Re: [Framers] San Serif Font?

[Simon BUCH]

Hello Tammy,

"Standard" with Windows?   I find that Microsoft will make changes to 
their Windows and Office offerings as they want to, and Adobe tends to 
supply few and fewer fonts with every product release. For example, 
Microsoft recently changed the default Office font from Calibri to Aptos.


Fonts that come with Windows are not the same as fonts that are supplied 
when Microsoft Office is installed.
One good example of this is "Arial".  When some versions of Office were 
installed, Arial got a "Unicode MS" variant which had many more font 
glyphs than the original Arial. This would sometimes cause problems when 
Word documents were shared with users who didn't have the extra fonts 
installed.



I would suggest to specify a font the customer wants, regardless of what 
Microsoft specifies.
This way you/customer can choose which fonts to use, but also determine 
under which license the fonts are available.

    https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Roboto/about?query=roboto


Regards
/// Simon BUCH




On 21/03/2024 14:02, Tammy Van Boening wrote:

OK all,
I am doing a major overhaul on an existing template for a client. I very much 
like the San serif fonts of Eurostile or Roboto, but I really don’t want to 
break my cardinal rule of using proprietary fonts that have to be embedded in 
the final PDF. I really would like to be able to use a font that comes standard 
with windows, but which font, in your opinion, that comes standard with windows 
would be the closest to either of these two fonts?

My client saw a template that I was working on for another project and really 
commented that they liked the look of the Roboto font and then I showed him one 
with the EUROSTILE font and they like that one just as much. That said, I don’t 
wanna leave my client with  having to deal with fonts in their source files.
Thanks!
Tammy

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2019 and the limit of Windows 10?

[Simon BUCH]

Hello,

Since my last email on this subject, I discovered that the Adobe 
ExtendScript application is still a 32-bit application, and there are 
times when a regular file Open() function call will just error.


After a great deal of investigation, we have determined the cause of the 
crash was due to the FrameMaker console window being closed.
I have always promoted that console windows should *never* be closed as 
warnings are there for a reason!



Regards
/// Simon BUCH



On 16/02/2024 13:42, r...@rickquatro.com wrote:

Hi Simon,

FrameMaker 2019 shipped with 32- and 64-bit versions. I don't know what
version you are using, but the 64-bit version might work.

Since you are using ExtendScript, an alternative approach may be to script
saving each component to XML individually then use XSLT to combine them.

Rick

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 7:20 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker 2019 and the limit of Windows 10?

Hello Framers,

I have been investigating a problem reported by one of my customers.
They have 1 book file containing 1554 FrameMaker documents, plus 2
FrameMaker generated documents.

They have managed to publish their book file to PDF, but when they try
exporting the book to XML, FrameMaker crashes badly.

I have chopped the book up, and it appears that FrameMaker baulks after
processing around 700 files - sometimes with Internal Error, sometimes with
just hanging the app. A large number [>1400] of the FrameMaker documents
contain imported by reference graphics. Even with removing the mount point
of the graphics [so FrameMaker will show a gray box instead], and also with
setting the View > Hide Graphics option on each file,

I tried using ExtendScript to read content from each of the files, but after
approximately 710 files, I received the FrameMaker warning dialog:
Insufficient memory to display the dialog box. Close one or more windows and
try again.
i.e. Insufficient memory to display the dialog box. Close one or more
windows and try again.

According to Windows 10 [64-bit], the Task Manager indicates memory usage on
the workstation is 3.6Gb out of an available 12.1Gb.

Has anyone here experienced problems when dealing with such large book
files?


/// Simon BUCH

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2019 and the limit of Windows 10?

[Simon BUCH]

Hello Rick,

Thank you for the quick response.
I have checked, and I am using the 64-bit version of Adobe FrameMaker 2019.

My company's software uses the Frame FDK to connect with FrameMaker.

I have deliberately disabled the software "plugin" to troubleshoot the 
behaviour in structured mode FrameMaker, but as I can't even process all 
the files in the book, I suspect there is a system limit.



Regards
/// Simon



On 16/02/2024 13:42, r...@rickquatro.com wrote:

Hi Simon,

FrameMaker 2019 shipped with 32- and 64-bit versions. I don't know what
version you are using, but the 64-bit version might work.

Since you are using ExtendScript, an alternative approach may be to script
saving each component to XML individually then use XSLT to combine them.

Rick

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 7:20 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker 2019 and the limit of Windows 10?

Hello Framers,

I have been investigating a problem reported by one of my customers.
They have 1 book file containing 1554 FrameMaker documents, plus 2
FrameMaker generated documents.

They have managed to publish their book file to PDF, but when they try
exporting the book to XML, FrameMaker crashes badly.

I have chopped the book up, and it appears that FrameMaker baulks after
processing around 700 files - sometimes with Internal Error, sometimes with
just hanging the app. A large number [>1400] of the FrameMaker documents
contain imported by reference graphics. Even with removing the mount point
of the graphics [so FrameMaker will show a gray box instead], and also with
setting the View > Hide Graphics option on each file,

I tried using ExtendScript to read content from each of the files, but after
approximately 710 files, I received the FrameMaker warning dialog:
Insufficient memory to display the dialog box. Close one or more windows and
try again.
i.e. Insufficient memory to display the dialog box. Close one or more
windows and try again.

According to Windows 10 [64-bit], the Task Manager indicates memory usage on
the workstation is 3.6Gb out of an available 12.1Gb.

Has anyone here experienced problems when dealing with such large book
files?


/// Simon BUCH

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[Framers] FrameMaker 2019 and the limit of Windows 10?

[Simon BUCH]

Hello Framers,

I have been investigating a problem reported by one of my customers.
They have 1 book file containing 1554 FrameMaker documents, plus 2 
FrameMaker generated documents.


They have managed to publish their book file to PDF, but when they try 
exporting the book to XML, FrameMaker crashes badly.


I have chopped the book up, and it appears that FrameMaker baulks after 
processing around 700 files - sometimes with Internal Error, sometimes 
with just hanging the app. A large number [>1400] of the FrameMaker 
documents contain imported by reference graphics. Even with removing the 
mount point of the graphics [so FrameMaker will show a gray box 
instead], and also with setting the View > Hide Graphics option on each 
file,


I tried using ExtendScript to read content from each of the files, but 
after approximately 710 files, I received the FrameMaker warning dialog:
Insufficient memory to display the dialog box. Close one or more windows 
and try again.
i.e. Insufficient memory to display the dialog box. Close one or more 
windows and try again.


According to Windows 10 [64-bit], the Task Manager indicates memory 
usage on the workstation is 3.6Gb out of an available 12.1Gb.


Has anyone here experienced problems when dealing with such large book 
files?



/// Simon BUCH

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Re: [Framers] Single quotation mark in French

[Simon BUCH]

Hello,

MERDE!   that is crap!   [also the Framers mailing list doesn't appear 
to support 'special' characters]


So, are you using the straight single quote - AKA "apostrophe" (U+0027) 
i.e. '
or is FrameMaker using "smart quotes", which gives "curved" left/right 
single quotation marks (U+2018/U+2019) i.e. ‘ ’


What is the option set to in the FrameMaker Edit > Preference + Spelling 
> Smart Quotes section for French language?


There is an Adobe video that demonstrates this option ...
but why doesn't Adobe "document" this in text rather than having to 
watch a video?



Regards
/// Simon BUCH




On 02/02/2024 01:51, de Rouck, Tom (Zelzate) wrote:

Hello Simon,

OK my mistake, I think I should have said "omission sign", not quotation mark.
When "de" and "le/la" are before a vowel it should be l'  right, and not l ' ?
L'amour and not l 'amour.
Je viens d'Espagne and not Je viens d 'Espagne?

(hopefully Outlook is not going to auto-correct my spaces)

Best regards,

Tom De Rouck
Industries & Environment
Technical Assessment & Advisory - Senior Project Manager - Documentation 
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Re: [Framers] Single quotation mark in French

[Simon BUCH]

Bonjour tout le monde

It's not a stupid idea.  It's standard [traditional] French typography 
rules that specify that a half space is between the guillmet [simple or 
double] and the enclosed text.   Québecois French on the other hand may 
not follow the same rules.


« Vivre la différence! »

You might need to change character tags or paragraph tags to apply no 
language specification.
Alternatively, there may be a text option somewhere located in the 
Format menu ... or wherever Adobe have moved it!



Salut,
/// Simon BUCH



On 01/02/2024 13:50, acr...@shaw.ca wrote:

Wow! That's a stupid idea. Hopefully, it's a bug not a feature and will soon
be fixed.

Alison

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Sent: February 1, 2024 12:53 AM
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Subject: [Framers] Single quotation mark in French

Hi everyone,

Who at Adobe suddenly thought it was a good idea to automatically add a hard
space before a single quotation mark in French, in Framemaker 2022?
Anyone knows how to turn this off?

Merci pour l 'aide (intended)

Best regards,
Tom

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Re: [Framers] Document reflows when saving to PDF

[Simon BUCH]

Hello,

What is your default printer in Windows?   Or are you allowing Windows 
to control it for you?
If you don't have "Adobe PDF" configured as the default printer, then 
FrameMaker may get font metrics based on the printer.


Are you using Windows Remote Desktop?  [AKA Microsoft Terminal Services 
client, AKA MSTSC.exe]?

Are you sharing printers between your workstations?

But I suspect that your document may contain a paragraph format that 
still references "Type 1" [PostScript] font.
You could save your FrameMaker document as MIF, and then open the MIF in 
a good text editor like NotePad++ to locate the 'Times' font.
Alternatively, go to the FrameMaker preferences dialog Edit > 
Preferences; and UNtick the "remember missing font names" check box.  
When you reopen the document, FrameMaker will actively change any Times 
font references to Times New Roman.



/// Simon BUCH


On 24/08/2023 14:26, r...@rickquatro.com wrote:

I am saving a FrameMaker document to PDF and I get this message at the
Console:

  The "Times" Font is not available.
"Times New Roman" will be used in this session.

  It is causing the document to reflow. The font is not Times or Times New
Roman but Calibri. Querying the properties in FrameMaker and Acrobat show
that they are both Calibri 9 point. I have seen this message in the past,
but the reflow is a big problem for this project. Is there a setting that
will give me an exact FrameMaker to PDF text match?

Rick

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker crashes

[Simon BUCH]

Hello,

I have observed the same behaviour at my customer's offices since at 
least FrameMaker 14.   They have some high end HP workstations with 
heaps of RAM, very large displays [4K+], with fast graphic cards.


What happens is that the display of the FrameMaker document will become 
corrupted with textual content being displayed in the Windows’ System 
Bold font - as shown below:




Additionally, the FrameMaker menus will go blank, and attempts to access 
the menus will yield black rectangle shapes, and the mouse pointer will 
turn in to the Windows spinning blue wheel.   This leads me to think 
it's a bug with the Windows GDI bug.


I have not observed the behaviour on any of my FrameMaker installations 
on my local workstations which meet the Adobe FrameMaker system 
requirements.


If I am dealing with a large number of documents, I tend to get in to a 
habit of exiting all applications, making timed backups of working 
version files [maybe as a ZIP archive file] - often with a note 
indicating the last completed task.  Then restarting Windows.



/// Simon BUCH



On 03/10/2022 13:16, Bertrand Meyer (SIT) wrote:

I have the very latest version of FrameMaker (Windows) and it still, like
earlier versions, freezes after a few days of use, unpredictably, with a
botched-up display (see example below) and no responsiveness. I have to kill
the process with the Task Manager, get rid of *.lck files, get rid of the
*auto files (or rename them, saving the originals just in case into another
directory), restart the whole thing, check  manually that the chapters are
in the right state - all tedious for a 40-chapter book.

  


It's really bizarre that after all these years, in a product with the Adobe
label, there are still such crashes.

  


Does anyone know any way to present them from happening? I guess exiting
after a few days of use and restarting is prudent (if unpleasant in 2022),
is there a better way?

  


Thanks,

  


-- Bertrand Meyer

  




  


With best regards,

  


-- Bertrand Meyer

  


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Re: [Framers] making a table row conditional

[Simon BUCH]

Hello,


Can recent releases of FrameMaker exclude a table row from output
using conditional text? 


When I started working at Adobe [in 1997], they had bought Frame 
Technologies, and had released FrameMaker 5.5.
But due to some users finding some document parts would get corrupted 
switching conditional text, Adobe quickly released FM 5.5.6 which solved 
that problem.



/// Simon BUCH


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Re: [Framers] Save to PDF - Minutes turned into hours

[Simon BUCH]

Hello,

I have experienced this many times with my customers where documents 
fail to print, or are very slow to print.


The behaviour seems to be exacerbated by having embedded PDF in a 
FrameMaker document, or graphics that contain transparency.


I discovered this years ago, and it's actually an interaction between 
Microsoft anti-virus products and the Acrobat Distiller [Adobe PDF 
printer] process that causes it to hang while attempting to print any 
documents which contain embedded graphics with transparency areas.  
Documents that don't have transparent graphics often print without any 
problem.


The antivirus products known to experience this behaviour are:
•    Windows Defender
•    Windows Intune Endpoint Protection
•    Microsoft Security Essentials
•    Microsoft System Center Endpoint Protection
•    Microsoft Forefront Security for SharePoint
•    Microsoft Endpoint Protection
•    Microsoft Forefront Endpoint Protection

To allow FrameMaker and Acrobat Distiller to print, and if you make use 
of Microsoft anti-virus products, it is recommended to configure the 
antivirus product to exclude scanning the processes such as:

%ProgramFiles%\Adobe\Adobe FrameMaker 2019\FrameMaker.exe
%ProgramFiles(x86)%\Adobe\Acrobat 2015\Acrobat\acrodist.exe
… and also to exclude scanning the folders and files below:
%ProgramFiles(x86)%\Adobe


If your IT department don't permit you do add these exceptions, inform 
them that their choice of antivirus product prevents you from producing 
PDF using the Adobe PDF printer, and make it *their* problem!
I would also advise them that the Microsoft "Print to PDF" printer is 
*not* an option as it does not provide all the features you require to 
create your PDF.



I hope this helps resolve the problems you have experienced.

Regards
/// Simon BUCH


On 13/06/2022 18:06, cuc tu wrote:

Hi All,

One-by-one, we're all experiencing a problem saving as PDF. We're still using 
FM12. It does not matter if we're working on the network or local HDD.

We know the IT group changed virus protection from Sophos to Windows Security 
and we've disabled everything we can. I'm not sure if that is related or if 
there could have been a Windows update that has affected this version of FM. 
We've tried uninstalling and reinstalling.


Any suggestions?

Thanks, C2


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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2020 (16.0.4) does not start (same bug as in 2015)

[Simon BUCH]

Hello,

If you haven't done it already, I would advise raising this as a bug on 
the Adobe tracking system:

    https://tracker.adobe.com

Regards
/// Simon BUCH

On 04/05/2022 10:19, Yves Barbion wrote:

Hi group

FrameMaker 2020 (16.0.4) refused to start this morning: no splash screen
and no FrameMaker process running in the Task Manager. Apparently, this is
the same bug as in Frame 2015:

https://www.mail-archive.com/framers@lists.frameusers.com/msg68672.html

This problem can easily be fixed by renaming or deleting the Linguistics
folder in:

C:\Users\Your.Name\AppData\LocalLow\Adobe

Kudos to Jeff Coatsworth, who posted this fix back in 2019.

@Adobe: Could you please fix this bug?

Cheers

Yves
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Re: [Framers] FM2019 and gremlins

[Simon Buch]

Hello,

In all the years I have been using FrameMaker, I have only ever 
experienced files that couldn't be opened in the following cases:


1 - files saved on USB drives, and Windows deciding to save energy 
putting computer to sleep

2 - files saved on network locations
3 - files located on a failing drive

#1 was very irritating.  A combination of Windows 10 and HP hardware 
actually corrupted not just FrameMaker documents, but also other files - 
with no identifiable pattern to it.   As a result, I avoid using USB 
drives for everyday working.


#2 has been frustrating.  If the network drive, or the network 
connection speed is slow, I've experienced FrameMaker crashing when 
attempting to update books, or worse, when attempting to access 
referenced PDF files.


#3 was experienced by our FM trainer who thought his computer had caught 
a virus.  I diagnosed [using "CrystalDiskPortable"] the hard drive was 
in fact failing to read and write files ... occasionally!    After using 
the Linux utility ddrescue, I was able to retrieve 99.99% of his files.


If I remember correctly, FrameMaker files are always written out in 
multiples of 1024 bytes [1kb].


If I'm working on a big project, I get in to the habit of using a 
frequent backup strategy to store FM and other documents in a ZIP 
archive file with a timestamp reference.  Just in case.


I hope this helps.
/// Simon BUCH

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Re: [Framers] Appearance of graphics in the generated PDF

[Simon BUCH]

Hello Tammy,

I have seen this effect before [many years ago with FrameMaker 5.5.6!] 
where one customer wanted to insert content from Office, and so did a 
Copy, and Paste in FrameMaker.   This resulted in a "Object link 
embedded" graphic.   With a range of tests, we determined that you 
couldn't even use the "graphic" in WordPad as it suffered exactly the 
same problem that you see when printing it from FrameMaker.


