Re: [mythtv-users] MythMusic

2005-02-04 Thread pmb
Josh Burks wrote:
Shoutcast/internet radio would be nice, IMHO. I know someone has done
it, it's just not in the mainstream release.
Josh
 

If you are using ATRPM's, it's as easy as:
apt-get install mythstream
--
http://www.umich2.com
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Re: [mythtv-users] Torrentocracy with Mandrake 10.1

2005-02-04 Thread Paul Woodward
I think Isaac, especially in light of NYC artical and similar slurs, wants to 
keep this project and associated records (such as this list) squeaky clean so 
that noone ever has a cause to legislate against this kind of project.

Politicians seems to find reward in passing legislation which has the backing 
of organisations and big businesses - just look at the broadcast flag,
software patent laws in the EU...

It would be easy for a lawyer to construe a helpful answer to your question as 
support from 'MythTV' for potentially illegal activity, whatever the actual 
intentions.

We all love Myth and would hate to see this technology made illegal by someone 
with questionable political motives.

Paul


-Original Message-
From: Adam Prentice [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 4, 2005 07:23 AM
To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Torrentocracy with Mandrake 10.1


On Wednesday 02 February 2005 04:39 pm, Adam Prentice wrote:
 I've been trying to get torrentocracy working on a mandrake 10.1 box to
no
 avail. By using urpmi to get mythtv, and editing the torrentocracy files
to
 point to the correct directories everything appears to install ok,
however
 I get the QText error. And yes, I subscribed to RSS feeds.

 I was wondering if anyone's using torrentocracy, and if so what linux
 distribution, version of mythtv, and version of torrentocracy are you
 using?

This list is not the place to ask for help with that.

Isaac

Why not? It's a question regarding the usage of MythTV. I've searched the
archives and realize some people think torrentocracy is for pirates (shiver
me timbers). But there are perfectly legal applications for the plugin. 

- Adam


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[mythtv-users] Re:Shutdown/wakeup how to page

2005-02-04 Thread Alexander Petkov
=
title PowerOff
savedefault --default=1
halt
=

I also use halt in grub. I found that my Suse 8.2 ahs some sort of a butchered 
Grub version, where the savedefault option as quoted in my post just above 
doesn't work. I resorted to using submenus in grub like this:

in /boot/grub/menu.lst:

title PowerOff
  configfile (hd1,4)/grub/halt.lst

then, in halt.lst (the submenu):

title Halt
  savedefault
  halt

The consequence of this is that now my default entry is set to zero again, so 
when the machine wakes up, the topmost entry in menu.lst is highlighted as the 
default. (hd1,4) is my small partition that I mount to /boot.





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Re: [mythtv-users] Passively-cooled FX5200 DVI-out video cards?

2005-02-04 Thread Brandon Beattie
On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 11:48:04PM -0500, Robert Tsai wrote:
 Can anyone identify passively-cooled (heatsink only, no fan) FX5200
 graphics cards with DVI output?
 
 I've only been able to identify the Gainward Pro/660 (VGFX5200DTL) on
 the manufacturer website:
 http://www.gainwardusa.com/products/vga_660dt.htm . Unfortunately,
 this card seems to be rather hard to find (out of stock at most of the
 big online retailers).
 
 I've seen hints of others (Inno3D Tornado, Asus V9520-X/TD-128), but
 I'd like to be sure, because there is variation even within a
 manufacturer. For example, the eVGA website shows passive heatsinks in
 all their pictures, but when I ordered one, I discovered that it had a
 fan. So now I don't trust website pictures without text; only
 Gainward's website specifically identifies the passive cooling
 mechanism.
 
 Thanks,
 --Rob

Active cooling is not always bad.  If you have a location in your case
where air movement is stale, active is a good idea.  A good case won't
have a dead spot and so passive is prefered mostly because it's one less
thing to go bad, as noise on it is so minor.

--Brandon
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Re: [mythtv-users] Another HDTV frontend possibility

2005-02-04 Thread Brandon Beattie
On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 09:44:27PM -0600, Dean Wilson wrote:
 I'm only just starting to get into MythTV -- which has so far included
 a lot of reading, and a lot of waiting for my backend hardware to
 arrive.  ;)  That said, I can't add much useful information, except to
 provide this link
 (http://www.embeddedstar.com/press/content/2004/12/embedded17599.html)
 which claims that it supports Linux, which is a promising start...
 
 I also have one question/hesitation:
 
 The embedded processor is a VIA C3 1.00GHz CPU.  I've heard reports
 that decoding HDTV requires at least a 1.8GHz processor.  However, I
 also noted that the motherboard comes with onboard advanced hardware
 MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 acceleration.  I don't know exactly what that
 means, (I note that it doesn't specifically state mpeg-2/4 hardware
 decoding) but if it means that it takes some of the load off the CPU
 to decode an HDTV stream, could 1.0 GHz be enough?
 
 I'd certainly be interested in seeing how this worked -- it'd be
 relatively cheap (it looks like you'd only need a case, HD, and
 memory, and you're in business) and the form factor and video output
 options make it a very attractive possibility.
 
 Can anyone more informed comment on whether it might be powerful
 enough for HDTV?
 
 Thanks!
 ~Dean Wilson

The newest (released a few months ago) VIA chipset and mpeg2 decoder 
has not been tested for HD yet.  I know
someone who will be hopefully soon.  It *should* be possible but don't
count your chickens.  VIA claims HD mpeg2 playback is possible.

--Brandon
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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythweather radar imagery

2005-02-04 Thread Tom E. Craddock, Jr.
M S wrote:
I think we're missing the point here... it's not a
firewall/DNS/Internet issue.  Although I can see where a cache of some
sort might have the same sort of symptoms, but this is last on the
list to check.  Everything is configured fine in terms of network
connectivity, and everything else works just fine.  It has to be
something with a setting, a file, a folder, a permission, the plugin,
or myth itself.  Can anyone else even verify that they can get radar
data?  If so, give me the location you are using and I'll try that. 
I've yet to hear it's working for me.  I pulled the plugin down from
CVS on 2/2/05.

Thanks!
On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 21:57:56 -0500, Tom E. Craddock, Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

M S wrote:
   

Sure...
I'm located in Chicago, so I'm sure that's not an issue.  I've tried
two seperate Chicago locations, as well as Indianapolis, Los Angelas,
and Tampa... all receive weather data fine, but no radar imagery.  I'm
using the Mythweather plugin... I have made no changes other than the
basic install and setup process.  Internet connect is fine... like I
said, I get the weather, but no radar imagery.  I think the readme
mentions that it pulls weather data from msnbc.com and radar from
weather.com (I know that weather.com has done a little restructuring
as of late.  I have no clue where to start to solve the problem
because the plugin settings are so basic.  Other than that, there
really aren't any additional settings to choose.  It doesn't even
sound like you are that familiar with mythweather Dewey as I posted
the plugin name in the first e-mail to the list as well as the title.
I would appreciate any help I can get... thanks again myth users!
Matt
On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 19:11:28 -0500, Dewey Smolka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

It might be easier to answer your question if you gave a few details
-- where are you located? Where are you trying to get weather data
from? Is the internet connection to the Myth box up and running? Have
you tried getting weather maps for other locations that would likely
be working (eg New York City)? Is it only the maps you're having
trouble with (ie are you getting the current weather and forecast
data)? What have you tried so far to solve the problem? What plugin
are you talking about? What are your settings?
Until you provide a bit more information, there's not much anyone here
can do for you.
On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 14:00:18 -0600, M S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

Hi!  I can't seem to get any radar data to come up for any location in
mythweather.  Is this a problem with the plugin, my settings, or the
source of the radar images?  Anyone else having this issue?
Thanks!
Matt

 

Grr top posting
What kinda router/firewall do you have?  Are you behind anything thats
running dansgaurdian or pop up blocker, caching DNS server, etc.?
Tom
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Yes its working for me, and since you said youve already tried Tampa, 
which is where I am and for where I pull data, and this is from 
todays/nights CVS, and since I can get, Im going to say it still may be 
an issue with your network.  Plenty of times Ive been behind systems 
that wouldnt let me pull down radar/IMDB info, disabled the stuff that 
caused the problem, dansgaurdian, or a dns caching machine, etc, and it 
worked. 

Tom
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Re: [mythtv-users] uc: Epia Unichrome viaXvMC Unichrome, does anyone have it stable? please read if u use it [NA/S]

2005-02-04 Thread Martin Engelhard
Hello !

 On Feb 3, 2005, at 10:06 AM, Greg Wildman wrote:
 I am going to try older cvs versions later tonight and test them, but
 I
 would love some feedback from other users.

 Yup,  no problem.

 EPIA M10k Nehemiah
 Gentoo linux, kernel 2.6.11_rc2
 CVS myth
 CVS DRI
 CVS via_drv
 CVS viaXvMC
 xorg 6.8.0

I have an M10k and a MII stable with

(-) cvs myth
(-) xorg 6.8.0
(-) viaXvMC 0.13.0

You can also find an xorg-unichrom (6.8.0-r27) ebuild in the
viaarena-forums .


Best regards

Martin Engelhard



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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: LCD Monitor vs. LCD TV for Display

2005-02-04 Thread Per Åge Sørvik
On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 10:49:43 -0600, Andrew Close [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 09:11:32 -0500, Craig Partin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  In doing some recent window shopping it seemed to me that you get more
  for your money in buying an LCD monitor than a TV.  With a myth system
  the need for a tuner in the TV isn't really necessary.  You also
  wouldn't have any of the HDCP worries like that poor guy with the
  Samsung.
 snip
 
 a recent Wired magazine had several large LCD tv/monitors as featured
 products.  the Apple cinema display ranked 3rd only because it didn't
 have s-video in (it has DVI only) but it was the cheapest of the 4.
 i want to say it was the Jan issue, i'm about a month or so behind on
 my Wired reading. :)
 

The HP L2335 uses the same panel as the apple, is much cheaper and has
composite,svideo,component, vga  DVI-I inputs. And it's not as
expensive. I bought mine last summer, and have been very happy with
it.

Running HDTV res gives you thin black stripes top/bottom or a slightly
stretched picture. I think the 16:10 format screens is a good
compromise to watch both 16:9 and 4:3 content.

--  

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Re: [mythtv-users] I cannot see EPG data

2005-02-04 Thread Kristian Kalweit
Mattia Martinello schrieb:
I succesfully installed Mythtv with an Hauppauge WinTV Nova-CI DVB card.
I can see the TV programs, but I cannot see EPG data at all...
Is there anything I can check to make this working?
I know you are using Mythtv from CVS. Do you have enabled USING_DVB_ETI 
in settings.pro before compile?

Kristian.
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[mythtv-users] (no subject)

2005-02-04 Thread Brad


I have been struggling, on and off, with getting my DVD player
working with Myth for months (Its actually a DVD writer -- but I'll
wait to tackle that until I can at least get the player part working).
I eventually got it setup and could play dvds, but couldn't transcode
them. Well, I finally figured out that MTD was choking on its log file
at
/var/lib/mythdvd/temp/mtd.log - so I chmod 666 mtd.log
and voila! transocde appears to be working (haven't tested it yet, but
at least it gets me past the MTD is not running
warning).

Now, however, if I put a dvd in and attempt to play it (via
Xine), it stutters like mad. Totally unwatchable. Now this was working
perfectly when MTD was not running. Its almost like MTD and Xine are
fighting to control the DVD, gobbling all the CPU cycles in the
process, and causing the playback to stutter.

Anyone have any ideas on how to make MTD and Xine peacfully
co-exist? Any help would be much appreciated.

My setup: Pundit, Celeron 2.4, 512Mb, FC1

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RE: [mythtv-users] Nuvexport mpeg2cut and DVB Files

2005-02-04 Thread Joe Barnhart

--- Cory Papenfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   As a more general question for anyone who has one,
 what kind of 
 stream does a pcHDTV card produce?  Since a pcHDTV
 card doesn't have PID 
 processor does it spew out a TS then?

Hi Cory -- just tell me which utility to acquire and
run and I'll send you the results.  I have gigs of
recordings from pcHDTV on my box.  I'm using 0.16 on
my production system at present.

Joe Barnhart




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RE: [mythtv-users] Internal IR Receiver

2005-02-04 Thread mythtv-users
Shane wrote:
 
 
 I wish I could say. I saw this part when I looked for Rich, 
 but Maplins 
 doesn't give enough in the way of details to know how it will 
 work in your circuit.

No, not even a part number so you could find a datasheet for it.

 Unfortunately, I don't know much about electronics supliers 
 in the UK, but I 
 see that Farnell (uk.farnell.com) is your equivalent to our 
 Newark (US). And 
 appropriate part from them would be a Vishay TSOP4838 for 
 74p. It's 5V, low 
 current, easy to hook up, and filter out anything that's not 
 around 38kHz 
 (standard remote freq). But they'll probably kill you on shipping and 
 handling for that order.

Haha, oh yes, 20 UKP (~35USD) minimum order (and a 3UKP 'handling' charge)!

RS components are trade only (although I could probably get round that),
but again I suspect they have a stupid minimum order amount.

 Are there any other shops or supply houses in the UK? I'd be 
 willing to take a look for you gentlemen.

I *really* would like to find one, Maplin used to be quite good but have
gone too mainstream and now don't stock half the components they used to.
Farnell have too stupid a minumum order and RS (and all the others I've
found 
are trade only)

OTOH is there anywhere recommended that would deliver to Florida[1] for
reasonable prices?

