Re: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style
Maybe leave a tv or radio on??? The new one is probably used to someone around 24/7. On Jul 29, 2011, at 9:54 PM, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: I also got my new ones suddenly so I had a few hissing, slapping episodes to begin with, but now we are settld down to just a few episodes. Mostly it happens when someone rounds a corner at the same time as someone else coming from te opposite direction. It has never gone beyond slaps and hisses. Becuse of the felv issus, you might have to isolate her at first, but ifyou gve her lots of love wen you get home and don't ignore your boy, shouldn't be too bad. Maybe a friend/neighbor could come in for a few minutes each day and love on both of them to comfort them? Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote: Bonnie, Email me at taylore...@msn.com and I can send you my tried and true Cat Intro 101 instructions :) Edna From: ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 14:20:02 -0700 Subject: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style Hi Everyone Life can be stressful sometimes. My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her cat. I took my mom's cat, Lucky, last Fall, and he's become part of the household very nicely. This little cat, Princess, is a sweet and mild- mannered little one. I took her to the vet today for a checkup and unfortunately he spied a growth on her tongue. He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm picking her up in a couple hours. The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to prepare. And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week (eek). I can put her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes back. But I don't want her to be freaked out or too frightened. I'm hoping that instead of a three weeks, I can try to integrate her in a week or two. This will make FIVE indoor cats for me. I've never had so many. The vet said, Well, four or five isn't much different. Bless him. What's the conventional wisdom out there? Leave her in the room 7-14 days, or longer? Thanks for your input! Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style
Hi Bonnie, Thank you for taking your aunt's cat. From description you gave us, it sounds like Princess will be no problem at all to integrate into your household. I think she will be more comfortable confined to one room at first, as it is overwhelming to have an entire house plus 4 other cats all at once. Your vet is correct.. Five cats are no more trouble than four. I thought I had a lot when I took in my fifth cat, and now I have 15 All rescued. Thankfully our house is large and they also have three outdoor enclosures they can access from the house. Let us know what the biopsy results show. I hope she is FelV neg. and the biopsy is benign. Lorrie On 07-29, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Hi Everyone Life can be stressful sometimes. My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her cat. I took my mom's cat, Lucky, last Fall, and he's become part of the household very nicely. This little cat, Princess, is a sweet and mild-mannered little one. I took her to the vet today for a checkup and unfortunately he spied a growth on her tongue. He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm picking her up in a couple hours. The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to prepare. And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week (eek). I can put her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes back. But I don't want her to be freaked out or too frightened. I'm hoping that instead of a three weeks, I can try to integrate her in a week or two. This will make FIVE indoor cats for me. I've never had so many. The vet said, Well, four or five isn't much different. Bless him. What's the conventional wisdom out there? Leave her in the room 7-14 days, or longer? Thanks for your input! Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style
Thanks for your responses! I appreciate it. Princess got the in-office Felv test and was negative (thank goodness). The biopsy result should be available Mon. or Tue. but the vet said it looked rather nasty... Poor little think peed in the cage and now smells pretty bad. I'm thinking of bathing her (more trauma!) but want to give her a few days to acclimate. She finally came out from under the bed this morning and let me pet her while she ate. What a little sweetheart. She has the prettiest little pointy face. She looks like she is smiling. And she purred while I pet her, so hopefully she understands she is not in danger. Will keep you posted! B. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 4:33 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style Hi Bonnie, Thank you for taking your aunt's cat. From description you gave us, it sounds like Princess will be no problem at all to integrate into your household. I think she will be more comfortable confined to one room at first, as it is overwhelming to have an entire house plus 4 other cats all at once. Your vet is correct.. Five cats are no more trouble than four. I thought I had a lot when I took in my fifth cat, and now I have 15 All rescued. Thankfully our house is large and they also have three outdoor enclosures they can access from the house. Let us know what the biopsy results show. I hope she is FelV neg. and the biopsy is benign. Lorrie On 07-29, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Hi Everyone Life can be stressful sometimes. My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her cat. I took my mom's cat, Lucky, last Fall, and he's become part of the household very nicely. This little cat, Princess, is a sweet and mild-mannered little one. I took her to the vet today for a checkup and unfortunately he spied a growth on her tongue. He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm picking her up in a couple hours. The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to prepare. And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week (eek). I can put her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes back. But I don't want her to be freaked out or too frightened. I'm hoping that instead of a three weeks, I can try to integrate her in a week or two. This will make FIVE indoor cats for me. I've never had so many. The vet said, Well, four or five isn't much different. Bless him. What's the conventional wisdom out there? Leave her in the room 7-14 days, or longer? Thanks for your input! Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style
I already have picked out a no kill shelter. All my people have to do is transport my pride there. I have made provision for their expenses for transportation and the rest goes to the shelter. They have houses with reglar furniture for the cats to sleep on and outdoor areas fo them also. Most of my friends/family I have left are almost as old as I am and dumping seveal cats on them is asking a bit much. A good shelter that taks FELV babies is the answer. It may not be the same as home, but I think it is the solution for them. Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: That's very nice of you - I wish more people would care for their relatives' petsevery day, there's a notice or phone call about someone's mother/father, aunt/uncle either dying or moving to assisted living, and every time it sounds almost like blackmail: If someone doesn't take this cat/dog, I'm either going to throw it outside or bring it to a shelter, mostly kill shelters! You should see some of the photos of these beautiful animals, living in the lap of luxury while their parent were taking care of them, on sofas, elaborate beds, pampered...and these poor animals would have to end up like that? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 5:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style Hi Everyone Life can be stressful sometimes. My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her cat. I took my mom's cat, Lucky, last Fall, and he's become part of the household very nicely. This little cat, Princess, is a sweet and mild-mannered little one. I took her to the vet today for a checkup and unfortunately he spied a growth on her tongue. He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm picking her up in a couple hours. The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to prepare. And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week (eek). I can put her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes back. But I don't want her to be freaked out or too frightened. I'm hoping that instead of a three weeks, I can try to integrate her in a week or two. This will make FIVE indoor cats for me. I've never had so many. The vet said, Well, four or five isn't much different. Bless him. What's the conventional wisdom out there? Leave her in the room 7-14 days, or longer? Thanks for your input! Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style
Hi Everyone Life can be stressful sometimes. My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her cat. I took my mom's cat, Lucky, last Fall, and he's become part of the household very nicely. This little cat, Princess, is a sweet and mild-mannered little one. I took her to the vet today for a checkup and unfortunately he spied a growth on her tongue. He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm picking her up in a couple hours. The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to prepare. And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week (eek). I can put her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes back. But I don't want her to be freaked out or too frightened. I'm hoping that instead of a three weeks, I can try to integrate her in a week or two. This will make FIVE indoor cats for me. I've never had so many. The vet said, Well, four or five isn't much different. Bless him. What's the conventional wisdom out there? Leave her in the room 7-14 days, or longer? Thanks for your input! Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style
That's very nice of you - I wish more people would care for their relatives' petsevery day, there's a notice or phone call about someone's mother/father, aunt/uncle either dying or moving to assisted living, and every time it sounds almost like blackmail: If someone doesn't take this cat/dog, I'm either going to throw it outside or bring it to a shelter, mostly kill shelters! You should see some of the photos of these beautiful animals, living in the lap of luxury while their parent were taking care of them, on sofas, elaborate beds, pampered...and these poor animals would have to end up like that? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 5:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style Hi Everyone Life can be stressful sometimes. My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her cat. I took my mom's cat, Lucky, last Fall, and he's become part of the household very nicely. This little cat, Princess, is a sweet and mild-mannered little one. I took her to the vet today for a checkup and unfortunately he spied a growth on her tongue. He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm picking her up in a couple hours. The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to prepare. And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week (eek). I can put her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes back. But I don't want her to be freaked out or too frightened. I'm hoping that instead of a three weeks, I can try to integrate her in a week or two. This will make FIVE indoor cats for me. I've never had so many. The vet said, Well, four or five isn't much different. Bless him. What's the conventional wisdom out there? Leave her in the room 7-14 days, or longer? Thanks for your input! Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style
Sorry, didn't reply to your other question What I would normally do, would be to keep Princess in a separate room for a few days, exchange the cats beddings so that they can intermingle the scentsthen, if you have one, place her in a large cage, with a sheet over the sleeping area for privacy, that way the other 4 cats and she could meet safely...I always do that when I introduce a new cat to a large group of cats. Sometimes it takes a few days, sometimes more, depending on how the cats ineract. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 5:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style Hi Everyone Life can be stressful sometimes. My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her cat. I took my mom's cat, Lucky, last Fall, and he's become part of the household very nicely. This little cat, Princess, is a sweet and mild-mannered little one. I took her to the vet today for a checkup and unfortunately he spied a growth on her tongue. He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm picking her up in a couple hours. The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to prepare. And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week (eek). I can put her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes back. But I don't want her to be freaked out or too frightened. I'm hoping that instead of a three weeks, I can try to integrate her in a week or two. This will make FIVE indoor cats for me. I've never had so many. The vet said, Well, four or five isn't much different. Bless him. What's the conventional wisdom out there? Leave her in the room 7-14 days, or longer? Thanks for your input! Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style
You will be fine. I suggest you rub the other cats with a towel and put it where she can smell it and do the same to her. This really does help. I love Feliway and use it frequently but I use the spray. I use Rescue Remedy too. On Jul 29, 2011, at 4:20 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Hi Everyone Life can be stressful sometimes. My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her cat. I took my mom's cat, Lucky, last Fall, and he's become part of the household very nicely. This little cat, Princess, is a sweet and mild- mannered little one. I took her to the vet today for a checkup and unfortunately he spied a growth on her tongue. He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm picking her up in a couple hours. The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to prepare. And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week (eek). I can put her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes back. But I don't want her to be freaked out or too frightened. I'm hoping that instead of a three weeks, I can try to integrate her in a week or two. This will make FIVE indoor cats for me. I've never had so many. The vet said, Well, four or five isn't much different. Bless him. What's the conventional wisdom out there? Leave her in the room 7-14 days, or longer? Thanks for your input! Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style
Proof that animals need to be provided for in wills. On Jul 29, 2011, at 4:32 PM, Natalie wrote: That's very nice of you - I wish more people would care for their relatives' petsevery day, there's a notice or phone call about someone's mother/father, aunt/uncle either dying or moving to assisted living, and every time it sounds almost like blackmail: If someone doesn't take this cat/dog, I'm either going to throw it outside or bring it to a shelter, mostly kill shelters! You should see some of the photos of these beautiful animals, living in the lap of luxury while their parent were taking care of them, on sofas, elaborate beds, pampered...and these poor animals would have to end up like that? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 5:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style Hi Everyone Life can be stressful sometimes. My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her cat. I took my mom's cat, Lucky, last Fall, and he's become part of the household very nicely. This little cat, Princess, is a sweet and mild- mannered little one. I took her to the vet today for a checkup and unfortunately he spied a growth on her tongue. He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm picking her up in a couple hours. The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to prepare. And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week (eek). I can put her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes back. But I don't want her to be freaked out or too frightened. I'm hoping that instead of a three weeks, I can try to integrate her in a week or two. This will make FIVE indoor cats for me. I've never had so many. The vet said, Well, four or five isn't much different. Bless him. What's the conventional wisdom out there? Leave her in the room 7-14 days, or longer? Thanks for your input! Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style
Bonnie, Email me at taylore...@msn.com and I can send you my tried and true Cat Intro 101 instructions :) Edna From: ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 14:20:02 -0700 Subject: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style Hi Everyone Life can be stressful sometimes. My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her cat. I took my mom's cat, Lucky, last Fall, and he's become part of the household very nicely. This little cat, Princess, is a sweet and mild-mannered little one. I took her to the vet today for a checkup and unfortunately he spied a growth on her tongue. He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm picking her up in a couple hours. The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to prepare. And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week (eek). I can put her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes back. But I don't want her to be freaked out or too frightened. I'm hoping that instead of a three weeks, I can try to integrate her in a week or two. This will make FIVE indoor cats for me. I've never had so many. The vet said, Well, four or five isn't much different. Bless him. What's the conventional wisdom out there? Leave her in the room 7-14 days, or longer? Thanks for your input! Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style
I also got my new ones suddenly so I had a few hissing, slapping episodes to begin with, but now we are settld down to just a few episodes. Mostly it happens when someone rounds a corner at the same time as someone else coming from te opposite direction. It has never gone beyond slaps and hisses. Becuse of the felv issus, you might have to isolate her at first, but ifyou gve her lots of love wen you get home and don't ignore your boy, shouldn't be too bad. Maybe a friend/neighbor could come in for a few minutes each day and love on both of them to comfort them? Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote: Bonnie, Email me at taylore...@msn.com and I can send you my tried and true Cat Intro 101 instructions :) Edna From: ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 14:20:02 -0700 Subject: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style Hi Everyone Life can be stressful sometimes. My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her cat. I took my mom's cat, Lucky, last Fall, and he's become part of the household very nicely. This little cat, Princess, is a sweet and mild-mannered little one. I took her to the vet today for a checkup and unfortunately he spied a growth on her tongue. He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm picking her up in a couple hours. The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to prepare. And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week (eek). I can put her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes back. But I don't want her to be freaked out or too frightened. I'm hoping that instead of a three weeks, I can try to integrate her in a week or two. This will make FIVE indoor cats for me. I've never had so many. The vet said, Well, four or five isn't much different. Bless him. What's the conventional wisdom out there? Leave her in the room 7-14 days, or longer? Thanks for your input! Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] testing a new cat ~ when and what test
Hi Laurie, Personally we only test cats once with the SNAP test if it comes back negative. We start the vaccination series immediately upon getting a negative SNAP result. Certainly I wouldn't go to the expense of an IFA if you have a previous negative SNAP test. But, as everything, it is an individual decision. Here is a chart from the main site that may help you. http://www.felineleukemia.org/felvhlth.html On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I rescued a mama kitty and one kitten 2 months ago. Both mama and kitten tested negative for FeLV August 3. Mama stayed at vet office for 19 days. Lots of cats go through there because she is low cost SN who works with rescue. Mama has been at my house in a two room suite (with 2 sets of doors between her and my cats) for a month. I am taking her to local vet tomorrow for a check up (she has had a big belly since arrivinghas lost some of it with controlled feeding). I want to make sure she is healthy before exposing her to my five negatives. I am hoping to keep her. She's pretty timid and has a tendency to bite while she is grooming me so I worry about placing her in an adoptive home. I plan to have her tested for FeLV a second time tomorrow. Should I do the SNAP again or the one that tests bone marrow? Is 30 days in my house long enough or should I wait longer? She was in a cage at vet's office but the high cat traffic does concern me. Thanks! Laurie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with the Friday Night Lights' kittens medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/the-friday-night-lights-kittens Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] testing a new cat ~ when and what test
Most people will probably suggest another test, but I would be satisfied with another snap test. If all your own cats are negative and vaccinated I doubt there would be a problem. (Seriously doubt. like 99-1) even if she tested positive and you mixed her with adult vaccinated cats. Also, when I say my adults are vaccinated I don't mean that they are vaccinated yearly. When they were kittens they got their first dose and a booster. Then I vaccinate again the 2nd and 3rd year. After that, I don't vaccinate them anymore. And I've never had the virus transferred even though I've brought in several positives. tonya Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I rescued a mama kitty and one kitten 2 months ago. Both mama and kitten tested negative for FeLV August 3. Mama stayed at vet office for 19 days. Lots of cats go through there because she is low cost SN who works with rescue. Mama has been at my house in a two room suite (with 2 sets of doors between her and my cats) for a month. I am taking her to local vet tomorrow for a check up (she has had a big belly since arrivinghas lost some of it with controlled feeding). I want to make sure she is healthy before exposing her to my five negatives. I am hoping to keep her. She's pretty timid and has a tendency to bite while she is grooming me so I worry about placing her in an adoptive home. I plan to have her tested for FeLV a second time tomorrow. Should I do the SNAP again or the one that tests bone marrow? Is 30 days in my house long enough or should I wait longer? She was in a cage at vet's office but the high cat traffic does concern me. Thanks! Laurie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] testing a new cat ~ when and what test
Internal med specialist suggested the SNAP and if it came back Positive, to do the bone marrow test. Both she and general practice vet said it would be good timing to test now. I am pleased to tell you Tessa tested negative for FeLV and FIV. However, she had a flea...and had been treated with Frontline in August. SO I am discouraged because at least one of my other cats has flea allergies. There is a new med that you give the cat every other day that kills the flea as it starts to bite. She will have that for 5 doses. BTW Tonya, thanks for responding. I, too, no longer vaccinate for FeLV. My cats have had several annuals following the first dose and booster. My general practice vet believes that the first and booster and one annual are sufficient. L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 5:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] testing a new cat ~ when and what test Most people will probably suggest another test, but I would be satisfied with another snap test. If all your own cats are negative and vaccinated I doubt there would be a problem. (Seriously doubt. like 99-1) even if she tested positive and you mixed her with adult vaccinated cats. Also, when I say my adults are vaccinated I don't mean that they are vaccinated yearly. When they were kittens they got their first dose and a booster. Then I vaccinate again the 2nd and 3rd year. After that, I don't vaccinate them anymore. And I've never had the virus transferred even though I've brought in several positives. tonya Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I rescued a mama kitty and one kitten 2 months ago. Both mama and kitten tested negative for FeLV August 3. Mama stayed at vet office for 19 days. Lots of cats go through there because she is low cost SN who works with rescue. Mama has been at my house in a two room suite (with 2 sets of doors between her and my cats) for a month. I am taking her to local vet tomorrow for a check up (she has had a big belly since arrivinghas lost some of it with controlled feeding). I want to make sure she is healthy before exposing her to my five negatives. I am hoping to keep her. She's pretty timid and has a tendency to bite while she is grooming me so I worry about placing her in an adoptive home. I plan to have her tested for FeLV a second time tomorrow. Should I do the SNAP again or the one that tests bone marrow? Is 30 days in my house long enough or should I wait longer? She was in a cage at vet's office but the high cat traffic does concern me. Thanks! Laurie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] testing a new cat ~ when and what test
I rescued a mama kitty and one kitten 2 months ago. Both mama and kitten tested negative for FeLV August 3. Mama stayed at vet office for 19 days. Lots of cats go through there because she is low cost SN who works with rescue. Mama has been at my house in a two room suite (with 2 sets of doors between her and my cats) for a month. I am taking her to local vet tomorrow for a check up (she has had a big belly since arrivinghas lost some of it with controlled feeding). I want to make sure she is healthy before exposing her to my five negatives. I am hoping to keep her. She's pretty timid and has a tendency to bite while she is grooming me so I worry about placing her in an adoptive home. I plan to have her tested for FeLV a second time tomorrow. Should I do the SNAP again or the one that tests bone marrow? Is 30 days in my house long enough or should I wait longer? She was in a cage at vet's office but the high cat traffic does concern me. Thanks! Laurie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: Balance of puddy cats ~ new cat?
ps re adding another. You never know. My friend just added a third cat to his 2 female cat, 2 male golden retriever household. Rocco has been a perfect addition, bringing out the best in each of the other cats. The dogs are terrified of him! Part of it, I think, is he kept Rocco isolated for quite a while and did slow introductions (followed Pam Johnson Bennett's suggestions). Another friend introduced a male kitten to her two old boy cats and dog. They do mostly fine with occasional annoyance directed toward the kitten, now one year old. White I still had 6 cats (now only 5), I tried to introduce an older, disabled male foster cat and then a neglected male foster kitten. My youngest boys would have none of it. They harrassed and chased and fought with the new one. The older boy was adopted by one friend and the kitten by another. The kitten was accepted warmly by the 2 resident (adult male litter mate cats) in his new home. The older boy got along with the dogs in his new home. I think, like people, the personalities make a difference. L - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 1:53 PM Subject: Re: Balance of puddy cats I know mine miss the stolen ones. Shimmer is my eldest, he is 12 now, and not too much into the antics of the young ones. Missy is my kitty with congenital heart disease, and she self-limits her play. That leaves Tuffy no one really to play with when I am gone, and I think she is lonely and confused. On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 10:38 PM, laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sure mine do. After Stripes died, Squeaky kept urinating on the paper towel roll. I would replace and he'd urinate again. The vet said it was grief. It stopped after a couple weeks ~ dind't have this behavior before or after. They were best pals for 15 years. After Teddy died, I almost lost Coco. I know she was grieving for him. They were inseparable. It was heartbreaking. She has never been like that with another cat but is with me now. L - Original Message - From: Sally Davis To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 9:02 PM Subject: Balance of puddy cats Hi Folks, You never know if the other cats miss a deceased cat. I figure for the most part mine don't. I am now rethinking that. Being cats they are subtle about their emotions. Well Right now I have 5 cats on my bed, no room for me unless I move one. And Grey and White who shows her dislike for me more often than not has been lovey dovey towards me. Not sure that will last but there does seem to be a change in her behavior. I am was not sure...contemplating taking on another felk cat who is at a Vet Clinic not far from me. However I am not sure how the stress of many cats would affect this cat. I am not sure how a new cat will affect my cats. Mostly they will go OH another one I have not talked with the owner yet. She has a home for it in May but cannot house the cat until that time. Anyway, just thinking out loud. Emotionally I am not sure I can handle another 'sick' cat. I know it is a crap shoot with these guys even with the best care. Maybe I will keep him until May. Well I hope everyone is well and the kitties slaves as well :-) Sally -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soul mate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Clarissa! http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart http://www.change.org/rescuties
Re: Balance of puddy cats ~ new cat?