Microsoft claim that they still support OLE.   If they do, then they've 
been supporting it very badly, as they seem to think it works.


The best way to get the 'graphics' from Word is to save the document as 
DOCX format, and open the DOCX from ZIP archive program such as 7-zip.   
Alternatively, do a File > Save As [or wherever Microsoft have moved the 
function], and save the file to HTML format - which should then give you 
easy access to the graphics.


HTH!


On 06/08/2021 15:29, tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote:

Thanks, but I tried this approach and the equations are not being recognized
as media/graphics objects. There is no media folder w/ the equations as
PNGs. I have no idea why they are being recognized as media objects for a
web export, but not this approach. The equations are being rasterized at a
quality that is good enough for the web, but definitely not for print. I
have a workaround that Ric helped me with , but it's a long tedious one but
at this point, I don't know if I have any other options. I will keep taking
any and all thoughts. Thanks! TVB Tammy Van Boening Tammy dot vanboening at
spectrumwritingllc dot comwww.spectrumwritingllc.com  

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Re: [Framers] Appearance of graphics in the generated PDF

[Simon BUCH]

Hello,

How are you making the PDF?
Using File > Print, and sending the print job to the Adobe PDF printer?

I would first of all check the Adobe PDF print options.   The 'standard' 
settings will often downsample monochome, gray scale, and colour 
graphics to unacceptable quality.   Then remember that with Windows 
printer drivers, you not only have to configure the "Printing 
preferences", but you also *must* configure the "Advanced" 'Printing 
Defaults', usually with the same parameters.



I suspect that Word has stored the equations as 24 bit colour, which the 
Acrobat Distiller process is then mutating.

For most purposes, 8 bit gray scale is usually sufficient.


/// Simon BUCH


On 05/08/2021 23:32, tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote:

I have an equation-laden document that I am writing. The equations are being
created in a Word doc (.docx) using Word's native equation editor. The .docx
file is then saved as an .htm/.html file and all the equations in the
document are automatically saved as .pngs in a separate folder named as
image.(n), where n is the image number.  I double-click an equation in this
folder to automatically open the equation in my image editor (SnagIT - I
don't need anything as heavy as Photoshop as I am not doing any
modifications to the equations) and save the equation without any changes to
it whatsoever with a new name. I then import the image into Framemaker by
reference.   I don't mess w/ the dpi of the image when I select it for
import - any image in the folder that was created during the saving of the
Word file shows a dpi of 96 in the Imported Graphic Scaling dialog box when
I select it for import and although this seems nutty to me (because none of
the images are over-sized). . . they look clear and crisp in the source FM
file (The Advanced Properties of any image in SnagIT is also showing a
resolution of 96 dpi);  however, upon generation of the PDF, it goes to h*ll
in a handbasket. The equation looks almost as if the font is almost bold and
therefore much darker than the text in the FM source file, and it's not
nearly as crisp and clear as in the source FM document - it actually looks
blurry/pixelated.

  


Initially, the font that was  being used in the equations is Cambria Math,
Size 14 with a default color of black without any lightening of the color.
(The font that is being used in the book is also set to a default color of
black without any lightening of the color.) I tried lightening the font
color by different percentages in the Word document and then regenerated the
equations as graphics, and that helps a bit, but overall, these graphics are
just not nearly as crisp as they need to be in the final PDF.  Any other
graphics that were taken as a capture and then imported by reference as  PNG
are as crisp as I am used to in FM.

  

  


I am just at a loss for how to get this cleared up, but it's absolutely
mandatory that I get this problem resolved because the whole focus of the
book is the equations.

  


Any thoughts are sincerely appreciated.

  


TVB

  

  

  


Tammy Van Boening

Principal/Owner

Spectrum Writing, LLC

www.spectrumwritingllc.com <http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com>

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[Framers] Adobe's web site for FrameMaker resources - why are all the links broken?

[Simon BUCH]

Hello Framers,

Do you remember the days when Adobe would allow you to download specific 
revisions of FrameMaker from the Support downloads page?   It appears 
that somebody at Adobe made changes, but failed to update URLs.



The Adobe FrameMaker downloads page:
https://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker/kb/framemaker-downloads.html
indicates "To download updates for the current or earlier versions of 
FrameMaker, visit the updates Download page." - which takes you to a 
non-functioning web server:

https://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22=Windows

The web site hosting the Adobe Support downloads page is non-functional too:
http://supportdownloads.adobe.com/product.jsp?product=22=Windows

I tried accessing these URLs from my ISP in Scotland, and also from Los 
Angeles, but nothing changed.



So I looked on the Adobe Help page that details the latest fixed issues 
in FrameMaker (2019 release):

https://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker/kb/resolved-issues-framemaker-2019.html
and the link to the FrameMaker 15.0.8 version is pointing to the defunct 
web site:

    https://supportdownloads.adobe.com/detail.jsp?ftpID=7065


If there's anybody at Adobe reading this, FIX IT!


Regards
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[Framers] Windows 10 cursors and Adobe products

[Simon BUCH]

Hello,

Windows 10 allows for mouse cursor pointers to be customised, and so I 
when I give training course, I like to use a larger mouse pointer, and 
colour it so that you can see it more easily when your video output it 
for a projector.


The larger mouse pointers work well on many applications.
Except Adobe.

* Adobe Acrobat Reader shows the large size & coloured mouse pointer at 
the expected size when viewing Help > About Adobe Acrobat Reader, or 
when accessing dialogs, such as Edit > Preferences.  But as soon as your 
mouse pointer touches the PDF document, it shrivels to the standard 
monochrome pointer at the default Windows size.


* Adobe FrameMaker 2017 appears to use some historic UI constructs.  
Click inside your document, and the mouse pointer stays large, but 
becomes badly blocky and monochrome, and looks like it's an 8 bit 
application with zero anti-aliasing, completely devoid of any colour 
concept.  The structure view is similarly affected.


Does anyone else have accessibility issues with Adobe Products?

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Re: [Framers] Rendering embedded Visio with shading/pattern fill from FM to PDF problem

[Simon Buch]

Hello,

The last time I tried using Microsoft Visio OLE objects with
FrameMaker was quite some years ago, and produced poor results while
printing.  It turns out that Microsoft Office can handle OLE objects,
but almost nothing else.

At the time, WordPad [write.exe] was the Microsoft approved
application for testing OLE, and produced very poor results -
especially in diagrams with clouds and shadows.

The solution was fairly easy - export Visio to a file format that
other applications can use, and pick the one that works best. This was
by far the easiest way so that every file could be version controlled
and managed well.

Typically, if problems are reported in FrameMaker, I like to see how
other applications handle the content - and often don't.

Regards
// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS



On Sun, 27 Dec 2020 at 22:02, Orly Zimmerman  wrote:
>
> HI All, I'm currently running FM16 - 2020 via the Adobe Technical Suite.I 
> have a number of Visio's embedded in my chapters. I've noticed that if some 
> of the Visio items use shading or pattern fills, this does not translate well 
> to PDF. (I get black or white boxes completely obliterating parts of the 
> image).Maybe I'm using the wrong PDF setting to get these to show properly 
> ?Or is it that I just can't use Visio OLE objects with shading/pattern fill 
> via FM?
>
> Also, the OLE image, viewed in the FM itself is a little off, but the PDF is 
> completely illegible.Any ideas?
>
> Thanks and Happy Holidays to all!Orly
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Re: [Framers] Anchored Frames in MIF

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The MIF reference manual has the answer on the PDF page 126 [printed page
119]
in the section "Position of anchored frames"

https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/mifreference/mifref.pdf

// Simon BUCH




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> Is there a quick and easy way to use Replace All in a MIF to change all
> anchored frames from using an Anchoring Position of "At Insertion Point" to
> "Below Current Line"?
>
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Re: [Framers] ExtendScript does not set Property ival

[Simon BUCH]

Hello,

I dabble in FrameMaker Extendscript, and I find it quite tricky to get 
right - especially when dealing with structured content.


The Find() statement has the syntax: Find(textLoc, findParams)
where textLoc is a TextLoc data type, and findParams is a PropVals data 
type.


The only times that I have played with PropVals is for file open 
operations which I find requires a fair bit of knowledge to get right.  
For example, if I want to open a file but ignore the 'missing fonts' 
errors, you need to get a property list index for the feature constant 
item, and then set the property value:

    var index, file, props, returnnp = new PropVals();
    props = GetOpenDefaultParams();
    //Ignore the "missing fonts" errors
    index = GetPropIndex(props, Constants.FS_FontNotFoundInCatalog);
    if (index > -1) props[index].propVal.ival = Constants.FV_DoOK;
    index = GetPropIndex(props, Constants.FS_FontNotFoundInDoc);
    if (index > -1) props[index].propVal.ival = Constants.FV_DoOK;
    file = Open(path, props, returnp);


So, I think you might have to find the property item, and then set the 
ival [integer value] and sval [string values] like this:

    var sProps = new PropVals(), flagCombo = 0, index ;
    index = GetPropIndex(sProps, Constants.FS_FindText)
    if (index > -1) sProp[index].propVal.sval = sSearch ;
    // don't wrap the search around to the top
    index = GetPropIndex(sProps, Constants.FS_FindWrap)
    if (index > -1) sProp[index].propVal.ival = false ;
    // set the appropriate flags
    index = GetPropIndex(sProps, Constant.FS_FindCustomizationFlags)
    if (bCase)  flagCombo |= Constants.FF_FIND_CONSIDER_CASE ;
    if (bRegEx) flagCombo |= Constants.FF_FIND_USE_REGEX;
    if (bWild)  flagCombo |= Constants.FF_FIND_USE_WILDCARDS;
    if (bWord)  flagCombo |= Constants.FF_FIND_WHOLE_WORD;
    if (bBack)  flagCombo |= Constants.FF_FIND_BACKWARDS;
    if (index > -1) sProp[index].propVal.ival = flagCombo
    // do the Find!
    Find(yourTextLoc, sProps)
    // don't forget to check the error code - just in case!


I hope this helps.

// Simon BUCH

On 07/12/2020 13:55, Klaus Daube wrote:

Dear all
My post on the FM Adobe forum
(https://community.adobe.com/t5/framemaker/find-customisation-flags-not-accepted/td-p
/11649459/) did not trigger any reaction so far:
o Either the solution is so trivial that nobody wants to blame me
o Or the problem is so nasty that nobody knows a solution to it.

Test_GetFindParameters.jsx == UTF-8 ===
   Test for the functions GetFindParameters, FindSomething
History   2020-12-07
*/ ; // ==
//#target framemaker
//@target framemaker

GetFindParameters ("\\d[st|nd|rd|th]");

function GetFindParameters (sSearch) { //==
//   Set up a text find with case sensitive RegEx
var findParms, qFlags, oPropVal1, oPropVal2, oPropVal3;

   findParms = new PropVals();
   oPropVal1 = new PropVal() ;
 oPropVal1.propIdent.num = Constants.FS_FindText;
 oPropVal1.propVal.valType = Constants.FT_String;
 oPropVal1.propVal.sval = sSearch;
   findParms.push(oPropVal1);

   oPropVal2 = new PropVal() ;
 oPropVal2.propIdent.num = Constants.FS_FindCustomizationFlags ;
 oPropVal2.propVal.valType = Constants.FT_Integer;
 qFlags = 0;
 qFlags = qFlags   | Constants.FF_FIND_CONSIDER_CASE; // 0x01
 qFlags = qFlags   | Constants.FF_FIND_USE_REGEX; // 0x10
 oPropVal2.propVal.ival = qFlags; //
   findParms.push(oPropVal2);

   oPropVal3 = new PropVal ();
 oPropVal3.propIdent.num = Constants.FS_RegexFlavour;
 oPropVal3.propVal.valType = Constants.FT_Integer;
 oPropVal3.propVal.ival = Constants.FR_USE_PERL;  // 1
 findParms.push(oPropVal3);

   $.bp(true);   // check oPropVal2 and oPropVal3
   return findParms;
} //---  end GetFindParameters ---

I do not get correct PropVals (an image doesn't make it into the forum, hence a
retype of the Data Browser here):

findParms = [object PropVal],[object PropVal],[object PropVal]
oPropVal1 = [object PropVal]
   propldent = [object Propldent]
 name =
 num = 1
   propVal = [object TypedVal]
 ival = ssval does not have a value
 sval = \d[st|nd|rd|th]
 val = obj does not have a value
 valType = 3
oPropVal2 = [object PropVal]
   propldent = [object Propldent]
 name =
 num =15
   propVal = [object TypedVal]
 ival = ssval does not have a value
 sval =
 val = obj does not have a value
 valType = 1
oPropVal3 = [object PropVal]
   propldent = [object Propldent]
 name =
 num = 17
   propVal = [object TypedVal]
 ival = ssval does not have a value
 sval =
 val = obj does not have a value
 valType = 1
qFlags = 17
sSearch = \d[st|nd|rd|th]

[Framers] Adobe licensing is migrating to subscription based

[Simon BUCH]

FYI

Despite what I was told last year:

   "/Customers will still be able to purchase perpetual licenses of all
   the above-mentioned products through Channel (Adobe authorized
   resellers) under Transactional Licensing Program (TLP) and
   Cumulative Licensing Program (CLP) even after 1 July 2019./"

... it appears that Adobe has made the decision that the purchase of 
perpetual licenses only applies to Adobe FrameMaker 15 AKA 2019 release. 
As quoted from the Adobe Territory Account Manager:


   "/FrameMaker 2019 will be available in Perpetual format.
   This mean, internet will not be required to keep the license active.
   This should be available for limited time."
   /

and /that//:/

   /"Going forward, all the FrameMaker versions will only be available
   in Subscription.//
   //That said, we still can support these licenses in an offline
   environment./"

But no further information was given.

Currently subscription costs stand at approximately US$30 / GB£30.34 / 
€UR 36 / AU$45 etc. per month.



Regards
// Simon BUCH

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Re: [Framers] Char out of range: 13

[Simon BUCH]

Font are licensed with specific software and operating systems.
Arial Unicode MS was never supplied with Microsoft Windows.

It was supplied with Microsoft Office suite applications, and I don't 
recall seeing it much after Office 2003, when Microsoft started 
distributing other fonts such as Calibri, and Consolas.



Microsoft stopped "servicing and updating" the font, but you can 
purchase updated versions from Monotype.
Microsoft also stopped supporting some older font types in their Office 
products.


Regards
// Simon BUCH


On 14/08/2020 13:34, Lin Sims wrote:

I can tell you one thing the regular Arial font doesn't have that Arial
Unicode does: glyphs for subscript numbers. This is something my company
needs because we do a lot of measurements. Luckily, the font we use for our
brand is Source Sans Pro, which does have those glyphs.


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Re: [Framers] Hallucinating Re: Script/ to sort files in a FrameMaker book file?

[Simon BUCH]

You are not hallucinating Craig, I have observed this behaviour many 
times before.


If you're using Windows Explorer to add files in to a FrameMaker book:
a. select the View > Details menu item in Windows Explorer, and click 
the "Name" column header to sort by the file names

b. use a mouse to click and select files
c. hover over the first file in the selection, then click and drag this 
range of files in to the FrameMaker book


If you're using the FrameMaker Insert > Files... menu item / "Add files 
to book" dialog:

i. select the range of files
ii. click the "Name" column header to sort by the file names in REVERSE 
sort order

iii. click Add button


NOTE: If you use FrameMaker Structured books, I have observed some 
occasions where dragging files to sort the order of the files in the 
book will cause the Structure View window to get the files in the 
structure branch completely inverted.  When this happens, additional 
book operations can cause FrameMaker to crash.





On 21/05/2020 17:12, Craig Ede wrote:

Well, I must have been hallucinating because in the copy of FM10 I happen to 
have on this computer, adding a selected group of files results in a reverse 
numerical order adding of the files no matter how you select them in the Add 
Files to Book dialog.
Ex. Files are added in this order: Test4-fm, Test3.fm, Test2.fm, Test1.fm no 
matter the order of selection.
That seems really arbitrary to me.

Craig



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[Framers] Has anyone experienced FM2019 crashes while importing EDD in books?

[Simon BUCH]

Hello,

I have had a troublesome EDD problem.  I have structured a FM book 
containing structured FM files, which have been opened and updated to 
FM15/FM2019, but the element definitions [EDD] in the book and the files 
is from the previous version FM14/FM2017.


As my FM15 EDD contains some structural changes - to table structures, I 
need to import them.
If I select all the files in the book, and import EDD from the FM14 EDD, 
all the files are updated.
If I select all the files in the book, and import EDD from the FM15 EDD, 
all the files are updated.
If I import the FM14 EDD to the book, the book EDD version updated, and 
File > Save works.


But ... if I import the FM15 EDD to the book, the book EDD version is 
updated, but File > Save crashes FrameMaker with an Internal Error dialog.


