Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals
No Kurt, you are not alone. I hate them too, besides the fact that they provide close to no illumination. Javier On Sep 20, 2012 8:11 PM, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com wrote: Am I really the only person in the world who doesn't have a raging boner for tiny turn signals? Seriously, I'd like some decent looking, GOOD SIZED turn signals. None of this 1 diameter round or smaller, or 1 or less length arrows. None of this mini nonsense. G. -Kurt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals
where are you Javier? On Sep 21, 2012, at 4:59 AM, Javier Garcia wrote: No Kurt, you are not alone. I hate them too, besides the fact that they provide close to no illumination. Javier On Sep 20, 2012 8:11 PM, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com wrote: Am I really the only person in the world who doesn't have a raging boner for tiny turn signals? Seriously, I'd like some decent looking, GOOD SIZED turn signals. None of this 1 diameter round or smaller, or 1 or less length arrows. None of this mini nonsense. G. -Kurt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals
They're also cheap. They look like they would melt if the bike were left out in the sun. I've been looking at OEM blinkers for other bikes when I visit salvage yards. One day I'll find some with the look I'm looking for. -Kyle On Sep 21, 2012 3:59 AM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: No Kurt, you are not alone. I hate them too, besides the fact that they provide close to no illumination. Javier On Sep 20, 2012 8:11 PM, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com wrote: Am I really the only person in the world who doesn't have a raging boner for tiny turn signals? Seriously, I'd like some decent looking, GOOD SIZED turn signals. None of this 1 diameter round or smaller, or 1 or less length arrows. None of this mini nonsense. G. -Kurt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals
My fatboy has smaller signals and the only way to tell if they are still on is to look at the indicator on the tank because the lenses are front facing and recessed. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Nexus Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: where are you Javier? On Sep 21, 2012, at 4:59 AM, Javier Garcia wrote: No Kurt, you are not alone. I hate them too, besides the fact that they provide close to no illumination. Javier On Sep 20, 2012 8:11 PM, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com wrote: Am I really the only person in the world who doesn't have a raging boner for tiny turn signals? Seriously, I'd like some decent looking, GOOD SIZED turn signals. None of this 1 diameter round or smaller, or 1 or less length arrows. None of this mini nonsense. G. -Kurt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals
You might find something bigger, near oem size, in farm or construction equipment accesories. Just a thought. Sent from my LG phone Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote: They're also cheap. They look like they would melt if the bike were left out in the sun. I've been looking at OEM blinkers for other bikes when I visit salvage yards. One day I'll find some with the look I'm looking for. -Kyle On Sep 21, 2012 3:59 AM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: No Kurt, you are not alone. I hate them too, besides the fact that they provide close to no illumination. Javier On Sep 20, 2012 8:11 PM, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com wrote: Am I really the only person in the world who doesn't have a raging boner for tiny turn signals? Seriously, I'd like some decent looking, GOOD SIZED turn signals. None of this 1 diameter round or smaller, or 1 or less length arrows. None of this mini nonsense. G. -Kurt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals
Go to Hoosier Garage.com. They have some in expensive led turn signals. I bought a pair of their tall mirrors to replace the small flag type I like them. Quality is good too. Thank you, Ross M. Jamison Sent from my iPhone On Sep 21, 2012, at 5:59 AM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote: They're also cheap. They look like they would melt if the bike were left out in the sun. I've been looking at OEM blinkers for other bikes when I visit salvage yards. One day I'll find some with the look I'm looking for. -Kyle On Sep 21, 2012 3:59 AM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: No Kurt, you are not alone. I hate them too, besides the fact that they provide close to no illumination. Javier On Sep 20, 2012 8:11 PM, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com wrote: Am I really the only person in the world who doesn't have a raging boner for tiny turn signals? Seriously, I'd like some decent looking, GOOD SIZED turn signals. None of this 1 diameter round or smaller, or 1 or less length arrows. None of this mini nonsense. G. -Kurt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals
Yea they kind of defeat the purpose because no one can see them blink. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:11:11 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals Am I really the only person in the world who doesn't have a raging boner for tiny turn signals? Seriously, I'd like some decent looking, GOOD SIZED turn signals. None of this 1 diameter round or smaller, or 1 or less length arrows. None of this mini nonsense. G. -Kurt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals
I would LOVE something styled like the Bullet signals found on a lot of cruisers, but with blacked housings and a 2 diameter lens instead of a dinky 1. Any close suggestions? Kurt On Sep 21, 2012 7:39 AM, Larimer ruderalis...@yahoo.com wrote: You might find something bigger, near oem size, in farm or construction equipment accesories. Just a thought. Sent from my LG phone Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote: They're also cheap. They look like they would melt if the bike were left out in the sun. I've been looking at OEM blinkers for other bikes when I visit salvage yards. One day I'll find some with the look I'm looking for. -Kyle On Sep 21, 2012 3:59 AM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: No Kurt, you are not alone. I hate them too, besides the fact that they provide close to no illumination. Javier On Sep 20, 2012 8:11 PM, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com wrote: Am I really the only person in the world who doesn't have a raging boner for tiny turn signals? Seriously, I'd like some decent looking, GOOD SIZED turn signals. None of this 1 diameter round or smaller, or 1 or less length arrows. None of this mini nonsense. G. -Kurt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals
Try www.hoosiergarage.com. I'm impressed by their offerings Thank you, Ross M. Jamison Sent from my iPhone On Sep 21, 2012, at 7:51 AM, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com wrote: I would LOVE something styled like the Bullet signals found on a lot of cruisers, but with blacked housings and a 2 diameter lens instead of a dinky 1. Any close suggestions? Kurt On Sep 21, 2012 7:39 AM, Larimer ruderalis...@yahoo.com wrote: You might find something bigger, near oem size, in farm or construction equipment accesories. Just a thought. Sent from my LG phone Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote: They're also cheap. They look like they would melt if the bike were left out in the sun. I've been looking at OEM blinkers for other bikes when I visit salvage yards. One day I'll find some with the look I'm looking for. -Kyle On Sep 21, 2012 3:59 AM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: No Kurt, you are not alone. I hate them too, besides the fact that they provide close to no illumination. Javier On Sep 20, 2012 8:11 PM, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com wrote: Am I really the only person in the world who doesn't have a raging boner for tiny turn signals? Seriously, I'd like some decent looking, GOOD SIZED turn signals. None of this 1 diameter round or smaller, or 1 or less length arrows. None of this mini nonsense. G. -Kurt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals
I'm in Caracas right now Graham... I should be back the 29th. Javier. On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.comwrote: where are you Javier? On Sep 21, 2012, at 4:59 AM, Javier Garcia wrote: No Kurt, you are not alone. I hate them too, besides the fact that they provide close to no illumination. Javier On Sep 20, 2012 8:11 PM, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com wrote: Am I really the only person in the world who doesn't have a raging boner for tiny turn signals? Seriously, I'd like some decent looking, GOOD SIZED turn signals. None of this 1 diameter round or smaller, or 1 or less length arrows. None of this mini nonsense. G. -Kurt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals
Que molleja! Diga hola al Tío Hugo para mí. -Kyle On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in Caracas right now Graham... I should be back the 29th. Javier. On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: where are you Javier? On Sep 21, 2012, at 4:59 AM, Javier Garcia wrote: No Kurt, you are not alone. I hate them too, besides the fact that they provide close to no illumination. Javier On Sep 20, 2012 8:11 PM, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com wrote: Am I really the only person in the world who doesn't have a raging boner for tiny turn signals? Seriously, I'd like some decent looking, GOOD SIZED turn signals. None of this 1 diameter round or smaller, or 1 or less length arrows. None of this mini nonsense. G. -Kurt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals
Kyle, I am also planning to visit Maracaibo for the weekend, so I will be hearing that a lot. Hugo is a little bit busy with the upcoming elections, so we'll see. Javier. On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote: Que molleja! Diga hola al Tío Hugo para mí. -Kyle On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.comwrote: I'm in Caracas right now Graham... I should be back the 29th. Javier. On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: where are you Javier? On Sep 21, 2012, at 4:59 AM, Javier Garcia wrote: No Kurt, you are not alone. I hate them too, besides the fact that they provide close to no illumination. Javier On Sep 20, 2012 8:11 PM, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com wrote: Am I really the only person in the world who doesn't have a raging boner for tiny turn signals? Seriously, I'd like some decent looking, GOOD SIZED turn signals. None of this 1 diameter round or smaller, or 1 or less length arrows. None of this mini nonsense. G. -Kurt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals
The last time I was down there I got a touristy shirt that said Maracaibo and scrawled underneath it was *¡Qu**é Molleja!* It got ruined when our house flooded though. *Qué lastima*. So, if you happen to see one, I wear a large, hint hint ;) -Kyle On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Kyle, I am also planning to visit Maracaibo for the weekend, so I will be hearing that a lot. Hugo is a little bit busy with the upcoming elections, so we'll see. Javier. On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote: Que molleja! Diga hola al Tío Hugo para mí. -Kyle On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.comwrote: I'm in Caracas right now Graham... I should be back the 29th. Javier. On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: where are you Javier? On Sep 21, 2012, at 4:59 AM, Javier Garcia wrote: No Kurt, you are not alone. I hate them too, besides the fact that they provide close to no illumination. Javier On Sep 20, 2012 8:11 PM, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com wrote: Am I really the only person in the world who doesn't have a raging boner for tiny turn signals? Seriously, I'd like some decent looking, GOOD SIZED turn signals. None of this 1 diameter round or smaller, or 1 or less length arrows. None of this mini nonsense. G. -Kurt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals
Sure thing, I will look for one like that. J. On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote: The last time I was down there I got a touristy shirt that said Maracaibo and scrawled underneath it was *¡Qu**é Molleja!* It got ruined when our house flooded though. *Qué lastima*. So, if you happen to see one, I wear a large, hint hint ;) -Kyle On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.comwrote: Kyle, I am also planning to visit Maracaibo for the weekend, so I will be hearing that a lot. Hugo is a little bit busy with the upcoming elections, so we'll see. Javier. On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote: Que molleja! Diga hola al Tío Hugo para mí. -Kyle On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.comwrote: I'm in Caracas right now Graham... I should be back the 29th. Javier. On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: where are you Javier? On Sep 21, 2012, at 4:59 AM, Javier Garcia wrote: No Kurt, you are not alone. I hate them too, besides the fact that they provide close to no illumination. Javier On Sep 20, 2012 8:11 PM, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com wrote: Am I really the only person in the world who doesn't have a raging boner for tiny turn signals? Seriously, I'd like some decent looking, GOOD SIZED turn signals. None of this 1 diameter round or smaller, or 1 or less length arrows. None of this mini nonsense. G. -Kurt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US.
RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals
Im with you there. I want to be seen! ---Original Message--- From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Sent: 9/20/2012 8:11 pm To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals Am I really the only person in the world who doesn't have a raging boner for tiny turn signals? Seriously, I'd like some decent looking, GOOD SIZED turn signals. None of this 1 diameter round or smaller, or 1 or less length arrows. None of this mini nonsense. G. -Kurt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US.
RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals
Hello, Here is a web site with all sorts and kinds of turn signals. http://motorcycle-accessories.cruisercustomizing.com/search?model=username=model_id=0w=turn+signalssearch2.x=0search2.y=0 -Original Message- From: greenzer...@gmail.com greenzer...@gmail.com Sent: Sep 21, 2012 1:29 PM To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals Im with you there. I want to be seen! ---Original Message--- From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Sent: 9/20/2012 8:11 pm To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals Am I really the only person in the world who doesn't have a raging boner for tiny turn signals? Seriously, I'd like some decent looking, GOOD SIZED turn signals. None of this 1 diameter round or smaller, or 1 or less length arrows. None of this mini nonsense. G. -Kurt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US.
[Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals
Am I really the only person in the world who doesn't have a raging boner for tiny turn signals? Seriously, I'd like some decent looking, GOOD SIZED turn signals. None of this 1 diameter round or smaller, or 1 or less length arrows. None of this mini nonsense. G. -Kurt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird
Yea we are going up, at least Jason and I are. We're taking the bikes up, are you going to go too. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 00:31:46 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Wait, so are we really going? are you guys planning to riding the bikes? what is going on? Graham, I think Allen is referring to the blue Vulcan you got some time ago. I think you sold it right away. I should have a picture or two of that day. Javier. On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.comwrote: blue cruiser? I don't remember what that was. I have a silver Suzuki Boulevard M50 and I sold the low mileage '86. I never rode it much and I had to keep cleaning the carbs On Apr 5, 2012, at 9:28 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: So you kept the low mileage (red I think) and sold the blue one I rode the last time we came up? Do you still have that blue cruiser (the one Javier rode)? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Thu, 5 Apr 2012 21:13:09 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird 1986 , I still have an '85 700S and an '85 650 as well as my 750 with Javier's windshield on it. On Apr 5, 2012, at 8:18 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Which 700S did you sell? Personally I plan on knocking out the blinkers early so we can hang out and test ride each others bikes. I want your opinion of my VFR. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Thu, 5 Apr 2012 17:18:17 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Am I still hosting a blinker fixing party at my place on Saturday? Graham Here's the schedule: arrive sometime in the morning, look at bikes, wonder where the rest of them are, look at the XJ650, wonder where the rest of it is, talk about fixing the blinkers, have lunch, admire the GW, stare at the XJ650 for a while, lock Allen in the garage, return to garage when blinkers are working, help guy from Hagerstown MD load his new 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S he bought on eBay onto UHaul trailer, look at empty space in garage created by vacated Honda Nighthawk 700S, send boys out on bikes, give directions on cell phone after they get lost, return to same place of origin in pm, Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Sorry Ty. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:27:14 -0500 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Poor Ty, his thread was hijacked and now everybody is going to Graham's house to fix blinkers :) -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird
I remember - that was a nice bike - 900 cc On Apr 6, 2012, at 12:31 AM, Javier Garcia wrote: Wait, so are we really going? are you guys planning to riding the bikes? what is going on? Graham, I think Allen is referring to the blue Vulcan you got some time ago. I think you sold it right away. I should have a picture or two of that day. Javier. On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: blue cruiser? I don't remember what that was. I have a silver Suzuki Boulevard M50 and I sold the low mileage '86. I never rode it much and I had to keep cleaning the carbs On Apr 5, 2012, at 9:28 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: So you kept the low mileage (red I think) and sold the blue one I rode the last time we came up? Do you still have that blue cruiser (the one Javier rode)? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 21:13:09 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird 1986 , I still have an '85 700S and an '85 650 as well as my 750 with Javier's windshield on it. On Apr 5, 2012, at 8:18 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Which 700S did you sell? Personally I plan on knocking out the blinkers early so we can hang out and test ride each others bikes. I want your opinion of my VFR. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 17:18:17 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Am I still hosting a blinker fixing party at my place on Saturday? Graham Here's the schedule: arrive sometime in the morning, look at bikes, wonder where the rest of them are, look at the XJ650, wonder where the rest of it is, talk about fixing the blinkers, have lunch, admire the GW, stare at the XJ650 for a while, lock Allen in the garage, return to garage when blinkers are working, help guy from Hagerstown MD load his new 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S he bought on eBay onto UHaul trailer, look at empty space in garage created by vacated Honda Nighthawk 700S, send boys out on bikes, give directions on cell phone after they get lost, return to same place of origin in pm, Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Sorry Ty. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:27:14 -0500 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Poor Ty, his thread was hijacked and now everybody is going to Graham's house to fix blinkers :) -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Jason King joking1...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Jason King joking1...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking
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I use DOT 3 in the rear and DOT 5 in the front. On Apr 5, 2012, at 5:46 PM, Kurt Nolte wrote: Which of you is bringing the blinker fluid? Get the premium stuff, worth the price! Kurt On Apr 5, 2012 5:41 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Blinker party is still on, Al, Javier, and I On Apr 5, 2012 5:18 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: Am I still hosting a blinker fixing party at my place on Saturday? Graham Here's the schedule: arrive sometime in the morning, look at bikes, wonder where the rest of them are, look at the XJ650, wonder where the rest of it is, talk about fixing the blinkers, have lunch, admire the GW, stare at the XJ650 for a while, lock Allen in the garage, return to garage when blinkers are working, help guy from Hagerstown MD load his new 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S he bought on eBay onto UHaul trailer, look at empty space in garage created by vacated Honda Nighthawk 700S, send boys out on bikes, give directions on cell phone after they get lost, return to same place of origin in pm, Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Sorry Ty. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:27:14 -0500 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Poor Ty, his thread was hijacked and now everybody is going to Graham's house to fix blinkers :) -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Jason King joking1...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Jason King joking1...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Allen, I want you to get back here and get the turn signals working on a 1982 Yamaha Maxim XJ650 I have. The bikes only done 6k miles and runs great. The only remaining issue is the turn signals. There is no power to them. I've read your thread but it's still a mystery to me. So, what time can I expect you? Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: I think he meant bulbs. Do you
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Jason and I are planning to head out early (leave by 8AM) we'll call at the half way rest stop. Javier may not come, he is having visitors and they may come tomorrow. He was going to call me later to sure up plans. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 17:31:28 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Give me an ETA once you've got an idea. 1875 Beaver Run Rd, Lewisburg PA 17837 570 768-6430 Graham On Apr 5, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Jason King wrote: Blinker party is still on, Al, Javier, and I On Apr 5, 2012 5:18 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: Am I still hosting a blinker fixing party at my place on Saturday? Graham Here's the schedule: arrive sometime in the morning, look at bikes, wonder where the rest of them are, look at the XJ650, wonder where the rest of it is, talk about fixing the blinkers, have lunch, admire the GW, stare at the XJ650 for a while, lock Allen in the garage, return to garage when blinkers are working, help guy from Hagerstown MD load his new 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S he bought on eBay onto UHaul trailer, look at empty space in garage created by vacated Honda Nighthawk 700S, send boys out on bikes, give directions on cell phone after they get lost, return to same place of origin in pm, Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Sorry Ty. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:27:14 -0500 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Poor Ty, his thread was hijacked and now everybody is going to Graham's house to fix blinkers :) -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Jason King joking1...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Jason King joking1...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird
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Did Javier sell hi GW? On Apr 6, 2012, at 6:02 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Jason and I are planning to head out early (leave by 8AM) we'll call at the half way rest stop. Javier may not come, he is having visitors and they may come tomorrow. He was going to call me later to sure up plans. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 17:31:28 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Give me an ETA once you've got an idea. 1875 Beaver Run Rd, Lewisburg PA 17837 570 768-6430 Graham On Apr 5, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Jason King wrote: Blinker party is still on, Al, Javier, and I On Apr 5, 2012 5:18 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: Am I still hosting a blinker fixing party at my place on Saturday? Graham Here's the schedule: arrive sometime in the morning, look at bikes, wonder where the rest of them are, look at the XJ650, wonder where the rest of it is, talk about fixing the blinkers, have lunch, admire the GW, stare at the XJ650 for a while, lock Allen in the garage, return to garage when blinkers are working, help guy from Hagerstown MD load his new 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S he bought on eBay onto UHaul trailer, look at empty space in garage created by vacated Honda Nighthawk 700S, send boys out on bikes, give directions on cell phone after they get lost, return to same place of origin in pm, Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Sorry Ty. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:27:14 -0500 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Poor Ty, his thread was hijacked and now everybody is going to Graham's house to fix blinkers :) -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Jason King joking1...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Jason King joking1...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers
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Hey guys. So the situation is that I have to decide between going with Sahar but leaving in the afternoon, or going alone with the boys. I still don't know, I guess I will decide in the last minute (depending on how much trouble i am in). I sold the GW today, for my original asking price. Was a good deal for me, but I still sad to let her go. Javier. On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.comwrote: Did Javier sell hi GW? On Apr 6, 2012, at 6:02 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Jason and I are planning to head out early (leave by 8AM) we'll call at the half way rest stop. Javier may not come, he is having visitors and they may come tomorrow. He was going to call me later to sure up plans. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Fri, 6 Apr 2012 17:31:28 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Give me an ETA once you've got an idea. 1875 Beaver Run Rd, Lewisburg PA 17837 570 768-6430 Graham On Apr 5, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Jason King wrote: Blinker party is still on, Al, Javier, and I On Apr 5, 2012 5:18 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: Am I still hosting a blinker fixing party at my place on Saturday? Graham Here's the schedule: arrive sometime in the morning, look at bikes, wonder where the rest of them are, look at the XJ650, wonder where the rest of it is, talk about fixing the blinkers, have lunch, admire the GW, stare at the XJ650 for a while, lock Allen in the garage, return to garage when blinkers are working, help guy from Hagerstown MD load his new 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S he bought on eBay onto UHaul trailer, look at empty space in garage created by vacated Honda Nighthawk 700S, send boys out on bikes, give directions on cell phone after they get lost, return to same place of origin in pm, Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Sorry Ty. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:27:14 -0500 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Poor Ty, his thread was hijacked and now everybody is going to Graham's house to fix blinkers :) -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr
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Considering what you paid for it, and what you put into fixing its issues, you came out ahead on that one. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 18:54:42 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Hey guys. So the situation is that I have to decide between going with Sahar but leaving in the afternoon, or going alone with the boys. I still don't know, I guess I will decide in the last minute (depending on how much trouble i am in). I sold the GW today, for my original asking price. Was a good deal for me, but I still sad to let her go. Javier. On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.comwrote: Did Javier sell hi GW? On Apr 6, 2012, at 6:02 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Jason and I are planning to head out early (leave by 8AM) we'll call at the half way rest stop. Javier may not come, he is having visitors and they may come tomorrow. He was going to call me later to sure up plans. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Fri, 6 Apr 2012 17:31:28 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Give me an ETA once you've got an idea. 1875 Beaver Run Rd, Lewisburg PA 17837 570 768-6430 Graham On Apr 5, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Jason King wrote: Blinker party is still on, Al, Javier, and I On Apr 5, 2012 5:18 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: Am I still hosting a blinker fixing party at my place on Saturday? Graham Here's the schedule: arrive sometime in the morning, look at bikes, wonder where the rest of them are, look at the XJ650, wonder where the rest of it is, talk about fixing the blinkers, have lunch, admire the GW, stare at the XJ650 for a while, lock Allen in the garage, return to garage when blinkers are working, help guy from Hagerstown MD load his new 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S he bought on eBay onto UHaul trailer, look at empty space in garage created by vacated Honda Nighthawk 700S, send boys out on bikes, give directions on cell phone after they get lost, return to same place of origin in pm, Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Sorry Ty. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:27:14 -0500 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Poor Ty, his thread was hijacked and now everybody is going to Graham's house to fix blinkers :) -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have
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Joan won't be around much. She has to go over to her parents. I personally don't think there is such a person as Sahar. I've never seen her, never met her. It's just a name I hear now and then, Graham On Apr 6, 2012, at 6:54 PM, Javier Garcia wrote: Hey guys. So the situation is that I have to decide between going with Sahar but leaving in the afternoon, or going alone with the boys. I still don't know, I guess I will decide in the last minute (depending on how much trouble i am in). I sold the GW today, for my original asking price. Was a good deal for me, but I still sad to let her go. Javier. On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: Did Javier sell hi GW? On Apr 6, 2012, at 6:02 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Jason and I are planning to head out early (leave by 8AM) we'll call at the half way rest stop. Javier may not come, he is having visitors and they may come tomorrow. He was going to call me later to sure up plans. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 17:31:28 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Give me an ETA once you've got an idea. 1875 Beaver Run Rd, Lewisburg PA 17837 570 768-6430 Graham On Apr 5, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Jason King wrote: Blinker party is still on, Al, Javier, and I On Apr 5, 2012 5:18 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: Am I still hosting a blinker fixing party at my place on Saturday? Graham Here's the schedule: arrive sometime in the morning, look at bikes, wonder where the rest of them are, look at the XJ650, wonder where the rest of it is, talk about fixing the blinkers, have lunch, admire the GW, stare at the XJ650 for a while, lock Allen in the garage, return to garage when blinkers are working, help guy from Hagerstown MD load his new 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S he bought on eBay onto UHaul trailer, look at empty space in garage created by vacated Honda Nighthawk 700S, send boys out on bikes, give directions on cell phone after they get lost, return to same place of origin in pm, Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Sorry Ty. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:27:14 -0500 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Poor Ty, his thread was hijacked and now everybody is going to Graham's house to fix blinkers :) -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Jason King joking1...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Jason King joking1...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog
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Yeah yeah, I know you think I am crazy, but I am telling you, she exist, otherwise I would have a hell more bikes and be completely broke. BTW, so far it looks like the option of just the boys is getting stronger, but I will keep you all posted. J. On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.comwrote: Joan won't be around much. She has to go over to her parents. I personally don't think there is such a person as Sahar. I've never seen her, never met her. It's just a name I hear now and then, Graham On Apr 6, 2012, at 6:54 PM, Javier Garcia wrote: Hey guys. So the situation is that I have to decide between going with Sahar but leaving in the afternoon, or going alone with the boys. I still don't know, I guess I will decide in the last minute (depending on how much trouble i am in). I sold the GW today, for my original asking price. Was a good deal for me, but I still sad to let her go. Javier. On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.comwrote: Did Javier sell hi GW? On Apr 6, 2012, at 6:02 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Jason and I are planning to head out early (leave by 8AM) we'll call at the half way rest stop. Javier may not come, he is having visitors and they may come tomorrow. He was going to call me later to sure up plans. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Fri, 6 Apr 2012 17:31:28 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Give me an ETA once you've got an idea. 1875 Beaver Run Rd, Lewisburg PA 17837 570 768-6430 Graham On Apr 5, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Jason King wrote: Blinker party is still on, Al, Javier, and I On Apr 5, 2012 5:18 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: Am I still hosting a blinker fixing party at my place on Saturday? Graham Here's the schedule: arrive sometime in the morning, look at bikes, wonder where the rest of them are, look at the XJ650, wonder where the rest of it is, talk about fixing the blinkers, have lunch, admire the GW, stare at the XJ650 for a while, lock Allen in the garage, return to garage when blinkers are working, help guy from Hagerstown MD load his new 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S he bought on eBay onto UHaul trailer, look at empty space in garage created by vacated Honda Nighthawk 700S, send boys out on bikes, give directions on cell phone after they get lost, return to same place of origin in pm, Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Sorry Ty. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:27:14 -0500 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Poor Ty, his thread was hijacked and now everybody is going to Graham's house to fix blinkers :) -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from
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Am I still hosting a blinker fixing party at my place on Saturday? Graham Here's the schedule: arrive sometime in the morning, look at bikes, wonder where the rest of them are, look at the XJ650, wonder where the rest of it is, talk about fixing the blinkers, have lunch, admire the GW, stare at the XJ650 for a while, lock Allen in the garage, return to garage when blinkers are working, help guy from Hagerstown MD load his new 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S he bought on eBay onto UHaul trailer, look at empty space in garage created by vacated Honda Nighthawk 700S, send boys out on bikes, give directions on cell phone after they get lost, return to same place of origin in pm, Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Sorry Ty. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:27:14 -0500 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Poor Ty, his thread was hijacked and now everybody is going to Graham's house to fix blinkers :) -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Jason King joking1...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Jason King joking1...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Allen, I want you to get back here and get the turn signals working on a 1982 Yamaha Maxim XJ650 I have. The bikes only done 6k miles and runs great. The only remaining issue is the turn signals. There is no power to them. I've read your thread but it's still a mystery to me. So, what time can I expect you? Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: I think he meant bulbs. Do you have any LED bulbs installed? This should be pretty easy to troubleshoot, start with making sure you don't have any resistance on the grounds which are probably green wires, though I couldn't find a wiring diagram online. make sure your getting power from the left hand control for all switch positions and then check to ensure the power is making it to the bulb sockets. On Tue, Apr
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i wish i had the gas money to make it up there.. this week the only thing im doing is fixing the trans in a friends pickup... i would much rather road trip back up north.. On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.comwrote: Am I still hosting a blinker fixing party at my place on Saturday? Graham Here's the schedule: arrive sometime in the morning, look at bikes, wonder where the rest of them are, look at the XJ650, wonder where the rest of it is, talk about fixing the blinkers, have lunch, admire the GW, stare at the XJ650 for a while, lock Allen in the garage, return to garage when blinkers are working, help guy from Hagerstown MD load his new 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S he bought on eBay onto UHaul trailer, look at empty space in garage created by vacated Honda Nighthawk 700S, send boys out on bikes, give directions on cell phone after they get lost, return to same place of origin in pm, Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Sorry Ty. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:27:14 -0500 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Poor Ty, his thread was hijacked and now everybody is going to Graham's house to fix blinkers :) -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Allen, I want you to get back here and get the turn signals working on a 1982 Yamaha Maxim XJ650 I have. The bikes only done 6k miles and runs great. The only remaining issue is the turn signals. There is no power to them. I've read your thread but it's still a mystery to me. So, what time can I expect you
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Blinker party is still on, Al, Javier, and I On Apr 5, 2012 5:18 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: Am I still hosting a blinker fixing party at my place on Saturday? Graham Here's the schedule: arrive sometime in the morning, look at bikes, wonder where the rest of them are, look at the XJ650, wonder where the rest of it is, talk about fixing the blinkers, have lunch, admire the GW, stare at the XJ650 for a while, lock Allen in the garage, return to garage when blinkers are working, help guy from Hagerstown MD load his new 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S he bought on eBay onto UHaul trailer, look at empty space in garage created by vacated Honda Nighthawk 700S, send boys out on bikes, give directions on cell phone after they get lost, return to same place of origin in pm, Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Sorry Ty. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:27:14 -0500 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Poor Ty, his thread was hijacked and now everybody is going to Graham's house to fix blinkers :) -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Allen, I want you to get back here and get the turn signals working on a 1982 Yamaha Maxim XJ650 I have. The bikes only done 6k miles and runs great. The only remaining issue is the turn signals. There is no power to them. I've read your thread but it's still a mystery to me. So, what time can I expect you? Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: I think he meant bulbs. Do you have any LED bulbs installed? This should
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Which of you is bringing the blinker fluid? Get the premium stuff, worth the price! Kurt On Apr 5, 2012 5:41 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Blinker party is still on, Al, Javier, and I On Apr 5, 2012 5:18 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: Am I still hosting a blinker fixing party at my place on Saturday? Graham Here's the schedule: arrive sometime in the morning, look at bikes, wonder where the rest of them are, look at the XJ650, wonder where the rest of it is, talk about fixing the blinkers, have lunch, admire the GW, stare at the XJ650 for a while, lock Allen in the garage, return to garage when blinkers are working, help guy from Hagerstown MD load his new 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S he bought on eBay onto UHaul trailer, look at empty space in garage created by vacated Honda Nighthawk 700S, send boys out on bikes, give directions on cell phone after they get lost, return to same place of origin in pm, Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Sorry Ty. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:27:14 -0500 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Poor Ty, his thread was hijacked and now everybody is going to Graham's house to fix blinkers :) -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Allen, I want you to get back here and get the turn signals working on a 1982 Yamaha Maxim XJ650 I have. The bikes only done 6k miles and runs great. The only remaining issue is the turn signals. There is no power to them. I've read your thread but it's still a mystery to me. So, what
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Which 700S did you sell? Personally I plan on knocking out the blinkers early so we can hang out and test ride each others bikes. I want your opinion of my VFR. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 17:18:17 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Am I still hosting a blinker fixing party at my place on Saturday? Graham Here's the schedule: arrive sometime in the morning, look at bikes, wonder where the rest of them are, look at the XJ650, wonder where the rest of it is, talk about fixing the blinkers, have lunch, admire the GW, stare at the XJ650 for a while, lock Allen in the garage, return to garage when blinkers are working, help guy from Hagerstown MD load his new 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S he bought on eBay onto UHaul trailer, look at empty space in garage created by vacated Honda Nighthawk 700S, send boys out on bikes, give directions on cell phone after they get lost, return to same place of origin in pm, Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Sorry Ty. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:27:14 -0500 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Poor Ty, his thread was hijacked and now everybody is going to Graham's house to fix blinkers :) -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Jason King joking1...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Jason King joking1...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Allen, I want you to get back here and get the turn signals working on a 1982 Yamaha Maxim XJ650 I have. The bikes only done 6k miles and runs great. The only remaining issue is the turn signals. There is no power to them. I've read your thread but it's still a mystery to me. So, what time can I expect you? Graham
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*We need to have a West Coast version of a blinker party. I'm totally feeling left out.* * Paul LeBoutillier * * * *www.hondanighthawks.net* On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Which 700S did you sell? Personally I plan on knocking out the blinkers early so we can hang out and test ride each others bikes. I want your opinion of my VFR. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Thu, 5 Apr 2012 17:18:17 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Am I still hosting a blinker fixing party at my place on Saturday? Graham Here's the schedule: arrive sometime in the morning, look at bikes, wonder where the rest of them are, look at the XJ650, wonder where the rest of it is, talk about fixing the blinkers, have lunch, admire the GW, stare at the XJ650 for a while, lock Allen in the garage, return to garage when blinkers are working, help guy from Hagerstown MD load his new 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S he bought on eBay onto UHaul trailer, look at empty space in garage created by vacated Honda Nighthawk 700S, send boys out on bikes, give directions on cell phone after they get lost, return to same place of origin in pm, Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Sorry Ty. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:27:14 -0500 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Poor Ty, his thread was hijacked and now everybody is going to Graham's house to fix blinkers :) -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 -0400
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The logical thing would be to have a blinker party in a nice central location, such as the Texas Gulf Coast ;) -Kyle On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net wrote: *We need to have a West Coast version of a blinker party. I'm totally feeling left out.* * Paul LeBoutillier * * * *www.hondanighthawks.net* On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.comwrote: Which 700S did you sell? Personally I plan on knocking out the blinkers early so we can hang out and test ride each others bikes. I want your opinion of my VFR. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Thu, 5 Apr 2012 17:18:17 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Am I still hosting a blinker fixing party at my place on Saturday? Graham Here's the schedule: arrive sometime in the morning, look at bikes, wonder where the rest of them are, look at the XJ650, wonder where the rest of it is, talk about fixing the blinkers, have lunch, admire the GW, stare at the XJ650 for a while, lock Allen in the garage, return to garage when blinkers are working, help guy from Hagerstown MD load his new 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S he bought on eBay onto UHaul trailer, look at empty space in garage created by vacated Honda Nighthawk 700S, send boys out on bikes, give directions on cell phone after they get lost, return to same place of origin in pm, Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Sorry Ty. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:27:14 -0500 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Poor Ty, his thread was hijacked and now everybody is going to Graham's house to fix blinkers :) -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again
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than host one... thats what we are doing... i think... so far theres only 1 confermed On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net wrote: *We need to have a West Coast version of a blinker party. I'm totally feeling left out.* * Paul LeBoutillier * * * *www.hondanighthawks.net* On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.comwrote: Which 700S did you sell? Personally I plan on knocking out the blinkers early so we can hang out and test ride each others bikes. I want your opinion of my VFR. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Thu, 5 Apr 2012 17:18:17 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Am I still hosting a blinker fixing party at my place on Saturday? Graham Here's the schedule: arrive sometime in the morning, look at bikes, wonder where the rest of them are, look at the XJ650, wonder where the rest of it is, talk about fixing the blinkers, have lunch, admire the GW, stare at the XJ650 for a while, lock Allen in the garage, return to garage when blinkers are working, help guy from Hagerstown MD load his new 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S he bought on eBay onto UHaul trailer, look at empty space in garage created by vacated Honda Nighthawk 700S, send boys out on bikes, give directions on cell phone after they get lost, return to same place of origin in pm, Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Sorry Ty. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:27:14 -0500 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Poor Ty, his thread was hijacked and now everybody is going to Graham's house to fix blinkers :) -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry
