Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CSSelenium

[Lola Harris]

Thanks for the reminder, PT.  Quailwoodherbal also makes a terrific CS for 
anyone whodoesn't make their own.Lola 
- Original Message -
From: PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, 01 May 2015 09:16:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CSSelenium

Quailwoodherbal.com sells Lugol's and it is nice to support people on the 
list.PT

From: Evans, Antonio F. antonio.ev...@va.gov
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:17 PM
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: CSSelenium

Send the website to order Lugol' s Iodine please

-Original Message-From: Lynn [mailto:lynngreene...@gmail.com] Sent: 
Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:14 PMTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSubject: [EXTERNAL] 
Re: CSSeleniumHi there;I drop two drops of Lugol's Solution on my thigh in the 
morning. Bypasses sensitive guts. If it disappears in 4 hours, my body needed 
it badly. In 8 hours, still absorbed, but I can back off a day if I wish. It 
always gets absorbed. I've tried many things - this was cheapest and 
easiest.LynnOn Apr 30, 2015, at 4:39 AM, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi 
Dee, Yes, I tried low-dose Naltrexone for Hashimoto's for a month and 
disappointedly, my body reacted negatively to it. I'm real sensitive to 
synthetic drugs apparently.RaVen   On Apr 30, 2015, at 4:26 AM, Dee 
d...@deetroy.org wrote:  Oh yes it does - which is one of the reasons I 
take it.  Have you tried low-dose Naltrexone for Hashimotos? I have read of 
people having really good results with this.  It is not the ordinary Naltrexone 
it is the low dose form.Dee  Sent from my iPad  On 29 Apr 2015, at 
19:56, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:  Does the sea green supplement you 
take have iodine in it? Cannot ingest that with Hashimoto's.   -- The 
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CSSelenium

[PT Ferrance]

I just tried to go to the website and the domain is for sale.Would you send his 
number?  I would like to get some more of his cs salve.Thanks. 
PT
  From: Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Friday, May 1, 2015 12:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CSSelenium
   
Hi:i talked to Tel a couple weeks back and he said he was mostly out of 
business. i tried to get some nose spray he was out?


On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 9:16 AM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

Quailwoodherbal.com sells Lugol's and it is nice to support people on the 
list.PT
  From: Evans, Antonio F. antonio.ev...@va.gov
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:17 PM
 Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: CSSelenium
   
Send the website to order Lugol' s Iodine please



-Original Message-
From: Lynn [mailto:lynngreene...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:14 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: CSSelenium

Hi there;
I drop two drops of Lugol's Solution on my thigh in the morning. Bypasses 
sensitive guts. If it disappears in 4 hours, my body needed it badly. In 8 
hours, still absorbed, but I can back off a day if I wish. It always gets 
absorbed. I've tried many things - this was cheapest and easiest.
Lynn
On Apr 30, 2015, at 4:39 AM, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Dee,
 Yes, I tried low-dose Naltrexone for Hashimoto's for a month and 
 disappointedly, my body reacted negatively to it. I'm real sensitive to 
 synthetic drugs apparently.  
 
 RaVen
 
 
 On Apr 30, 2015, at 4:26 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
 
 Oh yes it does - which is one of the reasons I take it.  Have you tried 
 low-dose Naltrexone for Hashimotos? I have read of people having really good 
 results with this.  It is not the ordinary Naltrexone it is the low dose 
 form.Dee
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 29 Apr 2015, at 19:56, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Does the sea green supplement you take have iodine in it? Cannot ingest that 
 with Hashimoto's. 
 
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CSSelenium

[Gary Hilt]

Hi:
i talked to Tel a couple weeks back and he said he was mostly out of
business. i tried to get some nose spray he was out?

On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 9:16 AM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Quailwoodherbal.com sells Lugol's and it is nice to support people on the
 list.
 PT
   --
  *From:* Evans, Antonio F. antonio.ev...@va.gov
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:17 PM
 *Subject:* RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: CSSelenium

 Send the website to order Lugol' s Iodine please



 -Original Message-
 From: Lynn [mailto:lynngreene...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:14 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: CSSelenium

 Hi there;
 I drop two drops of Lugol's Solution on my thigh in the morning. Bypasses
 sensitive guts. If it disappears in 4 hours, my body needed it badly. In 8
 hours, still absorbed, but I can back off a day if I wish. It always gets
 absorbed. I've tried many things - this was cheapest and easiest.
 Lynn
 On Apr 30, 2015, at 4:39 AM, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi Dee,
  Yes, I tried low-dose Naltrexone for Hashimoto's for a month and
 disappointedly, my body reacted negatively to it. I'm real sensitive to
 synthetic drugs apparently.
 
  RaVen
 
 
  On Apr 30, 2015, at 4:26 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
 
  Oh yes it does - which is one of the reasons I take it.  Have you tried
 low-dose Naltrexone for Hashimotos? I have read of people having really
 good results with this.  It is not the ordinary Naltrexone it is the low
 dose form.Dee
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On 29 Apr 2015, at 19:56, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Does the sea green supplement you take have iodine in it? Cannot ingest
 that with Hashimoto's.
 
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CSSelenium

[Gary Hilt]

1-505-899-3489   hope he has some he said he could make some but seemed
reluctant

On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 1:04 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 I just tried to go to the website and the domain is for sale.
 Would you send his number?  I would like to get some more of his cs salve.
 Thanks.
 PT
   --
  *From:* Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Friday, May 1, 2015 12:09 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CSSelenium

 Hi:
 i talked to Tel a couple weeks back and he said he was mostly out of
 business. i tried to get some nose spray he was out?



 On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 9:16 AM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Quailwoodherbal.com sells Lugol's and it is nice to support people on the
 list.
 PT
   --
  *From:* Evans, Antonio F. antonio.ev...@va.gov
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:17 PM
 *Subject:* RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: CSSelenium

 Send the website to order Lugol' s Iodine please



 -Original Message-
 From: Lynn [mailto:lynngreene...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:14 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: CSSelenium

 Hi there;
 I drop two drops of Lugol's Solution on my thigh in the morning. Bypasses
 sensitive guts. If it disappears in 4 hours, my body needed it badly. In 8
 hours, still absorbed, but I can back off a day if I wish. It always gets
 absorbed. I've tried many things - this was cheapest and easiest.
 Lynn
 On Apr 30, 2015, at 4:39 AM, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi Dee,
  Yes, I tried low-dose Naltrexone for Hashimoto's for a month and
 disappointedly, my body reacted negatively to it. I'm real sensitive to
 synthetic drugs apparently.
 
  RaVen
 
 
  On Apr 30, 2015, at 4:26 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
 
  Oh yes it does - which is one of the reasons I take it.  Have you tried
 low-dose Naltrexone for Hashimotos? I have read of people having really
 good results with this.  It is not the ordinary Naltrexone it is the low
 dose form.Dee
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On 29 Apr 2015, at 19:56, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Does the sea green supplement you take have iodine in it? Cannot ingest
 that with Hashimoto's.
 
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CSSelenium

[PT Ferrance]

Quailwoodherbal.com sells Lugol's and it is nice to support people on the 
list.PT
  From: Evans, Antonio F. antonio.ev...@va.gov
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:17 PM
 Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: CSSelenium
   
Send the website to order Lugol' s Iodine please



-Original Message-
From: Lynn [mailto:lynngreene...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:14 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: CSSelenium

Hi there;
I drop two drops of Lugol's Solution on my thigh in the morning. Bypasses 
sensitive guts. If it disappears in 4 hours, my body needed it badly. In 8 
hours, still absorbed, but I can back off a day if I wish. It always gets 
absorbed. I've tried many things - this was cheapest and easiest.
Lynn
On Apr 30, 2015, at 4:39 AM, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Dee,
 Yes, I tried low-dose Naltrexone for Hashimoto's for a month and 
 disappointedly, my body reacted negatively to it. I'm real sensitive to 
 synthetic drugs apparently.  
 
 RaVen
 
 
 On Apr 30, 2015, at 4:26 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
 
 Oh yes it does - which is one of the reasons I take it.  Have you tried 
 low-dose Naltrexone for Hashimotos? I have read of people having really good 
 results with this.  It is not the ordinary Naltrexone it is the low dose 
 form.Dee
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 29 Apr 2015, at 19:56, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Does the sea green supplement you take have iodine in it? Cannot ingest that 
 with Hashimoto's. 
 
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Re: CSSelenium

[Dee]

Oh yes it does - which is one of the reasons I take it.  Have you tried 
low-dose Naltrexone for Hashimotos? I have read of people having really good 
results with this.  It is not the ordinary Naltrexone it is the low dose 
form.Dee

Sent from my iPad

 On 29 Apr 2015, at 19:56, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Does the sea green supplement you take have iodine in it? Cannot ingest that 
 with Hashimoto's. 
 
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Re: CSSelenium

[RaVen]

Hi Dee,
Yes, I tried low-dose Naltrexone for Hashimoto's for a month and 
disappointedly, my body reacted negatively to it. I'm real sensitive to 
synthetic drugs apparently.  

RaVen


On Apr 30, 2015, at 4:26 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:

Oh yes it does - which is one of the reasons I take it.  Have you tried 
low-dose Naltrexone for Hashimotos? I have read of people having really good 
results with this.  It is not the ordinary Naltrexone it is the low dose 
form.Dee

Sent from my iPad

 On 29 Apr 2015, at 19:56, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Does the sea green supplement you take have iodine in it? Cannot ingest that 
 with Hashimoto's. 
 
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Re: CSSelenium

[Dee]

I'm so sorry RaVen I hope you find something that works soon...Dee

Sent from my iPad

 On 30 Apr 2015, at 12:39, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Dee,
 Yes, I tried low-dose Naltrexone for Hashimoto's for a month and 
 disappointedly, my body reacted negatively to it. I'm real sensitive to 
 synthetic drugs apparently.  
 
 RaVen
 
 
 On Apr 30, 2015, at 4:26 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
 
 Oh yes it does - which is one of the reasons I take it.  Have you tried 
 low-dose Naltrexone for Hashimotos? I have read of people having really good 
 results with this.  It is not the ordinary Naltrexone it is the low dose 
 form.Dee
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 29 Apr 2015, at 19:56, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Does the sea green supplement you take have iodine in it? Cannot ingest that 
 with Hashimoto's. 
 
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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: CSSelenium

[Evans, Antonio F.]

Send the website to order Lugol' s Iodine please

-Original Message-
From: Lynn [mailto:lynngreene...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:14 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: CSSelenium

Hi there;
I drop two drops of Lugol's Solution on my thigh in the morning. Bypasses 
sensitive guts. If it disappears in 4 hours, my body needed it badly. In 8 
hours, still absorbed, but I can back off a day if I wish. It always gets 
absorbed. I've tried many things - this was cheapest and easiest.
Lynn
On Apr 30, 2015, at 4:39 AM, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Dee,
 Yes, I tried low-dose Naltrexone for Hashimoto's for a month and 
 disappointedly, my body reacted negatively to it. I'm real sensitive to 
 synthetic drugs apparently.  
 
 RaVen
 
 
 On Apr 30, 2015, at 4:26 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
 
 Oh yes it does - which is one of the reasons I take it.  Have you tried 
 low-dose Naltrexone for Hashimotos? I have read of people having really good 
 results with this.  It is not the ordinary Naltrexone it is the low dose 
 form.Dee
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 29 Apr 2015, at 19:56, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Does the sea green supplement you take have iodine in it? Cannot ingest that 
 with Hashimoto's. 
 
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CSSelenium

[Lynn]

You can buy Lugol’s usually under $15 Canadian, in any compounding pharmacy. 
And likely order it online at Iherb (I haven’t checked). Took it internally for 
years, but drops on skin is much, much easier to regulate.
Lynn
On Apr 30, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Evans, Antonio F. antonio.ev...@va.gov wrote:

 Send the website to order Lugol' s Iodine please
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Lynn [mailto:lynngreene...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:14 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: CSSelenium
 
 Hi there;
 I drop two drops of Lugol's Solution on my thigh in the morning. Bypasses 
 sensitive guts. If it disappears in 4 hours, my body needed it badly. In 8 
 hours, still absorbed, but I can back off a day if I wish. It always gets 
 absorbed. I've tried many things - this was cheapest and easiest.
 Lynn
 On Apr 30, 2015, at 4:39 AM, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Dee,
 Yes, I tried low-dose Naltrexone for Hashimoto's for a month and 
 disappointedly, my body reacted negatively to it. I'm real sensitive to 
 synthetic drugs apparently.  
 