I have been able to workaround this crash by using File > Save As ; 
saving as MIF 2019 format; File > Close ; File > Open the MIF ; and 
finally File > Save as FM 2019 document format.


Rather frustratingly, if I remove the changes of one table structure of 
one of the documents, the Book can be updated and saved without error.   
But if I try changing the EDD - while still keeping the document and 
book structure valid - and try the operation again, I can either get the 
FrameMaker Internal Error dialog, or worse still, FrameMaker just being 
killed off and the process dies with no warning.



Has anyone else experienced such an effect?

// Simon BUCH

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Re: [Framers] Grammar question

[Simon BUCH]

That all depends on your "style protocol", and also the region in which 
you are located.


Some companies insist that abbreviations follow sound rules, where if 
the first letter sound is vowel, then 'an' is used.  But then they use 
it inconsistently.


For example: I would say "a LWT production". But I have seen an 
end-credit on a TV programme as "an LWT production".

Would do say: "a STV employee"? ; or "an STV employee"?
or how about: "a NUJ member"? ; or "an NUJ member"?

I go by the theory that if the unabbreviated version doesn't require 
'an', then the abbreviation should not.

But your mileage may vary.

// Simon BUCH


On 21/04/2020 16:25, Doug wrote:

MCN is an abbreviation for Multi-Channel Network.  When referring to only
one of them, which of the following do you use:

a MCN
an MCN

Thanks in advance.

Doug


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Re: [Framers] Frame Updates

[Simon BUCH]

If you log in to the Adobe Tracker System: 
https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-6739

there is a comment indicating that it is fixed in FM2020

FrameMaker 15 [AKA 2019] was released on 22 August 2019, and based upon 
release dates of prior versions, it may be up to 18 months from then, 
which would make it around March 2021.  Unless Adobe marketing want to 
strategise the release and deploy it sooner.



// Simon BUCH

On 13/04/2020 13:40, Doug wrote:

I was sent an email stating that the bug I reported, FRMAKER-6739, has been
fixed.  When can I expect to be able to download an update with this fix in
it?  Anyone know?

Thanks,

Doug

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

[Simon BUCH]

Hello everybody,

I have found that the standard Windows 10 setting for making font sizes 
larger affects not only the text, but also affects the Adobe "Glass" 
user interface - where clicking one menu heading would open the menu a 
distance away from where you had clicked.


That behaviour was exacerbated when using "Touch" user interface, and 
especially with very large displays.


// Simon BUCH


On 02/04/2020 00:37, Jerilynne Knight wrote:

Oh my Robert...I didn't start at that point, so you win the prize!

Note on the posted issue:  I've got the book window displaying properly
now. Thanks oodles & bunches to each of you who gave me ideas on things to
try! You rock socks!

What I did...


1. From the Windows font settings, I selected the recommended size
(1920x1080) and 100% font size.
2. Restarted Windows 10 and waited for updates to be applied.
3. Opened Frame 2015.
4. Selected Edit > Preferences.
5. Under Monitor Size, selected 22" (don't know that it matters).
6. Clicked OK.
7. Closed Frame 2015.
8. Opened Frame 2015.
9. Selected Edit > Preferences.
10. Under Monitor Size, selected Default.
11. Clicked OK.
12. Verified that all looked honkey dorey.
13. Closed Frame 2015.
14. Opened Frame 2015.
15. Did a butt dance from sheer joy.

Note: I one thing I neglected to do was open Frame BEFORE I applied all the
various Windows updates hooey-phooey. OOPS!



On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 7:23 PM Robert Lauriston 
wrote:


I believe the first time I used FrameMaker it was version 2.0 on a Next
cube.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 2:53 PM Peter Gold 
wrote:

Some of us are old enough to remember using Escape-key sequences with FM

3

on Unix, Mac, and Windows. Do we win anything other than being grateful
that our memories are still functioning? BOOM! ;)

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[Framers] FM 2017 and 2019 crash when opening files containing long variable strings defined with non-breaking space characters

[Simon BUCH]

Hello,

Just to let you guys know - If you make use of FrameMaker variables, 
FrameMaker can store long strings in memory, but when it comes to 
displaying the content, it will show either 1023 characters, or 
sometimes 1024.


But the real problem with using long strings is that FrameMaker will 
crash IF you have a string longer than 1024 characters AND contains a 
special characters such as non-breaking space "\ " [\x11 in MIF] AND if 
you are opening the document as the first document since launch.
If you open a New > Portrait document, and then open the bad document, 
don't attempt to open the Insert > Variables pane - FrameMaker will 
crash again!


I have logged this behaviour on the Adobe tracker portal: 
https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-7708


When will Adobe allow strings to be longer than 1024 bytes?

// Simon BUCH

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Re: [Framers] What is going on with Adobe Licensing for FrameMaker?

[Simon BUCH]

Hello,

I sent my question to Adobe Technical Communication  
who were nice enough to respond.

ATC indicated that:
    "if (and when) Adobe stops selling perpetual licenses of TECH COMM 
products like FrameMaker, RoboHelp etc. - we will always take care of 
special cases where customers need to work in an OFFLINE environment and 
need to activate their software over email/telephone (not Internet). 
Adobe customer support team would handle such cases to ensure that the 
customer is not stuck at any point of time."
ATC also indicated that they will review the training for their sales 
teams as the information was inaccurate.


The software activation requirement is actually the current situation 
with the Adobe FrameMaker where software activation *must* be performed 
directly on the internet, or indirectly via request/response codes.


From reading the available information, the license upgrades for future 
versions of FrameMaker will only be available via:

    Transactional Licensing Program (TLP)
and
    Cumulative Licensing Program (CLP)
... so if you're not on these programmes, getting newer versions of 
Adobe TC products are likely to cost you more.




Many thanks to everyone who responded.

// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS




On 22/10/2019 15:14, Simon BUCH wrote:

Hello FrameUsers,

My boss just received a telephone call from an Adobe licensing 
specialist this afternoon indicating that Adobe will be switching OFF 
perpetual licenses [both for new & renewal] WORLDWIDE for

* Adobe Technical Communication Suite
* Adobe FrameMaker
* Adobe FrameMaker Publishing Server
* Adobe RoboHelp
* Adobe RoboHelp Server


According to an "Adobe Community" posting by Amitoj SINGH [Product 
Manager, Adobe Technical Communication Tools]:
    "Customers will still be able to purchase perpetual licenses of 
all the above-mentioned products through Channel (Adobe authorized 
resellers) under Transactional Licensing Program (TLP) and Cumulative 
Licensing Program (CLP) even after 1 July 2019.
    Customers who are currently enrolled for Adobe Software Assurance 
(ASA) or Maintenance and Support (M) plans for any of the 
above-mentioned products will continue to avail of all the benefits 
for these programs till the expiry date of the current contract."



As the call centre licensing specialist gave the impression that the 
TLP and CLP programmes require the products to have access to Adobe 
servers.
This has caused a PANIC in my office as most of my customers are 
located in a number of different countries, inside tightly controlled 
corporate and/or military grade networks that have NO access to Adobe 
online services.


My customers require a stable, reliable publishing environment where 
workstation configuration is tightly controlled, safely protected from 
access of update servers.


Does this mean that Adobe is switching to requiring ALL FrameMaker and 
TCS users to have access to the internet 100% of the time?

Or was the Adobe licensing specialist inaccurate with the information?

Regards
// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS




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[Framers] What is going on with Adobe Licensing for FrameMaker?

[Simon BUCH]

Hello FrameUsers,

My boss just received a telephone call from an Adobe licensing 
specialist this afternoon indicating that Adobe will be switching OFF 
perpetual licenses [both for new & renewal] WORLDWIDE for

* Adobe Technical Communication Suite
* Adobe FrameMaker
* Adobe FrameMaker Publishing Server
* Adobe RoboHelp
* Adobe RoboHelp Server


According to an "Adobe Community" posting by Amitoj SINGH [Product 
Manager, Adobe Technical Communication Tools]:
    "Customers will still be able to purchase perpetual licenses of all 
the above-mentioned products through Channel (Adobe authorized 
resellers) under Transactional Licensing Program (TLP) and Cumulative 
Licensing Program (CLP) even after 1 July 2019.
    Customers who are currently enrolled for Adobe Software Assurance 
(ASA) or Maintenance and Support (M) plans for any of the 
above-mentioned products will continue to avail of all the benefits for 
these programs till the expiry date of the current contract."



As the call centre licensing specialist gave the impression that the TLP 
and CLP programmes require the products to have access to Adobe servers.
This has caused a PANIC in my office as most of my customers are located 
in a number of different countries, inside tightly controlled corporate 
and/or military grade networks that have NO access to Adobe online services.


My customers require a stable, reliable publishing environment where 
workstation configuration is tightly controlled, safely protected from 
access of update servers.


Does this mean that Adobe is switching to requiring ALL FrameMaker and 
TCS users to have access to the internet 100% of the time?

Or was the Adobe licensing specialist inaccurate with the information?

Regards
// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS



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[Framers] Importing large PDF documents i.e. over 1.27 metres

[Simon BUCH]

Hello,

In all the years that I have been using Adobe FrameMaker, I know it can 
handle some humongous sized documents - up to 216 inches square i.e. 
5.48 metres!


However today I found that I am unable to import a large PDF document at 
100%.  The PDF is 1.35m x 40cm, and FrameMaker keeps resizing it to be 
50% of the size.


If I try to resize it, I get the FrameMaker warning message:
    Object size is too large or too small.
    The width and height must be between 0.125 and 3600 points.

3600 points is only 50 inches == 1.27m

Has anyone encountered this limitation before?

// Simon BUCH


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Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners

[Simon BUCH]

Hello FrameUsers,

I suspect that some of the email addresses may have been sourced from 
unscrupulous web site that store data from breaches in web site security.


It should be remembered that back in October 2013, over 153 million 
Adobe accounts were breached with each containing an internal ID, 
username, email, encrypted password and a password hint in plain text. 
The password cryptography was poorly done and many were quickly resolved 
back to plain text. The unencrypted hints also disclosed much about the 
passwords adding further to the risk that hundreds of millions of Adobe 
customers already faced.   The compromised data from this event was: 
Email addresses, Password hints, Passwords, and Usernames


You might want to check your email address using the "Have I Been 
Pwned?" site:

    https://haveibeenpwned.com/

// Simon BUCH
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Re: [Framers] Confirm Security dialog pops up in Acrobat Distiller when "Save As PDF" started in FM12

[Simon BUCH]

Hello,

A quick search on the Adobe forum may provide an answer to this 
"insecurity":

    https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2612802

It looks like it's Adobe Acrobat Distiller is the cause.

Regards
// Simon BUCH

On 13/05/2019 15:26, Tom Beiswenger wrote:

Every time that I generate a book using the Save As PDF command, I get a "Confirm 
Security" dialog asking me "Are you sure that this file is from a trustworthy source and 
you want to convert it?".

Never mind that this is my own content and that I consider myself trustworthy, 
I don't think it's necessary to have to answer this question every time that I 
want to generate a book. This only recently started popping up with the save as 
PDF command starts Distiller. This is particularly annoying when the book is a 
large volume that can take several minutes just to get to the point where 
Distiller opens.

Any ideas on how to close this annoying Adobe message forever?

Running FM12 on Win10, 64-bit OS on a new laptop that I've been using for 
almost a year now. This message only started appearing about a month ago.


Tom Beiswenger
Project Manager, Manager IB Technical Documentation

Emhart Glass Inc.
74 Kahler Road North • Horseheads NY 14845 • USA
Telephone 1 607 735 2551 • Mobile +1 607 769 4779
Fax +1 607 735 2601
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www.bucheremhartglass.com
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Privacy Policy: www.bucheremhartglass.com/privacy
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[Framers] Strange corruption when using FrameMaker 14.0.3.500 [2017 release]

[Simon Buch]

Hello Framers,

In all the years I have used FrameMaker [since 3.0], I have rarely seen
FrameMaker get into the state that I am currently experiencing at my
customer site.

I took a screenshot the first time it occurred.

While editing a number of documents for extended periods - maybe over 6
hours - all the fonts in the document suddenly mutate to the Windows
"System" font, as shown in the first screenshot.
[image: FM odd.gif]

After that occurs, the FrameMaker menu goes completely blank, and any
attempt to access any of the menus - such as File > Exit yields an entirely
black menu being shown, and no menu functions available.  The only way to
quit FrameMaker is to force quit the process using Windows Task Manager.


The same behaviour happened again this morning, but instead of showing the
document content, it looks like Windows is painting part of the corrupted
display as it overlapped the book pane, and the document pane.

[image: Another odd session.gif]

The customer machines are well specified - 32Gb of system memory, running
on Windows 10.

Have any other FrameUsers experienced similar display issues?

// Simon BUCH

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[Framers] "-1" tooltip is displayed on some FrameMaker 14 [2017 release] dialogs

[Simon BUCH]

I was in the process of making some screenshots for a product release 
when I happened to find an odd behaviour in FrameMaker 14.0.3.500 [2017 
release].


If you select Edit > Preferences menu item, and mouse over the drop-down 
list UI components on the Global > General, or Global > Interface 
panels, a "-1" tooltip is displayed.


Can anyone try this on FM 15 [2019 release] ?

// Simon BUCH





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Re: [Framers] Update on printing issue with Windows 10 1803 Build

[Simon BUCH]

Adobe appears to have made a KB article about this, and supplied updates 
for the English, French, German, and Japanese versions of Adobe 
FrameMaker 2015 and 2017 from this page:

https://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker/kb/cannot-generate-pdf-after-win-10-april-update.html
There is no installer for this file - you have to extract the EXE file, 
and replace the existing FrameMaker.exe file.


According to the Adobe Tech Comms Tools Product Manager, there's a forum 
entry that indicates that the PDF output may affect PDF output as the 
Windows change affects widths of printing of characters.


As it is not listed on the Adobe Downloads support page:
https://supportdownloads.adobe.com/product.jsp?product=22=Windows
... I would hazard a guess that Adobe won't say it is really fixed yet.


// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS

P.S. I so detest Windows 10.  It makes Windows 8 look positively stable 
and well designed!



On 09/07/2018 13:15, Lin Sims wrote:

I spoke to Adobe a few days ago while getting an Acrobat registration issue
fixed, and the woman I talked to claimed that the latest patch fixed it. I
don't have the Windows 10 1803 patch installed yet, so I haven't tested to
see if this is the case. If you haven't done so recently, update FM and
Acrobat.



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Re: [Framers] Windows Anti-virus prevents PDF generation in unique graphic setup

[Simon BUCH]

Hello Carla,

I have previously experienced this some years ago, and another user in 
this forum also experienced this - around 7 March 2013.


From my investigations, it appears that any graphic with a transparency 
layer cause the Microsoft AV engine to work overtime, and fail to print 
anything.  Looking into the problem further, I discovered Microsoft have 
multiple AV products, such as:

•    Microsoft Security Essentials
•    Microsoft System Center Endpoint Protection
•    Microsoft Forefront Security for SharePoint
•    Microsoft Endpoint Protection
•    Microsoft Forefront Endpoint Protection
•    Windows Intune Endpoint Protection
•    Windows Defender

It should be noted that Windows 10 is supplied with a copy of Microsoft 
Windows Defender, and it is not possible to uninstall.
It is typically deactivated when a third party antivirus product is 
installed.


To allow FrameMaker and Acrobat Distiller to print, if you make use of 
Microsoft anti-virus products, it is recommended to configure the 
antivirus product to exclude scanning the processes such as:

    %PROGRAMFILES(x86)%\Adobe\Adobe FrameMaker 2017\FrameMaker.exe
    %PROGRAMFILES(x86)%\Adobe\Acrobat 2015\Acrobat\acrodist.exe
… and also to exclude scanning the folders and files below:
    %PROGRAMFILES(x86)%\Adobe


Regards
// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS



On 18/05/2018 23:32, Martinek, Carla wrote:

Sharing a problem that has vexed us and our translation vendor for a few days now. 
We found the solution after much trial & error, so wanted to share this here in 
case someone else runs into it. We tested on two different systems just to be sure.

Operating System
Windows 10 / Windows 7 Ultimate

Applications
FrameMaker 2017, version: 14.0.4.511
Illustrator CC 2018, version 22.1 (64 bit)
Photoshop CC 2018, version 19.1.4
Distiller DC, Professional Version 18.11.20040281318

Conditions to reproduce the problem
The FrameMaker file contains a link to an .ai file. The linked .ai file 
contains a linked .psd file. The .psd file has a clipping mask in Illustrator, 
and part of the clipped image that is not visible extends past the artboard 
edge in the .ai file.
If Microsoft Security Essentials (Windows 7) or Windows Defender (Windows 10) 
real-time protection is turned on, the PostScript file will take much longer to 
print than if real-time protection was off. Not tested using other versions of 
Windows.
In the FrameMaker book that brought this to our attention, there were 127 pages 
and 31 linked .ai files that met the criteria above to reproduce the problem. 
Printing to a Postscript file took around 14 hours to complete. Once real-time 
file protection was turned off, printing to a PostScript file took around 5 
minutes.

