right. You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers. Tanya --- On Thu, 10/28/10, Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Murphy is gone. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, October 28, 2010, 1:09 AM You asked if he passed at home. No, I got home from work and checked on him, he was laying stretched out on the bedroom floor. Glenn had syringe fed and watered him through the day. He was breathing harder than normal, he had been breathing fast, trying to get oxygen. I kept thinking any day he'll begin to improve like he did in July and August when he first crashed with anemia. I gave him some pedialyte and carried him to the bathroom to see if he needed to use the litter box. For the first time, he did not stand up and his sides were heaving-he laid out on the linoleum and even laid his head on the floor, which he has never done when anyone was near. He was always alert and watching his people and interacting. His eyes were clear, but he was exhausted. After a lot of tears and wavering back and forth, we ended up taking him to the emergency vet clinic. It was very hard, but I did not think he was going to last very much longer, maybe another day and thought it would be cruel to let him go through the night unable to get enough oxygen-the anemia robbed him of all the rbcs needed to circulate oxygen. He was the bravest and most willing little guy-always came in for his meds when he thought it was time, never fussed. He was truly our little prince and our lives have a huge emptiness right now. Rosie is having a time trying to figure out where he is, but I think she will be ok in a while. We took him to the crematorium and have picked his little picture urn and his name plaque. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
How old are your other cats? Cats develop some natural immunity with age. After the age of 1-3 they become less likely to develop FeLV. If vaccinated and over 3 the risk is there but small. How old is the cat that tested positive? If under a year there is a good chance the cats body can rid itself of the virus. I would wait 6 weeks and retest the cat again regardless of age and see if it still shows positive. You can also do an IFA which tests to see if the virus has settled into the bone marrow. Once in the marrow it cannot be eliminated from the body. I have a 14 year old negative cat and a 2 year old positive cat. I do not separate them, there is still a small risk allowing them together but I vaccinate the negative one and cross my fingers. I don't know if I have ever seen anyone on here post that a neg turned pos from mixing, again though still a risk. Hope this helps, Tanya --- On Thu, 9/16/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, September 16, 2010, 2:55 PM All vaccines are only about 80% effectiveI really don't have much experience with this because I have two very healthy FeLV+ cats, living separately from others. But I would think that if retested, being only a weak positive, maybe the cat will be negative! It seems to have been really run down, the immune system was definitely compromised, fighting an infection, fleasGood luck! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Bates Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:23 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia Bonnie, it got through! Hang in there for just a bitthere are many extremely well informed members who will have any and all information you need! I am not dealing with any felv cats, but come here often so that I stay informed Debbie We choose our joys and sorrows long before we experience them. - Kahlil Gibran From: ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:32:46 -0700 Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia This e-mail got bounced back to meam trying one more time. - Original Message - From: Bonnie Hogue To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:37 PM Subject: New to Feline Leukemia It's a long story, but I'll shorten it... My mom has a heart cat named Lucky. She's disabled and no longer living at home. Her sister was caring for Lucky, but herself is unwell and struggling. I went over to feed the cats during her hospitalization and Lucky did not look good. I took him to the vet: bad fleas, possible infected eye and nose, and tested weak positive for feline leukemia. This makes my plan of integrating him into my 3-cat household a real challenge. The vet said I could get my three cats vaccinated providing 80% protection... Meanwhile, Lucky is sequestered in the spare bedroom, taking antibiotics (what a good cat!) and healing. I'm trying to figure out how to make this work, longer term. Ideas??? Thank you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Maggie - to Tanya/heart supplement
Shannon, thanks for the suggestion. I will definitely look into that. I really appreciate everyone who has written in and made suggestions. This is such a great community and a great place to get information. Sorry it has taken me so long to send out this thank you. It has been hard to keep up with the latest emails with work and my 21 month old. Also I am in the middle of preparing for a long move from PA to CO. So far Maggie is doing well and the Enalapril has really helped with her exercise intolerance. Keeping my fingers crossed! Again thanks everyone! Tanya --- On Tue, 7/13/10, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Maggie - to Tanya/heart supplement To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, July 13, 2010, 10:55 PM hi Tanya, my FIV boy has the exact same diagnosis (found by his going into congestive heart failure while in ear surgery) - he was diagnosed March 2009 with HCM. I give him fish oil and also Only Natural Pets Heart Health formula. (he is on 2 per day - he's 16 lbs - but only dose up with a vet's approval. ) My