local network mail help needed

[Denny White]

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I'd like to be able to use just mail instead of the system
MUA for one user who doesn't have an email account setup with
the ISP, but who just wants to be able send email messages
to other users on the network. So far, the messages keep getting
MDeferred: Connection refused by . I added the network
name, and later, when that didn't work, the IP address also, to
/etc/mail/access, along with OK for local but not relay, rebuilt
database by makemap hash /etc/mail/access  /etc/mail/access,
but the mail messages are still refused. I can ssh/scp between
all the computers on the network. Also no problems with NFS. Use
it regularly from an XP box and and the other BSD computers on
the network. I had just started running pf on the box that's
refusing the messages, but disabled it and restarted, but it
didn't help. I don't know if it's pertinent to the problem,
but I'm running current, now on the 4th system build. Didn't
put dmesg in this message for sake of brevity, and because there
was nothing abnormal in it after the last cvsup and build. But,
if it's needed, please advise, and I'll do it. According to
/usr/ports/infrastructure/build/out-of-date, all ports are up
to date, too. Thanks for any help on this.
Denny White

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Re: Windows OpenBSD

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Today Gustavo Rios contributed the following:


Dear folks!

I am in need for integrating a set of windows dektops with some
openbsd servers. I have two openbsd boxes: one acting like an NFS
server and another with NIS + Kerberos.

The OpenBSD workstations are already working with authentication being
provided by NIS+Kerberos and storage centrally managed by a NFS
storage server.

The problem comes when i think on about 50 desktops running Windows XP/2003.

I would like those windows boxes to grab the users/groups information
directly from my nis/krb server, as also performs SSO based on the
user principal stored on that same nis/krb server.

Another important aspect is about NFS. The home directories needs to
be made shared accros windows boxes.

I am not considering using SAMBA. But i do consider adding an extra
layer for authentication (since it will be added for email/proxy
auth): openldap server.

The problem is how to integrate OpenLDAP/NIS/KRB/NFS with those WIN boxes.

Services For Unix (by MS) provides a consistent support for NFS
client, i believe! Could i use it? Is there anything i should be aware
about, before trying it?

Now another problem: How to make windows authentication directly by
means of NIS/KRB or even from OpenLDAP? I was searching the web and
found about GINA (Graphical Identification aNd Authorization): It
the windows login interface, it can be replaced. I searched some in
the town ad found:

http://wwwthep.physik.uni-mainz.de/~frink/newgina_pre09/readme.html
http://www.arch.usyd.edu.au/~doug/gina.html
http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/14433/14433.html

I would really LOVE to see what you have to write on such matters.

Thanks A LOT for your time and cooperation.

best regards



Services for Unix (by MS) works fine for me here on Windows XP,
both with OpenBSD and FreeBSD. Little slow sometimes, but for the
last 8 months, has been reliable. I've had no problems.
Hope this helps some.
Denny White

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Re: local network mail help needed

[Denny White]

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Today Greg Thomas contributed the following:


On 11/1/05, Denny White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


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I'd like to be able to use just mail instead of the system
MUA for one user who doesn't have an email account setup with
the ISP, but who just wants to be able send email messages
to other users on the network. So far, the messages keep getting
MDeferred: Connection refused by . I added the network
name, and later, when that didn't work, the IP address also, to
/etc/mail/access, along with OK for local but not relay, rebuilt
database by makemap hash /etc/mail/access  /etc/mail/access,
but the mail messages are still refused. I can ssh/scp between
all the computers on the network. Also no problems with NFS. Use
it regularly from an XP box and and the other BSD computers on
the network. I had just started running pf on the box that's
refusing the messages, but disabled it and restarted, but it
didn't help. I don't know if it's pertinent to the problem,
but I'm running current, now on the 4th system build. Didn't
put dmesg in this message for sake of brevity, and because there
was nothing abnormal in it after the last cvsup and build. But,
if it's needed, please advise, and I'll do it. According to
/usr/ports/infrastructure/build/out-of-date, all ports are up
to date, too. Thanks for any help on this.
Denny White


Perhaps the sendmail section of the afterboot manpage is relevant? You're
lacking quite a bit of info so we can only guess. Are the other users
running OpenBSD? Sendmail? Default OpenBSD Sendmail config?
Greg



Okay, thanks for the advice. I've already checked the README and
must've missed the default accept policy part. Checked the other
reference and saw it immediately. I'll try to figure out how to
do it. I've fooled around with sendmail on a FreeBSD box when I
was installing a virus program for checking email. It is, in fact,
the box that's trying to send the messages to this one, which is
running OpenBSD current with the sendmail default install. Thanks
for the pointers. Putting dmesg below in case needed. And the
FreeBSD box is still using default sendmail install too.
Denny White

OpenBSD 3.8-current (GENERIC) #4: Mon Oct 31 01:54:48 CST 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class) 601 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
real mem  = 267952128 (261672K)
avail mem = 237645824 (232076K)
using 3296 buffers containing 13500416 bytes (13184K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(a7) BIOS, date 01/31/02, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfb4f0
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
apm0: flags 70102 dobusy 1 doidle 1
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0xb970
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdd90/144 (7 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 5 9 10 11
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:07:0 (VIA VT82C596A ISA rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 VIA VT82C691 PCI rev 0xc4
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 VIA VT82C598 AGP rev 0x00
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
pcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 VIA VT82C686 ISA rev 0x22
pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 VIA VT82C571 IDE rev 0x10: ATA66, channel 0 
configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: WDC WD300BB-00AUA1
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 28629MB, 58633344 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: HP, CD-Writer+ 9500b, 1.06 SCSI0 5/cdrom 
removable
atapiscsi1 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 1
scsibus1 at atapiscsi1: 2 targets
cd1 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: ASUS, CD-S500/A, 1.0K SCSI0 5/cdrom removable
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2
cd1(pciide0:1:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
uhci0 at pci0 dev 7 function 2 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x10: irq 9
usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1 at pci0 dev 7 function 3 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x10: irq 9
usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
viaenv0 at pci0 dev 7 function 4 VIA VT82C686 SMBus rev 0x30
auvia0 at pci0 dev 7 function 5 VIA VT82C686 AC97 rev 0x20: irq 5
ac97: codec id 0x83847644 (SigmaTel STAC9744/45)
ac97: codec features 18 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, SigmaTel 3D
audio0 at auvia0
fxp0 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 Intel 82557 rev 0x08, i82559: irq 11, address 
00:d0:b7:ba:15:09
inphy0 at fxp0 phy 1: i82555 10/100 PHY, rev. 4
vga1 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 3DFX Interactive Voodoo3 rev 0x01
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console

ports out-of-date question

[Denny White]

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Just trying to find out if the output from running
./out-of-date for installed packages is because I've
cvsup'd current and rebuilt everything numerous times
which, I'm pretty sure I read, is unsupported. Only
fresh installs of current snapshot supported, I believe.
Anyways, here's the output when I run ./out-of-date:
- --
archivers/bzip2 # c.38.2 - c.38.3
archivers/gtar  # c.38.2,gettext-0.10.40p3,intl.2.0 -
  c.38.3,gettext-0.14.5,intl.3.0
archivers/unzip # c.38.2 - c.38.3
archivers/zip   # c.38.2 - c.38.3
audio/esound# c.38.2 - c.38.3
converters/libiconv # c.38.2 - c.38.3
devel/atk   # gettext-0.10.40p3,intl.2.0 -
  gettext-0.14.5,intl.3.0
devel/gettext   # 0.10.40p3 - 0.14.5
devel/glib2 # c.38.2,gettext-0.10.40p3,intl.2.0 -
  c.38.3,gettext-0.14.5,intl.3.0
devel/gmake # c.38.2,gettext-0.10.40p3,intl.2.0 -
  c.38.3,gettext-0.14.5,intl.3.0
devel/libaudiofile  # c.38.2 - c.38.3
devel/libtool,-ltd  # 1.5.20 - 1.5.20p1
devel/pango # c.38.2,intl.2.0 - c.38.3,intl.3.0
emulators/redhat/motif  # 2.1.30p1 - 2.1.30p2
graphics/flash  # c.38.2 - c.38.3
graphics/imlib2 # c.38.2,libltdl-1.5.20 - c.38.3,libltdl-1.5.20p1
graphics/jpeg   # c.38.2 - c.38.3
graphics/libungif   # c.38.2 - c.38.3
graphics/tiff   # c.38.2 - c.38.3
lang/ezm3   # c.38.2 - c.38.3
lang/tcl/8.4# c.38.2 - c.38.3
mail/fetchmail  # 6.2.5.2p0 - 6.2.5.2p1
mail/pine   # c.38.2 - c.38.3
net/cvsup,no_x11# c.38.2 - c.38.3
net/libdnet # c.38.2 - c.38.3
net/quirc   # c.38.2 - c.38.3
security/gnupg  # 1.4.1p0 - 1.4.1p1
security/gpgm# gettext-0.10.40p3,gnupg-1.4.1p0,intl.2.0,pthread.6.1 -
   gettext-0.14.5,gnupg-1.4.1p1,intl.3.0,pthread.6.2
security/libgpg-error  # c.38.2,gettext-0.10.40p3,intl.2.0 -
 c.38.3,gettext-0.14.5,intl.3.0
security/scanssh   # c.38.2 - c.38.3
textproc/gdiff # c.38.2,gettext-0.10.40p3,intl.2.0 -
 c.38.3,gettext-0.14.5,intl.3.0
www/mozilla-firefox# 1.0.7p2 - 1.0.7p3
x11/fluxbox # c.38.2 - c.38.3
x11/gtk+2   # c.38.2,gettext-0.10.40p3,intl.2.0 -
  c.38.3,gettext-0.14.5,intl.3.0
x11/openmotif   # c.38.2 - c.38.3
x11/tk/8.4  # c.38.2 - c.38.3
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Not asking for any kind of fix or help on this, just to
understand the why of it, like I stated above. Aware that
what I did is unsupported. Finally getting insurance money
back after hurricane Katrina  first thing on agenda is to
buy the new 3.8 cd's. :-) Previously, just experimenting 
trying to get to know the system. Have used mostly FreeBSD
with portupgrade, portsnap,  so forth. Thanks for any info.
Denny White


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A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: mutt, getmail procmail]

[Denny White]

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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:26:52 -0500
From: Denny White [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Philip Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: mutt, getmail  procmail
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On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 02:44:48PM -0600, Philip Guenther wrote:
 On 7/13/07, Denny White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...
 PATH=$HOME/bin:$HOME:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:.
 That line is probably unnecessary.  Unless you can point to a specific
 program that your .procmailrc uses that is not in the default PATH set
 by procmail, why change it?
 
 
 FORMAIL=/usr/local/bin/formail
 Why do people think that hardcoding the paths to normal programs is a
 good thing?  Why not just say formail and let the shell do the work?
 
 
 SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail
 
 Remove that line: procmail sets that for you.  ($SENDMAIL is a
 historical wart that exists only because sendmail was originally
 installed into a directory (/usr/lib) that wasn't in anyone's path.)
 
 
 LOCKFILE=$HOME/.lockmail
 
 Ugh.  Do you know what that LOCKFILE assignment does?  Unless you have
 a specific need for it (and I don't see anything in your .procmailrc
 that does), you should remove it.  If you don't know what it does,
 then go read the procmailrc(5) manpage and then remove that line.
 
 
 # Anything that has not been delivered by now will go to $DEFAULT
 # using LOCKFILE=$DEFAULT$LOCKEXT
 
 That comment is not correct for at least two reasons:
 1) the locking of $DEFAULT$LOCKEXT is only done if $DEFAULT names
an actual file and not a directory, and
 2) it doesn't (re)use LOCKFILE: you can hold both global lock and a local 
 lock
 
 When I take procmail out of .getmailrc  just download everything
 to my inbox, there's no problem. The problem starts every time I
 try to use procmail. Below is typical output of a getmail session:
 
 2007-07-13 14:23:31 Delivery error (command procmail 17884 error
 (0, procmail: [17884] Fri Jul 13 14:23:31 2007
 procmail: Assigning MAILDIR=/home/dennyboy/Mail
 procmail: Assigning DEFAULT=/home/dennyboy/Mail/inbox
 procmail: Assigning PMDIR=/home/dennyboy/.procmail
 procmail: Assigning LOGFILE=/home/dennyboy/.procmail/.procmail-log
 procmail: Opening /home/dennyboy/.procmail/.procmail-log))
 2007-07-13 14:23:31 msg 13/13 (2274 bytes) msgid UID54784-1149445332 from 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ...
 
 It looks like the complaint from getmail is that procmail is writing
 stuff to its stderr.  That's occurring because you set VERBOSE to on
 before you set LOGFILE.  Either remove the assignment to VERBOSE or
 move it to after the LOGFILE assignment (or move the LOGFILE
 assignment to before the VERBOSE assignement, of course).
 
 
 Philip Guenther

Philip,
Thank you. Followed your advice. Pertinent section below. It works.
No more error messages, messages get filtered properly, life is good.
I had set it the previous way that made the errors I guess out of
misunderstanding the documentation and samples I had found. Anyways,
thanks again, very much appreciated.

Denny White

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VERBOSE=off
PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail
LOGFILE=$PMDIR/.procmail-log
MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail  # You'd better make sure it exists
DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/inbox
COMSAT=no
PER=([EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED])
FBSDALL=([EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED])
OBSDALL=([EMAIL PROTECTED])

:0
*$ ^From:.*$PER
per/

:0
*$ ^From:.*$FBSDALL
fbsd/

:0
*$ ^From:.*$OBSDALL
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Nut Belkin UPS Problem

[Denny White]

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I have an old Belkin F6C525-SER ups attached to serial port 1.
When /usr/local/bin/upsdrvctl start runs, it finds  identifies
the ups correctly. Also, no problem when /usr/local/sbin/upsd
runs. But, when /usr/local/sbin/upsmon runs, I get:

Broadcast Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
((not a tty)) at whatever time run . . .

communications lost to the UPS

Repeat 1st line (Broadcast etc)

A UPS is unavailable (can't be contacted for monitoring)



Below are all the pertinent uncommented settings in nuts config
files.


(snippet from /etc/nut/ups.conf)

I've tried entering different labels here, including the actual
identification of the ups, F6C525-SER along with anywhere else
it's required to match. Didn't help. I assumed this was an
arbitrary setting  only mattered in that it has to match in
any other config files it's used in.

  [belkinups]
driver = belkin
port = /dev/tty00
desc = bubbhasbox

(snippet from /etc/nut/upsd.conf)

ACL all 0.0.0.0/0
ACL localhost 127.0.0.1

ACCEPT localhost
REJECT all

# ==
MAXAGE 15



(snippet from /etc/nut/upsd.users)

[dennyboy]
password  =  
allowfrom = localhost 
actions = SET
instcmds = ALL
upsmon master
#
# The matching MONITOR line in your upsmon.conf would look like this:
#
# MONITOR [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 monuser pass master   (or slave)



(snippet from /etc/nut/upsmon.conf)

RUN_AS_USER nutmon  # This user added as per docs

MONITOR [EMAIL PROTECTED]:5678 1 dennyboy  master

I've also tried this without a port after localhost. No difference.
Still doesn't work. I may have misunderstood the docs, but there
were instructions without a port being appended also.

# --

MINSUPPLIES 1

# --

SHUTDOWNCMD /sbin/shutdown -h -p +0

# --

NOTIFYCMD /usr/local/bin/notifyme.sh

# --

POLLFREQ 10

# --

POLLFREQALERT 10

# --

HOSTSYNC 15

# --

DEADTIME 30

# --

POWERDOWNFLAG /etc/killpower
# Pertinent script added to /etc/rc.shutdown as per docs
# --

NOTE: I changed each instance of %s to belkinups just like the
label in ups.conf

#
NOTIFYMSG NOCOMM A UPS is unavailable (can't be contacted for monitoring)
NOTIFYMSG COMMOK Communications established with UPS
NOTIFYMSG COMMBAD Communications lost to the UPS
NOTIFYMSG ONLINE UPS belkinups is getting line power
NOTIFYMSG ONBATT Someone pulled the plug on belkinups
NOTIFYMSG LOWBATT UPS belkinups has a low battery
NOTIFYMSG FSD UPS is being shutdown by the master
#
# Note that %s is replaced with the identifier of the UPS in question.

# --

RBWARNTIME 43200

# --

NOCOMMWARNTIME 300

# --

FINALDELAY 5


Just wanted to say that I've read the docs  man pages numerous times
 searched extensively through mailing list archives,  experimented
with the settings until I ran out of ideas, before asking about this
on the list. It's either something I'm missing, misunderstanding, or
possibly a peculiarity with my hardware. Any help greatly appreciated.

Denny White

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Re: Nut Belkin UPS Problem

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On Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 11:06:44PM -0500, Denny White spake forth:
 I have an old Belkin F6C525-SER ups attached to serial port 1.
 When /usr/local/bin/upsdrvctl start runs, it finds  identifies
 the ups correctly. Also, no problem when /usr/local/sbin/upsd
 runs. But, when /usr/local/sbin/upsmon runs, I get:
 
 Broadcast Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ((not a tty)) at whatever time run . . .
 
 communications lost to the UPS
 
 Repeat 1st line (Broadcast etc)
 
 A UPS is unavailable (can't be contacted for monitoring)
 
 
 
 Below are all the pertinent uncommented settings in nuts config
 files.
 
 
 (snippet from /etc/nut/ups.conf)
 
 I've tried entering different labels here, including the actual
 identification of the ups, F6C525-SER along with anywhere else
 it's required to match. Didn't help. I assumed this was an
 arbitrary setting  only mattered in that it has to match in
 any other config files it's used in.
 
   [belkinups]
   driver = belkin
   port = /dev/tty00
   desc = bubbhasbox
 
 (snippet from /etc/nut/upsd.conf)
 
 ACL all 0.0.0.0/0
 ACL localhost 127.0.0.1
 
 ACCEPT localhost
 REJECT all
 
 # ==
 MAXAGE 15
 
 
 
 (snippet from /etc/nut/upsd.users)
 
   [dennyboy]
   password  =  
   allowfrom = localhost 
   actions = SET
   instcmds = ALL
   upsmon master
 #
 # The matching MONITOR line in your upsmon.conf would look like this:
 #
 # MONITOR [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 monuser pass master (or slave)
 
 
 
 (snippet from /etc/nut/upsmon.conf)
 
 RUN_AS_USER nutmon# This user added as per docs
 
 MONITOR [EMAIL PROTECTED]:5678 1 dennyboy  master
 
 I've also tried this without a port after localhost. No difference.
 Still doesn't work. I may have misunderstood the docs, but there
 were instructions without a port being appended also.
 
 # --
 
 MINSUPPLIES 1
 
 # --
 
 SHUTDOWNCMD /sbin/shutdown -h -p +0
 
 # --
 
 NOTIFYCMD /usr/local/bin/notifyme.sh
 
 # --
 
 POLLFREQ 10
 
 # --
 
 POLLFREQALERT 10
 
 # --
 
 HOSTSYNC 15
 
 # --
 
 DEADTIME 30
 
 # --
 
 POWERDOWNFLAG /etc/killpower
 # Pertinent script added to /etc/rc.shutdown as per docs
 # --
 
 NOTE: I changed each instance of %s to belkinups just like the
 label in ups.conf
 
 #
 NOTIFYMSG NOCOMM A UPS is unavailable (can't be contacted for monitoring)
 NOTIFYMSG COMMOK Communications established with UPS
 NOTIFYMSG COMMBAD Communications lost to the UPS
 NOTIFYMSG ONLINE UPS belkinups is getting line power
 NOTIFYMSG ONBATT Someone pulled the plug on belkinups
 NOTIFYMSG LOWBATT UPS belkinups has a low battery
 NOTIFYMSG FSD UPS is being shutdown by the master
 #
 # Note that %s is replaced with the identifier of the UPS in question.
 
 # --
 
 RBWARNTIME 43200
 
 # --
 
 NOCOMMWARNTIME 300
 
 # --
 
 FINALDELAY 5
 
 
 Just wanted to say that I've read the docs  man pages numerous times
  searched extensively through mailing list archives,  experimented
 with the settings until I ran out of ideas, before asking about this
 on the list. It's either something I'm missing, misunderstanding, or
 possibly a peculiarity with my hardware. Any help greatly appreciated.
 
 Denny White
 

Never got an answer on this problem, but I resolved it  it's working
fine now. Apparently I didn't read enough, at least in the right place.
For the sake of anyone who runs into the same problem, got what I
needed at:

http://www.networkupstools.org/doc/2.0.1/INSTALL.html

Denny White

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streamdvd question

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When I'm using streamdvd with dvdauthor on a small video dvd or one
that can be safely shrunk, I don't have any problems. But, when I try
to split a large one by selecting certain sequential chapters, I run
into problems. Last night I ripped the 1st 15 chapters of a video dvd
no problem. Audio was fine, etc. I also ripped the entire dvd with
dvdbackup, so I don't think there's anything wrong with the dvd itself.
Later I tried to rip the 2nd half, same as before, with dvdauthor 
streamdvd, chapters 16-29  that's when the trouble started. I used
script  a high debug level to try to capture as much info as possible.
It's directly below here. Also, some errors from /var/log/messages to
show what was going on underneath.
Outside of this splitting a dvd problem, the only other problem I
had was with streamanalyze seg faulting now  then, but that probably
had to do with my typing in the wrong parameters. Don't know at this
point. Most of the time, it works okay along with lsdvd.
I read everything I could find before asking this question  googled
around quite a bit. Not a complaint, but some of the documentation
is scant on such things as streamdvd. I also tried contacting the
port maintainer before asking, but I imagine he's busy enough already.
Also tried another method for ripping from:

http://www.ericdugas.com/howtos/ripDVDWithMplayer/ripDVDWithMplayer.php

but ran into problems with mp2enc on that one. Thanks for any help I
can get on this. And, if anyone knows of a simpler workable way to
split a large dvd, please let me know.

Denny white

NOTE: Where there is a \ at the ends, I added to avoid exceeding
the 72 character limitation on the list.

Script started on Sun Aug  5 17:39:26 2007
# dvdauthor -t -o dvd1 -f 'ss treamdvd -i /dev/rcd0c -t 1 -c 16-29 \
-s 0xe0,0x80,/dev/rcd0c -t 1 -c 16-29 -s 0xe0,0x80, 
   0x20 -d 4 |'
DVDAuthor::dvdauthor, version 0.6.11.
Build options: gnugetopt magick iconv freetype fribidi
Send bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

INFO: dvdauthor creating VTS
STAT: Picking VTS 01

STAT: Processing streamdvd -i /dev/rcd0c -t 1 -c 16-29 \
-s 0xe0,0x80,0x20 -d 4 |...
Selected streams: 0xe0 0x80 0x20 
Processing title 1, chapter 16 (1991761) - chapter 29 (3860297)
AV Delay: 185 ms
   INFO: [???] mplex version 1.6.1.93 (2.2.3 $Date: 2004/01/13 \
   20:45:26 $)
Debug 2: Buffer read: 65536
Debug 2: DVD read
Debug 3: DVD read stopped at next seq hdr
Debug 2: Buffer return: 65536
Debug 2: Buffer read: 65536
Debug 2: Buffer return: 65536
Debug 2: Buffer read: 65536
Debug 2: DVD read
Debug 3: DVD read stopped at next seq hdr
Debug 2: DVD read
Debug 3: DVD read stopped at next seq hdr
Debug 2: DVD read
Debug 3: DVD read stopped at next seq hdr
Debug 2: DVD read
Debug 3: DVD read stopped at next seq hdr
Debug 2: DVD read
Debug 3: DVD read stopped at next seq hdr
Debug 2: Buffer return: 65536
   INFO: [???] File unnamed-0xe0.m2v looks like an MPEG Video stream.
**ERROR: [???] File unnamed-0x80.ac3 unrecogniseable!
**ERROR: [???] File unnamed-0x20 unrecogniseable!
**ERROR: [???] Unrecogniseable file(s)... exiting.

