Re: [JAWS-Users] how do know if disc plus or minus?

2013-05-20 Thread inthaneelf
+ and minus are grades of CD's, + is also known as gold or data, while - are
silvers or music and neither or both a +- are lower quality and used mainly
for music and such but are not as quality as the - ones

HTH,
inthane

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Behalf Of Suey
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 6:50 AM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] how do know if disc plus or minus?

Hi, does anybody know how I check whether my laptop takes plus or minus CDs?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Is there a way to check to see if I have a junk mailbox in outlook express?

2013-05-18 Thread inthaneelf
hi, 

with jaws and outlook 2003, which is one of two email clients I am currently
using to some degree (2003 is my main while wlm serves for some other
accounts) I just shift tab into the folders list, and then arrow up or down
to what I am looking for, when I open I am automatically in my main mail
inbox so its shift tab, then down arrow down a couple boxes (I have a stock
one named journal then the junk folder) then (*remember to*) hit enter, then
hit tab into the folder (note 2, if you just tab into the box without
hitting enter on the folder first, you will wind up still looking at the
list of files for the inbox you left, its a folder oddity of outlook as
compared to normal folder operations)

HTH,
de elf
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Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 4:57 AM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Is there a way to check to see if i have a junk
mailbox in outlook express?

Hi list members, I'd like to know where can I find this junk mail box in
outlook express 2003?  Thank you for any information that you might have.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Is there a way to check to see if I have a junk mailbox in outlook express?

2013-05-18 Thread inthaneelf
your correct, its outlook 2003...

inthane

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Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 5:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Is there a way to check to see if i have a
junkmailbox in outlook express?

Hi David,
There is no Outlook Express 2003.

Rick Justice
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Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 7:56 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Is there a way to check to see if i have a junk 
mailbox in outlook express?


Hi list members, I'd like to know where can I find this junk mail box in 
outlook express 2003?  Thank you for any information that you might have.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

2013-05-18 Thread inthaneelf
what do you mean  Even with reading stopped, I still can't route the JAWS
cursor anywhere near the correct screen position, under what circumstances
are you attempting this feat and for what? 

a bit more info would help.

and the location of the cursor given in that format is the screen location
of the active cursor in pixels which works for script writing and some other
unusual  things but is not much worth to a normal day screen reader user

if your having troubles in internet explorer, there are a few tricks, but
sometimes it just depends on what has been used to generate the page and
what it's supposedly showing you. 

inthane
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 7:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

Hi

Alt+numpad delete will give you the cursor position for the active cursor
for all 3 cursor types, PC, JAWS and invisible.  When the virtual cursor is
active, those keys will give you a position, but I don't know what the
position represents.  It may be the position in the virtual buffer, but of
what use is that?  Even with reading stopped, I still can't route the JAWS
cursor anywhere near the correct screen position.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of northstar1...@okiespirit.net
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

try alt+numpad delete while the jaws cursor is active.
Legend has it that on Friday 5/17/2013 04:03 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT
SERVICES) said:

Hi friends,

can anyone remember the JAWS key that announces the co-ordinates of the 
JAWS cursor on the screen please, I just can't remember it for some odd 
reason.

Many thanks in anticipation,


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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David 
Ferrin
Sent: 17 May 2013 09:30
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest
Jaws14.0.3005 Update

If I might jump in here my method of choice is to download the entire 
package and install it that way. I think the update feature might have 
failed on me once although my memory is not clear about that at such an 
un-godly hour.

I am sure that downloading the entire package has never failed on me, 
besides then you have it locally in case of a future need.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved 
from a simpler system that worked perfectly.

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Parrett
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 10:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest
Jaws14.0.3005 Update

Mike, is it better to update directly from the link in your email or do 
it from the update section in JAWS 14?

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Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:01 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest Jaws14.0.3005 
Update

Hi All,

The download links for both 32  64 bit systems are below:

32 Bit systems:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J14.0.3005-32bit.exe

64 Bit systems:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J14.0.3005-64bit.exe

HTH
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Word with too much verbiage.

2013-05-18 Thread inthaneelf
go into view and see what is selected in there, in the older words if you
had other views than normal or page view selected you could get all kinds of
verbiage thrown at you, also there should be a options section in the
ribbons, make sure the show all is not turned on in the view portion of the
options ribbon selection (I am wording it this way since I know that 2003
keystrokes work with the ribbons in most cases, but do not have any office
hire than 2003 so have not the exact knowledge of how to get to things in
the office ribbons)

I hope this helps,
inthane

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rich
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 6:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Word with too much verbage.

 Thanks Mike,
This did not work however.
Any other thoughts would be appreciated.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: Mike W7 B. mwb5...@charter.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Word with too much verbage.


 Hi Rich,

 If I remember correctly, press control, shift, +8, on the number row to 
 turn
 off and on
 proof reading marks such as the paragraph mark.
 HTH
 Take care.
 Mike
 This email was sent from my ILazyBoy.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Rich
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 6:06 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Word with too much verbage.


 Hi all,
   I have XP home and 14.0.
 Recently, I opened a document in microsoft word to modify it.
 Instead of hearing blank for blank lines, I heard paragraph mark.
 My sighted wife said the document had dash marks and other symbols 
 showing,
 that did not seem to be in that document in the past.
 Could I have altered the settings somewhere? and how can I fix it?

 Thanks so much for any help.

 Rich
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

2013-05-18 Thread inthaneelf
hmmm, ok another possible problem is that when a webpage comes up, it is
auto highlighted by the jaws/mouse cursor by it (done in the scripts)
running in a mouse click and hold fashion from the top, to the bottom of
the page, and then the pc cursor follows it down, so where the pc cursor
says is not always accessible to jaws due to the clickable area is that is
which is shown on screen and jaws has been parked off screen and the pc
cursor may or may not be on screen, a real headache setup for something like
what your trying to do. 

a simple thing that might... help is to stop the reading, move to the spot
you desire to click with the pc cursor (I usually put it, a few lines from
the bottom of the viewable area) , refresh the screen with insert and
escape, then move jaws to pc, move the jaws cursor onto the item manually,
and hit the left click button. 

another item that might work is a scripter's application called hot spot
clicker, as I follow it, I believe its used to determine exactly where to
click something to activate it (mostly used in the more graphical item
screens of programs but may well work here due to the type of item that your
talking about).

a third thought, is that many of these types of items have an unidentified
icon  in them so are not noticed by the usual named icons only of jaws
normal settings. so it may just sit there and look at you funny (a whimsical
way of saying something like your encountering), and not be properly
recognized by jaws as something to pay attention to, (yes I have dealt
with pages with such things on them), so temp turn your graphics to view
all and see if graphics wise it doesn't at least show up more correctly,
refresh the screen, and then try to jaws to it and left mouse click it. 

HTH,
inthane
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 9:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

Hi

On some web pages, there are items that can be clicked with the mouse to
bring up other pages, but there not links or graphics.  Also JAWS does not
say clickable.  For example, on the site www.amtrak.com, there is an item
that reads status.  It's not a link or graphic and dot indicated as
clickable.  You can find it by reading with the virtual cursor or with JAWS
find.  But pressing enter or space does nothing.  So I route JAWS to PC and
left click, but again nothing happens.  It appears that the only way to
activate it is to actually click it with the mouse.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

what do you mean  Even with reading stopped, I still can't route the JAWS
cursor anywhere near the correct screen position, under what circumstances
are you attempting this feat and for what? 

a bit more info would help.

and the location of the cursor given in that format is the screen location
of the active cursor in pixels which works for script writing and some other
unusual  things but is not much worth to a normal day screen reader user

if your having troubles in internet explorer, there are a few tricks, but
sometimes it just depends on what has been used to generate the page and
what it's supposedly showing you. 

inthane
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 7:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

Hi

Alt+numpad delete will give you the cursor position for the active 
Alt+cursor
for all 3 cursor types, PC, JAWS and invisible.  When the virtual cursor is
active, those keys will give you a position, but I don't know what the
position represents.  It may be the position in the virtual buffer, but of
what use is that?  Even with reading stopped, I still can't route the JAWS
cursor anywhere near the correct screen position.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of northstar1...@okiespirit.net
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

try alt+numpad delete while the jaws cursor is active.
Legend has it that on Friday 5/17/2013 04:03 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT
SERVICES) said:

Hi friends,

can anyone remember the JAWS key that announces the co-ordinates of the 
JAWS cursor on the screen please, I just can't remember it for some odd 
reason.

Many thanks in anticipation,


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

2013-05-16 Thread inthaneelf
yes but one can trigger admin alerts with such things so I tend to apologize
JIC.

thanks though and for the complement as well, I try!

de elf

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 3:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

Not even an issue, attachments are removed on the server side for the
benefit of everybody. BTW you do have some good stuff on your grab bag page.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 3:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

hi David, yes I understood that, and that's why I apologized for sending one
to the list.

good lady if you go to either of our websites, we both have differing info
for you:
mine is at:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

and his is at:
http://www.jaws-users.com/

take care and hope this helps you
inthaneelf

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 11:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

Your help is greatly appreciated.  I don't mind reading but I don't have a
resource to get started.
Thanks!

On 5/8/13, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 FYI this list strips out attachments, in fact I always set any list 
 that I have a hand in configuring in that manner for your protection.


 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
 evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
 On Behalf Of inthaneelf
 Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 1:52 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

 oops,

 list, I apologize I had three messages open that I was working with 
 and attached something to one for the list instead of the one it was 
 supposed to be attached to!

 Tammy,
 I sent you a message on list to tell you that I was mailing you an
attached
 package off list of windows 8 information I have here, but because I 
 attached a file to it it may not show up so here is the notice a 
 second time.

 HTH,
 inthaneelf

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
 On Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
 Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:01 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

 Hello!
 Could any one recommend some resources for learning how to use Windows
 8 on a laptop with Jaws 14?  Any help would be appreciated!
 Thanks!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] System restore dates removal

2013-05-16 Thread inthaneelf
knew there had to be something even if it was a command line option that
would do that, smile thanks!

inthane

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 7:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] System restore dates removal

Bring up the properties of the system drive.
On the general tab, choose the disk cleanup button.
After it has finished scanning for files to remove, tab to the cleanup tab, 
then move to the more options tab.
Here you will find the options to cleanup unwanted software, and restore 
points.
If you choose the programs and features cleanup button,
it will take you to programs and features where you can uninstall unwanted 
software.
If you choose, system restore and shadow copies cleanup button, it will
remove all but the most recent restore point.
These same steps apply to Windows XP as well.
HTH,
Rick Justice
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] System restore dates removal


You cannot add a date further back than what is listed in system restore. So
far as the other question goes I would like to know the answer as well.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fred Adams
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:05 AM
To: jaws-users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] System restore dates removal

I am using W7, Outlook 2010 and latest jaws and I would like to know if it
is possible to remove unwanted dates from system restore.  And if so, how?
Also, how can I add a date to system restore that is further back than any
dates shown?  I would appreciate any info on this.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

2013-05-15 Thread inthaneelf
hi David, yes I understood that, and that's why I apologized for sending one
to the list.

good lady if you go to either of our websites, we both have differing info
for you:
mine is at:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

and his is at:
http://www.jaws-users.com/

take care and hope this helps you
inthaneelf

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 11:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

Your help is greatly appreciated.  I don't mind reading but I don't
have a resource to get started.
Thanks!

On 5/8/13, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 FYI this list strips out attachments, in fact I always set any list that I
 have a hand in configuring in that manner for your protection.


 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved
 from
 a simpler system that worked perfectly.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of inthaneelf
 Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 1:52 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

 oops,

 list, I apologize I had three messages open that I was working with and
 attached something to one for the list instead of the one it was supposed
 to
 be attached to!

 Tammy,
 I sent you a message on list to tell you that I was mailing you an
attached
 package off list of windows 8 information I have here, but because I
 attached a file to it it may not show up so here is the notice a second
 time.

 HTH,
 inthaneelf

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
 Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:01 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

 Hello!
 Could any one recommend some resources for learning how to use Windows
 8 on a laptop with Jaws 14?  Any help would be appreciated!
 Thanks!

 --
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

2013-05-15 Thread inthaneelf
hi, 

ok all folks, I have now put the file up on my website as a downloadable
file:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

windows 8 helpful hints is the file name although its run together for
website semantics

take care,
inthane

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dwight Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 7:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

If you could be so kind I would like the same information.  I bought a new 
computer with Windows 8 and added Jaws 14 and I am having lots of 
difficulties.

Thanks so much,
Dwight Johnson
dwight...@comcast.net

- Original Message - 
From: inthaneelf inthane...@roadrunner.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 12:47 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed


I will send you my accumulated windows 8 notes, which includes notes on
 tutorials and information along with hints we have figured out on a few
 lists.

 inthaneelf

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
 Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:01 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

 Hello!
 Could any one recommend some resources for learning how to use Windows
 8 on a laptop with Jaws 14?  Any help would be appreciated!
 Thanks!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

2013-05-15 Thread inthaneelf
again just so folks get the news, 

its now on my grab bag site:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

elf

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dooie
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 1:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

Hello,

I also just purchased a new CPU with Windows8  Jaws 14;  I too would like
to receive the same.

Respectful Thanks,

Dooie



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Behalf Of Dwight Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 19:28
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

If you could be so kind I would like the same information.  I bought a new 
computer with Windows 8 and added Jaws 14 and I am having lots of 
difficulties.

Thanks so much,
Dwight Johnson
dwight...@comcast.net

- Original Message - 
From: inthaneelf inthane...@roadrunner.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 12:47 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed


I will send you my accumulated windows 8 notes, which includes notes on
 tutorials and information along with hints we have figured out on a few
 lists.

 inthaneelf

 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
 Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:01 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

 Hello!
 Could any one recommend some resources for learning how to use Windows
 8 on a laptop with Jaws 14?  Any help would be appreciated!
 Thanks!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

2013-05-10 Thread inthaneelf
I understand, smile it was an oops because I had several messages open (as
usual) and managed to attach the package to the wrong mail

my apologies
de elf
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Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 12:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

FYI this list strips out attachments, in fact I always set any list that I
have a hand in configuring in that manner for your protection. 


David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 1:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

oops, 

list, I apologize I had three messages open that I was working with and
attached something to one for the list instead of the one it was supposed to
be attached to!

Tammy,
I sent you a message on list to tell you that I was mailing you an attached
package off list of windows 8 information I have here, but because I
attached a file to it it may not show up so here is the notice a second
time.

HTH,
inthaneelf

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

Hello!
Could any one recommend some resources for learning how to use Windows
8 on a laptop with Jaws 14?  Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks!

--
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

2013-05-10 Thread inthaneelf
hmmm, I got a daemon back saying I couldn't send you that, if you did get it
let me know, if not, I'll make other arrangements for you to get the info...

elf

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 11:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

Your help is greatly appreciated.  I don't mind reading but I don't
have a resource to get started.
Thanks!

On 5/8/13, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 FYI this list strips out attachments, in fact I always set any list that I
 have a hand in configuring in that manner for your protection.


 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved
 from
 a simpler system that worked perfectly.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of inthaneelf
 Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 1:52 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

 oops,

 list, I apologize I had three messages open that I was working with and
 attached something to one for the list instead of the one it was supposed
 to
 be attached to!

 Tammy,
 I sent you a message on list to tell you that I was mailing you an
attached
 package off list of windows 8 information I have here, but because I
 attached a file to it it may not show up so here is the notice a second
 time.

 HTH,
 inthaneelf

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
 Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:01 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

 Hello!
 Could any one recommend some resources for learning how to use Windows
 8 on a laptop with Jaws 14?  Any help would be appreciated!
 Thanks!

 --
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

2013-05-10 Thread inthaneelf
same with my stuff, smile

laters,
I... 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 11:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

Unfortunately at this time it's not much, with luck it will grow down the
line:

http://www.jaws-users.com/text/Windows/8/index.html

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 2:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

Your help is greatly appreciated.  I don't mind reading but I don't have a
resource to get started.
Thanks!

On 5/8/13, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 FYI this list strips out attachments, in fact I always set any list 
 that I have a hand in configuring in that manner for your protection.


 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
 evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
 On Behalf Of inthaneelf
 Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 1:52 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

 oops,

 list, I apologize I had three messages open that I was working with 
 and attached something to one for the list instead of the one it was 
 supposed to be attached to!

 Tammy,
 I sent you a message on list to tell you that I was mailing you an 
 attached package off list of windows 8 information I have here, but 
 because I attached a file to it it may not show up so here is the 
 notice a second time.

 HTH,
 inthaneelf

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
 On Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
 Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:01 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

 Hello!
 Could any one recommend some resources for learning how to use Windows
 8 on a laptop with Jaws 14?  Any help would be appreciated!
 Thanks!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] My experience with a Windows 8 Microsoft Surface Proand JAWS

2013-05-10 Thread inthaneelf
thank you for this review, a friend of mine was shouting the virtues of the
surface, and had me partially interested, but he voiced no flaws or
differences, so again, thanks for the reality check.

elf

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Behalf Of Eric Damery
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 11:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] My experience with a Windows 8 Microsoft Surface
Proand JAWS

Hello all,

In my continued search for a really great Windows 8 Tablet PC, I got the MS
Surface Pro. With it, I purchased the $130 keyboard that Microsoft sells
with it as an upgrade. I must say, I had very high hopes for this device and
to be honest, the Surface itself is excellent. Great battery life, even
though it is a bit slow to charge. Very quick, especially the boot up which
is about 10 to 15 seconds max. It has a 128 Solid State Drive and I got a 64
Gig micro card to plug in the side. The speakers are not great but I have a
jam box and it paired up very nicely. JAWS installs and runs without any
issues. I have JAWS 14 release and I'm also doing testing hear at the office
with JAWS 15 of course, which I'll be showing at the summer conventions and
we'll get released to Public Beta about September 1st.

So you might ask, what is the problem...
The Keyboard is terrible for a keyboard user, especially one trying to drive
a screen reader. For just typing a document, it is very nice. Good feel to
the keys for a thin add-on keyboard cover and the spacing is very nice, but
it ends there. I find 4 issues that will force me to return this setup to
Amazon.

1.   The FN key is two keys to the right of the spacebar rather than on
the left side.

2.   The Function Keys F1 - F12 all require the FN key and there is no
way to switch it so the F1 - F12 could work without the FN key.

3.   There is no Insert Key so you must use Laptop Layout with CapsLock
as the JAWS key, which would be OK if the FN key was on the left side also I
guess. Just to get a Links List requires great coordination using CapsLock +
FN + F7.

4.   Finally, the Space Bar is extended left, half way across the X key
on the keyboard. My other laptop keyboards have always ended the spacebar at
the C and then an ALT key so my thumb just drops onto the ALT nicely when
needed. With this one, I'm pressing SpaceBar all the time.