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1986 , I still have an '85 700S and an '85 650 as well as my 750 with Javier's windshield on it. On Apr 5, 2012, at 8:18 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Which 700S did you sell? Personally I plan on knocking out the blinkers early so we can hang out and test ride each others bikes. I want your opinion of my VFR. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 17:18:17 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Am I still hosting a blinker fixing party at my place on Saturday? Graham Here's the schedule: arrive sometime in the morning, look at bikes, wonder where the rest of them are, look at the XJ650, wonder where the rest of it is, talk about fixing the blinkers, have lunch, admire the GW, stare at the XJ650 for a while, lock Allen in the garage, return to garage when blinkers are working, help guy from Hagerstown MD load his new 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S he bought on eBay onto UHaul trailer, look at empty space in garage created by vacated Honda Nighthawk 700S, send boys out on bikes, give directions on cell phone after they get lost, return to same place of origin in pm, Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Sorry Ty. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:27:14 -0500 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Poor Ty, his thread was hijacked and now everybody is going to Graham's house to fix blinkers :) -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Jason King joking1...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Jason King joking1...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Allen, I want you to get back here and get the turn signals working on a 1982 Yamaha Maxim XJ650 I have. The bikes only done 6k miles and runs great. The only remaining issue
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So you kept the low mileage (red I think) and sold the blue one I rode the last time we came up? Do you still have that blue cruiser (the one Javier rode)? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 21:13:09 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird 1986 , I still have an '85 700S and an '85 650 as well as my 750 with Javier's windshield on it. On Apr 5, 2012, at 8:18 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Which 700S did you sell? Personally I plan on knocking out the blinkers early so we can hang out and test ride each others bikes. I want your opinion of my VFR. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 17:18:17 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Am I still hosting a blinker fixing party at my place on Saturday? Graham Here's the schedule: arrive sometime in the morning, look at bikes, wonder where the rest of them are, look at the XJ650, wonder where the rest of it is, talk about fixing the blinkers, have lunch, admire the GW, stare at the XJ650 for a while, lock Allen in the garage, return to garage when blinkers are working, help guy from Hagerstown MD load his new 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S he bought on eBay onto UHaul trailer, look at empty space in garage created by vacated Honda Nighthawk 700S, send boys out on bikes, give directions on cell phone after they get lost, return to same place of origin in pm, Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Sorry Ty. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:27:14 -0500 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Poor Ty, his thread was hijacked and now everybody is going to Graham's house to fix blinkers :) -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Jason King joking1...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Jason King joking1...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via
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blue cruiser? I don't remember what that was. I have a silver Suzuki Boulevard M50 and I sold the low mileage '86. I never rode it much and I had to keep cleaning the carbs On Apr 5, 2012, at 9:28 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: So you kept the low mileage (red I think) and sold the blue one I rode the last time we came up? Do you still have that blue cruiser (the one Javier rode)? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 21:13:09 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird 1986 , I still have an '85 700S and an '85 650 as well as my 750 with Javier's windshield on it. On Apr 5, 2012, at 8:18 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Which 700S did you sell? Personally I plan on knocking out the blinkers early so we can hang out and test ride each others bikes. I want your opinion of my VFR. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 17:18:17 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Am I still hosting a blinker fixing party at my place on Saturday? Graham Here's the schedule: arrive sometime in the morning, look at bikes, wonder where the rest of them are, look at the XJ650, wonder where the rest of it is, talk about fixing the blinkers, have lunch, admire the GW, stare at the XJ650 for a while, lock Allen in the garage, return to garage when blinkers are working, help guy from Hagerstown MD load his new 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S he bought on eBay onto UHaul trailer, look at empty space in garage created by vacated Honda Nighthawk 700S, send boys out on bikes, give directions on cell phone after they get lost, return to same place of origin in pm, Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Sorry Ty. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:27:14 -0500 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Poor Ty, his thread was hijacked and now everybody is going to Graham's house to fix blinkers :) -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Jason King joking1...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Jason King joking1...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have
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Wait, so are we really going? are you guys planning to riding the bikes? what is going on? Graham, I think Allen is referring to the blue Vulcan you got some time ago. I think you sold it right away. I should have a picture or two of that day. Javier. On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.comwrote: blue cruiser? I don't remember what that was. I have a silver Suzuki Boulevard M50 and I sold the low mileage '86. I never rode it much and I had to keep cleaning the carbs On Apr 5, 2012, at 9:28 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: So you kept the low mileage (red I think) and sold the blue one I rode the last time we came up? Do you still have that blue cruiser (the one Javier rode)? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Thu, 5 Apr 2012 21:13:09 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird 1986 , I still have an '85 700S and an '85 650 as well as my 750 with Javier's windshield on it. On Apr 5, 2012, at 8:18 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Which 700S did you sell? Personally I plan on knocking out the blinkers early so we can hang out and test ride each others bikes. I want your opinion of my VFR. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Thu, 5 Apr 2012 17:18:17 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Am I still hosting a blinker fixing party at my place on Saturday? Graham Here's the schedule: arrive sometime in the morning, look at bikes, wonder where the rest of them are, look at the XJ650, wonder where the rest of it is, talk about fixing the blinkers, have lunch, admire the GW, stare at the XJ650 for a while, lock Allen in the garage, return to garage when blinkers are working, help guy from Hagerstown MD load his new 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S he bought on eBay onto UHaul trailer, look at empty space in garage created by vacated Honda Nighthawk 700S, send boys out on bikes, give directions on cell phone after they get lost, return to same place of origin in pm, Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Sorry Ty. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:27:14 -0500 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Poor Ty, his thread was hijacked and now everybody is going to Graham's house to fix blinkers :) -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show
[Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird
I own a 1984 Knighthawk 700 S I am having trouble with the turn signals and it is a weird situation, i havent found one like it. The front signal lights are on as normal acting as the marker lights and rears are 2 wires so they are off like normal. When i flip the switch to the right, the front right marker goes off and only the rear will sometimes flash. when i flip the switch to the left the fron right light flashes and the rear does nothing. I can hear the relay clicking and we tried some tests on it and it seams ok. I looked at the wiring diagram and the next possible thing could be the turn signal cancel unit??? I am not sure what i should do yet hoping someone has had a similar problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
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Check the bills to make sure they are correct On Apr 3, 2012 1:21 PM, Ty Knighthawk 700S ty.lasc...@gmail.com wrote: I own a 1984 Knighthawk 700 S I am having trouble with the turn signals and it is a weird situation, i havent found one like it. The front signal lights are on as normal acting as the marker lights and rears are 2 wires so they are off like normal. When i flip the switch to the right, the front right marker goes off and only the rear will sometimes flash. when i flip the switch to the left the fron right light flashes and the rear does nothing. I can hear the relay clicking and we tried some tests on it and it seams ok. I looked at the wiring diagram and the next possible thing could be the turn signal cancel unit??? I am not sure what i should do yet hoping someone has had a similar problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
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I think he meant bulbs. Do you have any LED bulbs installed? This should be pretty easy to troubleshoot, start with making sure you don't have any resistance on the grounds which are probably green wires, though I couldn't find a wiring diagram online. make sure your getting power from the left hand control for all switch positions and then check to ensure the power is making it to the bulb sockets. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Check the bills to make sure they are correct On Apr 3, 2012 1:21 PM, Ty Knighthawk 700S ty.lasc...@gmail.com wrote: I own a 1984 Knighthawk 700 S I am having trouble with the turn signals and it is a weird situation, i havent found one like it. The front signal lights are on as normal acting as the marker lights and rears are 2 wires so they are off like normal. When i flip the switch to the right, the front right marker goes off and only the rear will sometimes flash. when i flip the switch to the left the fron right light flashes and the rear does nothing. I can hear the relay clicking and we tried some tests on it and it seams ok. I looked at the wiring diagram and the next possible thing could be the turn signal cancel unit??? I am not sure what i should do yet hoping someone has had a similar problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird
Allen, I want you to get back here and get the turn signals working on a 1982 Yamaha Maxim XJ650 I have. The bikes only done 6k miles and runs great. The only remaining issue is the turn signals. There is no power to them. I've read your thread but it's still a mystery to me. So, what time can I expect you? Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: I think he meant bulbs. Do you have any LED bulbs installed? This should be pretty easy to troubleshoot, start with making sure you don't have any resistance on the grounds which are probably green wires, though I couldn't find a wiring diagram online. make sure your getting power from the left hand control for all switch positions and then check to ensure the power is making it to the bulb sockets. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Check the bills to make sure they are correct On Apr 3, 2012 1:21 PM, Ty Knighthawk 700S ty.lasc...@gmail.com wrote: I own a 1984 Knighthawk 700 S I am having trouble with the turn signals and it is a weird situation, i havent found one like it. The front signal lights are on as normal acting as the marker lights and rears are 2 wires so they are off like normal. When i flip the switch to the right, the front right marker goes off and only the rear will sometimes flash. when i flip the switch to the left the fron right light flashes and the rear does nothing. I can hear the relay clicking and we tried some tests on it and it seams ok. I looked at the wiring diagram and the next possible thing could be the turn signal cancel unit??? I am not sure what i should do yet hoping someone has had a similar problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird
I had a similar problem with my 99 250. My solution ended up being to sell the bike. I just had a great deal on a goldwing fall into my lap that i couldent turn away and needed to sell the nh to make it happen... I love the goldwing, but miss my little nh alot. ---Original Message--- From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Sent: 4/3/2012 1:21 pm To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I own a 1984 Knighthawk 700 S I am having trouble with the turn signals and it is a weird situation, i havent found one like it. The front signal lights are on as normal acting as the marker lights and rears are 2 wires so they are off like normal. When i flip the switch to the right, the front right marker goes off and only the rear will sometimes flash. when i flip the switch to the left the fron right light flashes and the rear does nothing. I can hear the relay clicking and we tried some tests on it and it seams ok. I looked at the wiring diagram and the next possible thing could be the turn signal cancel unit??? I am not sure what i should do yet hoping someone has had a similar problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird
Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Allen, I want you to get back here and get the turn signals working on a 1982 Yamaha Maxim XJ650 I have. The bikes only done 6k miles and runs great. The only remaining issue is the turn signals. There is no power to them. I've read your thread but it's still a mystery to me. So, what time can I expect you? Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: I think he meant bulbs. Do you have any LED bulbs installed? This should be pretty easy to troubleshoot, start with making sure you don't have any resistance on the grounds which are probably green wires, though I couldn't find a wiring diagram online. make sure your getting power from the left hand control for all switch positions and then check to ensure the power is making it to the bulb sockets. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Check the bills to make sure they are correct On Apr 3, 2012 1:21 PM, Ty Knighthawk 700S ty.lasc...@gmail.com wrote: I own a 1984 Knighthawk 700 S I am having trouble with the turn signals and it is a weird situation, i havent found one like it. The front signal lights are on as normal acting as the marker lights and rears are 2 wires so they are off like normal. When i flip the switch to the right, the front right marker goes off and only the rear will sometimes flash. when i flip the switch to the left the fron right light flashes and the rear does nothing. I can hear the relay clicking and we tried some tests on it and it seams ok. I looked at the wiring diagram and the next possible thing could be the turn signal cancel unit??? I am not sure what i should do yet hoping someone has had a similar problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird
+1 on checking the bulbs, I'd also make sure there's no foolishment going on with grounds and that all the oranges and blues are where they should be. Don't cross the streams. -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Allen, I want you to get back here and get the turn signals working on a 1982 Yamaha Maxim XJ650 I have. The bikes only done 6k miles and runs great. The only remaining issue is the turn signals. There is no power to them. I've read your thread but it's still a mystery to me. So, what time can I expect you? Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: I think he meant bulbs. Do you have any LED bulbs installed? This should be pretty easy to troubleshoot, start with making sure you don't have any resistance on the grounds which are probably green wires, though I couldn't find a wiring diagram online. make sure your getting power from the left hand control for all switch positions and then check to ensure the power is making it to the bulb sockets. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Check the bills to make sure they are correct On Apr 3, 2012 1:21 PM, Ty Knighthawk 700S ty.lasc...@gmail.com wrote: I own a 1984 Knighthawk 700 S I am having trouble with the turn signals and it is a weird situation, i havent found one like it. The front signal lights are on as normal acting as the marker lights and rears are 2 wires so they are off like normal. When i flip the switch to the right, the front right marker goes off and only the rear will sometimes flash. when i flip the switch to the left the fron right light flashes and the rear does nothing. I can hear the relay clicking and we tried some tests on it and it seams ok. I looked at the wiring diagram and the next possible thing could be the turn signal cancel unit??? I am not sure what i should do yet hoping someone has had a similar problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird
I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Allen, I want you to get back here and get the turn signals working on a 1982 Yamaha Maxim XJ650 I have. The bikes only done 6k miles and runs great. The only remaining issue is the turn signals. There is no power to them. I've read your thread but it's still a mystery to me. So, what time can I expect you? Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: I think he meant bulbs. Do you have any LED bulbs installed? This should be pretty easy to troubleshoot, start with making sure you don't have any resistance on the grounds which are probably green wires, though I couldn't find a wiring diagram online. make sure your getting power from the left hand control for all switch positions and then check to ensure the power is making it to the bulb sockets. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Check the bills to make sure they are correct On Apr 3, 2012 1:21 PM, Ty Knighthawk 700S ty.lasc...@gmail.com wrote: I own a 1984 Knighthawk 700 S I am having trouble with the turn signals and it is a weird situation, i havent found one like it. The front signal lights are on as normal acting as the marker lights and rears are 2 wires so they are off like normal. When i flip the switch to the right, the front right marker goes off and only the rear will sometimes flash. when i flip the switch to the left the fron right light flashes and the rear does nothing. I can hear the relay clicking and we tried some tests on it and it seams ok. I looked at the wiring diagram and the next possible thing could be the turn signal cancel unit??? I am not sure what i should do yet hoping someone has had a similar problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird
Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Allen, I want you to get back here and get the turn signals working on a 1982 Yamaha Maxim XJ650 I have. The bikes only done 6k miles and runs great. The only remaining issue is the turn signals. There is no power to them. I've read your thread but it's still a mystery to me. So, what time can I expect you? Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: I think he meant bulbs. Do you have any LED bulbs installed? This should be pretty easy to troubleshoot, start with making sure you don't have any resistance on the grounds which are probably green wires, though I couldn't find a wiring diagram online. make sure your getting power from the left hand control for all switch positions and then check to ensure the power is making it to the bulb sockets. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Check the bills to make sure they are correct On Apr 3, 2012 1:21 PM, Ty Knighthawk 700S ty.lasc...@gmail.com wrote: I own a 1984 Knighthawk 700 S I am having trouble with the turn signals and it is a weird situation, i havent found one like it. The front signal lights are on as normal acting as the marker lights and rears are 2 wires so they are off like normal. When i flip the switch to the right, the front right marker goes off and only the rear will sometimes flash. when i flip the switch to the left the fron right light flashes and the rear does nothing. I can hear the relay clicking and we tried some tests on it and it seams ok. I looked at the wiring diagram and the next possible thing could be the turn signal cancel unit??? I am not sure what i should do yet hoping someone has had a similar problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird
The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Allen, I want you to get back here and get the turn signals working on a 1982 Yamaha Maxim XJ650 I have. The bikes only done 6k miles and runs great. The only remaining issue is the turn signals. There is no power to them. I've read your thread but it's still a mystery to me. So, what time can I expect you? Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: I think he meant bulbs. Do you have any LED bulbs installed? This should be pretty easy to troubleshoot, start with making sure you don't have any resistance on the grounds which are probably green wires, though I couldn't find a wiring diagram online. make sure your getting power from the left hand control for all switch positions and then check to ensure the power is making it to the bulb sockets. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Check the bills to make sure they are correct On Apr 3, 2012 1:21 PM, Ty Knighthawk 700S ty.lasc...@gmail.com wrote: I own a 1984 Knighthawk 700 S I am having trouble with the turn signals and it is a weird situation, i havent found one like it. The front signal lights are on as normal acting as the marker lights and rears are 2 wires so they are off like normal. When i flip the switch to the right, the front right marker goes off and only the rear will sometimes flash. when i flip the switch to the left the fron right light flashes and the rear does nothing. I can hear the relay clicking and we tried some tests on it and it seams ok. I looked at the wiring diagram and the next possible thing could be the turn signal cancel unit??? I am not sure what i should do yet hoping someone has had a similar problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird
Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.comwrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Allen, I want you to get back here and get the turn signals working on a 1982 Yamaha Maxim XJ650 I have. The bikes only done 6k miles and runs great. The only remaining issue is the turn signals. There is no power to them. I've read your thread but it's still a mystery to me. So, what time can I expect you? Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: I think he meant bulbs. Do you have any LED bulbs installed? This should be pretty easy to troubleshoot, start with making sure you don't have any resistance on the grounds which are probably green wires, though I couldn't find a wiring diagram online. make sure your getting power from the left hand control for all switch positions and then check to ensure the power is making it to the bulb sockets. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Check the bills to make sure they are correct On Apr 3, 2012 1:21 PM, Ty Knighthawk 700S ty.lasc...@gmail.com wrote: I own a 1984 Knighthawk 700 S I am having trouble with the turn signals and it is a weird situation, i havent found one like it. The front signal lights are on as normal acting as the marker lights and rears are 2 wires so they are off like normal. When i flip the switch to the right, the front right marker goes off and only the rear will sometimes flash. when i flip the switch to the left the fron right light flashes and the rear does nothing. I can hear the relay clicking and we tried some tests on it and it seams ok. I looked at the wiring diagram and the next possible thing could be the turn signal cancel unit??? I am not sure what i should do yet hoping someone has had a similar problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird
Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.comwrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Allen, I want you to get back here and get the turn signals working on a 1982 Yamaha Maxim XJ650 I have. The bikes only done 6k miles and runs great. The only remaining issue is the turn signals. There is no power to them. I've read your thread but it's still a mystery to me. So, what time can I expect you? Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: I think he meant bulbs. Do you have any LED bulbs installed? This should be pretty easy to troubleshoot, start with making sure you don't have any resistance on the grounds which are probably green wires, though I couldn't find a wiring diagram online. make sure your getting power from the left hand control for all switch positions and then check to ensure the power is making it to the bulb sockets. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Check the bills to make sure they are correct On Apr 3, 2012 1:21 PM, Ty Knighthawk 700S ty.lasc...@gmail.com wrote: I own a 1984 Knighthawk 700 S I am having trouble with the turn signals and it is a weird situation, i havent found one like it. The front signal lights are on as normal acting as the marker lights and rears are 2 wires so they are off like normal. When i flip the switch to the right, the front right marker goes off and only the rear will sometimes flash. when i flip the switch to the left the fron right light flashes and the rear does nothing. I can hear the relay clicking and we tried some tests on it and it seams ok. I looked at the wiring diagram and the next possible thing could be the turn signal cancel unit??? I am not sure what i should do yet hoping someone has had a similar problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird
Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Jason King joking1...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.comwrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Allen, I want you to get back here and get the turn signals working on a 1982 Yamaha Maxim XJ650 I have. The bikes only done 6k miles and runs great. The only remaining issue is the turn signals. There is no power to them. I've read your thread but it's still a mystery to me. So, what time can I expect you? Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: I think he meant bulbs. Do you have any LED bulbs installed? This should be pretty easy to troubleshoot, start with making sure you don't have any resistance on the grounds which are probably green wires, though I couldn't find a wiring diagram online. make sure your getting power from the left hand control for all switch positions and then check to ensure the power is making it to the bulb sockets. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Check the bills to make sure they are correct On Apr 3, 2012 1:21 PM, Ty Knighthawk 700S ty.lasc...@gmail.com wrote: I own a 1984 Knighthawk 700 S I am having trouble with the turn signals and it is a weird situation, i havent found one like it. The front signal lights are on as normal acting as the marker lights and rears are 2 wires so they are off like normal. When i flip the switch to the right, the front right marker goes off and only the rear will sometimes flash. when i flip the switch to the left the fron right light flashes and the rear does nothing. I can hear the relay clicking and we tried some tests on it and it seams ok. I looked at the wiring diagram and the next possible thing could be the turn signal cancel unit??? I am not sure what i should do yet hoping someone has had a similar problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird
Now we are talking! On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Jason King joking1...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Allen, I want you to get back here and get the turn signals working on a 1982 Yamaha Maxim XJ650 I have. The bikes only done 6k miles and runs great. The only remaining issue is the turn signals. There is no power to them. I've read your thread but it's still a mystery to me. So, what time can I expect you? Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: I think he meant bulbs. Do you have any LED bulbs installed? This should be pretty easy to troubleshoot, start with making sure you don't have any resistance on the grounds which are probably green wires, though I couldn't find a wiring diagram online. make sure your getting power from the left hand control for all switch positions and then check to ensure the power is making it to the bulb sockets. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Check the bills to make sure they are correct On Apr 3, 2012 1:21 PM, Ty Knighthawk 700S ty.lasc...@gmail.com wrote: I own a 1984 Knighthawk 700 S I am having trouble with the turn signals and it is a weird situation, i havent found one like it. The front signal lights are on as normal acting as the marker lights and rears are 2 wires so they are off like normal. When i flip the switch to the right, the front right marker goes off and only the rear will sometimes flash. when i flip the switch to the left the fron right light flashes and the rear does nothing. I can hear the relay clicking and we tried some tests on it and it seams ok. I looked at the wiring diagram and the next possible thing could be the turn signal cancel unit??? I am not sure what i should do yet hoping someone has had a similar problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird
Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Allen, I want you to get back here and get the turn signals working on a 1982 Yamaha Maxim XJ650 I have. The bikes only done 6k miles and runs great. The only remaining issue is the turn signals. There is no power to them. I've read your thread but it's still a mystery to me. So, what time can I expect you? Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: I think he meant bulbs. Do you have any LED bulbs installed? This should be pretty easy to troubleshoot, start with making sure you don't have any resistance on the grounds which are probably green wires, though I couldn't find a wiring diagram online. make sure your getting power from the left hand control for all switch positions and then check to ensure the power is making it to the bulb sockets. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Check the bills to make sure they are correct On Apr 3, 2012 1:21 PM, Ty Knighthawk 700S ty.lasc...@gmail.com wrote: I own a 1984 Knighthawk 700 S I am having trouble with the turn signals and it is a weird situation, i havent found one like it. The front signal lights are on as normal acting as the marker lights and rears are 2 wires so they are off like normal. When i flip the switch to the right, the front right marker goes off and only the rear will sometimes flash. when i flip the switch to the left the fron right light flashes and the rear does nothing. I can hear the relay clicking and we tried some tests on it and it seams ok. I looked at the wiring diagram and the next possible thing could be the turn signal cancel unit??? I am not sure what i should do yet hoping someone has had a similar problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird
Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Jason King joking1...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Allen, I want you to get back here and get the turn signals working on a 1982 Yamaha Maxim XJ650 I have. The bikes only done 6k miles and runs great. The only remaining issue is the turn signals. There is no power to them. I've read your thread but it's still a mystery to me. So, what time can I expect you? Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: I think he meant bulbs. Do you have any LED bulbs installed? This should be pretty easy to troubleshoot, start with making sure you don't have any resistance on the grounds which are probably green wires, though I couldn't find a wiring diagram online. make sure your getting power from the left hand control for all switch positions and then check to ensure the power is making it to the bulb sockets. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Check the bills to make sure they are correct On Apr 3, 2012 1:21 PM, Ty Knighthawk 700S ty.lasc...@gmail.com wrote: I own a 1984 Knighthawk 700 S I am having trouble with the turn signals and it is a weird situation, i havent found one like it. The front signal lights are on as normal acting as the marker lights and rears are 2 wires so they are off like normal. When i flip the switch to the right, the front right marker goes off and only the rear will sometimes flash. when i flip the switch to the left the fron right light flashes and the rear does nothing. I can hear the relay clicking and we tried some tests on it and it seams ok. I looked at the wiring diagram and the next possible thing could be the turn signal cancel unit??? I am not sure what i should do yet hoping someone has had a similar problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird
Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Allen, I want you to get back here and get the turn signals working on a 1982 Yamaha Maxim XJ650 I have. The bikes only done 6k miles and runs great. The only remaining issue is the turn signals. There is no power to them. I've read your thread but it's still a mystery to me. So, what time can I expect you? Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: I think he meant bulbs. Do you have any LED bulbs installed? This should be pretty easy to troubleshoot, start with making sure you don't have any resistance on the grounds which are probably green wires, though I couldn't find a wiring diagram online. make sure your getting power from the left hand control for all switch positions and then check to ensure the power is making it to the bulb sockets. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.comwrote: Check the bills to make sure they are correct On Apr 3, 2012 1:21 PM, Ty Knighthawk 700S ty.lasc...@gmail.com wrote: I own a 1984 Knighthawk 700 S I am having trouble with the turn signals and it is a weird situation, i havent found one like it. The front signal lights are on as normal acting as the marker lights and rears are 2 wires so they are off like normal. When i flip the switch to the right, the front right marker goes off and only the rear will sometimes flash. when i flip the switch to the left the fron right light flashes and the rear does nothing. I can hear the relay clicking and we tried some tests on it and it seams ok. I looked at the wiring diagram and the next possible thing could be the turn signal cancel unit??? I am not sure what i should do yet hoping someone has had a similar problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email
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Poor Ty, his thread was hijacked and now everybody is going to Graham's house to fix blinkers :) -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Allen, I want you to get back here and get the turn signals working on a 1982 Yamaha Maxim XJ650 I have. The bikes only done 6k miles and runs great. The only remaining issue is the turn signals. There is no power to them. I've read your thread but it's still a mystery to me. So, what time can I expect you? Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: I think he meant bulbs. Do you have any LED bulbs installed? This should be pretty easy to troubleshoot, start with making sure you don't have any resistance on the grounds which are probably green wires, though I couldn't find a wiring diagram online. make sure your getting power from the left hand control for all switch positions and then check to ensure the power is making it to the bulb sockets. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.comwrote: Check the bills to make sure they are correct On Apr 3, 2012 1:21 PM, Ty Knighthawk 700S ty.lasc...@gmail.com wrote: I own a 1984 Knighthawk 700 S I am having trouble with the turn signals and it is a weird situation, i havent found one like it. The front signal lights are on as normal acting as the marker lights and rears are 2 wires so they are off like normal. When i flip the switch to the right, the front right marker goes off and only the rear will sometimes flash. when i flip the switch to the left the fron right light flashes and the rear does nothing. I can hear the relay clicking and we tried some tests on it and it seams ok. I looked at the wiring diagram and the next possible thing could be the turn signal cancel unit??? I am not sure what i should do yet hoping someone
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird
Sorry Ty. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:27:14 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Poor Ty, his thread was hijacked and now everybody is going to Graham's house to fix blinkers :) -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Allen, I want you to get back here and get the turn signals working on a 1982 Yamaha Maxim XJ650 I have. The bikes only done 6k miles and runs great. The only remaining issue is the turn signals. There is no power to them. I've read your thread but it's still a mystery to me. So, what time can I expect you? Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: I think he meant bulbs. Do you have any LED bulbs installed? This should be pretty easy to troubleshoot, start with making sure you don't have any resistance on the grounds which are probably green wires, though I couldn't find a wiring diagram online. make sure your getting power from the left hand control for all switch positions and then check to ensure the power is making it to the bulb sockets. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.comwrote: Check the bills to make sure they are correct On Apr 3, 2012 1:21 PM, Ty Knighthawk 700S ty.lasc...@gmail.com wrote: I own a 1984 Knighthawk 700 S I am having trouble with the turn signals and it is a weird situation, i havent found one like it. The front signal lights are on as normal acting as the marker lights and rears are 2 wires so they are off like normal. When i flip the switch to the right, the front right marker goes off and only the rear will sometimes flash. when i flip
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird
At least someone's blinkers will be fixed - and I'll provide lunch and rides on On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Sorry Ty. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:27:14 -0500 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Poor Ty, his thread was hijacked and now everybody is going to Graham's house to fix blinkers :) -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Jason King joking1...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Jason King joking1...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Allen, I want you to get back here and get the turn signals working on a 1982 Yamaha Maxim XJ650 I have. The bikes only done 6k miles and runs great. The only remaining issue is the turn signals. There is no power to them. I've read your thread but it's still a mystery to me. So, what time can I expect you? Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: I think he meant bulbs. Do you have any LED bulbs installed? This should be pretty easy to troubleshoot, start with making sure you don't have any resistance on the grounds which are probably green wires, though I couldn't find a wiring diagram online. make sure your getting power from the left hand control for all switch positions and then check to ensure the power is making it to the bulb sockets. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Check the bills to make sure they are correct On Apr 3, 2012 1:21 PM, Ty Knighthawk 700S ty.lasc...@gmail.com wrote: I own a 1984 Knighthawk 700 S I am having trouble with the turn signals and it is a weird situation, i havent found one like it. The front signal lights are on as normal acting as the marker lights and rears are 2 wires so they are off like normal. When i flip the switch to the right, the front right marker goes off and only the rear will sometimes flash. when i flip the switch to the left the fron right light
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I think Ty should arrange to drag his bike over to your place in time for lunch and the blinker fixing party. -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.comwrote: At least someone's blinkers will be fixed - and I'll provide lunch and rides on On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Sorry Ty. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:27:14 -0500 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Poor Ty, his thread was hijacked and now everybody is going to Graham's house to fix blinkers :) -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Allen, I want you to get back here and get the turn signals working on a 1982 Yamaha Maxim XJ650 I have. The bikes only done 6k miles and runs great. The only remaining issue is the turn signals. There is no power to them. I've read your thread but it's still a mystery to me. So, what time can I expect you? Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: I think he meant bulbs. Do you have any LED bulbs installed? This should be pretty easy to troubleshoot, start with making sure you don't have any resistance on the grounds which are probably green wires, though I couldn't find a wiring diagram online. make sure your getting power from the left hand control for all switch positions and then check to ensure the power is making it to the bulb sockets. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.comwrote: Check the bills to make sure they are correct On Apr 3, 2012 1:21 PM, Ty Knighthawk 700S ty.lasc...@gmail.com wrote: I
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Graham or Al where do you/graham live? On Apr 3, 2012 10:38 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote: I think Ty should arrange to drag his bike over to your place in time for lunch and the blinker fixing party. -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.comwrote: At least someone's blinkers will be fixed - and I'll provide lunch and rides on On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Sorry Ty. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:27:14 -0500 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Poor Ty, his thread was hijacked and now everybody is going to Graham's house to fix blinkers :) -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: ** Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Jason King joking1...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- *From: * Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 -0400 *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Allen, I want you to get back here and get the turn signals working on a 1982 Yamaha Maxim XJ650 I have. The bikes only done 6k miles and runs great. The only remaining issue is the turn signals. There is no power to them. I've read your thread but it's still a mystery to me. So, what time can I expect you? Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: I think he meant bulbs. Do you have any LED bulbs installed? This should be pretty easy to troubleshoot, start with making sure you don't have any resistance on the grounds which are probably green wires, though I couldn't find a wiring diagram online. make sure your getting power from the left hand control for all switch positions and then check to ensure the power is making it to the bulb sockets. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.comwrote: Check
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Lewisburg PA 17837 (Graham) On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:47 PM, Jason King wrote: Graham or Al where do you/graham live? On Apr 3, 2012 10:38 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote: I think Ty should arrange to drag his bike over to your place in time for lunch and the blinker fixing party. -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: At least someone's blinkers will be fixed - and I'll provide lunch and rides on On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Sorry Ty. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:27:14 -0500 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Poor Ty, his thread was hijacked and now everybody is going to Graham's house to fix blinkers :) -Kyle On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday is good for me On Apr 3, 2012 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Now we have a destination. Since sunday is easter I guess it will have to be Saturday. It is a long ride out to Graham's house we'll have to leave early. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Jason King joking1...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 21:38:18 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Why yes I do! On Apr 3, 2012 8:48 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, do you have off this weekend? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Jason King joking1...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 20:45:32 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Second that javier On Apr 3, 2012 8:39 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Road trip! road trip! road On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves. On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope that helps. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem! On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Lol, do you have a wiring diagram? I'll see if I can dig one up off the internet. I'd actually love to come up again and hang out Sent via BlackBerry by ATT From: Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:34:42 -0400 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird Allen, I want you to get back here and get the turn signals working on a 1982 Yamaha Maxim XJ650 I have. The bikes only done 6k miles and runs great. The only remaining issue is the turn signals. There is no power to them. I've read your thread but it's still a mystery to me. So, what time can I expect you? Graham On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: I think he meant bulbs. Do you have any LED bulbs installed? This should be pretty easy to troubleshoot, start with making sure you don't have any resistance on the grounds which are probably green wires, though I couldn't find a wiring diagram online. make sure your getting power from the left hand control for all switch positions and then check to ensure the power is making it to the bulb sockets. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jason King joking1...@gmail.com wrote: Check the bills to make sure they are correct On Apr 3, 2012 1:21 PM, Ty Knighthawk 700S ty.lasc...@gmail.com wrote: I own a 1984 Knighthawk 700 S
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Been a crappy week so if this got solved sorry for the redundancy if not Your problem if you didn't have any existing ones is twofold. First. The LED's don't draw enough currant to ground out the flasher and make it flash. Your best option is to use one of these; http://www.customled.com/products/flasher_relay/flasher_relay.htmhttp://www.customled.com/products/flasher_relay/flasher_relay.htm Your other option is to add a resistor. This is now a poor Band-Aid solution. I say now because cheap relays for fully LED systems are fairly new. Second, You can't combine the running lights and the turn signals. The running lights are a common circuit for all 4 lights. So if it had flashed it would have looked like you had hazard flashers on, and may have hurt something. My bike is 12 years older than yours so I'm not exactly sure what it could hurt but your options are nothing or bad there is no good. As for why you get all off for one direction and all on for the other I'm not sure. But I am 80% sure once you fix the wire splice mistake it will also fix whatever you did wrong there. I'm going to guess that you swapped a running light for a ground or??? Now to see how much Bacardi it will take to erase this workweek. (today is my friday) At 06:34 PM 12/15/2011, you wrote: i have a '95 nighthawk 750 and recently tried to replace my cracked turn signals with aftermarket LED lights. the rear went fine, the front are supposed to run and signal so there are two hot leads for the factory dual filament bulb but so i tried splicing them together and it worked for the right but after i hooked up the fourth and final they all stopped. they actually all turn off when signaling one direction and on in the other, but no blinking. is this a relay issue? what do i do? MATT - NY Pat Patterson Abbotsford, BC, Canada 2001 PT Cruiser 83 450 Honda Nighthawk 78 F350460/C6 on propane 71 Bronco 302/C4/D20 D44/9 Some people try to turn back their odometers. Not me, I want people to know why I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved. If you can't take the heat, don't tickle the dragon. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
[Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals
i have a '95 nighthawk 750 and recently tried to replace my cracked turn signals with aftermarket LED lights. the rear went fine, the front are supposed to run and signal so there are two hot leads for the factory dual filament bulb but so i tried splicing them together and it worked for the right but after i hooked up the fourth and final they all stopped. they actually all turn off when signaling one direction and on in the other, but no blinking. is this a relay issue? what do i do? MATT - NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
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It sounds like you're shorting to ground via the splices that you made. I'd undo that and try to find dual element LED replacement bulbs. Also, other users have reported having to use different flashers than stock since the LEDs draw less current than incandescent bulbs. - JO On Dec 15, 2011, at 18:34 PM, matt wrote: i have a '95 nighthawk 750 and recently tried to replace my cracked turn signals with aftermarket LED lights. the rear went fine, the front are supposed to run and signal so there are two hot leads for the factory dual filament bulb but so i tried splicing them together and it worked for the right but after i hooked up the fourth and final they all stopped. they actually all turn off when signaling one direction and on in the other, but no blinking. is this a relay issue? what do i do? MATT - NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
[Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals
My cb550sc turn signals went out the other day. I need a new solenoid. I don't have much money but where can I get on. Junk yards don't have any. I also need a front cover to the starter cuz mine is leading out. And it would help me start my bike so I don't have to push start no more. Some one please help me. Its my ride to get around to get to work and back. To go to the store for groceries. I don't want to get fired -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