ERR:  Error reading from pipe: No such file or directory
# ^D

Script done on Sun Aug  5 17:56:45 2007
--

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the 72 character limitation on the list same as above.
--
Tail from /var/log/messages
I shortened this a lot because of the repetitive error message:

Aug  5 18:54:03 bubbhasbox /bsd: SENSE KEY: Illegal Request
Aug  5 18:54:03 bubbhasbox /bsd:  ASC/ASCQ: Logical Block Address \
 Out of Range
Aug  5 18:54:03 bubbhasbox /bsd: cd0(atapiscsi0:0:0): Check Condition \
(error 0x70) on opcode 0x28
Aug  5 18:54:03 bubbhasbox /bsd: SENSE KEY: Illegal Request
Aug  5 18:54:03 bubbhasbox /bsd:  ASC/ASCQ: Logical Block Address \
Out of Range
Aug  5 18:54:03 bubbhasbox /bsd: cd0(atapiscsi0:0:0): Check Condition \
(error 0x70) on opcode 0x28
Aug  5 18:54:03 bubbhasbox /bsd: SENSE KEY: Illegal Request
Aug  5 18:54:03 bubbhasbox /bsd:  ASC/ASCQ: Logical Block Address \
Out of Range
Aug  5 18:54:03 bubbhasbox /bsd: cd0(atapiscsi0:0:0): Check Condition \
(error 0x70) on opcode 0x28

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Re: streamdvd question

[Denny White]

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On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 12:33:11AM +, Jacob Meuser wrote:

 chapters are not necessarily consecutive, they could bounce around.
 and AFAIK, many programs have problems with this.
 
 some say this is intentional design by the DVD distributor, to make
 it harder to rip.
 
That's kind of what I figured  what my friend said, too.
  
 
 mp2enc is, as the authors say, only included for completeness.  use
 toolame instead.
 
 or use ffmpeg for this whole operation.
 
Okay, I'll give them each a shot. And thanks for taking time
to answer.
 
Denny White
 
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Re: Qemu networking help

[Denny White]

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On Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 10:31:40PM -0700, Allie Daneman spake forth:
 So I recently installed Qemu w/XP on my 4.1 box and am having a
 bear of a time getting pf and the networking going. I've tried the
 undeadly howto and another on the Qemu forum to no avail. Can anyone
 share their qemu ifup script, how they run it, and the important
 parts of their pf.conf to get it running ? Thnx in advance...

You didn't give any specific links  I don't have time to search on
undeadly or qemu, so I don't know if this link has the same stuff
you've already read or not. Anyway, it's at

http://neworder.box.sk/news/16699
 
Stuff there on bridges, tap devices,  pf along with some extra links
on each one. Looks fairly in depth. Check it out.

Denny White

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Re: Another qemu + OpenBSD host + networking + pf

[Denny White]

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On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 08:30:19PM -0700, Allie Daneman spake forth:
 Ok...first off I apologize for wasting bandwidth this morning looking for 
 help...blame it on Sunday morning laziness. After googling and trying things 
 I got my qemu working w/XP finally. The undeadly article is great but isn't 
 as complete as it could be. Hopefully this will fill in the cracks for any of 
 you out there that want to get qemu going ASAP to start using virtualization 
 on OBSD ;) Here it is cut and dry:
 
 ### Install ###
 1) qemu-img create -f qcow xp.hd 4G  Create image
 * make sure xp.hd is writable by the owner running qemu (otherwise you 
 can't partition the drive in Windows Install) **
 2) qemu -m 384 -cdrom XP.iso -boot d -monitor stdio xp.hd  Boot iso image 
 as if it was on a cdrom
 
 ### Setup networking ###
 3) Update /etc/sysctl to enable forwarding:
 net.inet.ip.forwarding=1
 
 4) Create /etc/hostname.tun0 with the following:
 link0 up
 inet 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0
 
 5) Create /etc/pf.conf with this or something similar:
 internal = tun0
 external = ipw0
 
 set loginterface $external
 scrub in all
 
 nat on $external from $internal:network to any - ipw0
 
 pass quick on lo0 all flags any
 pass in quick on $internal proto icmp all keep state
 pass in quick on $internal from $internal:network to any keep state
 pass out quick on $internal from any to $internal:network keep state
 
 pass out quick on $external proto tcp all modulate state
 pass out quick on $external proto { udp, icmp } all keep state
 
 block quick all
 ### starting Qemu ###
 6) sudo qemu -m 384 -monitor stdio -net nic -net tap xp.hd
 
 That's it !!! No qemu-ifup script needed. Obviously you assign XP (or 
 whatever OS you install) an IP in the 192.168.0.0/24 network and you're 
 golden. This is a virtual network...so changing it is as easy as changing 
 your hostname.tun0, pf.conf, and the IP in the OS you're running as a 
 virtual. My only dilemma is that I run dhcp on two external interfaces and I 
 don't want to change DNS servers on my virtual every time I move. I think I'm 
 going to work on running dhcpd on tun0 and script a DNS IP harvester for 
 dhcpd to assign the same DNS servers as the host. There's always more to do 
 ;) Enjoy...

Thanks for all of that. It'll make it a lot easier for a pf dummy
like myself. Sorry for the link before. Didn't know it was the same
info as undeadly. Just a link, that is, to where I sent you. We know
where road where good intentions lead. ;)

Denny White

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Re: scanner??

[Denny White]

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On Monday 10 September 2007 12:08:48 Vim Visual wrote:
  ... and I wonder whether any of you has a recommendation for me.
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 12:14:30PM +0200, Antoine Jacoutot spake wrote:
 Epson are usually very well supported.
 See: http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl
 
 -- 
 Antoine

I can vouch for the Epsons. I picked up an old Epson Perfection 1200U
off eBay  it works great with both xsane  the sane front  backends
on my old PIII 800 home-built running OpenBSD 4.0, and on my Dell
Dimension 2400 running 4.1, thanks to Antoine's work on the ports.
Sorry Antoine, shameless plug for you. ;)

Denny White

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cups printing question

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I'm getting garbled printouts when I try to print to my xp network
shared printer, an HP DeskJet 722C, from my OpenBSD 4.1 box. A good
for instance is the OpenBSD home page. Graphics printed great, but
about 3/4 of the left side of the page was lopped off, and the
sentences on the right were in some places garbled or the top half
of the letters lopped off.

I've got the following installed:

1) enscript
2) ghostscript  ghostscript fonts
3) cups
4) pna2ppa - d/l from http://sourceforge.net/projects/pnm2ppa/
   (It built  installed on the system without any problems)
5) HP-DeskJet_722C-pnm2ppa.ppd d/l from linuxprinting
6) samba (probably didn't need it but it's quicker from the
   xp box than nfs for when I'm lazy  don't want to use scp)
7) cupsd, smbd,  nmbd load fine on boot from /etc/rc.local

I tried changing firefox's page layout margins to match what the
cups printing defaults were in the print dialog. But, when you're
configuring the printer from the browser interface, the margins
you're offered don't seem to correspond. I.E., first instance is
0 and then goes to 10 and i don't understand what the increments
are. mm? I also checked /etc/pnm2ppa.conf and commented everything
out except for the 720 part which covers that whole series of
printers.I've got the device url set to lpd://xpbox/HPDeskJet and
I know that's right because at least it's trying to print now.
I printed a couple of text only pages from the rfc's main site
perfectly. I don't know if it's having trouble with page tables or
what. Any help much appreciated. Any other info I didn't supply
but possibly need to, please let me know.

Denny White

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Re: ports out-of-date question

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Today Andy Wingate contributed the following:

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Denny White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[More ports@ than [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Just trying to find out if the output from running
./out-of-date for installed packages is because I've
cvsup'd current and rebuilt everything numerous times
which, I'm pretty sure I read, is unsupported.


You are recommended to use binary snapshots and packages where
possible (particularly if you use CVSup which is a pain to build).
See URL:http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#WhySrc and
URL:http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html


Only fresh installs of current snapshot supported, I believe.
Anyways, here's the output when I run ./out-of-date:
--
archivers/bzip2 # c.38.2 - c.38.3


Your installed packages were linked against 38.2 of libc while you now
have 38.3. They were also linked against an older pthread (6.1) than
the one you currently have (6.2). Your installed packages are out of
sync with your userland.

If you use binary packages, this is still likely to happen as userland
snapshots appear much more often than packages (since building a
complete set of packages will take that much longer). However, if you
have set up a suitable PKG_PATH, 'pkg_add -u' can help you keep up to
do with your installed packages.

[snip]


devel/gettext   # 0.10.40p3 - 0.14.5


Your installed gettext is out of date compared to the ports tree which
will also show up in packages which depend on it. Similar for libtool,
redhat-motif, gnupg.


Not asking for any kind of fix or help on this, just to
understand the why of it, like I stated above. Aware that
what I did is unsupported. Finally getting insurance money
back after hurricane Katrina  first thing on agenda is to
buy the new 3.8 cd's. :-) Previously, just experimenting 
trying to get to know the system. Have used mostly FreeBSD
with portupgrade, portsnap,  so forth. Thanks for any info.


Definitely buy the CDs but be aware that your -current system is ahead
of 3.8 (as on the CDs). Downgrading without completely reinstalling
from scratch is not supported (again see FAQ 5)
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Okay Andy, I appreciate the info. If you have time, can you
answer one more question? Could I alleviate this discrepancy
by pkg_delete all installed packages and also deleting all
of /usr/ports/distfiles, and then reinstall packages? And yes,
I plan on a fresh install when I get the cd's. All important
stuff backed up on regular basis. Thanks.
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./out-of-date question

[Denny White]

, using wsdisplay0
pmsi0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot
wsmouse0 at pmsi0 mux 0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker
spkr0 at pcppi0
sysbeep0 at pcppi0
lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16
pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
pccom1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2
fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec
biomask e745 netmask ef45 ttymask ffc7
pctr: 686-class user-level performance counters enabled
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support
dkcsum: wd0 matches BIOS drive 0x80
wd1: no disk label
dkcsum: wd1 matches BIOS drive 0x81
root on wd0a
rootdev=0x0 rrootdev=0x300 rawdev=0x302
wsdisplay0: screen 6 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 7 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)

Before installing release from cd, I had previously been running
current to learn more  had, against instructions, rebuilt
everything numerous times with no particular bad results. Found
the same problem then with packages, where if I built from
ports instead, no problem with ./out-of-date. I know everyone's
busy with development, running production systems  so forth.
This is not a production machine, just a learning device for me,
so this isn't urgent. Just trying to learn what I'm doing wrong.
Fine system for all I can see so far. I've been running fbsd for
a long time now on my old hp netserver  am relatively new to obsd,
especially to the way ports are handled. Used to running portupgrade
 associated programs like portversion in fbsd. Thanks for any help
I can get.
Denny White

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Re: ./out-of-date question

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On Dec 3 Joachim Schipper contributed the following:


On Sat, Dec 03, 2005 at 12:41:50PM -0600, Denny White wrote:


Have a question about the results of running
/usr/ports/infrastructure/build/./out-of-date.
Here is the output from it:
Make sure your ports tree is up-to-date
Generating specs
Checking new package names
Recording old package names
Showing discrepancies
--- /tmp/outdated.IJmN26992/old Sat Dec  3 12:02:14 2005
+++ /tmp/outdated.IJmN26992/new Sat Dec  3 12:02:14 2005
@@ -17,7 +17,7 @@
  libiconv-1.9.2p1
  libltdl-1.5.18
  mergemaster-1.46p0
-mozilla-firefox-1.0.6p3
+mozilla-firefox-1.0.6p4
  pine-4.63
  png-1.2.8
  tcl-8.4.7p1
Before installing mozilla-firefox, running ./out-of-date
showed nothing needing updating. I had installed the normal
programs I use here at home. Pine, fetchmail, gnupg, gpgme,
cvsup, mergemaster. No problems. I installed obsd 3.8 release
off the cd along with src, sys, XF4, ports. Then did a cvsup
to a local backup drive (complete tree), cd into /usr/src,
ran `cvs -d$CVSROOT -rOPENBSD_3_8 up -Pd', did the same for
/usr/ports  /usr/XF4, rebuilt kernel  installed  rebooted
(everything worked ok), rebuilt userland making sure /usr/obj
was clean  running beforehand the usual `cd /usr/src/etc 
env DESTDIR=/ make distrib-dirs'  after running `cd
/usr/src/usr.sbin/httpd  make -f Makefile.bsd-
wrapper distribution'  then mergemaster, rebuilt /usr/XF4,
everything still okay up to installing mozilla-firefox package.
I haven't been building ports as I have no particular special
needs to build in, just installing packages with
`pkg_add ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/3.8/packages/i386/prog.tgz'.
The same thing had happened previously when I had installed fluxbox.
Blackbox didn't give the same problem, but now mozilla-firefox is.
Here's uname -a output:


It is possible for packages to lag behind ports. Packages are slanted
towards -release, not -stable or -current, IIRC.

Anyway, just build Firefox from source if you want 1.0.6p4.

Joachim



Thanks, Joachim. Now I remember reading the lag thing. Sorry
for the bother. Unistalled the package, ran ./out-of-date 
no more problem. Built firefox from ports, reran ./out-of-date
 once again, no more problems. Much appreciated.
Denny White

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NFS and Rebooting problem

[Denny White]

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I was hoping someone could shed some light with some good
links, sample configurations, etc., that might help me
with the following. Not looking for someone to fix it
for me or anything like that. Maybe the following will show
that I have tried reading, googling, experimenting, etc.,
before asking. I don't want to have any settings too high
to cause other problems, just to change what's neccessary.
When I'd drag  drop files to copy from a windows xp box
to an nfs share on the obsd box, the obsd system would
reboot. I thought at first that it was either something
conflicting from the xp box, or that I had a hardware
problem on the obsd box. That had happened once with a
bad simm, but I had replaced it  had had no further
problems until now. Before running a time consuming
memory test on the obsd box, I did some reading on obsd
tunables, and am now able to copy a file over from the
xp box without the system rebooting. Below is a list of
the changes:

net.inet.tcp.keepinittime=600
net.inet.tcp.keepidle=28800
net.inet.tcp.keepintvl=600
net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65536 
net.inet.tcp.sendspace=32768 
net.inet.udp.recvspace=83200 
net.bpf.bufsize=65536 
vfs.nfs.iothreads=4


Before the problem started occurring, I was using softupdates. I 
tried running without them, thinking maybe that had some bearing on

the problem. Apparently it didn't. The only thing that helped was the
changes listed above. I read that if you increase the tcp.recvspace 
tcp.sendspace too high, you can cause a kernel panic when booting.
That hasn't happened so far, with the above values. Exactly how high
I can go without problems, I don't know. The obsd box is used for email
 learning, mostly. No high usage production server. The largest file
I've tried to copy to the nfs share since making the changes was about
26mb. No reboot this time. Before the changes, about the largest I could
copy without trouble was 2mb. Right now, I'm limited on memory. There's
only 256mb on the obsd box. That might be a problem, too, if I keep
increasing the above values. There is no problem with file sizes when
using scp across the network. Forgot to mention that I had tested it
too, by mounting an obsd nfs share over on a fbsd box  had tried to
copy a large file over, resulting in a reboot. That was when I figured
I had it narrowed down to hardware or an obsd settings problem, the
latter apparently being the case. Thanks for any answers  advice.
Below is output of uname -a  dmesg.

OpenBSD badboybox.cableone.net 3.8 GENERIC#0 i386

OpenBSD 3.8-stable (GENERIC) #0: Fri Dec  2 01:25:13 CST 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class) 601 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
real mem  = 267952128 (261672K)
avail mem = 237613056 (232044K)
using 3296 buffers containing 13500416 bytes (13184K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(a7) BIOS, date 01/31/02, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfb4f0
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
apm0: flags 70102 dobusy 1 doidle 1
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0xb970
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdd90/144 (7 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 5 9 10 11
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:07:0 (VIA VT82C596A ISA rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 VIA VT82C691 PCI rev 0xc4
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 VIA VT82C598 AGP rev 0x00
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
pcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 VIA VT82C686 ISA rev 0x22
pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 VIA VT82C571 IDE rev 0x10: ATA66, channel 0 
configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: WDC WD300BB-00AUA1
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 28629MB, 58633344 sectors
wd1 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 1: WDC WD400BB-00AUA1
wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 38166MB, 78165360 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4
wd1(pciide0:0:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: HP, CD-Writer+ 9500b, 1.06 SCSI0 5/cdrom 
removable
atapiscsi1 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 1
scsibus1 at atapiscsi1: 2 targets
cd1 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: ASUS, CD-S500/A, 1.0K SCSI0 5/cdrom removable
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2
cd1(pciide0:1:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
uhci0 at pci0 dev 7 function 2 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x10: irq 9
usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1 at pci0 dev 7 function 3 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x10: irq 9
usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered

Re: NFS and Rebooting problem

[Denny White]

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Today Otto Moerbeek contributed the following:


On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Denny White wrote:


I was hoping someone could shed some light with some good
links, sample configurations, etc., that might help me
with the following. Not looking for someone to fix it
for me or anything like that. Maybe the following will show
that I have tried reading, googling, experimenting, etc.,
before asking. I don't want to have any settings too high
to cause other problems, just to change what's neccessary.
When I'd drag  drop files to copy from a windows xp box
to an nfs share on the obsd box, the obsd system would
reboot. I thought at first that it was either something
conflicting from the xp box, or that I had a hardware
problem on the obsd box. That had happened once with a
bad simm, but I had replaced it  had had no further
problems until now. Before running a time consuming
memory test on the obsd box, I did some reading on obsd
tunables, and am now able to copy a file over from the
xp box without the system rebooting. Below is a list of
the changes:

net.inet.tcp.keepinittime=600
net.inet.tcp.keepidle=28800
net.inet.tcp.keepintvl=600
net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65536 net.inet.tcp.sendspace=32768
net.inet.udp.recvspace=83200 net.bpf.bufsize=65536 vfs.nfs.iothreads=4


What type of nfs mount are you using? v2 or v3; udp or tcp?

Any info on the console the moment the machine reboots? What is the
value of tyhe ddb.panic sysctl? Anything in the logs?

-Otto


Looks like v3, tcp. there was nothing on the screen when the
box rebooted. Just goes blank  reboots. Looked through the
logs  couldn't find anything, either. Running sysctl -a | grep ddb.panic
returns `ddb.panic=1'. I'm a relative newbie, so I could be completely
offbase, but this doesn't look good. Looks like maybe it could be a
hardware problem. Maybe the settings I upped could are just taking some
of the strain off the system. I read in the obsd faqs, concerning nfs,
that nfs filesystems should be mounted with 0 0 on the end of the line
in /etc/fstab so the computer doesn't try to fsck the nfs filesystem on
boot. Here's what my /etc/fstab looks like  /etc/exports:

/dev/wd0a / ffs rw 1 1
/dev/wd0h /data ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2
/dev/wd0f /home ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2
/dev/wd0g /tmp ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2
/dev/wd0e /usr ffs rw,nodev 1 2
/dev/wd0d /var ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2
/dev/wd1c /mnt ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2
/dev/cd0c /mnt/cdrom cd9660 ro,nodev,nosuid,noauto 0 0
/dev/fd0a /mnt/floppy msdos ro,nodev,nosuid,noauto 0 0
/mnt/data2/swap /mnt/data2/swap swap sw 0 0

#   $OpenBSD: exports,v 1.2 2002/05/31 08:15:44 pjanzen Exp $
#
# NFS exports Database
# See exports(5) for more information.  Be very careful:  misconfiguration
# of this file can result in your filesystems being readable by the world.
#
/home -alldirs -maproot=0 192.168.1.100 192.168.1.101 192.168.1.103 
/data -alldirs -maproot=0 192.168.1.100 192.168.1.101 192.168.1.103

/mnt -alldirs -maproot=0 192.168.1.100 192.168.1.101 192.168.1.103

I don't quite understand the faqs I read, I guess. I thought
all you had to do was put the right parameters into /etc/exports
and you were good to go. Not having any problems on the old
hp netserver running fbsd_5_4. Hope some of this helps. Hurried
gathering the info. Have head off for work shortly.
Denny White




Before the problem started occurring, I was using softupdates. I tried running
without them, thinking maybe that had some bearing on
the problem. Apparently it didn't. The only thing that helped was the
changes listed above. I read that if you increase the tcp.recvspace 
tcp.sendspace too high, you can cause a kernel panic when booting.
That hasn't happened so far, with the above values. Exactly how high
I can go without problems, I don't know. The obsd box is used for email
 learning, mostly. No high usage production server. The largest file
I've tried to copy to the nfs share since making the changes was about
26mb. No reboot this time. Before the changes, about the largest I could
copy without trouble was 2mb. Right now, I'm limited on memory. There's
only 256mb on the obsd box. That might be a problem, too, if I keep
increasing the above values. There is no problem with file sizes when
using scp across the network. Forgot to mention that I had tested it
too, by mounting an obsd nfs share over on a fbsd box  had tried to
copy a large file over, resulting in a reboot. That was when I figured
I had it narrowed down to hardware or an obsd settings problem, the
latter apparently being the case. Thanks for any answers  advice.
Below is output of uname -a  dmesg.

OpenBSD badboybox.cableone.net 3.8 GENERIC#0 i386

OpenBSD 3.8-stable (GENERIC) #0: Fri Dec  2 01:25:13 CST 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class) 601 MHz
cpu0:
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
real mem  = 267952128 (261672K

Re: NFS and Rebooting problem

[Denny White]

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Today Joachim Schipper contributed the following:


On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 11:36:35AM -0600, Denny White wrote:


Today Otto Moerbeek contributed the following:

On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Denny White wrote:

When I'd drag  drop files to copy from a windows xp box
to an nfs share on the obsd box, the obsd system would
reboot. I thought at first that it was either something
conflicting from the xp box, or that I had a hardware
problem on the obsd box. That had happened once with a
bad simm, but I had replaced it  had had no further
problems until now. Before running a time consuming
memory test on the obsd box, I did some reading on obsd
tunables, and am now able to copy a file over from the
xp box without the system rebooting. Below is a list of
the changes:

net.inet.tcp.keepinittime=600
net.inet.tcp.keepidle=28800
net.inet.tcp.keepintvl=600
net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65536 net.inet.tcp.sendspace=32768
net.inet.udp.recvspace=83200 net.bpf.bufsize=65536 vfs.nfs.iothreads=4


What type of nfs mount are you using? v2 or v3; udp or tcp?

Any info on the console the moment the machine reboots? What is the
value of tyhe ddb.panic sysctl? Anything in the logs?