Now granted, if number 4 was the only issue, I would adjust but the first 3,
make it impossible for me to consider and I decided to write this because
lots of people are considering looking at these new devices and before you
plunk down $1000 to $1200 on one of these, I figured this could be helpful
in avoiding a mistake. Again, I had such high hopes for this MS Surface. But
I have not given up my search either. I'll find something yet.

BTW, I still am using the Toshiba Protégé 835 UltraBook I bought last year
and love it. But it doesn't have a touch screen and people want to see that
working this year so I'm continuing my search.

Regards,
Eric

Eric Damery
Vice President
Software Product Management
Freedom Scientific
11800 31st Court North
St. Petersburg, FL 33716
727-299-6110

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Exiting Forms Mode, being returned to the desktop instead of where one wants to be in Internet Explorer

2013-05-10 Thread inthaneelf
no! and I use j13 and XP on my older netbook, and j13 and windows 7 on my
home monster desktop comp

laters,
inthane
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Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 5:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Exiting Forms Mode,being returned to the desktop
instead of where one wants to be inInternet Explorer

Hi,

has anybody else found that, at least using JAWS13 and a few previous 
versions, when you've fill in your Forms Mode data and then go out of 
it, more often than not you're taken to the desktop rather than the 
natural spot where you would continue to browse etc? (This is using 
Windows XP; although i suspect it's also happening in later Windows 
OS's.) One must alt-tab to return the focus to IE. Shouldn't be 
happening, really. I have turned AutoForms Mode off, if that matters.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Exiting Forms Mode, being returned to the desktop instead of where one wants to beinInternet Explorer

2013-05-10 Thread inthaneelf
or, it is possible,  that you may need to do a repair of jaws to fix a
corruption in one of the files?

HTH,
inthane
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 11:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Exiting Forms Mode,being returned to the desktop
instead of where one wants to beinInternet Explorer

OK. Well, it might be one of those weird things where one would need to 
reposition the taskbar, or the mouse, an IE toolbar, or something.

- Original Message - 
From: inthaneelf inthane...@roadrunner.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Exiting Forms Mode,being returned to the 
desktop instead of where one wants to be inInternet Explorer


 no! and I use j13 and XP on my older netbook, and j13 and windows 7 on 
 my
 home monster desktop comp

 laters,
 inthane
 -Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
On
 Behalf Of Flor Lynch
 Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 5:25 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Exiting Forms Mode,being returned to the desktop
 instead of where one wants to be inInternet Explorer

 Hi,

 has anybody else found that, at least using JAWS13 and a few previous
 versions, when you've fill in your Forms Mode data and then go out of
 it, more often than not you're taken to the desktop rather than the
 natural spot where you would continue to browse etc? (This is using
 Windows XP; although i suspect it's also happening in later Windows
 OS's.) One must alt-tab to return the focus to IE. Shouldn't be
 happening, really. I have turned AutoForms Mode off, if that matters.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Appending to clipboard in latest Jaws 14?

2013-05-07 Thread inthaneelf
I think it was a difference in the clipboard in windows 7, not jaws, I have
been told that replacing the windows 7 file clipbr.exe with a copy of the
one out of windows XP fixes this, 

I do not use jaws 14 at this time so can't tell you if the clipboard
functionality is different in it, but it works fine with windows 7 Home
Premium, and jaws 13

if you do not have a source on the XP version of this file let me know and
I'll pass you one I have here for just this use

regards,
inthaneelf

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Behalf Of Ann Marie Medlar
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 8:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Appending to clipboard in latest Jaws 14?

Hi all,
Unsure if asked in past but when I copy to clipboard all is fine.  Then I 
wish to append to clipboard windowsKey+c and append does not work in latest 
of Jaws 14 build.
Did they change the keyboard command?  Do I have the correct keyboard combo?
Ann


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Appending to clipboard in latest Jaws 14?

2013-05-07 Thread inthaneelf
oops, 

sorry I mis remembered about this, well I'm corrected now

thanks
elf

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 8:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Appending to clipboard in latest Jaws 14?

That's because, Jaws changed that key combo because windows-C is the key 
that brings up the chamrs in Win 8.  The correct command to append to the 
clipboard for Jaws 14 and up is windows-jaws-c.

The Jaws key is either the insert or Caps Loc if you have laptop keypad 
layout.
Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI
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From: Ann Marie Medlar amedl...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Appending to clipboard in latest Jaws 14?


 Hi all,
 Unsure if asked in past but when I copy to clipboard all is fine.  Then I 
 wish to append to clipboard windowsKey+c and append does not work in 
 latest of Jaws 14 build.
 Did they change the keyboard command?  Do I have the correct keyboard 
 combo?
 Ann


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

2013-05-07 Thread inthaneelf
I will send you my accumulated windows 8 notes, which includes notes on
tutorials and information along with hints we have figured out on a few
lists.

inthaneelf 

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

Hello!
Could any one recommend some resources for learning how to use Windows
8 on a laptop with Jaws 14?  Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks!

-- 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

2013-05-07 Thread inthaneelf
oops, 

list, I apologize I had three messages open that I was working with and
attached something to one for the list instead of the one it was supposed to
be attached to!

Tammy, 
I sent you a message on list to tell you that I was mailing you an attached
package off list of windows 8 information I have here, but because I
attached a file to it it may not show up so here is the notice a second
time.

HTH,
inthaneelf

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

Hello!
Could any one recommend some resources for learning how to use Windows
8 on a laptop with Jaws 14?  Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks!

-- 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] creating a signature line

2013-05-07 Thread inthaneelf
Judy I do not remember you saying anything about checking the check box to
add signatures to outgoing mails, either new or replies?

HTH,
elf

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 8:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] creating a signature line

David, yes, it is the one you made. A mutual friend of ours who is on this
list sent me the link.  I swear that the instructions said signature picker,
but like you said that wasn't there. As far as choosing using up and down
arrows, there were combo boxes at the sig new and sig reply/foreward tabs
that said either none or the signature I typed in. I had them on my
signature. Is that what you meant? Thanks. Judy 

 

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 10:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] creating a signature line

My guess is that you possibly missed the part where you need to select your
signature by up or down arrow.  

It's been well over a year since I did that tutorial so I just refreshed my
memory as to it's contents, no where does it say signature picker. There is
a button that is called stationary picker but I just past over it as it had
nothing to do with the subject of the recording. 

My next recording that I am considering doing will probably be the same
thing in outlook 2007 if time and ability come across my desk. 

Naturally I am presuming you are referring to the recording I made last year
and not somebody else's.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] creating a signature line

Hello, I am new to the list; what a wonderful resource,

 

I was directed to the tutorial on how to create a signature line using
Windows 7 with Office Outlook 2003. when tabbing through I did not find a
tab called signature picker, but one just called signature. I used that and
followed the directions. Then when I sent a test message, there was no
signature. I checked again and in the signature new and signature
reply/forward tabs my signature was showing. My question is whether there is
a keystroke to press before sending an email that will put the signature in
there. Thanks. Judy  Tallie 

 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws-compatible Terabites

2013-05-01 Thread inthaneelf
no, the auto install software means that it has a program on it that is
supposed to assist you with using your drive effectively, such as a
automated backup program and/or its users manuals. its not something I would
wish for since I do not want to have to tell my drive no, as I said before,
I do not want that when I plug it in and/or turn it on. 

plug and play items are ones that you plug it in it beeps and loads the
drivers it needs and your ready to use it. 

take care,
inthaneelf
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Behalf Of DGCNC
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 4:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws-compatible Terabites

What that means I think is that if you buy a however many terrabyte external

drive, you plug it into a usb port and the computer and your external drive 
do what is needed for them to talk to each other without you having to do 
anything like run some program. Some people call this plug and play meaning 
you plug it in and you are ready to go after it makes a sound the first time

you plug it in.

-Original Message- 
From: Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 4:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws-compatible Terabites

Mellissa is my pen name, I ran out of room to add that to my signature.

Yes, I'm looking for an external hard drive that works with Jaws. I read
that terabites come with auto-installing software.

Mellissa Green


@GreenNovelist


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Duck
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws-compatable Terabites

Mellissa,
So, you are asking about an external hard drive?  Like others, I am confused
about what you are asking.
Thanks,
Scott Duck

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws-compatable Terabites

I'm planning to have data from an old Xp laptop transferred to it. Then I'll
probably transfer it to my Win 8 laptop. What more info do you need?

Mellissa Green


@GreenNovelist

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Behalf Of tim
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 6:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws-compatable Terabites

Need more info, because jaws has nothing to do with question asked.

At 06:49 AM 4/30/2013, you wrote:
What are Jaws-compatable terrabites?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

2013-05-01 Thread inthaneelf
many such answers are in my windows live mail help file downloadable from my
website:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

regards,
inthaneelf

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Behalf Of DGCNC
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 4:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

I have a new Windows 7 machine and would like to import the saved messages
from the old hard drive. Can I somehow pull these old messages into the new
program so I have everything together? And, where do I set to delete the
Deleted message folder on close of Windows Live Mail on the new machine? It
used to be something I could set in Options I'm almost positive but for the
life of me, I don't see that in this new ribbon system. I even turned on the
Ribbon control of Jaws to try and tame the ribbons!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws-compatible Terabites

2013-04-30 Thread inthaneelf
ah, now you have cleared things up, most of us probably haven't herd of that
particular drive so you need to be more clear in your questions, which is
what David was trying to tell you

I work in the hardware industry and have never herd of that drive. 

for the main part you would be easier to use windows explorer to move data,
or a backup program that you know is accessible. 

Microsoft sync toy works, Karen's replacator works good for non-operating
system data copying, and just copying and pasting the various folders from
the computer to the drive works alright as well, if you don't mind doing the
work by hand. 

HTH,
inthane

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 4:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws-compatible Terabites

Mellissa is my pen name, I ran out of room to add that to my signature.

Yes, I'm looking for an external hard drive that works with Jaws. I read
that terabites come with auto-installing software.

Mellissa Green


@GreenNovelist


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Duck
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws-compatable Terabites

Mellissa,
So, you are asking about an external hard drive?  Like others, I am confused
about what you are asking.
Thanks,
Scott Duck

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws-compatable Terabites

I'm planning to have data from an old Xp laptop transferred to it. Then I'll
probably transfer it to my Win 8 laptop. What more info do you need?

Mellissa Green


@GreenNovelist

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of tim
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 6:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws-compatable Terabites

Need more info, because jaws has nothing to do with question asked.

At 06:49 AM 4/30/2013, you wrote:
What are Jaws-compatable terrabites?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Music transfer?

2013-04-29 Thread inthaneelf
with most CD's you will need an intervening step, since files on
professional CD's are in .cda and players can use several but not that one. 

now then you could setup a CD ripping program to take, convert and transfer
them to the player, and move the rip to setting when necessary. 

I normally rip to my computer, so I have a copy of the songs I want, and
then move the ripped mp3's to my backup server/drives and my player, but I
do know that I could set up my ripper, CDEX to rip, convert and place them
on another drive (which your player will register as). 

if your working with an iPod you will need to do the three stage transfer
though, most rippers will require this to move from .cda to .m4a.

inthane

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dan McCurley
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Music transfer?

I would think you could do this easily; try loading your cod, then select 
all the tracks on it and paste them onto your mp3 player.  See if that 
works.
- Original Message - 
From: Rich rcha...@bellsouth.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:48 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Music transfer?


 Hi all,
   I have 14 and XP pro.
 This topic is new to me so please be gentle.

 I want an efficient way to transfer/copy music from my CD's on to an MP3 
 player.
 Is there a program to do this quickly/easily?
 Do you have to burn the music on the hard drive first, or is there some 
 way to copy the info directly from CD to the MP3 player?


 Thanks for any help.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about using Mail Clients with JAWS

2013-04-26 Thread inthaneelf
alright, there is a downloadable package on my website with a batch of info
in it on using WLM:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
 but here is the setup guide out of it for you quoted from the original
emailing:
 From: blindwind...@yahoogroups.com on behalf of David Whitehead
[davidwhitehead1...@cogeco.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 3:20 AM
To: blindwind...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [blindwindows] More problems with windows live mail
  
hello there;
my first thought is,
do you have the view setup properly in windows live mail on the computers
which are giving you the problems?

Here's some instructions for setting the view in wlm2011.

while in Wlm,

 Try the following; Note; These instructions assume that you don't have 
 the jaws ribbon feature turned on.

 Yu need to:
 Go into the view menu,
 Set the;
 Message list drop down;
To one line view,
 So,
 Alt+v=view,
 use the tab key, ,
 until you hear message drop down,
 Press enter.
 Now tab and select, one line view press enter.

 Next,
 Alt+v=view,
 use the tab key, until you hear; Reading pane drop down press enter.
 Now tab to off, press enter.

 Next,
 Alt+v=view,
 use the tab key,
 until you hear;
 Calendar pane,
 If it says,
 Calendar pane pressed,
 Press enter this turns off the calendar pane.
Next,
Follow the above steps,
Alt+v=view,
Using the tab key, if you hear;
Quick views button pressed,
Press the enter key to turn off.
Next,
Depending on how you want to receive your messages, Ascending or descending,
Alt+v=view,
Use the tab key until you hear;
Sort order drop down,
Enter or spacebar,
Make your choice press enter.

 By the way, there are key strokes to do this, however, I thought it 
 best for folks to learn how to navigate the menus.

-Original Message- 

HTH,
elf
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 12:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about using Mail Clients with JAWS

What changes would you suggest to make WLM more accessable by screen reader?

Many thanks! Vicky

-Original Message- 
From: inthaneelf
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 3:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about using Mail Clients with JAWS

ah, I'm sorry but windows live mail works well with jaws 13, I should know I
use it along with outlook for my various email accounts

now then, windows mail, which was introduced in vista is available in
windows 7, you just need someone who is confident with .reg file
installation to make a few changes and make sure you have downloaded service
pack 1 for windows 7 before you install the windows mail retrieval package.

other alternatives for a mail client are mazilla thunderbird, Eudora 7.0 and
as I mentioned outlook 2003, 2007, 2010, and apparently (not well documented
yet) 2013, which although it is not free, if you have an ms office suite you
should have it on the disk(s) or it can be bought for around 45 dollars with
some smart shopping.

you appear to have my trouble with mail clients like thunderbird, although
your blaming jaws, they are vastly different and unless you take the time to
fathom, setup, and master them there going to kick your booty when trying to
change from OE to thunderbird or Eudora. and even windows mail and/or live
mail and outlook have enough differences that you need to slow down and pay
strict attention to what your doing and find some help sheets tutorials
and/or helpful websites.

regards,
inthane
take care,
inthane

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of RAVI
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:07 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Question about using Mail Clients with JAWS

Hello everybody
This is my first email to this group and I am happy to join this mailing
list. Actually, I have been searching since long ago for a kind of mail
client that can be used well with JAWS. I have been using Outlook Express in
Win98 and then in WinXP since 12 years ago. Now I am dismayed to find this
client missing its place in Windows 7. I have tried lots of various mail
clients to find an alternative, but all in vain. Windows Live Mail is not
well compatible with JAWS 10, 11 or 13. I have not tried it with JAWS 14.
About Mozilla Thunderbird , I didn't know which version to use, but its
latest version was not compatible with JAWS either. I have tried various
other clients too, but none of them was good. This is the main reason I am
still working with WinXP as my main OS rather than Win7. Please tell me
which mail client is best compatible with JAWS? Tell me the exact version of
the main client and JAWS please.

Javad Hoseini
انجمن پژوهشي آسيب هاي بينايي (راوي)
Research Association for Visual Impairments
www.IranRAVI.com
Skype: IranRAVI
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws cursor not following PC cursor

2013-04-24 Thread inthaneelf
the trouble is you missed a step, on a webpage you need to stop the auto
read of the page, then update the page (the trick they use for the page
reading is to cause the pc cursor to move from top to bottom of the page in
a read all type manover, and cause the virtual to follow, thus you start the
reading and keep going down the page, to get things lined up you need to
stop the auto read, make sure your virtual cursor is on the correct spot,
refresh the screen (insert and escape) and then do the route jaws to pc.

this doesn't always get you where you wanted to go, dynamic pages are
notorious for making things extremely hard to get at now a days, but if the
thing is  accessible at all, then this is the way to get at it.

HTH,
inthane
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 10:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws cursor not following PC cursor

Hi

In IE, when JAWS is using the virtual cursor, I have never seen routing the
JAWS cursor to the virtual pc cursor come anywhere close to the actual
position on the screen.  I have not use Fire Fox that much to have tried it.
I recall some previous version of JAWS where Freedom Scientific said they
had resolved this issue, but I've never seen any evidence of that.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Shari
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 07:26
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws cursor not following PC cursor

Hi All,

When I route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor, I'm not in the same place as
I was with the PC cursor. I need to route the Jaws cursor to the PC to click
a control Jaws 13 isn't recognizing with either IE or Firefox. When I route
the Jaws cursor, it either switches me to another open program, or it just
reads a small amount of text no matter whether the cursor is in real, focus,
unrestricted, etc. I guess somehow the 2 cursors have become unattached. Can
someone please tell me how to get them back together?


Thank you,
Shari

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about using Mail Clients with JAWS

2013-04-23 Thread inthaneelf
ah, I'm sorry but windows live mail works well with jaws 13, I should know I
use it along with outlook for my various email accounts

now then, windows mail, which was introduced in vista is available in
windows 7, you just need someone who is confident with .reg file
installation to make a few changes and make sure you have downloaded service
pack 1 for windows 7 before you install the windows mail retrieval package. 

other alternatives for a mail client are mazilla thunderbird, Eudora 7.0 and
as I mentioned outlook 2003, 2007, 2010, and apparently (not well documented
yet) 2013, which although it is not free, if you have an ms office suite you
should have it on the disk(s) or it can be bought for around 45 dollars with
some smart shopping. 

you appear to have my trouble with mail clients like thunderbird, although
your blaming jaws, they are vastly different and unless you take the time to
fathom, setup, and master them there going to kick your booty when trying to
change from OE to thunderbird or Eudora. and even windows mail and/or live
mail and outlook have enough differences that you need to slow down and pay
strict attention to what your doing and find some help sheets tutorials
and/or helpful websites.

regards,
inthane
take care,
inthane

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of RAVI
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:07 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Question about using Mail Clients with JAWS

Hello everybody
This is my first email to this group and I am happy to join this mailing
list. Actually, I have been searching since long ago for a kind of mail
client that can be used well with JAWS. I have been using Outlook Express in
Win98 and then in WinXP since 12 years ago. Now I am dismayed to find this
client missing its place in Windows 7. I have tried lots of various mail
clients to find an alternative, but all in vain. Windows Live Mail is not
well compatible with JAWS 10, 11 or 13. I have not tried it with JAWS 14.
About Mozilla Thunderbird , I didn't know which version to use, but its
latest version was not compatible with JAWS either. I have tried various
other clients too, but none of them was good. This is the main reason I am
still working with WinXP as my main OS rather than Win7. Please tell me
which mail client is best compatible with JAWS? Tell me the exact version of
the main client and JAWS please.

