Re: [MBZ] W123 / OM617 questions
My 300SD is an early 79 (110hp engine, before hardened cams, second gear start trans). My 450SLC 5.0 is somewhere in the middle of 79.. #919 of overall production. Jaime On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: If in 79 it would be a very late 79. Early 79 and 78 had the old style key. On 1/4/2011 7:47 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: And 79, at least... but not 77. Not sure about 78. Jaime -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VersaTrailer WAS: cheap hauling -
Dieselhead wrote: A common price for a good Coleman VersaTrailer is $250-$350, so that one is LA is a steal. There's one a couple of hours away with wood stake sides, no top, asking $150. Looks like the ultimate garden tractor trailer, if your garden tractor takes a 1 7/8 hitch ball. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 / OM617 questions
what key do they have? On 1/6/2011 7:07 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: My 300SD is an early 79 (110hp engine, before hardened cams, second gear start trans). My 450SLC 5.0 is somewhere in the middle of 79.. #919 of overall production. Jaime -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 / OM617 questions
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: what key do they have? Since I've got one of the last 1979 300SDs made before the August vacation, I should try to figure out what key the door locks take. Some idjit bought a generic ignition cylinder at a foreign car parts place, and the car didn't come with a key for the door locks by the time I got it. All I know is the ignition key does not work in the doors. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 timing chain
It's really not hard at all, and if you spring for the special tool which holds the chain against the cam shaft gear (about $40 or so I think), the risk of losing (loosing? Help me out here Rich) one or both ends of the chain down the front engine cover is zero. Don't forget to replace the gasket for the cross-over pipe, and consider a new valve cover gasket. Also, I highly recommend a new seal for the chain tensioner. Cut/grind off a pin to break the chain, attach new chain to end of old, roll new chain in by rotating the engine clockwise while pulling the old chain out, and install new master link. Twice I've installed new chain master links using a ball peen hammer instead of the special chain crimper, and had no issues with either event. I use a 10 lb maul as a hanging anvil against the back of the link, and an 8 oz ball peen hammer to tap-tap-tap about 100 times or so until the end of the new pin is nicely mushroomed. The maul serves to absorb the force of the tap-tap-tap so you don't break the cam shaft gear. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of brian costello Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:59 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 603 timing chain Hey everybody! I picked up a another W124 603, this time a 87 WAGON!! oh boy. I need to replace the timing chain (its stretched pretty bad) So I have never done one before and was hoping a New England member would love to come on over my house (Carriage house, heated) and give me a hand?? I have plenty of tools, and beer, and food. Also I can do VW diesel belts (ALH engine especially). So I think I can handle the chain. So let me know if your around and want to help/watch/drink beer and laugh at me ! Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Somebody find some twenny-foos to donk Wilton's ride
Haven't heard from Wilton this holiday season - maybe his Bride finally got him some twenny-foos and he's been busy chillin and cruizin wit da boys? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 334k miles '95 E300 277k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300 SD vac lines again!
A mity-vac will be very useful for figuring out things vacuum related. Does this car have the evil Chrysler servo ACC system? If yes, then the Unwired tools solution may be a good choice, if you have the $$. Pressing the defrost button on the control is supposed to cause four things to happen: Fan on high, heat on full, AC compressor on, and resulting heated/de-humidified air directed to the windshield. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Chris N John Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 1:04 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 1980 300 SD vac lines again! Well, I'm ashamed that after all the help you guys offered to try and resolve our vac issues that we are once again heating our car with the defroster fan this winter We tried various changes on the lines coming out of the firewall into the engine compartment. You may or may not recall, when we bought our car, it had several vac lines to the right of the brake unit just dangling and connected to NOTHING. We just don't know what all was changed or bypassed and why! Still would like to see pics of correct connections. I know there is an issue with the holding vac on the door locks. They lock fine but bleed off at various rates. Sometimes they won't all lock, but can be pushed down and will hold for awhile. Anyone out there still have a car like ours? I study the diagrams and seem to get more confused. Think we need a mighty-vac from the sound of things, also? Is it best to just change to new check valves or is there a way to test and see if they are good. They may even be installed backwards for all we know Guess it will be spring someday and then we will be worried about the AC that also doesn't work. And even though it hasn't started for 10 days cause its too cold, we Love our car! Still not sure if that block heater is there, but we are going to check it out soon. We have a great old 72 ford bronco that gets us where we want to go in this weather! Thanks again everyone, Chris in NW Wyoming Found some perfect match vinyl and working on new upholstery, when I can fight off the urge to hibernate! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 / OM617 questions
Philip - thanks for the excellent toe-in write up! How about another showing off your camber/caster tool? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:19 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 / OM617 questions Tim C wrote: 1) Trunk lock: have to shake a bit to get the key in when cold, but turns perfectly once the key is all the way in. I WD-40'd it to get the key in tonight; however, I can't tell if it's grabby because the key is old or because the pins don't move properly. Do I replace the tumbler or the key? Or both? Is the key brass or stainless steel? _Usually_, if it has a black plastic head it's stainless, but I happen to have one car with a set of very Merecedes looking keys with a bright nickle finish on the side of the key and a black plastic head that are actually brass. The stainless steel key is definitely preferred. If there is any water in the tumbler, and the air tempurature is below 0 C (32 F) it won't function well. WD40 can help that situation. The key slot should have a little door that swings closed when the key is removed to key junk out. If that's missing, water and other stuff can get in and muck up the action. A new tumbler setup to use a matching key is about $100, so it's worth being sure it really needs that. 2) Brake master cylinder: just RR and then brake fluid flush? I have a pressure flusher thing from my Volvo days, I assume that will work with a proper cap? Yup. Yup. The tank does not come with the new master cylinder. The rubber grommet seals between the tank and master cylider do. Well, they did on the one I just installed, anyway. The rubber caps for the top of the caliper bleed screws are often missing or old crumbly. About $2 each, part number 000-421-08-87 7) Car crunches (metal-on-rotating-metal) in rear when turning 'sharply', and it is slowly getting worse. I speculate the driveshaft is hitting something when I turn, perhaps due to bad transmission/motor mounts. I know I need to do shocks, and probably rear springs too. Anything else? Axle shafts? I'm not coming up with any good explanations for why you get such a noise only when turning. The only noise aft that changes with turning I have experienced is from half-shafts - but that doesn't match your description very well. 8) Alignment: tire shop says I need one, but I gather it's difficult aligning MBs; how do I find out if an alignment shop is any good? The nearest dealer is awful for parts sales so I swore them off, but I'll go there if there's no other choice. I do it myself. I bought a caster/camber gauge years ago. I use a laser level to do the toe-in. I've now done the process three times. Each was successful - the last being the best, fastest - of course. I did a write-up on the toe-in process. http://www.host-a.net/u/fmiser/w123-toein-alignment_howto_print.pdf or http://www.host-a.net/u/fmiser/w123-toein-alignment_howto_screen.pdf -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling
I'm in the city, so having a trailer, would mean I'd have to store it somewhere. Some of those small utility trailers fold up in the middle. I saw some for sale around here that would easily store along the wall of a typical garage, vertically inside, tongue and tail in the air and sitting on the wheels. I think this was at Fred Meyer, a local chain that has groceries, automotive, furniture, garden, etc. Typical Harbor Freight kind of product, and I think around $300 brand new at the time. Just add plywood (for a deck). Not heavy duty at all, but it's not for people who need it to work for a living. Saw one of that ilk behind some Mercedes sedan at the local Home Despot once. Highly attractive way to go, 'cept we've already got trucks, and now a car trailer. But the small light trailer would handle 95% of everything you'd probably want to do except haul a car! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody find some twenny-foos to donk Wilton's ride
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Haven't heard from Wilton this holiday season - maybe his Bride finally got him some twenny-foos and he's been busy chillin and cruizin wit da boys? I think he's lurking until he can surprise us with another feat of mechanical prowess even more astounding than his W124 evapectomy. I'd like to see Wilton and Jim C. go head-to-head on some kind of reality TV show. For $10,000, who can change out a W114 blower fan faster---blindfolded? (Jim gets handicapped by being allowed to use all the microwave metal he wants.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody find some twenny-foos to donk Wilton's ride
I'd like to see Wilton and Jim C. go head-to-head on some kind of reality TV show. For $10,000, who can change out a W114 blower fan faster---blindfolded? Oh I'm fast. But I make up for it by being sloppy. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 timing chain
risk of losing (loosing? Help me out here Rich) You lose your car keys, you loose the Hounds of Hell. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] H rated and governors
I'm actually getting smaller, I weigh the same now as I did when I graduated high school, so about 20# less than when I graduated college and 50# less than when I got laid off from my first job. I'd gained 30# in about 2 years, its taken me about 10 years to take the 50# back off... -Curt Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:26:54 -0600 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] H rated and governors Message-ID: aanlkti=wwrscprfiz=yg6hut5ox_-xu-8n=rxr9vd...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey, I resemble that remark! On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 1:26 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: I agree, things are getting bigger, along with a lot of people. Ed 300E -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody find some twenny-foos to donk Wilton's ride
Alex Chamberlain wrote: I'd like to see Wilton and Jim C. go head-to-head on some kind of reality TV show. For $10,000, who can change out a W114 blower fan faster---blindfolded? (Jim gets handicapped by being allowed to use all the microwave metal he wants.) Kevin from Hillsboro could kick both their butts in that game. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling
I found a little boat trailer on CL I got for $300, the guy used it to haul a little 12ft boat. Had new tires, lights, and bearings. I took it to the welder and had him add some racks for my kayaks, I put a treated plywood floor on it and some eyebolts for tie-downs, $500 in the whole deal and it works quite nicely. Could haul lumber on it too I suppose, but now I got the bigger trailer for that kind of stuff. --R On 1/6/2011 10:09 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: I'm in the city, so having a trailer, would mean I'd have to store it somewhere. Some of those small utility trailers fold up in the middle. I saw some for sale around here that would easily store along the wall of a typical garage, vertically inside, tongue and tail in the air and sitting on the wheels. I think this was at Fred Meyer, a local chain that has groceries, automotive, furniture, garden, etc. Typical Harbor Freight kind of product, and I think around $300 brand new at the time. Just add plywood (for a deck). Not heavy duty at all, but it's not for people who need it to work for a living. Saw one of that ilk behind some Mercedes sedan at the local Home Despot once. Highly attractive way to go, 'cept we've already got trucks, and now a car trailer. But the small light trailer would handle 95% of everything you'd probably want to do except haul a car! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300 SD vac lines again!