I am really on the fence about this. On one hand I would like to think fate is intervening. A felk near me. He was just neutered 1.5 yo needs a home. May have a home in IOWA I am in VA. The person in IA cannot take until May but deals with FELV cats. I have not talked to the owner or I should say caretaker she is not able to keep the cat until then. Right now the cat is still at the Vet clinic. i have only spoken with a siamese rescue person who got involved bc it is siamese. They cannot house due to teh felk. I had a part Siamese cat 4 years ago and will always miss the funny boy named Puttyrat See my email addy. I am just too tired to talk to this lady today. I had a root canal started Friday and my mouth still hurts. Hard to be upbeat when I am in pain. I think the cats will be taken care of, but I kinda would like the Siamese boy. Sally On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 4:57 PM, laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ps re adding another. You never know. My friend just added a third cat to his 2 female cat, 2 male golden retriever household. Rocco has been a perfect addition, bringing out the best in each of the other cats. The dogs are terrified of him! Part of it, I think, is he kept Rocco isolated for quite a while and did slow introductions (followed Pam Johnson Bennett's suggestions). Another friend introduced a male kitten to her two old boy cats and dog. They do mostly fine with occasional annoyance directed toward the kitten, now one year old. White I still had 6 cats (now only 5), I tried to introduce an older, disabled male foster cat and then a neglected male foster kitten. My youngest boys would have none of it. They harrassed and chased and fought with the new one. The older boy was adopted by one friend and the kitten by another. The kitten was accepted warmly by the 2 resident (adult male litter mate cats) in his new home. The older boy got along with the dogs in his new home. I think, like people, the personalities make a difference. L - Original Message - *From:* Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Sunday, March 30, 2008 1:53 PM *Subject:* Re: Balance of puddy cats I know mine miss the stolen ones. Shimmer is my eldest, he is 12 now, and not too much into the antics of the young ones. Missy is my kitty with congenital heart disease, and she self-limits her play. That leaves Tuffy no one really to play with when I am gone, and I think she is lonely and confused. On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 10:38 PM, laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sure mine do. After Stripes died, Squeaky kept urinating on the paper towel roll. I would replace and he'd urinate again. The vet said it was grief. It stopped after a couple weeks ~ dind't have this behavior before or after. They were best pals for 15 years. After Teddy died, I almost lost Coco. I know she was grieving for him. They were inseparable. It was heartbreaking. She has never been like that with another cat but is with me now. L - Original Message - *From:* Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Saturday, March 29, 2008 9:02 PM *Subject:* Balance of puddy cats Hi Folks, You never know if the other cats miss a deceased cat. I figure for the most part mine don't. I am now rethinking that. Being cats they are subtle about their emotions. Well Right now I have 5 cats on my bed, no room for me unless I move one. And Grey and White who shows her dislike for me more often than not has been lovey dovey towards me. Not sure that will last but there does seem to be a change in her behavior. I am was not sure...contemplating taking on another felk cat who is at a Vet Clinic not far from me. However I am not sure how the stress of many cats would affect this cat. I am not sure how a new cat will affect my cats. Mostly they will go OH another one I have not talked with the owner yet. She has a home for it in May but cannot house the cat until that time. Anyway, just thinking out loud. Emotionally I am not sure I can handle another 'sick' cat. I know it is a crap shoot with these guys even with the best care. Maybe I will keep him until May. Well I hope everyone is well and the kitties slaves as well :-) Sally -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soul mate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid
Re: Balance of puddy cats ~ new cat IA sancutary?
Sally, Is the Iowa contact a sanctuary? Is it Carmen? If not, BEWARE. Please feel free to email me privately. I am from Iowa and know the folks here. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Sally Davis To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 5:52 PM Subject: Re: Balance of puddy cats ~ new cat? I am really on the fence about this. On one hand I would like to think fate is intervening. A felk near me. He was just neutered 1.5 yo needs a home. May have a home in IOWA I am in VA. The person in IA cannot take until May but deals with FELV cats. I have not talked to the owner or I should say caretaker she is not able to keep the cat until then. Right now the cat is still at the Vet clinic. i have only spoken with a siamese rescue person who got involved bc it is siamese. They cannot house due to teh felk. I had a part Siamese cat 4 years ago and will always miss the funny boy named Puttyrat See my email addy. I am just too tired to talk to this lady today. I had a root canal started Friday and my mouth still hurts. Hard to be upbeat when I am in pain. I think the cats will be taken care of, but I kinda would like the Siamese boy. Sally On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 4:57 PM, laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ps re adding another. You never know. My friend just added a third cat to his 2 female cat, 2 male golden retriever household. Rocco has been a perfect addition, bringing out the best in each of the other cats. The dogs are terrified of him! Part of it, I think, is he kept Rocco isolated for quite a while and did slow introductions (followed Pam Johnson Bennett's suggestions). Another friend introduced a male kitten to her two old boy cats and dog. They do mostly fine with occasional annoyance directed toward the kitten, now one year old. White I still had 6 cats (now only 5), I tried to introduce an older, disabled male foster cat and then a neglected male foster kitten. My youngest boys would have none of it. They harrassed and chased and fought with the new one. The older boy was adopted by one friend and the kitten by another. The kitten was accepted warmly by the 2 resident (adult male litter mate cats) in his new home. The older boy got along with the dogs in his new home. I think, like people, the personalities make a difference. L - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 1:53 PM Subject: Re: Balance of puddy cats I know mine miss the stolen ones. Shimmer is my eldest, he is 12 now, and not too much into the antics of the young ones. Missy is my kitty with congenital heart disease, and she self-limits her play. That leaves Tuffy no one really to play with when I am gone, and I think she is lonely and confused. On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 10:38 PM, laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sure mine do. After Stripes died, Squeaky kept urinating on the paper towel roll. I would replace and he'd urinate again. The vet said it was grief. It stopped after a couple weeks ~ dind't have this behavior before or after. They were best pals for 15 years. After Teddy died, I almost lost Coco. I know she was grieving for him. They were inseparable. It was heartbreaking. She has never been like that with another cat but is with me now. L - Original Message - From: Sally Davis To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 9:02 PM Subject: Balance of puddy cats Hi Folks, You never know if the other cats miss a deceased cat. I figure for the most part mine don't. I am now rethinking that. Being cats they are subtle about their emotions. Well Right now I have 5 cats on my bed, no room for me unless I move one. And Grey and White who shows her dislike for me more often than not has been lovey dovey towards me. Not sure that will last but there does seem to be a change in her behavior. I am was not sure...contemplating taking on another felk cat who is at a Vet Clinic not far from me. However I am not sure how the stress of many cats would affect this cat. I am not sure how a new cat will affect my cats. Mostly they will go OH another one I have not talked with the owner yet. She has a home for it in May but cannot house the cat until that time. Anyway, just thinking out loud. Emotionally I am not sure I can handle another 'sick' cat. I know it is a crap shoot with these guys even with the best care. Maybe I will keep him until May. Well I hope everyone is well and the kitties slaves as well :-) Sally -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soul mate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him
Re: Balance of puddy cats ~ new cat IA sancutary?
Laurie I do not think so. The person is a guy who supposedly looks after Felk cats possibly holistically his email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does this match your information. Belinda who is in Siamese rescue lead me to believe he has been checked out. I may be able to get more information tomorrow. What is the sanctuaries name? Sally On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 9:17 PM, laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sally, Is the Iowa contact a sanctuary? Is it Carmen? If not, BEWARE. Please feel free to email me privately. I am from Iowa and know the folks here. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - *From:* Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Sunday, March 30, 2008 5:52 PM *Subject:* Re: Balance of puddy cats ~ new cat? I am really on the fence about this. On one hand I would like to think fate is intervening. A felk near me. He was just neutered 1.5 yo needs a home. May have a home in IOWA I am in VA. The person in IA cannot take until May but deals with FELV cats. I have not talked to the owner or I should say caretaker she is not able to keep the cat until then. Right now the cat is still at the Vet clinic. i have only spoken with a siamese rescue person who got involved bc it is siamese. They cannot house due to teh felk. I had a part Siamese cat 4 years ago and will always miss the funny boy named Puttyrat See my email addy. I am just too tired to talk to this lady today. I had a root canal started Friday and my mouth still hurts. Hard to be upbeat when I am in pain. I think the cats will be taken care of, but I kinda would like the Siamese boy. Sally On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 4:57 PM, laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ps re adding another. You never know. My friend just added a third cat to his 2 female cat, 2 male golden retriever household. Rocco has been a perfect addition, bringing out the best in each of the other cats. The dogs are terrified of him! Part of it, I think, is he kept Rocco isolated for quite a while and did slow introductions (followed Pam Johnson Bennett's suggestions). Another friend introduced a male kitten to her two old boy cats and dog. They do mostly fine with occasional annoyance directed toward the kitten, now one year old. White I still had 6 cats (now only 5), I tried to introduce an older, disabled male foster cat and then a neglected male foster kitten. My youngest boys would have none of it. They harrassed and chased and fought with the new one. The older boy was adopted by one friend and the kitten by another. The kitten was accepted warmly by the 2 resident (adult male litter mate cats) in his new home. The older boy got along with the dogs in his new home. I think, like people, the personalities make a difference. L - Original Message - *From:* Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Sunday, March 30, 2008 1:53 PM *Subject:* Re: Balance of puddy cats I know mine miss the stolen ones. Shimmer is my eldest, he is 12 now, and not too much into the antics of the young ones. Missy is my kitty with congenital heart disease, and she self-limits her play. That leaves Tuffy no one really to play with when I am gone, and I think she is lonely and confused. On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 10:38 PM, laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sure mine do. After Stripes died, Squeaky kept urinating on the paper towel roll. I would replace and he'd urinate again. The vet said it was grief. It stopped after a couple weeks ~ dind't have this behavior before or after. They were best pals for 15 years. After Teddy died, I almost lost Coco. I know she was grieving for him. They were inseparable. It was heartbreaking. She has never been like that with another cat but is with me now. L - Original Message - *From:* Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Saturday, March 29, 2008 9:02 PM *Subject:* Balance of puddy cats Hi Folks, You never know if the other cats miss a deceased cat. I figure for the most part mine don't. I am now rethinking that. Being cats they are subtle about their emotions. Well Right now I have 5 cats on my bed, no room for me unless I move one. And Grey and White who shows her dislike for me more often than not has been lovey dovey towards me. Not sure that will last but there does seem to be a change in her behavior. I am was not sure...contemplating taking on another felk cat who is at a Vet Clinic not far from me. However I am not sure how the stress of many cats would affect this cat. I am not sure how a new cat will affect my cats. Mostly they will go OH another one I have not talked with the owner yet. She has a home for it in May but cannot house the cat until that time. Anyway, just thinking out loud. Emotionally I am
Re: Balance of puddy cats ~ new cat IA sancutary?
Sally, I prefer not to discuss in the forum format. Would be happy to discuss via private email or by phone. Thanks Laurie - Original Message - From: Sally Davis To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 7:43 PM Subject: Re: Balance of puddy cats ~ new cat IA sancutary? Laurie I do not think so. The person is a guy who supposedly looks after Felk cats possibly holistically his email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does this match your information. Belinda who is in Siamese rescue lead me to believe he has been checked out. I may be able to get more information tomorrow. What is the sanctuaries name? Sally On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 9:17 PM, laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sally, Is the Iowa contact a sanctuary? Is it Carmen? If not, BEWARE. Please feel free to email me privately. I am from Iowa and know the folks here. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Sally Davis To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 5:52 PM Subject: Re: Balance of puddy cats ~ new cat? I am really on the fence about this. On one hand I would like to think fate is intervening. A felk near me. He was just neutered 1.5 yo needs a home. May have a home in IOWA I am in VA. The person in IA cannot take until May but deals with FELV cats. I have not talked to the owner or I should say caretaker she is not able to keep the cat until then. Right now the cat is still at the Vet clinic. i have only spoken with a siamese rescue person who got involved bc it is siamese. They cannot house due to teh felk. I had a part Siamese cat 4 years ago and will always miss the funny boy named Puttyrat See my email addy. I am just too tired to talk to this lady today. I had a root canal started Friday and my mouth still hurts. Hard to be upbeat when I am in pain. I think the cats will be taken care of, but I kinda would like the Siamese boy. Sally On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 4:57 PM, laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ps re adding another. You never know. My friend just added a third cat to his 2 female cat, 2 male golden retriever household. Rocco has been a perfect addition, bringing out the best in each of the other cats. The dogs are terrified of him! Part of it, I think, is he kept Rocco isolated for quite a while and did slow introductions (followed Pam Johnson Bennett's suggestions). Another friend introduced a male kitten to her two old boy cats and dog. They do mostly fine with occasional annoyance directed toward the kitten, now one year old. White I still had 6 cats (now only 5), I tried to introduce an older, disabled male foster cat and then a neglected male foster kitten. My youngest boys would have none of it. They harrassed and chased and fought with the new one. The older boy was adopted by one friend and the kitten by another. The kitten was accepted warmly by the 2 resident (adult male litter mate cats) in his new home. The older boy got along with the dogs in his new home. I think, like people, the personalities make a difference. L - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 1:53 PM Subject: Re: Balance of puddy cats I know mine miss the stolen ones. Shimmer is my eldest, he is 12 now, and not too much into the antics of the young ones. Missy is my kitty with congenital heart disease, and she self-limits her play. That leaves Tuffy no one really to play with when I am gone, and I think she is lonely and confused. On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 10:38 PM, laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sure mine do. After Stripes died, Squeaky kept urinating on the paper towel roll. I would replace and he'd urinate again. The vet said it was grief. It stopped after a couple weeks ~ dind't have this behavior before or after. They were best pals for 15 years. After Teddy died, I almost lost Coco. I know she was grieving for him. They were inseparable. It was heartbreaking. She has never been like that with another cat but is with me now. L - Original Message - From: Sally Davis To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 9:02 PM Subject: Balance of puddy cats Hi Folks, You never know if the other cats miss a deceased cat. I figure for the most part mine don't. I am now rethinking that. Being cats they are subtle about their emotions. Well Right now I have 5 cats on my bed, no room for me unless I move one. And Grey and White who shows her dislike for me more often than not has been lovey dovey towards me. Not sure that will last but there does seem to be a change in her behavior
Re: new cat
My positive is 9 years old! Welcome to the list. tonya Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I just joined this list after doing all the reading I possibly could find on feline leukemia. I recently acquired a Himalayan male cat around 5 to 6 years of age from a rather unscrupulous family. I was familiar with the cat because all summer he would come over to our house and hang around, mostly wanting attention and something to eat. Recently I discovered he was on a buy and sell site and immediately called the owners desparate to purchase him. Knowing who I am the price went from 150 to 300 within a couple minutes. Anyway, my husband and I had grown to love this little guy and just wanted him to have a good home. Yesterday we took him to the vet where he was groomed, shaved of all the horrible matting under his chest and legs, deflead and treated for a terrible case of earmites. We no sooner got home than the vet called to tell us he had tested positive for feline leukemia and wanted to know how much we had bonded with him and our options. After what seemed like hours of crying I decided we were going to keep him as long as he stayed healthy which he is now. This weekend he is going to be neutered, strongly advised by the vet. This will be strictly a housecat. He's adjusted very well and is adorable. I'm just curious. Does he have a chance at a longer life than I've been lead to believe he has. I'm hearing a couple of years and I just cannot accept this as fact. Lynne
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Hi Lynne. Thanks for taking in this baby and doing all that you have for him. I think that's great. Definitely keep him if he is asymptomatic right now. Any vet that recommends a cat that has tested positive for Felv ONE TIME and is asymptomatic is a quack (in my opinion). The veterinary profession has come a long way in extending the lives of these cats and any vet that does not recognize that is not up on his/her research. There can be false positives with these tests, so it is recommended he be retested again in 6 months. Please see my other recent post regarding Buzz b/c it has a lot of the same information about retesting. In addition, if you are going to keep him, you should look for a vet that is committed to proactively treating asymptomatic Felv cats. Do your research. Vet hop if you have to, but it is worth it to screen and to find the right vet who regularly treats Felv+ cats, is up on the research and will work with you to extend the cat's life. There are many immune boosting things you can do yourself now to help your cat. Also, a high quality diet is key. There is an online group that is devoted to the discussion of a high quality diet for cats (especially cats with immune disorders) and I recommend you join it. I am somewhat up on the research of the importance of diet, but not near as much as these people. I will get the website address and post it here in a few. Keep in mind that no one can tell you how long your cat will live. There are so many variables and because of that, it is ALWAYS worth trying- especially when they are asymptomatic. Please read thru the archives b/c many people have asked this very same question and the answers are always the same-- we don't know, but it's worth a try. Especially if you start proactively working to make him comfortable, reduce his stress (very key) and boost his immune system, there really is no limit to where he can go. One of my vets had an Felv cat live to be 12 and then she died of something completely unrelated- she never even became symptomatic and never even suffered from the Felv. So there are success stories out there like that. And remember, all cats will die. It sucks. They will almost always leave us before we are ready and no cat will ever live to be 30 yo! So from the minute we take them in and start to love them, their time with us is limited and all we can do in the meantime is shower them with love and affection and give them the best life possible. caroline From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: new catDate: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 18:54:13 -0500 Hi all. I just joined this list after doing all the reading I possibly could find on feline leukemia. I recently acquired a Himalayan male cat around 5 to 6 years of age from a rather unscrupulous family. I was familiar with the cat because all summer he would come over to our house and hang around, mostly wanting attention and something to eat. Recently I discovered he was on a buy and sell site and immediately called the owners desparate to purchase him. Knowing who I am the price went from 150 to 300 within a couple minutes. Anyway, my husband and I had grown to love this little guy and just wanted him to have a good home. Yesterday we took him to the vet where he was groomed, shaved of all the horrible matting under his chest and legs, deflead and treated for a terrible case of earmites. We no sooner got home than the vet called to tell us he had tested positive for feline leukemia and wanted to know how much we had bonded with him and our options. After what seemed like hours of crying I decided we were going to keep him as long as he stayed healthy which he is now. This weekend he is going to be neutered, strongly advised by the vet. This will be strictly a housecat. He's adjusted very well and is adorable. I'm just curious. Does he have a chance at a longer life than I've been lead to believe he has. I'm hearing a couple of years and I just cannot accept this as fact. Lynne _ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmailยฎ-get your fix. http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx
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Thank you Caroline. You make a very good point. I do intend to have him retested in a few months. I work in the medical field and am somewhat familiar with false positives and inadequate testing. I'm not gonna let one simple test decide that he has this disease. However, even if he does have it, it matters not one bit. He's here to stay. We absolutely love him to pieces, even the 19 year old is accepting him which I was worried about because Lennie has never had another cat in the house. We've only ever had 2 feline pets and both have reached 19 so the thought of BooBoo not making it to a ripe old age came as a bit of a blow to me. I know it shouldn't but we treat our cats like little gods. I'm going to keep on reading and educating myself about this and do the best I can with the situation. Lynne - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:13 PM Subject: RE: new cat Hi Lynne. Thanks for taking in this baby and doing all that you have for him. I think that's great. Definitely keep him if he is asymptomatic right now. Any vet that recommends a cat that has tested positive for Felv ONE TIME and is asymptomatic is a quack (in my opinion). The veterinary profession has come a long way in extending the lives of these cats and any vet that does not recognize that is not up on his/her research. There can be false positives with these tests, so it is recommended he be retested again in 6 months. Please see my other recent post regarding Buzz b/c it has a lot of the same information about retesting. In addition, if you are going to keep him, you should look for a vet that is committed to proactively treating asymptomatic Felv cats. Do your research. Vet hop if you have to, but it is worth it to screen and to find the right vet who regularly treats Felv+ cats, is up on the research and will work with you to extend the cat's life. There are many immune boosting things you can do yourself now to help your cat. Also, a high quality diet is key. There is an online group that is devoted to the discussion of a high quality diet for cats (especially cats with immune disorders) and I recommend you join it. I am somewhat up on the research of the importance of diet, but not near as much as these people. I will get the website address and post it here in a few. Keep in mind that no one can tell you how long your cat will live. There are so many variables and because of that, it is ALWAYS worth trying- especially when they are asymptomatic. Please read thru the archives b/c many people have asked this very same question and the answers are always the same-- we don't know, but it's worth a try. Especially if you start proactively working to make him comfortable, reduce his stress (very key) and boost his immune system, there really is no limit to where he can go. One of my vets had an Felv cat live to be 12 and then she died of something completely unrelated- she never even became symptomatic and never even suffered from the Felv. So there are success stories out there like that. And remember, all cats will die. It sucks. They will almost always leave us before we are ready and no cat will ever live to be 30 yo! So from the minute we take them in and start to love them, their time with us is limited and all we can do in the meantime is shower them with love and affection and give them the best life possible. caroline From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: new cat Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 18:54:13 -0500 Hi all. I just joined this list after doing all the reading I possibly could find on feline leukemia. I recently acquired a Himalayan male cat around 5 to 6 years of age from a rather unscrupulous family. I was familiar with the cat because all summer he would come over to our house and hang around, mostly wanting attention and something to eat. Recently I discovered he was on a buy and sell site and immediately called the owners desparate to purchase him. Knowing who I am the price went from 150 to 300 within a couple minutes. Anyway, my husband and I had grown to love this little guy and just wanted him to have a good home. Yesterday we took him to the vet where he was groomed, shaved of all the horrible matting under his chest and legs, deflead and treated for a terrible case of earmites. We no sooner got home than the vet called to tell us he had tested positive for feline leukemia and wanted to know how much we had bonded with him and our options. After what seemed like hours of crying I decided we were going to keep him as long as he stayed healthy which he is now. This weekend he is going to be neutered, strongly advised by the vet. This will be strictly a housecat. He's