Javad Hoseini
انجمن پژوهشي آسيب هاي بينايي (راوي)
Research Association for Visual Impairments
www.IranRAVI.com
Skype: IranRAVI
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Charter Webmail

2013-04-23 Thread inthaneelf
got you, and it sounded like folks might be persuaded that charter was
unusable so wanted to make sure that it got given a clearer picture and
folks knew that it can be done this  way, but not that way type thing. 

take care and sorry your having trouble with it,
inthane

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Charter Webmail

Hi Elf,

The original question was me asking if anyone knew how to havigate Charter 
Webmail.  I don't have any problems with my email client, Outlook Express  
Charter but, I wanted to look at some settings on the charter Website / 
Webmail to see if Webmail was stopping me from receiving certain emails. 
So, I was asking if anyone had any tips on navigating Charter's Webmail.  I 
found out that it is flash based so attempting to navigate it would be damn 
near impossible!  However, I did make a change to in settings that made a 
little easier to navigate but, accessing any messages was still impossible. 
Thank you very much for your reply.  Also, Marvin thank you for your input 

replies as well.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Marvin Atkins
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Charter Webmail


Hi elf,

Using Charter mail with a mail client is not a problem. Accessing your mail
on the Charter mail web site is the problem. It's practically all graphics.

Marvin
- Original Message - 
From: inthaneelf inthane...@roadrunner.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Charter Webmail


thank you, now I know of two who do this, smile

take care,
elf
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Ryan West
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 1:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Charter Webmail

I am one of the charter.net users and I use windows live mail with no
problems.

Sincerely, Ryan West

-Original Message- 
From: inthaneelf
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 10:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Charter Webmail

a note folks, I have seen a blind computer user with charter as there net
provider. probably uses a mail client to access her mail account since two
of you say its inaccessible

HTH,
inthane
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 6:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Charter Webmail

Hi Marvin,

Thank you very much for your reply.  You have confirmed that I'm not the
only 1 that can't navigate Charter's webmail  I can stop wasting time
trying to do so!
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Marvin Atkins
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Charter Webmail


Mike,

In my experience, Charter Web mail is useless with JAWS. I eventually gave
up trying to work with it. I changed to Gmail.

Sorry I was no help,
Marvin
- Original Message - 
From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net
To: Jaws-Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 8:33 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Charter Webmail


Hi All,

Can anyone provide tips for navigating Charter webmail?  I have tried with
XP / IE8, Win7 / IE10, J13  14 without success.  Jaws mostly reports an
unlabeled number  embedded object.  I can navigate using the letter, B,
from button to button but, there are so many unlabeled number embedded
objects between lines of text that it's almost impossible to determine
exactly what you are on!  It would be greatly appreciated if someone has
navigation tips to make navigating Charter webmail any easier.  All help
will be graciously accepted!  Thank you very much for any help.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Where can I find webvisum?

2013-04-21 Thread inthaneelf
pardon, there is a link where you can sign yourself in/up and send yourself
a message with the password in it, near the bottom of the page

inthaneelf
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Angela Delicata
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 9:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Where can i find webvisum?

www.webvisum.com
you need invitation code. Somebody has to send you one.
 

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ingram
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 6:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Where can i find webvisum?

Hi list members, I'd like to know where can I find this capta decoding
software package?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Charter Webmail

2013-04-21 Thread inthaneelf
thank you, now I know of two who do this, smile

take care,
elf
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Ryan West
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 1:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Charter Webmail

I am one of the charter.net users and I use windows live mail with no 
problems.

Sincerely, Ryan West

-Original Message- 
From: inthaneelf
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 10:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Charter Webmail

a note folks, I have seen a blind computer user with charter as there net
provider. probably uses a mail client to access her mail account since two
of you say its inaccessible

HTH,
inthane
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 6:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Charter Webmail

Hi Marvin,

Thank you very much for your reply.  You have confirmed that I'm not the
only 1 that can't navigate Charter's webmail  I can stop wasting time
trying to do so!
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Marvin Atkins
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Charter Webmail


Mike,

In my experience, Charter Web mail is useless with JAWS. I eventually gave
up trying to work with it. I changed to Gmail.

Sorry I was no help,
Marvin
- Original Message - 
From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net
To: Jaws-Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 8:33 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Charter Webmail


Hi All,

Can anyone provide tips for navigating Charter webmail?  I have tried with
XP / IE8, Win7 / IE10, J13  14 without success.  Jaws mostly reports an
unlabeled number  embedded object.  I can navigate using the letter, B,
from button to button but, there are so many unlabeled number embedded
objects between lines of text that it's almost impossible to determine
exactly what you are on!  It would be greatly appreciated if someone has
navigation tips to make navigating Charter webmail any easier.  All help
will be graciously accepted!  Thank you very much for any help.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Charter Webmail

2013-04-19 Thread inthaneelf
a note folks, I have seen a blind computer user with charter as there net
provider. probably uses a mail client to access her mail account since two
of you say its inaccessible

HTH,
inthane
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 6:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Charter Webmail

Hi Marvin,

Thank you very much for your reply.  You have confirmed that I'm not the 
only 1 that can't navigate Charter's webmail  I can stop wasting time 
trying to do so!
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Marvin Atkins
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Charter Webmail


Mike,

In my experience, Charter Web mail is useless with JAWS. I eventually gave
up trying to work with it. I changed to Gmail.

Sorry I was no help,
Marvin
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From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net
To: Jaws-Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 8:33 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Charter Webmail


Hi All,

Can anyone provide tips for navigating Charter webmail?  I have tried with
XP / IE8, Win7 / IE10, J13  14 without success.  Jaws mostly reports an
unlabeled number  embedded object.  I can navigate using the letter, B,
from button to button but, there are so many unlabeled number embedded
objects between lines of text that it's almost impossible to determine
exactly what you are on!  It would be greatly appreciated if someone has
navigation tips to make navigating Charter webmail any easier.  All help
will be graciously accepted!  Thank you very much for any help.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] More on my friend's issues with OE

2013-04-17 Thread inthaneelf
has he tried maximizing it again, it sounds like it has gotten reduced to
the in-between size that office apps can go into so is not displaying the
whole window properly to jaws, thus it is not able to say things properly
alt and spacebar, then x to maximize the window, do this to the general
window first, then you can try it in a message window, though this last one
doesn't (most of the time) make much of a difference

inthane
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 6:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] More on my friend's issues with OE

He says:
I'm not sure what alt B toggles.  I forgot to say that I also lost the word
Subject, on the subject line.  It just says, Edit, and I have to guess if
I'm on the right line.  In fact, all the lines, Subject, CC and Name all
just say,  Edit.  And I also notice that when I hit the back key to erase a
word or letter, it does not tell me what I am erasing.  But I've checked all
of the places I  have gone to in the past to make adjustments or changes,
and none of them help.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] opening old document

2013-04-13 Thread inthaneelf
there is a free Microsoft application called word view, it acts as a word
document viewer and you can save items to .rtf (word pad or jarte) or as
.txt (notepad and many others)

just go to: 
www.microsoft.com/downloads
and input word viewer into the search field there

HTH,
inthane

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Becky Buckner
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 2:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] opening old document

Hi all.
I have an old document that I can no longer open.  I think it was made using
MS Word 97 and 2003.  I am currently using Windows 7 with JFW 14 and no
longer have MS Word.  I have been able to open some .doc files with JART,
but not this particular file.  Any suggestions? 

Thanks.

Becky
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.

2013-04-10 Thread inthaneelf
as I remember it, the repair option is specific to the version that is
installed. so to repair my J13.0.1006-64bit I need the installation file for
it, and not another version!

even using a jaws 13 version with a different set of numbers after the dot
will not work, install that version,  then you can repair it

HTH,
inthane
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rich Hamel
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 6:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.

I will give it a shot.
I did try to download 14 at my work computer in order to run a repair.
However, after installing the set up, I got a message that I needed to
uninstall my existing 14 first.

Is that right.
I guess, why run a repair and not just re install the 14.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: inthaneelf inthane...@roadrunner.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 1:19 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.


 if so, then remove 14, reinstall 13, then add 14 to the batch.

 then setup hotkeys for both j13 and j14, I use control shift and 3 and 4
 myself, then you can use 14 as your normal reader, and change to 13 for
 outlook express. I would as well complain to fs and they might, say might!
 fix it for us, XP is low in favor so they may or may not.

 hth,
 inthane
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Rich
 Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 6:01 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.

 Hey all,
   I was able to copy e mails on my second computer today.
 However, when I updated to the latest JAWS version, I was not able to copy
 e

 mails in OE.

 Again, what can I do?
 It must be a JAWS issue.

 Rich


 - Original Message - 
 From: Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 4:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.


 Rich,

 Are you certain you are doing control-a and control-c?


 Click run, type clipbrd and press enter.
 Sometimes, the clipboard seems to get stuck.  While you have the viewer
 open, go to its Edit menu and click Delete. Close the viewer.  Does
 cut/copy
 -- paste work now?

 Also, make sure your anti-virus program doesn't have some kind of spam
 blocker turned on.  I am aware of instances where Norton Anti-Spam
 prevented copying and passting to the clipboard.
 Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

 Steve
 Lansing, MI

 Mike, no luck.
 I still get copy and cut as unavailable.

 Rich
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mike B. 
 mb69ma...@charter.net
 To: 
 jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 2:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.

 Hi Rich,

 Try rebooting  see if that helps.  I'm running the same OS with OE 
 not
 having any problems.
 Take care.
 Mike
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 - Original Message - 
 From: Rich
 To:
 jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 9:00 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.


 Hi all,
 I have XP and 14.0
 For some reason, I am not able to copy e mail messages.
 I hit Control A  to select the message but when I hit control C or, menu
 bar
 to edit arrow down to copy, I hear unavailable.

 This has never happened before.

 Thanks.

 Rich
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 - Original Message - 
 From: Rich rcha...@bellsouth.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 2:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.


 Mike, no luck.
 I still get copy and cut as unavailable.

 Rich
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 2:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.


 Hi Rich,

 Try rebooting  see if that helps.  I'm running the same OS with OE 
 not
 having any problems.
 Take care.
 Mike
 This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Rich
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 9:00 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.


 Hi all,
 I have XP and 14.0
 For some reason, I am not able to copy e mail messages.
 I hit Control A  to select the message but when I hit control C or,
 menu

 bar
 to edit arrow down to copy, I hear unavailable.

 This has never happened before.

 Thanks.

 Rich
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.

2013-04-09 Thread inthaneelf
the person who was saying that definitely didn't read your message correctly
since I saw that the first time.

I will check this out for myself tomorrow, I have the ability to update to
14, and I have a comp that is still running windows XP (actually 2, but one
is easily fixable).

I just haven't with all the troubles I have seen reported, I was waiting
until it was necessary, as is now the case, or they finally seemed to get it
working correctly which I have seen no example of that as of yet.

inthane

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rich Hamel
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 6:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.

Thanks for your suggestions.
For clarification, I originally was able to copy e mails on my second home 
computer. However, that same night I heard a message fromJAWS 
indicating the update was available. Therefore, I installed it.
It was just after that, that  I noticed I wasn't able to copy messages 
anymore.
I was thinking back to when my work computer stopped accepting my password 
and it occurred to me it was right after downloading the JAWS update there.
The virtual clip board sounds interesting but, why on 2 computers?

Thanks for any ideas.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.


 Well, you said you couldn't copy email to the clipboard a couple days ago.

 Now, you say on your second computer you can.

 Since I know several other people have Jaws 14 with Outlook Express 
 without this problem, I'm not sure you can conclude yet that it is a Jaws 
 issue.

 On the same computer where you have Jaws installed where you can't copy to

 the clipboard from within OE, have you tried loaded a demo of another 
 screen-reader such as Window-eyes 7.5 or 8.1, or NVDA?  Can you copy to 
 the clipboard using one of those screen-readers?

 If so, then there may be an issue with Jaws not clearing the virtual 
 cllipboard.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rich rcha...@bellsouth.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 9:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.


 Hey all,
   I was able to copy e mails on my second computer today.
 However, when I updated to the latest JAWS version, I was not able to 
 copy e mails in OE.

 Again, what can I do?
 It must be a JAWS issue.

 Rich


 - Original Message - 
 From: Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 4:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.


 Rich,

 Are you certain you are doing control-a and control-c?


 Click run, type clipbrd and press enter.
 Sometimes, the clipboard seems to get stuck.  While you have the viewer 
 open, go to its Edit menu and click Delete. Close the viewer.  Does 
 cut/copy
 -- paste work now?

 Also, make sure your anti-virus program doesn't have some kind of spam 
 blocker turned on.  I am aware of instances where Norton Anti-Spam 
 prevented copying and passting to the clipboard.
 Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

 Steve
 Lansing, MI

 Mike, no luck.
 I still get copy and cut as unavailable.

 Rich
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mike B. 
 mb69ma...@charter.net
 To: 
 jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 2:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.

 Hi Rich,

 Try rebooting  see if that helps.  I'm running the same OS with OE  
 not
 having any problems.
 Take care.
 Mike
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 - Original Message - 
 From: Rich
 To:
 jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 9:00 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.


 Hi all,
 I have XP and 14.0
 For some reason, I am not able to copy e mail messages.
 I hit Control A  to select the message but when I hit control C or, 
 menu bar
 to edit arrow down to copy, I hear unavailable.

 This has never happened before.

 Thanks.

 Rich
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 - Original Message - 
 From: Rich rcha...@bellsouth.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 2:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.


 Mike, no luck.
 I still get copy and cut as unavailable.

 Rich
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 2:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.


 Hi Rich,

 Try 

Re: [JAWS-Users] when using jaws 14 latest the following happens

2013-04-09 Thread inthaneelf
h, adding some punctuation would make this message a lot more readable
neighbor!

please?
the elf
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jamie
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 6:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] when useing jaws 14 latest the following happens

Hi all 
When using jaws 14 latest the following happens when i type i saw your note
the word saw sounds high pitched i am just wondering if its a bug in the
default voice any advice about this wood be grate full using windows7  32
bit 
Thank you for your help that you maybe be able to give me 
Jamie 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Pass wording Folders/Files

2013-04-09 Thread inthaneelf
there are a couple encryption applications that are useable to encrypt
anything from a file to an entire drive depending on what you want. 

the most well used of these that I know of is truecrypt(you will have to
google the address),

although pass wording with applications like WinRar and the built in file
pass wording abilities of Microsoft office work, as in you can't open the
file without getting the password, its far far harder to unencrypt a file
done in truecrypt, than to crack open a .rar, or MS Office locked file.

HTH,
inthane
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gena
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 1:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Passwording Folders/Files

Trish,
I do not know about folders but, it is very easy to password a zipped file 
using the program WinRAR. Just zip up your file or folder in the .RAR format

and you will have the option to give it a password and you are good to go. 
I use it for important information that I keep on my computer.  It only 
takes a couple of seconds to unzip when I need the file and I do not have to

worry about anyone getting into my private information. I am a JAWS user and

it is very screen reader friendly.

Hope this helps,
Gena



-Original Message- 
From: Trish
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 8:02 AM
To: jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Passwording Folders/Files

Can this be done on Window's 7 and using Office 2003?

Thanks,

Trish

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.

2013-04-08 Thread inthaneelf
hmmm, just a guess, but make sure the outlook express window is maximized,
and then do the same to the message window and see if that helps.

I can't think of anything else at the moment but if it doesn't clear up in a
day or so (or if no one else comes up with something) I'll go check through
my oldest archives and see if I find something about this.

regards,
inthane

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rich
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 11:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.

Mike, no luck.
I still get copy and cut as unavailable.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.


 Hi Rich,

 Try rebooting  see if that helps.  I'm running the same OS with OE  not
 having any problems.
 Take care.
 Mike
 This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Rich
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 9:00 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.


 Hi all,
 I have XP and 14.0
 For some reason, I am not able to copy e mail messages.
 I hit Control A  to select the message but when I hit control C or, menu 
 bar
 to edit arrow down to copy, I hear unavailable.

 This has never happened before.

 Thanks.

 Rich
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.

2013-04-08 Thread inthaneelf
if so, then remove 14, reinstall 13, then add 14 to the batch.

then setup hotkeys for both j13 and j14, I use control shift and 3 and 4
myself, then you can use 14 as your normal reader, and change to 13 for
outlook express. I would as well complain to fs and they might, say might!
fix it for us, XP is low in favor so they may or may not. 

hth,
inthane
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rich
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 6:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.

Hey all,
   I was able to copy e mails on my second computer today.
However, when I updated to the latest JAWS version, I was not able to copy e

mails in OE.

Again, what can I do?
It must be a JAWS issue.

Rich


- Original Message - 
From: Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.


 Rich,

 Are you certain you are doing control-a and control-c?


 Click run, type clipbrd and press enter.
 Sometimes, the clipboard seems to get stuck.  While you have the viewer 
 open, go to its Edit menu and click Delete. Close the viewer.  Does 
 cut/copy
 -- paste work now?

 Also, make sure your anti-virus program doesn't have some kind of spam 
 blocker turned on.  I am aware of instances where Norton Anti-Spam 
 prevented copying and passting to the clipboard.
 Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

 Steve
 Lansing, MI

 Mike, no luck.
 I still get copy and cut as unavailable.

 Rich
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mike B. 
 mb69ma...@charter.net
 To: 
 jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 2:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.

 Hi Rich,

 Try rebooting  see if that helps.  I'm running the same OS with OE  not
 having any problems.
 Take care.
 Mike
 This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Rich
 To:
 jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 9:00 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.


 Hi all,
 I have XP and 14.0
 For some reason, I am not able to copy e mail messages.
 I hit Control A  to select the message but when I hit control C or, menu 
 bar
 to edit arrow down to copy, I hear unavailable.

 This has never happened before.

 Thanks.

 Rich
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 - Original Message - 
 From: Rich rcha...@bellsouth.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 2:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.


 Mike, no luck.
 I still get copy and cut as unavailable.

 Rich
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 2:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.


 Hi Rich,

 Try rebooting  see if that helps.  I'm running the same OS with OE  
 not
 having any problems.
 Take care.
 Mike
 This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Rich
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 9:00 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Can't copy in Outlook Express.


 Hi all,
 I have XP and 14.0
 For some reason, I am not able to copy e mail messages.
 I hit Control A  to select the message but when I hit control C or, menu

 bar
 to edit arrow down to copy, I hear unavailable.

 This has never happened before.

 Thanks.

 Rich
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2007 isn't showing me all attachments in a message.

2013-04-06 Thread inthaneelf
hmmm, a question, 

in windows 7 many menus and lists of files were showing up as a virtual
table, with rows and columns, and you had to navigate them with all four
arrow keys to see all that was there, the control panel is one of these and
so are other selection lists in it. I'm wondering if your list of
attachments is doing the same, so the names your not seeing are in column
two or three? 

open it again and check to see by arrowing to the right once you get into
the list

HTH,
inthane 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim rawls
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 12:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2007 isn't showing me all attachmentsin a
message.

