Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
Hi Clemment. While I agree, fighting games aren't the only games with that complex or deep a physics and engine behind them. As I've said Mario, despite being a simple game, has a very precisely calculated physics engine so that in order to perform well in various situations, much less attempt speedruns, you need to truly practice and master the in game movements of the character. Check the super metroid guides if you don't believe me, i have seen people analyse the game according to what size of collision box the character creates in different frames of animation and movement and thus what is the way to avoid incoming fire. this is really what I'm talking about, games that are not necessarily complex, but have a solid engine built on more than instantanious reactions that a player has to get familiar with. This is something often talked about in connection with vehicle driving games or sports games, but actually can be a factor in other types of game too. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 6:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Simple and predictable is not the same thing. Sure a yo-yo is simple to use, but if it can get a bit unpredictable if you move it in a way it shouldn't be moved. In audio games, everything is the same. In Judgement day if a helicopter is flying towards you, it'll always be the same. There's no variations on amount of hits needed to stop it, or even in its trajectory. The planes are the same. They move from left to right, and when you shoot them they make little adjustments which while bothersome, doesn't really make for any challenge. Not to say JD isn't a bad game... it's fun. And simple yet hard to master games should be more abundant as well. Street fighter 4, for example, is easy to pick up and play, and to grasp basic things like combos and commands. But to really get good at it, you need to look deeper into the engine. Where each combo can be used, just how risky is throwing out that move, etc. Which is why I like fighting games so much... they're the only kinds of games we can play fully, yet they're so unpredictable especially against human opponents. If I jump, is he going to uppercut me out of the air? If I throw a super, is there a way for me to stop him blocking it so I guarantee a hit without wasting my meter? A lot of the time I play online is spent thinking, oh crap, he's rashing towards me. Is he going to throw out a low attack which requires a different block command than a regular attack? Is he going to go for an unblockable throw? It's that kind of complexity that audio games lack and need to develop. It's always been amazing to me how two bunches of picksals and polygons beating each other up on a screen can be so complex. Sure you may say it's like a real fight, but it's a video game... the real thing takes all that into account and more. I just find fighting games so much simpler than most of people give them credit for. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News I don't think it's predictability exactly clemment. Super mario is a very simple game. You have very few in game elements, indeed probably fewer than in many audio games. It's the fact that you do not control mario exactly, that his jumps all have a degree of stopping distance which you need to learn and master, and the movements of in game objects are calculated so as to challenge your spacial logic intensively that makes the game difficult. For example I recently got given a yo yo. I'll admit I'm not the most coordinated person in the world, but learning to master my own spacial logic and hand coordination in order to get it to do what I want has been quite a challenge, even though the yo yo itself is a very simple actifact who's movements are easy to predict. This is what I mean in terms of games. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read
Re: [Audyssey] Any chance of making huge cave work with windows?
Hi Dark, That's cool. The only version of Oregon Trail that I have played was a GW Basic version. Seems though that it is a very stripped down version. I was told that it is nothing like the original Apple 2e version. Yes, the original GW Basic version of the golf game had only 3 courses to play. I added 3 and saw that the courses themselves only took a few numbers and descriptions to define them, so I then made the golf course maker program so that others could also make courses for the game. The original golf game was pure text with no sounds. And you typed in the amount of power to hit for your shot. So I added all of the sounds including the power indicator sound thing. However the original did have some ASCII graphics that were pretty cool. I stripped those out though as they would some times try to be spoken by a screen reader. The trucker game was also pure text with no sounds at all. I would love to make a Roller Coaster Tycoon type sim, but I am not sure that it wouldn't be over my head to try something like that. I really have never programmed a sim. Maybe I should start out trying a simple one and see how that goes. BFN Jim The last sound that it made was Zap . j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any chance of making huge cave work with windows?
Hi Thomas, Yeah, maybe not as involved as your adult test speech program, but I sure had allot of fun programming all of the random descriptions for my Triple J Shooter game. grin BFN Jim Sex is free, it feels good and is good for you! j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any chance of making huge cave work with windows?
Now that dcoaster thing would be coo jim. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: dark Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any chance of making huge cave work with windows? Hi Dark, That's cool. The only version of Oregon Trail that I have played was a GW Basic version. Seems though that it is a very stripped down version. I was told that it is nothing like the original Apple 2e version. Yes, the original GW Basic version of the golf game had only 3 courses to play. I added 3 and saw that the courses themselves only took a few numbers and descriptions to define them, so I then made the golf course maker program so that others could also make courses for the game. The original golf game was pure text with no sounds. And you typed in the amount of power to hit for your shot. So I added all of the sounds including the power indicator sound thing. However the original did have some ASCII graphics that were pretty cool. I stripped those out though as they would some times try to be spoken by a screen reader. The trucker game was also pure text with no sounds at all. I would love to make a Roller Coaster Tycoon type sim, but I am not sure that it wouldn't be over my head to try something like that. I really have never programmed a sim. Maybe I should start out trying a simple one and see how that goes. BFN Jim The last sound that it made was Zap . j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Possible scoring bug in Roadsplat
it is possible if you idle in one spot too long. Your score is going to decrease very quickly if you don't cross. On 1/5/12, Sarah Haake ti...@gmx.net wrote: Hi, I think it's possible that the scoring doesn't work right in Roadsplat. I just had a final score of 4800 and was on level 8. I don't think this should be possible if I got the explanation in the readme right. Best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] java script security things
This email only proves you don't read them, because i told you where to look. So you don't wine, IE, tools menu, Internet options, security tab menu, custom... and look for java script. There are a few in there. At 01:00 AM 1/5/2012, you wrote: Hi. WHat ie settings do I need to modify to play javascript games? I don't touch most of these in fact have never needed to for ages. I have ie8 on my xp systems and ie9 on win7 here on another unit to. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Possible scoring bug in Roadsplat
Hi, ok. But shouldn't the level go down again as well? It would be logical and I thought I saw a sound for that in the menu of the game. But maybe I am wrong there. But I think the level should also drop if the score drops. Any thoughts? Best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] java script security things
i wonder if you also go by Marvin? Because I know one on another list that does the same with emails. At 01:00 AM 1/5/2012, you wrote: Hi. WHat ie settings do I need to modify to play javascript games? I don't touch most of these in fact have never needed to for ages. I have ie8 on my xp systems and ie9 on win7 here on another unit to. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any chance of making huge cave work with windows?
Hi jim. I can't imagine writing in the power needed for golf, wouldn't that make the hole game far too easy? for instance on a 279 yard hole pulling out your three wood and typing 279 and just getting a hole in one, rather than having to judge the sound file? As to sims, well in a way I think you've already coded a good few of the basic elements. Starmule for instance involves making decisions with a prophit vs loss catagory over time, and trucker involves a number of factors that change over time with you deciding what needs doing. A basic sim just needs a number of resources to manage, projects that require those resources which must be completed either as goals in themselves or to generate more resources, and random effects that may occur to alter either the resources or the completion of projects. For instance, one dos game I read a review of recently had you piloting a spaceship to neptune. Every tick your ship used fuel and battery power. You could generate more battery power by burning fuel, and could refuel at a number of stop off points along the way. Each turn you decided on your speed and your course, sinse different courses required different amounts of fuel and batteries and could propell you different distances. However you also had various desasters and failures that would affect your ship, taking either fuel, distance or time to fix, or negating some of the course correction options, though these could be fixed by picking up spare parts at the few way stations. Yes, this is! a litle like trucker, but with more factors to manage and far fewer stops. A spacial map is also sometimes used to add puzle type space elements into the mix, for instance where to build roads in a sim city type game but this isn't completely necessary, especially when there are a lot of factors in the game. A game with that sort of play style, managing a number of factors over time in the face of randomness and limited risk, something like trucker but with more complexity would be a good one I think. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any chance of making huge cave work with windows?
if there was a roller coaster tycoon accessible sim for the blind i'd give it a spin - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: dark Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 4:42 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any chance of making huge cave work with windows? Hi Dark, That's cool. The only version of Oregon Trail that I have played was a GW Basic version. Seems though that it is a very stripped down version. I was told that it is nothing like the original Apple 2e version. Yes, the original GW Basic version of the golf game had only 3 courses to play. I added 3 and saw that the courses themselves only took a few numbers and descriptions to define them, so I then made the golf course maker program so that others could also make courses for the game. The original golf game was pure text with no sounds. And you typed in the amount of power to hit for your shot. So I added all of the sounds including the power indicator sound thing. However the original did have some ASCII graphics that were pretty cool. I stripped those out though as they would some times try to be spoken by a screen reader. The trucker game was also pure text with no sounds at all. I would love to make a Roller Coaster Tycoon type sim, but I am not sure that it wouldn't be over my head to try something like that. I really have never programmed a sim. Maybe I should start out trying a simple one and see how that goes. BFN Jim The last sound that it made was Zap . j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Possible scoring bug in Roadsplat
i hear that but if 2 or 3 cars come at once and you can't shoot them you have to wait or die trying to cross:) - Original Message - From: Oriol Gómez ogomez@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 5:13 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Possible scoring bug in Roadsplat it is possible if you idle in one spot too long. Your score is going to decrease very quickly if you don't cross. On 1/5/12, Sarah Haake ti...@gmx.net wrote: Hi, I think it's possible that the scoring doesn't work right in Roadsplat. I just had a final score of 4800 and was on level 8. I don't think this should be possible if I got the explanation in the readme right. Best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
I know it isn't just fighting games, I'm just saying those are the only games blind people can play, as of now, that have that level of depth. You can't expect someone totally blind to beat a metroid game, or even the original Mario. I just used fighting games because, as much as I would've liked to, I didn't have enough knowledge with platformers to talk about them. But it's that simple, yet deep engine, that I think developers should look into rather than timing reflexes. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 2:32 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Hi Clemment. While I agree, fighting games aren't the only games with that complex or deep a physics and engine behind them. As I've said Mario, despite being a simple game, has a very precisely calculated physics engine so that in order to perform well in various situations, much less attempt speedruns, you need to truly practice and master the in game movements of the character. Check the super metroid guides if you don't believe me, i have seen people analyse the game according to what size of collision box the character creates in different frames of animation and movement and thus what is the way to avoid incoming fire. this is really what I'm talking about, games that are not necessarily complex, but have a solid engine built on more than instantanious reactions that a player has to get familiar with. This is something often talked about in connection with vehicle driving games or sports games, but actually can be a factor in other types of game too. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 6:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Simple and predictable is not the same thing. Sure a yo-yo is simple to use, but if it can get a bit unpredictable if you move it in a way it shouldn't be moved. In audio games, everything is the same. In Judgement day if a helicopter is flying towards you, it'll always be the same. There's no variations on amount of hits needed to stop it, or even in its trajectory. The planes are the same. They move from left to right, and when you shoot them they make little adjustments which while bothersome, doesn't really make for any challenge. Not to say JD isn't a bad game... it's fun. And simple yet hard to master games should be more abundant as well. Street fighter 4, for example, is easy to pick up and play, and to grasp basic things like combos and commands. But to really get good at it, you need to look deeper into the engine. Where each combo can be used, just how risky is throwing out that move, etc. Which is why I like fighting games so much... they're the only kinds of games we can play fully, yet they're so unpredictable especially against human opponents. If I jump, is he going to uppercut me out of the air? If I throw a super, is there a way for me to stop him blocking it so I guarantee a hit without wasting my meter? A lot of the time I play online is spent thinking, oh crap, he's rashing towards me. Is he going to throw out a low attack which requires a different block command than a regular attack? Is he going to go for an unblockable throw? It's that kind of complexity that audio games lack and need to develop. It's always been amazing to me how two bunches of picksals and polygons beating each other up on a screen can be so complex. Sure you may say it's like a real fight, but it's a video game... the real thing takes all that into account and more. I just find fighting games so much simpler than most of people give them credit for. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News I don't think it's predictability exactly clemment. Super mario is a very simple game. You have very few in game elements, indeed probably fewer than in many audio games. It's the fact that you do not control mario exactly, that his jumps all have a degree of stopping distance which you need to learn and master, and the movements of in game objects are calculated so as to challenge your spacial logic intensively that makes the game difficult. For example I recently got given a yo yo. I'll admit I'm not the most coordinated person in the world, but learning to master my own spacial logic and hand coordination in order to get it to do what I want has been quite a challenge, even though the yo yo itself is a very simple actifact who's movements are easy to predict. This is what I mean in terms of games. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to
[Audyssey] Thursday's Out of Sight events
Here are the events scheduled for Thursday, January 5th: Chain Reaction, Afternoon Style 2:00 PM eastern Hosted by Julie and Hawkeye Location: Game Zone Join us every Thursday, at 2:00 PM eastern, in the Game Zone. Bring lots of snacks and refreshments, sit back and be prepared to have some fun! Logos 8:00 PM eastern Hosted by Julie and Sherry Location: Game Zone: Join Julie and Sherry at 8:00 PM eastern, in the Game Zone for a new game called Logo's. Test your knowledge against t.v commercials and brand names. This game takes t.v trivia to a whole new level. Hope to see you all there so we can put you on a team. Musical Bingo 9:15 PM eastern Hosted by Julie, Rick, and John Location: Game Zone Join Julie P, Rick, and John in the game zone at 9:15 PM eastern for an entertaining hour of Musical Bingo. Do you remember your hits of the 80's? Still bopping along to the sounds of the swinging 60's? Do you remember old and new movie theme's? Can you identify cartoon characters or t.v theme's? Then this is the place for you. Yes it's here the all new Musical Bingo. The first team to call a bingo wins. Have a fantastic day! --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story
Can we do something about her bad breath? Don't give a spoiler, just a yes or no. Maybe water or a fire extinguisher if there is one, which I doubt, because that would be too easy, unless there are other difficulties. (grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story Hi Hayden, Ah, yes. You've got a good start on discovering her identity. At least her animal form if not her name. Well,since you've gotten that far I'll be a good sport and let you know it is Sekhmet the goddess of war and medicine. She is often shown as a lioness with fire coming out of her mouth. She brings healing to her allies and death and destruction to her enemies. One of the reasons I selected her is because she is a shapeshifter. She can take on the body of a lioness, or take human form and carve you into pieces with a sword. That means during the course of a battle she might change forms on you and you'll be fighting a fire breathing lioness, or she might shift into human form and swing a heavy bronze sword at your head. I expect the fight will be extremely difficult but fun. Definitely way cooler than fighting Athena eh? Cheers! On 1/4/12, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: HI, The only major female I can think of as of now is the lioness goddess, and that would be something of a fight: although, I'll keep thinking of other possibilities. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story
Lol! That would be warped. However, truthfully we don't have any accessible games like that. None full of jokes, gags, and one-liners. Your idea sounds like something straight out of Mad Magazine along with Star Blek, Stuperman, and their other parity comics. On 1/5/12, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: When you've developed MOTA fully, you will need to take a break and then make a parody game... instead of mercenaries Angela will be spraying kids with a water pistol... and the head man will be the principle of the school she's ransacking for the mystical fountain pen or something. Yikes... terrible dialog is always bad, but sometimes... you can't help but laugh. Resident Evil had some pretty cheesy lines too. By the way... that hot air line? Classic. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story
Hi Charles, Not a chance. Your best defense is to get the heck out of Sekhmet's way when she launches a fireball at you. Duck, hop left/right, or jump over it, but don't stand there and get roasted. I suppose if Angela really wanted to put that fireball out she might have to ask Harpy, the Nile Goddess, to hit Sekhmet with a deluge of water, but I doubt she'll help you out. :D Cheers! On 1/5/12, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Can we do something about her bad breath? Don't give a spoiler, just a yes or no. Maybe water or a fire extinguisher if there is one, which I doubt, because that would be too easy, unless there are other difficulties. (grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story
Actually the first game I'm thinking of developing with BGT is going to be something along those lines, someting like Maniac Mansion. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story Lol! That would be warped. However, truthfully we don't have any accessible games like that. None full of jokes, gags, and one-liners. Your idea sounds like something straight out of Mad Magazine along with Star Blek, Stuperman, and their other parity comics. On 1/5/12, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: When you've developed MOTA fully, you will need to take a break and then make a parody game... instead of mercenaries Angela will be spraying kids with a water pistol... and the head man will be the principle of the school she's ransacking for the mystical fountain pen or something. Yikes... terrible dialog is always bad, but sometimes... you can't help but laugh. Resident Evil had some pretty cheesy lines too. By the way... that hot air line? Classic. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story
Oi. I took theatre while I was in high school... and that wasn't too long ago. In theatre, you're taught to be weird... I would totally kill for a game like that. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story Lol! That would be warped. However, truthfully we don't have any accessible games like that. None full of jokes, gags, and one-liners. Your idea sounds like something straight out of Mad Magazine along with Star Blek, Stuperman, and their other parity comics. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] RC aircraft - Re: a thought on the Shard Workshop project
Hey thanks for the tips Trouble, great to meet another blind guy into this hobby you're the first I've come across in quite a while. Yes I do try to take the heli off with the tail toward me for a good point of reference but you of course sometimes get rotation one way or the other which will throw you off. These little helis that I have don't have individual trim controls they just have a trim dial below the sticks. I assume if I get something a bit more sophisticated like the Eflight ones I mention they will have more trim controls. Thanks again. Tom On Jan 3, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Trouble wrote: To help fix that drift. Get the helicopter to hover with tail to you. Then if it drifts left, give rudder trim on radio a little until it stops. With no wind conditions you should be able to get a steady hover. If not know where the trims are on radio. They are right next to the gimbals. At 02:31 PM 1/3/2012, you wrote: Hey Charles and all. The helis designed for indoor flying are mostly pretty small. I have a couple of them here that I've bought over the last few years, my Bladerunner has a rotor diameter of about 11 inches if memory serves and weighs in at about 55 grams would have to look at the manual to get exact specs. Last year I picked up one of the little Sima s107 microcopters they're basically a cheapy version of the Eflight micros. These have a rotor diameter of about 7 inches and they weigh in at about 35 grams or so so they are very very small. Yes you do need some space to fly these little things around, we have too much crap in our house and besides flying things tend to scare Xena our female green iguana so I tend to take my indoor craft either down to our rec room or over to a friend's place who has more room. The motors on these little things are easily audible so it is pretty easy to use the same type of hand-ear coordination that we develop in audio gaming to fly them, the difference is you definitely need to have good spatial concepts and be able to really understand what three dimensions means and be able to think quickly that way. Basically the first thing I try to work on if I haven't been flying for a while is to achieve a stable hover, you want to get the heli off the ground a bit so that your rotor wash does not cause too much turbulence and then try to hear if it is drifting, they do drift very easily despite the fact that most of them have an internal gyroscope and any air currents at all will cause this, then you have to apply a very slight amount with your directional stick to counter this movement. If you are a total which I am this is going to be challenging because you will not know which way to move your directional stick, e.g. you will not know if your heli is drifting forward, backward, or sideways. The best approach that I've found is to simply apply a bit of direction and see where it goes and be ready to correct quickly if you have guessed wrong. These little things are loads of fun if you have somewhere to fly them, so far as I'm concerned it's like gaming but even better in a way because you're actually controlling a real object instead of a virtual one. I've had a fascination with RC stuff most of my adult life but it's only since we are seeing the advent of digital radio control and these reasonably affordable products that I've been able to actually get into it. Having said that if you do decide to give this a go, I would recommend that you pick up one of the inexpensive ones to start with, something like the Sima helis are ok, they only run around 30 bucks or so on Amazon last time I checked. That way if you crack one up it isn't the end of the world. You can get better micros from companies like Eflight for instance, I am just about ready to upgrade to one of these, if you want strictly indoor flying then I am considering something like the MCX2. If you want something that you can fly outside too then maybe the CX2 would be worth looking at. There are of course way more expensive ones, you can spend hundreds and thousands of dollars on this hobby but since I don't have that kind of money to spend the ones I am talking about and the ones I buy are probably considered the less expensive ones, the bigger one, the CX is around 150 or so last time I checked. One nice thing about the better ones from Eflight, while the cheapy ones I have are really pretty much toys and if you break them that's it, the Eflight ones are really closer to an true RC model and you can get pretty much any spare parts you need if you do crash one. In short, RC stuff is loads of fun and there are definitely things that we can do in that hobby without sight. Besides my two helis I also have a bigger quadrocopter called an x-ufo and a couple of 1/24 scale rc tanks. RC hovercraft are something I'm really interested in but have not done much research
