Re: PESO: DA 12-24 in action
Nice shot Paul. The DA 12-24 is one of my favourite lens. It's sharp from corner to corner at f4. This lens always has space in my photo-bag :) This lens is also good for 'portrait' shots even at 12mm (if used correctly). I've posted a portrait of my pentaxian friend earlier (her nickname is SilentOkami :P) and here's an other sample of her shot with DA 12-24 @ 12mm: http://flickr.com/photos/timbah/3015094347/ and one at 24mm: http://flickr.com/photos/timbah/3015927916/ but what I really like about this lens is the spot light rendering on night shots. Here's an example: http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/96785385 So if anyone is considering this lens or not... do not hesitate. :) Cheers, .t Here's a shot of a drag car passenger cabin. It's the Dodge Challenger factory SS car that I shot last month. It's at ISO400, f4.5, 1/750th and 12mm. The focus is on the steering wheel. I needed f4.5 to be able to light the black interior with the 540 and lightsphere diffuser. I needed 1/750th to keep the background from burning out. There's some Moire (sp?) patterning on the window net and the seat belt fabric, but I think that's a function of the lighting rather than the lens. This is the full frame. At 100% the seams on the steering wheel wrap are sharp. The lens has returned a lot of good results for me. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8335606size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Silly rhymes
A talented snapper called Cotty Believed all his pictures were grotty Until he discovered A girl in his cupboard And now he shoots only nice totty. A man with a camera called Bob Went a bit posh on the job To Leica he drifted And sure he is gifted But colloquially known as a knob ;-))) When middle-aged men get cometitive It soon becomes dull and repetitive Because the old-timers Now have Alzheimers And that's why they're both so forgetitive Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Silly rhymes
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/12/03 Wed AM 12:22:39 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Silly rhymes On 2/12/08, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: A habit obscene and unsavoury holds the Bishop of Wessex in slavery. With maniacal howls he deflowers young owls which he keeps in an underground aviary. But the prior of Dunstan St. Just, overcome with erotical lust, raped the bishop's prize fowls (his treasured young owls) and a little green lizard, what bust. LOL These are hilarious. Never read them before. The Limerick by Gershon Legman. All (and more than) you could ever imagine. http://www.amazon.com/Limerick-G-Legman/dp/0517139111 - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Blank White Metering
John Celio wrote: Plus-X and D-76, loved Agfa APX-100 but sadly they don't make it anymore... Not only do they not make it, Agfa has not even been in business since late 2006. I miss a lot of their products. Actually, Agfa is alive and well, and I think they may even still be making some sorts of special-purpose film. But they have shut down their consumer photography department, which I suppose you may say is what you were referring to. Anyhow, as others have pointed out, some of the products were taken over by others, and you may even be able to get APX-100 still, only it will now be called Rollei Retro 100. Whether this film have been produced for Rollei or they are just selling new old stock taken over from Agfa seems a bit unclear (both are being claimed on the web.) - Toralf This email and any files contained therein is confidential and may contain privileged information. If you are not the named addressee(s) or you have otherwise received this in error, you should not distribute or copy this e-mail or use any of its content for any purpose. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail in error and delete it from your system -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax repairs of LXs
From: Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/12/03 Wed AM 05:01:10 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax repairs of LXs That was thoughtful of you, Joe, and informative for LX owners. I'm saving money to be an LX owner myself someday. Cheers, Christine They are probably never going to be cheaper than they are now. At least, until the total demise of society and/or the demolition of Earth for a hyperspace bypass. Bought and serviced now, it will still be functional long after film is processable or possibly obtainable. Errr. - Original Message - From: Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:52 PM Subject: Pentax repairs of LXs Someone on the list asked last week about repairing LXs. So I wrote to Pentax about there no longer being a list of repairable cameras on their new website. Their reply: Dear Mr. McAllister, Thank you for contacting Pentax. We recently launched a new website and not all of the features from the old website are available yet. We do still service the LX model. If you send the camera into us, we would be happy to take a look at it and provide a free no commitment estimate to you, which would state the cost to repair the camera. Our service department address is: Pentax Service Department 12061 Tejon Street Suite 600 Westminster, CO 80234 Joseph McAllister Lots of gear, not much time -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Pentax repairs of LXs
mike Wilson wrote: They are probably never going to be cheaper than they are now. At least, until the total demise of society and/or the demolition of Earth for a hyperspace bypass. Bought and serviced now, it will still be functional long after film is processable or possibly obtainable. Given the prices of servicing, it's probably cheaper to buy another known working one. I shall be putting some film through my LX this Christmas, which will be the first time I've taken pictures for the joy of photography this year. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Silly rhymes
mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Limerick by Gershon Legman. All (and more than) you could ever imagine. http://www.amazon.com/Limerick-G-Legman/dp/0517139111 I like the more linguistic variety: There was an old Lady called Parr, who took the three-three for Forfar. Cause, she said I believe it is likely to leave far before the four-four for Forfar. Then, many moons ago, there was a competition in Modern Computing, to send in limericks with either Commodore, Sinclair, or Atari in them. Should give you an idea about how long ago that must have been. The winner took home the grand prize, a sinclair Spectrum, for this work of art: Atari, Atari, Atari, Atari, Atari, Atari, Atari, Atari, Atari, Atari, Atari, Atari, Atari. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Progress never stands still - is this the next sensor design?
Cheaper, sharper, better? Or pie in the sky? http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/multimedia/2008/12/gallery_photodet ector?slide=1slideView=1 or tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/5hj7ym I hope that Sigma doesn't get a hold of it and do another Foveon :-( Regards, Anthony -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Progress never stands still - is this the next sensor design?
Heineken, *probably* the best beer in the world... On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cheaper, sharper, better? Or pie in the sky? http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/multimedia/2008/12/gallery_photodet ector?slide=1slideView=1 or tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/5hj7ym I hope that Sigma doesn't get a hold of it and do another Foveon :-( Regards, Anthony -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Wedding Photography Website
Your site uses css so theres no limit to the type of editing you want to do. The pics load pretty slow for me and I'm on a adsl line. Perhaps its gallery script you using, have you tried lightbox? Why are you encouraging downloads? PN Stenquist wrote: i put together a wedding photography website. Since I'm clueless in HTML, I used iWeb and templates. That's limiting, but at least i'm up and running. It's a bit pretentious, but so are young Michigan brides:-). Any feedback is welcome. It's here: http://www.paulstenquist.com I also set up a page on weddingwire.com that links to my site. Wedding wire is an online catalog of wedding vendors. My page is here: http://www.weddingwire.com/biz/paul-stenquist-photography-bloomfield-hills/45bfca615e0ee586.html Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 2008/11/30 05:53 PM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - by any other name
Doug wrote: Frank suggested I post this: http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=788 enjoy Gorgeous vintage feel. Well taken, and well suggested, Frank Derby -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Wedding Photography Website
What kind of internet connection do you have? The pics load rapidly here over comcast high speed internet on both Firefox and Safari. I don't have Explorer, so I haven't tried it, but I'll try on my daughter's PC. On Dec 2, 2008, at 11:56 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Paul: I went to your website 4 different times each time the pics in the gallery loaded really slow, and I couldn't use the scroll bar at all during the downloading of the gallery pics, which I though strange. I use IE7. Just thought I'd let you know. Good luck with the site. Hope it yields big bucks for you :-). Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:33 PM Subject: OT: Wedding Photography Website i put together a wedding photography website. Since I'm clueless in HTML, I used iWeb and templates. That's limiting, but at least i'm up and running. It's a bit pretentious, but so are young Michigan brides:-). Any feedback is welcome. It's here: http://www.paulstenquist.com I also set up a page on weddingwire.com that links to my site. Wedding wire is an online catalog of wedding vendors. My page is here: http://www.weddingwire.com/biz/paul-stenquist-photography-bloomfield-hills/45bfca615e0ee586.html Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA 12-24 in action
Thanks Christine. The lens is worth owning. It provides a substantial increase in FOV over either the 16-45 or 16-50. The 14/2.8, while a nice lens and a faster lens, provides only half the increase. Paul On Dec 3, 2008, at 12:22 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Yes, good job here with this lens, Paul. Your explanation of lighting strategy was helpful and informative as well. Yes, this lens seems like one to be seriously considered. Nice pic too, Paul. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:13 PM Subject: PESO: DA 12-24 in action Here's a shot of a drag car passenger cabin. It's the Dodge Challenger factory SS car that I shot last month. It's at ISO400, f4.5, 1/750th and 12mm. The focus is on the steering wheel. I needed f4.5 to be able to light the black interior with the 540 and lightsphere diffuser. I needed 1/750th to keep the background from burning out. There's some Moire (sp?) patterning on the window net and the seat belt fabric, but I think that's a function of the lighting rather than the lens. This is the full frame. At 100% the seams on the steering wheel wrap are sharp. The lens has returned a lot of good results for me. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8335606size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: DA 12-24 in action