 RaVen
 
 
 On Apr 30, 2015, at 4:26 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
 
 Oh yes it does - which is one of the reasons I take it.  Have you tried 
 low-dose Naltrexone for Hashimotos? I have read of people having really good 
 results with this.  It is not the ordinary Naltrexone it is the low dose 
 form.Dee
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 29 Apr 2015, at 19:56, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Does the sea green supplement you take have iodine in it? Cannot ingest 
 that with Hashimoto's. 
 
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Re: CSSelenium

[Lynn]

Hi there;
I drop two drops of Lugol’s Solution on my thigh in the morning. Bypasses 
sensitive guts. If it disappears in 4 hours, my body needed it badly. In 8 
hours, still absorbed, but I can back off a day if I wish. It always gets 
absorbed. I’ve tried many things - this was cheapest and easiest.
Lynn
On Apr 30, 2015, at 4:39 AM, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Dee,
 Yes, I tried low-dose Naltrexone for Hashimoto's for a month and 
 disappointedly, my body reacted negatively to it. I'm real sensitive to 
 synthetic drugs apparently.  
 
 RaVen
 
 
 On Apr 30, 2015, at 4:26 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
 
 Oh yes it does - which is one of the reasons I take it.  Have you tried 
 low-dose Naltrexone for Hashimotos? I have read of people having really good 
 results with this.  It is not the ordinary Naltrexone it is the low dose 
 form.Dee
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 29 Apr 2015, at 19:56, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Does the sea green supplement you take have iodine in it? Cannot ingest that 
 with Hashimoto's. 
 
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CSSelenium

[Smitty]

Amazon stocks  Lugol’s

On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Lynn lynngreene...@gmail.com wrote:

 You can buy Lugol’s usually under $15 Canadian, in any compounding
 pharmacy. And likely order it online at Iherb (I haven’t checked). Took it
 internally for years, but drops on skin is much, much easier to regulate.
 Lynn
 On Apr 30, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Evans, Antonio F. antonio.ev...@va.gov
 wrote:

  Send the website to order Lugol' s Iodine please
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Lynn [mailto:lynngreene...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:14 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: CSSelenium
 
  Hi there;
  I drop two drops of Lugol's Solution on my thigh in the morning.
 Bypasses sensitive guts. If it disappears in 4 hours, my body needed it
 badly. In 8 hours, still absorbed, but I can back off a day if I wish. It
 always gets absorbed. I've tried many things - this was cheapest and
 easiest.
  Lynn
  On Apr 30, 2015, at 4:39 AM, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Dee,
  Yes, I tried low-dose Naltrexone for Hashimoto's for a month and
 disappointedly, my body reacted negatively to it. I'm real sensitive to
 synthetic drugs apparently.
 
  RaVen
 
 
  On Apr 30, 2015, at 4:26 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
 
  Oh yes it does - which is one of the reasons I take it.  Have you tried
 low-dose Naltrexone for Hashimotos? I have read of people having really
 good results with this.  It is not the ordinary Naltrexone it is the low
 dose form.Dee
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On 29 Apr 2015, at 19:56, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Does the sea green supplement you take have iodine in it? Cannot
 ingest that with Hashimoto's.
 
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Re: CSSelenium

[Dee]

Hi PT I think the best way to absorb all necessary vitamins and minerals if you 
have a compromised system, is to take a good seaweed supplement such as 
Seagreens.  This way, you get everything in a bioavailable form and - most 
importantly - it is all balanced and so avoiding the pitfall of having too much 
rather than too little of anything - which can be disastrous.  Also juicing 
vegetables using all different kinds is excellentDee

Sent from my iPad

 On 28 Apr 2015, at 22:31, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 As long as you have the digestive system and metabolism to absorb it.  Some 
 of us don't.
 PT
 From: Léna drumr...@stny.rr.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 8:42 AM
 Subject: Re: CSSelenium
 
 Two brazil nuts can provide a healthy, daily dose of selenium, and are more 
 enjoyable than taking a pill.
 Be well, 
 Lena
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 
 
 On Apr 28, 2015, at 7:05 AM, V highergroun...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Selenium is also something you are dependent in buying along with all the 
 other recommended supplements you really have to pick and choose or spend a 
 rather large amount of money each month to maintain. So I do pick and choose 
 and even IF it is a preferable to use selenium over silver solutions, I can 
 make it and use it cheaply.
 
 The fact that I can plant a seed and it becomes a flower, share a bit of 
 knowledge and it becomes another's, smile at someone and receive a smile in 
 return, are to me continual spiritual exercises.
 Leo Buscaglia
 
 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:50 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
 Trouble is, selenium is highly toxic in bigger than micro dosesDee
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 28 Apr 2015, at 03:55, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Y'all are aware of the anti-inflammatory, anti-pathogen, and tumor 
 suppressing properties of nanoparticle silver, but may not know that 
 selenium also performs these functions.   Plus,  selenium is the essential 
 mineral co-factor in converting amino acids into proteins.   As Dr. Olree 
 sums up in Minerals for the Genetic Code ... Every form of cancer is a 
 child of selenium deficiency. 
 
 

Re: CSSelenium

[PT Ferrance]

Hi Dee,See vegetation is extremely cold and raw vegetables are also cold.  
Digestion is a fermenting process so eating things that are close to body 
temperature... physically and thermodynamically... is important.  That way it 
doesn't cost the body the energy it would need to use to bring whatever it is 
to the optimum temperature.  In Oriental Medicine we like warm congee (rice 
gruel) cooked with herbs.PT
  From: Dee d...@deetroy.org
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 4:00 AM
 Subject: Re: CSSelenium
   
Hi PT I think the best way to absorb all necessary vitamins and minerals if you 
have a compromised system, is to take a good seaweed supplement such as 
Seagreens.  This way, you get everything in a bioavailable form and - most 
importantly - it is all balanced and so avoiding the pitfall of having too much 
rather than too little of anything - which can be disastrous.  Also juicing 
vegetables using all different kinds is excellentDee

Sent from my iPad


On 28 Apr 2015, at 22:31, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:


As long as you have the digestive system and metabolism to absorb it.  Some of 
us don't.PT
  From: Léna drumr...@stny.rr.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 8:42 AM
 Subject: Re: CSSelenium
   
Two brazil nuts can provide a healthy, daily dose of selenium, and are more 
enjoyable than taking a pill.Be well, Lena

Sent from my iPad


On Apr 28, 2015, at 7:05 AM, V highergroun...@gmail.com wrote:


Selenium is also something you are dependent in buying along with all the other 
recommended supplements you really have to pick and choose or spend a rather 
large amount of money each month to maintain. So I do pick and choose and even 
IF it is a preferable to use selenium over silver solutions, I can make it and 
use it cheaply.

The fact that I can plant a seed and it becomes a flower, share a bit of 
knowledge and it becomes another's, smile at someone and receive a smile in 
return, are to me continual spiritual exercises.Leo Buscaglia 
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:50 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:

Trouble is, selenium is highly toxic in bigger than micro dosesDee

Sent from my iPad
On 28 Apr 2015, at 03:55, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote:



Y'all are aware of the anti-inflammatory, anti-pathogen, and tumor suppressing 
properties of nanoparticle silver, but may not know that selenium also performs 
these functions.   Plus,  selenium is the essential mineral co-factor in 
converting amino acids into proteins.   As Dr. Olree sums up in Minerals for 
the Genetic Code ... Every form of cancer is a child of selenium deficiency. 
 








   


  

Re: CSSelenium

[Dee]

I would think the nutritional content would be more important and don't see 
that rice (carbohydrate) would be that beneficial if used exclusively- even 
with herbs...sea vegetables are renowned for their nutritional benefits and I 
for one, have greatly benefited from Seagreens, which are capsules by the 
way...Dee

Sent from my iPad

 On 29 Apr 2015, at 13:58, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Hi Dee,
 See vegetation is extremely cold and raw vegetables are also cold.  Digestion 
 is a fermenting process so eating things that are close to body 
 temperature... physically and thermodynamically... is important.  That way it 
 doesn't cost the body the energy it would need to use to bring whatever it is 
 to the optimum temperature.  In Oriental Medicine we like warm congee (rice 
 gruel) cooked with herbs.
 PT
 From: Dee d...@deetroy.org
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 4:00 AM
 Subject: Re: CSSelenium
 
 Hi PT I think the best way to absorb all necessary vitamins and minerals if 
 you have a compromised system, is to take a good seaweed supplement such as 
 Seagreens.  This way, you get everything in a bioavailable form and - most 
 importantly - it is all balanced and so avoiding the pitfall of having too 
 much rather than too little of anything - which can be disastrous.  Also 
 juicing vegetables using all different kinds is excellentDee
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 
 
 On 28 Apr 2015, at 22:31, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 As long as you have the digestive system and metabolism to absorb it.  Some 
 of us don't.
 PT
 From: Léna drumr...@stny.rr.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 8:42 AM
 Subject: Re: CSSelenium
 
 Two brazil nuts can provide a healthy, daily dose of selenium, and are more 
 enjoyable than taking a pill.
 Be well, 
 Lena
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 
 
 On Apr 28, 2015, at 7:05 AM, V highergroun...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Selenium is also something you are dependent in buying along with all the 
 other recommended supplements you really have to pick and choose or spend a 
 rather large amount of money each month to maintain. So I do pick and 
 choose and even IF it is a preferable to use selenium over silver 
 solutions, I can make it and use it cheaply.
 
 The fact that I can plant a seed and it becomes a flower, share a bit of 
 knowledge and it becomes another's, smile at someone and receive a smile in 
 return, are to me continual spiritual exercises.
 Leo Buscaglia
 
 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:50 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
 Trouble is, selenium is highly toxic in bigger than micro dosesDee
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 28 Apr 2015, at 03:55, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Y'all are aware of the anti-inflammatory, anti-pathogen, and tumor 
 suppressing properties of nanoparticle silver, but may not know that 
 selenium also performs these functions.   Plus,  selenium is the essential 
 mineral co-factor in converting amino acids into proteins.   As Dr. Olree 
 sums up in Minerals for the Genetic Code ... Every form of cancer is a 
 child of selenium deficiency. 
 
 

Re: CSSelenium

[RaVen]

Does the sea green supplement you take have iodine in it? Cannot ingest that 
with Hashimoto's. 

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Re: CSSelenium

[V]

Selenium is also something you are dependent in buying along with all the
other recommended supplements you really have to pick and choose or spend a
rather large amount of money each month to maintain. So I do pick and
choose and even IF it is a preferable to use selenium over silver
solutions, I can make it and use it cheaply.

The fact that I can plant a seed and it becomes a flower, share a bit of
knowledge and it becomes another's, smile at someone and receive a smile in
return, are to me continual spiritual exercises.
Leo Buscaglia

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:50 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:

 Trouble is, selenium is highly toxic in bigger than micro dosesDee

 Sent from my iPad

 On 28 Apr 2015, at 03:55, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote:


 Y'all are aware of the anti-inflammatory, anti-pathogen, and tumor
 suppressing properties of nanoparticle silver, but may not know that
 selenium also performs these functions.   Plus,  selenium is the essential
 mineral co-factor in converting amino acids into proteins.   As Dr. Olree
 sums up in Minerals for the Genetic Code ... Every form of cancer is a
 child of selenium deficiency.

Re: CSSelenium

[Léna]

Two brazil nuts can provide a healthy, daily dose of selenium, and are more 
enjoyable than taking a pill.
Be well, 
Lena

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 28, 2015, at 7:05 AM, V highergroun...@gmail.com wrote:

 Selenium is also something you are dependent in buying along with all the 
 other recommended supplements you really have to pick and choose or spend a 
 rather large amount of money each month to maintain. So I do pick and choose 
 and even IF it is a preferable to use selenium over silver solutions, I can 
 make it and use it cheaply.
 
