Re: 4D Summit 2018 Comments

On Apr 9, 2018, at 10:35 PM, Kirk Brooks wrote: > I did not hear anyone talk about SQL. On the other hand I didn't hear > anyone say SQL is dead. My takeaway is it's not a priority - if you're > working in 4D use 4D's data engine. I think SQL is viewed as a connectivity > feature, not a design goa

Re: 4D Summit 2018 Comments

On Apr 9, 2018, at 5:52 PM, Jim Labos wrote: > Thanks for taking the time to give us this detailed hint at what's coming. > This is fantastic and exciting news! I hope the iOS feature will get > developed to it's max. This has potential to open many areas for us > developers. The general idea pr

Re: 4D Summit 2018 Comments

On Apr 9, 2018, at 5:52 PM, Richard Wright wrote: > I’ll be interested in learning how this differs from Views, not necessarily > 4D’s rather simplistic implementation, but something like Oracle’s, along > with their very powerful SQL implementation. Hi Rich, It might be possible in the futur

Re: 4D Summit 2018 Comments

On Apr 9, 2018, at 12:01 PM, Tom Swenson wrote: > Nice writeup! Makes me sorry that I couldn't fit in time to attend the Summit > this year. > > I'll toss in a bit of history - "object" databases. It was a concept that > kind of flared up back in the 90s but didn't get any market traction. > >

4D Summit 2018 Comments

I got back from 4D Summit 2018 in Washington DC and thought I’d post a few of my thoughts and comments about this year’s summit. I went to JPR’s advanced class and he made a statement at the end that I think really sums of 4D v17. He said this is the biggest update in the history of 4D. Bigger

Re: Temp files in 4D package

On Mar 25, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Maurice Inzirillo wrote: > Thanks. But shouldn't 4D take care of cleaning out these temp files on its > own? Of course 4D should, but that doesn’t mean that it will. Something called “bugs” or “bad design decisions” lead to things like this happening. :) I would d

Re: Multi-Table Query Into JSON?

On Mar 22, 2018, at 8:23 PM, Keisuke Miyako wrote: > Selection to json is a very simple command with very specific usages. > > it is nothing like selection to array. > > put another way, it is not an important command, you don’t need to know it, > there is nothing you can’t do without it. > >

Re: Test 4D Server using 4D Developer Professional license

On Mar 22, 2018, at 11:02 AM, Chip Scheide wrote: > As long as you run on the same physical box (or in/on the same VM), you > should be able to run 2 or more copies of Server at the same time. You > will need to run each instance on a different set of ports. > > You are still limited to the to

Re: 4D data on the web - what do you use?

On Mar 14, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Jody Bevan wrote: >> On Mar 14, 2018, at 12:36 PM, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com >> <mailto:4d_tech@lists.4d.com>> wrote: >> >> I guess that explains why you “retired” and moved to that “tropical" plac

Re: 4D data on the web - what do you use?

On Mar 14, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Jody Bevan wrote: > This is a very timely topic for me. We put a good chunk of our medical > application on the Web back in 2004. Back then we used Apache up front, and > then just used 4D to generate the HTML. We had 4D serve the HTML through a 4D > Client back th

RE: Using the new 4D SSO feature on Windows

On Mar 3, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Bob Miller wrote: > In a different view of things (this wouldn't be SSO, but rather, using AD > authentication) there some way that I could present a login screen, accept > the user's ID and password, and send it to AD for authentication, > receiving back a "Good" or

Setting "Map NULL values to blank values" with SQL command

I’ve got some SQL code that I am running to create new fields in tables. Basic "ALTER TABLE tablename ADD fieldname VARCHAR” command. It is working just fine. But I would like to also set the "Map NULL values to blank values” checkbox property. Can you do this programmatically? I can’t find anyt

Re: [SAD NEWS] legendary developer and 4D base-rock Ortwin Zillgen

On Feb 27, 2018, at 12:07 PM,Alexander Heintz wrote: > Fellow 4D developers, > > it is with great sadness, that I have to inform you, that Ortwin Zillgen has > passed away end of last week. > Suddenly, unexpectedly and far to early at the young age of 64. So sorry to hear this. Ortwin was a top

Custom Tags in Multi-style text areas

I’m working on a project where I need to send HTML emails with Outlook on Windows. I have an “Email Templates” table that contains a text area that is set to be “multi-style” to hold the email templates. The user can add fields from various tables to a template and do styled text to create the b

What causes a 'user interruption -1000' error on an EOS method?