Nice work, Tim. I love your unusual perspective on portraits. Well done. Paul On Dec 3, 2008, at 3:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice shot Paul. The DA 12-24 is one of my favourite lens. It's sharp from corner to corner at f4. This lens always has space in my photo-bag :) This lens is also good for 'portrait' shots even at 12mm (if used correctly). I've posted a portrait of my pentaxian friend earlier (her nickname is SilentOkami :P) and here's an other sample of her shot with DA 12-24 @ 12mm: http://flickr.com/photos/timbah/3015094347/ and one at 24mm: http://flickr.com/photos/timbah/3015927916/ but what I really like about this lens is the spot light rendering on night shots. Here's an example: http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/96785385 So if anyone is considering this lens or not... do not hesitate. :) Cheers, .t Here's a shot of a drag car passenger cabin. It's the Dodge Challenger factory SS car that I shot last month. It's at ISO400, f4.5, 1/750th and 12mm. The focus is on the steering wheel. I needed f4.5 to be able to light the black interior with the 540 and lightsphere diffuser. I needed 1/750th to keep the background from burning out. There's some Moire (sp?) patterning on the window net and the seat belt fabric, but I think that's a function of the lighting rather than the lens. This is the full frame. At 100% the seams on the steering wheel wrap are sharp. The lens has returned a lot of good results for me. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8335606size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Wedding Photography Website
Thanks for the help Feroze. I didn't know I was encouraging downloads, but it doesn't really matter if someone does download the photos. All my packages come with a full set of hi-res files, and all of these are from weddings that are paid in full. I'm technically ignorant when it comes to the web. I used iWeb to build the site using templates. What is lightbox? On Dec 3, 2008, at 6:23 AM, Feroze wrote: Your site uses css so theres no limit to the type of editing you want to do. The pics load pretty slow for me and I'm on a adsl line. Perhaps its gallery script you using, have you tried lightbox? Why are you encouraging downloads? PN Stenquist wrote: i put together a wedding photography website. Since I'm clueless in HTML, I used iWeb and templates. That's limiting, but at least i'm up and running. It's a bit pretentious, but so are young Michigan brides:-). Any feedback is welcome. It's here: http://www.paulstenquist.com I also set up a page on weddingwire.com that links to my site. Wedding wire is an online catalog of wedding vendors. My page is here: http://www.weddingwire.com/biz/paul-stenquist-photography-bloomfield-hills/45bfca615e0ee586.html Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 2008/11/30 05:53 PM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - by any other name
What Derby said. I love the tonality. Paul On Dec 3, 2008, at 6:33 AM, Derby Chang wrote: Doug wrote: Frank suggested I post this: http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=788 enjoy Gorgeous vintage feel. Well taken, and well suggested, Frank Derby -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Wedding Photography Website
I don't know how copyright works over on that side of the pond, but here in SA the copyright to the photo still belongs to the photographer unless the contract states otherwise. I'm a full time graphic designer and have had people pitch up for an interview with work that I've designed in their portfolio, people tend to pull off good shots from other sites to use as there's and some of the shots I saw looked pretty good, tempting to someone trying to boost their own portfolio. Templates are fine if your just starting to learn css which is pretty powerful if used correctly, but remember that the templates are available to many others as well. It would be easier for me to show you lightbox in use here: www.fahmphotography.com/tlc1.htm PN Stenquist wrote: Thanks for the help Feroze. I didn't know I was encouraging downloads, but it doesn't really matter if someone does download the photos. All my packages come with a full set of hi-res files, and all of these are from weddings that are paid in full. I'm technically ignorant when it comes to the web. I used iWeb to build the site using templates. What is lightbox? On Dec 3, 2008, at 6:23 AM, Feroze wrote: Your site uses css so theres no limit to the type of editing you want to do. The pics load pretty slow for me and I'm on a adsl line. Perhaps its gallery script you using, have you tried lightbox? Why are you encouraging downloads? PN Stenquist wrote: i put together a wedding photography website. Since I'm clueless in HTML, I used iWeb and templates. That's limiting, but at least i'm up and running. It's a bit pretentious, but so are young Michigan brides:-). Any feedback is welcome. It's here: http://www.paulstenquist.com I also set up a page on weddingwire.com that links to my site. Wedding wire is an online catalog of wedding vendors. My page is here: http://www.weddingwire.com/biz/paul-stenquist-photography-bloomfield-hills/45bfca615e0ee586.html Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 2008/11/30 05:53 PM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.13/1825 - Release Date: 2008/12/02 08:44 PM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Wedding Photography Website
Thanks again. What does css mean? My contracts state that all photos become the property of the bride and groom, but I retain the right to use them in my portfolio and for advertising. A lot of the local wedding photographers work that way. It's less messy. You charge an initial package price, then turn over responsibility to the couple. Sometimes they still come back for additional prints, but it's the upfront charges that make it all profitable. Paul On Dec 3, 2008, at 7:23 AM, Feroze wrote: I don't know how copyright works over on that side of the pond, but here in SA the copyright to the photo still belongs to the photographer unless the contract states otherwise. I'm a full time graphic designer and have had people pitch up for an interview with work that I've designed in their portfolio, people tend to pull off good shots from other sites to use as there's and some of the shots I saw looked pretty good, tempting to someone trying to boost their own portfolio. Templates are fine if your just starting to learn css which is pretty powerful if used correctly, but remember that the templates are available to many others as well. It would be easier for me to show you lightbox in use here: www.fahmphotography.com/tlc1.htm PN Stenquist wrote: Thanks for the help Feroze. I didn't know I was encouraging downloads, but it doesn't really matter if someone does download the photos. All my packages come with a full set of hi-res files, and all of these are from weddings that are paid in full. I'm technically ignorant when it comes to the web. I used iWeb to build the site using templates. What is lightbox? On Dec 3, 2008, at 6:23 AM, Feroze wrote: Your site uses css so theres no limit to the type of editing you want to do. The pics load pretty slow for me and I'm on a adsl line. Perhaps its gallery script you using, have you tried lightbox? Why are you encouraging downloads? PN Stenquist wrote: i put together a wedding photography website. Since I'm clueless in HTML, I used iWeb and templates. That's limiting, but at least i'm up and running. It's a bit pretentious, but so are young Michigan brides:-). Any feedback is welcome. It's here: http://www.paulstenquist.com I also set up a page on weddingwire.com that links to my site. Wedding wire is an online catalog of wedding vendors. My page is here: http://www.weddingwire.com/biz/paul-stenquist-photography-bloomfield-hills/45bfca615e0ee586.html Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 2008/11/30 05:53 PM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.13/1825 - Release Date: 2008/12/02 08:44 PM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: DA 12-24 in action
PN Stenquist wrote: Here's a shot of a drag car passenger cabin. It's the Dodge Challenger factory SS car that I shot last month. It's at ISO400, f4.5, 1/750th and 12mm. The focus is on the steering wheel. I needed f4.5 to be able to light the black interior with the 540 and lightsphere diffuser. I needed 1/750th to keep the background from burning out. There's some Moire (sp?) patterning on the window net and the seat belt fabric, but I think that's a function of the lighting rather than the lens. This is the full frame. At 100% the seams on the steering wheel wrap are sharp. The lens has returned a lot of good results for me. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8335606size=lg Good shot, Paul. I do love that lens. It's mounted on my K20D right now, scheduled for interior shots of the museum today. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: DA 12-24 in action
Thanks Doug. I do think it's the best choice for ultra-wide on a Pentax DSLR. Paul On Dec 3, 2008, at 8:27 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: PN Stenquist wrote: Here's a shot of a drag car passenger cabin. It's the Dodge Challenger factory SS car that I shot last month. It's at ISO400, f4.5, 1/750th and 12mm. The focus is on the steering wheel. I needed f4.5 to be able to light the black interior with the 540 and lightsphere diffuser. I needed 1/750th to keep the background from burning out. There's some Moire (sp?) patterning on the window net and the seat belt fabric, but I think that's a function of the lighting rather than the lens. This is the full frame. At 100% the seams on the steering wheel wrap are sharp. The lens has returned a lot of good results for me. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8335606size=lg Good shot, Paul. I do love that lens. It's mounted on my K20D right now, scheduled for interior shots of the museum today. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Wedding Photography Website
CSS=cascading style sheets, think of your web page as those Babushka dolls, each layer wrapped around the next layer, css its a way to separate content and markup, so if you wanted to change the colour or appearance of the site you'd only change the style sheet and the changes would happen through the site, you could makeover a 10 000 page website by editing one style sheet Yours is here: http://web.me.com/pnstenquist/wedding_photography/Photos_files/Photos.css basic : http://htmlhelp.com/reference/css/ If you willing to read a bit you could learn everything you need to create a site here: http://www.w3schools.com/css/ I seldom do weddings anymore, I can earn more money in less time without any grief by design a brochure or a websiteits a crappy way to earn a living, probally only that much worse than baby pics And I don't have to keep explaining that its not my lens that makes her look fat anymore... When you shot weddings on film did you normally give them the negs as well? PN Stenquist wrote: Thanks again. What does css mean? My contracts state that all photos become the property of the bride and groom, but I retain the right to use them in my portfolio and for advertising. A lot of the local wedding photographers work that way. It's less messy. You charge an initial package price, then turn over responsibility to the couple. Sometimes they still come back for additional prints, but it's the upfront charges that make it all profitable. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - by any other name