-Carla


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Carla Martinek
Translation Coordinator & Editor
ZEBRA TECHNOLOGIES CORPORATION

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Re: [Framers] Putting Text in a gray box? - Can it be a para tag?

[Simon BUCH]

The delights of formatting ...

You can make a gray box by making a table format, with specific ruling 
and shading properties. Then insert a table with 1 cell, 1 row.
The only down-side to this is that FrameMaker will only allow a cell to 
be 1 page long.


You may also want to specify the table design to use a specific 
paragraph format for your mono-spaced Courier font, with the Paragraph 
Designer > Advanced > Word Spacing properties set with the minimum, 
maximum, and optimum spacing = 100% ; otherwise the spacing of the font 
may look bizarre at times.



// Simon BUCH



On 10/05/2018 12:29, Rick Quatro wrote:

This is as close as you can get with FrameMaker. You can make adjustments to
eliminate the white areas and improve the spacing of the top and bottom
rules, but you can't get a border on the left and right sides of the
paragraph.

  




  

  


Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

r...@frameexpert.com

585-366-4017

  





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[Framers] in FrameMaker 2017 release, Who's zoomin' who?

[Simon BUCH]

Hello,

When preparing FrameMaker documents for a customer, in older versions of 
FrameMaker, I could select files in the book file, hit ESC z z ; or ESC 
z i ; or ESC z o ; and the zoom setting would be applied to the all the 
documents.


I'm using FM2017, aka version 14.0.3.500, the zoom settings appear to 
operate on the book itself, showing the document icons at 100%, or 
larger or smaller.


I've searched the manual and other resources to no avail, and the Adobe 
bugs base https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm ; fails with a Tomcat 
server error!


How can I get the older functionality to set the zoom setting of each 
document?


// Simon BUCH

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[Framers] Symbol Bold? Re: Framers Digest, Vol 142, Issue 17

[Simon BUCH]

I just thought I would add in my $0.02 worth to this.

I have found that some Microsoft Office products [Outlook, Word, Excel, 
etc.] make fake fonts, where weights and styles do not exist - such as 
the Symbol font.  If there is any text in Symbol, and bold effect is 
applied, Office products will tag it as "Symbol Bold", and will then 
display a bolded version of the font, even though the Symbol Bold font 
is not installed.


I suspect that there may be a paragraph tag, or character tag definition 
that tries to reference it.  To hunt down the rogue font reference, I 
would suggest saving the file as MIF format, and opening the MIF in a 
text editor to search for the definition.


// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS


On 1/29/2018 4:54 PM, Catherine Forrest wrote:
Stefan, SymbolBolded is reported as missing even though the docs have 
no bolded symbols. The Symbol character tag with no weight is applied.
SymbolBolded is not in the Fonts pod. I've searched for it with no 
luck. It's not on the body, reference, or master pages. I've even 
looked at one of the MIF files and didn't see Symbol Bolded anywhere.




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Re: [Framers] Linking to a LAN Shared Drive

[Simon BUCH]

FrameMaker uses the backslash character in dialogs for specifying 
special characters, such as \D equates to a double dagger symbol. To 
avoid this, you will need to double up the backslashes, thus:

file:///xxx.xxx.xxx\\xx\\CORP\\MANY\\DEPTDATA\\\\xxx_Reference.pdf

FrameMaker historically had multi-platform support, and so all path 
names in FrameMaker can be specified using forward slashes, for example:

    file://hostname/xx/CORP/MANY/DEPTDATA//xxx_Reference.pdf

You may want to consider NOT referencing file content, as some browsers 
- Internet Explorer and Google Chrome - can get picky, and fail to 
display content.  Additionally, spaces and 'extended' characters in path 
names can also cause trouble.



I hope this helps.
// Simon BUCH

On 06/10/2017 14:26, john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com wrote:

Hi  Guys…something odd.

In the Hypertext dialog box with command Go to URL, I enter

message URL File:///\\xxx.xxx.xxx\xx\CORP\MANY\DEPTDATA\\xxx_Reference.pdf

When I click the button, it converts to:

message URL File:///\\xxx.xxx.xxx\xx\CORP\smANY‡EPTDATA\\xxx_Reference.pdf

What’s with …CORP\smANY‡EPTDATA… and how do I prevent it from altering what I’m 
entering?


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[Framers] FrameMaker 2017, Update 1 - where is it for direct download?

[Simon BUCH]

Hello,

Has anyone had difficulty downloading FrameMaker 2017 update 1, from the 
FrameMaker downloads page?

The table does not appear to detail anything about the download.

I can't use the Adobe Update Manager due to security protocol 
restrictions at customer sites.


I tried the link on the "New Downloads" link:
http://supportdownloads.adobe.com/support/downloads/new.jsp
but the web page responds with the line:
Error in obtaining download items, please try again later.

I then decided to try the Downloads Help page:
http://supportdownloads.adobe.com/support/downloads/help.html
and tried the "Unable to connect to the Adobe FTP site" link, which gave 
the text "Sorry, this page is unavailable"



// Simon BUCH


On 01/05/2017 17:33, Stefan Gentz wrote:

since last week Update 1 for FrameMaker 2017 is available.

We have fixed a couple of bugs and implemented a lot of Feedback that we got from you. Some modal dialogs were rolled 
back to non-modal pods, working with the language drop-down in Character and Paragraph Designer is more easy now (all 
language names in English instead of their native language names), there is a completely new "Sort Table" 
dialog, the "Show Element Context" dialog is resizable now, "Command Search" works better now in 
multi-monitor scenarios, save as "View Only" is back and a lot more.

I have gathered all the changes in this blog post:
http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2017/04/framemaker-2017-update-1.html

Thanks to everyone who contributed with his/her feedback!


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Re: [Framers] Acrobat DC and ... (don't laugh)

[Simon BUCH]

Hello Lea [and FrameUsers]

Adobe FrameMaker 8, on Windows 8?
I think FM8 was only QA verified by Adobe on [32 bit] Windows 2000, XP, 
and Vista.

Which Acrobat Distiller was installed?   Was FrameMaker installed first?


Do any of the PDFs include transparency?
Does the workstation have a Microsoft "Security" suite installed?
such as ForeFront Security? Windows Defender AntiVirus?

I have seen multiple instances where the Microsoft suite of anti-virus 
products is rather aggressive and fails to allow Adobe Acrobat to 
distill any output that contains transparency areas in PDF documents.  
My solution was easy.  Add an exception to the AntiVirus suite to not 
scan any processes named AcroDist.exe.  One of my customer's IT 
departments didn't like this workaround, so I recommended that they 
change their antivirus suite.  They quickly adopted the workaround.


Regards
// Simon BUCH


On 12/01/2016 22:19, Lea Rush wrote:


Hi,

I’ve run into odd behavior since installing Acrobat DC. For various 
reasons, I have DC and Framemaker 8 that I’m trying to make work 
together. Save as PDF works fine, and blessedly has the Bookmarks I 
need. However, when I try to print to PDF, I get all the printing 
progress bars, but the PDF itself never shows up. (I have Prompt for 
Filename enabled, and I never get the prompt.)


It’s not a deal-breaker since Save As does what I need. I’m just 
curious whether I’ve done something wrong or if I’m expecting too much 
from softwares about a decade apart.


Frame 8.0 p277

Acrobat DC 2015.006.30097

Windows 8.1

8 GB RAM

Thanks,

Lea

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[Framers] Has anyone received Adobe email "Just Launched: Adobe Tech Comm Product Survey 2015!"?

[Simon BUCH]

Dear Framers,

I was looking through my mailbox, when I happened to receive an email 
entitled "Just Launched: Adobe Tech Comm Product Survey 2015!", from 
techc...@adobemailers.com at Tue, 12 Jan 2016 02:35:07 +0530. Due to the 
timezone and IP address of the email thread, I suspect this was sent 
from India.


Has anyone received the same product survey?
Was Adobe meaning to send it?

Regards
// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS

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Re: Sourcesafe

[Simon BUCH]

Making a manual archive is always a good practice - I would advise doing 
this on a twice daily basis so that the files are backed up to a server 
in a different location.


Warning: SourceSafe is a discontinued Microsoft package. Even though 
SourceSafe can handle any type of file, we experienced some corruptions 
when dealing with non-source code, such as document sets, images, etc.  
Not good!


Instead, I would recommend switching to use Apache Subversion - AKA: SVN.

// Simon BUCH


On 05/06/2015 10:13, Denis Daly wrote:


HI,

It has been recommended to me, by my Manager, that I use Sourcesafe to 
control archiving of all my Framemaker files. Sourcesafe is used by 
our Software developer to archive his files.


Currently, I manually archive on a weekly basis by copying files from 
my local C:\ drive to the company server.


Thoughts appreciated.

http://www.icpnewtech.com/



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Re: Character Format Issue

[Simon BUCH]

Hello Kristy,

I would check that there are no other EDD rules imposing particular 
formats on the selected element.


To review the element formatting, select FrameMaker menu item: 
StructureTools  Show Element Context... ; FrameMaker 11 will display 
the Show Element Context pane, against which you can select each of 
the parent elements in the Element Hierarchy, and review the Format 
Rules that are being applied.


Sadly, I find the Show Element Context dialog to be rather useless, as 
the Format Rules section of the dialog is a mere 222 pixels wide 
[regardless of the size of the pane dock] which truncates any text that 
you would normally see in full glory in the EDD file, and the mouse-over 
text of each rule is just as useless, being truncated with a suffix of 
'...'.  I hope that Adobe people will consider making the panes resizeable.


Regards
// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS, Edinburgh, Scotland.


On 30/04/2015 17:55, Kristy Nolan wrote:


Hi, fellow Framers –

I am working on cleaning up our EDD for our manuals, Frame 11. We have 
3 types of alerts (note, caution, warning) that pretty much follow the 
same rules, so are set up the same as much as possible. I have the 
caution and warning doing exactly what I need them to do with 
Autonumber Format as “Caution:” or “Warning:” and the Character Format 
as “Bold Underline.” Since I am trying to match (where possible) our 
Arbortext DTD and styles, I need the “Note:” to be just Bold.


However, the bold is not showing up. I can change it to everything 
else, including Bold DoubleUnderline or Blue, and it displays as 
prescribed. Just not plain bold. Spacing all works, nesting/indenting 
works fine. What can I be missing?


Also, if you are good at table format structuring and are willing to 
answer questions, I am having trouble with those. Right now those are 
still just done in my template through table designer with only the 
very basic set up in the EDD.





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Re: SVG import FrameMaker 11 failed

[Simon BUCH]

Goedeavond Wim,

It does appear that FrameMaker 10 and 11 create a PDF facet when 
importing the SVG.


// Simon BUCH


On 13/03/2015 13:05, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp wrote:
Som extra info: we found a logfile (empty), named svg2pdf.log after 
the svg import failed. does FM convert SVG to PDF to create a preview?



Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,

Wim Hooghwinkel




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Long change bars are created when a table is in between 2 lines

[Simon BUCH]

Greetings from a chilly Scotland,

I have a strange behaviour with change bars which is quite undesirable, 
where change bars become excessively long.  I found this with a 
structured XML document, but the same occurs with unstructured 
documents, and the behaviour occurs in FM 10, 11 and 12.


The scenario is a simple unstructured document containing the following:
x a 1
y b 2
z c 3
and a table is added to the end of each of the lines.  Select the letter 
a, and then select menu item: Format  Style  Change Bar.  The line is 
correctly marked with the change bar.  But when same action is performed 
for the letter b, the change bar is extended between the 'x a 1' line 
including the table.  Repeat the same for the letter c, and now the 
whole document has a change bar!


This is NOT useful, as the table content hasn't been changed - it's just 
the lines where the table anchor are located that have changed.
I would have expected just the line to be marked with the change bar - 
as the MIF of the document clearly has the table anchor outwith the 
'change bar' tagged text.


I can add a line-feed character, or add an extra paragraph before the 
table anchor to circumvent the long change bar effect, but my client 
does not like this.


Could this be considered a bug?




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Re: Removing custom row heights

[Simon BUCH]

Hello,

I would perform the actions on each file:
a. open the document
b. File  Save As ; specify MIF format
c. close the document
d. Using a text editor such as NotePad++ [or sed], remove every 
line that starts:

RowMinHeight
and/or:
RowMaxHeight
e. save the MIF
f. open the MIF in FrameMaker, and SaveAs FM format

There's probably an extendscript that could automate part of that task.


Regards
// Simon BUCH



On 19/06/2014 19:36, Christenson, Pat wrote:


Almost all our tables have custom row heights -- ugh! Does anyone know 
of a way to global reset the row heights to the defaults? I can't find 
anything in FrameMaker so I'm wondering if there's an add-on for it.


FrameMaker 10, Windows 7 Professional

Thanks!

Pat Christenson

Resource Coordinator

Fitzgerald Marketing and Communications

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Re: MIF reference for FM 11 and 12

[Simon BUCH]

Thanks for the notification on this.

The FM11 MIF reference guide is actually located:
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/11.0/MIFReference/mifref.pdf

Regards
// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS

On 14/03/2014 14:54, Gyanesh Talwar wrote:

Hi All,

These documents are now online.

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/mifreference/mifref.pdf  - FM 
12 MIF Reference


http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/11.0/FrameMaker/11.0/MIFReference/mifref.pdf 
 - FM 11 MIF Reference


Regards,

Gyanesh

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I am still hunting for HunSpell dictionaries in FrameMaker11...

[Simon BUCH]

Dear Framers,

I am on the hunt for learning how to integrate HunSpell dictionaries 
into FrameMaker 11, for languages such as Icelandic.


According to the FrameMaker 11 Upgrade Guide:
http://wwwimages.adobe.com/www.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/products/framemaker/pdf/FRAMEMAKER11_UPGRADE_GUIDE.PDF
Hunspell dictionary is available, as is Configurable dictionary support.
I guess these features mean that Adobe provides the dictionaries, and 
you can select whether you want to want to use the HunSpell, or the 
Proximity version dictionaries.


I took a look at the InDesign help page:
http://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/kb/add_cs_dictionaries.html
and so I created my is_IS folder in:
C:\Program Files\Common 
Files\Adobe\Linguistics\6.2\Providers\Plugins2\AdobeHunspellPlugin\Dictionaries\

and in which I copied my is_IS.aff and is_IS.dic files.
I then added the stringis_IS/string text into the Spelling Service 
section of the Info.plist file.


Is there anything I'm missing?
or ... */Does anyone know if it is possible to integrate new HunSpell 
dictionaries into FrameMaker11?/*


// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS

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Opening FM 9 via Remote Desktop crashes

[Simon BUCH]

Hello Stephen,

I would hazard a guess that Microsoft terminal services client [AKA 
Remote Desktop Connection] is sharing your printers, hard drives, usb 
drives, and the Windows clipboard buffer on your local workstation with 
your remote machine.

I have seen effects where changing printers and the Windows clipboard 
buffer can adversely affect Remote Desktop, so I would recommend running 
"mstsc.exe", selecting the "local resources" tab, and changing the 
settings to the default connection, or save the settings as a "RDP" 
connection profile.

Regards
// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS



On 23/01/2014 21:25, Stephen O'Brien wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have FM 9 (latest patch) running on Windows 7. I want to use FM via 
> Remote Desktop.
>
> If FM is already open, I have tested opening/editing/saving a FM file 
> sucessfully.
>
> If i click on the taskbar where FM is pinned to launch the 
> application, the typical FM error screen is shown after a few seconds. 
> I have FrameScript and do have a start-up file; I removed it and redid 
> the test with a similar FM crash.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
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Re: FrameMaker 12 released - activation via internet 'hack'

[Simon BUCH]

From my previous experience with Adobe's Activation via internet 
feature, you [the software purchaser] can try contacting Adobe Technical 
support tcs...@adobe.com


If you supply all your personal and purchase details [software order 
number], you will then be directed to download a 'hack' from the Adobe 
licensing portal, which after installation will prevent the software 
from calling home.



// Simon BUCH


On 15/01/2014 19:30, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:


Ah! Apparently, activation over the phone /may/ no longer be an option 
for FM 12 -- you have to have an Internet connection. Else you get to 
return your product purchase, I suppose.



This is from the FM 12 FAQ:

*I didn't know I needed to have an Internet connection when I 
purchased FrameMaker 12. Is there a way to activate without having an 
Internet connection?* http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/faq.html


No. Activation of FrameMaker 12 is required via the Internet. Each 
machine with an application installed must connect to the Internet at 
least once within 30 days of the first launch of your serialized 
product to continue using the product.


*I didn't know I needed to have an Internet connection when I 
purchased Adobe FrameMaker 12. What is the return policy?* 
http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/faq.html


For details on Adobe return policies in your region, go to 
/http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/153/tn_15327.html/.