holistic dr approved this and told me 'don't be surprised if he gets better, and the condition starts to reverse' - my regular vet and then the cardiologist all approved the supplement. At his last ultrasound in May, his heart was showing improvement, some areas were no longer thickened, and others had not progressed further. There can be incidences where it 'looks good' but it's thickening inward now, if that makes sense, but she was surmising it was really improvement. I would check out the formula with your vet of course first. If it's too $ for your taste, read the ingredients and work with a vet to get a similiar concotion on your own. www.onlynaturalpets.com good luck! (we were told our guy was not going to make it back in 3/09 - :) he is also on enalapril - be sure to chk blood levels (kidney) regularly with this med. Shannon Hello everyone, It has been a while since I have been able to get on. I found out last month that my FelV+ Maggie who turned 2 years old 16 days ago was just diagnosed with a grade 4/6 heart murmur. She has seen many vets in her short life and has not had a detectable one previously not even 7 months ago when she had her bi-annual physical and blood work. I took her in for her physical and because lately she has had some exercise intolerance that isn't normal for a 2 year old. Her heart ultrasound gave us a diagnosis of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. Her walls were very thick and flow greatly reduced. We started he on Enalapril. I was wondering if anyone else has had the same diagnosis and if so if there was anything that worked well for your little ones. Her heart disease is progressing very quickly and I was told that with her type there isn't anything they can do to slow it down, we are only making her more comfortable with the Enalapril by making her heart not have to work as hard. Any advice is appreciated, Tanya (Maggie's Mom) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Maggie
Hello everyone, It has been a while since I have been able to get on. I found out last month that my FelV+ Maggie who turned 2 years old 16 days ago was just diagnosed with a grade 4/6 heart murmur. She has seen many vets in her short life and has not had a detectable one previously not even 7 months ago when she had her bi-annual physical and blood work. I took her in for her physical and because lately she has had some exercise intolerance that isn't normal for a 2 year old. Her heart ultrasound gave us a diagnosis of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. Her walls were very thick and flow greatly reduced. We started he on Enalapril. I was wondering if anyone else has had the same diagnosis and if so if there was anything that worked well for your little ones. Her heart disease is progressing very quickly and I was told that with her type there isn't anything they can do to slow it down, we are only making her more comfortable with the Enalapril by making her heart not have to work as hard. Any advice is appreciated, Tanya (Maggie's Mom) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felv vaccine and booster
There is no evidence of the FELV vaccine causing a cat to turn FELV positive. There is truth however to the FIV vaccine causing cats to test positive. That is why my clinic requires either tattooing or microchipping if an owner wants the FIV vaccine. Hope this helps. Tanya --- On Sat, 4/17/10, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felv vaccine and booster To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 5:00 PM I have never heard this before and have had FELV cats since 2003, and read up on it, used to more than I do now. I seriously doubt if there's any truth to it at all. Perhaps they're getting mixed up with the FIV vaccine causing a cat to TEST positive for FIV (not turn positive though). Gloria On Apr 17, 2010, at 3:42 PM, Emma Lively wrote: Is it true that the felv vaccine can cause a cat to turn positive in the future? I heard this from a friend and it shocked me because another friend has a healthy cat who received her felv vaccine and booster last year. All her pets are indoor and outdoor animals. She has 1 cat and two dogs. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] how to treat a cut in FeLV cat
If you are using Peroxide I recommend that you dilute it 50/50 with water. That is what we recommend to our clients at the Animal Hospital I work at. Peroxide can be damaging to tissue. Good luck! Tanya --- On Mon, 3/29/10, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to treat a cut in FeLV cat To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 9:27 AM Yes and only clean it once with HP. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 10:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to treat a cut in FeLV cat You know--A D Cream (not ointment) works really great too--comes in a tube-usually in baby dept at drug store. But I'd let it air out a bit after cleaning w. Peroxide. Christiane Biagi Cell: 914-720-6888 ti...@mindspring.com Volunteer-Friends of the St. Bernard Parish Animal Shelter -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 10:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to treat a cut in FeLV cat Oh, I forgot! A holistic vet recommends Calendula Gel. It heals things very quickly. I used it on an infected spay incision (cat) and cat bite (me). It's amazing. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 9:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to treat a cut in FeLV cat I generally clean the cut with Hydrogen Peroxide, poured directly on the cut. Then either antibiotic ointment or an herbal, Golden Seal powder or liquid. Gloria On Mar 28, 2010, at 7:08 PM, Linda Sollberger wrote: Hello everyone, I've been on the list for several months but haven't posted anything. My neighbor and I are taking care of 4 FeLV cats. Their mother was a stray cat in our neighborhood and had kittens in our garage. I was just trying to cut a mat out of one of them, just under her front leg, and accidentally cut her skin. I feel so bad. I've never done that before to any pet. It bled a little but its just the skin that was cut. We put some Neosporin on it and a little gauze bandage. We didn't have any gauze to wrap around the bandage to keep it on so I cut a clean Handiwipe in strips and tied it on. I'm just wondering if that's the right thing to do. Do you think I need to take her to the vet right away or can we just watch it for a few days? I don't want to stress her by taking her to the vet if I don't have to. I have 2 cats of my own and have had quite a few vet bills lately too. I don't need any more but I want to do the right thing too. How do you treat cuts in a FeLV cat? She's almost 2 years old. I'm becoming quite a worrier. We have already lost 2 of the kittens we originally had so I'm on this list to learn as much as I can. Originally my vet told us they were FIV and not FeLV but I found out too late for the first one that that's not the case. I changed vets and I have someone I can trust now. My heart and prayers go out to all of you who have lost little ones lately. I cry ever time I read about them and almost got off the list because it's so painful but I thought I better stay on to learn as much as I can. Thanks for any advice you have. Linda ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT - Anesthesia Recall - Ketemine
Thank you for passing this info. along. I printed it and took it to my work! Tanya --- On Wed, 12/23/09, Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com wrote: From: Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com Subject: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT - Anesthesia Recall - Ketemine To: Feline Lymphoma Group feline_lymph...@yahoogroups.com, felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, crf feline-crf-supp...@yahoogroups.com, Feline Heart feline-he...@yahoogroups.com, Feline Lymphoma Group feline_lymph...@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 2:29 PM This is important there is a recall on Ketamine Hydrochloride Injection Anesthesia: http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm195118.htm -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] update on Maggie's not acting normal, advice is appreciated
Well I took Maggie to the vets yesterday. Nothing out of the ordinary on physical exam other than she had a lot of stool in her and she was a bit dehydrated. Makes sense since she hasn't been drinking well. We gave her 200ml of fluids SQ and a Petema enema. She seemed a little better last night and first thing this am but she is still not drinking and hiding. She keeps doing a weird chewing motion almost as if she is chewing on her cheek. She did it last night when I was cleaning her hind end after the enema and she does it when I put water in front of her. Now she is pretty much back to the way she was before the vets. I think I am going to take her back in on Friday and request an x-ray and another set of blood work. Her blood work 2 weeks ago before she felt bad was perfect so I at least have something to compare it to. She has been off the Interferon since the 12th. Any suggestions other than rads and bloodwork? Thanks to everyone for their input. Tanya --- On Sun, 11/15/09, Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com wrote: From: Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Maggie's not acting normal, advice is appreciated To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 8:49 PM My Bailey didn't do well on the interferon either, he was lethargic and didn't eat well, he also was on the 7 on, 7 off, I finally stopped using it and he was fine for years until he passed from pancreatic cancer. Bailey was positive at 5 months of age when he found me, so pretty young too. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Maggie's not acting normal, advice is appreciated
Hello all, my Maggie now 1 year 5 months old has been Felv+ since birth. She is the kitten we adopted after testing her for everything under the sun to protect our 13 year old Sasha. She later became symptomatic (gingivitis, vomiting, diarrhea, swollen lymph nodes) and was retested and was positive. Anyway we kept her and her symptoms resolved except for the swollen lymph nodes. She has also tested positive on the IFA. Early spring she had an episode where she began hiding for a couple days, quit eating, and then began abdominal breathing. Turned out the pleural sacs around her lungs were full of fluid. She was given lasix and in a day was herself. Since then she has been a relatively healthy, happy kitty. 3 weeks ago I took her and her sister in for vaccines, exams, and blood work. They had a hard time getting blood from her (couldn't hit the vein) and she got quite stressed. The blood work was perfect and she seemed fine after we got home. We started her on Interferon a week ago. Now suddenly the last week she has been sleeping all the time under blankets (she doesn't like being covered up), not eating much (very odd for her as she is a food hound and will eat constantly if you let her), and not drinking much (she usually drinks and bathes in the pet fountain several times a day). Her temp is normal. Thursday we noticed she now is holding up her left front paw. She walks on it and the limp is mild. Any ideas? Has anyone seen any sides effects with interferon? Would it make her feel bad? I'm hesitant to run her to the Dr's. and create further stress but am really worried about her. These guys go downhill so fast sometimes I don't want to wait either. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Maggie's not acting normal, advice is appreciated