PN Stenquist wrote: What Derby said. I love the tonality. Paul thanks Paul and Derby. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Two for Frank
The first one is , again, a goo use of fish eye Rick,. The second one, i feel anyway, would be better if the train was not there, just the tracks, station and pillars, would look nioce. Dave On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The MetroLink rail system runs from East St. Louis, across the Mississippi River, through St. Louis and out to Lambert Airport, with a spur to the western suburb of Shrewsbury. It is an excellent service, and crowded even on a Saturday. It is mostly above ground, but has occasional tunnels or tunnel-like stations in cuts: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8317464size=lg (K10D, (guess which lens?), ISO 1600, f/3.5 @ 1/15, RAW via LR2) Downtown, the line uses old brick railroad tunnels from the 1850s (IIRC), then an old railroad viaduct beneath a highway bridge across the river: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8317519size=lg (K10D, DA 50-200, ISO 400, f/4.5 @ 1/90, RAW via LR2) Unfortunately the transit authority decided to build the spur to Shrewsbury with borrowed money, without waiting for Federal and state grants, and the system is in financial distress. Sigh. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Silly rhymes
An Oxfordshire shooter was vexed By what to do with his LX Had it covered in lark's hide Then he went to the dark side He'll be shooting with Leica gear next! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Two for Frank
Rick, Interesting pictures, I didn't know St.Louis had a rail line. The first is clean and I like the people in the transit car. It's an inviting picture. The second is my favorite however. The repeated pattern of the columns and the perspective are very nice. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The MetroLink rail system runs from East St. Louis, across the Mississippi River, through St. Louis and out to Lambert Airport, with a spur to the western suburb of Shrewsbury. It is an excellent service, and crowded even on a Saturday. It is mostly above ground, but has occasional tunnels or tunnel-like stations in cuts: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8317464size=lg (K10D, (guess which lens?), ISO 1600, f/3.5 @ 1/15, RAW via LR2) Downtown, the line uses old brick railroad tunnels from the 1850s (IIRC), then an old railroad viaduct beneath a highway bridge across the river: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8317519size=lg (K10D, DA 50-200, ISO 400, f/4.5 @ 1/90, RAW via LR2) Unfortunately the transit authority decided to build the spur to Shrewsbury with borrowed money, without waiting for Federal and state grants, and the system is in financial distress. Sigh. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Wedding Photography Website
Thanks Feroze. Very helpful. I rarely shot weddings on film, but I did turn over the negs a couple of times. It was just too much hassle to try to manage orders. But that was many years ago, and I shot very few of them. I don't plan on doing many weddings. My main occupation is advertising copywriting, but work is scarce in Detroit these days, so I hope to do some weddings and virtual reality panos to fill in the gaps. However, I'm looking to relocate and take on a new full-rime ad job, so my wedding photography business may be short lived. But building the sites is educating me a bit. In the meantime, I'm working on the Dreamweaver tutorial and hope to advance my web skills. My advertising website, at http://www.paulnstenquist.com, is sorely in need of repairs and updates. But the person who created it is no longer available to fix it. It was built with Dreamweaver, so I'm hoping that after I get up to speed with that software I can download the site components and fix it. Paul On Dec 3, 2008, at 8:59 AM, Feroze wrote: CSS=cascading style sheets, think of your web page as those Babushka dolls, each layer wrapped around the next layer, css its a way to separate content and markup, so if you wanted to change the colour or appearance of the site you'd only change the style sheet and the changes would happen through the site, you could makeover a 10 000 page website by editing one style sheet Yours is here: http://web.me.com/pnstenquist/wedding_photography/Photos_files/Photos.css basic : http://htmlhelp.com/reference/css/ If you willing to read a bit you could learn everything you need to create a site here: http://www.w3schools.com/css/ I seldom do weddings anymore, I can earn more money in less time without any grief by design a brochure or a websiteits a crappy way to earn a living, probally only that much worse than baby pics And I don't have to keep explaining that its not my lens that makes her look fat anymore... When you shot weddings on film did you normally give them the negs as well? PN Stenquist wrote: Thanks again. What does css mean? My contracts state that all photos become the property of the bride and groom, but I retain the right to use them in my portfolio and for advertising. A lot of the local wedding photographers work that way. It's less messy. You charge an initial package price, then turn over responsibility to the couple. Sometimes they still come back for additional prints, but it's the upfront charges that make it all profitable. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Silly rhymes
On 12/3/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An Oxfordshire shooter was vexed By what to do with his LX Had it covered in lark's hide Then he went to the dark side He'll be shooting with Leica gear next! Once a teacher who warned against trash He beseached them to preserve their cache But they've all gone astray And I'm sorry to say Every one of them's installing Flash -- Scott Loveless New Cumberland, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Completely and totally OT
frank theriault wrote: On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I've even tried resuscitating it by blowing on the mouse. Was it good for the mouse? :-0 cheers, frank ON the mouse, frank, ON the mouse. Those two letters make a big difference... :-) -- Christian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Wildlife
Bondage with bambi? Marco Alpert wrote: Don't usually do nature stuff, but couldn't resist: http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo07/peso7.html Comments, as always, welcomed. -Marco --- Web: http://www.alpert.com/marco Blog: http://citizenkoan.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Silly rhymes
There was a young poet called Ann Who once dropped her pen in the can She muttered some curses, Rebelled against verses, As finding the pen was so taxing. (Damn -- you guys had to start this just when I had to dash out the door this morning... almost as good as a pun thread) ann Mark Roberts wrote: An Oxfordshire shooter was vexed By what to do with his LX Had it covered in lark's hide Then he went to the dark side He'll be shooting with Leica gear next! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Blank White Metering
Cotty wrote: That should be as you normally would. If you try to do it as you normally wood. you'll be barking up the wrong tree. There is a grain of truth in what you say. Is this knot true? Who wood question it? I'm not sure I like the timbre of your questions. Cane we branch out from this nonsense? Yew better be careful. Oak-a -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Wildlife
Isn't the concrete tough on your bridgework? Bob W wrote: Delicious. Ate a couple of those this weekend. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marco Alpert Sent: 01 December 2008 05:58 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - Wildlife Don't usually do nature stuff, but couldn't resist: http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo07/peso7.html Comments, as always, welcomed. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - by any other name
In a message dated 12/2/2008 8:06:58 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Frank suggested I post this: http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=788 enjoy = Very nice. I also like the nine weird things about me. Marnie aka Doe :-) Makes me want to do it. - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Silly rhymes
In a message dated 12/3/2008 1:08:26 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When middle-aged men get cometitive It soon becomes dull and repetitive Because the old-timers Now have Alzheimers And that's why they're both so forgetitive Bob = Heheheheh. Another take on grouchy old men, I see. Heh. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Wedding Photography Website
You may want to restate that in such a way that you specify that you retain the copyright but are granting them unlimited reproduction rights for their personal use. You might also include that by signing the contract they are also providing you with a model release. Who knows, some day you may want to write an article with some of your clients' images as illustrations... -p PN Stenquist wrote: Thanks again. What does css mean? My contracts state that all photos become the property of the bride and groom, but I retain the right to use them in my portfolio and for advertising. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESOs: Holga WPC 120 and Tetris
David Savage wrote: 2008/12/1 Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Now there's a bit o'slang from down under I've not heard before. Laneways. Not an Aussie term, it's a proper' English name for a narrow road or access/service road. The Poms use the term more than us. You're kidding me. That's the first time I've ever seen that word. But then again, I did grow up in the USA and I don't get out very much it's true ;-) I've never heard it called a laneway either. It's an alley, snicket or ginnel. Lanes are in the country, not the town. Well WTF do I know, I'm just a poor dumb colonial boy. :-D In around this suburb the laneways are what run in the back of certain older blocks. They were there to service the thunderboxes: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/thunderbox Cheers, Dave At least you Aussies had boxes, we had to make do with jugs. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Wedding Photography Website