Re: [Audyssey] RC aircraft - Re: a thought on the Shard Workshop project
Hey Trouble and all. Thanks for the link I will definitely check this out. Tom On Jan 3, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Trouble wrote: For a look at hovers, http://www.bananahobby.com/ At 02:31 PM 1/3/2012, you wrote: Hey Charles and all. The helis designed for indoor flying are mostly pretty small. I have a couple of them here that I've bought over the last few years, my Bladerunner has a rotor diameter of about 11 inches if memory serves and weighs in at about 55 grams would have to look at the manual to get exact specs. Last year I picked up one of the little Sima s107 microcopters they're basically a cheapy version of the Eflight micros. These have a rotor diameter of about 7 inches and they weigh in at about 35 grams or so so they are very very small. Yes you do need some space to fly these little things around, we have too much crap in our house and besides flying things tend to scare Xena our female green iguana so I tend to take my indoor craft either down to our rec room or over to a friend's place who has more room. The motors on these little things are easily audible so it is pretty easy to use the same type of hand-ear coordination that we develop in audio gaming to fly them, the difference is you definitely need to have good spatial concepts and be able to really understand what three dimensions means and be able to think quickly that way. Basically the first thing I try to work on if I haven't been flying for a while is to achieve a stable hover, you want to get the heli off the ground a bit so that your rotor wash does not cause too much turbulence and then try to hear if it is drifting, they do drift very easily despite the fact that most of them have an internal gyroscope and any air currents at all will cause this, then you have to apply a very slight amount with your directional stick to counter this movement. If you are a total which I am this is going to be challenging because you will not know which way to move your directional stick, e.g. you will not know if your heli is drifting forward, backward, or sideways. The best approach that I've found is to simply apply a bit of direction and see where it goes and be ready to correct quickly if you have guessed wrong. These little things are loads of fun if you have somewhere to fly them, so far as I'm concerned it's like gaming but even better in a way because you're actually controlling a real object instead of a virtual one. I've had a fascination with RC stuff most of my adult life but it's only since we are seeing the advent of digital radio control and these reasonably affordable products that I've been able to actually get into it. Having said that if you do decide to give this a go, I would recommend that you pick up one of the inexpensive ones to start with, something like the Sima helis are ok, they only run around 30 bucks or so on Amazon last time I checked. That way if you crack one up it isn't the end of the world. You can get better micros from companies like Eflight for instance, I am just about ready to upgrade to one of these, if you want strictly indoor flying then I am considering something like the MCX2. If you want something that you can fly outside too then maybe the CX2 would be worth looking at. There are of course way more expensive ones, you can spend hundreds and thousands of dollars on this hobby but since I don't have that kind of money to spend the ones I am talking about and the ones I buy are probably considered the less expensive ones, the bigger one, the CX is around 150 or so last time I checked. One nice thing about the better ones from Eflight, while the cheapy ones I have are really pretty much toys and if you break them that's it, the Eflight ones are really closer to an true RC model and you can get pretty much any spare parts you need if you do crash one. In short, RC stuff is loads of fun and there are definitely things that we can do in that hobby without sight. Besides my two helis I also have a bigger quadrocopter called an x-ufo and a couple of 1/24 scale rc tanks. RC hovercraft are something I'm really interested in but have not done much research on which ones are good to get so would be glad for any info on that. If anyone is interested in getting into this hobby I'd certainly be happy to talk about it further but we probably oughta do it off list since this isn't really gaming. Game on. Tom On Dec 22, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Charles Rivard wrote: Just curious: Indoor helicopters? I would think that any flying craft needs a lot of space. How big are these helicopters?, and how do you navigate without smacking it into walls or ceiling without looking? It sounds like interesting fun! --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com To: Gamers
[Audyssey] best SC vid yet!
Oh, my, gosh! This video is short, but juicy. The audio is shown in brilliance here. The music is nice and high up, and the sound effects are awesome. I don't think the people playing are all that skilled though... that seemed really slow to me. Enjoy! http://www.gamespot.com/soulcalibur-v/videos/soulcalibur-v-quick-battle-mode-6348213 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] RC aircraft - Re: a thought on the Shard Workshop project
you should check out youtube.com They have a lot of reviews and open box showing a lot of this stuff. At 02:34 PM 1/5/2012, you wrote: Hey thanks for the tips Trouble, great to meet another blind guy into this hobby you're the first I've come across in quite a while. Yes I do try to take the heli off with the tail toward me for a good point of reference but you of course sometimes get rotation one way or the other which will throw you off. These little helis that I have don't have individual trim controls they just have a trim dial below the sticks. I assume if I get something a bit more sophisticated like the Eflight ones I mention they will have more trim controls. Thanks again. Tom On Jan 3, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Trouble wrote: To help fix that drift. Get the helicopter to hover with tail to you. Then if it drifts left, give rudder trim on radio a little until it stops. With no wind conditions you should be able to get a steady hover. If not know where the trims are on radio. They are right next to the gimbals. At 02:31 PM 1/3/2012, you wrote: Hey Charles and all. The helis designed for indoor flying are mostly pretty small. I have a couple of them here that I've bought over the last few years, my Bladerunner has a rotor diameter of about 11 inches if memory serves and weighs in at about 55 grams would have to look at the manual to get exact specs. Last year I picked up one of the little Sima s107 microcopters they're basically a cheapy version of the Eflight micros. These have a rotor diameter of about 7 inches and they weigh in at about 35 grams or so so they are very very small. Yes you do need some space to fly these little things around, we have too much crap in our house and besides flying things tend to scare Xena our female green iguana so I tend to take my indoor craft either down to our rec room or over to a friend's place who has more room. The motors on these little things are easily audible so it is pretty easy to use the same type of hand-ear coordination that we develop in audio gaming to fly them, the difference is you definitely need to have good spatial concepts and be able to really understand what three dimensions means and be able to think quickly that way. Basically the first thing I try to work on if I haven't been flying for a while is to achieve a stable hover, you want to get the heli off the ground a bit so that your rotor wash does not cause too much turbulence and then try to hear if it is drifting, they do drift very easily despite the fact that most of them have an internal gyroscope and any air currents at all will cause this, then you have to apply a very slight amount with your directional stick to counter this movement. If you are a total which I am this is going to be challenging because you will not know which way to move your directional stick, e.g. you will not know if your heli is drifting forward, backward, or sideways. The best approach that I've found is to simply apply a bit of direction and see where it goes and be ready to correct quickly if you have guessed wrong. These little things are loads of fun if you have somewhere to fly them, so far as I'm concerned it's like gaming but even better in a way because you're actually controlling a real object instead of a virtual one. I've had a fascination with RC stuff most of my adult life but it's only since we are seeing the advent of digital radio control and these reasonably affordable products that I've been able to actually get into it. Having said that if you do decide to give this a go, I would recommend that you pick up one of the inexpensive ones to start with, something like the Sima helis are ok, they only run around 30 bucks or so on Amazon last time I checked. That way if you crack one up it isn't the end of the world. You can get better micros from companies like Eflight for instance, I am just about ready to upgrade to one of these, if you want strictly indoor flying then I am considering something like the MCX2. If you want something that you can fly outside too then maybe the CX2 would be worth looking at. There are of course way more expensive ones, you can spend hundreds and thousands of dollars on this hobby but since I don't have that kind of money to spend the ones I am talking about and the ones I buy are probably considered the less expensive ones, the bigger one, the CX is around 150 or so last time I checked. One nice thing about the better ones from Eflight, while the cheapy ones I have are really pretty much toys and if you break them that's it, the Eflight ones are really closer to an true RC model and you can get pretty much any spare parts you need if you do crash one. In short, RC stuff is loads of fun and there are definitely things that we can do in that hobby without sight. Besides my two helis I also have a bigger quadrocopter called an x-ufo and a couple of 1/24 scale rc
Re: [Audyssey] best SC vid yet!
This games sounds brilliant. Or at least, a lot better than the ones before it. The music i'm thinking could get rather catchy after a while, in a good way. On 1/5/12, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, my, gosh! This video is short, but juicy. The audio is shown in brilliance here. The music is nice and high up, and the sound effects are awesome. I don't think the people playing are all that skilled though... that seemed really slow to me. Enjoy! http://www.gamespot.com/soulcalibur-v/videos/soulcalibur-v-quick-battle-mode-6348213 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Eamon delux good and bad news
Hi. Well I've had good news from the developer of eamon delux. he's now working on a vi compatibility mode which will nicely fix all the annoyences of the first version such as the display problems and menues that could only be read through highlighting, it's also a generally major bug fix which is handy. Dosbox is apparently going to be optional at install, so that you will stil be able to run the game in a dos console window. Of course the bad bit about this is that it probably won't run that way on windows vista or 7, but there's not a lot that can be done about that unfortunately, other than running it in a virtual machine of course. I'm also suggesting to the developer that he add in the ability to buy upgrades to your core character stats, so that you can actually progress your character over time in a true rpg style and also don't have to rely on the character editer. This option is available in the expanded graphical version of the main hall, but not in the text one unfortunately, so I hope he'll add it sinse it means you can start off with your randomly rolled stats, then improve as you play in a true rpg style. I'm not sure what he is planning to do about the dungeon design part of the program, though if this could be made accessible that might be great for people wanting to write textual rpgs. So, hopefuly this is mostly good news for everyone. Btw, if you don't know what eamon delux is, see the page on audiogames.net. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] java script security things
aah thanks At 09:07 a.m. 5/01/2012 -0500, you wrote: This email only proves you don't read them, because i told you where to look. So you don't wine, IE, tools menu, Internet options, security tab menu, custom... and look for java script. There are a few in there. At 01:00 AM 1/5/2012, you wrote: Hi. WHat ie settings do I need to modify to play javascript games? I don't touch most of these in fact have never needed to for ages. I have ie8 on my xp systems and ie9 on win7 here on another unit to. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Eamon delux good and bad news
Hello, Dark. I have Windows 7 32 bit, and I am able to run most of DOS games in the command prompt. So people could try to do that with the different DOS games. Sadly enough Windows 7 64 bit will not run any DOS games in the command prompt. From what I am understanding the developer that helped me to put De Steno Games on the iOS platform, is working on an emulator for the iOS that will be accessible with voice over. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] best SC vid yet!
Agreed this is another good one thanks for it. Yes I think I see what you mean about these players being slower than some of the other ones we've heard for this game. Definitely looking forward to this one. Game on. Tom On Jan 5, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Clement Chou wrote: Oh, my, gosh! This video is short, but juicy. The audio is shown in brilliance here. The music is nice and high up, and the sound effects are awesome. I don't think the people playing are all that skilled though... that seemed really slow to me. Enjoy! http://www.gamespot.com/soulcalibur-v/videos/soulcalibur-v-quick-battle-mode-6348213 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story
Hi Dark, I know what you are saying. Although, I am, and always have been a fan of the Tomb Raider games, the Jacolin Natla storyline is beginning to get old. Clear back in the original 1997 game, Tomb Raider, Lara Croft is hired by Natla to retrieve the pieces of the Scion which turns out to be a magic artifact from Atlantis. Natla herself turns out to be an imortal Queen of Atlantis who wants the Scion to bring back Atlantis. After Lara beats Natla there is a cutscene that shows Natla falling into a chasm to her death, or so Lara thinks. The next time we see Natla is in Tomb Raider Legend. She also plays a major roll at the end of Tomb Raider Underworld as well. Its like how many times can Lara kill the woman off, send her to the underworld, and she keeps coming back to get her butt kicked. Lol! Of course, the entire series has been mishandled in my opinion, and there are some pretty huge plot holes. Its one thing to keep bringing a main villain back from the dead, but its even worse when a game company brings a main character back from the dead. Perhaps the most infamous of these is the jump between Last Revelation and Angel of Darkness where Edos Interactive killed Lara off in Last Revelation, and brought her back to life in Angel of Darkness with a revised story that she was only missing not physically dead as the cutscene had implied. For those who don't know what I'm talking about in Tomb Raider Last Revelation Dr. Von Croy and Lara Croft are in Egypt searching for the tomb of Set. Of course, Lara finds it and unintentionally sets Set free when she removes the Amulet of Horus from his tomb, thus unbinding him from his prison, to go on a rampage. Set makes Dr. Von Croy his avatar, and the next 32 levels or so are spent gathering together the weapons needed to beat Set and rebind him in his tomb. What actually ends up happening when Lara fights set is she puts the Amulet of Horus in the niche of the wall, and it causes Set's temple to collapse imprisoning him in stone. The final cutscene shows Lara running for her life as the temple falls down all around her, and she makes it to the main entrance when the floor breaks below her feet. She slips and grabs a broken ledge where Von Croy tries to grab her hand and help her up. As he reaches for her the ledge breaks and Lara Croft falls screaming to her death. Its a clear cut case where the authors intended to kill her off, and there is no way you can write that cutscene off as anything else but a final death scene. Never-the-less Edos must have realized they killed the golden goose as they tried to go back and rewrite history and just blow the ending of Last Revelation off. In Angel of Darkness there is a scene where Lara shows up at Von Croys apartment and he gasps, aLara, your alive! Then, she makes some comment about not being really dead, but only missing and having lost her memory for a while. Just then some thugs break in, he hands Lara his diary, as they blow him away and frame the murder on Lara Croft. The whole setup for bringing her back doesn't even begin to explain why the fall didn't kill her, and how she escaped when the temple came down on top of her. It was just a quick and easy fix so Edos could begin selling more Tomb Raider games. This is something I won't do in my games, because its simply unbelievable from a plot standpoint. Game or not those kinds of things are a turn off for me. Cheers! On 1/5/12, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Agreed Tom, that raising villain plot really can only go so far. That's actually one of the reasons I'm sorry i can't play the current mega man and mega man x games, sinse in the X series, Sigma has actually been perminantly killed off in mega man x 8, while the classic series games have just introduced the virus into the games and seem to be leading up to the final death of wily and the introduction of the Mavaric virus. One of the things I always appreciate in a story, weather with a game or series or anything else is being able to move it on and having plots end rather than just doing the same thing over and over again. Look at star trek ds9 where they decided to actually introduce on going story with the dominion war which of course eventually comes to a final end, or babylon 5 which does this even more so. this has actually been one of my complaints with the recent Dr. who, they no longer seem to considder what the various races such as the daleks are doing progressively through time and just pull them in to be villain of the week. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of
Re: [Audyssey] Eamon delux good and bad news
Hi Dark, This is indeed good news. Depending on how Aeman is compiled it might run on Vista or windows 7. If it is a 16-bit application then it would run ok on 32-bit compatible versions of Vista/Windows 7 in 16-bit compatibility mode. If it is 16-bit and you have 64-bit Windows Vista/Windows 7 then it won't run. If it is 32-bit then it will run on all of the above. Make sense? Cheers! On 1/5/12, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi. Well I've had good news from the developer of eamon delux. he's now working on a vi compatibility mode which will nicely fix all the annoyences of the first version such as the display problems and menues that could only be read through highlighting, it's also a generally major bug fix which is handy. Dosbox is apparently going to be optional at install, so that you will stil be able to run the game in a dos console window. Of course the bad bit about this is that it probably won't run that way on windows vista or 7, but there's not a lot that can be done about that unfortunately, other than running it in a virtual machine of course. I'm also suggesting to the developer that he add in the ability to buy upgrades to your core character stats, so that you can actually progress your character over time in a true rpg style and also don't have to rely on the character editer. This option is available in the expanded graphical version of the main hall, but not in the text one unfortunately, so I hope he'll add it sinse it means you can start off with your randomly rolled stats, then improve as you play in a true rpg style. I'm not sure what he is planning to do about the dungeon design part of the program, though if this could be made accessible that might be great for people wanting to write textual rpgs. So, hopefuly this is mostly good news for everyone. Btw, if you don't know what eamon delux is, see the page on audiogames.net. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] RC aircraft - Re: a thought on the Shard Workshop project
Hi again. Have checked out some of the hovercraft on the banana hobby page you provided, these look real interesting and reasonably priced to boot. One thing I notice I do not see any brand names on the product descriptions so it will be kind of difficult to find youtube vides on specific ones. Do you have any of the listed models on there and if so what do you like and not like about them? Thanks again. Game on. Tom On Jan 3, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Trouble wrote: For a look at hovers, http://www.bananahobby.com/ At 02:31 PM 1/3/2012, you wrote: Hey Charles and all. The helis designed for indoor flying are mostly pretty small. I have a couple of them here that I've bought over the last few years, my Bladerunner has a rotor diameter of about 11 inches if memory serves and weighs in at about 55 grams would have to look at the manual to get exact specs. Last year I picked up one of the little Sima s107 microcopters they're basically a cheapy version of the Eflight micros. These have a rotor diameter of about 7 inches and they weigh in at about 35 grams or so so they are very very small. Yes you do need some space to fly these little things around, we have too much crap in our house and besides flying things tend to scare Xena our female green iguana so I tend to take my indoor craft either down to our rec room or over to a friend's place who has more room. The motors on these little things are easily audible so it is pretty easy to use the same type of hand-ear coordination that we develop in audio gaming to fly them, the difference is you definitely need to have good spatial concepts and be able to really understand what three dimensions means and be able to think quickly that way. Basically the first thing I try to work on if I haven't been flying for a while is to achieve a stable hover, you want to get the heli off the ground a bit so that your rotor wash does not cause too much turbulence and then try to hear if it is drifting, they do drift very easily despite the fact that most of them have an internal gyroscope and any air currents at all will cause this, then you have to apply a very slight amount with your directional stick to counter this movement. If you are a total which I am this is going to be challenging because you will not know which way to move your directional stick, e.g. you will not know if your heli is drifting forward, backward, or sideways. The best approach that I've found is to simply apply a bit of direction and see where it goes and be ready to correct quickly if you have guessed wrong. These little things are loads of fun if you have somewhere to fly them, so far as I'm concerned it's like gaming but even better in a way because you're actually controlling a real object instead of a virtual one. I've had a fascination with RC stuff most of my adult life but it's only since we are seeing the advent of digital radio control and these reasonably affordable products that I've been able to actually get into it. Having said that if you do decide to give this a go, I would recommend that you pick up one of the inexpensive ones to start with, something like the Sima helis are ok, they only run around 30 bucks or so on Amazon last time I checked. That way if you crack one up it isn't the end of the world. You can get better micros from companies like Eflight for instance, I am just about ready to upgrade to one of these, if you want strictly indoor flying then I am considering something like the MCX2. If you want something that you can fly outside too then maybe the CX2 would be worth looking at. There are of course way more expensive ones, you can spend hundreds and thousands of dollars on this hobby but since I don't have that kind of money to spend the ones I am talking about and the ones I buy are probably considered the less expensive ones, the bigger one, the CX is around 150 or so last time I checked. One nice thing about the better ones from Eflight, while the cheapy ones I have are really pretty much toys and if you break them that's it, the Eflight ones are really closer to an true RC model and you can get pretty much any spare parts you need if you do crash one. In short, RC stuff is loads of fun and there are definitely things that we can do in that hobby without sight. Besides my two helis I also have a bigger quadrocopter called an x-ufo and a couple of 1/24 scale rc tanks. RC hovercraft are something I'm really interested in but have not done much research on which ones are good to get so would be glad for any info on that. If anyone is interested in getting into this hobby I'd certainly be happy to talk about it further but we probably oughta do it off list since this isn't really gaming. Game on. Tom On Dec 22, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Charles Rivard wrote: Just curious: Indoor helicopters? I would think that
Re: [Audyssey] best SC vid yet!