TVM

Druid

[1] Have contacts able to do a bit of light import/export for me ;-)

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Re: [mythtv-users] 3 paths to take (Pundit-R with PVR-350)

2005-02-04 Thread Ryszard
to get the tv out on my pundit-r working i used the ati3.12 drivers
with the manual hex edit mentioned in these groups around november or
so.

interestingly enuff, i've also not got dvd playback working (with
menus) working on my pundit-r with xine, however i have on another box
with woody/unstable, so i guess its just a config thing.



On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 07:32:18 -0800, Alex Harford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've been tweaking my FC3 install for the past week.  Recording TV
 shows, flagging commercials, etc works flawlessly now.  But I'm trying
 to get the bugs ironed out, and there is a showstopper as far as I'm
 concered, and that's DVD playback.
 
 This is on a Pundit-R system, using the PVR-350 tv out, 2.4GHz
 Celeron, 512mb ram, 160gb hard drive (which already isn't enough :D )
 
 Ideally I would have DVD playback, with menus, through the TV out on
 the PVR-350.
 
 With the current state of the video player software though, it's not
 possible.  For one, mplayer doesn't support DVD menus, and even if it
 did, I can't get the audio to stay synced with the video.
 
 So, after thinking about it for a while, there are basically 4 choices I have.
 
 1) Buy another PCI video card with TV out, an nvidia.  I'd rather not
 spend more cash on the box right now, and I'm worried it may not fit
 in the case.
 
 2) Get TV out on the ATI9100 IGP.  Not much luck here so far, I tried
 installing the RPM on my FC3 system but I wasn't successful.  Has
 anyone does this, or have a link to a HOWTO?
 
 3) Mplayer with DVD menus.  I searched the mplayer mailing list, but
 it doesn't seem like there is much effort to get this working.
 
 4) Xine with an ivtv output driver.  There's some talk on the xine
 mailing list about doing this, and I'd be interested in helping get it
 working, so I'm trying to get in touch with those guys.
 
 Am I missing anything obvious here?  I'm really stoked about having
 the TV working, but I'd like to get it all working from one media
 centre box.
 
 Alex
 
 
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RE: [mythtv-users] Internal IR Receiver

2005-02-04 Thread William
 
 OTOH is there anywhere recommended that would deliver to 
 Florida[1] for reasonable prices?
 

Here in the usa the place to get parts is DigiKey (www.digikey.com). They do
not have a minimum order although they will charge a $5 fee for orders under
$25. They have a huge selection of parts. I get their catalog and its grown
to be the size of most phone books.

Also, radio shack carries a couple of items that may be of interest.


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Re: [mythtv-users] I cannot see EPG data

2005-02-04 Thread Mattia Martinello
Kristian Kalweit ha scritto:
I know you are using Mythtv from CVS. Do you have enabled 
USING_DVB_ETI in settings.pro before compile?
Yes, I am using Mythtv from CVS got on 2004-01-30.
I enabled USING_DVB_ETI in settings.pro before compile...
Bye
mattia
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Re: [mythtv-users] I cannot see EPG data

2005-02-04 Thread John Pullan
On Fri, 2005-02-04 at 11:44 +0100, Mattia Martinello wrote:
 Kristian Kalweit ha scritto:
 
  I know you are using Mythtv from CVS. Do you have enabled 
  USING_DVB_ETI in settings.pro before compile?
 
 Yes, I am using Mythtv from CVS got on 2004-01-30.
 I enabled USING_DVB_ETI in settings.pro before compile...
 
I hope you both mean USING_DVB_EIT :)


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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: apt-get dist-upgrade killed my ivtv (fc1)

2005-02-04 Thread Thomas Börkel
HI!
FYI: This alias does not work for me.
Check dmesg, if it ivtv found your tuners.
Thomas
Gabe Rubin wrote:
I searched the archives and added this to my /etc/modules.conf:
alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv
now on reboot, I get this in my log at the tail end:
(--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
(EE) FBDEV(0): mmap fbmem: Invalid argument
(EE) FBDEV(0): Map vid mem failed
Fatal server error:
AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0

On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 12:55:43 -0500, Gabe Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just to update, I did an apt-install ivtvdev and I still get the
blinking cursor, but this is my new log:
XFree86 Version 4.3.0 (Fedora Core 1: 4.3.0-55)
Release Date: 15 August 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.21-9.ELsmp i686 [ELF]
Build Date: 12 February 2004
Build Host: bugs.devel.redhat.com
   Before reporting any problems, please make sure you are using the most
   recent XFree86 packages available from Red Hat by checking for updates
   at http://rhn.redhat.com/errata or by using the Red Hat Network up2date
   tool.  If you still encounter problems, please file bug reports in the
   XFree86.org bugzilla at http://bugs.xfree86.org and/or Red Hat
   bugzilla at http://bugzilla.redhat.com
Module Loader present
OS Kernel: Linux version 2.4.22-1.2199.nptl_52.rhfc1.at ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
(gcc v
ersion 3.2.3 20030422 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.3-6)) #1 Wed Aug 11 19:48:01 EDT 2004
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Thu Feb  3 12:53:55 2005
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config
(==) ServerLayout single head configuration
(**) |--Screen Screen0 (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor NTSC Monitor
(**) |   |--Device Hauppauge PVR 350 iTVC15 Framebuffer
(**) |--Input Device Mouse0
(**) |--Input Device Keyboard0
(**) Option XkbRules xfree86
(**) XKB: rules: xfree86
(**) Option XkbModel pc105
(**) XKB: model: pc105
(**) Option XkbLayout us
(**) XKB: layout: us
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) |--Input Device DevInputMice
(**) FontPath set to unix/:7100
(**) RgbPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
(**) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions,/usr/X11R6/lib/modules

(++) using VT number 7
Fatal server error:
xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 7 (Input/output error)
If you encounter a server crash, please report the problem by filing a bug
report in the XFree86.org bugzilla at http://bugs.xfree86.org and/or Red Hat
bugzilla at http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla.  When filing your report, it
is very important that you explain your problem in as much detail as possible,
and include a complete description on how to reproduce the problem.  After
submitting the bug report, attach the following files as uncompressed
individual file attachments using the bugzilla file attachment feature:
   - X server log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log
   - X server config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config
   - Kernel log file: /var/log/messages
On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 12:47:54 -0500, Gabe Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I did an apt-get dist-upgrade on my system to update it and now ivtv
is not working.  I get the dreaded blinking cursor in the middle of
the tv with XKeepsCrashing as a running process.
It appears that the update removed the ivtvdev_drv.o file.  What do I
need to do?
Here is the output of my XFree86 log:
XFree86 Version 4.3.0 (Fedora Core 1: 4.3.0-55)
Release Date: 15 August 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.21-9.ELsmp i686 [ELF]
Build Date: 12 February 2004
Build Host: bugs.devel.redhat.com
   Before reporting any problems, please make sure you are using the most
   recent XFree86 packages available from Red Hat by checking for updates
   at http://rhn.redhat.com/errata or by using the Red Hat Network up2date
   tool.  If you still encounter problems, please file bug reports in the
   XFree86.org bugzilla at http://bugs.xfree86.org and/or Red Hat
   bugzilla at http://bugzilla.redhat.com
Module Loader present
OS Kernel: Linux version 2.4.22-1.2199.nptl_52.rhfc1.at ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
(gcc v
ersion 3.2.3 20030422 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.3-6)) #1 Wed Aug 11 19:48:01 EDT 2004
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Thu Feb  3 12:39:25 2005
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config
(==) ServerLayout single head configuration
(**) |--Screen Screen0 (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor NTSC Monitor
(**) |   |--Device Hauppauge PVR 350 iTVC15 Framebuffer
(**) |--Input Device Mouse0
(**) |--Input Device Keyboard0
(**) Option XkbRules xfree86
(**) XKB: rules: xfree86
(**) Option 

[mythtv-users] Bottom of GUI window hangs screen

2005-02-04 Thread Neil Bird
  I'm in the process of setting up Myth on a virgin FC3 box;  all's 
going /fairly/ well so far (just found the fix to the hanging-fonts 
problem earlier on the list), except:

  The GUI window (but seemingly only the settings pages) hangs off the 
bottom of the screen, often hiding some of the help prompt and the 
next/back/[something else] buttons.

  I'm running through an nVidia card (S-Video) at 1024x768 into my TV. 
 The normal KDE desktop fills the screen with nothing off the bottom. 
I've not had a chance to run TV mpegs through Myth yet, so I don't know 
if that'll be OK.

  Either Myth's creating the window too big for the display, it's 
resizing the display somehow to be off-screen or it thinks the window it 
has is bigger than it is.  It is odd that nothing seems missing hen in 
the 'normal' pages (currently, mostly just bumming around in MythMusic).

  Any thoughts as to what to check?  Thinking about it, I ought to do 
an xwininfo on myth in normal  settings mode to see what it thinks the 
window size is.

  I did try specifying the window size as 1024x768 instead of 0x0 
('full') to no avail., and when I tried smaller (800x600) it didn't 
'xrandr' the display size as I expected (although maybe that's right in 
this instance) but used just the top-left 800x600, tiling the theme's 
background across the rest of the screen.

  On a slight aside, what would be the recommended display settings for 
me?  I feel I should be setting the GUI and  separately, with GUI as 
full/1024x768 and TV as 'DVD PAL' (720x576).  I'm using a PVR-350, FWIW; 
 I don;t know what its recording res. is;  maybe I'd be better off 
using that size.

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RE: [mythtv-users] Nuvexport mpeg2cut and DVB Files

2005-02-04 Thread Cory Papenfuss
Hi Cory -- just tell me which utility to acquire and
run and I'll send you the results.  I have gigs of
recordings from pcHDTV on my box.  I'm using 0.16 on
my production system at present.
Joe Barnhart
	A number of programs will identify what type they are (I've 
installed lots of different mpg utils)

mpginfo file.nuv
streamtype file.nuv
tcprobe -i file.nuv
tcscan -i file.nuv (will parse stream to discover what types are in it)
-Cory
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RE: [mythtv-users] Internal IR Receiver

2005-02-04 Thread mythtv-users
Andy wrote:


 On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:42:28 -, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  RS components are trade only (although I could probably get round 
  that), but again I suspect they have a stupid minimum order amount.
 
 
 RS www sales aren't trade only, just their  in-person 
 collection counters are. I've ordered loads of stuff from 
 them over the web.

D'Oh!!

All the times I've not ordered as I thought they were trade only
and didn't sell to the public, g.
 
Even more annoyingly I *have* a RS catalogue.

 No minimum order size I believe although the postal rates are 
 more attractive if you can put together a 'larger' order:-

Ha, no problems, I'll be ordering all the rest of the components at
the same time anyway.

For reference if anyone else wants the same part ( TSOP1738 )it is 
RS stock number 286-1419 and is 83p

Thanks.

Druid

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Re: [mythtv-users] Thank You

2005-02-04 Thread Allan Stirling
Kevin Wentland wrote:
I have already sent my thank you email to Shelly Palmer, Chair of the
Advanced Media Committee New York Chapter of the National Academy of
Television Arts  Sciences. on his recent write up about geeks and DIY
DVRs.
His email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The article.
http://advancedmediacommittee.typepad.com/emmyadvancedmedia/2005/01/mythtv_a_nonmyt.html
Thank you?!?!? Why, do you like being called a thief?
Cheers,
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: apt-get dist-upgrade killed my ivtv (fc1)

2005-02-04 Thread Charles Waddell
apt-get made ivtv 0.2.x stable. I had the same issue, but I couldn't get it 
working so I apt-get remove ivtv-[new version] apt-get install ivtv=0.1.10. 
This solved my problems.

--Daniel
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HI!
FYI: This alias does not work for me.
Check dmesg, if it ivtv found your tuners.
Thomas
Gabe Rubin wrote:
I searched the archives and added this to my /etc/modules.conf:
alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv
now on reboot, I get this in my log at the tail end:
(--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
(EE) FBDEV(0): mmap fbmem: Invalid argument
(EE) FBDEV(0): Map vid mem failed
Fatal server error:
AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0

On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 12:55:43 -0500, Gabe Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just to update, I did an apt-install ivtvdev and I still get the
blinking cursor, but this is my new log:
XFree86 Version 4.3.0 (Fedora Core 1: 4.3.0-55)
Release Date: 15 August 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.21-9.ELsmp i686 [ELF]
Build Date: 12 February 2004
Build Host: bugs.devel.redhat.com
   Before reporting any problems, please make sure you are using the 
most
   recent XFree86 packages available from Red Hat by checking for 
updates
   at http://rhn.redhat.com/errata or by using the Red Hat Network 
up2date
   tool.  If you still encounter problems, please file bug reports in 
the
   XFree86.org bugzilla at http://bugs.xfree86.org and/or Red Hat
   bugzilla at http://bugzilla.redhat.com

Module Loader present
OS Kernel: Linux version 2.4.22-1.2199.nptl_52.rhfc1.at ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
(gcc v
ersion 3.2.3 20030422 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.3-6)) #1 Wed Aug 11 19:48:01 EDT 
2004
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Thu Feb  3 12:53:55 2005
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config
(==) ServerLayout single head configuration
(**) |--Screen Screen0 (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor NTSC Monitor
(**) |   |--Device Hauppauge PVR 350 iTVC15 Framebuffer
(**) |--Input Device Mouse0
(**) |--Input Device Keyboard0
(**) Option XkbRules xfree86
(**) XKB: rules: xfree86
(**) Option XkbModel pc105
(**) XKB: model: pc105
(**) Option XkbLayout us
(**) XKB: layout: us
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) |--Input Device DevInputMice
(**) FontPath set to unix/:7100
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(++) using VT number 7

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[mythtv-users] Re: mythtv and encrypted channels

2005-02-04 Thread Yvon free
  4. Re: mythtv and encrypted channels
 thanks!  i update my cvs this morning and at last it works.
i changed the settings.pro file with the link to frontend.
i'm with a 2.6 kernel so i copy /usr/src/linux/include to  another directory 
and made the link to :
INCLUDEPATH += /usr/src/linux-tv
./configure
qmake mythtv.pro
make
make install
thanks for your very usefull help
Yvon

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Re: [mythtv-users] myth on an old machine(which video capture card)

2005-02-04 Thread Cory Papenfuss
I know that having a slow machine will affect my experience, but I
just want to get familiar with it before I drop a couple hundred bucks
more for hardware.  So the Hauppauge 250 wouldn't work as well as the
350 you're saying?
	As long as you understand that, I think it's a great place to 
start.  I stared with a BTTV card on a dual celeron 450.  It was enough 
for a proof of concept, but the software encoding of that type of capture 
card was too much for anything over 320x480 on it.  My current setup is a 
PIII-800 with dual PVR-250's.