+1 on the MityVac, they're cheap enough. I did my first vacuum repair this year, its not that hard but without a MityVac you've got no idea whats going on. Its like troubleshooting a computer with your eyes closed. -Curt Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 18:56:09 -0800 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 300 SD vac lines again! Message-ID: 839d6621-1940-11e0-a45a-000502d9a...@windwireless.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Vacuum accessory problems? You _need_ a MityVac. Really. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] H rated and governors
You NEED a 2 day work week if you've got all that other stuff. I have a hard enough time with 3 cars, 2 motorcycles, 4 snowmobiles, a house and a camp... I've tried and tried to figure out how to convert to a 4 day work week (4x 10hr days) but considering what I do (corporate instructor) its not possible. Fortunately lately I've had some down time (not teaching I mean) and I've been able to work from home a lot. That ends next week... -Curt Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 21:31:24 -0600 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] H rated and governors Message-ID: 20110105213124.10f5ed51.fmi...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Curt Raymond wrote: LOL, they were talking mini-vans on the radio this morning and I was struck by the number of people who need a mini-van for their one or two kids. My friend Devin has 4 crumb grabbers, he NEEDS a mini-van (and has one). Seems like with 2 kids most folks need a large sedan, maybe not even a large sedan while the kids are small. Have you ever tried to move from the front seat to the back where the kids are to help them (a snack, the dropped toy, removing brother's fingers from hair, etc) in a sedan? Now try in a van - mini or not. Or try getting kids into car seats in the rain in a sedan. But I _really_ don't like working on a van, so there are none in my fleet. Our world has gone crazy, nobody knows the difference between need and want anymore... Oh so true!! I need at least three houses (primary house, lake house, mountain cabin), four boats (john boat, ski boat, cabin cruiser, and sail boat), eight cars, and a 2-day work week! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 / OM617 questions
The alignment shop actually charged me extra on my 190D because they had a hard time getting the tie rods to move. Considering the price if they'd asked I'd have said to replace them... -Curt Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 21:24:35 -0600 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 / OM617 questions Message-ID: 20110105212435.b7444e59.fmi...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Tim C wrote: Thanks Philip! Your welcome. 8) Alignment: tire shop says I need one, but I gather it's I do it myself. ?I bought a caster/camber gauge years ago. ?I use a laser level to do the toe-in. ?I've now done the process three times. ?Each was successful - the last being the best, fastest - of course. Interesting, I've never heard of anyone DIY (well, DIT :). Do you recall how long it took you the first time? Not the fabrication just the actual alignment part. Uhmmm. The process of turning tie-rods until the toe-in is correct probably takes less than an hour. The process of getting the tie-rods to actually turn? That can take a while. On at least one of the cars, I removed the whole thing and got it moving free on the bench in the vise, then re-installed it. Also, I liberally grease the threads so it will move next time I want it to. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] H rated and governors
A friend at work just dumped his Cooper for a Subaru Impreza (the hatchback like Ken Block drives minus several hundred HP). He was concerned that as it aged it was still just a car made by some English blokes with dubious standards. He intends to keep the Subaru forever. -Curt Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:39:34 -0500 From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] H rated and governors Message-ID: aanlktinrkognyp+nj=6pkkmkia3spfgix83ff6efv...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I don't really NEED a mini-van, but it seems several of my friends feel I need one. My mother advised me in a couple of years, when all the house projects are finished, to dump the van and get a Mini Cooper S. She's a pretty cool Mum! :-) Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors
And to think I was put out that my trailer plate went up to $20 this year... Local tax is another $5, my insurance company charges nothing for it though. -Curt Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 21:40:51 -0600 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors Message-ID: 20110105214051.5579f7b1.fmi...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII E M wrote: I won't tell you I bought a minivan a couple of years ago. *blush*. I have little use for such a thing, but I wanted to do a few renovations around the house, and figured over the next few years, it would be handy. But you're right, hard to justify hauling all the metal around most days, for the odd time I carry a few sheets of plywood or drywall home. It's hard to beat a small utility trailer for occasional hauling duty. Less than $1000 _including_ a hitch on the tow car, low tax, hitch it only when you need it, and even the little ones have 1000 lb (500 kg) load capacity making it comparable to a half-ton pickup. Oh, and the deck is lower so loading/unloading is easier. I think I just convinced myself!! I should go buy one! A companion for the big one I have already. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody find some twenny-foos to donk Wilton's ride
I loaned him the keys to my old 911, and I haven't seen or heard from him since. hee hee Ed 300E On 6 January 2011 09:51, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Haven't heard from Wilton this holiday season - maybe his Bride finally got him some twenny-foos and he's been busy chillin and cruizin wit da boys? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 334k miles '95 E300 277k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling
Actually My 190D has a trailer hitch and I was thinking of using it to haul the snowmobile trailer. There are times when I want to ride after work and running to my wife's office to get the pickup is a pain in the butt. The snowmobile weighs ~600# so I'd figure around 900# total weight with the trailer, maybe round up to 1000#. The trailhead is about 3 miles away (too far to take the sled on the side of the road) so its not like its a long highway drive. The only thing standing in the way right now is that the car isn't wired for lights, does anybody know of a source for the wiring kit? Autozone was flummoxed. My Ranger came wired for them but on the Dakota I bought a little kit that plugged inline with the taillights. -Curt Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:04:58 -0500 From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors Message-ID: aanlktimvjfb_kt1j=vhkykvwarr3ws-5kbfvdi0m3...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I friend was looking at some. I've never really looking into it to be honest. Before the mini-van, when I needed to bring something larger home from HomeDept, I just rented one of their vans by the hour. I do know, one of the questions they always ask here, when applying for insurance, is whether you are going to us your vehicle to tow anything. Trailers also need to be plated here, but I'm sure that applies most places. I'm in the city, so having a trailer, would mean I'd have to store it somewhere. I think once I get the bulk of the things finished around the house, I'll probably go back to renting for the occasional time I'll need to bring something larger home. On a bit of a side note, while we all see Mercedes pulling trailers in Europe on a regular basis, I was told here, that any towing would void the warranty. My car is wy out of warranty, but it might effect your car as it's probably still covered. Not that I'm suggesting you have any plans to turn your Benz into a trailer tug. hee hee Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors
I have a mighty fine utility trailer made from the cargo bed of a ~'38 Ford pickup; 'put new axle, springs and wheels on it 'bout 10 years ago. When I put the new springs, etc., on it, I must have measured a dozen times before I welded. It also has 123 MB wheel covers plus a 123 trunk star on the tailgate. It pulls/trails perfectly true behind my '87 300D; 'makes for some good conversation, too - people say it's the only MB trailer they've seen - me, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors E M wrote: I won't tell you I bought a minivan a couple of years ago. *blush*. I have little use for such a thing, but I wanted to do a few renovations around the house, and figured over the next few years, it would be handy. But you're right, hard to justify hauling all the metal around most days, for the odd time I carry a few sheets of plywood or drywall home. It's hard to beat a small utility trailer for occasional hauling duty. Less than $1000 _including_ a hitch on the tow car, low tax, hitch it only when you need it, and even the little ones have 1000 lb (500 kg) load capacity making it comparable to a half-ton pickup. Oh, and the deck is lower so loading/unloading is easier. I think I just convinced myself!! I should go buy one! A companion for the big one I have already. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VersaTrailer WAS: cheap hauling -
Mine does, and I occasionally pull my mighty fine MB/Ford trailer with it. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] VersaTrailer WAS: cheap hauling - Dieselhead wrote: A common price for a good Coleman VersaTrailer is $250-$350, so that one is LA is a steal. There's one a couple of hours away with wood stake sides, no top, asking $150. Looks like the ultimate garden tractor trailer, if your garden tractor takes a 1 7/8 hitch ball. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody find some twenny-foos to donk Wilton's ride
Here I am; 'been listenin' and watchin'. Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 9:51 AM Subject: [MBZ] Somebody find some twenny-foos to donk Wilton's ride Haven't heard from Wilton this holiday season - maybe his Bride finally got him some twenny-foos and he's been busy chillin and cruizin wit da boys? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 334k miles '95 E300 277k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors
Wilton put the twenny fos on the trailer! --R On 1/6/2011 10:35 AM, WILTON wrote: I have a mighty fine utility trailer made from the cargo bed of a ~'38 Ford pickup; 'put new axle, springs and wheels on it 'bout 10 years ago. When I put the new springs, etc., on it, I must have measured a dozen times before I welded. It also has 123 MB wheel covers plus a 123 trunk star on the tailgate. It pulls/trails perfectly true behind my '87 300D; 'makes for some good conversation, too - people say it's the only MB trailer they've seen - me, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors E M wrote: I won't tell you I bought a minivan a couple of years ago. *blush*. I have little use for such a thing, but I wanted to do a few renovations around the house, and figured over the next few years, it would be handy. But you're right, hard to justify hauling all the metal around most days, for the odd time I carry a few sheets of plywood or drywall home. It's hard to beat a small utility trailer for occasional hauling duty. Less than $1000 _including_ a hitch on the tow car, low tax, hitch it only when you need it, and even the little ones have 1000 lb (500 kg) load capacity making it comparable to a half-ton pickup. Oh, and the deck is lower so loading/unloading is easier. I think I just convinced myself!! I should go buy one! A companion for the big one I have already. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling
Curt Raymond wrote: Actually My 190D has a trailer hitch and I was thinking of using it to haul the snowmobile trailer. With the last car I wired, I got three inline fuse holders and a four prong connector. Soldered the wires for the fuse holders into the taillight and stop/turn wires. Then I soldered the connector to the fuse holders and to a ground wire. My car wiring was too short to make it out of the hatch, but that was OK, when I rewired the trailer I left about 4' of wire running past the hitch, and I'd open the hatch and make my trailer connection out of the weather. I had one major advantage over you, the car had integrated stop/tail lights, just like the trailer. I suppose you'd need diodes to isolate the turn signals from the stop lights so they didn't backfeed the car lights. I'm pretty sure the W201 is rated for 500kg or 750kg without trailer brakes. MBUSA, of course, rates all cars at 0kg for towing. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors
When the Ranger is used up I'm considering something in a small SUV instead of another pickup, unless Mahindra comes through with a 30mpg diesel. I'd like better fuel economy than the Ranger is capable of but still maintaining the Ranger's offroad chops. This rules out things like Subarus, don't even suggest them. Unfortunately it also rules out most of the softroaders like the Escape (a joke offroad), the new Explorer (which is HUGE) and a bunch of others. So I dunno... Interestingly (to further confuse the issue) the '10 Ford F150 gets better (EPA estimate anyway) mileage than my '03 Ranger and the new Tacoma is better than that... -Curt Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:37:16 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors Message-ID: a06240839c94af50a5...@[192.168.1.51] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed It's hard to beat a small utility trailer for occasional hauling duty. Less than $1000 _including_ a hitch on the tow car, low tax, hitch it only when you need it, and even the little ones have 1000 lb (500 kg) load capacity making it comparable to a half-ton pickup. Oh, and the deck is lower so loading/unloading is easier. I think I just convinced myself!! I should go buy one! A companion for the big one I have already. -- Philip A coleman VersaTrailer utility trailer is hard to beat. Like this one: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/rvs/2134782553.html Light, easy to pull, the top is removable. the front and back tailgates fold down for long stuff. It tips for dumping dirt/rocks. Tongue folds. It can be tipped up and stored against a garage wall. If anyone buys one, I would like to find a good used top for mine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors
Curt Raymond wrote: When the Ranger is used up I'm considering something in a small SUV instead of another pickup, unless Mahindra comes through with a 30mpg diesel. Turbo Chevy LUV and Isuzu P'UP had good off road capability and excellent fuel economy, but try finding one that hasn't dissolved into a pile of rust flakes... My brother had a gasser '78 2wd LUV. Nice little rig, got 30mpg IIRC, but not much room in the cab. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Windows on Mac
