Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Some of us are just denser than gold. Five of 7 tested positive for FeLV in March 2010 on in-house test. Issac, a positive, crashed in February. Vet had said to retest in a year. Do we now do the IFA or ELISA on everyone? Vet had vaccinated and given boosters to everyone at that time. We have switched from that vet. Today vet said should do in-office test on positives. Earlier this week some of you had kindly commented re: poisoning possibilities for changes in pupils of unclaimed cats who dine at restaurants. This vet said Henry's pupils were result of calcivirus or herpes virus post stress of neutering in September. I have known him since July 2010. He has never had runny eyes or pussy eyes or ocular discharge or respiratory symptoms. There is a word for people unknown to each other who work on a project together for a Supreme Power. You truly keep me on the planet. Blessed Be czadna m Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:26:53 -0700 From: jgonza...@pacbell.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I realize now that I did not address the concern you posted about. I felt the need to educate you about the testing protocol for FELV because I would hate to see you cage a cat for 3 months that may not even be infected with the virus. You cannot consider a cat persistently viremic until they test positive on the IFA test. If it turns out the cat you rescued is really FELV positive, she is not going to transmit the virus to your other cats through some chance encounter. It would take prolonged contact with your other cats to infect them with the virus. Even if they had prolonged contact, it does not mean your other cats would get the virus. Some cats are able to build an immune response and fight off the virus. I rescued a cat over the summer that tested positive on the combo snap test and the ELISA test but tested negative on the IFA. Thirty days later, he tested negative on the snap test, the ELISA test and continued to test negative on the IFA test. As a precaution, we tested again 30 days later, and he continued to test negative on all three tests. His body built an immune defense and fought off the virus --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 1:50 PM Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so any comments or ideas are much appreciated. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
May be the term should be hearts of gold instead of denser No clue on the testing. I have been blessed with one beautiful FeLV+ (Dixie Louise Doodle Katt, JP) and have several ferals of unknown status (it just doesn't matter at this point). Suggest you check the difference in cost and realize you may have to go to the next level whether you use the office test or not.Also consider some of the supplements others may offer. One of the ferals has runny eyes but it seems to be the result of a fungus I am trying to treatreally fun with a non-compliant cat with four friends.:))) Blessings to you for caring. Continue to be concerned about poison...I am terrified about the cat that ate the mouse that ate the. On Apr 2, 2011, at 3:55 PM, czadna sacarawicz wrote: Some of us are just denser than gold. Five of 7 tested positive for FeLV in March 2010 on in-house test. Issac, a positive, crashed in February. Vet had said to retest in a year. Do we now do the IFA or ELISA on everyone? Vet had vaccinated and given boosters to everyone at that time. We have switched from that vet. Today vet said should do in-office test on positives. Earlier this week some of you had kindly commented re: poisoning possibilities for changes in pupils of unclaimed cats who dine at restaurants. This vet said Henry's pupils were result of calcivirus or herpes virus post stress of neutering in September. I have known him since July 2010. He has never had runny eyes or pussy eyes or ocular discharge or respiratory symptoms. There is a word for people unknown to each other who work on a project together for a Supreme Power. You truly keep me on the planet. Blessed Be czadna m Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:26:53 -0700 From: jgonza...@pacbell.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I realize now that I did not address the concern you posted about. I felt the need to educate you about the testing protocol for FELV because I would hate to see you cage a cat for 3 months that may not even be infected with the virus. You cannot consider a cat persistently viremic until they test positive on the IFA test. If it turns out the cat you rescued is really FELV positive, she is not going to transmit the virus to your other cats through some chance encounter. It would take prolonged contact with your other cats to infect them with the virus. Even if they had prolonged contact, it does not mean your other cats would get the virus. Some cats are able to build an immune response and fight off the virus. I rescued a cat over the summer that tested positive on the combo snap test and the ELISA test but tested negative on the IFA. Thirty days later, he tested negative on the snap test, the ELISA test and continued to test negative on the IFA test. As a precaution, we tested again 30 days later, and he continued to test negative on all three tests. His body built an immune defense and fought off the virus --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 1:50 PM Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so any comments or ideas are much appreciated. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Now I have a question and need advice. My rescue just took in a mama cat and 4 young kittens that are still nursing. Just our luck the mama cat tested positive for FeLV. My recommendation was not to put any of them down, but to wait a few months to see what happens. Maybe the mama cat can kick the virus. My question is about the kittens. I know they have probably already gotten the virus from the mama cat, but is there any chance at all that they haven't gotten it? One vet said maybe we should separate the kittens from the mama just in case they haven't picked the virus up yet. What do you guys think? Would that be possible - for them not to have it already, I mean? I know since the kittens are only about 4 weeks old their chances aren't too good but we want to do the best we can for them and save them if possible. We've got people that can bottle feed if they need to be taken from the mom. But I don't want to separate them if there's no point to it. What do you guys think? Also, seems like I've heard you guys mentioning vitamins. Was it B vitamins? Would that be a good idea for the mama cat? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:39:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). Diane R. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
If your vet did the FELV/FIV combo snap test on the mother, beware as this test can produce false positive readings due to cross-reactivity. Please test her via ELISA sent to the lab and if that comes back positive, test via IFA. Or, you can go straight to the IFA test. --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 2:27 PM Now I have a question and need advice. My rescue just took in a mama cat and 4 young kittens that are still nursing. Just our luck the mama cat tested positive for FeLV. My recommendation was not to put any of them down, but to wait a few months to see what happens. Maybe the mama cat can kick the virus. My question is about the kittens. I know they have probably already gotten the virus from the mama cat, but is there any chance at all that they haven't gotten it? One vet said maybe we should separate the kittens from the mama just in case they haven't picked the virus up yet. What do you guys think? Would that be possible - for them not to have it already, I mean? I know since the kittens are only about 4 weeks old their chances aren't too good but we want to do the best we can for them and save them if possible. We've got people that can bottle feed if they need to be taken from the mom. But I don't want to separate them if there's no point to it. What do you guys think? Also, seems like I've heard you guys mentioning vitamins. Was it B vitamins? Would that be a good idea for the mama cat? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:39:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). Diane R. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
A, good point. Hadn't thought about that. Would we get the results of those tests pretty quick? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:40:00 -0700 From: jgonza...@pacbell.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. If your vet did the FELV/FIV combo snap test on the mother, beware as this test can produce false positive readings due to cross-reactivity. Please test her via ELISA sent to the lab and if that comes back positive, test via IFA. Or, you can go straight to the IFA test. --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 2:27 PM Now I have a question and need advice. My rescue just took in a mama cat and 4 young kittens that are still nursing. Just our luck the mama cat tested positive for FeLV. My recommendation was not to put any of them down, but to wait a few months to see what happens. Maybe the mama cat can kick the virus. My question is about the kittens. I know they have probably already gotten the virus from the mama cat, but is there any chance at all that they haven't gotten it? One vet said maybe we should separate the kittens from the mama just in case they haven't picked the virus up yet. What do you guys think? Would that be possible - for them not to have it already, I mean? I know since the kittens are only about 4 weeks old their chances aren't too good but we want to do the best we can for them and save them if possible. We've got people that can bottle feed if they need to be taken from the mom. But I don't want to separate them if there's no point to it. What do you guys think? Also, seems like I've heard you guys mentioning vitamins. Was it B vitamins? Would that be a good idea for the mama cat? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:39:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). Diane R. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Yes. Both tests are usually back in 24 hours. --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 2:46 PM A, good point. Hadn't thought about that. Would we get the results of those tests pretty quick? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:40:00 -0700 From: jgonza...@pacbell.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. If your vet did the FELV/FIV combo snap test on the mother, beware as this test can produce false positive readings due to cross-reactivity. Please test her via ELISA sent to the lab and if that comes back positive, test via IFA. Or, you can go straight to the IFA test. --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 2:27 PM Now I have a question and need advice. My rescue just took in a mama cat and 4 young kittens that are still nursing. Just our luck the mama cat tested positive for FeLV. My recommendation was not to put any of them down, but to wait a few months to see what happens. Maybe the mama cat can kick the virus. My question is about the kittens. I know they have probably already gotten the virus from the mama cat, but is there any chance at all that they haven't gotten it? One vet said maybe we should separate the kittens from the mama just in case they haven't picked the virus up yet. What do you guys think? Would that be possible - for them not to have it already, I mean? I know since the kittens are only about 4 weeks old their chances aren't too good but we want to do the best we can for them and save them if possible. We've got people that can bottle feed if they need to be taken from the mom. But I don't want to separate them if there's no point to it. What do you guys think? Also, seems like I've heard you guys mentioning vitamins. Was it B vitamins? Would that be a good idea for the mama cat? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:39:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). Diane R. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Maureen, the kittens are probably already FeLV+. I would separate them from the Momma cat. They are old enough to eat canned kitten food mixed with a little warm water and KMR. When I rescued a momma a litter of 4 all were positive. The kittens lived 12-14 months. Momma lived for 4 yrs. But they had a good life for as long as they were with me. I tried B12, folic acid, brewers yeast, L-lysine and Mega C. Didn't help my kittens but yours could be different. Thank you for taking this family in. Be sure to spay the Momma immediately. Sharyl --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Maureen Olive molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 5:27 PM Now I have a question and need advice. My rescue just took in a mama cat and 4 young kittens that are still nursing. Just our luck the mama cat tested positive for FeLV. My recommendation was not to put any of them down, but to wait a few months to see what happens. Maybe the mama cat can kick the virus. My question is about the kittens. I know they have probably already gotten the virus from the mama cat, but is there any chance at all that they haven't gotten it? One vet said maybe we should separate the kittens from the mama just in case they haven't picked the virus up yet. What do you guys think? Would that be possible - for them not to have it already, I mean? I know since the kittens are only about 4 weeks old their chances aren't too good but we want to do the best we can for them and save them if possible. We've got people that can bottle feed if they need to be taken from the mom. But I don't want to separate them if there's no point to it. What do you guys think? Also, seems like I've heard you guys mentioning vitamins. Was it B vitamins? Would that be a good idea for the mama cat? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:39:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). Diane R. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Why are you thinking I should go ahead and separate them from mama cat? Is that so her milk will hurry and dry up so we can get her spayed or is there another reason? Oh, there's another foster that has the family right now. I'm hoping to keep it that way! I thought I would be able to get out of fostering since I found out one of my kitties had FeLV. As much as I love fostering I was looking forward to a break. I had already told the rest of the board that I wouldn't be able to foster anymore. Figures we'd take in a FeLV + kitty right after my discovery. Somehow I have a feeling that at some point I'll end up with the family. So much for taking a break from fostering! Actually, I'd rather take a break from work not fostering but that's not an option. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:58:37 -0700 From: cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Maureen, the kittens are probably already FeLV+. I would separate them from the Momma cat. They are old enough to eat canned kitten food mixed with a little warm water and KMR. When I rescued a momma a litter of 4 all were positive. The kittens lived 12-14 months. Momma lived for 4 yrs. But they had a good life for as long as they were with me. I tried B12, folic acid, brewers yeast, L-lysine and Mega C. Didn't help my kittens but yours could be different. Thank you for taking this family in. Be sure to spay the Momma immediately. Sharyl --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Maureen Olive molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 5:27 PM Now I have a question and need advice. My rescue just took in a mama cat and 4 young kittens that are still nursing. Just our luck the mama cat tested positive for FeLV. My recommendation was not to put any of them down, but to wait a few months to see what happens. Maybe the mama cat can kick the virus. My question is about the kittens. I know they have probably already gotten the virus from the mama cat, but is there any chance at all that they haven't gotten it? One vet said maybe we should separate the kittens from the mama just in case they haven't picked the virus up yet. What do you guys think? Would that be possible - for them not to have it already, I mean? I know since the kittens are only about 4 weeks old their chances aren't too good but we want to do the best we can for them and save them if possible. We've got people that can bottle feed if they need to be taken from the mom. But I don't want to separate them if there's no point to it. What do you guys think? Also, seems like I've heard you guys mentioning vitamins. Was it B vitamins? Would that be a good idea for the mama cat? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:39:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). Diane R. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Since it takes 2 to 4 weeks after exposure for the virus to circulate in the bloodstream, chances are that the kittens are infected if the mother cat is truly infected with the virus. You will not know if the mother is truly infected with the virus until you do more testing. You can test for FELV at any age so if you want to know if the kittens have the virus, have them tested for FELV. If it were me, I would test the mother cat via the ELISA test sent to the lab, then do the IFA test. Many of us in rescue have and continue to get false positive readings for the FELV/FIV snap combo test. I see absolutely no reason to separate the kittens from their mother. If mom is infected, then it is likely that kittens have been exposed to the virus since birth or in-vitro. --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 2:27 PM Now I have a question and need advice. My rescue just took in a mama cat and 4 young kittens that are still nursing. Just our luck the mama cat tested positive for FeLV. My recommendation was not to put any of them down, but to wait a few months to see what happens. Maybe the mama cat can kick the virus. My question is about the kittens. I know they have probably already gotten the virus from the mama cat, but is there any chance at all that they haven't gotten it? One vet said maybe we should separate the kittens from the mama just in case they haven't picked the virus up yet. What do you guys think? Would that be possible - for them not to have it already, I mean? I know since the kittens are only about 4 weeks old their chances aren't too good but we want to do the best we can for them and save them if possible. We've got people that can bottle feed if they need to be taken from the mom. But I don't want to separate them if there's no point to it. What do you guys think? Also, seems like I've heard you guys mentioning vitamins. Was it B vitamins? Would that be a good idea for the mama cat? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:39:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). Diane R. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Yeah, I figured there's a 99% chance the kittens have already gotten enough exposure to the virus to catch it. I did recommend the other tests though like you said. Are the tests very expensive? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 15:16:38 -0700 From: jgonza...@pacbell.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Since it takes 2 to 4 weeks after exposure for the virus to circulate in the bloodstream, chances are that the kittens are infected if the mother cat is truly infected with the virus. You will not know if the mother is truly infected with the virus until you do more testing. You can test for FELV at any age so if you want to know if the kittens have the virus, have them tested for FELV. If it were me, I would test the mother cat via the ELISA test sent to the lab, then do the IFA test. Many of us in rescue have and continue to get false positive readings for the FELV/FIV snap combo test. I see absolutely no reason to separate the kittens from their mother. If mom is infected, then it is likely that kittens have been exposed to the virus since birth or in-vitro. --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 2:27 PM Now I have a question and need advice. My rescue just took in a mama cat and 4 young kittens that are still nursing. Just our luck the mama cat tested positive for FeLV. My recommendation was not to put any of them down, but to wait a few months to see what happens. Maybe the mama cat can kick the virus. My question is about the kittens. I know they have probably already gotten the virus from the mama cat, but is there any chance at all that they haven't gotten it? One vet said maybe we should separate the kittens from the mama just in case they haven't picked the virus up yet. What do you guys think? Would that be possible - for them not to have it already, I mean? I know since the kittens are only about 4 weeks old their chances aren't too good but we want to do the best we can for them and save them if possible. We've got people that can bottle feed if they need to be taken from the mom. But I don't want to separate them if there's no point to it. What do you guys think? Also, seems like I've heard you guys mentioning vitamins. Was it B vitamins? Would that be a good idea for the mama cat? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:39:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). Diane R. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Chances are, if she was positive when they were born, they've got it. Taking them away wouldn't make any difference. I don't see any point, and they're too young to test; at a very young age, there are too many false positives. Poor family! I would definitely give mama Vitamin C and CoQ10 - vegetarian type at GNC is in powder form, open capsule and add to her food. With Vitamin C, start small amounts and build up not to cause diarrhea. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 5:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Now I have a question and need advice. My rescue just took in a mama cat and 4 young kittens that are still nursing. Just our luck the mama cat tested positive for FeLV. My recommendation was not to put any of them down, but to wait a few months to see what happens. Maybe the mama cat can kick the virus. My question is about the kittens. I know they have probably already gotten the virus from the mama cat, but is there any chance at all that they haven't gotten it? One vet said maybe we should separate the kittens from the mama just in case they haven't picked the virus up yet. What do you guys think? Would that be possible - for them not to have it already, I mean? I know since the kittens are only about 4 weeks old their chances aren't too good but we want to do the best we can for them and save them if possible. We've got people that can bottle feed if they need to be taken from the mom. But I don't want to separate them if there's no point to it. What do you guys think? Also, seems like I've heard you guys mentioning vitamins. Was it B vitamins? Would that be a good idea for the mama cat? I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark Twain From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:39:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). Diane R. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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It depends on the vet and what they charge. I am in Los Angeles and most of the vets I know of charge about $100 for the IFA and about $50 or $60 for the ELISA test sent to the lab. I would assume your rescue group has a vet where they can get a discount. Our rescue group pays $80 for the IFA and $27 for the ELISA sent to the lab. I hope your rescue group is not considering euthanasia if the mom and kits test positive. What city are you in? --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 3:24 PM Yeah, I figured there's a 99% chance the kittens have already gotten enough exposure to the virus to catch it. I did recommend the other tests though like you said. Are the tests very expensive? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 15:16:38 -0700 From: jgonza...@pacbell.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Since it takes 2 to 4 weeks after exposure for the virus to circulate in the bloodstream, chances are that the kittens are infected if the mother cat is truly infected with the virus. You will not know if the mother is truly infected with the virus until you do more testing. You can test for FELV at any age so if you want to know if the kittens have the virus, have them tested for FELV. If it were me, I would test the mother cat via the ELISA test sent to the lab, then do the IFA test. Many of us in rescue have and continue to get false positive readings for the FELV/FIV snap combo test. I see absolutely no reason to separate the kittens from their mother. If mom is infected, then it is likely that kittens have been exposed to the virus since birth or in-vitro. --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 2:27 PM Now I have a question and need advice. My rescue just took in a mama cat and 4 young kittens that are still nursing. Just our luck the mama cat tested positive for FeLV. My recommendation was not to put any of them down, but to wait a few months to see what happens. Maybe the mama cat can kick the virus. My question is about the kittens. I know they have probably already gotten the virus from the mama cat, but is there any chance at all that they haven't gotten it? One vet said maybe we should separate the kittens from the mama just in case they haven't picked the virus up yet. What do you guys think? Would that be possible - for them not to have it already, I mean? I know since the kittens are only about 4 weeks old their chances aren't too good but we want to do the best we can for them and save them if possible. We've got people that can bottle feed if they need to be taken from the mom. But I don't want to separate them if there's no point to it. What do you guys think? Also, seems like I've heard you guys mentioning vitamins. Was it B vitamins? Would that be a good idea for the mama cat? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:39:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). Diane R. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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That's what I was thinking the IFA costs. That's not bad at all. Definitely worth it. I live on the outskirts of Atlanta. In the old days I think our group would have considered euthanasia but since me and some other folks have been around they are more open-minded and don't listen to the vets. I'm kind of a b and always speak my mind about doing research and not trusting everything the vet says. I've gotten burned that way when I had my Basset Hound. When I first started with the humane society I was only working with ferals and strays. I got tired of people telling me that any cat that tested positive for FIV or FeLV one time should be put down without question. They were saying that even the tame ones that I found in my feral colonies should be put down and not taken in and fostered. And oh God, if one cat had an injury, even just a small injury that got a little infected, and the cat had FIV some vets said that it would never heal so I should just go ahead and put the cat down. Even if the cat belonged to someone else they'd say that. Another lady and I started doing research and webinars and going to shelter medicine seminars to be more informed. Funny how a little knowledge can make some big changes. Still though, if they are all definitely positive there will be some challenges. We don't have a lot of foster homes and I can't think of any that would take these guys in to give them a forever home. I told one lady her and I would be taking a road trip to find a sanctuary for them. I don't think there's a place in GA that takes in FeLV cats. I really don't know what we'll do. I'm probably the only one willing to take them in but I've got so many cats already that won't be able to be adopted because they've been exposed to FeLV that I'd rather not take anymore. But, I'm such a sucker that if it came to it I'd end up taking them versus putting them down. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 15:35:20 -0700 From: jgonza...@pacbell.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. It depends on the vet and what they charge. I am in Los Angeles and most of the vets I know of charge about $100 for the IFA and about $50 or $60 for the ELISA test sent to the lab. I would assume your rescue group has a vet where they can get a discount. Our rescue group pays $80 for the IFA and $27 for the ELISA sent to the lab. I hope your rescue group is not considering euthanasia if the mom and kits test positive. What city are you in? --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 3:24 PM Yeah, I figured there's a 99% chance the kittens have already gotten enough exposure to the virus to catch it. I did recommend the other tests though like you said. Are the tests very expensive? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 15:16:38 -0700 From: jgonza...@pacbell.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Since it takes 2 to 4 weeks after exposure for the virus to circulate in the bloodstream, chances are that the kittens are infected if the mother cat is truly infected with the virus. You will not know if the mother is truly infected with the virus until you do more testing. You can test for FELV at any age so if you want to know if the kittens have the virus, have them tested for FELV. If it were me, I would test the mother cat via the ELISA test sent to the lab, then do the IFA test. Many of us in rescue have and continue to get false positive readings for the FELV/FIV snap combo test. I see absolutely no reason to separate the kittens from their mother. If mom is infected, then it is likely that kittens have been exposed to the virus since birth or in-vitro. --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 2:27 PM Now I have a question and need advice. My rescue just took in a mama cat and 4 young kittens that are still nursing. Just our luck the mama cat tested