Although, they do also say this in the FAQ about calling by an IT 
Administrator (my bolding below):


*Can I choose not to activate Adobe FrameMaker 12?* 
http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/faq.html


Activation of Adobe FrameMaker 12 is required via the Internet to 
continue use of the product. Activating your product helps protect 
your computer and your environment by ensuring that you are using a 
genuine Adobe product. Activating your product has other benefits. 
Visit the activation page [ /http://adobe.com/product/activation/ 
http://www.adobe.com/products/activation/] for more information. 
*The machine with FrameMaker 12 installed must connect to the Internet 
at least once within 30 days of the first launch of your serialized 
product or the product stops working. If you work in a company that 
has a firewall that prevents your system from connecting to the 
Internet, have your IT administrator contact Customer Service*. The 
phone numbers for Customer Service are available at 
www.adobe.com/support/contact http://www.adobe.com/support/contact.


Of course, if the IT Administrator has to open a firewall -- even if 
temporarily -- rather than just calling to get activation done, I 
suspect it will not happen at /some/ sites.


Z

*From:*Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 15, 2014 11:05 AM
*To:* 'Scott Prentice'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
*Subject:* RE: FrameMaker 12 released

Correct. The cost is charged monthly -- with an annual commitment. 
After 30 days, if you cancel, you will be billed 50% of the remaining 
contract obligation.


What I meant was that the software checks activation every 30 days ... 
presumably, without Internet access, you would have to call every month?


Z

*From:*framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott 
Prentice

*Sent:* Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:46 AM
*To:* framers@lists.frameusers.com mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
*Subject:* Re: FrameMaker 12 released

Although the subscription is labeled monthly, it's really a yearly 
subscription. As far as I know you have to pay for an entire year .. 
that's just the monthly cost if you break it down that way.


...scott

  

On 1/15/14 10:33 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net 
mailto:syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:


Calling every 30 days for the subscription model version would get
old pretty quick, though! J

Z

*From:*framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeff
Coatsworth
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 15, 2014 6:06 AM
*To:* 'Framers'
*Subject:* RE: FrameMaker 12 released

Umm, activation via Internet can be circumvented by calling Adobe
and getting an activation from them. I'm pretty sure you can
access the same help material as PDF or AIRHelp on your local
firewalled install (same as it's been for a while now).



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FrameMaker 12 released - activation via internet 'hack'

[Simon BUCH]

 From my previous experience with Adobe's "Activation via internet" 
feature, you [the software purchaser] can try contacting Adobe Technical 
support 

If you supply all your personal and purchase details [software order 
number], you will then be directed to download a 'hack' from the Adobe 
licensing portal, which after installation will prevent the software 
from calling home.


// Simon BUCH


On 15/01/2014 19:30, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote:
>
> Ah! Apparently, activation over the phone /may/ no longer be an option 
> for FM 12 -- you have to have an Internet connection. Else you get to 
> return your product purchase, I suppose.
>
>
> This is from the FM 12 FAQ:
>
> *I didn't know I needed to have an Internet connection when I 
> purchased FrameMaker 12. Is there a way to activate without having an 
> Internet connection?* <http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/faq.html>
>
> No. Activation of FrameMaker 12 is required via the Internet. Each 
> machine with an application installed must connect to the Internet at 
> least once within 30 days of the first launch of your serialized 
> product to continue using the product.
>
> *I didn't know I needed to have an Internet connection when I 
> purchased Adobe FrameMaker 12. What is the return policy?* 
> <http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/faq.html>
>
> For details on Adobe return policies in your region, go to 
> /http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/153/tn_15327.html/.
>
> Although, they do also say this in the FAQ about calling by an "IT 
> Administrator" (my bolding below):
>
> *Can I choose not to activate Adobe FrameMaker 12?* 
> <http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/faq.html>
>
> Activation of Adobe FrameMaker 12 is required via the Internet to 
> continue use of the product. Activating your product helps protect 
> your computer and your environment by ensuring that you are using a 
> genuine Adobe product. Activating your product has other benefits. 
> Visit the activation page [ /http://adobe.com/product/activation/ 
> <http://www.adobe.com/products/activation/>] for more information. 
> *The machine with FrameMaker 12 installed must connect to the Internet 
> at least once within 30 days of the first launch of your serialized 
> product or the product stops working. If you work in a company that 
> has a firewall that prevents your system from connecting to the 
> Internet, have your IT administrator contact Customer Service*. The 
> phone numbers for Customer Service are available at 
> www.adobe.com/support/contact <http://www.adobe.com/support/contact>.
>
> Of course, if the IT Administrator has to open a firewall -- even if 
> temporarily -- rather than just calling to get activation done, I 
> suspect it will not happen at /some/ sites.
>
> Z
>
> *From:*Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 15, 2014 11:05 AM
> *To:* 'Scott Prentice'; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> *Subject:* RE: FrameMaker 12 released
>
> Correct. The cost is charged monthly -- with an annual commitment. 
> After 30 days, if you cancel, you will be billed 50% of the remaining 
> contract obligation.
>
> What I meant was that the software checks activation every 30 days ... 
> presumably, without Internet access, you would have to call every month?
>
> Z
>
> *From:*framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
> <mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com> 
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott 
> Prentice
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:46 AM
> *To:* framers at lists.frameusers.com <mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> *Subject:* Re: FrameMaker 12 released
>
> Although the subscription is labeled "monthly", it's really a yearly 
> subscription. As far as I know you have to pay for an entire year .. 
> that's just the monthly cost if you break it down that way.
>
> ...scott
>
>   
>
> On 1/15/14 10:33 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net 
> <mailto:Syed.Hosain at aeris.net>) wrote:
>
> Calling every 30 days for the subscription model version would get
> old pretty quick, though! J
>
> Z
>
> *From:*framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> <mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com>
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeff
> Coatsworth
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 15, 2014 6:06 AM
> *To:* 'Framers'
> *Subject:* RE: FrameMaker 12 released
>
> Umm, activation via Internet can be circumvented by calling Adobe
> and getting an activation from them. I'm pretty sure you can
> access the same he

Re: FrameMaker 12 released

[Simon BUCH]

I've taken a quick look at this new release.

a. There's still no right-to-left language support.

b. There's still the requirement for activation via internet, and the 
help pages reference material on web pages.
This makes the product impractical for customers on military/corporate 
grade networks with no internet access.


c. In Kapil VERMA's blog entry, there's a section about Licensing options:
'Furthermore, we are providing both perpetual and subscription 
licensing options on all our products. We do realize that the licensing 
needs of our customers vary and hence, we are offering both the options 
for you. There is also special upgrade pricing available as well as 
limited time promotional price for some customers. Please refer to the 
product homepages for exact pricing information (links below).'


Really?





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[Simon BUCH]

I've taken a quick look at this new release.

a. There's still no right-to-left language support.

b. There's still the requirement for activation via internet, and the 
help pages reference material on web pages.
This makes the product impractical for customers on military/corporate 
grade networks with no internet access.

c. In Kapil VERMA's blog entry, there's a section about "Licensing options":
 'Furthermore, we are providing both perpetual and subscription 
licensing options on all our products. We do realize that the licensing 
needs of our customers vary and hence, we are offering both the options 
for you. There is also special upgrade pricing available as well as 
limited time promotional price for some customers. Please refer to the 
product homepages for exact pricing information (links below).'

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Proof reading the Adobe FrameMaker 11 'documentation'?

[Simon BUCH]

I have been making some preparations for a work project, and so I've 
been trying to gather additional information on FrameMaker 11.  So far, 
my results have been disappointing.


I want to research on the Hunspell dictionary functionality, but all I 
can find is just ONE single reference in the User Guide [and online 
Help] to a setting on the Edit  Preferences dialog.  No further 
information at all.



I then decided to read the FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file, which is 
part of the FrameMaker 11 trial software package that was downloaded at 
the end of June, but there appears to be some confusion:


* FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file - System requirements
http://www.adobe.com/go/framemaker_systemreqs
takes you to the Adobe special Error404 page.
I suspect they meant to say:
http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/systemreqs.html

* FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file - Installation Instructions
For detailed instructions on installation, visit the installation 
page: http://www.adobe.com/go/cs_install_instruct_en;


Creative Suite 6 Installation Instructions?
OK.  I thought FM11 was part of the TC suite.

* FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file - Trial software
You can convert from a trial to a full version at any time by 
either purchasing a copy of the product or signing up for a subscription


Really?  No wonder why there's been so much discussion on this list 
about the subject.

Where do I find further information on this?

* FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file Known Issues?
http://adobe.com/go/fm_known_issues_en

Adobe special Error404 page again.



So, I'm still none the wiser about Hunspell.   Oh well.

// Simon

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Proof reading the Adobe FrameMaker 11 'documentation'?

[Simon BUCH]

I have been making some preparations for a work project, and so I've 
been trying to gather additional information on FrameMaker 11.  So far, 
my results have been disappointing.

I want to research on the "Hunspell" dictionary functionality, but all I 
can find is just ONE single reference in the User Guide [and online 
Help] to a setting on the Edit > Preferences dialog.  No further 
information at all.


I then decided to read the "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file, which is 
part of the FrameMaker 11 trial software package that was downloaded at 
the end of June, but there appears to be some confusion:

* "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file - "System requirements"
 http://www.adobe.com/go/framemaker_systemreqs
takes you to the Adobe special Error404 page.
I suspect they meant to say:
 http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/systemreqs.html

* "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file - "Installation Instructions"
 "For detailed instructions on installation, visit the installation 
page: http://www.adobe.com/go/cs_install_instruct_en;

Creative Suite 6 Installation Instructions?
OK.  I thought FM11 was part of the TC suite.

* "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file - "Trial software"
 "You can convert from a trial to a full version at any time by 
either purchasing a copy of the product or signing up for a subscription"

Really?  No wonder why there's been so much discussion on this list 
about the subject.
Where do I find further information on this?

* "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file "Known Issues"?
 http://adobe.com/go/fm_known_issues_en

Adobe special Error404 page again.



So, I'm still none the wiser about Hunspell.   Oh well.

// Simon

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Re: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

[Simon BUCH]

I guess you've tried the Adobe Licensing Repair Tool:
http://www.adobe.com/support/contact/licensing.html

I've found that Adobe's licensing is irritating - my latest episode 
was while upgrading an installation of Acrobat to the latest version.


For anyone who has any Adobe products that insist on activation by 
internet only, I strongly recommend the software purchaser to contact 
Adobe Technical support tcs...@adobe.com supplying the required 
information [the software order number] so that Adobe can then provide a 
software license activation 'hack' that doesn't require the calling home 
to Adobe.



// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS



On 12/08/2013 19:31, Cheryl Dwyer wrote:

Warning, warning... RANT

Adobe's latest 'support trick' with me is to ALWAYS assume that any
application within the TS6--that my company purchased for me and that I duly
registered the serial number (along with the serial number for FrameMaker
11) within Adobe Tech Support--is, once again with each opening, STILL in
its 'trial' stage.



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Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

[Simon BUCH]

I guess you've tried the Adobe Licensing Repair Tool:
 http://www.adobe.com/support/contact/licensing.html

I've found that Adobe's licensing is irritating - my latest "episode" 
was while upgrading an installation of Acrobat to the latest version.

For anyone who has any Adobe products that insist on "activation by 
internet only", I strongly recommend the software purchaser to contact 
Adobe Technical support  supplying the required 
information [the software order number] so that Adobe can then provide a 
software license activation 'hack' that doesn't require the calling home 
to Adobe.


// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS



On 12/08/2013 19:31, Cheryl Dwyer wrote:
> Warning, warning... 
>
> Adobe's latest 'support trick' with me is to ALWAYS assume that any
> application within the TS6--that my company purchased for me and that I duly
> registered the serial number (along with the serial number for FrameMaker
> 11) within Adobe Tech Support--is, once again with each opening, STILL in
> its 'trial' stage.
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Re: Adding structured files into a book yields the wrong order in the structure

[Simon BUCH]

Dear Russ  Framers,

I tried MIF washing, and book updating, all to no avail.
I suspect it's a nasty bug, but one that only a few people will experience.

Regards
// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS



On 29/07/2013 19:22, r...@weststreetconsulting.com wrote:

Simon,

A book structure representation is typically unreliable until after a
book update. Did you try a book update after adding files?

Also, related to the previous comment, you should avoid trying to move
documents around by moving their root elements in the book structure
tree. You should use the book window, then use a book update to
automatically refresh the structure tree.

Russ





Message: 2
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:57:49 +
From: Simon BUCH simon.b...@m-ais.com
To: 'Framers'
Subject: Adding structured files into a book yields the wrong order in
  the structure
Message-ID: 51f666cd.3040...@m-ais.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed

Dear Framers,

This is a resend of my previous message - as I suspect the FrameUsers
list doesn't allow for attachments - such as graphics - to be sent.


I've been having a problem with adding FrameMaker structured documents
into a structured book, and I wonder if any of you guys have experienced

the same or similar effect.

FWIW, I'm using FrameMaker 10, running on Windows7 - both with the
latest patches installed.
The files are organised in sub-section documents, such as ENR_3_3_en.fm
being the ENR 3.3 document, and sub-sub-section documents having
additional numbering, such as: ENR_3_3_1_en.fm

If I select a range of documents in an explorer window, and drag the
documents inside the book file, I appear to be able to get the whole
structure of the document messed up.

I dragged the files to be after the ENR_3_3_en.fm document, and before
the ENR_3_4_en.fm document. The book file appears to have the documents
in the correct order ENR_3_3_en.fm, followed by ENR_3_3_1_en.fm,
ENR_3_3_2_en.fm, ENR_3_3_3_en.fm, etc. but the structure view shows that

they are located /after/ the ENR_3_5_en.fm document!

The effect of adding these documents gets even stranger when I noticed
that the ENR_3_4_en.fm, ENR_3_5_en.fm, and ENR_3_6_en.fm - which /were/
in the correct order /before /the drag-drop function, are somehow
reversed.

If I try rearranging some of the files in the structure view window, I
have seen FrameMaker crash a few times.


I managed to add the files in the correct order by:
a. move the insertion pointer in the structure view
b. select the FrameMaker Add  Files... menu item
c. In the Add Files to book dialog, with the details being shown:
  reserve the Name sort order in the Windows dialog, so it shows Z -
A ordering
d. select the second file in the reversed order [e.g. the y file]
e. shift-select the last file in the reversed order [e.g. the a file]
f. control-select the first file in the reversed order [e.g. the z
file]
... but even with this, I found that FrameMaker added the files into the

book 2 elements /after/ where I had moved the insertion pointer.


Has anyone else observed these behaviours before?


// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS
// [still working with FrameMaker after all these years]





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Adding structured files into a book yields the wrong order in the structure

[Simon BUCH]

Dear Russ & Framers,

I tried MIF washing, and book updating, all to no avail.
I suspect it's a nasty bug, but one that only a few people will experience.

Regards
// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS



On 29/07/2013 19:22, russ at weststreetconsulting.com wrote:
> Simon,
>
> A book structure representation is typically unreliable until after a
> book update. Did you try a book update after adding files?
>
> Also, related to the previous comment, you should avoid trying to move
> documents around by moving their root elements in the book structure
> tree. You should use the book window, then use a book update to
> automatically refresh the structure tree.
>
> Russ
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:57:49 +
> From: Simon BUCH 
> To: 'Framers'
> Subject: Adding structured files into a book yields the wrong order in
>   the structure
> Message-ID: <51F666CD.3040509 at m-ais.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"
>
> Dear Framers,
>
> This is a resend of my previous message - as I suspect the FrameUsers
> list doesn't allow for attachments - such as graphics - to be sent.
>
>
> I've been having a problem with adding FrameMaker structured documents
> into a structured book, and I wonder if any of you guys have experienced
>
> the same or similar effect.
>
> FWIW, I'm using FrameMaker 10, running on Windows7 - both with the
> latest patches installed.
> The files are organised in sub-section documents, such as ENR_3_3_en.fm
> being the ENR 3.3 document, and sub-sub-section documents having
> additional numbering, such as: ENR_3_3_1_en.fm
>
> If I select a range of documents in an explorer window, and drag the
> documents inside the book file, I appear to be able to get the whole
> structure of the document messed up.
>
> I dragged the files to be after the ENR_3_3_en.fm document, and before
> the ENR_3_4_en.fm document. The book file appears to have the documents
> in the correct order ENR_3_3_en.fm, followed by ENR_3_3_1_en.fm,
> ENR_3_3_2_en.fm, ENR_3_3_3_en.fm, etc. but the structure view shows that
>
> they are located /after/ the ENR_3_5_en.fm document!
>
> The effect of adding these documents gets even stranger when I noticed
> that the ENR_3_4_en.fm, ENR_3_5_en.fm, and ENR_3_6_en.fm - which /were/
> in the correct order /before /the drag-drop function, are somehow
> reversed.
>
> If I try rearranging some of the files in the structure view window, I
> have seen FrameMaker crash a few times.
>
>
> I managed to add the files in the correct order by:
> a. move the insertion pointer in the structure view
> b. select the FrameMaker Add > Files... menu item
> c. In the "Add Files to book" dialog, with the "details" being shown:
>   reserve the Name sort order in the Windows dialog, so it shows Z -
> A ordering
> d. select the second file in the reversed order [e.g. the "y" file]
> e. shift-select the last file in the reversed order [e.g. the "a" file]
> f. control-select the first file in the reversed order [e.g. the "z"
> file]
> ... but even with this, I found that FrameMaker added the files into the
>
> book 2 elements /after/ where I had moved the insertion pointer.
>
>
> Has anyone else observed these behaviours before?
>
>
> // Simon BUCH -- M-AIS
> // [still working with FrameMaker after all these years]
>
>
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Adding structured files into a book yields the wrong order in the structure

[Simon BUCH]

Dear Framers,

This is a resend of my previous message - as I suspect the FrameUsers 
list doesn't allow for attachments - such as graphics - to be sent.