On Feb 23, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Kirk Brooks wrote: > I don't recall ever having this issue. I have a method set to execute on > server. It takes a series of pointers and looks like this: > > $errMsg:=EOS_method (\ > ->$obj;\ > ->aMY_name;\ > ->aMY_ref;\ > ->aMy_recID;\ > ->aMY_info;\ > ->aMY_addres

Re: [v16-Mac] Syntax check hits me with 3,300 + Errors...

On Feb 18, 2018, at 9:18 AM, Jörg Knebel wrote: >> On 18 Feb 2018, at 18:47 AEDT, Stephen Shaw via 4D_Tech >> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: >> >> I presume you have used the generate typing button in the compiler dialog. > > NO, I never used the “4D variable typing function” or what ever it is/

Re: text2picture

On Feb 14, 2018, at 2:00 PM,Herr Alexander Heintz wrote: >>> Most likely a wrapper for 4 lines of SVG code… >> >> Was SVG around 157 month ago? > > SVG as a format? > Most likely > in 4D, I don’t think so… > But why not use SVG if available? > Its blinding fast What Jörg is talking about is so

Re: Moving picture resources from one database to another

On Feb 10, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Dave Tenen wrote: > Forgive my ignorance on these features. Maybe I wasn’t clear…I am in the > toolbox, in the Pictures item. There are pictures in that list (I'm assuming > they are buried in the structure) I want to take all of them and move them > into a place

RE: 4D Parameter

On Feb 8, 2018, at 9:57 AM,Timothy Penner wrote: >> And this is something many of us have been wanting for a long time. The >> ability to have each Stored Procedure running on 4D Server be a preemptive >> process so that it cannot hog the CPU. Then my comment about putting using >> DELAY PROCES

RE: 4D Parameter

On Feb 7, 2018, at 4:50 PM, Timothy Penner wrote: >> Normally a stored procedure is limited to "core 0" along with anything else >> that can't be multithreaded. If you could do your task in a preemptive >> worker or a SQL process you'd probably get better response time from your >> clients. >

Re: 4D Parameter

On Feb 6, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Miguel Gonzalez wrote: > Is there a way to make the processes running in 4D Server not taking > too much resources? > I know that this is for the processes to finish quickly when send to the > server. > > My problem is that this behaviour reduce notably the performanc

Re(2): "Goodbye 4D Write" email

On Feb 2, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Don Lapin wrote: > Please let us know what you find out, Tim. From here it's looking like there > was never any intention of creating anything but a fig leaf. Hi Don, I definitely will. I’m sure the end result of 4D Write Pro will be a big improvement over the ver

Re: "Goodbye 4D Write" email

On Feb 1, 2018, at 4:17 PM, Chip Scheide wrote: > In principle, it should be possible to create a text editor in 4D > itself. > > I believe that the 4D design interface is built in/with 4D. If this is > true, you should be able to build a tailorable text editor inside 4D. > The Method editor

Re: 10.13.2 running on a MacMini (Late 2014) 8GB RAM External RAID 0+1 Samsung SSD. Using SoftRaid XT

On Jan 30, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Jim Dorrance wrote: > Find a mac mini late 2012 i7 with ssd and 16 gb ram I agree. This is a fantastic little machine for running 4D Server on with under 20 users and a “medium sized” data file. This is how I currently categorized 4D data file sizes: Small is les

Re: 10.13.2 running on a MacMini (Late 2014) 8GB RAM External RAID 0+1 Samsung SSD. Using SoftRaid XT

On Jan 29, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Mitchell Shiller wrote: > 4D Server 16.2 > Mac OS 10.13.2 running on a MacMini (Late 2014) 8GB RAM > External RAID 0+1 Samsung SSD. Using SoftRaid XT > > Only applications running are: > 4D Server (no stored procedures), 15 users > Carbon Copy Cloner 5.05 (latest) s

Re: Screen capture code snippet found on the NUG that I am not able to make work. plse help

On Jan 26, 2018, at 11:04 AM, ernie hilgers wrote: > Hi Tim Nevels, > > I was trying to make the code work on my mac 10.6 / 10.8 but somehow I am not > getting the snapshot on the desktop. (where I want them, for now) > > I changed some of your code (see below) but I am not sure if I understan