Stephanie, I tried that, and so, I hit alt, and it said attachments sub
menu. I hit
the right arrow, and it said untitled attachments, and I didn't see sage all
attachments. Jim

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Behalf Of
Stephanie Koetje
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 12:02 PM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com'
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2007 isn't showing me all attachments in a
message.

Hi Jim,
Try going to the e-mail but don't open it. Just arrow to it on your Inbox
folder.
Then Press Alt. Down arrow to save attachments sub menu. Right arrow to open
the
sub menu, then down arrow to save all attachments.
I always had a tough time figuring out how to just open without saving, so
this
always worked for me. Good luck.
Stephanie


Original Message-
From: jim rawls [mailto:jazzpi...@ca.rr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 11:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2007 isn't showing me all attachments in a
message.

Hi all, I am running windows 7 with jaws 14. I have outlook 2007. I just
purchased
an amtrak ticket. There are two attachments in the email. One is a thank you
for
using amtrak message, and the other attachments are supposed to be my travel
documents. When I click on that, it reads the message again, the thank you
for
using amtrak. But it isn't showing the ticket information. My sighted wife
could
get to it by using the mouse button, but I can't get to that info. What the
heck am
I doing wrong? I used to be able to do it, but, now I can't. help please.
Jim

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Re: [JAWS-Users] IE10 Download Sounds

2013-04-02 Thread inthaneelf
hi, 

a quickie question here even if a bit behind.

how loud are the rest of your system sounds?

the reason I ask is on windows 7 machines the system sounds and jaws and
your music players all have there own volume settings

if you don't have a shortcut to get there and check this just open the start
menu and type in 
sndvol
into the search field and enter on it

control tab to system sounds and see what your set at

HTH,
inthane
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rose Combs
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 11:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] IE10 Download Sounds

Thanks, I know how to change a sound, or rather I did in Windows 98, have
not tried lately due to time constraints and the fact that I must use Jaws 9
at work and am using 14 at home.  Some days since I have been stressed by
family illness especially I can't seem to figure out how to use either , and
operating systems are XP at work and 7 at home also, not that I can do
anything at work, it is so locked down that probably changing a system sound
there would not even be a possibility.  

I fall behind a lot but refuse to put list mail on my iPhone, much prefer
Outlook 2010 and a real keyboard to deal with that.  The address I set up
for my phone is a well-kept secret, only about four people have it and most
of the messages it gets are one I send from work with info I may need such
as phone numbers that I don't have already in my contacts.  

I only noticed my message sound to tell me to press alt S is quiet because I
was on Bard site getting some books.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 11:15 AM
To: jaws users
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] IE10 Download Sounds

Hi Rose,
you can change it to a different sound if you want.
1. Open the sound dialog from the control panel.
2. Move to the sounds page.
3. Tab to the tree view and select Notification bar.
4. tab to the sounds combo box. By default it's set to windows information
bar.wav. Change it to something else.
 
David.
 
 
original message:
It is barely audible but it does work. 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] transferring files, documents, folders and programs

2013-03-25 Thread inthaneelf
hmmm, your getting a lot of the normal's, there are a couple more depending
on stores around you, your budget and other such things. 

an awkward but useful method is to use data DVD's, more room than a CD and
although permanent, you will then have a permanent copy of all your present
data. 

another one is, and only if you have firewire on at least one of them (we
could hope for both) you can get a (specialty) patch cord for firewire  and
a firewire adaptor for any computer that doesn't have it, that can be used
for a fast computer to computer transfer. 

if you do not have a network (about the fastest method, although the
external drive also gives you a backup drive with files on it to facilitate
the transfer) you can also get specialty patch cables to do a Ethernet cable
network port to network port transfer by using the patch cable to plug the
two computers together and just transferring things across. 

the firewire and networking port cables are not often used by us out here
because usually this would be done once or twice in a persons lifetime and
this is all that these cables are good for. 

you could also setup with carbonite if your old comp is still marginally
functional, and backup to it, then reload your new computer from there,
giving you another way to backup (I use three backups around here to protect
against simultaneous computer and backup failure, and believe me, it can,
and has happened to me!)  which is a good thing, unless you really want to
take a chance on loosing all that, it sounds like you would not like it,
so... 

anyway, hope this helps you decide,
inthaneelf
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of leonard morris
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 12:09 PM
To: jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] transfering files, documents, folders and programs

I would suppose the subject line pretty much says it all. First the bad 
news, I have not been able to resolve my sluggish old HP laptop issues. 
The good news is I purchased my friends brand new barely used Gateway 
laptop. I want to consider the most efficient means for transfering 
files, documents, folders and programs to the new laptop?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] can not open a pdf with jaws

2013-03-22 Thread inthaneelf
not how the infrastructure is built here, supervisor is the first step that
actually can do anything other than give pat tried and true answers to folks
or run small light fixit procedures.

and climbing the corporate ladder hunting satisfaction works quite well for
me, I rarely have more than one instance of a trouble due to my methods of
finding an answer, course I also have a lot of changing supervisors but that
works well usually, grins!

inthane
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Angelo DeMarsico
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 4:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can not open a pdf with jaws

any Banks have a customer Ombudsman: start there and avoid the 
up-the-hierarchy loss of time.Angelo

-Original Message- 
From: inthaneelf
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 1:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can not open a pdf with jaws

ah, then the cure would be to get a hold of the banks internet customer
service personnel and inform them of the anti-accessibility of the method of
there pdf documents (probably if you mention several times that your blind,
and work your way up to the supervisor you will actually be able to get
something done about it, supervisors should realize that they don't want
accessibility troubles for there customers)

HTH,
inthane

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 1:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can not open a pdf with jaws

I had the same issue with my bank, the reason was the author set security
settings in the creation of the file which disables all access technology
unfortunately. Fortunately I can still do online banking quite easily so
life goes on.
David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.
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From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net
To: JFW List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:02 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can not open a pdf with jaws


I am using the latest jaws with win 7 hp 32 bit. I have an e-statement. When

I try to open the pdf file nothing happens and it goes back to the email
positioned on the file. If I take jaws out the pdf file opens. It is a
spottalk statement.
---
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorting in Excel 2010

2013-03-20 Thread inthaneelf
I would appreciate that, thank you

de elf

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Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorting in Excel 2010

Maybe if I have time today, I will call FS Tech Support and see what they
have to say about it.  I'll keep you posted.

Annette


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Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 1:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorting in Excel 2010

ok, thanks for letting me know what happened, sad happenings this

inthane

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Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorting in Excel 2010

When I used Insert+B to read the Sort dialog box, I heard less information
than I can find using Tab.  Using the JAWS cursor to navigate the dialog box
yielded an interesting result.  It read everything that I can find with TAB,
but a lot of it was read together.  I could not find any info that tells me
what level I am on.  The only clue is whether you find an up and/or down
level button.  

Annette


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorting in Excel 2010

perchance use of the read dialog (insert b) command might work in the box to
give you more information? 

this is just a guess from reading your messages, I'm still using office
2003, although I have a fair collection of notes on 2007 and 2010, (and of
course will be adding 2013 notes as they start appearing)

someone try it and let me know if it works? please. 

inthane

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 6:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorting in Excel 2010

Hi Scott,

Unfortunately, I now have more questions about sorting levels in Office 2010
than answers.

I did find that after you add a level, a new button appears in the dialog
box between Copy level and Options.  The name of this button changes between
Move up and Move Down.  When it is labeled Move Down, JAWS announces
Control+Down arrow, and when the button is labeled move Up JAWS 
Control+announces Up Arrow.  If you have more than 2 levels, you will 
Control+find 2 buttons
between Copy Level and Options.  One is labeled Move Down and the other Move
Up.  The Control Arrow commands still correspond in the same way as
described above.  At this point I have not play around with Sort when there
are the 2 buttons.  So the rest of what I have to say relates to when there
is only one of these buttons.

It appears that you can use either Control+Arrows or Space to change this
button.  The problem comes in when you go and look at the values for the
sort.  It does not appear to change, and there is nothing that tells you
what level you are on and how many levels actually exist.  The next step
would be to do some investigating with the JAWS cursor, as well as get some
sighted assistance to get an understanding to what is displayed on the
screen.  

Maybe someone else will jump in and shed more light on this topic.

HTH,
Annette



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Duck
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 11:01 AM
To: Jaws List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sorting in Excel 2010

Hi,

I recently upgraded to Office 2010 from Office 2003.  I have found that
sorting data in Excel, like many things, works differently in Office 2010.
In Excel 2003 and earlier, when sorting data, all of the sort fields are
right there together and you can tab and shift tab back and forth between
them.  In Excel 2010, you set the parameters for one sort level , you add a
level, and then set the parameters for that level .  When you add a level,
JAWS focus moves to the parameters for that level and, as far as I can tell,
you can't go back to the previous level to look at the parameters or change
them.  Is there a easy way to do this?

Thanks,

Scott Duck

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Re: [JAWS-Users] shut down on the desktop

2013-03-20 Thread inthaneelf
oh, now that would be fun (NOT!)

ahahaha, thanks for the extreme amounts of work then

inthane

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 1:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] shut down on the desktop

Thank you Karen, in fact there are over 120 shortcuts on the page in 
question. There is another pertaining to XP as well. Honestly in some cases 
the same shortcut works on both operating systems.

I don't know how long it took me to zip up each and every icon separately 
for download but it was quite a repetitive morning for sure.

The reason for zipping them up in case anybody is interested is simply if I 
had not done that and let's say somebody hit the link for the shutdown icon 
then there system would simply do that very thing.


David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones 
that mind don't matter.
- Original Message - 
From: Karen Schrade kschr...@sbcglobal.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 1:53 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] shut down on the desktop


I'd asked about this for a restart on the desktop. David, our fearless
moderator, has a shortcut to put lots of things, including restart and shut
down on the desktop. Karen

http://www.jaws-users.com/text/Shortcuts/Windows7/index.html

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Re: [JAWS-Users] can not open a pdf with jaws

2013-03-20 Thread inthaneelf
ah, then the cure would be to get a hold of the banks internet customer
service personnel and inform them of the anti-accessibility of the method of
there pdf documents (probably if you mention several times that your blind,
and work your way up to the supervisor you will actually be able to get
something done about it, supervisors should realize that they don't want
accessibility troubles for there customers)

HTH,
inthane

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 1:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can not open a pdf with jaws

I had the same issue with my bank, the reason was the author set security 
settings in the creation of the file which disables all access technology 
unfortunately. Fortunately I can still do online banking quite easily so 
life goes on.
David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones 
that mind don't matter.
- Original Message - 
From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net
To: JFW List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:02 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can not open a pdf with jaws


I am using the latest jaws with win 7 hp 32 bit. I have an e-statement. When

I try to open the pdf file nothing happens and it goes back to the email 
positioned on the file. If I take jaws out the pdf file opens. It is a 
spottalk statement.
---
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with a touch of humor. There is also a very extensive resource list for the 
blind.
http://www.LennyMcHugh.com
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to read a capcia

2013-03-20 Thread inthaneelf
there is this service, see below:

 http://www.azavia.com/zcaptcha.html
 Hello.

 Zcaptcha service at above URL. Costs 18 cents per captcha reading. All 
 instructions are at the above URL. Only drawback I've found is that it 
 can take up to 15min sometimes for the human being on the other side 
 to send back the captcha image as JAWS  readable text.  But hey 
 beggars cant be choosers and I'm just glad such a service now exists 
 and I've been able to successfully and easily use it.

 You are supposed to add money to your account after you create an 
 account via the web page above.  Only way they allow u to add money is via
PayPal.
 So you will have to have a PayPal account.

 Good luck

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Behalf Of Stephanie Koetje
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to read a capcia

Ditto. So, there's no  IO S version?
Stephanie


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-Original Message-
From: John R. Vaughn [mailto:jrvaugh...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 1:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to read a capcia

Thanks to all.  Guess I will be trying to learn how to use the Firefox
browser.
Another opportunity for this retiree to use those little gray cells.
John
- Original Message -
From: tim z200...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to read a capcia


Yep, firefox and webvisum.
http://www.webvisum.com/
At 11:28 AM 3/20/2013, you wrote:
All, I tried to register on the CNBC.com web site and was confronted 
with the ability to read a number I could not see and put the number in 
a field to complete the registration.  I guess this is what a capchia 
is?  Is there any way to use Jaws to try and read a capchia on a web 
site?  Or is the only solution to contact  the web master or  use 
sighted assistance? Thanks for any help. John -Original 
Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
On Behalf Of Lenny capchia McHugh Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 10:16 AM
To:
JFW List Subject: How to read capcia The other day I ran into a problem 
with a capcia on my senatorâ?Ts web page. I then called for the 
information that I needed and mentioned the contact form. They just 
called me to test the page. They found a work around to prevent bots 
from accessing. Since I was able to use it with no problem the code will 
be shared with all of the Pa. senators sites.. --- Please visit my home 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorting in Excel 2010

2013-03-18 Thread inthaneelf
perchance use of the read dialog (insert b) command might work in the box to
give you more information? 

this is just a guess from reading your messages, I'm still using office
2003, although I have a fair collection of notes on 2007 and 2010, (and of
course will be adding 2013 notes as they start appearing)

someone try it and let me know if it works? please. 

inthane

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 6:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorting in Excel 2010

Hi Scott,

Unfortunately, I now have more questions about sorting levels in Office 2010
than answers.

I did find that after you add a level, a new button appears in the dialog
box between Copy level and Options.  The name of this button changes between
Move up and Move Down.  When it is labeled Move Down, JAWS announces
Control+Down arrow, and when the button is labeled move Up JAWS announces
Control+Up Arrow.  If you have more than 2 levels, you will find 2 buttons
between Copy Level and Options.  One is labeled Move Down and the other Move
Up.  The Control Arrow commands still correspond in the same way as
described above.  At this point I have not play around with Sort when there
are the 2 buttons.  So the rest of what I have to say relates to when there
is only one of these buttons.

It appears that you can use either Control+Arrows or Space to change this
button.  The problem comes in when you go and look at the values for the
sort.  It does not appear to change, and there is nothing that tells you
what level you are on and how many levels actually exist.  The next step
would be to do some investigating with the JAWS cursor, as well as get some
sighted assistance to get an understanding to what is displayed on the
screen.  

Maybe someone else will jump in and shed more light on this topic.

HTH,
Annette



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Duck
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 11:01 AM
To: Jaws List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sorting in Excel 2010

Hi,

I recently upgraded to Office 2010 from Office 2003.  I have found that
sorting data in Excel, like many things, works differently in Office 2010.
In Excel 2003 and earlier, when sorting data, all of the sort fields are
right there together and you can tab and shift tab back and forth between
them.  In Excel 2010, you set the parameters for one sort level , you add a
level, and then set the parameters for that level .  When you add a level,
JAWS focus moves to the parameters for that level and, as far as I can tell,
you can't go back to the previous level to look at the parameters or change
them.  Is there a easy way to do this?

Thanks,

Scott Duck

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorting in Excel 2010

2013-03-18 Thread inthaneelf
ok, thanks for letting me know what happened, sad happenings this

inthane

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Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorting in Excel 2010

When I used Insert+B to read the Sort dialog box, I heard less information
than I can find using Tab.  Using the JAWS cursor to navigate the dialog box
yielded an interesting result.  It read everything that I can find with TAB,
but a lot of it was read together.  I could not find any info that tells me
what level I am on.  The only clue is whether you find an up and/or down
level button.  

Annette


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Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:20 AM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorting in Excel 2010

perchance use of the read dialog (insert b) command might work in the box to
give you more information? 

this is just a guess from reading your messages, I'm still using office
2003, although I have a fair collection of notes on 2007 and 2010, (and of
course will be adding 2013 notes as they start appearing)

someone try it and let me know if it works? please. 

inthane

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Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 6:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorting in Excel 2010

Hi Scott,

Unfortunately, I now have more questions about sorting levels in Office 2010
than answers.

I did find that after you add a level, a new button appears in the dialog
box between Copy level and Options.  The name of this button changes between
Move up and Move Down.  When it is labeled Move Down, JAWS announces
Control+Down arrow, and when the button is labeled move Up JAWS 
Control+announces Up Arrow.  If you have more than 2 levels, you will 
Control+find 2 buttons
between Copy Level and Options.  One is labeled Move Down and the other Move
Up.  The Control Arrow commands still correspond in the same way as
described above.  At this point I have not play around with Sort when there
are the 2 buttons.  So the rest of what I have to say relates to when there
is only one of these buttons.

It appears that you can use either Control+Arrows or Space to change this
button.  The problem comes in when you go and look at the values for the
sort.  It does not appear to change, and there is nothing that tells you
what level you are on and how many levels actually exist.  The next step
would be to do some investigating with the JAWS cursor, as well as get some
sighted assistance to get an understanding to what is displayed on the
screen.  

Maybe someone else will jump in and shed more light on this topic.

HTH,
Annette



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Behalf Of Scott Duck
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 11:01 AM
To: Jaws List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sorting in Excel 2010

Hi,

I recently upgraded to Office 2010 from Office 2003.  I have found that
sorting data in Excel, like many things, works differently in Office 2010.
In Excel 2003 and earlier, when sorting data, all of the sort fields are
right there together and you can tab and shift tab back and forth between
them.  In Excel 2010, you set the parameters for one sort level , you add a
level, and then set the parameters for that level .  When you add a level,
JAWS focus moves to the parameters for that level and, as far as I can tell,
you can't go back to the previous level to look at the parameters or change
them.  Is there a easy way to do this?

Thanks,

Scott Duck

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Re: [JAWS-Users] using jaws with a laptop

2013-03-15 Thread inthaneelf
are you sure you do not have any of these keys, my wife's laptop does, so
does my netbook

some are eliminateing the aps key from what I am hearing, but I haven't seen
this yet either.

a tablet with win 8 may not have all the keys your used to though?

inthane

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Behalf Of Scott Meyer
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 2:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] using jaws with a laptop

Dear jaws users;
 I bought a Windows 7 laptop, my first one and I know the keyboard has some
differences i.e no   arrow keys down by space bar or a numbered  key pad +
or- keys i.e no jaws or pc cursors.. 
thanks for any help.
Scott
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Re: [JAWS-Users] deleting a program

2013-03-14 Thread inthaneelf
actually accessible no. useable, if you learn the commands. and as you said
equal to swatting a mosquito with a howitzer

for information's sake, its the old dos and original fat 32 formatting
application that was used to setup the partitions on a drive in the process
of setting up for a completely new reload

you ran F Disk, then Format.com and then reloaded your OS. 

oh my that's a long way back, I remember now going over it with a sighted
assistant and recording, and later typing up the instructions so folks could
do it themselves by rote

take care,
inthane
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Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 7:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] deleting a program

So don't use it then?