I don't think there is a mac list on Okiebenz so I will annoy y'all with this. Task is to put some flavor of Windows on an iMac 3.2GHz Intel Core 13 4GB 1333 Mhz DDR3 Mac OSX 10.6.5 I have lots of stuff on my old XP box so I would like to import/install some of these apps on the Macwindows as they are only windows (and some XP) apps. Questions: What flavor of windows thingie should I get? Looks like there is Boot Camp for XP and some other stuff, but that is either/or. VMWare or Parallels will run a window with windows (!!), so that seems like a better choice. What flavor of Windows? I want to keep my XP box running, so I will need to get a new WinXP (and which version?, and how do I know they aren't some chinee ripoffs?) or Win7 -- it appears that Win7 has some sort of XP emulator so old XP apps can run on it? Help me decide! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Timing Chain Crimping Tool
I actually located the plans/drawings for the crimping tool last evening in file folder at home. All needed dimensions are provided. I would love to see photos of the real thing so that I had it set in my mind. The basic frame, and handle seem simple enough. The threaded rod that one uses to tighten it is also fairly simple. The parts that have me a bit confused relate to the anvil. Quite happy to scan and send the drawings to you if you wish. Randy On 05/01/2011 6:31 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: Randy: I too have rekindled an interest in machining not done since high school! I have a Homier 7X12 lathe, a power bandsaw and a Unimat SL1000 lathe/mill. I have thought about making a Timing Chain Crimping Tool myself, and from pictures I've seen of the regulation tool it seems pretty simple. The only parts that should require hardened and tempered tool steel would be the peening tool and the anvil. The rest could be mild steel, even free-machining leaded steel. The dimensions could be guesstimated from pictures of the regulation part. The frame could be assembled and bolted together (using adequate number and size of bolts to handle the stresses) from rectangular stock to minimize milling. Drill and tap for a fairly fine thread to get some mechanical advantage. Accurately locate the anvil from the drilled hole. Make the anvil and peening tool from drill rod, then heat to orange red, quench as appropriate for the type of drill rod; then temper in a 450 degree oven for an hour. HTH Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 3:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Timing Chain Crimping Tool Thank you, Thank you (takes a bow) but I still need the plans. I may have made a copy but if so, I am not certain what I may have done with them. May be in a file at home. In any event, as I said, I have been re-kindling an interest that has been dormant since high school days. I have acquired an old Logan lathe and an inexpensive Chinese Mill and may one day get them hooked up so I can make some chips fly. Randy On 05/01/2011 5:02 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Hey! Maybe there is still hope for the world! A lawyer contemplating MAKING SOMETHING USEFUL! If that caught on, the US and Canyada might just replace KIWIs again as the most ingenious people on the planet. That would be fitting as shyster lawyers have had heavy hands in the wimpification of the Americas. Way to GO Randy! Yay for American Ingenuity! The original AI My recollection, is that once upon a time, someone on here had plans and dimensions for making the crimping tool. Anyone still got a copy of that? I have acquired an interest in machine tools and might just take a stab at making something like that. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Timing Chain Crimping Tool
If it works for 617 chain as well, please do! Walt On Jan 6, 2011 11:06 AM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: I actually located the plans/drawings for the crimping tool last evening in file folder at home. All needed dimensions are provided. I would love to see photos of the real thing so that I had it set in my mind. The basic frame, and handle seem simple enough. The threaded rod that one uses to tighten it is also fairly simple. The parts that have me a bit confused relate to the anvil. Quite happy to scan and send the drawings to you if you wish. Randy On 05/01/2011 6:31 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: Randy: I too have rekindled an interest in machining not done since high school! I have a Homier 7X12 lathe, a power bandsaw and a Unimat SL1000 lathe/mill. I have thought about making a Timing Chain Crimping Tool myself, and from pictures I've seen of the regulation tool it seems pretty simple. The only parts that should require hardened and tempered tool steel would be the peening tool and the anvil. The rest could be mild steel, even free-machining leaded steel. The dimensions could be guesstimated from pictures of the regulation part. The frame could be assembled and bolted together (using adequate number and size of bolts to handle the stresses) from rectangular stock to minimize milling. Drill and tap for a fairly fine thread to get some mechanical advantage. Accurately locate the anvil from the drilled hole. Make the anvil and peening tool from drill rod, then heat to orange red, quench as appropriate for the type of drill rod; then temper in a 450 degree oven for an hour. HTH Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com ] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 3:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Timing Chain Crimping Tool Thank you, Thank you (takes a bow) but I still need the plans. I may have made a copy but if so, I am not certain what I may have done with them. May be in a file at home. In any event, as I said, I have been re-kindling an interest that has been dormant since high school days. I have acquired an old Logan lathe and an inexpensive Chinese Mill and may one day get them hooked up so I can make some chips fly. Randy On 05/01/2011 5:02 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Hey! Maybe there is still hope for the world! A lawyer contemplating MAKING SOMETHING USEFUL! If that caught on, the US and Canyada might just replace KIWIs again as the most ingenious people on the planet. That would be fitting as shyster lawyers have had heavy hands in the wimpification of the Americas. Way to GO Randy! Yay for American Ingenuity! The original AI My recollection, is that once upon a time, someone on here had plans and dimensions for making the crimping tool. Anyone still got a copy of that? I have acquired an interest in machine tools and might just take a stab at making something like that. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Timing Chain Crimping Tool
Again, my point is not really one of needing or wanting to own the tool so much as having a worthwhile machine project to work on. Randy On 05/01/2011 7:26 PM, Michael Esh wrote: I used a ball peen hammer and gently rounded over the ends. It was very easy and worked very well. Mike On 05/01/2011 4:44 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: I have read accounts of people using a sturdy vise-grips to crimp the timing chain. Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Windows on Mac
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: What flavor of windows thingie should I get? Looks like there is Boot Camp for XP and some other stuff, but that is either/or. VMWare or Parallels will run a window with windows (!!), so that seems like a better choice. I'm sold on VMWare over Parallels or VirtualBox for one essential feature that the former has and the others don't: automatic key remapping so that when you switch into Windows the Alt key is where a touch-typist expects it to be (next to the spacebar, rather than next to the Control key as the key labeled Alt [really Option] is on Macs). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Timing Chain Crimping Tool
Not sure what it will do or is intended to do. I believe I got it from this list some time back but all I have is about 4 or 5 pages of flat drawings with dimensions noted. It looks to me like there may be 2 different anvils but I did not spend much time looking at it. Most of my time was spent looking for it. Will see if I can scan it this evening and send it along tomorrow. Randy On 06/01/2011 10:11 AM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: If it works for 617 chain as well, please do! Walt On Jan 6, 2011 11:06 AM, R A Bennellb...@mts.net wrote: I actually located the plans/drawings for the crimping tool last evening in file folder at home. All needed dimensions are provided. I would love to see photos of the real thing so that I had it set in my mind. The basic frame, and handle seem simple enough. The threaded rod that one uses to tighten it is also fairly simple. The parts that have me a bit confused relate to the anvil. Quite happy to scan and send the drawings to you if you wish. Randy On 05/01/2011 6:31 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: Randy: I too have rekindled an interest in machining not done since high school! I have a Homier 7X12 lathe, a power bandsaw and a Unimat SL1000 lathe/mill. I have thought about making a Timing Chain Crimping Tool myself, and from pictures I've seen of the regulation tool it seems pretty simple. The only parts that should require hardened and tempered tool steel would be the peening tool and the anvil. The rest could be mild steel, even free-machining leaded steel. The dimensions could be guesstimated from pictures of the regulation part. The frame could be assembled and bolted together (using adequate number and size of bolts to handle the stresses) from rectangular stock to minimize milling. Drill and tap for a fairly fine thread to get some mechanical advantage. Accurately locate the anvil from the drilled hole. Make the anvil and peening tool from drill rod, then heat to orange red, quench as appropriate for the type of drill rod; then temper in a 450 degree oven for an hour. HTH Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com ] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 3:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Timing Chain Crimping Tool Thank you, Thank you (takes a bow) but I still need the plans. I may have made a copy but if so, I am not certain what I may have done with them. May be in a file at home. In any event, as I said, I have been re-kindling an interest that has been dormant since high school days. I have acquired an old Logan lathe and an inexpensive Chinese Mill and may one day get them hooked up so I can make some chips fly. Randy On 05/01/2011 5:02 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Hey! Maybe there is still hope for the world! A lawyer contemplating MAKING SOMETHING USEFUL! If that caught on, the US and Canyada might just replace KIWIs again as the most ingenious people on the planet. That would be fitting as shyster lawyers have had heavy hands in the wimpification of the Americas. Way to GO Randy! Yay for American Ingenuity! The original AI My recollection, is that once upon a time, someone on here had plans and dimensions for making the crimping tool. Anyone still got a copy of that? I have acquired an interest in machine tools and might just take a stab at making something like that. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change
Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors
Frod is bringing out a v6 twin turbo F150 that is supposed to get 35 mpg. That gets my attention When the Ranger is used up I'm considering something in a small SUV instead of another pickup, unless Mahindra comes through with a 30mpg diesel. I'd like better fuel economy than the Ranger is capable of but still maintaining the Ranger's offroad chops. This rules out things like Subarus, don't even suggest them. Unfortunately it also rules out most of the softroaders like the Escape (a joke offroad), the new Explorer (which is HUGE) and a bunch of others. So I dunno... Interestingly (to further confuse the issue) the '10 Ford F150 gets better (EPA estimate anyway) mileage than my '03 Ranger and the new Tacoma is better than that... -Curt Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:37:16 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors Message-ID: a06240839c94af50a5...@[192.168.1.51] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed It's hard to beat a small utility trailer for occasional hauling duty. Less than $1000 _including_ a hitch on the tow car, low tax, hitch it only when you need it, and even the little ones have 1000 lb (500 kg) load capacity making it comparable to a half-ton pickup. Oh, and the deck is lower so loading/unloading is easier. I think I just convinced myself!! I should go buy one! A companion for the big one I have already. --Philip A coleman VersaTrailer utility trailer is hard to beat. Like this one: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/rvs/2134782553.html Light, easy to pull, the top is removable. the front and back tailgates fold down for long stuff. It tips for dumping dirt/rocks. Tongue folds. It can be tipped up and stored against a garage wall. If anyone buys one, I would like to find a good used top for mine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Windows on Mac
I use the boot camp and XP Pro. No complaints. A VM works but wants LOTS of memory. I believe you can install your current XP on a VM without problem. I'd sure never spend money on Winders 7 to run XP apps. I don't think there is a mac list on Okiebenz so I will annoy y'all with this. Task is to put some flavor of Windows on an iMac 3.2GHz Intel Core 13 4GB 1333 Mhz DDR3 Mac OSX 10.6.5 I have lots of stuff on my old XP box so I would like to import/install some of these apps on the Macwindows as they are only windows (and some XP) apps. Questions: What flavor of windows thingie should I get? Looks like there is Boot Camp for XP and some other stuff, but that is either/or. VMWare or Parallels will run a window with windows (!!), so that seems like a better choice. What flavor of Windows? I want to keep my XP box running, so I will need to get a new WinXP (and which version?, and how do I know they aren't some chinee ripoffs?) or Win7 -- it appears that Win7 has some sort of XP emulator so old XP apps can run on it? Help me decide! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Windows on Mac
Does windows want to go off and certify itself or something? Or if I just load my XP (or make an SP2 update disk) will it run without all that? --R On 1/6/2011 11:12 AM, Dieselhead wrote: I use the boot camp and XP Pro. No complaints. A VM works but wants LOTS of memory. I believe you can install your current XP on a VM without problem. I'd sure never spend money on Winders 7 to run XP apps. I don't think there is a mac list on Okiebenz so I will annoy y'all with this. Task is to put some flavor of Windows on an iMac 3.2GHz Intel Core 13 4GB 1333 Mhz DDR3 Mac OSX 10.6.5 I have lots of stuff on my old XP box so I would like to import/install some of these apps on the Macwindows as they are only windows (and some XP) apps. Questions: What flavor of windows thingie should I get? Looks like there is Boot Camp for XP and some other stuff, but that is either/or. VMWare or Parallels will run a window with windows (!!), so that seems like a better choice. What flavor of Windows? I want to keep my XP box running, so I will need to get a new WinXP (and which version?, and how do I know they aren't some chinee ripoffs?) or Win7 -- it appears that Win7 has some sort of XP emulator so old XP apps can run on it? Help me decide! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300 SD vac lines again!