To Dan... this music is definitely catchy. Gets me pumped for fighting... though honestly, if there's any game with a good soundtrack in this series, it would have to be soul calibur 3. That game, in my opinion, had the best score out of all six games. To Tom... this video was off gamespot, and that's primarily the reason why. If you watch a clip from a fighting games event, and then come back and watch this, you notice the difference easily... mostly because the players at said events are people who play almost exclusively fighting games, whereas the gamespot staff don't specialize in one category or another, so they learn the basics and more or less just mash away. It was easily to tell that when they reviewed King of fighters 13, if you watch the video review... the reviewer doesn't even land a basic combo. - Original Message - From: Tom Randall kf6...@comcast.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] best SC vid yet! Agreed this is another good one thanks for it. Yes I think I see what you mean about these players being slower than some of the other ones we've heard for this game. Definitely looking forward to this one. Game on. Tom On Jan 5, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Clement Chou wrote: Oh, my, gosh! This video is short, but juicy. The audio is shown in brilliance here. The music is nice and high up, and the sound effects are awesome. I don't think the people playing are all that skilled though... that seemed really slow to me. Enjoy! http://www.gamespot.com/soulcalibur-v/videos/soulcalibur-v-quick-battle-mode-6348213 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] soul calibur 3 quick battle and cinema
Just one fight from soul calibur 3 It was against Abyss... and one of the best fights I've ever had in this series. The gameplay isn't the best in this game, but the music is awesome as you'll see in both the fight and the ending. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] soul calibur 3 quick battle and cinema
Just one fight from soul calibur 3 It was against Abyss... and one of the best fights I've ever had in this series. The gameplay isn't the best in this game, but the music is awesome as you'll see in both the fight and the ending. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] soul calibur 3 quick battle and cinema
Just one fight from soul calibur 3 It was against Abyss... and one of the best fights I've ever had in this series. The gameplay isn't the best in this game, but the music is awesome as you'll see in both the fight and the ending. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] soul calibur 3 quick battle and cinema
Just one fight from soul calibur 3 It was against Abyss... and one of the best fights I've ever had in this series. The gameplay isn't the best in this game, but the music is awesome as you'll see in both the fight and the ending. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Eamon delux good and bad news
That is true michael, I should've specified 64 bit windows 7 rather than 32 bit when referring to the game not working. Beware the Gure! Dark. - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Eamon delux good and bad news Hello, Dark. I have Windows 7 32 bit, and I am able to run most of DOS games in the command prompt. So people could try to do that with the different DOS games. Sadly enough Windows 7 64 bit will not run any DOS games in the command prompt. From what I am understanding the developer that helped me to put De Steno Games on the iOS platform, is working on an emulator for the iOS that will be accessible with voice over. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story
Hi Thomas, Isn't it getting worse? There is The Guardian of Light which isn't a part of the main Tomb Raider series. And isn't there another game coming out, another Tomb Raider with a relaunch of the series with a totally different Lara or rather her story? What is that supposed to do if it is true? Does anyone know more about this thing? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story
I suppose you could say the same about Mega Man or Zelda. Most of them revive Ganon constantly or, in the case of Mega Man Dr. Wiley or Sigma. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. - Original Message - From: Michael Gauler michael.gau...@gmx.de To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story Hi Thomas, Isn't it getting worse? There is The Guardian of Light which isn't a part of the main Tomb Raider series. And isn't there another game coming out, another Tomb Raider with a relaunch of the series with a totally different Lara or rather her story? What is that supposed to do if it is true? Does anyone know more about this thing? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story
Hi tom. I know just what you mean sinse the same thing has been done with Zero in Capcom's mega man series, though if anything the excuses there are even more pathetic. In Mega man x 1, zero dies to destroy vile, one of the most unpleasant enemies in the game. X2 concerns a plot by several maveric's to rebuild zero and turn him against x, well fair enough, he is a robot afterall, and the fight against zero is pretty cool. So then Zero is back and is indeed playable in mega man x 3 and 4, where it's revealed he is actually the source of the maveric virus that sends robots insane. the series however was supposed to end with mega man x5, when all robots on earth have been turned maveric thanks to a crashing space colony spreading the virus all over the world. In a very cool plot twist zero gets reverted to his original virus state, but then gives up his life to finally destroy sigma and rid the world of the virus once and for all. Actually it's a pretty awsome scene all around. Creator of the series Inafune said things were supposed to end there, with zero eventually being rebuild 102 years in the future to find tat the utopian society his sacrifice created has become a corrupt dictatorship. However guess what, capcom wanted more x series games, so along comes mega man x 6 in which zero, - repared himself! yes repared! himself! The fact that he's the carrier of the virus is never mentioned again, and he's just in the game as a playable character. At the end of x6, Zero seals himself away for 102 years to go through a diagnostic to ridd himself of the virus, however guess what, in Mega man x 7, there he is! Capcom have said that the ending of mega man x 6 doesn't actually take place at the end of the game but apparently at some point in the future, though being as there is a lot of back story to the zero series that has to happen in betwene, and the rather pathetic new character axl and his plot about robots containing copy dna seems to have replaced the imho far cooler and original virus plot line, when exactly these events or even zero's 102 year sleep happen is anyone's guess. At least with x8 the main villain of the series, Sigma, who came back every game for some rather odd reason has finally bit the biscuit, though it wouldn't surprise me if capcom bring him back once again in some sort of similarly lame trick. By a rather ironic twist though, sinse after mega man x6 the series went into 3D and thus became unplayable for me, the 102 year ending happening at the end of x6 for me does! fit in quite nicely with the mega man zero series :D. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Eamon delux good and bad news
Hi tom. that makes sense. sinse the program is written in basic and was originally written for versions of windows in dos, I'm pretty sure it's a 16 bit application, which is precisely why the developer has had to add in dosbox as an option to run the thing, it's just bad luck dosbox won't work with screen readers. Stil, I'm glad that the dosbox component will be optional, sinse that leaves the possibility of running the game for those who have a working os or could run one virtually, where as if dosbox was compulsory it'd be just as inaccessible as running eamon on an apple emulator. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Eamon delux good and bad news Hi Dark, This is indeed good news. Depending on how Aeman is compiled it might run on Vista or windows 7. If it is a 16-bit application then it would run ok on 32-bit compatible versions of Vista/Windows 7 in 16-bit compatibility mode. If it is 16-bit and you have 64-bit Windows Vista/Windows 7 then it won't run. If it is 32-bit then it will run on all of the above. Make sense? Cheers! On 1/5/12, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi. Well I've had good news from the developer of eamon delux. he's now working on a vi compatibility mode which will nicely fix all the annoyences of the first version such as the display problems and menues that could only be read through highlighting, it's also a generally major bug fix which is handy. Dosbox is apparently going to be optional at install, so that you will stil be able to run the game in a dos console window. Of course the bad bit about this is that it probably won't run that way on windows vista or 7, but there's not a lot that can be done about that unfortunately, other than running it in a virtual machine of course. I'm also suggesting to the developer that he add in the ability to buy upgrades to your core character stats, so that you can actually progress your character over time in a true rpg style and also don't have to rely on the character editer. This option is available in the expanded graphical version of the main hall, but not in the text one unfortunately, so I hope he'll add it sinse it means you can start off with your randomly rolled stats, then improve as you play in a true rpg style. I'm not sure what he is planning to do about the dungeon design part of the program, though if this could be made accessible that might be great for people wanting to write textual rpgs. So, hopefuly this is mostly good news for everyone. Btw, if you don't know what eamon delux is, see the page on audiogames.net. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story
Well Bryan, Sigma has supposedly finally kicked the bucket in mega man x8, though of course sinse Zero was supposed to do that several times over it's not saying much. Also the copy chip plotline means that all new generation reploids contain sigma's dna so who knows? I will admit I never found the copy chip plot or the character of Axel too convincing, especially after how cool the virus plot was in previous x games. then again, lousy last minute reprieve or crazy resurrection plots aren't just in Mega man, I've been hugely disappointed with the past two series of dr. who. At the start of the last series you supposedly saw the doctor die (quite possible in a series with time travel). Then it eventually turns out you didn't see the doctor, it was a look alike robot! - honestly! a robotic clone! Never mind the fact you saw it start to regenerate or the fact that everyone thought it was the doctor, it was apparently a robot! NoI ws expecting some sort of cunning time travel paradox or similar, but no, it was a robot clone! Needless to say I had some choice remarks about Series writer Steven Mophat over that one. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] RC aircraft - Re: a thought on the Shard Workshop project
Don't have any of the models, but I do like the rubber skirt. The one I have is like the first one on list in size. One thing you have to keep in mind is they are the original drifters when it comes to turning. At 03:52 PM 1/5/2012, you wrote: Hi again. Have checked out some of the hovercraft on the banana hobby page you provided, these look real interesting and reasonably priced to boot. One thing I notice I do not see any brand names on the product descriptions so it will be kind of difficult to find youtube vides on specific ones. Do you have any of the listed models on there and if so what do you like and not like about them? Thanks again. Game on. Tom On Jan 3, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Trouble wrote: For a look at hovers, http://www.bananahobby.com/ At 02:31 PM 1/3/2012, you wrote: Hey Charles and all. The helis designed for indoor flying are mostly pretty small. I have a couple of them here that I've bought over the last few years, my Bladerunner has a rotor diameter of about 11 inches if memory serves and weighs in at about 55 grams would have to look at the manual to get exact specs. Last year I picked up one of the little Sima s107 microcopters they're basically a cheapy version of the Eflight micros. These have a rotor diameter of about 7 inches and they weigh in at about 35 grams or so so they are very very small. Yes you do need some space to fly these little things around, we have too much crap in our house and besides flying things tend to scare Xena our female green iguana so I tend to take my indoor craft either down to our rec room or over to a friend's place who has more room. The motors on these little things are easily audible so it is pretty easy to use the same type of hand-ear coordination that we develop in audio gaming to fly them, the difference is you definitely need to have good spatial concepts and be able to really understand what three dimensions means and be able to think quickly that way. Basically the first thing I try to work on if I haven't been flying for a while is to achieve a stable hover, you want to get the heli off the ground a bit so that your rotor wash does not cause too much turbulence and then try to hear if it is drifting, they do drift very easily despite the fact that most of them have an internal gyroscope and any air currents at all will cause this, then you have to apply a very slight amount with your directional stick to counter this movement. If you are a total which I am this is going to be challenging because you will not know which way to move your directional stick, e.g. you will not know if your heli is drifting forward, backward, or sideways. The best approach that I've found is to simply apply a bit of direction and see where it goes and be ready to correct quickly if you have guessed wrong. These little things are loads of fun if you have somewhere to fly them, so far as I'm concerned it's like gaming but even better in a way because you're actually controlling a real object instead of a virtual one. I've had a fascination with RC stuff most of my adult life but it's only since we are seeing the advent of digital radio control and these reasonably affordable products that I've been able to actually get into it. Having said that if you do decide to give this a go, I would recommend that you pick up one of the inexpensive ones to start with, something like the Sima helis are ok, they only run around 30 bucks or so on Amazon last time I checked. That way if you crack one up it isn't the end of the world. You can get better micros from companies like Eflight for instance, I am just about ready to upgrade to one of these, if you want strictly indoor flying then I am considering something like the MCX2. If you want something that you can fly outside too then maybe the CX2 would be worth looking at. There are of course way more expensive ones, you can spend hundreds and thousands of dollars on this hobby but since I don't have that kind of money to spend the ones I am talking about and the ones I buy are probably considered the less expensive ones, the bigger one, the CX is around 150 or so last time I checked. One nice thing about the better ones from Eflight, while the cheapy ones I have are really pretty much toys and if you break them that's it, the Eflight ones are really closer to an true RC model and you can get pretty much any spare parts you need if you do crash one. In short, RC stuff is loads of fun and there are definitely things that we can do in that hobby without sight. Besides my two helis I also have a bigger quadrocopter called an x-ufo and a couple of 1/24 scale rc tanks. RC hovercraft are something I'm really interested in but have not done much research on which ones are good to get so would be glad for any info on that. If anyone is interested in getting into this hobby I'd certainly be happy to talk about it further
Re: [Audyssey] RC aircraft - Re: a thought on the Shard Workshop project
Hi Charles, The indoor helicopters are too small to be flown outside, the wind will often cause them to crash, and the reason is because they are pretty small. The indoor models are not much bigger than a man's hand, roughly speaking, and are maybe 6 inches long and the propeller on top is about six to eight inches in diameter. Like I said they are pretty small and aren't big enough to handle a lot of air current or wind so they have to be flown indoors. As for flying them you can here them flying around so if you have a good idea where walls, doors, lamps, and things are you can usually avoid them. Although, I've misjudged that stuff a time or to and crashed my son's indoor helicopter into lamps, walls, doors, windows, and things like that plenty of times without any serious damage to either the helicopter or whatever it ran into. Cheers! On 12/22/11, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Just curious: Indoor helicopters? I would think that any flying craft needs a lot of space. How big are these helicopters?, and how do you navigate without smacking it into walls or ceiling without looking? It sounds like interesting fun! --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story