Jenny, Thanks, Maggie is to get the interferon 7 days on and 7 days off. She is on her 3rd day off. I have gotten her to eat some today but she still hasn't had anything to drink. I have given her wet food off and on all day as opposed to her dry. Wet is usually a small amount daily but I figured it has more moisture in it so... I checked out her paw this am. No sores I can see, no swollen spots, no hot areas, though she did seem tender where her toes attach. I'm torn. Don't want her to get dehydrated. Last time she was sick we almost lost her and I am nowhere near ready for that. I know we decided her quality was more important than her quantity but she is still my baby and I love her. Anyway thanks again. Tanya --- On Sun, 11/15/09, jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net wrote: From: jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Maggie's not acting normal, advice is appreciated To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 6:22 PM Hello Tanya, I can't blaim you for being nervous about odd behavior in a felv cat. Interferon can cause side effects in humans that can actually lead to cessation of treatment, they can include gastrointestinal disturbances, depression, sleep disturbances, irritability, and flu like symptoms. These are usually more mild in cats. Interferon is sometimes given three days on and three days off which can help with these side effects. The felv cat that I treatment with interferon has very mild change in appetite and energy on the days she gets the medication. With the limp, I would be concerned about infection. Inspect the paw to see if there are any swollen areas, red areas, hot areas or extremely sensitive areas. If so there is likely are infection. Usually these are fairly easly to treat with irrigation of the area and then antibiotics. Would need to see the vet for irrigation. Good luck, Jenny On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 3:04 PM, TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.comwrote: Hello all, my Maggie now 1 year 5 months old has been Felv+ since birth. She is the kitten we adopted after testing her for everything under the sun to protect our 13 year old Sasha. She later became symptomatic (gingivitis, vomiting, diarrhea, swollen lymph nodes) and was retested and was positive. Anyway we kept her and her symptoms resolved except for the swollen lymph nodes. She has also tested positive on the IFA. Early spring she had an episode where she began hiding for a couple days, quit eating, and then began abdominal breathing. Turned out the pleural sacs around her lungs were full of fluid. She was given lasix and in a day was herself. Since then she has been a relatively healthy, happy kitty. 3 weeks ago I took her and her sister in for vaccines, exams, and blood work. They had a hard time getting blood from her (couldn't hit the vein) and she got quite stressed. The blood work was perfect and she seemed fine after we got home. We started her on Interferon a week ago. Now suddenly the last week she has been sleeping all the time under blankets (she doesn't like being covered up), not eating much (very odd for her as she is a food hound and will eat constantly if you let her), and not drinking much (she usually drinks and bathes in the pet fountain several times a day). Her temp is normal. Thursday we noticed she now is holding up her left front paw. She walks on it and the limp is mild. Any ideas? Has anyone seen any sides effects with interferon? Would it make her feel bad? I'm hesitant to run her to the Dr's. and create further stress but am really worried about her. These guys go downhill so fast sometimes I don't want to wait either. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] rabies shot needed for transport?
I agree with MaryChristine. I believe it is a federal law that most states hold to strictly. We vaccinate many animals at the Vet hospital I work at for transport. It is rare that we are able to waive the vaccine. Unless there has been a previous reaction to the vaccine or your vet deems that it is unsafe due to the animals health status. Definitely check the airline rules and check with the state you are traveling to. --- On Wed, 10/14/09, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] rabies shot needed for transport? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 4:34 PM i think that it's a federal law when crossing state lines--in SOME cases, it's waivable if there's a vet's certificate, but it doesn't sound as if that the issue. i'm not sure that a titre would be acceptable--and then there's the issue that some states only accept the three-year vax, and not the one-year one. as susan says, tho, if she bites someone, they'll shoot first and then ask questions in too many cases. try looking up, interstate requirements for transporting live animals, i know the info is out there on some transport sites but darned if i can remember (anything) just which ones -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] feline leukemia virus outdoors