 The fact that I can plant a seed and it becomes a flower, share a bit of 
 knowledge and it becomes another's, smile at someone and receive a smile in 
 return, are to me continual spiritual exercises.
 Leo Buscaglia
 
 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:50 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
 Trouble is, selenium is highly toxic in bigger than micro dosesDee
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 28 Apr 2015, at 03:55, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Y'all are aware of the anti-inflammatory, anti-pathogen, and tumor 
 suppressing properties of nanoparticle silver, but may not know that 
 selenium also performs these functions.   Plus,  selenium is the essential 
 mineral co-factor in converting amino acids into proteins.   As Dr. Olree 
 sums up in Minerals for the Genetic Code ... Every form of cancer is a 
 child of selenium deficiency.  
 
 
 

Re: CSSelenium

[PT Ferrance]

As long as you have the digestive system and metabolism to absorb it.  Some of 
us don't.PT
  From: Léna drumr...@stny.rr.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 8:42 AM
 Subject: Re: CSSelenium
   
Two brazil nuts can provide a healthy, daily dose of selenium, and are more 
enjoyable than taking a pill.Be well, Lena

Sent from my iPad


On Apr 28, 2015, at 7:05 AM, V highergroun...@gmail.com wrote:


Selenium is also something you are dependent in buying along with all the other 
recommended supplements you really have to pick and choose or spend a rather 
large amount of money each month to maintain. So I do pick and choose and even 
IF it is a preferable to use selenium over silver solutions, I can make it and 
use it cheaply.

The fact that I can plant a seed and it becomes a flower, share a bit of 
knowledge and it becomes another's, smile at someone and receive a smile in 
return, are to me continual spiritual exercises.Leo Buscaglia 
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:50 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:

Trouble is, selenium is highly toxic in bigger than micro dosesDee

Sent from my iPad
On 28 Apr 2015, at 03:55, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote:



Y'all are aware of the anti-inflammatory, anti-pathogen, and tumor suppressing 
properties of nanoparticle silver, but may not know that selenium also performs 
these functions.   Plus,  selenium is the essential mineral co-factor in 
converting amino acids into proteins.   As Dr. Olree sums up in Minerals for 
the Genetic Code ... Every form of cancer is a child of selenium deficiency. 
 








  

Re: CSSelenium

[Dee]

Trouble is, selenium is highly toxic in bigger than micro dosesDee

Sent from my iPad

 On 28 Apr 2015, at 03:55, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Y'all are aware of the anti-inflammatory, anti-pathogen, and tumor 
 suppressing properties of nanoparticle silver, but may not know that selenium 
 also performs these functions.   Plus,  selenium is the essential mineral 
 co-factor in converting amino acids into proteins.   As Dr. Olree sums up in 
 Minerals for the Genetic Code ... Every form of cancer is a child of 
 selenium deficiency.  
 
 

CSSelenium

[Phil Morrison]

Y'all are aware of the anti-inflammatory, anti-pathogen, and tumor
suppressing properties of nanoparticle silver, but may not know that
selenium also performs these functions.   Plus,  selenium is the essential
mineral co-factor in converting amino acids into proteins.   As Dr. Olree
sums up in Minerals for the Genetic Code ... Every form of cancer is a
child of selenium deficiency.

Re: CSSelenium

[wanda85929]

Is silver anti-inflammatory?  I did not even realize that. 

Gail

Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 27, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Y'all are aware of the anti-inflammatory, anti-pathogen, and tumor 
 suppressing properties of nanoparticle silver, but may not know that selenium 
 also performs these functions.   Plus,  selenium is the essential mineral 
 co-factor in converting amino acids into proteins.   As Dr. Olree sums up in 
 Minerals for the Genetic Code ... Every form of cancer is a child of 
 selenium deficiency.  
 
 

CSSelenium

[Silvia Messmer]

Selenium is a companion nutrient to iodine.  If you are taking iodine for
whatever reason (thyroid problems, bromide detox, breast cancer etc.) you
want selenium as well as magnesium, vit. C, and other nutrients in the
iodine protocol.  It is possible you read about taking selenium with iodine
and thought you read it on the silver list as needed with silver.
Silvia




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Re: CSSelenium

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Do you think it might be better to take something like kelp which has all the 
nutrients in the right amounts--sooner than risking imbalancing things?  dee


On 13 Mar 2012, at 17:43, Silvia Messmer wrote:

 Selenium is a companion nutrient to iodine.  If you are taking iodine for
 whatever reason (thyroid problems, bromide detox, breast cancer etc.) you
 want selenium as well as magnesium, vit. C, and other nutrients in the
 iodine protocol.  It is possible you read about taking selenium with iodine
 and thought you read it on the silver list as needed with silver.
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RE: CSSelenium

[Silvia Messmer]

Kelp can be contaminated by mercury and other heavy metals.  I personally
avoid it and take suppliments.

Silvia

-Original Message-
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 12:01 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSelenium


Do you think it might be better to take something like kelp which has all
the nutrients in the right amounts--sooner than risking imbalancing things?
dee


On 13 Mar 2012, at 17:43, Silvia Messmer wrote:

 Selenium is a companion nutrient to iodine.  If you are taking iodine for
 whatever reason (thyroid problems, bromide detox, breast cancer etc.) you
 want selenium as well as magnesium, vit. C, and other nutrients in the
 iodine protocol.  It is possible you read about taking selenium with
iodine
 and thought you read it on the silver list as needed with silver.
 Silvia




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RE: CSSelenium

[bob Larson]

i'm also interested in selenium info... thanks
bobL


  _  

From: jaxi [mailto:jaxi.sch...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:17 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSSelenium


I think it was someone from this list that sent a link explaining the
different types of selenium.  It is a really detailed explanation of the
different types and their bio-availability based on type.  If it was here
and someone has it could you resend it?  I could have sworn I bookmarked it
but cannot find it. 

Thanks,

Jaxi

CSSelenium

[jaxi]

I think it was someone from this list that sent a link explaining the
different types of selenium.  It is a really detailed explanation of the
different types and their bio-availability based on type.  If it was here
and someone has it could you resend it?  I could have sworn I bookmarked it
but cannot find it.

Thanks,

Jaxi

RE: CSSelenium

[John Draper]

 

Hi Jaxi,

 

I'm not sure if this is what you want, but I've read many times from
different sources that L-Selenomethionine is one of the best, safest and
most bioavailable forms. Here is more info:

 

http://www.selenomethionine.com/

 

Selenium is an essential trace element for humans and other animals.

Selenium is incorporated into molecules of an enzyme called glutathione
peroxidase (GPX). This vital enzyme protects red blood cells and cell
membranes against undesirable reactions with soluble peroxides.

The dependence of glutathione peroxidase on nutritional selenium clarifies
the antioxidant role of this essential micronutrient. Good selenium
nutrition is of key importance for antioxidant defense as well as efficient
energy metabolism.

Research is currently being conducted on the protective effects of Se in
humans against :

*   aging 
*   certain types of cancer 
*   heart disease 
*   cataract 
*   arthritis 
*   Alzheimer disease 
*   HIV infection 
*   etc... 

Recommended selenium supplementation in humans: 50-200 mg /day. 

Recommended source of selenium uptake for humans: L-(+)- selenomethionine. 

L-(+)- selenomethionine is natural, stable, better absorbed than other forms
of (inorganic) selenium (like sodium selenite or selenate etc.) 

For more information: 

Articles :

*   Schrauzer in J. Nutr. 130: 1653-1656 (2000). 
*   Julian E. Spallholz Selenium and The
http://www.selenomethionine.com/SeMC1.pdf  Prevention of Cancer, Part I:
Evidence for the Carcinostatic Activity of Se Compounds 
*   Julian E. Spallholz Selenium and The
http://www.selenomethionine.com/SeMC2.pdf  Prevention of Cancer, Part II:
Mechanisms for the Carcinostatic Activity of Se Compounds 

 

 

 

 

  _  

From: jaxi [mailto:jaxi.sch...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 6:17 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSSelenium

 

I think it was someone from this list that sent a link explaining the
different types of selenium.  It is a really detailed explanation of the
different types and their bio-availability based on type.  If it was here
and someone has it could you resend it?  I could have sworn I bookmarked it
but cannot find it.

 

Thanks,

 

Jaxi

Re: CSSelenium Yeast Product Supplement

[Dan Nave]

Eight of us at work have gone in together and bought a 50 lb bag.
That comes out to 6.25 lbs for $10 each.
We just got it.  Now to split it up and use it.

Dan

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.orost.org/Alternatives/0907Walt-noColdsFlu.pdf

 Check out this article about the XPC Yeast Product Supplement.  (Same as 
 EpiCor)
 Very interesting, and inexpensive.

 Article by Dr. David Williams

 Dan


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RE: CSSelenium Yeast Product Supplement

[Norton, Steve]

Great price. Let us know how you like it.
 - Steve N 

-Original Message-
From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:16 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSelenium Yeast Product Supplement

Eight of us at work have gone in together and bought a 50 lb bag.
That comes out to 6.25 lbs for $10 each.
We just got it.  Now to split it up and use it.

Dan

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.orost.org/Alternatives/0907Walt-noColdsFlu.pdf

 Check out this article about the XPC Yeast Product Supplement.  (Same 
 as EpiCor) Very interesting, and inexpensive.

 Article by Dr. David Williams

 Dan


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Re: CSSelenium Yeast Product Supplement

[Dan Nave]

Will do.

It looks kind of like ground coffee, but a little lighter.  Smells and
tastes a bit grainy, slightly sour, and slightly of brewer's yeast and
molasses.  Not too strong though.  Not too bad.

I was shocked that I got 7 more people in our department to go in on
it.  I had to give verbal summaries of the article to several.  It's
amazing how many people won't read!

Dan

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote:
 Great price. Let us know how you like it.
  - Steve N

 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:16 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSSelenium Yeast Product Supplement

 Eight of us at work have gone in together and bought a 50 lb bag.
 That comes out to 6.25 lbs for $10 each.
 We just got it.  Now to split it up and use it.

 Dan

 On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.orost.org/Alternatives/0907Walt-noColdsFlu.pdf

 Check out this article about the XPC Yeast Product Supplement.  (Same
 as EpiCor) Very interesting, and inexpensive.

 Article by Dr. David Williams

 Dan


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CSSelenium Yeast Product Supplement

[Dan Nave]

http://www.orost.org/Alternatives/0907Walt-noColdsFlu.pdf

Check out this article about the XPC Yeast Product Supplement.  (Same as EpiCor)
Very interesting, and inexpensive.

Article by Dr. David Williams

Dan


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Re: CSSelenium

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

Yes and despite what Wayne says, there are definitely a lot of supplements
on the market which you might just as well throw straight down the toilet,
without using 'the middle man' at all!  Dr Wallach said this once and I know
that his mineral products are also, in some people's opinion; suspect too.
As far as bio-availability is concerned that is.  You have to research and
research into the best form to take, and even then can be wrong as I have
just found out.  Then as I said, there is the matter of unbalancing things
which is a whole new can of worms.  I think the best thing to do (and this
is only my own opinion) is to juice some fruits and veggies at home (again,
in moderation) and hope for the best.  At least, this is what I aim to do. 
Dee 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Neville
Date: 30/12/2008 22:00:57
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSelenium
 
Morning Dee,
 
Yep, understood.  I can't say too much about supplements but many years ago
when I was a young punk I went back home for a visit and noticed the fridge
contained a number of bottles of various supplements and when I asked my
mother how come the sudden influx of supplements in the house she explained
that as she was getting older she thought she may need to supplement some
things, 'just in case'she died at 59 with a heart attack.
 
I'm not blaming the supplements by the way as I couldn't possibly know, but
I picked one and did some asking about it and learned that the particular
one I picked contained several ingredients which all did basically the same
thing in their own individual way, I could not help but be drawn to the
thought that as she was getting this particular ingredient in her normal
diet as it was, she may actually have been getting too much of that
particular supplement.  I had to ask myself if this was a wise thing for her
to have done?  The human body has some amazing mechanisms if not tampered
with too much.  I have nothing to support the view that they may have
inadvertantly shortened her life, and I've nothing against supplements
either, but I must admit it did make me think about it a bit back then, and
I still do.
 
 It just gave me some food for thought.
 
Neville.

Re: CSSelenium

[cking001]

Juicing is not a bad way to go.
A good amount of concentrated nutrients that are truly bioavailable.
Avoid too much fruit because of the sugar load, though.

(this from a supplement freak)

Chuck
Money is the root of all evil; everyone needs roots!