-Otto


Looks like v3, tcp. there was nothing on the screen when the
box rebooted. Just goes blank  reboots. Looked through the
logs  couldn't find anything, either. Running sysctl -a | grep ddb.panic
returns `ddb.panic=1'. I'm a relative newbie, so I could be completely
offbase, but this doesn't look good. Looks like maybe it could be a
hardware problem. Maybe the settings I upped could are just taking some
of the strain off the system. I read in the obsd faqs, concerning nfs,
that nfs filesystems should be mounted with 0 0 on the end of the line
in /etc/fstab so the computer doesn't try to fsck the nfs filesystem on
boot. Here's what my /etc/fstab looks like  /etc/exports:

/dev/wd0a / ffs rw 1 1
/dev/wd0h /data ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2
/dev/wd0f /home ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2
/dev/wd0g /tmp ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2
/dev/wd0e /usr ffs rw,nodev 1 2
/dev/wd0d /var ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2
/dev/wd1c /mnt ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2
/dev/cd0c /mnt/cdrom cd9660 ro,nodev,nosuid,noauto 0 0
/dev/fd0a /mnt/floppy msdos ro,nodev,nosuid,noauto 0 0
/mnt/data2/swap /mnt/data2/swap swap sw 0 0


I am not certain your swap file is configured correctly - I'm not
certain, I've never used it, but every swap I've ever seen had a mount
point of 'none'. Then again, the mount point was simply not used at all
on Linux - I've never toyed with it on OpenBSD.

Additionally, you shouldn't mount any 'c' partitions, such as /dev/wd1c,
unless you are *very*, *very* sure what you are doing. In which case you
probably don't want to. ;-)

I don't think either of this will help much, though.

Joachim


I thought it was configured right, but maybe not, afterall.
Maybe I didn't understand how to add a 2nd disk properly
when I put in an extra hd for storage space. I dangerously
dedicated, I think it's called, the entire drive. I didn't
see any need to divide it up, at the time. Did the same thing
on a fbsd box (but it's scsi, not ide)  not having problems
there. I can remotely mount the shares from the xp box  copy
really large files to the fbsd box without any problems. Have
copied files as large as iso's there without complaint from
that system. As for mounting /dev/wd1c, I didn't see any other
way to mount it, nor would the system let me do it any other
way. So, if you or anyone else sees a mistake there, in the
way I've mounted it, please advise. When I get home from work
tonight, I'm going to use swapctl to stop using the extra file
swap I created on the 2nd disk, hash it out in fstab,  see if
that helps with the file copying problem. If that works, I might 
try doing, what the obsd faq calls, a more permanent swap to that

disc using a vnode device (www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14#SwapFile)
instead of a file swap. Thanks for the reply  advice.
Denny White

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Re: NFS and Rebooting problem

[Denny White]

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On Dec 9 Will H. Backman contributed the following:


If you want to do it properly, use fdisk -e wd1, disklabel -E wd1, and
newfs /dev/rwd1a, in that order.

Joachim


Which is the short version of the New Disk FAQ:
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#NewDisk



Thanks to Will  Joachim. Apologizes for not replying to
message sooner. Tried using fdisk, disklabel and newfs first.
Everything fine on the disk, but problem still there. Next,
shutdown  disconnected wd1 cable  power, removed it from
fstab  exports  rebooted, just sharing exports on wd0, 
tried copying files from xp box. No help, still rebooted.
Pulled the old nic, Intel 82557,  tried a 3com905c. This
time, it didn't reboot when I did the file copy, with quite
large files, so I thought I had the problem solved. Connected
wd1  reset the nfs shares , did a large file copy  rebooted.
So, I restored the following tweaks to sysctl.conf:

net.inet.tcp.keepinittime=600   # root setting tunables for nfs reboot problem
net.inet.tcp.keepidle=28800 # root setting tunables for nfs reboot problem
net.inet.tcp.keepintvl=600  # root setting tunables for nfs reboot problem
net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65536# root setting tunables for nfs reboot problem
net.inet.tcp.sendspace=32768# root setting tunables for nfs reboot problem
net.inet.udp.recvspace=83200# root setting tunables for nfs reboot problem
net.bpf.bufsize=65536   # root setting tunables for nfs reboot problem

So far, haven't rebooted again, copying large files. Here's
wd1 info from fstab so everyone knows I wasn't lazy  really
did the initial disk work to repair my first newbie job on it:

/dev/wd1a on /data2 type ffs (local, nodev, nosuid)

Thanks again for the help. If anyone sees something I've bunged
up, please let me know, if you have the time.

Denny White

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unzip path for f-prot update problem

[Denny White]

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When f-prot tries to update in root's cron, it reports fatal
error, can't find unzip. Unzip is located in /usr/local/bin
which is in root's path env:

PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/sbin:
/usr/local/bin

Have tried unzip from deep into directory structure and it works,
comes up fine. Just wondering what I'm doing wrong. Works fine on
my old hp netserver running fbsd_5_4. Can't find any major differences
in the setups. Thanks for any  all help  advice.
Denny White

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Re: unzip path for f-prot update problem

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Denny White wrote:

When f-prot tries to update in root's cron, it reports fatal
error, can't find unzip. Unzip is located in /usr/local/bin
which is in root's path env:

PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/sbin:
/usr/local/bin



On Dec 27 Nick Holland contributed the following:

WHICH root's path env?
When root logs in?  or when root's crontab runs?  That's two separate
environments...


Have tried unzip from deep into directory structure and it works,
comes up fine. Just wondering what I'm doing wrong. Works fine on
my old hp netserver running fbsd_5_4. Can't find any major differences
in the setups. Thanks for any  all help  advice.
Denny White


replace your invocation of unzip or whatever you actually have in your
cron job with a echo $PATH and see what your path REALLY is when the
program executes.

Something funny about the way your line broke there...gotta wonder if
that /usr/local/bin is on a separate physical line...assuming that was
in the crontab in the first place...

Nick.



Thanks Nick. Here's what echo $PATH returned from the cron job:

/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin

I fixed the path statement in cron. Now I see what you're saying. And,
the path line I put in the original message was too long to fit on the
screen, at least as far as I thought was acceptable in the mailing list,
so I just continued it on the next line. F-prot was trying to call unzip
from within the perl script updater  not getting anywhere due to my goof.
Sorry for the bother. I'm still trying learn my way around obsd. I've run
fbsd for a while on another box  never had path problems there with cron
 f-prot. I went  checked it  there is no path path statement in roots
crontab on that system. That's why, I guess, I never thought to check it
on this system. BTW, the script just ran  updated f-prot successfully.
Thanks again for the help.

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Tuning NFS file transfer speed

[Denny White]

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I know the usual complaint is, it's not fast enough. My
question is, after doing much googling - mail archive
reading, is there a way to slow the file transfer speed
down? I've asked the list before about a rebooting problem
I have on this box,  it's still here, but now only when
I transfer large files from another box. I thought for a
while, it might be something with the XP system on another
box, but the same problem exists when I try it from my
FreeBSD box. I've fought with the BIOS settings for weeks
now,  once thought I had the problem fixed. Later, my
friend, unbeknownst to me  thinking he was helping, tried
tweaking the BIOS some more, before I had a chance to write
down all the settings. Since, I have not been able to duplicate
a problem free incoming NFS file transfer, unless it's a small
file. Anything over 6-8MB  down she goes. I can, on the other
hand, mount exported shares from my XP or FreeBSD boxes and
copy really large files to them from this OpenBSD box. I've
swapped cables, to no avail. I've checked the hd, the simms,
everything showing okay. I have the proper cable on the hd,
80 pin. Dmesg shows it using Ultra DMA 66. I'll include the
dmesg at end of message. Several times in the past, the box
rebooted too, when updating the locate database, or when
running fsck. That seems to have disappeared since making
some changes in the BIOS, the most important one being,
according to some BIOS/reboot problems I read about on Google,
getting the cmos clock  the os clock synced properly. I'm
now using /etc/localtime - /usr/share/zoneinfo/UTC instead of
Central like before. Thanks for any help I can get on this. I
really tried to solve this before asking for help. Right now,
can't afford another box, mobo, etc. Everything else on here
works great. Cvsup, rebuilding kernel  userland,  so forth.

OpenBSD 3.8-stable (GENERIC) #2: Wed Dec 28 10:03:01 CST 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class) 601 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
real mem  = 335060992 (327208K)
avail mem = 298348544 (291356K)
using 4115 buffers containing 16855040 bytes (16460K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(a7) BIOS, date 01/31/02, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfb4f0
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
apm0: flags 70102 dobusy 1 doidle 1
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0xb970
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdd90/144 (7 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 5 9 10 11
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:07:0 (VIA VT82C596A ISA rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 0xc8000/0x800
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 VIA VT82C691 PCI rev 0xc4
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 VIA VT82C598 AGP rev 0x00
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
pcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 VIA VT82C686 ISA rev 0x22
pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 VIA VT82C571 IDE rev 0x10: ATA66, channel 0 
configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: WDC WD400BB-00AUA1
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 38166MB, 78165360 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: HP, CD-Writer+ 9500b, 1.06 SCSI0 5/cdrom 
removable
atapiscsi1 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 1
scsibus1 at atapiscsi1: 2 targets
cd1 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: ASUS, CD-S500/A, 1.0K SCSI0 5/cdrom removable
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2
cd1(pciide0:1:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
uhci0 at pci0 dev 7 function 2 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x10: irq 9
usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1 at pci0 dev 7 function 3 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x10: irq 9
usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
viaenv0 at pci0 dev 7 function 4 VIA VT82C686 SMBus rev 0x30
auvia0 at pci0 dev 7 function 5 VIA VT82C686 AC97 rev 0x20: irq 5
ac97: codec id 0x83847644 (SigmaTel STAC9744/45)
ac97: codec features 18 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, SigmaTel 3D
audio0 at auvia0
xl0 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 3Com 3c905C 100Base-TX rev 0x78: irq 11, 
address 00:01:03:1a:2f:21
bmtphy0 at xl0 phy 24: Broadcom 3C905C internal PHY, rev. 7
vga1 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 3DFX Interactive Voodoo3 rev 0x01
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
isa0 at pcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pmsi0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot
wsmouse0 at 

Re: Tuning NFS file transfer speed

[Denny White]

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On Mon, 9 Jan 2006, Denny White wrote:


Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 12:13:38 + (UTC)
From: Denny White [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: OpenBSD Questions Mailing List misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Tuning NFS file transfer speed

I know the usual complaint is, it's not fast enough. My
question is, after doing much googling - mail archive
reading, is there a way to slow the file transfer speed
down? I've asked the list before about a rebooting problem
I have on this box,  it's still here, but now only when
I transfer large files from another box. I thought for a
while, it might be something with the XP system on another
box, but the same problem exists when I try it from my
FreeBSD box. I've fought with the BIOS settings for weeks
now,  once thought I had the problem fixed. Later, my
friend, unbeknownst to me  thinking he was helping, tried
tweaking the BIOS some more, before I had a chance to write
down all the settings. Since, I have not been able to duplicate
a problem free incoming NFS file transfer, unless it's a small
file. Anything over 6-8MB  down she goes. I can, on the other
hand, mount exported shares from my XP or FreeBSD boxes and
copy really large files to them from this OpenBSD box. I've
swapped cables, to no avail. I've checked the hd, the simms,
everything showing okay. I have the proper cable on the hd,
80 pin. Dmesg shows it using Ultra DMA 66. I'll include the
dmesg at end of message. Several times in the past, the box
rebooted too, when updating the locate database, or when
running fsck. That seems to have disappeared since making
some changes in the BIOS, the most important one being,
according to some BIOS/reboot problems I read about on Google,
getting the cmos clock  the os clock synced properly. I'm
now using /etc/localtime - /usr/share/zoneinfo/UTC instead of
Central like before. Thanks for any help I can get on this. I
really tried to solve this before asking for help. Right now,
can't afford another box, mobo, etc. Everything else on here
works great. Cvsup, rebuilding kernel  userland,  so forth.

OpenBSD 3.8-stable (GENERIC) #2: Wed Dec 28 10:03:01 CST 2005
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class) 601 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE

real mem  = 335060992 (327208K)
avail mem = 298348544 (291356K)
using 4115 buffers containing 16855040 bytes (16460K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(a7) BIOS, date 01/31/02, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfb4f0
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
apm0: flags 70102 dobusy 1 doidle 1
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0xb970
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdd90/144 (7 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 5 9 10 11
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:07:0 (VIA VT82C596A ISA rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 0xc8000/0x800
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 VIA VT82C691 PCI rev 0xc4
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 VIA VT82C598 AGP rev 0x00
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
pcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 VIA VT82C686 ISA rev 0x22
pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 VIA VT82C571 IDE rev 0x10: ATA66, 
channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to 
compatibility

wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: WDC WD400BB-00AUA1
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 38166MB, 78165360 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: HP, CD-Writer+ 9500b, 1.06 SCSI0 5/cdrom 
removable

atapiscsi1 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 1
scsibus1 at atapiscsi1: 2 targets
cd1 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: ASUS, CD-S500/A, 1.0K SCSI0 5/cdrom 
removable

cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2
cd1(pciide0:1:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
uhci0 at pci0 dev 7 function 2 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x10: irq 9
usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1 at pci0 dev 7 function 3 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x10: irq 9
usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
viaenv0 at pci0 dev 7 function 4 VIA VT82C686 SMBus rev 0x30
auvia0 at pci0 dev 7 function 5 VIA VT82C686 AC97 rev 0x20: irq 5
ac97: codec id 0x83847644 (SigmaTel STAC9744/45)
ac97: codec features 18 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, SigmaTel 3D
audio0 at auvia0
xl0 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 3Com 3c905C 100Base-TX rev 0x78: irq 11, 
address 00:01:03:1a:2f:21

bmtphy0 at xl0 phy 24: Broadcom 3C905C internal PHY, rev. 7
vga1 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 3DFX Interactive Voodoo3 rev 0x01
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
isa0 at pcib0
isadma0

Re: SOLVED: Tuning NFS file transfer speed

[Denny White]

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On Mon, 9 Jan 2006, Denny White wrote:


Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 12:13:38 + (UTC)
From: Denny White [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: OpenBSD Questions Mailing List misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Tuning NFS file transfer speed

I know the usual complaint is, it's not fast enough. My
question is, after doing much googling - mail archive
reading, is there a way to slow the file transfer speed
down? I've asked the list before about a rebooting problem
I have on this box,  it's still here, but now only when
I transfer large files from another box. I thought for a
while, it might be something with the XP system on another
box, but the same problem exists when I try it from my
FreeBSD box. I've fought with the BIOS settings for weeks
now,  once thought I had the problem fixed. Later, my
friend, unbeknownst to me  thinking he was helping, tried
tweaking the BIOS some more, before I had a chance to write
down all the settings. Since, I have not been able to duplicate
a problem free incoming NFS file transfer, unless it's a small
file. Anything over 6-8MB  down she goes. I can, on the other
hand, mount exported shares from my XP or FreeBSD boxes and
copy really large files to them from this OpenBSD box. I've
swapped cables, to no avail. I've checked the hd, the simms,
everything showing okay. I have the proper cable on the hd,
80 pin. Dmesg shows it using Ultra DMA 66. I'll include the
dmesg at end of message. Several times in the past, the box
rebooted too, when updating the locate database, or when
running fsck. That seems to have disappeared since making
some changes in the BIOS, the most important one being,
according to some BIOS/reboot problems I read about on Google,
getting the cmos clock  the os clock synced properly. I'm
now using /etc/localtime - /usr/share/zoneinfo/UTC instead of
Central like before. Thanks for any help I can get on this. I
really tried to solve this before asking for help. Right now,
can't afford another box, mobo, etc. Everything else on here
works great. Cvsup, rebuilding kernel  userland,  so forth.

OpenBSD 3.8-stable (GENERIC) #2: Wed Dec 28 10:03:01 CST 2005
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class) 601 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE

real mem  = 335060992 (327208K)
avail mem = 298348544 (291356K)
using 4115 buffers containing 16855040 bytes (16460K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(a7) BIOS, date 01/31/02, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 
0xfb4f0

apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
apm0: flags 70102 dobusy 1 doidle 1
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0xb970
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdd90/144 (7 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 5 9 10 11
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:07:0 (VIA VT82C596A ISA rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 0xc8000/0x800
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 VIA VT82C691 PCI rev 0xc4
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 VIA VT82C598 AGP rev 0x00
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
pcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 VIA VT82C686 ISA rev 0x22
pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 VIA VT82C571 IDE rev 0x10: ATA66, 
channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to 
compatibility

wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: WDC WD400BB-00AUA1
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 38166MB, 78165360 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: HP, CD-Writer+ 9500b, 1.06 SCSI0 5/cdrom 
removable

atapiscsi1 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 1
scsibus1 at atapiscsi1: 2 targets
cd1 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: ASUS, CD-S500/A, 1.0K SCSI0 5/cdrom 
removable

cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2
cd1(pciide0:1:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
uhci0 at pci0 dev 7 function 2 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x10: irq 9
usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1 at pci0 dev 7 function 3 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x10: irq 9
usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
viaenv0 at pci0 dev 7 function 4 VIA VT82C686 SMBus rev 0x30
auvia0 at pci0 dev 7 function 5 VIA VT82C686 AC97 rev 0x20: irq 5
ac97: codec id 0x83847644 (SigmaTel STAC9744/45)
ac97: codec features 18 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, SigmaTel 3D
audio0 at auvia0
xl0 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 3Com 3c905C 100Base-TX rev 0x78: irq 11, 
address 00:01:03:1a:2f:21

bmtphy0 at xl0 phy 24: Broadcom 3C905C internal PHY, rev. 7
vga1 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 3DFX Interactive Voodoo3 rev 0x01
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
isa0 at pcib0
isadma0

Intel 82801 SMBus dmesg question

[Denny White]

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Had originally posted a message Tuning NFS File Transfer Speed
and had eventually posted a Solved reply to it on the list.
That turned out to be erroneous. It did turn out to be a hardware
issue. Had some leaking capacitors on the old VIA Abit mobo and
replaced it with a Aopen MX3ST mobo picked up on the cheap. All
seems to be working okay so far, but my question concerns what
dmesg is saying. I googled all over, searched in the archives,
and came up with lots of dmesg's that mentioned it, but didn't
explain specifically what that one line meant. It says:

Intel 82801BA SMBus rev 0x05 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 not configured

Before asking anything on the list, I tried different things in the BIOS
like disabling USB, the onboard NIC, juggled some IRQ's, just generally
doing some experimenting, but the message is still there. I'd just like
to know what exactly it means  maybe be pointed to a site that explains
it so I can learn more about it. Will put in output of dmesg  ifconfig
below. Thanks for all replies.

Denny White
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OpenBSD 3.8-stable (GENERIC) #4: Tue Jan 17 02:45:42 UTC 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class) 801 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
real mem  = 266969088 (260712K)
avail mem = 236720128 (231172K)
using 3284 buffers containing 13451264 bytes (13136K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(f4) BIOS, date 07/19/02, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfb140
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
apm0: flags 70102 dobusy 1 doidle 1
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0xdf84
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdef0/128 (6 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 9 10 11
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 (Intel 82371SB ISA rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xc000 0xcc000/0x800
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82815 Hub rev 0x04
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82815 Graphics rev 0x04: aperture at 
0xe000, size 0x400
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
ppb0 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA AGP rev 0x05
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
fxp0 at pci1 dev 8 function 0 Intel 82562 rev 0x03: irq 11, address 
00:01:80:0b:76:77
inphy0 at fxp0 phy 1: i82562ET 10/100 PHY, rev. 0
xl0 at pci1 dev 10 function 0 3Com 3c905C 100Base-TX rev 0x78: irq 11, 
address 00:01:03:1a:2f:21
bmtphy0 at xl0 phy 24: Broadcom 3C905C internal PHY, rev. 7
ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801BA LPC rev 0x05
pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801BA IDE rev 0x05: DMA, channel 0 
wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: WDC WD400BB-00AUA1
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 38166MB, 78165360 sectors
wd1 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 1: WDC WD300BB-00AUA1
wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 28629MB, 58633344 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
wd1(pciide0:0:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: HP, CD-Writer+ 9500b, 1.06 SCSI0 5/cdrom 
removable
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2
uhci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801BA USB rev 0x05: irq 10
usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
Intel 82801BA SMBus rev 0x05 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 not configured
uhci1 at pci0 dev 31 function 4 Intel 82801BA USB rev 0x05: irq 11
usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
auich0 at pci0 dev 31 function 5 Intel 82801BA AC97 rev 0x05: irq 9, ICH2 AC97
ac97: codec id 0x41445360 (Analog Devices AD1885)
ac97: codec features headphone, Analog Devices Phat Stereo
audio0 at auich0
isa0 at ichpcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pmsi0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot
wsmouse0 at pmsi0 mux 0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker
spkr0 at pcppi0
sysbeep0 at pcppi0
lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7
lm0 at isa0 port 0x290/8: W83627HF
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16
pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
pccom1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2
fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec
biomask ed65 netmask ed65 ttymask fde7
pctr: 686-class user-level performance counters enabled
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support
dkcsum: wd0 matches

Re: Intel 82801 SMBus dmesg question

[Denny White]

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Today Otto Moerbeek contributed the following:

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, Denny White wrote:


Had originally posted a message Tuning NFS File Transfer Speed
and had eventually posted a Solved reply to it on the list.
That turned out to be erroneous. It did turn out to be a hardware
issue. Had some leaking capacitors on the old VIA Abit mobo and
replaced it with a Aopen MX3ST mobo picked up on the cheap. All
seems to be working okay so far, but my question concerns what
dmesg is saying. I googled all over, searched in the archives,
and came up with lots of dmesg's that mentioned it, but didn't
explain specifically what that one line meant. It says:

Intel 82801BA SMBus rev 0x05 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 not configured

Before asking anything on the list, I tried different things in the BIOS
like disabling USB, the onboard NIC, juggled some IRQ's, just generally
doing some experimenting, but the message is still there. I'd just like
to know what exactly it means  maybe be pointed to a site that explains
it so I can learn more about it. Will put in output of dmesg  ifconfig
below. Thanks for all replies.


There's nothing wrong. It just mean SMBus is not supported. SMBus is a
system management bus.  It is generally used to read and control fans,
temperature sensors and such.  It is not supported on 3.8, but 3.9
will support a wide variety of SMBus controllers.