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
I know the costs for felv and fiv cats CAN be high, but why not take a chance for their sake. My 2 felv positive girls are amoung the healthiest of my 7 and none of my other girls and 1 boy have contracted it from them. Plus my vet said that it is possible they were exposesd just before I got them and developed an immunity to it, but that now they will always test positive because of the exposure. Annie was 4 when I got her and Nitnoy was around 1 or 2. They were both highly stressed: Nitnoy had her tail bitten off by a raccoon and Annie lost her person to liver cancer and was islolated in a trailer for 21 days. That would be enough to lower anyone's immunity. Now, all we have to do is keep the negatives up to date on their shots just in case Annie or Nitnoy would bite them. Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: That's what I was thinking the IFA costs. That's not bad at all. Definitely worth it. I live on the outskirts of Atlanta. In the old days I think our group would have considered euthanasia but since me and some other folks have been around they are more open-minded and don't listen to the vets. I'm kind of a b and always speak my mind about doing research and not trusting everything the vet says. I've gotten burned that way when I had my Basset Hound. When I first started with the humane society I was only working with ferals and strays. I got tired of people telling me that any cat that tested positive for FIV or FeLV one time should be put down without question. They were saying that even the tame ones that I found in my feral colonies should be put down and not taken in and fostered. And oh God, if one cat had an injury, even just a small injury that got a little infected, and the cat had FIV some vets said that it would never heal so I should just go ahead and put the cat down. Even if the cat belonged to someone else they'd say that. Another lady and I started doing research and webinars and going to shelter medicine seminars to be more informed. Funny how a little knowledge can make some big changes. Still though, if they are all definitely positive there will be some challenges. We don't have a lot of foster homes and I can't think of any that would take these guys in to give them a forever home. I told one lady her and I would be taking a road trip to find a sanctuary for them. I don't think there's a place in GA that takes in FeLV cats. I really don't know what we'll do. I'm probably the only one willing to take them in but I've got so many cats already that won't be able to be adopted because they've been exposed to FeLV that I'd rather not take anymore. But, I'm such a sucker that if it came to it I'd end up taking them versus putting them down. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 15:35:20 -0700 From: jgonza...@pacbell.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. It depends on the vet and what they charge. I am in Los Angeles and most of the vets I know of charge about $100 for the IFA and about $50 or $60 for the ELISA test sent to the lab. I would assume your rescue group has a vet where they can get a discount. Our rescue group pays $80 for the IFA and $27 for the ELISA sent to the lab. I hope your rescue group is not considering euthanasia if the mom and kits test positive. What city are you in? --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 3:24 PM Yeah, I figured there's a 99% chance the kittens have already gotten enough exposure to the virus to catch it. I did recommend the other tests though like you said. Are the tests very expensive? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 15:16:38 -0700 From: jgonza...@pacbell.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Since it takes 2 to 4 weeks after exposure for the virus to circulate in the bloodstream, chances are that the kittens are infected if the mother cat is truly infected with the virus. You will not know if the mother is truly infected with the virus until you do more
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Our cats prefer the organic dried catnip - they eat it! They pay no attention to the spray at all. In fact, even our dog loves the dried catnip (has anyone heard that before?). I place the small toys into a jar of catnip, that way there's always a scent on them, and recycle the toys - in and out of the jar. There are some cats that don't respond to catnip at all, and some cats don't playand the ones that don't, usually end up finding their own toys like bottle caps, toilet paper rolls, etc. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 5:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Find a feather...maybe at a hobby storetease her gently. Also try a catnip spray (forget the powdered stuff) and Feliway. Oh yeah, my boys just reminded me that paper sacks are wonderful. It is always painful when they leave but, if it wasn't, they would mean nothing. On Mar 16, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Jannes Taylor wrote: Thanks, Bonnie, Yes, Amber and I have a connection now but I am very tender hearted and know it will be painful if her health gets bad. We had to have our Great Dane put down five years ago and I STILL get teary eyed about that. He had cardio myothapy and an parasitic infection. It does warm my heart to see Amber safe, well fed, and adjusting to her new surroundings. She won't play yet, but maybe that will come.. Jannes From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 3:12:40 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Jannes You will get (if you haven't already) loads of really great and helpful advice from this group. Personally, I would say, if you have a heart-connection with Amber (which it certainly seems you do) and you are willing to help her enjoy whatever life she had on earth, Go For It! You may be pleasantly surprised by the outcome. And Amber surely will be! Peace, Bonnie - Original Message - From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so any comments or ideas are much appreciated. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Sorry, I forgot to mention our three dogs that died - we are on our fourth one now since we got married in 1968, although we vowed to stick to cats. We found her when she was a teeny 2-month old, 4-lb puppy on the street in MexicoShe thinks that she's a cat. No, one never forgets - it's like a video going off in your mind, reliving all the details. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 6:00 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I can relate to that! I've had quite a few cats in my 52 years. You never really forget no matter how long it has been. Jannes From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 4:30:13 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. You're among like-minded people in this group - just this afternoon, I was sitting with a few cats in my lap, a dog next to me, watching the horrors happening in Japan. I looked over at one of our cats who looks just like our old Houdini who die in Novembersuddenly, I started tearfully remembering details of almost ALL the cats that have died in my lifetimenow, I have a headache. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 4:56 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Thanks, Bonnie, Yes, Amber and I have a connection now but I am very tender hearted and know it will be painful if her health gets bad. We had to have our Great Dane put down five years ago and I STILL get teary eyed about that. He had cardio myothapy and an parasitic infection. It does warm my heart to see Amber safe, well fed, and adjusting to her new surroundings. She won't play yet, but maybe that will come.. Jannes From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 3:12:40 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Jannes You will get (if you haven't already) loads of really great and helpful advice from this group. Personally, I would say, if you have a heart-connection with Amber (which it certainly seems you do) and you are willing to help her enjoy whatever life she had on earth, Go For It! You may be pleasantly surprised by the outcome. And Amber surely will be! Peace, Bonnie - Original Message - From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so any comments or ideas are much appreciated. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo
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I recently had a FelV female spayed and she came thru the proceedure just fine. I too was afraid to do it, but I'm glad I did as she is a happier cat. Lorrie On 03-15, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). Diane R. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Cats do develop a type of natural immunity to FeLV after the age of one, so cats that are over 3 are less likely to develop FelV even if they are not vaccinated. Add the vaccine and they are even less likely to get it. This is most likely why so many of us have had such good lick with mixing our kids. Tanya --- On Tue, 3/15/11, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 10:37 AM I worked a hoarding case with 26 unvaccinated cats. 3 of them turned out to be FeLV positive. We quarantined the remaining cats for 6 months none showed up FeLV positive after the 6 months. I was amazed. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 10:48 PM My FIV cat has never been vaccinated against FeLV which is why I assumed he would get it from the other kitty. Doesn't make sense. Oh well, I'm glad he didn't get it. Maureen To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org From: create_me_...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 02:26:16 + Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. My FIV cat lived on and off for 10 years with FeLV cats never got it. Of coarse he was vaccinated. Beth Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:18:40 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Matter of fact, I have an FIV + cat living with me that hasn't contracted the FeLV. I'm not quite sure how that has happened because he should have gotten it right away. I'm going to have him tested a couple more times over the next few months to be sure. Maybe FeLV isn't as contagious as they say. I'm still shaking my head on that one. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:26:53 -0700 From: jgonza...@pacbell.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I realize now that I did not address the concern you posted about. I felt the need to educate you about the testing protocol for FELV because I would hate to see you cage a cat for 3 months that may not even be infected with the virus. You cannot consider a cat persistently viremic until they test positive on the IFA test. If it turns out the cat you rescued is really FELV positive, she is not going to transmit the virus to your other cats through some chance encounter. It would take prolonged contact with your other cats to infect them with the virus. Even if they had prolonged contact, it does not mean your other cats would get the virus. Some cats are able to build an immune response and fight off the virus. I rescued a cat over the summer that tested positive on the combo snap test and the ELISA test but tested negative on the IFA. Thirty days later, he tested negative on the snap test, the ELISA test and continued to test negative on the IFA test. As a precaution, we tested again 30 days later, and he continued to test negative on all three tests. His body built an immune defense and fought off the virus --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 1:50 PM Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Jannes You will get (if you haven't already) loads of really great and helpful advice from this group. Personally, I would say, if you have a heart-connection with Amber (which it certainly seems you do) and you are willing to help her enjoy whatever life she had on earth, Go For It! You may be pleasantly surprised by the outcome. And Amber surely will be! Peace, Bonnie - Original Message - From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so any comments or ideas are much appreciated. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thanks, Bonnie, Yes, Amber and I have a connection now but I am very tender hearted and know it will be painful if her health gets bad. We had to have our Great Dane put down five years ago and I STILL get teary eyed about that. He had cardio myothapy and an parasitic infection. It does warm my heart to see Amber safe, well fed, and adjusting to her new surroundings. She won't play yet, but maybe that will come.. Jannes From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 3:12:40 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Jannes You will get (if you haven't already) loads of really great and helpful advice from this group. Personally, I would say, if you have a heart-connection with Amber (which it certainly seems you do) and you are willing to help her enjoy whatever life she had on earth, Go For It! You may be pleasantly surprised by the outcome. And Amber surely will be! Peace, Bonnie - Original Message - From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so any comments or ideas are much appreciated. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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You're among like-minded people in this group - just this afternoon, I was sitting with a few cats in my lap, a dog next to me, watching the horrors happening in Japan. I looked over at one of our cats who looks just like our old Houdini who die in Novembersuddenly, I started tearfully remembering details of almost ALL the cats that have died in my lifetimenow, I have a headache. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 4:56 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Thanks, Bonnie, Yes, Amber and I have a connection now but I am very tender hearted and know it will be painful if her health gets bad. We had to have our Great Dane put down five years ago and I STILL get teary eyed about that. He had cardio myothapy and an parasitic infection. It does warm my heart to see Amber safe, well fed, and adjusting to her new surroundings. She won't play yet, but maybe that will come.. Jannes From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 3:12:40 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Jannes You will get (if you haven't already) loads of really great and helpful advice from this group. Personally, I would say, if you have a heart-connection with Amber (which it certainly seems you do) and you are willing to help her enjoy whatever life she had on earth, Go For It! You may be pleasantly surprised by the outcome. And Amber surely will be! Peace, Bonnie - Original Message - From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so any comments or ideas are much appreciated. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Find a feather...maybe at a hobby storetease her gently. Also try a catnip spray (forget the powdered stuff) and Feliway. Oh yeah, my boys just reminded me that paper sacks are wonderful. It is always painful when they leave but, if it wasn't, they would mean nothing. On Mar 16, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Jannes Taylor wrote: Thanks, Bonnie, Yes, Amber and I have a connection now but I am very tender hearted and know it will be painful if her health gets bad. We had to have our Great Dane put down five years ago and I STILL get teary eyed about that. He had cardio myothapy and an parasitic infection. It does warm my heart to see Amber safe, well fed, and adjusting to her new surroundings. She won't play yet, but maybe that will come.. Jannes From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 3:12:40 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Jannes You will get (if you haven't already) loads of really great and helpful advice from this group. Personally, I would say, if you have a heart-connection with Amber (which it certainly seems you do) and you are willing to help her enjoy whatever life she had on earth, Go For It! You may be pleasantly surprised by the outcome. And Amber surely will be! Peace, Bonnie - Original Message - From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so any comments or ideas are much appreciated. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I can relate to that! I've had quite a few cats in my 52 years. You never really forget no matter how long it has been. Jannes From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 4:30:13 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. You're among like-minded people in this group - just this afternoon, I was sitting with a few cats in my lap, a dog next to me, watching the horrors happening in Japan. I looked over at one of our cats who looks just like our old Houdini who die in Novembersuddenly, I started tearfully remembering details of almost ALL the cats that have died in my lifetimenow, I have a headache. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 4:56 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Thanks, Bonnie, Yes, Amber and I have a connection now but I am very tender hearted and know it will be painful if her health gets bad. We had to have our Great Dane put down five years ago and I STILL get teary eyed about that. He had cardio myothapy and an parasitic infection. It does warm my heart to see Amber safe, well fed, and adjusting to her new surroundings. She won't play yet, but maybe that will come.. Jannes From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 3:12:40 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Jannes You will get (if you haven't already) loads of really great and helpful advice from this group. Personally, I would say, if you have a heart-connection with Amber (which it certainly seems you do) and you are willing to help her enjoy whatever life she had on earth, Go For It! You may be pleasantly surprised by the outcome. And Amber surely will be! Peace, Bonnie - Original Message - From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so any comments or ideas are much appreciated. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Alright you two - cut it out! It's only been a week and two days since my two year old cat died so it doesn't take much right now to get me bawling like a baby. No, really you guys aren't upsetting me. I think about her a lot anyway. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:00:01 -0700 From: jannestay...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I can relate to that! I've had quite a few cats in my 52 years. You never really forget no matter how long it has been. Jannes From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 4:30:13 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. You're among like-minded people in this group - just this afternoon, I was sitting with a few cats in my lap, a dog next to me, watching the horrors happening in Japan. I looked over at one of our cats who looks just like our old Houdini who die in Novembersuddenly, I started tearfully remembering details of almost ALL the cats that have died in my lifetimenow, I have a headache. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 4:56 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Thanks, Bonnie, Yes, Amber and I have a connection now but I am very tender hearted and know it will be painful if her health gets bad. We had to have our Great Dane put down five years ago and I STILL get teary eyed about that. He had cardio myothapy and an parasitic infection. It does warm my heart to see Amber safe, well fed, and adjusting to her new surroundings. She won't play yet, but maybe that will come.. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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So sorry to hear of your loss. I believe I am more sentimental than I have ever been! But, I can't help it Is this what happens after you pass the 50 mark??? Must be menopaws contributing to it, I guess. LOL Jannes From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 5:24:52 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Alright you two - cut it out! It's only been a week and two days since my two year old cat died so it doesn't take much right now to get me bawling like a baby. No, really you guys aren't upsetting me. I think about her a lot anyway. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:00:01 -0700 From: jannestay...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I can relate to that! I've had quite a few cats in my 52 years. You never really forget no matter how long it has been. Jannes From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 4:30:13 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. You're among like-minded people in this group - just this afternoon, I was sitting with a few cats in my lap, a dog next to me, watching the horrors happening in Japan. I looked over at one of our cats who looks just like our old Houdini who die in Novembersuddenly, I started tearfully remembering details of almost ALL the cats that have died in my lifetimenow, I have a headache. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 4:56 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Thanks, Bonnie, Yes, Amber and I have a connection now but I am very tender hearted and know it will be painful if her health gets bad. We had to have our Great Dane put down five years ago and I STILL get teary eyed about that. He had cardio myothapy and an parasitic infection. It does warm my heart to see Amber safe, well fed, and adjusting to her new surroundings. She won't play yet, but maybe that will come.. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I worked a hoarding case with 26 unvaccinated cats. 3 of them turned out to be FeLV positive. We quarantined the remaining cats for 6 months none showed up FeLV positive after the 6 months. I was amazed. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 10:48 PM My FIV cat has never been vaccinated against FeLV which is why I assumed he would get it from the other kitty. Doesn't make sense. Oh well, I'm glad he didn't get it. Maureen To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org From: create_me_...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 02:26:16 + Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. My FIV cat lived on and off for 10 years with FeLV cats never got it. Of coarse he was vaccinated. Beth Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:18:40 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Matter of fact, I have an FIV + cat living with me that hasn't contracted the FeLV. I'm not quite sure how that has happened because he should have gotten it right away. I'm going to have him tested a couple more times over the next few months to be sure. Maybe FeLV isn't as contagious as they say. I'm still shaking my head on that one. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:26:53 -0700 From: jgonza...@pacbell.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I realize now that I did not address the concern you posted about. I felt the need to educate you about the testing protocol for FELV because I would hate to see you cage a cat for 3 months that may not even be infected with the virus. You cannot consider a cat persistently viremic until they test positive on the IFA test. If it turns out the cat you rescued is really FELV positive, she is not going to transmit the virus to your other cats through some chance encounter. It would take prolonged contact with your other cats to infect them with the virus. Even if they had prolonged contact, it does not mean your other cats would get the virus. Some cats are able to build an immune response and fight off the virus. I rescued a cat over the summer that tested positive on the combo snap test and the ELISA test but tested negative on the IFA. Thirty days later, he tested negative on the snap test, the ELISA test and continued to test negative on the IFA test. As a precaution, we tested again 30 days later, and he continued to test negative on all three tests. His body built an immune defense and fought off the virus --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 1:50 PM Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so any comments or ideas are much appreciated. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thank You so much for your informative information. I really appreciate it! Jannes From: Jacquelyn Gonzales jgonza...@pacbell.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 4:08:44 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Hi Jannes: The FELV/FIV Combo SNAP tests can have a lot of cross-reactivity resulting in false positives. IF you tested via the in-house FELV/FIV Combo test (the test they run in the vet's office) you should retest via the ELISA test that is sent to the lab. Alternatively, you could test via the IFA test now and if the test is positive, the cat is considered persistently viremic and no further testing is required. The ELISA test shows the presence of an antigen created by the cat's immune response to FeLV infection in the red blood cells, while the IFA shows this same antigen in the white blood cells. The difference is that the antigen only goes into the white cells at a later stage of infection, which is why IFA+ cats are considered persistently viremic while an ELISA+ / IFA- cat may have a transient viremia that can be completely thrown off. There is no right or wrong answer when it comes to the testing. You can test via the IFA now and if it is positive, the cat is considered persistently viremic and no further testing is needed. If you test via the IFA test and it is negative, you have to test via the ELISA lab test. I have FELV+ cats of my own and have rescued others. If you have discordant test results, you cannot consider the cat FELV negative until you get results that match. There is no need to wait 3 months. If I were you, I would test via the ELISA test that is sent to the lab now. If it is positive, the next step is to test via the IFA test. --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 1:50 PM Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so any comments or ideas are much appreciated. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thank you so much for sharing. This makes me feel less paranoid, at the least. I will definately have her retested. If she still tests negative, I will still give her the best life I can. :) Jannes From: Jacquelyn Gonzales jgonza...@pacbell.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 4:26:53 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I realize now that I did not address the concern you posted about. I felt the need to educate you about the testing protocol for FELV because I would hate to see you cage a cat for 3 months that may not even be infected with the virus. You cannot consider a cat persistently viremic until they test positive on the IFA test. If it turns out the cat you rescued is really FELV positive, she is not going to transmit the virus to your other cats through some chance encounter. It would take prolonged contact with your other cats to infect them with the virus. Even if they had prolonged contact, it does not mean your other cats would get the virus. Some cats are able to build an immune response and fight off the virus. I rescued a cat over the summer that tested positive on the combo snap test and the ELISA test but tested negative on the IFA. Thirty days later, he tested negative on the snap test, the ELISA test and continued to test negative on the IFA test. As a precaution, we tested again 30 days later, and he continued to test negative on all three tests. His body built an immune defense and fought off the virus --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 1:50 PM Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so any comments or ideas are much appreciated. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I feel like I must be very cautious until I know for sure where we stand after the restesting. I do appreciate your story and do not feel as nervous about the situation as I did. This has certainly been a learning experience for me. I have loved cats all my life and try to spoil them as much as I can. It makes me feel good to see Amber get all the food she wants and I hear her purr. It is sad she has lost her freedom but I hope to be able to give her a good life. BTW, Do you think I should have her spayed or wait until after the restesting? My husband questions whether we should ever her spayed since she can't get out. Jannes From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 7:04:01 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I'd say don't worry about it. I just don't think it's that contagious. I mix mine. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I foster cats and kittens for my local humane society. Last week a 2 year old kitty died. She tested positive for FeLV. I got her as a kitten and at that time she tested negative. I have got quite a few cats that have been living with me as long as she has been with me. They all share the same food bowls and litterboxes. None are vaccinated against FeLV since every cat or kitten that comes into my house has been tested first. It terrified me when I found out she had been positive, especially since I have a 5 month old kitten that has been living with me since he was 8 weeks old. Today I had him and an older kitten that is about 8 months old tested at the vet's office. The older kitten has been with me since he was about 12 weeks old. They both came out negative. A couple weeks ago I had an adult that had been with me almost as long as the FeLV cat was with me and she tested negative as well. So, I tell you this Jannes to confirm what the others have said because it shows that not all cats contract FeLV and there is no need to panic right now. The vet felt that since those kittens and the cat that I had tested had been exposed to FeLV for so long that if they were going to get it they would have already gotten it. Especially the cat that had lived at my house with the FeLV + cat for a year and a half. A friend of mine has also had 3 or 4 FeLV positive cats living alongside her healthy cats for years. She gets her healthy cats vaccinated against FeLV and they have never contracted the disease from the FeLV cats. I would vaccinate your healthy cats now and let the FeLV + cat run around the basement and if she tests negative in a few months or test negative with the ELISA and IFA test I would let her in the rest of the house with the other cats. But, that's what I would do, not necessarily what you should do. Actually, I would trust the vaccine and after your healthy cats get their vaccination (it takes a series of two shots the first time) then I'd let all three hang together. But it's your cats and you have to make that decision. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:26:53 -0700 From: jgonza...@pacbell.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I realize now that I did not address the concern you posted about. I felt the need to educate you about the testing protocol for FELV because I would hate to see you cage a cat for 3 months that may not even be infected with the virus. You cannot consider a cat persistently viremic until they test positive on the IFA test. If it turns out the cat you rescued is really FELV positive, she is not going to transmit the virus to your other cats through some chance encounter. It would take prolonged contact with your other cats to infect them with the virus. Even if they had prolonged contact, it does not mean your other cats would get the virus. Some cats are able to build an immune response and fight off the virus. I rescued a cat over the summer that tested positive on the combo snap test and the ELISA test but tested negative on the IFA. Thirty days later, he tested negative on the snap test, the ELISA test and continued to test negative on the IFA test. As a precaution, we tested again 30 days later, and he continued to test negative on all three tests. His body built an immune defense and fought off the virus --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk
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I've always spay/neutered mine- No problems. Except one Felv girl I have, who has seizures, and I have not had her spayed. Year or two old. She just seems so fragile I couldn't put her thru it. Doesn't seem to have heat cycles, if so very mild and unnoticeable. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Mar 15, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote: I feel like I must be very cautious until I know for sure where we stand after the restesting. I do appreciate your story and do not feel as nervous about the situation as I did. This has certainly been a learning experience for me. I have loved cats all my life and try to spoil them as much as I can. It makes me feel good to see Amber get all the food she wants and I hear her purr. It is sad she has lost her freedom but I hope to be able to give her a good life. BTW, Do you think I should have her spayed or wait until after the restesting? My husband questions whether we should ever her spayed since she can't get out. Jannes From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 7:04:01 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I'd say don't worry about it. I just don't think it's that contagious. I mix mine. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I foster cats and kittens for my local humane society. Last week a 2 year old kitty died. She tested positive for FeLV. I got her as a kitten and at that time she tested negative. I have got quite a few cats that have been living with me as long as she has been with me. They all share the same food bowls and litterboxes. None are vaccinated against FeLV since every cat or kitten that comes into my house has been tested first. It terrified me when I found out she had been positive, especially since I have a 5 month old kitten that has been living with me since he was 8 weeks old. Today I had him and an older kitten that is about 8 months old tested at the vet's office. The older kitten has been with me since he was about 12 weeks old. They both came out negative. A couple weeks ago I had an adult that had been with me almost as long as the FeLV cat was with me and she tested negative as well. So, I tell you this Jannes to confirm what the others have said because it shows that not all cats contract FeLV and there is no need to panic right now. The vet felt that since those kittens and the cat that I had tested had been exposed to FeLV for so long that if they were going to get it they would have already gotten it. Especially the cat that had lived at my house with the FeLV + cat for a year and a half. A friend of mine has also had 3 or 4 FeLV positive cats living alongside her healthy cats for years. She gets her healthy cats vaccinated against FeLV and they have never contracted the disease from the FeLV cats. I would vaccinate your healthy cats now and let the FeLV + cat run around the basement and if she tests negative in a few months or test negative with the ELISA and IFA test I would let her in the rest of the house with the other cats. But, that's what I would do, not necessarily what you should do. Actually, I would trust the vaccine and after your healthy cats get their vaccination (it takes a series of two shots the first time) then I'd let all three hang together. But it's your cats and you have to make that decision. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:26:53 -0700 From: jgonza...@pacbell.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I realize now that I did not address the concern you posted about. I felt the need to educate you about the testing protocol for FELV because I would hate to see you cage a cat for 3 months that may not even be infected with the virus. You cannot consider a cat persistently viremic until they test positive on the IFA test. If it turns out the cat you rescued is really FELV positive, she is not going to transmit the virus to your other cats through some chance encounter. It would take prolonged contact with your other cats to infect them with the virus. Even if they had prolonged contact, it does not mean your other cats would get the virus. Some cats are able to build an immune response and fight off the virus. I rescued a cat over the summer that tested positive on the combo snap test and the ELISA test but tested negative on the IFA
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Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 2:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I feel like I must be very cautious until I know for sure where we stand after the restesting. I do appreciate your story and do not feel as nervous about the situation as I did. This has certainly been a learning experience for me. I have loved cats all my life and try to spoil them as much as I can. It makes me feel good to see Amber get all the food she wants and I hear her purr. It is sad she has lost her freedom but I hope to be able to give her a good life. BTW, Do you think I should have her spayed or wait until after the restesting? My husband questions whether we should ever her spayed since she can't get out. Jannes From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 7:04:01 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I'd say don't worry about it. I just don't think it's that contagious. I mix mine. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I foster cats and kittens for my local humane society. Last week a 2 year old kitty died. She tested positive for FeLV. I got her as a kitten and at that time she tested negative. I have got quite a few cats that have been living with me as long as she has been with me. They all share the same food bowls and litterboxes. None are vaccinated against FeLV since every cat or kitten that comes into my house has been tested first. It terrified me when I found out she had been positive, especially since I have a 5 month old kitten that has been living with me since he was 8 weeks old. Today I had him and an older kitten that is about 8 months old tested at the vet's office. The older kitten has been with me since he was about 12 weeks old. They both came out negative. A couple weeks ago I had an adult that had been with me almost as long as the FeLV cat was with me and she tested negative as well. So, I tell you this Jannes to confirm what the others have said because it shows that not all cats contract FeLV and there is no need to panic right now. The vet felt that since those kittens and the cat that I had tested had been exposed to FeLV for so long that if they were going to get it they would have already gotten it. Especially the cat that had lived at my house with the FeLV + cat for a year and a half. A friend of mine has also had 3 or 4 FeLV positive cats living alongside her healthy cats for years. She gets her healthy cats vaccinated against FeLV and they have never contracted the disease from the FeLV cats. I would vaccinate your healthy cats now and let the FeLV + cat run around the basement and if she tests negative in a few months or test negative with the ELISA and IFA test I would let her in the rest of the house with the other cats. But, that's what I would do, not necessarily what you should do. Actually, I would trust the vaccine and after your healthy cats get their vaccination (it takes a series of two shots the first time) then I'd let all three hang together. But it's your cats and you have to make that decision. I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesnt .the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. Mark Twain Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:26:53 -0700 From: jgonza...@pacbell.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I realize now that I did not address the concern you posted about. I felt the need to educate you about the testing protocol for FELV because I would hate to see you cage a cat for 3 months that may not even be infected with the virus. You cannot consider a cat persistently viremic until they test positive on the IFA test. If it turns out the cat you rescued is really FELV positive, she is not going to transmit the virus to your other cats through some chance encounter. It would take prolonged contact with your other cats to infect them with the virus. Even if they had prolonged contact, it does not mean your other cats would get the virus. Some cats are able to build an immune response and fight off the virus. I rescued a cat over