I'm just glad that to my knowledge they don't do that in the Final Fantasy series or at leas not often. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story Well Bryan, Sigma has supposedly finally kicked the bucket in mega man x8, though of course sinse Zero was supposed to do that several times over it's not saying much. Also the copy chip plotline means that all new generation reploids contain sigma's dna so who knows? I will admit I never found the copy chip plot or the character of Axel too convincing, especially after how cool the virus plot was in previous x games. then again, lousy last minute reprieve or crazy resurrection plots aren't just in Mega man, I've been hugely disappointed with the past two series of dr. who. At the start of the last series you supposedly saw the doctor die (quite possible in a series with time travel). Then it eventually turns out you didn't see the doctor, it was a look alike robot! - honestly! a robotic clone! Never mind the fact you saw it start to regenerate or the fact that everyone thought it was the doctor, it was apparently a robot! NoI ws expecting some sort of cunning time travel paradox or similar, but no, it was a robot clone! Needless to say I had some choice remarks about Series writer Steven Mophat over that one. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] RC aircraft - Re: a thought on the Shard Workshop project
Hi Tom, Smile. Oh, the topic is fine. Leave it on list. They may be toys, but there are certainly gaming aspects to RC toys that maybe you haven't thought about. For example, if you have a couple of RC race cars you can race them. That's certainly a game even if it isn't computer gaming specifically. Another application is RC planes. There are a number of RC planes and jets that fire toy missiles etc and I've seen people do some pretty decent mock air engagements with those things. Again, it isn't computer gaming, but the way the RC toys are used in that case could be gaming of sorts. Cheers! On 1/3/12, Tom Randall kf6...@comcast.net wrote: Hey Charles and all. The helis designed for indoor flying are mostly pretty small. I have a couple of them here that I've bought over the last few years, my Bladerunner has a rotor diameter of about 11 inches if memory serves and weighs in at about 55 grams would have to look at the manual to get exact specs. Last year I picked up one of the little Sima s107 microcopters they're basically a cheapy version of the Eflight micros. These have a rotor diameter of about 7 inches and they weigh in at about 35 grams or so so they are very very small. Yes you do need some space to fly these little things around, we have too much crap in our house and besides flying things tend to scare Xena our female green iguana so I tend to take my indoor craft either down to our rec room or over to a friend's place who has more room. The motors on these little things are easily audible so it is pretty easy to use the same type of hand-ear coordination that we develop in audio gaming to fly them, the difference is you definitely need to have good spatial concepts and be able to really understand what three dimensions means and be able to think quickly that way. Basically the first thing I try to work on if I haven't been flying for a while is to achieve a stable hover, you want to get the heli off the ground a bit so that your rotor wash does not cause too much turbulence and then try to hear if it is drifting, they do drift very easily despite the fact that most of them have an internal gyroscope and any air currents at all will cause this, then you have to apply a very slight amount with your directional stick to counter this movement. If you are a total which I am this is going to be challenging because you will not know which way to move your directional stick, e.g. you will not know if your heli is drifting forward, backward, or sideways. The best approach that I've found is to simply apply a bit of direction and see where it goes and be ready to correct quickly if you have guessed wrong. These little things are loads of fun if you have somewhere to fly them, so far as I'm concerned it's like gaming but even better in a way because you're actually controlling a real object instead of a virtual one. I've had a fascination with RC stuff most of my adult life but it's only since we are seeing the advent of digital radio control and these reasonably affordable products that I've been able to actually get into it. Having said that if you do decide to give this a go, I would recommend that you pick up one of the inexpensive ones to start with, something like the Sima helis are ok, they only run around 30 bucks or so on Amazon last time I checked. That way if you crack one up it isn't the end of the world. You can get better micros from companies like Eflight for instance, I am just about ready to upgrade to one of these, if you want strictly indoor flying then I am considering something like the MCX2. If you want something that you can fly outside too then maybe the CX2 would be worth looking at. There are of course way more expensive ones, you can spend hundreds and thousands of dollars on this hobby but since I don't have that kind of money to spend the ones I am talking about and the ones I buy are probably considered the less expensive ones, the bigger one, the CX is around 150 or so last time I checked. One nice thing about the better ones from Eflight, while the cheapy ones I have are really pretty much toys and if you break them that's it, the Eflight ones are really closer to an true RC model and you can get pretty much any spare parts you need if you do crash one. In short, RC stuff is loads of fun and there are definitely things that we can do in that hobby without sight. Besides my two helis I also have a bigger quadrocopter called an x-ufo and a couple of 1/24 scale rc tanks. RC hovercraft are something I'm really interested in but have not done much research on which ones are good to get so would be glad for any info on that. If anyone is interested in getting into this hobby I'd certainly be happy to talk about it further but we probably oughta do it off list since this isn't really gaming. Game on. Tom --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send
Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story
Hi Michael, Yes. Guardian of Light isn't officially a part of the Tomb Raider series, but its a decent stand alone game for what it is. I have owned and played almost every TR game available, and Guardian of Light is better than some. As for the new Tomb Raider game Edos is once again relaunching the series. The New game is simply called Tomb Raider 2012, apparently built on a new engine, and they are trying to basically reboot the series and get their fan base back. Which I don't really see happening. For one thing back in 96/97 Tomb Raider was a massive success. Shortly after the first two games came out they were selling games, the toy stores began selling Lara Croft action figures, and of course they even got a movie deal where Angelina Jolie played Lara Croft in the live action films. However, by 2003 it went straight to the toilet. Sales fell, the second movie didn't rake in as much money as the first one, the Lara Croft toys weren't selling and people lost interest. I think Edos has always wanted to get those gholden years back, but like so many things in life once gone its gone for good. I believe Edos is trying for a third time to relaunch the series, and it probably won't be any more successful than Tomb Raider Anniversary was. Although I admit Tomb Raider Anniversary was an awesome remake of the original. Better graphics and animations, better sound effects, they replaced the Uzi with the MP5 seen in the movies, better acting, etc. It was a great remake, but failed to reach their customer base. Cheers! On 1/5/12, Michael Gauler michael.gau...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Thomas, Isn't it getting worse? There is The Guardian of Light which isn't a part of the main Tomb Raider series. And isn't there another game coming out, another Tomb Raider with a relaunch of the series with a totally different Lara or rather her story? What is that supposed to do if it is true? Does anyone know more about this thing? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] RC aircraft - Re: a thought on the Shard Workshop project
Sense you like to shoot things, http://www.thinkrc.com/u810-missile-launching-35ch-fly-wolf-helicopter-gyro-and-sound-graphite-p-1436.html At 07:16 PM 1/5/2012, you wrote: Hi Tom, Smile. Oh, the topic is fine. Leave it on list. They may be toys, but there are certainly gaming aspects to RC toys that maybe you haven't thought about. For example, if you have a couple of RC race cars you can race them. That's certainly a game even if it isn't computer gaming specifically. Another application is RC planes. There are a number of RC planes and jets that fire toy missiles etc and I've seen people do some pretty decent mock air engagements with those things. Again, it isn't computer gaming, but the way the RC toys are used in that case could be gaming of sorts. Cheers! On 1/3/12, Tom Randall kf6...@comcast.net wrote: Hey Charles and all. The helis designed for indoor flying are mostly pretty small. I have a couple of them here that I've bought over the last few years, my Bladerunner has a rotor diameter of about 11 inches if memory serves and weighs in at about 55 grams would have to look at the manual to get exact specs. Last year I picked up one of the little Sima s107 microcopters they're basically a cheapy version of the Eflight micros. These have a rotor diameter of about 7 inches and they weigh in at about 35 grams or so so they are very very small. Yes you do need some space to fly these little things around, we have too much crap in our house and besides flying things tend to scare Xena our female green iguana so I tend to take my indoor craft either down to our rec room or over to a friend's place who has more room. The motors on these little things are easily audible so it is pretty easy to use the same type of hand-ear coordination that we develop in audio gaming to fly them, the difference is you definitely need to have good spatial concepts and be able to really understand what three dimensions means and be able to think quickly that way. Basically the first thing I try to work on if I haven't been flying for a while is to achieve a stable hover, you want to get the heli off the ground a bit so that your rotor wash does not cause too much turbulence and then try to hear if it is drifting, they do drift very easily despite the fact that most of them have an internal gyroscope and any air currents at all will cause this, then you have to apply a very slight amount with your directional stick to counter this movement. If you are a total which I am this is going to be challenging because you will not know which way to move your directional stick, e.g. you will not know if your heli is drifting forward, backward, or sideways. The best approach that I've found is to simply apply a bit of direction and see where it goes and be ready to correct quickly if you have guessed wrong. These little things are loads of fun if you have somewhere to fly them, so far as I'm concerned it's like gaming but even better in a way because you're actually controlling a real object instead of a virtual one. I've had a fascination with RC stuff most of my adult life but it's only since we are seeing the advent of digital radio control and these reasonably affordable products that I've been able to actually get into it. Having said that if you do decide to give this a go, I would recommend that you pick up one of the inexpensive ones to start with, something like the Sima helis are ok, they only run around 30 bucks or so on Amazon last time I checked. That way if you crack one up it isn't the end of the world. You can get better micros from companies like Eflight for instance, I am just about ready to upgrade to one of these, if you want strictly indoor flying then I am considering something like the MCX2. If you want something that you can fly outside too then maybe the CX2 would be worth looking at. There are of course way more expensive ones, you can spend hundreds and thousands of dollars on this hobby but since I don't have that kind of money to spend the ones I am talking about and the ones I buy are probably considered the less expensive ones, the bigger one, the CX is around 150 or so last time I checked. One nice thing about the better ones from Eflight, while the cheapy ones I have are really pretty much toys and if you break them that's it, the Eflight ones are really closer to an true RC model and you can get pretty much any spare parts you need if you do crash one. In short, RC stuff is loads of fun and there are definitely things that we can do in that hobby without sight. Besides my two helis I also have a bigger quadrocopter called an x-ufo and a couple of 1/24 scale rc tanks. RC hovercraft are something I'm really interested in but have not done much research on which ones are good to get so would be glad for any info on that. If anyone is interested in getting into this hobby I'd certainly be happy to talk
Re: [Audyssey] RC aircraft - Re: a thought on the Shard Workshop project
When you get to 4CH type. The smallest blade length is around 8 in and up to or better than 27 in. The bigger you go the less you have to worry about wind. You can have a lot of fun with the small one for cheep. At 07:05 PM 1/5/2012, you wrote: Hi Charles, The indoor helicopters are too small to be flown outside, the wind will often cause them to crash, and the reason is because they are pretty small. The indoor models are not much bigger than a man's hand, roughly speaking, and are maybe 6 inches long and the propeller on top is about six to eight inches in diameter. Like I said they are pretty small and aren't big enough to handle a lot of air current or wind so they have to be flown indoors. As for flying them you can here them flying around so if you have a good idea where walls, doors, lamps, and things are you can usually avoid them. Although, I've misjudged that stuff a time or to and crashed my son's indoor helicopter into lamps, walls, doors, windows, and things like that plenty of times without any serious damage to either the helicopter or whatever it ran into. Cheers! On 12/22/11, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Just curious: Indoor helicopters? I would think that any flying craft needs a lot of space. How big are these helicopters?, and how do you navigate without smacking it into walls or ceiling without looking? It sounds like interesting fun! --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] RC aircraft - Re: a thought on the Shard Workshop project
Hi Trouble, Sweet! This helicopter looks awesome. Although, I'd rather fly one of the U.S. militaries unmanned recon drones. Those things are frickin' awesome! On 1/5/12, Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com wrote: Sense you like to shoot things, http://www.thinkrc.com/u810-missile-launching-35ch-fly-wolf-helicopter-gyro-and-sound-graphite-p-1436.html --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] RC aircraft - Re: a thought on the Shard Workshop project
Hi Trouble, Yeah, I figured that. That's just basic physics there. The bigger the blades, and the heavier the helocopter, etc the more stable it will be in flight. The one I have was a Christmas present for my son, and it was meant to be an inexpensive gift. When he gets older we'll probably upgrade to a bigger more expensive model. Cheers! On 1/5/12, Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com wrote: When you get to 4CH type. The smallest blade length is around 8 in and up to or better than 27 in. The bigger you go the less you have to worry about wind. You can have a lot of fun with the small one for cheep. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any chance of making huge cave work with windows?
Hi Lisa, HNot sure about that. I haven't used a notetaker in so long I'm not sure what is and isn't compatible with something like a Voicenote or Braillenote. I think those notetakers use a modified version of Windows CE, and if so there is probably an accessible frotz interpreter floating around somewhere. Cheers! On 1/4/12, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote: oH cool i wonder if the voicenote and braillenote will run them. Thanks thomas. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any chance of making huge cave work with windows?