Install 3.9-beta to take a look. It's available on the various
mirrors.  The ichiic(4) and iic(4) man pages contain some more info.
You can read them via the web site:
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=ichiic


-Otto




Thanks, Otto, for the reply. I'll try it. Have an old Prioris server
donated from a friend to experiment on. Just checked in 3.8 and there's
a man page for iic, leading eventually to other related stuff, including
sensorsd and sysctl. I've played around with them a little, especially
when I was having mobo problems. Thanks again.
Denny White

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sysctl hw.sensors question

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I had trouble with this box with Xwindows after updating
src, ports,  XF4  rebuilding everything. I tried putting
an old Voodoo Banshee in in lieu of the onboard video, did
an xorgconfig,  still couldn't use X. Finally thought to
disable onboard video in the bios  now X is okay. My
question pertains to the output of sysctl hw.sensors. I
recall playing around with it before just to see how it
worked,  I don't remember some of the readings being in
the output that are there now, since installing the Voodoo
card. Here's the current output of sysctl hw.sensors:

hw.sensors.0=lm0, VCORE_A, volts_dc, 1.73 V
hw.sensors.1=lm0, VCORE_B, volts_dc, 1.74 V
hw.sensors.2=lm0, +3.3V, volts_dc, 3.26 V
hw.sensors.3=lm0, +5V, volts_dc, 4.91 V
hw.sensors.4=lm0, +12V, volts_dc, 12.28 V
hw.sensors.5=lm0, -12V, volts_dc, -11.82 V
hw.sensors.6=lm0, -5V, volts_dc, 3.55 V
hw.sensors.7=lm0, +5VSB, volts_dc, 4.92 V
hw.sensors.8=lm0, VBAT, volts_dc, 3.26 V
hw.sensors.9=lm0, Temp1, temp, 33.00 degC / 91.40 degF
hw.sensors.10=lm0, Temp2, temp, 22.50 degC / 72.50 degF
hw.sensors.11=lm0, Temp3, temp, 127.50 degC / 261.50 degF
hw.sensors.12=lm0, Fan1, fanrpm, 4891 RPM

The one that's alarming is the 2nd from last line, that
says 261.50 degF. I'm wondering if that's about the video
card or what. One note: the output on that line never
changes. That's why I'm thinking it's erroneous. I googled
around, read the sysctl man page,  even some stuff at
kerneltrap, but I still don't understand what's going on.
Below is my dmesg in case it's needed. Thanks for any help
on this.
Denny White

OpenBSD 3.8-stable (GENERIC) #6: Fri Feb  3 03:05:23 UTC 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class) 801 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
real mem  = 268017664 (261736K)
avail mem = 237674496 (232104K)
using 3297 buffers containing 13504512 bytes (13188K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(f4) BIOS, date 07/19/02, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfb140
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
apm0: flags 70102 dobusy 1 doidle 1
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0xdf84
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdef0/112 (5 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 9 10 11
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 (Intel 82371SB ISA rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 0xc8000/0x800
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82815 Hub rev 0x04
ppb0 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA AGP rev 0x05
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 5 function 0 3DFX Interactive Voodoo3 rev 0x01
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
fxp0 at pci1 dev 8 function 0 Intel 82562 rev 0x03: irq 11, address 
00:01:80:0b:76:77
inphy0 at fxp0 phy 1: i82562ET 10/100 PHY, rev. 0
xl0 at pci1 dev 10 function 0 3Com 3c905C 100Base-TX rev 0x78: irq 11, 
address 00:01:03:1a:2f:21
bmtphy0 at xl0 phy 24: Broadcom 3C905C internal PHY, rev. 7
ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801BA LPC rev 0x05
pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801BA IDE rev 0x05: DMA, channel 0 
wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: WDC WD400BB-00AUA1
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 38166MB, 78165360 sectors
wd1 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 1: WDC WD300BB-00AUA1
wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 28629MB, 58633344 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2
wd1(pciide0:0:1): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: HP, CD-Writer+ 9500b, 1.06 SCSI0 5/cdrom 
removable
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2
uhci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801BA USB rev 0x05: irq 10
usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
Intel 82801BA SMBus rev 0x05 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 not configured
uhci1 at pci0 dev 31 function 4 Intel 82801BA USB rev 0x05: irq 11
usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
auich0 at pci0 dev 31 function 5 Intel 82801BA AC97 rev 0x05: irq 9, ICH2 AC97
ac97: codec id 0x41445360 (Analog Devices AD1885)
ac97: codec features headphone, Analog Devices Phat Stereo
audio0 at auich0
isa0 at ichpcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pmsi0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot
wsmouse0 at pmsi0 mux 0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker
spkr0 at pcppi0
sysbeep0 at pcppi0
lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7
lm0 at isa0 port

Re: sysctl hw.sensors question

[Denny White]

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On 2006/02/04 20:43, Denny White wrote:

hw.sensors.11=lm0, Temp3, temp, 127.50 degC / 261.50 degF

hw.sensors.0=nsclpcsio0, TSENS1, temp, 127.00 degC / 260.60 degF
hw.sensors.1=nsclpcsio0, TSENS2, temp, 127.00 degC / 260.60 degF


Thanks for the reply. Felt around inside the box. Nothing very
warm at all.


I think that you often see the maximum possible value reported where the
chip isn't actually hooked up to a physical sensor. I guess you would
be seeing, at the very least, raised values on the other temps if the
127C was genuine.


Thanks for the reply. I had wondered that, too. I've read some
on the mobo, but maybe not enough yet. It wasn't my first choice,
but I picked it up, with install, for next to nothing, along with
a new power supply, at a local shop. I'll keep digging around in
the archives, googling, so forth. Nothing inside the box feels
very warm. Fans are working fine, too.
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Re: sysctl hw.sensors question

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On Feb 7 Joe S spake forth boldly:


Denny White wrote:

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Today Stuart Henderson spake forth boldly:


On 2006/02/04 20:43, Denny White wrote:

hw.sensors.11=lm0, Temp3, temp, 127.50 degC / 261.50 degF

hw.sensors.0=nsclpcsio0, TSENS1, temp, 127.00 degC / 260.60 degF
hw.sensors.1=nsclpcsio0, TSENS2, temp, 127.00 degC / 260.60 degF




I have a similar problem, but my box is slightly hotter.

$ sysctl hw.sensors | grep temp
hw.sensors.9=lm0, Temp1, temp, 35.00 degC / 95.00 degF
hw.sensors.10=lm0, Temp2, temp, 208.00 degC / 406.40 degF
hw.sensors.11=lm0, Temp3, temp, 36.00 degC / 96.80 degF

Wow, 406.40 F. I'd better purchase a supercooler.

OpenBSD 3.8-stable (GENERIC) #1: Tue Feb  7 09:53:00 PST 2006
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 3 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,CNXT-ID

real mem  = 1072144384 (1047016K)
avail mem = 971698176 (948924K)
using 4278 buffers containing 53710848 bytes (52452K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(8b) BIOS, date 03/09/05, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfb770
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
apm0: flags 70102 dobusy 1 doidle 1
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0xdf64
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfde80/224 (12 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 5 9 10 11 12
pcibios0: no compatible PCI ICU found: ICU vendor 0x8086 product 0x25a1
pcibios0: PCI bus #4 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82875P Host rev 0x02
ppb0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 Intel 82875P PCI-CSA rev 0x02
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
em0 at pci1 dev 1 function 0 Intel PRO/1000CT (82547GI) rev 0x00: irq 11, 
address: 00:30:48:81:cd:ec

ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 6300ESB PCIX rev 0x02
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
ppb2 at pci2 dev 1 function 0 Intel S21152BB PCI-PCI rev 0x00
pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
dc0 at pci3 dev 4 function 0 DEC 21142/3 rev 0x41: irq 9, address 
00:60:f5:06:03:fc

lxtphy0 at dc0 phy 1: LXT970 10/100 PHY, rev. 3
dc1 at pci3 dev 5 function 0 DEC 21142/3 rev 0x41: irq 9, address 
00:60:f5:06:03:fd

lxtphy1 at dc1 phy 1: LXT970 10/100 PHY, rev. 3
dc2 at pci3 dev 6 function 0 DEC 21142/3 rev 0x41: irq 9, address 
00:60:f5:06:03:fe

lxtphy2 at dc2 phy 1: LXT970 10/100 PHY, rev. 3
dc3 at pci3 dev 7 function 0 DEC 21142/3 rev 0x41: irq 9, address 
00:60:f5:06:03:ff

lxtphy3 at dc3 phy 1: LXT970 10/100 PHY, rev. 3
uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 6300ESB USB rev 0x02: irq 10
usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 5300ESB USB rev 0x02: irq 12
usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
Intel 6300ESB WDT rev 0x02 at pci0 dev 29 function 4 not configured
Intel 6300ESB APIC rev 0x02 at pci0 dev 29 function 5 not configured
ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 6300ESB USB rev 0x02: irq 9
usb2 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub2 at usb2
uhub2: Intel EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered
ppb3 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA AGP rev 0x0a
pci4 at ppb3 bus 4
vga1 at pci4 dev 9 function 0 ATI Rage XL rev 0x27
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
em1 at pci4 dev 10 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82541GI) rev 0x00: irq 12, 
address: 00:30:48:81:cd:ed

ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 6300ESB LPC rev 0x02
pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 6300ESB IDE rev 0x02: DMA, channel 
0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility

wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: HDS728080PLAT20
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 78533MB, 160836480 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: TEAC, CD-224E, 1.9A SCSI0 5/cdrom removable
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
pciide1 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 6300ESB SATA rev 0x02: DMA, channel 
0 configured to native-PCI, channel 1 configured to native-PCI

pciide1: couldn't map channel 0 cmd regs
pciide1: couldn't map channel 1 cmd regs
Intel 6300ESB SMBus rev 0x02 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 not configured
isa0 at ichpcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker
spkr0 at pcppi0
sysbeep0 at pcppi0
lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7
lm0 at isa0 port

Re: USB Printer Recommendation

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Alright, I was able to get the printer to print using the apsfilter.  Works
awesome!  Now to buy some ink and remove all traces of windows from my hard
drive.  Thanks again everyone!


Alright, well the disposition didn't have any cheap laser printers but I did
find a HP DeskJet 810C for $15.  I know you guys said stay away from inkjet
printers, but the price was right and the hpijs driver says it supports it.
It's connected via usb.  I installed hpijs along with all it's dependencies.
I
then edited /etc/printcap with:
lp|DeskJet:\
  :lp=/dev/ulpt0:\
  :af=/usr/local/share/ppd/HP/HP-DeskJEt_810C-hpijs.ppd.gz:\
  :if=/usr/local/bin/foomatic-rip:\
  :sd=/var/spool/output:\
  :sh

After starting lpd, I then tried to print with lpr, lpr /etc/printcap.
The printer starts up and begins to print, but then the paper light comes
on and after pressing it, a blank sheet comes out.  Anybody have any
thoughts?  Is my printcap wrong?  Thanks.





Today James Turner wrote:


Well, it seems I'm still having issues with apsfilter.  It prints the
first 1/4 of the page on one sheet and the other 3/4 on another.  I'm
now trying the foomatic-rip script again, which is yielding the same
result as last time.  Some one emailed me a nice set of instructions off
list, but I no longer have them  since I thought apsfilter was working.
Below is my /etc/printcap file, I have a2ps, hpijs and ghostscript all
installed.  Any help would be great, thanks.

lp|DeskJet:\
 :lp=/dev/ulpt0:\
 :if=/usr/local/bin/foomatic-rip:\
 :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
 :lf=/var/spool/lpd/lp/log:\
 :af=/usr/local/share/ppd/HP/HP-DeskJet_810C-hpijs.ppd.gz:\
 :sh:


Moved your posting down so it can be followed better. I never
had much luck with apsfilter or hpijs. I have an old HP DeskJet
722C on an xp box. Everytime I do a new install of OpenBSD, I
copy foomatic-rip  the pertinent ppd file to /usr/local/bin 
use the following /etc/printcap entry:


rp|windows line printer:\
:rp=HPDeskJet:\
:rm=remotexpbox:\
:af=/usr/local/bin/pnm2ppa.ppd:\
:if=/usr/local/bin/foomatic-rip:\
:sd=/var/spool/output:\
:mx#0:\
:sh

I noticed your ppd file is either gzipped or the entry in your
printcap is wrong. That may be a capability of apsfilter, foomatic
or hpijs I'm not familiar with. Don't know, but in all probability,
someone on the list may enlighten me. ;) Also, my printer is not usb
so that may be an issue. I just know the procedure I outlined above
works okay here. So, try putting the ungzipped ppd file into
/usr/local/bin, set the path appropriately in printcap, then try

lpr -Plp filetoprint

Hope this helps.

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Upgrade question

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I've been running a snapshot from several months back  got my
new 4.1 cds finally. Uname shows OpenBSD 4.1 Generic#0. I want
to keep my existing /home  /data partitions, delete all the
rest, recreate them  finish the install. After I reboot, I was
hoping I could copy over the old users from the old /etc/group
into the new one, copy the old passwd over  run pwd_mkdb. Just
want to know if I've reasoned it out correctly or not, if it is
right if there's anything else I need to run to synchronize
things,  so on. I've tried looking up that kind of scenario with
google, in the mail archives  so forth  just don't seem to come
up with what I need. The point of what I'm trying to accomplish
is not to have to copy so much from the 2 aforementioned partitions
to another drive  then copy it all back after recreating users.
Thanks for any help.


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Re: Upgrade question

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On May 28 Emilio Perea wrote:


On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 10:13:48PM -0500, Denny White wrote:

I've been running a snapshot from several months back  got my
new 4.1 cds finally. Uname shows OpenBSD 4.1 Generic#0. I want
to keep my existing /home  /data partitions, delete all the
rest, recreate them  finish the install. After I reboot, I was
hoping I could copy over the old users from the old /etc/group
into the new one, copy the old passwd over  run pwd_mkdb. Just
want to know if I've reasoned it out correctly or not, if it is
right if there's anything else I need to run to synchronize
things,  so on. I've tried looking up that kind of scenario with
google, in the mail archives  so forth  just don't seem to come
up with what I need. The point of what I'm trying to accomplish
is not to have to copy so much from the 2 aforementioned partitions
to another drive  then copy it all back after recreating users.
Thanks for any help.


In these situations I usually keep a copy of /etc in /home/etc.tgz and
just do a new install, skipping the /home and /data partitions when
running disklabel.  It's never a bad idea to have a full backup, though!




Just did a dump on all  backed up /etc to the extra hard drive.
That's why I mentioned being able to copy the old files over.
Just wanted to know if I had it right, the way I said to do it.
Thanks for the info.

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Re: Upgrade question

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On May 29 Joachim Schipper wrote:


On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 10:13:48PM -0500, Denny White wrote:


I've been running a snapshot from several months back  got my
new 4.1 cds finally. Uname shows OpenBSD 4.1 Generic#0. I want
to keep my existing /home  /data partitions, delete all the
rest, recreate them  finish the install. After I reboot, I was
hoping I could copy over the old users from the old /etc/group
into the new one, copy the old passwd over  run pwd_mkdb. Just
want to know if I've reasoned it out correctly or not, if it is
right if there's anything else I need to run to synchronize
things,  so on. I've tried looking up that kind of scenario with
google, in the mail archives  so forth  just don't seem to come
up with what I need. The point of what I'm trying to accomplish
is not to have to copy so much from the 2 aforementioned partitions
to another drive  then copy it all back after recreating users.
Thanks for any help.


Be careful: each release adds, and occasionally removes, new system
users. It's far safer to either update or reinstall, and you'll want to
look at www.openbsd.org/current.html for anything resembling an update.

Joachim


Thanks, Joachim. I was going to look in the new group after a fresh
install to see what had been added or removed. Always before I've
either done a complete fresh install or an upgrade, so I didn't have
to worry about the users in /home. I just recreated them on the new
system, if it was a fresh install, with their same uid's. Then I
copied everything from backups back over to the respective dirs.
I was just trying to get out of doing that this time. I figured
at the very worst my idea wouldn't work  I'd have to wipe it all
out  do it the old way. I thought if I added the old /home users
to the new /etc/group, copied the /home dirs over, ran pwd_mkdb 
properly chown the /home dirs, it might work. That's what I was
trying to find out. Now that I've thought more about it, probably
the easiest way is to just exclude /home  /data when I delete 
recreate the other partitions, recreate the users on the new install
with their same uid's,  run pwd_mkdb  their dirs will be okay.
Thanks for your answer  info. I think I've unnecessarily complicated
this. ;) Thoughts?

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Re: User mount cdrom?

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Today Timothy Wilson wrote:


Hello,
I'm having great difficulty allowing my users to mount the cdrom. I've
looked in the faq and both fstab and mount manpages, but still can't
find it! I think the GNU tools allow:

mount /dev/cd0a /mnt/cdrom -t cd9660 -o user

I'm looking for the appropriate fstab entry, but according to the man
pages, there doesn't seem to be a way? I thought it would be something
like this:

/dev/cd0a /mnt/cdrom cd9660 noauto,ro,user 0 0

But I get the following:

mount_cd9660: -o user: option not supported

Help!

Timothy.


Try man sudoers  look for the cdrom example.


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Re: Usage question

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Today Jared Solomon wrote:


Is anyone successfully using OpenBSD and mplayer or vlc with mediasite
to catch streaming lectures from a university campus or similar?

I had to get a Vista box, and I'm at wits' end with its B$.  Any
help or pointers to upgrade my Toshiba Satellite dual core box to
OpenBSD 4.1 and maintain my ability to continue in medical school is
appreciated.

Kind regards,

jared Solomon


If it's available to you as streaming content, read the following.
I love A Prairie Home Companion with Garrison Keillor  am rarely
home to listen to it on Saturday evenings. I run a script out of
cron that streams it in  dumps it to a file so I can listen later.
Below are the basics. You just need to find out the address of the
content you want  change it out with the ones below. If you don't
want to save it for later, just take out the -dumpstream  -dumpfile
stuff. e.g., mplayer mms://radio.mponline.org/MPB_Live would just
stream it in for you to watch.

mplayer -dumpstream mms://radio.mpbonline.org/MPB_Live -dumpfile 
/data/mydir/garrison/mp3/show/`date +%Y%m%d`phc.mp3


`date +%Y%m%d` prepends the current date to the phc.mp3 file
for later reference.

Try 'man mplayer'. It's a good read. ;)

Here are some more good reads:

For installing:
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html

As for upgrading, try:
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade41.html

For checking supported hardware:
http://www.openbsd.org/i386.html

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Re: How to make screenshot under console ?

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Today smonek wrote:


How to make screenshot under console ? without X11

On FreeBSD is :

vidcontrol -p  /dev/ttyv0  shot.scr

But OpenBSD haven't vidcontrol

I use OpenBSD 4.1


For capturing text on the console, you can use 'script output.out'.
After everything that you want to capture has passed, hit ctrl-d
 it'll all be in the output file.

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Re: r/w on NTFS system

[Denny White]

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Today Alex Kwan wrote:


Hello,

Can I read and write on NTFS system under OpenBSD?

Alex


I mount some nfs shares off my xp box here and copy files to
it without mishap. However, that's just me, I've read the
other replies to your message  you might want to heed the
warnings. Actually, it's probably a lot safer to just scp the
files there. I do that too on a regular basis,  do rsync backups
to the external storage on the xp box nightly using rsa public
keys so it can be done unattended, i.e., passwordless. I have 
cygwin  m$ tools for unix admin installed on the xp box with

sshd running. There may be a simpler way to do that, but I don't
know. I did like that in the beginning when I was first learning
about intercommunication between the 2 operating systems, it
worked,  I left it alone. ;)

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ksh history question

[Denny White]

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I've read the ksh man page, googled for days,  can't seem to come
up with the answer. Either I put no mention of HISTFILE and HISTSIZE
in $HOME/.profile and I don't have a lasting history file of previous
commands. Or, I put it in and I do have a history file, but the
HISTSIZE setting has no effect. It doesn't change and the file grows
and grows. Currently I have it set as shown below to save my command
line history:

HISTFILE=.ksh_history
HISTSIZE=50

I've tried using .ksh_history$$ to have a different file each login,
and know I can run a cronjob nightly to clean them up if I want to,
but I can't figure out how to make the history turn over just like
it's supposed to with the HISTSIZE value without all that other mess.
Thanks for any help I can get on this.

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Re: ksh history question

[Denny White]

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On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 11:32:00PM +, Jason McIntyre sez:  On Sun, Jan 27, 
2008 at 05:27:26PM -0600, Denny White wrote:
  
  I've read the ksh man page, googled for days,  can't seem to come
  up with the answer. Either I put no mention of HISTFILE and HISTSIZE
  in $HOME/.profile and I don't have a lasting history file of previous
  commands. Or, I put it in and I do have a history file, but the
  HISTSIZE setting has no effect. It doesn't change and the file grows
  and grows. Currently I have it set as shown below to save my command
  line history:
  
  HISTFILE=.ksh_history
  HISTSIZE=50
  
  I've tried using .ksh_history$$ to have a different file each login,
  and know I can run a cronjob nightly to clean them up if I want to,
  but I can't figure out how to make the history turn over just like
  it's supposed to with the HISTSIZE value without all that other mess.
  Thanks for any help I can get on this.
  
 
 notice that the variable is named HISTSIZE, not HISTFILESIZE :)
 
 HISTSIZE affects how many commands are kept in history (in memory - not
 file). so, for example, if you set HISTSIZE=3 you'll only be able to
 recall the past 3 commands in history. it does not turn over HISTFILE,
 however.
 
 i'm a bit confused by this myself, though - it does seem logical that
 the HISTFILE not store more commands than history itself is able to
 recall. i can;t tell by looking at the code what goes on in there -
 maybe someone else can chip in...
 
 jmc
 

Thanks, Jason. Yeah, I tried the HISTFILESIZE too. What's really
weird is, just all of a sudden, it started working! But, instead
of it starting with the number 1 on the beginning, with HISTSIZE
set at 50, e.g., you run 'fc -l 0'  you might see the beginning
number 163 with the most current command number being 211. It
never goes all the way to 50 commands, usually just 48 before
dropping one off the tail end. This is no problem, I just must be
misunderstanding the man page. Another thing I found out is, after
copying $HOME/.profile to $HOME.kshrc, removing all mention of
HISTFILE  HISTSIZE from .kshrc  putting only the following in
.profile

HISTSIZE=50;export HISTSIZE
HISTFILE=.ksh_history;export HISTFILE
ENV=$HOME/.kshrc
export ENV

it works just the same as if there was no .kshrc file  everything
was still all in .profile. I've got it running one way on one box
 the other way on another box,  they're both working. Why they
didn't work before is a mystery to me. But, I learned something
anyway about being able to do it two different ways. Thanks for
the answer.

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Re: ksh history question

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On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 11:56:56PM +0100, Jordi Espasa Clofent sez:
 HISTFILE=.ksh_history
 HISTSIZE=50
 
 Try it without double quotes on HISTSIZE value; and remember to export them.
 
 -- 
 Thanks,
 Jordi Espasa Clofent
 

Thanks for the reply, Jordi. Yeah, I saw that while googling around
 tried it, but by the time I'd posted my question, I'd taken the
quotes off. It still wasn't working. Why, all of a sudden it started
working last night, I don't know. I'm just glad it did. I think I
copied that in from a something other than the working file when I
posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Probably a .profile~ in $HOME. My bad. Thanks for
answering, though.

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Re: ksh history question

[Denny White]

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 On Jan 27, 2008, at 3:27 PM, Denny White wrote:
 I've read the ksh man page, googled for days,  can't seem to come
 up with the answer. Either I put no mention of HISTFILE and HISTSIZE
 in $HOME/.profile and I don't have a lasting history file of previous
 commands. Or, I put it in and I do have a history file, but the
 HISTSIZE setting has no effect. It doesn't change and the file grows
 and grows. Currently I have it set as shown below to save my command
 line history:
 
 HISTFILE=.ksh_history
 HISTSIZE=50
 
 I've tried using .ksh_history$$ to have a different file each login,
 and know I can run a cronjob nightly to clean them up if I want to,
 but I can't figure out how to make the history turn over just like
 it's supposed to with the HISTSIZE value without all that other mess.
 Thanks for any help I can get on this.
 
 -- 
 
 Denny White
 
On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 03:26:20PM -0800, Steve Mayer sez:
 Have you tried it without the quotes?
 