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Travis, I bought my flasher from NAPA for $2.99. The item is not real particular, and many flashers will work. Go there and bring the old one to get a similar size. Robert On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Travis Hall travhal...@gmail.com wrote: My cb550sc turn signals went out the other day. I need a new solenoid. I don't have much money but where can I get on. Junk yards don't have any. I also need a front cover to the starter cuz mine is leading out. And it would help me start my bike so I don't have to push start no more. Some one please help me. Its my ride to get around to get to work and back. To go to the store for groceries. I don't want to get fired -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn Signals and Horn
Sean, if you are responding to my previous post about having one horn (half of a two-horn set that seems to be standard on Hondas) then I am pretty sure it will. These horn-units seem to be pretty standard across Honda models and model years. Todd On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Sean Snell snel...@gmail.com wrote: Will your horn fit my '83 CB550SC? If so I'll take it off your hands. Let me know, Sean On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Todd Mercer todd.a.mer...@gmail.comwrote: I have one of the two horns from an '83 Nighthawk 650 available (tested as stated above, and it sqwaks. The other one didn't.) $15 including shipping. Let me know if interested. Todd On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Sean Snell snel...@gmail.com wrote: I'd also like to chime in that on my '83 CB550 I had weird turn signal problems similar to the ones your experiencing and the fix was replacing the relay. Now I don't know about compatibility with your bike, but I ended up getting a relay from eBay for an '06 Kawasaki that was a direct replacement. I ended up paying like $15-$20ish for it versus the ~$80 the Honda dealership wanted (And on top of that, the part isn't even available anymore which is stupid because electronically speaking these things are about as simple as you can get). And I agree, you can test pretty much all of the possible causes of your issues with a 12v batter and/or a volt meter. Sean On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote: Well, one at a time... 1. The horns. They go bad after a while. Easy way to test is to remove them from the bike, take a known good 12V battery, and jump it directly to the leads on the horn. It honks or it don't. If they're bad, you can buy new Motorcycle horns. $80 from the dealer, or $105 for cheap looking aftermarket from JC Whitney. No thank you! I bought some standard 3.5 horns from the autoparts store. Some primer, and a can of black paint. Several light coats and a spot of wet sanding and it came out looking pretty nice. If you're really careful it's also completely possible to pry the chrome plastic trim from the old horns and snap it onto the new ones. 2. Brake light. Tail lights should always be on, by design. The bulb is actually a two filament bulb. One one for tail light, both on for braking. That way it gets brighter. Make sure that both filaments are good and that one isn't blown. The fix could be as simple as a new bulb. If that's not it, check the switches. There's one on the handle bars, and one down behind the foot brake. They should be normally open switches. Infinite resistance when off, 0 resistance when applied. Make sure no wires are cut, etc. 3,4,5. Turn signals. I'm going to put these all in one category because I think there might be a common problem. The fronts are 3 wire. They are lit steadily when the bike is on to make it more visible. They only blink on/off when the turn signal The Dark Green wire is ground, The solid (orange/blue) is the blinker wire, and the white-striped wire is the solid running light wire. The rears are just 2wire. They're off usually, I guess you don't need to be as visible from the rear... they only illuminate when you're blinking. Easy enough to test. Remove one and put the two wires to a 12V battery. It lights or it doesn't. Same with the Fronts, apply power across the striped wire and the dark green and you should see light, then test with solid color and dark green, again you should see light. I'll assume your turn signal switch is working since it does turn the lights off, but we can test that too. I'm going to make a prediction though, and start pointing fingers are the turn signal relay, behind the left side cover on your bike. I never found a way to test mine, I just figured it was bad by process of elimination. But it was bad, I picked up a replacement from a honda shop and all lights started blinking. I'm not guaranteeing that your relay is bad though, don't go out and buy one until testing the other parts. I have a scanned in jpg of the wiring diagram for the 650 on my site. Word of warning, it's from the Clymer manual and some of the colors are wrong, especially around the starter button and the gear indicator switch, but it's better than nothing... http://munz.kicks-ass.net/nighthawk/?attachment_id=105 Good luck ;) -Kyle On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:05 AM, AustinPothast austinpoth...@yahoo.com wrote: 1985 Nighthawk 650 I know I'm not the first to post this problem but I need some easy to digest suggestions as I am a beginner with electrical. Here are my problems: 1. Horn does not work 2. Brake light does not work when braking (although the tail light is always on) 3. Rear turn signals do not come on at all. 4. Front turn signals come on 5. When I try to use the right turn signal that signal just turns off; same with the left. Again this is front only because the rears do not
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn Signals and Horn
The horns being on the front of the bike it may also be full of road grime, but you're right, checking for clean contacts and grounds is also a good idea. On Friday, August 13, 2010, stanley/ Randolph tinkrm...@yahoo.com wrote: It might be a good idea to check the ground before fooling with that little screw with the stuff that keeps if from moving without your approval. Most likely it's a drop in amperage and maybe voltage as well, from a poor contact. But then, it could be just ooolllddd age... Stanley From: Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, August 13, 2010 2:04:52 PM Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Turn Signals and Horn Drop in voltage could be it. There's also a screw on the back of the horn, that probably has think paint or something else sticky to keep you from turning it. That's the tuning screw for the horns, At different voltages the plate is going to vibrate at different frequencies and that screw may need a quarter twist in one direction or the other. They set it at the factory and poor the goop on it so it doesn't turn again, but it's your horn, you can turn that screw if you want to ;) -Kyle On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Drop in voltage? I just guessing. Javier. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:40 PM, aardvark aardvarkso...@gmail.com wrote: I don't have any advice, but I do have a related question: I discovered something fun about my horn recently - it is barely audible at low rpm's. I quickly learned that when I was nearly rear-ending a car that, for some unexplained reason, felt they should stay put sitting at a green light. The horn works fine at cruising speed, but can barely be heard at low rpm/idle. Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- -Kyle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn Signals and Horn
I have one of the two horns from an '83 Nighthawk 650 available (tested as stated above, and it sqwaks. The other one didn't.) $15 including shipping. Let me know if interested. Todd On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Sean Snell snel...@gmail.com wrote: I'd also like to chime in that on my '83 CB550 I had weird turn signal problems similar to the ones your experiencing and the fix was replacing the relay. Now I don't know about compatibility with your bike, but I ended up getting a relay from eBay for an '06 Kawasaki that was a direct replacement. I ended up paying like $15-$20ish for it versus the ~$80 the Honda dealership wanted (And on top of that, the part isn't even available anymore which is stupid because electronically speaking these things are about as simple as you can get). And I agree, you can test pretty much all of the possible causes of your issues with a 12v batter and/or a volt meter. Sean On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote: Well, one at a time... 1. The horns. They go bad after a while. Easy way to test is to remove them from the bike, take a known good 12V battery, and jump it directly to the leads on the horn. It honks or it don't. If they're bad, you can buy new Motorcycle horns. $80 from the dealer, or $105 for cheap looking aftermarket from JC Whitney. No thank you! I bought some standard 3.5 horns from the autoparts store. Some primer, and a can of black paint. Several light coats and a spot of wet sanding and it came out looking pretty nice. If you're really careful it's also completely possible to pry the chrome plastic trim from the old horns and snap it onto the new ones. 2. Brake light. Tail lights should always be on, by design. The bulb is actually a two filament bulb. One one for tail light, both on for braking. That way it gets brighter. Make sure that both filaments are good and that one isn't blown. The fix could be as simple as a new bulb. If that's not it, check the switches. There's one on the handle bars, and one down behind the foot brake. They should be normally open switches. Infinite resistance when off, 0 resistance when applied. Make sure no wires are cut, etc. 3,4,5. Turn signals. I'm going to put these all in one category because I think there might be a common problem. The fronts are 3 wire. They are lit steadily when the bike is on to make it more visible. They only blink on/off when the turn signal The Dark Green wire is ground, The solid (orange/blue) is the blinker wire, and the white-striped wire is the solid running light wire. The rears are just 2wire. They're off usually, I guess you don't need to be as visible from the rear... they only illuminate when you're blinking. Easy enough to test. Remove one and put the two wires to a 12V battery. It lights or it doesn't. Same with the Fronts, apply power across the striped wire and the dark green and you should see light, then test with solid color and dark green, again you should see light. I'll assume your turn signal switch is working since it does turn the lights off, but we can test that too. I'm going to make a prediction though, and start pointing fingers are the turn signal relay, behind the left side cover on your bike. I never found a way to test mine, I just figured it was bad by process of elimination. But it was bad, I picked up a replacement from a honda shop and all lights started blinking. I'm not guaranteeing that your relay is bad though, don't go out and buy one until testing the other parts. I have a scanned in jpg of the wiring diagram for the 650 on my site. Word of warning, it's from the Clymer manual and some of the colors are wrong, especially around the starter button and the gear indicator switch, but it's better than nothing... http://munz.kicks-ass.net/nighthawk/?attachment_id=105 Good luck ;) -Kyle On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:05 AM, AustinPothast austinpoth...@yahoo.comwrote: 1985 Nighthawk 650 I know I'm not the first to post this problem but I need some easy to digest suggestions as I am a beginner with electrical. Here are my problems: 1. Horn does not work 2. Brake light does not work when braking (although the tail light is always on) 3. Rear turn signals do not come on at all. 4. Front turn signals come on 5. When I try to use the right turn signal that signal just turns off; same with the left. Again this is front only because the rears do not come on. I have replaced all '15' fuses on the front of the bike above the horn and inspected all wires for exposure. Please help me with step by step of what you would do? Thanks! Austin 734 218 1653 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn Signals and Horn
Will your horn fit my '83 CB550SC? If so I'll take it off your hands. Let me know, Sean On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Todd Mercer todd.a.mer...@gmail.comwrote: I have one of the two horns from an '83 Nighthawk 650 available (tested as stated above, and it sqwaks. The other one didn't.) $15 including shipping. Let me know if interested. Todd On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Sean Snell snel...@gmail.com wrote: I'd also like to chime in that on my '83 CB550 I had weird turn signal problems similar to the ones your experiencing and the fix was replacing the relay. Now I don't know about compatibility with your bike, but I ended up getting a relay from eBay for an '06 Kawasaki that was a direct replacement. I ended up paying like $15-$20ish for it versus the ~$80 the Honda dealership wanted (And on top of that, the part isn't even available anymore which is stupid because electronically speaking these things are about as simple as you can get). And I agree, you can test pretty much all of the possible causes of your issues with a 12v batter and/or a volt meter. Sean On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote: Well, one at a time... 1. The horns. They go bad after a while. Easy way to test is to remove them from the bike, take a known good 12V battery, and jump it directly to the leads on the horn. It honks or it don't. If they're bad, you can buy new Motorcycle horns. $80 from the dealer, or $105 for cheap looking aftermarket from JC Whitney. No thank you! I bought some standard 3.5 horns from the autoparts store. Some primer, and a can of black paint. Several light coats and a spot of wet sanding and it came out looking pretty nice. If you're really careful it's also completely possible to pry the chrome plastic trim from the old horns and snap it onto the new ones. 2. Brake light. Tail lights should always be on, by design. The bulb is actually a two filament bulb. One one for tail light, both on for braking. That way it gets brighter. Make sure that both filaments are good and that one isn't blown. The fix could be as simple as a new bulb. If that's not it, check the switches. There's one on the handle bars, and one down behind the foot brake. They should be normally open switches. Infinite resistance when off, 0 resistance when applied. Make sure no wires are cut, etc. 3,4,5. Turn signals. I'm going to put these all in one category because I think there might be a common problem. The fronts are 3 wire. They are lit steadily when the bike is on to make it more visible. They only blink on/off when the turn signal The Dark Green wire is ground, The solid (orange/blue) is the blinker wire, and the white-striped wire is the solid running light wire. The rears are just 2wire. They're off usually, I guess you don't need to be as visible from the rear... they only illuminate when you're blinking. Easy enough to test. Remove one and put the two wires to a 12V battery. It lights or it doesn't. Same with the Fronts, apply power across the striped wire and the dark green and you should see light, then test with solid color and dark green, again you should see light. I'll assume your turn signal switch is working since it does turn the lights off, but we can test that too. I'm going to make a prediction though, and start pointing fingers are the turn signal relay, behind the left side cover on your bike. I never found a way to test mine, I just figured it was bad by process of elimination. But it was bad, I picked up a replacement from a honda shop and all lights started blinking. I'm not guaranteeing that your relay is bad though, don't go out and buy one until testing the other parts. I have a scanned in jpg of the wiring diagram for the 650 on my site. Word of warning, it's from the Clymer manual and some of the colors are wrong, especially around the starter button and the gear indicator switch, but it's better than nothing... http://munz.kicks-ass.net/nighthawk/?attachment_id=105 Good luck ;) -Kyle On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:05 AM, AustinPothast austinpoth...@yahoo.com wrote: 1985 Nighthawk 650 I know I'm not the first to post this problem but I need some easy to digest suggestions as I am a beginner with electrical. Here are my problems: 1. Horn does not work 2. Brake light does not work when braking (although the tail light is always on) 3. Rear turn signals do not come on at all. 4. Front turn signals come on 5. When I try to use the right turn signal that signal just turns off; same with the left. Again this is front only because the rears do not come on. I have replaced all '15' fuses on the front of the bike above the horn and inspected all wires for exposure. Please help me with step by step of what you would do? Thanks! Austin 734 218 1653 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn Signals and Horn
Well, one at a time... 1. The horns. They go bad after a while. Easy way to test is to remove them from the bike, take a known good 12V battery, and jump it directly to the leads on the horn. It honks or it don't. If they're bad, you can buy new Motorcycle horns. $80 from the dealer, or $105 for cheap looking aftermarket from JC Whitney. No thank you! I bought some standard 3.5 horns from the autoparts store. Some primer, and a can of black paint. Several light coats and a spot of wet sanding and it came out looking pretty nice. If you're really careful it's also completely possible to pry the chrome plastic trim from the old horns and snap it onto the new ones. 2. Brake light. Tail lights should always be on, by design. The bulb is actually a two filament bulb. One one for tail light, both on for braking. That way it gets brighter. Make sure that both filaments are good and that one isn't blown. The fix could be as simple as a new bulb. If that's not it, check the switches. There's one on the handle bars, and one down behind the foot brake. They should be normally open switches. Infinite resistance when off, 0 resistance when applied. Make sure no wires are cut, etc. 3,4,5. Turn signals. I'm going to put these all in one category because I think there might be a common problem. The fronts are 3 wire. They are lit steadily when the bike is on to make it more visible. They only blink on/off when the turn signal The Dark Green wire is ground, The solid (orange/blue) is the blinker wire, and the white-striped wire is the solid running light wire. The rears are just 2wire. They're off usually, I guess you don't need to be as visible from the rear... they only illuminate when you're blinking. Easy enough to test. Remove one and put the two wires to a 12V battery. It lights or it doesn't. Same with the Fronts, apply power across the striped wire and the dark green and you should see light, then test with solid color and dark green, again you should see light. I'll assume your turn signal switch is working since it does turn the lights off, but we can test that too. I'm going to make a prediction though, and start pointing fingers are the turn signal relay, behind the left side cover on your bike. I never found a way to test mine, I just figured it was bad by process of elimination. But it was bad, I picked up a replacement from a honda shop and all lights started blinking. I'm not guaranteeing that your relay is bad though, don't go out and buy one until testing the other parts. I have a scanned in jpg of the wiring diagram for the 650 on my site. Word of warning, it's from the Clymer manual and some of the colors are wrong, especially around the starter button and the gear indicator switch, but it's better than nothing... http://munz.kicks-ass.net/nighthawk/?attachment_id=105 Good luck ;) -Kyle On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:05 AM, AustinPothast austinpoth...@yahoo.comwrote: 1985 Nighthawk 650 I know I'm not the first to post this problem but I need some easy to digest suggestions as I am a beginner with electrical. Here are my problems: 1. Horn does not work 2. Brake light does not work when braking (although the tail light is always on) 3. Rear turn signals do not come on at all. 4. Front turn signals come on 5. When I try to use the right turn signal that signal just turns off; same with the left. Again this is front only because the rears do not come on. I have replaced all '15' fuses on the front of the bike above the horn and inspected all wires for exposure. Please help me with step by step of what you would do? Thanks! Austin 734 218 1653 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnighthawk_lovers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn Signals and Horn
I'd also like to chime in that on my '83 CB550 I had weird turn signal problems similar to the ones your experiencing and the fix was replacing the relay. Now I don't know about compatibility with your bike, but I ended up getting a relay from eBay for an '06 Kawasaki that was a direct replacement. I ended up paying like $15-$20ish for it versus the ~$80 the Honda dealership wanted (And on top of that, the part isn't even available anymore which is stupid because electronically speaking these things are about as simple as you can get). And I agree, you can test pretty much all of the possible causes of your issues with a 12v batter and/or a volt meter. Sean On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote: Well, one at a time... 1. The horns. They go bad after a while. Easy way to test is to remove them from the bike, take a known good 12V battery, and jump it directly to the leads on the horn. It honks or it don't. If they're bad, you can buy new Motorcycle horns. $80 from the dealer, or $105 for cheap looking aftermarket from JC Whitney. No thank you! I bought some standard 3.5 horns from the autoparts store. Some primer, and a can of black paint. Several light coats and a spot of wet sanding and it came out looking pretty nice. If you're really careful it's also completely possible to pry the chrome plastic trim from the old horns and snap it onto the new ones. 2. Brake light. Tail lights should always be on, by design. The bulb is actually a two filament bulb. One one for tail light, both on for braking. That way it gets brighter. Make sure that both filaments are good and that one isn't blown. The fix could be as simple as a new bulb. If that's not it, check the switches. There's one on the handle bars, and one down behind the foot brake. They should be normally open switches. Infinite resistance when off, 0 resistance when applied. Make sure no wires are cut, etc. 3,4,5. Turn signals. I'm going to put these all in one category because I think there might be a common problem. The fronts are 3 wire. They are lit steadily when the bike is on to make it more visible. They only blink on/off when the turn signal The Dark Green wire is ground, The solid (orange/blue) is the blinker wire, and the white-striped wire is the solid running light wire. The rears are just 2wire. They're off usually, I guess you don't need to be as visible from the rear... they only illuminate when you're blinking. Easy enough to test. Remove one and put the two wires to a 12V battery. It lights or it doesn't. Same with the Fronts, apply power across the striped wire and the dark green and you should see light, then test with solid color and dark green, again you should see light. I'll assume your turn signal switch is working since it does turn the lights off, but we can test that too. I'm going to make a prediction though, and start pointing fingers are the turn signal relay, behind the left side cover on your bike. I never found a way to test mine, I just figured it was bad by process of elimination. But it was bad, I picked up a replacement from a honda shop and all lights started blinking. I'm not guaranteeing that your relay is bad though, don't go out and buy one until testing the other parts. I have a scanned in jpg of the wiring diagram for the 650 on my site. Word of warning, it's from the Clymer manual and some of the colors are wrong, especially around the starter button and the gear indicator switch, but it's better than nothing... http://munz.kicks-ass.net/nighthawk/?attachment_id=105 Good luck ;) -Kyle On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:05 AM, AustinPothast austinpoth...@yahoo.comwrote: 1985 Nighthawk 650 I know I'm not the first to post this problem but I need some easy to digest suggestions as I am a beginner with electrical. Here are my problems: 1. Horn does not work 2. Brake light does not work when braking (although the tail light is always on) 3. Rear turn signals do not come on at all. 4. Front turn signals come on 5. When I try to use the right turn signal that signal just turns off; same with the left. Again this is front only because the rears do not come on. I have replaced all '15' fuses on the front of the bike above the horn and inspected all wires for exposure. Please help me with step by step of what you would do? Thanks! Austin 734 218 1653 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnighthawk_lovers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send
[Nighthawk Lovers] Turn Signals and Horn
1985 Nighthawk 650 I know I'm not the first to post this problem but I need some easy to digest suggestions as I am a beginner with electrical. Here are my problems: 1. Horn does not work 2. Brake light does not work when braking (although the tail light is always on) 3. Rear turn signals do not come on at all. 4. Front turn signals come on 5. When I try to use the right turn signal that signal just turns off; same with the left. Again this is front only because the rears do not come on. I have replaced all '15' fuses on the front of the bike above the horn and inspected all wires for exposure. Please help me with step by step of what you would do? Thanks! Austin 734 218 1653 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working