	My thought on the 250 vs 350 is that the 350 is a waste of money. 
No offense to anyone using or working on it, but it's a very weird setup 
with video overlays, non-Xv-accelerated X, and MPEG2-only decode.  A 650 
MHz machine should *NOT* be marginal to play SDTV MPEG2 streams IMO. 
Remember once upon a time when a 450 MHz machine was fast and playing 
DVD's on them took about 60% CPU?  That's what the Mythbox should be 
doing, but it seems there are some code optimizations that are necessary. 
From what I've heard on the list recently, the internal MPEG2 decoding 
library has been changed, which helps CPU useage.  Of course things are a 
bit different if you want on-the-fly filters (deinterlacing, etc)... 
that'll be tough on a 650.

	For your setup, I'd recommend getting a PVR-250 if you don't have 
a bttv-based capture card already to play with.  They're =$100 if you 
look hard enough, and they'll always be useful.  Once the PVR-150's driver 
is debugged a bit more, it'll be the way to go.

	You'll need a vid card that has Xv, which just about any card 5 
years old will do handily.  NVidia is probably the most used and most 
debugged, but you certainly don't need anything fancy.  Another 
hand-me-down MX400 or even a TNT2 with tvout will work.

Dewey,
Can you pause and rewind live tv on your machine?  I think Khanh is
trying to say I won't be able to do that with the 250?  I bought an
nvidia fx5200 for the video out and a soundblaster card for sound.
When I say the Hauppauge cards are hard to come by...  go to pretty
much any online merchant and every single one of them have those cards
backordered :(
	E-bay, but do a little research.  A very few of them aren't 
supported (Rosalyn-based).

-Cory
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Re: [mythtv-users] Thank You

2005-02-04 Thread Colin Smillie
Allan, I think you should read the link below, its not the NYT Article...

http://advancedmediacommittee.typepad.com/emmyadvancedmedia/2005/01/mythtv_a_nonmyt.html
 
 Thank you?!?!? Why, do you like being called a thief?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Allan.
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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: LCD Monitor vs. LCD TV for Display

2005-02-04 Thread Greg Cope
As much as I'd love to spend $/£1300 on something like this, I don't
have the spare cash at the moment.

In the interium I am thinking of getting a 19 LCD Monitor for £200 to
replace my 21 TV - I know the formats are not quite the same so the
19 will be smaller, but I need a tv that accepts Svideo (mine does
not!).

Its that or spending £500 on a 32 WideScreen non HD TV , but I do not
see the point as in a few years we will have HD tv in europe (UK
eventually) so I'd be replacing that again (and by then LCD tv's
will be half/third the price they are now).

Am I makeing a mistake? 

Greg

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:10:11 +0100, Per Åge Sørvik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 10:49:43 -0600, Andrew Close [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 09:11:32 -0500, Craig Partin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   In doing some recent window shopping it seemed to me that you get more
   for your money in buying an LCD monitor than a TV.  With a myth system
   the need for a tuner in the TV isn't really necessary.  You also
   wouldn't have any of the HDCP worries like that poor guy with the
   Samsung.
  snip
 
  a recent Wired magazine had several large LCD tv/monitors as featured
  products.  the Apple cinema display ranked 3rd only because it didn't
  have s-video in (it has DVI only) but it was the cheapest of the 4.
  i want to say it was the Jan issue, i'm about a month or so behind on
  my Wired reading. :)
 
 
 The HP L2335 uses the same panel as the apple, is much cheaper and has
 composite,svideo,component, vga  DVI-I inputs. And it's not as
 expensive. I bought mine last summer, and have been very happy with
 it.
 
 Running HDTV res gives you thin black stripes top/bottom or a slightly
 stretched picture. I think the 16:10 format screens is a good
 compromise to watch both 16:9 and 4:3 content.
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: FC3 rpms, mythweb, apache, and 2G+ files

2005-02-04 Thread Steve Malenfant
I've got the same problem on FC2, there is no 2 gigs file support
build in httpd from the repository.  I've transfered my web server
from Windows 2000 to FC2 and now I'm getting these problems, just not
cool.  It seems to be a common problem with lots of applications these
days, kind of annoying, but I can't complain I'm not doing the work...

Steve

On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 12:22:22 -0600, dead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Axel Thimm wrote:
 It looks to me like apache that's not supporting the 2GB files.  When I
 do a wget to my backend box, this is what goes into the error_log for
 httpd:
 
 [Thu Feb 03 08:10:24 2005] [error] [client a.b.c.d] (75)Value too large
 for defined data type: access to /path/to/my.nuv failed
 
 This is an FC3 box built using Jared's guide.  httpd-2.0.52-3.1 is the
 version that shows up doing an rpm -q.  Axel, what version do you
 have???
 
 
  FC2/x86_64.
 
 FC3/i386 here...
 the error I get in apache's error_log is:
 
 [Mon Jan 31 00:00:17 2005] [error] [client 10.1.1.107] (75)Value too
 large for defined data type: access to
 /mythweb/video_dir/1013_20050130223500_20050130233500.nuv failed,
 referer: http://10.1.1.23/mythweb/recorded_programs.php
 
 is that a php or apache error? =)
 
 apache = httpd-2.0.52-3.1
 php = php-4.3.10-3.2
 
 
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[mythtv-users] Re: myth on an old machine(which video capture card)

2005-02-04 Thread Kelly Reed Schuerman
I used an Athlon 650 for two years as a frontend/backend with two WinTV
model 401 cards.  I tried all kinds of settings in the recording profiles
until I could successfully record two shows at a time.  The video quality
wasn't great but it was good enough to watch any programs that I missed. 
The family approval factor wasn't high but it was positive. The whole
time I wanted to upgrade my hardware but it still served its purpose.

Sherm

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Re: [mythtv-users] Thank You

2005-02-04 Thread Andy Whitworth
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 08:19:14 -0500, Colin Smillie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Allan, I think you should read the link below, its not the NYT Article...
 
 http://advancedmediacommittee.typepad.com/emmyadvancedmedia/2005/01/mythtv_a_nonmyt.html
  
  Thank you?!?!? Why, do you like being called a thief?
 
  Cheers,
 
  Allan.

Personally I read the second article as being supportive of homebrew
PVR'ers - did you actually read it ?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Only static of FC3 with PVR350

2005-02-04 Thread Colin Smillie
I had some smilar problems with with FC3 and my PVR350 card.  I
believe I resolved it by adding the following to my modprobe.conf:

options ivtv tuner=2
options msp3400 once=0 simpler=1 simple=0


On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 18:45:48 -0800 (PST), [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 I have installed Mythtv on a Fedora core 3 machine, with a PVR350 card.
 Installed ivtv and run mythtvsetup. Frontend  backend both start fine
 but when I watch tv all I see is static. (But I can change channels
 and see which station's static I am looking at ;-) )
 I ran /usr/bin/ivtvctl -p 4 (before that I did not even see static)
 
 In mythtvsetup for the Capture card not sure what dev to use, I have
 Video Device : /dev/video , video0, video16 , 24 , 32, 48 and video4linux .
 Default Input is Tuner0 - Cable but have tried Composite0.
 
 In Input Connections I have (Tuner 0) -cable and the rest (none)
 
 I tried the PVR350 in a Win2000 box just to check the cable connection
 and I get TV fine.
 Any tips or hints appreciated.
 
 Danny Aldham
 
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: DVD-burning

2005-02-04 Thread Lane Schwartz
On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 18:36:08 +0100, Didde Brockman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just wanted to ask the general question of what software you all are
 using for recording DVD-r's. I have been trying to get cdrecord to
 work with no avail with my AOPEN DUW1608/ARR, but it only exits with
 the message...
 
cdrecord: Drive does not support TAO recording.
cdrecord: Illegal write mode for this drive.
 
 ... when running...
 
 cdrecord -dev=/dev/hdc /some/where/over/the/rainbow.img
 
 ... and I can't seem to specify another mode either. Perhaps my AOPEN
 isn't supported? Any ideans?
 

I use k3b. Very nice graphical interface.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythweather radar imagery

2005-02-04 Thread Andrew Close
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 00:52:56 -0600, M S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can anyone else even verify that they can get radar
 data?  If so, give me the location you are using and I'll try that.
 I've yet to hear it's working for me.  

Glendale Heights, IL - works fine here.  i think it defaults to
somewhere in CA, which worked fine as well...


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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: apt-get dist-upgrade killed my ivtv (fc1)

2005-02-04 Thread Gabe Rubin
On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 07:56:00 -0500, Charles Waddell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 apt-get made ivtv 0.2.x stable. I had the same issue, but I couldn't get it
 working so I apt-get remove ivtv-[new version] apt-get install ivtv=0.1.10.
 This solved my problems.
 
 --Daniel
This did not work for me:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# apt-get install ivtv=0.1.10
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: Version ='0.1.10' for 'ivtv' was not found


I am looking to install this version and need to know the syntax in
order to do so:
ivtv-0.1.10-49.1_pre2_ck100zz.rhfc1.at.i386.rpm 
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] HD resolutions thrown out: horizontal sync start not multiple of 8

2005-02-04 Thread Cory Papenfuss
Native Resolution: 1280x720 (16x9 aspect ratio)
H 30.0 - 70.0kHz
V 50 - 87Hz
Dot Clock = 100
Every 720p resolution that I have tried is being rejected by X.org server 
with a message that the horizontal sync start () not a multiple of 8, 
where  is the horizontal sync start for the Modeline.

	It's a hardware limitation from what an nvidia guy told me.  If 
you read it carefully, it says horizontal sync... not picture length.  So, 
if your modeline is something like this (sorry, it's not 720p):

ModeLine ATSC-1080-60i 74.25 1920 1960 2016 2200 1080 1082 1088 1125 Interlace
The 1960 number is the one it's talking about.  That one must be a 
multiple of 8.  The active picture size will still be 1920x1080 if you 
change the 1960 to 1962 or whatever.  I think there are a few other limits 
on multiples of 8s, but the error message changes IIRC.

	All that number is doing is changing the size of the black off the 
rightside of the screen.  If you round it up/down to the nearest multiple 
of 8, you should be set... the picture will move ever so slightly left or 
right.

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[mythtv-users] [NEW THEME] 'MythCenter'

2005-02-04 Thread Jeroen Brosens
Hello list,
I found some spare time to create a new theme, it is inspired on
Windows Media Center. It should work on current CVS builds too. Grab it here:
http://www.fotoniq.nl/projects/mythtv
Regards,
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Re: [mythtv-users] HD resolutions thrown out: horizontal sync start not multiple of 8

2005-02-04 Thread Preston Crow
On Fri, 2005-02-04 at 09:19, Comments wrote:
 Every 720p resolution that I have tried is being rejected by X.org 
 server with a message that the horizontal sync start () not a 
 multiple of 8, where  is the horizontal sync start for the Modeline.

Yup, I had the same issue.  I found a bunch of sites where people listed
the official modelines for HDTV resolutions, and they were all
slightly different.  Most of them didn't work until I found this one:

# From: http://www.gag.com/cgi-bin/blosxom/bdale/pvr
Modeline720p 74.25 1280 1312 1592 1648 720 735 742 757

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Re: [mythtv-users] Hardware Review

2005-02-04 Thread Andrew Close
On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 14:52:41 -0800, Kenneth Hong
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 I may go with this suggestion (ie. go for a more powerful front-end), but I
 still have a few questions about the Xbox option before I discard the idea
 altogether: 
   
snip
 (I have no soldering experience, but I'm willing to try anything that
 doesn't get me too far over my head.) 

the soldering isn't really that difficult.  it's intimidating, but not
difficult if you take your time.  check out xbox-scene.com for
tutorials and howtos on soldering/modding.

i haven't had the time to install Linux/Myth on my xbox yet.  i'm
still trying to get my main MythBox configured and working. :)  there
just aren't enough hours in a day...
 

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Re: [mythtv-users] Torrentocracy with Mandrake 10.1

2005-02-04 Thread Donavan Stanley
On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 07:44:49 +, Paul Woodward
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think Isaac, especially in light of NYC artical and similar slurs, wants to 
 keep this project and associated records (such as this list) squeaky clean so 
 that noone ever has a cause to legislate against this kind of project.

It's ALWAYS been the position that discussion about that plugin was
not welcome on the mythtv lists.  It has nothing to do with the NYT
article.
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Re: [mythtv-users] [NEW THEME] 'MythCenter'

2005-02-04 Thread Josh Burks
It looks real nice. Can't wait to try it.