Hi Thomas, Actually, because of the way Keysoft actually is the interface, there isn't actually anaccessible Frotz. What Humanware did was modify the Jzip interpreter for use with IF games. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 7:09 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any chance of making huge cave work with windows? Hi Lisa, HNot sure about that. I haven't used a notetaker in so long I'm not sure what is and isn't compatible with something like a Voicenote or Braillenote. I think those notetakers use a modified version of Windows CE, and if so there is probably an accessible frotz interpreter floating around somewhere. Cheers! On 1/4/12, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote: oH cool i wonder if the voicenote and braillenote will run them. Thanks thomas. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1416 / Virus Database: 2109/4124 - Release Date: 01/05/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Adult Games was Huge Cave
Hi Jim, Oh, yeah. I always get a laugh or two out of playing Tripple J Shooter. Actually, I wish there were more accessible adult games like that around, because its an area largely untapped by developers. For example, my dad has a game called Strip Poker. You select the girl you want to play against, play poker, and if you win you get to see her pose totally in the nude. Now, obviously you and I couldn't see that, but descriptions of what she looks like naked could be just as erotic. Its a game I've thought about adapting for the blind as it would be kind of cool to have. Cheers! On 1/5/12, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Thomas, Yeah, maybe not as involved as your adult test speech program, but I sure had allot of fun programming all of the random descriptions for my Triple J Shooter game. grin BFN --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Adult Games was Huge Cave
Hey tom and all. on the topic of strip poker I think it would be able to be adapted to the blind if you had either a real stripper there lol or a tactile version of one lol. that is also another reason why it boggles my mind that they have issues of Braille playboy lol since no one reads that for the articles lol that is like saying I watch porn for the acting lol. well this is just my 2 sense worth on this topic. as for the accessible adult games I to wish that there were allot more out there. from Mich. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:21 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Adult Games was Huge Cave Hi Jim, Oh, yeah. I always get a laugh or two out of playing Tripple J Shooter. Actually, I wish there were more accessible adult games like that around, because its an area largely untapped by developers. For example, my dad has a game called Strip Poker. You select the girl you want to play against, play poker, and if you win you get to see her pose totally in the nude. Now, obviously you and I couldn't see that, but descriptions of what she looks like naked could be just as erotic. Its a game I've thought about adapting for the blind as it would be kind of cool to have. Cheers! On 1/5/12, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Thomas, Yeah, maybe not as involved as your adult test speech program, but I sure had allot of fun programming all of the random descriptions for my Triple J Shooter game. grin BFN --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story
HI Thomas, I would've said her name, although I would've been embarrassed at my attempt of spelling it: it's been so long since I've seen the name in question. Glad I got it. Dio I get a free copy? Lol! Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:19 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story Can we do something about her bad breath? Don't give a spoiler, just a yes or no. Maybe water or a fire extinguisher if there is one, which I doubt, because that would be too easy, unless there are other difficulties. (grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story Hi Hayden, Ah, yes. You've got a good start on discovering her identity. At least her animal form if not her name. Well,since you've gotten that far I'll be a good sport and let you know it is Sekhmet the goddess of war and medicine. She is often shown as a lioness with fire coming out of her mouth. She brings healing to her allies and death and destruction to her enemies. One of the reasons I selected her is because she is a shapeshifter. She can take on the body of a lioness, or take human form and carve you into pieces with a sword. That means during the course of a battle she might change forms on you and you'll be fighting a fire breathing lioness, or she might shift into human form and swing a heavy bronze sword at your head. I expect the fight will be extremely difficult but fun. Definitely way cooler than fighting Athena eh? Cheers! On 1/4/12, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: HI, The only major female I can think of as of now is the lioness goddess, and that would be something of a fight: although, I'll keep thinking of other possibilities. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1416 / Virus Database: 2109/4124 - Release Date: 01/05/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story
HI, What do you call that, School Hunter, Mysteries of the Fountain? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Clement Chou Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 11:43 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story When you've developed MOTA fully, you will need to take a break and then make a parody game... instead of mercenaries Angela will be spraying kids with a water pistol... and the head man will be the principle of the school she's ransacking for the mystical fountain pen or something. Yikes... terrible dialog is always bad, but sometimes... you can't help but laugh. Resident Evil had some pretty cheesy lines too. By the way... that hot air line? Classic. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story Hi, Lol! Omg. That would be funny. I can see some pretty bad but humorous dialog coming out of that scene too. Angela, I tthought I got rid of you. Your nothing but a pest. Arthur, you know I'm like a bad penny. I always turn up. I'll kill you again, and again, and again if need be. Oh, I don't think that's so easy my dear. muahahaha. I'm a god! Believing oneself is a god is a sign of mental instability. I suppose after being killed by me about ten times has turned your brains to mush. Oh, I forgot. You haven't got a brain. The last time I killed you I put a bullet through your forehead. The only thing behind your ears is a lot of hot air. Now, get a British actress to deliver those lines, someone who sounds like Lara Croft, and you have a really funny but bent cutscene. Lol! Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1416 / Virus Database: 2109/4124 - Release Date: 01/05/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Randomisation in Games was Huge Cave
HI Dark, Definitely. I have to admit Entombed has drastically redefined my concept of a roguelike RPG game let alone improved my idea of what elements to add to my future games. For instance, I've been thinking for years of doing a Star Trek RPG game, like the paper and pen games, only in software form with sound effects. One way to make a game like that interesting is to write multiple descriptions for combat scenes,and write character specific random events. Let's say the Enterprise is heavily damaged in a battle and the warp core is breached. If you are playing La Forge it will be your deuty to take the turbolift down to main engineering, fix the warp core leak, and save the ship. In another version of that fight maybe the photon torpedo bays are damaged, or the phasers go off line. In either case you'll have to take immediate action to fix it, and the solution for each might be different. If you play a different character like Dr. Crusher yyou'll play a variation on the same events. Instead of having to fix the warp core one of the engineers like Ensign Sonia Gomez might be knocked unconscious by the blast, and as CMO you'll have to go to engineering and provide emergency medical treatment. In another case you might be in sickbay when an anonymous crewman gets caried in by the med team and you have to go to work reviving him/her. There is litterally endless replay value in a game like that. Even if I only made the game in text the replay value alone would make it extremely entertaining. Entombed has shown me being able to play the same mission or adventure from a different character's point of view and with a lot of random elements its hard to wear the game out. Cheers! On 1/4/12, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. while I'm not really a fan of adult games this is exactly what I meant. This is one of the things that entombed does well, all the weapons, the groups of monsters you fight and the quests you get are randomized. i'm only sorry the game doesn't have random environmental affects and descriptions to go with these, - though this has certainly been an idea floated around on the entombed list and hopefully something jasan would considder. Even a very basic hack and slash dungeon adventure can be made interesting if the descriptions, loot and monsters are tweaked just a litle bit. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story
Hi Hayden, Lol! Sorry, no prises for guessing correctly. Although, given Sekhmet's character I'm not really surprised you guessed it. For one thing Sekhmet has been getting more and more popular in the mainstream.Just last year or so a new series of books called the Sekhmet's Light trilogy came out. Only two of the three initial books have been published so far, but its getting a lot of good book reviews and public attention right now. If you don't know about the Sekhmet's Light books the basic story is about this woman Nicole who is selected by Sekhmet to be her avatar in the modern world. Like Wonder Woman and other super heroes she has a number of special powers and abilities that helps her fight villains and kick butt and take names later. Which is beginning to be a cool series so far. However, the point I want to make is that Sekhmet is beginning to make appearances in video games, books, and movies. More and more people are aware of her, and I'm not surprised she'd come to mind. Cheers! On 1/5/12, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: HI Thomas, I would've said her name, although I would've been embarrassed at my attempt of spelling it: it's been so long since I've seen the name in question. Glad I got it. Dio I get a free copy? Lol! Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Adult Games was Huge Cave
That reminded me of something my dad used to tell me when I was younger. It actually got on my nerves since I never really went through a phase where I was obsessed with that sort of thing. But he told me we were going to go to a nude bar when I turned eighteen and then sue them for not having a braille section. Got on my nerves after te first few times actually. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. - Original Message - From: Mich mi...@eastlink.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Adult Games was Huge Cave Hey tom and all. on the topic of strip poker I think it would be able to be adapted to the blind if you had either a real stripper there lol or a tactile version of one lol. that is also another reason why it boggles my mind that they have issues of Braille playboy lol since no one reads that for the articles lol that is like saying I watch porn for the acting lol. well this is just my 2 sense worth on this topic. as for the accessible adult games I to wish that there were allot more out there. from Mich. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:21 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Adult Games was Huge Cave Hi Jim, Oh, yeah. I always get a laugh or two out of playing Tripple J Shooter. Actually, I wish there were more accessible adult games like that around, because its an area largely untapped by developers. For example, my dad has a game called Strip Poker. You select the girl you want to play against, play poker, and if you win you get to see her pose totally in the nude. Now, obviously you and I couldn't see that, but descriptions of what she looks like naked could be just as erotic. Its a game I've thought about adapting for the blind as it would be kind of cool to have. Cheers! On 1/5/12, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Thomas, Yeah, maybe not as involved as your adult test speech program, but I sure had allot of fun programming all of the random descriptions for my Triple J Shooter game. grin BFN --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
Hi Dark, Those are some good points. However, as you pointed out some times it is really really really hard to convey a concept or certain activity in audio alone. For example, one of the things I'm having difficulty with is staircases in the new Tomb Hunter game. Normally the staircase would be cut out of the same limestone as the floors and the blocks that the walls are made out of. That's all well and fine for realism, but from an audio game perspective how do I identify the sound of the staircase from the normal floor without using a totally different surface type. I can't simply use wood, because it was pretty rare in ancient Egypt. Nor would metal, sand, dirt, etc work. I've got other stone step sounds, but none quite as good as those I am using. So I'm sort of stumped how to identify by sound alone that this is a stone staircase and not a part of the floor. I'll probably have to solve that problem by acquiring some alternative stone footstep sounds. While solving something like the stone staircases verses the stone floor has a fairly easy solution some things like replacing a bouncing skull in Montezuma's Revenge isn't immediately apparent. Sometimes the developer just isn't that creative, or an alternative solution didn't occur to him/her. I know I didn't think about the crushers until you mentioned it just now. I just removed the bouncing/jumping skulls, and replaced them with normal ones. Problem solved, but didn't replace it with something equally difficult though. However, if there is a balance to the bouncing skulls in the unreleased levels, levels 7-12, the skulls were invincible. You couldn't destroy them with a sword, and it was pretty dang hard to get through some of those levels. So that probably balanced out and made up for the bouncing skulls. Cheers! On 1/5/12, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. I've actually often thought part of the problem in the developement of some games is that when some mainstream concept is not possible for whatever reason, it seems to be just missed out rather than replaced by something to maintain the complexity. for instance in original duckhunt you tracked the ducks flying diagonally on a large playing field with a light gun, but in Liam's port you just track them in sterrio and not verticlly. Well obviously tracking with a light gun the same as the original game is not possible, but why not add in something else to compensate, - for instance have the ducks need to be targited vertically like the gorbian ships in troop 2, or add in a distance factor so that you need to hit the ducks directly in the center of the field and get points accordingly. similarly, in your original monti game, so we can't have bouncing skulls, well why not put in another hazard that falls from above which you need to simply avoid, such as some crushes that hammer down from the cieling intermitantly like the fwomps in mario, sinse avoiding these and! jumping a skull at the same time would offer a similar spacial exercize to the bouncing skull. Of course, i know part of this is because developing games is simply difficult, and that a sterrio field does not naturally hold as much information as a visual one meaning that extra complexity requires extra coding, but stil I think it'd be something worth thinking about when creating an action game, how to introduce multiple factors the player needs to judge into the mix so that the game does not devolve into boppit. Pipe 2 is a good example of an attempt at this, though even there I think more could've been added, for instance more directional hazards similar to lectricity on pipe levels which you needed to be aware of. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
Clement, you and I think quite similarly. you can fight a CPU all day, but nothing's as hard to conquer as another human being. I've been playing lots of MK online lately, especially against some friends, and man some of those fights came down to the wire. we literally had 1 hit left before we died, and there were these tense 10-15 seconds where it was all about blocking and dodging. we had our mics on and you hear people panting and things. whoever hears us would think we're running a marathon hahaha. when someone finally 1, lots of screaming ensued. we really get into it and it's totally freakin awesome! call it just pixels on screen, cartoon characters, whatever you like. but man when I'm done with some of those gaming sessions I'm all sweating like a freaking animal hahaha. couple weeks back we had this mk session that lasted 6 hours! - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Simple and predictable is not the same thing. Sure a yo-yo is simple to use, but if it can get a bit unpredictable if you move it in a way it shouldn't be moved. In audio games, everything is the same. In Judgement day if a helicopter is flying towards you, it'll always be the same. There's no variations on amount of hits needed to stop it, or even in its trajectory. The planes are the same. They move from left to right, and when you shoot them they make little adjustments which while bothersome, doesn't really make for any challenge. Not to say JD isn't a bad game... it's fun. And simple yet hard to master games should be more abundant as well. Street fighter 4, for example, is easy to pick up and play, and to grasp basic things like combos and commands. But to really get good at it, you need to look deeper into the engine. Where each combo can be used, just how risky is throwing out that move, etc. Which is why I like fighting games so much... they're the only kinds of games we can play fully, yet they're so unpredictable especially against human opponents. If I jump, is he going to uppercut me out of the air? If I throw a super, is there a way for me to stop him blocking it so I guarantee a hit without wasting my meter? A lot of the time I play online is spent thinking, oh crap, he's rashing towards me. Is he going to throw out a low attack which requires a different block command than a regular attack? Is he going to go for an unblockable throw? It's that kind of complexity that audio games lack and need to develop. It's always been amazing to me how two bunches of picksals and polygons beating each other up on a screen can be so complex. Sure you may say it's like a real fight, but it's a video game... the real thing takes all that into account and more. I just find fighting games so much simpler than most of people give them credit for. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story
HI, Darn...I was hopin. Grin Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:01 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story Hi Hayden, Lol! Sorry, no prises for guessing correctly. Although, given Sekhmet's character I'm not really surprised you guessed it. For one thing Sekhmet has been getting more and more popular in the mainstream.Just last year or so a new series of books called the Sekhmet's Light trilogy came out. Only two of the three initial books have been published so far, but its getting a lot of good book reviews and public attention right now. If you don't know about the Sekhmet's Light books the basic story is about this woman Nicole who is selected by Sekhmet to be her avatar in the modern world. Like Wonder Woman and other super heroes she has a number of special powers and abilities that helps her fight villains and kick butt and take names later. Which is beginning to be a cool series so far. However, the point I want to make is that Sekhmet is beginning to make appearances in video games, books, and movies. More and more people are aware of her, and I'm not surprised she'd come to mind. Cheers! On 1/5/12, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: HI Thomas, I would've said her name, although I would've been embarrassed at my attempt of spelling it: it's been so long since I've seen the name in question. Glad I got it. Dio I get a free copy? Lol! Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1416 / Virus Database: 2109/4124 - Release Date: 01/05/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] staircase indication - Re: Mysteries of the Ancients News
For indicating stairs, I immediately thought of having the character breathe a bit, as if using energy to climb or descend them, although that might not work. It wouldn't let you know they are there before you decide to use them. How about having the character speak when she sees stairs? Something like, Ah. stairs going up or Ah, stairs going down wouldn't take long or probably wouldn't detract from the game. Just thinking out loud. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Hi Dark, Those are some good points. However, as you pointed out some times it is really really really hard to convey a concept or certain activity in audio alone. For example, one of the things I'm having difficulty with is staircases in the new Tomb Hunter game. Normally the staircase would be cut out of the same limestone as the floors and the blocks that the walls are made out of. That's all well and fine for realism, but from an audio game perspective how do I identify the sound of the staircase from the normal floor without using a totally different surface type. I can't simply use wood, because it was pretty rare in ancient Egypt. Nor would metal, sand, dirt, etc work. I've got other stone step sounds, but none quite as good as those I am using. So I'm sort of stumped how to identify by sound alone that this is a stone staircase and not a part of the floor. I'll probably have to solve that problem by acquiring some alternative stone footstep sounds. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Adult Games was Huge Cave
Hi Bryan, Lol! I can definitely see why that would get on your nerves. Its bad enough that you can't see it, but even worse to have it constantly rubbed in your face. Plus strip clubs have a hands off policy to protect the girls from unwanted groping and drunken guys feeling them up all night. Guys, even blind guys, need to respect those rules. On 1/5/12, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: That reminded me of something my dad used to tell me when I was younger. It actually got on my nerves since I never really went through a phase where I was obsessed with that sort of thing. But he told me we were going to go to a nude bar when I turned eighteen and then sue them for not having a braille section. Got on my nerves after te first few times actually. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
IS THERE ANY ACCESSIBLE mk ONLINE GAMES YOU CAN PLAY WITH PC? - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Clement, you and I think quite similarly. you can fight a CPU all day, but nothing's as hard to conquer as another human being. I've been playing lots of MK online lately, especially against some friends, and man some of those fights came down to the wire. we literally had 1 hit left before we died, and there were these tense 10-15 seconds where it was all about blocking and dodging. we had our mics on and you hear people panting and things. whoever hears us would think we're running a marathon hahaha. when someone finally 1, lots of screaming ensued. we really get into it and it's totally freakin awesome! call it just pixels on screen, cartoon characters, whatever you like. but man when I'm done with some of those gaming sessions I'm all sweating like a freaking animal hahaha. couple weeks back we had this mk session that lasted 6 hours! - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Simple and predictable is not the same thing. Sure a yo-yo is simple to use, but if it can get a bit unpredictable if you move it in a way it shouldn't be moved. In audio games, everything is the same. In Judgement day if a helicopter is flying towards you, it'll always be the same. There's no variations on amount of hits needed to stop it, or even in its trajectory. The planes are the same. They move from left to right, and when you shoot them they make little adjustments which while bothersome, doesn't really make for any challenge. Not to say JD isn't a bad game... it's fun. And simple yet hard to master games should be more abundant as well. Street fighter 4, for example, is easy to pick up and play, and to grasp basic things like combos and commands. But to really get good at it, you need to look deeper into the engine. Where each combo can be used, just how risky is throwing out that move, etc. Which is why I like fighting games so much... they're the only kinds of games we can play fully, yet they're so unpredictable especially against human opponents. If I jump, is he going to uppercut me out of the air? If I throw a super, is there a way for me to stop him blocking it so I guarantee a hit without wasting my meter? A lot of the time I play online is spent thinking, oh crap, he's rashing towards me. Is he going to throw out a low attack which requires a different block command than a regular attack? Is he going to go for an unblockable throw? It's that kind of complexity that audio games lack and need to develop. It's always been amazing to me how two bunches of picksals and polygons beating each other up on a screen can be so complex. Sure you may say it's like a real fight, but it's a video game... the real thing takes all that into account and more. I just find fighting games so much simpler than most of people give them credit for. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
nothing good. give up your pcs people! else you'll never play anything worthwhile. you guys have been waiting for an mk port for pc for years, and it hasn't happened. what makes anyone think it'll happen any time soon? questions along the lines of does this or that exist on PC? can get rather irritating. just get a console and you'll be able to play anything you want. - Original Message - From: joseph weakland josephweakl...@att.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News IS THERE ANY ACCESSIBLE mk ONLINE GAMES YOU CAN PLAY WITH PC? - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Clement, you and I think quite similarly. you can fight a CPU all day, but nothing's as hard to conquer as another human being. I've been playing lots of MK online lately, especially against some friends, and man some of those fights came down to the wire. we literally had 1 hit left before we died, and there were these tense 10-15 seconds where it was all about blocking and dodging. we had our mics on and you hear people panting and things. whoever hears us would think we're running a marathon hahaha. when someone finally 1, lots of screaming ensued. we really get into it and it's totally freakin awesome! call it just pixels on screen, cartoon characters, whatever you like. but man when I'm done with some of those gaming sessions I'm all sweating like a freaking animal hahaha. couple weeks back we had this mk session that lasted 6 hours! - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Simple and predictable is not the same thing. Sure a yo-yo is simple to use, but if it can get a bit unpredictable if you move it in a way it shouldn't be moved. In audio games, everything is the same. In Judgement day if a helicopter is flying towards you, it'll always be the same. There's no variations on amount of hits needed to stop it, or even in its trajectory. The planes are the same. They move from left to right, and when you shoot them they make little adjustments which while bothersome, doesn't really make for any challenge. Not to say JD isn't a bad game... it's fun. And simple yet hard to master games should be more abundant as well. Street fighter 4, for example, is easy to pick up and play, and to grasp basic things like combos and commands. But to really get good at it, you need to look deeper into the engine. Where each combo can be used, just how risky is throwing out that move, etc. Which is why I like fighting games so much... they're the only kinds of games we can play fully, yet they're so unpredictable especially against human opponents. If I jump, is he going to uppercut me out of the air? If I throw a super, is there a way for me to stop him blocking it so I guarantee a hit without wasting my meter? A lot of the time I play online is spent thinking, oh crap, he's rashing towards me. Is he going to throw out a low attack which requires a different block command than a regular attack? Is he going to go for an unblockable throw? It's that kind of complexity that audio games lack and need to develop. It's always been amazing to me how two bunches of picksals and polygons beating each other up on a screen can be so complex. Sure you may say it's like a real fight, but it's a video game... the real thing takes all that into account and more. I just find fighting games so much simpler than most of people give them credit for. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
Except that not everybody can afford consoles. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News nothing good. give up your pcs people! else you'll never play anything worthwhile. you guys have been waiting for an mk port for pc for years, and it hasn't happened. what makes anyone think it'll happen any time soon? questions along the lines of does this or that exist on PC? can get rather irritating. just get a console and you'll be able to play anything you want. - Original Message - From: joseph weakland josephweakl...@att.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News IS THERE ANY ACCESSIBLE mk ONLINE GAMES YOU CAN PLAY WITH PC? - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Clement, you and I think quite similarly. you can fight a CPU all day, but nothing's as hard to conquer as another human being. I've been playing lots of MK online lately, especially against some friends, and man some of those fights came down to the wire. we literally had 1 hit left before we died, and there were these tense 10-15 seconds where it was all about blocking and dodging. we had our mics on and you hear people panting and things. whoever hears us would think we're running a marathon hahaha. when someone finally 1, lots of screaming ensued. we really get into it and it's totally freakin awesome! call it just pixels on screen, cartoon characters, whatever you like. but man when I'm done with some of those gaming sessions I'm all sweating like a freaking animal hahaha. couple weeks back we had this mk session that lasted 6 hours! - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Simple and predictable is not the same thing. Sure a yo-yo is simple to use, but if it can get a bit unpredictable if you move it in a way it shouldn't be moved. In audio games, everything is the same. In Judgement day if a helicopter is flying towards you, it'll always be the same. There's no variations on amount of hits needed to stop it, or even in its trajectory. The planes are the same. They move from left to right, and when you shoot them they make little adjustments which while bothersome, doesn't really make for any challenge. Not to say JD isn't a bad game... it's fun. And simple yet hard to master games should be more abundant as well. Street fighter 4, for example, is easy to pick up and play, and to grasp basic things like combos and commands. But to really get good at it, you need to look deeper into the engine. Where each combo can be used, just how risky is throwing out that move, etc. Which is why I like fighting games so much... they're the only kinds of games we can play fully, yet they're so unpredictable especially against human opponents. If I jump, is he going to uppercut me out of the air? If I throw a super, is there a way for me to stop him blocking it so I guarantee a hit without wasting my meter? A lot of the time I play online is spent thinking, oh crap, he's rashing towards me. Is he going to throw out a low attack which requires a different block command than a regular attack? Is he going to go for an unblockable throw? It's that kind of complexity that audio games lack and need to develop. It's always been amazing to me how two bunches of picksals and polygons beating each other up on a screen can be so complex. Sure you may say it's like a real fight, but it's a video game... the real thing takes all that into account and more. I just find fighting games so much simpler than most of people give them credit for. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be
Re: [Audyssey] Any chance of making huge cave work with windows?