 HISTSIZE=50
 
 Steve

Yeah, dumbass me, I just answered the same question in another reply.
Should've looked at the rest of the messages. ;) Anyway, yeah, I had
tried it both ways  it still didn't work. Like I said before, why
all of a sudden it started working, I don't know. But it now it works.
Each time I made changes, I tried various ways of getting it to take
effect. I did '. ./.profile' to get the system to reread it, exited
 logged back in, etc. Strange problem but now it's resolved. Thanks
for the help, Steve. 

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Re: Computer name question

[Denny White]

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On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 09:25:08AM -0600, Eric Johnson sez:
 I recently changed the name of a computer with OpenBSD 4.2 by editing
 the /etc/myname file.  That seems to have taken care of the renaming
 almost everywhere.  I also changed the name in the /etc/hosts file as
 well.
 
 However, when I send an e-mail from it using mail, the from address
 shows the original name, not the changed name.  Also, if I don't specify
 a hostname for the to address, it appends the old hostname instead of
 the new hostname.
 
 The configuration file in /etc/mail doesn't have the original name
 anywhere.  Neither does the mc file.
 
 Does anyone know what else I need to change?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Eric Johnson
 
 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]
 

AFAIK, there are 3 files it says that need to be updated when
changing hostname. /etc/hosts, /etc/myname  /etc/hostname.interface.
The last one on my system is hostname.fxp0 and, since you didn't
mention changing your IP address, I don't why hostname.interface
would have to be changed.
I hate to ask this, but did you reboot or restart the network after
making your changes? If not, you're not going to see the changes
until you do one or the other, or change it using sysctl. Try this
 see what you get:

sysctl -a |grep hostname

If it still shows the old hostname,

sudo sysctl hostname=newname (same as in /etc/hosts  /etc/myname)

Then try your email again  see what happens.

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Re: OT: Can an SSH alternative to WebDav be use on OpenBSD

[Denny White]

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On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 05:58:57PM -0500, Daniel Ouellet sez:
 Hi,
 
 I need some possible suggestions if I may asked to not setup, or have to 
 setup WebDav on OpenBSD to allow users to do their web folder stuff. It 
 can be setup with ftp for example to allow them to map a folder in their 
 network place on XP for example, but then they can't do the stupid 
 save as and just for that, they want to use the WebDav. However, then 
 it need to allow write access via http and the full load of issues that 
 could with that when combine with php, etc.
 
 I only allow ssh access and in very special case, I had accepted ftp 
 from specific locations control via PF, but because of the stupid save 
 as, they are screaming for WebDav, or mod_dav, witch I really would like 
 to avoid totally.
 
 I just don't see the benefit worth the risk required to allow it.
 
 May be I am wrong and someone could in light me, witch I would very much 
 appreciate, but again, may be there is an alternative using SSH that I 
 do not know.
 
 I provided WinSCP years ago and it sure works well, plus I can control 
 access via ssh with PF too, witch I would loose introducing WebDav.
 
 I hate all these users that can only work using a GUI like interface all 
 the time and fell they need everything to be done via http.
 
 Anyone can provide me some ideas, or alternative here as I am running 
 out of them and being view as the asshole that always refuse flexibility 
 for security is fine, but may be there is something I can do to keep it 
 safe and give the winers a bone.
 
 I hate the Microsoft centric bias users that care less for security, but 
 would also be the first to scream should there be compromise too.
 
 Any suggestions here?
 
 Sorry for the somewhat off topic question, but I need suggestion if 
 there is any.
 
 Best,
 
 Daniel.
 

I don't know if this will help since it'll involve the windows users
having to install the M$ loopback adapter on their boxes  configure
it. It's what I use on my network for the windows boxes to access
the OpenBSD boxes via ssh. And, all windows users are using cygwin,
not putty or some other gui. In my case, I only allow passwordless
logins using rsa keys  authorized_keys files instead. If you allow
password logins, it wouldn't be a problem. No idea how many users
you have, so I guess it could turn into an admin's nightmare if
you had to go into each user's $HOME/.ssh  do the setup there.
I guess you could send out a notice  give them a deadline to ssh
in  set it up themselves. But, we're talking windows users here. ;)
Anyway, here's the link for setting up samba over ssh:

http://assela.pathirana.net/Samba_over_SSH_--_Opening_Windows_to_
UNIX_safely_and_reliably

That's all one line above. I dropped part of it down for the 72
character rule. As the article shows, instead of having to open
a cygwin prompt, then issue the tunneling command, the whole thing
can be automated with a script  a windows service started on boot.
When the user clicks start, run, types in the IP address  enter,
explorer will open showing them their samba shares. So, there's
the gui they crave. ;) Hope this helps some.

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Re: OT: Can an SSH alternative to WebDav be use on OpenBSD

[Denny White]

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On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 04:10:07AM -0500, Daniel Ouellet sez:
 Denny White wrote:
 That's all one line above. I dropped part of it down for the 72
 character rule. As the article shows, instead of having to open
 a cygwin prompt, then issue the tunneling command, the whole thing
 can be automated with a script  a windows service started on boot.
 When the user clicks start, run, types in the IP address  enter,
 explorer will open showing them their samba shares. So, there's
 the gui they crave. ;) Hope this helps some.
 
 That is interesting to read and I will sure have a look at it, but like 
 you said, these are Windows users here. (;
 
 It may never fly, but I am interested in looking into this however.
 
 Thanks for sharing it!
 
 Best,
 
 Daniel
 

Glad to help if I can. One caveat to warn you about the windows
boxes, Daniel. I really had a hair pulling time on one  it turned
out to be because it had M$'s tools for unix administration on it.
It wasn't needed since cygwin was on there. I know it was running
nfs client services which also wasn't needed, left over from before
samba was totally incorporated across the network, and I'm not sure
what else, so there was undoubtedly something there conflicting with
cygrunsrv. Once the unix admin tools were uninstalled, and the box
rebooted  the tunnel established, when the clicking start-run-
typing in IP-enter crap was all done, the hookup was really fast.
I'm sure if you wanted you could reverse that  get rid of cygwin
 keep the unix tools running it's sshd as a service instead, but
I'm used to cygwin  actually kind of like it. It's helped me out
quite a bit in the past.

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Re: OT: Can an SSH alternative to WebDav be use on OpenBSD

[Denny White]

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   Denny White wrote:
   That's all one line above. I dropped part of it down for the 72
   character rule. As the article shows, instead of having to open
   a cygwin prompt, then issue the tunneling command, the whole thing
   can be automated with a script  a windows service started on boot.
   When the user clicks start, run, types in the IP address  enter,
   explorer will open showing them their samba shares. So, there's
   the gui they crave. ;) Hope this helps some.
   
   That is interesting to read and I will sure have a look at it, but like 
   you said, these are Windows users here. (;
   It may never fly, but I am interested in looking into this however.
   Thanks for sharing it!
   Best,
   Daniel
   
  
  Glad to help if I can. One caveat to warn you about the windows
  boxes, Daniel. I really had a hair pulling time on one  it turned
  out to be because it had M$'s tools for unix administration on it.
  It wasn't needed since cygwin was on there. I know it was running
  nfs client services which also wasn't needed, left over from before
  samba was totally incorporated across the network, and I'm not sure
  what else, so there was undoubtedly something there conflicting with
  cygrunsrv. Once the unix admin tools were uninstalled, and the box
  rebooted  the tunnel established, when the clicking start-run-
  typing in IP-enter crap was all done, the hookup was really fast.
  I'm sure if you wanted you could reverse that  get rid of cygwin
   keep the unix tools running it's sshd as a service instead, but
  I'm used to cygwin  actually kind of like it. It's helped me out
  quite a bit in the past.
  
  -- 
  
  Denny White
On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 11:17:25AM +, Stuart Henderson sez:
 while this is a way if you _must_ use SMB/CIFS, I'm not too sure if a
 combination of samba, cygwin (which users won't bother to update once
 it's installed so no security fixes) and MS loopback adapter (for some
 client-breaks-their-own-network-and-shouts-at-you fun) is really the
 simplest and most secure setup.
 

If you're not real concerned about any particular packages, cygwin
is really easy to update, just as easy as microsloth, just a few
clicks, but yeah, good point. There are probably much better ways
to do it. I just threw it in the mix as a point of interest. OTOH,
I haven't had any network breakage from the adapter, but I'm sure
it can happen. Luckily for me  the few computers on this network,
it works really well so far. I haven't had any breakage or problems
since I uninstalled the m$ tools for unix off the one box. 

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Re: Test Limerick, please ignore

[Denny White]

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On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 01:30:21PM +0100, Marc Balmer sez:
 Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:
 Darrin Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 There once was a message to test
 Repeated unto being a pest
 While marked to ignore
 It was seen more and more
 Until other begged, Give it a rest!
 
 That one needs to be included in the faq somewhere, urgently.
 
 Just Great...
 
 That has the quality to go into fortune (where we already have
 some limericks)
 

Though warned not to test on the list,
The rascal just couldn't resist.
As test messages grew,
It was found that the crew,
On misc@ were all really pissed!

Way too much time on my hands. ;) I guess that'll for sure
get an -o on the end of the fortune file.

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Re: Test Limerick, please ignore

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On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 07:38:59PM +0100, Zbigniew Baniewski sez:
 On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 10:40:06AM -0600, Denny White wrote:
 
  Though warned not to test on the list,
  The rascal just couldn't resist.
 
 If you mean me - thanks, Danny; I love you too.
 
 1. Any test messages, which I've sent, reached the list several hours (some
 even more than 24) after submission - and I had no idea at all until then,
 that it'll finally appear on the list.
 
 2. Any warnings I've received - I've received several hours *after* I've
 sent last message.
 
 3. I really don't know any other way to test, whether the mail will reach the
 list, than... to just send it to the list. Perhaps you - smart guy, as I can
 see - will tell me different way to test access to the list without sending
 anything to the list.
 
  As test messages grew,
  It was found that the crew,
  On misc@ were all really pissed!
 
 4. It's really a pity, that *all* (?) of you prefer to see my difficulties
 as some kind of bad will or list abuse; and nowhere could I see a
 message like: perhaps he needs some help?. I don't want to believe, this
 is usual attitude among OpenBSD community members. Really unbelievable.
 
 5. What a nice, helpful and kind man you are, dennyboy. Your mother should
 be so proud, indeed.
 
 Just out of curiosity: what really a difference can you see between my tests
 - and this, for example, thread, whish is just about nothing (limericks)?
 I can see at least one: I *had* to make some tests, I was in contact with
 the list admin - but you don't have to show off here, with your poetry.
 Seems, you want to.
 
 
 That's the second - and last - explaining from my side. I want to add,
 that such (over)reaction of several persons is very disappointing to me.
 -- 
   pozdrawiam / regards
 
   Zbigniew Baniewski
 

Life is full of disappointments, kiddo! Get used to it.
 
Like Darren, humor tickles my fancy,
Now it's evident it can sometimes be chancy.
You dropped quite a bomb by dissing my Mom,
Like Frank Barone says, get over it, Nancy! ;)

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XForwarding problem

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For the last couple of days I've tried everything I can think of to
make XForwarding work with ssh. As per the FAQ, I have set it like so:


In sshd_config

X11Forwarding yes


In ssh_config

ForwardAgent yes
ForwardX11 yes

I can use it passably well in one direction from a box across the
room to the one I do most of my work on. But, when I try it from
this box to the one across the room, I get the xauth error message
along with all typed characters doubled on the screen. I went ahead
anyway and typed 'display somefile.jpg' just to see what I'd get 
got this:

Xlib: connection to localhost:10.0 refused by server
Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
display: unable to open X server `localhost:10.0'.

I've read the man page on xauth(1) and experimented with its
commands. I've even wiped out the .Xauthority file on both boxes
and restarted X, to no avail. Possibly I should mention too, that
I boot on both boxes to a xdm login. I don't know if that would
have any bearing on the problem or not. Thanks for any help I
can get on this.

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Re: XForwarding problem

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On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 02:46:41AM -0700, Predrag Punosevac sez:
 Denny White wrote:
 
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 For the last couple of days I've tried everything I can think of to
 make XForwarding work with ssh. As per the FAQ, I have set it like so:
 
 
 In sshd_config
 
 X11Forwarding yes
 
 
 In ssh_config
 
 ForwardAgent yes
 ForwardX11 yes
 
 I can use it passably well in one direction from a box across the
 room to the one I do most of my work on. But, when I try it from
 this box to the one across the room, I get the xauth error message
 along with all typed characters doubled on the screen. I went ahead
 anyway and typed 'display somefile.jpg' just to see what I'd get 
 got this:
 
 Xlib: connection to localhost:10.0 refused by server
 Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
 display: unable to open X server `localhost:10.0'.
 
 I've read the man page on xauth(1) and experimented with its
 commands. I've even wiped out the .Xauthority file on both boxes
 and restarted X, to no avail. Possibly I should mention too, that
 I boot on both boxes to a xdm login. I don't know if that would
 have any bearing on the problem or not. Thanks for any help I
 can get on this.

 What happens when you try to do the following?
 
 
 Try to do remote login with as follows
 ssh -Y [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I get this:

Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11
forwarding.

And, everything I type at the prompt is doubled.
 
 you should be now in the shell on the remote host
 
 try to start x client like xdvi or xfig or something like emacs by 
 typing xdvi
 
 If xdvi pops up that means that the client is running on the remote host 
 but it is displayer on the local X server

Okay, if after getting in I try to open something like xzgv, I get:

Xlib: connection to localhost:10.0 refused by server
Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key

Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: localhost:10.0
 
Like I said earlier, I read the man page too on xauth  tried
sending

xauth extract - $DISPLAY | rsh otherhost xauth merge -

but it doesn't appear to help. I still get the error messages
and double typed characters.

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Re: XForwarding problem: SOLVED

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On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 11:41:14AM -0700, Predrag Punosevac sez:
 On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 02:46:41AM -0700, Predrag Punosevac sez:
   
 Denny White wrote:
 For the last couple of days I've tried everything I can think of to
 make XForwarding work with ssh. As per the FAQ, I have set it like so:
 
 
 In sshd_config
 
 X11Forwarding yes
 
 
 In ssh_config
 
 ForwardAgent yes
 ForwardX11 yes
 
 I can use it passably well in one direction from a box across the
 room to the one I do most of my work on. But, when I try it from
 this box to the one across the room, I get the xauth error message
 along with all typed characters doubled on the screen. I went ahead
 anyway and typed 'display somefile.jpg' just to see what I'd get 
 got this:
 
 Xlib: connection to localhost:10.0 refused by server
 Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
 display: unable to open X server `localhost:10.0'.
 
 I've read the man page on xauth(1) and experimented with its
 commands. I've even wiped out the .Xauthority file on both boxes
 and restarted X, to no avail. Possibly I should mention too, that
 I boot on both boxes to a xdm login. I don't know if that would
 have any bearing on the problem or not. Thanks for any help I
 can get on this.
   
 What happens when you try to do the following?
 
 
 Try to do remote login with as follows
 ssh -Y [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 I get this:
 
 Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11
 forwarding.
 
 And, everything I type at the prompt is doubled.
  
   
 you should be now in the shell on the remote host
 
 try to start x client like xdvi or xfig or something like emacs by 
 typing xdvi
 
 If xdvi pops up that means that the client is running on the remote host 
 but it is displayer on the local X server
 
 
 Okay, if after getting in I try to open something like xzgv, I get:
 
 Xlib: connection to localhost:10.0 refused by server
   
 Ok you do have a permission problem
 
 Read carefully man pages for sshd_config  file .  You need to uncomment 
 few lines for X tunneling.
 You can also look at the Secure Architectures with OpenBSD section 
 about OpenSSH.
 
 I do not think that the problem is with X server though.
 Best,
 Predrag
 

Yes, you were right. Operator error, it was the nut holding the
steering wheel as usual. :-)

 
 
 Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
 
 Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: localhost:10.0
  
 Like I said earlier, I read the man page too on xauth  tried
 sending
 
 xauth extract - $DISPLAY | rsh otherhost xauth merge -
 
 but it doesn't appear to help. I still get the error messages
 and double typed characters.
 
   

4AM, but that's okay. Problem solved. Had previously done some
experimenting around with ~/.profile and ~/.kshrc when I'd been
having history file problems in ksh. As soon as I reverted back
to my old ~/.profile instead of the newer short one that just
exported HISTSIZE, HISTFILE, and ENV=$HOME/.kshrc the XForwarding
problem disappeared. Don't try this at home, kids, especially at
4AM when you're not only old and senile, but tired as hell too. :-) 

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Re: tcl-8.4 and tk-8.4 manpages

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On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:05:51AM -, ?lfar M. E. Johnson sez:
 I installed tcl-8.4 and tk-8.4 which are required when installing git.  My
 question is how to get the mann directory to display in man.  I have tried
 organising tcltk in /etc/man.conf in several different ways.  Here is how I
 have it organized now.
 
 
 
 # tcltk manpages
 
 _whatdb /usr/local/lib/tcl8.4/man/whatis.db
 
 _whatdb /usr/local/lib/tk8.4/man/whatis.db
 
 _subdir {cat,man}{1,3}
 
 _build .n /usr/bin/nroff -man %s
 
 _default/usr/local/lib/{tcl8.4,tk8.4}/man/
 
 tcltk   /usr/local/lib/{tcl8.4,tk8.4}/man/
 
 1   /usr/local/lib/{tcl8.4,tk8.4}/man1
 
 3   /usr/local/lib/{tcl8.4,tk8.4}/man3
 
 n   /usr/local/lib/{tcl8.4,tk8.4}/mann
 
 
 
 Example I can  man -s tcltk 3 Tcl_RecordAndEval and the man page comes up
 normal.  I can also  man Tk_GetVisual or man -s tcltk 3 Tk_GetVisual and the
 manpages come up normal.  Using man -k tk and here I will show some of the
 display from that command:
 
  tk_messageBox (n) - pops up a message window and waits for user response.
 
 tk_optionMenu (n) - Create an option menubutton and its menu
 
 tk_popup (n) - Post a popup menu
 
 tk_setPalette, tk_bisque (n) - Modify the Tk color palette
 
 tkerror (n) - Command invoked to process background errors
 
 tkvars (n) - Variables used or set by Tk
 
 tkwait (n) - Wait for variable to change or window to be destroyed
 
 
 
 I would like to be able to display man pages for the (n) section.  ie. man -s
 tcltk n tkwait or man n tkwait
 
 As is now when I try to display commands in the (n) section I get results like
 this:  -bash-3.2$ man n tkwait
 
 man: no entry for tkwait in section n of the manual.
 
 man -s tcltk n tkwait
 
 man: no entry for n in section tcltk of the manual.
 
 man: no entry for tkwait in section tcltk of the manual.
 
 
 
 Please enlighten me.
 
 
 Zlfar M. E. Johnson
 Sk}rr
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 569 5100
 http://www.skyrr.is
 http://www.skyrr.is
 http://www.skyrr.is/legal/disclaimer.txt
 http://www.skyrr.is/legal/disclaimer.txt
 

I tried a bunch of crap in other sections of man.conf  never could
get the n stuff to display. So, I added right at the very end of

 # Specific section/directory combinations.

n   /usr/local/lib/{tcl8.4,tk8.4}/{man/mann/}

When you want to read a man page from that section, just remember to
plug in the 'n' before the man page. Like

man n tk_textCopy

There's probably a better way to do it, but I don't know how. At least
this works.

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Re: [Invitation] Almighty GOD never forsake his people @ Fri Apr 4 05:00 - 06:00 ()

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On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 07:59:26AM -0700, Darrin Chandler sez:
 On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 09:52:39AM +0200, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:
  Darrin Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   Dude! This is covered in the archives, FAQ, and man pages!
  
  hm. 
  
  $ man god
  man: no entry for god in the manual.
 
 I neglected to mention that not everything is included in the base
 system. pkg_add enlightenment may help.
 
 -- 
 Darrin Chandler|  Phoenix BSD User Group  |  MetaBUG
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]   |  http://phxbug.org/  |  http://metabug.org/
 http://www.stilyagin.com/  |  Daemons in the Desert   |  Global BUG Federation
 

Don't forget from the OpenBSD sutra:

Oh Sariputra, windows does not differ from emptiness, emptiness does
not differ from windows -- that which is windows is emptiness, that
which is emptiness is windows.

So proclaim the OpenBSD paramita, saying,
Gate, gate, paraOpenBSD, parasamOpenBSD. Oh, Packet Filter. Swaha!

For those not versed in Sanskrit,  to save Googling  poring over
man pages,

Gone, gone, gone to OpenBSD, gone altogether to OpenBSD.
 Oh Packet Filter! Oh joy!



Denny White

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Re: USB Scanner question

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Today Antoine Jacoutot had this to say:


Selon Denny White [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

team. :-) I know the obsd os supports scanners, but I can't
seem to find a good recommendation. I also don't understand


OpenBSD should support pretty much any scanner that SANE supports.


 backends, but it's not in my /usr/ports/graphics. Is this
because I'm running _3_8  not current, or could I be doing


Yes, sane-{backends,frontends} was imported after 3.8 was released.


GENERIC kernel with very little change. I think the only change
I did to it was to enable DUMMY_NOPS which it comments as


You're running an unsupported kernel.


So, just need some input on any luck anyone has had with usb scanners.


I, for one, am very happy with my Epson USB scanner. I can scan via USB
and via the LAN too.


Any input greatly appreciated.


If you want to install SANE on OpenBSD, you can either :
- grab the -current port and try to complile it under 3.8 (unsupported,
don't ask questions if you have problems)
- wait for 3.9 to be released
- upgrade to -current

Hope that helps

--
Antoine




Yep, helps a lot. I kind of figured I'd need to either run
current or else wait for 3.9 which, the latter, is what
I'm going to do. Time to preorder. :-) Thanks, Antoine.
That cleared things up.
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Re: USB Scanner question

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Today Antoine Jacoutot had this to say:


Selon Denny White [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Yep, helps a lot. I kind of figured I'd need to either run
current or else wait for 3.9 which, the latter, is what
I'm going to do. Time to preorder. :-) Thanks, Antoine.
That cleared things up.


Glad I could be of some help.
As a matter of fact, I'm the SANE port maintainer for OpenBSD, so don't hesitate
to bug me if you have any problem making it work under this OS.

Bye...

--
Antoine




I'm sorely tempted to try building the current port while still
running _3_8, or,  probably better all around, upgrading to current.
I know 3.9's not coming until May. Just preordered it, but I hate
waiting. :-) Have an old HP 3400C usb scanner that's listed as complete
at the sane site. Probably the only thing holding me back is just how
smooth my obsd system's working. Hate to do anything to screw it up. I'm
not a developer, programmer, or any kind of guru. Just love obsd, the
security it provides, and the relative ease of installing  maintaining
it for a relative newbie. I guess the worst that could happen would be the
port would fail to build  I'd just have to do a make clean. Or, it'd
build  then not run properly and, I'd just have to uninstall it  hope
it'd uninstall properly. Any thoughts on this, let me know. And, once
again, thanks for the answer  the info.
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Re: USB Scanner question

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Today Antoine Jacoutot had this to say:


On Fri, 17 Mar 2006, Denny White wrote:


it for a relative newbie. I guess the worst that could happen would be the
port would fail to build  I'd just have to do a make clean. Or, it'd
build  then not run properly and, I'd just have to uninstall it  hope
it'd uninstall properly. Any thoughts on this, let me know. And, once
again, thanks for the answer  the info.