If you'll call me, I'll check the lines with you over the phone. I just went through this with my Indie. Yes, instead of spending hours tracing down lines with a Mity-vac, I let my Indie do it since he's trained on what to look for, has the manuals, and I'm not. He found a leak in the right rear door lock which was bleeding off vacuum...fixed that. Then the cruise control was leaking vacuum...it don't work and I don't want to use it...so he plugged that. Then we found a leak in the line from the IP to the vacuum modulator on the tranny. I almost never found the part number for the plastic cap (dealer and everyone on line wanted to sell me the whole modulator valve for 70-90.00 instead of 14.00 for the plastic cap). Fixed it and all is well. As to the Hard Wired setup, unless it works differently than what I've read, it won't fix your blower problem. The 80 300SD with the servo has a vacuum pod under the dash which controls the blower, except on defrost. Defrost over rides because the windshield clearing is a driveability / safety issue. Hence, if this pod is bad or any lines that can affect it (like my door lock was doing), you won't get blower except for the defrost. I actually replaced my blower motor, only to find that although it seemed like the problem, it was really a vacuum problem from this control pod under the dash. Anyway, unless you want to buy a Mity-vac, buy the manuals, and spend your spare time trying to figure which line you are really tracing for vacuum, I'd recommend a good Indie. It's cheaper and quicker in the long run. At least that has been my personal experience with my two old 617s...others may have had different outcomes...over which I have had no control. I like DIY also, but I realize my limitations and I realize who is best at what tasks (me or my Indie) and act accordingly. Best Wishes, Roger Hale Monroe, Ga. 770-267-1636 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors
Me too if it ever actually arrives. Thats been in the works for years. Looks like no: http://www.fordf150.net/diesel/ -Curt Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 10:08:39 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors Message-ID: a06240841c94b99496...@[192.168.1.51] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Frod is bringing out a v6 twin turbo F150 that is supposed to get 35 mpg. That gets my attention When the Ranger is used up I'm considering something in a small SUV instead of another pickup, unless Mahindra comes through with a 30mpg diesel. I'd like better fuel economy than the Ranger is capable of but still maintaining the Ranger's offroad chops. This rules out things like Subarus, don't even suggest them. Unfortunately it also rules out most of the softroaders like the Escape (a joke offroad), the new Explorer (which is HUGE) and a bunch of others. So I dunno... Interestingly (to further confuse the issue) the '10 Ford F150 gets better (EPA estimate anyway) mileage than my '03 Ranger and the new Tacoma is better than that... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300 SD vac lines again!
Its important to remember that the vacuum lines on a 1980 are 30+ years old now and ARE going to fail. The plastic has hardened and vibration will make them break. Fixing vacuum issues isn't a Today I work on it and it'll be good forever its going to be I need to work on this every year from now until forever unless you replaced them all now... A mityvac and the vacuum diagram is an investment into your future. Vacuum troubleshooting isn't hard, you follow pull the block, pump it down (or try to anyway) and follow the line to the offender. For example: Last fall I drove myself to the airport in my '78 240D, when I got there the car wouldn't shut off. Manual transmissions are handy, step on the brake, pop the clutch, problem solved. When I got back the problem hadn't magically fixed itself but I did notice it wasn't an issue if the doors were unlocked. Hmm, problem therefore MUST be in the door circuit, specifically the UNLOCK side of the door circuit. Theres a block of vacuum hoses under the driver's feet so I pull back the carpet, start unplugging things and pumping down the mity vac and see what happens. Some lock or unlock doors on the other side of the car (if one pulls down but doesn't do anything release vacuum, change the lock state of the doors (unlock or relock) and see what try again) and one unlocks the rear driver's door but one doesn't seem to do anything and doesn't hold vacuum... Start following that one, it goes under the driver's seat and I find a break where it comes out. Find another in the door. Now the rear passenger's door unlocks and relocks. Start the car and verify function with engine vacuum, thats good AND the car shuts off. Problem solved. Also replaced a 4 way adapter which makes the doors unlock and relock faster and hold vacuum longer. Theres more to be gained on this car (leaky old fittings) but I ran out of time that day and its cold now so I'll work on it more in the spring. -Curt Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:51:27 + (UTC) From: roger...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 300 SD vac lines again! Message-ID: 1187630811.867939.1294332687516.javamail.r...@sz0097a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 If you'll call me, I'll check the lines with you over the phone. I just went through this with my Indie. Yes, instead of spending hours tracing down lines with a Mity-vac, I let my Indie do it since he's trained on what to look for, has the manuals, and I'm not. He found a leak in the right rear door lock which was bleeding off vacuum...fixed that. Then the cruise control was leaking vacuum...it don't work and I don't want to use it...so he plugged that. Then we found a leak in the line from the IP to the vacuum modulator on the tranny. I almost never found the part number for the plastic cap (dealer and everyone on line wanted to sell me the whole modulator valve for 70-90.00 instead of 14.00 for the plastic cap). Fixed it and all is well. As to the Hard Wired setup, unless it works differently than what I've read, it won't fix your blower problem. The 80 300SD with the servo has a vacuum pod under the dash which controls the blower, except on defrost. Defrost over rides because the windshield clearing is a driveability / safety issue. Hence, if this pod is bad or any lines that can affect it (like my door lock was doing), you won't get blower except for the defrost. I actually replaced my blower motor, only to find that although it seemed like the problem, it was really a vacuum problem from this control pod under the dash. Anyway, unless you want to buy a Mity-vac, buy the manuals, and spend your spare time trying to figure which line you are really tracing for vacuum, I'd recommend a good Indie. It's cheaper and quicker in the long run. At least that has been my personal experience with my two old 617s...others may have had different outcomes...over which I have had no control. I like DIY also, but I realize my limitations and I realize who is best at what tasks (me or my Indie) and act accordingly. Best Wishes, Roger Hale Monroe, Ga. 770-267-1636 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Windows on Mac
XP still wants to phone home (activate) I think you have 30 or 60 days. However in the past couple of years M$ seems to let it activate itself without hassle, unlike the early days. I used to try to phone in if I had time, just to cost them more resources for their foolishness. Don't try to beat the activation. just let XP connect, or phone it in. Does windows want to go off and certify itself or something? Or if I just load my XP (or make an SP2 update disk) will it run without all that? --R On 1/6/2011 11:12 AM, Dieselhead wrote: I use the boot camp and XP Pro. No complaints. A VM works but wants LOTS of memory. I believe you can install your current XP on a VM without problem. I'd sure never spend money on Winders 7 to run XP apps. I don't think there is a mac list on Okiebenz so I will annoy y'all with this. Task is to put some flavor of Windows on an iMac 3.2GHz Intel Core 13 4GB 1333 Mhz DDR3 Mac OSX 10.6.5 I have lots of stuff on my old XP box so I would like to import/install some of these apps on the Macwindows as they are only windows (and some XP) apps. Questions: What flavor of windows thingie should I get? Looks like there is Boot Camp for XP and some other stuff, but that is either/or. VMWare or Parallels will run a window with windows (!!), so that seems like a better choice. What flavor of Windows? I want to keep my XP box running, so I will need to get a new WinXP (and which version?, and how do I know they aren't some chinee ripoffs?) or Win7 -- it appears that Win7 has some sort of XP emulator so old XP apps can run on it? Help me decide! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Windows on Mac
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: A VM works but wants LOTS of memory. True, but that of course depends on what OS you want to virtualize. I get along fine by running W2K under VMWare; it's happy with only 512 Mb. But then I'm only using it to run Office 2003, which doesn't need XP. Rich, does the software you want to run really require XP? Legit boxed copies of W2K are available on fleaBay for less than $100. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors
This was the eco-boost gasser. Frod had a female professional driver and the group was going to a dealership in major markets and letting the peons drive one for a minute or two. They never really said it was a gasser or when it was for sale. They also never mentioned the word Diesel in any way. Me too if it ever actually arrives. Thats been in the works for years. Looks like no: http://www.fordf150.net/diesel/ -Curt Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 10:08:39 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors Message-ID: a06240841c94b99496...@[192.168.1.51] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Frod is bringing out a v6 twin turbo F150 that is supposed to get 35 mpg. That gets my attention When the Ranger is used up I'm considering something in a small SUV instead of another pickup, unless Mahindra comes through with a 30mpg diesel. I'd like better fuel economy than the Ranger is capable of but still maintaining the Ranger's offroad chops. This rules out things like Subarus, don't even suggest them. Unfortunately it also rules out most of the softroaders like the Escape (a joke offroad), the new Explorer (which is HUGE) and a bunch of others. So I dunno... Interestingly (to further confuse the issue) the '10 Ford F150 gets better (EPA estimate anyway) mileage than my '03 Ranger and the new Tacoma is better than that... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: This was the eco-boost gasser. That engine's getting rave reviews in the new Taurus SHO. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors
Actually, it uses tires removed from the MB tow vehicle. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors Wilton put the twenny fos on the trailer! --R On 1/6/2011 10:35 AM, WILTON wrote: I have a mighty fine utility trailer made from the cargo bed of a ~'38 Ford pickup; 'put new axle, springs and wheels on it 'bout 10 years ago. When I put the new springs, etc., on it, I must have measured a dozen times before I welded. It also has 123 MB wheel covers plus a 123 trunk star on the tailgate. It pulls/trails perfectly true behind my '87 300D; 'makes for some good conversation, too - people say it's the only MB trailer they've seen - me, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors E M wrote: I won't tell you I bought a minivan a couple of years ago. *blush*. I have little use for such a thing, but I wanted to do a few renovations around the house, and figured over the next few years, it would be handy. But you're right, hard to justify hauling all the metal around most days, for the odd time I carry a few sheets of plywood or drywall home. It's hard to beat a small utility trailer for occasional hauling duty. Less than $1000 _including_ a hitch on the tow car, low tax, hitch it only when you need it, and even the little ones have 1000 lb (500 kg) load capacity making it comparable to a half-ton pickup. Oh, and the deck is lower so loading/unloading is easier. I think I just convinced myself!! I should go buy one! A companion for the big one I have already. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody find some twenny-foos to donk Wilton's ride
BTW, 'doubt if I could hold a candle to Jim, but I wouldn't mine holding a flashlight for 'im sometime. Wilton - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody find some twenny-foos to donk Wilton's ride On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Haven't heard from Wilton this holiday season - maybe his Bride finally got him some twenny-foos and he's been busy chillin and cruizin wit da boys? I think he's lurking until he can surprise us with another feat of mechanical prowess even more astounding than his W124 evapectomy. I'd like to see Wilton and Jim C. go head-to-head on some kind of reality TV show. For $10,000, who can change out a W114 blower fan faster---blindfolded? (Jim gets handicapped by being allowed to use all the microwave metal he wants.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] H rated and governors