On 12/31/2008 7:55:43 AM, Dee Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:
 Yes and despite what Wayne says, there are definitely a lot of supplements
 on the market which you might just as well throw straight down the toilet,
 without using 'the middle man' at all!  Dr Wallach said this once and I
 know that his mineral products are also, in some
 people's opinion; suspect too. As far as bio-availability is concerned that 
 is. You have to research and research into the best form to take, and even 
 then can be wrong as I have just found out. Then as I said, there is the 
 matter of unbalancing things which is a whole new can of worms. I think the 
 best thing to do (and this is only my own opinion) is to juice some fruits 
 and veggies at home (again, in moderation) and hope for the best. At least, 
 this is what I aim to do. Dee
 
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Re: CSSelenium

[Bob Banever]

cking,

Brazil nuts contain a very high amount of selenium FYI.

- Original Message - 
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: CSSelenium


Juicing is not a bad way to go.
A good amount of concentrated nutrients that are truly bioavailable.
Avoid too much fruit because of the sugar load, though.

(this from a supplement freak)

Chuck
Money is the root of all evil; everyone needs roots!


On 12/31/2008 7:55:43 AM, Dee Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:

Yes and despite what Wayne says, there are definitely a lot of supplements
on the market which you might just as well throw straight down the toilet,
without using 'the middle man' at all!  Dr Wallach said this once and I
know that his mineral products are also, in some
people's opinion; suspect too. As far as bio-availability is concerned 
that is. You have to research and research into the best form to take, and 
even then can be wrong as I have just found out. Then as I said, there is 
the matter of unbalancing things which is a whole new can of worms. I 
think the best thing to do (and this is only my own opinion) is to juice 
some fruits and veggies at home (again, in moderation) and hope for the 
best. At least, this is what I aim to do. Dee









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Re: CSSelenium questions?

[Neville]

Hi Teri,
Sodium selenate...the sodium part wouldn't be a form of salt would it do you 
know?


N.

- Original Message - 
From: Teri Kavakos t...@welshspringers.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: CSSelenium questions?



Neville,

I don't know if this will help but my supplement is 
50%se-methylselenocysteine, 25% L-selenomethionine and 25% sodium 
selenate.  A total of 200mcg


Teri



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CSSelenium questions? Not Really, It was a Sodium Question.

[Wayne Fugitt]

Morning Neville,

 At 01:59 AM 12/30/2008, you wrote:
Sodium selenate...the sodium part wouldn't be a form of salt would it 
do you know?


 Now, ..if you could and would, define your term,  Form of 
Salt, then many could answer your question.  Of course.


Some time ago, ( maybe before your time ) we had some discussion on  Terms.

A few mean nothing, cannot be defined, serve no purpose, and should 
not exist, many are worthless.


One was  Aerobic Oxygen.

Sounds like you want to know more about  Fuzzy Logic.  Yes indeed.

Many terms can only be defined with Fuzzy Logic.  ( not very good then )

Relative to Sodium Compounds, many exist.  Some are poison, some are 
very useful, they are used for many purposes.   Some are very 
dangerous. A few.  of my favorites


Sodium Cyanide
Sodium Chlorite
Sodium Pentathol
Sodiium Nitrate
Sodiium Sulfate
Sodium Fulminate
Sodium Iodine
.  Just to name a few of my favorites.

Get some of all the different Sodium compounds and see what you can 
do with them.

That should keep you busy for a day or two.

Mercury Fulminate... I have to mention this one.  ( not Sodium )
You can have lots of fun with this one.

Paint some on your window sill,  Watch the flies light on it, and 
watch them explode.


Get a 5 gallon bucket full.  Several were found in the Oklahoma City Bombing.

And you are like me,  If we were a chemist, we would be a MAD Scientist.

Happy New Year !

I would send you some Mercury Fulminate, but I do not think it can be 
shipped, easily.

And I do not have any.

Wayne






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Re: CSSelenium questions? Not Really, It was a Sodium Question.

[Neville]

- Original Message - 
From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:24 PM
Subject: CSSelenium questions? Not Really, It was a Sodium Question.

Hi there Wayne, and a Happy, healthy and prosperous year ahead your way 
also.


[Now, ..if you could and would, define your term,  Form of

Salt, then many could answer your question.  Of course.
Some time ago, ( maybe before your time ) we had some discussion on 
Terms.]


-I guess that would probably have involved me Wayne, but I would think that 
those who are far better with the scientific vocabulary than I would 
consider giving some lee-way to my illiterate way of explaining and see what 
the meaning is behind my fuzzy logic.  I know what I want ask but haven't 
the scientific skills to ask in the correct manner so I am forced to bumble 
along in my own way.


[One was  Aerobic Oxygen.]

-This one would probably be an 'oxymoron' or something wouldn't it...aerobic 
and oxygen?


[Sounds like you want to know more about  Fuzzy Logic.  Yes indeed.]

-Well, that wouldn't be anything new would it g.


Relative to Sodium Compounds, many exist.


-I believe you know where I'm going with the sodium thing though.  What else 
am I expected to think when I hear sodium mentioned with silver?  As fuzzy 
as it may seem this is why I'm making these enquiries.  Is any form of 
sodium ok with silver?  I don't know how many forms there are, and of those, 
how many could interact with silver?  I'm already starting to form my own 
ideas when I read about chelation with selenium.


[That should keep you busy for a day or two.]

-I can certainly read between the lines there g.

[And you are like me,  If we were a chemist, we would be a MAD Scientist.]

-What can I say.  If I was *any* sort of scientist do you think I would be 
asking such stupid or fuzzy questions?  At least I will get a grass roots 
understanding of basic principles which can satisfy my curiosity to a point 
without having to get a degree and that should be enough to teach me 
something I didn't know before.


Hope you had an enjoyable xmas.

Oh, by the way, I had several samples of my EICS tested recently and am a 
little blown away by some of the results.
Perhaps you could tell me what the hell an AgNO3 STDS is as this is what was 
used with the AAS testing I had done and I haven't a clue if it's useful or 
not as a test proceedure.  That'll keep you occupied for a few minutes g. 
No, only joking, I am going to speak with the chap who did the testing for 
me shortly and get him to explain all the test results to mein plain 
english!  Going by the test results of 2 of my samples they are damn close 
to 50/50 ion/particle content, this I have never heard of in all the reading 
I have done over the years with LV home made EICS, all I have read state 
90/10 or 80/20 etc etc but none near 50/50.  Of course I welcome any 
comments you will have.


Neville.







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Re: CSSelenium questions? Not Really, It was a Sodium Question.

[Wayne Fugitt]

Morning Neville,
At 04:52 AM 12/30/2008, you wrote:
That'll keep you occupied for a
few minutes g 
 Not very long at all.
You should certainly know what AG material actually is.
When in doubt, look at the Atomic Chart on your wall.
AG is Silver, nothing more, nothing less.
Atomic Number 47
Atomic Weight 107.8682 
Melting Point: 961.93 °C (1235.08 K,
1763.474 °F) 
Boiling Point: 2212.0 °C (2485.15 K, 4013.6 °F) 
Number of Protons/Electrons: 47 
Number of Neutrons: 61 
NO3 is the Nitrate Radical or Ion.
My plants eat it, when it chelated properly.
Nitrate and Nitrite are common forms of fertilizer.
It has many good uses and many bad ones.
So, AgNO3 is simply Silver Nitrate.
You must have seen that term, 1000 times at least.
Perhaps you could tell me what
the hell an AgNO3 STDS is as this is what was used with the AAS testing I
had done and I haven't a clue if it's useful or not as a test
proceedure. 
Certainly it is or he would not have used it. 
AAS is the Standards use. 
STDS appears to mean Standards, maybe something a bit
different.
If you did not trust the guy, why did you use him to do your
test ?

Wayne
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Re: CSSelenium questions? Not Really, It was a Sodium Question.

[Neville]

  - Original Message - 
  From: Wayne Fugitt 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 11:25 PM
  Subject: Re: CSSelenium questions? Not Really, It was a Sodium Question.


  [If you did not trust the guy, why did you use him to do your
  test ?]

  NO, NO, Don't get me wrong, it's nothing to do with trust Wayne, no problem 
there, and I know that AAS is a standard test and of course I know Ag is 
silver, and should have known the nitrate part, but the STDS I wasn't familiar 
with, I assumed it was something to do with Total Dissolved Solids.  I'm going 
to ask him about all the tests anyway when I see him shortly so it doesn't 
matter.

  P.S.  I've trucked tons of Amonium Nitrate around the countryside so I know 
what that is g, good for fishing as well, and apparently keeps beer cold too, 
just can't remember what they add to it to make it act as a chiller, maybe it's 
diesel? g.
  Neville.





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Re: CSSelenium questions? Not Really, It was a Sodium Question.

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

If you are referring to the product that I mentioned before Wayne, which was
actually stabilized oxygen, I will say yet again, that Aerobic Oxygen was
the name of the *company* which produced the stabilized oxygen.  It did
*not* refer to the actual product, or the 'ingredients' for want of a better
word.   I do hope this is clear now.  Dee 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Wayne Fugitt
Date: 30/12/2008 09:55:15
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSSelenium questions? Not Really, It was a Sodium Question.
 
Morning Neville,
 
  A few mean nothing, cannot be defined, serve no purpose, and should
not exist, many are worthless.
 
One was  Aerobic Oxygen.
 

Re: CSSelenium

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

The thing is Neville, that *most* if not *all* substances/vitamins/minerals
whatever; will be toxic if in too large doses.  Or even if they are
unbalanced this can cause major problems.  I have come to the conclusion now
that all the many hundreds of pounds I have spent on supplements was money
wasted because of this fact.  One example was that research has been done
recently on Vit D and the health pages have exhorted us to supplement with
this in order to avoid cancer etc.,  I now find out that it is only the
VitD3 form that is good as the other type (D2) which I bought, can actually
act as an immunosuppressant!  Yet it is still sold, as are many of the
inappropriate forms of vits and minerals still on the market.  I have
decided that the only vit I will supplement with is Vit C.  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Neville
Date: 30/12/2008 06:24:27
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSelenium
 
Thanks for that Teri and Steve, I'll answer you both in one email if you don
t mind.
 
I'll read through both of these more and do some more searching of the 
ingredients' to see what I come up with as this information could be quite
helpful.
 
There are predominantly 2 forms of selenium apparently, organic and
inorganic, and also selenium is stated as being a 'relative' of sulpher. 
With this information, combined with your and Teri's, and information I
haven't discovered yet I am trying to build a picture of what selenium is,
what it does (exactly), and what other ingredients are included which
constitutes the supplemental form.  I found that apparently it's toxic if
taken in excess and some articles accuse it of causing a form of diabeties,
I think it was type 2, it doesn't matter what type anyway the accusation is
the main point, and I believe it's used for chelation also, (this, I want to
research more).
 

Re: CSSelenium questions? Not Really, It was a Sodium Question.

[Wayne Fugitt]

Morning Dee,
At 08:32 AM 12/30/2008, you wrote:
I do hope this is clear
now.  
 Yes, I know. You made it clear then.
grin
 I simply needed something. and that was the first
thing
I tought about.
 I should have used Wall Wart, not my
favorite term.
 Further, some bogus terms make it into the classification
of
 
colloquialism. Then they become valid
and acceptable.
 This could keep them from being classified as Fuzzy
Logic.
 Wayne





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Re: CSSelenium

[Neville]

Morning Dee,

Yep, understood.  I can't say too much about supplements but many years ago 
when I was a young punk I went back home for a visit and noticed the fridge 
contained a number of bottles of various supplements and when I asked my mother 
how come the sudden influx of supplements in the house she explained that as 
she was getting older she thought she may need to supplement some things, 'just 
in case'she died at 59 with a heart attack.

I'm not blaming the supplements by the way as I couldn't possibly know, but I 
picked one and did some asking about it and learned that the particular one I 
picked contained several ingredients which all did basically the same thing in 
their own individual way, I could not help but be drawn to the thought that as 
she was getting this particular ingredient in her normal diet as it was, she 
may actually have been getting too much of that particular supplement.  I had 
to ask myself if this was a wise thing for her to have done?  The human body 
has some amazing mechanisms if not tampered with too much.  I have nothing to 
support the view that they may have inadvertantly shortened her life, and I've 
nothing against supplements either, but I must admit it did make me think about 
it a bit back then, and I still do.