I personnally run this port under one of my 3.8 computers with no problem.
But, this is unsupported and might not work, YMMV.

Anyway, this you won't destroy your system in trying.

--
Antoine



Won't have to worry about it now. Made a bad assumption about
the HP 3400C. Thought it still worked. Won't even power up on
the windoze box now. Maybe something happened to it during
Hurricane Katrina. Hard to say. Anyways, guess it's off to eBay
and see what I can find, esp among the Epson offerings. They're
the best supported, it seems. Epson's web site has decent clearance
deals, too. Thanks, Antoine.
Denny White

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Re: openbsd and the money

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thankless?  you sir, are the most thankless project leader
i have ever seen in my life.


We thank with code.  We don't come shower people with nice words.
We write code.


i have been advocating openbsd since the 2.6 times
and buying cds/shirts/posters since i started making
money.  wim can tell you that, we mail a lot, because
except one time, all my stuff was always late :)
oh, and my 3.8 poster is still not here (sorry wim).


Advocacy is a way that our user community can help themselves,
because it means that we can keep writing code.

Oh, I thought you said something nice above, but you managed
to sneak in even more complaining.


i raise controversial issues on misc@ i admit that,
some might even call it flaming, i call it food for
thought.  people pretend some questions/issues dont
exist or they just don't ask it, because they get
attacked.


It is not food for thought.  It is just you showing that you
believe that when we write something, and then you show thanks
to us, we should show thanks back to you.  That makes no sense.
If you wish for us to spend our time thanking people for thanking
us, rather than writing more code, you have got it all wrong.


_i_ started this thread because _i_ think you and some


NO.  You started this thread because you like to hear
yourself talk.  There is NOTHING else going on, except
for you liking the sound of your own voice, and your own
dissatisfied keystrokes.  If you are so dissatisfied with the
things that we do for you, PLEASE stop using them.  Go find
someone else who can satisfy you.


of devs are not thankful, that you flame us till we
burn but accept our money.  and now you say _i_ am not
thankful.  sir, you are a master of words.


No, we only flame losers who whine, whine, WHINE, and then a
week later keep WHINING.  You guys keep giving us software!
But you never say nice words! You suck!.

It is whining.  It is NOTHING but whining.


i am a man of principles just as you. so i do what
i believe in.  just like you.


You are not a man.  You are a whiny child who thinks that
they should get their software, for free, and then when the
nice words are not included they can spend a few minutes to
make personal attacks on the people who spent hundreds and
thousands of hours writing it.

Maybe you are not even a man, because I know whiny children
who are nicer than you.


but somehow we always end up at the wrong wavelength.
you will not believe, but it is not my intention.


The frequency and amplitude of your whining is just too much
for us.  Please stop it immediately.

Just shut up!




Amen to the shutup! Thank you, Theo, for OpenBSD. I have
been a windoze lazyass for years. OpenBSD has made me put
on my thinking cap again. They say that keeps you young.
Hope so, cause I'm getting old. Bought cd's  a t-shirt.
Nice about the donations page, too. Will remember to do
so every time I get some extra dough. Anything to keep
you guys writing the great code you do. Ignore the whiners!
Some may misconstrue this as ass kissing, but it's sincere.
Thanks to you  the other developers, I'm almost weaned off
insecure, expensive M$, as soon as my scanner gets here from
eBay. Talked to one of the guys in the MIS dept the other night
at the casino where I work,  told him some of the stuff I
was doing with OpenBSD, esp with network printing  security.
Apparently, they're doing the same thing there. I have no
influence there at all, except for what bugs I can plant in
their ears, like the fellow above. I will continue to do so,
every chance I get. Nobody's more money hungry, probably, than
casinos, but hey, you never know. Maybe they'll spring for some
paid for subscriptions. Thanks again for the great project. As
for me, no thanks needed or expected from you or the others. 
The project is more than enough thanks.

Denny White
Biloxi, MS

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ssh login screen blank problem

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Running OpenBSD 3.9 on 2 boxes  winxp on the other box.
I can ssh from the windows box to either obsd box okay.
I can ssh from either one of the obsd boxes to the other
okay. I can ssh from either obsd box to the windows box
okay while in xwindows from xterm. But, when I try to ssh
in from either obsd box to the windows box from a regular
terminal window, I get in, but after that, the screen is
blank. Only way to get the terminal window back is to exit
all the way out, not just from the ssh login to windows
box, but all the way out, and then log back on to the obsd
box. I've googled for hours, read up on ttys  cygwin, and
am coming up blank. Just trying to find out if anyone else
has encountered this problem  what they did to solve it.
Had another box running FreeBSD 5.4 with identical ttys set
up and was able to login to the windows box from a terminal
window okay. Thanks for any help.

Denny White

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Epson 1200 Scanner problem

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Epson 1200 scanner worked great until a few days ago. Shut
all boxes down for a bad thunderstorm blowing through. Later
when I turned this box on with the scanner, scanimage -L no
longer picked it up, although it showed up in dmesg with
uscanner0 as usual. I was able to run

scanimage -d epson:/dev/uscanner
and get it to scan, but the gimp no longer could acquire it.
Thinking maybe something happened during the storm, like a
surge somewhere, I hooked the scanner up to my xp box and it
worked fine, went through its warmup, scanned okay, etc. Hooked
it back up to this box running obsd 3.9. Immediate message at
the terminal when you connect/disconnect it. Tried disabling
uscanner in the kernel and setting epson.conf to use libusb with

usb 0x04b8 0x0104.

When I use sane-find-scanner I get

found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON], product=0x0104
[Perfection1200]) at libusb:/dev/usb0:/dev/ugen0
# Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be
# supported by SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage.

where before I disabled uscanner, sane-find-scanner couldn't find
it. Scanimage -L still doesn't find it. And, scanimage with the
- -d switch  info no longer works. When this problem first started,
I hadn't changed the kernel or rebuilt userland for quite a while,
so it's not that I changed something in the system to cause it.
Since, however, I have tried updating my source code, rebuilding
everything, reinstalling sane-backends and frontends, but to no
avail. Included my dmesg below, hoping someone would see something
I'd missed. Any ideas very welcome.

Denny White
- ---dmesg follows
OpenBSD 3.9-stable (GENERIC) #1: Mon Jul 17 10:40:42 CDT 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class) 801 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
real mem  = 268017664 (261736K)
avail mem = 237563904 (231996K)
using 3297 buffers containing 13504512 bytes (13188K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(f4) BIOS, date 07/19/02, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfb140
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
apm0: flags 70102 dobusy 1 doidle 1
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0xdf84
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdef0/112 (5 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 9 10 11
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 (Intel 82371SB ISA rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 0xc8000/0x800
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82815 Hub rev 0x04
ppb0 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA AGP rev 0x05
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 5 function 0 3DFX Interactive Voodoo3 rev 0x01
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
fxp0 at pci1 dev 8 function 0 Intel 82562 rev 0x03, i82562: irq 11, address 
00:01:80:0b:76:77
inphy0 at fxp0 phy 1: i82562ET 10/100 PHY, rev. 0
xl0 at pci1 dev 10 function 0 3Com 3c905C 100Base-TX rev 0x78: irq 11, 
address 00:01:03:1a:2f:21
bmtphy0 at xl0 phy 24: Broadcom 3C905C internal PHY, rev. 7
ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801BA LPC rev 0x05
pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801BA IDE rev 0x05: DMA, channel 0 
wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: WDC WD400BB-00AUA1
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 38166MB, 78165360 sectors
wd1 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 1: WDC WD300BB-00AUA1
wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 28629MB, 58633344 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
wd1(pciide0:0:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: HP, CD-Writer+ 9500b, 1.06 SCSI0 5/cdrom 
removable
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2
uhci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801BA USB rev 0x05: irq 10
usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 Intel 82801BA SMBus rev 0x05: irq 9
iic0 at ichiic0
uhci1 at pci0 dev 31 function 4 Intel 82801BA USB rev 0x05: irq 9
usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
auich0 at pci0 dev 31 function 5 Intel 82801BA AC97 rev 0x05: irq 9, ICH2 AC97
ac97: codec id 0x41445360 (Analog Devices AD1885)
ac97: codec features headphone, Analog Devices Phat Stereo
audio0 at auich0
isa0 at ichpcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pmsi0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot
wsmouse0 at pmsi0 mux 0
pcppi0 at isa0 port

Re: Epson 1200 Scanner problem

[Denny White]

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Epson 1200 scanner worked great until a few days ago. Shut
all boxes down for a bad thunderstorm blowing through. Later
when I turned this box on with the scanner, scanimage -L no
longer picked it up, although it showed up in dmesg with
uscanner0 as usual. I was able to run

scanimage -d epson:/dev/uscanner
and get it to scan, but the gimp no longer could acquire it.
Thinking maybe something happened during the storm, like a
surge somewhere, I hooked the scanner up to my xp box and it
worked fine, went through its warmup, scanned okay, etc. Hooked
it back up to this box running obsd 3.9. Immediate message at
the terminal when you connect/disconnect it. Tried disabling
uscanner in the kernel and setting epson.conf to use libusb with

usb 0x04b8 0x0104.

When I use sane-find-scanner I get

found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON], product=0x0104
[Perfection1200]) at libusb:/dev/usb0:/dev/ugen0
# Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be
# supported by SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage.

where before I disabled uscanner, sane-find-scanner couldn't find
it. Scanimage -L still doesn't find it. And, scanimage with the
-d switch  info no longer works. When this problem first started,
I hadn't changed the kernel or rebuilt userland for quite a while,
so it's not that I changed something in the system to cause it.
Since, however, I have tried updating my source code, rebuilding
everything, reinstalling sane-backends and frontends, but to no
avail. Included my dmesg below, hoping someone would see something
I'd missed. Any ideas very welcome.

Denny White
---dmesg follows
OpenBSD 3.9-stable (GENERIC) #1: Mon Jul 17 10:40:42 CDT 2006
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class) 801 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE

real mem  = 268017664 (261736K)
avail mem = 237563904 (231996K)
using 3297 buffers containing 13504512 bytes (13188K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(f4) BIOS, date 07/19/02, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfb140
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
apm0: flags 70102 dobusy 1 doidle 1
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0xdf84
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdef0/112 (5 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 9 10 11
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 (Intel 82371SB ISA rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 0xc8000/0x800
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82815 Hub rev 0x04
ppb0 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA AGP rev 0x05
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 5 function 0 3DFX Interactive Voodoo3 rev 0x01
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
fxp0 at pci1 dev 8 function 0 Intel 82562 rev 0x03, i82562: irq 11, address 
00:01:80:0b:76:77

inphy0 at fxp0 phy 1: i82562ET 10/100 PHY, rev. 0
xl0 at pci1 dev 10 function 0 3Com 3c905C 100Base-TX rev 0x78: irq 11, 
address 00:01:03:1a:2f:21

bmtphy0 at xl0 phy 24: Broadcom 3C905C internal PHY, rev. 7
ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801BA LPC rev 0x05
pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801BA IDE rev 0x05: DMA, channel 
0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility

wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: WDC WD400BB-00AUA1
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 38166MB, 78165360 sectors
wd1 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 1: WDC WD300BB-00AUA1
wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 28629MB, 58633344 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
wd1(pciide0:0:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: HP, CD-Writer+ 9500b, 1.06 SCSI0 5/cdrom 
removable

cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2
uhci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801BA USB rev 0x05: irq 10
usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 Intel 82801BA SMBus rev 0x05: irq 9
iic0 at ichiic0
uhci1 at pci0 dev 31 function 4 Intel 82801BA USB rev 0x05: irq 9
usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
auich0 at pci0 dev 31 function 5 Intel 82801BA AC97 rev 0x05: irq 9, ICH2 
AC97

ac97: codec id 0x41445360 (Analog Devices AD1885)
ac97: codec features headphone, Analog Devices Phat Stereo
audio0 at auich0
isa0 at ichpcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pmsi0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot
wsmouse0 at pmsi0 mux 0
pcppi0 at isa0

Re: web based FTP client?

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On Jul 19 FTP wrote:

On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 12:43:39PM -0500, Eric Pancer wrote:

On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 19:22:00 +0200, FTP wrote...


is any 'good' web based ftp client around which can run in chrooted Apache?


Runs in chroot'ed apachehrmm...methinks you are new to all of this,
right? Maybe you should contact your local sysadmin and ask him the explain
how things work between client, server, and where things are run.

If you mean that a client executable served back from a webserver, thats
easy: it'd be a non-executable object under any document root.


Thanks for your help


If you have a browser, you have an FTP client.

However, FTP over HTTP is the major suck.




the browser itself is only for anonymous ftp :-( I actually wanted FTP over HTTP

Thanks

George




I use mozilla-firefox with the fireftp extension. Works
fine, fast. Authenticated logins. I know, I u/l stuff to
my account on my isp. No need to get your sysadmin all
in a dither. ;)

Denny White

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serial console question

[Denny White]

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I've hunted around the archives, googled, read
the faq on serial consoles, read what's in my
copy of Absolute OpenBSd, but can't seem to
find what I need to fix my problem. Running obsd
3.9 on one box  obsd 3.8 on an ancient p90.
I connected my nullmodem cable to #1 serial
connection on each box. I've got the regular
suggested settings in ttys, that is:
tty00   /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 vt100   on  secure.
I know about the security problem with 'secure' but
this is just on my lan, for learning purposes. I
also tried different baud rates and vt settings,
but the same thing happens each time. After I
connect from the client box with 'tip tty00'  I
type 'set tty com0'on the other box, the display comes
up on the client box really weird, spread out across
the screen  wrapping,  more often than not, after
a few minutes, it starts making a continuous alarm
sound and you can't enter anything else in. I have
gotten as far as logging in a couple of times, but
not too many. Even after hitting ~. to disconnect,
most of the time you can't reboot in the proper manner.
It'll get as far as 'syncing'  that's it. It just hangs.
One box are the other has to be reset  then the other
box will finish syncing  reboot.
My friend told me that problems like that usually
are caused by the fifo,  that I should disable it,
but I haven't figured out how to do it. I looked at
GENERIC and see the pccom settings but nothing about
disabling fifo. I did boot -c  saw pccom in there,
but again, I don't know what to do about it. I was
wondering too, if it's a problem between the video cards.

vga1 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 Matrox MGA Millenium 2064W
(Storm) rev 0x01
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)

vga1 at pci1 dev 5 function 0 3DFX Interactive Voodoo3 rev 0x01
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)

But, from the looks of it, I don't see how.  This message
is already long, but if anyone wants me to put in both
dmesgs, let me know. Thanks for any help, advice, links,
etc, I can get to help me fix this.

Denny White

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Re: serial console question

[Denny White]

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Today Nick Holland wrote:

Denny White wrote:

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I've hunted around the archives, googled, read
the faq on serial consoles, read what's in my
copy of Absolute OpenBSd, but can't seem to
find what I need to fix my problem. Running obsd
3.9 on one box  obsd 3.8 on an ancient p90.
I connected my nullmodem cable to #1 serial
connection on each box. I've got the regular
suggested settings in ttys, that is:
tty00/usr/libexec/getty std.9600vt100on  secure.


You did that on ONLY ONE BOX, right?
ONLY the box you are trying to use the serial console on, NOT the box that is 
running tip(1).


(trust me, you don't want to do this on both boxes, then run tip on one of 
them...  In fact, don't assume, go check it.  Really.  I know this is a 
potential issue because I once forgot I had set a machine up for a serial 
terminal...then months later, tried to use it as the terminal for a machine 
with a serial console.  ugly.)



I know about the security problem with 'secure' but
this is just on my lan, for learning purposes. I
also tried different baud rates and vt settings,
but the same thing happens each time. After I
connect from the client box with 'tip tty00'  I
type 'set tty com0'on the other box, the display comes
up on the client box really weird, spread out across
the screen  wrapping,  more often than not, after
a few minutes, it starts making a continuous alarm
sound and you can't enter anything else in. I have
gotten as far as logging in a couple of times, but
not too many. Even after hitting ~. to disconnect,
most of the time you can't reboot in the proper manner.
It'll get as far as 'syncing'  that's it. It just hangs.
One box are the other has to be reset  then the other
box will finish syncing  reboot.
My friend told me that problems like that usually
are caused by the fifo,  that I should disable it,


Your friend is wrong, I do think.
If anything, that would make things worse, not better.  FIFOs on serial ports 
are your friend, at least if properly implemented.  Yes, some HW vendors have 
been known to screw it up.  Disabling isn't the right answer, though...new 
hardware is a better plan.


Once Again, a dmesg would have been nice.


but I haven't figured out how to do it. I looked at
GENERIC and see the pccom settings but nothing about
disabling fifo. I did boot -c  saw pccom in there,
but again, I don't know what to do about it. I was
wondering too, if it's a problem between the video cards.


more likely to be a problem with the color of the case.
(i.e., no, it's not the video cards).

Assuming you didn't alter /etc/ttys on both machines, you need a third vote. 
A wild guess, based on a lack of hard information, is that you have a machine 
running out of spec.  Which one?  No idea.  Could be the old P90 (age) or the 
newer machine (cheap junk), or both a little out of spec in different 
directions. That's why you need a third machine to try, and see who can talk 
to what.  It sounds like you are doing things pretty close to right, 
otherwise, you would not have logged in at all.


I'm more suspicious of changes made to /etc/ttys on the terminal machine, 
though.


Nick.




You hit it right on the head, Nick. I had it set in ttys
on both boxes, and yes, it was UGLY! ;) My friend, BTW,
doesn't run any BSD's, nix's, just windows, although he's
done some serial stuff with his ham setup. Sorry for the
bother. Should've read a little more closely. Working
perfectly now. I did experiment with a faster baud rate
after I got it working with your advice, again not really
knowing what I was up to. ;) Won't do that again. 9600 is
fine. I wanted to make some use of the old box. It's a
really old Prioris XL 590DP server given to my friend.
It was left over after Katrina wiped out the office it
was in. Surprisingly enough, the only thing bad in it
was one scsi hd. Sorry for not putting dmesgs in before.
Thanks for bailing me out, Nick.

Denny White

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Re: {ftp3,anoncvs3}.usa.openbsd.org outage?

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On 11/14/06, Ben Calvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

plier.ucar.edu ( {ftp3,anoncvs3}.usa.openbsd.org ) has been down for the
last several days.  Does anyone know if this is a permanent or
temporary outage?

scanning the anoncvs mirror list at
http://www.openbsd.org/anoncvs.html#CVSROOT i notice that at least one
other mirror is pulling from anoncvs3.usa,

Thanks,

ben



Today Jason Crawford wrote:


I talked with Todd earlier today, hard disk failure, he's currently
working on getting everything back up.



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I think what we need to do is convince people who live in the lands
they live in to build the nations.

George W. Bush
October 11, 2000
Presidential Debate -- Winston-Salem, North Carolina.





Should read my own damned sys messages more often. ;)
Glad someone commented on this. As of the date in the
script output below, today i.e., still nothing. Thanks
too, for the harddrive failure update. Now no urgent
need to change my supfile knowing that info.

Script started on Tue Nov 14 15:01:47 2006
# cvsup -g -L 2 obsd-supfile
Parsing supfile obsd-supfile
Connecting to anoncvs3.usa.openbsd.org
Cannot connect to anoncvs3.usa.openbsd.org: Connection refused
Will retry at 15:07:11
^C
# ^D
Script done on Tue Nov 14 15:02:17 2006



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Re: Editing C with...

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Quoted from Girish Venkatachalam on Sun, May 04, 2008 at 04:18:10AM +0530,:
 On 13:51:58 May 03, Robert C Wittig wrote:
 
  vi/vim.
 
  I use it for most of my editing tasks, not just writing C code.
 
 I use vim since it enhances my coding speed in a big way.
 
 As to KNF I guess it is just a habit that I want to inculcate for all my
 C coding. Right now it is voluntary and occasionally painful but I don't
 want to lose the chance to make it automatic by going in for a tool.
 
 I am bowled over by vim's knowledge of config file syntax and the way it
 highlights various keywords. That way I can afford to be a bit lazy with
 certain programming languages or even config file directives. It would
 highlight typos in a different color.
 
 Occasionally vim does  go wrong however but so far it has not affected
 me.
 
 I type out this mail with vim and it helps me appear good since I have
 auto spell check on. With bad keyboards I tend to make silly typos and
 vim can save my day by highlighting it and alerting me. 
 
 Of course I would not be so much in love with vim but for its vi key
 bindings. 
 
 As to power editing you should really read the short and sweet document
 written by the author of vim Bram Moolenaar.
 
 (If someone can locate it for me I shall be obliged. ;)


 He emphasizes how the steep learning curve experienced by vi learners
 are paid back in full in due course of time. I can vouch for it. So what
 if it is counter intuitive in the beginning?
 
 So what if it is sometimes tougher than emacs? Once you use it every time
 you create a document be it LaTeX or e-mail or source code or config
 file editing, you stick to one editor and that according to me is an
 amazing convenience.
 
 Its ability to read and write files makes it even more powerful of
 course. And the output of commands.
 
 Hope this helps. That said choice is yours as always. ;)
 
 Open source is a democratic world. ;)
 
 -Girish
 

You might check here for the article you spoke of:

http://www.moolenaar.net/vim.html


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vnode swap question

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I've followed faq 14.4 on setting up a permanent swap.  I've rebuilt the kernel 
with:

config  bsd root on wd0a swap on wd0b and vnd0c dumps on wd0b

Then I created the actual swap file:

sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/var/swap bs=1k count=262144

I added the info to fstab:

/dev/vnd0c none swap sw 0 0 

Then, as per the faq, I rebooted.

Then I did

sudo vnconfig -c -v vnd0 /var/swap 

and got

vnd0: 268435456 bytes on /var/swap 

Then I did:

sudo swapctl -a /dev/vnd0c

And then:

swapctl -l
Device  512-blocks UsedAvail Capacity  Priority
swap_device41952960  4195296 0%0
/data2/swap20971520  2097152 0%0
/dev/vnd0c  5242880   524288 0%0
Total  68167360  6816736 0%

Everything's fine at that point. But, when I reboot, I have
to repeat the commands

sudo vnconfig -c -v vnd0 /var/swap
sudo swapctl -a /dev/vnd0c

in order to get the extra swap back again. I thought from reading
the faq that it becomes permanent, but I can't get it to. Can
someone maybe point out if they see something I'm doing wrong?

Thanks.


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Re: Screen,colorls,xterms issue. 4.2

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Quoted from Jesus Sanchez on Sun, May 11, 2008 at 03:59:17AM +0200,:  Stuart 
Henderson escribis:  On 2008-05-10, Jesus Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
   
 I have set an alias for ls='colorls -GF' (color output) and this causes
 the problems on a screen session. I have set the TERM=xterm-color on
 my /etc/profile.
 
 
 Why do that? That will override the correct terminal configuration
 and send control codes suitable for an xterm to terminals that can't
 handle it, like screen.
 
   
 So, what TERM variable should I use ?
 