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That's great! Your medical training will come in very handy then because this virus is such a virus in the true sense of the term. That's how my Monkee could present as absolutely healthy for 4 years (not even a UTI or upper respiratory infection!- nothing) and then suddenly be struck down with symptoms when the virus became active. We've only had one cat (no felv or anything) make it to 19 and we thought we were really something special! But 2, wow! Yes, I was the same way when I took Monkee in at the end of law school-- my mom still had the 3 kittens from a litter from a stray that were born when I was ten years old living at home with her at the time. They were of course all geriatric and driving my mom crazy because she thought it was time about every other day! So I was used to cats living to be 17, 18 and 19! The good thing is that after 2 of them finally passed relatively close together and we were left with admittedly, my favorite of the litter- Rambo- alone for the first time in his life at age 17, I rescued an unspayed 1 yo white cat and dumped her on my mom (b/c I had Monkee and couldn't take her in). At first, it was a little weird between them- the 1 yo and the old man- but eventually they came to love each other in their own odd little way and my mom and I swear up and down that we got two more quality years out of Rambo b/c we brought him this kitten! So there is something to be said for a younger cat infusing life into an older one, even if it's accomplished begrudgingly! caroline From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: new catDate: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:14:25 -0500 Thank you Caroline. You make a very good point. I do intend to have him retested in a few months. I work in the medical field and am somewhat familiar with false positives and inadequate testing. I'm not gonna let one simple test decide that he has this disease. However, even if he does have it, it matters not one bit. He's here to stay. We absolutely love him to pieces, even the 19 year old is accepting him which I was worried about because Lennie has never had another cat in the house. We've only ever had 2 feline pets and both have reached 19 so the thought of BooBoo not making it to a ripe old age came as a bit of a blow to me. I know it shouldn't but we treat our cats like little gods. I'm going to keep on reading and educating myself about this and do the best I can with the situation. Lynne - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:13 PM Subject: RE: new cat Hi Lynne. Thanks for taking in this baby and doing all that you have for him. I think that's great. Definitely keep him if he is asymptomatic right now. Any vet that recommends a cat that has tested positive for Felv ONE TIME and is asymptomatic is a quack (in my opinion). The veterinary profession has come a long way in extending the lives of these cats and any vet that does not recognize that is not up on his/her research. There can be false positives with these tests, so it is recommended he be retested again in 6 months. Please see my other recent post regarding Buzz b/c it has a lot of the same information about retesting. In addition, if you are going to keep him, you should look for a vet that is committed to proactively treating asymptomatic Felv cats. Do your research. Vet hop if you have to, but it is worth it to screen and to find the right vet who regularly treats Felv+ cats, is up on the research and will work with you to extend the cat's life. There are many immune boosting things you can do yourself now to help your cat. Also, a high quality diet is key. There is an online group that is devoted to the discussion of a high quality diet for cats (especially cats with immune disorders) and I recommend you join it. I am somewhat up on the research of the importance of diet, but not near as much as these people. I will get the website address and post it here in a few. Keep in mind that no one can tell you how long your cat will live. There are so many variables and because of that, it is ALWAYS worth trying- especially when they are asymptomatic. Please read thru the archives b/c many people have asked this very same question and the answers are always the same-- we don't know, but it's worth a try. Especially if you start proactively working to make him comfortable, reduce his stress (very key) and boost his immune system, there really is no limit to where he can go. One of my vets had an Felv cat live to be 12 and then she died of something completely unrelated- she never even became symptomatic and never even suffered from the Felv. So there are success stories out there like that. And remember, all cats will die. It sucks. They will almost always leave us before we are ready and no cat will ever live to be 30 yo! So from the minute we take them
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Your comment I know it shouldn't but we treat our cats like little gods. made me smile Lynne. I'm completely shameless about treating mine like little gods and goddesses. As long as they're not too mean to each other, and don't run the risk of harming themselves, I pretty well let em get away with murder. The way I see it, they don't ever have to go out in the world and get on with other people so it's ok to spoil em rotten! Thank you for giving BooBoo the wonderful forever home he deserves. These people are unscrupulous indeed--and worse. (I don't normally approve of capital punishment but when I hear stories like this) Wishing you and BooBoo many happy years together! Kerry _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:14 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: new cat Thank you Caroline. You make a very good point. I do intend to have him retested in a few months. I work in the medical field and am somewhat familiar with false positives and inadequate testing. I'm not gonna let one simple test decide that he has this disease. However, even if he does have it, it matters not one bit. He's here to stay. We absolutely love him to pieces, even the 19 year old is accepting him which I was worried about because Lennie has never had another cat in the house. We've only ever had 2 feline pets and both have reached 19 so the thought of BooBoo not making it to a ripe old age came as a bit of a blow to me. I know it shouldn't but we treat our cats like little gods. I'm going to keep on reading and educating myself about this and do the best I can with the situation. Lynne - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:13 PM Subject: RE: new cat Hi Lynne. Thanks for taking in this baby and doing all that you have for him. I think that's great. Definitely keep him if he is asymptomatic right now. Any vet that recommends a cat that has tested positive for Felv ONE TIME and is asymptomatic is a quack (in my opinion). The veterinary profession has come a long way in extending the lives of these cats and any vet that does not recognize that is not up on his/her research. There can be false positives with these tests, so it is recommended he be retested again in 6 months. Please see my other recent post regarding Buzz b/c it has a lot of the same information about retesting. In addition, if you are going to keep him, you should look for a vet that is committed to proactively treating asymptomatic Felv cats. Do your research. Vet hop if you have to, but it is worth it to screen and to find the right vet who regularly treats Felv+ cats, is up on the research and will work with you to extend the cat's life. There are many immune boosting things you can do yourself now to help your cat. Also, a high quality diet is key. There is an online group that is devoted to the discussion of a high quality diet for cats (especially cats with immune disorders) and I recommend you join it. I am somewhat up on the research of the importance of diet, but not near as much as these people. I will get the website address and post it here in a few. Keep in mind that no one can tell you how long your cat will live. There are so many variables and because of that, it is ALWAYS worth trying- especially when they are asymptomatic. Please read thru the archives b/c many people have asked this very same question and the answers are always the same-- we don't know, but it's worth a try. Especially if you start proactively working to make him comfortable, reduce his stress (very key) and boost his immune system, there really is no limit to where he can go. One of my vets had an Felv cat live to be 12 and then she died of something completely unrelated- she never even became symptomatic and never even suffered from the Felv. So there are success stories out there like that. And remember, all cats will die. It sucks. They will almost always leave us before we are ready and no cat will ever live to be 30 yo! So from the minute we take them in and start to love them, their time with us is limited and all we can do in the meantime is shower them with love and affection and give them the best life possible. caroline _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: new cat Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 18:54:13 -0500 Hi all. I just joined this list after doing all the reading I possibly could find on feline leukemia. I recently acquired a Himalayan male cat around 5 to 6 years of age from a rather unscrupulous family. I was familiar
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Hi all. I just joined this list after doing all the reading I possibly could find on feline leukemia. I recently acquired a Himalayan male cat around 5 to 6 years of age from a rather unscrupulous family. I was familiar with the cat because all summer he would come over to our house and hang around, mostly wanting attention and something to eat. Recently I discovered he was on a buy and sell site and immediately called the owners desparate to purchase him. Knowing who I am the price went from 150 to 300 within a couple minutes. Anyway, my husband and I had grown to love this little guy and just wanted him to have a good home. Yesterday we took him to the vet where he was groomed, shaved of all the horrible matting under his chest and legs, deflead and treated for a terrible case of earmites. We no sooner got home than the vet called to tell us he had tested positive for feline leukemia and wanted to know how much we had bonded with him and our options. After what seemed like hours of crying I decided we were going to keep him as long as he stayed healthy which he is now. This weekend he is going to be neutered, strongly advised by the vet. This will be strictly a housecat. He's adjusted very well and is adorable. I'm just curious. Does he have a chance at a longer life than I've been lead to believe he has. I'm hearing a couple of years and I just cannot accept this as fact. Lynne
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Lynne - I adopted a new kitty last July. Mandy also tested positive for leukemia. I loved her immediately so I never considered anything but keeping her. She is thriving. I feed her Wellness canned food (mixing in some lysine and Missing Link) and Nutro dry food. She is more than six years old and you would never know she is anything but perfectly healthy. She eats like a small horse, plays most of the day and loves me. Hopefully you will have the same experience. Pat - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 6:54 PM Subject: new cat Hi all. I just joined this list after doing all the reading I possibly could find on feline leukemia. I recently acquired a Himalayan male cat around 5 to 6 years of age from a rather unscrupulous family. I was familiar with the cat because all summer he would come over to our house and hang around, mostly wanting attention and something to eat. Recently I discovered he was on a buy and sell site and immediately called the owners desparate to purchase him. Knowing who I am the price went from 150 to 300 within a couple minutes. Anyway, my husband and I had grown to love this little guy and just wanted him to have a good home. Yesterday we took him to the vet where he was groomed, shaved of all the horrible matting under his chest and legs, deflead and treated for a terrible case of earmites. We no sooner got home than the vet called to tell us he had tested positive for feline leukemia and wanted to know how much we had bonded with him and our options. After what seemed like hours of crying I decided we were going to keep him as long as he stayed healthy which he is now. This weekend he is going to be neutered, strongly advised by the vet. This will be strictly a housecat. He's adjusted very well and is adorable. I'm just curious. Does he have a chance at a longer life than I've been lead to believe he has. I'm hearing a couple of years and I just cannot accept this as fact. Lynne
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Hi Lynne The rough numbers say 2/3's will be gone in 2 years... That leaves 1/3 that will make it past 2 years and they will commonly live to 8 years or longer... Tad Lynne wrote: Hi all. I just joined this list after doing all the reading I possibly could find on feline leukemia. I recently acquired a Himalayan male cat around 5 to 6 years of age from a rather unscrupulous family. I was familiar with the cat because all summer he would come over to our house and hang around, mostly wanting attention and something to eat. Recently I discovered he was on a buy and sell site and immediately called the owners desparate to purchase him. Knowing who I am the price went from 150 to 300 within a couple minutes. Anyway, my husband and I had grown to love this little guy and just wanted him to have a good home. Yesterday we took him to the vet where he was groomed, shaved of all the horrible matting under his chest and legs, deflead and treated for a terrible case of earmites. We no sooner got home than the vet called to tell us he had tested positive for feline leukemia and wanted to know how much we had bonded with him and our options. After what seemed like hours of crying I decided we were going to keep him as long as he stayed healthy which he is now. This weekend he is going to be neutered, strongly advised by the vet. This will be strictly a housecat. He's adjusted very well and is adorable. I'm just curious. Does he have a chance at a longer life than I've been lead to believe he has. I'm hearing a couple of years and I just cannot accept this as fact. Lynne
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Thanks for the encouraging news about your Mandy Pat. We're still trying to modify our boy's diet. I bought this food called Medi-Cal hypoallergenic diet from the vets because he was having diarrhea and terrible gas. He finally had a solid bowel movement yesterday and seems to like the food but his favorite seems to be tuna and salmon, the human stuff. He's really loveable and seemingly fine health wise so we're just gonna make sure he's well taken care of and given lots of love and attention. Lynne - Original Message - From: Pat Kachur To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:10 PM Subject: Re: new cat Lynne - I adopted a new kitty last July. Mandy also tested positive for leukemia. I loved her immediately so I never considered anything but keeping her. She is thriving. I feed her Wellness canned food (mixing in some lysine and Missing Link) and Nutro dry food. She is more than six years old and you would never know she is anything but perfectly healthy. She eats like a small horse, plays most of the day and loves me. Hopefully you will have the same experience. Pat
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Well that's happy news Tad Since our cat is between 4 to 6 and well, maybe he'll be around for a good length of time. Lynne - Original Message - From: Tad Burnett To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:41 PM Subject: Re: new cat Hi Lynne The rough numbers say 2/3's will be gone in 2 years... That leaves 1/3 that will make it past 2 years and they will commonly live to 8 years or longer... Tad Lynne wrote: Hi all. I just joined this list after doing all the reading I possibly could find on feline leukemia. I recently acquired a Himalayan male cat around 5 to 6 years of age from a rather unscrupulous family. I was familiar with the cat because all summer he would come over to our house and hang around, mostly wanting attention and something to eat. Recently I discovered he was on a buy and sell site and immediately called the owners desparate to purchase him. Knowing who I am the price went from 150 to 300 within a couple minutes. Anyway, my husband and I had grown to love this little guy and just wanted him to have a good home. Yesterday we took him to the vet where he was groomed, shaved of all the horrible matting under his chest and legs, deflead and treated for a terrible case of earmites. We no sooner got home than the vet called to tell us he had tested positive for feline leukemia and wanted to know how much we had bonded with him and our options. After what seemed like hours of crying I decided we were going to keep him as long as he stayed healthy which he is now. This weekend he is going to be neutered, strongly advised by the vet. This will be strictly a housecat. He's adjusted very well and is adorable. I'm just curious. Does he have a chance at a longer life than I've been lead to believe he has. I'm hearing a couple of years and I just cannot accept this as fact. Lynne
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Lynne Have one FELV+ who will be 10 years next month. She's a hefty 18 lbs and the only problem (other than overeating!) she's had is a few episodes of very low white blood count. Vet got the count up pretty quickly with immuno-regulin. My other FELV+, Romeo, is probably a year or so younger-he's a stray I fed outside for a couple of years before bringing him in. He's only had some gum problems which though fairly easy to treat, for him is a bit tough as its difficult to pill him. I feed them Wellness wet food with a very little bit of Iams dry food. Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 914-720-6888 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART) http://www.findkpets.org www.findkpets.org Join Us Help Reunite Katrina-displaced Families with their Animals From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 6:54 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: new cat Hi all. I just joined this list after doing all the reading I possibly could find on feline leukemia. I recently acquired a Himalayan male cat around 5 to 6 years of age from a rather unscrupulous family. I was familiar with the cat because all summer he would come over to our house and hang around, mostly wanting attention and something to eat. Recently I discovered he was on a buy and sell site and immediately called the owners desparate to purchase him. Knowing who I am the price went from 150 to 300 within a couple minutes. Anyway, my husband and I had grown to love this little guy and just wanted him to have a good home. Yesterday we took him to the vet where he was groomed, shaved of all the horrible matting under his chest and legs, deflead and treated for a terrible case of earmites. We no sooner got home than the vet called to tell us he had tested positive for feline leukemia and wanted to know how much we had bonded with him and our options. After what seemed like hours of crying I decided we were going to keep him as long as he stayed healthy which he is now. This weekend he is going to be neutered, strongly advised by the vet. This will be strictly a housecat. He's adjusted very well and is adorable. I'm just curious. Does he have a chance at a longer life than I've been lead to believe he has. I'm hearing a couple of years and I just cannot accept this as fact. Lynne
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Dixie came into my life as a throw-away who showed up at my mother's. I liked her and took her to my vet several months later to have her spayed, intending to take her to my farm as a barn cat. He tested her (she was still nameless) and she was FELV+. He explained the options and was very relieved when I took all of them off the table. Dixie stayed in a garage for a while then moved up to being a house trailer cat and now lives on the farm as the Junior Partner in the firm of Person and Cat with her own bedroom (as well as run of one floor of the house---I'm building and the basement is not safe yet), a 10 x 10 x 6 foot kennel with a topper for good weather, etc...no, she is not spoiled. She spoils me with all the love and joy she has given me. She came into my life about 3 years ago and is extremely healthy. She has been retested a couple of times then I got tired of itit simply doesn't matter what the results are. She eats a very good diet with no grains and extra veggies providing lots of Vitamin A and C, raw as well as processed meats, and various supplements as feels right at the time. Colostrum, various homeopathic supplements, Interfreon, Petz Life Brush Away.I, too, came to this list with questions. Dixie and I realize that life is not a certain thing and I am accepting the fact that no one knows when or how they are living. Concentrating on when a loved one may leave ---it doesn't' matter how many legs, how healthy or sickly they appear, or what the doctors/vets say. We are all dying and start dying the day we are born. Dwelling on that or the length of life only destroys the wonderful time you can have together. Dixie is a totally perfect cat. She travels wonderfully, adjusts to everything including the constant construction at her home, and is a wonderful hunter and friend. She came into my life a little over 3 years ago and, this June, is the anniversary of her person owning life. She may or may not get sick.we'll deal with that when and if it happens. After all, we all decline in health. She is very healthy and happy now and that is what matters. Yes. Your friend can live much longer or die suddenly from something totally unrelated to FeLV+. You can do the same. Enjoy the wonderful time you have together. Everyday I celebrate Dixie's life. Oh, yes...had she not tested positive she would have been a barn/ porch cat. Now she owns the house. And my heart. On Feb 5, 2008, at 5:54 PM, Lynne wrote Hi all. I just joined this list after doing all the reading I possibly could find on feline leukemia. I recently acquired a Himalayan male cat around 5 to 6 years of age from a rather unscrupulous family. I was familiar with the cat because all summer he would come over to our house and hang around, mostly wanting attention and something to eat. Recently I discovered he was on a buy and sell site and immediately called the owners desperate to purchase him. Knowing who I am the price went from 150 to 300 within a couple minutes. Anyway, my husband and I had grown to love this little guy and just wanted him to have a good home. Yesterday we took him to the vet where he was groomed, shaved of all the horrible matting under his chest and legs, deflead and treated for a terrible case of earmites. We no sooner got home than the vet called to tell us he had tested positive for feline leukemia and wanted to know how much we had bonded with him and our options. After what seemed like hours of crying I decided we were going to keep him as long as he stayed healthy which he is now. This weekend he is going to be neutered, strongly advised by the vet. This will be strictly a housecat. He's adjusted very well and is adorable. I'm just curious. Does he have a chance at a longer life than I've been lead to believe he has. I'm hearing a couple of years and I just cannot accept this as fact. Lynne
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Hi Lynne I've found that feeding the best quality food possible, finding the right supplements to boost immunity and a stress free and loving environment does wonders. You might want to get him on supplements to support his immune system before and after his surgery (neutering). There is a lot of information in the archives as well. We've all experienced the horrible shock and grief that a FeLV diagnosis brings, but have learned that these kitties are always very special and have taught many of us lessons in gratitude and living in the moment. There are many knowledgeable people on the list to help you. Welcome! Jane On Feb 5, 2008, at 7:47 PM, Lynne wrote: Well that's happy news Tad Since our cat is between 4 to 6 and well, maybe he'll be around for a good length of time. Lynne - Original Message - From: Tad Burnett To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:41 PM Subject: Re: new cat Hi Lynne The rough numbers say 2/3's will be gone in 2 years... That leaves 1/3 that will make it past 2 years and they will commonly live to 8 years or longer... Tad Lynne wrote: Hi all. I just joined this list after doing all the reading I possibly could find on feline leukemia. I recently acquired a Himalayan male cat around 5 to 6 years of age from a rather unscrupulous family. I was familiar with the cat because all summer he would come over to our house and hang around, mostly wanting attention and something to eat. Recently I discovered he was on a buy and sell site and immediately called the owners desparate to purchase him. Knowing who I am the price went from 150 to 300 within a couple minutes. Anyway, my husband and I had grown to love this little guy and just wanted him to have a good home. Yesterday we took him to the vet where he was groomed, shaved of all the horrible matting under his chest and legs, deflead and treated for a terrible case of earmites. We no sooner got home than the vet called to tell us he had tested positive for feline leukemia and wanted to know how much we had bonded with him and our options. After what seemed like hours of crying I decided we were going to keep him as long as he stayed healthy which he is now. This weekend he is going to be neutered, strongly advised by the vet. This will be strictly a housecat. He's adjusted very well and is adorable. I'm just curious. Does he have a chance at a longer life than I've been lead to believe he has. I'm hearing a couple of years and I just cannot accept this as fact. Lynne
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Thank you Jane. BooBoo (we didn't name him) is on a good diet now and seemingly in very good health and I think he feels really well having had a conditioning bath and grooming. I think the little guy is clean for the first time in his life. I talked to the vet about supplements and he didn't feel they were necessary at this time but I want him to have his blood checked periodically to make sure everything is ok. As for neutering, our vet wants to do it ASAP. I do trust this guy. We have a Maine Coon who is 19 years old and on thyroid medication now and doing really well so I believe this vet who has taken care of him. He tells me that neutered males have less chance of developing prostate cancer and his urine won't smell as strong as it does now. BooBoo is a very clean cat but his pee does smell horribly strong. The vet said neutering should help this, something I never knew, probably because the only 2 cats we've ever owned were neutered quite young. Lynne - Original Message - From: Jane Lyons To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:18 PM Subject: Re: new cat Hi Lynne I've found that feeding the best quality food possible, finding the right supplements to boost immunity and a stress free and loving environment does wonders. You might want to get him on supplements to support his immune system before and after his surgery (neutering). There is a lot of information in the archives as well. We've all experienced the horrible shock and grief that a FeLV diagnosis brings, but have learned that these kitties are always very special and have taught many of us lessons in gratitude and living in the moment. There are many knowledgeable people on the list to help you. Welcome! Jane On Feb 5, 2008, at 7:47 PM, Lynne wrote: Well that's happy news Tad Since our cat is between 4 to 6 and well, maybe he'll be around for a good length of time. Lynne - Original Message - From: Tad Burnett To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:41 PM Subject: Re: new cat Hi Lynne The rough numbers say 2/3's will be gone in 2 years... That leaves 1/3 that will make it past 2 years and they will commonly live to 8 years or longer... Tad Lynne wrote: Hi all. I just joined this list after doing all the reading I possibly could find on feline leukemia. I recently acquired a Himalayan male cat around 5 to 6 years of age from a rather unscrupulous family. I was familiar with the cat because all summer he would come over to our house and hang around, mostly wanting attention and something to eat. Recently I discovered he was on a buy and sell site and immediately called the owners desparate to purchase him. Knowing who I am the price went from 150 to 300 within a couple minutes. Anyway, my husband and I had grown to love this little guy and just wanted him to have a good home. Yesterday we took him to the vet where he was groomed, shaved of all the horrible matting under his chest and legs, deflead and treated for a terrible case of earmites. We no sooner got home than the vet called to tell us he had tested positive for feline leukemia and wanted to know how much we had bonded with him and our options. After what seemed like hours of crying I decided we were going to keep him as long as he stayed healthy which he is now. This weekend he is going to be neutered, strongly advised by the vet. This will be strictly a housecat. He's adjusted very well and is adorable. I'm just curious. Does he have a chance at a longer life than I've been lead to believe he has. I'm hearing a couple of years and I just cannot accept this as fact. Lynne
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Hi Lynn, my Squeaky and Stripes tested positive. Squeak lived a healthy life until age 22 years. Stripes was sick on and off and lived to age 16 years. This was before vets (or guardians) knew much and they VACCINATED them for this year after year. Squeaky always got sick for 3 days after being vaccinated. Anyway, have hope and give him lots of love and no stress. The neutering can stress him so make sure he's in tip top shape before you do that. Check out some of the maintenance suggestions for feline leuk positive kitties such as using interferon. Good luck and THANK-YOU for rescuing this kitty from his previous situation. Wonder if you could bring any sort of neglect charge agst the other family. That said, we don't generally press charges here as it means we have to relinquish the animal. Laurie - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:54 PM Subject: new cat Hi all. I just joined this list after doing all the reading I possibly could find on feline leukemia. I recently acquired a Himalayan male cat around 5 to 6 years of age from a rather unscrupulous family. I was familiar with the cat because all summer he would come over to our house and hang around, mostly wanting attention and something to eat. Recently I discovered he was on a buy and sell site and immediately called the owners desparate to purchase him. Knowing who I am the price went from 150 to 300 within a couple minutes. Anyway, my husband and I had grown to love this little guy and just wanted him to have a good home. Yesterday we took him to the vet where he was groomed, shaved of all the horrible matting under his chest and legs, deflead and treated for a terrible case of earmites. We no sooner got home than the vet called to tell us he had tested positive for feline leukemia and wanted to know how much we had bonded with him and our options. After what seemed like hours of crying I decided we were going to keep him as long as he stayed healthy which he is now. This weekend he is going to be neutered, strongly advised by the vet. This will be strictly a housecat. He's adjusted very well and is adorable. I'm just curious. Does he have a chance at a longer life than I've been lead to believe he has. I'm hearing a couple of years and I just cannot accept this as fact. Lynne