 It just gave me some food for thought.

Neville.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dee Fitzpatrick 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:09 AM
  Subject: Re: CSSelenium


The thing is Neville, that *most* if not *all* 
substances/vitamins/minerals whatever; will be toxic if in too large doses.  Or 
even if they are unbalanced this can cause major problems.  I have come to the 
conclusion now that all the many hundreds of pounds I have spent on supplements 
was money wasted because of this fact.  One example was that research has been 
done recently on Vit D and the health pages have exhorted us to supplement with 
this in order to avoid cancer etc.,  I now find out that it is only the VitD3 
form that is good as the other type (D2) which I bought, can actually act as an 
immunosuppressant!  Yet it is still sold, as are many of the inappropriate 
forms of vits and minerals still on the market.  I have decided that the only 
vit I will supplement with is Vit C.  Dee  

---Original Message---

From: Neville
Date: 30/12/2008 06:24:27
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSelenium

Thanks for that Teri and Steve, I'll answer you both in one email if 
you don't mind.

I'll read through both of these more and do some more searching of the 
'ingredients' to see what I come up with as this information could be quite 
helpful.

There are predominantly 2 forms of selenium apparently, organic and 
inorganic, and also selenium is stated as being a 'relative' of sulpher.  With 
this information, combined with your and Teri's, and information I haven't 
discovered yet I am trying to build a picture of what selenium is, what it does 
(exactly), and what other ingredients are included which constitutes the 
supplemental form.  I found that apparently it's toxic if taken in excess and 
some articles accuse it of causing a form of diabeties, I think it was type 2, 
it doesn't matter what type anyway the accusation is the main point, and I 
believe it's used for chelation also, (this, I want to research more).
   
  
   

Re: CSSelenium questions?

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

L-selenomethionine seems to be the most bio available form to take.  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Carol Monroe
Date: 28/12/2008 22:56:17
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSelenium questions?
 
I've been taking 200 mcg daily of a selenium supplement that says it is
L-Selenomethionine that my doctor instructed me to take to help with
hypothyroid problems. 
I don't know how it compares to photographic selenium. 
Hope that is helpful.
 
Carol

Re: CSSelenium questions?

[Teri Kavakos]

Neville,

I don't know if this will help but my supplement is 
50%se-methylselenocysteine, 25% L-selenomethionine and 25% sodium 
selenate.  A total of 200mcg


Teri



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CSSelenium

[Norton, Steve]

Neville,
From another group. Hope this helps. 
 - Steve N

From my recently updated anti-cancer protocol 
http://www.tbyil.com/anticancer.htm :

The best form of supplemental selenium for fighting cancer appears to be 
methylselenocysteine. The most common form of supplemental selenium is 
selenomethionine whose general proteins have no anticancer activity. Another 
form, sodium selenite is more frequently metabolized to the toxic metabolite 
hydrogen selenide (H2Se), which does have anticancer effects but is more toxic 
than selenomethionine. Its primary mode of killing cancer cells (and at high 
levels, normal cells) is through the process of cell necrosis. Cell necrosis 
provokes inflammation and may kill healthy cells along with cancer cells.

The recommended form of selenium, methyselenocysteine is found naturally in 
some vegetables including garlic, brassicas, leeks, and onions, especially when 
these are grown in high selenium soil. Methylselenocysteine is easily converted 
to methylselenol which has been demonstrated to be an effective anticancer form 
of selenium. Rather than killing cancer cells by necrosis, methylselenol kills 
cancer cells through apoptosis. Apoptosis is an orderly process of cellular 
self-destruction that does not provoke inflammatory responses. Methylselenol is 
also known to inhibit angiogenesis in beginning cancer tumors. Angiogenesis, 
the creation of new blood vessels, is necessary for cancer cells to grow into a 
tumor.  For cancer prevention, doses of 200 to 400 mcg of methylselenocysteine 
are generally considered safe without medical supervision. 
Nutritionally-oriented physicians may use as much as 900 to 2,000 mcg selenium 
from methylselenocysteine daily as part of a comprehensive cancer treatment 
protocol.

Tony

Re: CSSelenium

[Neville]

SeleniumThanks for that Teri and Steve, I'll answer you both in one email if 
you don't mind.

I'll read through both of these more and do some more searching of the 
'ingredients' to see what I come up with as this information could be quite 
helpful.

There are predominantly 2 forms of selenium apparently, organic and inorganic, 
and also selenium is stated as being a 'relative' of sulpher.  With this 
information, combined with your and Teri's, and information I haven't 
discovered yet I am trying to build a picture of what selenium is, what it does 
(exactly), and what other ingredients are included which constitutes the 
supplemental form.  I found that apparently it's toxic if taken in excess and 
some articles accuse it of causing a form of diabeties, I think it was type 2, 
it doesn't matter what type anyway the accusation is the main point, and I 
believe it's used for chelation also, (this, I want to research more).

I have to say though that it was when I discovered selenium is used in 
photography that it made me sit up and take notice.  I'm not a scientist but 
just trying to fill in some gaps which are not readily 'fillable' of several 
points where EICS is involved.

Thanks again for that Steve and Teri and I will continue my search for 
additional information.  The quest is endless is it not!  This would be so much 
easier if I was scientifically minded, and spoke the 'lingo' accordingly.

Cheers...Neville.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Norton, Steve 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 1:50 PM
  Subject: CSSelenium


  Neville,
  From another group. Hope this helps.
   - Steve N

  From my recently updated anti-cancer protocol 
http://www.tbyil.com/anticancer.htm :

  The best form of supplemental selenium for fighting cancer appears to be 
methylselenocysteine. The most common form of supplemental selenium is 
selenomethionine whose general proteins have no anticancer activity. Another 
form, sodium selenite is more frequently metabolized to the toxic metabolite 
hydrogen selenide (H2Se), which does have anticancer effects but is more toxic 
than selenomethionine. Its primary mode of killing cancer cells (and at high 
levels, normal cells) is through the process of cell necrosis. Cell necrosis 
provokes inflammation and may kill healthy cells along with cancer cells.

  The recommended form of selenium, methyselenocysteine is found naturally in 
some vegetables including garlic, brassicas, leeks, and onions, especially when 
these are grown in high selenium soil. Methylselenocysteine is easily converted 
to methylselenol which has been demonstrated to be an effective anticancer form 
of selenium. Rather than killing cancer cells by necrosis, methylselenol kills 
cancer cells through apoptosis. Apoptosis is an orderly process of cellular 
self-destruction that does not provoke inflammatory responses. Methylselenol is 
also known to inhibit angiogenesis in beginning cancer tumors. Angiogenesis, 
the creation of new blood vessels, is necessary for cancer cells to grow into a 
tumor.  For cancer prevention, doses of 200 to 400 mcg of methylselenocysteine 
are generally considered safe without medical supervision. 
Nutritionally-oriented physicians may use as much as 900 to 2,000 mcg selenium 
from methylselenocysteine daily as part of a comprehensive cancer treatment 
protocol.

  Tony

CSSelenium questions?

[Neville]

Morning All,

I need to get over the following stumbling blocks so a couple of quick and 
short questions if someone would be so kind...

(1) Is the Selenium taken as a supplement in the form of a sulphide, selenate 
or selenite?  Or perhaps something entirely different?  If 'something 
different', maybe a brief explanation of the difference.

(2) Does the Selenium as used in photography have any similarities to the 
supplemental form of Selenium?...Yes/No/Don't know.  If 'No', maybe the 
non-similarities could be explained a little.

I'm having some difficulty finding appropriate definitions of the various forms 
of Selenium with relation to its use in a supplemental form.

Thanks...N.

Re: CSSelenium questions?

[Carol Monroe]

I've been taking 200 mcg daily of a selenium supplement that says it is 
L-Selenomethionine that my doctor instructed me to take to help with 
hypothyroid problems. 
I don't know how it compares to photographic selenium. 
Hope that is helpful.
 
Carol





From: Neville nevillem...@bigpond.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 5:12:22 PM
Subject: CSSelenium questions?


Morning All,
 
I need to get over the following stumbling blocks so a couple of quick and 
short questions if someone would be so kind...
 
(1) Is the Selenium taken as a supplement in the form of a sulphide, selenate 
or selenite?  Or perhaps something entirely different?  If 'something 
different', maybe a brief explanation of the difference.
 
(2) Does the Selenium as used in photography have any similarities to the 
supplemental form of Selenium?...Yes/No/Don't know.  If 'No', maybe the 
non-similarities could be explained a little.
 
I'm having some difficulty finding appropriate definitions of the various forms 
of Selenium with relation to its use in a supplemental form.
 
Thanks...N.

Re: CSSelenium questions?

[Gene Wolfe]

http://www.swansonvitamins.com has this product. They have 300 
capsules with 100 mcg for $4.99.


Gene

At 04:50 PM 12/28/2008, you wrote:
I've been taking 200 mcg daily of a selenium supplement that says it 
is L-Selenomethionine that my doctor instructed me to take to help 
with hypothyroid problems.

I don't know how it compares to photographic selenium.
Hope that is helpful.



Carol



From: Neville nevillem...@bigpond.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 5:12:22 PM
Subject: CSSelenium questions?

Morning All,

I need to get over the following stumbling blocks so a couple of 
quick and short questions if someone would be so kind...


(1) Is the Selenium taken as a supplement in the form of a sulphide, 
selenate or selenite?  Or perhaps something entirely different?  If 
'something different', maybe a brief explanation of the difference.


(2) Does the Selenium as used in photography have any similarities 
to the supplemental form of Selenium?...Yes/No/Don't know.  If 'No', 
maybe the non-similarities could be explained a little.


I'm having some difficulty finding appropriate definitions of the 
various forms of Selenium with relation to its use in a supplemental form.


Thanks...N.

Re: CSSelenium questions?

[Neville]

Thanks Carol and Gene, I'm not looking to purchase any, just trying to 
establish what form of it is used as a supplement and what combination of 
ingredients constitute the supplemental form that's all.

Neville.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gene Wolfe 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 9:44 AM
  Subject: Re: CSSelenium questions?


  http://www.swansonvitamins.com has this product. They have 300 capsules with 
100 mcg for $4.99. 

  Gene

  At 04:50 PM 12/28/2008, you wrote:

I've been taking 200 mcg daily of a selenium supplement that says it is 
L-Selenomethionine that my doctor instructed me to take to help with 
hypothyroid problems. 
I don't know how it compares to photographic selenium. 
Hope that is helpful.

 

Carol



From: Neville nevillem...@bigpond.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 5:12:22 PM
Subject: CSSelenium questions?

Morning All,
 
I need to get over the following stumbling blocks so a couple of quick and 
short questions if someone would be so kind...
 
(1) Is the Selenium taken as a supplement in the form of a sulphide, 
selenate or selenite?  Or perhaps something entirely different?  If 'something 
different', maybe a brief explanation of the difference.
 
(2) Does the Selenium as used in photography have any similarities to the 
supplemental form of Selenium?...Yes/No/Don't know.  If 'No', maybe the 
non-similarities could be explained a little.
 
I'm having some difficulty finding appropriate definitions of the various 
forms of Selenium with relation to its use in a supplemental form.
 
Thanks...N. 

CSSelenium (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC]

Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE
 

Is there any difference between the soft gel and regular tablets of
Selenium.
The advertise that the soft gels are more absorbable.

  Bob
 
Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE

Re: CSSelenium (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Dee]

The most bioavailable form of selenium is l-selenomethionine which is what I
bought in tablet form.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC
Date: 03/31/08 11:51:40
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSSelenium (UNCLASSIFIED)
 
Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE 
  
Is there any difference between the soft gel and regular tablets of Selenium
 
The advertise that the soft gels are more absorbable. 
  Bob 
  

CSselenium to mike D

[zeb caffe]

Thanks Mike for answering my question;.That is very good information to have as 
I see selenium mentioned on many forums. 

   
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Re: CSSelenium

[Marshall Dudley]

Be sure to check any supplements you are taking. I was taking selenium 
until I noticed that the Prosta Response I was taking had as much as I 
was wanting to take in it already, so I stopped the straight selenium.