 -Jesus
 

Somehow I lost the original message, probably with a fat finger,
so replying to this one. Here's the section of my .Xdefaults
pertaining to xterm and rxvt:

rxvt*loginShell:true
rxvt*transparent:true
rxvt*shading:40
rxvt*background:Black
rxvt*foreground:Cyan
rxvt*scrollBar:true
rxvt*scrollBar_right:true
rxvt*transpscrollbar:true
rxvt*saveLines:32767
rxvt*termName:rxvt

include: XTerm
XTerm.termName: nxterm
XTerm*font: -schumacher-clean-medium-*-normal-*-13-*-*-75-*-60-*-*
*VT100*colorMode: on
*VT100*boldColors: on
*VT100*dynamicColors: on
*VT100*foreground: cyan
*VT100*background: gray15
*VT100*colorULMode: on
*VT100*colorUL: yellow
*VT100*underLine: on
*VT100*colorBDMode: on
*VT100*colorBD: yellow3
*VT100*color0: black
*VT100*color1: red3
*VT100*color2: green3
*VT100*color3: yellow3
*VT100*color4: blue2
*VT100*color5: magenta3
*VT100*color6: cyan3
*VT100*color7: gray90
*VT100*color8: gray50
*VT100*color9: red
*VT100*color10: green
*VT100*color11: yellow
*VT100*color12: rgb:5c/5c/ff
*VT100*color13: magenta
*VT100*color14: cyan
*VT100*color15: white
*VT100*color16: gray15

#if PLANES  8
! Color the popup menus and the menubar to match:
*SimpleMenu.*.background: AntiqueWhite
*SimpleMenu.*.foreground: gray15

*VT100.scrollbar.thumb: vlines2
*VT100.scrollbar.width: 14
*VT100.scrollbar.background:gray60
*VT100.scrollbar.foreground:rgb:a/5/5
*VT100.scrollbar.borderWidth:   2
!*VT100.scrollbar.displayList:\
#endif

Set the colors according to your personal taste. I have no problem
with the term value in the env like that, either in xterm or rxvt.
For that matter, there's no conflict either with Eterm. And I can
run screen from all of them without any conflicts.

And, like some of the other messages mentioned, use wsvt25 in ttys.
Also, in my .kshrc file, I have the section commented out like so:

#if [ -x /usr/bin/tset ]; then
#   eval `/usr/bin/tset -sQ \vt220`
#fi

The ttys and .Xdefaults settings takes care of all of that. Hope
this helps you some. Marc Espie made a good point too, in his reply.
Leave the system config files alone as much as possible, especially
while you're learning. If you can't, at least back up the original.
Anytime you can use an 'rc' file in $HOME do it. It's kind of like
leaving /etc/rc.conf alone and putting your stuff in /etc/rc.local
and rc.conf.local.


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Re: bsdanywhere

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Quoted from Pau on Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 07:42:08PM +0200,:
 a nice thing to test hardware and get dmesg
 
 http://bsdanywhere.org/
 
 Of course, I guess that booting the obsd installer cd is much faster
 and you get also dmesg
 but this is an interesting alternative
 

Thanks for the effort and contribution to the OpenBSD community.
Linked you at

http://polarwave.openbsd101.com/links.html
http://polarwave.blogspot.com

Denny White

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Re: ROOTBACKUP=1 no backup done

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Quoted from Gabri Mate on Sun, Jul 06, 2008 at 02:25:55AM +0200,:
 Hey There List,
 
 I've made an /altroot partition, exactly the same size as my /, and it
 is also mounted. I've put ROOTBACKUP=1 in root's crontab, but my /
 partition doesn't get dumped on /altroot at the daily cron's run. I have
 4.3 release.
 Is there something i'm missing?
 --
 Gabri Mate
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]
 

Read this portion of /etc/daily:

# If ROOTBACKUP is set to 1 in the environment, and
# if filesystem named /altroot is type ffs, on /dev/* and mounted xx,
# use it as a backup root filesystem to be updated daily.

And, if you read fstab(5) you'll see this:

If fs_type is specified as ``xx'' the entry is ignored.

So, fs_type should be xx in your fstab, right? You didn't include
your fstab, but that sounds like what the problem is; i.e., you
don't have that in yours and altroot is mounting normally.



Denny White

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vietnamese and unicode text

[Denny White]

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I found a program, VietPad, to type Vietnamese with the necessary
diacritics. I couldn't get it to work completely until I found out
about mlterm's capabilities, so I installed mlterm and now I can
enter and properly display the diacritics. Now I'm trying to find
out how to print the text files VietPad creates, since its output
is unicode. Can someone point me in the right direction for either
being able to print it as is, convert it and then print it, or if
there's a better way from the get go to type Vietnamese? I've tried
x-unikey without much success, and never could compile xvnkb. As
things stand, I can print from VietPad, but of course it's a jumble.
The printer is an ancient Star 2410 dot-matrix, but it handles the
Vietnamese diacritics fine from the one windows box I still have,
printed via samba/cups on my OpenBSD box. Also, I failed to mention
VietPad is a jar file which runs with 'java -jar VietPad.jar'. Don't
know if that makes any difference, but, I thought I should mention
it just in case. Thanks for any help I can get on this. It is, in
fact, the only reason I still have to have a windows box at all,
since it's easy to do there with another program I have. Still
trying to break free completely.


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Re: [OOT] Can't browse http://www.xs4all.nl/~wpd/symon/ and http://www.benzedrine.cx/pfstat.html

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Quoted from Insan Praja SW on Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 08:21:28AM +0700,:
 Hi Misc@,
 Did anyone had difficulities accessing/browsing this sites? I'm trying to 
 get a hold on symon, syweb dan pfstat, but I can't seem to access/browse 
 from my network (20x.x0.1x4.0/23).
 Sorry for the noise,
 Thanks,


 Insan
 -- 
 insandotpraja(at)gmaildotcom


No problem here. Accessed all menu links including downloads fine.


Denny White

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console switching problem from desktop

[Denny White]

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There are actually 2 problems. First one is, when using
ctrl-alt-f1  so forth, it goes to the other console fine,
but when I try to switch back, all I see on the screen is
the output from the underlying x rather than the desktop.
The other problem is, when I'm on the desktop in an xterm
window, it's as though the settings in .profile like my
aliases I have setup, aren't recognized, like they're not
in the current environment settings. I never had anything
like this happen when running 3.9. Now, on 4.0, I did a
clean install, started having the problem, moved to stable,
now current. Problem is still there. Right now I have 2
extra consoles configured in rc.local.conf but it was the
same before I added them. I thought I had sent this message
2 days ago, but it never showed up in my daily mail, so, if
it did go through  I didn't get it for some reason, sorry.
Also, I did read everything I could think of  google all
over, trying to find some info on this problem. I've worked
on it for 2 days now, but I'm just not getting anywhere.
Don't know if it'll help, but I'm including some system info
below. It's a big message, but I tried to include anything I
could think of that'd help.
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OpenBSD 4.0-current (GENERIC) #2: Thu Dec 14 03:37:12 CST 2006
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class) 802 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
real mem  = 268005376 (261724K)
avail mem = 236601344 (231056K)
using 3302 buffers containing 13524992 bytes (13208K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(f4) BIOS, date 07/19/02, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfb140, 
SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0800 (35 entries)
bios0: Concentric 1234
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
apm0: flags 70102 dobusy 1 doidle 1
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0xdf84
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdef0/112 (5 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 9 10 11
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 (Intel 82371SB ISA rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 0xc8000/0x800
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82815 Hub rev 0x04
ppb0 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA AGP rev 0x05
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 5 function 0 3DFX Interactive Voodoo3 rev 0x01
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
fxp0 at pci1 dev 8 function 0 Intel 82562 rev 0x03, i82562: irq 11, address 
00:01:80:0b:76:77
inphy0 at fxp0 phy 1: i82562ET 10/100 PHY, rev. 0
xl0 at pci1 dev 10 function 0 3Com 3c905C 100Base-TX rev 0x78: irq 11, 
address 00:01:03:1a:2f:21
bmtphy0 at xl0 phy 24: Broadcom 3C905C internal PHY, rev. 7
ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801BA LPC rev 0x05
pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801BA IDE rev 0x05: DMA, channel 0 
wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: WDC WD400BB-00AUA1
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 38166MB, 78165360 sectors
wd1 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 1: WDC WD300BB-00AUA1
wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 28629MB, 58633344 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
wd1(pciide0:0:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: HP, CD-Writer+ 9500b, 1.06 SCSI0 5/cdrom 
removable
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2
uhci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801BA USB rev 0x05: irq 10
usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 Intel 82801BA SMBus rev 0x05: irq 9
iic0 at ichiic0
uhci1 at pci0 dev 31 function 4 Intel 82801BA USB rev 0x05: irq 11
usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
auich0 at pci0 dev 31 function 5 Intel 82801BA AC97 rev 0x05: irq 9, ICH2 AC97
ac97: codec id 0x41445360 (Analog Devices AD1885)
ac97: codec features headphone, Analog Devices Phat Stereo
audio0 at auich0
isa0 at ichpcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pmsi0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot
wsmouse0 at pmsi0 mux 0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker
spkr0 at pcppi0
lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7
lm0 at isa0 port 0x290/8: W83627HF
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16
pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
pccom1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2
fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 80 

Re: console switching problem from desktop

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Today Jeremy Huiskamp wrote:

On 15-Dec-06, at 8:42 PM, Denny White wrote:


There are actually 2 problems. First one is, when using
ctrl-alt-f1  so forth, it goes to the other console fine,
but when I try to switch back, all I see on the screen is
the output from the underlying x rather than the desktop.


http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq7.html#SwitchConsole


Okay, thanks Jeremy, I appreciate the memory jog. I'd
read it when I first started using obsd  apparently
totally misunderstood it. I guess it never bit me before
because I always used ttyC4 for startx which, in itself,
shows my misunderstanding. I'd always had ttyC4 enabled,
along with a couple more in rc.conf.local. Switching
back  forth between desktop  other consoles okay now.
I've done some more reading elseware, edited my fluxbox
menu for xterm, changing the {xterm} to {xterm -ls }
and now the aliases in .profile are once again working
too, from xterm. Still don't understand why they used
to work without that extra setting, but it's working,
that's what counts. One good thing came from all this,
I'm finally up to current without any apparent problems.
Thanks again for your help.

Denny White

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Re: console switching problem from desktop

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Today Neil E. Sprinlan wrote:

Denny White wrote:


There are actually 2 problems. First one is, when using
ctrl-alt-f1  so forth, it goes to the other console fine,
but when I try to switch back, all I see on the screen is
the output from the underlying x rather than the desktop.


If you use xdm to start X, your custom settings below call for trouble.
/etc/X11/xdm/Xservers forces the X server to use ttyC4, which should not
have a getty process attached.


The other problem is, when I'm on the desktop in an xterm
window, it's as though the settings in .profile like my
aliases I have setup, aren't recognized, like they're not
in the current environment settings.


xsession or xinitrc files don't source your .profile.
you need to start xterm with the '-ls' option or the loginShell resource
set to TRUE to have the shell executed in them source it.
Or put your settings in ~/.xsession (for xdm) or ~/.xinitrc (for startx).


I never had anything
like this happen when running 3.9. Now, on 4.0, I did a
clean install, started having the problem, moved to stable,
now current. Problem is still there.


I'd suggest you compare your current setup with the one you used before
(you did a backup, did you?). X has almost not changed between 3.9 and
4.0.

-+-neil-+-




Thanks for the answer, Neil. I've finally got it straightened
out. And I use startx for x. The pertinent ttys settings are
below. ttyC4 is once again off. I had misread the instructions
a long time back, always used that terminal for x,  it never
seemed to have any problem.
The other part about sourcing .profile from xterm puzzles me
still, since I never had to add any switches in the fluxbox
menu to the xterm command before in 3.7 through 3.9. It now
reads (xterm) {xterm -ls } and all the aliases I use are once
again there, so I know .profile is being sourced. And yep, I
do a full dump at least monthly  incrementals in between. ;)
Thanks again for the info.

Denny White

(/etc/ttys snip)
console /usr/libexec/getty Pc   vt220   off insecure
ttyC0   /usr/libexec/getty Pc   vt220   on  insecure
ttyC1   /usr/libexec/getty Pc   vt220   on  insecure
ttyC2   /usr/libexec/getty Pc   vt220   on  insecure
ttyC3   /usr/libexec/getty Pc   vt220   on  insecure
ttyC4   /usr/libexec/getty Pc   vt220   off insecure
ttyC5   /usr/libexec/getty Pc   vt220   on  insecure
ttyC6   /usr/libexec/getty Pc   vt220   on  insecure
ttyC7   /usr/libexec/getty Pc   vt220   on  insecure
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Rosetta Stone for Unix

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Thought this was pretty useful and interesting, especially for those
of us who aren't on the same level as developers and gurus. And for
them, there's also a contributions and corrections link.

http://bhami.com/rosetta.html

Found it in the 10/07/2008 entry on DragonFly BSD Digest at

http://www.shiningsilence.com/dbsdlog/2008/10/07/3210.html

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Re: Rosetta Stone for Unix

[Denny White]

On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 08:09:16PM -0600, Theo de Raadt spoke thusly:
  Thought this was pretty useful and interesting, especially for those
  of us who aren't on the same level as developers and gurus. And for
  them, there's also a contributions and corrections link.
  
  http://bhami.com/rosetta.html
 
 As always, it is a shame that those types of pages have so many
 errors.
 
 For instance, check out the disklabel section.  2 out of 4 answers
 being right is still only 50% accurate.
 
 With that level of accuracy, the name is incredibly poorly chosen;
 perhaps they don't even know what the name refers to.  It refers to a
 document that contained an accurate translation of the same text
 into different languages and therefore it was possible to decipher an
 unknown language.  With this level of accuracy, that would be impossible.
 
 It is just sad.
 

You're absolutely right about the mistakes in that section. I used the
mail link on the page to let him know.

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Re: Rosetta Stone for Unix

[Denny White]

 On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 03:01:22PM +0200, Han Boetes wrote:
  Theo de Raadt wrote:
http://bhami.com/rosetta.html
  
   As always, it is a shame that those types of pages have so many
   errors.
  
   [snip: examples]
   It is just sad.
  
  It's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness.
  
  
  # Han
 
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 11:11:26AM -0500, Marco Peereboom spoke thusly:
 Right, let me put on my hippie robes so that we can sing koombaya.
 Obviously it doesn't matter that website is spewing shit; it is the
 thought that counts.
 

For what it's worth, I never meant to stir up a hornet's nest on the
list. The guy's got a mailto link and welcomes all corrections. He
answers promptly, too. I guess it's being done in the spirit of open
source. You know, where everyone is welcome to pitch in constructively?
Hence, the link for Contributions and corrections gratefully accepted.
I already wrote to him about what Theo spotted right off and got an
answer he will correct it as soon as possible. I went back again,
clicked on 'set all OS' and 'Draw table', and can find no shutdown
command ref for OpenBSD. There's just a ? there. Checked OpenBSD in
the box, again clicked 'Draw Table' and got the same. Maybe the person
who wrote the previous message pertaining to that command looked at
the wrong column. Or hell, maybe I did. It's apparent it's a work in
progress. Kind of like release schedules, applying patches, etc. Things
improve with time. Why not pitch in and help the guy? Or not. Point is,
he's trying. I guess he could take the 'Sysadmin' out at the top of the
page, possibly misleading to a newbie, but he's also got good links to
the OpenBSD FAQ's and man pages. Those ARE definitive guides and users
are warned about that early on, both in the documentation and on the
mailing lists. If they choose to try to shortcut and use something they
found like on the site in question and it bites them in the butt, they
only have themselves to blame. I don't think any sysadmin worth his
salt would blindly follow everything on the site.


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Fresh install question

[Denny White]

I've always tried to do a fresh install any time possible,
and then copy all my backed up /home and /data stuff back
to the new installed system. I'm just trying to figure out
if there's a way to keep those 2 slices intact while wiping
out and recreating everything else, i.e., /usr, /var,  /tmp.
I rebooted on the new 4.4 install cd and tried to see if there
was a different way to go about things but couldn't figure it
out there. I read up on disklabel  fdisk  googled around for
a couple of days before asking the list. So, if someone knows
where I can find some info on it, I'd really appreciate it. 


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Re: Fresh install question

[Denny White]

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 10:50:13AM +0100, Alexander Hall spoke thusly:
 Denny White wrote:
 I've always tried to do a fresh install any time possible,
 and then copy all my backed up /home and /data stuff back
 to the new installed system. I'm just trying to figure out
 if there's a way to keep those 2 slices intact while wiping
 out and recreating everything else, i.e., /usr, /var,  /tmp.
 I rebooted on the new 4.4 install cd and tried to see if there
 was a different way to go about things but couldn't figure it
 out there. I read up on disklabel  fdisk  googled around for
 a couple of days before asking the list. So, if someone knows
 where I can find some info on it, I'd really appreciate it. 

 Something like replying no to Do you want to use the entire disk for 
 openbsd could be a good start. I believe that would keep the existing 
 partitions, and you could map them to their respective mount mounts again. 
 I think, however, that you need to _not_ specify mount points for the file 
 systems you want to preserve to prevent them from being newfs'd.

 Since I seldom, if ever, do that kind of fresh reinstalls, you'd better 
 compare the above with install.sh et al. In any way i think it should be 
 possible, but pretty please do make those backups before anyway. :-)

 /Alexander

Thanks, Alexander. I'll give it a shot. I just did a dump on everything
to a separate drive. Also rsync my homedir to that drive nightly. Worse
case is, I screw it up  just copy everything back like before. ;)

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Re: Fresh install question

[Denny White]

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 07:04:31AM -0500, Nick Holland spoke thusly:
 Denny White wrote:
  I've always tried to do a fresh install any time possible,
  and then copy all my backed up /home and /data stuff back
  to the new installed system. I'm just trying to figure out
  if there's a way to keep those 2 slices intact while wiping
  out and recreating everything else, i.e., /usr, /var,  /tmp.
  I rebooted on the new 4.4 install cd and tried to see if there
  was a different way to go about things but couldn't figure it
  out there. I read up on disklabel  fdisk  googled around for
  a couple of days before asking the list. So, if someone knows
  where I can find some info on it, I'd really appreciate it. 
 
 Just don't define mount points for the partitions you wish to
 keep, and they won't be newfs'd (i.e., existing data will be
 preserved).
 
 AFTER the install, you will go in and edit /etc/fstab and add
 your saved partitions.  Ta-da! your data is back.
 
 Have a backup anyway, of course.  Sucks to fat-finger something
 in the process...
 
 Nick.
 
 

Thanks, Nick. Yeah, that's what some other replies said. And, like
I said too in my answer, everything's just been dumped  homedir
rsynced, so I'm going to give it a try. And yes, fat fingers suck.
I know from experience. ;) Thanks for the help.

Good case in point. Forgot cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] What a dweeb! ;) Fat fingers
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Re: Fresh install question

[Denny White]

  Original-Nachricht 
  Datum: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 01:14:46 -0600
  Von: Denny White [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  An: OpenBSD Questions misc@openbsd.org
  Betreff: Fresh install question
 
  I've always tried to do a fresh install any time possible,
  and then copy all my backed up /home and /data stuff back
  to the new installed system. I'm just trying to figure out
  if there's a way to keep those 2 slices intact while wiping
  out and recreating everything else, i.e., /usr, /var,  /tmp.
  I rebooted on the new 4.4 install cd and tried to see if there
  was a different way to go about things but couldn't figure it
  out there. I read up on disklabel  fdisk  googled around for
  a couple of days before asking the list. So, if someone knows
  where I can find some info on it, I'd really appreciate it. 
  
  
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On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 03:34:47PM +0100, Jorge Valbuena spoke thusly:
 One simple thing that i will try is:
 
 If is already installed OpenBSD 4.2 and  wants to install 4.3 or 4.4 , first 
 take a look at the /etc/fstab file and write down the name of the /home 
 partition
 
 /dev/wd0h /home ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2
 
 
 When installing the new version leave untouched that partition,  and after 
 first boot put the line manually in your new /etc/fstab
 
 I hope this can help !
 
 Jorge

Yep, that's been the general consensus in the other replies. Thanks
for the help, Jorge. Along with just having dumped everything and
rsynced my homedir, I also have fstab  quite a few other etc files
saved separately on my 2nd backup drive. Now all I have to do is try
to avoid 'fat fingers' as Nick advised. ;)
 
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Re: Fresh install question

[Denny White]

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 06:58:22AM +0530, Girish Venkatachalam spoke thusly:
 On 15:34:47 Nov 17, Jorge Valbuena wrote:
  One simple thing that i will try is:
  
  If is already installed OpenBSD 4.2 and  wants to install 4.3 or 4.4 , 
  first take a look at the /etc/fstab file and write down the name of the 
  /home partition
  
  /dev/wd0h /home ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2
  
  
  When installing the new version leave untouched that partition,  and after 
  first boot put the line manually in your new /etc/fstab
  
  I hope this can help !
  
 
 It also helps to note down the starting and ending cylinders of the
 partition you want to preserve.
 
 You can think of the OpenBSD fdisk partition as one big contiguous block
 of sectors. Irrespective of its physical location, it is one single
 unidimensional series of sectors. Each sector is exactly 512 bytes.
 
 OpenBSD fdisk and disklabel unlike the ones found in other OSes always
 tell us the cylinder boundaries.
 
 This has helped me think a bit more clearly.
 
 -Girish
 

Thanks, Girish. Believe it or not, I actually thought to do that.
I know, miracles never cease. But thanks for reminding me. You
know from off list correspondence about how much my memory banks
will hold (or won't). ;)


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Re: Fresh install question

[Denny White]

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 01:14:46AM -0600, Denny White spoke thusly:
 I've always tried to do a fresh install any time possible,
 and then copy all my backed up /home and /data stuff back
 to the new installed system. I'm just trying to figure out
 if there's a way to keep those 2 slices intact while wiping
 out and recreating everything else, i.e., /usr, /var,  /tmp.
 I rebooted on the new 4.4 install cd and tried to see if there
 was a different way to go about things but couldn't figure it
 out there. I read up on disklabel  fdisk  googled around for
 a couple of days before asking the list. So, if someone knows
 where I can find some info on it, I'd really appreciate it. 
 

Replying to myself to say the advice from Nick, Girish, Jorge,
Alexander, and Tom was great. Never went through a smoother
reinstall! All /home and /data intact with no need to work this
aging box any harder than is necessary. Thanks to all and thanks
to Theo and the devs for a great OS! 4.4 is tops, just as expected.

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Re: JDK 1.7

[Denny White]

 --- On Wed, 11/19/08, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: JDK 1.7
 To: Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: misc@openbsd.org
 Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 8:55 AM
 
 On 2008/11/19 07:51, Marco Peereboom wrote:
  If you rely on that plugin it is a little more than a not a big
 deal.
  I for one would love to see it.  yay kurt!
 
  On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:45:38AM +, Stuart Henderson wrote:
   On 2008-11-19, Steve Shockley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
I tried installing the JDK 1.7 package on a -current machine,
 but
couldn't find how to add the plugin to Firefox.  Does JDK
 1.7 include
the plugin?
  
   It doesn't.
  
   It's not a big deal, 1.6 works just fine, just wondering.
  
 
 oops, trimmed the  prefix to the quote. the It's not a big
 deal was
 from the original poster.
 