Cindy, The FELV virus is not hardy and cannot survive long outside the body. There is still debate over whether it lasts for hours or days on dry surfaces (though most will say hours), and obviously it will last a bit longer on a wet surface. I personally would think that 2 weeks is more than enough time for the virus to have cleared your yard. Any cat going outdoors should be vaccinated against feline leukemia which you have done so I think you would be fine. Hope this help! Tanya --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Cindy Jackson qne...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Cindy Jackson qne...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] feline leukemia virus outdoors To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 5:32 PM How long can the feline leukemia virus live outdoors? Is it safe for a healthy cat, up to date on her vaccines, including the felv vaccine, to roam and play in the same place a felv positive cat used to play, roam, pee and poop? The positive cat use to play, roam, pee and poop in my back yard (grass). This was happening less than two or three weeks ago. She is now with a best friend who adopted her from me. She was an indoor cat but I allowed her to be outdoors, only in my back yard, she didn't go anywhere else, once a day (each day). My back yard is filled with flowers, grass and tall plants. She loved my back yard. I want to let the new cat I got, who is healthy, be outdoors too. She will be an indoor cat but I want her to get fresh air once in a while. Specially now during the summer. My house gets really hot and humid. I don't have AC. Is it safe? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a Sanctuary
In PA you can try looking up the best little cat house in Pennsylvania if you decide not to keep him. They take in FELV+ cats I believe. Good luck to you. Tanya --- On Wed, 8/19/09, Donna Hotz dhotz...@gmail.com wrote: From: Donna Hotz dhotz...@gmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a Sanctuary To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 8:52 AM I live in Central New Jersey and I have a cat that showed up on my doorstep about 10 months ago. He is so super friendly that my husband and I decided that we wanted to take him in as one of our own. We took him to the vet about 3 weeks ago and he tested positive for Leukemia. We were heartbroken. We cannot take him inside due to the fact that we have 2 healthy cats inside already. The vet said that he is about 2-3 years old and in good health with the exception of testing positive for Leukemia. (by the way - he did test negative for HIV and he has been neutered) He is the sweetest cat and just wants to be petted and loved and talked to. I was out back the other back in my lounge chair and he jumped up onto my chest and wanted me to pet him, which of course I did. He is also very friendly with the neighbor children. I would love to find a safe place for him where he can get some interaction with humans as well as other cats. We have a few other cats that we feed outside and he seems to get along well with them. I need to find a safe place for him where he will be loved and cared for. We really need your help!!! Any information in the New Jersey, New York and Pennsylvania area will be helpful. Thanks! Donna ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] neurological problems?
Hello everyone, I am having some trouble with my FELV+ Maggie. She is just over a year old. Here's my problem: she is very aggressive sometimes. She will retaliate if you scold her or squirt her or even raise your voice to her. She will cock her head side to side and twitch, then she starts a weird meowing (she doesn't talk much, never has). She will jump on you and bite and rabbit punch you with her hind legs. Sometimes she will even stalk you down the hall and try to get your Achilles tendon if you don't wait her out. She seems to be getting worse to instead of better. She is also getting more aggressive with our 13 year old cat Sasha. In the beginning she followed Sasha around and seemed obsessed with her but she wasn't mean. Now she jumps on her and bites on her throat. Sasha has always avoided Maggie. She has never picked on her little sister. I think he senses that Maggie is sick and thus avoids contact. A lot of the time she will walk around now and meow very loudly and oddly. I thought she was bug chasing but most of the time I can't figure out what she is vocalizing about. She does this at night a lot. My husband and I are worried because she seems to keep getting more and more unpredictable and he is worried that she is going to hurt our 10 month old son. I spoke with some of the doctors where I work but none of them really have much FELV or aggression experience. My husband was wondering if it could be from the FELV. Does anyone know what neurologic signs would be? We are not sure what to do. I love her but can't have her hurt me and my family either. She can be such a sweet cat. Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Re OT- Tiffany, blind DUMPED cat
Kelly, have you heard anything from your vet in regards to getting this poor girl on meds yet. I can't believe any vet would keep her waiting while he calculates for this long. I am at a loss for words. Each day that goes by there could be more damage occurring. Please keep us posted. Tanya --- On Tue, 6/23/09, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Re OT- Tiffany, blind DUMPED cat To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 7:31 AM Kelly, I'm alsp very concerned about this cat. She should have gotten her meds right away, and I also believe a vet who has been practicing for that long may not be up on current treatments. All physicians and vets have to continue to read, and learn about new treatments for as long as they are in practice. Some do and others don't. They just stick with whatever they learned in vet school or med school. Lorrie On 06-22, Sharyl wrote: Kelly, I know you are waiting to hear from your primary vet but the longer the kitty goes without meds the less chance she will ever regain any of her sight. To be honest it may be to late to save her sight but the high BP needs to be addressed before any other damage occurs. Here is a link to some general info on high BP. http://www.marvistavet.com/html/high_blood_pressure.html There is a Yahoo heart group that has may be able to help with the meds and dose amounts. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-heart/ You should be able to purchase the meds at your local pharmacy with a Rx from a vet. Usually the 1st choice for cats is Amlodipine for high BP. A vet who has been practicing for over 40 yrs may not be current on what is now available for special needs kitty. If possible she needs to be seen by a specialist. Hugs to her. Sharyl ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing healthy cats into former FELV+ cat household