I've been having a problem with adding FrameMaker structured documents 
into a structured book, and I wonder if any of you guys have experienced 
the same or similar effect.


FWIW, I'm using FrameMaker 10, running on Windows7 - both with the 
latest patches installed.
The files are organised in sub-section documents, such as ENR_3_3_en.fm 
being the ENR 3.3 document, and sub-sub-section documents having 
additional numbering, such as: ENR_3_3_1_en.fm


If I select a range of documents in an explorer window, and drag the 
documents inside the book file, I appear to be able to get the whole 
structure of the document messed up.


I dragged the files to be after the ENR_3_3_en.fm document, and before 
the ENR_3_4_en.fm document. The book file appears to have the documents 
in the correct order ENR_3_3_en.fm, followed by ENR_3_3_1_en.fm, 
ENR_3_3_2_en.fm, ENR_3_3_3_en.fm, etc. but the structure view shows that 
they are located /after/ the ENR_3_5_en.fm document!


The effect of adding these documents gets even stranger when I noticed 
that the ENR_3_4_en.fm, ENR_3_5_en.fm, and ENR_3_6_en.fm - which /were/ 
in the correct order /before /the drag-drop function, are somehow reversed.


If I try rearranging some of the files in the structure view window, I 
have seen FrameMaker crash a few times.



I managed to add the files in the correct order by:
a. move the insertion pointer in the structure view
b. select the FrameMaker Add  Files... menu item
c. In the Add Files to book dialog, with the details being shown:
 reserve the Name sort order in the Windows dialog, so it shows Z - 
A ordering

d. select the second file in the reversed order [e.g. the y file]
e. shift-select the last file in the reversed order [e.g. the a file]
f. control-select the first file in the reversed order [e.g. the z file]
... but even with this, I found that FrameMaker added the files into the 
book 2 elements /after/ where I had moved the insertion pointer.



Has anyone else observed these behaviours before?


// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS
// [still working with FrameMaker after all these years]


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Adding structured files into a book yields the wrong order in the structure

[Simon BUCH]

Dear Framers,

This is a resend of my previous message - as I suspect the FrameUsers 
list doesn't allow for attachments - such as graphics - to be sent.


I've been having a problem with adding FrameMaker structured documents 
into a structured book, and I wonder if any of you guys have experienced 
the same or similar effect.

FWIW, I'm using FrameMaker 10, running on Windows7 - both with the 
latest patches installed.
The files are organised in sub-section documents, such as ENR_3_3_en.fm 
being the ENR 3.3 document, and sub-sub-section documents having 
additional numbering, such as: ENR_3_3_1_en.fm

If I select a range of documents in an explorer window, and drag the 
documents inside the book file, I appear to be able to get the whole 
structure of the document messed up.

I dragged the files to be after the ENR_3_3_en.fm document, and before 
the ENR_3_4_en.fm document. The book file appears to have the documents 
in the correct order ENR_3_3_en.fm, followed by ENR_3_3_1_en.fm, 
ENR_3_3_2_en.fm, ENR_3_3_3_en.fm, etc. but the structure view shows that 
they are located /after/ the ENR_3_5_en.fm document!

The effect of adding these documents gets even stranger when I noticed 
that the ENR_3_4_en.fm, ENR_3_5_en.fm, and ENR_3_6_en.fm - which /were/ 
in the correct order /before /the drag-drop function, are somehow reversed.

If I try rearranging some of the files in the structure view window, I 
have seen FrameMaker crash a few times.


I managed to add the files in the correct order by:
a. move the insertion pointer in the structure view
b. select the FrameMaker Add > Files... menu item
c. In the "Add Files to book" dialog, with the "details" being shown:
  reserve the Name sort order in the Windows dialog, so it shows Z - 
A ordering
d. select the second file in the reversed order [e.g. the "y" file]
e. shift-select the last file in the reversed order [e.g. the "a" file]
f. control-select the first file in the reversed order [e.g. the "z" file]
... but even with this, I found that FrameMaker added the files into the 
book 2 elements /after/ where I had moved the insertion pointer.


Has anyone else observed these behaviours before?


// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS
// [still working with FrameMaker after all these years]


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Adding structured files into a book yields the wrong order in the structure

[Simon BUCH]

Dear Framers,

I've been having a problem with adding FrameMaker structured documents 
into a structured book, and I wonder if any of you guys have experienced 
the same or similar effect.

FWIW, I'm using FrameMaker 10, running on Windows7 - both with the 
latest patches installed.

If I select a range of documents in an explorer window, and drag the 
documents inside the book file, I appear to be able to get the whole 
structure of the document messed up.  I've attached a screenshot of the 
effect - where I dragged the files to be after the ENR_3_3_en.fm 
document, and before the ENR_3_4_en.fm document.

The book file appears to have the documents in the correct order 
ENR_3_3_en.fm, followed by ENR_3_3_1_en.fm, ENR_3_3_2_en.fm, 
ENR_3_3_3_en.fm, etc. but the structure view shows that they are located 
/after/ the ENR_3_5_en.fm document!  It gets even stranger when I 
noticed that the ENR_3_4_en.fm, ENR_3_5_en.fm, and ENR_3_6_en.fm - which 
/were/ in the correct order /before /the drag-drop function, are somehow 
reversed.

If I try rearranging some of the files in the structure view window, I 
have seen FrameMaker crash a few times.


I managed to add the files in the correct order by:
a. move the insertion pointer in the structure view
b. select the FrameMaker Add > Files... menu item
c. In the "Add Files to book" dialog, with the "details" being shown:
  reserve the Name sort order in the Windows dialog, so it shows Z - 
A ordering
d. select the second file in the reversed order [e.g. the "y" file]
e. shift-select the last file in the reversed order [e.g. the "a" file]
f. control-select the first file in the reversed order [e.g. the "z" file]
... but even with this, I found that FrameMaker added the files into the 
book 2 elements /after/ where I had moved the insertion pointer.


Has anyone else observed these behaviours before?


// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS
// [still working with FrameMaker after all these years]


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Re: Adobe vendor post DITA to PDF output webinar Fri July 12

[Simon BUCH]

Dear Maxwell,

I trust this webinar will be recorded, and made available through the 
Adobe / Company / Online Events page?

http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J


Regards
-- Simon BUCH -- M-AIS
[a former Adobe employee - 1997 to 2003 - London, Edinburgh, and Seattle]



On 10/07/2013 02:16, Maxwell Hoffmann wrote:

Friday July 12, 10AM Pacific Time:
Rich PDF output from DITA via FrameMaker

FrameMaker 11 is a complete DITA authoring and publishing solution. With 
built-in support for DITA 1.2, you can open XML files directly, edit as needed 
and save back to your DITA .xml source files. In addition, FrameMaker is 
recognized as one of the easiest and best options for DITA output to PDF. Join 
us as veteran online trainer and Adobe Certified Instructor Matt Sullivan 
presents this straightforward walk through of FrameMaker's DITA PDF publishing 
workflow. Matt will cover topics including:

== The differences between ditamap and FrameMaker binary formats
== Proper usage of FrameMaker nested books and flat file books
== Accessing the default FrameMaker DITA template files to brand your PDF output
== A discussion of FrameMaker Publishing Server for scheduling regular builds 
of your output.

At the end of this session you will be comfortable creating basic DITA files, 
as well as making changes to those files and outputting them to PDF.

You may register at: http://adobe.ly/14ZzI3E


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[Simon BUCH]

Dear Maxwell,

I trust this webinar will be recorded, and made available through the 
Adobe / Company / Online Events page?
 http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J


Regards
-- Simon BUCH -- M-AIS
[a former Adobe employee - 1997 to 2003 - London, Edinburgh, and Seattle]



On 10/07/2013 02:16, Maxwell Hoffmann wrote:
> Friday July 12, 10AM Pacific Time:
> Rich PDF output from DITA via FrameMaker
>
> FrameMaker 11 is a complete DITA authoring and publishing solution. With 
> built-in support for DITA 1.2, you can open XML files directly, edit as 
> needed and save back to your DITA .xml source files. In addition, FrameMaker 
> is recognized as one of the easiest and best options for DITA output to PDF. 
> Join us as veteran online trainer and Adobe Certified Instructor Matt 
> Sullivan presents this straightforward walk through of FrameMaker's DITA PDF 
> publishing workflow. Matt will cover topics including:
>
> == The differences between ditamap and FrameMaker binary formats
> == Proper usage of FrameMaker nested books and flat file books
> == Accessing the default FrameMaker DITA template files to brand your PDF 
> output
> == A discussion of FrameMaker Publishing Server for scheduling regular builds 
> of your output.
>
> At the end of this session you will be comfortable creating basic DITA files, 
> as well as making changes to those files and outputting them to PDF.
>
> You may register at: http://adobe.ly/14ZzI3E
>
> 
> Maxwell Hoffmann |  Product  Evangelist  |  Adobe  |  p. +01 503.336.5952  |  
> mhoffman at adobe.com
> http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann -  
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann  blogs.adobe.com/techcomm
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Re: FM11 license under parallels and bootcamp

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Hoi Wim,

Isn't it ironic that Adobe has a product that can create military 
standard documents, but have such a dreadful software activation system, 
it means that the software can't easily be used on a military or closed 
IP network. I understand the need for software licensing and activation, 
but it would have been so much easier if Adobe provided an automated 
telephone system.


Adobe force their FrameMaker users to activate their product - which 
means that you must have an active internet connection at least once 
within 30 days of the first launch of the serialized product. The 
software tries [silently] to connect to the Internet for the first seven 
days after the first launch of the product for activation.  If the 
software has not activated within the first seven days, you will receive 
a reminder for the next 23 days on every launch that the machine must 
connect to the Internet and activate the software.  As soon as the 
software detects an Internet connection, it will silently activate the 
product.


Here are some of the Adobe technical information notes about the activation:
http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/faq.html#bodycontent1-faq_5b17-55_1288829090882
http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/systemreqs.html

I read the Adobe Forum thread: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/827071
which lead me to contact Adobe Technical support via email: 
tcs...@adobe.com ; where I indicated the nature of the problem.  I then 
received a telephone call from their support operation where I repeated 
the same information, and after a while, the support agent indicated 
that Adobe *can* supply a special licensing [hack!] tool which removes 
the requirement for activation.



I recommend contacting Adobe to get them to supply this special 
licensing tool, but to action this, Adobe require you to provide the 
precise license key and software order number to be able to create the 
tool - customised for your installation, which you then need to download 
via the Adobe Software licensing portal.  It took a few days to get this 
done.


Good luck!

Regards
// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS




On 10/07/2013 08:45, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp wrote:

Hi all,

I'm using a macbook with bootcamp and Parallels. So I can either start 
up with Windows (bootcamp) or start Windows (and FM) from within the 
MacOS using Parallels. Parallels uses the bootcamp partition so the 
Windows environment is the same.


Now the issue is that when I'v been working with FM 11 under Bootcamp 
and the next time I start FM 11 under Parallels FM thinks I'm using a 
trial and I need to register my FM license. Same the other way round. 
Anyone else seeing this, is there a work around?


I don't have this with FM 10 or other licensed software.


Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,

Wim Hooghwinkel

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[Simon BUCH]

Hoi Wim,

Isn't it ironic that Adobe has a product that can create military 
standard documents, but have such a dreadful software activation system, 
it means that the software can't easily be used on a military or closed 
IP network. I understand the need for software licensing and activation, 
but it would have been so much easier if Adobe provided an automated 
telephone system.

Adobe force their FrameMaker users to activate their product - which 
means that you must have an active internet connection at least once 
within 30 days of the first launch of the serialized product. The 
software tries [silently] to connect to the Internet for the first seven 
days after the first launch of the product for activation.  If the 
software has not activated within the first seven days, you will receive 
a reminder for the next 23 days on every launch that the machine must 
connect to the Internet and activate the software.  As soon as the 
software detects an Internet connection, it will silently activate the 
product.

Here are some of the Adobe technical information notes about the activation:
http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/faq.html#bodycontent1-faq_5b17-55_1288829090882
 http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/systemreqs.html

I read the Adobe Forum thread: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/827071
which lead me to contact Adobe Technical support via email: 
tcssup at adobe.com ; where I indicated the nature of the problem.  I then 
received a telephone call from their support operation where I repeated 
the same information, and after a while, the support agent indicated 
that Adobe *can* supply a special licensing [hack!] tool which removes 
the requirement for activation.


I recommend contacting Adobe to get them to supply this special 
licensing tool, but to action this, Adobe require you to provide the 
precise license key and software order number to be able to create the 
tool - customised for your installation, which you then need to download 
via the Adobe Software licensing portal.  It took a few days to get this 
done.

Good luck!

Regards
// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS




On 10/07/2013 08:45, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm using a macbook with bootcamp and Parallels. So I can either start 
> up with Windows (bootcamp) or start Windows (and FM) from within the 
> MacOS using Parallels. Parallels uses the bootcamp partition so the 
> Windows environment is the same.
>
> Now the issue is that when I'v been working with FM 11 under Bootcamp 
> and the next time I start FM 11 under Parallels FM thinks I'm using a 
> trial and I need to register my FM license. Same the other way round. 
> Anyone else seeing this, is there a work around?
>
> I don't have this with FM 10 or other licensed software.
>
>
> Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,
>
> Wim Hooghwinkel
>
> *Information Energy 2013 -- Leading Conference on Innovation 
> in Knowledge and Information Exchange*
> IEn2013 <http://informationenergy.org/>
>
> tel. +31652036811
> Skype wimhooghwinkel
> Twitter @idtp @ien2013
> info at idtp.eu <mailto:info at idtp.eu>
> www.idtp.eu <http://www.idtp.eu>
>
> FrameMaker support: framemaker at idtp.eu
>
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A strange 'debug' message, while using FrameMaker 10

[Simon BUCH]

Does anyone on the list ever receive strange error messages from FrameMaker?

I was in the middle of importing PDF files to layout in a structured 
FrameMaker document into FrameMaker 10.0.2.419 [or more accurately, 
10.0.3.419] and I happened to receive the attached error message Debug 
assertion failed, with reference to:

F:\dd\vctools\vc7libs\ship\atlmfc\src\atl\atls\atldebugapi.cpp

I don't even have Visual C++ installed on my machine!

Can anyone enlighten me with the meaning of it?

TIA
// Simon BUCH

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[Simon BUCH]

Does anyone on the list ever receive strange error messages from FrameMaker?

I was in the middle of importing PDF files to layout in a structured 
FrameMaker document into FrameMaker 10.0.2.419 [or more accurately, 
10.0.3.419] and I happened to receive the attached error message "Debug 
assertion failed", with reference to:
 F:\dd\vctools\vc7libs\ship\atlmfc\src\atl\atls\atldebugapi.cpp

I don't even have Visual C++ installed on my machine!

Can anyone enlighten me with the meaning of it?

TIA
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Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

[Simon BUCH]

One problem that I foresee with 'Cloud' based solutions is that I have a 
number of customers who are on private/military grade networks who have 
*no* access to any services outside of their own network.  This 
configuration currently makes the FrameMaker license activation a right 
pain ...


But how will Adobe handle customer seats with no inter'net'work?

// Simon BUCH



On 09/05/2013 16:37, Steve Rickaby wrote:

I have just heard a rumor that the CS Suite is going to available in future 
only on an SaaS basis, by subscription. TCS/FrameMaker could follow?

I do wonder whether the accountants that run large corporates like Adobe 
understand how important their software is to the countless thousands of 
freelances who have to scrape every last penny to buy it - but at least then 
they own something, not vapor that goes phut as soon as you stop paying for it.

For the last two decades FrameMaker, Illustrator, Acrobat and Dreamweaver have 
been the rocks underpinning what I do. I'm far less sure about the future, 
though.



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[Simon BUCH]

One problem that I foresee with 'Cloud' based solutions is that I have a 
number of customers who are on private/military grade networks who have 
*no* access to any services outside of their own network.  This 
configuration currently makes the FrameMaker license activation a right 
pain ...

But how will Adobe handle customer seats with no inter'net'work?