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Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 4:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] deleting a program

That is a little like going hunting with a machine gun and besides it is not

accessible. Can you say overkill?
David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones 
that mind don't matter.
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From: Kimsan kimsans...@aol.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] deleting a program


F dis?
Is that a program?

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Behalf Of Jim Redding
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 1:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] deleting a program

f disk
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From: Kimsan kimsans...@aol.com
To: JawsUsers jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:33 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] deleting a program


 Hi,

 I am aware of how to uninstall a program but here is the conflict.

 I have this program called protected folder that I grabbed from give a
 way of the day several months back and apparently to uninstall the
 program,
one
 must enter in a password.

 Two problems, lol.  I don't remember the password or even creating a
 password.

 Does anyone know of a different route I can take to remove this program?

 Thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] deleting a program

2013-03-14 Thread inthaneelf
ah, yes, just so since if you delete the partition you have no drive just
a storage device 

and no, its old tech and no longer truly applies correctly. 

elf

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Behalf Of JOHN HUFFMAN
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 2:39 AM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] deleting a program

I think I'd make very sure I had everything backed up that I wanted to keep.
JH


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Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 10:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] deleting a program

So don't use it then?

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 4:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] deleting a program

That is a little like going hunting with a machine gun and besides it is not

accessible. Can you say overkill?
David Ferrin
[JOHN HUFFMAN] 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Cloud Computer Backup

2013-03-13 Thread inthaneelf
the most useable one I have herd of is carbonite its also a kim commando
sponsored service. 

from what I have seen of it it seems straight forward and others say its
accessible or at least fairly so.
http://www.carbonite.com/lp/media/kim-komando.aspx

HTH,
inthane
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Behalf Of Glenn LeMacher
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 6:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Cloud Computer Backup

Hello list members, I'm giving some thought to using a cloud backup service
for backing up my computer.Anyone on the list using such a item for backing
up there computer. If so could you please recommend one that works well with
Jaws and windows 7.
Many thanks 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Cloud Computer Backup

2013-03-13 Thread inthaneelf
oh hells!

if you think of anything I may have that you would want just let me know, 

I'm usually running three backups of my files due to having had drive
troubles, so I wiped and reloaded, and then during the transfer of my
backups to my reformatted computer the external drive I used for my backups
shorted out (literally) and fried both itself and my reworked computer!

so I know that kind of loss,

as I said anything I might have, just ask
inthane
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Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 7:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Cloud Computer Backup

I wish I would've used that service.
I lost my computer in a fire last week lol.

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Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 11:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Cloud Computer Backup

the most useable one I have herd of is carbonite its also a kim commando
sponsored service. 

from what I have seen of it it seems straight forward and others say its
accessible or at least fairly so.
http://www.carbonite.com/lp/media/kim-komando.aspx

HTH,
inthane
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Behalf Of Glenn LeMacher
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 6:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Cloud Computer Backup

Hello list members, I'm giving some thought to using a cloud backup service
for backing up my computer.Anyone on the list using such a item for backing
up there computer. If so could you please recommend one that works well with
Jaws and windows 7.
Many thanks
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about VLC media player

2013-03-12 Thread inthaneelf
*sigh*

here are some hot keys I was given for VLC. 

I wish folks wouldn't just jump in with such junk and give those who try to
save and distribute these things to those who want them a chance to do so!

From: G.W. Cox gwc...@comcast.net
To: j...@freelists.org
Subject: Re: Using VLC Player with JAWS
Date: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 9:52 AM

Here are some keystrokes my tech dude who swears by VLC sent me. I've had 
little luck getting these to work as described.
Audio Playback :

[M] : Mute On/Off

[Ctrl] + [Up arrow] : Turn Volume up

[Ctrl] + [Down arrow] : Turn Volume Down

[Ctrl] + [Up arrow] : Volume Up

[Ctrl] + [Down arrow] : Volume Down

[Ctrl] + [H] : Subtitle Delay Up

[Ctrl] + [J] : Subtitle Delay Down

General Shortcut Keys :

[T] : Show time Played/time left

[Ctrl] + [Q] : Quit program

[F] : Full screen mode

[Ctrl] + [P] : Playlist

[Ctrl] + [M] : Messages

[Ctrl] + [I] : Stream and Media info

[Ctrl] + [A] : Open capture device

[Ctrl] + [W] : Streaming and Transport Wizard

[Ctrl] + [X] / [Ctrl] + [Q] : Exit

[Ctrl] + [V] : VLM control

[Ctrl] + [G] : Extended GUI

[Ctrl] + [B] : Bookmarks

[Ctrl] + [S] : Preferences

[F] : Full screen

[+] : Play faster

[-] : Play slower

Video Playback Shortcut Keys :

[Space] : Play/pause

[S] : Stop

[N] : Next entry in playlist

[F] : Full screen

[Ctrl] + [O] : Quick open file

[Ctrl] + [O] : Open directory

[Ctrl] + [D] : Open disk

[Ctrl] + [N] : Open network stream

[N] : Next item

[P] : Previous item

[Shift] + [Left Arrow] : Very Short Backwards jump

[Shift] + [Right Arrow] : Very Short Forward jump

[Alt] + [Left arrow] : Backwards jump

[Alt] + [Right arrow] : Forward jump

[Ctrl] + [Left arrow] : Medium backwards jump

[Ctrl] + [Right arrow] : Medium forward jump

[Alt] + [Ctrl] + [Left arrow] : Long backwards jump

[Alt] + [Ctrl] + [Right Arrow] : Long Forward jump

[Enter] : Active

DVD Playback :

[Ctrl] + [M] : Go to DVD menu

[Ctrl] + [P] : Selected previous DVD title

[Ctrl] + [F] : Selected next DVD title

[Ctrl] + [U] : Selected previous DVD chapter

[Ctrl] + [D] : Selected Next DVD Chapter





HTH,
inthane

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Behalf Of tim
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 6:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about VLC media player

Try looking in help under short cut keys.

At 03:59 PM 3/11/2013, you wrote:
Hello all,
I am using JAWS 14 on a windows8 64bit laptop.  I have had to 
download and instal VLC media player to watch some videos for my 
class at school.  Is there any keyboard commands to do things like 
increase/decrease the volume?  If so where can I find them?

Thank you,
Greg Wocher

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Re: [JAWS-Users] IE10

2013-03-11 Thread inthaneelf
there are ways to turn most of that back on

articles are abundant on google searches.

HTH,
inthane

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Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] IE10

I heard the download indication thing is because with ie 9 or 10 there are
no status bars which would explain something right?

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Behalf Of randy tijerina
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 6:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] IE10

I am using iE9 myself.
I'd like to get rid of the way the download dialog box is. i'm used to the
xp way. i'm using windows 7 home. how do i change it or downgrade to 8?
At 08:24 PM 3/10/2013, you wrote:
The biggest problem I have with IE 9 and 10, is the way you download 
files, and that you can't hear the clicks when the page is loading or 
is going to a new one, if those 2 issues could be fixed, I may upgrade 
to 10 again, but right now I am fine with 8.
On Mar 7, 2013, at 8:15 PM, Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com wrote:

  I'm glad you could fix it. But yeah, that's why I too let people 
  know what I'd seen so that they could see that perhaps if it was an 
  IE 10,
 it could be
  one of those unlucky things. I'm glad it's better now.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: JAWS-Users-List 
  [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Scott 
  Duck
  Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 5:03 PM
  To: Jaws List
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] IE10
 
  Hi Everyone,
 
  Recently, I posted to the list about problems that I was having with 
  IE10 instability.  As it turns out, the problem was not IE10.  It was my
router.
  Unknown to me at the time, my wife, who was using IE9 on a
 different machine
  on the same network, had begun to have the same problems with 
  instability that I was having.  When I found out about her problems, 
  I decided to replace the router just to see if that would fix the 
  problem.  It did.  I replaced the router two days ago and have had 
  no problems at all
 sense then.
  I just wanted to let everyone know because I wouldn't want someone 
  who had seen my previous posts on this subject to look unfavorably 
  upon
 upgrading to
  Win 8 or IE10 because of incorrect information that I had posted.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Scott Duck
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] help or suggestions needed please

2013-03-11 Thread inthaneelf
woe folks, slow down a little, 

this may be what is needed but there are other items that can fix this that
should be tried unless as Chris said, there is nothing of real importance on
the computer. 

it may take a tech to run them in safe mode but if anyone can get the
following files from the URL's given, put them on a thumb drive and then run
them on the infected computer, they may well be able to clean the problem
out:

independent download anti-virus hunt and kill files:

download these, on another computer if necessary put them on a thumb drive
and run them. each is updated quite often so new downloads are necessary to
make sure there up to date. 

1. McAfee Stinger
download latest version from:
http://www.mcafee.com/apps/free-tools/termsofuse.aspx?url=/us/downloads/free
-tools/stinger.aspx
* note, if the URL runs onto two lines for you it has been broken by the
mail client, you need to copy the whole thing out, take out the blank spot
in the address and then paste it into a internet browser .

2. Microsoft Safety Scanner:
http://www.microsoft.com/security/scanner/en-us/default.aspx

HTH,
inthane
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Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 1:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] help or suggestions needed please

And if it won't boot to safe mode, he has a decision to make.  If he has 
stuff on it he can't live without, find a tech to pull the stuff off and 
do a factory restore.  If he doesn't care about anything on it, just do 
a factory restore, usually buried under the f8 menu, or sometimes under 
f10 or another key, any of those options must be chosen as soon as the 
pc is powered up.  Usually after the first good infection, there isn't 
any saving it.



On 3/11/2013 12:48, Angel wrote:
 Have him boot into safe mode.  Download anti malware bytes, and run that
 utility.  It will get rid of the problem.
 - Original Message - From: Sugar sugarsy...@sbcglobal.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 11:22 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] help or suggestions needed please


 Hello
 My father is visiting here from S. California, and last night he got a
 pop up from FBI(this is a scam) he did not know and he tried to get
 out of it, and did everything that he knew  how to stop it, when a
 little camera popped up and now his picture is on the screen, again a
 total scam
 so question is hwhat can we do to remove this and now his lap top is
 locked and he can't do anything
 It's a windows 7 and useing office 20010
 Thank you
 Sugar

 Peace Be, Sugar
 I have loved the stars to fondly to be fearful of the
 night.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon ordering form problem

2013-03-05 Thread inthaneelf
odd, that's exactly the setup here and I have no such troubles. 

have you tried rebooting your system lately, I know that around here, more
than a days continuous work and jaws starts getting crabby and doing odd
things to tell me it's time to reboot.

HTH,
inthane
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Behalf Of leonard morris
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 12:38 AM
To: jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] amazon ordering form problem

 I was trying to add a credit card to make a purchase on amazon.com. 
However, after entering the credit card number I tried to use alt down 
arrow to open the combo boxes for expiration date and expiration year 
but when you arrow down to find month or year in these two combo boxes I 
get bounced back in to the edit box for the credit card number. These 
kinds of forms are usually pretty straightforward and I had know issue 
in the past but it's not working correctly now. I am using Jaws v13 and 
windows 7.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] distance is 2 case 1

2013-03-05 Thread inthaneelf
I'm wondering if the format that the item your cutting is in, is triggering
something in transition to (I think you said) excel when you paste it.

two maybe's here:
1. you can look at your control panel, (and wherever regional settings
are)and see if there might be a layout that would make a difference, mine is
all in American English and I haven't run into this on win 7, I think I did
a long time back in win ME and there were two factors one being this, how my
numeric's were set to display and item 2 below. 

2. you might try setting the numeric data value of the column your pasting
into to dollars (or pounds sterling in your case I think) so that it knows
that even if it looks funky its money not distances or formula's. 

control key and space bar
then apps key and f for format cells, (alternative is control key and the 1
on the numbers row)
and then select a category, sometimes just locking it as text in here can
make things work better.

and yes, I did see where you said it was mis copying it in jaws, this is why
I put the regional settings notes first, smile.

really do hope this helps,
inthane
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 7:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] distance is 2 case 1

That's the trouble, most of my cut/paste seems to involve financial 
stuff, so I can't be dure.



On 3/1/2013 22:58, Iaen Cordell wrote:
 have you encountered this problem with any other programs?
 for example cutting and pasting from word to excel?
 I did have the same problem once from a custom app to IE, we resolved
 the porblem by uninstalling and re-installing the custom software.
 cheers
 IC

 - Original Message - From: Chris Hill hil...@earthlink.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 3:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] distance is 2 case 1


 My quicken is 2003, so maybe that is the common factor here, ancient
 quicken.  I guess I could break down and buy a newer version, maybe it
 would help.



 On 3/1/2013 21:50, Rick Justice wrote:
 Hi Chris,
 I have encountered this problem before.
 It has happened with Quicken2001, and Jaws 6.2 on Windows XP Pro.
 I never did find a solution.

 Rick Justice

 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Hill hil...@earthlink.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 7:43 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] distance is 2 case 1


 Strange subject, I know, but I've been having this little problem with
 the latest Jaws 14.  Sometimes I'll go into k1000 or a webpage or
 whatever, and most carefully select something like the amount of a bill
 so I can go paste it into excel or quicken or whatever.  Sometimes I get
 the amount, other times I get the message of distance is 2.  I just got
 this and tried the insert-space then c to see what Jaws claims is in the
 clipboard and it said distance is 2 case 1.  Am I the only one getting
 this?  Has anyone else reported it?  I'm tempted to do so, but I don't
 know if I can make it happen on demand.  The really weird thing this
 time was that when I pasted the first time I got my amount, and the
 second time I pasted I got this.  It is like something aka Jaws is
 playing with the clipboard contents at some point.  I suspect Jaws,
 because this particular frustration has yet to happen with NVDA or
 Window-eyes.




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Re: [JAWS-Users] How do I prevent Firefox from automatically upgrading

2013-03-04 Thread inthaneelf
Jerald, there is a method for turning off the auto update feature in the
options dialog that was posted out here a few days ago.

inthane
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 4:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How do I prevent Firefox from
automaticallyupgrading


Sherry, I'm the guy who explained that you can have two different versions 
of Firefox on your computer at the same time: the regular version, which you

are currently using, and the portable version, which you must install.  I 
suggest that you simply leave your regular version of Firefox 19 intact 
because unless you roll all the way back to Firefox 3.6, it will keep 
updating itself back to Firefox 19 every time you launch it.  So leave 
Firefox 19 alone and use it to access web sites that you know it works with.

Instead, download the portable version of Firefox 15 from the site below and

use it to access those sites with which Firefox 19 is giving you trouble. 
Installing the portable version of Firefox 15 will not overlay your existing

regular version of Firefox 19, and it will work exactly like the regular 
version of Firefox 15.  You can even create a shortcut key to launch it once

you have installed it.  I misspoke in my earlier post, though.  Although you

can have both regular and portable versions of Firefox on your computer at 
the same time, you cannot run them at the same time; you can only run one 
version of Firefox at a time, although you can run either the regular or 
portable version of Firefox at the same time as IE.  You can download the 
portable version of Firefox 15 from:

http://mozilla-firefox-portable.en.uptodown.com/old

Gerald


- Original Message - 
From: Sharon Gosling sillygoo...@gmail.com
To: jawslist jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 7:07 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How do I prevent Firefox from automatically upgrading


 Since Firefox 19 constantly freezes using my Win 7 64 bit Dell laptop with

 Jaws 14 I reinstalled Firefox 15 which was the original version I had 
 installed. I checked and it said Firefox 15. I went through all the 
 options and could not find any that mentioned automatic upgrades.
 But when I opened Firefox the next time it just said Upgrading and it 
 went back to 19.  No choice offered at all.
 So how do I make it stay at version 15?
 I really need it for at least 6 websites that I frequently  use.
 When Firefox freezes it won't quit with any keystrokes including Alt 
 control escape or alt control delete or alt F4 or anything else.
 I have to restart the computer and that is a royal pain.
 I was advised in a previous message that one could have several different 
 versions of Firefox on the computerat the same time.
 When I installed Firefox 15 after having Firefox 19 already on the 
 computer it replaced the version 19.  I went to the control panel remove 
 programs and checked the list to see which versions showed up and it only 
 showed version 15 so I assumed it had replaced the version 19.
 But the first time I tried using it after that it went back to 19.
 Help, please.
 Sherrie Gosling



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Alt Tab

2013-03-04 Thread inthaneelf
I thought someone would have finished this before I got to it, sorry.

just to make sure I will answer, now then have you set your folder options
to display each item as a seperate window?
windows key e, then select c drive then hit alt and t for the tools menu and
enter on folder options. 
you land in the first tab on the first item which is the set of radio
buttons that controls this action select and tab to apply and enter then tab
to ok and enter to get it going

HTH,
inthane

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Behalf Of Scott Duck
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 8:56 AM
To: Jaws List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Alt Tab

Hi,

I have posted about this a couple times before and didn't get much feedback
but I'm going to try again because it's about to drive me crazy.
Previously, up through Windows Vista, I could alt tab between all of the
programs that I had open.  With Windows 7 and now with Windows 8, often I
cannot alt tab between all of them.  I'll give you an example.  I was just
paying a bill online.  I had open Internet Explorer, Notepad (where my
payment info was), and JAWS.  I was in IE and wanted to alt tab to Notepad.
However, when I pressed alt tab, it went from IE to JAWS and would go no
farther when I held alt and continued to press tab.  If I released alt and
then pressed alt tab again, it would go back to IE and would go no farther.
So, only IE and JAWS were in the alt tab order even though Notepad was also
open.  To get to Notepad, I had to use the JAWS window list, which I don't
find as convenient as alt tab.  Has anyone else experienced this and does
anyone have any idea how to fix it?  As I said, this started with Windows 7
but I am now using Windows 8, on a different machine, and am getting the
same behavior.  I upgraded from Windows Vista to Windows 7 at the same time
that I upgraded from JAWS 9 to JAWS 13 (I'm now using JAWS 14).  I don't
know if this is a Windows issue or a JAWS issue or something else.  This is
a small thing but it 

really bugs me so if anyone has any ideas, please speak up.

Thanks,

Scott Duck

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Re: [JAWS-Users] using iTunes to put a ring tone on my phone

2013-03-04 Thread inthaneelf
hi,

I have herd about folks using another program to do this, here is the info I
have (note: they are backward to a degree since the posts are last over
first):
From: blindusersverizonpho...@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Scott Divert
[scottslistm...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 4:55 PM
To: blindusersverizonpho...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [blindusersVerizon] putting ringtones on the iPhone
  
Hi Karen. you can import the mp3 files if you have them on your
computer through iRinger, yes. IRinger will convert the files from mp3
to m4r for you.