CSS = cascade style sheet HTML is the data, CSS is how they look... (it is recomended to separate data and design in web page). HTML is filled in by author, CSS is usually made by web page designer (or template maker). It is not that hard to make your own CSS but there are many problems with different browsers. Unfortunately... But if you want to make your own I suggest reading w3schools: http://www.w3schools.com/CSS/ Hope this helps... Merlin On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 1:17 PM, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks again. What does css mean? My contracts state that all photos become the property of the bride and groom, but I retain the right to use them in my portfolio and for advertising. A lot of the local wedding photographers work that way. It's less messy. You charge an initial package price, then turn over responsibility to the couple. Sometimes they still come back for additional prints, but it's the upfront charges that make it all profitable. Paul On Dec 3, 2008, at 7:23 AM, Feroze wrote: I don't know how copyright works over on that side of the pond, but here in SA the copyright to the photo still belongs to the photographer unless the contract states otherwise. I'm a full time graphic designer and have had people pitch up for an interview with work that I've designed in their portfolio, people tend to pull off good shots from other sites to use as there's and some of the shots I saw looked pretty good, tempting to someone trying to boost their own portfolio. Templates are fine if your just starting to learn css which is pretty powerful if used correctly, but remember that the templates are available to many others as well. It would be easier for me to show you lightbox in use here: www.fahmphotography.com/tlc1.htm PN Stenquist wrote: Thanks for the help Feroze. I didn't know I was encouraging downloads, but it doesn't really matter if someone does download the photos. All my packages come with a full set of hi-res files, and all of these are from weddings that are paid in full. I'm technically ignorant when it comes to the web. I used iWeb to build the site using templates. What is lightbox? On Dec 3, 2008, at 6:23 AM, Feroze wrote: Your site uses css so theres no limit to the type of editing you want to do. The pics load pretty slow for me and I'm on a adsl line. Perhaps its gallery script you using, have you tried lightbox? Why are you encouraging downloads? PN Stenquist wrote: i put together a wedding photography website. Since I'm clueless in HTML, I used iWeb and templates. That's limiting, but at least i'm up and running. It's a bit pretentious, but so are young Michigan brides:-). Any feedback is welcome. It's here: http://www.paulstenquist.com I also set up a page on weddingwire.com that links to my site. Wedding wire is an online catalog of wedding vendors. My page is here: http://www.weddingwire.com/biz/paul-stenquist-photography-bloomfield-hills/45bfca615e0ee586.html Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 2008/11/30 05:53 PM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.13/1825 - Release Date: 2008/12/02 08:44 PM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO x2 - From My Archives
You can always borrow a FF Canon an adapter and do a bit of surgery on the lens. It would only be a little more crippled when if and when the Pentax FF camera comes out than it is now. Anthony Farr wrote: Thanks Bob. I loved the M24~35 for film but I suspect its glory days are gone. As a lens for cropped format its angles of view would be a bit ordinary. Keeping it in the hope of a 24mm X 36mm Pentax DSLR might not work out so well as it has a rather small exit pupil which goes against the current thinking WRT telecentric optical design, besides which it has no A position. OTOH it may be one of those rare lenses that performs as well on a DSLR as it did on a film SLR. We won't know until/unless a digital 24 x 36 Pentax arrives. Regards, Anthony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: Monday, 1 December 2008 7:39 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: PESO x2 - From My Archives Very nice. That 24-35mm lens is a little gem. I still have one for my MX. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Wedding Photography Website
Dreamweaver is hardly the best software for creating websites, it tends to bloat the html code with garbage, larger page sizes makes for inefficient page loads. You can edit your site with any html editor, even notepad. The most used style now to XHTML, css, js and for the future wml (wireless). Download the trial version of MS Expressions, I know its a MS product but it actually works, and if you can use MS word you can use expressions. You can hit me up anytime if you need some help with coding and stuff I've been watching this msnbc (I think) and it seems that anyone even remotely related to the motor industry is having a hard time, they interviewed the CEO of GM yesterday and he stated that if they fail it would directly or indirectly affect 3 million people...scary stuff PN Stenquist wrote: Thanks Feroze. Very helpful. I rarely shot weddings on film, but I did turn over the negs a couple of times. It was just too much hassle to try to manage orders. But that was many years ago, and I shot very few of them. I don't plan on doing many weddings. My main occupation is advertising copywriting, but work is scarce in Detroit these days, so I hope to do some weddings and virtual reality panos to fill in the gaps. However, I'm looking to relocate and take on a new full-rime ad job, so my wedding photography business may be short lived. But building the sites is educating me a bit. In the meantime, I'm working on the Dreamweaver tutorial and hope to advance my web skills. My advertising website, at http://www.paulnstenquist.com, is sorely in need of repairs and updates. But the person who created it is no longer available to fix it. It was built with Dreamweaver, so I'm hoping that after I get up to speed with that software I can download the site components and fix it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO -- Beach Grass
The reason: My eye was attracted by the specular highlights from the interaction of the waves and the grass. So I took a number of varying exposures to try and capture them. The result: Not a single image has those highlights, nor do they seem to be recoverable by any manipulation in the Raw converter or Photoshop. Still this image has a bit of interest. Well I like it anyway. http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20beachgrass.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax F 70-210mm f3.8-5.6 Additional Bonus Rant: This image also shows the hazards of resizing for the web. The Pentax F 70-210 is very sharp and captures more detail than the 6mp sensor in the *ist-D[x] cameras can record, yet in the web photo everything looks a bit blurred. True there was a bit of wind moving the grass, but some was stationary and very sharp in the full size image, here none of it is. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Wedding Photography Website
On 12/3/08, Feroze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your site uses css so theres no limit to the type of editing you want to do. The pics load pretty slow for me and I'm on a adsl line. Perhaps its gallery script you using, have you tried lightbox? Take a look at the page source. Paul's site is making use of at least 3 style sheets. I imagine the slow downloads, which I also experienced, are due to bandwidth limits imposed by the web host. -- Scott Loveless New Cumberland, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Have a Nice Night
I'm glad someone got that, I saw it and was not in a position to set up for a photo. Very nice by the way. David Savage wrote: G'day All, An on topic shot for a change. Jupiter, Venus the moon all came together in an interesting alignment this evening (~70kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3286/3074711816_31c81a41d8_o.jpg K20D, FA* 300mm f4.5, 2 seconds @ f4.5, ISO 400. Cheers, Dave PS (Warning: Nikon content) And for those of you heading into the winter blues period, here is what my weekend looked like: Day's End Over Grey http://flickr.com/photos/disavage/3074663870/ Direct link (~500kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3068/3074663870_1355bed76f_o.jpg 27 frame, 360°, hand-held panorama. Pinnacles http://flickr.com/photos/disavage/3071174906/ Direct link (~1.9MB) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3050/3071174906_d641ee6778_o.jpg 8 frame, hand-held panorama And I have the sunburnt legs to go with it :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Have a Nice Night
Did you notice that in the Pinnacles shot with five people you managed to capture two photographers? David Savage wrote: G'day All, An on topic shot for a change. Jupiter, Venus the moon all came together in an interesting alignment this evening (~70kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3286/3074711816_31c81a41d8_o.jpg K20D, FA* 300mm f4.5, 2 seconds @ f4.5, ISO 400. Cheers, Dave PS (Warning: Nikon content) And for those of you heading into the winter blues period, here is what my weekend looked like: Day's End Over Grey http://flickr.com/photos/disavage/3074663870/ Direct link (~500kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3068/3074663870_1355bed76f_o.jpg 27 frame, 360°, hand-held panorama. Pinnacles http://flickr.com/photos/disavage/3071174906/ Direct link (~1.9MB) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3050/3071174906_d641ee6778_o.jpg 8 frame, hand-held panorama And I have the sunburnt legs to go with it :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Have a Nice Night
I must correct myself, 6 people 4 photographers... David Savage wrote: G'day All, An on topic shot for a change. Jupiter, Venus the moon all came together in an interesting alignment this evening (~70kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3286/3074711816_31c81a41d8_o.jpg K20D, FA* 300mm f4.5, 2 seconds @ f4.5, ISO 400. Cheers, Dave PS (Warning: Nikon content) And for those of you heading into the winter blues period, here is what my weekend looked like: Day's End Over Grey http://flickr.com/photos/disavage/3074663870/ Direct link (~500kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3068/3074663870_1355bed76f_o.jpg 27 frame, 360°, hand-held panorama. Pinnacles http://flickr.com/photos/disavage/3071174906/ Direct link (~1.9MB) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3050/3071174906_d641ee6778_o.jpg 8 frame, hand-held panorama And I have the sunburnt legs to go with it :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Union Station Grand Hall