I have some games here bears night out, a form of adventure and others. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any chance of making huge cave work with windows? Hi Lisa, HNot sure about that. I haven't used a notetaker in so long I'm not sure what is and isn't compatible with something like a Voicenote or Braillenote. I think those notetakers use a modified version of Windows CE, and if so there is probably an accessible frotz interpreter floating around somewhere. Cheers! On 1/4/12, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote: oH cool i wonder if the voicenote and braillenote will run them. Thanks thomas. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story
School hunters 1: mystery of the pink pen. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story HI, What do you call that, School Hunter, Mysteries of the Fountain? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Clement Chou Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 11:43 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story When you've developed MOTA fully, you will need to take a break and then make a parody game... instead of mercenaries Angela will be spraying kids with a water pistol... and the head man will be the principle of the school she's ransacking for the mystical fountain pen or something. Yikes... terrible dialog is always bad, but sometimes... you can't help but laugh. Resident Evil had some pretty cheesy lines too. By the way... that hot air line? Classic. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story Hi, Lol! Omg. That would be funny. I can see some pretty bad but humorous dialog coming out of that scene too. Angela, I tthought I got rid of you. Your nothing but a pest. Arthur, you know I'm like a bad penny. I always turn up. I'll kill you again, and again, and again if need be. Oh, I don't think that's so easy my dear. muahahaha. I'm a god! Believing oneself is a god is a sign of mental instability. I suppose after being killed by me about ten times has turned your brains to mush. Oh, I forgot. You haven't got a brain. The last time I killed you I put a bullet through your forehead. The only thing behind your ears is a lot of hot air. Now, get a British actress to deliver those lines, someone who sounds like Lara Croft, and you have a really funny but bent cutscene. Lol! Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1416 / Virus Database: 2109/4124 - Release Date: 01/05/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
Could there be a bit more echo in the case of stairs? As I see it, having been underground in a mine... the main tunnels don't echo much. But get to a staircase, and there's just this tiny bit of echo that lets you know that the tunnel is opening on a stairwell on the left. Just a thought. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Hi Dark, Those are some good points. However, as you pointed out some times it is really really really hard to convey a concept or certain activity in audio alone. For example, one of the things I'm having difficulty with is staircases in the new Tomb Hunter game. Normally the staircase would be cut out of the same limestone as the floors and the blocks that the walls are made out of. That's all well and fine for realism, but from an audio game perspective how do I identify the sound of the staircase from the normal floor without using a totally different surface type. I can't simply use wood, because it was pretty rare in ancient Egypt. Nor would metal, sand, dirt, etc work. I've got other stone step sounds, but none quite as good as those I am using. So I'm sort of stumped how to identify by sound alone that this is a stone staircase and not a part of the floor. I'll probably have to solve that problem by acquiring some alternative stone footstep sounds. While solving something like the stone staircases verses the stone floor has a fairly easy solution some things like replacing a bouncing skull in Montezuma's Revenge isn't immediately apparent. Sometimes the developer just isn't that creative, or an alternative solution didn't occur to him/her. I know I didn't think about the crushers until you mentioned it just now. I just removed the bouncing/jumping skulls, and replaced them with normal ones. Problem solved, but didn't replace it with something equally difficult though. However, if there is a balance to the bouncing skulls in the unreleased levels, levels 7-12, the skulls were invincible. You couldn't destroy them with a sword, and it was pretty dang hard to get through some of those levels. So that probably balanced out and made up for the bouncing skulls. Cheers! On 1/5/12, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. I've actually often thought part of the problem in the developement of some games is that when some mainstream concept is not possible for whatever reason, it seems to be just missed out rather than replaced by something to maintain the complexity. for instance in original duckhunt you tracked the ducks flying diagonally on a large playing field with a light gun, but in Liam's port you just track them in sterrio and not verticlly. Well obviously tracking with a light gun the same as the original game is not possible, but why not add in something else to compensate, - for instance have the ducks need to be targited vertically like the gorbian ships in troop 2, or add in a distance factor so that you need to hit the ducks directly in the center of the field and get points accordingly. similarly, in your original monti game, so we can't have bouncing skulls, well why not put in another hazard that falls from above which you need to simply avoid, such as some crushes that hammer down from the cieling intermitantly like the fwomps in mario, sinse avoiding these and! jumping a skull at the same time would offer a similar spacial exercize to the bouncing skull. Of course, i know part of this is because developing games is simply difficult, and that a sterrio field does not naturally hold as much information as a visual one meaning that extra complexity requires extra coding, but stil I think it'd be something worth thinking about when creating an action game, how to introduce multiple factors the player needs to judge into the mix so that the game does not devolve into boppit. Pipe 2 is a good example of an attempt at this, though even there I think more could've been added, for instance more directional hazards similar to lectricity on pipe levels which you needed to be aware of. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are
Re: [Audyssey] fighting games (was): Mysteries of the Ancients News
- Original Message - From: joseph weakland josephweakl...@att.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News IS THERE ANY ACCESSIBLE mk ONLINE GAMES YOU CAN PLAY WITH PC? - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Clement, you and I think quite similarly. you can fight a CPU all day, but nothing's as hard to conquer as another human being. I've been playing lots of MK online lately, especially against some friends, and man some of those fights came down to the wire. we literally had 1 hit left before we died, and there were these tense 10-15 seconds where it was all about blocking and dodging. we had our mics on and you hear people panting and things. whoever hears us would think we're running a marathon hahaha. when someone finally 1, lots of screaming ensued. we really get into it and it's totally freakin awesome! call it just pixels on screen, cartoon characters, whatever you like. but man when I'm done with some of those gaming sessions I'm all sweating like a freaking animal hahaha. couple weeks back we had this mk session that lasted 6 hours! - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Simple and predictable is not the same thing. Sure a yo-yo is simple to use, but if it can get a bit unpredictable if you move it in a way it shouldn't be moved. In audio games, everything is the same. In Judgement day if a helicopter is flying towards you, it'll always be the same. There's no variations on amount of hits needed to stop it, or even in its trajectory. The planes are the same. They move from left to right, and when you shoot them they make little adjustments which while bothersome, doesn't really make for any challenge. Not to say JD isn't a bad game... it's fun. And simple yet hard to master games should be more abundant as well. Street fighter 4, for example, is easy to pick up and play, and to grasp basic things like combos and commands. But to really get good at it, you need to look deeper into the engine. Where each combo can be used, just how risky is throwing out that move, etc. Which is why I like fighting games so much... they're the only kinds of games we can play fully, yet they're so unpredictable especially against human opponents. If I jump, is he going to uppercut me out of the air? If I throw a super, is there a way for me to stop him blocking it so I guarantee a hit without wasting my meter? A lot of the time I play online is spent thinking, oh crap, he's rashing towards me. Is he going to throw out a low attack which requires a different block command than a regular attack? Is he going to go for an unblockable throw? It's that kind of complexity that audio games lack and need to develop. It's always been amazing to me how two bunches of picksals and polygons beating each other up on a screen can be so complex. Sure you may say it's like a real fight, but it's a video game... the real thing takes all that into account and more. I just find fighting games so much simpler than most of people give them credit for. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
Yohandy, you need to consider that not everyone can fork out a couple hundred bucks for a console... plus however much games would cost. - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News nothing good. give up your pcs people! else you'll never play anything worthwhile. you guys have been waiting for an mk port for pc for years, and it hasn't happened. what makes anyone think it'll happen any time soon? questions along the lines of does this or that exist on PC? can get rather irritating. just get a console and you'll be able to play anything you want. - Original Message - From: joseph weakland josephweakl...@att.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News IS THERE ANY ACCESSIBLE mk ONLINE GAMES YOU CAN PLAY WITH PC? - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Clement, you and I think quite similarly. you can fight a CPU all day, but nothing's as hard to conquer as another human being. I've been playing lots of MK online lately, especially against some friends, and man some of those fights came down to the wire. we literally had 1 hit left before we died, and there were these tense 10-15 seconds where it was all about blocking and dodging. we had our mics on and you hear people panting and things. whoever hears us would think we're running a marathon hahaha. when someone finally 1, lots of screaming ensued. we really get into it and it's totally freakin awesome! call it just pixels on screen, cartoon characters, whatever you like. but man when I'm done with some of those gaming sessions I'm all sweating like a freaking animal hahaha. couple weeks back we had this mk session that lasted 6 hours! - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Simple and predictable is not the same thing. Sure a yo-yo is simple to use, but if it can get a bit unpredictable if you move it in a way it shouldn't be moved. In audio games, everything is the same. In Judgement day if a helicopter is flying towards you, it'll always be the same. There's no variations on amount of hits needed to stop it, or even in its trajectory. The planes are the same. They move from left to right, and when you shoot them they make little adjustments which while bothersome, doesn't really make for any challenge. Not to say JD isn't a bad game... it's fun. And simple yet hard to master games should be more abundant as well. Street fighter 4, for example, is easy to pick up and play, and to grasp basic things like combos and commands. But to really get good at it, you need to look deeper into the engine. Where each combo can be used, just how risky is throwing out that move, etc. Which is why I like fighting games so much... they're the only kinds of games we can play fully, yet they're so unpredictable especially against human opponents. If I jump, is he going to uppercut me out of the air? If I throw a super, is there a way for me to stop him blocking it so I guarantee a hit without wasting my meter? A lot of the time I play online is spent thinking, oh crap, he's rashing towards me. Is he going to throw out a low attack which requires a different block command than a regular attack? Is he going to go for an unblockable throw? It's that kind of complexity that audio games lack and need to develop. It's always been amazing to me how two bunches of picksals and polygons beating each other up on a screen can be so complex. Sure you may say it's like a real fight, but it's a video game... the real thing takes all that into account and more. I just find fighting games so much simpler than most of people give them credit for. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
That actually makes sense. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Could there be a bit more echo in the case of stairs? As I see it, having been underground in a mine... the main tunnels don't echo much. But get to a staircase, and there's just this tiny bit of echo that lets you know that the tunnel is opening on a stairwell on the left. Just a thought. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Hi Dark, Those are some good points. However, as you pointed out some times it is really really really hard to convey a concept or certain activity in audio alone. For example, one of the things I'm having difficulty with is staircases in the new Tomb Hunter game. Normally the staircase would be cut out of the same limestone as the floors and the blocks that the walls are made out of. That's all well and fine for realism, but from an audio game perspective how do I identify the sound of the staircase from the normal floor without using a totally different surface type. I can't simply use wood, because it was pretty rare in ancient Egypt. Nor would metal, sand, dirt, etc work. I've got other stone step sounds, but none quite as good as those I am using. So I'm sort of stumped how to identify by sound alone that this is a stone staircase and not a part of the floor. I'll probably have to solve that problem by acquiring some alternative stone footstep sounds. While solving something like the stone staircases verses the stone floor has a fairly easy solution some things like replacing a bouncing skull in Montezuma's Revenge isn't immediately apparent. Sometimes the developer just isn't that creative, or an alternative solution didn't occur to him/her. I know I didn't think about the crushers until you mentioned it just now. I just removed the bouncing/jumping skulls, and replaced them with normal ones. Problem solved, but didn't replace it with something equally difficult though. However, if there is a balance to the bouncing skulls in the unreleased levels, levels 7-12, the skulls were invincible. You couldn't destroy them with a sword, and it was pretty dang hard to get through some of those levels. So that probably balanced out and made up for the bouncing skulls. Cheers! On 1/5/12, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. I've actually often thought part of the problem in the developement of some games is that when some mainstream concept is not possible for whatever reason, it seems to be just missed out rather than replaced by something to maintain the complexity. for instance in original duckhunt you tracked the ducks flying diagonally on a large playing field with a light gun, but in Liam's port you just track them in sterrio and not verticlly. Well obviously tracking with a light gun the same as the original game is not possible, but why not add in something else to compensate, - for instance have the ducks need to be targited vertically like the gorbian ships in troop 2, or add in a distance factor so that you need to hit the ducks directly in the center of the field and get points accordingly. similarly, in your original monti game, so we can't have bouncing skulls, well why not put in another hazard that falls from above which you need to simply avoid, such as some crushes that hammer down from the cieling intermitantly like the fwomps in mario, sinse avoiding these and! jumping a skull at the same time would offer a similar spacial exercize to the bouncing skull. Of course, i know part of this is because developing games is simply difficult, and that a sterrio field does not naturally hold as much information as a visual one meaning that extra complexity requires extra coding, but stil I think it'd be something worth thinking about when creating an action game, how to introduce multiple factors the player needs to judge into the mix so that the game does not devolve into boppit. Pipe 2 is a good example of an attempt at this, though even there I think more could've been added, for instance more directional hazards similar to lectricity on pipe levels which you needed to be aware of. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of
Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story
Hi, Lol. You ought to learn a programming language and develop that for us. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Clement Chou Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:35 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story School hunters 1: mystery of the pink pen. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story HI, What do you call that, School Hunter, Mysteries of the Fountain? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Clement Chou Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 11:43 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story When you've developed MOTA fully, you will need to take a break and then make a parody game... instead of mercenaries Angela will be spraying kids with a water pistol... and the head man will be the principle of the school she's ransacking for the mystical fountain pen or something. Yikes... terrible dialog is always bad, but sometimes... you can't help but laugh. Resident Evil had some pretty cheesy lines too. By the way... that hot air line? Classic. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Possible New MOTA Story Hi, Lol! Omg. That would be funny. I can see some pretty bad but humorous dialog coming out of that scene too. Angela, I tthought I got rid of you. Your nothing but a pest. Arthur, you know I'm like a bad penny. I always turn up. I'll kill you again, and again, and again if need be. Oh, I don't think that's so easy my dear. muahahaha. I'm a god! Believing oneself is a god is a sign of mental instability. I suppose after being killed by me about ten times has turned your brains to mush. Oh, I forgot. You haven't got a brain. The last time I killed you I put a bullet through your forehead. The only thing behind your ears is a lot of hot air. Now, get a British actress to deliver those lines, someone who sounds like Lara Croft, and you have a really funny but bent cutscene. Lol! Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1416 / Virus Database: 2109/4124 - Release Date: 01/05/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1416 / Virus Database: 2109/4124 - Release Date: 01/05/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] pbgames is dead at last
Hi, Me too. I was aobut ready to start screaming. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Dallas O'Brien Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 10:06 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pbgames is dead at last wow, makes me wander if he is even reading the responses to the emails at all .. or if its just going in one ear, and straight out the other. i don't know how many of the emails in this thread have been aimed at correcting his mistake as to which code it is. lol. probably more then half of them. dallas On 1/5/2012 13:22, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Shaun, No offense, but listen to us for a second. There is no such thing as MS Java. Microsoft does not have, never did have, and probably will never have a Java language. It was originally Sun not Microsoft who created the Java language. Plus you are obviously totally misinformed because Java is no longer owned by Sun either. Sun Java is now owned by Oricle as well as StarOffice, the Java runtime, and all of Sun's other products. Would you please, please, please stop spreading misinformation around on the list. HTH On 1/4/12, shaun everisssm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: they were written in ms java, as for porting them over, they are incripted, so they would have to be rewriten from scratch. But that gives me an interesting slant, if we could port to sun java maybe. I was thinking about bgt but if we wanted cross platform, sun java or maybe even python may be best. nvda is stable and is python based so I don't think we have any issue with python. I have not played many java games but those seem ok to. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1416 / Virus Database: 2109/4124 - Release Date: 01/05/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
Hi, It would, except that if the staircase is in front of you, there wouldn't be any echo. But I like the idea. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:42 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News That actually makes sense. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Could there be a bit more echo in the case of stairs? As I see it, having been underground in a mine... the main tunnels don't echo much. But get to a staircase, and there's just this tiny bit of echo that lets you know that the tunnel is opening on a stairwell on the left. Just a thought. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Hi Dark, Those are some good points. However, as you pointed out some times it is really really really hard to convey a concept or certain activity in audio alone. For example, one of the things I'm having difficulty with is staircases in the new Tomb Hunter game. Normally the staircase would be cut out of the same limestone as the floors and the blocks that the walls are made out of. That's all well and fine for realism, but from an audio game perspective how do I identify the sound of the staircase from the normal floor without using a totally different surface type. I can't simply use wood, because it was pretty rare in ancient Egypt. Nor would metal, sand, dirt, etc work. I've got other stone step sounds, but none quite as good as those I am using. So I'm sort of stumped how to identify by sound alone that this is a stone staircase and not a part of the floor. I'll probably have to solve that problem by acquiring some alternative stone footstep sounds. While solving something like the stone staircases verses the stone floor has a fairly easy solution some things like replacing a bouncing skull in Montezuma's Revenge isn't immediately apparent. Sometimes the developer just isn't that creative, or an alternative solution didn't occur to him/her. I know I didn't think about the crushers until you mentioned it just now. I just removed the bouncing/jumping skulls, and replaced them with normal ones. Problem solved, but didn't replace it with something equally difficult though. However, if there is a balance to the bouncing skulls in the unreleased levels, levels 7-12, the skulls were invincible. You couldn't destroy them with a sword, and it was pretty dang hard to get through some of those levels. So that probably balanced out and made up for the bouncing skulls. Cheers! On 1/5/12, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. I've actually often thought part of the problem in the developement of some games is that when some mainstream concept is not possible for whatever reason, it seems to be just missed out rather than replaced by something to maintain the complexity. for instance in original duckhunt you tracked the ducks flying diagonally on a large playing field with a light gun, but in Liam's port you just track them in sterrio and not verticlly. Well obviously tracking with a light gun the same as the original game is not possible, but why not add in something else to compensate, - for instance have the ducks need to be targited vertically like the gorbian ships in troop 2, or add in a distance factor so that you need to hit the ducks directly in the center of the field and get points accordingly. similarly, in your original monti game, so we can't have bouncing skulls, well why not put in another hazard that falls from above which you need to simply avoid, such as some crushes that hammer down from the cieling intermitantly like the fwomps in mario, sinse avoiding these and! jumping a skull at the same time would offer a similar spacial exercize to the bouncing skull. Of course, i know part of this is because developing games is simply difficult, and that a sterrio field does not naturally hold as much information as a visual one meaning that extra complexity requires extra coding, but stil I think it'd be something worth thinking about when creating an action game, how to introduce multiple factors the player needs to judge into the mix so that the game does not devolve into boppit. Pipe 2 is a good example of an attempt at this, though even there I think more could've been added, for instance more directional hazards similar to lectricity on pipe levels which you needed to be aware of.