Scott

On 7/23/12, Karen Karsh karenkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Scot,
 I have ring tones that I made for my Haven that are mp3
 Can they be converted to mp4 or mp4r and then can I use this iRinger?
 Karen
 - Original Message -
 From: Scott Davert
 To: blindusersverizonpho...@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 6:31 AM
 Subject: Re: [blindusersVerizon] putting ringtones on the iPhone



 iRinger is a great little application for Windows that will create
 ring tones and then import them in to your iTunes library for you. You
 first have to edit the file down, and if you want to use the first 30
 seconds of a track, then you don't have to do anything. The program
 will take the first 30 seconds of the track and use that as the ring
 tone. Ring tones can be a max of 30 seconds. You can find a podcast on
 doing this at:

 
http://www.applevis.com/podcasts/episodes/iringer-free-way-create-iphone-rin
gtones-pc

 HTH,
 Scott

 On 7/22/12, Karen Karsh karenkar...@gmail.com wrote:
  What is that?
  Tell us more about it please.
  Karen
  - Original Message -
  From: Caroline ward
  To: blindusersverizonpho...@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 1:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [blindusersVerizon] putting ringtones on the iPhone
 
 
 
 
  I tried this and could not get it to work. And then I found iringer and
 it
  works well. Caroline
 
hope this helps,
inthane 
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Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 6:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] using iTunes to put a ring tone on my phone

In all honesty it is beyond my ability at this time, if anybody knows how to
do it please send along the information. Not only will I make use of it but
I will also post it on the server.
 
David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 8, was: Re: Cost of upgrading jaws?

2013-03-03 Thread inthaneelf
whenever I notice I will, gladly

sometimes I get in the drone mode and just open and reply typing in the
answer without really analyzing the message to see if things are still
correct, sorry

elf
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Behalf Of Moderator
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 3:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: RE: Windows 8, was: Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

Elf,
Could you change your subject line to reflect the topic?
Thanks,
Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
blind-comput...@jaws-users.com
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

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From: inthaneelf inthane...@roadrunner.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?


arg, no not at all

the blind have been in on the development of windows 8 most of the way along
and able to make suggestions to them about it.

yes, windows 8 has an extensive amount of touch screen usability, but it
also has a good keyboard input. Microsoft was trying to get one program, all
devices worked out, and it will work, if folks will start employing it more
extensively.

windows 8 works perfectly well with jaws 14, there is a whole yahoo group of
us running testing and/or making notes on the OS.

they took out the start menu, and replaced it with some other access method,
but you can still bring up the list in its minimum, and there is a free
application that will put the basic windows classic start menu back in
windows 8.

hope that covers it all well enough,
inthane

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Marilyn Walker
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 5:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

Flor. what's the difference between windows 7 and 8?  Someone told me that 8

is a touch screen system?  Is this true?  Are vision impaired computer users

being forced out of keyboard navigation eventually or what?  Thanks for any
info.  Marilyn
ps  I'm still using xp and hate to see it go.
- Original Message - 
From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?


: Hi Scott,
:
: On both counts: No. You can have Windows7 Home Edition (32-bit or
: 64-bit). All you'd need to do for the 64-bit Home edition would be to
: download the 64-bit Standard edition of JAWS from the FS Web site.
:
: However, Windows8 is now almost universally on sale. You'd probably need
: to go online to buy Windows7. And, for Windows8, you will need JAWS14.
: (Again, Standard JAWS edition for Windows Home Edition.).)
:
: - Original Message - 
: From: Scott Meyer scottt.me...@verizon.net
: To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
: Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 11:24 PM
: Subject: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?
:
:
:  Hi;
:  I have jaws 12 home edition. my XP computeris starting to act up.
:  would I have to upgrade to the professional version to use windows 7?
:  if so what is the cost of that and would I also have to upgrade to
:  Jaws 14  ?  What would be the cost of that?
:  Thanks
:  scott
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

2013-02-27 Thread inthaneelf
arg, no not at all

the blind have been in on the development of windows 8 most of the way along
and able to make suggestions to them about it. 

yes, windows 8 has an extensive amount of touch screen usability, but it
also has a good keyboard input. Microsoft was trying to get one program, all
devices worked out, and it will work, if folks will start employing it more
extensively. 

windows 8 works perfectly well with jaws 14, there is a whole yahoo group of
us running testing and/or making notes on the OS.

they took out the start menu, and replaced it with some other access method,
but you can still bring up the list in its minimum, and there is a free
application that will put the basic windows classic start menu back in
windows 8.

hope that covers it all well enough,
inthane

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Marilyn Walker
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 5:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

Flor. what's the difference between windows 7 and 8?  Someone told me that 8

is a touch screen system?  Is this true?  Are vision impaired computer users

being forced out of keyboard navigation eventually or what?  Thanks for any 
info.  Marilyn
ps  I'm still using xp and hate to see it go.
- Original Message - 
From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?


: Hi Scott,
:
: On both counts: No. You can have Windows7 Home Edition (32-bit or
: 64-bit). All you'd need to do for the 64-bit Home edition would be to
: download the 64-bit Standard edition of JAWS from the FS Web site.
:
: However, Windows8 is now almost universally on sale. You'd probably need
: to go online to buy Windows7. And, for Windows8, you will need JAWS14.
: (Again, Standard JAWS edition for Windows Home Edition.).)
:
: - Original Message - 
: From: Scott Meyer scottt.me...@verizon.net
: To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
: Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 11:24 PM
: Subject: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?
:
:
:  Hi;
:  I have jaws 12 home edition. my XP computeris starting to act up.
:  would I have to upgrade to the professional version to use windows 7?
:  if so what is the cost of that and would I also have to upgrade to
:  Jaws 14  ?  What would be the cost of that?
:  Thanks
:  scott
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:  http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
: 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

2013-02-27 Thread inthaneelf
actually I would recommend you use either windows live mail, or the hidden
windows mail (which, both are very similar to outlook express in function)
the internal structure of windows 7 has been largely rebuilt, many things
that could have been put together have been, the start menu has changed its
shape and style, sort of like vista's but a bit more so, and works well.
the biggest things that folks notice when first starting up in w7 is when
they hit the windows key they end up in a search box, type in what your
looking for, or even the first few letters and you will get the first thing
windows thinks your looking for in the field your typing in, and a list
under it of other things that might be what your looking for. 

this sounds like it would be awkward and slow, but it really does get quite
fast and it works fairly well once you find out or get told a few things
about searching in w7.

the other thing is the empty desktop, this can and will work, and can be
left as is, or can be changed once you learn where a few things are located.

there is as well a free application that changes you back to the XP classic
menu, if you really want it (I gave/installed this on my wife's computer
since she was having a real problem with the new styled menus), where as I
have kept and adapted to the new system of w7

a few things have new names, a few applications are easier to use, a couple
(a very small amount) are a bit more difficult since they don't respond like
they used to, but over all win 7 is a good OS except for the lack of outlook
express showing on it (as I mentioned above windows mail is in there and
there is a set of easy re-work files to get it running again).

I have a first use tutorials and reference works file, and a windows 7
helpful hints downloadable zip file at my grab bag site for anyone who wants
to get them. I have been told they are very helpful to those starting up in
win 7.
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

HTH,
inthane
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

Marilyn
I know what you mean, I am still handing on to my xp, but really thinkging 
of turning my lap top to windows 7, I have the program, but have not 
converted.
My desk top is xp though
mostly because I love love outlook express.
now that I am on the topic, what are the differences between xp and windows 
7?
besides I won't be able to use outlook express, but I think outlook is now 
what I would use,right?
any feed back to ease my mind wold be appreciated. a very nervous Sugar
smile

~Peace Be, Sugar
I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night.
 

   ~~ Galileo
- Original Message - 
From: Marilyn Walker mlw1...@sbcglobal.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?


 Flor. what's the difference between windows 7 and 8?  Someone told me that

 8
 is a touch screen system?  Is this true?  Are vision impaired computer 
 users
 being forced out of keyboard navigation eventually or what?  Thanks for 
 any
 info.  Marilyn
 ps  I'm still using xp and hate to see it go.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 6:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?


 : Hi Scott,
 :
 : On both counts: No. You can have Windows7 Home Edition (32-bit or
 : 64-bit). All you'd need to do for the 64-bit Home edition would be to
 : download the 64-bit Standard edition of JAWS from the FS Web site.
 :
 : However, Windows8 is now almost universally on sale. You'd probably need
 : to go online to buy Windows7. And, for Windows8, you will need JAWS14.
 : (Again, Standard JAWS edition for Windows Home Edition.).)
 :
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: Scott Meyer scottt.me...@verizon.net
 : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 : Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 11:24 PM
 : Subject: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?
 :
 :
 :  Hi;
 :  I have jaws 12 home edition. my XP computeris starting to act up.
 :  would I have to upgrade to the professional version to use windows 7?
 :  if so what is the cost of that and would I also have to upgrade to
 :  Jaws 14  ?  What would be the cost of that?
 :  Thanks
 :  scott
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

2013-02-27 Thread inthaneelf
would you please send out the URL for that download, I have such files
myself, available off my grab bag site, but like to compare and see who has
the most up to date and complete set

thanks,
inthane
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scorpio
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 6:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

Hi Sugar,

Though not commonly known, there is a version of Outlook Express included
with Windows 7, just hidden from users so they can purchase Office products
for Outlook, or force people to use Windows Live Mail.

I have the tweaks, files and instructions uploaded to send space, but should
you take that plunge into Windows 7, you don't have to worry about upgrading
to another mail client, as the instructions are quite simple and easy to go
through.

I should also note that the main difference between Outlook Express and
Windows Mail is the inclusion of a Junk Mail folder, the ability to deal
with Spam messages more easily with the applications key, and a couple of
annoying bugs, though I'm not sure if this is a Windows issue, or a Jaws
issue.

The first bug is that the auto complete feature of Windows Mail is hit or
miss.

Oh, don't get me wrong, the addresses do auto complete, but Jaws isn't
reporting the completed address, so you're left wondering if it's going to
the proper address.

The second bug is the fact that when using your arrow keys to go through the
folder list on the left-hand side of the screen, should you come across a
folder containing saved messages in it, Jaws automatically moves focus to
the message list from the folder list.

It doesn't matter whether the messages are unread or not, and you're never
sure how many messages you have that are unread in that folder or what, as
you never get a chance to listen to Jaws read out the entire folder name and
unread messages as it did in Outlook Express.  This is especially the case
if you have message rules implemented, and you have your messages sorted by
subject words and if the messages go into their own folders.

Other than that, Windows Mail is exactly like Outlook Express, with a couple
of tweaks here and there.

I also don't know if Freedom Scientific has stopped supporting Windows mail,
but Eric can speak to that should he decide it's warranted.

Hope this helps.

Scorpio
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14

2013-02-27 Thread inthaneelf
I bank with boa and have had no troubles with the site, I think that your
having a trouble with your... I.E.9, and not a general trouble with the
program, I use it for nearly everything except for CAPTIA's, and if I wanted
to pay 18 cents a captcha I could use it on those as well. 

but I do recognize the usefulness of ff for testing things and for those
pesky are you a real person sign in images. 

ok, just uploaded it to my site, go to/enter on this URL and you will get a
very limited page called fetch
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com/fetch.html

there will be one link on it, and that will download ff 16 for you

take care,
inthane
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Sharon Gosling
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14

I would very much like the link to the Firefox 16.
As to the statement made that there is not much difference between 
accessibility with IE 9 and FF I have found many. Just the other day I tried

to sign up for the free samples on doctoroz.com and there was no space to 
fill in any info with IE 9 but when I copied the link and opened it in FF 
the form fields were there and I was able to sign up.  Expressscripts.com is

another that I could not sign in on IE 9. Also the FIOS website, the 
Lookout.com and I think certain pages of the Bank of America site.  Those 
are just the ones I remember having problems with recently using IE 9 that 
were accessible with FF..
Mostly I don't compare page by page unless I know ahead of time that there 
is something that is supposed to be there and isn't on IE 9.
I would think that Jaws should put more effort into making IE more 
accessible or at least fix this freezing problem with Firefox.
As for using version 3.5 of Firefox. it seems to me that that would really 
be a security risk rather like using IE 6 or 7.
I really would like to switch to Firefox for my default.  Maybe the version 
16 would work with Jaws 14.
Thanks,
Sherrie



-Original Message- 
From: inthaneelf
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 4:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14

if anyone wishes to revert to ff 16 I do believe I have the installer file
here for it still.

I tend to keep them JIC

elf

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 4:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14

First of all, no need to reboot your computer when firefox crashes.  Hit
ctrl-alt-escape, find the firefox in applications, hit the
applications/context key on it and choose end task.

Second of all, having used both firefox and ie9, I'd say that ie9 gives
more information on webpages where there is any difference at all.  I
have yet to find one that is more accessible with firefox.  If you are
having a lot of crashes with firefox as your default browser, caused by
clicking on links, you might want to change to ie as the default.  You
can download ff17.x off of mozilla's ftp site, you have to dig for it
though.  If it weren't for a couple of plugins that allow me to block
ads and control what javascript I wish to allow, along with how it deals
with rss, I'd use internet explorer instead of firefox.  I've used
firefox for many years, so I don't say that lightly.  I have yet to try
the release version of ff19, but the beta crashed just like ff18 did.



On 2/21/2013 05:49, Sharon Gosling wrote:
 I guess this sounds like I just have to put up with the IE 9 as a
 default since most of the freezes occur when clicking links in email.
 One I especially remember is a Kim Komando page that led to another page
 and then the youtube link yesterday.  There were others I remember from
 Lookout Mobile Security.  Can't remember them all.
 The most aggravating part is to have to restart the computer to shut
 down Firefox.  The computer doesn't freeze, just Firefox.
 I could still use more advice if anyone has any ideas.  I know there are
 many avid Firefox users on this list.
 I presume that to roll back to Firefox 17 I would have to remove FF 19.
 But where would I get 17.  And is 17 the best version for Jaws users? In
 old emails I had read about really low versions but it seems like they
 would have many security holes as newer versions of browsers generally
 have better security.

 Using a different link for youtube would not help me since I never go to
 youtube and search for videos.  I click links from friends that take me
 to interesting youtube videos.
 If I keep IE 9 as the default I may never realize how much more
 accessible the page might be on Firefox.  Now, I only try Firefox when I
 know there are form fields or other information I know should be there.
 I imagine there is a great deal more information that I

Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

2013-02-27 Thread inthaneelf
your not in sync here, were discussing the windows mail client tweak for
windows 7 OS. not the outlook express tweak for the vista OS.

regards,
inthane

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 4:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

To be clearer: Windows Mail is  the Windows Vista mail client. Windows
Live Mail is the windows 7 mail client. Two different clients. I don't 
know if the outlook Express tweak will work on Windows7, as it was 
designed for windows Vista. and the modern Windows Live Mail is ribbons 
rather than menus.

- Original Message - 
From: Scorpio scorpio...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:25 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?


 Hi Sugar,

 Though not commonly known, there is a version of Outlook Express
 included with Windows 7, just hidden from users so they can purchase
 Office products for Outlook, or force people to use Windows Live Mail.

 I have the tweaks, files and instructions uploaded to send space, but
 should you take that plunge into Windows 7, you don't have to worry
 about upgrading to another mail client, as the instructions are quite
 simple and easy to go through.

 I should also note that the main difference between Outlook Express
 and Windows Mail is the inclusion of a Junk Mail folder, the ability
 to deal with Spam messages more easily with the applications key, and
 a couple of annoying bugs, though I'm not sure if this is a Windows
 issue, or a Jaws issue.

 The first bug is that the auto complete feature of Windows Mail is hit
 or miss.

 Oh, don't get me wrong, the addresses do auto complete, but Jaws isn't
 reporting the completed address, so you're left wondering if it's
 going to the proper address.

 The second bug is the fact that when using your arrow keys to go
 through the folder list on the left-hand side of the screen, should
 you come across a folder containing saved messages in it, Jaws
 automatically moves focus to the message list from the folder list.

 It doesn't matter whether the messages are unread or not, and you're
 never sure how many messages you have that are unread in that folder
 or what, as you never get a chance to listen to Jaws read out the
 entire folder name and unread messages as it did in Outlook Express.
 This is especially the case if you have message rules implemented, and
 you have your messages sorted by subject words and if the messages go
 into their own folders.

 Other than that, Windows Mail is exactly like Outlook Express, with a
 couple of tweaks here and there.

 I also don't know if Freedom Scientific has stopped supporting Windows
 mail, but Eric can speak to that should he decide it's warranted.

 Hope this helps.

 Scorpio
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

2013-02-27 Thread inthaneelf
you have windows live mail and windows mail reversed 


inthane
inthane

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?


As an inveterate XP user, let me see if I understand all the accessible 
email clients that work with Windows 7 and 8.

1.  Windows Live Mail:  Introduced in Vista, it is most similar to Outlook 
Express, but was dropped in Windows 7, which does not come with any email 
client of its own.  But apparently, it can be made to work with Windows 7 
with a few registry tweaks that should not be attempted by the timid or 
faint of heart.

2. Windows Mail: Not to be confused with the similar-sounding Windows Live 
Mail above, it works with Windows 7 and 8, but is not nearly as accessible 
or easy to use as the former.

3.  Mail:  Windows 8 supposedly comes with an email client simply called 
Mail, but nobody seems to know much about it.

4.  Thunderbird: Not to be confused with the Ford sports coupe of the same 
name, an email client developed by Mozilla, the Firefox folks, that is 
supposed to be compatible with XP, Windows 7 and Windows 8.

5.  Edora:  An older email client that is no longer supported but still 
favored by some JAWS users that works with XP and Windows 7

6. Outlook:  the email client that comes bundled with MS Office, it is 
compatible with JAWS and works with all versions of Windows.

7.  Outlook Express:  still a favorite with XP users because of its 
simplicity and ease of use, but does not work with higher versions of 
Windows.

Okay, have I cleared up the confusion or merely made it worse?  Have I 
missed anything?

Gerald


- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:09 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?


 Actually it is called windows mail which was introduced in Vista and then
 promptly abandon. Yes it is almost the same as outlook express and it can 
 be
 enabled in windows 7 the fact is to do it requires adding a few keys to 
 your
 registry and replacing a DLL file or so. I have done it and the files ETC
 are still on my server I must point out a something. You must have service
 pack 1 installed prior to enabling windows mail to play it safe. To be
 honest so far that is the current stumbling block  that I am aware but 
 that
 does not mean there won't be future issues to come.

 A word to the wise and like the note on the server says this should not 
 be
 done by a beginner.
 David Ferrin
 Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
 that mind don't matter.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Marilyn Walker
 Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 11:10 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

 SUgar and Scorpio and all:  I'm nervous,, too, but hearing that Outlook
 Express is included in win 7 is easing my mind a bit.  I don't do
 complicated things on my computer so I don't need any bells and whistles.
 However, if msoft is going to cease supporting xp, I'll want to upgrade my
 operating system.  I actually have jaws' last two upgrades but am still
 using v 12 because it works best.
 I am dependent on all of you to give guidance since I do not know anyone
 locally who understands a thing about jaws or etc.  Maybe I will just wait
 and see, hoping I don't pass up an opportunity to buy win 7 and get shoved
 into 8 or something else that I'll hate.  Thanks.  Marilyn
 - Original Message -
 From: Sugar sugarsy...@sbcglobal.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 8:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?