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btw we now have Isabella, a stray who kept coming for food and tested positive for feline leukemia. She had a rough time of it last summer but is doing great. Her weight has almost doubled! She has been adopted by my friend Lisa. She takes prednisone and tramadal (pain med) and Lisa gives her interferon 7 days on and 7 days off. Lis feeds Innova EVO dry. Bella loves it. She gets some canned food, too, but loves her EVO Laurie (ps the only thing I don't love about the name BooBoo is that those other people named him. I love the name!) - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:37 PM Subject: Re: new cat Thank you Jane. BooBoo (we didn't name him) is on a good diet now and seemingly in very good health and I think he feels really well having had a conditioning bath and grooming. I think the little guy is clean for the first time in his life. I talked to the vet about supplements and he didn't feel they were necessary at this time but I want him to have his blood checked periodically to make sure everything is ok. As for neutering, our vet wants to do it ASAP. I do trust this guy. We have a Maine Coon who is 19 years old and on thyroid medication now and doing really well so I believe this vet who has taken care of him. He tells me that neutered males have less chance of developing prostate cancer and his urine won't smell as strong as it does now. BooBoo is a very clean cat but his pee does smell horribly strong. The vet said neutering should help this, something I never knew, probably because the only 2 cats we've ever owned were neutered quite young. Lynne - Original Message - From: Jane Lyons To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:18 PM Subject: Re: new cat Hi Lynne I've found that feeding the best quality food possible, finding the right supplements to boost immunity and a stress free and loving environment does wonders. You might want to get him on supplements to support his immune system before and after his surgery (neutering). There is a lot of information in the archives as well. We've all experienced the horrible shock and grief that a FeLV diagnosis brings, but have learned that these kitties are always very special and have taught many of us lessons in gratitude and living in the moment. There are many knowledgeable people on the list to help you. Welcome! Jane On Feb 5, 2008, at 7:47 PM, Lynne wrote: Well that's happy news Tad Since our cat is between 4 to 6 and well, maybe he'll be around for a good length of time. Lynne - Original Message - From: Tad Burnett To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:41 PM Subject: Re: new cat Hi Lynne The rough numbers say 2/3's will be gone in 2 years... That leaves 1/3 that will make it past 2 years and they will commonly live to 8 years or longer... Tad Lynne wrote: Hi all. I just joined this list after doing all the reading I possibly could find on feline leukemia. I recently acquired a Himalayan male cat around 5 to 6 years of age from a rather unscrupulous family. I was familiar with the cat because all summer he would come over to our house and hang around, mostly wanting attention and something to eat. Recently I discovered he was on a buy and sell site and immediately called the owners desparate to purchase him. Knowing who I am the price went from 150 to 300 within a couple minutes. Anyway, my husband and I had grown to love this little guy and just wanted him to have a good home. Yesterday we took him to the vet where he was groomed, shaved of all the horrible matting under his chest and legs, deflead and treated for a terrible case of earmites. We no sooner got home than the vet called to tell us he had tested positive for feline leukemia and wanted to know how much we had bonded with him and our options. After what seemed like hours of crying I decided we were going to keep him as long as he stayed healthy which he is now. This weekend he is going to be neutered, strongly advised by the vet. This will be strictly a housecat. He's adjusted very well and is adorable. I'm just curious. Does he have a chance at a longer life than I've been lead to believe he has. I'm hearing a couple of years and I just cannot accept this as fact. Lynne
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Thanks Laurie for this encouragement. I've become angry at the people we got the cat from only because they have still have an add on a site selling two other cats, the one is a son of my cat and the other is a female. These people don't believe in vets or neutering or spaying. They have sent me a couple nasty emails saying they didn't believe my vet's diagnosis and that the cat had always been healthy and happy and had only seen a vet once when he was ill and almost died as a kitten. They don't have a clue as to what this disease is and told me it was not transmittable and I was foolish to believe it could be fatal. Also told me there was something wrong with me not to believe in miracles. I'm dealing with some weird individuals here. Anyhow, I own him and we love him to pieces and they will never see him again. He's happy as can be here, clean, adorable and healthy. I am kind of worried about the neutering but our vet says he's very much up to it and we'll have a better cat for it, so I need to trust him. Besides, BooBoo likes the people there and travelling in the van. Lynne - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:25 PM Subject: Re: new cat Hi Lynn, my Squeaky and Stripes tested positive. Squeak lived a healthy life until age 22 years. Stripes was sick on and off and lived to age 16 years. This was before vets (or guardians) knew much and they VACCINATED them for this year after year. Squeaky always got sick for 3 days after being vaccinated. Anyway, have hope and give him lots of love and no stress. The neutering can stress him so make sure he's in tip top shape before you do that. Check out some of the maintenance suggestions for feline leuk positive kitties such as using interferon. Good luck and THANK-YOU for rescuing this kitty from his previous situation. Wonder if you could bring any sort of neglect charge agst the other family. That said, we don't generally press charges here as it means we have to relinquish the animal. Laurie - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:54 PM Subject: new cat Hi all. I just joined this list after doing all the reading I possibly could find on feline leukemia. I recently acquired a Himalayan male cat around 5 to 6 years of age from a rather unscrupulous family. I was familiar with the cat because all summer he would come over to our house and hang around, mostly wanting attention and something to eat. Recently I discovered he was on a buy and sell site and immediately called the owners desparate to purchase him. Knowing who I am the price went from 150 to 300 within a couple minutes. Anyway, my husband and I had grown to love this little guy and just wanted him to have a good home. Yesterday we took him to the vet where he was groomed, shaved of all the horrible matting under his chest and legs, deflead and treated for a terrible case of earmites. We no sooner got home than the vet called to tell us he had tested positive for feline leukemia and wanted to know how much we had bonded with him and our options. After what seemed like hours of crying I decided we were going to keep him as long as he stayed healthy which he is now. This weekend he is going to be neutered, strongly advised by the vet. This will be strictly a housecat. He's adjusted very well and is adorable. I'm just curious. Does he have a chance at a longer life than I've been lead to believe he has. I'm hearing a couple of years and I just cannot accept this as fact. Lynne
Re: new cat
Dear Lynne I have to say that I absorbed much of the encouragement that was meant for you in those emails for myself! I have recently also joined this list looking for hope against FeLV and everytime someone else joins I am further encouraged. Diet does seem to make a difference in all the reading that I have done it mentions the highest possible quality high protein diet. Well, I'm a firm believer in the Prey Model Diet (otherwise known as Raw feeding or BARF) as it fully suits those qualifications. Since BooBoo is already more interested in human food - tuna/salmon, now might be a good time to try to transition him to Raw. It's a process but some cats take to it better than others. Someone else mentioned Raw feeding - there are many really wonderful websites like: www.rawfedcats.org that have all the information needed to get started in Raw Feeding. Our Athena is entirely raw fed , whole prey (we use Rodent Pro.com) basically initially by her own doing. Time will tell (as much as it really can with this situation) as far as how beneficial the raw feeding is for them but I really think that overall (even if she weren't sick) there would never be any better food plan. Anyway - off my soap box but think about it. Good luck and warm wishes:) Beth Gouldin RIP Orion (to FELV) Good Luck Athena (FELV +)
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Wow Susan-you are so knowledgeable about the breeds. To me, it's the black/white cat, the calico, the tabby. It's kind of like my mom and cars: white car, red car, black truck, etc. Likewise, I'm not very aware when it comes to the technical terms or the lingo for cat breeds. I'm interested though, so I think I'll look up all the words in here that I have no visuals for! By the way-I love the name Naughty Lola! I know exactly what she's like without meeting her. Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Dubose Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 8:15 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: new Cat Fancy Ah, on the cover is a SelkirkRex, described as a British Shorthair meets Rex sometimes meets Persian Finally, I have uncovered what look the Frankenbreeder from last year was going for in my little Pugsley. I kept saying to everyone (anyone that would listen!), he's so funny looking, he's got curly fur but the face of a British Shorthair! Not like the classic Rex! So, apparently that IS a breed, but this loser was just playin' w /genetics... They come in either long or short furrage... This is the same house that my Naughty Lola Ursula (both felv+) came from, Lola being a doll faced Persian Ursula being a British Shorthair Sealpoint Looks like my little Pugsley on the cover only w/long fur, flamepoint all! He was a tough little cookie, medically.. He was @ the vet clinic for 6 months! Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.petgirlspetsitting.com http://www.petgirlspetsitting.com/ www.tx.siameserescue.org http://www.tx.siameserescue.org/ www.shadowcats.net http://www.shadowcats.net/ A kitten is more amusing than half the people one is obligated to be with. Lady Sidney Morgan _ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48251/*http:/smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting/ ?p=PASSPORTPLUS the tools to get online.
new Cat Fancy
Ah, on the cover is a SelkirkRex, described as a British Shorthair meets Rex sometimes meets Persian Finally, I have uncovered what look the Frankenbreeder from last year was going for in my little Pugsley. I kept saying to everyone (anyone that would listen!), he's so funny looking, he's got curly fur but the face of a British Shorthair! Not like the classic Rex! So, apparently that IS a breed, but this loser was just playin' w /genetics... They come in either long or short furrage... This is the same house that my Naughty Lola Ursula (both felv+) came from, Lola being a doll faced Persian Ursula being a British Shorthair Sealpoint Looks like my little Pugsley on the cover only w/long fur, flamepoint all! He was a tough little cookie, medically.. He was @ the vet clinic for 6 months! Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.petgirlspetsitting.com www.tx.siameserescue.org www.shadowcats.net A kitten is more amusing than half the people one is obligated to be with. Lady Sidney Morgan Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.
New cat on the block
Hi Ashley! I'm glad you found this site. Your vet is wrong - though it's true that there is no cure for FeLV, it's certainly not a waste of money to keep an otherwise healthy, happy kitty alive and well. So I'm glad you didn't take his recommendation to put Mr. Kitten to sleep. True, it gets expensive, and you probably should invest in high-quality food (many people on this list recommend Innova) and the experts here will tell you what supplements to give Mr. Kitten to keep his immune system strong. But at four, your cat has reached and passed a major milestone (our little guy died at 11 months and the latest cat we rescued from the SPCA is thankfully, not FeLV+). You won't find a better educated, more sympathetic and caring group of people than on this list. Best wishes for the continued good health of Mr. Kitten! Peggy
Re: New cat on the block
Welcome to the list! Mr. Kitten sounds like he has a good mom. I think many vets just refuse to learn new things. Just out of curiosity, has the vet that told you to euthanise Mr. Kitten ever given him any vaccines? If so, can you tell me where he gave them (neck, scruff, side, leg)? I ask because if he's still giving vaccines in the scruff of the neck, he's obviously just someone who refuses to embrace new technology and studies and is just a bad vet for not continuing to work on his education. The most important thing is to feed the very best quality food you can afford, like Wellness, Innova, Chicken Soup, or other super-premium brands. Cat food should never contain corn or corn ingredients. After that, then you start adding general immune boosting supplements (same as you would take to boost YOUR immune system) like Vitamin C, Lysine, B Complex Vitamins, etc. Then you consider adding a FELV specific treatment, like Interferon, Acemannan, or Immunoregulin. Lots of it is just plain good nutrition, and I don't think any vet could argue with adding extra immune boosting vitamins and minerals to an animal's diet! Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost SpayNeuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
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Hi Ashley, I'm sorry to hear that Mr. Kitten is FeLV+, but happy you have found us. The two most important things you can do to keep Mr. Kitten healthy is to keep him stress-free and to get him on a great diet, which includes immune-boosting supplements. Many of us feed our kitties Innova Evo, which has no grains as cats cannot process grains, but there are other good cat foods out there. Pretty much anything you can buy at Wal-Mart and most of what you can buy at Petco or Petsmart are not good foods. The good foods are usually found at pet boutiques and online. Supplements that people usually use are L-lysine (without the propynol glycol additive) and Vitamin C, but there are others. Again, welcome to the group Ashley, and I hope that Mr. Kitten has many long years ahead of him! :) Wendy Dallas, Tx __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Mr. Kitten has not received any vaccines since being diagnosed. He did receive a Prednisone shot that was administered in his neck, but I don't know if that is the normal spot for that injection or not. I live in a smaller town so it's hard to find a wide range of vets, expecially ones that are interested in handling Felv+ cats, but I'm working on it. In a message dated 12/19/2006 12:09:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Welcome to the list! Mr. Kitten sounds like he has a good mom. I think many vets just refuse to learn new things. Just out of curiosity, has the vet that told you to euthanise Mr. Kitten ever given him any vaccines? If so, can you tell me where he gave them (neck, scruff, side, leg)? I ask because if he's still giving vaccines in the scruff of the neck, he's obviously just someone who refuses to embrace new technology and studies and is just a bad vet for not continuing to work on his education. The most important thing is to feed the very best quality food you can afford, like Wellness, Innova, Chicken Soup, or other super-premium brands. Cat food should never contain corn or corn ingredients. After that, then you start adding general immune boosting supplements (same as you would take to boost YOUR immune system) like Vitamin C, Lysine, B Complex Vitamins, etc. Then you consider adding a FELV specific treatment, like Interferon, Acemannan, or Immunoregulin. Lots of it is just plain good nutrition, and I don't think any vet could argue with adding extra immune boosting vitamins and minerals to an animal's diet! Phaewryn
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Nothing should ever be given in the neck on cats. They are prone to injection site sarcoma, in other words, a big cancerous tumor can grow in the location of any injections. Happens in every 1 in 1000 to 1 in 1 cats (studies vary on the frequency). Since you can't amputate the neck, giving it in that location equals instant death sentence for any cat that gets a sarcoma there (whereas if it's given in the lower leg, as it should be, you can amputate the leg and save the cat). But, that proves my suspicions, yes, your vet is VERY outdated and does NOT keep up with current protocols. I suggest a different vet. Ask them Now if you were going to give my cat a vaccine, where would you administer that, in the scruff? If they says yes, forget that vet, try again. Remember though, just because you may find one that is current on vaccination protocol, doesn't mean they will be current on FELV treatment, it's just SOMEWHERE to start. Here's the webpage on current vaccine protocols: http://www.avma.org/vafstf/sitercmnd.asp Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost SpayNeuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
New cat on the block
So, I've just recently added to this list and have been reading just about everything I get in order to try and get the hang of things. My name is Ashley and I have a Felv+ cat named Mr. Kitten. I got him from our local SPCA in Jan 2004 and he will be turning four this upcoming January. Shortly after bringing him home Mr. Kitten had a runny nose that just wouldn't go away, so off to the first vet. This vet did no testing at all, just sent me away with antibiotics. Second vet ran all sorts of tests and this is when I learned that he was Felv+ The vet's first response was euthanasia, but since Mr. Kitten was an extremely happy (and healthy, for the most part) cat, I decided to take him back home. Upon hearing this decision the vet told me how the research on the internet is wrong and there is no cure and all the supposed treatments are just a waste of money. So I was a little put off from ever trying anything. I've recently been doing a lot more research and getting more involved and I am starting to see that there are different alternatives out there. As of right now I haven't been giving Mr. Kitten anything other than his regular food and water, but like I said, I'm new to the homeopathic world. I just watned to let you guys out there know that hearing such stories are so inspiring and it's really nice to know there are things that actually work and help. Just recently Mr. Kitten is becoming a little more picky about his food, one day he scarfs down everything in front of him and other days he has no desire for anything. It makes me a little nervous because I know that loss of appetite could lead to many other downfalls, but hopefully he is just being a brat. But anyway, I just wanted to introduce myself and Mr. Kitten and let you guys know how grateful I am for people like you!
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I also started using flower essence (5 different kinds) to reduce stress and helps get everyone get along better --- if you would like, I can get the names for you (I just don't remember in my head right now..) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: o/t established cat and new cat When they are introduced please consider using lots of Feliway in the rooms, not on the cats, but on you and in the rooms, Super Catnip in the area and Rescue Remedy on the cats and in their water. Neither cat needs to be stressed any more than absolutely necessary. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Diane Rosenfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:44 PM Subject: RE: o/t established cat and new cat My first instinct was to say, first own cat, then after a while, Kitty. BUT. Then I thought of my own move, when Gail and I combined our respective households -- me with Missy, Luc, and at that time Phoebe, and her with Tribble and at that time Kitty. We hadn't introduced them all to each other, even though we lived a hallway away in our apartment building. It just didn't seem like a good idea. When we moved, we weren't too worried about the females, who were all sort of loners and wouldn't have territorial issues. We were worried about our two big Alphas, especially because Tribble especially is so confrontational. But when we let them out of the carriers and they saw each other, it was literally like: (nose touch) Dude! (ass sniff) Dude! No territorial stuff at all. (It probably helped, in the long run, that this house has 11 rooms and they wouldn't have to see each other at all if they didn't want to, but they didn't know that then.) So I'm wondering if, since there will be big changes for both cats anyway, it would be fine to introduce them to the new place at the same time, and maybe there wouldn't be territory wars. I don't know. Might be completely dependent on the cats' personalities, whether the original cat NEEDS to be Alpha? Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 3:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: o/t established cat and new cat Hi guys I'm sorry I've not been on the list recently. (Trying to prepare to go to UK again while working on an adopter for one of my fosters.) As always, all sick kitties are in my thoughts, and my heart goes out to those that have lost beloved furbabies. I wonder if I could ask you knowledgeable folks a Q? The potential adopter of my foster, Kitty, took her own cat to her parents place while she moved house. She says she now wants to establish her cat in her new home before she takes Kitty. Surely it wd be better if she used this ideal opportunity to move them together into the new place? Any opinions much appreciated before I get back to her on this.I believe she plans to remove her cat tomorrow from her parents. Thanks as always Kerry IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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thanks Hideyo---if she's receptive, I'll ask you for the names. Heck, I should probably get them for my own brood. We're having a few issues right now. Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: o/t established cat and new cat I also started using flower essence (5 different kinds) to reduce stress and helps get everyone get along better --- if you would like, I can get the names for you (I just don't remember in my head right now..) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: o/t established cat and new cat When they are introduced please consider using lots of Feliway in the rooms, not on the cats, but on you and in the rooms, Super Catnip in the area and Rescue Remedy on the cats and in their water. Neither cat needs to be stressed any more than absolutely necessary. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Diane Rosenfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:44 PM Subject: RE: o/t established cat and new cat My first instinct was to say, first own cat, then after a while, Kitty. BUT. Then I thought of my own move, when Gail and I combined our respective households -- me with Missy, Luc, and at that time Phoebe, and her with Tribble and at that time Kitty. We hadn't introduced them all to each other, even though we lived a hallway away in our apartment building. It just didn't seem like a good idea. When we moved, we weren't too worried about the females, who were all sort of loners and wouldn't have territorial issues. We were worried about our two big Alphas, especially because Tribble especially is so confrontational. But when we let them out of the carriers and they saw each other, it was literally like: (nose touch) Dude! (ass sniff) Dude! No territorial stuff at all. (It probably helped, in the long run, that this house has 11 rooms and they wouldn't have to see each other at all if they didn't want to, but they didn't know that then.) So I'm wondering if, since there will be big changes for both cats anyway, it would be fine to introduce them to the new place at the same time, and maybe there wouldn't be territory wars. I don't know. Might be completely dependent on the cats' personalities, whether the original cat NEEDS to be Alpha? Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 3:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: o/t established cat and new cat Hi guys I'm sorry I've not been on the list recently. (Trying to prepare to go to UK again while working on an adopter for one of my fosters.) As always, all sick kitties are in my thoughts, and my heart goes out to those that have lost beloved furbabies. I wonder if I could ask you knowledgeable folks a Q? The potential adopter of my foster, Kitty, took her own cat to her parents place while she moved house. She says she now wants to establish her cat in her new home before she takes Kitty. Surely it wd be better if she used this ideal opportunity to move them together into the new place? Any opinions much appreciated before I get back to her on this.I believe she plans to remove her cat tomorrow from her parents. Thanks as always Kerry IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should
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The flower essence is called Rescue Remedy - it's available from Drs. Foster _, online and supposedly at health food stores. It's liquid to put in water or on food or a spray (directly into the mouth). [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/13/06 12:01:52 PM I also started using flower essence (5 different kinds) to reduce stress and helps get everyone get along better --- if you would like, I can get the names for you (I just don't remember in my head right now..) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: o/t established cat and new cat When they are introduced please consider using lots of Feliway in the rooms, not on the cats, but on you and in the rooms, Super Catnip in the area and Rescue Remedy on the cats and in their water. Neither cat needs to be stressed any more than absolutely necessary. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Diane Rosenfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:44 PM Subject: RE: o/t established cat and new cat My first instinct was to say, first own cat, then after a while, Kitty. BUT. Then I thought of my own move, when Gail and I combined our respective households -- me with Missy, Luc, and at that time Phoebe, and her with Tribble and at that time Kitty. We hadn't introduced them all to each other, even though we lived a hallway away in our apartment building. It just didn't seem like a good idea. When we moved, we weren't too worried about the females, who were all sort of loners and wouldn't have territorial issues. We were worried about our two big Alphas, especially because Tribble especially is so confrontational. But when we let them out of the carriers and they saw each other, it was literally like: (nose touch) Dude! (ass sniff) Dude! No territorial stuff at all. (It probably helped, in the long run, that this house has 11 rooms and they wouldn't have to see each other at all if they didn't want to, but they didn't know that then.) So I'm wondering if, since there will be big changes for both cats anyway, it would be fine to introduce them to the new place at the same time, and maybe there wouldn't be territory wars. I don't know. Might be completely dependent on the cats' personalities, whether the original cat NEEDS to be Alpha? Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 3:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: o/t established cat and new cat Hi guys I'm sorry I've not been on the list recently. (Trying to prepare to go to UK again while working on an adopter for one of my fosters.) As always, all sick kitties are in my thoughts, and my heart goes out to those that have lost beloved furbabies. I wonder if I could ask you knowledgeable folks a Q? The potential adopter of my foster, Kitty, took her own cat to her parents place while she moved house. She says she now wants to establish her cat in her new home before she takes Kitty. Surely it wd be better if she used this ideal opportunity to move them together into the new place? Any opinions much appreciated before I get back to her on this.I believe she plans to remove her cat tomorrow from her parents. Thanks as always Kerry IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail
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Title: Message Thanks Diane. Wonderful! -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Diane RosenfeldtSent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:45 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: o/t established cat and new cat My first instinct was to say, first own cat, then after a while, Kitty. BUT. Then I thought of my own move, when Gail and I combined our respective households -- me with Missy, Luc, and at that time Phoebe, and her with Tribble and at that time Kitty. We hadn't introduced them all to each other, even though we lived a hallway away in our apartment building. It just didn't seem like a good idea. When we moved, we weren't too worried about the females, who were all sort of loners and wouldn't have territorial issues. We were worried about our two big Alphas, especially because Tribble especially is so confrontational. But when we let them out of the carriers and they saw each other, it was literally like: (nose touch) "Dude!" (ass sniff) "Dude!" No territorial stuff at all. (It probably helped, in the long run, that this house has 11 rooms and they wouldn't have to see each other at all if they didn't want to, but they didn't know that then.) So I'm wondering if, since there will be big changes for both cats anyway, it would be fine to introduce them to the new place at the same time, and maybe there wouldn't be territory wars. I don't know. Might be completely dependent on the cats' personalities, whether the original cat NEEDS to be Alpha? Diane R. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 3:51 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: o/t established cat and new cat Hi guys I'm sorry I've not been on the list recently. (Trying to prepare to go to UK againwhileworking on an adopter for one of my fosters.) As always, all sick kitties are in my thoughts, and my heart goes out to those that have lostbeloved furbabies. I wonder if I could ask you knowledgeable folks a Q? The potential adopterof my foster, Kitty, took her own catto her parents place while she moved house. She says she nowwants to establish her cat inher new home before she takes Kitty. Surely it wd be better if she used this ideal opportunity to move them together into the new place? Any opinions much appreciated before I get back to her on this.I believe she plans to remove her cat tomorrow from her parents. Thanks as always Kerry IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Good point. Thanks for the reminder, Marylyn. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 11:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: o/t established cat and new cat When they are introduced please consider using lots of Feliway in the rooms, not on the cats, but on you and in the rooms, Super Catnip in the area and Rescue Remedy on the cats and in their water. Neither cat needs to be stressed any more than absolutely necessary. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Diane Rosenfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:44 PM Subject: RE: o/t established cat and new cat My first instinct was to say, first own cat, then after a while, Kitty. BUT. Then I thought of my own move, when Gail and I combined our respective households -- me with Missy, Luc, and at that time Phoebe, and her with Tribble and at that time Kitty. We hadn't introduced them all to each other, even though we lived a hallway away in our apartment building. It just didn't seem like a good idea. When we moved, we weren't too worried about the females, who were all sort of loners and wouldn't have territorial issues. We were worried about our two big Alphas, especially because Tribble especially is so confrontational. But when we let them out of the carriers and they saw each other, it was literally like: (nose touch) Dude! (ass sniff) Dude! No territorial stuff at all. (It probably helped, in the long run, that this house has 11 rooms and they wouldn't have to see each other at all if they didn't want to, but they didn't know that then.) So I'm wondering if, since there will be big changes for both cats anyway, it would be fine to introduce them to the new place at the same time, and maybe there wouldn't be territory wars. I don't know. Might be completely dependent on the cats' personalities, whether the original cat NEEDS to be Alpha? Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 3:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: o/t established cat and new cat Hi guys I'm sorry I've not been on the list recently. (Trying to prepare to go to UK again while working on an adopter for one of my fosters.) As always, all sick kitties are in my thoughts, and my heart goes out to those that have lost beloved furbabies. I wonder if I could ask you knowledgeable folks a Q? The potential adopter of my foster, Kitty, took her own cat to her parents place while she moved house. She says she now wants to establish her cat in her new home before she takes Kitty. Surely it wd be better if she used this ideal opportunity to move them together into the new place? Any opinions much appreciated before I get back to her on this.I believe she plans to remove her cat tomorrow from her parents. Thanks as always Kerry IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Title: Message Hi guys I'm sorry I've not been on the list recently. (Trying to prepare to go to UK againwhileworking on an adopter for one of my fosters.) As always, all sick kitties are in my thoughts, and my heart goes out to those that have lostbeloved furbabies. I wonder if I could ask you knowledgeable folks a Q? The potential adopterof my foster, Kitty, took her own catto her parents place while she moved house. She says she nowwants to establish her cat inher new home before she takes Kitty. Surely it wd be better if she used this ideal opportunity to move them together into the new place? Any opinions much appreciated before I get back to her on this.I believe she plans to remove her cat tomorrow from her parents. Thanks as always Kerry IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Title: Message I have to agree with this person.. any change is very stressful for a kitty.. I think its a probably good idea to introduce changes gradually so that this kitty wont be facing too many changes at the same time.. once this kitty is used to a new home and then can bring the kitty in.. she will be more receptive to her new kitty that way,, I think..just my two cents.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 2:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: o/t established cat and new cat Hi guys I'm sorry I've not been on the list recently. (Trying to prepare to go to UK againwhileworking on an adopter for one of my fosters.) As always, all sick kitties are in my thoughts, and my heart goes out to those that have lostbeloved furbabies. I wonder if I could ask you knowledgeable folks a Q? The potential adopterof my foster, Kitty, took her own catto her parents place while she moved house. She says she nowwants to establish her cat inher new home before she takes Kitty. Surely it wd be better if she used this ideal opportunity to move them together into the new place? Any opinions much appreciated before I get back to her on this.I believe she plans to remove her cat tomorrow from her parents. Thanks as always Kerry IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Title: Message Thanks Hideyo! -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo YamamotoSent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 3:59 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: o/t established cat and new cat I have to agree with this person.. any change is very stressful for a kitty.. I think its a probably good idea to introduce changes gradually so that this kitty wont be facing too many changes at the same time.. once this kitty is used to a new home and then can bring the kitty in.. she will be more receptive to her new kitty that way,, I think..just my two cents.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 2:51 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: o/t established cat and new cat Hi guys I'm sorry I've not been on the list recently. (Trying to prepare to go to UK againwhileworking on an adopter for one of my fosters.) As always, all sick kitties are in my thoughts, and my heart goes out to those that have lostbeloved furbabies. I wonder if I could ask you knowledgeable folks a Q? The potential adopterof my foster, Kitty, took her own catto her parents place while she moved house. She says she nowwants to establish her cat inher new home before she takes Kitty. Surely it wd be better if she used this ideal opportunity to move them together into the new place? Any opinions much appreciated before I get back to her on this.I believe she plans to remove her cat tomorrow from her parents. Thanks as always Kerry IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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My first instinct was to say, first own cat, then after a while, Kitty. BUT. Then I thought of my own move, when Gail and I combined our respective households -- me with Missy, Luc, and at that time Phoebe, and her with Tribble and at that time Kitty. We hadn't introduced them all to each other, even though we lived a hallway away in our apartment building. It just didn't seem like a good idea. When we moved, we weren't too worried about the females, who were all sort of loners and wouldn't have territorial issues. We were worried about our two big Alphas, especially because Tribble especially is so confrontational. But when we let them out of the carriers and they saw each other, it was literally like: (nose touch) Dude! (ass sniff) Dude! No territorial stuff at all. (It probably helped, in the long run, that this house has 11 rooms and they wouldn't have to see each other at all if they didn't want to, but they didn't know that then.) So I'm wondering if, since there will be big changes for both cats anyway, it would be fine to introduce them to the new place at the same time, and maybe there wouldn't be territory wars. I don't know. Might be completely dependent on the cats' personalities, whether the original cat NEEDS to be Alpha? Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 3:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: o/t established cat and new cat Hi guys I'm sorry I've not been on the list recently. (Trying to prepare to go to UK again while working on an adopter for one of my fosters.) As always, all sick kitties are in my thoughts, and my heart goes out to those that have lost beloved furbabies. I wonder if I could ask you knowledgeable folks a Q? The potential adopter of my foster, Kitty, took her own cat to her parents place while she moved house. She says she now wants to establish her cat in her new home before she takes Kitty. Surely it wd be better if she used this ideal opportunity to move them together into the new place? Any opinions much appreciated before I get back to her on this.I believe she plans to remove her cat tomorrow from her parents. Thanks as always Kerry IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. attachment: winmail.dat
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OMG -- my drink just went out my nose reading about your introductions LOL thanks for the laugh :0) dude! elizabeth In a message dated 9/12/2006 8:45:10 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My first instinct was to say, first own cat, then after a while, Kitty.BUT. Then I thought of my own move, when Gail and I combined our respectivehouseholds -- me with Missy, Luc, and at that time Phoebe, and her withTribble and at that time Kitty. We hadn't introduced them all to eachother, even though we lived a hallway away in our apartment building. Itjust didn't seem like a good idea. When we moved, we weren't too worriedabout the females, who were all sort of loners and wouldn't have territorialissues. We were worried about our two big Alphas, especially becauseTribble especially is so confrontational. But when we let them out of thecarriers and they saw each other, it was literally like:(nose touch) "Dude!" (ass sniff) "Dude!" No territorial stuff at all. (It probably helped, in the long run, thatthis house has 11 rooms and they wouldn't have to see each other at all ifthey didn't want to, but they didn't know that then.) So I'm wondering if,since there will be big changes for both cats anyway, it would be fine tointroduce them to the new place at the same time, and maybe there wouldn'tbe territory wars. I don't know. Might be completely dependent on thecats' personalities, whether the original cat NEEDS to be Alpha?Diane R.-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 3:51 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: o/t established cat and new catHi guysI'm sorry I've not been on the list recently. (Trying to prepare to go to UKagain while working on an adopter for one of my fosters.)As always, all sick kitties are in my thoughts, and my heart goes out tothose that have lost beloved furbabies.I wonder if I could ask you knowledgeable folks a Q? The potential adopter of my foster, Kitty, took her own cat to her parentsplace while she moved house. She says she now wants to establish her cat inher new home before she takes Kitty. Surely it wd be better if she used thisideal opportunity to move them together into the new place? Any opinionsmuch appreciated before I get back to her on this.I believe she plans toremove her cat tomorrow from her parents. Thanks as alwaysKerryIRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters wasneither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLPto be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoidingtax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses orrefers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending apartnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer,then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by aperson other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction ormatter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayersparticular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the useof the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have receivedthis email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not thenamed addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Support bacteria. They're the only culture some people have.
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When they are introduced please consider using lots of Feliway in the rooms, not on the cats, but on you and in the rooms, Super Catnip in the area and Rescue Remedy on the cats and in their water. Neither cat needs to be stressed any more than absolutely necessary. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Diane Rosenfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:44 PM Subject: RE: o/t established cat and new cat My first instinct was to say, first own cat, then after a while, Kitty. BUT. Then I thought of my own move, when Gail and I combined our respective households -- me with Missy, Luc, and at that time Phoebe, and her with Tribble and at that time Kitty. We hadn't introduced them all to each other, even though we lived a hallway away in our apartment building. It just didn't seem like a good idea. When we moved, we weren't too worried about the females, who were all sort of loners and wouldn't have territorial issues. We were worried about our two big Alphas, especially because Tribble especially is so confrontational. But when we let them out of the carriers and they saw each other, it was literally like: (nose touch) Dude! (ass sniff) Dude! No territorial stuff at all. (It probably helped, in the long run, that this house has 11 rooms and they wouldn't have to see each other at all if they didn't want to, but they didn't know that then.) So I'm wondering if, since there will be big changes for both cats anyway, it would be fine to introduce them to the new place at the same time, and maybe there wouldn't be territory wars. I don't know. Might be completely dependent on the cats' personalities, whether the original cat NEEDS to be Alpha? Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 3:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: o/t established cat and new cat Hi guys I'm sorry I've not been on the list recently. (Trying to prepare to go to UK again while working on an adopter for one of my fosters.) As always, all sick kitties are in my thoughts, and my heart goes out to those that have lost beloved furbabies. I wonder if I could ask you knowledgeable folks a Q? The potential adopter of my foster, Kitty, took her own cat to her parents place while she moved house. She says she now wants to establish her cat in her new home before she takes Kitty. Surely it wd be better if she used this ideal opportunity to move them together into the new place? Any opinions much appreciated before I get back to her on this.I believe she plans to remove her cat tomorrow from her parents. Thanks as always Kerry IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Leslie... I feel for you. What I've come to realize is that you just know when that certain cat needs to come home with you. Everything else all falls to the side... the test results, the costs, the special needs... none of that really matters. Your heart tells you what your actions should be, all you have to do is listen to it. :) Phaewryn PS, Prozac works wonders for the grieving process, makes life bearable when you lose one. I take it for about 6 months after I lose a baby.. then taper myself off when I can go to sleep without crying every night or breaking down in the middle of a work day for several weeks straight. Antidepressants may not be for everyone, but in my case, I do what I have to do to go on. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/410 - Release Date: 8/5/2006
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Title: Message PS, Prozac works wonders for the grieving process, makes life bearable when you lose one. I take it for about 6 months after I lose a baby.. then taper myself off when I can go to sleep without crying every night or breaking down in the middle of a work day for several weeks straight. Antidepressants may not be for everyone, but in my case, I do what I have to do to go on. I'm with you there. Whatever works, to keep functioning. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Introduction and new cat question - My experience - sorry guys it's long
Thanks Belinda--I'm keeping this in a special folder for future ref! Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 8:28 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Introduction and new cat question - My experience - sorry guys it's long Leslie, Negative cats can live with positive cats? I'd love to hear more about this from anyone that has/is successfully done it. To answer your question, I have over the course of the last 11 years mixed negatives and positives. Bailey joined us back in 1995, I had 3 cats at that time and they were all vaccinated and negative, when I found Bailey he was 5 months old and tested positive. I had him separated in his own room while I was trying to figure out how to convince hubby we were keeping him. My negatives at that time were Joey, 4 months old, Fred, about 4 years old, and Teenye, about 11 years old, all negative all vaccinated. I came home one day after having Bailey for about 5 months and couldn't find Joey, well the little stinker finally came out from under Bailey's bedroom door, he'd been sneaking in there playing with Bailey all along while I was at work. Well I didn't see any point in keeping them separate anymore, Joey had unknowingly exposed himself and everyone else for the last 5 months. I decided Bailey had found us for a reason and left everything to my faith in a higher power. I just lost Bailey on May 6th, 2006, 5 days after he turned 11 years old, he succumbed to pancreatic cancer which my vet say's mostly likely wasn't even related to his FeLV+ status, he was just unfortunate enough to get this type of cancer. In 11 years nobody ever got it from Bailey, all of my guys, ate, groomed, played, slept and on occasion had spats together. Joey and Bailey were very close and Joey so about 2 or 3 years ago I had him PCR (DNA) tested to be sure he wasn't positive and he wasn't, if anybody would have gotten it would have been him. Every year before vaccinations I had the negatives tested, everyone stayed negative. My vet wasn't in the least bit worried about them all living together, it's a well known fact to anyone that is knowledgeable about FeLV that it isn't as easy to catch as way too many vets who are NOT knowledgeable on FeLV will tell you. A healthy, adult, vaccinated cat has almost zero chance of getting it from a positive, and if they did their own immune system would almost certainly fight it off and they would turn negative. Kittens are alittle more susceptible but in my personal experience back in the 90's before I even know what FeLV was I had 5 cats all indoor, my then vet didn't tell me to vaccinate them for FeLV and being all indoor I wasn't too worried about it. Well long story short, come to find out 4 of my 5 were positive, Buddie whom I got at 8 weeks of age and she wasn't vaccinated for FeLV either at that time because at that time I didn't know I had any positives, she was the only one who tested negative when I did have them all tested. So this 8 week old unvaccinated kitten was around unknown positives all along and never got it. Teenye tested positive but turned negative and the other three I lost in a 15 month period to cancer and anemia. I don't know how many were positive when I got them because being naive back then and having a vet who wasn't very knowledgeable about it I never had any of them tested until one got sick. The current statistics say 1/3 of the positives will fight it off and be negative, I personally think that number is higher, because in my opinion many are never diagnosed, 1/3 will have it and be unsymptomatic for all or most of their lives, many of these in my opinion remain undiagnosed also, so people may have positives and never know it, and 1/3 may be sickly most of their lives and will eventually succumb to an opportunistic disease such as lymphoma, an anemia related illness, or something as simple as a severe URI, chronic herpes, or other viral infection that they just can't fight off. Of the last 1/3 that are sickly many will get it while very young, at birth or soon after birth. But as with anything there are exceptions to this rule also and Bailey is a testament to that, at 5 months he was already positive and who knows when he contracted it. He was healthy all his life until about the last year or so, his first problem was with his teeth, we fixed that and he was fine again until his last 5 months when he turned up anemic which we corrected, but we never could find the cancer we were sure he had. We didn't find it until he past and like I said my vet didn't think his positive status had anything to do with it, it wasn't a cancer that is associated or common with positives. ANY vet who suggests killing a cat simply because they test positive would NOT be touching any of my furkids, if they are that ignorant about
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1/3 will have it and be unsymptomatic for all or most of their lives, many of these in my opinion remain undiagnosed also, so people may have positives and never know it How very true! Most cats are never tested and if they're never sick, for sure they're not tested. This is not a new virus and has been around forever--if it were all that lethal, there wouldn't be any cats left in this world! I'm afraid that the high mortality rates come from strays who are brought to vets already very sick and young kittens. These are the most vulnerable to begin with. Strays who really live on their own do not have a long life expectancy to begin with... Kittens, well sadly, there are so many things that can happen to them. So, as a 'mixer', I give my 5 guys lots of good food, love, a warm place and keep my fingers crossed that my two pos don't develop some of those cancers that FELV+ cats can be prone to. As for my 3 negs, I don't worry about them catching anything...they were exposed long before I knew that one of my pos was pos and didn't catch anything! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:28 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Introduction and new cat question - My experience - sorry guys it's long Leslie, Negative cats can live with positive cats? I'd love to hear more about this from anyone that has/is successfully done it. To answer your question, I have over the course of the last 11 years mixed negatives and positives. Bailey joined us back in 1995, I had 3 cats at that time and they were all vaccinated and negative, when I found Bailey he was 5 months old and tested positive. I had him separated in his own room while I was trying to figure out how to convince hubby we were keeping him. My negatives at that time were Joey, 4 months old, Fred, about 4 years old, and Teenye, about 11 years old, all negative all vaccinated. I came home one day after having Bailey for about 5 months and couldn't find Joey, well the little stinker finally came out from under Bailey's bedroom door, he'd been sneaking in there playing with Bailey all along while I was at work. Well I didn't see any point in keeping them separate anymore, Joey had unknowingly exposed himself and everyone else for the last 5 months. I decided Bailey had found us for a reason and left everything to my faith in a higher power. I just lost Bailey on May 6th, 2006, 5 days after he turned 11 years old, he succumbed to pancreatic cancer which my vet say's mostly likely wasn't even related to his FeLV+ status, he was just unfortunate enough to get this type of cancer. In 11 years nobody ever got it from Bailey, all of my guys, ate, groomed, played, slept and on occasion had spats together. Joey and Bailey were very close and Joey so about 2 or 3 years ago I had him PCR (DNA) tested to be sure he wasn't positive and he wasn't, if anybody would have gotten it would have been him. Every year before vaccinations I had the negatives tested, everyone stayed negative. My vet wasn't in the least bit worried about them all living together, it's a well known fact to anyone that is knowledgeable about FeLV that it isn't as easy to catch as way too many vets who are NOT knowledgeable on FeLV will tell you. A healthy, adult, vaccinated cat has almost zero chance of getting it from a positive, and if they did their own immune system would almost certainly fight it off and they would turn negative. Kittens are alittle more susceptible but in my personal experience back in the 90's before I even know what FeLV was I had 5 cats all indoor, my then vet didn't tell me to vaccinate them for FeLV and being all indoor I wasn't too worried about it. Well long story short, come to find out 4 of my 5 were positive, Buddie whom I got at 8 weeks of age and she wasn't vaccinated for FeLV either at that time because at that time I didn't know I had any positives, she was the only one who tested negative when I did have them all tested. So this 8 week old unvaccinated kitten was around unknown positives all along and never got it. Teenye tested positive but turned negative and the other three I lost in a 15 month period to cancer and anemia. I don't know how many were positive when I got them because being naive back then and having a vet who wasn't very knowledgeable about it I never had any of them tested until one got sick. The current statistics say 1/3 of the positives will fight it off and be negative, I personally think that number is higher, because in my opinion many are never diagnosed, 1/3 will have it and be unsymptomatic for all or most of their lives, many of these in my opinion remain undiagnosed also, so people may have positives and never know it, and 1/3 may be sickly most of their lives and will eventually succumb to an opportunistic disease
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Hey Leslie, You're right, the FeLV vaccinations aren't 100% effective. I think it's more like 80% or so; not sure. But the vaccinations, coupled with the fact that FeLV is NOT easy to spread, makes for a good combination when mixing pos's and neg's. My cats (3; one very geriatric) lived with my Cricket for four years, and I didn't know he had FeLV for the first two years, so they weren't vaccinated then. None of the 3 have FeLV now, and Cricket has been gone for 9 months. Many people here mix too. So I am big believer in mixing. :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Very well said! In a message dated 8/3/2006 6:30:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Leslie, Negative cats can live with positive cats? I'd love to hear more about this from anyone that has/is successfully done it.To answer your question, I have over the course of the last 11 years mixed negatives and positives. Bailey joined us back in 1995, I had 3 cats at that time and they were all vaccinated and negative, when I found Bailey he was 5 months old and tested positive. I had him separated in his own room while I was trying to figure out how to convince hubby we were keeping him. My negatives at that time were Joey, 4 months old, Fred, about 4 years old, and Teenye, about 11 years old, all negative all vaccinated. I came home one day after having Bailey for about 5 months and couldn't find Joey, well the little stinker finally came out from under Bailey's bedroom door, he'd been sneaking in there playing with Bailey all along while I was at work. Well I didn't see any point in keeping them separate anymore, Joey had unknowingly exposed himself and everyone else for the last 5 months. I decided Bailey had found us for a reason and left everything to my faith in a higher power.I just lost Bailey on May 6th, 2006, 5 days after he turned 11 years old, he succumbed to pancreatic cancer which my vet say's mostly likely wasn't even related to his FeLV+ status, he was just unfortunate enough to get this type of cancer. In 11 years nobody ever got it from Bailey, all of my guys, ate, groomed, played, slept and on occasion had spats together. Joey and Bailey were very close and Joey so about 2 or 3 years ago I had him PCR (DNA) tested to be sure he wasn't positive and he wasn't, if anybody would have gotten it would have been him. Every year before vaccinations I had the negatives tested, everyone stayed negative. My vet wasn't in the least bit worried about them all living together, it's a well known fact to anyone that is knowledgeable about FeLV that it isn't as easy to catch as way too many vets who are NOT knowledgeable on FeLV will tell you. A healthy, adult, vaccinated cat has almost zero chance of getting it from a positive, and if they did their own immune system would almost certainly fight it off and they would turn negative.Kittens are alittle more susceptible but in my personal experience back in the 90's before I even know what FeLV was I had 5 cats all indoor, my then vet didn't tell me to vaccinate them for FeLV and being all indoor I wasn't too worried about it. Well long story short, come to find out 4 of my 5 were positive, Buddie whom I got at 8 weeks of age and she wasn't vaccinated for FeLV either at that time because at that time I didn't know I had any positives, she was the only one who tested negative when I did have them all tested. So this 8 week old unvaccinated kitten was around unknown positives all along and never got it. Teenye tested positive but turned negative and the other three I lost in a 15 month period to cancer and anemia. I don't know how many were positive when I got them because being naive back then and having a vet who wasn't very knowledgeable about it I never had any of them tested until one got sick.The current statistics say 1/3 of the positives will fight it off and be negative, I personally think that number is higher, because in my opinion many are never diagnosed, 1/3 will have it and be unsymptomatic for all or most of their lives, many of these in my opinion remain undiagnosed also, so people may have positives and never know it, and 1/3 may be sickly most of their lives and will eventually succumb to an opportunistic disease such as lymphoma, an anemia related illness, or something as simple as a severe URI, chronic herpes, or other viral infection that they just can't fight off. Of the last 1/3 that are sickly many will get it while very young, at birth or soon after birth.But as with anything there are exceptions to this rule also and Bailey is a testament to that, at 5 months he was already positive and who knows when he contracted it. He was healthy all his life until about the last year or so, his first problem was with his teeth, we fixed that and he was fine again until his last 5 months when he turned up anemic which we corrected, but we never could find the cancer we were sure he had. We didn't find it until he past and like I said my vet didn't think his positive status had anything to do with it, it wasn't a cancer that is associated or common with positives.ANY vet who suggests killing a cat simply because they test positive would NOT be touching any of my furkids, if they are that ignorant about the virus, who knows how ignorant they are about other things??-- Belindahappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kittieshttp://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candlelight Servicehttp://bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web