yeah, there is that disgruntled English factory worker factor; the guy bolting the engine in, and doors on, to worry about. ;-) The English have a name for it, they say it gives the car charm and soul. Just as they call a bit or rust and worn leather, patina. The rest of the world just calls it crap quality control. hee hee. Gotta love the English. :-) I still want a mini. Ed 300E On 6 January 2011 10:29, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: A friend at work just dumped his Cooper for a Subaru Impreza (the hatchback like Ken Block drives minus several hundred HP). He was concerned that as it aged it was still just a car made by some English blokes with dubious standards. He intends to keep the Subaru forever. -Curt Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:39:34 -0500 From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] H rated and governors Message-ID: aanlktinrkognyp+nj=6pkkmkia3spfgix83ff6efv...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I don't really NEED a mini-van, but it seems several of my friends feel I need one. My mother advised me in a couple of years, when all the house projects are finished, to dump the van and get a Mini Cooper S. She's a pretty cool Mum! :-) Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Timing Chain Crimping Tool
I would be interested in a copy of the plans. I agree that it would be a nice project for a novice machinist. I know I've seen pictures of the tool, I'll see if I can locate them. As to the anvil: Some have described the process as peening, and that could be done. IIRC the regulation tool does not actually peen, but rather stakes the end of the pin by pushing a sharp wedge into the center. The finished pin has a cross pattern pressed into it (most likely by moving a wedge 90 degrees and pressing again). This forces the edges out and completes the link. Interchangeable anvils could be made to a close sliding fit in a hole in one side of the frame, fashioned from drill rod and ground or milled to a wedge on the business end. The end of the screw could also have a removable piece on the end with a recess to receive the end of the pin and not slip. BTW, if the frame were to be made as described below, it would be best to machine the two ends while held together to better line up the anvil with the clamp screw. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 8:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Timing Chain Crimping Tool I actually located the plans/drawings for the crimping tool last evening in file folder at home. All needed dimensions are provided. I would love to see photos of the real thing so that I had it set in my mind. The basic frame, and handle seem simple enough. The threaded rod that one uses to tighten it is also fairly simple. The parts that have me a bit confused relate to the anvil. Quite happy to scan and send the drawings to you if you wish. Randy On 05/01/2011 6:31 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: Randy: I too have rekindled an interest in machining not done since high school! I have a Homier 7X12 lathe, a power bandsaw and a Unimat SL1000 lathe/mill. I have thought about making a Timing Chain Crimping Tool myself, and from pictures I've seen of the regulation tool it seems pretty simple. The only parts that should require hardened and tempered tool steel would be the peening tool and the anvil. The rest could be mild steel, even free-machining leaded steel. The dimensions could be guesstimated from pictures of the regulation part. The frame could be assembled and bolted together (using adequate number and size of bolts to handle the stresses) from rectangular stock to minimize milling. Drill and tap for a fairly fine thread to get some mechanical advantage. Accurately locate the anvil from the drilled hole. Make the anvil and peening tool from drill rod, then heat to orange red, quench as appropriate for the type of drill rod; then temper in a 450 degree oven for an hour. HTH Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 3:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Timing Chain Crimping Tool Thank you, Thank you (takes a bow) but I still need the plans. I may have made a copy but if so, I am not certain what I may have done with them. May be in a file at home. In any event, as I said, I have been re-kindling an interest that has been dormant since high school days. I have acquired an old Logan lathe and an inexpensive Chinese Mill and may one day get them hooked up so I can make some chips fly. Randy On 05/01/2011 5:02 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Hey! Maybe there is still hope for the world! A lawyer contemplating MAKING SOMETHING USEFUL! If that caught on, the US and Canyada might just replace KIWIs again as the most ingenious people on the planet. That would be fitting as shyster lawyers have had heavy hands in the wimpification of the Americas. Way to GO Randy! Yay for American Ingenuity! The original AI My recollection, is that once upon a time, someone on here had plans and dimensions for making the crimping tool. Anyone still got a copy of that? I have acquired an interest in machine tools and might just take a stab at making something like that. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] Timing Chain Crimping Tool
Here are some pics of a similar tool: http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/shopcart/TOOL/POR_TOOL_SAABTL_pg12.htm Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 8:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Timing Chain Crimping Tool I actually located the plans/drawings for the crimping tool last evening in file folder at home. All needed dimensions are provided. I would love to see photos of the real thing so that I had it set in my mind. The basic frame, and handle seem simple enough. The threaded rod that one uses to tighten it is also fairly simple. The parts that have me a bit confused relate to the anvil. Quite happy to scan and send the drawings to you if you wish. Randy On 05/01/2011 6:31 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: Randy: I too have rekindled an interest in machining not done since high school! I have a Homier 7X12 lathe, a power bandsaw and a Unimat SL1000 lathe/mill. I have thought about making a Timing Chain Crimping Tool myself, and from pictures I've seen of the regulation tool it seems pretty simple. The only parts that should require hardened and tempered tool steel would be the peening tool and the anvil. The rest could be mild steel, even free-machining leaded steel. The dimensions could be guesstimated from pictures of the regulation part. The frame could be assembled and bolted together (using adequate number and size of bolts to handle the stresses) from rectangular stock to minimize milling. Drill and tap for a fairly fine thread to get some mechanical advantage. Accurately locate the anvil from the drilled hole. Make the anvil and peening tool from drill rod, then heat to orange red, quench as appropriate for the type of drill rod; then temper in a 450 degree oven for an hour. HTH Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 3:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Timing Chain Crimping Tool Thank you, Thank you (takes a bow) but I still need the plans. I may have made a copy but if so, I am not certain what I may have done with them. May be in a file at home. In any event, as I said, I have been re-kindling an interest that has been dormant since high school days. I have acquired an old Logan lathe and an inexpensive Chinese Mill and may one day get them hooked up so I can make some chips fly. Randy On 05/01/2011 5:02 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Hey! Maybe there is still hope for the world! A lawyer contemplating MAKING SOMETHING USEFUL! If that caught on, the US and Canyada might just replace KIWIs again as the most ingenious people on the planet. That would be fitting as shyster lawyers have had heavy hands in the wimpification of the Americas. Way to GO Randy! Yay for American Ingenuity! The original AI My recollection, is that once upon a time, someone on here had plans and dimensions for making the crimping tool. Anyone still got a copy of that? I have acquired an interest in machine tools and might just take a stab at making something like that. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Watch question
Watch Experts, I'm considering the purchase of a new watch - I need to get something with a leather band as my Seiko with metal band has begun to irritate the skin on my wrist. Yesterday I looked at a Tissot priced at $550, which is pretty steep for my budget, but a really nice watch. Black face with black leather band, automatic movement, smooth sweep second hand, date (week day and day of month). The sales lady says it is part of their vintage collection, and the style is rather 50's/60's (thus the name). Face has standard numbers - not Roman. Sapphire crystal, water proof to 100 meters. Anyone have an opinion of Tissot watches? $550 sound like a fair price? I found a similar watch but with Roman numerals on Ebay for $750, but I also saw other Tissot automatic watches for $100. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 333k miles '95 E300 277k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Watch question
Why don't you just buy a leather band for the one you have? Maybe like $10 and yer good ta go... Or better yet, make one from MBTex and it will last forever! --R On 1/6/2011 2:28 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Watch Experts, I'm considering the purchase of a new watch - I need to get something with a leather band as my Seiko with metal band has begun to irritate the skin on my wrist. Yesterday I looked at a Tissot priced at $550, which is pretty steep for my budget, but a really nice watch. Black face with black leather band, automatic movement, smooth sweep second hand, date (week day and day of month). The sales lady says it is part of their vintage collection, and the style is rather 50's/60's (thus the name). Face has standard numbers - not Roman. Sapphire crystal, water proof to 100 meters. Anyone have an opinion of Tissot watches? $550 sound like a fair price? I found a similar watch but with Roman numerals on Ebay for $750, but I also saw other Tissot automatic watches for $100. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 333k miles '95 E300 277k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors
O, you put turbo and 35mpg and I made an assumption... I don't have crazy big needs, manual trans, 4wd, maybe 180HP (this is a truck after all), towing hitch, extended cab with a real back seat, my dog hates the jump seats in the Ranger. I'd like to see ~25mpg, 30 would be gravy. -Curt Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 11:58:49 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors Message-ID: a06240845c94bb2554...@[192.168.1.51] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed This was the eco-boost gasser. Frod had a female professional driver and the group was going to a dealership in major markets and letting the peons drive one for a minute or two. They never really said it was a gasser or when it was for sale. They also never mentioned the word Diesel in any way. Me too if it ever actually arrives. Thats been in the works for years. Looks like no: http://www.fordf150.net/diesel/ -Curt Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 10:08:39 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors Message-ID: a06240841c94b99496...@[192.168.1.51] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Frod is bringing out a v6 twin turbo F150 that is supposed to get 35 mpg. That gets my attention ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Watch question
If you want an old style automatic that you won't see on anybody else's wrist, take a look at Perpetual: http://www.perpetual-watch.com/ Sea-Gull has quite a selection, and the USA distributor sells them cheaper than you'll find in China. http://usseagull.com/EnProduct.asp Orient USA (Japanese watch company, owned by Seiko now) usually has 49% off coupons. I think ST149 is the current code. http://www.orientwatchusa.com/ I'm sure there are some deals around half off list or better on Tissot. The affordables forum on watchuseek might help you find them. http://forums.watchuseek.com/f71/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] diesel pop tester
Folks, I think i've asked this before. Does anyone have a diesel pop tester that they would consider selling. I'm either looking for one to buy or i'll have to build one please email me directly if you have something this is to be used on 123 injectors thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Watch question