// Simon BUCH



On 09/05/2013 16:37, Steve Rickaby wrote:
> I have just heard a rumor that the CS Suite is going to available in future 
> only on an SaaS basis, by subscription. TCS/FrameMaker could follow?
>
> I do wonder whether the accountants that run large corporates like Adobe 
> understand how important their software is to the countless thousands of 
> freelances who have to scrape every last penny to buy it - but at least then 
> they own something, not vapor that goes phut as soon as you stop paying for 
> it.
>
> For the last two decades FrameMaker, Illustrator, Acrobat and Dreamweaver 
> have been the rocks underpinning what I do. I'm far less sure about the 
> future, though.
>

Re: PDF Import

[Simon BUCH]

Brad,

I have found in the past that some anti-virus suites can be overzealous 
and serious affect printing.   The worst offender is Microsoft Security 
Essentials, where printing FrameMaker documents that contain referenced 
PDF files takes a significantly long time.


You might want to try adding a process exclusion to your anti-virus 
product to ignore FrameMaker.exe, and AcroDist.exe too.


When I switched the antivirus product [from MS security to AVG 
professional] on the offending machine, printing those documents was 
achievable.


YMMV.

Regards
// Simon BUCH



On 16/04/2013 11:58, Brad Anderson wrote:

I've been running several automated tasks through FrameMaker.  All image 
formats convert to PDF fairly quickly EXCEPT PDF files.  If I import pages of 
separate PDF files into a FrameMaker document, converting to PDF slows to a 
crawl.  I'm curious why this happens.

The latest try is a 200+ page document (with roughly 6 thumbnail PDF pages per 
page).  It took all weekend ( 48 hours to create a PS file).  The PostScript file failed 
to distill.  I'm curious what can speed up the process and make it less likely to fail.

Converting several hundred pages of PDF files to a different format is not a 
good option here also because of time and maintenance.


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Brad,

I have found in the past that some anti-virus suites can be overzealous 
and serious affect printing.   The worst offender is Microsoft Security 
Essentials, where printing FrameMaker documents that contain referenced 
PDF files takes a significantly long time.

You might want to try adding a process exclusion to your anti-virus 
product to ignore FrameMaker.exe, and AcroDist.exe too.

When I switched the antivirus product [from MS security to AVG 
professional] on the offending machine, printing those documents was 
achievable.

YMMV.

Regards
// Simon BUCH



On 16/04/2013 11:58, Brad Anderson wrote:
> I've been running several automated tasks through FrameMaker.  All image 
> formats convert to PDF fairly quickly EXCEPT PDF files.  If I import pages of 
> separate PDF files into a FrameMaker document, converting to PDF slows to a 
> crawl.  I'm curious why this happens.
>
> The latest try is a 200+ page document (with roughly 6 "thumbnail" PDF pages 
> per page).  It took all weekend (> 48 hours to create a PS file).  The 
> PostScript file failed to distill.  I'm curious what can speed up the process 
> and make it less likely to fail.
>
> Converting several hundred pages of PDF files to a different format is not a 
> good option here also because of time and maintenance.
>

Re: Save as PDF hangs FrameMaker 11, with PDF cover art

[Simon BUCH]

Hello Shelly,

Are you perhaps using Microsoft Security Essentials [MSE] on your 
workstation?


I have found from experience with customers that the Microsoft 
Anti-virus Solution is way too aggressive, and was causing FrameMaker 
and/or Acrobat Distiller to hand while attempting to print any graphics 
that contained transparency areas.


If your company has a different Anti-virus suite available, I recommend 
uninstalling MSE, and switching.


If you don't have that option, you will need to configure MSE to exclude 
processes FrameMaker.exe, and Acrobat.exe, and perhaps add folder 
exclusion too.


Regards
// Simon BUCH




On 06/03/2013 04:56, Shelly Schneider wrote:


I have cover art using a PDF file. The cover bleeds on all edges. I 
have been using this from at least Frame 7 up through Frame 10, with 
no issues. My company purchased FrameMaker 11 and Acrobat Pro 11 for a 
new 64 bit computer.  Frame hangs when I try to Save as PDF or  print 
to .ps using the Adobe PDF printer, both with the latest updates.  A 
one-page frame file with just the cover will hang. Other, smaller 
 pdfs sprinkled throughout my docs cause no problems. If I replace the 
cover art with a jpg or png file, I can make a pdf, but the quality is 
not the same.


I reported this to Adobe support, and they worked with me for a while, 
but they were unable to reproduce the problem, so that was no help. 
Has anyone else had this problem and found a solution that won't 
require me to replace the cover art in all my docs?


I finally found that I can save the cover art as eps with a preview, 
and get an excellent quality pdf using the eps art. Yay! And the 
preview prevents Frame from displaying eps files as those off-putting 
gray boxes, so I'll use that if necessary.


Thank you!!

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[Simon BUCH]

Hello Shelly,

Are you perhaps using Microsoft Security Essentials [MSE] on your 
workstation?

I have found from experience with customers that the Microsoft 
Anti-virus Solution is way too aggressive, and was causing FrameMaker 
and/or Acrobat Distiller to hand while attempting to print any graphics 
that contained transparency areas.

If your company has a different Anti-virus suite available, I recommend 
uninstalling MSE, and switching.

If you don't have that option, you will need to configure MSE to exclude 
processes FrameMaker.exe, and Acrobat.exe, and perhaps add folder 
exclusion too.

Regards
// Simon BUCH




On 06/03/2013 04:56, Shelly Schneider wrote:
>
> I have cover art using a PDF file. The cover bleeds on all edges. I 
> have been using this from at least Frame 7 up through Frame 10, with 
> no issues. My company purchased FrameMaker 11 and Acrobat Pro 11 for a 
> new 64 bit computer.  Frame hangs when I try to Save as PDF or  print 
> to .ps using the Adobe PDF printer, both with the latest updates.  A 
> one-page frame file with just the cover will hang. Other, smaller 
>  pdfs sprinkled throughout my docs cause no problems. If I replace the 
> cover art with a jpg or png file, I can make a pdf, but the quality is 
> not the same.
>
> I reported this to Adobe support, and they worked with me for a while, 
> but they were unable to reproduce the problem, so that was no help. 
> Has anyone else had this problem and found a solution that won't 
> require me to replace the cover art in all my docs?
>
> I finally found that I can save the cover art as eps with a preview, 
> and get an excellent quality pdf using the eps art. Yay! And the 
> preview prevents Frame from displaying eps files as those off-putting 
> gray boxes, so I'll use that if necessary.
>
> Thank you!!
>
> Shelly Schneider
>
>
>
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Re: OT: Corrupt .docx file

[Simon BUCH]

Hello Pat,

IF your file really is a Microsoft .DOCX format file, you should be able 
to unzip the content of the file using an unarchiver utility like 7zip 
[on Windows].   You will get a few folders, including one named 'word', 
inside of which you will find a 'document.xml' file. You might be able 
to rescue the content if you know how to modify the XML file.


I've found that sometimes Microsoft products indicate they are writing 
out as the XML based formats [docx, xslx, etc.] but don't!


Good luck!

// Simon BUCH


On 07/02/2013 00:17, Pat Christenson wrote:

Hi -

Please excuse this OT post but the people on this list are so knowledgable. I'm 
hoping someone can point me in the right direction.

I have a Word .docx file that won't open. I discovered that there's an XML- and 
equations-related bug (thanks, Microsoft!) that works like this: You open a .doc or .docx 
file,  build a lot of equations, save as .docx and close. When you try to re-open it, it 
won't open and you get a message saying there's a problem with the content.

I've done a lot of research online and tried every converter and rebuilder I 
can find but nothing opens this. The client can't afford to have me redo the 
work.

Can anyone recommend someone who can get into this and fix the XML? Preferably, 
free or cheap.

Because this is OT, you may want to reply  offlist.

Thank you SO MUCH for any help.

Pat Christenson
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OT: Corrupt .docx file

[Simon BUCH]

Hello Pat,

IF your file really is a Microsoft .DOCX format file, you should be able 
to "unzip" the content of the file using an unarchiver utility like 7zip 
[on Windows].   You will get a few folders, including one named 'word', 
inside of which you will find a 'document.xml' file. You might be able 
to rescue the content if you know how to modify the XML file.

I've found that sometimes Microsoft products indicate they are writing 
out as the XML based formats [docx, xslx, etc.] but don't!

Good luck!

// Simon BUCH


On 07/02/2013 00:17, Pat Christenson wrote:
> Hi -
>
> Please excuse this OT post but the people on this list are so knowledgable. 
> I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction.
>
> I have a Word .docx file that won't open. I discovered that there's an XML- 
> and equations-related bug (thanks, Microsoft!) that works like this: You open 
> a .doc or .docx file,  build a lot of equations, save as .docx and close. 
> When you try to re-open it, it won't open and you get a message saying 
> "there's a problem with the content."
>
> I've done a lot of research online and tried every converter and rebuilder I 
> can find but nothing opens this. The client can't afford to have me redo the 
> work.
>
> Can anyone recommend someone who can get into this and fix the XML? 
> Preferably, free or cheap.
>
> Because this is OT, you may want to reply  offlist.
>
> Thank you SO MUCH for any help.
>
> Pat Christenson
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The Zapfdingbats Font Family is not available. (Was: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!)

[Simon BUCH]

Dear Craig,

I experienced this same issue as my company's product reads in *alot* of 
XML content, and one of the customers panics whenever they see _any_ 
FrameMaker 'console' messages.


The mapping appears to be made in an entity formats document:
C:\Program Files\Adobe\AdobeFrameMaker10\Structure\entfmts
which has a rather historic comment that FrameMaker+SGML copies 
character formats and user variables from this file while importing 
SDATA entities from SGML documents.


This isn't the first occurrence of where Adobe ships files that 
reference fonts that are no longer supplied, and probably won't be the last.


// Simon BUCH







On 18/01/2013 15:24, Craig Ede wrote:

Dov,

I didn't initiate this conversation, but I'd like to chime in.

Your points are well taken, but a problem I had with the Adobe PI substitution 
was that simple bullets were coming across as question marks in my PDFs. That 
would indicate a mapping problem that is pretty obvious.

Also, you might want to tell the Framemaker team that whenever I open a new 
DITA document in FrameMaker I get the following messages in the FrameMaker 
console:

The Zapfdingbats Font Family is not available.
   Adobe Pi Std will be used in this session.
The Zapfdingbats Regular Font is not available.
   AdobePiStd will be used in this session.

If Adobe Pi Std is not a problem, maybe they should update the DITA templates 
for the next release and remove the source of this error. That is, unless 
Zapf-Dingbats is somehow part of the DITA standard (which really can't be 
true). The fewer the error messages the more likely we are to see critical 
errors.

Thanks for all your insights.

Craig


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[Simon BUCH]

Dear Craig,

I experienced this same issue as my company's product reads in *alot* of 
XML content, and one of the customers panics whenever they see _any_ 
FrameMaker 'console' messages.

The mapping appears to be made in an entity formats document:
 "C:\Program Files\Adobe\AdobeFrameMaker10\Structure\entfmts"
which has a rather historic comment that "FrameMaker+SGML copies 
character formats and user variables from this file while importing 
SDATA entities from SGML documents".

This isn't the first occurrence of where Adobe ships files that 
reference fonts that are no longer supplied, and probably won't be the last.

// Simon BUCH







On 18/01/2013 15:24, Craig Ede wrote:
> Dov,
>
> I didn't initiate this conversation, but I'd like to chime in.
>
> Your points are well taken, but a problem I had with the Adobe PI 
> substitution was that simple bullets were coming across as question marks in 
> my PDFs. That would indicate a mapping problem that is pretty obvious.
>
> Also, you might want to tell the Framemaker team that whenever I open a new 
> DITA document in FrameMaker I get the following messages in the FrameMaker 
> console:
>
> The "Zapfdingbats" Font Family is not available.
>"Adobe Pi Std" will be used in this session.
> The "Zapfdingbats Regular" Font is not available.
>"AdobePiStd" will be used in this session.
>
> If Adobe Pi Std is not a problem, maybe they should update the DITA templates 
> for the next release and remove the source of this error. That is, unless 
> Zapf-Dingbats is somehow part of the DITA standard (which really can't be 
> true). The fewer the error messages the more likely we are to see critical 
> errors.
>
> Thanks for all your insights.
>
> Craig

Re: Table that won't sort correctly: wash-up

[Simon BUCH]

Hello,

I suspect the effect that you may be observing is Microsoft's handling 
of some multibyte characters, where they get mutated to the Unicode 
replacement character '�' U+FFFD - which appears to happen very often 
when content is imported or pasted into FrameMaker from Microsoft word.


The character is not shown in FrameMaker, but if the file is exported to 
XML or HTML, it is rendered as a question mark in a rhombus diamond 
symbol: � - as shown on the web page:

http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/fffd/index.htm
Some browsers and applications display it as a hollow box character.

If you know the exact position of one of the errant character in the 
FrameMaker document, you can select the single character by using the 
cursor keys, and press the delete key. For some document I found it was 
possible to select Select Edit  Find/Change... ; specify text to find 
as: \x0d ; and then click Change All.


Regards
// Simon BUCH




On 09/12/2012 12:52, Steve Rickaby wrote:

At 09:24 + 8/12/12, Steve Rickaby wrote:


Plain old MIF-ing fixes it.

This is interesting, as it provided a specific example of an invisible (to the 
eye) problem that MIF-washing fixes.

To recap, I had a large table whose first column contained entries of the form 
'[]', where '' was a reference marker. The text had originated in Word, 
and the table didn't sort properly when the first column was used as the sort 
key.

In the MIF, quite a lot of the first column entries were of the form:

   ParaLine
 String `['
 String `]'
# end of ParaLine

In other words, the '[]' entry consisted of two separate but adjacent 
strings. This messed up the sort. The only visible evidence of this on the 
screen was that it took one more right-cursor movement to advance from the 
start of the line to past the '[' as expected. Also, the wildcard pattern '^[' 
didn't get a match.

Clearly one of the things that FrameMaker does when parsing MIF is to spot 
adjacent strings like this and concatenate them. Useful to know. Why the text 
came out of Word like this is another question altogether. But with Word, who 
knows?



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[Simon BUCH]

Hello,

I suspect the effect that you may be observing is Microsoft's handling 
of some multibyte characters, where they get mutated to the Unicode 
replacement character '?' U+FFFD - which appears to happen very often 
when content is imported or pasted into FrameMaker from Microsoft word.

The character is not shown in FrameMaker, but if the file is exported to 
XML or HTML, it is rendered as a question mark in a rhombus diamond 
symbol: ? - as shown on the web page:
http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/fffd/index.htm
Some browsers and applications display it as a hollow box character.

If you know the exact position of one of the errant character in the 
FrameMaker document, you can select the single character by using the 
cursor keys, and press the delete key. For some document I found it was 
possible to select Select Edit > Find/Change... ; specify text to find 
as: \x0d ; and then click Change All.

Regards
// Simon BUCH




On 09/12/2012 12:52, Steve Rickaby wrote:
> At 09:24 + 8/12/12, Steve Rickaby wrote:
>
>> Plain old MIF-ing fixes it.
> This is interesting, as it provided a specific example of an invisible (to 
> the eye) problem that MIF-washing fixes.
>
> To recap, I had a large table whose first column contained entries of the 
> form '[]', where '' was a reference marker. The text had originated 
> in Word, and the table didn't sort properly when the first column was used as 
> the sort key.
>
> In the MIF, quite a lot of the first column entries were of the form:
>
>  
>  
>> # end of ParaLine
>
> In other words, the '[]' entry consisted of two separate but adjacent 
> strings. This messed up the sort. The only visible evidence of this on the 
> screen was that it took one more right-cursor movement to advance from the 
> start of the line to past the '[' as expected. Also, the wildcard pattern 
> '^[' didn't get a match.
>
> Clearly one of the things that FrameMaker does when parsing MIF is to spot 
> adjacent strings like this and concatenate them. Useful to know. Why the text 
> came out of Word like this is another question altogether. But with Word, who 
> knows?
>

Re: Changes in Dictonaries in FM 10/11 and Re: Languages and FrameMaker languages

[Simon BUCH]

Matt,

Thank you for evangelising this piece of information about HunSpell - I 
never knew that the HunSpell dictionaries are used in Google Chrome 
browser, Opera browser, Apple Mac OS X, and LibreOffice.


The only information I could locate on Adobe's web site was a reference 
in the FrameMaker 11 upgrade guide PDF, indicating that the feature is 
'available'.   The German language Wikipedia entry for Hunspell 
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunspell indicates it is in the Adobe 
FrameMaker 11 product.


As a result, Rick Quatro may be able to use the HunSpell Macedonian 
[mk_MK] 
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries#Macedonian_.28Former_Yugoslav_Republic_of_Macedonia.29 
and Serbian 
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries#Serbian_.28Serbia.2C_Republic_Srpska.29 
spelling dictionaries.


I wonder if the hyphenation packages will function with FM11?

// Simon


On 17/10/2012 16:17, Matt Sullivan wrote:
FM11 provides support for HunSpell dictionaries in addition to 
previous dictionary support


-Matt



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[Simon BUCH]

Matt,

Thank you for evangelising this piece of information about HunSpell - I 
never knew that the HunSpell dictionaries are used in Google Chrome 
browser, Opera browser, Apple Mac OS X, and LibreOffice.