 : Marilyn
 : I know what you mean, I am still handing on to my xp, but really 
 thinkging
 : of turning my lap top to windows 7, I have the program, but have not
 : converted.
 : My desk top is xp though
 : mostly because I love love outlook express.
 : now that I am on the topic, what are the differences between xp and
 windows
 : 7?
 : besides I won't be able to use outlook express, but I think outlook is 
 now
 : what I would use,right?
 : any feed back to ease my mind wold be appreciated. a very nervous Sugar
 : smile
 :
 : ~Peace Be, Sugar
 : I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night.
 :
 :   ~~ Galileo
 : - Original Message -
 : From: Marilyn Walker mlw1...@sbcglobal.net
 : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 : Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 5:55 PM
 : Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?
 :
 :
 :  Flor. what's the difference between windows 7 and 8?  Someone told me
 that
 :  8
 :  is a touch screen system?  Is this true?  Are vision impaired computer
 :  users
 :  being forced out of keyboard 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

2013-02-27 Thread inthaneelf
sp 1 did refuse to update if you had the windows mail tweak added prior to
installing it, but if sp 1 is applied first, then the tweak is done I have
seen no other complications, and that's following 8 lists of folks doing
this, smile.

inthane

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scorpio
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 9:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Cost of upgrading jaws?

Hi Steve,

I haven't run into those problems.

Do you have an example of an update that failed to update?

Not to be difficult, but I'm curious why I didn't receive such a problem
with my updates.

Scorpio
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Re: [JAWS-Users] external sd card and jaws

2013-02-25 Thread inthaneelf
you have to set your playback for audio to one sound device, sound card, USB
sound card, USB headphones, or USB Speakers, then set and do the actual
recording from another device, say set your music to play off the onboard
sound card and record off of it by playing music and telling Audacity, to
record from the players device, and not the one jaws is using

one note, I got a SoundBlaster Audigy here somewhere, it sounds better than
the computers stock sound card, so if I went to split things like this I
would play jaws out of the computers card and run my sound out the Audigy,
eh?

hope this takes care of this. 

inthane would 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 2:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] external sd card and jaws

It's on topic so far as that goes in case you're wondering.
David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones 
that mind don't matter.
- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan kimsans...@aol.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] external sd card and jaws


Ok, how is that done then?  If it is off topic, email me off list then
please.


Kimsan Song
kimsans...@aol.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 10:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] external sd card and jaws

yes

inthane

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 6:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] external sd card and jaws

So here comes the real question!

Is it possible to record something using lets say, audacity, have jaws come
out of the headset and not be heard during playback of the recording?


Kimsan Song
kimsans...@aol.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] external sd card and jaws

All I can really suggest is review your choices very carefully.  I have a
headphone choice without an additional card plugged in because it is just on
my built-in card.  Choosing it doesn't actually switch to the headphone
jack, it just stays with the speakers.  Once I connect my bluetooth headset,
I get another headset choice and it works as expected.



On 2/14/2013 14:08, Kimsan wrote:
 I do not pretend to know anything about how external cards work so
 here is my stupid question.

 I recently purchased a Sabrent external sound card, so when activating
 this through the sound card sub menu, what happens to jaws?

 Please note, 24/7 I am using an USB headset so as I write this, before
 I sent my email, I went to utilities and  the sound card option and
 click headset; however, when I clicked headset jaws was not coming out
 of my headset.

 When I pressed enter on the windows default sound card, jaws is coming
 out of my headset.

 I guess my question is when I press enter on this option in the
 soundcard options that states, speakers jineric USB audio device what
 will this do and how come when I select the headset option, jaws is
 not coming out of the headset.

 Hopefully this was not a stupid question.   I do not pretend to know
 anything about how USB cards work, so hopefully someone can bail me
 out here.

 .

 When or if someone can provide clarity I think I have another
 question. I just need to make sense of what is going on here lol.



 Thanks







 Kimsan Song

 kimsans...@aol.com



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Invoking The Control + F Keystroke

2013-02-25 Thread inthaneelf
ah, folks, something is odd here.

f3 is the computer/system search command, control f is for searching in an
application, 

elf

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of RJ
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 4:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Invoking The Control + F Keystroke

If I am looking for a file, than window + F is the key stroke that I use. 
For example, say I am looking for a excel folder named 2012 I would use 
Window + f and arrow down to document, spreadsheets, etc. and enter on it. 
In the edit box I would type in the folder name or file name. Reading his 
post, he was looking for a file. But you are right, the control + f is a 
screen find command.
- Original Message - 
From: justin williams justin.willia...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Invoking The Control + F Keystroke


 No, it is control f.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of RJ
 Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 6:42 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Invoking The Control + F Keystroke

 Window key + f
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net
 To: Jaws-Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 6:32 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Invoking The Control + F Keystroke


 Hi All,

 Whenever I invoke the control + F keystroke, which is supposed to invoke
 the
 screen readers find dialogue, Jaws goes dead  I have to use the Insert,
 Windows key, + F4 keystroke to shut Jaws down  a shortcut keystroke to
 get
 Jaws running again.  Does anyone have this issue or am I using the wrong
 keystroke for starting a search?  If I'm using the wrong keystroke for
 starting a search, for certain files for example, whaat is the correct
 keystrroke?  All advice will be greatly appreciated.  Thank you very 
 much.
 Take care.
 Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] revo uninstaller pro with JAWS

2013-02-25 Thread inthaneelf
odd, I think it's Chris hill that was at least using the pro version, but he
has also switched to NVDA I do believe and don't know if he did that before
or after getting the revo pro version (which is why I haven't said much to
this point)

laters,
inthane
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 5:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] revo uninstaller pro with JAWS

Hi Joe,

I purchased Revo Pro about 6 months ago, thinking that since the free 
version worked so well that the Pro version would be really good!  Man, was 
I wrong!  What I found was Revo Pro to be totally inaccessible but, their 
company didn't hesitate in the least bit when it came to refunding my money.

I did let them know about the difference between the 2 versions  asked them

why 1 version could be so accessible  the other, a total piece of sh*t!  I 
didn't get a reply!  LOL,  hahaha hahaha hahaha,  LOL
Take care.
Mike
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From: Jo Luland
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] revo uninstaller pro with JAWS



Hi,
Does anyone on this list use Revo Uninstaller Pro? If so, does it work well
with JAWS? I just downloaded a trial version, but can't get it to work with
JAWS. I hope this is not ot, but I just don't know where to look for the
info. I'm running latest version of JAWS 14 on a Windows 7 64 bit computer.
Any help will be greatly appreciated. BTW, if this is ot, please contact me
off list at: jolul...@verizon.net. Thanks.
Jo




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Re: [JAWS-Users] combo boxes

2013-02-25 Thread inthaneelf
use control down arrow to open the combo box, then use the up and down
arrow keys to read what is in the box, control and down arrow closes it
again and hitting the pc cursor button (numpad plus button) will disengage
you from the combo box if tabbing seems to not be working.

HTH,
inthane

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Suey
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 9:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] combo boxes

Can anybody help me with a combo box problem? When I enter a combo box on a
website, as soon as I press up or down arrow it selects the item directly
above or below  and refreshes the web page accordingly rather than letting
me read all of the items in the box and choose the one that I want. Is there
a way to solve this?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] alarm programs for win764 apart from outlook?

2013-02-25 Thread inthaneelf
I use day by day from:
http://www.blindsoftware.com/

the only drawback with it is it does trigger the UAC alert when its starting
up, so you get a do you want to allow? message popping up as your computer
fully boots but other than that it works great and is clear and easy to use
once you get the general hang of it, notes, reminders, contacts logs and
website auto links, all sorts of things available in a clear and easy to use
set of windows and dialogs. 



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Behalf Of adam morris
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 6:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] alarm programs for win764 apart from outlook?

Hi all,

what reminder programs are people using apart from outlook?

Outlook 2007 seems a pain with jaws14, appointments are all over the 
place and its hit and miss as to whether you can find one a second time.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14

2013-02-24 Thread inthaneelf
if anyone wishes to revert to ff 16 I do believe I have the installer file
here for it still. 

I tend to keep them JIC

elf

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 4:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14

First of all, no need to reboot your computer when firefox crashes.  Hit 
ctrl-alt-escape, find the firefox in applications, hit the 
applications/context key on it and choose end task.

Second of all, having used both firefox and ie9, I'd say that ie9 gives 
more information on webpages where there is any difference at all.  I 
have yet to find one that is more accessible with firefox.  If you are 
having a lot of crashes with firefox as your default browser, caused by 
clicking on links, you might want to change to ie as the default.  You 
can download ff17.x off of mozilla's ftp site, you have to dig for it 
though.  If it weren't for a couple of plugins that allow me to block 
ads and control what javascript I wish to allow, along with how it deals 
with rss, I'd use internet explorer instead of firefox.  I've used 
firefox for many years, so I don't say that lightly.  I have yet to try 
the release version of ff19, but the beta crashed just like ff18 did.



On 2/21/2013 05:49, Sharon Gosling wrote:
 I guess this sounds like I just have to put up with the IE 9 as a
 default since most of the freezes occur when clicking links in email.
 One I especially remember is a Kim Komando page that led to another page
 and then the youtube link yesterday.  There were others I remember from
 Lookout Mobile Security.  Can't remember them all.
 The most aggravating part is to have to restart the computer to shut
 down Firefox.  The computer doesn't freeze, just Firefox.
 I could still use more advice if anyone has any ideas.  I know there are
 many avid Firefox users on this list.
 I presume that to roll back to Firefox 17 I would have to remove FF 19.
 But where would I get 17.  And is 17 the best version for Jaws users? In
 old emails I had read about really low versions but it seems like they
 would have many security holes as newer versions of browsers generally
 have better security.

 Using a different link for youtube would not help me since I never go to
 youtube and search for videos.  I click links from friends that take me
 to interesting youtube videos.
 If I keep IE 9 as the default I may never realize how much more
 accessible the page might be on Firefox.  Now, I only try Firefox when I
 know there are form fields or other information I know should be there.
 I imagine there is a great deal more information that I don't even
 realize I am missing using IE 9.
 If others experience similar problems then perhaps I should contact Jaws
 or Firefox about it.
 Actually I was amazed at how inferior IE 9 was using Jaws.
 Sherrie Gosling




 -Original Message- From: Chris Hill
 Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 4:15 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14

 Definitely happens with youtube, that happens with all screen readers
 and flash.  You could try the html5 version of youtube at
 www.youtube.com/html5.  As far as the other freezes go, I've found that
 the best I could do was to go back to ff17 and force it to not update
 automatically.  I guess I should try out 19 to find out if it is any
 better, but I kinda hate to break what is working.



 On 2/20/2013 14:29, Sharon Gosling wrote:
 I have always been a dedicated IE user but recently I have found that
 websites that I need to sign in on or otherwise interact with on IE 9
 don't even show the form boxes so I have started using Firefox for
 these sites. I have been able to sign in with Firefox so I wanted to
 make Firefox my default browser. But Firefox constantly freezes
 totally when it says it is being redirected to a different website. It
 says to press alt A or control A to proceed but this doesn't work. It
 stops and only reads the title of the website. It will not close at
 all. I have tried Alt F4 and tried going to file menu or using Jaws
 cursor. Nothing helps or allows me to close the window. I have to do a
 forced restart of the whole computer. I can't even open a new tab of
 Firefox to finish what I was doing. Today it happened when I clicked
 on a youtube link. When I alt tab away from the frozen Firefox window
 and then back it only reads the title of the page.
 I have Win 7 home premium 64 bit, Jaws 14 and Firefox 19.0.
 I have been slow to convert to Firefox but now I really want to use it
 out of necessity and it constantly freezes. I don't know what is
 showing on the screen but in the window list is says minimized. Tried
 the alt space and x to maximize the window but no response. Jaws
 cursor does nothing either.
 I would really appreciate some advice from the group.
 IE 9 seems to do less and 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to copy cd content

2013-02-20 Thread inthaneelf
folks, 

don't forget as David somewhat pointed out, sometimes the burn is bad due to
several things, up to and including flaws on the disk you burned to which
makes things not work right. 

what is it your trying to burn/copy across?

inthane

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Behalf Of tim
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 6:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to copy cd content

I mostly came across this when using windows burner. The cd is seen 
and can be played, but not copied between other versions of windows. 
It mostly happens going from like win7 to xp. The reason for this is 
not backward compatible. Even thought all files used in the burn 
process are the same in newer versions they have updated code. I have 
also ran across this using different burn programs on xp doing all the same.
The one thing I can say here is don't use a cheap fly by night burn 
program or what comes with windows unless your going to have those 
disks used only on that computer. Get a good supported burner and it 
will work with all computers and anything you put the cd in.

At 11:12 PM 2/16/2013, you wrote:
I wrote files to a cdd on my desktop, but my laptop won't let me copy the
files to my hard drive. The files keep getting interrupted. I have Jaws 14
and my laptop has  Windows 8, my desktop has Windows XP.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

2013-02-20 Thread inthaneelf
pardon me.

with what I hear 5 year olds saying when they run up and down the streets
here I didn't think I was that bad mouthed

my own language around the house makes this look totally g rated, so I am
being very polite goodmen

inthane

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Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 4:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

Remember this is a family oriented list, let's watch our language. 


David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

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Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 2:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

Chris, 

apparently your one of those who are totally against java, 

I don't use it myself, but some folks do, and therefore need java and the
java bridge, if you have the location for the files give them to the poor
fellow and quit being a pain in the rear end, this is most unlike you?
whatthehell?

inthane

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Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

Well, unless you are going to use libre office or similar, you probably
don't need Java for anything.  I guess some websites might use it, but
unless you know you need it, get rid of it and you'll have one less security
issue.



On 2/15/2013 11:09, Stormin wrote:
 I have no clue. I am not a expert nor know the guts of this computer. 
 I
was
 going on what FS-Tech, Dennis suggested that Java 64 type needed or 
 should be on the machine. As I removed being heard Java has security 
 problems. As for virus etc. Running Pro in AVG, Super Anti Spyware and
Malware..
 All I know and FS Tech is looking at dump files that they extracted 
 from
my
 machine 20 minutes ago.
 Wish I was a brain in this and a few years younger to grasp , but.. 
 Geno



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

2013-02-20 Thread inthaneelf
which was my point

inthane

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Behalf Of Stormin
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 5:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

So a up-date and not so correct sentences.
First off I found a person, not on this group that was willing to work with
myself and this computer.
A: First off with all virus protection, which three they are all paid Pro
programs.
B: Still using Outlook Office as work for home and e-mail but will in time
go to Outlook Office 2010 after finishing training in it. Just to busy
training for up grades  for AAA call center.
C: I use Quicken 10 thinking and that runs my home entirely.
That said. This is a Windows 7 and the owner on this list knows what it all
has in it. Which Jaws 13 latest was working grand on it. When Internet 9 was
installed, I decided to go with Jaws 14 that I have a license for. 
First stripping all of Jaws 13 and all associated to it.
Then installed Jaws 14 February release. This proven to be a frustration as
it would freeze up.
I did report and to this date not heard from FS Tech that is looking at the
dump files that was told on HIGH Priority.
That said, I asked questions here and because of sentence and language
barriers.. Well, I contacted a friend that uses Jaws here and there. He uses
another screen reader but this is Jaws group.
First off he noted that this machine was more or less set up for gamers.
Thus noted go to the web site and see what recommendations and then to the
Microsoft site and see the optional up dates see if related to the cards and
bingo so down loaded them. 
Also installed with this gentleman's Help the newest of Java for windows 7
and 64 bit and installed. Unlike some comments on the list. It is a valued
tool here and there. FS, Tech, also advised that one should have the latest
of Java as noted on their site.
Because of the Jaws not coming back and well just turn the power off on four
different times. So Friday I did a complete disc clean up, left over night
to do it's thing, the last step 7 hours.  then After work did a defrag. To
this point Jaws 14 seems by all accounts working and no disappearance of
Jaws 14 to this point. I am going to leave it on all day today to see if
Jaws 14 will still be there anytime during the day and evening. If so the
ideas that my friend in Louisiana, who has a heart of Gold, willing to work
with me knowing I am scared as heck of the guts of this computer. Slowly
walk me through VIA Skype to complete the project at hand. Compared to the
cold reception on the Jaws Users Group.
Yet, There is some valued information with Blind Computing and Jaws users
group so I don't mind donating to the keeping David's group site going.
As in the business of Call Receiving at AAA, Presentation, compassion,
understanding and tone of delivery which is highly recommended, demanded,
that it could be  used here. So quick to judge. There is myself and others
that are scared as heck of the insides of the computer. Others here are A
walk in the park on the insides of a computer. So how about cutting a break
and understand all are not near the level as those of you that are on a
higher level or experts. 
I can see why people are afraid to ask questions. As one, not worded
correctly. Really? might be a beginner or not sure how to ask.
Two, This might be a silly question so not sure if I should ask it.
I've been using jaws since it came out. I am no more comfortable now with
the inside of this computer now or then.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes problems

2013-02-18 Thread inthaneelf
how much ram is on the XP system

I found that many an XP system does not have sufficient video card
capability and/or ram to run most streaming video that is out there now a
days

elf

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Behalf Of Shane Hecker
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 5:49 PM
To: jaws-users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] iTunes problems

I've got 2 systems, one running Windows 7, the other running Windows Xp 
Sp3. Both have iTunes on them. The windows 7 system works fine, the xp 
system does not. The xp system will start to play a tv show, then stop, 
then stutter, then start playing again. It does this at random. I've 
downloaded the latest sound, video, and chipset drivers. Tried 
uninstalling and reinstalling iTunes and everything related to it. I've 
tried running iTunes in safe mode. I have tried setting Quicktime to 
play using wav out and gdi safe mode for the video out, but still no 
luck. Any help would be appreciated.
Oh, and here's what it might sound like if I'm playing a video on 
Windows xp.
Hello, are WeWeWeWeWeWeWeWeWeWeWe having fun YetYetYetYetYet? Then it 
plays for a bit, then starts stustustustustustuttering like that again.