I still don't understand why everyone wants to clone the WinXPMCE
look though

Josh


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 I found some spare time to create a new theme, it is inspired on
 Windows Media Center. It should work on current CVS builds too. Grab it here:
 
 http://www.fotoniq.nl/projects/mythtv
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] [NEW THEME] 'MythCenter'

2005-02-04 Thread Andrew Close
On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 16:16:42 +0100, Jeroen Brosens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello list,
 
 I found some spare time to create a new theme, it is inspired on
 Windows Media Center. It should work on current CVS builds too. Grab it here:
 
 http://www.fotoniq.nl/projects/mythtv

Hi Jeroen,

it looks pretty nice.  do you have any more screenshots? :)


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Re: [mythtv-users] [NEW THEME] 'MythCenter'

2005-02-04 Thread Jeff Simpson
Screenshot looks sXe, good work! I'll have to try it out when I get a chance

 - Jeff

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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: myth on an old machine(which video capture card)

2005-02-04 Thread Greg Foster
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 08:15:07 -0600 (CST), Kelly Reed Schuerman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I used an Athlon 650 for two years as a frontend/backend with two WinTV
 model 401 cards.  I tried all kinds of settings in the recording profiles
 until I could successfully record two shows at a time.  The video quality
 wasn't great but it was good enough to watch any programs that I missed.
 The family approval factor wasn't high but it was positive. The whole
 time I wanted to upgrade my hardware but it still served its purpose.
 
 Sherm
 
[snip]

Running a PVR-350 here with a PII-400 Mhz Dell.  Menus aren't as
snappy as they could be I'm sure, but simoultaneous playback and
recording is fantastic due to the onboard encoding/decoding.  As
others have mentioned, the only drawback to this config that I've hit
so far is the inability to play DVD/DivX content through the pvr-350
on lower-powered machines.

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[mythtv-users] Air2PC firmware location

2005-02-04 Thread Tom E. Craddock, Jr.
Howdy,
Im running a 2.6.10 kernel from kernel.org, which has been compiled to 
use the hdtv3k as a DVB card.  It also has support for the air2pc card 
as well.  I just got mine air2pc card today and Im not sure where I 
should put the dvb-fe-nxt2002.fw.  I thought it was /lib/firmware; I 
didnt have that dir so I made it, and copied the *.fw to that dir, as 
well as to /etc/hotplug, but I cant get the card to tune any channels.  
Then dmesg says the following when I run azap

nxt2002: Waiting for firmware upload (dvb-fe-nxt2002.fw)...
nxt2002: Waiting for firmware upload(2)...
nxt2002: no firmware upload (timeout or file not found?)
nxt2002: timeout error writing tuner
and so on.  I see that in my modprobe.conf when kudzu detected the card 
it put in an alias eth1 skystar2, should that be there? Shouldnt it be 
some other alias than eth1?  Could that be my problem?  In the rest of 
dmesg, I can see that the card is found and is initialized

ACPI: PCI interrupt :01:08.0[A] - GSI 10 (level, low) - IRQ 10
drivers/media/dvb/b2c2/skystar2.c: FlexCopIIB(rev.195) chip found
drivers/media/dvb/b2c2/skystar2.c: the chip has 38 hardware filters
DVB: registering new adapter (SkyStar2).
saa7115: starting probe for adapter SkyStar2 (0x1)
flexcop_i2c_func
DVB: registering frontend 0 (Nextwave nxt2002 VSB/QAM frontend)...
nxt2002: Waiting for firmware upload (dvb-fe-nxt2002.fw)...
nxt2002: Waiting for firmware upload(2)...
nxt2002: no firmware upload (timeout or file not found?)
The same channels can be picked up by the pchdtv3k, so Im sure the 
air2pc should be able to get them with the same antenna.  Anyone have 
any ideas as to where I place the firmware so that it can be uploaded?

Tom
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Re: [mythtv-users] Which Window Manager?

2005-02-04 Thread Darren Hart
Roy Murphy wrote:
Now that we've had a nice long thread discussing distributions, let's
talk about window managers. KDE and Gnome sould like *way* too much
overhead for a Myth frontend. Anyone using other window managers?
You can get by without one as I did for a while.  If you spawn other 
apps though, like mplayer or mame, you will have focus issues without 
one.  In that case you might try ratpoison - as mentioned on this list a 
while back.  And you are right, there is absolutely no need to run KDE 
or Gnome on a dedicated myth machine - they shouldn't even be installed 
(IMNSHO).



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Re: [mythtv-users] Which Window Manager?

2005-02-04 Thread Darren Hart

Sorry - I've always been curious - what's so wrong with KDE?  I have a 
Barton2500 w/ 512MB RAM on a combined frontend/backend box.  Are the 
lightweight WMs more for people with Epia boxes, and/or those that just 
want to try something else?  I'm just wondering if there would be any 
actual benefit for setup's like mine to switch to a lighter WM?
There is nothing wrong with KDE as a desktop environment (although I am 
a gnome user), but for a dedicated mythbox it's just a flat out waste of 
disk space, RAM, and processor cycles.  Typical Myth usage doesn't use 
anything that a Desktop Environment provides.  No multiple desktops, no 
application servers, no file browsers, no CORBA (gnome), no advanced 
clipboards, panels, menus, applets etc etc etc.

If you are running myth as an application on a desktop computer, and not 
in your entertainment center, then by all means, use a full fledged desktop.

Thanks.
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[mythtv-users] Re: How to compute next wakeup/recording time?

2005-02-04 Thread Romain Kang
On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 02:37:33AM -0500, Isaac Richards wrote:
 Autoshutdown and wakeup before a recording has been a feature since 0.16.

Yes, I appreciate not having to leave the mythbox on fulltime.
Alexander's hack is welcome because it means I can shutdown on demand
without waiting for the backend idle timer to fire.

Romain
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Re: [mythtv-users] Passively-cooled FX5200 DVI-out video cards?

2005-02-04 Thread Robert Tsai
On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 10:32:41PM -0800, Brad Templeton wrote:
 However, be warned, nobody here has gotten DVI output to work at
 1080i from linux. People have gotten 720p to work.

So does everyone have a nice 720p HDTV display? Or do people just use
the S-Video output and watch their HD content in 16:9 480p? [I'm
putting together an HD-3000-based box.]

Is it known if the problem lies with video card drivers, or Linux, or
X? Or is it just that the magic modelines haven't yet been discovered?

If it's a development problem, I'm game to trying to fix whatever it
is, but I have to get my machine assembled before I can see what's
incomplete ...

Thanks,
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[mythtv-users] Re: Updated gentoo, now everything mythtv segfaults

2005-02-04 Thread Jim Coates
I've tried to do a backtrace but when I follow the instructions, I don't get 
any information from gdb.  Just a list of addresses.  I did compile with 
debug on and release off.

lisa bin # gdb ./mythfrontend
GNU gdb 6.0
Copyright 2003 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain 
conditions.
Type show copying to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type show warranty for details.
This GDB was configured as i686-pc-linux-gnu...Using host libthread_db 
library /lib/libthread_db.so.1.

(gdb) handle SIGPIPE nostop
SignalStop  Print   Pass to program Description
SIGPIPE   NoYes Yes Broken pipe
(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/bin/mythfrontend
warning: Unable to find dynamic linker breakpoint function.
GDB will be unable to debug shared library initializers
and track explicitly loaded dynamic code.
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x41f6031a in ?? ()
(gdb) thread apply all bt full
(gdb) bt
#0  0x41f6031a in ?? ()
#1  0x40dabd45 in ?? ()
#2  0x40db93e2 in ?? ()
#3  0x40016f90 in ?? ()
#4  0x40c9cca0 in ?? ()
#5  0x40017390 in ?? ()
#6  0xb924 in ?? ()
#7  0xb924 in ?? ()
#8  0x4000b430 in ?? ()
#9  0x0001 in ?? ()
#10 0xb974 in ?? ()
#11 0xb97c in ?? ()
(gdb) finish
Run till exit from #0  0x41f6031a in ?? ()
Program terminated with signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
The program no longer exists.
(gdb) quit
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Re: [mythtv-users] [NEW THEME] 'MythCenter'

2005-02-04 Thread Kevin Kuphal
Josh Burks wrote:
It looks real nice. Can't wait to try it.
I still don't understand why everyone wants to clone the WinXPMCE
look though
 

Because, generally speaking, it is clean and usable and not cluttered as 
a good set-top box UI should be. 

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Re: [mythtv-users] recorded video preview colors?

2005-02-04 Thread Travis Osterman
 [...] recorded video previews with colors that made the
 frames look like photo negatives, i.e. the wrong
 colors.  I added support for my r128 into my kernel
 and that solved the problem for that machine

I'm having the same inverted preview colors on my i865G chipset output
on my gentoo 0.16 install.  There were no problems for me under FC1
using 0.16 on the same box so I'm anxious to see what the solution is
too.

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Re: [mythtv-users] set up of mythtv

2005-02-04 Thread Travis Osterman
 Mythtv comes up . but the problem is it says : =-
 Couldnot connect to the master backend server -- is it running? is the
 IP address set for it in the setup program correct?
 could anyone please help me in this regard

Could you tell us what operating system you're using?  Also, if you
having already checked, tailing the the mythbackend log (tail -f
/var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log [on my machine]) and checking to see
whether the backend (/etc/init.d/mythbackend status) and mysql are
running (/etc/init.d/mysql status) may be helpful.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Air2PC firmware location

2005-02-04 Thread Nate Carlson
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005, Tom E. Craddock, Jr. wrote:
Im running a 2.6.10 kernel from kernel.org, which has been compiled to 
use the hdtv3k as a DVB card.  It also has support for the air2pc card 
as well. I just got mine air2pc card today and Im not sure where I 
should put the dvb-fe-nxt2002.fw.  I thought it was /lib/firmware; I 
didnt have that dir so I made it, and copied the *.fw to that dir, as 
well as to /etc/hotplug, but I cant get the card to tune any channels. 
Then dmesg says the following when I run azap

nxt2002: Waiting for firmware upload (dvb-fe-nxt2002.fw)...
nxt2002: Waiting for firmware upload(2)...
nxt2002: no firmware upload (timeout or file not found?)
nxt2002: timeout error writing tuner
/usr/lib/hotplug/firmware is the correct location on Debian at least.

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[mythtv-users] Re:I cannot see EPG data

2005-02-04 Thread Alexander Petkov
===
Yes, I am using Mythtv from CVS got on 2004-01-30. 
===

Hehe, I think we all know what you meant...

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Re: [mythtv-users] Customizing Channels in MythTV

2005-02-04 Thread PAUL WILLIAMSON
 Evan Stenmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/3/2005 11:14:22 PM 
Does anyone else on campus run myth?  
I don't know of anyone that does

Is there an xml source for the tv listings?  
I don't understand.  Please explain what the xml source is.

Call zap2it.  The university is probably big enough that 
it desrves it's own set of listings.  There must be more people 
there running either myth or mce or tivo or replay or sage...
They would all benefit from the listings showing up correctly.

It's not listed on Zap2it if that's what you mean (that's what MythTV

gets the program listing from right?)

I was thinking that maybe the university provided a TV schedule 
somewhere on it's internal university network web someplace.
I know there are a few college campuses that do this.

Maybe you could run some 
sort of port-processing routine to change the channels 
in the database with a simple mysql script after 
mythfilldatabase every day.  

I was thinking about that.  I have a small amount of mysql knowledge. 
I 
imagine that could be the best/easiest way.

If not, I think there's a way to modify the channels within Myth.
Actually, I know there is.  Although after writing all this, zap2it 
may just be the right avenue to go with to start.

Paul

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Re: [mythtv-users] Thank You

2005-02-04 Thread Joseph A. Caputo
On Friday 04 February 2005 9:22, Andy Whitworth wrote:
 On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 08:19:14 -0500, Colin Smillie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  Allan, I think you should read the link below, its not the NYT 
Article...
  
  
http://advancedmediacommittee.typepad.com/emmyadvancedmedia/2005/01/mythtv_a_nonmyt.html
   
   Thank you?!?!? Why, do you like being called a thief?
  
   Cheers,
  
   Allan.
 
 Personally I read the second article as being supportive of homebrew
 PVR'ers - did you actually read it ?

I disagree... one of the main points of the article still seems to be 
saying that homebrew PVR-ers are trying to get free TV.  What these 
TV industry types don't seem to understand is that the issue is not 
about getting something for free (as in beer) -- heck, many of us 
actually spend *more* on cable, satellite  premium subscriptions than 
the average viewer -- it's about *control* and the freedom (as in 
speech) to enjoy the content we've paid for in a manner of our own 
choosing.  I don't mind paying for access to content; I do resent being 
locked in to viewing the way some cable company exec has determined (at 
a particular time, in a particular format, or on a particular device).  
As a matter of fact, I would probably spend more on cable TV if the 
content was open.  Right now, the silly hoops that one has to jump 
through in order to use Myth (or Tivo, etc) with a digital cable STB is 
the single biggest factor in keeping me from upgrading to digital 
cable.

Take books as an analogy.  Imagine what would happen if the publishing 
industry only sold books that required special glasses to read them.  
Now imagine that each publishing house's books could only be read with 
their own proprietary glasses.  Such a scheme would actually cause me 
to reduce my spending on books, because of the hassle (note: this is 
exactly why e-books haven't been a large success to date).  In such an 
environment, what I would want is not free (beer) books, but the 
ability to enjoy the books I've purchased on the beach or on a plane 
without needing to lug around several different pairs of glasses.  If 
the publishers are not willing to provide books in an open format 
(i.e., plain paper), then I demand the right and the ability to 
transfer them to such a medium.  This is why PVRs are increasing in 
popularity, and I'll bet that the first content provider to realize 
that and adjust their business model to fit this demand will make a 
killing.