This morning I went searching for a 'no load' flasher. I tried auto parts store and they had never heard of it. They did have electronic flashers so for $13 I bought one of them and tried it. The turn signals don't light up at all with that unit. I went to radio shack in search of a 555 timer circuit, again unheard of. One clerk did show me a unit about half the size of a postage stamp with tiny prongs coming out of it - about 6 or 8 of them but there was no way that could substitute as a flasher unit. So, is an electronic flasher the same as a no load flasher and if so, what does it mean that it didn't work? Graham On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Joey Kelley wrote: Thats where I was going with that as well- a No-Load flasher unit will continue to flash no matter what load is on the circuit. If I were you Graham - I'd swap the flasher unit for a no-load unit and see if that makes a difference. I think you can use a No-load on any circuit - so it wouldn't harm traditional bulbs either. -Joey On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, greenzer...@gmail.com greenzer...@gmail.com wrote: The main reason flashers units dont work is the bulbs dont draw enough amps (did u reace with a lower watt bulb or leds???) the test is fairly simple, hook up a large light (i used a sealed beam headlight) into the circuit... If this makes it flash u need to get a digital flasher unit (spicifily for led turnsignals)... -Original Message- Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:24:11 am To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com From: Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working Here's one I'm fed up with working on. I have two bikes that have nonworking right turn signals. They both do the same thing. So I'll describe one. (The other is a kz1000). It's a 1982/83 Suzuki GS1100L. I replaced the turn signals with new after markets. The front originls were running lights with three wires, the replacements are just two wire. So with the signals hooked up - and I'm sure I have the wires connected correctly on the front ones, leaving the running lights wires open (unconnected). The turn signals stay on when activated. The left ones turn on when I push the switch to the left, and same for the right. I have changed the flasher unit and the relay unit - no difference. A new battery and correct charging voltage makes no difference. It seems to me there's not enough voltage getting to the flasher unit to make it work. One wire out of the flasher unit reads over 12 v, the other - way under (it's a three prong unit). I have checked all grounds, added one, no difference. Any suggestions? Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- -Joey Kelley Need Computer Technical support? http://www.crossloop.com/JoeyKelleyComputerServices At your service - via remote control! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working
Graham, At the heart of a no-load flasher is a 555 timer circuit or similar - no one is suggesting that if you aren't familiar with a 555 timer that you go purchase one and attempt to use it. A 555 timer is a small integrated circuit, probably what you saw at Radio Shack. It would require additional circuitry and wiring to actually function as a no load flasher unit. A quick Google search resulted in this: http://www.customled.com/products/flasher_relay/flasher_relay.htm Not sure if you could find a similar unit elsewhere. I've found that if I go to larger auto parts stores its hit or miss if I find an employee that knows their stuff. However, if you go in with a part number, you should be able to get something. Anyone have a suggestion on a part number for a no-load flasher unit that is a drop in replacement? -Joey On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net wrote: This morning I went searching for a 'no load' flasher. I tried auto parts store and they had never heard of it. They did have electronic flashers so for $13 I bought one of them and tried it. The turn signals don't light up at all with that unit. I went to radio shack in search of a 555 timer circuit, again unheard of. One clerk did show me a unit about half the size of a postage stamp with tiny prongs coming out of it - about 6 or 8 of them but there was no way that could substitute as a flasher unit. So, is an electronic flasher the same as a no load flasher and if so, what does it mean that it didn't work? Graham On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Joey Kelley wrote: Thats where I was going with that as well- a No-Load flasher unit will continue to flash no matter what load is on the circuit. If I were you Graham - I'd swap the flasher unit for a no-load unit and see if that makes a difference. I think you can use a No-load on any circuit - so it wouldn't harm traditional bulbs either. -Joey On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, greenzer...@gmail.com greenzer...@gmail.com wrote: The main reason flashers units dont work is the bulbs dont draw enough amps (did u reace with a lower watt bulb or leds???) the test is fairly simple, hook up a large light (i used a sealed beam headlight) into the circuit... If this makes it flash u need to get a digital flasher unit (spicifily for led turnsignals)... -Original Message- Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:24:11 am To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com From: Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working Here's one I'm fed up with working on. I have two bikes that have nonworking right turn signals. They both do the same thing. So I'll describe one. (The other is a kz1000). It's a 1982/83 Suzuki GS1100L. I replaced the turn signals with new after markets. The front originls were running lights with three wires, the replacements are just two wire. So with the signals hooked up - and I'm sure I have the wires connected correctly on the front ones, leaving the running lights wires open (unconnected). The turn signals stay on when activated. The left ones turn on when I push the switch to the left, and same for the right. I have changed the flasher unit and the relay unit - no difference. A new battery and correct charging voltage makes no difference. It seems to me there's not enough voltage getting to the flasher unit to make it work. One wire out of the flasher unit reads over 12 v, the other - way under (it's a three prong unit). I have checked all grounds, added one, no difference. Any suggestions? Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- -Joey Kelley Need Computer Technical support? http://www.crossloop.com/JoeyKelleyComputerServices At your service - via remote control! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working
Thanks Joey, I also need to know something else. The GS1100 has two units in the turn signal system. One is the 3 prong flasher unit. I think it's called turn signal unit on Bike Bandit. The other is a turn signal relay. It's a bigger unit with more than three wires coming out of it. It goes to a harness under the tank. Do I need to replace both? Graham On Jun 14, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Joey Kelley wrote: Graham, At the heart of a no-load flasher is a 555 timer circuit or similar - no one is suggesting that if you aren't familiar with a 555 timer that you go purchase one and attempt to use it. A 555 timer is a small integrated circuit, probably what you saw at Radio Shack. It would require additional circuitry and wiring to actually function as a no load flasher unit. A quick Google search resulted in this: http://www.customled.com/products/flasher_relay/flasher_relay.htm Not sure if you could find a similar unit elsewhere. I've found that if I go to larger auto parts stores its hit or miss if I find an employee that knows their stuff. However, if you go in with a part number, you should be able to get something. Anyone have a suggestion on a part number for a no-load flasher unit that is a drop in replacement? -Joey On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net wrote: This morning I went searching for a 'no load' flasher. I tried auto parts store and they had never heard of it. They did have electronic flashers so for $13 I bought one of them and tried it. The turn signals don't light up at all with that unit. I went to radio shack in search of a 555 timer circuit, again unheard of. One clerk did show me a unit about half the size of a postage stamp with tiny prongs coming out of it - about 6 or 8 of them but there was no way that could substitute as a flasher unit. So, is an electronic flasher the same as a no load flasher and if so, what does it mean that it didn't work? Graham On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Joey Kelley wrote: Thats where I was going with that as well- a No-Load flasher unit will continue to flash no matter what load is on the circuit. If I were you Graham - I'd swap the flasher unit for a no-load unit and see if that makes a difference. I think you can use a No-load on any circuit - so it wouldn't harm traditional bulbs either. -Joey On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, greenzer...@gmail.com greenzer...@gmail.com wrote: The main reason flashers units dont work is the bulbs dont draw enough amps (did u reace with a lower watt bulb or leds???) the test is fairly simple, hook up a large light (i used a sealed beam headlight) into the circuit... If this makes it flash u need to get a digital flasher unit (spicifily for led turnsignals)... -Original Message- Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:24:11 am To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com From: Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working Here's one I'm fed up with working on. I have two bikes that have nonworking right turn signals. They both do the same thing. So I'll describe one. (The other is a kz1000). It's a 1982/83 Suzuki GS1100L. I replaced the turn signals with new after markets. The front originls were running lights with three wires, the replacements are just two wire. So with the signals hooked up - and I'm sure I have the wires connected correctly on the front ones, leaving the running lights wires open (unconnected). The turn signals stay on when activated. The left ones turn on when I push the switch to the left, and same for the right. I have changed the flasher unit and the relay unit - no difference. A new battery and correct charging voltage makes no difference. It seems to me there's not enough voltage getting to the flasher unit to make it work. One wire out of the flasher unit reads over 12 v, the other - way under (it's a three prong unit). I have checked all grounds, added one, no difference. Any suggestions? Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- -Joey Kelley Need Computer Technical support? http://www.crossloop.com/JoeyKelleyComputerServices At your service - via
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working
Graham, I'm not an electrician, nor do I play one on TV, however - I would guess that the flasher unit is what is sending the 'blink' signal to the lights, IE - you're on now, you're off now - the relay is probably just relaying that signal on to the lights themselves. This would be suggested if you have the option of four way hazard lights (ie emergency flashers) or simply want to take the load off of the flasher unit, to extend its life. You shouldn't need to replace the relay. I would try the flasher first, you have nothing to lose, since even if you do have to replace the relay, you'd have to replace the flasher anyway. -Joey On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net wrote: Thanks Joey, I also need to know something else. The GS1100 has two units in the turn signal system. One is the 3 prong flasher unit. I think it's called turn signal unit on Bike Bandit. The other is a turn signal relay. It's a bigger unit with more than three wires coming out of it. It goes to a harness under the tank. Do I need to replace both? Graham On Jun 14, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Joey Kelley wrote: Graham, At the heart of a no-load flasher is a 555 timer circuit or similar - no one is suggesting that if you aren't familiar with a 555 timer that you go purchase one and attempt to use it. A 555 timer is a small integrated circuit, probably what you saw at Radio Shack. It would require additional circuitry and wiring to actually function as a no load flasher unit. A quick Google search resulted in this: http://www.customled.com/products/flasher_relay/flasher_relay.htm Not sure if you could find a similar unit elsewhere. I've found that if I go to larger auto parts stores its hit or miss if I find an employee that knows their stuff. However, if you go in with a part number, you should be able to get something. Anyone have a suggestion on a part number for a no-load flasher unit that is a drop in replacement? -Joey On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net wrote: This morning I went searching for a 'no load' flasher. I tried auto parts store and they had never heard of it. They did have electronic flashers so for $13 I bought one of them and tried it. The turn signals don't light up at all with that unit. I went to radio shack in search of a 555 timer circuit, again unheard of. One clerk did show me a unit about half the size of a postage stamp with tiny prongs coming out of it - about 6 or 8 of them but there was no way that could substitute as a flasher unit. So, is an electronic flasher the same as a no load flasher and if so, what does it mean that it didn't work? Graham On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Joey Kelley wrote: Thats where I was going with that as well- a No-Load flasher unit will continue to flash no matter what load is on the circuit. If I were you Graham - I'd swap the flasher unit for a no-load unit and see if that makes a difference. I think you can use a No-load on any circuit - so it wouldn't harm traditional bulbs either. -Joey On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, greenzer...@gmail.com greenzer...@gmail.com wrote: The main reason flashers units dont work is the bulbs dont draw enough amps (did u reace with a lower watt bulb or leds???) the test is fairly simple, hook up a large light (i used a sealed beam headlight) into the circuit... If this makes it flash u need to get a digital flasher unit (spicifily for led turnsignals)... -Original Message- Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:24:11 am To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com From: Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working Here's one I'm fed up with working on. I have two bikes that have nonworking right turn signals. They both do the same thing. So I'll describe one. (The other is a kz1000). It's a 1982/83 Suzuki GS1100L. I replaced the turn signals with new after markets. The front originls were running lights with three wires, the replacements are just two wire. So with the signals hooked up - and I'm sure I have the wires connected correctly on the front ones, leaving the running lights wires open (unconnected). The turn signals stay on when activated. The left ones turn on when I push the switch to the left, and same for the right. I have changed the flasher unit and the relay unit - no difference. A new battery and correct charging voltage makes no difference. It seems to me there's not enough voltage getting to the flasher unit to make it work. One wire out of the flasher unit reads over 12 v, the other - way under (it's a three prong unit). I have checked all grounds, added one, no difference. Any suggestions? Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working
I'm waiting to hear of a drop in unit since I've already replaced both units with no difference, even if I have to buy one online. I just need to know what is the unit to buy. Thanks again Joey, Graham On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:13 PM, Joey Kelley wrote: Graham, I'm not an electrician, nor do I play one on TV, however - I would guess that the flasher unit is what is sending the 'blink' signal to the lights, IE - you're on now, you're off now - the relay is probably just relaying that signal on to the lights themselves. This would be suggested if you have the option of four way hazard lights (ie emergency flashers) or simply want to take the load off of the flasher unit, to extend its life. You shouldn't need to replace the relay. I would try the flasher first, you have nothing to lose, since even if you do have to replace the relay, you'd have to replace the flasher anyway. -Joey On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net wrote: Thanks Joey, I also need to know something else. The GS1100 has two units in the turn signal system. One is the 3 prong flasher unit. I think it's called turn signal unit on Bike Bandit. The other is a turn signal relay. It's a bigger unit with more than three wires coming out of it. It goes to a harness under the tank. Do I need to replace both? Graham On Jun 14, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Joey Kelley wrote: Graham, At the heart of a no-load flasher is a 555 timer circuit or similar - no one is suggesting that if you aren't familiar with a 555 timer that you go purchase one and attempt to use it. A 555 timer is a small integrated circuit, probably what you saw at Radio Shack. It would require additional circuitry and wiring to actually function as a no load flasher unit. A quick Google search resulted in this: http://www.customled.com/products/flasher_relay/flasher_relay.htm Not sure if you could find a similar unit elsewhere. I've found that if I go to larger auto parts stores its hit or miss if I find an employee that knows their stuff. However, if you go in with a part number, you should be able to get something. Anyone have a suggestion on a part number for a no-load flasher unit that is a drop in replacement? -Joey On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net wrote: This morning I went searching for a 'no load' flasher. I tried auto parts store and they had never heard of it. They did have electronic flashers so for $13 I bought one of them and tried it. The turn signals don't light up at all with that unit. I went to radio shack in search of a 555 timer circuit, again unheard of. One clerk did show me a unit about half the size of a postage stamp with tiny prongs coming out of it - about 6 or 8 of them but there was no way that could substitute as a flasher unit. So, is an electronic flasher the same as a no load flasher and if so, what does it mean that it didn't work? Graham On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Joey Kelley wrote: Thats where I was going with that as well- a No-Load flasher unit will continue to flash no matter what load is on the circuit. If I were you Graham - I'd swap the flasher unit for a no-load unit and see if that makes a difference. I think you can use a No-load on any circuit - so it wouldn't harm traditional bulbs either. -Joey On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, greenzer...@gmail.com greenzer...@gmail.com wrote: The main reason flashers units dont work is the bulbs dont draw enough amps (did u reace with a lower watt bulb or leds???) the test is fairly simple, hook up a large light (i used a sealed beam headlight) into the circuit... If this makes it flash u need to get a digital flasher unit (spicifily for led turnsignals)... -Original Message- Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:24:11 am To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com From: Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working Here's one I'm fed up with working on. I have two bikes that have nonworking right turn signals. They both do the same thing. So I'll describe one. (The other is a kz1000). It's a 1982/83 Suzuki GS1100L. I replaced the turn signals with new after markets. The front originls were running lights with three wires, the replacements are just two wire. So with the signals hooked up - and I'm sure I have the wires connected correctly on the front ones, leaving the running lights wires open (unconnected). The turn signals stay on when activated. The left ones turn on when I push the switch to the left, and same for the right. I have changed the flasher unit and the relay unit - no difference. A new battery and correct charging voltage makes no difference. It seems to me there's not enough voltage getting to the flasher unit to make it work. One wire out of the flasher unit reads
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working
greenzer...@gmail.com wrote: The main reason flashers units dont work is the bulbs dont draw enough amps (did u reace with a lower watt bulb or leds???) the test is fairly simple, hook up a large light (i used a sealed beam headlight) into the circuit... If this makes it flash u need to get a digital flasher unit (spicifily for led turnsignals)... -Original Message- Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:24:11 am To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com From: Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working Here's one I'm fed up with working on. I have two bikes that have nonworking right turn signals. They both do the same thing. So I'll describe one. (The other is a kz1000). It's a 1982/83 Suzuki GS1100L. I replaced the turn signals with new after markets. The front originls were running lights with three wires, the replacements are just two wire. So with the signals hooked up - and I'm sure I have the wires connected correctly on the front ones, leaving the running lights wires open (unconnected). The turn signals stay on when activated. The left ones turn on when I push the switch to the left, and same for the right. I have changed the flasher unit and the relay unit - no difference. A new battery and correct charging voltage makes no difference. It seems to me there's not enough voltage getting to the flasher unit to make it work. One wire out of the flasher unit reads over 12 v, the other - way under (it's a three prong unit). I have checked all grounds, added one, no difference. Any suggestions? Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- -Joey Kelley Need Computer Technical support? http://www.crossloop.com/JoeyKelleyComputerServices At your service - via remote control! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- -Joey Kelley Need Computer Technical support? http://www.crossloop.com/JoeyKelleyComputerServices At your service - via remote control! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- -Joey Kelley Need Computer Technical support? http://www.crossloop.com/JoeyKelleyComputerServices At your service - via remote control! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working
stamp with tiny prongs coming out of it - about 6 or 8 of them but there was no way that could substitute as a flasher unit. So, is an electronic flasher the same as a no load flasher and if so, what does it mean that it didn't work? Graham On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Joey Kelley wrote: Thats where I was going with that as well- a No-Load flasher unit will continue to flash no matter what load is on the circuit. If I were you Graham - I'd swap the flasher unit for a no-load unit and see if that makes a difference. I think you can use a No-load on any circuit - so it wouldn't harm traditional bulbs either. -Joey On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, greenzer...@gmail.com greenzer...@gmail.com wrote: The main reason flashers units dont work is the bulbs dont draw enough amps (did u reace with a lower watt bulb or leds???) the test is fairly simple, hook up a large light (i used a sealed beam headlight) into the circuit... If this makes it flash u need to get a digital flasher unit (spicifily for led turnsignals)... -Original Message- Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:24:11 am To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com From: Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working Here's one I'm fed up with working on. I have two bikes that have nonworking right turn signals. They both do the same thing. So I'll describe one. (The other is a kz1000). It's a 1982/83 Suzuki GS1100L. I replaced the turn signals with new after markets. The front originls were running lights with three wires, the replacements are just two wire. So with the signals hooked up - and I'm sure I have the wires connected correctly on the front ones, leaving the running lights wires open (unconnected). The turn signals stay on when activated. The left ones turn on when I push the switch to the left, and same for the right. I have changed the flasher unit and the relay unit - no difference. A new battery and correct charging voltage makes no difference. It seems to me there's not enough voltage getting to the flasher unit to make it work. One wire out of the flasher unit reads over 12 v, the other - way under (it's a three prong unit). I have checked all grounds, added one, no difference. Any suggestions? Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnighthawk_lovers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnighthawk_lovers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- -Joey Kelley Need Computer Technical support? http://www.crossloop.com/JoeyKelleyComputerServices At your service - via remote control! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnighthawk_lovers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnighthawk_lovers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- -Joey Kelley Need Computer Technical support? http://www.crossloop.com/JoeyKelleyComputerServices At your service - via remote control! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnighthawk_lovers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working