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 07:10:40AM -0800, K H A I spoke thusly:
 I;ve just compiled jdk-1.5.0.4
 I cannot not make plugin works
 /usr/local/jdk-1.5.0/jre/plugin has 2 files .so  cannot remember the name
 I have copied to to /usr/local/lib/mozilla-plugin
 also when i exec manually /usr/local/jdk-1.5.0/bin/ControlPanel,
 I see the table which has:
 /usr/local/jdk-1.5.0/jre/bin/java  enable
 /usr/local/jdk-1.5.0/bin/java   enable
 
 When I start firefox, I cannot see java plugin
 How do i create it?
 Any help would be greatlly appreciated.
 Cheers.
 K.D

K.D.
Moved your post to the bottom. Makes it a LOT easier to follow a
thread as in 'please don't top post'. I don't care but most others do.
I built 1.6.0 but it works on the same the principle for you in 1.5.0.
Do you mean you copied the actual files there? I'd get rid of them
first to keep from any confusion. You have to link back to the actual
binary as it needs other stuff which isn't in your plugins directory.
Then:

ln -fs /usr/local/jdk-1.5.0/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so \
~/.mozilla/plugins/

Open firefox  in the address bar type 'about:plugins' (minus quotes).
Mine looks like so:

Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_03-p4-b00

File name: libjavaplugin_oji.so
Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_03

Lots of java specs follow below that.

Okay? [ Chuc may man! (minus diacritics - just guessing ]
Apologies if I'm wrong. ;)

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sshd with authlog error message

[Denny White]

Just upgraded to 4.4 the other day. Fresh install, then updated
to stable. I have a loopback adapter on the one xp box with a
cygwin bash script that runs on boot  gets installed as a
service. Click Start - Run, type in the ip address and enter
and explorer comes up with my file shares on my OpenBSD box.
Before in 4.3 there were never any error messages. Now I'm
getting this in authlog:

Nov 28 13:12:28 badboybox sshd[1280]: channel_by_id: 1: bad id: channel
free
Nov 28 13:12:28 badboybox sshd[1280]: channel_input_success_failure: 1:
unknown

I googled around and saw others having that problem, but everything
I found had to do with linux. Samba was built with the ssl argument.
Did that just for experimentation to see what I could do with it 
learn something new. I'm also running sshd on a high port rather
than on 22 to keep all the script kiddy crap out of the logs. I can
run sshd with the -q switch and stop the error message, but I'm not
really comfortable with that. Anyone has any idea what's causing it,
I'd appreciate any input. I know ssh has moved up to 5.1 in 4.4, and
I thought maybe something that had changed in it was causing the
problem, but what I don't know. Thanks for any help on it.

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Re: sshd with authlog error message: SOLVED

[Denny White]

On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 01:30:15PM -0600, Denny White spoke thusly:
 Just upgraded to 4.4 the other day. Fresh install, then updated
 to stable. I have a loopback adapter on the one xp box with a
 cygwin bash script that runs on boot  gets installed as a
 service. Click Start - Run, type in the ip address and enter
 and explorer comes up with my file shares on my OpenBSD box.
 Before in 4.3 there were never any error messages. Now I'm
 getting this in authlog:
 
 Nov 28 13:12:28 badboybox sshd[1280]: channel_by_id: 1: bad id: channel
 free
 Nov 28 13:12:28 badboybox sshd[1280]: channel_input_success_failure: 1:
 unknown
 
 I googled around and saw others having that problem, but everything
 I found had to do with linux. Samba was built with the ssl argument.
 Did that just for experimentation to see what I could do with it 
 learn something new. I'm also running sshd on a high port rather
 than on 22 to keep all the script kiddy crap out of the logs. I can
 run sshd with the -q switch and stop the error message, but I'm not
 really comfortable with that. Anyone has any idea what's causing it,
 I'd appreciate any input. I know ssh has moved up to 5.1 in 4.4, and
 I thought maybe something that had changed in it was causing the
 problem, but what I don't know. Thanks for any help on it.
 

Replying to my own message to say problem solved. Don't know what
changed in 5.1 or samba, but the error messages can be gotten rid
of by adding the following to the ssh command on a windows loopback
connector bash script in cygwin  hopefully putty or others if not
using cygwin. I don't know since I haven't used putty in a long time.

-o TCPKeepAlive=no -o ServerAliveInterval=10

I put 10 since I think sshd checks every 20 seconds or so by default.
Anyone correct me if I'm wrong on that. I'd read where the 'no' on
the TCPKeepAlive protects against some sort of spoofing. Thought I
should explain that since it looks redundant, and very may be with
the newer ssh. It wouldn't affect this system anyway, I don't think,
since all connections are done using keys rather than passwords. And
again, anyone correct me where I'm wrong. Anyway, the error messages
are gone.

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Re: OpenBSD 4.4 Console Will Not Clear

[Denny White]

On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 03:56:21PM -0700, Bret spoke thusly:
 Greetings

I have been running OpenBSD as a firewall/router since 2.5 and have  
 never had any problem with Clearing the console each time a user logs  
 out. I have just installed 4.4 on a system that was running 4.0. I did a  
 complete install from the install CD off the ftp site(s). I then edited  
 /etc/gettytab the same way I have done many times before, following the  
 FAQ instructions. The console will not clear after logging out. I have  
 even rebooted and the same results. I thought I might have screwed the  
 file up editing it so I even did another clean install and ONLY  
 installed pico to edit /etc/gettytab just in case I somehow messed it up  
 using vi... still no go. Looked out on the net and found no reference to  
 this. Any Ideas?

 Bret


I'm assuming you're referring to

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq7.html#ConsoleClear

i.e.,

To do this you must add a line in /etc/gettytab(5). Change the current
section:

P|Pc|Pc console:\
:np:sp#9600:

adding the line :cl=\E[H\E[2J: at the end, so that it ends up looking
like this:

P|Pc|Pc console:\
:np:sp#9600:\
:cl=\E[H\E[2J:


Now try changing

default:\
:np:im=\r\n%s/%m (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\n:sp#1200:

to

default:\
:np:im=\r\n%s/%m (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\n:sp#1200:cl=\E[H\E[2J:



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Re: verify installed packages' binaries integrity ?

[Denny White]

On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 08:04:05PM +0100, jul spoke thusly:
 (Note: it is not related to packages integrity when installing)
 
 a small question, is there any way to check integrity of installed
 packages'binaries ?
 i explain: in the case, i fear my host is compromised and i forgot or
 have corrupted mtree files, can i ask pkg manager to say if any
 referenced file has a different checksums than recorded. (+CONTENTS file
 has md5 and size)
 
 i know, this does not concern any base binaries which are the stuff that
 matter the most, but else ...
 If no mtree, i think the last option is comparing with binaries from CD
 hoping they didn't changed.
 
 thanks
 Regards

A simple alternative way to check the integrity of files is at:

https://calomel.org/ids_mtree.html

I use ids.sh out of a nightly cronjob  cuss myself out every time I
forget to run the script with 'generate' after changing something, as
it doesn't miss anything. At least it hasn't yet. ;) And the plus is,
it's done with mtree which is in base instead of using something
third-party  having to fart around with another conf file.


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weekly/locate.updatedb problem

[Denny White]

I know from past experience and doing a lot of online searching
that this problem crops up from time to time. Usually someone
just did a new install and doesn't know the locate.datebase
isn't created by default. You have to do it yourself to get
started. Just stating those things so no one thinks I'm looking
for a quick fix without any rtfm or research. I'm getting

Not installing locate database; zero size

when weekly runs. I've created the database myself several ways:

sudo /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb

which makes it much larger than the normal size which happens
because it's not under the normal constraints it is when run
from weekly. Also used

sudo su -m nobody /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb

which produces the normal size.

I haven't done any modifications to weekly. It's straight
'out of the box' from when I installed 4.4. I've looked at
the permissions on the pertinent directories and none of them
appear to have changed. I've looked at root's crontab and can't
find anything wrong there. It's just like it was when I was
still running 4.3 and locate.updatedb worked fine from weekly
then. Still, when weekly runs, locate.updatedb fails. I've
tried running ls from another term when weekly starts and
could see /var/db/locate.database.XX. Sometimes
locate.update will run for up to 10 or 15 secs, but usually
it fails, almost immediately. I should mention, also, that
there's no problem with /tmp or /var sizes. /tmp is 1Gib
and almost empty. /var is 2GiB, also mostly free. Anyone
got any ideas where to look next, I'd appreciate it. 


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Re: weekly/locate.updatedb problem

[Denny White]

On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 08:28:52PM +0100, Matthias Kilian spoke thusly:
 On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 12:39:57PM -0600, Denny White wrote:
  I know from past experience and doing a lot of online searching
  that this problem crops up from time to time. Usually someone
  just did a new install and doesn't know the locate.datebase
  isn't created by default.
 
 There's an empty /var/db/locate.database in etcXX.tgz. Didn't you
 install etcXX.tgz?
 
 Ciao,
   Kili

Okay, maybe I worded my question wrong. Sure, I installed all
sets including etcXX.tgz. Regardless, I'm still trying to solve
the problem of the update failing now. As I said before, I've
tried to check every conceivable thing I could come up with
that might be causing it and am still coming up emtpy. Weird.
And, IIRC, I did have to get it kicked off originally manually.
Just for fun I just copied the original empty file to /var/db/

-r--r--r--  1 root wheel 0 Dec 28 15:16  locate.database

and ran weekly again. Did a listing from another term to show
it had started and was trying:

-rw--- 1 root  wheel  0  Dec 28 15:19  locate.database.Hojrmm6565

After about 10 seconds it failed again. I ran top to watch how
much load it was creating, not that it ever came anywhere near
what it does while kernel or userland building, but just to see
at what point it failed in case it would help someone else who
was trying to help with the problem.

18714 root  57  0 4324K 5912K run  -  0:10 31.49% perl

That probably won't help but I'm at the 'shooting in the dark'
point here. For the record, here's the locate portion of weekly
to show that nothing's been altered. I decreased the indentation
to keep within 72 characters: 

echo 
if [ -f /var/db/locate.database ]; then
  TMP=`mktemp /var/db/locate.database.XX`
  if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then
  trap 'rm -f $TMP; exit 1' 0 1 15
  echo Rebuilding locate database:
  UPDATEDB=/usr/libexec/locate.updatedb
  echo ${UPDATEDB} --fcodes=- --tmpdir=${TMPDIR:-/var/tmp} | \
  nice -5 su -m nobody 2/dev/null 1$TMP
  if [ -s $TMP ]; then
  chmod 444 $TMP
  chown root:wheel $TMP
  mv -f $TMP /var/db/locate.database
  else
  echo Not installing locate database; zero size
  fi
  else
  echo Not rebuilding locate database; can't create temp file
  fi
else
  echo Not rebuilding locate database; no /var/db/locate.database
fi


I'm just wondering, since perl moved to a new number if something's
changed there that's causing the problem. At that point I wouldn't
know what to do. I did check ulimit to see what the settings were.
As a user I get

time(cpu-seconds)unlimited
file(blocks) unlimited
coredump(blocks) unlimited
data(kbytes) 524288
stack(kbytes)4096
lockedmem(kbytes)166098
memory(kbytes)   497108
nofiles(descriptors) 128
processes64

and as root

time(cpu-seconds)unlimited
file(blocks) unlimited
coredump(blocks) unlimited
data(kbytes) 1048576
stack(kbytes)8192
lockedmem(kbytes)166098
memory(kbytes)   497108
nofiles(descriptors) 128
processes1310

Once again, shooting in the dark.


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Re: weekly/locate.updatedb problem: SOLVED

[Denny White]

 On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Denny White denny...@cableone.net wrote:
 
  Not installing locate database; zero size
 
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 05:54:31PM -0500, Dave K spoke thusly:

 I've been seeing this on a 4.3 box.  After reading your email, and
 seeing that I'm not the only one with the issue, I've been playing
 with it today.
 
 After making backups of all the scripts involved (/etc/weekly and
 /usr/libexec/locate.*), I took out the 2 /dev/null and trap ...
 stuff to be able to see all the errors, and have the various temporary
 file left behind for analysis.
 
 If I run it manually (as root, sh /etc/weekly), it fails with the
 find in locate.updatedb giving the error find: .:: Permission
 denied.  If I cd into /tmp first, it runs okay.  So I added
 PREVPWD=$PWD; cd /tmp in /etc/weekly before the call to
 locate.updatedb, and cd $PREVPWD: after.
 
 It now has run successfully both when invoked manually, and from cron.
 
 I'm going to leave this debug configuration in place to see what
 happens as time goes on.
 
 -- 
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 Unix Systems  Network Administrator
 Mount Laurel NJ

Thanks Dave  Philip, too, since I'm CC you, for the ideas and help.
Y'all will probably want to kick me in the ass when I explain what
was causing the problem. But, your messages helped me figure it out,
none the less, especially the part about changing directories before
running the command. When I recently went from 4.3 to 4.4  installed
a new crontab, I copied  pasted my own  root's stuff into their
respective crontabs from a backup. Wrong backup! There was 1 changed
line that I never noticed until I read your messages. The crontab for
root had HOME=/root  I can't remember why in the hell I changed that
one day farting around with something here. Long  the short is, I
copied from the wrong backup. I just changed it back to HOME=/var/log
 locate.updatedb from weekly works fine once again. My bad. I keep
voluminous notes  but that one just slipped through the cracks.
Sorry for the noise,  thanks for the help.
[Slinks back into the primordial newbie/troll slime ;)]


Denny White

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Re: awk

[Denny White]

 On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 02:41:24PM +, Andreas Kahari spoke thusly:
 2009/1/15 igor denisov denisovigor1...@rambler.ru:
  Hi there
  Can not understand.
 
  input:
  34523 9348 98493 82983
  9485 83928 9283 9283
  394 39934 293 8347
  3456 9238 9283 9283
 
  awk 'NR==1 { for (i = 1; i = NF; i++) {n=$i; next}}; {n-=$i} END {print n}'
  input
 
  output:
  21188 it is first column, why?
 
 You should really take these questions to an awk forum, not to this
 mailing list.
 
 Your program reads the first record, and assigns its first column to
 'n' in a loop that is immediately exited (with 'next') and goes on to
 read the remaining records.
 
 For the remaining records, 'i' being still 1 from the prematurely
 exited loop, the first column is subtracted from 'n'.
 
 Regards,
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Deleted original message, so replying to Andreas' message.

To sum by columns, do:
awk '{for(i=1;i=NF;i++)t[i]+=$i}END{for(i=1;i in t;i++)print t[i]}' \
input

If you want to sum by lines, do:
awk '{for(i=1;i=NF;i++)t[i]+=$i}END{for(i=1;i in t;i++)print t[i]}' \
input

If you want to total all the numbers at once you can do:
awk '{for(i=1;i=NF;i++)t[i]+=$i}END{for(i=1;i in t;i++)print t[i]}' \
input

If I misunderstood what you want, like do you just want to total
the first column, then:

awk '{print $1}' input | \
awk '{for(i=1;i=NF;i++)t[i]+=$i}END{for(i=1;i in t;i++)print t[i]}'

For another column, just change the '{print $1}' to whatever column
you need. The gurus might and probably do know a better way, but
that works. Hope this helps.


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Re: awk

[Denny White]

 On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 03:13:27AM -0600, Denny White spoke thusly:
  On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 02:41:24PM +, Andreas Kahari spoke thusly:
  2009/1/15 igor denisov denisovigor1...@rambler.ru:
   Hi there
   Can not understand.
  
   input:
   34523 9348 98493 82983
   9485 83928 9283 9283
   394 39934 293 8347
   3456 9238 9283 9283
  
   awk 'NR==1 { for (i = 1; i = NF; i++) {n=$i; next}}; {n-=$i} END {print 
   n}'
   input
  
   output:
   21188 it is first column, why?
  
  You should really take these questions to an awk forum, not to this
  mailing list.
  
  Your program reads the first record, and assigns its first column to
  'n' in a loop that is immediately exited (with 'next') and goes on to
  read the remaining records.
  
  For the remaining records, 'i' being still 1 from the prematurely
  exited loop, the first column is subtracted from 'n'.
  
  Regards,
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 Deleted original message, so replying to Andreas' message.
 
 To sum by columns, do:
 awk '{for(i=1;i=NF;i++)t[i]+=$i}END{for(i=1;i in t;i++)print t[i]}' \
 input
 
 If you want to sum by lines, do:
 awk '{for(i=1;i=NF;i++)t[i]+=$i}END{for(i=1;i in t;i++)print t[i]}' \
 input
 
 If you want to total all the numbers at once you can do:
 awk '{for(i=1;i=NF;i++)t[i]+=$i}END{for(i=1;i in t;i++)print t[i]}' \
 input
 
 If I misunderstood what you want, like do you just want to total
 the first column, then:
 
 awk '{print $1}' input | \
 awk '{for(i=1;i=NF;i++)t[i]+=$i}END{for(i=1;i in t;i++)print t[i]}'
 
 For another column, just change the '{print $1}' to whatever column
 you need. The gurus might and probably do know a better way, but
 that works. Hope this helps.
 
 
 Denny White
 

Now I know I'm tired. I overlooked the subtraction part.

To subtract down through just the first column, do:

awk '{print $1}' input | \
awk 'NR==1 {n=$1; next}; {n-=$1} END {print n}'


For a 4 column file, to subtract through all 4 columns, do:

awk 'NR == 1 { d1 = $1; d2 = $2; d3 = $3; d4 = $4; next }{ d1 -= $1; \
d2 -= $2; d3 -= $3; d4 -= $4 } END { print d1, d2, d3, d4 }' input

And again, hope this helps.


Denny White 

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Re: /altroot

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On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 09:44:43PM +, 4625 spoke thusly:  On Sat, 15 Aug 
2009, Philip Guenther wrote:   Is it correct string for /etc/fstab? 
/dev/wd2d /altroot ffs xx 0 0

 Assuming /dev/wd2d is the correct partition, yes.  (You're looking at
 the daily(8) manpage, right?)

 Sure. Original mount string for '/altroot' there was '/dev/wd2d /altroot 
 ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2'.

 Should df display the /altroot?

 Only if you mount it yourself.  It is not normally mounted and
 therefore does not appear in 'df' output.  (No point in displaying it,
 what with it being a duplicate of the root filesystem)

 Ok. Thanks.

 I do not see any messages about backup. How do I check if backup really  
 happen?

 --
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It's in daily output mailed to root's account. You got to have access
to root's mail. I've got myself in the wheel group and have root's email
sent to me instead. Here's some pertinent stuff in root's crontab:

ROOTBACKUP=1# backup / to /altroot
MAILTO=dennyboy   # forward root's mail to me

In /etc/mail/aliases, my name is added next to root:

root: dennyboy

In daily output to root, the section of the message pertaining to
the backup should look something similar to this:

Backing up root filesystem:
copying /dev/rwd0a to /dev/rwd1a
131098+1 records in
131098+1 records out
1073955328 bytes transferred in 51.680 secs (20780520 bytes/sec)

Naturally the 2nd line is dependent on your disk setup, fstab  so
forth as previously discussed in this thread.


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Re: /usr directory: a system or user place?

[Denny White]

 On Sun, May 02, 2010 at 11:18:01AM +1000, Rod Whitworth spoke thusly:
 On Sat, 1 May 2010 20:23:50 -0400, Barry Miller wrote:
 
 Yes, I know this is somewhat off-topic, but I think it's fascinating,
 like, Why'd they call it 'awk'?  Now there's an acronym for you.
 
 Did you leave that as an exercise for the reader ?
 
 It's too easy and, although I'm not spoiling the exercise, I'll bet
 somebody jumps in very soon!

Kersplash! I'm in. ;)

[A]ho + [W]einberger + [K]ernighan = AWK

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CD's are here

[Denny White]

Yes, we have some new cd's,
We have some new cd's today, ole! ;)

Prior silly exuberance probably has no meaning to the younger
generation. Maybe some other old farts like me will recall the
song it's a parodying. ;)

Complete package arrived unscathed. Even a cool sticker on the
outside of the package. Was able to reuse it on my laptop.
Great work as always!


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Re: pkg_add problems after 4.7 upgrade

[Denny White]

 On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 10:38:56PM -0400, Casey Allen Shobe spoke thusly:
 On 29 May, 2010, at 9:19 PM, Jacob Meuser wrote:

 On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 08:57:28PM -0400, Casey Allen Shobe wrote:
 I've tried a few mirrors with the same results - this was the last
 one I tried:

 export PKG_PATH=ftp://obsd.cec.mtu.edu/pub/OpenBSD/4.7/packages/i386/

 ...or as I was trying last as indicated below:
 export PKG_PATH=ftp://openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.7/packages/i386/
 ^^
 of course that one won't work ... maybe that's a typo but that's
 kinda the point.

 Sorry, what's the typo?  Why won't it work?

 since you're using ftp, 'ftp $PKG_PATH' should put you in the right
 directory.  does it?

 Well, I tried `links $PKG_PATH` before - that worked.  But with `ftp  
 $PKG_PATH`, it appears to log in correctly, but ls never returns  
 anything.  This seems to happen with ANY ftp server actually (just tried 
 a bunch), and is odd because I did use the commandline ftp utility 
 frequently on 4.6 without any issue...

 So the problem lies with the 'ftp' utility?

 Cheers,
 -- 
 Casey Allen Shobe
 ca...@shobe.info


Not really sure what happened with
ftp://obsd.cec.mtu.edu/pub/OpenBSD/4.7/packages/i386/
since it worked fine for me including 'ls'.

As for the 2nd one you tried which didn't work:
ftp://openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.7/packages/i386/

Try this:
ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.7/packages/i386/


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Re: pkg_add problems after 4.7 upgrade

[Denny White]

 On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 12:50:55AM -0400, Casey Allen Shobe spoke thusly:
 On 30 May, 2010, at 12:15 AM, Denny White wrote:
 Not really sure what happened with
   since it worked fine for me including 'ls'.

 As for the 2nd one you tried which didn't work:
 ftp://openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.7/packages/i386/

 Try this:
 ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.7/packages/i386/

 Well, I've found that using an HTTP mirror works.  However, this is  
 concerning because all of these machines were able to use FTP properly  
 before, some Debian machines on the same network can use FTP mirrors  
 correctly (plus `ftp` to the same OpenBSD mirrors works from Debian),  
 and the links browser on the OpenBSD machines seems to do FTP correctly 
 too.

 One way or the other, the 'ftp' utility seems to have gotten broken  
 since 4.6.  I'd hazard to guess that it might not be supporting passive 
 FTP anymore, since active FTP does not work from the network and this is 
 reminiscent of what would happen if I tried using active FTP from behind 
 a firewall in the past...

 I've worked around the immediate problem with HTTP for now...but is  
 there any more useful information that I can provide from my end?

 Cheers,
 -- 
 Casey Allen Shobe
 ca...@shobe.info

If you're comfortable with it, you could try disabling pf just long
enough to see if your ftp works without it. If so you could supply
your pf.conf since there have been syntax changes and possibly you
have something outdated in it. If you've got good backups you could
try doing a fresh install on just one box and see what happens. If
the problem goes away you'll know something got screwed up during
the upgrades.


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Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

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  I had this problem before, an old Cereal box + Scissors + tape fixed
  it right up.  But your mileage may vary
 
 I'm Jealous! --I've always wanted a cereal console.
 
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Re: OpenBSD 4.7 pre-orders are live!

[Denny White]

 On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 09:42:06PM -0500, Jason Dixon spoke thusly:
 https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order?CD47=1CD47%2b=Add
 
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 Jason Dixon
 DixonGroup Consulting
 http://www.dixongroup.net/
 

2010/3/14-12:29:45-27293

Way behind the others, but better late than never. ;)


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