Re: [Audyssey] Adult Games was Huge Cave
Hi Mich, Lol! I guess I'd have to send each customer an inflatable love doll to feel along with the Strip Poker game eh? And no reading Playboy in braille isn't my idea of fun when I use to steel my uncles copies and look at the centerfolds when no one was keeping an eye on me. Definitely got more out of the pictures than the stories. Seriously, though, there are lots of adult games out there that can be made accessible besides the adult interactive fiction games floating around. The Strip Poker game was just one example that comes immediately to mind as a person could give a textual description of the picture, tell you what pose she is in, as well as describe her. Plus all of the come on comments the girl's make are something of a turn on in themselves. Provided you have a good voice actress there are lots of ways to make the game erotic enough to get some value out of it. Cheers! On 1/5/12, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote: Hey tom and all. on the topic of strip poker I think it would be able to be adapted to the blind if you had either a real stripper there lol or a tactile version of one lol. that is also another reason why it boggles my mind that they have issues of Braille playboy lol since no one reads that for the articles lol that is like saying I watch porn for the acting lol. well this is just my 2 sense worth on this topic. as for the accessible adult games I to wish that there were allot more out there. from Mich. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
Nor is everybody interested in fighting games. I like a good fight now and then but my interests generally lie elsewhere. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Yohandy, you need to consider that not everyone can fork out a couple hundred bucks for a console... plus however much games would cost. - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News nothing good. give up your pcs people! else you'll never play anything worthwhile. you guys have been waiting for an mk port for pc for years, and it hasn't happened. what makes anyone think it'll happen any time soon? questions along the lines of does this or that exist on PC? can get rather irritating. just get a console and you'll be able to play anything you want. - Original Message - From: joseph weakland josephweakl...@att.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News IS THERE ANY ACCESSIBLE mk ONLINE GAMES YOU CAN PLAY WITH PC? - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Clement, you and I think quite similarly. you can fight a CPU all day, but nothing's as hard to conquer as another human being. I've been playing lots of MK online lately, especially against some friends, and man some of those fights came down to the wire. we literally had 1 hit left before we died, and there were these tense 10-15 seconds where it was all about blocking and dodging. we had our mics on and you hear people panting and things. whoever hears us would think we're running a marathon hahaha. when someone finally 1, lots of screaming ensued. we really get into it and it's totally freakin awesome! call it just pixels on screen, cartoon characters, whatever you like. but man when I'm done with some of those gaming sessions I'm all sweating like a freaking animal hahaha. couple weeks back we had this mk session that lasted 6 hours! - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Simple and predictable is not the same thing. Sure a yo-yo is simple to use, but if it can get a bit unpredictable if you move it in a way it shouldn't be moved. In audio games, everything is the same. In Judgement day if a helicopter is flying towards you, it'll always be the same. There's no variations on amount of hits needed to stop it, or even in its trajectory. The planes are the same. They move from left to right, and when you shoot them they make little adjustments which while bothersome, doesn't really make for any challenge. Not to say JD isn't a bad game... it's fun. And simple yet hard to master games should be more abundant as well. Street fighter 4, for example, is easy to pick up and play, and to grasp basic things like combos and commands. But to really get good at it, you need to look deeper into the engine. Where each combo can be used, just how risky is throwing out that move, etc. Which is why I like fighting games so much... they're the only kinds of games we can play fully, yet they're so unpredictable especially against human opponents. If I jump, is he going to uppercut me out of the air? If I throw a super, is there a way for me to stop him blocking it so I guarantee a hit without wasting my meter? A lot of the time I play online is spent thinking, oh crap, he's rashing towards me. Is he going to throw out a low attack which requires a different block command than a regular attack? Is he going to go for an unblockable throw? It's that kind of complexity that audio games lack and need to develop. It's always been amazing to me how two bunches of picksals and polygons beating each other up on a screen can be so complex. Sure you may say it's like a real fight, but it's a video game... the real thing takes all that into account and more. I just find fighting games so much simpler than most of people give them credit for. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
There could still be since it could still echo up or down from the next level. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Hi, It would, except that if the staircase is in front of you, there wouldn't be any echo. But I like the idea. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:42 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News That actually makes sense. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Could there be a bit more echo in the case of stairs? As I see it, having been underground in a mine... the main tunnels don't echo much. But get to a staircase, and there's just this tiny bit of echo that lets you know that the tunnel is opening on a stairwell on the left. Just a thought. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Hi Dark, Those are some good points. However, as you pointed out some times it is really really really hard to convey a concept or certain activity in audio alone. For example, one of the things I'm having difficulty with is staircases in the new Tomb Hunter game. Normally the staircase would be cut out of the same limestone as the floors and the blocks that the walls are made out of. That's all well and fine for realism, but from an audio game perspective how do I identify the sound of the staircase from the normal floor without using a totally different surface type. I can't simply use wood, because it was pretty rare in ancient Egypt. Nor would metal, sand, dirt, etc work. I've got other stone step sounds, but none quite as good as those I am using. So I'm sort of stumped how to identify by sound alone that this is a stone staircase and not a part of the floor. I'll probably have to solve that problem by acquiring some alternative stone footstep sounds. While solving something like the stone staircases verses the stone floor has a fairly easy solution some things like replacing a bouncing skull in Montezuma's Revenge isn't immediately apparent. Sometimes the developer just isn't that creative, or an alternative solution didn't occur to him/her. I know I didn't think about the crushers until you mentioned it just now. I just removed the bouncing/jumping skulls, and replaced them with normal ones. Problem solved, but didn't replace it with something equally difficult though. However, if there is a balance to the bouncing skulls in the unreleased levels, levels 7-12, the skulls were invincible. You couldn't destroy them with a sword, and it was pretty dang hard to get through some of those levels. So that probably balanced out and made up for the bouncing skulls. Cheers! On 1/5/12, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. I've actually often thought part of the problem in the developement of some games is that when some mainstream concept is not possible for whatever reason, it seems to be just missed out rather than replaced by something to maintain the complexity. for instance in original duckhunt you tracked the ducks flying diagonally on a large playing field with a light gun, but in Liam's port you just track them in sterrio and not verticlly. Well obviously tracking with a light gun the same as the original game is not possible, but why not add in something else to compensate, - for instance have the ducks need to be targited vertically like the gorbian ships in troop 2, or add in a distance factor so that you need to hit the ducks directly in the center of the field and get points accordingly. similarly, in your original monti game, so we can't have bouncing skulls, well why not put in another hazard that falls from above which you need to simply avoid, such as some crushes that hammer down from the cieling intermitantly like the fwomps in mario, sinse avoiding these and! jumping a skull at the same time would offer a similar spacial exercize to the bouncing skull. Of course, i know part of this is because developing games is simply difficult, and that a sterrio field does not naturally hold as much information as a visual one meaning that extra complexity requires extra coding, but stil I think it'd be something worth thinking about when creating an action game, how to introduce multiple
Re: [Audyssey] Adult Games was Huge Cave
Wasn't that Leather Goddesses of Phobos game (SP?) from Infocom considered Adult? Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Adult Games was Huge Cave Hi Mich, Lol! I guess I'd have to send each customer an inflatable love doll to feel along with the Strip Poker game eh? And no reading Playboy in braille isn't my idea of fun when I use to steel my uncles copies and look at the centerfolds when no one was keeping an eye on me. Definitely got more out of the pictures than the stories. Seriously, though, there are lots of adult games out there that can be made accessible besides the adult interactive fiction games floating around. The Strip Poker game was just one example that comes immediately to mind as a person could give a textual description of the picture, tell you what pose she is in, as well as describe her. Plus all of the come on comments the girl's make are something of a turn on in themselves. Provided you have a good voice actress there are lots of ways to make the game erotic enough to get some value out of it. Cheers! On 1/5/12, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote: Hey tom and all. on the topic of strip poker I think it would be able to be adapted to the blind if you had either a real stripper there lol or a tactile version of one lol. that is also another reason why it boggles my mind that they have issues of Braille playboy lol since no one reads that for the articles lol that is like saying I watch porn for the acting lol. well this is just my 2 sense worth on this topic. as for the accessible adult games I to wish that there were allot more out there. from Mich. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
Hi Clement, HmmmMaybe I'll trie it and see. Its worth a try, because all I really need here is a little sound indication that this is the top or or bottom of a staircase and not the floor itself. Adding a little echo might work here. Cheers! On 1/5/12, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: Could there be a bit more echo in the case of stairs? As I see it, having been underground in a mine... the main tunnels don't echo much. But get to a staircase, and there's just this tiny bit of echo that lets you know that the tunnel is opening on a stairwell on the left. Just a thought. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
I've been in a mine before. It does echo. Not very much, but just enough for you to realize what you're coming up to. Being underground is actually an amazing experience. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Hi, It would, except that if the staircase is in front of you, there wouldn't be any echo. But I like the idea. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:42 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News That actually makes sense. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Could there be a bit more echo in the case of stairs? As I see it, having been underground in a mine... the main tunnels don't echo much. But get to a staircase, and there's just this tiny bit of echo that lets you know that the tunnel is opening on a stairwell on the left. Just a thought. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Hi Dark, Those are some good points. However, as you pointed out some times it is really really really hard to convey a concept or certain activity in audio alone. For example, one of the things I'm having difficulty with is staircases in the new Tomb Hunter game. Normally the staircase would be cut out of the same limestone as the floors and the blocks that the walls are made out of. That's all well and fine for realism, but from an audio game perspective how do I identify the sound of the staircase from the normal floor without using a totally different surface type. I can't simply use wood, because it was pretty rare in ancient Egypt. Nor would metal, sand, dirt, etc work. I've got other stone step sounds, but none quite as good as those I am using. So I'm sort of stumped how to identify by sound alone that this is a stone staircase and not a part of the floor. I'll probably have to solve that problem by acquiring some alternative stone footstep sounds. While solving something like the stone staircases verses the stone floor has a fairly easy solution some things like replacing a bouncing skull in Montezuma's Revenge isn't immediately apparent. Sometimes the developer just isn't that creative, or an alternative solution didn't occur to him/her. I know I didn't think about the crushers until you mentioned it just now. I just removed the bouncing/jumping skulls, and replaced them with normal ones. Problem solved, but didn't replace it with something equally difficult though. However, if there is a balance to the bouncing skulls in the unreleased levels, levels 7-12, the skulls were invincible. You couldn't destroy them with a sword, and it was pretty dang hard to get through some of those levels. So that probably balanced out and made up for the bouncing skulls. Cheers! On 1/5/12, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. I've actually often thought part of the problem in the developement of some games is that when some mainstream concept is not possible for whatever reason, it seems to be just missed out rather than replaced by something to maintain the complexity. for instance in original duckhunt you tracked the ducks flying diagonally on a large playing field with a light gun, but in Liam's port you just track them in sterrio and not verticlly. Well obviously tracking with a light gun the same as the original game is not possible, but why not add in something else to compensate, - for instance have the ducks need to be targited vertically like the gorbian ships in troop 2, or add in a distance factor so that you need to hit the ducks directly in the center of the field and get points accordingly. similarly, in your original monti game, so we can't have bouncing skulls, well why not put in another hazard that falls from above which you need to simply avoid, such as some crushes that hammer down from the cieling intermitantly like the fwomps in mario, sinse avoiding these and! jumping a skull at the same time would offer a similar spacial exercize to the bouncing skull. Of course, i know part of this is because developing games is simply difficult, and that a sterrio field does not naturally hold as much information as a visual one meaning that extra complexity requires extra coding, but stil I think it'd be something worth thinking about when creating an action game, how to introduce
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
Well, that's true too... but I thought that was a given. But there are times when I don't think fighting games get as much of a chance from the gaming community as they should get. People write off games like Soul Calibur and MK as being too shallow... and that's without ever seriously sitting down with it and playing with it. Though to be fair, MK wasn't all too deep until MK 9. But I guess I'm a bit biased, considering I grew up with fighting games. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Nor is everybody interested in fighting games. I like a good fight now and then but my interests generally lie elsewhere. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] fighting games (was): Mysteries of the Ancients News
empty message. might want to resend. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] fighting games (was): Mysteries of the Ancients News - Original Message - From: joseph weakland josephweakl...@att.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News IS THERE ANY ACCESSIBLE mk ONLINE GAMES YOU CAN PLAY WITH PC? - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Clement, you and I think quite similarly. you can fight a CPU all day, but nothing's as hard to conquer as another human being. I've been playing lots of MK online lately, especially against some friends, and man some of those fights came down to the wire. we literally had 1 hit left before we died, and there were these tense 10-15 seconds where it was all about blocking and dodging. we had our mics on and you hear people panting and things. whoever hears us would think we're running a marathon hahaha. when someone finally 1, lots of screaming ensued. we really get into it and it's totally freakin awesome! call it just pixels on screen, cartoon characters, whatever you like. but man when I'm done with some of those gaming sessions I'm all sweating like a freaking animal hahaha. couple weeks back we had this mk session that lasted 6 hours! - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Simple and predictable is not the same thing. Sure a yo-yo is simple to use, but if it can get a bit unpredictable if you move it in a way it shouldn't be moved. In audio games, everything is the same. In Judgement day if a helicopter is flying towards you, it'll always be the same. There's no variations on amount of hits needed to stop it, or even in its trajectory. The planes are the same. They move from left to right, and when you shoot them they make little adjustments which while bothersome, doesn't really make for any challenge. Not to say JD isn't a bad game... it's fun. And simple yet hard to master games should be more abundant as well. Street fighter 4, for example, is easy to pick up and play, and to grasp basic things like combos and commands. But to really get good at it, you need to look deeper into the engine. Where each combo can be used, just how risky is throwing out that move, etc. Which is why I like fighting games so much... they're the only kinds of games we can play fully, yet they're so unpredictable especially against human opponents. If I jump, is he going to uppercut me out of the air? If I throw a super, is there a way for me to stop him blocking it so I guarantee a hit without wasting my meter? A lot of the time I play online is spent thinking, oh crap, he's rashing towards me. Is he going to throw out a low attack which requires a different block command than a regular attack? Is he going to go for an unblockable throw? It's that kind of complexity that audio games lack and need to develop. It's always been amazing to me how two bunches of picksals and polygons beating each other up on a screen can be so complex. Sure you may say it's like a real fight, but it's a video game... the real thing takes all that into account and more. I just find fighting games so much simpler than most of people give them credit for. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
doesn't change the fact that mk will probably never be developed on PC. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Except that not everybody can afford consoles. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News nothing good. give up your pcs people! else you'll never play anything worthwhile. you guys have been waiting for an mk port for pc for years, and it hasn't happened. what makes anyone think it'll happen any time soon? questions along the lines of does this or that exist on PC? can get rather irritating. just get a console and you'll be able to play anything you want. - Original Message - From: joseph weakland josephweakl...@att.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News IS THERE ANY ACCESSIBLE mk ONLINE GAMES YOU CAN PLAY WITH PC? - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Clement, you and I think quite similarly. you can fight a CPU all day, but nothing's as hard to conquer as another human being. I've been playing lots of MK online lately, especially against some friends, and man some of those fights came down to the wire. we literally had 1 hit left before we died, and there were these tense 10-15 seconds where it was all about blocking and dodging. we had our mics on and you hear people panting and things. whoever hears us would think we're running a marathon hahaha. when someone finally 1, lots of screaming ensued. we really get into it and it's totally freakin awesome! call it just pixels on screen, cartoon characters, whatever you like. but man when I'm done with some of those gaming sessions I'm all sweating like a freaking animal hahaha. couple weeks back we had this mk session that lasted 6 hours! - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Simple and predictable is not the same thing. Sure a yo-yo is simple to use, but if it can get a bit unpredictable if you move it in a way it shouldn't be moved. In audio games, everything is the same. In Judgement day if a helicopter is flying towards you, it'll always be the same. There's no variations on amount of hits needed to stop it, or even in its trajectory. The planes are the same. They move from left to right, and when you shoot them they make little adjustments which while bothersome, doesn't really make for any challenge. Not to say JD isn't a bad game... it's fun. And simple yet hard to master games should be more abundant as well. Street fighter 4, for example, is easy to pick up and play, and to grasp basic things like combos and commands. But to really get good at it, you need to look deeper into the engine. Where each combo can be used, just how risky is throwing out that move, etc. Which is why I like fighting games so much... they're the only kinds of games we can play fully, yet they're so unpredictable especially against human opponents. If I jump, is he going to uppercut me out of the air? If I throw a super, is there a way for me to stop him blocking it so I guarantee a hit without wasting my meter? A lot of the time I play online is spent thinking, oh crap, he's rashing towards me. Is he going to throw out a low attack which requires a different block command than a regular attack? Is he going to go for an unblockable throw? It's that kind of complexity that audio games lack and need to develop. It's always been amazing to me how two bunches of picksals and polygons beating each other up on a screen can be so complex. Sure you may say it's like a real fight, but it's a video game... the real thing takes all that into account and more. I just find fighting games so much simpler than most of people give them credit for. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