Marshall

M. G. Devour wrote:
As others have hinted, you can get too much selenium. Dr. Huggins, of 
dental revision fame, has seen negative effects on blood morphology 
from doses as small as 25 micrograms per day or less.


I don't say you should restrict yourself to that amount, 50 to 100 per 
day would be something I'd consider if I were attacking argyria myself, 
just be aware that more is not better, beyond a certain point.


Be well,

Mike D.


  

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What dose should I take to help get rid of the excess CS (silver) in
my system. Bob 

  

Hi Bob,
Take selenium and Vit E together. 


It doesn't take much selenium to get the process going. something like
50 micrograms up to 200 micrograms, per day. That is MICRO  which is a
millionth of a gram. Not miIligrams which are thousanths of a gram. Its
an order of magnitude difference. 


hth,
Tony


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Re: CSSelenium

[M. G. Devour]

As others have hinted, you can get too much selenium. Dr. Huggins, of 
dental revision fame, has seen negative effects on blood morphology 
from doses as small as 25 micrograms per day or less.

I don't say you should restrict yourself to that amount, 50 to 100 per 
day would be something I'd consider if I were attacking argyria myself, 
just be aware that more is not better, beyond a certain point.

Be well,

Mike D.


 On 7 Jan 2008 at 19:18, sickleave48...@aol.com wrote about :
 Subject : CSSelenium
 
  
  What dose should I take to help get rid of the excess CS (silver) in
  my system. Bob 
  
 
 Hi Bob,
 Take selenium and Vit E together. 
 
 It doesn't take much selenium to get the process going. something like
 50 micrograms up to 200 micrograms, per day. That is MICRO  which is a
 millionth of a gram. Not miIligrams which are thousanths of a gram. Its
 an order of magnitude difference. 
 
 hth,
 Tony
 
 
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RE: CSSelenium

[Brenda Cochran]

How do you know you have too much CS in your system?  How much is too much?
Does Vit E and Selenium really work?
Brenda



-Original Message-
From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 3:37 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSelenium

As others have hinted, you can get too much selenium. Dr. Huggins, of 
dental revision fame, has seen negative effects on blood morphology 
from doses as small as 25 micrograms per day or less.

I don't say you should restrict yourself to that amount, 50 to 100 per 
day would be something I'd consider if I were attacking argyria myself, 
just be aware that more is not better, beyond a certain point.

Be well,

Mike D.


 On 7 Jan 2008 at 19:18, sickleave48...@aol.com wrote about :
 Subject : CSSelenium
 
  
  What dose should I take to help get rid of the excess CS (silver) in
  my system. Bob 
  
 
 Hi Bob,
 Take selenium and Vit E together. 
 
 It doesn't take much selenium to get the process going. something like
 50 micrograms up to 200 micrograms, per day. That is MICRO  which is a
 millionth of a gram. Not miIligrams which are thousanths of a gram. Its
 an order of magnitude difference. 
 
 hth,
 Tony
 
 
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Re: CSSelenium

[Del]

I posted this quote from Jonathan Wright last month in response to this 
question.

In our opinion, he is one of the best sources for this type of information.

Selenium. Garlic and onions are the only common foods high in selenium, so 
if you're not allergic to them, include plenty in your diet -- along with 
the ginger. And I also recommend supplementing the onions and garlic with 
200-500 micrograms of selenium daily. But don't overdo it; it is possible to 
overdose at quantities of 1,500 to 2,000 micrograms daily.


Please note that these are MICRO not milli-grams.

Del

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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: CSSelenium



As others have hinted, you can get too much selenium. Dr. Huggins, of
dental revision fame, has seen negative effects on blood morphology
from doses as small as 25 micrograms per day or less.

I don't say you should restrict yourself to that amount, 50 to 100 per
day would be something I'd consider if I were attacking argyria myself,
just be aware that more is not better, beyond a certain point.

Be well,

Mike D.






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RE: CSSelenium

[Dan Nave]

You know you've had too much if you turn blue...

Seriously, some people have noticed the moons of their fingernails 
turning blue after taking a lot of silver.  This may be a good first
indicator. 

Dan

 -Original Message-
 From: Brenda Cochran [mailto:brendacoch...@charter.net] 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 3:19 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: CSSelenium
 
 How do you know you have too much CS in your system?  How 
 much is too much?
 Does Vit E and Selenium really work?
 Brenda
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 3:37 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSSelenium
 
 As others have hinted, you can get too much selenium. Dr. 
 Huggins, of dental revision fame, has seen negative effects 
 on blood morphology from doses as small as 25 micrograms per 
 day or less.
 
 I don't say you should restrict yourself to that amount, 50 
 to 100 per day would be something I'd consider if I were 
 attacking argyria myself, just be aware that more is not 
 better, beyond a certain point.
 
 Be well,
 
 Mike D.


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Re: CSSelenium

[Dee]

I think up  to 400mcgs is acceptable.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: sickleave48...@aol.com
Date: 01/08/08 00:30:38
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSSelenium
 
What dose should I take to help get rid of the excess CS (silver) in my
system.
Bob






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Re: CSSelenium

[Tony Moody]

On 7 Jan 2008 at 19:18, sickleave48...@aol.com wrote about :
Subject : CSSelenium

 
 What dose should I take to help get rid of the excess CS (silver) in my 
 system. 
 Bob 
 

Hi Bob,
Take selenium and Vit E together. 

It doesn't take much selenium to get the process going. something like 50 
micrograms up to 
200 micrograms, per day. That is MICRO  which is a millionth of a gram. Not 
miIligrams 
which are thousanths of a gram. Its an order of magnitude difference. 

hth,
Tony


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Re: CSSelenium

[Dee]

IHerb -   Now Foods is in the l-selenomethionine version, which is the
easiest to assimilate.  It is really reasonable cost and super fast delivery
  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: sickleave48...@aol.com
Date: 07/01/2008 01:03:55
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSSelenium
 
What is cheapest place to buy Selenium
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Re: CSSelenium

[faith gagne]

Dee, do you order NOW by mail?  Thaks.  Faith G.


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  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 10:39 AM
  Subject: Re: CSSelenium


IHerb -   Now Foods is in the l-selenomethionine version, which is the 
easiest to assimilate.  It is really reasonable cost and super fast delivery.  
Dee 

---Original Message---

From: sickleave48...@aol.com
Date: 07/01/2008 01:03:55
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSSelenium

What is cheapest place to buy Selenium
Bob



   
   
   
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Re: CSSelenium

[Dee]

Hi Faith, I order it online from iHerb http://www.iherb.com/ProductsList
aspx?c=1cid=2235 as I am in the UK.  Even with the postage it is still
cheaper than ordering in the UK and also, I can't get this sort of thing
here.  It is really, really fast delivery and very reasonable.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: faith gagne
Date: 07/01/2008 19:50:34
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSelenium
 
Dee, do you order NOW by mail?  Thaks.  Faith G.
 
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CSSelenium

[Sickleave48045]

What dose should I take to help get rid of the excess CS (silver) in my  
system.
Bob



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Re: CSSelenium

[cking001]

On 1/7/2008 7:18:40 PM, sickleave48...@aol.com wrote:
 What dose should I take to help get rid of the excess CS (silver) in my
 system.
 Bob


Selenium is a metal and excessive doses can be serious.
Do not trivialize without investigation.

I have seen doses up to 400 MICROgrams listed as safe.

Personally, my dosage is 200 micrograms/day.

Chuck
Half of what I know today will be obsolete in five years
--I'd just like to know which half


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Re: CSSelenium

[faith gagne]

Hi Dee.  Thanks..  Faith G.
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  From: Dee 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:20 PM
  Subject: Re: CSSelenium


Hi Faith, I order it online from iHerb 
http://www.iherb.com/ProductsList.aspx?c=1cid=2235 as I am in the UK.  Even 
with the postage it is still cheaper than ordering in the UK and also, I can't 
get this sort of thing here.  It is really, really fast delivery and very 
reasonable.  Dee 

---Original Message---

From: faith gagne
Date: 07/01/2008 19:50:34
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSelenium

Dee, do you order NOW by mail?  Thaks.  Faith G.


   
   
   
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CSSelenium

[Sickleave48045]

What is cheapest place to buy Selenium
Bob



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CSSelenium Yeast, Epicor, XPC LS

[Dan Nave]

There is a new product out called Epicor which is a selenium
yeast product which is supposed to increase immunity.  Also 
is a good source of selenium.  See:


http://www.naturodoc.com/library/cancer/epicor.htm


This is the same product basically as the animal feed
product (original results were noticed by workers breathing
in dust from this process and having reduced incidence of
absenteeism due to illness).

One could use the animal feed product at a fraction of the
price.  I had this idea and I notice that Dr. David Williams
is  saying the same thing, so that makes it alright...  He
is recommending 1 to 3 gm of XPC LS for an adult (the LS
indicates suitable for use in organic feeding)

You should be able to get a feed store to order it in a 50
pound bag or Diamond V indicates:

Nutra Blend will carry both products, to order direct call
1-800-657-5657.

I notice it is already being sold on Ebay in 5 lb lots:

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmkmk932

Product profile (I expect it should be the same as the LS):

http://www.diamondv.com/products/profiles/Product_Profile_XPC_6-06.pdf

This could be fed to a horse, pets, and conceivably, family.


Dan



Re: CSRebuttals please

Marshall Dudley wrote:

marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote:
The following post came through one of my equine lists.  Can anyone 
here comment on this please?  MA
 
I caution anyone using the Colloidal silver for an extended 
period of time. It depletes the body

of selenium. I have personaly used it on my lyme disease
gelding, and this was how I found it out. I now do NOT give
Especial any CS at all. 
 
Colloidal Silver does tend to bind with, and cause to be excreted 
increased amounts of selenium. That is why it is recommended if taking 
CS over extended amounts of time, to be sure and supplement with 
selenium.  Not a big deal.


Marshall



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CSSelenium Yeast, Epicor, XPC LS

[Dan Nave]

(I expect this is something that Brooks Bradley's group 
would be interested in researching.  I would be interested 
in their results if they do.)


There is a new product out called Epicor which is a selenium 
yeast product which is supposed to increase immunity.  See:


http://www.naturodoc.com/library/cancer/epicor.htm


This is the same product basically as the animal feed 
product (original results were noticed by workers breathing 
in dust from this process and having reduced incidence of 
absenteeism due to illness).


One could use the animal feed product at a fraction of the 
price.  I had this idea and I notice that Dr. David Williams 
is  saying the same thing, so that makes it alright...  He 
is recommending 1 to 3 gm of XPC LS for an adult (the LS 
indicates suitable for use in organic feeding)


You should be able to get a feed store to order it in a 50 
pound bag or Diamond V indicates:


Nutra Blend will carry both products, to order direct call 
1-800-657-5657.


I notice it is already being sold on Ebay in 5 lb lots:

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmkmk932

Product profile (I expect it should be the same as the LS):

http://www.diamondv.com/products/profiles/Product_Profile_XPC_6-06.pdf

This could be fed to a horse, pets, and conceivably, family.


Dan



Re: CSRebuttals please

Marshall Dudley wrote:

marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote:
The following post came through one of my equine lists.  Can anyone 
here comment on this please?  MA
 
I caution anyone using the Colloidal silver for an extended 
period of time. It depletes the body

of selenium. I have personaly used it on my lyme disease
gelding, and this was how I found it out. I now do NOT give
Especial any CS at all. 
 
Colloidal Silver does tend to bind with, and cause to be excreted 
increased amounts of selenium. That is why it is recommended if taking 
CS over extended amounts of time, to be sure and supplement with 
selenium.  Not a big deal.


Marshall



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Re: CSSelenium and mixed nuts.

[M. G. Devour]

 I'm posting this again to see if it will appear with a subject title 
 this time. It should say 'Selenium and mixed nuts'.  Has anyone  worked
 out why subject titles sometimes disappear?
 
 David

Nope! It's just one of those things I look forward to disappearing when 
I move us to the new software platform... grin

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CSSelenium and mixed nuts.

[david]

I'm posting this again to see if it will appear with a subject title  
this time. It should say 'Selenium and mixed nuts'.  Has anyone  
worked out why subject titles sometimes disappear?