I've had 2 Citizen Eco Drives over the last decade. I wish they could build cars like these watches. Other than having to change the date occasionally, you set it and ferget it. I once left one in a drawer for over a week, kept perfect time. I am pretty hard on watches too. -Rolf On 01/06/2011 03:11 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: If you want an old style automatic that you won't see on anybody else's wrist, take a look at Perpetual: http://www.perpetual-watch.com/ Sea-Gull has quite a selection, and the USA distributor sells them cheaper than you'll find in China. http://usseagull.com/EnProduct.asp Orient USA (Japanese watch company, owned by Seiko now) usually has 49% off coupons. I think ST149 is the current code. http://www.orientwatchusa.com/ I'm sure there are some deals around half off list or better on Tissot. The affordables forum on watchuseek might help you find them. http://forums.watchuseek.com/f71/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mini
...Gotta love the English. :-) I still want a mini... The German one built by BMW, one assumes. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Becker Grand Prix presets '84 300D
What am I doin' wrong? As per the instructions in the owner's manual, I pushed a particular preset (e.g. F4) and cleared this preset by hitting the * button which cleared the window. I then pushed F9, F1, F9 (e.g. 91.9FM) and this particuler station is displayed, but the radio reverts to the original station which was on preset F4 prior to hitting the * button when I change to another preset and switch back to F4. TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors
Dieselhead wrote: A coleman VersaTrailer utility trailer is hard to beat. Like this one: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/rvs/2134782553.html Light, easy to pull, the top is removable. the front and back tailgates fold down for long stuff. It tips for dumping dirt/rocks. Tongue folds. It can be tipped up and stored against a garage wall. If anyone buys one, I would like to find a good used top for mine. Loren, this one in Colorado looks very nice: http://denver.craigslist.org/for/2084618705.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors
'Looks more like a toy. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors Dieselhead wrote: A coleman VersaTrailer utility trailer is hard to beat. Like this one: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/rvs/2134782553.html Light, easy to pull, the top is removable. the front and back tailgates fold down for long stuff. It tips for dumping dirt/rocks. Tongue folds. It can be tipped up and stored against a garage wall. If anyone buys one, I would like to find a good used top for mine. Loren, this one in Colorado looks very nice: http://denver.craigslist.org/for/2084618705.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] H rated and governors
Some of them have the limit (and several other parameters) stored in the instrument cluster--with the 210's, most of the configuration is stored in the cluster and the PSE (pneumatic pump under the rear seat) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jan 5, 2011, at 9:46, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: Time to get out the prom burner and remove the limit! Walt On Jan 4, 2011 11:54 PM, John Freer mbfo...@gmail.com wrote: Well, my discovery was found hidden in the 900 page owners manual which may take me the rest of my life to finish reading it. Boring I know and sure not like the good ole days! John On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 7:45 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Wonderful car, even if you can only manage 130mph in it. I won't ask how you just learned it will only do 130mph. ;-) hee hee Ed 300E On 4 January 2011 21:37, John Freer mbfo...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I just learned that my new to me 07 S550 is governed at 130 MPH. My 86 190 2.6 would do batter than that! John On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 5:16 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...I've read that originally, the W140 was intended to have higher levels of performance, but after lots of complains about tire wear (mostly from the US market), they kind of dumbed down the performance, to give better tire life... That's about it. In 1992 the 140 came with at least V-rated tires and they were included in the 50K mile warranty. MB soon found out that they were replacing them at least twice during warranty which was not in their plans. This may have been related to the 1992 front suspension problems but that's just a guess. So, the next year they used H-rated tires (longer life, cheaper and not covered by MB warranty) and governed the cars to 130mph which is why we have H-rated tires and 130mph governors today. Except on certain models. My C300 could manage about 150mph eventually but at 130mph the car just stops accelerating. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Watch question
Rolf wrote: I've had 2 Citizen Eco Drives over the last decade. I wish they could build cars like these watches. Other than having to change the date occasionally, you set it and ferget it. I once left one in a drawer for over a week, kept perfect time. I am pretty hard on watches too. Ecodrives come with a 3-6 month battery now. I think they used to just have a capacitor in them. It's probably better for the battery if you leave it where it can catch some light daily though. Orient now has a 'solar powered' line. I never really warmed up to the Seiko Kinetic line of self charging quartz watches. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] diesel pop tester
Another project to Randy and/or Rich! I'd buy one too! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] H rated and governors
Ummm the turbo 606 engines will easily wind past that, but I think they become torque-limited at around 130. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jan 5, 2011, at 14:21, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, a lot of them aren't too bad. I saw 230-240 kph once in a Porsche Twin Turbo Cayenne on the track. Doesn't sound that fast, but given the length of the track, the trucks weight, and that it had to scrub off all that speed for a corner, was pretty impressive. When I was over touring around the North of Italy, I logged lots of kms on the Autostrada at 180kph+, in a little 4 banger with only 2.0L. Had it loaded down with luggage and two people in the back too. It had long legs for what it was, but even driving it as I did, it returned amazing fuel economy. It was the most fun I've ever had in a car on public roads. Not just the Autostrada, but driving up in the Alps too. The fastest indicated speed I ever saw in a diesel, was 95mph in an old 300D. We had a good tailwind, and a long run of road, and all the stars and planets were aligned. hee hee. It felt like breaking the sound barrier in C17 at 20 feet off the ground ;-) Ed 300E On 5 January 2011 11:42, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: The S class, even with the smaller V8 available in Europe, or with the diesel, hits about 240km/h pretty easily. I've experienced them on the autobahn... the power and acceleration is quite remarkable. Even the A class can do 200km/h if you give a bit of time... kinda like a 240D getting upto 85mph. Jaime On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:32 AM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Not before updating those tires first. ;-) Several of the German manufactures had a gentleman's agreement (in the past) to cap their cars at 155, more or less to keep the Greenies off their backs. I suspect the current caps at 130 are to address mechanical limitations. You know, find the weakest link in the chain, and put the cap there. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Becker Grand Prix presets '84 300D
The * key isn't related to presets... its a function key that, among other things, allows you to do a direct entry of the frequency as you already discovered. To save a preset, tune to the desired station by any method (seek, direct entry, etc) then press and hold the preset you'd like to save the station too. Keep holding. It will change to it's old saved station, then after a few seconds, to the new preset you have saved. Jaime On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:41 PM, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: What am I doin' wrong? As per the instructions in the owner's manual, I pushed a particular preset (e.g. F4) and cleared this preset by hitting the * button which cleared the window. I then pushed F9, F1, F9 (e.g. 91.9FM) and this particuler station is displayed, but the radio reverts to the original station which was on preset F4 prior to hitting the * button when I change to another preset and switch back to F4. TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] diesel pop tester
I bought one from these guys: http://www.mercedessource.com/ Yes you could make one also. But its easy to just buy theirs already made. The gauge and diesel cup are a bit cheap, but it does the job. I'll be doing my second set of injectors this weekend. They're also a good source for nozzles, shims, etc. Jaime On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Another project to Randy and/or Rich! I'd buy one too! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mini
Salesgirl at one of our local BMW shops drivers a Cooper S. Not really much to compare between the old original minis, and what is offered today. I've been in a number of old ones, and while they are great fun, you could never build a car like that today. Not if you plan on selling it in any developed nation anyway. The new ones seem as though they're bolted together quite well. If there is a drawback, they are a small market, and I think most parts are specific to mini, so parts availability are pretty much limited to the dealer, when things start to fail in time. I haven't heard of any real issues with the new ones. I've never really worried about the cost of fuel, as I don't log that many miles to be honest. But with traffic what it is in the city, driving and parking is becoming a real pain. The mini and W212 are on my short list when it becomes time to replace the mini van in 2-3 years. Ed 300E On 6 January 2011 15:38, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Gotta love the English. :-) I still want a mini... The German one built by BMW, one assumes. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] H rated and governors
We felt pretty brave squeezing 95 mph out of that old '76 300D. lol It didn't feel unsafe, but it did feel as thought the car was reminding us, what we were asking of it. Ed 300E On 6 January 2011 15:50, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Ummm the turbo 606 engines will easily wind past that, but I think they become torque-limited at around 130. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jan 5, 2011, at 14:21, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, a lot of them aren't too bad. I saw 230-240 kph once in a Porsche Twin Turbo Cayenne on the track. Doesn't sound that fast, but given the length of the track, the trucks weight, and that it had to scrub off all that speed for a corner, was pretty impressive. When I was over touring around the North of Italy, I logged lots of kms on the Autostrada at 180kph+, in a little 4 banger with only 2.0L. Had it loaded down with luggage and two people in the back too. It had long legs for what it was, but even driving it as I did, it returned amazing fuel economy. It was the most fun I've ever had in a car on public roads. Not just the Autostrada, but driving up in the Alps too. The fastest indicated speed I ever saw in a diesel, was 95mph in an old 300D. We had a good tailwind, and a long run of road, and all the stars and planets were aligned. hee hee. It felt like breaking the sound barrier in C17 at 20 feet off the ground ;-) Ed 300E On 5 January 2011 11:42, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: The S class, even with the smaller V8 available in Europe, or with the diesel, hits about 240km/h pretty easily. I've experienced them on the autobahn... the power and acceleration is quite remarkable. Even the A class can do 200km/h if you give a bit of time... kinda like a 240D getting upto 85mph. Jaime On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:32 AM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Not before updating those tires first. ;-) Several of the German manufactures had a gentleman's agreement (in the past) to cap their cars at 155, more or less to keep the Greenies off their backs. I suspect the current caps at 130 are to address mechanical limitations. You know, find the weakest link in the chain, and put the cap there. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling
Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes: I had one major advantage over you, the car had integrated stop/tail lights, just like the trailer. I suppose you'd need diodes to isolate the turn signals from the stop lights so they didn't backfeed the car lights. http://www.easternmarine.com/Flat-4-Prong-Tail-Light-Converter-V5410/ -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: mercedes 300 td turbo diesel(station wagon) - $900 (cranston)
Doesn't indicate year.