/flasher_relay.htm Not sure if you could find a similar unit elsewhere. I've found that if I go to larger auto parts stores its hit or miss if I find an employee that knows their stuff. However, if you go in with a part number, you should be able to get something. Anyone have a suggestion on a part number for a no-load flasher unit that is a drop in replacement? -Joey On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net wrote: This morning I went searching for a 'no load' flasher. I tried auto parts store and they had never heard of it. They did have electronic flashers so for $13 I bought one of them and tried it. The turn signals don't light up at all with that unit. I went to radio shack in search of a 555 timer circuit, again unheard of. One clerk did show me a unit about half the size of a postage stamp with tiny prongs coming out of it - about 6 or 8 of them but there was no way that could substitute as a flasher unit. So, is an electronic flasher the same as a no load flasher and if so, what does it mean that it didn't work? Graham On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Joey Kelley wrote: Thats where I was going with that as well- a No-Load flasher unit will continue to flash no matter what load is on the circuit. If I were you Graham - I'd swap the flasher unit for a no-load unit and see if that makes a difference. I think you can use a No-load on any circuit - so it wouldn't harm traditional bulbs either. -Joey On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, greenzer...@gmail.com greenzer...@gmail.com wrote: The main reason flashers units dont work is the bulbs dont draw enough amps (did u reace with a lower watt bulb or leds???) the test is fairly simple, hook up a large light (i used a sealed beam headlight) into the circuit... If this makes it flash u need to get a digital flasher unit (spicifily for led turnsignals)... -Original Message- Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:24:11 am To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com From: Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working Here's one I'm fed up with working on. I have two bikes that have nonworking right turn signals. They both do the same thing. So I'll describe one. (The other is a kz1000). It's a 1982/83 Suzuki GS1100L. I replaced the turn signals with new after markets. The front originls were running lights with three wires, the replacements are just two wire. So with the signals hooked up - and I'm sure I have the wires connected correctly on the front ones, leaving the running lights wires open (unconnected). The turn signals stay on when activated. The left ones turn on when I push the switch to the left, and same for the right. I have changed the flasher unit and the relay unit - no difference. A new battery and correct charging voltage makes no difference. It seems to me there's not enough voltage getting to the flasher unit to make it work. One wire out of the flasher unit reads over 12 v, the other - way under (it's a three prong unit). I have checked all grounds, added one, no difference. Any suggestions? Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnighthawk_lovers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnighthawk_lovers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- -Joey Kelley Need Computer Technical support? http://www.crossloop.com/JoeyKelleyComputerServices At your service - via remote control! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnighthawk_lovers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnighthawk_lovers%2bunsubscr
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working
and wiring to actually function as a no load flasher unit. A quick Google search resulted in this: http://www.customled.com/products/flasher_relay/flasher_relay.htm Not sure if you could find a similar unit elsewhere. I've found that if I go to larger auto parts stores its hit or miss if I find an employee that knows their stuff. However, if you go in with a part number, you should be able to get something. Anyone have a suggestion on a part number for a no-load flasher unit that is a drop in replacement? -Joey On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net wrote: This morning I went searching for a 'no load' flasher. I tried auto parts store and they had never heard of it. They did have electronic flashers so for $13 I bought one of them and tried it. The turn signals don't light up at all with that unit. I went to radio shack in search of a 555 timer circuit, again unheard of. One clerk did show me a unit about half the size of a postage stamp with tiny prongs coming out of it - about 6 or 8 of them but there was no way that could substitute as a flasher unit. So, is an electronic flasher the same as a no load flasher and if so, what does it mean that it didn't work? Graham On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Joey Kelley wrote: Thats where I was going with that as well- a No-Load flasher unit will continue to flash no matter what load is on the circuit. If I were you Graham - I'd swap the flasher unit for a no-load unit and see if that makes a difference. I think you can use a No-load on any circuit - so it wouldn't harm traditional bulbs either. -Joey On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, greenzer...@gmail.com greenzer...@gmail.com wrote: The main reason flashers units dont work is the bulbs dont draw enough amps (did u reace with a lower watt bulb or leds???) the test is fairly simple, hook up a large light (i used a sealed beam headlight) into the circuit... If this makes it flash u need to get a digital flasher unit (spicifily for led turnsignals)... -Original Message- Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:24:11 am To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com From: Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working Here's one I'm fed up with working on. I have two bikes that have nonworking right turn signals. They both do the same thing. So I'll describe one. (The other is a kz1000). It's a 1982/83 Suzuki GS1100L. I replaced the turn signals with new after markets. The front originls were running lights with three wires, the replacements are just two wire. So with the signals hooked up - and I'm sure I have the wires connected correctly on the front ones, leaving the running lights wires open (unconnected). The turn signals stay on when activated. The left ones turn on when I push the switch to the left, and same for the right. I have changed the flasher unit and the relay unit - no difference. A new battery and correct charging voltage makes no difference. It seems to me there's not enough voltage getting to the flasher unit to make it work. One wire out of the flasher unit reads over 12 v, the other - way under (it's a three prong unit). I have checked all grounds, added one, no difference. Any suggestions? Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- -Joey Kelley Need Computer Technical support? http://www.crossloop.com/JoeyKelleyComputerServices At your service - via remote control! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working
purchase one and attempt to use it. A 555 timer is a small integrated circuit, probably what you saw at Radio Shack. It would require additional circuitry and wiring to actually function as a no load flasher unit. A quick Google search resulted in this: http://www.customled.com/products/flasher_relay/flasher_relay.htm Not sure if you could find a similar unit elsewhere. I've found that if I go to larger auto parts stores its hit or miss if I find an employee that knows their stuff. However, if you go in with a part number, you should be able to get something. Anyone have a suggestion on a part number for a no-load flasher unit that is a drop in replacement? -Joey On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net wrote: This morning I went searching for a 'no load' flasher. I tried auto parts store and they had never heard of it. They did have electronic flashers so for $13 I bought one of them and tried it. The turn signals don't light up at all with that unit. I went to radio shack in search of a 555 timer circuit, again unheard of. One clerk did show me a unit about half the size of a postage stamp with tiny prongs coming out of it - about 6 or 8 of them but there was no way that could substitute as a flasher unit. So, is an electronic flasher the same as a no load flasher and if so, what does it mean that it didn't work? Graham On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Joey Kelley wrote: Thats where I was going with that as well- a No-Load flasher unit will continue to flash no matter what load is on the circuit. If I were you Graham - I'd swap the flasher unit for a no-load unit and see if that makes a difference. I think you can use a No-load on any circuit - so it wouldn't harm traditional bulbs either. -Joey On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, greenzer...@gmail.com greenzer...@gmail.com wrote: The main reason flashers units dont work is the bulbs dont draw enough amps (did u reace with a lower watt bulb or leds???) the test is fairly simple, hook up a large light (i used a sealed beam headlight) into the circuit... If this makes it flash u need to get a digital flasher unit (spicifily for led turnsignals)... -Original Message- Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:24:11 am To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com From: Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working Here's one I'm fed up with working on. I have two bikes that have nonworking right turn signals. They both do the same thing. So I'll describe one. (The other is a kz1000). It's a 1982/83 Suzuki GS1100L. I replaced the turn signals with new after markets. The front originls were running lights with three wires, the replacements are just two wire. So with the signals hooked up - and I'm sure I have the wires connected correctly on the front ones, leaving the running lights wires open (unconnected). The turn signals stay on when activated. The left ones turn on when I push the switch to the left, and same for the right. I have changed the flasher unit and the relay unit - no difference. A new battery and correct charging voltage makes no difference. It seems to me there's not enough voltage getting to the flasher unit to make it work. One wire out of the flasher unit reads over 12 v, the other - way under (it's a three prong unit). I have checked all grounds, added one, no difference. Any suggestions? Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnighthawk_lovers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnighthawk_lovers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- -Joey Kelley Need Computer Technical support? http://www.crossloop.com/JoeyKelleyComputerServices At your service - via remote control! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnighthawk_lovers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working
the flasher first, you have nothing to lose, since even if you do have to replace the relay, you'd have to replace the flasher anyway. -Joey On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net wrote: Thanks Joey, I also need to know something else. The GS1100 has two units in the turn signal system. One is the 3 prong flasher unit. I think it's called turn signal unit on Bike Bandit. The other is a turn signal relay. It's a bigger unit with more than three wires coming out of it. It goes to a harness under the tank. Do I need to replace both? Graham On Jun 14, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Joey Kelley wrote: Graham, At the heart of a no-load flasher is a 555 timer circuit or similar - no one is suggesting that if you aren't familiar with a 555 timer that you go purchase one and attempt to use it. A 555 timer is a small integrated circuit, probably what you saw at Radio Shack. It would require additional circuitry and wiring to actually function as a no load flasher unit. A quick Google search resulted in this: http://www.customled.com/products/flasher_relay/flasher_relay.htm Not sure if you could find a similar unit elsewhere. I've found that if I go to larger auto parts stores its hit or miss if I find an employee that knows their stuff. However, if you go in with a part number, you should be able to get something. Anyone have a suggestion on a part number for a no-load flasher unit that is a drop in replacement? -Joey On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net wrote: This morning I went searching for a 'no load' flasher. I tried auto parts store and they had never heard of it. They did have electronic flashers so for $13 I bought one of them and tried it. The turn signals don't light up at all with that unit. I went to radio shack in search of a 555 timer circuit, again unheard of. One clerk did show me a unit about half the size of a postage stamp with tiny prongs coming out of it - about 6 or 8 of them but there was no way that could substitute as a flasher unit. So, is an electronic flasher the same as a no load flasher and if so, what does it mean that it didn't work? Graham On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Joey Kelley wrote: Thats where I was going with that as well- a No-Load flasher unit will continue to flash no matter what load is on the circuit. If I were you Graham - I'd swap the flasher unit for a no-load unit and see if that makes a difference. I think you can use a No-load on any circuit - so it wouldn't harm traditional bulbs either. -Joey On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, greenzer...@gmail.com greenzer...@gmail.com wrote: The main reason flashers units dont work is the bulbs dont draw enough amps (did u reace with a lower watt bulb or leds???) the test is fairly simple, hook up a large light (i used a sealed beam headlight) into the circuit... If this makes it flash u need to get a digital flasher unit (spicifily for led turnsignals)... -Original Message- Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:24:11 am To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com From: Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working Here's one I'm fed up with working on. I have two bikes that have nonworking right turn signals. They both do the same thing. So I'll describe one. (The other is a kz1000). It's a 1982/83 Suzuki GS1100L. I replaced the turn signals with new after markets. The front originls were running lights with three wires, the replacements are just two wire. So with the signals hooked up - and I'm sure I have the wires connected correctly on the front ones, leaving the running lights wires open (unconnected). The turn signals stay on when activated. The left ones turn on when I push the switch to the left, and same for the right. I have changed the flasher unit and the relay unit - no difference. A new battery and correct charging voltage makes no difference. It seems to me there's not enough voltage getting to the flasher unit to make it work. One wire out of the flasher unit reads over 12 v, the other - way under (it's a three prong unit). I have checked all grounds, added one, no difference. Any suggestions? Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working
the load off of the flasher unit, to extend its life. You shouldn't need to replace the relay. I would try the flasher first, you have nothing to lose, since even if you do have to replace the relay, you'd have to replace the flasher anyway. -Joey On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net wrote: Thanks Joey, I also need to know something else. The GS1100 has two units in the turn signal system. One is the 3 prong flasher unit. I think it's called turn signal unit on Bike Bandit. The other is a turn signal relay. It's a bigger unit with more than three wires coming out of it. It goes to a harness under the tank. Do I need to replace both? Graham On Jun 14, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Joey Kelley wrote: Graham, At the heart of a no-load flasher is a 555 timer circuit or similar - no one is suggesting that if you aren't familiar with a 555 timer that you go purchase one and attempt to use it. A 555 timer is a small integrated circuit, probably what you saw at Radio Shack. It would require additional circuitry and wiring to actually function as a no load flasher unit. A quick Google search resulted in this: http://www.customled.com/products/flasher_relay/flasher_relay.htm Not sure if you could find a similar unit elsewhere. I've found that if I go to larger auto parts stores its hit or miss if I find an employee that knows their stuff. However, if you go in with a part number, you should be able to get something. Anyone have a suggestion on a part number for a no-load flasher unit that is a drop in replacement? -Joey On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net wrote: This morning I went searching for a 'no load' flasher. I tried auto parts store and they had never heard of it. They did have electronic flashers so for $13 I bought one of them and tried it. The turn signals don't light up at all with that unit. I went to radio shack in search of a 555 timer circuit, again unheard of. One clerk did show me a unit about half the size of a postage stamp with tiny prongs coming out of it - about 6 or 8 of them but there was no way that could substitute as a flasher unit. So, is an electronic flasher the same as a no load flasher and if so, what does it mean that it didn't work? Graham On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Joey Kelley wrote: Thats where I was going with that as well- a No-Load flasher unit will continue to flash no matter what load is on the circuit. If I were you Graham - I'd swap the flasher unit for a no-load unit and see if that makes a difference. I think you can use a No-load on any circuit - so it wouldn't harm traditional bulbs either. -Joey On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, greenzer...@gmail.com greenzer...@gmail.com wrote: The main reason flashers units dont work is the bulbs dont draw enough amps (did u reace with a lower watt bulb or leds???) the test is fairly simple, hook up a large light (i used a sealed beam headlight) into the circuit... If this makes it flash u need to get a digital flasher unit (spicifily for led turnsignals)... -Original Message- Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:24:11 am To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com From: Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working Here's one I'm fed up with working on. I have two bikes that have nonworking right turn signals. They both do the same thing. So I'll describe one. (The other is a kz1000). It's a 1982/83 Suzuki GS1100L. I replaced the turn signals with new after markets. The front originls were running lights with three wires, the replacements are just two wire. So with the signals hooked up - and I'm sure I have the wires connected correctly on the front ones, leaving the running lights wires open (unconnected). The turn signals stay on when activated. The left ones turn on when I push the switch to the left, and same for the right. I have changed the flasher unit and the relay unit - no difference. A new battery and correct charging voltage makes no difference. It seems to me there's not enough voltage getting to the flasher unit to make it work. One wire out of the flasher unit reads over 12 v, the other - way under (it's a three prong unit). I have checked all grounds, added one, no difference. Any suggestions? Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnighthawk_lovers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working
- the relay is probably just relaying that signal on to the lights themselves. This would be suggested if you have the option of four way hazard lights (ie emergency flashers) or simply want to take the load off of the flasher unit, to extend its life. You shouldn't need to replace the relay. I would try the flasher first, you have nothing to lose, since even if you do have to replace the relay, you'd have to replace the flasher anyway. -Joey On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net wrote: Thanks Joey, I also need to know something else. The GS1100 has two units in the turn signal system. One is the 3 prong flasher unit. I think it's called turn signal unit on Bike Bandit. The other is a turn signal relay. It's a bigger unit with more than three wires coming out of it. It goes to a harness under the tank. Do I need to replace both? Graham On Jun 14, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Joey Kelley wrote: Graham, At the heart of a no-load flasher is a 555 timer circuit or similar - no one is suggesting that if you aren't familiar with a 555 timer that you go purchase one and attempt to use it. A 555 timer is a small integrated circuit, probably what you saw at Radio Shack. It would require additional circuitry and wiring to actually function as a no load flasher unit. A quick Google search resulted in this: http://www.customled.com/products/flasher_relay/flasher_relay.htm Not sure if you could find a similar unit elsewhere. I've found that if I go to larger auto parts stores its hit or miss if I find an employee that knows their stuff. However, if you go in with a part number, you should be able to get something. Anyone have a suggestion on a part number for a no-load flasher unit that is a drop in replacement? -Joey On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net wrote: This morning I went searching for a 'no load' flasher. I tried auto parts store and they had never heard of it. They did have electronic flashers so for $13 I bought one of them and tried it. The turn signals don't light up at all with that unit. I went to radio shack in search of a 555 timer circuit, again unheard of. One clerk did show me a unit about half the size of a postage stamp with tiny prongs coming out of it - about 6 or 8 of them but there was no way that could substitute as a flasher unit. So, is an electronic flasher the same as a no load flasher and if so, what does it mean that it didn't work? Graham On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Joey Kelley wrote: Thats where I was going with that as well- a No-Load flasher unit will continue to flash no matter what load is on the circuit. If I were you Graham - I'd swap the flasher unit for a no-load unit and see if that makes a difference. I think you can use a No-load on any circuit - so it wouldn't harm traditional bulbs either. -Joey On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, greenzer...@gmail.com greenzer...@gmail.com wrote: The main reason flashers units dont work is the bulbs dont draw enough amps (did u reace with a lower watt bulb or leds???) the test is fairly simple, hook up a large light (i used a sealed beam headlight) into the circuit... If this makes it flash u need to get a digital flasher unit (spicifily for led turnsignals)... -Original Message- Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:24:11 am To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com From: Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working Here's one I'm fed up with working on. I have two bikes that have nonworking right turn signals. They both do the same thing. So I'll describe one. (The other is a kz1000). It's a 1982/83 Suzuki GS1100L. I replaced the turn signals with new after markets. The front originls were running lights with three wires, the replacements are just two wire. So with the signals hooked up - and I'm sure I have the wires connected correctly on the front ones, leaving the running lights wires open (unconnected). The turn signals stay on when activated. The left ones turn on when I push the switch to the left, and same for the right. I have changed the flasher unit and the relay unit - no difference. A new battery and correct charging voltage makes no difference. It seems to me there's not enough voltage getting to the flasher unit to make it work. One wire out of the flasher unit reads over 12 v, the other - way under (it's a three prong unit). I have checked all grounds, added one, no difference. Any suggestions? Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit
[Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working
Here's one I'm fed up with working on. I have two bikes that have nonworking right turn signals. They both do the same thing. So I'll describe one. (The other is a kz1000). It's a 1982/83 Suzuki GS1100L. I replaced the turn signals with new after markets. The front originls were running lights with three wires, the replacements are just two wire. So with the signals hooked up - and I'm sure I have the wires connected correctly on the front ones, leaving the running lights wires open (unconnected). The turn signals stay on when activated. The left ones turn on when I push the switch to the left, and same for the right. I have changed the flasher unit and the relay unit - no difference. A new battery and correct charging voltage makes no difference. It seems to me there's not enough voltage getting to the flasher unit to make it work. One wire out of the flasher unit reads over 12 v, the other - way under (it's a three prong unit). I have checked all grounds, added one, no difference. Any suggestions? Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working