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Hey Leslie, Not a weird question at all. I think if you can handle the stress yourself if you lost any more and you know Satchmo would love another friend, then adopting would be right. Only you can know if you can keep giving of yourself. I have about 9 negatives, so adopting a positive right now is not in the cards, but in the future I don't think I'd be opposed to it if I had less negatives, no immune compromised (I have 2 right now), and no geriatrics (have 3). What a wonderful person you are to help these babies!!! :) Wendy Dallas, TX __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Title: Message Leslie, I just looked atyour pic---you are right---Trixie is extremely cute---completely adorable! I have a Trixie too (usually called Trixie Pixie). ReWhat I wonder is, if I lost Satch, would I adopt another FeLV+ cat?I can totally see why you're asking yourself the question--I would, too--but of course there's no way to answer it now.We can't knownow what we'd do in the future, and that's if the question is still valid then anyway. (I began the process of looking for another young positive when all Mickey's siblings passed; then it occurred to me--what if by some miracle he tests negative? Which of course he did!) Something else to consider: vaccinating your negatives, and integrating all, something many far-more-experienced-than-mefolks on the list do without repercussion. I always held back because of the associated sarcoma risk of the FeLV vaccine. However there is now a new, reportedly safer vaccine by Merial. In May, there was a week's interval between Mickey and then Momcat's re-test. During that time, I decided that if by some horrible twist of fate the previously negative Momcat (she shared everything with all the postives) had become pos, I was now going to vaccinate all my other, neg, cats and integrate her anyway. As she has remained neg, I haven't had to do that. Just another avenue to consider! No, I did nothing special for Mickey that the others did not get. They all got the supplements recommended by Anitra Frazier, filtered water, human Interferon (tho because they're feral not possible to administer it the way it shouldbe done), high quality food (Petguard/Wellness) and medical intervention when required. I guess it was the luck of the draw that he threw it off while the others could not. Keep us posted on your decision! Kerry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LeslieSent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:32 PMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Introduction and new cat question Kerry, Thank you so much for your thoughts. You are right, to have a support group would make a big difference. What I wonder is, if I lost Satch, would I adopt another FeLV+ cat? I like taking in the hard-to-adopt animals, because it does feel so good, so I think that I might, but I'm not sure - a support system would be a big change in this.My Humane Society is no kill, so I don't feel like I need to rescue this kitten, which is nice, they do an excellent job of finding homes for their animals. But just take a look at her: http://www.oregonhumane.org/cats/detail.asp?animalID=45154 What a cutie! :) Andhow wonderful about the retest, Kerry!!! Did you follow a course of treatment toobtain this result? If you've already discussed publicly, please send me the archived conversation, I'd love to read it. As I've said privatelyin thanking those others who've responded, I'm really thrilled to have found this group! Leslie --Message: 2Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:25:10 -0500From: "MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: Introduction and new cat questionTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"Welcome Leslie! It's good to have you on board, although I'm sorry forthe reason you've had to find us.I think you just answered your own question. I think the capacity for heartbreak and pain that often accompanies acommitment to our little FeLV souls varies according to the individual(I say "often", by the way, because quite a few members have FeLV positives that are a ripe old age, and happily still going strong). Ihave been humbled and amazed and inspired in turn by the sheerdedication of so many of the wonderful people on this list to thewelfare of cats in need. Many--most?--of them have suffered heartbreak over and over again but somehow gather the strength to keep going, to dowhatever they can for cats in need. I know I could not have got throughlosing so many---4 sweet positives, 2 of whom I lost one after another on the same awful day, and months later, a darling CRF cat, who I had"fostered-for-life" in the meantime--without the support of the group. Iknow that I'll lose more (unless I go first!); but I feel I'll get through it. Knowing I can perhaps do a little to help improve thequality of life of a cat that is totally dependent on me has so faroutweighed any inclination I may have had to protect myself from furthergrief. But, I have to add that for me, at any rate, it would have been much, much harder without the tremendous support of this group.We'll be here for you, too.My positives all enjoyed each other's company for the short time (18months - 2 years) that they had, and I know that having each other added to their quality of life. I have scores of photos of them playing andcuddling up together which make me smile now, even though they're
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Hi, Maggie, when you suggest getting an older cat, I am on board with that, that is a good idea. I know that kittens are more susceptible, but you always hope, don't you? :) So Trixie now has a littermate with her at the Humane Society, one that show that they have Manx in them, because she has just a little puff where there would normally be a tail. I went and visited them today and they are so cute and active, go, go, go the whole time. That is something that I want for Satch because he is so rambunctious. But now that there are two of these girls, I really hope that they can get adopted together. Maybe I'll wait and see if they can find them a home together and if not, I'll rescue the one that wasn't chosen. I like adopting adult cats anyway, because their personalities are more formed. And Kerry, that is fascinating what you suggest. Negative cats can live with positive cats?I'd love to hear more about this from anyone that has/is successfully done it. I know that leukemia vaccinations exist, butI didn't think that they were that strong. I'll ask my vet about both Interferon and Merial, I see her next Wednesday.That's really fascinating. Thank you so much for your input, Leslie
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Hello, My name is Leslie. My cat's name is Satchmo. He's 6 years old, I adopted him at 5 years old knowing that he had feline leukemia. My question is about adopting him a friend. Now the background. Four years ago I adopted Sushi, a 2 yr old DSH that had been rescued from a house full of cats. She had been tested for everything in the shelter and came back negative. A month after having her, she got lethargic, I took her to the vet, she was retested and the test came back positive for FeLV. I was devastated, but she already had my heart so completely that returning her wasn't even considered, and she was doing great, actually. Great coat, very spunky, I started researching how to keep her around as long as possible. And on this optimistic vein, I decided to adopt another FeLV+ cat to keep her company, Hepburn, a 10-month old kitten that had had some health issues, but had been nursed back to health by the vet. Eight months after adopting Hepburn, Sushi passed on from a myocardial infarction, the vet guessed. I was heartbroken. Four months later, I adopted Hepburn a friend.Where Sushi was mischeivious, Hepburn was sweet. She was a cat that rewarded you for being quiet and giving her time. The new addition, Satchmo, was a five year old brown tabbywith the mannersof a dumptruck, but the charm to make you laugh instead of scream. Again, a few months later, Hep took a turn for the worse, appetite gone, the vet not being able to pin it on a specific infection. We'd fought this off once before, but this time instead of getting better, she jaundiced and her belly swelled up. She was diagnosed with FIP. Again, I was just crushed to lose her. Now, nearly ayear later, I have this wonderful cat, Satch,who loves other animals and has so much life in him. Hegets sneezy every few months, but fights it back. He is on a vet-approved raw diet and Feline Immune Support. His coat is beautiful, his eyes clear, he's a very happy guy. I really do believe that cats benefit from being in pairs, but I'm soscared to getanother just to lose the first. I volunteer at the Humane Society here in Portland (a really fantastic organization) and there is a 2 month old kitten who is FeLV+. She's in good health so far...and I've been tempted to adopt more at this point than before in the year since Hep passed. What do you all think? Do youadopt another? Can you keep giving of yourselves? This is a weird question, I know, but any advice you might have would be appreciated. Thank you, Leslie
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If I could financially afford it then yes, I would take another. Welcome to the group!tonyaLeslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hello, My name is Leslie. My cat's name is Satchmo. He's 6 years old, I adopted him at 5 years old knowing that he had feline leukemia. My question is about adopting him a friend.Now the background. Four years ago I adopted Sushi, a 2 yr old DSH that had been rescued from a house full of cats. She had been tested for everything in the shelter and came back negative. A month after having her, she got lethargic, I took her to the vet, she was retested and the test came back positive for FeLV. I was devastated, but she already had my heart so completely that returning her wasn't even considered, and she was doing great, actually. Great coat, very spunky, I started researching how to keep her around as long as possible. And on this optimistic vein, I decided to adopt another FeLV+ cat to keep her company, Hepburn, a 10-month old kitten that had had some health issues, but had been nursed back to health by the vet. Eight months after adopting Hepburn, Sushi passed on from a myocardial infarction, the vet guessed. I was heartbroken.Four months later, I adopted Hepburn a friend.Where Sushi was mischeivious, Hepburn was sweet. She was a cat that rewarded you for being quiet and giving her time. The new addition, Satchmo, was a five year old brown tabbywith the mannersof a dumptruck, but the charm to make you laugh instead of scream. Again, a few months later, Hep took a turn for the worse, appetite gone, the vet not being able to pin it on a specific infection. We'd fought this off once before, but this time instead of getting better, she jaundiced and her belly swelled up. She was diagnosed with FIP. Again, I was just crushed to lose her.Now, nearly ayear later, I have this wonderful cat, Satch,who loves other animals and has so much life in him. Hegets sneezy every few months, but fights it back. He is on a vet-approved raw diet and Feline Immune Support. His coat is beautiful, his eyes clear, he's a very happy guy. I really do believe that cats benefit from being in pairs, but I'm soscared to getanother just to lose the first. I volunteer at the Humane Society here in Portland (a really fantastic organization) and there is a 2 month old kitten who is FeLV+. She's in good health so far...and I've been tempted to adopt more at this point than before in the year since Hep passed. What do you all think? Do youadopt another? Can you keep giving of yourselves? This is a weird question, I know, but any advice you might have would be appreciated. Thank you, Leslie
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It's great to have you on this group! Best group of people around as you will find out in time. I'm in WA. myself. The Humane Society you volunteer at is one of the few I have respect for because they genuinely care about the animals. I have worked with them in the past on Siamese at the shelter. Well, only you can make the decision on whether you want ot bring another furbaby into your home. Personally, I would.it's the chance you have to take whether they are healthy or not. I would hope they give you a discount or for free on the kitten since she did test Felv+ that in time your going to have extra expenses for special meds to increase the quality of life for her. There aren't many rescues in OR that will take a positive baby. I'm not aware of any at this time that are taking any. No, it's not a weird question to ask! In a message dated 8/1/2006 1:27:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I volunteer at the Humane Society here in Portland (a really fantastic organization) and there is a 2 month old kitten who is FeLV+. She's in good health so far...and I've been tempted to adopt more at this point than before in the year since Hep passed. What do you all think? Do youadopt another? Can you keep giving of yourselves? This is a weird question, I know, but any advice you might have would be appreciated. Thank you, Leslie Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/SNOHOMISH_COUNTY_PETS_in_WAhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue
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Oh Leslie, have you ever found the right group of people!! We so get the my heart expands until it feels like it's going to explode thing! What can I tell you that you don't already know? Adopting these angels, giving them a chance at life and love in a caring environment, isn't that what it's all about? Yes, it hurts when their time comes, yes we think we'll never recover, but somehow we do. Somehow we realize that loving them and losing them, no matter how heart wrenching that is, is worth it for the joy and happiness they bring. It's all the same coin, my dear. No one can tell you how much your heart can bear, but I know mine just keeps expanding, it hasn't exploded yet! Whatever you decide, I'm sure it will be the right decision for you and for Satchmo, (and if you go get that baby, it will definitely be the right one for her!). Welcome to the list, you sure do sound like one of us! Nina Leslie wrote: Hello, My name is Leslie. My cat's name is Satchmo. He's 6 years old, I adopted him at 5 years old knowing that he had feline leukemia. My question is about adopting him a friend. Now the background. Four years ago I adopted Sushi, a 2 yr old DSH that had been rescued from a house full of cats. She had been tested for everything in the shelter and came back negative. A month after having her, she got lethargic, I took her to the vet, she was retested and the test came back positive for FeLV. I was devastated, but she already had my heart so completely that returning her wasn't even considered, and she was doing great, actually. Great coat, very spunky, I started researching how to keep her around as long as possible. And on this optimistic vein, I decided to adopt another FeLV+ cat to keep her company, Hepburn, a 10-month old kitten that had had some health issues, but had been nursed back to health by the vet. Eight months after adopting Hepburn, Sushi passed on from a myocardial infarction, the vet guessed. I was heartbroken. Four months later, I adopted Hepburn a friend. Where Sushi was mischeivious, Hepburn was sweet. She was a cat that rewarded you for being quiet and giving her time. The new addition, Satchmo, was a five year old brown tabby with the manners of a dumptruck, but the charm to make you laugh instead of scream. Again, a few months later, Hep took a turn for the worse, appetite gone, the vet not being able to pin it on a specific infection. We'd fought this off once before, but this time instead of getting better, she jaundiced and her belly swelled up. She was diagnosed with FIP. Again, I was just crushed to lose her. Now, nearly a year later, I have this wonderful cat, Satch, who loves other animals and has so much life in him. He gets sneezy every few months, but fights it back. He is on a vet-approved raw diet and Feline Immune Support. His coat is beautiful, his eyes clear, he's a very happy guy. I really do believe that cats benefit from being in pairs, but I'm so scared to get another just to lose the first. I volunteer at the Humane Society here in Portland (a really fantastic organization) and there is a 2 month old kitten who is FeLV+. She's in good health so far...and I've been tempted to adopt more at this point than before in the year since Hep passed. What do you all think? Do you adopt another? Can you keep giving of yourselves? This is a weird question, I know, but any advice you might have would be appreciated. Thank you, Leslie
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Title: Message Welcome Leslie! It's good to have you on board, although I'm sorry for the reason you've had to find us. I think you just answered your own question. I think the capacity for heartbreak and pain that often accompanies a commitment to our little FeLV souls varies accordingto the individual(I say "often", by the way, because quite a few members have FeLVpositives that are a ripe old age, and happily still going strong). I have been humbled and amazed and inspired in turn by the sheer dedication of so many of the wonderful people on this list to the welfare of cats in need. Many--most?--ofthem have suffered heartbreak over and over again but somehow gather the strength to keep going, to do whatever they can for cats in need. I know I could not have got through losing so many---4 sweet positives, 2 of whom I lost one after another on the same awful day, and months later,a darling CRF cat, who I had "fostered-for-life" in the meantime--without the support of the group. I know that I'll lose more (unless I go first!); but I feel I'll get through it. Knowing I can perhaps do a little to help improve the quality of life of a cat that is totally dependent on me has so far outweighed any inclination I may have hadto protect myself from further grief. But, I have to add that for me, at any rate, it would have been much, muchharder without the tremendous support of this group. We'll be here for you, too. My positives all enjoyed each other's company for the short time (18 months - 2 years) that they had, and I know that having each other added to their quality of life. I have scores ofphotos of them playing and cuddling up together which make me smile now, even though they're no longer physically with me. I'd say, go for it! And welcome again! Kerry PS On an even happier note, when I retested the 5th (and only remaining) kitten of the original colony of 6, he tested negative---he's thrown off the virus. Yes, that can happen too. I didn't really believe it until I saw it for myself. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LeslieSent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 3:26 PMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Introduction and new cat question Hello, My name is Leslie. My cat's name is Satchmo. He's 6 years old, I adopted him at 5 years old knowing that he had feline leukemia. My question is about adopting him a friend. Now the background. Four years ago I adopted Sushi, a 2 yr old DSH that had been rescued from a house full of cats. She had been tested for everything in the shelter and came back negative. A month after having her, she got lethargic, I took her to the vet, she was retested and the test came back positive for FeLV. I was devastated, but she already had my heart so completely that returning her wasn't even considered, and she was doing great, actually. Great coat, very spunky, I started researching how to keep her around as long as possible. And on this optimistic vein, I decided to adopt another FeLV+ cat to keep her company, Hepburn, a 10-month old kitten that had had some health issues, but had been nursed back to health by the vet. Eight months after adopting Hepburn, Sushi passed on from a myocardial infarction, the vet guessed. I was heartbroken. Four months later, I adopted Hepburn a friend.Where Sushi was mischeivious, Hepburn was sweet. She was a cat that rewarded you for being quiet and giving her time. The new addition, Satchmo, was a five year old brown tabbywith the mannersof a dumptruck, but the charm to make you laugh instead of scream. Again, a few months later, Hep took a turn for the worse, appetite gone, the vet not being able to pin it on a specific infection. We'd fought this off once before, but this time instead of getting better, she jaundiced and her belly swelled up. She was diagnosed with FIP. Again, I was just crushed to lose her. Now, nearly ayear later, I have this wonderful cat, Satch,who loves other animals and has so much life in him. Hegets sneezy every few months, but fights it back. He is on a vet-approved raw diet and Feline Immune Support. His coat is beautiful, his eyes clear, he's a very happy guy. I really do believe that cats benefit from being in pairs, but I'm soscared to getanother just to lose the first. I volunteer at the Humane Society here in Portland (a really fantastic organization) and there is a 2 month old kitten who is FeLV+. She's in good health so far...and I've been tempted to adopt more at this point than before in the year since Hep passed. What do you all think? Do youadopt another? Can you keep giving of yourselves? This is a weird question, I know, but any advice you might have would be appreciated. Thank you, Leslie IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be use
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Kerry that was very well said! That's great news about the final kitten! In a message dated 8/1/2006 2:26:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Welcome Leslie! It's good to have you on board, although I'm sorry for the reason you've had to find us. I think you just answered your own question. I think the capacity for heartbreak and pain that often accompanies a commitment to our little FeLV souls varies accordingto the individual(I say "often", by the way, because quite a few members have FeLVpositives that are a ripe old age, and happily still going strong). I have been humbled and amazed and inspired in turn by the sheer dedication of so many of the wonderful people on this list to the welfare of cats in need. Many--most?--ofthem have suffered heartbreak over and over again but somehow gather the strength to keep going, to do whatever they can for cats in need. I know I could not have got through losing so many---4 sweet positives, 2 of whom I lost one after another on the same awful day, and months later,a darling CRF cat, who I had "fostered-for-life" in the meantime--without the support of the group. I know that I'll lose more (unless I go first!); but I feel I'll get through it. Knowing I can perhaps do a little to help improve the quality of life of a cat that is totally dependent on me has so far outweighed any inclination I may have hadto protect myself from further grief. But, I have to add that for me, at any rate, it would have been much, muchharder without the tremendous support of this group. We'll be here for you, too. My positives all enjoyed each other's company for the short time (18 months - 2 years) that they had, and I know that having each other added to their quality of life. I have scores ofphotos of them playing and cuddling up together which make me smile now, even though they're no longer physically with me. I'd say, go for it! And welcome again! Kerry PS On an even happier note, when I retested the 5th (and only remaining) kitten of the original colony of 6, he tested negative---he's thrown off the virus. Yes, that can happen too. I didn't really believe it until I saw it for myself. Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/SNOHOMISH_COUNTY_PETS_in_WAhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue
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Amen to that, Nina! Welcome Leslie! And welcome to all the other new members I missed this past week! Craziness here for me! Terri in NJ =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec Salome' =^..^= Cool Catholic Stuff! Click Here -- www.TotallyCatholic.com/Theresa Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350Come check me out on MySpace at http://www.myspace.com/terricrazycatlady - Original Message - From: Nina To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:57 PM Subject: Re: Introduction and new cat question Oh Leslie, have you ever found the right group of people!! We so get the "my heart expands until it feels like it's going to explode" thing! What can I tell you that you don't already know? Adopting these angels, giving them a chance at life and love in a caring environment, isn't that what it's all about? Yes, it hurts when their time comes, yes we think we'll never recover, but somehow we do. Somehow we realize that loving them and losing them, no matter how heart wrenching that is, is worth it for the joy and happiness they bring. It's all the same coin, my dear. No one can tell you how much your heart can bear, but I know mine just keeps expanding, it hasn't exploded yet! Whatever you decide, I'm sure it will be the right decision for you and for Satchmo, (and if you go get that baby, it will definitely be the right one for her!). Welcome to the list, you sure do sound like one of us!NinaLeslie wrote: Hello, My name is Leslie. My cat's name is Satchmo. He's 6 years old, I adopted him at 5 years old knowing that he had feline leukemia. My question is about adopting him a friend. Now the background. Four years ago I adopted Sushi, a 2 yr old DSH that had been rescued from a house full of cats. She had been tested for everything in the shelter and came back negative. A month after having her, she got lethargic, I took her to the vet, she was retested and the test came back positive for FeLV. I was devastated, but she already had my heart so completely that returning her wasn't even considered, and she was doing great, actually. Great coat, very spunky, I started researching how to keep her around as long as possible. And on this optimistic vein, I decided to adopt another FeLV+ cat to keep her company, Hepburn, a 10-month old kitten that had had some health issues, but had been nursed back to health by the vet. Eight months after adopting Hepburn, Sushi passed on from a myocardial infarction, the vet guessed. I was heartbroken. Four months later, I adopted Hepburn a friend. Where Sushi was mischeivious, Hepburn was sweet. She was a cat that rewarded you for being quiet and giving her time. The new addition, Satchmo, was a five year old brown tabby with the manners of a dumptruck, but the charm to make you laugh instead of scream. Again, a few months later, Hep took a turn for the worse, appetite gone, the vet not being able to pin it on a specific infection. We'd fought this off once before, but this time instead of getting better, she jaundiced and her belly swelled up. She was diagnosed with FIP. Again, I was just crushed to lose her. Now, nearly a year later, I have this wonderful cat, Satch, who loves other animals and has so much life in him. He gets sneezy every few months, but fights it back. He is on a vet-approved raw diet and Feline Immune Support. His coat is beautiful, his eyes clear, he's a very happy guy. I really do believe that cats benefit from being in pairs, but I'm so scared to get another just to lose the first. I volunteer at the Humane Society here in Portland (a really fantastic organization) and there is a 2 month old kitten who is FeLV+. She's in good health so far...and I've been tempted to adopt more at this point than before in the year since Hep passed. What do you all think? Do you adopt another? Can you keep giving of yourselves? This is a weird question, I know, but any advice you might have would be appreciated. Thank you, Leslie
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Kerry, Thank you so much for your thoughts. You are right, to have a support group would make a big difference. What I wonder is, if I lost Satch, would I adopt another FeLV+ cat? I like taking in the hard-to-adopt animals, because it does feel so good, so I think that I might, but I'm not sure - a support system would be a big change in this.My Humane Society is no kill, so I don't feel like I need to rescue this kitten, which is nice, they do an excellent job of finding homes for their animals. But just take a look at her: http://www.oregonhumane.org/cats/detail.asp?animalID=45154 What a cutie! :) Andhow wonderful about the retest, Kerry!!! Did you follow a course of treatment toobtain this result? If you've already discussed publicly, please send me the archived conversation, I'd love to read it. As I've said privatelyin thanking those others who've responded, I'm really thrilled to have found this group! Leslie --Message: 2Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:25:10 -0500From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: Introduction and new cat questionTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-asciiWelcome Leslie! It's good to have you on board, although I'm sorry forthe reason you've had to find us.I think you just answered your own question. I think the capacity for heartbreak and pain that often accompanies acommitment to our little FeLV souls varies according to the individual(I say often, by the way, because quite a few members have FeLV positives that are a ripe old age, and happily still going strong). Ihave been humbled and amazed and inspired in turn by the sheerdedication of so many of the wonderful people on this list to thewelfare of cats in need. Many--most?--of them have suffered heartbreak over and over again but somehow gather the strength to keep going, to dowhatever they can for cats in need. I know I could not have got throughlosing so many---4 sweet positives, 2 of whom I lost one after another on the same awful day, and months later, a darling CRF cat, who I hadfostered-for-life in the meantime--without the support of the group. Iknow that I'll lose more (unless I go first!); but I feel I'll get through it. Knowing I can perhaps do a little to help improve thequality of life of a cat that is totally dependent on me has so faroutweighed any inclination I may have had to protect myself from furthergrief. But, I have to add that for me, at any rate, it would have been much, much harder without the tremendous support of this group.We'll be here for you, too.My positives all enjoyed each other's company for the short time (18months - 2 years) that they had, and I know that having each other added to their quality of life. I have scores of photos of them playing andcuddling up together which make me smile now, even though they're nolonger physically with me.I'd say, go for it!And welcome again! Kerry PS On an even happier note, when I retested the 5th (and onlyremaining) kitten of the original colony of 6, he tested negative---he'sthrown off the virus. Yes, that can happen too. I didn't really believe it until I saw it for myself.