Not mine, etc.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
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mercedes 300 td turbo diesel(station wagon)
Date: 2011-01-04, 8:08PM
it got 287000 miles on it..no leak.. good tranny and engine..new
radiator brake lines trany lines battery..drives shifts fine..no major
problems on the car...window dont go down..sun roof mowes half
etc..little problems here and there..but on whole ot drives
fine..$900...you cant find a mercedes for that price no nowhere..,fuel
prices started going up..so it s time for biodiesel.
it has sticker until 2012..perfect for veggie oil or biodiesel..if
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[MBZ] Fwd: 1984 Mercedes-Benz 230 E (W123) RARE 5-SPEED - $1500 (Newport)
Not mine, etc.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
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Date: 2011-01-06, 2:21PM
Runs and drives, needs work. There is rust. Excellent MPG, power sunroof
works, power windows, velour interior. Blue in color over blue/gray
interior. Daily driver must sell due to move. If you are a true Mercedes
enthusiast, you will understand how rare this transmission is- take it
out and mount it on your 300D. Make me an offer, no low ballers (I would
rather take it with me if I have to). Please call 951 440 4935 and ask
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Re: [MBZ] OT Windows on Mac
I use VirtualBox from Sun (now Oracle). http://www.virtualbox.org/ Free Open Source. Works well to run Win7 on my Mac. Allan Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: I don't think there is a mac list on Okiebenz so I will annoy y'all with this. Task is to put some flavor of Windows on an iMac 3.2GHz Intel Core 13 4GB 1333 Mhz DDR3 Mac OSX 10.6.5 I have lots of stuff on my old XP box so I would like to import/install some of these apps on the Macwindows as they are only windows (and some XP) apps. Questions: What flavor of windows thingie should I get? Looks like there is Boot Camp for XP and some other stuff, but that is either/or. VMWare or Parallels will run a window with windows (!!), so that seems like a better choice. What flavor of Windows? I want to keep my XP box running, so I will need to get a new WinXP (and which version?, and how do I know they aren't some chinee ripoffs?) or Win7 -- it appears that Win7 has some sort of XP emulator so old XP apps can run on it? Help me decide! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 / OM617 questions
Max Dillon wrote: Philip - thanks for the excellent toe-in write up! Thanks. :) How about another showing off your camber/caster tool? I bought it from JCWhitney about 15 years ago. It looks a lot like this one http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/product/1934/Caster_Camber_Gauges But I also found a home-made one. About 3/4 the way down on this page: http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133574 Basically, a way of accurately measuring how far off from vertical the wheel is. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1984 Mercedes-Benz 230 E (W123) RARE 5-SPEED - $1500 (Newport)
Is that five speeds plus reverse, or five speeds including reverse? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Windows on Mac
BootCamp for XP, Parallels for pretty much anything else. And yes, VM ware is free or cheap, but you better have your RAM maxed out or it won't work for crap. MacDann Sent from my iPod On Jan 6, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I don't think there is a mac list on Okiebenz so I will annoy y'all with this. Task is to put some flavor of Windows on an iMac 3.2GHz Intel Core 13 4GB 1333 Mhz DDR3 Mac OSX 10.6.5 I have lots of stuff on my old XP box so I would like to import/install some of these apps on the Macwindows as they are only windows (and some XP) apps. Questions: What flavor of windows thingie should I get? Looks like there is Boot Camp for XP and some other stuff, but that is either/or. VMWare or Parallels will run a window with windows (!!), so that seems like a better choice. What flavor of Windows? I want to keep my XP box running, so I will need to get a new WinXP (and which version?, and how do I know they aren't some chinee ripoffs?) or Win7 -- it appears that Win7 has some sort of XP emulator so old XP apps can run on it? Help me decide! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors
Agreed, but it is amazingly light but sturdy, and infinitely useful. Nothing ever broke. I lost one 1/4 bolt in 15 years or so. 'Looks more like a toy. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors Dieselhead wrote: A coleman VersaTrailer utility trailer is hard to beat. Like this one: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/rvs/2134782553.html Light, easy to pull, the top is removable. the front and back tailgates fold down for long stuff. It tips for dumping dirt/rocks. Tongue folds. It can be tipped up and stored against a garage wall. If anyone buys one, I would like to find a good used top for mine. Loren, this one in Colorado looks very nice: http://denver.craigslist.org/for/2084618705.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Becker Grand Prix presets '84 300D
Manual schmanual... * and the numbers gives you manual station selection. To program a preset select your station, choose the preset number you want, press and HOLD. It'll switch to the original preset, don't stop holding, when it goes back to your chosen station release. Your preset is now set. -Curt Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 15:41:53 -0500 From: glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Becker Grand Prix presets '84 300D Message-ID: snt140-w22c935b7024b1351a26c34f0...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 What am I doin' wrong? As per the instructions in the owner's manual, I pushed a particular preset (e.g. F4) and cleared this preset by hitting the * button which cleared the window. I then pushed F9, F1, F9 (e.g. 91.9FM) and this particuler station is displayed, but the radio reverts to the original station which was on preset F4 prior to hitting the * button when I change to another preset and switch back to F4. TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Watch question
Update: 'Tis a Tissot Visodate Automatic, reproduction of a 1943 model. No numbers at all, waterproof to 30 meters. I'm thinking that $550 is a little high. Anyone have an opinion on Tissot watches? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Dillon Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:28 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] OT Watch question Watch Experts, I'm considering the purchase of a new watch - I need to get something with a leather band as my Seiko with metal band has begun to irritate the skin on my wrist. Yesterday I looked at a Tissot priced at $550, which is pretty steep for my budget, but a really nice watch. Black face with black leather band, automatic movement, smooth sweep second hand, date (week day and day of month). The sales lady says it is part of their vintage collection, and the style is rather 50's/60's (thus the name). Face has standard numbers - not Roman. Sapphire crystal, water proof to 100 meters. Anyone have an opinion of Tissot watches? $550 sound like a fair price? I found a similar watch but with Roman numerals on Ebay for $750, but I also saw other Tissot automatic watches for $100. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 333k miles '95 E300 277k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody find some twenny-foos to donk Wilton's ride
OK, but what about the twenny-foos? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 10:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody find some twenny-foos to donk Wilton's ride Here I am; 'been listenin' and watchin'. Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 9:51 AM Subject: [MBZ] Somebody find some twenny-foos to donk Wilton's ride Haven't heard from Wilton this holiday season - maybe his Bride finally got him some twenny-foos and he's been busy chillin and cruizin wit da boys? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 334k miles '95 E300 277k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Timing Chain Crimping Tool
I'd love to have a copy as well please! -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 11:19 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Timing Chain Crimping Tool Not sure what it will do or is intended to do. I believe I got it from this list some time back but all I have is about 4 or 5 pages of flat drawings with dimensions noted. It looks to me like there may be 2 different anvils but I did not spend much time looking at it. Most of my time was spent looking for it. Will see if I can scan it this evening and send it along tomorrow. Randy On 06/01/2011 10:11 AM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: If it works for 617 chain as well, please do! Walt On Jan 6, 2011 11:06 AM, R A Bennellb...@mts.net wrote: I actually located the plans/drawings for the crimping tool last evening in file folder at home. All needed dimensions are provided. I would love to see photos of the real thing so that I had it set in my mind. The basic frame, and handle seem simple enough. The threaded rod that one uses to tighten it is also fairly simple. The parts that have me a bit confused relate to the anvil. Quite happy to scan and send the drawings to you if you wish. Randy On 05/01/2011 6:31 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: Randy: I too have rekindled an interest in machining not done since high school! I have a Homier 7X12 lathe, a power bandsaw and a Unimat SL1000 lathe/mill. I have thought about making a Timing Chain Crimping Tool myself, and from pictures I've seen of the regulation tool it seems pretty simple. The only parts that should require hardened and tempered tool steel would be the peening tool and the anvil. The rest could be mild steel, even free-machining leaded steel. The dimensions could be guesstimated from pictures of the regulation part. The frame could be assembled and bolted together (using adequate number and size of bolts to handle the stresses) from rectangular stock to minimize milling. Drill and tap for a fairly fine thread to get some mechanical advantage. Accurately locate the anvil from the drilled hole. Make the anvil and peening tool from drill rod, then heat to orange red, quench as appropriate for the type of drill rod; then temper in a 450 degree oven for an hour. HTH Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com ] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 3:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Timing Chain Crimping Tool Thank you, Thank you (takes a bow) but I still need the plans. I may have made a copy but if so, I am not certain what I may have done with them. May be in a file at home. In any event, as I said, I have been re-kindling an interest that has been dormant since high school days. I have acquired an old Logan lathe and an inexpensive Chinese Mill and may one day get them hooked up so I can make some chips fly. Randy On 05/01/2011 5:02 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Hey! Maybe there is still hope for the world! A lawyer contemplating MAKING SOMETHING USEFUL! If that caught on, the US and Canyada might just replace KIWIs again as the most ingenious people on the planet. That would be fitting as shyster lawyers have had heavy hands in the wimpification of the Americas. Way to GO Randy! Yay for American Ingenuity! The original AI My recollection, is that once upon a time, someone on here had plans and dimensions for making the crimping tool. Anyone still got a copy of that? I have acquired an interest in machine tools and might just take a stab at making something like that. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To
Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors
Now that sounds like my kind of trailer. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 10:35 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors I have a mighty fine utility trailer made from the cargo bed of a ~'38 Ford pickup; 'put new axle, springs and wheels on it 'bout 10 years ago. When I put the new springs, etc., on it, I must have measured a dozen times before I welded. It also has 123 MB wheel covers plus a 123 trunk star on the tailgate. It pulls/trails perfectly true behind my '87 300D; 'makes for some good conversation, too - people say it's the only MB trailer they've seen - me, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors E M wrote: I won't tell you I bought a minivan a couple of years ago. *blush*. I have little use for such a thing, but I wanted to do a few renovations around the house, and figured over the next few years, it would be handy. But you're right, hard to justify hauling all the metal around most days, for the odd time I carry a few sheets of plywood or drywall home. It's hard to beat a small utility trailer for occasional hauling duty. Less than $1000 _including_ a hitch on the tow car, low tax, hitch it only when you need it, and even the little ones have 1000 lb (500 kg) load capacity making it comparable to a half-ton pickup. Oh, and the deck is lower so loading/unloading is easier. I think I just convinced myself!! I should go buy one! A companion for the big one I have already. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling
I bought the MB European wiring harness for my wagon, was a bit pricey, and it requires extra lights on the trailer. I guess in Europe and probably lots of other parts of the world the brake light and turn signal light require different filaments. I simply added a second set of lights and ran more wires to light them, but this is impractical if I want to tow someone else's trailer or someone else tow's my boat. I need to make an adapter so that I can at least have brake lights if I tow a different trailer, or maybe get some magnetic base towing lights from HF. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 10:35 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling Actually My 190D has a trailer hitch and I was thinking of using it to haul the snowmobile trailer. There are times when I want to ride after work and running to my wife's office to get the pickup is a pain in the butt. The snowmobile weighs ~600# so I'd figure around 900# total weight with the trailer, maybe round up to 1000#. The trailhead is about 3 miles away (too far to take the sled on the side of the road) so its not like its a long highway drive. The only thing standing in the way right now is that the car isn't wired for lights, does anybody know of a source for the wiring kit? Autozone was flummoxed. My Ranger came wired for them but on the Dakota I bought a little kit that plugged inline with the taillights. -Curt Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:04:58 -0500 From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling - was: H rated and governors Message-ID: aanlktimvjfb_kt1j=vhkykvwarr3ws-5kbfvdi0m3...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I friend was looking at some. I've never really looking into it to be honest. Before the mini-van, when I needed to bring something larger home from HomeDept, I just rented one of their vans by the hour. I do know, one of the questions they always ask here, when applying for insurance, is whether you are going to us your vehicle to tow anything. Trailers also need to be plated here, but I'm sure that applies most places. I'm in the city, so having a trailer, would mean I'd have to store it somewhere. I think once I get the bulk of the things finished around the house, I'll probably go back to renting for the occasional time I'll need to bring something larger home. On a bit of a side note, while we all see Mercedes pulling trailers in Europe on a regular basis, I was told here, that any towing would void the warranty. My car is wy out of warranty, but it might effect your car as it's probably still covered. Not that I'm suggesting you have any plans to turn your Benz into a trailer tug. hee hee Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody find some twenny-foos to donk Wilton's ride
LOL - you're probably right, he's doing something useful and/or enjoying holiday with family and friends. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 10:05 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody find some twenny-foos to donk Wilton's ride On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Haven't heard from Wilton this holiday season - maybe his Bride finally got him some twenny-foos and he's been busy chillin and cruizin wit da boys? I think he's lurking until he can surprise us with another feat of mechanical prowess even more astounding than his W124 evapectomy. I'd like to see Wilton and Jim C. go head-to-head on some kind of reality TV show. For $10,000, who can change out a W114 blower fan faster---blindfolded? (Jim gets handicapped by being allowed to use all the microwave metal he wants.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling
Ought to do 'er... -Curt Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 16:28:30 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling Message-ID: m14o9lpvr5@cs.indiana.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes: I had one major advantage over you, the car had integrated stop/tail lights, just like the trailer. I suppose you'd need diodes to isolate the turn signals from the stop lights so they didn't backfeed the car lights. http://www.easternmarine.com/Flat-4-Prong-Tail-Light-Converter-V5410/ -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 500SEL hydro suspension still acting up (or down)
the load at the front or rear of the car changes significantly, to add fluid to that end if necessary, and the rest of the time each set of struts and spheres becomes a closed system---in which case the pressure of which the pump is capable would be less important (it would just mean the car would respond slower to changes in cargo load). Any suggestions appreciated! Alex -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG00232-20110104-1854.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 213649 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20110106/2e5a7dd5/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG00233-20110104-1911.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 151047 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20110106/2e5a7dd5/attachment-0001.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG00234-20110104-1911.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 169770 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20110106/2e5a7dd5/attachment-0002.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1984 Mercedes-Benz 230 E (W123) RARE 5-SPEED - $1500 (Newport)
I wonder if thats the same one that was posted back when I bought Dwight's
240D...