The government managed to kill high speed passenger rail before it was known as that, and taxed passenger rail traffic to subsidize airport construction as well. Funny how we expect government solutions to be good these days. I believe by current progressive thinking these decisions were bad. Rick Womer wrote: Thanks, Brian. Passenger railroads almost disappeared in the US with commercial aviation and the interstate highway system in the 1950s and 1960s. Spending 18-24 hours on a train from St. Louis to New York lost its appeal when one could fly there in 2-3 hours; and taking a train a couple of hours north to Chicago could not compete with driving one's own car. So, by 1970 there were only 3 trains a day through Union Station, and it was too expensive to maintain for that amount of traffic. The only places passenger rail is in half-decent shape in the US (which is only quarter-decent, by European standards) is in the Northeast Corridor from Boston to Washington DC, around Chicago, and on the California coast. Rick Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Mon, 12/1/08, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great image - wonderful architecture. I'd love to see a photo of that hall back in its heyday. (How can a station that catered for 100,000 passengers daily end up being abandoned? Ending up as a shopping mall seems a sad end but better than demolition, I suppose.) Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 13:28:47 -0800 (PST), Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I left Denver last month and traveled to St. Louis, where I had a day of shooting while my wife toiled. This is the Grand Hall of Union Station. The station is a huge and glorious structure, built in the 1890s and once the largest and busiest railroad station in the U.S. In the 1930s and 1940s it served 400 trains and 100,000 passengers daily. Abandoned in the 1970s, it was restored in the 1980s as hotels, convention center, and shopping mall. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8317483size=lg K10D, DA 10-17 fisheye, ISO 800, f/3.5 @ 1/20, handheld, RAW via LR2. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Wedding Photography Website
In a message dated 12/3/2008 8:24:13 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been watching this msnbc (I think) and it seems that anyone even remotely related to the motor industry is having a hard time, they interviewed the CEO of GM yesterday and he stated that if they fail it would directly or indirectly affect 3 million people...scary stuff = Yes, 10 million unemployed. We don't need any more. Very scary. Marnie - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Journalistic Ethics and Photography
John Francis wrote: On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 06:02:35PM -0500, PN Stenquist wrote: Editorializing by photo isn't a new concept, but it's ugly journalism. It has nothing to do with facts or positions. It's just an attempt to discredit by virtue of appearances. Only if, as you apparently do, you assume it will always be negative. I'd suggest that editorializing by photo is why you hardly ever see a photograph of President (Franklin) Roosevelt in a wheelchair. Actually that was enforced by the secret service at times. I don't think that Roosevelt liked being seen as a cripple. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: You Gotta Have Clearance
http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/clearance.htm Note that I don't like the angle on this. OTOH, it would be very hard to get a better angle. It's on a freeway off pass -- no sidewalk, no nearby sidewalk to walk from, busy streets, no space along the sides of any of the intersecting roads. I could go off the freeway again and again and hope I end up the right number of cars back (at the stop light) to get a better angle. But that's a lot of work to get in just the right spot, and even then I might not. There will be more shots of these types of things, but I still sort of liked this one. Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Memories of Summer
sSpock37.40 to be precise/spock frank theriault wrote: On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couldn't be a more definitive example. Well chosen and rendered. Today is bright and completely still with a forecast of 65F. (A crisp 62F now-11:22AM) Always like to keep you current as to our weather, Frank. Like you to know how we are all suffering. snicker Thanks for the update, Jack! ;-) I took this with one of my favourite 35mm film zooms, the Vivitar Series 1 f3.8 constant aperture 24-48mm. It's big, heavy but has very low distortion at all focal lengths. Problem is that it's very hard to focus without the usual focusing aids on manual focus cameras (split screen or microprism). And, as I discovered from a few very blurry shots from a couple of weeks ago, focuses beyond infinity (which I suppose is better than never getting to infinity!). So it's really lousy street lens, but for situations where one has the time to be deliberate, it's a beauty. As for the weather, well, I really don't mind the nice cold, white winters I had as a kid in Montreal, but Toronto (while it does get snow) is generally grey, wet and dismal from mid-November to about March. I've learned to live with it, except when I'm cycling. As we speak (type?) it's +3 Celsius (maybe 38F?) and drizzling - quite dreary! It's not going to be a fun ride home, but at least I can tell myself that it's not pouring! :-) Thanks for the comment. cheers, frank -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Beach Grass
In a message dated 12/3/2008 9:00:06 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reason: My eye was attracted by the specular highlights from the interaction of the waves and the grass. So I took a number of varying exposures to try and capture them. The result: Not a single image has those highlights, nor do they seem to be recoverable by any manipulation in the Raw converter or Photoshop. Still this image has a bit of interest. Well I like it anyway. http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20beachgrass.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax F 70-210mm f3.8-5.6 Additional Bonus Rant: This image also shows the hazards of resizing for the web. The Pentax F 70-210 is very sharp and captures more detail than the 6mp sensor in the *ist-D[x] cameras can record, yet in the web photo everything looks a bit blurred. True there was a bit of wind moving the grass, but some was stationary and very sharp in the full size image, here none of it is. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. === It's pleasant, Peter. With nice spacing and lines. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: DA 12-24 in action
In a message dated 12/2/2008 11:13:40 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's a shot of a drag car passenger cabin. It's the Dodge Challenger factory SS car that I shot last month. It's at ISO400, f4.5, 1/750th and 12mm. The focus is on the steering wheel. I needed f4.5 to be able to light the black interior with the 540 and lightsphere diffuser. I needed 1/750th to keep the background from burning out. There's some Moire (sp?) patterning on the window net and the seat belt fabric, but I think that's a function of the lighting rather than the lens. This is the full frame. At 100% the seams on the steering wheel wrap are sharp. The lens has returned a lot of good results for me. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8335606size=lg === I don't usually comment on car shots (you may have noticed :-)). Not my thing. But that's nice -- the way the whole interior is caught. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Wedding Photography Website
In a message dated 12/3/2008 8:12:46 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.w3schools.com/CSS/ Hope this helps... Merlin === I used them for learning CSS. Agreed, best around. Marnie :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off topic rant
Thank you everyone who replied. The last thing I wanted was to bring the terrorism argument here. If you think it is worth further discussion - then be sure to contact off list. OTOH, even if there were attack planned but only carefully placed information trigger, the damage was done, and significant damage at that. It never happens that average speed of my car (according to trip computer of two toyota corollas and (current) kia cee'd) shown a figure about 33 km/h. I say this is pathetic. I appear to be in a state of severe lack of sleep. *sad sigh* Boris Boris Liberman wrote: Rant begins. I work in Tel Aviv for 10 years with some interruptions. Today was the absolutely worst morning of them all. I overslept and missed my regular train at 6:55am so that I decided to drive by car. There was a terrorist attack alert in Tel Aviv and they placed great many block posts on the way. At approximately 8:30, having seen the trip computer of my car showing average speed of 3 km/h, and not reached even half the way, I had to turn back. On 9:15am the train departed from my local station so that at about right now (10am) I have arrived to my office. It is customary to work for 10 hours every day plus I will need about an hour to get back (by train) tonight. I feel wasted. Rant ends. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Wedding Photography Website
10 million in Detroit? OMG, the population of the whole of South Africa is 46 million [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/3/2008 8:24:13 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been watching this msnbc (I think) and it seems that anyone even remotely related to the motor industry is having a hard time, they interviewed the CEO of GM yesterday and he stated that if they fail it would directly or indirectly affect 3 million people...scary stuff = Yes, 10 million unemployed. We don't need any more. Very scary. Marnie - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.13/1825 - Release Date: 2008/12/02 08:44 PM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Collateral Damage
http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/damage.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Beach Grass
I like the consistent repetitive curves of the longer grass against the water. Otherwise, it's sort of tangled and disorganized nearer the foreground. Also, that OOF growth (?) at the center bottom of the frame doesn't add. Looks chilly and breezy. Jack Jack --- On Wed, 12/3/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO -- Beach Grass To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 8:54 AM The reason: My eye was attracted by the specular highlights from the interaction of the waves and the grass. So I took a number of varying exposures to try and capture them. The result: Not a single image has those highlights, nor do they seem to be recoverable by any manipulation in the Raw converter or Photoshop. Still this image has a bit of interest. Well I like it anyway. http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20beachgrass.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax F 70-210mm f3.8-5.6 Additional Bonus Rant: This image also shows the hazards of resizing for the web. The Pentax F 70-210 is very sharp and captures more detail than the 6mp sensor in the *ist-D[x] cameras can record, yet in the web photo everything looks a bit blurred. True there was a bit of wind moving the grass, but some was stationary and very sharp in the full size image, here none of it is. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Bullfighting images
Thanks Jim! Some excellent photos in there, and the emotional impact is strong. G On Dec 2, 2008, at 6:42 PM, Jim King wrote: http://www.chicosanchez.com/bullfighting/ I think that these images tell an interesting story and are worth sharing. I'm not a fan of bullfighting, but those who practice it seem very dedicated. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Thinking in the Temple....