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My vet always treats a cat with health problems with vitamin injections for about a week or two - vitamin B12, C, etc. - it builds up their immune system a bit before surgery. We call it The Cocktail. You can't imagine how many cats' lives have been saved with these cocktails, practically coming back from the dead! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:39 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 2:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I feel like I must be very cautious until I know for sure where we stand after the restesting. I do appreciate your story and do not feel as nervous about the situation as I did. This has certainly been a learning experience for me. I have loved cats all my life and try to spoil them as much as I can. It makes me feel good to see Amber get all the food she wants and I hear her purr. It is sad she has lost her freedom but I hope to be able to give her a good life. BTW, Do you think I should have her spayed or wait until after the restesting? My husband questions whether we should ever her spayed since she can't get out. Jannes From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 7:04:01 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I'd say don't worry about it. I just don't think it's that contagious. I mix mine. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I foster cats and kittens for my local humane society. Last week a 2 year old kitty died. She tested positive for FeLV. I got her as a kitten and at that time she tested negative. I have got quite a few cats that have been living with me as long as she has been with me. They all share the same food bowls and litterboxes. None are vaccinated against FeLV since every cat or kitten that comes into my house has been tested first. It terrified me when I found out she had been positive, especially since I have a 5 month old kitten that has been living with me since he was 8 weeks old. Today I had him and an older kitten that is about 8 months old tested at the vet's office. The older kitten has been with me since he was about 12 weeks old. They both came out negative. A couple weeks ago I had an adult that had been with me almost as long as the FeLV cat was with me and she tested negative as well. So, I tell you this Jannes to confirm what the others have said because it shows that not all cats contract FeLV and there is no need to panic right now. The vet felt that since those kittens and the cat that I had tested had been exposed to FeLV for so long that if they were going to get it they would have already gotten it. Especially the cat that had lived at my house with the FeLV + cat for a year and a half. A friend of mine has also had 3 or 4 FeLV positive cats living alongside her healthy cats for years. She gets her healthy cats vaccinated against FeLV and they have never contracted the disease from the FeLV cats. I would vaccinate your healthy cats now and let the FeLV + cat run around the basement and if she tests negative in a few months or test negative with the ELISA and IFA test I would let her in the rest of the house with the other cats. But, that's what I would do, not necessarily what you should do. Actually, I would trust the vaccine and after your healthy cats get their vaccination (it takes a series of two shots the first time) then I'd let all three hang together. But it's your cats and you have to make that decision. I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesnt .the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. Mark Twain Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:26:53 -0700 From: jgonza...@pacbell.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I realize now that I did not address the concern you posted about. I felt the need to educate you about the testing protocol for FELV because I would hate to see you cage a cat
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Sounds like you've got a great vet there. Congrats! Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. My vet always treats a cat with health problems with vitamin injections for about a week or two - vitamin B12, C, etc. - it builds up their immune system a bit before surgery. We call it The Cocktail. You can't imagine how many cats' lives have been saved with these cocktails, practically coming back from the dead! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:39 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 2:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I feel like I must be very cautious until I know for sure where we stand after the restesting. I do appreciate your story and do not feel as nervous about the situation as I did. This has certainly been a learning experience for me. I have loved cats all my life and try to spoil them as much as I can. It makes me feel good to see Amber get all the food she wants and I hear her purr. It is sad she has lost her freedom but I hope to be able to give her a good life. BTW, Do you think I should have her spayed or wait until after the restesting? My husband questions whether we should ever her spayed since she can't get out. Jannes From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 7:04:01 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I'd say don't worry about it. I just don't think it's that contagious. I mix mine. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I foster cats and kittens for my local humane society. Last week a 2 year old kitty died. She tested positive for FeLV. I got her as a kitten and at that time she tested negative. I have got quite a few cats that have been living with me as long as she has been with me. They all share the same food bowls and litterboxes. None are vaccinated against FeLV since every cat or kitten that comes into my house has been tested first. It terrified me when I found out she had been positive, especially since I have a 5 month old kitten that has been living with me since he was 8 weeks old. Today I had him and an older kitten that is about 8 months old tested at the vet's office. The older kitten has been with me since he was about 12 weeks old. They both came out negative. A couple weeks ago I had an adult that had been with me almost as long as the FeLV cat was with me and she tested negative as well. So, I tell you this Jannes to confirm what the others have said because it shows that not all cats contract FeLV and there is no need to panic right now. The vet felt that since those kittens and the cat that I had tested had been exposed to FeLV for so long that if they were going to get it they would have already gotten it. Especially the cat that had lived at my house with the FeLV + cat for a year and a half. A friend of mine has also had 3 or 4 FeLV positive cats living alongside her healthy cats for years. She gets her healthy cats vaccinated against FeLV and they have never contracted the disease from the FeLV cats. I would vaccinate your healthy cats now and let the FeLV + cat run around the basement and if she tests negative in a few months or test negative with the ELISA and IFA test I would let her in the rest of the house with the other cats. But, that's what I would do, not necessarily what you should do. Actually, I would trust the vaccine and after your healthy cats get their vaccination (it takes a series of two shots the first time) then I'd let all three hang together. But it's your cats and you have to make that decision. I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesnt .the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. Mark Twain Date: Mon, 14 Mar
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My veterinarian is co-founder of AVAR (Association of Veterinarians for Animal Rights), now under the umbrella of HSUS. He refuses to declaw cats, crop ears and dock tails on dogs, uses alternative medicine and acupuncture. Yes, I am lucky to have him just a few minutes from where we live - he always make time for me, even when office hours are filled. But then, again, I've been quite a good customer with our own dogs and cats since 1984 and with the cat rescue group since 1992. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 8:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Sounds like you've got a great vet there. Congrats! Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. My vet always treats a cat with health problems with vitamin injections for about a week or two - vitamin B12, C, etc. - it builds up their immune system a bit before surgery. We call it The Cocktail. You can't imagine how many cats' lives have been saved with these cocktails, practically coming back from the dead! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:39 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 2:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I feel like I must be very cautious until I know for sure where we stand after the restesting. I do appreciate your story and do not feel as nervous about the situation as I did. This has certainly been a learning experience for me. I have loved cats all my life and try to spoil them as much as I can. It makes me feel good to see Amber get all the food she wants and I hear her purr. It is sad she has lost her freedom but I hope to be able to give her a good life. BTW, Do you think I should have her spayed or wait until after the restesting? My husband questions whether we should ever her spayed since she can't get out. Jannes From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 7:04:01 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I'd say don't worry about it. I just don't think it's that contagious. I mix mine. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I foster cats and kittens for my local humane society. Last week a 2 year old kitty died. She tested positive for FeLV. I got her as a kitten and at that time she tested negative. I have got quite a few cats that have been living with me as long as she has been with me. They all share the same food bowls and litterboxes. None are vaccinated against FeLV since every cat or kitten that comes into my house has been tested first. It terrified me when I found out she had been positive, especially since I have a 5 month old kitten that has been living with me since he was 8 weeks old. Today I had him and an older kitten that is about 8 months old tested at the vet's office. The older kitten has been with me since he was about 12 weeks old. They both came out negative. A couple weeks ago I had an adult that had been with me almost as long as the FeLV cat was with me and she tested negative as well. So, I tell you this Jannes to confirm what the others have said because it shows that not all cats contract FeLV and there is no need to panic right now. The vet felt that since those kittens and the cat that I had tested had been exposed to FeLV for so long that if they were going to get it they would have already gotten it. Especially the cat that had lived at my house with the FeLV + cat for a year and a half. A friend of mine has also had 3 or 4 FeLV positive cats living alongside her healthy cats for years. She gets her healthy cats vaccinated against FeLV and they have never contracted the disease from the FeLV cats. I would vaccinate your healthy cats now and let the FeLV + cat run around the basement and if she tests negative in a few
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laser helps reduce the stress On Mar 15, 2011, at 6:39 PM, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 2:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I feel like I must be very cautious until I know for sure where we stand after the restesting. I do appreciate your story and do not feel as nervous about the situation as I did. This has certainly been a learning experience for me. I have loved cats all my life and try to spoil them as much as I can. It makes me feel good to see Amber get all the food she wants and I hear her purr. It is sad she has lost her freedom but I hope to be able to give her a good life. BTW, Do you think I should have her spayed or wait until after the restesting? My husband questions whether we should ever her spayed since she can't get out. Jannes From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 7:04:01 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I'd say don't worry about it. I just don't think it's that contagious. I mix mine. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I foster cats and kittens for my local humane society. Last week a 2 year old kitty died. She tested positive for FeLV. I got her as a kitten and at that time she tested negative. I have got quite a few cats that have been living with me as long as she has been with me. They all share the same food bowls and litterboxes. None are vaccinated against FeLV since every cat or kitten that comes into my house has been tested first. It terrified me when I found out she had been positive, especially since I have a 5 month old kitten that has been living with me since he was 8 weeks old. Today I had him and an older kitten that is about 8 months old tested at the vet's office. The older kitten has been with me since he was about 12 weeks old. They both came out negative. A couple weeks ago I had an adult that had been with me almost as long as the FeLV cat was with me and she tested negative as well. So, I tell you this Jannes to confirm what the others have said because it shows that not all cats contract FeLV and there is no need to panic right now. The vet felt that since those kittens and the cat that I had tested had been exposed to FeLV for so long that if they were going to get it they would have already gotten it. Especially the cat that had lived at my house with the FeLV + cat for a year and a half. A friend of mine has also had 3 or 4 FeLV positive cats living alongside her healthy cats for years. She gets her healthy cats vaccinated against FeLV and they have never contracted the disease from the FeLV cats. I would vaccinate your healthy cats now and let the FeLV + cat run around the basement and if she tests negative in a few months or test negative with the ELISA and IFA test I would let her in the rest of the house with the other cats. But, that's what I would do, not necessarily what you should do. Actually, I would trust the vaccine and after your healthy cats get their vaccination (it takes a series of two shots the first time) then I'd let all three hang together. But it's your cats and you have to make that decision. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:26:53 -0700 From: jgonza...@pacbell.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I realize now that I did not address the concern you posted about. I felt the need to educate you about the testing protocol for FELV because I would hate to see you cage a cat for 3 months that may not even be infected with the virus. You cannot consider a cat persistently viremic until they test positive on the IFA test. If it turns out the cat you rescued is really FELV positive, she is not going to transmit the virus to your other cats through some chance encounter. It would take prolonged contact with your other cats to infect them with the virus. Even if they had prolonged contact, it does not mean your other cats would get the virus