The only information I could locate on Adobe's web site was a reference 
in the FrameMaker 11 upgrade guide PDF, indicating that the feature is 
'available'.   The German language Wikipedia entry for Hunspell 
 indicates it is in the Adobe 
FrameMaker 11 product.

As a result, Rick Quatro may be able to use the HunSpell Macedonian 
[mk_MK] 

 
and Serbian 

 
spelling dictionaries.

I wonder if the hyphenation packages will function with FM11?

// Simon


On 17/10/2012 16:17, Matt Sullivan wrote:
> FM11 provides support for HunSpell dictionaries in addition to 
> previous dictionary support
>
> -Matt
>

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Re: Languages and FrameMaker languages

[Simon BUCH]

Hello Rick,

Latvian is: Latviešu
Slovenian is: Slovenščina, whereas Slovenčina is Slovakian. Subtly 
different.
Hrvatski is the Serbo-Croatian language, as spoken by Croats mainly in 
Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, the Serbian province of Vojvodina and 
other neighbouring countries.


Macedonian? Do you mean the Former Yugoslave Republic of Macedonia 
[Македонија] - more commonly referred to as FYROM?


FrameMaker 10 does not have Serbian language српски, which when 
written in 'Latin' letters is: srpski.


For Serbian and Macedonian languages, I recommend setting the paragraph 
tag Language setting to be None, so that FrameMaker can ignore the spelling.


Regards
// Simon




On 15/10/2012 14:58, Rick Quatro wrote:

Hello Framers,

I am trying to find the corresponding FrameMaker Language (in the Font
properties) for each of the languages below. I am using FrameMaker 10. Any
help would be appreciated. Thank you very much.

Slovenian
Latvian
Serbian
Croatian
Macedonian



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Re: Languages and FrameMaker languages

[Simon BUCH]

Hello,

Be careful when reviewing information online ... the Omniglot page has 
Slovenian and Slovakian language native names transposed.


// Simon BUCH



On 15/10/2012 15:23, Yves Barbion wrote:


http://www.omniglot.com/language/names.htm



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[Simon BUCH]

Hello,

Be careful when reviewing information online ... the Omniglot page has 
Slovenian and Slovakian language native names transposed.

// Simon BUCH



On 15/10/2012 15:23, Yves Barbion wrote:
>
> http://www.omniglot.com/language/names.htm
>

Does anyone know of any good way of handling right-to-left text?

[Simon BUCH]

Hello,

I know from experience that FrameMaker still doesn't support
right-to-left text, but I was wondering if there's anyone out there who
have managed to work with bi-directional text publications with
FrameMaker.   Or would you err towards other document handling solutions
that can handle PDF and XML outputs?

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RE: How to enter Unicode Character in FrameMaker 10?

[Simon BUCH]

There is a Windows input method to 'type' Unicode characters, using the
numeric pad to type the unicode hex number.

Steps required:
1. You'll need to enable the Windows 'hex numpad' option.  
As there's no user interface option for this [AFAIK], you'll need to
modify the Windows registry:
1a. Click Start  Run and launch the registry editor: RegEdit.exe
1b. Navigate to [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Input Method]
1c. Locate the key named EnableHexNumpad.   
If there isn't one, use the right mouse menu to create a new
string value with the type REG_SZ
1d. Double-click the EnableHexNumpad key to give it a value of 1
1e. Close RegEdit.

2. Reboot.   Because it's Windows.

3. Log back in, and then you can then start inserting Unicode characters
- if you know their hex code.
For example: Hold down your Left-Alt key, and then on the numeric pad:
press + 
press 2
press 1
press 9
press 2
and then release the Alt key.  You will how have a right-arrow.
Hex a to f is done using your main keyboard.

NOTE: I'm not certain if this still works in Windows 7, but knowing
Microsoft they'll still support it in the same way that you can't have
specific file names, such as: con.doc ; prn.txt ; aux.html etc. still!


By reading the Wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_input#In_Microsoft_Windows
... I discovered that Microsoft have a 'RichEdit' mode in some
applications, which will allow a user to type a number, followed by
Alt+x - but it appears that Adobe / FrameMaker do not support that.


Regards
// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS eAIP consultant

 


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How to enter Unicode Character in FrameMaker 10?

[Simon BUCH]

There is a Windows input method to 'type' Unicode characters, using the
numeric pad to type the unicode hex number.

Steps required:
1. You'll need to enable the Windows 'hex numpad' option.  
As there's no user interface option for this [AFAIK], you'll need to
modify the Windows registry:
1a. Click Start > Run and launch the registry editor: RegEdit.exe
1b. Navigate to [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Input Method]
1c. Locate the key named "EnableHexNumpad".   
If there isn't one, use the right mouse menu to create a new
string value with the type REG_SZ
1d. Double-click the EnableHexNumpad key to give it a value of 1
1e. Close RegEdit.

2. Reboot.   Because it's Windows.

3. Log back in, and then you can then start inserting Unicode characters
- if you know their hex code.
For example: Hold down your Left-Alt key, and then on the numeric pad:
press + 
press 2
press 1
press 9
press 2
and then release the Alt key.  You will how have a right-arrow.
Hex a to f is done using your main keyboard.

NOTE: I'm not certain if this still works in Windows 7, but knowing
Microsoft they'll still support it in the same way that you can't have
specific file names, such as: con.doc ; prn.txt ; aux.html etc. still!


By reading the Wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_input#In_Microsoft_Windows
... I discovered that Microsoft have a 'RichEdit' mode in some
applications, which will allow a user to type a number, followed by
Alt+x - but it appears that Adobe / FrameMaker do not support that.


Regards
// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS eAIP consultant

RE: Finding standard (non-smart) quote, apostrophe

[Simon BUCH]

Dear Tim,

There's two possible workarounds:
1. Change the occurrances of your 'prime' symbol to be the real Unicode prime ′ 
(U+2032) or double prime ″ (U+2033) characters.   Hopefully you'll be using a 
Unicode font that covers such mathematical symbols.

2. If you've got content that you don't want to be included in the spell 
checker, you can set the paragraph/character tag's language to be: None.


Regards
// Simon BUCH 
 

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tim Pann
Sent: 14 July 2011 17:41
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Finding standard (non-smart) quote, apostrophe

OK, here's a follow-up: I'm going through this document more than a year
after I wrote it and I suddenly realize why I'm having this problem with
non-smart apostrophes: I HAD to turn smart quotes off because my text,
which is very technical, includes terms that contain the prime symbol,
which is a tic or non-smart apostrophe.

So I guess now I'm stuck. I'm not changing the primes to apostrophes.

Oh well.

Tim
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Finding standard (non-smart) quote, apostrophe

[Simon BUCH]

Dear Tim,

There's two possible workarounds:
1. Change the occurrances of your 'prime' symbol to be the real Unicode prime ? 
(U+2032) or double prime ? (U+2033) characters.   Hopefully you'll be using a 
Unicode font that covers such mathematical symbols.

2. If you've got content that you don't want to be included in the spell 
checker, you can set the paragraph/character tag's language to be: "None".


Regards
// Simon BUCH 


-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tim Pann
Sent: 14 July 2011 17:41
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Finding standard (non-smart) quote, apostrophe

OK, here's a follow-up: I'm going through this document more than a year
after I wrote it and I suddenly realize why I'm having this problem with
non-smart apostrophes: I HAD to turn smart quotes off because my text,
which is very technical, includes terms that contain the "prime" symbol,
which is a tic or non-smart apostrophe.

So I guess now I'm stuck. I'm not changing the primes to apostrophes.

Oh well.

Tim

RE: FrameMaker 10

[Simon BUCH]

Ant - I seem to recall that the default paper sizes are stored in the
printer driver settings, and remember that Windows printer drivers have
3 locations where the 'default' is defined!

1. Select the Adobe PDF printer, then right mouse click and select
Properties
2. Click Printing Preferences button, and the Adobe PDF printing
preferences will appear
3. Modify the settings and click OK
4. Click the Advanced tab, then Printing defaults button.   The 'Adobe
PDF Printing Defaults' dialog is shown.
5. Modify the settings and click OK
6. Click the device settings tab, and then select the Form to tray
assignment
7. Shutdown and reboot Windows [probably not required, but hey, it's
Windows]


I think we should petition Adobe so that if they decide to sell us 'UK
English' versions of the software, then the software should come
pre-defined with UK English default settings.

// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS 

 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Davey
Sent: 31 March 2011 12:43
To: Art Campbell
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker 10

Hi Art,

Unfortunately, perhaps, my Print to File checkbox is, by default,
unchecked; and the default output is still a .prn file.

My other default setting, which is a complete PITA here in England, is
that the default paper size on my Adobe PDF printer is Letter.  PLEASE,
can anybody tell me how to set it to A4?

Best regards,
Ant
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[Simon BUCH]

Ant - I seem to recall that the default paper sizes are stored in the
printer driver settings, and remember that Windows printer drivers have
3 locations where the 'default' is defined!

1. Select the Adobe PDF printer, then right mouse click and select
Properties
2. Click Printing Preferences button, and the Adobe PDF printing
preferences will appear
3. Modify the settings and click OK
4. Click the Advanced tab, then "Printing defaults" button.   The 'Adobe
PDF Printing Defaults' dialog is shown.
5. Modify the settings and click OK
6. Click the device settings tab, and then select the "Form to tray
assignment"
7. Shutdown and reboot Windows [probably not required, but hey, it's
Windows]


I think we should petition Adobe so that if they decide to sell us 'UK
English' versions of the software, then the software should come
pre-defined with UK English default settings.

// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS 



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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Davey
Sent: 31 March 2011 12:43
To: Art Campbell
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker 10

Hi Art,

Unfortunately, perhaps, my Print to File checkbox is, by default,
unchecked; and the default output is still a .prn file.

My other default setting, which is a complete PITA here in England, is
that the default paper size on my Adobe PDF printer is Letter.  PLEASE,
can anybody tell me how to set it to A4?

Best regards,
Ant

RE: Linking to folder on network

[Simon BUCH]

From the time I worked in Adobe technical support, there are a number of
recommendations given from the days when FrameMaker was on multiple
platforms, such as:
avoid filenames with spaces, tabs, or initial periods
avoid using characters that have special meaning on some
operating systems, such as: / \ : ; * ?   , $ % |
avoid using very long filenames
avoid using very long pathnames
remember some operating systems are CaSe SeNsItIvE


The most important rule to remember is:
always use UNIX style pathnames!

Why?  FrameMaker will interpret backslash sequences as special codes,
for example:
C:\etc\hosts.fm
will interpret the '\e' as a horizontal elipse   The fix is to
reference: C:/etc/hosts.fm


Even though FrameMaker is no longer multi-platform, the recommendations
still persist.

// Simon BUCH
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[Simon BUCH]

>From the time I worked in Adobe technical support, there are a number of
recommendations given from the days when FrameMaker was on multiple
platforms, such as:
avoid filenames with spaces, tabs, or initial periods
avoid using characters that have special meaning on some
operating systems, such as: / \ : ; * ? > < , $ % |
avoid using very long filenames
avoid using very long pathnames
remember some operating systems are CaSe SeNsItIvE


The most important rule to remember is:
always use UNIX style pathnames!

Why?  FrameMaker will interpret backslash sequences as special codes,
for example:
C:\etc\hosts.fm
will interpret the '\e' as a horizontal elipse "...".  The fix is to
reference: C:/etc/hosts.fm


Even though FrameMaker is no longer multi-platform, the recommendations
still persist.

// Simon BUCH

RE: FM8 8 error message when importing *.png file

[Simon BUCH]

Hello,

I have had similar problems with documents, importing PNG graphics that
were colour depth of 24 bit or 32bit RGB - which would occasionally give
your error message, but most often would often silently crash
FrameMaker!

If my memory serves me well, I think the problematic PNG files had been
created by Adobe Illustrator.

As the graphics were grayscale, I simply reduced the palette to 8 bit,
and saved as PNG.   My favourite [Windows] application for simple
changes to graphics has to be Irfanview - small, simple, and doesn't
even need to be installed.

Regards
// Simon BUCH

 

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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Farbey
Sent: 16 June 2010 15:25
To: Framers Discussion
Subject: FM8 8 error message when importing *.png file

I am using FM 8.0p277 (installed as part of TCS 1) on Win XP Pro.

In the recent past I have had no problem importing *.png graphic files
into
FrameMaker 8.

Today I tried to import a *.png file and received an error message:
The
filter encountered an error and could not complete the translation. I
can
import files in other formats such as *.jpg.

I had a quick look on the Adobe support forum, but the only references
to
this error message appear to be related to importing PDF documents into
FrameMaker 7.

Any ideas for resolving this issue would be gratefully received.

Thanks

David
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FM8 8 error message when importing *.png file

[Simon BUCH]

Hello,

I have had similar problems with documents, importing PNG graphics that
were colour depth of 24 bit or 32bit RGB - which would occasionally give
your error message, but most often would often silently crash
FrameMaker!

If my memory serves me well, I think the problematic PNG files had been
created by Adobe Illustrator.

As the graphics were grayscale, I simply reduced the palette to 8 bit,
and saved as PNG.   My favourite [Windows] application for simple
changes to graphics has to be Irfanview - small, simple, and doesn't
even need to be installed.

Regards
// Simon BUCH



-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Farbey
Sent: 16 June 2010 15:25
To: Framers Discussion
Subject: FM8 8 error message when importing *.png file

I am using FM 8.0p277 (installed as part of TCS 1) on Win XP Pro.

In the recent past I have had no problem importing *.png graphic files
into
FrameMaker 8.

Today I tried to import a *.png file and received an error message:
"The
filter encountered an error and could not complete the translation." I
can
import files in other formats such as *.jpg.

I had a quick look on the Adobe support forum, but the only references
to
this error message appear to be related to importing PDF documents into
FrameMaker 7.

Any ideas for resolving this issue would be gratefully received.

Thanks

David

RE: reversed text style

[Simon BUCH]

Hello,

I would err against using a 'reverse' font, as I've found they are often
limited to a small subset of characters, and can sometime cause problems
when sending to print.

I would recommend Art Campbell's suggestion, of using a table with a
fill setting.  This way, the document can use the regular prescribed
font - which can assist situations where a document has to be translated
for a multi-language interfaces.

Regards
// Simon BUCH





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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: 18 May 2010 01:20
To: 'Dick Spierings'
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: reversed text style

Hi Dick,

Another possibility is to use a reversed typeface.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
r...@frameexpert.com

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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 5:03 PM
To: Dick Spierings
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: reversed text style

If I were you, I'd either:
 * Create graphics for them, store each graphic in a referenced frame on
a
Reference page and pull them in with a set of unique paragraph tags.
Or
 * Set up a single-cell table, set the cell background to black and
create a
paragraph tag with the font set to white. And I'd hang the table from a
special Anchor paragraph tag that you only use for that purpose, so you
can
control the placement precisely.

Cheers,
Art


On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Dick Spierings
d.spieri...@fluidwell.comwrote:

 I need to create some reversed text words (white text in black
 background) in my body text. Examples are short words like RUN,
 STOP, SETUP and PROGRAM, which indicate system states.

 I like to create a character style for these, but how do I do that...?



 Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,



 Dick Spierings



 ' +31 (0)413 343786

   www.fluidwell.com http://www.fluidwell.com/

 * d.spieri...@fluidwell.com


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RE: reversed text style

[Simon BUCH]

Hello Dick,

If you're wanting to keep the 'reverse' text inside a line of text, you'll 
probably want to make them into drawn graphics on one of the reference pages, 
or import them as GIF/PNG graphics, and then paste them into your document, 
using anchored frames.

I am a stickler for simplicity in documents, and I've found that putting 
instructions in paragraphs can lead to confusion for some users.   For example: 
I've seen some documents (where [0] is a button graphic) which have 
instructions like:
To get back to the menu, Press [0] [0] [0].
... and I've seen some trainees diligently type:  000.


Hope that helps
// Simon BUCH



-Original Message-
From: Dick Spierings [mailto:d.spieri...@fluidwell.com] 
Sent: 18 May 2010 10:36
To: Simon BUCH; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Rick Quatro
Subject: RE: Mogelijke spam (volgens TM Srv01 content scan): RE: reversed text 
style

Hi Simon,

The idea of installing a new typeface would be the most straight forward and 
simple solution if not that I too foresee printing problems. So after reading 
Rick's suggestion (which makes good sense: I didn't think of it!) I decided to 
rule that option out.

Back to Art Campbell's suggestion: if you do use a single cell table with black 
background, how do you then keep it in line with the remainder of the text like 
you can with an anchored frame? (Tables have no at insertion point anchoring 
position, anchored frames do.) Note that I am talking about a single word 
somewhere in the paragraph, not an entire paragraph. 

Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,
 
Dick Spierings
 
' +31 (0)413 343786
  www.fluidwell.com
w d.spieri...@fluidwell.com 

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