-JAC
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Re: [mythtv-users] osd overscan

2005-02-04 Thread Travis Osterman
 I've set X to overscan on my epia M9000 and fixed up the myth gui so
 that it pretty much fits (some screens remain too large). However, the
 osd menus etc. are too large and partly off the screen. Is there
 anyway to adjust the overscan percentages and so forth just for the
 OSD. Changing the ones under tv playback settings results in a poorer
 tv pictue.

I had a slighty related issue with fontsize on my frontend and another
user recommended setting DisplaySize in xorg.conf manually which
worked out wonderfully for me.

Screen
  DisplaySize   203   152 # mm

I don't know if it'll help your situation, but might be worth a try.

-- Travis
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[mythtv-users] Hauppauge Daisy-Chain or Red Herring?

2005-02-04 Thread joe . white

I was told at a local linux users group
meeting that it was possible to daisy-chain Hauppauge x50s together so
that only one card need receive an external cable connection. I haven't
been able to find any reference to this ability. The guy was a blurter
and an expounder so he may have been full of it. Has anyone else
daisy chained these cards?

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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythweather radar imagery

2005-02-04 Thread Pete Stagman
Works for me.
Taunton, MA

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On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:14:10 -0600, Andrew Close [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 00:52:56 -0600, M S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Can anyone else even verify that they can get radar
  data?  If so, give me the location you are using and I'll try that.
  I've yet to hear it's working for me.
 
 Glendale Heights, IL - works fine here.  i think it defaults to
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Re: [mythtv-users] Hardware Review

2005-02-04 Thread Greg Foster
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:42:07 -0600, Andrew Close [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 14:52:41 -0800, Kenneth Hong
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 snip
  I may go with this suggestion (ie. go for a more powerful front-end), but I
  still have a few questions about the Xbox option before I discard the idea
  altogether:
 
 snip
  (I have no soldering experience, but I'm willing to try anything that
  doesn't get me too far over my head.)
 
 the soldering isn't really that difficult.  it's intimidating, but not
 difficult if you take your time.  check out xbox-scene.com for
 tutorials and howtos on soldering/modding.
 
 i haven't had the time to install Linux/Myth on my xbox yet.  i'm
 still trying to get my main MythBox configured and working. :)  there
 just aren't enough hours in a day...

[snip]

There's a soft-mod if you've got the right xbox.  Boot with the
appropriate game, and you're installing within minutes !

Greg.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Recorded Show preview color inverted?

2005-02-04 Thread Jeff Simpson
Oh, I love ME-TOOs

put one in for me, too, I have the same problem. Except mine is a
newer PVR-350 (rev990). Used to work fine, now goes berserk.

in a related note, do you know if it's possible to put a timeout on
that little preview window? maybe after 10 minutes of previewing the
same one, stop it? Reason I ask is that with framebuffer, it just
sucks up CPU playing a video in that little box, so I'll be sitting at
my PC wondering why 99% of the CPU is taken, only to find that it's
because I left myth in the watch-recordings screen.

 - Jeff


On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 08:00:19 -0800, Anthony Floyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Ben,
 
 I'm afraid I don't have any help for you.  I just wanted to add a me
 too.  Gentoo with a 2.6.10 kernel, ivtv-0.2.0-rc3, etc.  1x350,
 1x250.  The 350 is an older model (don't have the specs on hand right
 now) and I've had the problem with it well before I put the new 250
 in. Fortunately for me, it doesn't bug the wife too much.
 
 A
 
 
 On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 13:21:25 -0800 (PST), Ben Dash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  MythTV 0.16 is working great for me on Gentoo, and the
  install was a breeze once the problems with my PVR 250
  type 50 were resolved.
 
  The only problem that I'm having which I haven't so
  far slved is that the preview of my recorded shows
  looks like photograph negatives.  It's like RBG
  instead of RGB, everyone looks like a smurf, i.e.
  their faces are blue.
 
  Both live TV and fullscreen recorded shows look fine
  as do the frame captures used in mythweb recorded
  shows.
 
  Any ideas?
 
  This is a very minor cosmetic problem, but my this is
  poentially important in the Wife Acceptance Test
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Stumped

2005-02-04 Thread Greg Thoreson


Here is the ethernet traffic i observed during one such error. The
duplicate ACKs looks like it may be the issue ... but a grep through the
larger file show that this happens quite often ... at least in the 20
seconds or so that I captured...

Maybe you have to run the automatic transcoder? to get this to work?


Greg


On Thu, 2005-02-03 at 22:03, Greg Thoreson wrote:
 Yes ... that looks like the problem I am having. I have watched live TV
 now for 5+ hours without a problem. But If I try and view a recording
 ... 10 minutes max before it stops
 
 I will post the ethereal output from the backend tomorrow. Time to sleep
 now
 
 Greg
 
 
 
 On Thu, 2005-02-03 at 21:30, Michael Wester wrote:
  Mike Wester wrote:
the router to which my backend is directly wired (thereby making a
100mbs connection), it did not crash even when watching recordings- It
worked fine for over 30 minutes so I called it stable and moved
everything back.   As of tuesday morning when I did this test I was
thinking that my network is a little flaky (even though there are no
other issues with streaming media to windows boxes connected through
the wireless bridge), but there may be more to it. 
  
  And Replied to his own e-mail:
  Ok- I got home 1/2 hour ago and I've had live tv streaming to the
  remote frontend for 21 minutes- no problems, even with some traffic to
  the wireless bridge.  I get a few errors, but it keeps working- even
  through the ringbuffer issue.
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ mythfrontend
  2005-02-03 18:39:10 mythfrontend version: 0.16.20040906-1 www.mythtv.org
  2005-02-03 18:39:10 Enabled verbose msgs : important general
  mythtv: could not connect to socket
  mythtv: Permission denied
  lirc_init failed for mythtv, see preceding messages
  2005-02-03 18:39:12 Registering Internal as a media playback plugin.
  2005-02-03 18:39:13 Registering MythMusic Media Handler as a media handler
  2005-02-03 18:39:20 Connecting to backend server: 192.168.0.19:6543
  (try 1 of 5)2005-02-03 18:39:20 Using protocol version 13
  2005-02-03 18:39:20 Using protocol version 13
  2005-02-03 18:39:20 Using protocol version 13
  2005-02-03 18:39:23 Opening OSS audio device '/dev/dsp'.
  2005-02-03 18:39:23 Audio fragment size: 4096
  2005-02-03 18:39:23 Using XV port 93
  2005-02-03 18:39:23 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV
  pthread_setschedparam: Operation not permitted
  2005-02-03 18:39:24 Running as SUID root would allow some threads to
  run with realtime priority, improving video smoothness.
  2005-02-03 18:49:35 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read().
  2005-02-03 18:59:18 prebuffering pause
  2005-02-03 18:59:18 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read().
  2005-02-03 18:59:29 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read().
  2005-02-03 18:59:32 prebuffering pause
  2005-02-03 18:59:38 prebuffering pause
  2005-02-03 19:03:55 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read().
  2005-02-03 19:06:15 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read().
  
  
  then I stop watching live tv
  
  2005-02-03 19:10:45 Changing from WatchingLiveTV to None
  2005-02-03 19:10:45 Changing from None to None
  2005-02-03 19:10:48 All Programs
  
  
  and switch to watching pre-recorded BBC news:
  
  2005-02-03 19:10:55 Opening OSS audio device '/dev/dsp'.
  2005-02-03 19:10:55 Audio fragment size: 4096
  2005-02-03 19:10:55 Using XV port 93
  2005-02-03 19:10:56 Changing from None to WatchingPreRecorded
  pthread_setschedparam: Operation not permitted
  2005-02-03 19:10:56 Running as SUID root would allow some threads to
  run with realtime priority, improving video smoothness.
  2005-02-03 19:11:42 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read().
  2005-02-03 19:11:45 Changing from WatchingPreRecorded to None
  2005-02-03 19:11:45 Changing from None to None
  
  and it dies.  I guess I am seeing the same thing you are seeing...  
  fortunately for me, I don't use the remote frontend much at all. 
  Still, I'd like to figure out how to get it working...
 
 
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No. TimeSourceDestination   Protocol Info
   3575 4.085222backend  frontend  TCP  6543  32898 
[ACK] Seq=2408256 Ack=0 Win=1448 Len=1448 TSV=86935213 TSER=12270070
No. TimeSourceDestination   Protocol Info
   3576 4.288304backend  frontend  TCP  [TCP 
Retransmission] 6543  32898 [ACK] Seq=2405360 Ack=0 Win=1448 Len=1448 
TSV=86935417 TSER=12270070
No. TimeSourceDestination   Protocol Info
   3577 4.414330backend  frontend  TCP  6543  32897 
[PSH, ACK] Seq=126 Ack=522 Win=1448 Len=10 TSV=86935543 TSER=12270036

Re: [mythtv-users] [NEW THEME] 'MythCenter'

2005-02-04 Thread mark
Great looking theme.

Mark

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  I found some spare time to create a new theme, it is inspired on
  Windows Media Center. It should work on current CVS builds too. Grab it
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  http://www.fotoniq.nl/projects/mythtv
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re:I cannot see EPG data

2005-02-04 Thread Mattia Martinello
Alexander Petkov ha scritto:
Hehe, I think we all know what you meant...
I don't understand...
Excuse me, could you tell me what I meant?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Air2PC firmware location

2005-02-04 Thread James Armstrong

Tom E. Craddock, Jr. wrote:
Howdy,
Im running a 2.6.10 kernel from kernel.org, which has been compiled to 
use the hdtv3k as a DVB card.  It also has support for the air2pc card 
as well.  I just got mine air2pc card today and Im not sure where I 
should put the dvb-fe-nxt2002.fw.  I thought it was /lib/firmware; I 
didnt have that dir so I made it, and copied the *.fw to that dir, as 
well as to /etc/hotplug, but I cant get the card to tune any channels.  
Then dmesg says the following when I run azap

nxt2002: Waiting for firmware upload (dvb-fe-nxt2002.fw)...
nxt2002: Waiting for firmware upload(2)...
nxt2002: no firmware upload (timeout or file not found?)
nxt2002: timeout error writing tuner
I was up til 1am fighting the install and this was one of the problems. 
I can confirm that /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware is the correct location for 
FC2 2.6.10/11

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Re: [mythtv-users] Hauppauge Daisy-Chain or Red Herring?

2005-02-04 Thread PAUL WILLIAMSON
How can you daisy chain something with only one interface?

You need a splitter to get the video signal to more than one card.

Paul

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/4/2005 11:56:42 AM 
I was told at a local linux users group meeting that it was possible to

daisy-chain Hauppauge x50s together so that only one card need receive
an 
external cable connection.  I haven't been able to find any reference
to 
this ability.  The guy was a blurter and an expounder so he may have
been 
full of it.  Has anyone else daisy chained these cards?

jw

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Re: [mythtv-users] Which Window Manager?

2005-02-04 Thread Ben Dash
 Anyone using other window managers?

I use evilwm for my dedicated mythtv box.  I don't
think that you get any more streamlined than that.

On my desktop I use Gnome or XFCE, since I like GTK.



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Re: [mythtv-users] [NEW THEME] 'MythCenter'

2005-02-04 Thread Geoff Scott
On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 10:34:04 -0600, Kevin Kuphal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Josh Burks wrote:
 
 It looks real nice. Can't wait to try it.
 
 I still don't understand why everyone wants to clone the WinXPMCE
 look though
 
 
 Because, generally speaking, it is clean and usable and not cluttered as
 a good set-top box UI should be.
 
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I could not agree more.  I think that's why I use to love the
Titivillus theme, but with the new pcitures it uses now... well, I
guess it's a preference thing.  Less means more when it comes to UI
IMHO.

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Re: [mythtv-users] recorded video preview colors?

2005-02-04 Thread Ben Dash
Sorry for posting my original question twice, I
thought that I wasn't yet registered on the list due
to the latency.

I'm sure that this is kernel related. Since I was able
to fix it on my r128 machine, by adding the r128
kernel options, gentoo 2.6.9, I hope that I should be
able to get it working on my Mach64 machine.

Something that I'm curious to see is whether the
mach64 frontend will be able to display 640x480 video
without its current video stutter once every couple of
seconds.  Originally I had video in slow motion with
loow sound, but fixed that in mythfrontend
setup.  I can play movie trailers from apple.com fine
full screen with 60% idle and they are about 480x360
resolution, I know this isn't comparing apples ( :-) )
to apples though as that's not MPEG 2.  I'll play
around with transcoding some MPEG2 to different sizes
to see how that effects things.

Changing the size of myhtfrontend to 320x240 while the
backend still encodes at 640x480 made no difference to
the stutter.  The machine is only 400mhz mendocino so
I know that it's at the bottom end of what should be
possible for a frontend, but it's not primarilly a
frontend, I just thought that it's be nice if my wife
had the option to watch TV on her email/browser/office
PC.  It's s close to working, apart from the
colors in the video preview and the slight stutter,
and a solution for one may end up being a solution for
both.

Another thought is that I need to make sure that the
Mach64 machine has Xv enabled, that may make all the
difference it it's not currently working...

Any other ideas, please don't tell me that 400mhz is a
lost cause :-)
--- Travis Osterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  [...] recorded video previews with colors that
 made the
  frames look like photo negatives, i.e. the wrong
  colors.  I added support for my r128 into my
 kernel
  and that solved the problem for that machine
 
 I'm having the same inverted preview colors on my
 i865G chipset output
 on my gentoo 0.16 install.  There were no problems
 for me under FC1
 using 0.16 on the same box so I'm anxious to see
 what the solution is
 too.
 