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Yes, she is a doll! She looks like my Torti named "Buggy" if you like to see a photo of her let me know I can send a photo to you or anyone. She was a rescue too at the age of 5 weeks old. I've had her for 4 yrs now. Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/SNOHOMISH_COUNTY_PETS_in_WAhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue
Re: a little help with litter training the new cat
Hi Thanks for all the suggestions. We added another litter pan and changed the litter and also dewormed him. took Yodel to the vet the other day and he says he looks good and everything is well with him. He hasn't pooed in the tub or on top of my husbands coat so far, thank god...I am also crossing my fingers that there are no little presents anywhere. Yodel finds places to relax away from the dogs in the cat tree and also higher places around the apartment. So thank you all for the information. I really appreciate it. From Jeni Papoose Yodel From: Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: a little help with litter training the new cat Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:17:45 -0600 Also - has he had anything to deal with intestinal parasites? Might talk to the vet and get something for parasites - or get a stool test. Think our rescue uses Drontal and Flagyl before adopting out, for that sort of thing. It's not unusual for cats coming out of rescue to have that sort of thing and to poo inappropriately. Re the other dogs and cats s- give him some chill time along in the bathroom or wherever, so he has a chance to regroup periodically. Gloria On Mar 25, 2006, at 10:23 PM, Patricia Lamoretti wrote: Sounds like a possible case of IBD. Cats will typically go outside the box because there's discomfort ... kinda like a urinary problem. Has Yodel been tested for parasites (just starting with basics)? You may want to change the food. Try a higher protein, human grade, canned food. Stay away from the kibble and if that doesn't work ... see a vet, I guess ... Unless someone has another suggestion? You can also go onto Feline IBD sites/groups/message boards and post there about your problem. Good Luck -- PAT JENI RECA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I know this was the best place to ask about cat questions, so here goes...I just brought a new feluk postive 6 month old cat (Yodel- lay-he-hoo, yodel for short) to our apartment, we have a feluk postive 6 month old cat (papoose) now and three dogs. Yodel seems not to like to poo in the litter box, but will poo in the bath tub and also on top of my husbands coat on the kitchen table (wow was he not happy about that, since he didnt even want the first cat) ...our set up at first when we brought him home to our one bedroom apartment was, yodel in the bathroom with his own litter pan and papoose had the rest of the place with his own litter pan. Yodel pooed in the tub, the cat behavorist at the shelter thought he liked the feeling of the tub and suggested we take out some of the litter, so we did, and well that didn't help, but we didnt find poo in the tub, but we didnt see any in the litterpan and well couldnt find any presents in the bathroom. We gave him more run of the house and (that may have not been the best choice but he was meowing up a storm in the bathroom!) we thought we were going ok for a little some poo in the litter box which is located in a crate with a small opening for the cats to go in and out of, but the dogs that love to eat poo can not get to it (just our luck dogs that love to eat cat poo). The other night he pooed on my husbands coat. I am going to introduce another litter box in the crate, but we unfortunately can not place a bunch all over the place because of our dogs. Any suggestions , we are going to try different litter and hopefully try to get a litter pan that the dogs cant get into...thank you oh and papoose seems to like to beat up yodel and hold him down and then lick him furiously and then beat him up again..is that odd? (i just feel bad for the new cat, cause he is such a lover and he hates the dogs and papoose is a bully to him) Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2ยข/min or less.
Re: a little help with litter training the new cat
My kitties that had recurrent litter box problems had recurrent tapeworm problems. To this day, they will miss the boxwhen they get tapes. Fortunately, they haven't hadtapes in quite a while.A tablespoon of pumpkin (canned raw pumpkin, not pie filler which has sugar and spices that you don't want) can help some cats with recurrent problems.Kefir or yougurt is another aid that occasionally works. Definitely feed fiber (pumpkin or a food with high fiber content). Of course good litter box hygiene and experiment with different litters. I like2 litter boxes to every 3 cats some groups may require more but his works well for my crew. I do let my cats outside to go to the bathroom as well. I have two females that will not use a used box. Even if the box is used only once. Multiple boxes is necessary and two cleanings daily are a necessary minimum for my bunch.IBD is actually quite rare. Missed litter boxes is more likely to be caused from other causes. A good vet workup does not hurt but don't rush into an IBD diagnosis. I know folks that spent a lot of time with that diagnosis only to have the problem instantlysolved with pumpkin.Hope some of this helps. Good luck. Been there and know the frustration but take heart, the problems can be overcome. Patricia Lamoretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Sounds like a possible case of IBD. Cats will typically go outside the box because there's discomfort ... kinda like a urinary problem. Has Yodel been tested for parasites (just starting with basics)? You may want to change the food. Try a higher protein, human grade, canned food. Stay away from the kibble and if that doesn't work ... see a vet, I guess ... Unless someone has another suggestion? You can also go onto Feline IBD sites/groups/message boardsand post there about your problem. Good Luck -- PAT JENI RECA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I know this was the best place to ask about cat questions, so here goes...I just brought a new feluk postive 6 month old cat (Yodel-lay-he-hoo, yodel for short) to our apartment, we have a feluk postive 6 month old cat (papoose) now and three dogs. Yodel seems not to like to poo in the litter box, but will poo in the bath tub and also on top of my husbands coat on the kitchen table (wow was he not happy about that, since he didnt even want the first cat)...our set up at first when we brought him home to our one bedroom apartment was, yodel in the bathroom with his own litter pan and papoose had the rest of the place with his own litter pan. Yodel pooed in the tub, the cat behavorist at the shelter thought he liked the feeling of the tub and suggested we take out some of the litter, so we did, and well that didn't help, but we didnt find poo in the tub, but we didnt see any in the litterpan and well couldnt find any presents in the bathroom. We gave him more run of the house and (that may have not been the best choice but he was meowing up a storm in the bathroom!) we thought we were going ok for a little some poo in the litter box which is located in a crate with a small opening for the cats to go in and out of, but the dogs that love to eat poo can not get to it (just our luck dogs that love to eat cat poo). The other night he pooed on my husbands coat. I am going to introduce another litter box in the crate, but we unfortunately can not place a bunch all over the place because of our dogs. Any suggestions , we are going to try different litter and hopefully try to get a litter pan that the dogs cant get into...thank you oh and papoose seems to like to beat up yodel and hold him down and then lick him furiously and then beat him up again..is that odd? (i just feel bad for the new cat, cause he is such a lover and he hates the dogs and papoose is a bully to him) Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2ยข/min or less. New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates.
Re: a little help with litter training the new cat
Also - has he had anything to deal with intestinal parasites?ย Might talk to the vet and get something for parasites - or get a stool test.ย Think our rescue uses Drontal and Flagyl before adopting out, for that sort of thing.ย ย It's not unusual for cats coming out of rescue to have that sort of thing and to poo inappropriately.Re the other dogs and cats s- give him some "chill" time along in the bathroom or wherever, so he has a chance to regroup periodically.GloriaOn Mar 25, 2006, at 10:23 PM, Patricia Lamoretti wrote:Sounds like a possible case of IBD.ย Cats will typically go outside the box because there's discomfort ... kinda like a urinary problem.ย Has Yodel been tested for parasites (just starting with basics)?ย You may want to change the food.ย Try a higher protein, human grade, canned food.ย Stay away from the kibble and if that doesn't work ... see a vet, I guess ... Unless someone has another suggestion?ย You can also go onto Feline IBD sites/groups/message boardsย and post there about your problem.ย Good Luck -- PAT JENI RECA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I know this was the best place to ask about cat questions, so here goes...I just brought a new feluk postive 6 month old cat (Yodel-lay-he-hoo, yodel for short) to our apartment, we have a feluk postive 6 month old cat (papoose) now and three dogs.ย Yodel seems not to like to poo in the litter box, but will poo in the bath tub and also on top of my husbands coat on the kitchen table (wow was he not happy about that, since he didnt even want the first cat)ย ...our set up at first when we brought him home to our one bedroom apartment was, yodel in the bathroom with his own litter pan and papoose had the rest of the place with his own litter pan.ย Yodel pooed in the tub, the cat behavorist at the shelter thought he liked the feeling of the tub and suggested we take out some of the litter, so we did, and well that didn't help, but we didnt find poo in the tub, but we didnt see any in the litterpan and well couldnt find any presents in the bathroom.ย We gave him more run of the house and (that may have not been the best choice but he was meowing up a storm in the bathroom!) we thought we were going ok for a little some poo in the litter box which is located in a crate with a small opening for the cats to go in and out of, but the dogs that love to eat poo can not get to it (just our luck dogs that love to eat cat poo).ย The other night he pooed on my husbands coat.ย I am going to introduce another litter box in the crate, but we unfortunately can not place a bunch all over the place because of our dogs.ย Any suggestions , we are going to try different litter and hopefully try to get a litter pan that the dogs cant get into...thank you oh and papoose seems to like to beat up yodel and hold him down and then lick him furiously and then beat him up again..is that odd? (i just feel bad for the new cat, cause he is such a lover and he hates the dogs and papoose is a bully to him) Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2ยข/min or less.
Re: a little help with litter training the new cat
Hi Jeni, I'm sorry Yodel is having difficulties adjusting :(. You didn't mention if Yodel's stool is normal looking, or if it is loose. I'm wondering if using the bathtub had to do with seeking privacy. He might have felt safer when in, um, such a vulnerable position, having the walls of the tub around him. Why don't you try a covered box? You could add that just about anywhere without worry about the dogs helping them to a smelly treat, (unless your dogs are small enough to go in there too!). You said you changed the type of litter you were using, but you didn't say what kind it is. I have found that my cats prefer the silty clumping litter the best. Maybe because it's softer on their paws, more like outside dirt in consistency and not as messy in between litterbox cleaning. From what you say, it sounds like Yodel may need a little more time to acclimate to your household. One technique for litterbox aversion, that is not health related, is to isolate kitty in a smaller room with one or two litterboxes readily available. So putting Yodel back into the bathroom, might help on both counts. I use a screen door on the bathroom at first to allow the new cat to adjust to their new home's sights and smells, it's hard on them to be isolated behind closed doors. After they have gotten used to everyone's presence and there is no more hissing, I'll switch to a low barrier, (my dogs respect barriers though). That way Yodel can retreat back to his safe haven just by hopping the barrier. Of course, Papoose can follow, but it will be easier for Yodel to contend with him and it will have been established that it's Yodel's territory which will give him the upper paw. One other thing, make sure there are plenty of high perches that Yodel can quickly retreat to throughout the apt. Knowing he can escape unwanted attention quickly will help him feel more secure. I'm sorry about your husband's coat, but I'm betting that Yodel is much more upset about things than he is! Nina JENI RECA wrote: Hi, I know this was the best place to ask about cat questions, so here goes...I just brought a new feluk postive 6 month old cat (Yodel-lay-he-hoo, yodel for short) to our apartment, we have a feluk postive 6 month old cat (papoose) now and three dogs. Yodel seems not to like to poo in the litter box, but will poo in the bath tub and also on top of my husbands coat on the kitchen table (wow was he not happy about that, since he didnt even want the first cat) ...our set up at first when we brought him home to our one bedroom apartment was, yodel in the bathroom with his own litter pan and papoose had the rest of the place with his own litter pan. Yodel pooed in the tub, the cat behavorist at the shelter thought he liked the feeling of the tub and suggested we take out some of the litter, so we did, and well that didn't help, but we didnt find poo in the tub, but we didnt see any in the litterpan and well couldnt find any presents in the bathroom. We gave him more run of the house and (that may have not been the best choice but he was meowing up a storm in the bathroom!) we thought we were going ok for a little some poo in the litter box which is located in a crate with a small opening for the cats to go in and out of, but the dogs that love to eat poo can not get to it (just our luck dogs that love to eat cat poo). The other night he pooed on my husbands coat. I am going to introduce another litter box in the crate, but we unfortunately can not place a bunch all over the place because of our dogs. Any suggestions , we are going to try different litter and hopefully try to get a litter pan that the dogs cant get into...thank you oh and papoose seems to like to beat up yodel and hold him down and then lick him furiously and then beat him up again..is that odd? (i just feel bad for the new cat, cause he is such a lover and he hates the dogs and papoose is a bully to him)
Re: a little help with litter training the new cat
Just ideas that I may have already posted: Try a fairly large Rubbermaid container with an unscented litter. The high sides may provide security as Nina has suggested. You could try it with and/or without the lid on it. My cats had scented litter. I strongly urge you not to use it. Arm and Hammer makes an unscented (almost) one and I think there are others. Once I found one my cats accepted I didn't change. Have Yodel's anal glands checked. They may be impacted. Use Feliway spray where he should not go and in his area in general. Try Rescue Remedy in his water. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 2:43 PM Subject: Re: a little help with litter training the new cat Hi Jeni, I'm sorry Yodel is having difficulties adjusting :(. You didn't mention if Yodel's stool is normal looking, or if it is loose. I'm wondering if using the bathtub had to do with seeking privacy. He might have felt safer when in, um, such a vulnerable position, having the walls of the tub around him. Why don't you try a covered box? You could add that just about anywhere without worry about the dogs helping them to a smelly treat, (unless your dogs are small enough to go in there too!). You said you changed the type of litter you were using, but you didn't say what kind it is. I have found that my cats prefer the silty clumping litter the best. Maybe because it's softer on their paws, more like outside dirt in consistency and not as messy in between litterbox cleaning. From what you say, it sounds like Yodel may need a little more time to acclimate to your household. One technique for litterbox aversion, that is not health related, is to isolate kitty in a smaller room with one or two litterboxes readily available. So putting Yodel back into the bathroom, might help on both counts. I use a screen door on the bathroom at first to allow the new cat to adjust to their new home's sights and smells, it's hard on them to be isolated behind closed doors. After they have gotten used to everyone's presence and there is no more hissing, I'll switch to a low barrier, (my dogs respect barriers though). That way Yodel can retreat back to his safe haven just by hopping the barrier. Of course, Papoose can follow, but it will be easier for Yodel to contend with him and it will have been established that it's Yodel's territory which will give him the upper paw. One other thing, make sure there are plenty of high perches that Yodel can quickly retreat to throughout the apt. Knowing he can escape unwanted attention quickly will help him feel more secure. I'm sorry about your husband's coat, but I'm betting that Yodel is much more upset about things than he is! Nina JENI RECA wrote: Hi, I know this was the best place to ask about cat questions, so here goes...I just brought a new feluk postive 6 month old cat (Yodel-lay-he-hoo, yodel for short) to our apartment, we have a feluk postive 6 month old cat (papoose) now and three dogs. Yodel seems not to like to poo in the litter box, but will poo in the bath tub and also on top of my husbands coat on the kitchen table (wow was he not happy about that, since he didnt even want the first cat) ...our set up at first when we brought him home to our one bedroom apartment was, yodel in the bathroom with his own litter pan and papoose had the rest of the place with his own litter pan. Yodel pooed in the tub, the cat behavorist at the shelter thought he liked the feeling of the tub and suggested we take out some of the litter, so we did, and well that didn't help, but we didnt find poo in the tub, but we didnt see any in the litterpan and well couldnt find any presents in the bathroom. We gave him more run of the house and (that may have not been the best choice but he was meowing up a storm in the bathroom!) we thought we were going ok for a little some poo in the litter box which is located in a crate with a small opening for the cats to go in and out of, but the dogs that love to eat poo can not get to it (just our luck dogs that love to eat cat poo). The other night he pooed on my husbands coat. I am going to introduce another litter box in the crate, but we unfortunately can not place a bunch all over the place because of our dogs. Any suggestions , we are going to try different litter and hopefully try to get a litter pan that the dogs cant get into...thank you oh and papoose seems to like to beat up yodel and hold him down and then lick him furiously
a little help with litter training the new cat
Hi, I know this was the best place to ask about cat questions, so here goes...I just brought a new feluk postive 6 month old cat (Yodel-lay-he-hoo, yodel for short) to our apartment, we have a feluk postive 6 month old cat (papoose) now and three dogs. Yodel seems not to like to poo in the litter box, but will poo in the bath tub and also on top of my husbands coat on the kitchen table (wow was he not happy about that, since he didnt even want the first cat)...our set up at first when we brought him home to our one bedroom apartment was, yodel in the bathroom with his own litter pan and papoose had the rest of the place with his own litter pan. Yodel pooed in the tub, the cat behavorist at the shelter thought he liked the feeling of the tub and suggested we take out some of the litter, so we did, and well that didn't help, but we didnt find poo in the tub, but we didnt see any in the litterpan and well couldnt find any presents in the bathroom. We gave him more run of the house and (that may have not been the best choice but he was meowing up a storm in the bathroom!) we thought we were going ok for a little some poo in the litter box which is located in a crate with a small opening for the cats to go in and out of, but the dogs that love to eat poo can not get to it (just our luck dogs that love to eat cat poo). The other night he pooed on my husbands coat. I am going to introduce another litter box in the crate, but we unfortunately can not place a bunch all over the place because of our dogs. Any suggestions , we are going to try different litter and hopefully try to get a litter pan that the dogs cant get into...thank you oh and papoose seems to like to beat up yodel and hold him down and then lick him furiously and then beat him up again..is that odd? (i just feel bad for the new cat, cause he is such a lover and he hates the dogs and papoose is a bully to him)
Re: a little help with litter training the new cat
Sounds like a possible case of IBD. Cats will typically go outside the box because there's discomfort ... kinda like a urinary problem. Has Yodel been tested for parasites (just starting with basics)? You may want to change the food. Try a higher protein, human grade, canned food. Stay away from the kibble and if that doesn't work ... see a vet, I guess ... Unless someone has another suggestion? You can also go onto Feline IBD sites/groups/message boardsand post there about your problem. Good Luck -- PAT JENI RECA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I know this was the best place to ask about cat questions, so here goes...I just brought a new feluk postive 6 month old cat (Yodel-lay-he-hoo, yodel for short) to our apartment, we have a feluk postive 6 month old cat (papoose) now and three dogs. Yodel seems not to like to poo in the litter box, but will poo in the bath tub and also on top of my husbands coat on the kitchen table (wow was he not happy about that, since he didnt even want the first cat)...our set up at first when we brought him home to our one bedroom apartment was, yodel in the bathroom with his own litter pan and papoose had the rest of the place with his own litter pan. Yodel pooed in the tub, the cat behavorist at the shelter thought he liked the feeling of the tub and suggested we take out some of the litter, so we did, and well that didn't help, but we didnt find poo in the tub, but we didnt see any in the litterpan and well couldnt find any presents in the bathroom. We gave him more run of the house and (that may have not been the best choice but he was meowing up a storm in the bathroom!) we thought we were going ok for a little some poo in the litter box which is located in a crate with a small opening for the cats to go in and out of, but the dogs that love to eat poo can not get to it (just our luck dogs that love to eat cat poo). The other night he pooed on my husbands coat. I am going to introduce another litter box in the crate, but we unfortunately can not place a bunch all over the place because of our dogs. Any suggestions , we are going to try different litter and hopefully try to get a litter pan that the dogs cant get into...thank you oh and papoose seems to like to beat up yodel and hold him down and then lick him furiously and then beat him up again..is that odd? (i just feel bad for the new cat, cause he is such a lover and he hates the dogs and papoose is a bully to him) Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2ยข/min or less.