Graham, Are they LED lights you've put on? -Joey (PS - Is the KZ1000 as good as the rumors?) On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net wrote: Here's one I'm fed up with working on. I have two bikes that have nonworking right turn signals. They both do the same thing. So I'll describe one. (The other is a kz1000). It's a 1982/83 Suzuki GS1100L. I replaced the turn signals with new after markets. The front originls were running lights with three wires, the replacements are just two wire. So with the signals hooked up - and I'm sure I have the wires connected correctly on the front ones, leaving the running lights wires open (unconnected). The turn signals stay on when activated. The left ones turn on when I push the switch to the left, and same for the right. I have changed the flasher unit and the relay unit - no difference. A new battery and correct charging voltage makes no difference. It seems to me there's not enough voltage getting to the flasher unit to make it work. One wire out of the flasher unit reads over 12 v, the other - way under (it's a three prong unit). I have checked all grounds, added one, no difference. Any suggestions? Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- -Joey Kelley Need Computer Technical support? http://www.crossloop.com/JoeyKelleyComputerServices At your service - via remote control! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working
According to my roommate the KZ1000 is awsome When he was growing up in indiana they were used as police bikes, even got his hands on a KZ400 police bike from there demo team -Original Message- Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:28:16 am To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com From: Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working Graham, Are they LED lights you've put on? -Joey (PS - Is the KZ1000 as good as the rumors?) On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net wrote: Here's one I'm fed up with working on. I have two bikes that have nonworking right turn signals. They both do the same thing. So I'll describe one. (The other is a kz1000). It's a 1982/83 Suzuki GS1100L. I replaced the turn signals with new after markets. The front originls were running lights with three wires, the replacements are just two wire. So with the signals hooked up - and I'm sure I have the wires connected correctly on the front ones, leaving the running lights wires open (unconnected). The turn signals stay on when activated. The left ones turn on when I push the switch to the left, and same for the right. I have changed the flasher unit and the relay unit - no difference. A new battery and correct charging voltage makes no difference. It seems to me there's not enough voltage getting to the flasher unit to make it work. One wire out of the flasher unit reads over 12 v, the other - way under (it's a three prong unit). I have checked all grounds, added one, no difference. Any suggestions? Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- -Joey Kelley Need Computer Technical support? http://www.crossloop.com/JoeyKelleyComputerServices At your service - via remote control! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working
Thats where I was going with that as well- a No-Load flasher unit will continue to flash no matter what load is on the circuit. If I were you Graham - I'd swap the flasher unit for a no-load unit and see if that makes a difference. I think you can use a No-load on any circuit - so it wouldn't harm traditional bulbs either. -Joey On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, greenzer...@gmail.com greenzer...@gmail.com wrote: The main reason flashers units dont work is the bulbs dont draw enough amps (did u reace with a lower watt bulb or leds???) the test is fairly simple, hook up a large light (i used a sealed beam headlight) into the circuit... If this makes it flash u need to get a digital flasher unit (spicifily for led turnsignals)... -Original Message- Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:24:11 am To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com From: Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working Here's one I'm fed up with working on. I have two bikes that have nonworking right turn signals. They both do the same thing. So I'll describe one. (The other is a kz1000). It's a 1982/83 Suzuki GS1100L. I replaced the turn signals with new after markets. The front originls were running lights with three wires, the replacements are just two wire. So with the signals hooked up - and I'm sure I have the wires connected correctly on the front ones, leaving the running lights wires open (unconnected). The turn signals stay on when activated. The left ones turn on when I push the switch to the left, and same for the right. I have changed the flasher unit and the relay unit - no difference. A new battery and correct charging voltage makes no difference. It seems to me there's not enough voltage getting to the flasher unit to make it work. One wire out of the flasher unit reads over 12 v, the other - way under (it's a three prong unit). I have checked all grounds, added one, no difference. Any suggestions? Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- -Joey Kelley Need Computer Technical support? http://www.crossloop.com/JoeyKelleyComputerServices At your service - via remote control! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working
Yes, a no load will work with standard bulbs as well as led As far as a replacemrnt goes i would replace mine with a no load even if i dident have leds -Original Message- Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:58:59 am To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com From: Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working Thats where I was going with that as well- a No-Load flasher unit will continue to flash no matter what load is on the circuit. If I were you Graham - I'd swap the flasher unit for a no-load unit and see if that makes a difference. I think you can use a No-load on any circuit - so it wouldn't harm traditional bulbs either. -Joey On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, greenzer...@gmail.com greenzer...@gmail.com wrote: The main reason flashers units dont work is the bulbs dont draw enough amps (did u reace with a lower watt bulb or leds???) the test is fairly simple, hook up a large light (i used a sealed beam headlight) into the circuit... If this makes it flash u need to get a digital flasher unit (spicifily for led turnsignals)... -Original Message- Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:24:11 am To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com From: Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working Here's one I'm fed up with working on. I have two bikes that have nonworking right turn signals. They both do the same thing. So I'll describe one. (The other is a kz1000). It's a 1982/83 Suzuki GS1100L. I replaced the turn signals with new after markets. The front originls were running lights with three wires, the replacements are just two wire. So with the signals hooked up - and I'm sure I have the wires connected correctly on the front ones, leaving the running lights wires open (unconnected). The turn signals stay on when activated. The left ones turn on when I push the switch to the left, and same for the right. I have changed the flasher unit and the relay unit - no difference. A new battery and correct charging voltage makes no difference. It seems to me there's not enough voltage getting to the flasher unit to make it work. One wire out of the flasher unit reads over 12 v, the other - way under (it's a three prong unit). I have checked all grounds, added one, no difference. Any suggestions? Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- -Joey Kelley Need Computer Technical support? http://www.crossloop.com/JoeyKelleyComputerServices At your service - via remote control! -- You received this message -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working
No, el cheapo after market 'regulars' On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:28 AM, Joey Kelley wrote: Graham, Are they LED lights you've put on? -Joey (PS - Is the KZ1000 as good as the rumors?) On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net wrote: Here's one I'm fed up with working on. I have two bikes that have nonworking right turn signals. They both do the same thing. So I'll describe one. (The other is a kz1000). It's a 1982/83 Suzuki GS1100L. I replaced the turn signals with new after markets. The front originls were running lights with three wires, the replacements are just two wire. So with the signals hooked up - and I'm sure I have the wires connected correctly on the front ones, leaving the running lights wires open (unconnected). The turn signals stay on when activated. The left ones turn on when I push the switch to the left, and same for the right. I have changed the flasher unit and the relay unit - no difference. A new battery and correct charging voltage makes no difference. It seems to me there's not enough voltage getting to the flasher unit to make it work. One wire out of the flasher unit reads over 12 v, the other - way under (it's a three prong unit). I have checked all grounds, added one, no difference. Any suggestions? Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- -Joey Kelley Need Computer Technical support? http://www.crossloop.com/JoeyKelleyComputerServices At your service - via remote control! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working
I'm going to sell this one as soon as I get the turn signals running right and a couple of other things. On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:55 AM, greenzer...@gmail.com wrote: According to my roommate the KZ1000 is awsome When he was growing up in indiana they were used as police bikes, even got his hands on a KZ400 police bike from there demo team -Original Message- Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:28:16 am To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com From: Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working Graham, Are they LED lights you've put on? -Joey (PS - Is the KZ1000 as good as the rumors?) On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net wrote: Here's one I'm fed up with working on. I have two bikes that have nonworking right turn signals. They both do the same thing. So I'll describe one. (The other is a kz1000). It's a 1982/83 Suzuki GS1100L. I replaced the turn signals with new after markets. The front originls were running lights with three wires, the replacements are just two wire. So with the signals hooked up - and I'm sure I have the wires connected correctly on the front ones, leaving the running lights wires open (unconnected). The turn signals stay on when activated. The left ones turn on when I push the switch to the left, and same for the right. I have changed the flasher unit and the relay unit - no difference. A new battery and correct charging voltage makes no difference. It seems to me there's not enough voltage getting to the flasher unit to make it work. One wire out of the flasher unit reads over 12 v, the other - way under (it's a three prong unit). I have checked all grounds, added one, no difference. Any suggestions? Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- -Joey Kelley Need Computer Technical support? http://www.crossloop.com/JoeyKelleyComputerServices At your service - via remote control! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working
a no load flasher unit is a 555 timer circuit with a rehistat to adjust the timing but in english its a replacement flasher unit that will work at any amperage (the oem ones are a bi metallic strip that flashes biased on the strip heating up and breaking contact cooling off and reconnecting ) its an electronic circuit not a mechanical thermal unit... i believe that they are now even cheaper then oem... On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net wrote: what is a no load flasher unit? On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Joey Kelley wrote: Thats where I was going with that as well- a No-Load flasher unit will continue to flash no matter what load is on the circuit. If I were you Graham - I'd swap the flasher unit for a no-load unit and see if that makes a difference. I think you can use a No-load on any circuit - so it wouldn't harm traditional bulbs either. -Joey On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, greenzer...@gmail.com greenzer...@gmail.com wrote: The main reason flashers units dont work is the bulbs dont draw enough amps (did u reace with a lower watt bulb or leds???) the test is fairly simple, hook up a large light (i used a sealed beam headlight) into the circuit... If this makes it flash u need to get a digital flasher unit (spicifily for led turnsignals)... -Original Message- Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:24:11 am To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com From: Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working Here's one I'm fed up with working on. I have two bikes that have nonworking right turn signals. They both do the same thing. So I'll describe one. (The other is a kz1000). It's a 1982/83 Suzuki GS1100L. I replaced the turn signals with new after markets. The front originls were running lights with three wires, the replacements are just two wire. So with the signals hooked up - and I'm sure I have the wires connected correctly on the front ones, leaving the running lights wires open (unconnected). The turn signals stay on when activated. The left ones turn on when I push the switch to the left, and same for the right. I have changed the flasher unit and the relay unit - no difference. A new battery and correct charging voltage makes no difference. It seems to me there's not enough voltage getting to the flasher unit to make it work. One wire out of the flasher unit reads over 12 v, the other - way under (it's a three prong unit). I have checked all grounds, added one, no difference. Any suggestions? Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnighthawk_lovers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnighthawk_lovers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- -Joey Kelley Need Computer Technical support? http://www.crossloop.com/JoeyKelleyComputerServices At your service - via remote control! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnighthawk_lovers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnighthawk_lovers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working
OK, where do I get a no load flasher - 3 prongs) On Jun 13, 2010, at 1:23 PM, paul annen wrote: a no load flasher unit is a 555 timer circuit with a rehistat to adjust the timing but in english its a replacement flasher unit that will work at any amperage (the oem ones are a bi metallic strip that flashes biased on the strip heating up and breaking contact cooling off and reconnecting ) its an electronic circuit not a mechanical thermal unit... i believe that they are now even cheaper then oem... On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net wrote: what is a no load flasher unit? On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Joey Kelley wrote: Thats where I was going with that as well- a No-Load flasher unit will continue to flash no matter what load is on the circuit. If I were you Graham - I'd swap the flasher unit for a no-load unit and see if that makes a difference. I think you can use a No-load on any circuit - so it wouldn't harm traditional bulbs either. -Joey On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, greenzer...@gmail.com greenzer...@gmail.com wrote: The main reason flashers units dont work is the bulbs dont draw enough amps (did u reace with a lower watt bulb or leds???) the test is fairly simple, hook up a large light (i used a sealed beam headlight) into the circuit... If this makes it flash u need to get a digital flasher unit (spicifily for led turnsignals)... -Original Message- Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:24:11 am To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com From: Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working Here's one I'm fed up with working on. I have two bikes that have nonworking right turn signals. They both do the same thing. So I'll describe one. (The other is a kz1000). It's a 1982/83 Suzuki GS1100L. I replaced the turn signals with new after markets. The front originls were running lights with three wires, the replacements are just two wire. So with the signals hooked up - and I'm sure I have the wires connected correctly on the front ones, leaving the running lights wires open (unconnected). The turn signals stay on when activated. The left ones turn on when I push the switch to the left, and same for the right. I have changed the flasher unit and the relay unit - no difference. A new battery and correct charging voltage makes no difference. It seems to me there's not enough voltage getting to the flasher unit to make it work. One wire out of the flasher unit reads over 12 v, the other - way under (it's a three prong unit). I have checked all grounds, added one, no difference. Any suggestions? Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- -Joey Kelley Need Computer Technical support? http://www.crossloop.com/JoeyKelleyComputerServices At your service - via remote control! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working
Radio Shack has 555 timers. I use them to make zappers, which Hulda Clark uses to treat cancer patients that allopathic medicine establishment - types have given up on. You have to know how to wire this device, however, as it has more than three prongs, for several circuits... It's like a microchip type unit. It will go on - off repeatedly regardless of current flow, because it is internally timed. In the case of my application, it is sort of a 50% oscillation; so the output of the zapper reads about 4.5 volts, if it is powered with a 9-v battery. The voltmeter reads steadily at 4.5 or so volts, in spite of the cyclic oscillation of the timer, because of how it was wired and the components hooked up to it. Stanley From: Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, June 13, 2010 1:01:25 PM Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working OK, where do I get a no load flasher - 3 prongs) On Jun 13, 2010, at 1:23 PM, paul annen wrote: a no load flasher unit is a 555 timer circuit with a rehistat to adjust the timing but in english its a replacement flasher unit that will work at any amperage (the oem ones are a bi metallic strip that flashes biased on the strip heating up and breaking contact cooling off and reconnecting ) its an electronic circuit not a mechanical thermal unit... i believe that they are now even cheaper then oem... On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net wrote: what is a no load flasher unit? On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Joey Kelley wrote: Thats where I was going with that as well- a No-Load flasher unit will continue to flash no matter what load is on the circuit. If I were you Graham - I'd swap the flasher unit for a no-load unit and see if that makes a difference. I think you can use a No-load on any circuit - so it wouldn't harm traditional bulbs either. -Joey On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, greenzer...@gmail.com greenzer...@gmail.com wrote: The main reason flashers units dont work is the bulbs dont draw enough amps (did u reace with a lower watt bulb or leds???) the test is fairly simple, hook up a large light (i used a sealed beam headlight) into the circuit... If this makes it flash u need to get a digital flasher unit (spicifily for led turnsignals)... -Original Message- Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:24:11 am To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com From: Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working Here's one I'm fed up with working on. I have two bikes that have nonworking right turn signals. They both do the same thing. So I'll describe one. (The other is a kz1000). It's a 1982/83 Suzuki GS1100L. I replaced the turn signals with new after markets. The front originls were running lights with three wires, the replacements are just two wire. So with the signals hooked up - and I'm sure I have the wires connected correctly on the front ones, leaving the running lights wires open (unconnected). The turn signals stay on when activated. The left ones turn on when I push the switch to the left, and same for the right. I have changed the flasher unit and the relay unit - no difference. A new battery and correct charging voltage makes no difference. It seems to me there's not enough voltage getting to the flasher unit to make it work. One wire out of the flasher unit reads over 12 v, the other - way under (it's a three prong unit). I have checked all grounds, added one, no difference. Any suggestions? Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- -Joey Kelley Need Computer Technical support? http://www.crossloop.com/JoeyKelleyComputerServices At your service - via remote control! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working
BTW - they aren't expensive; cheaper than a load - type automotive unit. Stanley From: Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, June 13, 2010 1:01:25 PM Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working OK, where do I get a no load flasher - 3 prongs) On Jun 13, 2010, at 1:23 PM, paul annen wrote: a no load flasher unit is a 555 timer circuit with a rehistat to adjust the timing but in english its a replacement flasher unit that will work at any amperage (the oem ones are a bi metallic strip that flashes biased on the strip heating up and breaking contact cooling off and reconnecting ) its an electronic circuit not a mechanical thermal unit... i believe that they are now even cheaper then oem... On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net wrote: what is a no load flasher unit? On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Joey Kelley wrote: Thats where I was going with that as well- a No-Load flasher unit will continue to flash no matter what load is on the circuit. If I were you Graham - I'd swap the flasher unit for a no-load unit and see if that makes a difference. I think you can use a No-load on any circuit - so it wouldn't harm traditional bulbs either. -Joey On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:45 AM, greenzer...@gmail.com greenzer...@gmail.com wrote: The main reason flashers units dont work is the bulbs dont draw enough amps (did u reace with a lower watt bulb or leds???) the test is fairly simple, hook up a large light (i used a sealed beam headlight) into the circuit... If this makes it flash u need to get a digital flasher unit (spicifily for led turnsignals)... -Original Message- Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:24:11 am To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com From: Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals not working Here's one I'm fed up with working on. I have two bikes that have nonworking right turn signals. They both do the same thing. So I'll describe one. (The other is a kz1000). It's a 1982/83 Suzuki GS1100L. I replaced the turn signals with new after markets. The front originls were running lights with three wires, the replacements are just two wire. So with the signals hooked up - and I'm sure I have the wires connected correctly on the front ones, leaving the running lights wires open (unconnected). The turn signals stay on when activated. The left ones turn on when I push the switch to the left, and same for the right. I have changed the flasher unit and the relay unit - no difference. A new battery and correct charging voltage makes no difference. It seems to me there's not enough voltage getting to the flasher unit to make it work. One wire out of the flasher unit reads over 12 v, the other - way under (it's a three prong unit). I have checked all grounds, added one, no difference. Any suggestions? Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- -Joey Kelley Need Computer Technical support? http://www.crossloop.com/JoeyKelleyComputerServices At your service - via remote control! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group
[Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals won't blink
My turn signals on my 85 nighthawk 700sc will not blink or flash. Does that mean that my wire harness is faulty or does that mean that the flasher mechanism is not working? If the flasher mechanism is not working is there a replacement or a solution that anyone knows of or do i need to replace the whole wire harness? Any possible solutions are welcome. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Nighthawk Lovers] turn signals
Has anyone come up with a way of mounting turn signals on the 700S without using the rubber stays that go round the fork stem? I have signals that I could mount to the plastic nose cone by drilling a hole but I'd like to avoid that if possible, Graham --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals..
I've got a set of working rear turn signals from an 84 650 as well as one good rubber stay that I'd be willing to sell if someone needs them. Also due to a wiring mixup when installing the new turn signals, I think I fried my relay. Anyone got one --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