At my work I always recommend that things like litter boxes, scratching posts, and most toys not made of plastic be replaced regardless of FELV/FIV status. These are things that should periodically be replaced anyway for sanitary reasons. I recommend against plastic bowls for food and water as the plastic absorbs oils and can cause facial acne and other skin issues. If bowls and plates are glass, ceramic, or stainless steel I would say they're fine to use. I would say if your carrier is one of the hard plastic ones a good cleaning should suffice. Most of the information out there does say that the virus doesn't last long outside of the body though it does die faster on dry surfaces as opposed to wet. Hope this helps, good luck finding your new forever friend or friends! Tanya --- On Sat, 6/13/09, doggone...@doggonefit.com doggone...@doggonefit.com wrote: From: doggone...@doggonefit.com doggone...@doggonefit.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Introducing healthy cats into former FELV+ cat household To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 10:06 PM Hello everyone, After many years of rescuing positives, we have been a catless home for a few months and have made a difficult decision to adopt a healthy cat. Can anyone help with decisions on what should stay and what shouldn't? For example, scratching posts, cat carriers. I know there are many different opinions on how long the virus lasts, how well disinfectant work, etc. I would greatly appreciate any help! Thanks! Heidi --Original Message-- From: dlg...@windstream.net Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org ReplyTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] spaying and neutering Sent: Jun 12, 2009 9:18 PM was just on one of my bead websites and someone had asked what colors of Swarovski crystals to use to represent the different cancers (awareness ribbons). i checked it out from curosity and found that the orange ribbon 2 or 3 cancers plus CAT SPAYING AND NEUTERING. we have a ribbon to put on our cars for our furbabies. dorlis ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Sent via BlackBerry by ATT ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT - will kittens born to mom with URI have URI?
In my experience many times they do pick up the URI. URI's are very contagious. They can usually be treated with mild antibiotics a short time after birth though and are usually ok. All cases are different though. I hope they thrive and do very well. Tanya --- On Sun, 4/12/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: [Felvtalk] OT - will kittens born to mom with URI have URI? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, April 12, 2009, 3:54 PM A friend just took in a pregnant cat yesterday (she was taken to a no kill shelter this week). She thinks the cat might deliver today. She thinks she might have an URI. Does anyone know if the kittens will have or contract the URI? Thanks, Laurie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ but tested after the vaccinations were given
Kim, The Feline Leukemia vaccine cannot give cats leukemia and it does not give them a false positive. It doesn't affect the test at all. Some cats can test false positive so I would think about retesting or getting a IFA Hardy test that tells if it is in the bone marrow yet or not. Also how old is the kitten? Young animals usually under a year can sometimes shed the virus and become negative later in life. I hope this helps, good luck. Tanya --- On Thu, 4/9/09, Kim kim_ferri...@embarqmail.com wrote: From: Kim kim_ferri...@embarqmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ but tested after the vaccinations were given To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 5:17 PM Hello, I have a foster cat who tested positive to the Elisa test AFTER she was vaccinated. Do previously vaccinating a cat create a false positive when tested after the vac.s? When I got her she had all of her shots but was never tested for FeLV until I did it. Thanks! Kim ...Saving just one pet won't change the worldbut surely the world will change for that one pet... 4 Million cats are killed each year. Stop the slaughter. Spay and Neuter. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Advice on 9 month old FELV + kitty
Thanks for the advice MC. --- On Tue, 4/7/09, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Advice on 9 month old FELV + kitty To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 10:07 PM my cats, negative or positive, like a slurry of yogurt AND pumpkin. winn feline foundation just sent out something about early research on the efficacy of probiotics for cats--shows what could be expected, that they DO seem to favorably impact the immune system, but accurate dosages and compounds not yet ascertained. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Advice on 9 month old FELV + kitty