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I love him already. Please tell me you live near Atlanta. If so, he's my new vet!!! “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:05:37 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. My veterinarian is co-founder of AVAR (Association of Veterinarians for Animal Rights), now under the umbrella of HSUS. He refuses to declaw cats, crop ears and dock tails on dogs, uses alternative medicine and acupuncture. Yes, I am lucky to have him just a few minutes from where we live - he always make time for me, even when office hours are filled. But then, again, I've been quite a good customer with our own dogs and cats since 1984 and with the cat rescue group since 1992. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 8:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Sounds like you've got a great vet there. Congrats! Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. My vet always treats a cat with health problems with vitamin injections for about a week or two - vitamin B12, C, etc. - it builds up their immune system a bit before surgery. We call it The Cocktail. You can't imagine how many cats' lives have been saved with these cocktails, practically coming back from the dead! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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No, sorry - we are in Greenwich, CT! Blue Cross Animal Hospital! But how about moving here? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:16 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I love him already. Please tell me you live near Atlanta. If so, he's my new vet!!! I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark Twain Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:05:37 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. My veterinarian is co-founder of AVAR (Association of Veterinarians for Animal Rights), now under the umbrella of HSUS. He refuses to declaw cats, crop ears and dock tails on dogs, uses alternative medicine and acupuncture. Yes, I am lucky to have him just a few minutes from where we live - he always make time for me, even when office hours are filled. But then, again, I've been quite a good customer with our own dogs and cats since 1984 and with the cat rescue group since 1992. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 8:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Sounds like you've got a great vet there. Congrats! Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. My vet always treats a cat with health problems with vitamin injections for about a week or two - vitamin B12, C, etc. - it builds up their immune system a bit before surgery. We call it The Cocktail. You can't imagine how many cats' lives have been saved with these cocktails, practically coming back from the dead! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Ha, ha - for a vet like him it might be worth the move! I don't think my husband would like it though! “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:36:33 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. No, sorry - we are in Greenwich, CT! Blue Cross Animal Hospital! But how about moving here? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:16 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I love him already. Please tell me you live near Atlanta. If so, he's my new vet!!! I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark Twain Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:05:37 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. My veterinarian is co-founder of AVAR (Association of Veterinarians for Animal Rights), now under the umbrella of HSUS. He refuses to declaw cats, crop ears and dock tails on dogs, uses alternative medicine and acupuncture. Yes, I am lucky to have him just a few minutes from where we live - he always make time for me, even when office hours are filled. But then, again, I've been quite a good customer with our own dogs and cats since 1984 and with the cat rescue group since 1992. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 8:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Sounds like you've got a great vet there. Congrats! Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. My vet always treats a cat with health problems with vitamin injections for about a week or two - vitamin B12, C, etc. - it builds up their immune system a bit before surgery. We call it The Cocktail. You can't imagine how many cats' lives have been saved with these cocktails, practically coming back from the dead! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I love that mark Twain quote! What would your husband have against Greenwich? It's beautiful here, great ferries to island beaches, beachesclose to NY City -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Ha, ha - for a vet like him it might be worth the move! I don't think my husband would like it though! I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark Twain Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:36:33 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. No, sorry - we are in Greenwich, CT! Blue Cross Animal Hospital! But how about moving here? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:16 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I love him already. Please tell me you live near Atlanta. If so, he's my new vet!!! I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark Twain Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:05:37 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. My veterinarian is co-founder of AVAR (Association of Veterinarians for Animal Rights), now under the umbrella of HSUS. He refuses to declaw cats, crop ears and dock tails on dogs, uses alternative medicine and acupuncture. Yes, I am lucky to have him just a few minutes from where we live - he always make time for me, even when office hours are filled. But then, again, I've been quite a good customer with our own dogs and cats since 1984 and with the cat rescue group since 1992. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 8:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Sounds like you've got a great vet there. Congrats! Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. My vet always treats a cat with health problems with vitamin injections for about a week or two - vitamin B12, C, etc. - it builds up their immune system a bit before surgery. We call it The Cocktail. You can't imagine how many cats' lives have been saved with these cocktails, practically coming back from the dead! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I bet it is beautiful. I lived in NH for 5 years and loved it. New England is gorgeous. He's not much of a traveler though. He likes to visit other places but I can't imagine him ever moving outside of GA. He's close to his family and friends so that's probably a lot of the reason. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 22:12:34 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I love that mark Twain quote! What would your husband have against Greenwich? It's beautiful here, great ferries to island beaches, beachesclose to NY City -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Ha, ha - for a vet like him it might be worth the move! I don't think my husband would like it though! I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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When I lived with my parents, my FeLV+ cat lived in my bedroom away from my parents healthy cats. (My cat tested positive at 5 weeks old and I was not going to put him down. P.S. He's almost 2 years old and still healthy!) They played under the door, my cat escaped a few times, but the Leukemia never spread between cats. Contact was limited. Don't get too worried. --Katy On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.comwrote: Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so any comments or ideas are much appreciated. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Jannes: The FELV/FIV Combo SNAP tests can have a lot of cross-reactivity resulting in false positives. IF you tested via the in-house FELV/FIV Combo test (the test they run in the vet's office) you should retest via the ELISA test that is sent to the lab. Alternatively, you could test via the IFA test now and if the test is positive, the cat is considered persistently viremic and no further testing is required. The ELISA test shows the presence of an antigen created by the cat's immune response to FeLV infection in the red blood cells, while the IFA shows this same antigen in the white blood cells. The difference is that the antigen only goes into the white cells at a later stage of infection, which is why IFA+ cats are considered persistently viremic while an ELISA+ / IFA- cat may have a transient viremia that can be completely thrown off. There is no right or wrong answer when it comes to the testing. You can test via the IFA now and if it is positive, the cat is considered persistently viremic and no further testing is needed. If you test via the IFA test and it is negative, you have to test via the ELISA lab test. I have FELV+ cats of my own and have rescued others. If you have discordant test results, you cannot consider the cat FELV negative until you get results that match. There is no need to wait 3 months. If I were you, I would test via the ELISA test that is sent to the lab now. If it is positive, the next step is to test via the IFA test. --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 1:50 PM Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so any comments or ideas are much appreciated. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Jannes - I mix my FeLV fosters with my healthy, negative, vaccinated cats. I have done this for years have my healthy cats re-tested many time - including about a month ago. They remain negative. They all share food, water, groom each other, etc. You might want to search the archives on mixing. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 4:50 PM Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so any comments or ideas are much appreciated. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I realize now that I did not address the concern you posted about. I felt the need to educate you about the testing protocol for FELV because I would hate to see you cage a cat for 3 months that may not even be infected with the virus. You cannot consider a cat persistently viremic until they test positive on the IFA test. If it turns out the cat you rescued is really FELV positive, she is not going to transmit the virus to your other cats through some chance encounter. It would take prolonged contact with your other cats to infect them with the virus. Even if they had prolonged contact, it does not mean your other cats would get the virus. Some cats are able to build an immune response and fight off the virus. I rescued a cat over the summer that tested positive on the combo snap test and the ELISA test but tested negative on the IFA. Thirty days later, he tested negative on the snap test, the ELISA test and continued to test negative on the IFA test. As a precaution, we tested again 30 days later, and he continued to test negative on all three tests. His body built an immune defense and fought off the virus --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 1:50 PM Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so any comments or ideas are much appreciated. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I foster cats and kittens for my local humane society. Last week a 2 year old kitty died. She tested positive for FeLV. I got her as a kitten and at that time she tested negative. I have got quite a few cats that have been living with me as long as she has been with me. They all share the same food bowls and litterboxes. None are vaccinated against FeLV since every cat or kitten that comes into my house has been tested first. It terrified me when I found out she had been positive, especially since I have a 5 month old kitten that has been living with me since he was 8 weeks old. Today I had him and an older kitten that is about 8 months old tested at the vet's office. The older kitten has been with me since he was about 12 weeks old. They both came out negative. A couple weeks ago I had an adult that had been with me almost as long as the FeLV cat was with me and she tested negative as well. So, I tell you this Jannes to confirm what the others have said because it shows that not all cats contract FeLV and there is no need to panic right now. The vet felt that since those kittens and the cat that I had tested had been exposed to FeLV for so long that if they were going to get it they would have already gotten it. Especially the cat that had lived at my house with the FeLV + cat for a year and a half. A friend of mine has also had 3 or 4 FeLV positive cats living alongside her healthy cats for years. She gets her healthy cats vaccinated against FeLV and they have never contracted the disease from the FeLV cats. I would vaccinate your healthy cats now and let the FeLV + cat run around the basement and if she tests negative in a few months or test negative with the ELISA and IFA test I would let her in the rest of the house with the other cats. But, that's what I would do, not necessarily what you should do. Actually, I would trust the vaccine and after your healthy cats get their vaccination (it takes a series of two shots the first time) then I'd let all three hang together. But it's your cats and you have to make that decision. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:26:53 -0700 From: jgonza...@pacbell.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I realize now that I did not address the concern you posted about. I felt the need to educate you about the testing protocol for FELV because I would hate to see you cage a cat for 3 months that may not even be infected with the virus. You cannot consider a cat persistently viremic until they test positive on the IFA test. If it turns out the cat you rescued is really FELV positive, she is not going to transmit the virus to your other cats through some chance encounter. It would take prolonged contact with your other cats to infect them with the virus. Even if they had prolonged contact, it does not mean your other cats would get the virus. Some cats are able to build an immune response and fight off the virus. I rescued a cat over the summer that tested positive on the combo snap test and the ELISA test but tested negative on the IFA. Thirty days later, he tested negative on the snap test, the ELISA test and continued to test negative on the IFA test. As a precaution, we tested again 30 days later, and he continued to test negative on all three tests. His body built an immune defense and fought off the virus --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 1:50 PM Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