The composition is nice, but you need to lighten the temple and keep the sky about the same. I made a custom curve in Photoshop that does that. I'm sure you can do better from the original than I can from your posted version. drew wrote: Hi all, I would value opinions on this picture... http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3044/3075035376_b6aa846552_o.jpg Thanks all, Drew. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Memories of Summer
Celsius? J --- On Wed, 12/3/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO - Memories of Summer To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 9:49 AM sSpock37.40 to be precise/spock frank theriault wrote: On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couldn't be a more definitive example. Well chosen and rendered. Today is bright and completely still with a forecast of 65F. (A crisp 62F now-11:22AM) Always like to keep you current as to our weather, Frank. Like you to know how we are all suffering. snicker Thanks for the update, Jack! ;-) I took this with one of my favourite 35mm film zooms, the Vivitar Series 1 f3.8 constant aperture 24-48mm. It's big, heavy but has very low distortion at all focal lengths. Problem is that it's very hard to focus without the usual focusing aids on manual focus cameras (split screen or microprism). And, as I discovered from a few very blurry shots from a couple of weeks ago, focuses beyond infinity (which I suppose is better than never getting to infinity!). So it's really lousy street lens, but for situations where one has the time to be deliberate, it's a beauty. As for the weather, well, I really don't mind the nice cold, white winters I had as a kid in Montreal, but Toronto (while it does get snow) is generally grey, wet and dismal from mid-November to about March. I've learned to live with it, except when I'm cycling. As we speak (type?) it's +3 Celsius (maybe 38F?) and drizzling - quite dreary! It's not going to be a fun ride home, but at least I can tell myself that it's not pouring! :-) Thanks for the comment. cheers, frank -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Wedding Photography Website
In a message dated 12/3/2008 10:10:28 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 10 million in Detroit? OMG, the population of the whole of South Africa is 46 million [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/3/2008 8:24:13 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been watching this msnbc (I think) and it seems that anyone even remotely related to the motor industry is having a hard time, they interviewed the CEO of GM yesterday and he stated that if they fail it would directly or indirectly affect 3 million people...scary stuff = Yes, 10 million unemployed. We don't need any more. Very scary. Marnie == 10 million currently unemployed nationally -- all across the US. (Posted this the other day in another thread -- it comes from government figures). So if they go belly up, that would be another 3 million. As you said, scary. Marnie :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
High Tech Angle
Just had to do a quick note on my short trip to the store for a couple of Christmas decorations. Was looking for a more fitting item for the top of the tree 'til I came across something that turned me around. Prominently perched on a shelf, all glittery and tensely, was a FIBER OPTIC ANGLE. I can't go on..sigh Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: High Tech Angle
Jack Davis wrote: Just had to do a quick note on my short trip to the store for a couple of Christmas decorations. Was looking for a more fitting item for the top of the tree 'til I came across something that turned me around. Prominently perched on a shelf, all glittery and tensely, was a FIBER OPTIC ANGLE. I can't go on..sigh Jack oh, you're just being obtuse. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Progress never stands still - is this the next sensor design?
Just below Samuel Adams Joseph McAllister Pentaxian On Dec 3, 2008, at 02:56 , Boris Liberman wrote: Heineken, *probably* the best beer in the world... On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cheaper, sharper, better? Or pie in the sky? http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/multimedia/2008/12/gallery_photodet ector?slide=1slideView=1 or tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/5hj7ym I hope that Sigma doesn't get a hold of it and do another Foveon :-( Regards, Anthony -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Thinking in the Temple....
Actually there is a fare amount of interest in the sky. Rather than posting my attempt I'll e-mail it to you if you'd like. There's a bit more detail in the temple, and a bit more, (very subtle), detail in the clouds,. I think I could do even better with some selective masking of the shadows in the trees and foreground, but it's your shot, I don't have enough time to do that for my own stuff. drew wrote: Thanks Rick and Bob... This is in the garden of Petworth House in West Sussex... http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/main/w-vh/w-visits/w-findaplace/w-petworthhouse/ A great place if you visiting the south of England. I did have a bit of a play with the sky to bring out what I could but there really isn't much there barring a con trail, here's the original: http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/lh/photo/105Wg2gtYB5C3-6lf4Hcdg Cheers, Drew. Rick Womer wrote: Brian, Initially my reaction was ho-hum, but the shot grew on me as I spent more time with it. The man's pose is not particularly contemplative, though I doubt you had any control over that. I think it might be good to darken the sky a bit to bring out some of the drama in the clouds I think I see (maybe use the digital equivalent of a yellow filter?). Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Mon, 12/1/08, drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Thinking in the Temple To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 3:40 PM Hi all, I would value opinions on this picture... http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3044/3075035376_b6aa846552_o.jpg Thanks all, Drew. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Journalistic Ethics and Photography
In a message dated 12/3/2008 9:46:15 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Francis wrote: On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 06:02:35PM -0500, PN Stenquist wrote: Editorializing by photo isn't a new concept, but it's ugly journalism. It has nothing to do with facts or positions. It's just an attempt to discredit by virtue of appearances. Only if, as you apparently do, you assume it will always be negative. I'd suggest that editorializing by photo is why you hardly ever see a photograph of President (Franklin) Roosevelt in a wheelchair. Actually that was enforced by the secret service at times. I don't think that Roosevelt liked being seen as a cripple. I've read/heard that they felt there might be lack of confidence in him as president as a result. Tough times (depression/war) and if he was seen as a cripple people might think he couldn't handle it. Marnie - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Collateral Damage
On Dec 3, 2008, at 10:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/damage.htm Intense. This is turning into a fine if somewhat sad documentarian series, Marnie! G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: High Tech Angle
On 12/3/08, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Just had to do a quick note on my short trip to the store for a couple of Christmas decorations. Was looking for a more fitting item for the top of the tree 'til I came across something that turned me around. Prominently perched on a shelf, all glittery and tensely, was a FIBER OPTIC ANGLE. I can't go on..sigh Jack oh, you're just being obtuse. Don't be a square, Doug. What Jack saw was a very shiny sin. -- Scott Loveless New Cumberland, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Wedding Photography Website
dreamweaver, its a nightmare. and 14 javascripts btw, I'd love to meet the designer :) Scott Loveless wrote: On 12/3/08, Feroze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your site uses css so theres no limit to the type of editing you want to do. The pics load pretty slow for me and I'm on a adsl line. Perhaps its gallery script you using, have you tried lightbox? Take a look at the page source. Paul's site is making use of at least 3 style sheets. I imagine the slow downloads, which I also experienced, are due to bandwidth limits imposed by the web host. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.13/1825 - Release Date: 2008/12/02 08:44 PM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Collateral Damage
In a message dated 12/3/2008 10:49:03 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Dec 3, 2008, at 10:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/damage.htm Intense. This is turning into a fine if somewhat sad documentarian series, Marnie! G Thanks, Godfrey! Well, it's far from done, but I feel I am starting to get there. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Journalistic Ethics and Photography
You're wrong John, it was done under false pretenses. McCain went there for a cover photograph, an honest image of his physical appearance. If he had know the use his image would have been put to he would never have agreed. This is a form of contract. A lack of agreement means no contract is in force. The magazine was blindsided, and so was McCain. If he didn't fall under the category of celebrity he would have a good case for slander John Sessoms wrote: Greenberg didn't hog-tie McCain and force him to pose. He agreed to do it, and the image submitted for the magazine cover is conventionally flattering. Whether Greenberg is a McCain supporter or not is immaterial. There's quite a few famous photographers shooting fluff puff celebrity portraits whose work doesn't impress me AT ALL. Pre-paid paparazzi working from inside the publicity apparatus is all they are; no better than the window peepers they look down on. There's not even enough for a tempest in a teapot there as far as I'm concerned. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: High Tech Angle
Doug Brewer wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Just had to do a quick note on my short trip to the store for a couple of Christmas decorations. Was looking for a more fitting item for the top of the tree 'til I came across something that turned me around. Prominently perched on a shelf, all glittery and tensely, was a FIBER OPTIC ANGLE. I can't go on..sigh oh, you're just being obtuse. Is an optic angle something for contact lens wearers? You know, some sort of scalene solution? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Blank White Metering
John Sessoms wrote: From: John Graves The list has done it. I have been looking at all the fantastic Black white photos and have had trouble with drool. (Anybody want to purchase a slightly damp keyboard?)I would like to try some BW. Do I whip out my Gossen and open up 3 stops from white? Is this something I can do in Raw Processing? (Or should do?) For the moment, I am sticking with PSE 3 but have kept Raw as up-to-date as I can. Are these workable for processing. Or do I buy a roll of Tri-X and a new bottle of Rodinol? Yes. I think I'd go for HC110. The amount of film I use these days the developer will die before I use it unless it has an extremely long shelf life. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - NPR's Car was bombed today