Debbie and Heather, Thanks for the reply. Maggie has had several(5-6)fecals done and one sent away to a lab as a feline diarrhea panel which cost $160 and checked for fungus, parasites, etc. All of which were normal. She has diarrhea more than she doesn't anymore. She was born in June and began having FELV symptoms in August. The diarrhea has been off and on since then. Do you know is the Fortiflora something you need to get at the vets or can I find it elsewhere? Again thanks for the advice ladies. Tanya Warner --- On Thu, 4/2/09, Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Heather furrygi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Advice on 9 month old FELV + kitty To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 10:32 AM Ditto that all, and, some Fortiflora might not be a bad idea. 2009/4/2 Debbie Harrison dlh1...@hotmail.com First off, I'd like to thank you for keeping this little one despite all of your other demands. Then, has your vet done any fecal testing? Maggie could possibly only need some antibiotic or antiparasitic... Other than that, the wonderful people here will tell you to feed her a good quality diet and keep her life as stress free as possible. Your kitten could conceiveably live a good, long life. Best of luck to you and your family. Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 07:05:57 -0700 From: sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Advice on 9 month old FELV + kitty I am sure you have covered this a thousand times but I haven't been on here all that long and am very far behind on reading the emails. I have a newborn and work and times get hectic, sorry. We adopted a kitten that after a neg test later turned out to be pos. We love her so we are keeping her. The clinics around us usually recommend euthanasia and don't have a ton of experience treating pos cats. We have a neg cat 12 years old as well. My problem is that Maggie goes through boughts of what I call horribly smelly Pancake batter poops. They are very watery and smell very foul. During these times she acts as though she is not feeling well ( I wouldn't either if that came out of my bottom). I would like to know what stuff seems to work best and what stuff to avoid. I asked my vet about interferon to build immune, she didn't seem very knowledgeable about it but prescribed it anyway. Seems like the diarrhea has been worse since she got on it and it is $40 plus shipping a month. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I hate seeing her miserable. Thanks, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ More than messages–check out the rest of the Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Advice on 9 month old FELV + kitty
I am sure you have covered this a thousand times but I haven't been on here all that long and am very far behind on reading the emails. I have a newborn and work and times get hectic, sorry. We adopted a kitten that after a neg test later turned out to be pos. We love her so we are keeping her. The clinics around us usually recommend euthanasia and don't have a ton of experience treating pos cats. We have a neg cat 12 years old as well. My problem is that Maggie goes through boughts of what I call horribly smelly Pancake batter poops. They are very watery and smell very foul. During these times she acts as though she is not feeling well ( I wouldn't either if that came out of my bottom). I would like to know what stuff seems to work best and what stuff to avoid. I asked my vet about interferon to build immune, she didn't seem very knowledgeable about it but prescribed it anyway. Seems like the diarrhea has been worse since she got on it and it is $40 plus shipping a month. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I hate seeing her miserable. Thanks, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone else on Facebook?
Hello I am on facebook. Tanya Warner --- On Thu, 3/26/09, Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com wrote: From: Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone else on Facebook? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009, 12:13 PM I'm on facebook Kelley. Just got on, not real familiar with it yet and don't have a lot of time to do anything with it. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FelV vaccine for FelV positive cats?
At the clinic where I work we only usually give positive cats the distemper portion. The FELV portion is of no value good or bad to a positive cat. In fact it is yet another vaccine component the cats body must deal with. Hope this heps. Tanya --- On Thu, 2/19/09, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV vaccine for FelV positive cats? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 4:33 PM Hi, Gloria, Let me get this straightYour vet vaccinated FelV positive cats with the FelV vaccine to deal with FelV. I understood that once a cat was FelV positive the vaccine was not going to change it's status, and the cat would still remain positive. Does anyone else know anything about this? Lorrie On 02-19, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: Sorry, didn't see your message till today. I've had 10 or 15 FELV cats over the last 6 years. I have 5 now. Two of the current cats, Oliver and Chloe, came from a lady in Oklahoma who had to give them up because of family problems. Her vet there vaccinated them regularly against FELV, as a way to deal with the FELV. I'd never heard of that, always believed that was not appropriate. HOWEVER - these are the only FELV cats I've had that live beyond 10 years old. Go figure. had that live beyond 10 years old. Go figure. Anyhow - I also have a friend with 1 FELV and 1 non-FELV cat who are great buddies, had them since they were kittens. She's kept the FELV cat on interferon daily, and they're doing great - now beyond 4 years old, no problems. She's had them tested once or twice - the FELV- cat stays negative. Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Our scare with Maggie last night 2-10