I'd say don't worry about it. I just don't think it's that contagious. I mix mine. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I foster cats and kittens for my local humane society. Last week a 2 year old kitty died. She tested positive for FeLV. I got her as a kitten and at that time she tested negative. I have got quite a few cats that have been living with me as long as she has been with me. They all share the same food bowls and litterboxes. None are vaccinated against FeLV since every cat or kitten that comes into my house has been tested first. It terrified me when I found out she had been positive, especially since I have a 5 month old kitten that has been living with me since he was 8 weeks old. Today I had him and an older kitten that is about 8 months old tested at the vet's office. The older kitten has been with me since he was about 12 weeks old. They both came out negative. A couple weeks ago I had an adult that had been with me almost as long as the FeLV cat was with me and she tested negative as well. So, I tell you this Jannes to confirm what the others have said because it shows that not all cats contract FeLV and there is no need to panic right now. The vet felt that since those kittens and the cat that I had tested had been exposed to FeLV for so long that if they were going to get it they would have already gotten it. Especially the cat that had lived at my house with the FeLV + cat for a year and a half. A friend of mine has also had 3 or 4 FeLV positive cats living alongside her healthy cats for years. She gets her healthy cats vaccinated against FeLV and they have never contracted the disease from the FeLV cats. I would vaccinate your healthy cats now and let the FeLV + cat run around the basement and if she tests negative in a few months or test negative with the ELISA and IFA test I would let her in the rest of the house with the other cats. But, that's what I would do, not necessarily what you should do. Actually, I would trust the vaccine and after your healthy cats get their vaccination (it takes a series of two shots the first time) then I'd let all three hang together. But it's your cats and you have to make that decision. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:26:53 -0700 From: jgonza...@pacbell.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I realize now that I did not address the concern you posted about. I felt the need to educate you about the testing protocol for FELV because I would hate to see you cage a cat for 3 months that may not even be infected with the virus. You cannot consider a cat persistently viremic until they test positive on the IFA test. If it turns out the cat you rescued is really FELV positive, she is not going to transmit the virus to your other cats through some chance encounter. It would take prolonged contact with your other cats to infect them with the virus. Even if they had prolonged contact, it does not mean your other cats would get the virus. Some cats are able to build an immune response and fight off the virus. I rescued a cat over the summer that tested positive on the combo snap test and the ELISA test but tested negative on the IFA. Thirty days later, he tested negative on the snap test, the ELISA test and continued to test negative on the IFA test. As a precaution, we tested again 30 days later, and he continued to test negative on all three tests. His body built an immune defense and fought off the virus --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 1:50 PM Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Matter of fact, I have an FIV + cat living with me that hasn't contracted the FeLV. I'm not quite sure how that has happened because he should have gotten it right away. I'm going to have him tested a couple more times over the next few months to be sure. Maybe FeLV isn't as contagious as they say. I'm still shaking my head on that one. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:26:53 -0700 From: jgonza...@pacbell.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I realize now that I did not address the concern you posted about. I felt the need to educate you about the testing protocol for FELV because I would hate to see you cage a cat for 3 months that may not even be infected with the virus. You cannot consider a cat persistently viremic until they test positive on the IFA test. If it turns out the cat you rescued is really FELV positive, she is not going to transmit the virus to your other cats through some chance encounter. It would take prolonged contact with your other cats to infect them with the virus. Even if they had prolonged contact, it does not mean your other cats would get the virus. Some cats are able to build an immune response and fight off the virus. I rescued a cat over the summer that tested positive on the combo snap test and the ELISA test but tested negative on the IFA. Thirty days later, he tested negative on the snap test, the ELISA test and continued to test negative on the IFA test. As a precaution, we tested again 30 days later, and he continued to test negative on all three tests. His body built an immune defense and fought off the virus --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 1:50 PM Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so any comments or ideas are much appreciated. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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My FIV cat lived on and off for 10 years with FeLV cats never got it. Of coarse he was vaccinated. Beth Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:18:40 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Matter of fact, I have an FIV + cat living with me that hasn't contracted the FeLV. I'm not quite sure how that has happened because he should have gotten it right away. I'm going to have him tested a couple more times over the next few months to be sure. Maybe FeLV isn't as contagious as they say. I'm still shaking my head on that one. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:26:53 -0700 From: jgonza...@pacbell.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I realize now that I did not address the concern you posted about. I felt the need to educate you about the testing protocol for FELV because I would hate to see you cage a cat for 3 months that may not even be infected with the virus. You cannot consider a cat persistently viremic until they test positive on the IFA test. If it turns out the cat you rescued is really FELV positive, she is not going to transmit the virus to your other cats through some chance encounter. It would take prolonged contact with your other cats to infect them with the virus. Even if they had prolonged contact, it does not mean your other cats would get the virus. Some cats are able to build an immune response and fight off the virus. I rescued a cat over the summer that tested positive on the combo snap test and the ELISA test but tested negative on the IFA. Thirty days later, he tested negative on the snap test, the ELISA test and continued to test negative on the IFA test. As a precaution, we tested again 30 days later, and he continued to test negative on all three tests. His body built an immune defense and fought off the virus --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 1:50 PM Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so any comments or ideas are much appreciated. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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My FIV cat has never been vaccinated against FeLV which is why I assumed he would get it from the other kitty. Doesn't make sense. Oh well, I'm glad he didn't get it. Maureen To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org From: create_me_...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 02:26:16 + Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. My FIV cat lived on and off for 10 years with FeLV cats never got it. Of coarse he was vaccinated. Beth Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:18:40 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Matter of fact, I have an FIV + cat living with me that hasn't contracted the FeLV. I'm not quite sure how that has happened because he should have gotten it right away. I'm going to have him tested a couple more times over the next few months to be sure. Maybe FeLV isn't as contagious as they say. I'm still shaking my head on that one. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:26:53 -0700 From: jgonza...@pacbell.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. I realize now that I did not address the concern you posted about. I felt the need to educate you about the testing protocol for FELV because I would hate to see you cage a cat for 3 months that may not even be infected with the virus. You cannot consider a cat persistently viremic until they test positive on the IFA test. If it turns out the cat you rescued is really FELV positive, she is not going to transmit the virus to your other cats through some chance encounter. It would take prolonged contact with your other cats to infect them with the virus. Even if they had prolonged contact, it does not mean your other cats would get the virus. Some cats are able to build an immune response and fight off the virus. I rescued a cat over the summer that tested positive on the combo snap test and the ELISA test but tested negative on the IFA. Thirty days later, he tested negative on the snap test, the ELISA test and continued to test negative on the IFA test. As a precaution, we tested again 30 days later, and he continued to test negative on all three tests. His body built an immune defense and fought off the virus --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 1:50 PM Hello, I rescued a stray two weeks ago. Took her to the vet a week ago and they said she was FELV positive. She was starving when I found her, but she has gained weight and is looking good. Her eyes just glisten and she seems healthy. The vet said she was about a year old. She only weighed six pounds last week. I did not have the heart to euthanize her when she is not suffering. However, I have three healthy cats upstairs and I live in constant fear that they will escape to the basement where this cat we now call Amber is staying. I keep her in a nice cage during most of the time and let her out to get her exercise in the basement about four hours per day. My husband is building her a 8' long x 4' wide x 6' tall cage so she will have more room I do hate keeping her caged up, but don't have a choice. She is very sweet and it is just a sad situation. I tried to find a home for her but no one seems to want a cat with her issues. We are trying to be very cautious regarding the other cats, but it is does make me fearful. I plan to have her rested in three months. I am so new to this situation, so any comments or ideas are much appreciated. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman
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MY 2 BABIES HAD JUST BEEN SPAYED AND NEUTERED AND VET SAID DON'T GIVE FOOD OR LET OUT UNTIL THE AM. THEY WERE PRACTICALLY RIPPING THE CARRIERS APART AND SCREAMING TO GET OUT. SO I LET THEM OUT AND THEY STOPPED THE SCREAMING. ALL THEY WANTED WAS T SIT ON MY LAP AND SNUGGLE AND THEY FELT THEY WERE BEING PUNISHED. THEN THEY WANTED TO EAT, SO I PUT 1 JAR BABY FOOD IN A BOWL AND ADDED 1 JAR OF WARM WATER. THEY SCARFED IT DOWN IN NO TIME AND NEVER LOOKED BACK. BY THE NEXT MORNING THEY WERE CLIMBING THE ROCK FIREPLACE. SO BBY FOOD IS GOOD. Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: Jeanne, you already received some good advise about feeding Scooter. The Feline Assist Feeding group has some good files that will help you assist feed Scooter. Here is the link. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/ I've found food to be the best appetite stimulant. Often several small meals works better than a couple of larger meals. Gently warmed meat baby food (no onions or garlic) is a favorite at our house. Mine prefer Gerber's 2 Chicken and Gravy. The advantage is a jar has 100 calories. You can offer it straight or mixed with Scooter's regular food. Good luck Sharyl --- On Thu, 3/4/10, jeanne ogrady jobarbied...@yahoo.com wrote: From: jeanne ogrady jobarbied...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] any advice To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 2:07 PM HI MY CAT SCOOTER HAS FELINE LEUK. SHE IS STARTING TO STRUGGLE EATING ON AND OFF. ANY ADVISE ABOUT DRUGS TO BOOST THE IMMUNE SYSTEM. OR OTHER METHODS THAT ANYONE HAS TRIED. THANKS MUCH APPRECIATED. JEANNE ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Interferon worked great for us. Try stinky foods (Fancy Feast, Solid gold tuna, etc). Good info at Feline assisted feeding yahoo group about anorexia. Can sprinkle tuna flakes on her food to stimulate appetite, too. WATCH FOR DIARRHEA if you are trying new foods. Important to keep her eating. Glad you posted about it. Wonder if she has a URI? If they can't smell, they won't eat. Any trouble breathing? Given a choice, they will breathe before eating. Good luck to you and Scooter. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jeanne ogrady Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] any advice HI MY CAT SCOOTER HAS FELINE LEUK. SHE IS STARTING TO STRUGGLE EATING ON AND OFF. ANY ADVISE ABOUT DRUGS TO BOOST THE IMMUNE SYSTEM. OR OTHER METHODS THAT ANYONE HAS TRIED. THANKS MUCH APPRECIATED. JEANNE ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Jeanne - So sorry to hear about your baby not feeling good. I would get her in for some bloodwork ASAP. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Thu, 3/4/10, jeanne ogrady jobarbied...@yahoo.com wrote: From: jeanne ogrady jobarbied...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] any advice To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 2:07 PM HI MY CAT SCOOTER HAS FELINE LEUK. SHE IS STARTING TO STRUGGLE EATING ON AND OFF. ANY ADVISE ABOUT DRUGS TO BOOST THE IMMUNE SYSTEM. OR OTHER METHODS THAT ANYONE HAS TRIED. THANKS MUCH APPRECIATED. JEANNE ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Jeanne, you already received some good advise about feeding Scooter. The Feline Assist Feeding group has some good files that will help you assist feed Scooter. Here is the link. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/ I've found food to be the best appetite stimulant. Often several small meals works better than a couple of larger meals. Gently warmed meat baby food (no onions or garlic) is a favorite at our house. Mine prefer Gerber's 2 Chicken and Gravy. The advantage is a jar has 100 calories. You can offer it straight or mixed with Scooter's regular food. Good luck Sharyl --- On Thu, 3/4/10, jeanne ogrady jobarbied...@yahoo.com wrote: From: jeanne ogrady jobarbied...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] any advice To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 2:07 PM HI MY CAT SCOOTER HAS FELINE LEUK. SHE IS STARTING TO STRUGGLE EATING ON AND OFF. ANY ADVISE ABOUT DRUGS TO BOOST THE IMMUNE SYSTEM. OR OTHER METHODS THAT ANYONE HAS TRIED. THANKS MUCH APPRECIATED. JEANNE ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