If they don't want the party in power to mess with them they shouldn't take any Government money. On the other hand the I don't think lack of Government money will keep organizations and individuals from being messed with by bureaucrats for much longer, mores the pity. John Sessoms wrote: From: David Mann I'd never heard of NPR until recently when I saw a couple of links to some very good shows about the origins of the financial crisis. Since then I've been following their Planet Money blog. We just don't seem to get much decent journalism in this country. And that country would be? NPR in the U.S. is not in quite the same league as the BBC or CBC. For one thing, they aren't actually a NATIONAL Public Radio. They get minuscule tax support, although the government in power does get to name their CEO and board and interfere in their operations if they don't toe the approved party line. Other than that, they're dependent on corporate donations and quarterly beg-a-thons, so they won't go TOO far, lest they offend their corporate masters. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO:Moon, Jupiter, and Venus
Everyone made a big deal about it being a smiley in the southern hemisphere... Walter Hamler wrote: From the northern hemisphere this time. If you compare this shot with David's from Aussie land, you will see something different. Anyone care to guess? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/IMGP0734web.jpg Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: High Tech Angle
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: High Tech Angle On 12/3/08, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Just had to do a quick note on my short trip to the store for a couple of Christmas decorations. Was looking for a more fitting item for the top of the tree 'til I came across something that turned me around. Prominently perched on a shelf, all glittery and tensely, was a FIBER OPTIC ANGLE. I can't go on..sigh Jack oh, you're just being obtuse. Don't be a square, Doug. What Jack saw was a very shiny sin. Now wait a minute... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Blank White Metering
On 12/3/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Sessoms wrote: From: John Graves The list has done it. I have been looking at all the fantastic Black white photos and have had trouble with drool. (Anybody want to purchase a slightly damp keyboard?)I would like to try some BW. Do I whip out my Gossen and open up 3 stops from white? Is this something I can do in Raw Processing? (Or should do?) For the moment, I am sticking with PSE 3 but have kept Raw as up-to-date as I can. Are these workable for processing. Or do I buy a roll of Tri-X and a new bottle of Rodinol? Yes. I think I'd go for HC110. The amount of film I use these days the developer will die before I use it unless it has an extremely long shelf life. While HC-110 certainly has a long shelf life, I doubt it can stand up to Rodinal's reputation. -- Scott Loveless New Cumberland, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Blank White Metering
In a message dated 12/1/2008 10:05:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yup - With PSE closed, go to your PSE program directory and drill down to Plug-Ins File Formats. You'll see a Camera Raw.8bi file. Rename it to something like Camera Raw.8bi.old. Then go to the new Camera Raw Zip file and extract the new Camera Raw.8bi file to the File Formats directory. -p [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/1/2008 6:30:16 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marnie, do you have the latest version of Camera Raw which will work with your PSE 5 installed on your computer (I think it is v 4.6)? It may be able to deal with your Canon RAW files. Check on Adobe's website for downloads and installation instructions. Regards, Jim = Thanks. I found I had probably downloaded the wrong RAW update (for newer versions of Elements and PS, 5.1 or something). So I revisited Adobe, got the 4.5 update, found the PSE 5 plugins/file formats directory, and dumped the update in there. Now PSE 5 will load CR2 (XSi) files just fine. Good, I have CS2, PSE5, and LR1 and that is just fine for now. No need to spend more money on software at this time (and my pocketbook thanks you too). Marnie :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESOs: Holga WPC 120 and Tetris
I whole heartedly concur. Cotty wrote: On 1/12/08, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: Never heard of it. (Back) Lane and alleyway are common. You can leave my backalley out of this. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: High Tech Angle
On 12/3/08, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Just had to do a quick note on my short trip to the store for a couple of Christmas decorations. Was looking for a more fitting item for the top of the tree 'til I came across something that turned me around. Prominently perched on a shelf, all glittery and tensely, was a FIBER OPTIC ANGLE. I can't go on..sigh Jack === Hate to be a party pooper, but like this? http://tinyurl.com/6z8yt9 (I can only take so many puns.) Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: High Tech Angle
Obviously it's a lens attachment for imaging around corners. The military has them! : ) Was it 62mm threaded? Joseph McAllister Pentaxian On Dec 3, 2008, at 10:42 , Doug Brewer wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Just had to do a quick note on my short trip to the store for a couple of Christmas decorations. Was looking for a more fitting item for the top of the tree 'til I came across something that turned me around. Prominently perched on a shelf, all glittery and tensely, was a FIBER OPTIC ANGLE. I can't go on..sigh Jack oh, you're just being obtuse. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Memories of Summer
To include Celsius would have been repetitive. Jack Davis wrote: Celsius? J --- On Wed, 12/3/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO - Memories of Summer To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 9:49 AM sSpock37.40 to be precise/spock frank theriault wrote: On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couldn't be a more definitive example. Well chosen and rendered. Today is bright and completely still with a forecast of 65F. (A crisp 62F now-11:22AM) Always like to keep you current as to our weather, Frank. Like you to know how we are all suffering. snicker Thanks for the update, Jack! ;-) I took this with one of my favourite 35mm film zooms, the Vivitar Series 1 f3.8 constant aperture 24-48mm. It's big, heavy but has very low distortion at all focal lengths. Problem is that it's very hard to focus without the usual focusing aids on manual focus cameras (split screen or microprism). And, as I discovered from a few very blurry shots from a couple of weeks ago, focuses beyond infinity (which I suppose is better than never getting to infinity!). So it's really lousy street lens, but for situations where one has the time to be deliberate, it's a beauty. As for the weather, well, I really don't mind the nice cold, white winters I had as a kid in Montreal, but Toronto (while it does get snow) is generally grey, wet and dismal from mid-November to about March. I've learned to live with it, except when I'm cycling. As we speak (type?) it's +3 Celsius (maybe 38F?) and drizzling - quite dreary! It's not going to be a fun ride home, but at least I can tell myself that it's not pouring! :-) Thanks for the comment. cheers, frank -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: High Tech Angle
Joseph McAllister Pentaxian On Dec 3, 2008, at 11:07 , Ken Waller wrote: - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: High Tech Angle On 12/3/08, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Just had to do a quick note on my short trip to the store for a couple of Christmas decorations. Was looking for a more fitting item for the top of the tree 'til I came across something that turned me around. Prominently perched on a shelf, all glittery and tensely, was a FIBER OPTIC ANGLE. I can't go on..sigh Jack oh, you're just being obtuse. Don't be a square, Doug. What Jack saw was a very shiny sin. Now wait a minute... Baa Dum Bum + cymbal -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Santa's Place
The mall near our house does a very elaborate Santa castle in their atrium. It's about four stories tall and surrounded by a variety of huge and elaborate decorations: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8341897size=lg Way down in the bottom floor of this contraption, Santa holds forth and frightens little children:-). Here he is scaring Grace: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8341931 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: High Tech Angle
It's becoming clear to me now... Tensely = tinselly Angle = Angel Now we're talking high tech Xmas! Joseph McAllister Lots of gear, not much time On Dec 3, 2008, at 11:19 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: all glittery and tensely, was a FIBER OPTIC ANGLE. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: High Tech Angle
Thanks, Doug! ;) Jack --- On Wed, 12/3/08, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: High Tech Angle To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 10:42 AM Jack Davis wrote: Just had to do a quick note on my short trip to the store for a couple of Christmas decorations. Was looking for a more fitting item for the top of the tree 'til I came across something that turned me around. Prominently perched on a shelf, all glittery and tensely, was a FIBER OPTIC ANGLE. I can't go on..sigh Jack oh, you're just being obtuse. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: High Tech Angle
The store had fiber that angled So light on the shelf had not dangled It bounced to the ceiling With bountiful feeling And ended on the floor all mangled John Graves WA1JG Doug Brewer wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Just had to do a quick note on my short trip to the store for a couple of Christmas decorations. Was looking for a more fitting item for the top of the tree 'til I came across something that turned me around. Prominently perched on a shelf, all glittery and tensely, was a FIBER OPTIC ANGLE. I can't go on..sigh Jack oh, you're just being obtuse. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.13/1826 - Release Date: 12/3/2008 9:34 AM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: High Tech Angle
I guess that's the best possibility to explain the angle thing. Du! Jack --- On Wed, 12/3/08, Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: High Tech Angle To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 11:19 AM Obviously it's a lens attachment for imaging around corners. The military has them! : ) Was it 62mm threaded? Joseph McAllister Pentaxian On Dec 3, 2008, at 10:42 , Doug Brewer wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Just had to do a quick note on my short trip to the store for a couple of Christmas decorations. Was looking for a more fitting item for the top of the tree 'til I came across something that turned me around. Prominently perched on a shelf, all glittery and tensely, was a FIBER OPTIC ANGLE. I can't go on..sigh Jack oh, you're just being obtuse. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: High Tech Angle
No, Marnie, that's much too sedate. 'sides, it's spelled correctly. ;) Jack --- On Wed, 12/3/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: High Tech Angle To: pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 11:19 AM On 12/3/08, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Just had to do a quick note on my short trip to the store for a couple of Christmas decorations. Was looking for a more fitting item for the top of the tree 'til I came across something that turned me around. Prominently perched on a shelf, all glittery and tensely, was a FIBER OPTIC ANGLE. I can't go on..sigh Jack === Hate to be a party pooper, but like this? http://tinyurl.com/6z8yt9 (I can only take so many puns.) Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: High Tech Angle