Shane

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Re: [JAWS-Users] keyboard on new laptop

2013-02-18 Thread inthaneelf
in the keyboard settings in control panel most of the time.

its in my helpful hints files at:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

regards,
elf

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Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 6:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] keyboard on new laptop

Hi Scott,
Try including the Fn key  in your commands, for example:
Fn + Insert +  F11 for the System Tray.
I ran into this on a Gateway laptop,but don't remember off-hand
what needed to be changed with the keyboard to eliminate this behavior,
or,  if it could be changed.
HTH,
Rick Justice
- Original Message - 
From: Scott Duck l...@csdconsulting.biz
To: Jaws List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 6:44 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] keyboard on new laptop


Hi Everyone,

I just got a new HP Envy laptop running Windows 8.  I am using the latest
build of JAWS 14.  The function keys on the laptop have lost their mind.  I
cannot use the JAWS key with any of the function keys to get the expected
function.  For example, caps lock plus F12 does not give me the time.  If I
press F1, without holding down anything, JAWS says Windows F1 and it acts as
though I were holding down the Windows key even though I am not.  If I press
F2 or F3, it says MK wheel click.  If I press F4, it says Windows P.
This problem only effects the function keys (F1 through F12).  If I use a
external USB keyboard, everything works normally.  So, is there a software
issue here or is the keyboard on my new laptop defective?

Thanks,

Scott Duck

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Re: [JAWS-Users] clarification behind external headset question

2013-02-18 Thread inthaneelf
I don't know that particular headset, but if it is a USB headset it will
show up as a seperate device in the various places, most times you need to
either go into your music players and tell them to use the onboard sound
card (or the device you want) or do this in control panel, sound, playback
devices after plugging all your stuff in, then you go into jaws and tell it
to use the headphones by default (or another particular device) as it's
default sound device.

sound in control panel and then in the jaws application menu's are the two
places you should tell things what to use to make noise!

if you need deeper instructions I can dig them out for you tomorrow or later
today (just looked at my clock) for you.

HTH,
inthaneelf
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Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 6:43 PM
To: jaws-users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] clearification behind external headset question

 

 

I should had mentioned that I am using a plantronic USB headset, so how can
I get jaws to come out of the headset when the external card is plugged in?

Kimsan Song

kimsans...@aol.com

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] burning cd's question?

2013-02-17 Thread inthaneelf
I myself and my wife both use Starburn:
Starburn 12.1
Publisher: Rocket Division Software 
http://www.starburnsoftware.com/downloads

inthane

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Behalf Of Susie 
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] burning cd's question?

Hi I am using windows seven, and jaws 14, what on the program page, is the
best cd burning program to use with Jaws? Thanks so much sue

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Num Lock

2013-02-17 Thread inthaneelf
because jaws uses most of the number pad which is effected by the numlock
keys for desktop keyboard commands, thus its automatic feature is to turn
the numlock off, since the keystrokes can't work if its on

how long have you been using jaws that this wasn't apparent to you?
inthaneelf
inthane

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Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Num Lock

I have windows 8 and jaws 14. Whenever I start jaws I have to manually turn 
num lock on. Why is this?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Num Lock

2013-02-17 Thread inthaneelf
to many to list here as far as I am concerned, go look at the jaws help menu

inthane

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Behalf Of tim
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Num Lock

And what commands would those be?

At 11:37 AM 2/14/2013, you wrote:
Jaws turns numlock off at startup because  it uses the numpad for 
its commands, and if numlock is on, then the numpad is not available 
for jaws commands.



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Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 10:39 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Num Lock


I have windows 8 and jaws 14. Whenever I start jaws I have to 
manually turn num lock on. Why is this?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] excel - JAWS Stops Reading

2013-02-17 Thread inthaneelf
I haven't seen an answer to your query yet so...

I would first ask you to make sure that the excel window is maximized. you
should see something unless you have a open window such as for registering
your software opening or... if it is minimized when you open it (alt and
space bar, then x)

let us know if this helps
inthaneelf

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Behalf Of John Vernaleken
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 4:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] excel - JAWS Stops Reading

I have a strange problem when on my work computer.

System: XP  JAWS: 13  Excel: 2010

When I go into any spreadsheet JAWS stops reading. After closing the
spreadsheet all applications work and JAWS reads normally.

John




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Re: [JAWS-Users] Num Lock

2013-02-17 Thread inthaneelf
because it enables you to use the jaws keyboard commands! 

inthaneelf

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Behalf Of Marilyn Walker
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Num Lock

Why?  I have no idea what this num lock is all about.  Marilyn
- Original Message - 
From: justin williams justin.willia...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Num Lock


: You definitely want it off.  
: 
: -Original Message-
: From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
: Behalf Of Stormin
: Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 10:55 AM
: To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
: Subject: [JAWS-Users] Num Lock
: 
: When you installed Jaws 14 February release, As I did, did you hear the
: section with the wizard, the section on Num-lock off or on? You have a
: choice to have on or off at start off and if not choice made the Jaws 14
: February release is set to off.
: Geno
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Which Graphics Card is better with JFW?

2013-02-17 Thread inthaneelf
thank you for that consideration

good luck with the new machine, a note I have 4 cores and 8 Gb of ram and am
using 23 percent of my available memory while using only 1 percent of CPU
capability most of the time, so getting the large quantities of ram is a
good thing. 
s
take care,
elf

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Behalf Of Don  Cher Bosch
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Which Graphics Card is better with JFW?

Dear inthane,
You're being very helpful, but save your effort for now. I was wrong about
part of what I stated re my custom computer. It is an AMD/Ati set-up; but
the mother board is integrated. The Ati graphics card is attached and has
its own controllers and chipset. The builder thinks that ATI works better
and faster with the AMD; and that this is a faster combo than the Intel
integrated boards- which he thinks are quite cheap and shabby. Just his
opinion, but you've been so willing to discuss that I wanted to give you the
full scoop- to the extent that my non-techy non-builder non-hardware savvy
brain is capable ;)
Cher


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Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 1:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Which Graphics Card is better with JFW?

I wouldn't actually need to tear it up smile just figuratively speaking if
I said it that way, really means  I would kick her off the thing long enough
for me to track down the cip set name, since its the default on a laptop and
is near impossible to change I can find it out.

and this week I wouldn't even have to kick her off the comp, since she is
out of town visiting with her mother and celebrating the Asian new year

I wish to get a more expensive card myself one of these days, I want to join
a cloud computing arrangement and offer the unused GPU's time up to it,
maybe something like SETI, and another science foundation's work.

laters,
inthane

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Don  Cher Bosch
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 5:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Which Graphics Card is better with JFW?

Dear inthane,

I'm getting a separate graphics card- and heard some recommendation to that
effect a long while ago. Sorry, that I don't remember the specifics, and
hope that the person who said it knew whereof he spoke. The guy building the
computer likes separate graphics cards also, so that reinforced the decision
to go that way. Don't tear up your wife's computer ;)

Thanks for the info- will write back if any problem arises. 
Cher



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Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Which Graphics Card is better with JFW?

I have 4 computers here and the only one I have had any trouble with in this
area is my wife's AMD with a built in AMD video card. and I'm not even
trying to say that all the built in AMD cards are troublesome, just the one
she has, I'll go break into her machine and find out which one its using if
you want that info. 

but her AMD matching, with built in video card has some small troubles that
seem to be (from all I and FS can determine) troubles with this setup.

regards,
inthane

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Don  Cher Bosch
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Which Graphics Card is better with JFW?

Thanks for the suggestion Rick- unfortunately not very much there. I tried
both graphics card and video card- I'm confused at this point whether they
are different or if the term has just changed ;) It was a good suggestion
though, and I forget that that source of info is available. 

Cher


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Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 4:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Which Graphics Card is better with JFW?

Hi Cher,
You could also check the technical service bulletins on the FS website.
HTH,
Rick Justice
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From: Don  Cher Bosch oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 4:03 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Which Graphics Card is better with JFW?


2nd question on buying computer- Does a ATI vs. Nvidia

graphics card make a difference to JFW in anyone's experience? Last time I
bought an Nvidia G-Force card on an AMD processor, and I feel that JFW has
not lived as happily as might be on this computer and am

Re: [JAWS-Users] February Jaws 14 Windows 7

2013-02-17 Thread inthaneelf
ok if you would speak clearly and not leave words out of sentences so there
complete statements it would help.

inthane

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Behalf Of Stormin
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 4:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] February Jaws 14  Windows 7

I have installed and twice Jaws died, yet can hear You got Mail. I have
uninstalled and reinstalled runs fine and then died today earlier, so
uninstalled all of Java. Just now at the request of Freedom Scientific key
stroke of insert, windows and F4 for a dump file of jaws and maybe they can
figure out. Anyone knowing why Jaws keeps dying on this computer. It is not
the lack of ram and obvious the head set is working.. Appreciate ideas.
Geno frustrated at this point



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Re: [JAWS-Users] excel - JAWS Stops Reading

2013-02-17 Thread inthaneelf
ok, I'd route jaws to pc and see if you can see anything, 2nd would be using
the invisible cursor for the same investigation (jaws key tapped twice
quickly), 

other things are check the view menu to see what it is set to, normal is
best here, check the options settings for anything that sounds irregular,
like everything set to invisible in view, etc. 

HTH,
inthane
either things have been made invisible in the application, or  something is
blocking you from seeing what you should

inthane

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Behalf Of John Vernaleken
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 4:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] excel - JAWS Stops Reading

The window is maximized.

John


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Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 6:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] excel - JAWS Stops Reading

I haven't seen an answer to your query yet so...

I would first ask you to make sure that the excel window is maximized. you
should see something unless you have a open window such as for registering
your software opening or... if it is minimized when you open it (alt and
space bar, then x)

let us know if this helps
inthaneelf

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Behalf Of John Vernaleken
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 4:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] excel - JAWS Stops Reading

I have a strange problem when on my work computer.

System: XP  JAWS: 13  Excel: 2010

When I go into any spreadsheet JAWS stops reading. After closing the
spreadsheet all applications work and JAWS reads normally.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] external sd card and jaws

2013-02-17 Thread inthaneelf
yes

inthane

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Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 6:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] external sd card and jaws

So here comes the real question!

Is it possible to record something using lets say, audacity, have jaws come
out of the headset and not be heard during playback of the recording?


Kimsan Song
kimsans...@aol.com

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Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] external sd card and jaws

All I can really suggest is review your choices very carefully.  I have a
headphone choice without an additional card plugged in because it is just on
my built-in card.  Choosing it doesn't actually switch to the headphone
jack, it just stays with the speakers.  Once I connect my bluetooth headset,
I get another headset choice and it works as expected.



On 2/14/2013 14:08, Kimsan wrote:
 I do not pretend to know anything about how external cards work so 
 here is my stupid question.

 I recently purchased a Sabrent external sound card, so when activating 
 this through the sound card sub menu, what happens to jaws?

 Please note, 24/7 I am using an USB headset so as I write this, before 
 I sent my email, I went to utilities and  the sound card option and 
 click headset; however, when I clicked headset jaws was not coming out 
 of my headset.

 When I pressed enter on the windows default sound card, jaws is coming 
 out of my headset.

 I guess my question is when I press enter on this option in the 
 soundcard options that states, speakers jineric USB audio device what 
 will this do and how come when I select the headset option, jaws is 
 not coming out of the headset.

 Hopefully this was not a stupid question.   I do not pretend to know
 anything about how USB cards work, so hopefully someone can bail me 
 out here.

 .

 When or if someone can provide clarity I think I have another 
 question. I just need to make sense of what is going on here lol.



 Thanks







 Kimsan Song

 kimsans...@aol.com



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows7 Suggested Settings For Jaws13

2013-02-17 Thread inthaneelf
ok, tell your friend they need to copy out there personal files then do a
clean install of windows 7, installing over vista was what caused the
problems.

inthaneelf

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:31 AM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows7 Suggested Settings For Jaws13

Hi All,

A friend just upgraded from Vista to Windows7.  Is there a list of preferred

settings for setting up Windows7 so it works best with Jaws?  He is having 
several issues  he doesn't know if it's the upgrade didn't go well, 
settings, Or Jaws.  Below is the email I received:

It seems to be quite sluggish for one, but
most recently it has stopped recognizing commands while on Internet 
Explorer. It will not recognize the alt key so I can get to the menu where 
file, view,
tools, etc. are located. I tried using the control key and the enter key 
together on Facebook, but it would not pull up a new page. I began to wonder

if
the control key and the alt key had gone bad. So, I tried youtube. They alt 
key and the left arrow (go back) worked on youtube. Jaws will say on youtube
control and whatever other key I am pressing. Jaws will say alt and whatever

other key I am pressing, but it will not perform the task. I tried tabbing
to the menu, but when I got to where the menu should be it just said toolbar

button. I select the button and nothing happens. I shift tab up to the 
address
bar and try typing in the location and I get no results. It does not 
recognize the letters.

1. Alt key does not work as it should.
2. Control key does not work as it should
3. Jaws is not reading what I type in the address bar.
4. Computer is sluggish especially with Outlook 2010.

Do you know what may be causing this to occur? I am using Jaws 13. That is 
the only version available on that computer. I am also using Internet 
Explorer
9.

All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thank you all very much.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

2013-02-17 Thread inthaneelf
Chris, 

apparently your one of those who are totally against java, 

I don't use it myself, but some folks do, and therefore need java and the
java bridge, if you have the location for the files give them to the poor
fellow and quit being a pain in the rear end, this is most unlike you?
whatthehell?

inthane

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

Well, unless you are going to use libre office or similar, you probably 
don't need Java for anything.  I guess some websites might use it, but 
unless you know you need it, get rid of it and you'll have one less 
security issue.



On 2/15/2013 11:09, Stormin wrote:
 I have no clue. I am not a expert nor know the guts of this computer. I
was
 going on what FS-Tech, Dennis suggested that Java 64 type needed or should
 be on the machine. As I removed being heard Java has security problems. As
 for virus etc. Running Pro in AVG, Super Anti Spyware and Malware..
 All I know and FS Tech is looking at dump files that they extracted from
my
 machine 20 minutes ago.
 Wish I was a brain in this and a few years younger to grasp , but.. Geno



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Skype scripts

2013-02-17 Thread inthaneelf
yes I will send you the info package I have which includes several iPhone
lists in it to you off list.

inthaneelf

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Behalf Of justin williams
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 10:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] skype scripts

Is there an eye phone list.  When I get one I will want to join a lit of
some sort.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 1:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] skype scripts

Skype scripts are on topic for this list but not iPhones. 


David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 1:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] skype scripts

Hi, Are there any tips you can give me for using Skype on an iPhone 5? My
computer is down for the moment and I would like to give this a try. 

I wish iPhone apps had a button for hints on how to use their produc!

Anny suggestions will be gratefully received! Vicky

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2013, at 8:47 AM, Patti bbk...@comcast.net wrote:

 Thank you and I downloaded them.
 I hope I can get the typing sound working.
 Patti
 
 dear respected friend, here is the link for your required jaws script 
 for skype 6.1.0.126 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2361069/jfw-skr60a.exe
 With regards from Inamuddin with the skype id: charlsdarwin1
 
 - Original Message - From: Patti bbk...@comcast.net
 To: Jaws jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 4:03 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] skype scripts
 
 
 Hey Gang,
 Does any one have the scripts for skype 6.0.0.126?
 Thanks Patti
 A hug - is a sign of love.
 A laugh - is a sign of happiness.
 And a friend like me?
 Heck...that's just a sign of good taste!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 8 With Jaws 14

2013-02-16 Thread inthaneelf
hmmm, don't seem to have anything on that one, not specifically

sorry
elf

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Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 4:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 8 With Jaws 14

I tried to do controlled by synthesizer, I'll try again. Also, Web links
work, just sendmail links. If I went to an email in this message, and
pressed enter, it would go to a Microsoft account, instead of a new message.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 1:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 8 With Jaws 14

in the settings center under text settings you can set things on how jaws
reads numbers, I think if you change it to controlled by synthesizer it will
do as you wish, and if your using html style mail go to the link you wish to
open, arrow right one letter (if its http:// you want to be on the first t,
not the h) then enter on the link

this usually works as far as I know, 

inthane

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Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 8 With Jaws 14

Is there a way to have Jaws speak 1861 as eighteen sixty-one and how do I
get Jaws to open email links in Microsoft outlook?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 8 With Jaws 14

2013-02-16 Thread inthaneelf
oops sorry your correct

elf

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Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 8 With Jaws 14

There are two combo boxes. In the first choose Pairs.

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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:31 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 8 With Jaws 14


 Is there a way to have Jaws speak 1861 as eighteen sixty-one and how 
 do I
 get Jaws to open email links in Microsoft outlook?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Which Graphics Card is better with JFW?

2013-02-14 Thread inthaneelf
ah, it's there decision, so can it

good gods

elf

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Behalf Of tim
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 1:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Which Graphics Card is better with JFW?

How do you save a slot? When its a PCI 1x16 slot that only fits graphic
cards.

At 01:16 PM 2/12/2013, you wrote:
What a waste of money.  With the amount of Ram these days, there is 
no need for a separate graphics card unless you have specific 
entertainment/gaming needs.  You get all the basics, possibly with 
the exception of dual-monitor support, with a built-in graphics card 
and you save $80-200 or more by avoiding the need for a separate 
card and you also save a slot.

Steve
- Original Message - From: Don  Cher Bosch 
oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Which Graphics Card is better with JFW?


Dear inthane,

I'm getting a separate graphics card- and heard some recommendation to
that
effect a long while ago. Sorry, that I don't remember the specifics, and
hope that the person who said it knew whereof he spoke. The guy building
the
computer likes separate graphics cards also, so that reinforced the
decision
to go that way. Don't tear up your wife's computer ;)

Thanks for the info- will write back if any problem arises.
Cher



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Which Graphics Card is better with JFW?

I have 4 computers here and the only one I have had any trouble with in
this
area is my wife's AMD with a built in AMD video card. and I'm not even
trying to say that all the built in AMD cards are troublesome, just the
one
she has, I'll go break into her machine and find out which one its using
if
you want that info.

but her AMD matching, with built in video card has some small troubles
that
seem to be (from all I and FS can determine) troubles with this setup.

regards,
inthane

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Don  Cher Bosch
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Which Graphics Card is better with JFW?

Thanks for the suggestion Rick- unfortunately not very much there. I tried
both graphics card and video card- I'm confused at this point whether they
are different or if the term has just changed ;) It was a good suggestion
though, and I forget that that source of info is available.

Cher


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Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 4:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Which Graphics Card is better with JFW?

Hi Cher,
You could also check the technical service bulletins on the FS website.
HTH,
Rick Justice
- Original Message - From: Don  Cher Bosch 
oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 4:03 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Which Graphics Card is better with JFW?


2nd question on buying computer- Does a ATI vs. Nvidia

graphics card make a difference to JFW in anyone's experience? Last time I
bought an Nvidia G-Force card on an AMD processor, and I feel that JFW has
not lived as happily as might be on this computer and am wondering whether
the graphics card is a factor. Thanks for any insight and comments.



Cher



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft access

2013-02-14 Thread inthaneelf
thanks, smile

more sources is always a good thing,
elf

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-- 


Regards.
Tara Fakhri
http://curesbyreiki.com/

Hi all:. Hi all: folowing is a good tutorial on microsoft access, and
other computing .regards.
http://www.techsupportalert.com/free-books-computer

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