Re: new cat coming--advice needed
Dear Kerry, How wonderful that you have a new family member! He's a lucky little fellow to be going to your home! I would try scent-swapping for a few days; give him a blanket and the other kitties a blanket and then trade them after a day and let them become accustomed to each other's smell. It's so hard to decide how to integrate. I generally do set up a cage at least for a couple of days; I think it helps the new kitty feel secure (I drape the cage with a blanket and raise it a little bit each day and give them a box to cuddle in) and everybody gets used to sounds and smells and then interest takes over! Sometimes a first reaction will get stuck in their wee heads and a even a good-natured cat can get off on the wrong foot, er, paw! After a few days I would open the cage door and start a play session; hopefully they'll all get involved and associate face-to-face contact with something pleasureable. Might want to have the sliced chicken breast ready, too! As far as mixing them, I think I would. It sounds like Momcat is either naturally immune or (and I know this is miserable to contemplate) a latent carrier. I wish you all the best with your new little fellow! Love, Julie"MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear friends, I need some advice! One of the NJ FeLV cats will be coming soon--possibly this Wed--to join my 2 remaining feral kitties (Mickie who's got FeLV, and Momcat who has tested neg twice). Mickey and Momcat live in my 2nd bedroom. I have 2 Qs-- 1. d'you think Ineed to introducethe new little guyslowly--I'd have to keephim in my bedroom while I'm at work, which could mean he'll be on his own for long stretches. :( (It's such a long time since I've had to introduce anyone---my brood all came as an existing colony.) Little new guy, by the way, is supposed to be people-friendly. I'm hoping it will help bring my two round. Cherie, whodoes rescue---she's the angel that took all the NJ cats--said she didn't think I needed to keeplittle new guyseparate (like in a crate, the other option I mentioned to her). But everythingI read in the past says I should introduce them s-l-o-w-l-y. 2. D'you think I should remove the negative cat, Momcat, from the room because otherwise she could contract FeLV from the new cat if it were a different strain of FeLV. (I'm very hazy on this stuff but I think I recall Sally in San Jose talking about different strains.)Momcat's never been vaccinated for FeLV. She's still scared, and I really don't want to upset her further at this point. I dream of integrating her woth my bunch one day. It will be awful trying to catch her--much worse than the kittens and they were difficult enough. All opinions much appreciated!! Thanks in advanceKerry =00 IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. "I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
new cat coming--advice needed
Title: Message Dear friends, I need some advice! One of the NJ FeLV cats will be coming soon--possibly this Wed--to join my 2 remaining feral kitties (Mickie who's got FeLV, and Momcat who has tested neg twice). Mickey and Momcat live in my 2nd bedroom. I have 2 Qs-- 1. d'you think Ineed to introducethe new little guyslowly--I'd have to keephim in my bedroom while I'm at work, which could mean he'll be on his own for long stretches. :( (It's such a long time since I've had to introduce anyone---my brood all came as an existing colony.) Little new guy, by the way, is supposed to be people-friendly. I'm hoping it will help bring my two round. Cherie, whodoes rescue---she's the angel that took all the NJ cats--said she didn't think I needed to keeplittle new guyseparate (like in a crate, the other option I mentioned to her). But everythingI read in the past says I should introduce them s-l-o-w-l-y. 2. D'you think I should remove the negative cat, Momcat, from the room because otherwise she could contract FeLV from the new cat if it were a different strain of FeLV. (I'm very hazy on this stuff but I think I recall Sally in San Jose talking about different strains.)Momcat's never been vaccinated for FeLV. She's still scared, and I really don't want to upset her further at this point. I dream of integrating her woth my bunch one day. It will be awful trying to catch her--much worse than the kittens and they were difficult enough. All opinions much appreciated!! Thanks in advanceKerry =00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: new cat coming--advice needed
I have had great success with introductions..actually I am introducing one right now.I keep the new one closed up for a day and take blanets out on the new ones room for the others to smell...then day two I leave the door open and let everyone meet (with me there of course) I do this 4 or five timesthen day three, fourI keep the door open ONLY when I am at home, there is usually a lot of hissing but that is it by day five an I keep it open at night when I can listen then by day six and seven they are pretty used to each other, so the new one may hide but often enough one of the others has taken her under their wing. GODD LUCK :-))"MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear friends, I need some advice! One of the NJ FeLV cats will be coming soon--possibly this Wed--to join my 2 remaining feral kitties (Mickie who's got FeLV, and Momcat who has tested neg twice). Mickey and Momcat live in my 2nd bedroom. I have 2 Qs-- 1. d'you think Ineed to introducethe new little guyslowly--I'd have to keephim in my bedroom while I'm at work, which could mean he'll be on his own for long stretches. :( (It's such a long time since I've had to introduce anyone---my brood all came as an existing colony.) Little new guy, by the way, is supposed to be people-friendly. I'm hoping it will help bring my two round. Cherie, whodoes rescue---she's the angel that took all the NJ cats--said she didn't think I needed to keeplittle new guyseparate (like in a crate, the other option I mentioned to her). But everythingI read in the past says I should introduce them s-l-o-w-l-y. 2. D'you think I should remove the negative cat, Momcat, from the room because otherwise she could contract FeLV from the new cat if it were a different strain of FeLV. (I'm very hazy on this stuff but I think I recall Sally in San Jose talking about different strains.)Momcat's never been vaccinated for FeLV. She's still scared, and I really don't want to upset her further at this point. I dream of integrating her woth my bunch one day. It will be awful trying to catch her--much worse than the kittens and they were difficult enough. All opinions much appreciated!! Thanks in advanceKerry =00 IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Have a purrfect day Cherie
RE: new cat coming--advice needed
Title: Message I think you got all the key points! The magic word for introduction of new cat(s) is do it verrry s-l-o-w-l-y for both ends for existing kitties and new kitties We want to make sure that both sides has a place to get away if they are not comfortable with situation so that they are not stuck there Thats said, I would first put a new kitty in a separate room, and have her get used to you and the smell of your house first - then, you might want to slowly introduce to your kitties either through screen door between the rooms , and then, put a new kitty in the crate in the rest of the rooms while you are home.. etc.. once the damage is done, its very difficult to undo (speaking of my bitter experience) --- as long as you take it slow, everything should go well Older kitties are, slower you want to take Kerry, I am sure that everything will work just fine! Hideyo From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 10:37 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: new cat coming--advice needed Dear friends, I need some advice! One of the NJ FeLV cats will be coming soon--possibly this Wed--to join my 2 remaining feral kitties (Mickie who's got FeLV, and Momcat who has tested neg twice). Mickey and Momcat live in my 2nd bedroom. I have 2 Qs-- 1. d'you think Ineed to introducethe new little guyslowly--I'd have to keephim in my bedroom while I'm at work, which could mean he'll be on his own for long stretches. :( (It's such a long time since I've had to introduce anyone---my brood all came as an existing colony.) Little new guy, by the way, is supposed to be people-friendly. I'm hoping it will help bring my two round. Cherie, whodoes rescue---she's the angel that took all the NJ cats--said she didn't think I needed to keeplittle new guyseparate (like in a crate, the other option I mentioned to her). But everythingI read in the past says I should introduce them s-l-o-w-l-y. 2. D'you think I should remove the negative cat, Momcat, from the room because otherwise she could contract FeLV from the new cat if it were a different strain of FeLV. (I'm very hazy on this stuff but I think I recall Sally in San Jose talking about different strains.)Momcat's never been vaccinated for FeLV. She's still scared, and I really don't want to upset her further at this point. I dream of integrating her woth my bunch one day. It will be awful trying to catch her--much worse than the kittens and they were difficult enough. All opinions much appreciated!! Thanks in advanceKerry =00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: new cat coming--advice needed
Title: Message Thanks Hideyo. Yes, I agree---I have 2 who never got over being introduced too soon. I keep thinking I should try to re-introduce them. I want minimize the new little guy's fearas far as possible. He's been thru a lot already. Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo YamamotoSent: Monday, September 19, 2005 1:29 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: new cat coming--advice needed I think you got all the key points! The magic word for introduction of new cat(s) is do it verrry s-l-o-w-l-y for both ends for existing kitties and new kitties We want to make sure that both sides has a place to get away if they are not comfortable with situation so that they are not stuck there Thats said, I would first put a new kitty in a separate room, and have her get used to you and the smell of your house first - then, you might want to slowly introduce to your kitties either through screen door between the rooms , and then, put a new kitty in the crate in the rest of the rooms while you are home.. etc.. once the damage is done, its very difficult to undo (speaking of my bitter experience) --- as long as you take it slow, everything should go well Older kitties are, slower you want to take Kerry, I am sure that everything will work just fine! Hideyo From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 10:37 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: new cat coming--advice needed Dear friends, I need some advice! One of the NJ FeLV cats will be coming soon--possibly this Wed--to join my 2 remaining feral kitties (Mickie who's got FeLV, and Momcat who has tested neg twice). Mickey and Momcat live in my 2nd bedroom. I have 2 Qs-- 1. d'you think Ineed to introducethe new little guyslowly--I'd have to keephim in my bedroom while I'm at work, which could mean he'll be on his own for long stretches. :( (It's such a long time since I've had to introduce anyone---my brood all came as an existing colony.) Little new guy, by the way, is supposed to be people-friendly. I'm hoping it will help bring my two round. Cherie, whodoes rescue---she's the angel that took all the NJ cats--said she didn't think I needed to keeplittle new guyseparate (like in a crate, the other option I mentioned to her). But everythingI read in the past says I should introduce them s-l-o-w-l-y. 2. D'you think I should remove the negative cat, Momcat, from the room because otherwise she could contract FeLV from the new cat if it were a different strain of FeLV. (I'm very hazy on this stuff but I think I recall Sally in San Jose talking about different strains.)Momcat's never been vaccinated for FeLV. She's still scared, and I really don't want to upset her further at this point. I dream of integrating her woth my bunch one day. It will be awful trying to catch her--much worse than the kittens and they were difficult enough. All opinions much appreciated!! Thanks in advanceKerry=00 IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. =00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the in
Re: new cat coming--advice needed
Title: Message Sounds like you got all the main points from everyone already. Terri in NJ - Original Message - From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 12:36 PM Subject: new cat coming--advice needed Dear friends, I need some advice! One of the NJ FeLV cats will be coming soon--possibly this Wed--to join my 2 remaining feral kitties (Mickie who's got FeLV, and Momcat who has tested neg twice). Mickey and Momcat live in my 2nd bedroom. I have 2 Qs-- 1. d'you think Ineed to introducethe new little guyslowly--I'd have to keephim in my bedroom while I'm at work, which could mean he'll be on his own for long stretches. :( (It's such a long time since I've had to introduce anyone---my brood all came as an existing colony.) Little new guy, by the way, is supposed to be people-friendly. I'm hoping it will help bring my two round. Cherie, whodoes rescue---she's the angel that took all the NJ cats--said she didn't think I needed to keeplittle new guyseparate (like in a crate, the other option I mentioned to her). But everythingI read in the past says I should introduce them s-l-o-w-l-y. 2. D'you think I should remove the negative cat, Momcat, from the room because otherwise she could contract FeLV from the new cat if it were a different strain of FeLV. (I'm very hazy on this stuff but I think I recall Sally in San Jose talking about different strains.)Momcat's never been vaccinated for FeLV. She's still scared, and I really don't want to upset her further at this point. I dream of integrating her woth my bunch one day. It will be awful trying to catch her--much worse than the kittens and they were difficult enough. All opinions much appreciated!! Thanks in advanceKerry =00 IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: OT: New cat litter will detect illness in cats
Although I know that clay based cat litters are not the most healthiest products in the world, they tend to be the most economical. I prefer Tidy Cats Scoop: Multiple Cats. This particular brand comes in three (3) different formulas: Immediate Odor Control (Blue Label), Long Lasting Odor Control (Red Label), and Anti-Bacteria (Green Label.) I ALWAYS purchase the 35 lbs (with 3 lbs. free) yellow buckets for a total of 38 lbs. for $9.99! Plus, I ALWAYS redeem the $1.00 dollar off any Tiny Cats product manufacturer's coupon with every purchase. Therefore, I end up paying $8.99 for a 38 lbs bucket of cat litter. Tidy Cats is economical and considered middle-grade cat litter. It is the lowest clay silica dust cat litter, scoopable, available in a variety of formulas, reasonably priced and you get more your money! Try getting that amount for that price with any other cat litter product. It won't happen and I have literally tried them ALL i.e. Fresh Step, Exquisi Cat: Scoop Premium Cat Litter Fresh Scent (a Petsmart brand), Litter Clean (a Sam's Club brand), Crystal Clear Litter Pearls (by: Harvest Ventures), Feline Pine, Arm Hammer, Carefresh (paper pet bedding), Swheat Scoop and World's Best Cat Litter, just to name a few. The only two (2) products that I feel are better than Tidy Cats is of course Swheat Scoop and World's Best IF you can afford to pay their expensive price tags. Been using Tidy Cats for twenty-six (26) years now and never once did I ever have a problem with it. I love it and my kids absolutely will NOT use anything else! Just wanted to share... __ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/
RE: New cat litter will detect illness in cats
I use Wooden Pellets that are made for stoves. I pay $4.19 for 40 lbs. I just cover the bottom of the pan. By doing this you do not have the weight of other litters. After they pee on it, it turns to silt
RE: New cat litter will detect illness in cats
I'm now buying my cat litter at the hardware store. I pick up a 40lb bag of wood stove pellets for $4.99...it doesn't mask odors quite as well has the pine pellets (Feline Pine, Pet Smart's brand), but still better than all those perfumy cat litters. I can change it more often and still save $$$. Plus, the slightly larger pellets absorb better and last longer than the Feline Pine.Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are right it is $10.00 for 21 lbs, and three of those I spend $30.00 a week in littler alone, not to mention other odor control items for my furr family. Cherie"MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Cherie pays $10 for 21 (not 2) pounds! The Costco deal sounds good. I'm pretty happy withmy Petsmart deal -- $10 for 40 lb Exquisicat litter and it's actually one of the best I've ever used, as good as Arm Hammer which costs a lot more. (I don't have wheels, and Petsmart, 5 mins walkfrom myplace, openedlast year, thank goodness.) -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NinaSent: Friday, March 04, 2005 10:59 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: New cat litter will detect illness in catsCherie,$10 for 2lbs? There goes the budget! I buy Jonny Cat at Costco ($9 for 50lbs) and add baking soda (also bought in the jumbo economy size) and Feline Pine. The Jonny Cat is cheap enough that I don't have to conserve litter when cleaning the boxes and sprinkling baking soda and Feline Pine in work on the odor control. Cherie A Gabbert wrote: Can you let me know what you think of it? I am not sure if it can be used all the time, and if it has odor control? but right now I pay $10.00 for 21lbs and I use 3 of those a week...it all adds up CherieBarbara Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there's a website for the litter http://www.scooplite.com/ 35 lbs for 14.95 and if you order two of anything,it's free shipping(click on the free shipping banner for more info). i might order it as have had problems in the past but since i put them all on vit C and E and coq10 -10, i've had no problems--knock on wood or as my husband says, knock on the kitty's head.(they all love him...go figure...) barbara - Original Message - From: tamara stickler To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:50 PM Subject: OT: New cat litter will detect illness in cats Here's something odd: Pet Ecology is to release a new cat litter that will detect urinary tract infections, diabetes and pregnancy in cats. It's called "SCOOP-lite". www.petecology.com for more info. Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web
Re: OT: New cat litter will detect illness in cats
Both the http://www.petecology.com and http://www.scooplite.com/index.shtml websites only stated that this product detects FLUTD. I did not see any information pertaining to diabetes or pregnancy. Where is the diabetes/pregnancy info located? --- tamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's something odd: Pet Ecology is to release a new cat litter that will detect urinary tract infections, diabetes and pregnancy in cats. It's called SCOOP-lite. www.petecology.com for more info. __ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/
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Can you let me know what you think of it? I am not sure if it can be used all the time, and if it has odor control? but right now I pay $10.00 for 21lbs and I use 3 of those a week...it all adds up CherieBarbara Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there's a website for the litter http://www.scooplite.com/ 35 lbs for 14.95 and if you order two of anything,it's free shipping(click on the free shipping banner for more info). i might order it as have had problems in the past but since i put them all on vit C and E and coq10 -10, i've had no problems--knock on wood or as my husband says, knock on the kitty's head.(they all love him...go figure...) barbara - Original Message - From: tamara stickler To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:50 PM Subject: OT: New cat litter will detect illness in cats Here's something odd: Pet Ecology is to release a new cat litter that will detect urinary tract infections, diabetes and pregnancy in cats. It's called "SCOOP-lite". www.petecology.com for more info. Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web
Re: New cat litter will detect illness in cats
Cherie, $10 for 2lbs? There goes the budget! I buy Jonny Cat at Costco ($9 for 50lbs) and add baking soda (also bought in the jumbo economy size) and Feline Pine. The Jonny Cat is cheap enough that I don't have to conserve litter when cleaning the boxes and sprinkling baking soda and Feline Pine in work on the odor control. Cherie A Gabbert wrote: Can you let me know what you think of it? I am not sure if it can be used all the time, and if it has odor control? but right now I pay $10.00 for 21lbs and I use 3 of those a week...it all adds up Cherie Barbara Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there's a website for the litter http://www.scooplite.com/ 35 lbs for 14.95 and if you order two of anything,it's free shipping(click on the free shipping banner for more info). i might order it as have had problems in the past but since i put them all on vit C and E and coq10 -10, i've had no problems--knock on wood or as my husband says, knock on the kitty's head.(they all love him...go figure...) barbara - Original Message - From: tamara stickler To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:50 PM Subject: OT: New cat litter will detect illness in cats Here's something odd: Pet Ecology is to release a new cat litter that will detect urinary tract infections, diabetes and pregnancy in cats. It's called "SCOOP-lite". www.petecology.com for more info. Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web
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Title: Message I think Cherie pays $10 for 21 (not 2) pounds! The Costco deal sounds good. I'm pretty happy withmy Petsmart deal -- $10 for 40 lb Exquisicat litter and it's actually one of the best I've ever used, as good as Arm Hammer which costs a lot more. (I don't have wheels, and Petsmart, 5 mins walkfrom myplace, openedlast year, thank goodness.) -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NinaSent: Friday, March 04, 2005 10:59 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: New cat litter will detect illness in catsCherie,$10 for 2lbs? There goes the budget! I buy Jonny Cat at Costco ($9 for 50lbs) and add baking soda (also bought in the jumbo economy size) and Feline Pine. The Jonny Cat is cheap enough that I don't have to conserve litter when cleaning the boxes and sprinkling baking soda and Feline Pine in work on the odor control. Cherie A Gabbert wrote: Can you let me know what you think of it? I am not sure if it can be used all the time, and if it has odor control? but right now I pay $10.00 for 21lbs and I use 3 of those a week...it all adds up CherieBarbara Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there's a website for the litter http://www.scooplite.com/ 35 lbs for 14.95 and if you order two of anything,it's free shipping(click on the free shipping banner for more info). i might order it as have had problems in the past but since i put them all on vit C and E and coq10 -10, i've had no problems--knock on wood or as my husband says, knock on the kitty's head.(they all love him...go figure...) barbara - Original Message - From: tamara stickler To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:50 PM Subject: OT: New cat litter will detect illness in cats Here's something odd: Pet Ecology is to release a new cat litter that will detect urinary tract infections, diabetes and pregnancy in cats. It's called "SCOOP-lite". www.petecology.com for more info. Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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I'm guessing that Arm and Hammer litter box deodorizer is more expensive than their regular baking soda. They've got to pay for the marketing and fancy packaging somehow, right? Try the regular baking soda and see if it works as well. I too have three cats and I don't have an odor problem. Well, at least not from the littler boxes! Nina Cherie A Gabbert wrote: Nina, Thanks I will try thatalso, with 7 cats and 3 jumbo boxes, I scoop 3 times a day and change all of them on Saturday, with daily sprinkeling of Arm and Hammer litter box deodorizer, get very expensive. I use Tidy Cat with the crystals to reduce odor. Cherie Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cherie, $10 for 2lbs? There goes the budget! I buy Jonny Cat at Costco ($9 for 50lbs) and add baking soda (also bought in the jumbo economy size) and Feline Pine. The Jonny Cat is cheap enough that I don't have to conserve litter when cleaning the boxes and sprinkling baking soda and Feline Pine in work on the odor control. Cherie A Gabbert wrote: Can you let me know what you think of it? I am not sure if it can be used all the time, and if it has odor control? but right now I pay $10.00 for 21lbs and I use 3 of those a week...it all adds up Cherie Barbara Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there's a website for the litter http://www.scooplite.com/ 35 lbs for 14.95 and if you order two of anything,it's free shipping(click on the free shipping banner for more info). i might order it as have had problems in the past but since i put them all on vit C and E and coq10 -10, i've had no problems--knock on wood or as my husband says, knock on the kitty's head.(they all love him...go figure...) barbara - Original Message - From: tamara stickler To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:50 PM Subject: OT: New cat litter will detect illness in cats Here's something odd: Pet Ecology is to release a new cat litter that will detect urinary tract infections, diabetes and pregnancy in cats. It's called "SCOOP-lite". www.petecology.com for more info. Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web
Re: New cat litter will detect illness in cats
I just read my email, I have 7 cats, not 3. Where did that come from? Nina Nina wrote: I'm guessing that Arm and Hammer litter box deodorizer is more expensive than their regular baking soda. They've got to pay for the marketing and fancy packaging somehow, right? Try the regular baking soda and see if it works as well. I too have three cats and I don't have an odor problem. Well, at least not from the littler boxes! Nina Cherie A Gabbert wrote: Nina, Thanks I will try thatalso, with 7 cats and 3 jumbo boxes, I scoop 3 times a day and change all of them on Saturday, with daily sprinkeling of Arm and Hammer litter box deodorizer, get very expensive. I use Tidy Cat with the crystals to reduce odor. Cherie Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cherie, $10 for 2lbs? There goes the budget! I buy Jonny Cat at Costco ($9 for 50lbs) and add baking soda (also bought in the jumbo economy size) and Feline Pine. The Jonny Cat is cheap enough that I don't have to conserve litter when cleaning the boxes and sprinkling baking soda and Feline Pine in work on the odor control. Cherie A Gabbert wrote: Can you let me know what you think of it? I am not sure if it can be used all the time, and if it has odor control? but right now I pay $10.00 for 21lbs and I use 3 of those a week...it all adds up Cherie Barbara Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there's a website for the litter http://www.scooplite.com/ 35 lbs for 14.95 and if you order two of anything,it's free shipping(click on the free shipping banner for more info). i might order it as have had problems in the past but since i put them all on vit C and E and coq10 -10, i've had no problems--knock on wood or as my husband says, knock on the kitty's head.(they all love him...go figure...) barbara - Original Message - From: tamara stickler To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:50 PM Subject: OT: New cat litter will detect illness in cats Here's something odd: Pet Ecology is to release a new cat litter that will detect urinary tract infections, diabetes and pregnancy in cats. It's called "SCOOP-lite". www.petecology.com for more info. Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web
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see what happens when you let your cats have keys to the front door? they let all their friends in! hee hee counting to see if any new ones have appeared in my household lately MC
RE: New cat litter will detect illness in cats
I was trying to think of a suitable quip to Nina's multiplying cats--love it, MC! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 12:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: New cat litter will detect illness in cats see what happens when you let your cats have keys to the front door? they let all their friends in! hee hee counting to see if any new ones have appeared in my household lately MC This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