 -- Travis
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[mythtv-users] channel data for air2pc not filling

2005-02-04 Thread James Armstrong
Is there anything special I need to do to get guide data to fill for my 
Air2PC channels? I setup the source, linked it to zap2it and ran 
mythfilldatabase. Mythfilldatabase is putting in guide data for channels 
in the format of '2-1', but not the new channels for air2pc in the 
format of '21'. Here is how I have the channel setup:

Sourceid  channum  callsign  name   freqid
   1  21   WCBDDTWCDB-DT50-1
Mythfilldatabase is putting in the following channel automatically 
(after I delete it):

Sourceid  channum  callsign  name freqid
   1  2-1  WCBDDTWCDB-DT (WCBD-DT)50-1
The second one 2-1 shows guide data after mythfilldatabase. The correct 
one entered when I setup the air2pc card 21 is showing 'unknown' for the 
guide data. Is there anything else I am supposed to do?

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Re: [mythtv-users] Air2PC firmware location

2005-02-04 Thread David George
Note how I trim the quotes to the relevant portion for my reply.
On 2/4/2005 10:58 AM, Tom E. Craddock, Jr. wrote:
[snip]
and so on.  I see that in my modprobe.conf when kudzu detected the 
card it put in an alias eth1 skystar2, should that be there? Shouldnt 
it be some other alias than eth1?  Could that be my problem?  In the 
rest of dmesg, I can see that the card is found and is initialized
Others have already replied with what you need, but I'll reply to this 
portion.  The ethernet stuff is normal and can be ignored.  Don't 
suppose you happened to notice that the Air2PC card has a MAC address 
;-)  You can let kudzu configure it and not have to worry about 
anything.  If the eth1 really bothers you, you can remove the line from 
modprobe.conf and remove the file 
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1.  Assuming you are using 
Fedora or some derivative (based on your mentioning kudzu).

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[mythtv-users] Gradually choppy TV with latest CVS

2005-02-04 Thread Larry Silverman
After running 0.16 from RPMs for a while, I got bold and decided to
rebuild my own from CVS.  I have an Athlon XP 1800+ CPU and set the
-march=athlon-xp.  I read about some people in the past having slower
performance with this flag over pentiumpro, but it's been a long time
since anyone recently complained of this, so I figured I'd try it.

The problem I'm having is this.  I start watching TV, and everything
is just fine.  If I stay on the channel, it's fine.  If I switch
channels, the next channel starts off fine, but about 4 seconds later,
the video gets choppy.  The audio is flawless.  The video stutters,
like I'm only seeing every nth frame.  It's consistent, it doesn't
seem to get better or worse with time.

I'm guessing this is a capture issue and not a decoding issue, 
because when I rewind live TV and watch from the buffer, it is choppy
in the same way.  Maybe that's an ignorant statement, possibly when I
watch live TV I'm just watching from the buffer anyway, I don't know.

I'm using a Hauppage 250 card and I'm using an FC3 build following
Jarod's guide, except I decided to build all the myth modules myself. 
I have a 5200FX video card, enabled OpenGL on all builds that had the
option, and am NOT using XvMC.  I tried a build with XvMC, and got the
weirdest distortions in the video.  Looked like a psychodelic trip.

I'm seeing this in mythfrontend.log:
2005-02-04 12:01:11.123 GetNextFreeFrame() served a busy frame.
Dropping. #Frames=38/31.
2005-02-04 12:01:11.128 GetNextFreeFrame() served a busy frame.
Dropping. #Frames=37/31.
2005-02-04 12:01:11.128 GetNextFreeFrame() served a busy frame.
Dropping. #Frames=36/31.

I see nothing in my mythbackend log that pertains.

I'm open to any suggestions.

Thanks,

Larry
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RE: [mythtv-users] Hauppauge Daisy-Chain or Red Herring?

2005-02-04 Thread Glen Johnson








He is full of it. To daisy chain
anything, all but the last device in the chain would have to have an input and
also an output.

The 250 doesnt have any output at
all. The 350 only has baseband video and audio so if you chained via these
connections, the only thing the entire chain would record is what ever signal
the first one was seeing.











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005
11:57 AM
To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org
Subject: [mythtv-users] Hauppauge
Daisy-Chain or Red Herring?






I was told at a local linux users group meeting that it
was possible to daisy-chain Hauppauge x50s together so that only one card need
receive an external cable connection. I haven't been able to find any
reference to this ability. The guy was a blurter and an expounder so he
may have been full of it. Has anyone else daisy chained these cards?


jw






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Re: [mythtv-users] Recorded Show preview color inverted?

2005-02-04 Thread Craig Partin
you can turn off the preview and have it just be a still image.  its
in one of the settings menus.


On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 12:17:10 -0500, Jeff Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oh, I love ME-TOOs
 
 put one in for me, too, I have the same problem. Except mine is a
 newer PVR-350 (rev990). Used to work fine, now goes berserk.
 
 in a related note, do you know if it's possible to put a timeout on
 that little preview window? maybe after 10 minutes of previewing the
 same one, stop it? Reason I ask is that with framebuffer, it just
 sucks up CPU playing a video in that little box, so I'll be sitting at
 my PC wondering why 99% of the CPU is taken, only to find that it's
 because I left myth in the watch-recordings screen.
 
  - Jeff
 
 
 On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 08:00:19 -0800, Anthony Floyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Ben,
 
  I'm afraid I don't have any help for you.  I just wanted to add a me
  too.  Gentoo with a 2.6.10 kernel, ivtv-0.2.0-rc3, etc.  1x350,
  1x250.  The 350 is an older model (don't have the specs on hand right
  now) and I've had the problem with it well before I put the new 250
  in. Fortunately for me, it doesn't bug the wife too much.
 
  A
 
 
  On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 13:21:25 -0800 (PST), Ben Dash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   MythTV 0.16 is working great for me on Gentoo, and the
   install was a breeze once the problems with my PVR 250
   type 50 were resolved.
  
   The only problem that I'm having which I haven't so
   far slved is that the preview of my recorded shows
   looks like photograph negatives.  It's like RBG
   instead of RGB, everyone looks like a smurf, i.e.
   their faces are blue.
  
   Both live TV and fullscreen recorded shows look fine
   as do the frame captures used in mythweb recorded
   shows.
  
   Any ideas?
  
   This is a very minor cosmetic problem, but my this is
   poentially important in the Wife Acceptance Test
  
   Thanks!
  
  
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[mythtv-users] Steal This Show John Markoff's response

2005-02-04 Thread Cecil Watson
My email to John:
John,
 When you contacted me about the article you were writing about
MythTV, you stated that it was about the community.  After reading the
article, it made it sound like the community was a pack of thieves.
This has cause a great stir in the community.  Many, myself included
feel the article protraits us in a bad light.  Having been a member of
the community for well over a year, I can say without reservation that
this isn't the spirit of the community.  The development community
around MythTV works on it because we feel there is a better way.  The
program Videora isn't a MythTV module, it doesn't even run on Linux.
Prior to reading your article, I had not even hear of Videora.  While
the past cannot be undone, I feel the least you can do is personally
apology to the community.
Regards,
Cecil Watson
His response:
Hi Cecil,
   Although I don't specifically remember saying it was about community, I
totally agree with you. I was tremendously upset with the title and the top
of the story, which is not what I had reported. It represents the danger of
working with another reporter who has a very different view of the world. My
original charter had been to find out how hacking (in the good sense) was
changing TV. That is what I reported. That is not what appeared in the
article. 
   The problem was complicated by the fact that I was traveling to Europe
during the time the piece was written and edited. It was largely a fait
accompli by the time I had arrived and gotten over jet lag.
   That said, that is not an excuse. I was totally shocked by the headline.
I did write that Isaac was a rebel, but once again I didn't mean it in the
thief sense of the word. And I attempted to correct some of the material
about not needing set top boxes after that, but was ignored.
   Anyway, if you go back and look at my stuff over the years, although
I've been attacked by the Kevin Mitnick crowd, I think you'll see that I
have been very supportive of the real hacker community.
   I understand that the damage has been done, so please apologize to the
community on my behalf. I will try to rectify it in the future.

Best,
John Markoff

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Hi Cecil,

Although I don't specifically remember saying it was about community, I
totally agree with you. I was tremendously upset with the title and the top
of the story, which is not what I had reported. It represents the danger of
working with another reporter who has a very different view of the world. My
original charter had been to find out how hacking (in the good sense) was
changing TV. That is what I reported. That is not what appeared in the
article. 
The problem was complicated by the fact that I was traveling to Europe
during the time the piece was written and edited. It was largely a fait
accompli by the time I had arrived and gotten over jet lag.
That said, that is not an excuse. I was totally shocked by the headline.
I did write that Isaac was a rebel, but once again I didn't mean it in the
thief sense of the word. And I attempted to correct some of the material
about not needing set top boxes after that, but was ignored.
Anyway, if you go back and look at my stuff over the years, although
I've been attacked by the Kevin Mitnick crowd, I think you'll see that I
have been very supportive of the real hacker community.
I understand that the damage has been done, so please apologize to the
community on my behalf. I will try to rectify it in the future.

Best,

John Markoff



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 From: Cecil Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 20:21:48 -0800
 To: John Markoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Steal This Show
 
 John,
 
  When you contacted me about the article you were writing about
 MythTV, you stated that it was about the community.  After reading the
 article, it made it sound like the community was a pack of thieves.
 This has cause a great stir in the community.  Many, myself included
 feel the article protraits us in a bad light.  Having been a member of
 the community for well over a year, I can say without reservation that
 this isn't the spirit of the community.  The development community
 around MythTV works on it because we feel there is a better way.  The
 program Videora isn't a MythTV module, it doesn't even run on Linux.
 Prior to reading your article, I had not even hear of Videora.  While
 the past cannot be undone, I feel the least you can do is personally
 apology to the community.
 
 Regards,
 
 Cecil Watson




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[mythtv-users] FC3 - can't change channels

2005-02-04 Thread Andrew Bassett

I've been wrestling with this myth setup for a few days now, but I think 
I finally have things semi-working. I followed Jarod Wilson's guide.

When I would fire up myth, I was getting the error of no tuner, so i 
added the following to /etc/rc.local.

/sbin/modprobe ivtv
I originally was using ivtv 0.2.x, but I was just getting static 
whenever I tried to watch live tv. This was fixed by adding the 
following to /etc/modprobe.conf:

alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv
alias msp3400 msp3400-ivtv
Per the advice of a friend I rolled that back to 
ivtv-0.1.10-49.2_pre2_ck100zz, but left the alias entries in 
/etc/modprobe.conf

I thought everything was working, so I set a scheduled recording, and 
myth didn't change the channel to what I wanted to record. I looked on 
the threads, and the solution that came up was to re-run 
mythfilldatabase, but I did that, and it still doesn't work. I can see 
all the channels when I go to schedule a recording, but I can't change 
channels when I try to watch live tv.

My hardware:
Athlon 3200+
Asus a7v880
1 gig of ram
Nvidia Geforce 6800
Hauppauge PVR-350
OS details:
Fedora Core 3
kernel 2.6.9-1.724
Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: ivtv:  START INIT 
IVTV 
Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: version 0.1.10 
(0.1.10-49.2_pre2_ck100zz.rhfc3.at) loading
Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: Linux version: 2.6.9-1.724_FC3 686 
REGPARM 4KSTACKS gcc-3.4
Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: In case of problems please include 
the debug info
Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: between the START INIT IVTV and 
END INIT IVTV lines when
Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: mailing the ivtv-devel mailinglist.
Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: Autodetected WinTV PVR 350 card
Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: Found an iTVC15 based chip
Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: ACPI: PCI interrupt :00:0d.0[A] - 
GSI 11 (level, low) - IRQ 11
Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: pci: VIA detected device: 0x0269 
vendor: 0x1106
Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: tveeprom: Ignoring new-style parameters 
in presence of obsolete ones
Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 48132, rev 
= K168, serial# = 7378684
Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: tveeprom: tuner = LG NTSC (TAPE series) 
(idx = 68, type = 47)
Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: tveeprom: tuner fmt = NTSC(M) (eeprom = 
0x08, v4l2 = 0x1000)
Feb  4 12:06:58 grd0351 kernel: tveeprom: audio_processor = MSP3440 
(type = 11)
Feb  4 12:06:58 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: i2c attach [client=tveeprom[0],ok]
Feb  4 12:06:58 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: Tuner Type 47, Tuner formats 
0x1000, Radio: yes, Model 0x00ad1598, Revision 0x0001
Feb  4 12:06:59 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: NTSC tuner detected
Feb  4 12:06:59 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: Radio detected
Feb  4 12:06:59 grd0351 kernel: tuner: Ignoring new-style parameters in 
presence of obsolete ones
Feb  4 12:06:59 grd0351 kernel: tuner: chip found at addr 0xc2 i2c-bus 
ivtv i2c driver #0
Feb  4 12:06:59 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: i2c attach [client=(tuner unset),ok]
Feb  4 12:06:59 grd0351 kernel: saa7115: Ignoring new-style parameters 
in presence of obsolete ones
Feb  4 12:06:59 grd0351 fstab-sync[2866]: removed all generated mount points
Feb  4 12:06:59 grd0351 kernel: saa7115: starting probe for adapter ivtv 
i2c driver #0 (0x10005)
Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: saa7115: detecting saa7115 client on 
address 0x42
Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: saa7115: writing init values
Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: i2c attach [client=saa7115[0],ok]
Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: saa7115: status: (1E) 0x09, (1F) 0x40
Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: saa7127: Ignoring new-style parameters 
in presence of obsolete ones
Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: saa7127: video encoder driver version V 
0.3 loaded
Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: saa7127: Selecting NTSC video Standard
Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: saa7127: Selecting S-Video+Composite
Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: saa7127: Turn WSS off
Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: saa7127: Widescreen Mode 4:3 Full Format
Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: saa7127: Selecting Normal Encoder Input
Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: saa7127: Enable Video Output
Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: i2c attach [client=saa7127[0],ok]
Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: msp3400: Ignoring new-style parameters 
in presence of obsolete ones
Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: msp34xx: ivtv version
Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: msp34xx: init: chip=MSP3448W-A2, has 
NICAM support, simple (D) mode, simpler (G) no-thread mode
Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: msp34xx: $Id$ compiled on: Jan 25 2005 
10:48:39
Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: i2c attach [client=MSP3448W-A2,ok]
Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: Encoder revision: 0x02040024
Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: Decoder revision: 0x02020023
Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: Configuring WinTV PVR 350 card 
with 9 streams
Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: Create DMA 

[mythtv-users] Air2PC Driver Software?