I'm not sure i my other went out or not. I included a pic of our Maggie and it got bounced. Never heard back about it. So here it is again. So we adopted a kitten back in early August named Maggie. About 6 weeks or so after we brought her home she began having some problems with gingivitis, sneezing and swollen lymph nodes. We took her in and had her retested for feline leukemia. She tested positive, we then waited 12 weeks and tested again). We were heartbroken. We decided to keep her because we love her and she deserves to live even though most vets recommend euthanasia. As long as her quality of life is good she will always have a home with us! We had another test (IFA) done on her to see if she was one of the lucky kittens who can fight off the disease before it sets into the bone marrow, but no luck she had a very strong positive. Anyway we boostered our other cat Sasha's vaccines since it can be contagious and decided to let it be in God's hands. Yesterday 2-10 we had a terrible scare with her. She had been kind of hiding like she didn't feel well all weekend and then she stopped eating, drinking, and going to the bathroom Saturday night. Yesterday morning she was very lethargic and had really labored breathing so I took her to my work at the animal hospital. Her blood pressure was so low we barely got any blood for a panel and xrays showed heavy congestion around her lungs. Typical for a FELV cat. The doctor didn't give us much hope. She said that even if she could fight off the infection the hard part is getting the to eat and drink again. Around 9 pm we talked about taking her to the animal emergency center because her breathing was so bad but decided to see if she would make it through the night and if so take her first thing in the morning. I really thought she wouldn't make it through the night. We started her on Lasix last night and this morning she was bright, alert, and my normal happy little girl. She started eating and drinking again. She is using her litter box and her breathing is almost perfectly normal again. It is nothing short of a miracle, even her vet is amazed. Go Maggie!! God isn't ready for her to chase mice in heaven yet, she has plenty left to catch right here! I am so thankful that she is pulling through. She is too young for her life here on earth to be over. Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Spaying/neutering of FelV cats
My vet said that most FELV cats do fine after spaying. There is some risk but there is some risk for all spays. She said they are more likely to have problems from not being spayed than from the spay itself. Tanya --- On Tue, 2/10/09, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Spaying/neutering of FelV cats To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 5:08 PM I have had two FelV pos. kittens neutered at 6 months with no problems, but of course a spay is a much more invasive proceedure. I will be interested in knowing what others on the list have done. Lorrie On 02-10, Marci Greer wrote: Hi All, I have a FELV+ kitty, Maddie 3 yrs old who came as a stray to us in October 2008, she is strictly indoors now, she is on interferon, and she is eating well, gaining weight, playing, lovable, etc. She has not been spayed, My vet who wanted to put her to sleep in October just because she was positive, which of course I did not do, told me not to have her spayed it could stress her and she would die, another vet told me to have her spayed. I don't know what to do, looking at her you would never even know that she was sick. Any advice? I love her so much and I don't want to do anything that may harm her. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.
We adopted our cat Maggie when she was 8 weeks or so old. She was a happy healthy kitten until about 6-7 weeks later. She had gingivitis and diarrhea and her lymph nodes were the size of large grapes. We had he tested ( she was tested before we brought her home and she was negative) she tested positive this time on the ELISA test. We immediately tested our 12 year old cat Sasha and she was negative. 12 weeks later we tested her again and she was still positive so we had an IFA test done to see if it had progressed into her bone marrow. Sad to say it has, it was a very strong positive. We feed her soft food by pro plan and hard purina kitten chow. Our cats are strictly indoors. She lives with Sasha still who thank God is still negative. Maggie's main symptoms are diarrhea (lots of diarrhea), sneezing, vomiting, swollen lymph nodes, painful gums/teeth. She seems happy and as long as that is the case she will continue to have a home here with us no matter how many messes I have to clean up a week. She takes Tylan powder for her diarrhea which seems to help alot. Her vet is not that experienced at dealing with FELV positive cats so I have been getting alot of ideas from everyone's emails. Hope this helps Tanya --- On Fri, 2/6/09, amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp wrote: From: amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 6:01 AM Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present and or past FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey to better understand the illness and how everything effects it, I would be really grateful if you all could participate! AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but your time in answering would be really appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good health to you and your fur babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] vaccine
Hello, I am a veterinary Technician and I see a lot of reactions to the leukemia vaccine. Next time ask your vet about giving your cat an antihistamine an hour before the vaccine. Hope this helps Tanya --- On Wed, 2/4/09, Lynne menar...@cogeco.ca wrote: From: Lynne menar...@cogeco.ca Subject: [Felvtalk] vaccine To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 9:56 PM Hi, I'm just curious if any of you had any problems with the feline leukemia vaccine. We had to take our Snowball to the vet on Sunday and decided to have her vaccinated. My husband took her back today because she has been lethargic and out of character for three days. The vet said it could be the vaccine and for whatever reason gave her a shot of prednisone. Lynne ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