I'd briefly considered going for it instead of the 240D.
-Curt
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 16:31:20 -0500
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1984 Mercedes-Benz 230 E (W123) RARE 5-SPEED
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Runs and drives, needs work. There is rust. Excellent MPG, power sunroof
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Re: [MBZ] OT Watch question
Good suggestion, and I've considered it, but current watch style/design does not lend itself to a leather band and I can wear this one for a few days before it becomes uncomfortable, sometimes longer. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Watch question Why don't you just buy a leather band for the one you have? Maybe like $10 and yer good ta go... Or better yet, make one from MBTex and it will last forever! --R On 1/6/2011 2:28 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Watch Experts, I'm considering the purchase of a new watch - I need to get something with a leather band as my Seiko with metal band has begun to irritate the skin on my wrist. Yesterday I looked at a Tissot priced at $550, which is pretty steep for my budget, but a really nice watch. Black face with black leather band, automatic movement, smooth sweep second hand, date (week day and day of month). The sales lady says it is part of their vintage collection, and the style is rather 50's/60's (thus the name). Face has standard numbers - not Roman. Sapphire crystal, water proof to 100 meters. Anyone have an opinion of Tissot watches? $550 sound like a fair price? I found a similar watch but with Roman numerals on Ebay for $750, but I also saw other Tissot automatic watches for $100. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 333k miles '95 E300 277k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Watch question
Thanks Mitch, I'll take a look! -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 3:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Watch question If you want an old style automatic that you won't see on anybody else's wrist, take a look at Perpetual: http://www.perpetual-watch.com/ Sea-Gull has quite a selection, and the USA distributor sells them cheaper than you'll find in China. http://usseagull.com/EnProduct.asp Orient USA (Japanese watch company, owned by Seiko now) usually has 49% off coupons. I think ST149 is the current code. http://www.orientwatchusa.com/ I'm sure there are some deals around half off list or better on Tissot. The affordables forum on watchuseek might help you find them. http://forums.watchuseek.com/f71/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Watch question
I'm looking at those as well, if I find one I like I may go that route. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rolf Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 3:38 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Watch question I've had 2 Citizen Eco Drives over the last decade. I wish they could build cars like these watches. Other than having to change the date occasionally, you set it and ferget it. I once left one in a drawer for over a week, kept perfect time. I am pretty hard on watches too. -Rolf On 01/06/2011 03:11 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: If you want an old style automatic that you won't see on anybody else's wrist, take a look at Perpetual: http://www.perpetual-watch.com/ Sea-Gull has quite a selection, and the USA distributor sells them cheaper than you'll find in China. http://usseagull.com/EnProduct.asp Orient USA (Japanese watch company, owned by Seiko now) usually has 49% off coupons. I think ST149 is the current code. http://www.orientwatchusa.com/ I'm sure there are some deals around half off list or better on Tissot. The affordables forum on watchuseek might help you find them. http://forums.watchuseek.com/f71/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap hauling
or maybe get some magnetic base towing lights from HF. -Max DON'T get the HF magnetic tow lights. The ones from uhaul are I think $30, and they stick like bear claws in a tree. Better electric cable etc. Pretty much the same as used by the tow trucks. I bought the HF lights, and they fell off before I left the HF parking lot! may as well just lay a light on top. Duct tape would hold it on better. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 500SEL hydro suspension still acting up (or down)
Sell it to a Mexican as an exotic low-rider! Don't take it to a shop, on that Top Gear with the 600Grosser his checkup repair bill was 15k pounds! --R On 1/6/2011 12:55 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: But the car, though at the same height front and back, won't rise to normal ride height overall. It's too low all the way around, by about three inches; Any suggestions appreciated! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody find some twenny-foos to donk Wilton's ride
'Don't wanta be caught near any; somebody may think I approve or like 'em. Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody find some twenny-foos to donk Wilton's ride OK, but what about the twenny-foos? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 10:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody find some twenny-foos to donk Wilton's ride Here I am; 'been listenin' and watchin'. Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 9:51 AM Subject: [MBZ] Somebody find some twenny-foos to donk Wilton's ride Haven't heard from Wilton this holiday season - maybe his Bride finally got him some twenny-foos and he's been busy chillin and cruizin wit da boys? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 334k miles '95 E300 277k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Watch question
Max Dillon wrote: Update: 'Tis a Tissot Visodate Automatic, reproduction of a 1943 model. No numbers at all, waterproof to 30 meters. I'm thinking that $550 is a little high. Anyone have an opinion on Tissot watches? IIRC, Tissot is now part of the Swatch conglomerate. You might do better posting your question on watchuseek than here. (or searching WUS for threads where somebody else asked the question) Is this the watch? It sounds like $550 is MSRP: http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/2010/3/3/announcing-the-tissot-visodate-1957-a-vintage-inspired-stunn.html http://forums.watchuseek.com/f62/tissot-pros-cons-36490.html?highlight=bargain http://forums.watchuseek.com/f62/what-your-attraction-tissot-50524.html?highlight=bargain I hadn't noticed before, but WUS has a Tissot forum: http://forums.watchuseek.com/f62/ http://forums.watchuseek.com/f67/tissot-visodate-1957-heritage-collection-automatic-review-459020-post3390538.html#post3390538 http://forums.watchuseek.com/f71/brown-leather-strap-watch-486145-post3567433.html?highlight=tissot+1957#post3567433 BTW, check out these lovelies at OrientUSA, and imaging getting them for 49% off with free shipping: http://www.orientwatchusa.com/cex0p002d-p-234.html http://www.orientwatchusa.com/cev09002b-orient-classic-p-83.html http://www.orientwatchusa.com/cev09002w-orient-classic-p-391.html http://www.orientwatchusa.com/sdt2w-p-434.html I could have sworn the Multi Eyes came on leather, but not anymore. You could always buy a strap for it: http://www.orientwatchusa.com/cet05001w-orient-p-52.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Watch question
If the watch irritates your skin, you are gettin to be a geezer, so buy a pocket watch. Or.. who needs a watch, I have a cell phone Watch Experts, I'm considering the purchase of a new watch - I need to get something with a leather band as my Seiko with metal band has begun to irritate the skin on my wrist. Yesterday I looked at a Tissot priced at $550, which is pretty steep for my budget, but a really nice watch. Black face with black leather band, automatic movement, smooth sweep second hand, date (week day and day of month). The sales lady says it is part of their vintage collection, and the style is rather 50's/60's (thus the name). Face has standard numbers - not Roman. Sapphire crystal, water proof to 100 meters. Anyone have an opinion of Tissot watches? $550 sound like a fair price? I found a similar watch but with Roman numerals on Ebay for $750, but I also saw other Tissot automatic watches for $100. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 333k miles '95 E300 277k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Watch question
Mitch wrote: I'm sure there are some deals around half off list or better on Tissot. The affordables forum on watchuseek might help you find them. http://forums.watchuseek.com/f71/ Where do you hang at watchuseek? I read several of their forums each week - enjoyable stuff. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Watch question
Mountain Man wrote: Mitch wrote: I'm sure there are some deals around half off list or better on Tissot. The affordables forum on watchuseek might help you find them. http://forums.watchuseek.com/f71/ Where do you hang at watchuseek? I read several of their forums each week - enjoyable stuff. I used to hang out in Affordables, Seiko/Citizen/Orient, and sometimes Chinese. Hadn't been there in a while, I was spending too much money in 2009 on stuff I saw there. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Watch question
Max wrote: Anyone have an opinion on Tissot watches? Tissot is a great vintage name as far as I know. I have a Mathey Tissot Type 12 aircraft clock sitting in front of me. I like old style mechanical watches - the kind you need to wind every day, not the automatic mechanical watches - I can waste 30 seconds each day winding a watch, it is not that difficult. As someone mentioned, most brand names of the past are all under the umbrella of Swatch - which is not a bad thing, but... one large company, all the same product, different names. I find that type of stuff so... oh, well. So, if I was looking for a watch, me personally, I would hunt for a vintage watch of Tissot name - something that can be repaired, but has good design and function. I have a few watches and only one has a battery in it - I just am not impressed with electricity... yet. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Watch question
Mitch wrote: Hadn't been there in a while, I was spending too much money in 2009 on stuff I saw there. Hey, if ya got money - spend it or someone else will spend it for you. Save it and you let the bank have it to spend/waste, viz the idiocy crisis of the past 3 years in Wall Street and DC. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] home schooling
Dan wrote: It typically depends on the state. Most have specific requirements for home schooling. That too. But the driving force that is behind education is motivation and desire for success - which is eliminated in a public system on behalf of a teacher, an administration, etc. They are all in it for the money and that is the end of any desire for success - oh, yeah, no child left behind - that solved a lot of motivation, it encouraged innovative ways to cheat the system. Parents all have desire for good for their kids, therefore homeschool is a logical fit. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] schooling
OK Don wrote: The stupid stuff that happens in the schools is driven by the school boards, who are elected by the parents - Don't forget money. Money buys a lot, but money can't buy me love. In the meantime, it can buy me a contract at the local school board doing some business, etc - all payola. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