2005-02-04 Thread clemens
I understand that the Air2PC driver has been integrated into the 2.6.10
kernel (Im currently running 2.6.9, but will upgrade)

Is there some site I should be aware of that has updates to this driver?
I know Ive seen things mentioned on this and the Development list, but
cant find the messages at the moment.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re:I cannot see EPG data

2005-02-04 Thread Ben Giddings
Mattia Martinello wrote:
Alexander Petkov ha scritto:
Hehe, I think we all know what you meant...
I don't understand...
Excuse me, could you tell me what I meant?
From your original message:
===
Yes, I am using Mythtv from CVS got on 2004-01-30.
===
If you're using MythTV from 1 year ago, it's a bit out of date.  You 
probably meant 2005-01-30.

But don't worry, it'll be July before I remember to write 2005 on a 
regular basis.

Ben
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Re: [mythtv-users] Hauppauge Daisy-Chain or Red Herring?

2005-02-04 Thread Greg Foster
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 11:56:42 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 I was told at a local linux users group meeting that it was possible to
 daisy-chain Hauppauge x50s together so that only one card need receive an
 external cable connection.  I haven't been able to find any reference to
 this ability.  The guy was a blurter and an expounder so he may have been
 full of it.  Has anyone else daisy chained these cards? 
  
 jw 

I could be wrong, but isn't the second coax-type connector used for FM
radio on the 350s ?  I don't think there is a 'cable out' port.

Greg.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re:I cannot see EPG data

2005-02-04 Thread Kristian Kalweit
Mattia Martinello wrote:
Alexander Petkov ha scritto:
Hehe, I think we all know what you meant...
I don't understand...
Excuse me, could you tell me what I meant?
Mattia.
OK, sorry I don't meant ETI (Extra Terrastical Intelligence) :-) ...
Anyway, try following:
- go to to your mythtv source dir, into libs/libmythtv
- edit siparser.cpp
- find following in SIParser::ParseDescriptorLinkage:
//The following was found to break EIT guide for
// Kristian Kalweit [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   if (n.LinkageType == 4)
   {
  PrivateTypes.GuideOnSingleTransport = true;
  PrivateTypes.GuideTransportID = n.LinkageTransportID;
   }
- comment this out
- recompile and try again
I also have to comment this out at my machine to get EPG working. 
Please, give me feedback if this is working for you. I will report to 
the devs.

Kristian.
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Re: [mythtv-users] set up of mythtv

2005-02-04 Thread Andrew Close
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 11:33:37 -0500, Travis Osterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Mythtv comes up . but the problem is it says : =-
  Couldnot connect to the master backend server -- is it running? is the
  IP address set for it in the setup program correct?
  could anyone please help me in this regard
 

 Could you tell us what operating system you're using? 

distribution would be helpful.  and maybe a list of your hardware..?
i have the Chaintech 7NIFS mobo with built in ethernet.  on my first
install i didn't have network connectivity because the onboard
ethernet hadn't been enabled in the BIOS.  i had the same error... so
you may want to check BIOS settings if you're using onboard
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: myth on an old machine(which video capture card)

2005-02-04 Thread Hugo van der Kooij
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005, Greg Foster wrote:

 Running a PVR-350 here with a PII-400 Mhz Dell.  Menus aren't as
 snappy as they could be I'm sure, but simoultaneous playback and
 recording is fantastic due to the onboard encoding/decoding.  As
 others have mentioned, the only drawback to this config that I've hit
 so far is the inability to play DVD/DivX content through the pvr-350
 on lower-powered machines.

I think CPU is not an issue but I am still looking for hints on how to
play other content on the TV-OUT port. Google is my friend but in this
case I could not get my friend to come up with a working answer.

Hugo.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Steal This Show John Markoff's response

2005-02-04 Thread Cecil Watson
Doh!  Blam it on jetlag and lack of sleep...  I didn't mean for Mr 
Markoff's contact information to become public.  Please don't contact 
him and reassert your displeasure with the article.

Thanks,
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Re: [mythtv-users] Steal This Show John Markoff's response

2005-02-04 Thread Michael S. Keller
   I understand that the damage has been done, so please apologize to the
community on my behalf. I will try to rectify it in the future.
Separate, public apologies made at least as big in the NYT as the 
original article, would help, by telling the people who read the 
original article that NYT sensationalized it.

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[mythtv-users] LIRC on x86_64 SuSE 9.2 Compile Issue

2005-02-04 Thread Michael Haan
Not strictly a myth issue except that it's keeping me from moving forward
with my install.  First, thanks to those of you who have tried to help me so
far.  My issue:  I cannot make my PVR-350 remote work with LIRC on x86_64
SuSE 9.2.  The default install does not seem to support the necessary
lirc_dev and lirc_i2c modules.  So, i uninstalled that and tried to
build/install lirc from source.  I'm able to coax the make (after creating a
sym link to fixdep), but make install fails.  Seems the install wants a
lirc_dev.ko, but the buld creates lirc_dev.o.  I've posted this to the lirc
list, but they are very quiet over there.  The must be someone who has a new
PVR-350 working on SuSE 9.2 x86_64 kernel = 2.6.8-24-default.  I need to
know what you did, and where you got it.  Thanks.
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Re: [mythtv-users] [NEW THEME] 'MythCenter'

2005-02-04 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 11:10:04AM -0500, Jeff Simpson wrote:
 Screenshot looks sXe, good work! I'll have to try it out when I get a chance

The screenshot looks straightedge?  

Cheers,
- jra
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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: LCD Monitor vs. LCD TV for Display

2005-02-04 Thread Per Åge Sørvik
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 13:45:39 +, Greg Cope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In the interium I am thinking of getting a 19 LCD Monitor for £200 to
 replace my 21 TV - I know the formats are not quite the same so the
 19 will be smaller, but I need a tv that accepts Svideo (mine does
 not!).
 

The 17-19 monitors are not good choices for TV since they are 5:4
geometry, and will give you black bars on 4:3, big black bars on 16:9
and so on. You should really try to stretch your budget to something
like the Dell FP2001,or even better the Dell FPW2005, which is just a
little bit more expensive.

That said, I'm using a wallmounted  18 samsung 181T as my kitchen TV
happily, but it was a monitor not seeing any other use.

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RE: [mythtv-users] Which Window Manager?

2005-02-04 Thread Chris Lynch
Could you please provide any insight in making the switch.  I've got a
relatively low powered P3 running Myth dedicated and would be fine with not
using KDE as a primary WM.

What did you do to switch over?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phill Edwards
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 2:14 PM
To: Roy Murphy; Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Which Window Manager?

 Now that we've had a nice long thread discussing distributions, let's 
 talk about window managers. KDE and Gnome sould like *way* too much 
 overhead for a Myth frontend. Anyone using other window managers?

I use ratpoison. This is a lightweight, low disk space hog, mouse-less
window manager (you use keyboard shortcuts to fire up any apps you may need
- the only app I ever fire up is xterm).

It works very well and is simple to use. There's a very small amount of
setup required to stop using KDE and start using this but I have all the
details if you need it. It's very easy. Its home page is at
http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison/

Regards,
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Re: [mythtv-users] [NEW THEME] 'MythCenter'

2005-02-04 Thread Jeff Simpson
since when does sXe mean straightedge?

news to meI've been using it to mean sexy (ess-ecks-eee!)

 - Jeff

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 15:18:06 -0500, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 11:10:04AM -0500, Jeff Simpson wrote:
  Screenshot looks sXe, good work! I'll have to try it out when I get a chance
 
 The screenshot looks straightedge?
 
 Cheers,
 - jra
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Re: [mythtv-users] Passively-cooled FX5200 DVI-out video cards?

2005-02-04 Thread Brandon Beattie
On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 11:22:33AM -0500, Robert Tsai wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 10:32:41PM -0800, Brad Templeton wrote:
  However, be warned, nobody here has gotten DVI output to work at
  1080i from linux. People have gotten 720p to work.
 
 So does everyone have a nice 720p HDTV display? Or do people just use
 the S-Video output and watch their HD content in 16:9 480p? [I'm
 putting together an HD-3000-based box.]

I'd say most have some sort of higher than 800x600 (SVGA) Display, be it
projectors, rear projection, or computer monitors.  There are a handful
of people I know of using SVGA or even Composite.

 Is it known if the problem lies with video card drivers, or Linux, or
 X? Or is it just that the magic modelines haven't yet been discovered?

Video card.  You can get 1080i through VGA but not DVI is what I've
heard.  I'd be curious to know if anyone does 1080p over DVI.

 If it's a development problem, I'm game to trying to fix whatever it
 is, but I have to get my machine assembled before I can see what's
 incomplete ...

Mail NVidia, but from my knowledge they pretty much ignore everyone and
do whatever on their own schedule.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Hauppauge Daisy-Chain or Red Herring?

2005-02-04 Thread Jeff Simpson
Without reading the manual (or having looked at the manual a long time
ago), I can see that it would be pretty easy to make that mistake

The back of the card has two F connectors, one used for cable /
antenna input. If I didn't know that the other one was for the dipole
FM antenna, I would have assumed it to be the pass-thru cable out,
too.

 - Jeff

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 13:29:21 -0500, Glen Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
 
 He is full of it.  To daisy chain anything, all but the last device in the
 chain would have to have an input and also an output. 
 
 The 250 doesn't have any output at all.  The 350 only has baseband video and
 audio so if you chained via these connections, the only thing the entire
 chain would record is what ever signal the first one was seeing. 
 
   
  
  
  
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 11:57 AM
  To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org
  Subject: [mythtv-users] Hauppauge Daisy-Chain or Red Herring? 
 
   
 
 
  I was told at a local linux users group meeting that it was possible to
 daisy-chain Hauppauge x50s together so that only one card need receive an
 external cable connection.  I haven't been able to find any reference to
 this ability.  The guy was a blurter and an expounder so he may have been
 full of it.  Has anyone else daisy chained these cards? 
  
  jw 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Recorded Show preview color inverted?

2005-02-04 Thread Ben Dash
Sorry, since solving the strange negative photo
preview image on my r128 machine I tried to solve the
same problem on my Mach64 mythfrontend machine, and
the mach64 machine also has other video problems so
simply disabling preview isn't really the complete
solution.

The Mach64 is a 400mhz CPU so its other problem of
slightly stuttering video may be unsolvable.  However,
I have a sneaking suspicion that Xv will allow me to
play video without using 100% CPU.  I seem to be able
to play movie trailers from apple.com without any
problems, at 480x360, and although that's not an
identical task it does give me hope that I may be able
to eliminate this very slight video stutter.

I like the idea of not previewing the entire video,
maybe just preview the first 10 seconds and then
pause.

--- Craig Partin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 you can turn off the preview and have it just be a
 still image.  its
 in one of the settings menus.
 
 
 On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 12:17:10 -0500, Jeff Simpson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Oh, I love ME-TOOs
  
  put one in for me, too, I have the same problem.
 Except mine is a
  newer PVR-350 (rev990). Used to work fine, now
 goes berserk.
  
  in a related note, do you know if it's possible to
 put a timeout on
  that little preview window? maybe after 10 minutes
 of previewing the
  same one, stop it? Reason I ask is that with
 framebuffer, it just
  sucks up CPU playing a video in that little box,
 so I'll be sitting at
  my PC wondering why 99% of the CPU is taken, only
 to find that it's
  because I left myth in the watch-recordings
 screen.
  
   - Jeff
  
  
  On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 08:00:19 -0800, Anthony Floyd
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi Ben,
  
   I'm afraid I don't have any help for you.  I
 just wanted to add a me
   too.  Gentoo with a 2.6.10 kernel,
 ivtv-0.2.0-rc3, etc.  1x350,
   1x250.  The 350 is an older model (don't have
 the specs on hand right
   now) and I've had the problem with it well
 before I put the new 250
   in. Fortunately for me, it doesn't bug the wife
 too much.
  
   A
  
  
   On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 13:21:25 -0800 (PST), Ben
 Dash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
MythTV 0.16 is working great for me on Gentoo,
 and the
install was a breeze once the problems with my
 PVR 250
type 50 were resolved.
   
The only problem that I'm having which I
 haven't so
far slved is that the preview of my recorded
 shows
looks like photograph negatives.  It's like
 RBG
instead of RGB, everyone looks like a smurf,
 i.e.
their faces are blue.
   
Both live TV and fullscreen recorded shows
 look fine
as do the frame captures used in mythweb
 recorded
shows.
   
Any ideas?
   
This is a very minor cosmetic problem, but my
 this is
poentially important in the Wife Acceptance
 Test
   
Thanks!
   
   
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[mythtv-users] [OT] - Ebaying Knoppmyth

2005-02-04 Thread Travis Osterman
I came across this while browsing ebay today:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7131344272

Is this just in bad taste, or is it against the GPL to sell copies of
the software?