David






Yep, brazils for selenium, and almonds for vitamin E.

http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitamine.asp

Now I hope cashews are good for something. ahhh great they have  
magnesium and zinc.


http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Magnesium_pf.asp

http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/cc/zinc.html#3


Hello V ... is that 4 Brazils for the daily allowance, or 4 nuts to  
the ounce? We don't use ozs here anymore so I've lost touch with  
them. You wouldn't get 40 brazils to the oz  would you?


David



It's recommended to take Vit E with Selenium, work ; Almonds are  
said to be high in Vit E...  trail mix in the making   ? ;)


Hanneke



Hi alchemySA,

4 nuts

Take care,
 V


 1 oz of Brazil nuts provides about 10 times the daily  
requirement of
 Selenium . So 1 nut a day should suffice. Much cheaper and  
safer than

 pills. Tuna's a good source too.

 http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/selenium.asp

 David

CSSelenium / Brazil nuts

[alchemySA]

1 oz of Brazil nuts provides about 10 times the daily requirement of 
Selenium . So 1 nut a day should suffice. Much cheaper and safer than 
pills. Tuna's a good source too.


http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/selenium.asp

David




Subject:
CSOver dose/gray face
From:
Medwith, Robert robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil
Date:
Mon, 27 Feb 2006 06:52:55 -0500
To:
'cs' silver-list@eskimo.com

To:
'cs' silver-list@eskimo.com


Thanks to every one for your saugestions.
I am going to try Vit E and the Selenium for now.
Stupid question what is Selenium and where can I get it.
 
   Bob




Subject:
Re: CSOver dose/gray face
From:
G  K Murray kg...@sasktel.net
Date:
Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:21:55 -0600
To:
silver-list@eskimo.com

To:
silver-list@eskimo.com


Health food store or any drugstore vitamin and mineral section.  It is 
an essential mineral.


Medwith, Robert wrote:


Thanks to every one for your saugestions.
I am going to try Vit E and the Selenium for now.
Stupid question what is Selenium and where can I get it.
 
   Bob

Re: CSSelenium / Brazil nuts

[V]

Hi alchemySA,

4 nuts




Take care,
 V


 1 oz of Brazil nuts provides about 10 times the daily requirement of 
 Selenium . So 1 nut a day should suffice. Much cheaper and safer than 
 pills. Tuna's a good source too.

 http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/selenium.asp

 David



 Subject:
 CSOver dose/gray face
 From:
 Medwith, Robert robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil
 Date:
 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 06:52:55 -0500
 To:
 'cs' silver-list@eskimo.com

 To:
 'cs' silver-list@eskimo.com


 Thanks to every one for your saugestions.
 I am going to try Vit E and the Selenium for now.
 Stupid question what is Selenium and where can I get it.
  
Bob

 

 Subject:
 Re: CSOver dose/gray face
 From:
 G  K Murray kg...@sasktel.net
 Date:
 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:21:55 -0600
 To:
 silver-list@eskimo.com

 To:
 silver-list@eskimo.com


 Health food store or any drugstore vitamin and mineral section.  It is 
 an essential mineral.

 Medwith, Robert wrote:

 Thanks to every one for your saugestions.
 I am going to try Vit E and the Selenium for now.
 Stupid question what is Selenium and where can I get it.
  
Bob




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Re: CSSelenium / Brazil nuts

[Hannah]

It's recommended to take Vit E with Selenium, work ; Almonds are said to
be high in Vit E... trail mix in the
making ? ;)
Hanneke
At 07:36 PM 28/02/2006, you wrote:
Hi alchemySA,
4 nuts


Take care,
V

 1 oz of Brazil nuts provides about 10 times the daily requirement of

 Selenium . So 1 nut a day should suffice. Much cheaper and safer
than 
 pills. Tuna's a good source too.


http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/selenium.asp
 David

 Subject:
 CSOver dose/gray face
 From:
 Medwith, Robert
robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil
 Date:
 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 06:52:55 -0500
 To:
 'cs' silver-list@eskimo.com
 To:
 'cs' silver-list@eskimo.com

 Thanks to every one for your saugestions.
 I am going to try Vit E and the Selenium for now.
 Stupid question what is Selenium and where can I get it.
 
 Bob



 Subject:
 Re: CSOver dose/gray face
 From:
 G  K Murray kg...@sasktel.net
 Date:
 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:21:55 -0600
 To:
 silver-list@eskimo.com
 To:
 silver-list@eskimo.com

 Health food store or any drugstore vitamin and mineral
section. It is 
 an essential mineral.
 Medwith, Robert wrote:
 Thanks to every one for your saugestions.
 I am going to try Vit E and the Selenium for now.
 Stupid question what is Selenium and where can I get
it.
 
 Bob


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Re: CSSelenium / Brazil nuts

[Sandee George]

Thanks for this one, I have some in my nut tray so as of today I
will be eating one per day for metal clearing - thanks for this info.
Regards
Sandee


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Re: CSSelenium / Brazil nuts

[Marshall Dudley]

Thanks for that information, I have put that link and information on
Brazil nuts on my site.

Marshall

alchemySA wrote:

 1 oz of Brazil nuts provides about 10 times the daily requirement of
 Selenium . So 1 nut a day should suffice. Much cheaper and safer than
 pills. Tuna's a good source too.

 http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/selenium.asp

 David





   Subject:
   CSOver dose/gray face
   From:
   Medwith, Robert robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil
   Date:
   Mon, 27 Feb 2006 06:52:55 -0500
   To:
   'cs' silver-list@eskimo.com

   To:
   'cs' silver-list@eskimo.com
 Thanks to every one for your saugestions.I am going to try Vit E and
 the Selenium for now.Stupid question what is Selenium and where can
 I get it.   Bob


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   Subject:
   Re: CSOver dose/gray face
   From:
   G  K Murray kg...@sasktel.net
   Date:
   Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:21:55 -0600
   To:
   silver-list@eskimo.com

   To:
   silver-list@eskimo.com

 Health food store or any drugstore vitamin and mineral section.  It
 is an essential mineral.

 Medwith, Robert wrote:

  Thanks to every one for your saugestions.I am going to try Vit E
  and the Selenium for now.Stupid question what is Selenium and where
  can I get it.   Bob

Re: CSselenium, vitamin E, and CS

[C Creel]

If you're taking 400 mg. of selenuim you're going to get to meet those grest 
inventors soner than you thought, lol.



  H...if I didn't know any better I'd think I was drunk, lol.  Time to go 
to bed.  The fingers have stopped cooperating with the brain.

C

Re: CSselenium depletion/pat

[Maja Hristozova]

Yep
It's much clearer now. I understand the selenium bit,
but I think I'm confusing the words - I thought
'deposit' is something like 'store' and so we should
avoid staffing our body with silver. I think you mean
more like 'reach'. But does the silver actually stay
in the body tissues? I thought one of its advantages
is that it doesn't get stored in the body as the other
antibiotics (and thus doesn't damage the liver) but
just 'passes by', kills the bugs and gets out.. 

Maia


--- INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET pfsing...@msn.com wrote:
 ok don't take this for face value. it' just a
 thought of mine.
 
 your body needs selenium. it's a mineral.
 now if colloidal silver uses selenium to be
 deposited into body tissue then i would think that
 more selenium is being used up. this would call for
 more selenium to be used as a supplement because of
 what your body needs PLUS the selenium the colloidal
 silver is using. (since colloidal silver is also a
 supplement)
 bacteria infects body tissue that have weak ph
 levels so i thought that the body would probably
 direct more of the colloidal silver towards body
 tissue that is infected and since selenium helps the
 body deposit the colloidal silver it would make
 sense that more is being used.
 
 i think this should explain it better. don't feel
 sorry. we're all here to learn or teach. i'm still
 in the process of learning. as you can tell i get
 corrected alot.  
 pat  
 

===
 Hi Pat
 I got lost here...
 Can you please explain it as for a simple (not a
 native English) audience... sorry.. I'm just a new
 subscriber and don't know much...
 
  to me it would make sense that selenium would be
  depleted due to the use of CS.
 
 Yes...
 
  if with the help of selenium it deposits more CS
 into body tissue then that would mean more selenium
 is being used in addition to the selenium your body
 is already processing.
 
 I thought CS is only deposited in the body tissues
 when it doesn't bond with the selenium, so the CS
 (kind of) gets stored in the body tissues?
 
  plus since bacteria likes to set up
  shop in weak ph levels of body tissue then there
  would be more of a need for CS to be distributed
 to
  those areas and with the help of selenium your
 body
  can deposit more.  
 
 So you actually mean that depositing CS in the body
 tissues is good because it changes the PH and the
 bacteria don't like those areas?  
   
  pat
 
 
 Thanks,
 Maia  
 
   
 


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Re: CSselenium, vitamin E, and CS

[David Bearrow]

I've heard them referred to as the 4 ACES. Vitamin A, Vitamin C, Vitamin E, 
and Selenium. They should all be taken together.


At 11:27 PM 4/9/03, you wrote:
i was reading that vitamin E complements selenium and since selenium i 
guess compliments CS it might be a good combination to start taking 
together. the only thing I don't know is how much of each. i take 1000 mg 
of vitamin E, 400 mg of selenium, and 8oz of somewhere between 5-10 ppm of 
CS.



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Re: CSselenium, vitamin E, and CS

[INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET]

really? I was about to up the dosage to 600 mg. whoa better lower it huh. what 
do you recommend?

see i read that when you take it as a pill it is not as effective as if it were 
in the ionic form, so i upped the dose. thanx for the info.
  

- Original Message -
From: C Creel
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 2:07 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSselenium, vitamin E, and CS

If you're taking 400 mg. of selenuim you're going to get to meet those grest 
inventors soner than you thought, lol.



  H...if I didn't know any better I'd think I was drunk, lol.  Time to go 
to bed.  The fingers have stopped cooperating with the brain.

C

Re: CSselenium, vitamin E, and CS

[INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET]

your right. 400 MCG not MG. I need to pay attention to detail a little bit more.
what do you recommend for a dosage. I also take 1000 IU of Vitamin E, and 500 
mg of calcium. I plan to start the vitamin A real soon. how much?   

- Original Message -
From: C Creel
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:59 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSselenium, vitamin E, and CS

Dear Pat,

  You said:

i was reading that vitamin E complements selenium and since selenium i guess 
compliments CS it might be a good combination to start taking together. the 
only thing I don't know is how much of each. i take 1000 mg of vitamin E, 400 
mg of selenium, and 8oz of somewhere between 5-10 ppm of CS.  


  I think you must mean micrograms (mcg) of selenium, not milligrams (mg).  If 
you're taking 400 mg. of selenuim you're going to get to meet those grest 
inventors soner than you thought, lol.

Regards,
Catherine

Re: CSselenium, vitamin E, and CS

[C Creel]

Dear Pat,


  You said:

your right. 400 MCG not MG. I need to pay attention to detail a little bit 
more.
what do you recommend for a dosage. I also take 1000 IU of Vitamin E, and 500 
mg of calcium. I plan to start the vitamin A real soon. how much?  


   That's not something I could tell you without knowing more about you.
Nutrient doses should be tailored to the individual.

Regards,
Catherine

Re: CSselenium, vitamin E, and CS

[CKing001]

Slow down Pat!!!

If you're gonna screw with megadoses, you had better be researching toxicities.
Metals are especially dangerous with small windows for error.

You'll find FDA recommendations too low for optimum, but you damnwell better
find out what a dangerous dose is!

Here's a clue, most metal supplements are made up in MICROGRAM doses.

Recommended copper, for example, is only 3mcg daily.

If you told your doctor that you were taking 1 gram of E daily, he tell you to
cut it (mine did, I didn't).

Chuck
A computer's attention span is as long as its power cord.

On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 16:02:51 -0400, INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET pfsing...@msn.com
wrote:

really? I was about to up the dosage to 600 mg. whoa better lower it huh. what 
do you recommend?

see i read that when you take it as a pill it is not as effective as if it 
were in the ionic form, so i upped the dose. thanx for the info.
  


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Re: CSselenium, vitamin E, and CS

[INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET]

ummm yah I'm gonna have to re-evaluate the dosages of the vitamins I'm taking, 
before I kill myself with out having ever done something great. I take about 18 
different vitamins. maybe 20. I kind of just make up my dosages. I don't have 
any deadly disease. but a lot of mental deficiencies so to speak i just want to 
be healthy as an ox. hey maybe you can do an article in one of your daily 
e-mail articles you send out. I'll be sure to look out for it if you plan on 
doing it.   
thanx pat

- Original Message -
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 5:29 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSselenium, vitamin E, and CS


Slow down Pat!!!