Yeah, Joe. It's pretty sad. HUH? Jack --- On Wed, 12/3/08, Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: High Tech Angle To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 11:31 AM It's becoming clear to me now... Tensely = tinselly Angle = Angel Now we're talking high tech Xmas! Joseph McAllister Lots of gear, not much time On Dec 3, 2008, at 11:19 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: all glittery and tensely, was a FIBER OPTIC ANGLE. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: High Tech Angle
It weren't me what done it. It did leave the store right quickly, however. Jack --- On Wed, 12/3/08, John Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: High Tech Angle To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 11:36 AM The store had fiber that angled So light on the shelf had not dangled It bounced to the ceiling With bountiful feeling And ended on the floor all mangled John Graves WA1JG Doug Brewer wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Just had to do a quick note on my short trip to the store for a couple of Christmas decorations. Was looking for a more fitting item for the top of the tree 'til I came across something that turned me around. Prominently perched on a shelf, all glittery and tensely, was a FIBER OPTIC ANGLE. I can't go on..sigh Jack oh, you're just being obtuse. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.13/1826 - Release Date: 12/3/2008 9:34 AM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: High Tech Angle
Made for those who need lens prisms. Jack --- On Wed, 12/3/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: High Tech Angle To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 10:57 AM Doug Brewer wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Just had to do a quick note on my short trip to the store for a couple of Christmas decorations. Was looking for a more fitting item for the top of the tree 'til I came across something that turned me around. Prominently perched on a shelf, all glittery and tensely, was a FIBER OPTIC ANGLE. I can't go on..sigh oh, you're just being obtuse. Is an optic angle something for contact lens wearers? You know, some sort of scalene solution? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Union Station Grand Hall
Connecticut has a state run railroad, from Old Saybrook to New Haven, (runs on Conrail tracks though). New York, Connecticut and New Jersey jointly sponsor Metro North, I can't remember if it's fully owned or a private company simply subsidized by those three states... Then there's Amtrack which completely mystifies me, and I'm still not sure how Conrail works. Some private passenger rail service used to make money, however what really killed it was inflation. An example from light rail. In 1900 you paid a nickel, (5 cents), for a trolley ride and the wages on average were 22 cents an hour. The average daily wage through inflation in 1920 was 4.75, the price to travel on a trolley was still about 5 cents. Most of these services were regulated and people want something for nothing, so one by one they went bust. Sic transit light rail. The same analysis works for regular rail as well, I just can't find any numbers on line and I don't have my research notes from 30 years ago. John Sessoms wrote: From: Ken Waller The only places passenger rail is in half-decent shape in the US (which is only quarter-decent, by European standards) is in the Northeast Corridor from Boston to Washington DC, around Chicago, and on the California coast. Oh, I don't know about that. Have you ever ridden on the Alaksa Railroad? I've been on it numerous times and have appreciated their on time running and the well maintained, clean stock. I've been told its the only state run RR. North Carolina has a state railroad, along with 2 daily trains between Raleigh and Charlotte supported by the NCDOT. http://www.ncrr.com/ http://www.bytrain.org/passenger/ OURS have bike racks BTW ... http://www.bytrain.org/bikesonboard.html And we're supposed to be getting a third daily run ... http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/stories/2008/06/02/daily28.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Santa's Place
Their outfits sort of clash and she looks a little like she's had enough hugging for the moment, but it's one to save! Jack --- On Wed, 12/3/08, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Santa's Place To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 11:28 AM The mall near our house does a very elaborate Santa castle in their atrium. It's about four stories tall and surrounded by a variety of huge and elaborate decorations: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8341897size=lg Way down in the bottom floor of this contraption, Santa holds forth and frightens little children:-). Here he is scaring Grace: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8341931 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO:Moon, Jupiter, and Venus
There's a time issue. 12 hours is plenty of time for four fast moving, (well relative to each other), bodies to change their alignment with each other. Bong Manayon wrote: Whoa...I'm in the Northern Hemisphere but in the same time zone as David... http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3075353025/ Maybe north-south isn't the thing ... Bong On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But WHY? Curious minds want to know :-) Because you're standing upside down. Here in the southern hemisphere we stand the right way up so get a true perspective on things ;-) Regards, Anthony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walter Hamler Sent: Tuesday, 2 December 2008 11:28 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO:Moon, Jupiter, and Venus But WHY? Curious minds want to know :-) Walt On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, now it's a sad smiley face : ( Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Dec 1, 2008, at 15:36 , Walter Hamler wrote: From the northern hemisphere this time. If you compare this shot with David's from Aussie land, you will see something different. Anyone care to guess? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/IMGP0734web.jpg Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO:Moon, Jupiter, and Venus
It seems that flicker is having a heart attack right now so I can't look at your photo. Bong Manayon wrote: Whoa...I'm in the Northern Hemisphere but in the same time zone as David... http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3075353025/ Maybe north-south isn't the thing ... Bong On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But WHY? Curious minds want to know :-) Because you're standing upside down. Here in the southern hemisphere we stand the right way up so get a true perspective on things ;-) Regards, Anthony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walter Hamler Sent: Tuesday, 2 December 2008 11:28 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO:Moon, Jupiter, and Venus But WHY? Curious minds want to know :-) Walt On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, now it's a sad smiley face : ( Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Dec 1, 2008, at 15:36 , Walter Hamler wrote: From the northern hemisphere this time. If you compare this shot with David's from Aussie land, you will see something different. Anyone care to guess? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/IMGP0734web.jpg Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: High Tech Angle
Look on the bright side, Jack. I bet it was acute angle.. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:39:37 -0800 (PST), Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Just had to do a quick note on my short trip to the store for a couple of Christmas decorations. Was looking for a more fitting item for the top of the tree 'til I came across something that turned me around. Prominently perched on a shelf, all glittery and tensely, was a FIBER OPTIC ANGLE. I can't go on..sigh Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Wedding Photography Website
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Feroze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dreamweaver is hardly the best software for creating websites, it tends to bloat the html code with garbage, larger page sizes makes for inefficient page loads. You can edit your site with any html editor, even notepad. The most used style now to XHTML, css, js and for the future wml (wireless). Actually, the code on Paul's site is pretty light. I've been using Dreamweaver for years and haven't had too many problems with bloated code, although I always use it in the split Design/Code view and mainly use it as a code editor. I find DW much more of a help than a hindrance, although I'd never use it to generate Javascript, and I hate its CSS editor. Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Silly rhymes
On 2/12/08, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: A habit obscene and unsavoury holds the Bishop of Wessex in slavery. With maniacal howls he deflowers young owls which he keeps in an underground aviary. But the prior of Dunstan St. Just, overcome with erotical lust, raped the bishop's prize fowls (his treasured young owls) and a little green lizard, what bust. LOL These are hilarious. Never read them before. The Limerick by Gershon Legman. All (and more than) you could ever imagine. http://www.amazon.com/Limerick-G-Legman/dp/0517139111 Keeping it rude and purple: When the deep purple falls in Kentucky The locals expect to get lucky. With their kith or their kin They know that they're in For long hours of family fucky -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Keeping the Art In
Not sure about this one. I like the idea but there just seem to be too many odd shaped, out of focus distractions. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:25:44 -0800, Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The Sculpture Garden at Felix Kulpa Gallery - Santa Cruz: http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo07/peso8.html Comments, as always, welcomed. And thanks to all who commented on the last one. You'll be relieved to know that we've got the local SPCPA (Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Plaster Animals) on the case. -Marco --- Web: http://www.alpert.com/marco Blog: http://citizenkoan.blogspot.com -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Cricket Haka (was # of PDML Subscribers?)
So you're saying it didn't go straight to hell, but took a scenic side trip? Brian Walters wrote: I'm not quite sure how a thread about the number of PDML subscribers morphed into a discussion of cricket, the number 42 and the Maori haka - but morph it did. Anyway. On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:13:00 -0500, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: IIRC, the image was of someone in a cricket match, and had some element that caused both the comment about the Haka, and the silly leg, but was not actually an image of a Haka. From there the thread wandered off the original topic, as threads are wont to do ... possibly obscure puns in base13. I don't remember. Some of the comments didn't make sense, and I was looking up cricket rules and information to try to figure out the references, when I ran across whatever it was that has/is/was/uses/is divided into 42 parts ... Well, there's Miss Cricket who's 42 years old: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofilefriendID=71732583 Or even 42 images of Cricket: http://www.photograph-london.com/london-scenes/cricket.php But nothing tops the Cricket Haka http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=PuMh6axsAuY Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