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Re: [mythtv-users] FC3 - can't change channels

2005-02-04 Thread Josh Burks
Since it looks like your PVR-350 in installed correctly, try stopping
and restarting mythbackend.

Also, if you try to watch live tv and the OSD says something like 0
minutes, you might try some of the fixes mentioned here:
http://gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/105709

Josh


On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 12:51:02 -0600, Andrew Bassett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 I've been wrestling with this myth setup for a few days now, but I think
 I finally have things semi-working. I followed Jarod Wilson's guide.
 
 When I would fire up myth, I was getting the error of no tuner, so i
 added the following to /etc/rc.local.
 
 /sbin/modprobe ivtv
 
 I originally was using ivtv 0.2.x, but I was just getting static
 whenever I tried to watch live tv. This was fixed by adding the
 following to /etc/modprobe.conf:
 
 alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv
 alias msp3400 msp3400-ivtv
 
 Per the advice of a friend I rolled that back to
 ivtv-0.1.10-49.2_pre2_ck100zz, but left the alias entries in
 /etc/modprobe.conf
 
 I thought everything was working, so I set a scheduled recording, and
 myth didn't change the channel to what I wanted to record. I looked on
 the threads, and the solution that came up was to re-run
 mythfilldatabase, but I did that, and it still doesn't work. I can see
 all the channels when I go to schedule a recording, but I can't change
 channels when I try to watch live tv.
 
 My hardware:
 Athlon 3200+
 Asus a7v880
 1 gig of ram
 Nvidia Geforce 6800
 Hauppauge PVR-350
 
 OS details:
 Fedora Core 3
 kernel 2.6.9-1.724
 
 Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: ivtv:  START INIT
 IVTV 
 Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: version 0.1.10
 (0.1.10-49.2_pre2_ck100zz.rhfc3.at) loading
 Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: Linux version: 2.6.9-1.724_FC3 686
 REGPARM 4KSTACKS gcc-3.4
 Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: In case of problems please include
 the debug info
 Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: between the START INIT IVTV and
 END INIT IVTV lines when
 Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: mailing the ivtv-devel mailinglist.
 Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: Autodetected WinTV PVR 350 card
 Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: Found an iTVC15 based chip
 Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: ACPI: PCI interrupt :00:0d.0[A] -
 GSI 11 (level, low) - IRQ 11
 Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: pci: VIA detected device: 0x0269
 vendor: 0x1106
 Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: tveeprom: Ignoring new-style parameters
 in presence of obsolete ones
 Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 48132, rev
 = K168, serial# = 7378684
 Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: tveeprom: tuner = LG NTSC (TAPE series)
 (idx = 68, type = 47)
 Feb  4 12:06:57 grd0351 kernel: tveeprom: tuner fmt = NTSC(M) (eeprom =
 0x08, v4l2 = 0x1000)
 Feb  4 12:06:58 grd0351 kernel: tveeprom: audio_processor = MSP3440
 (type = 11)
 Feb  4 12:06:58 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: i2c attach [client=tveeprom[0],ok]
 Feb  4 12:06:58 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: Tuner Type 47, Tuner formats
 0x1000, Radio: yes, Model 0x00ad1598, Revision 0x0001
 Feb  4 12:06:59 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: NTSC tuner detected
 Feb  4 12:06:59 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: Radio detected
 Feb  4 12:06:59 grd0351 kernel: tuner: Ignoring new-style parameters in
 presence of obsolete ones
 Feb  4 12:06:59 grd0351 kernel: tuner: chip found at addr 0xc2 i2c-bus
 ivtv i2c driver #0
 Feb  4 12:06:59 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: i2c attach [client=(tuner unset),ok]
 Feb  4 12:06:59 grd0351 kernel: saa7115: Ignoring new-style parameters
 in presence of obsolete ones
 Feb  4 12:06:59 grd0351 fstab-sync[2866]: removed all generated mount points
 Feb  4 12:06:59 grd0351 kernel: saa7115: starting probe for adapter ivtv
 i2c driver #0 (0x10005)
 Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: saa7115: detecting saa7115 client on
 address 0x42
 Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: saa7115: writing init values
 Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: i2c attach [client=saa7115[0],ok]
 Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: saa7115: status: (1E) 0x09, (1F) 0x40
 Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: saa7127: Ignoring new-style parameters
 in presence of obsolete ones
 Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: saa7127: video encoder driver version V
 0.3 loaded
 Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: saa7127: Selecting NTSC video Standard
 Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: saa7127: Selecting S-Video+Composite
 Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: saa7127: Turn WSS off
 Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: saa7127: Widescreen Mode 4:3 Full Format
 Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: saa7127: Selecting Normal Encoder Input
 Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: saa7127: Enable Video Output
 Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: ivtv: i2c attach [client=saa7127[0],ok]
 Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: msp3400: Ignoring new-style parameters
 in presence of obsolete ones
 Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: msp34xx: ivtv version
 Feb  4 12:07:00 grd0351 kernel: msp34xx: init: chip=MSP3448W-A2, has
 NICAM support, simple (D) mode, simpler (G) 

[mythtv-users] wap browsing to webmyth

2005-02-04 Thread Andy Swain
hi,
I have been tinkering with a wap interface to mythtv and I see there is 
a wap theme for webmyth, It looks like webmyth detects a wap browser and 
switches to the wap theme but it still seems to generate html and not wml.

I have messed about with some simple but now quite old pages curtesy of
 http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-dev/2003-June/010360.html
thanks bjorn, and I can now just about record a program from my mobile 
which is not only cool but occasionally useful!

I am not an expert but I will happily try to persuade the wap theme to 
work as well but am I missing something here? The wap thee seems to be a 
small footprint html interface which is great but it's not wml and it 
doesn't work on my phone. Should I be trying to finish the wap theme 
to do wml instead of html or will that break other applications of the 
theme that I don't know about? should I be writing another theme again? 
or has all this already been done and I just can't find it? is anyone 
using a wap interface from a phone already?

I am grateful for any feedback if I am about to waste my time
cheers
Andy Swain
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Re: [mythtv-users] Hardware Review

2005-02-04 Thread Kenneth Hong
 On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:42:07 -0600, Andrew Close [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 14:52:41 -0800, Kenneth Hong
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  snip
   I may go with this suggestion (ie. go for a more powerful front-end),
but I
   still have a few questions about the Xbox option before I discard the
idea
   altogether:
  
  snip
   (I have no soldering experience, but I'm willing to try anything that
   doesn't get me too far over my head.)
 
  the soldering isn't really that difficult.  it's intimidating, but not
  difficult if you take your time.  check out xbox-scene.com for
  tutorials and howtos on soldering/modding.
 
  i haven't had the time to install Linux/Myth on my xbox yet.  i'm
  still trying to get my main MythBox configured and working. :)  there
  just aren't enough hours in a day...

 [snip]

 There's a soft-mod if you've got the right xbox.  Boot with the
 appropriate game, and you're installing within minutes !

 Greg.

I'm all for doing the soft-mod.  But how difficult is it to get the right
box (version 1.4 or older).  I know that there was a big rush on Xbox during
the holidays.  So, I'm thinking that the right box is going to be hard to
find.  Any suggestions?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Steal This Show John Markoff's response

2005-02-04 Thread Andy Long
Well, it is at least good to see that he wasn't pleased with the
outcome of the story.  But, as he said the damage is done.  No doubt
Congressman Dipshit had someone read him the article, and is drafting
legislation against it so he can have his 15 minutes.

I for one will welcome the creation of googlezon and its subsequent
domination of the New York Times.  (for those unfamiliar, see
http://oak.psych.gatech.edu/~epic/ )

-Andy

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 10:38:06 -0800, Cecil Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My email to John:
 
 John,
 
   When you contacted me about the article you were writing about
  MythTV, you stated that it was about the community.  After reading the
  article, it made it sound like the community was a pack of thieves.
  This has cause a great stir in the community.  Many, myself included
  feel the article protraits us in a bad light.  Having been a member of
  the community for well over a year, I can say without reservation that
  this isn't the spirit of the community.  The development community
  around MythTV works on it because we feel there is a better way.  The
  program Videora isn't a MythTV module, it doesn't even run on Linux.
  Prior to reading your article, I had not even hear of Videora.  While
  the past cannot be undone, I feel the least you can do is personally
  apology to the community.
 
  Regards,
 
  Cecil Watson
 
 His response:
 
 Hi Cecil,
 
Although I don't specifically remember saying it was about community, I
 totally agree with you. I was tremendously upset with the title and the top
 of the story, which is not what I had reported. It represents the danger of
 working with another reporter who has a very different view of the world. My
 original charter had been to find out how hacking (in the good sense) was
 changing TV. That is what I reported. That is not what appeared in the
 article.
The problem was complicated by the fact that I was traveling to Europe
 during the time the piece was written and edited. It was largely a fait
 accompli by the time I had arrived and gotten over jet lag.
That said, that is not an excuse. I was totally shocked by the headline.
 I did write that Isaac was a rebel, but once again I didn't mean it in the
 thief sense of the word. And I attempted to correct some of the material
 about not needing set top boxes after that, but was ignored.
Anyway, if you go back and look at my stuff over the years, although
 I've been attacked by the Kevin Mitnick crowd, I think you'll see that I
 have been very supportive of the real hacker community.
I understand that the damage has been done, so please apologize to the
 community on my behalf. I will try to rectify it in the future.
 
 Best,
 
 John Markoff
 
 
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: John Markoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Cecil Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 08:13:49 -0800
 Subject: Re: Steal This Show
 Hi Cecil,
 
Although I don't specifically remember saying it was about community, I
 totally agree with you. I was tremendously upset with the title and the top
 of the story, which is not what I had reported. It represents the danger of
 working with another reporter who has a very different view of the world. My
 original charter had been to find out how hacking (in the good sense) was
 changing TV. That is what I reported. That is not what appeared in the
 article.
The problem was complicated by the fact that I was traveling to Europe
 during the time the piece was written and edited. It was largely a fait
 accompli by the time I had arrived and gotten over jet lag.
That said, that is not an excuse. I was totally shocked by the headline.
 I did write that Isaac was a rebel, but once again I didn't mean it in the
 thief sense of the word. And I attempted to correct some of the material
 about not needing set top boxes after that, but was ignored.
Anyway, if you go back and look at my stuff over the years, although
 I've been attacked by the Kevin Mitnick crowd, I think you'll see that I
 have been very supportive of the real hacker community.
I understand that the damage has been done, so please apologize to the
 community on my behalf. I will try to rectify it in the future.
 
 Best,
 
 John Markoff
 
 =
 John Markoff Voice: (415) 836-6700
 West Coast Correspondent Cell: (415) 606 0126
 New York Times
 201 Spear St. #1560 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 San Francisco, CA 94105 http://www.nytimes.com
 ==
 
  From: Cecil Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 20:21:48 -0800
  To: John Markoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Steal This Show
 
  John,
 
   When you contacted me about the article you were writing about
  MythTV, you stated that it was about the community.  After reading the
  article, it made it sound like the community was a 

Re: [mythtv-users] Internal IR Receiver

2005-02-04 Thread Shane Hetzel
Let me know how that works out for you. You should only require a couple of 
decoupling caps between VCC and GND, as close to the part as possible. I 
used 100nf and 10uF electrolytic caps (1 each). The rest of the work is in 
the cabling.

I myself used a RadioShack 276-640, as I've said before. It has a larger 
allowable source voltage range, but I don't think you'll have any problems. 
Good luck!

-Shane

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Discussion about mythtv' mythtv-users@mythtv.org
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 6:26 AM
Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Internal IR Receiver


Andy wrote:

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:42:28 -,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 RS components are trade only (although I could probably get round
 that), but again I suspect they have a stupid minimum order amount.
RS www sales aren't trade only, just their  in-person
collection counters are. I've ordered loads of stuff from
them over the web.
D'Oh!!
All the times I've not ordered as I thought they were trade only
and didn't sell to the public, g.
Even more annoyingly I *have* a RS catalogue.
No minimum order size I believe although the postal rates are
more attractive if you can put together a 'larger' order:-
Ha, no problems, I'll be ordering all the rest of the components at
the same time anyway.
For reference if anyone else wants the same part ( TSOP1738 )it is
RS stock number 286-1419 and is 83p
Thanks.
Druid



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Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] - Ebaying Knoppmyth

2005-02-04 Thread Marc Nicholas
What on earth makes you think it's against the GPL to sell copies of 
software? Several companies have business models based on that!

-marc
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005, Travis Osterman wrote:
I came across this while browsing ebay today:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7131344272
Is this just in bad taste, or is it against the GPL to sell copies of
the software?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Steal This Show John Markoff's response

2005-02-04 Thread Andrew Close
On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 12:23:00 -0800, Cecil Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Doh!  Blam it on jetlag and lack of sleep...  I didn't mean for Mr
 Markoff's contact information to become public.  Please don't contact
 him and reassert your displeasure with the article.

hmm, maybe that should be restated as:

Please, DO NOT contact him.

contractions are often misinterpreted or misread. :)


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RE: [mythtv-users] [OT] - Ebaying Knoppmyth

2005-02-04 Thread Cook, Garry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I came across this while browsing ebay today:
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7131344272
 
 Is this just in bad taste, or is it against the GPL to sell copies of
 the software? 
 
 -- Travis

Well, the GPL actually promotes selling of Free (as in Beer) Software.
However, I'm not sure how Issac will feel about this person using his
images, and probably text copied directly from the MythTV web site. 

Garry W. Cook, CCNA
Network Infrastructure Manager
MACTEC, Inc. - http://www.mactec.com/
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