Wasn't saying it would. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News doesn't change the fact that mk will probably never be developed on PC. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Except that not everybody can afford consoles. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News nothing good. give up your pcs people! else you'll never play anything worthwhile. you guys have been waiting for an mk port for pc for years, and it hasn't happened. what makes anyone think it'll happen any time soon? questions along the lines of does this or that exist on PC? can get rather irritating. just get a console and you'll be able to play anything you want. - Original Message - From: joseph weakland josephweakl...@att.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News IS THERE ANY ACCESSIBLE mk ONLINE GAMES YOU CAN PLAY WITH PC? - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Clement, you and I think quite similarly. you can fight a CPU all day, but nothing's as hard to conquer as another human being. I've been playing lots of MK online lately, especially against some friends, and man some of those fights came down to the wire. we literally had 1 hit left before we died, and there were these tense 10-15 seconds where it was all about blocking and dodging. we had our mics on and you hear people panting and things. whoever hears us would think we're running a marathon hahaha. when someone finally 1, lots of screaming ensued. we really get into it and it's totally freakin awesome! call it just pixels on screen, cartoon characters, whatever you like. but man when I'm done with some of those gaming sessions I'm all sweating like a freaking animal hahaha. couple weeks back we had this mk session that lasted 6 hours! - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Simple and predictable is not the same thing. Sure a yo-yo is simple to use, but if it can get a bit unpredictable if you move it in a way it shouldn't be moved. In audio games, everything is the same. In Judgement day if a helicopter is flying towards you, it'll always be the same. There's no variations on amount of hits needed to stop it, or even in its trajectory. The planes are the same. They move from left to right, and when you shoot them they make little adjustments which while bothersome, doesn't really make for any challenge. Not to say JD isn't a bad game... it's fun. And simple yet hard to master games should be more abundant as well. Street fighter 4, for example, is easy to pick up and play, and to grasp basic things like combos and commands. But to really get good at it, you need to look deeper into the engine. Where each combo can be used, just how risky is throwing out that move, etc. Which is why I like fighting games so much... they're the only kinds of games we can play fully, yet they're so unpredictable especially against human opponents. If I jump, is he going to uppercut me out of the air? If I throw a super, is there a way for me to stop him blocking it so I guarantee a hit without wasting my meter? A lot of the time I play online is spent thinking, oh crap, he's rashing towards me. Is he going to throw out a low attack which requires a different block command than a regular attack? Is he going to go for an unblockable throw? It's that kind of complexity that audio games lack and need to develop. It's always been amazing to me how two bunches of picksals and polygons beating each other up on a screen can be so complex. Sure you may say it's like a real fight, but it's a video game... the real thing takes all that into account and more. I just find fighting games so much simpler than most of people give them credit for. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your
Re: [Audyssey] fighting games (was): Mysteries of the Ancients News
Yeah, I kinda realized it after I changed the subject and just automatically hit the send button. I was going to answer Joseph's question, but you already did... so that message was void anyway. lol - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] fighting games (was): Mysteries of the Ancients News empty message. might want to resend. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
then they will never play such games. it's that simple. lots of blind people can afford things like ipods, ipads, and iphones, so I'm sure a gaming console isn't out of the question. and they bought the pc they're using to type the email, didn't they? I think insecurity on whether or not they can play it is the main factor here, not necessarily a money issue. however if you don't try it out, you'll never know. and if you wait for the particular game you want to be developed on pc, you'll be waiting a lng time. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Yohandy, you need to consider that not everyone can fork out a couple hundred bucks for a console... plus however much games would cost. - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News nothing good. give up your pcs people! else you'll never play anything worthwhile. you guys have been waiting for an mk port for pc for years, and it hasn't happened. what makes anyone think it'll happen any time soon? questions along the lines of does this or that exist on PC? can get rather irritating. just get a console and you'll be able to play anything you want. - Original Message - From: joseph weakland josephweakl...@att.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News IS THERE ANY ACCESSIBLE mk ONLINE GAMES YOU CAN PLAY WITH PC? - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Clement, you and I think quite similarly. you can fight a CPU all day, but nothing's as hard to conquer as another human being. I've been playing lots of MK online lately, especially against some friends, and man some of those fights came down to the wire. we literally had 1 hit left before we died, and there were these tense 10-15 seconds where it was all about blocking and dodging. we had our mics on and you hear people panting and things. whoever hears us would think we're running a marathon hahaha. when someone finally 1, lots of screaming ensued. we really get into it and it's totally freakin awesome! call it just pixels on screen, cartoon characters, whatever you like. but man when I'm done with some of those gaming sessions I'm all sweating like a freaking animal hahaha. couple weeks back we had this mk session that lasted 6 hours! - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Simple and predictable is not the same thing. Sure a yo-yo is simple to use, but if it can get a bit unpredictable if you move it in a way it shouldn't be moved. In audio games, everything is the same. In Judgement day if a helicopter is flying towards you, it'll always be the same. There's no variations on amount of hits needed to stop it, or even in its trajectory. The planes are the same. They move from left to right, and when you shoot them they make little adjustments which while bothersome, doesn't really make for any challenge. Not to say JD isn't a bad game... it's fun. And simple yet hard to master games should be more abundant as well. Street fighter 4, for example, is easy to pick up and play, and to grasp basic things like combos and commands. But to really get good at it, you need to look deeper into the engine. Where each combo can be used, just how risky is throwing out that move, etc. Which is why I like fighting games so much... they're the only kinds of games we can play fully, yet they're so unpredictable especially against human opponents. If I jump, is he going to uppercut me out of the air? If I throw a super, is there a way for me to stop him blocking it so I guarantee a hit without wasting my meter? A lot of the time I play online is spent thinking, oh crap, he's rashing towards me. Is he going to throw out a low attack which requires a different block command than a regular attack? Is he going to go for an unblockable throw? It's that kind of complexity that audio games lack and need to develop. It's always been amazing to me how two bunches of picksals and polygons beating each other up on a screen can be so complex. Sure you may say it's like a real fight, but it's a video game... the real thing takes all that into account and more. I just find fighting games so much simpler than most of people give them credit for. --- Gamers mailing list __
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Well as for buying the computer not necessarily. Voc Rehab might have paid for that and the screen reader. As for buying IPads and IPhones but not consoles, that's a differet stor since there's a lot you ca do with one of those. But I've never been one to buy a console just for one or two games. That would be like buying an entire CD just for one song, although I suppose with ITunes that's less of a problem nowadays. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News then they will never play such games. it's that simple. lots of blind people can afford things like ipods, ipads, and iphones, so I'm sure a gaming console isn't out of the question. and they bought the pc they're using to type the email, didn't they? I think insecurity on whether or not they can play it is the main factor here, not necessarily a money issue. however if you don't try it out, you'll never know. and if you wait for the particular game you want to be developed on pc, you'll be waiting a lng time. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Yohandy, you need to consider that not everyone can fork out a couple hundred bucks for a console... plus however much games would cost. - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News nothing good. give up your pcs people! else you'll never play anything worthwhile. you guys have been waiting for an mk port for pc for years, and it hasn't happened. what makes anyone think it'll happen any time soon? questions along the lines of does this or that exist on PC? can get rather irritating. just get a console and you'll be able to play anything you want. - Original Message - From: joseph weakland josephweakl...@att.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News IS THERE ANY ACCESSIBLE mk ONLINE GAMES YOU CAN PLAY WITH PC? - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Clement, you and I think quite similarly. you can fight a CPU all day, but nothing's as hard to conquer as another human being. I've been playing lots of MK online lately, especially against some friends, and man some of those fights came down to the wire. we literally had 1 hit left before we died, and there were these tense 10-15 seconds where it was all about blocking and dodging. we had our mics on and you hear people panting and things. whoever hears us would think we're running a marathon hahaha. when someone finally 1, lots of screaming ensued. we really get into it and it's totally freakin awesome! call it just pixels on screen, cartoon characters, whatever you like. but man when I'm done with some of those gaming sessions I'm all sweating like a freaking animal hahaha. couple weeks back we had this mk session that lasted 6 hours! - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Simple and predictable is not the same thing. Sure a yo-yo is simple to use, but if it can get a bit unpredictable if you move it in a way it shouldn't be moved. In audio games, everything is the same. In Judgement day if a helicopter is flying towards you, it'll always be the same. There's no variations on amount of hits needed to stop it, or even in its trajectory. The planes are the same. They move from left to right, and when you shoot them they make little adjustments which while bothersome, doesn't really make for any challenge. Not to say JD isn't a bad game... it's fun. And simple yet hard to master games should be more abundant as well. Street fighter 4, for example, is easy to pick up and play, and to grasp basic things like combos and commands. But to really get good at it, you need to look deeper into the engine. Where each combo can be used, just how risky is throwing out that move, etc. Which is why I like fighting games so much... they're the only kinds of games we can play fully, yet they're so unpredictable especially against human opponents. If I jump, is he going to uppercut me out of the air? If I throw a super, is there a way for me to stop him blocking it
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not to mention space. My room has a tv but the location is fully unsuited for a console. Ofcause that depends on the console. If we are talking on the latest generation playstation or xbox it is probably out my legue anyway. I actually am trying to distance myself from as many things tech wise I can as I don't want to be tied to anything. I have hardly space for the computer, mouse, and drives, so no console at least no big hunking consoles. And there is almost no value in getting one, I have never played them, won't start now, I have always played pc. At 07:40 p.m. 5/01/2012 -0800, you wrote: Yohandy, you need to consider that not everyone can fork out a couple hundred bucks for a console... plus however much games would cost. - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News nothing good. give up your pcs people! else you'll never play anything worthwhile. you guys have been waiting for an mk port for pc for years, and it hasn't happened. what makes anyone think it'll happen any time soon? questions along the lines of does this or that exist on PC? can get rather irritating. just get a console and you'll be able to play anything you want. - Original Message - From: joseph weakland josephweakl...@att.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News IS THERE ANY ACCESSIBLE mk ONLINE GAMES YOU CAN PLAY WITH PC? - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Clement, you and I think quite similarly. you can fight a CPU all day, but nothing's as hard to conquer as another human being. I've been playing lots of MK online lately, especially against some friends, and man some of those fights came down to the wire. we literally had 1 hit left before we died, and there were these tense 10-15 seconds where it was all about blocking and dodging. we had our mics on and you hear people panting and things. whoever hears us would think we're running a marathon hahaha. when someone finally 1, lots of screaming ensued. we really get into it and it's totally freakin awesome! call it just pixels on screen, cartoon characters, whatever you like. but man when I'm done with some of those gaming sessions I'm all sweating like a freaking animal hahaha. couple weeks back we had this mk session that lasted 6 hours! - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Simple and predictable is not the same thing. Sure a yo-yo is simple to use, but if it can get a bit unpredictable if you move it in a way it shouldn't be moved. In audio games, everything is the same. In Judgement day if a helicopter is flying towards you, it'll always be the same. There's no variations on amount of hits needed to stop it, or even in its trajectory. The planes are the same. They move from left to right, and when you shoot them they make little adjustments which while bothersome, doesn't really make for any challenge. Not to say JD isn't a bad game... it's fun. And simple yet hard to master games should be more abundant as well. Street fighter 4, for example, is easy to pick up and play, and to grasp basic things like combos and commands. But to really get good at it, you need to look deeper into the engine. Where each combo can be used, just how risky is throwing out that move, etc. Which is why I like fighting games so much... they're the only kinds of games we can play fully, yet they're so unpredictable especially against human opponents. If I jump, is he going to uppercut me out of the air? If I throw a super, is there a way for me to stop him blocking it so I guarantee a hit without wasting my meter? A lot of the time I play online is spent thinking, oh crap, he's rashing towards me. Is he going to throw out a low attack which requires a different block command than a regular attack? Is he going to go for an unblockable throw? It's that kind of complexity that audio games lack and need to develop. It's always been amazing to me how two bunches of picksals and polygons beating each other up on a screen can be so complex. Sure you may say it's like a real fight, but it's a video game... the real thing takes all that into account and more. I just find fighting games so much simpler than most of people give them credit for. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via
Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News
I like all fighting and stratogy some sport games but I don't really want to be tied to one game at a time. At 08:58 p.m. 5/01/2012 -0700, you wrote: Nor is everybody interested in fighting games. I like a good fight now and then but my interests generally lie elsewhere. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Yohandy, you need to consider that not everyone can fork out a couple hundred bucks for a console... plus however much games would cost. - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News nothing good. give up your pcs people! else you'll never play anything worthwhile. you guys have been waiting for an mk port for pc for years, and it hasn't happened. what makes anyone think it'll happen any time soon? questions along the lines of does this or that exist on PC? can get rather irritating. just get a console and you'll be able to play anything you want. - Original Message - From: joseph weakland josephweakl...@att.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News IS THERE ANY ACCESSIBLE mk ONLINE GAMES YOU CAN PLAY WITH PC? - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Clement, you and I think quite similarly. you can fight a CPU all day, but nothing's as hard to conquer as another human being. I've been playing lots of MK online lately, especially against some friends, and man some of those fights came down to the wire. we literally had 1 hit left before we died, and there were these tense 10-15 seconds where it was all about blocking and dodging. we had our mics on and you hear people panting and things. whoever hears us would think we're running a marathon hahaha. when someone finally 1, lots of screaming ensued. we really get into it and it's totally freakin awesome! call it just pixels on screen, cartoon characters, whatever you like. but man when I'm done with some of those gaming sessions I'm all sweating like a freaking animal hahaha. couple weeks back we had this mk session that lasted 6 hours! - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients News Simple and predictable is not the same thing. Sure a yo-yo is simple to use, but if it can get a bit unpredictable if you move it in a way it shouldn't be moved. In audio games, everything is the same. In Judgement day if a helicopter is flying towards you, it'll always be the same. There's no variations on amount of hits needed to stop it, or even in its trajectory. The planes are the same. They move from left to right, and when you shoot them they make little adjustments which while bothersome, doesn't really make for any challenge. Not to say JD isn't a bad game... it's fun. And simple yet hard to master games should be more abundant as well. Street fighter 4, for example, is easy to pick up and play, and to grasp basic things like combos and commands. But to really get good at it, you need to look deeper into the engine. Where each combo can be used, just how risky is throwing out that move, etc. Which is why I like fighting games so much... they're the only kinds of games we can play fully, yet they're so unpredictable especially against human opponents. If I jump, is he going to uppercut me out of the air? If I throw a super, is there a way for me to stop him blocking it so I guarantee a hit without wasting my meter? A lot of the time I play online is spent thinking, oh crap, he's rashing towards me. Is he going to throw out a low attack which requires a different block command than a regular attack? Is he going to go for an unblockable throw? It's that kind of complexity that audio games lack and need to develop. It's always been amazing to me how two bunches of picksals and polygons beating each other up on a screen can be so complex. Sure you may say it's like a real fight, but it's a video game... the real thing takes all that into account and more. I just find fighting games so much simpler than most of people give them credit for. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] Randomisation in Games was Huge Cave
Hi Tom. all that is very true, also in terms of text sinse the english language contains so many descriptive words, having the game randomly select a couple can give the appearence of new items or descriptions even though it is only selecting from a pool, which can completely change the feeling of the game. For instance in the roguelike game angband, most magical items that aren't weapons such as potions, wands, rings and amulets and the like need to be identified with an identify spell before you know exactly what their affects are. they aren't however just called unidentified x they each have a material description, such as copper plated wand, or ivory studded staff Once identified, either by using an identify spell or by using the item, the game will call them things like ivory studded staff of cone of cold. The clever thing however, is that these descriptions are compltely randomized each game, so one game the ivory studded staff might be cone of cold, the next it might be a staff of summon monster. this adds a lot of replay value, and also a very nice flavour for the magic items. What is however even cleverer, is that the game creates these descriptions out of a number of components that are put together. So each potion for instance could be a red potion, a red congealed potion, a red bubling potion, a dark red potion etc and you have lots of variation. the same goes for room descriptions. one idea I had in entombed for instance was having a description that could substitute psudonims, or parts of the description to allow variation in the environment. for instance, you are in a long/round/wide/narrow/cramped/broad cave/cavern/chamber/room/slot. Add in a few more descriptors and some sentence variation, and there is the potential for a great many different ways of describing the same environment, - and that's before you start assigning random objects to the area. this is why in some senses textual games have a greater facility for randomization and variation than audio or graphical ones, sinse it's far easier to create variations in text than it is in graphics or sounds. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