If you're gonna screw with megadoses, you had better be researching toxicities.
Metals are especially dangerous with small windows for error.

You'll find FDA recommendations too low for optimum, but you damnwell better
find out what a dangerous dose is!

Here's a clue, most metal supplements are made up in MICROGRAM doses.

Recommended copper, for example, is only 3mcg daily.

If you told your doctor that you were taking 1 gram of E daily, he tell you to
cut it (mine did, I didn't).

Chuck
A computer's attention span is as long as its power cord.

On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 16:02:51 -0400, INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET pfsing...@msn.com
wrote:

really? I was about to up the dosage to 600 mg. whoa better lower it huh. what 
do you recommend?

see i read that when you take it as a pill it is not as effective as if it 
were in the ionic form, so i upped the dose. thanx for the info.
   


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Re: CSselenium, vitamin E, and CS

[C Creel]

Dear Pat,


  You said:

I don't have any deadly disease. but a lot of mental deficiencies so to 
speak


Give me some in-depth details on this.  This is my field.  I've been 
working with ortomolecular therapy with people for years.

  You can send it privately to ccr...@adelphia.net

Regards,
Catherine

Re: CSselenium, vitamin E, and CS

[Bill Missett]

Here's a little advice from a 55-year user of vitamins, minerals,
nutritional supplements, etc.:

Before venturing into the land of self megadosing, you need to acquaint
yourself with the voluminous material on the extensive subject, and also
establish a sensible protocol for yourself.  I am not criticizing you, just
advocating a sane approach.  Yours is a common mistake -- the if 1 gram is
good, 10 grams must be great! mentality, which I was guilty of myself many
years ago.

Chuck is 100 percent right in his advice.  Intake of certain nutritional
supplements requires restraint, even though the vitamin manufacturers are
not as informed of these dangers as they should be.  Certain physical
conditions determine certain sane intake dosages of certain substances.
Heavily-promoted iron, for instance, is dangerous in high dosages.

On the subject of Vit. E,  I took 1g daily for years until reading a serious
research report some years ago that this intake was not healthy, and reduced
my intake to the sane high dosage of 400mg daily.

I have been taking vitamins, etc., since the age of 7, when I was diagnosed
by teachers and doctors as low energy which resulted in inattention in
class.  They moved me to the front row and started giving me gagatacious
liver extract (it tasted like pureed liver).   I am now 63 and still
learning.

Take it further -- educate yourself and proceed cautiously, with lower
dosages for trial periods to determine if you see any results, and if you
don't in 30-60 days, increase your dosage to the next level.  Don't catapult
the dosages.

I hope these cautions are taken to heart, because they are offered with your
best intentions at heart.




- Original Message -
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: CSselenium, vitamin E, and CS



 Slow down Pat!!!

 If you're gonna screw with megadoses, you had better be researching
toxicities.
 Metals are especially dangerous with small windows for error.

 You'll find FDA recommendations too low for optimum, but you damnwell
better
 find out what a dangerous dose is!

 Here's a clue, most metal supplements are made up in MICROGRAM doses.

 Recommended copper, for example, is only 3mcg daily.

 If you told your doctor that you were taking 1 gram of E daily, he tell
you to
 cut it (mine did, I didn't).

 Chuck
 A computer's attention span is as long as its power cord.

 On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 16:02:51 -0400, INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET
pfsing...@msn.com
 wrote:

 really? I was about to up the dosage to 600 mg. whoa better lower it huh.
what do you recommend?
 
 see i read that when you take it as a pill it is not as effective as if
it were in the ionic form, so i upped the dose. thanx for the info.
 


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Re: CSselenium, vitamin E, and CS

[Bill Missett]

Congratulations, Catherine, for so freely giving your assistance...
  - Original Message - 
  From: C Creel 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 5:38 PM
  Subject: Re: CSselenium, vitamin E, and CS


  Dear Pat,


You said:

  I don't have any deadly disease. but a lot of mental deficiencies so to 
speak


  Give me some in-depth details on this.  This is my field.  I've been 
working with ortomolecular therapy with people for years.

You can send it privately to ccr...@adelphia.net

  Regards,
  Catherine

Re: CSselenium, vitamin E, and CS

[INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET]

I hear ya!
pat

- Original Message -
From: Bill Missett
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 8:48 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSselenium, vitamin E, and CS

Here's a little advice from a 55-year user of vitamins, minerals,
nutritional supplements, etc.:

Before venturing into the land of self mega dosing, you need to acquaint
yourself with the voluminous material on the extensive subject, and also
establish a sensible protocol for yourself.  I am not criticizing you, just
advocating a sane approach.  Yours is a common mistake -- the if 1 gram is
good, 10 grams must be great! mentality, which I was guilty of myself many
years ago.
snipp

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Re: CSselenium, vitamin E, and CS

[sol]

Bill,
  That is great advice for anyone. I'd just like to add, that one can't just 
read X is good for Y and begin taking X without knowing something about the 
synergy of how and what X works with. Taking supplements of one vitamin, 
mineral, etc without also supplementing its complements can really get things 
screwed up and create more deficencies that it helps. 
  Calcium metabolism is a good example. It is much more complicated than just 
taking megadoses of calcium.
paula
  
  - Original Message -
From: Bill Missett
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 8:48 PM
Here's a little advice from a 55-year user of vitamins, minerals,
nutritional supplements, etc.:

Before venturing into the land of self mega dosing, you need to acquaint
yourself with the voluminous material on the extensive subject, and also
establish a sensible protocol for yourself.  I am not criticizing you, just
advocating a sane approach.  Yours is a common mistake -- the if 1 gram is
good, 10 grams must be great! mentality, which I was guilty of myself many
years ago.

Re: CSselenium, vitamin E, and CS

[Dean Miller]

On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 16:09:12 -0400, INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET
pfsing...@msn.com wrote:

your right. 400 MCG not MG. I need to pay attention to detail a little bit 
more.
what do you recommend for a dosage. I also take 1000 IU of Vitamin E, and 500 
mg of calcium. I plan to start the vitamin A real soon. how much?   

You may not need so much calcium.  Instead, I might suggest looking
into organic silica (that's what does the job, not calcium).

-- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF


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Re: CSSelenium??

[Tony Moody]

Hi Marshalee,
To chip in here.

I have read that taking selenium may prevent argyria.

The email below sounds as though someone has the bull by the wrong end.
Regards,
Tony

mamapug wrote:



 I thought I read that selenium supplementation is a very good idea when
one takes CS as the CS depletes selenium as part of the way it kills
bacteria, etc? So if one does not have a sufficient level of selenium the


CS


might not be as effective? And I have read over and over that virtually


all


U.S. soils are selenium deficient, so most americans don't get enough in


the


first place. H, wonder if selenium or lack thereof has to do with why
some people experience thrush infections from using CS?
paula



How can you get thrush, when CS kills it??
I`ve been on CS for 7 years straight now, and never had thrush or anything
like it. (I did have it 24 years ago when nursing baby number 4. Before I
knew about CS.)
Also where did you hear that silver depletes selenium? That`s a new one...
Marshalee


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CSSelenium

[Wetterauer, Letitia [MWPS]]

Selenium is essential for the conversion of thyroid hormone T4 to T3. T3 is the 
one that does most of the work of energy production. So, low selenium can 
result in hypothyroidism. You don't want that, believe me. It'll ruin your 
health.

Tish


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Re: CSSelenium

[C Creel]

Selenium is essential for the conversion of thyroid hormone T4 to T3. T3
is the one that does most of the work of energy production. So, low selenium
can result in hypothyroidism. You don't want that, believe me. It'll ruin
your health.


  So the key to avoiding selenium depletion is supplementing with selenium
if taking CS on a regular basis.

  There are very few beneficial things in this world that do not have some
drawbacks.  The goal would be to utilize the substances whose drawbacks can
be easily remedies=d, like this one.

Regards,
Catherine


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Re: CSSelenium??

[sol]

Jason,
  Thanks for setting me straight. Sorry if my confusion mislead anyone.
sol
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From: Jason Eaton ey...@lvcm.com


 The original information can be viewed in both the EPA RISK studies and
the
 World Health Organization's Silver Food Additive Series document.

.  Both documents can be found at our silvermedicine.org
 website.





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Re: CSSelenium??

[mamapug]

Well, this is interesting to say the least! There is selenium in my
vitamin/minerals, which I take just before bedtime. I guess the silver works
in the day, and the selenium at night!
Marshalee

 Marshalee,
   I can't remember where I read about CS depleting selenium, it was an
 article or email that went into how CS ions are thought to attach to cells
 of bacteria, and the exhanges that take place that allow that to happen.
It
 was above my understanding, but I remember reading that selenium is
 involved.I was hoping someone would recognize it and know where to
find
 the original info. Doesn't turn up in a search of my saved emails, so it
 must  have been on a website.
 Several people (some I think on this list and some on CS2) have posted
that
 when they take CS or when they take a certain amount of CS orally, they
get
 thrush. I don't, but ever since I read the first post about it, I've
 wondered what could be happening, or what is different with the person,
the
 diet, the CS, that could cause it. I have intestinal candida, take CS to
 help with it, which it does, and have been taking it daily for about 8
 months now, and have never gotten thrush. However, people who say they
have
 gotten thrush and think it is a result of CS use are absolutely adamant
 about the connection. Myself, I believe CS kills candida, so how it would
 cause a thrush infection is more than I can figure. But I don't think
 these people are lying, so something must be going on. What, though?
 paula
 - Original Message -
 From: mamapug mama...@netzero.net
  How can you get thrush, when CS kills it??
  I`ve been on CS for 7 years straight now, and never had thrush or
anything
  like it. (I did have it 24 years ago when nursing baby number 4. Before
I
  knew about CS.)
  Also where did you hear that silver depletes selenium? That`s a new
one...
  Marshalee





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Re: CSSelenium depletion??

[INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET]

Marshalee,

to me it would make sense that selenium would be depleted due to the use of CS. 
if with the help of selenium it deposits more CS into body tissue then that 
would mean more selenium is being used in addition to the selenium your body is 
already processing. plus since bacteria likes to set up shop in weak ph 
levels of body tissue then there would be more of a need for CS to be 
distributed to those areas and with the help of selenium your body can deposit 
more. just a thought.

pat

snipp
Another researcher conclusively demonstrated that an excess amount in
selenium can increase the risk of argyria, as silver when combined  
selenium
in the body was shown to deposit more silver into body tissues, when
compared with the same amounts of silver used in rats without excess
selenium supplementation.

snipp
Also where did you hear that silver depletes selenium? That`s a new
one...
  Marshalee



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Re: CSSelenium??

[Charles Sutton]

what are lacto-fermented foods? (Beef soaked in buttermilk?)

- Original Message - 
From: Roman r_...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: CSSelenium??


 sol wrote:
  
  I have intestinal candida, take CS to
  help with it, which it does, and have been taking it daily for about 8
  months now, and have never gotten thrush. 
 
 
 Have you tried consuming large amounts of lacto-fermented foods (plant
 and animal based) to improve your intestinal microflora instead of
 chasing candida with CS?
 
 Roman
 
 
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Re: CSSelenium??

[Maja Hristozova]

Thanks a lot Catherine
I guess just for sure we'll increase the selenium
intake while taking CS. Cystic Fibrosis patients
suffer by default from lack of selenium and they take
the supplements on a daily basis. So if CS bonds with
selenium we better take more selenium just incase. I
belive storing silver in the body tissues is not
good...
Thanks again,
Maia


--- C Creel ccr...@adelphia.net wrote:
 Dear Maia,
 From www.silvermedicine.org
 The body utilizes selenium to help eliminate silver
 from the body. Silver bonds with selenium ( see the
Roger Altman silver elimination study for an
 example of how well the body CAN eliminate silver
 http://www.silvermedicine.org/altmanstudy.html ).
 When the body is depleted
 of selenium, the amount of silver deposited into
 tissues is drastically increased. This was
conclusively demonstrated by a researcher known as
Petering in the 1970's.
 
 Regards,
 Catherine
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