Re: Capture Image on Tablet

On Jan 19, 2018, at 1:42 PM, Douglas Cryer wrote: > I am writing a new tablet based app for store controllers who visit stores to > have on hand stats fort the store they are visiting. > > One of the functions I want to be able to provide is to take a picture with > the tablets camera directly

ScreenshotToFile Method

I’ve been working on a feature that I include in my 4D applications that allows the user to easily send me an email with a bug report. The way it works is there is a toolbar button called “Bug Report” that the user clicks. It grabs some pertinent environment information about what the are doing

Re: "Failed to synchronize Resources folder." Error

On Jan 16, 2018, at 12:18 PM, Douglas von Roeder wrote: > I haven't had reports of that from clients but I've seen that in development > (I always work in client/server) and I'm seeing it with apps in V12, V13, and > V15. Last month, I sent the V15 to an Active4D programmer and he hit that > s

"Failed to synchronize Resources folder." Error

I’ve recently seen a big increase in this error message reported by two clients running 4D Server v14.4. Also have seen “The plug-in method cannot be executed.” error message that appears to be connected to this in some situations. Client reports this for some users, but not all. Some users ha

Re: File Size

On Jan 15, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Wayne Stewart wrote: > I'm trying to create a method that will return a file size as a string, > similar to how the Finder does. > > Although I get "a result" it's not the "same result" as reported in the > Finder :( > > It turns out that in the Finder KB are 1000 by

Re: Are you sure you want to open the structure file in read only mode" - Windows 7

On Jan 11, 2018, at 11:13 AM, Jim Hays wrote: > Similar to Chuck, we install both our server and client apps in C:\Relevant\ > IT folks may prefer to use a different drive on a server, which is fine for > us. > Relevant is our company name. I have some clients with IT departments that require ap

Re: SFTP and Internet Commands

On Dec 19, 2017, at 12:41 PM, Cannon Smith wrote: > Does anyone know of a way to use Internet Commands to login to an FTP site > using SFTP? No built in support for SFTP in 4D Internet Commands plugin. You need a third party SFTP application that can be controlled by 4D using LEP and the comman

Re: Menus and components

On Dec 18, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Jeremy Roussak wrote: > Your last line is the key: according to the documentation, nothing has > changed, but when I run the code, everything has changed. > > So it seems that if I want to have component display a form while keeping the > host’s menus visible and wo

Re: [off] File will not open in excel

On Dec 17, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Tom Dillon wrote: > Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech wrote: > >> I'm guessing this as a feature requested by the corporate IT types long >> ago so they could dump out data from databases in text format and have >> their users easily open them in Ex

[off] File will not open in excel

On Dec 16, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Chip Scheide wrote: > Got a file which claims to be an excel file (.xls) but will not open as > an excel spreadsheet (Mac Office 2011 Excel) > When the file opens in excel, it is opened as if it was a plain text > file, when opened in Windows Office 2010 Excel it ope

Microsoft Outlook Integration

I have a client that wants to have me integrate his 4D application with Outlook. Basically I need to be able to create an html email, include attachments and send it via his Outlook client on his machine. I know there is a way to turn on some features on the Exchange server to allow sending

4D Write Pro Sample DB on YouTube

On Dec 13, 2017, at 11:28 AM, Paul Dennis wrote: > I appreciate that 4d has got round to providing us with a tool bar. Can > somebody please tell the designers who seem to rule the roost that we dont > need great big icons and clunky fonts. What is the obsession ? Please can we > have something li

Re: Typing a menu ref for Dynamic pop up menu

On Dec 8, 2017, at 2:00 PM, John Baughman wrote: > Is anyone else getting a bit annoyed at the changes in typing behavior in the > latest R release? I am getting many syntax errors in interpreted mode that I > did not get in prior versions. SET QUERY DESTINATION(Into > Variable;$foundCount), fo

Re: poor performance LISTBOX INSERT COLUMN

On Dec 2, 2017, at 2:00 PM,Piotr Chabot Stadhouders wrote: >> There is an old saying where a man goes to the doctor and says “when I move >> my arm like this it hurts, can you fix this” and the doctor replies “yes, >> don’t >> move your arm like that”. :) > > One could also say : "A man goes to

Re: poor performance LISTBOX INSERT COLUMN

On Dec 1, 2017, at 2:00 PM,Piotr Chabot Stadhouders wrote: > But, bottom line, we are skipping the fact that still the command LISTBOX > INSERT COLUMN is very slow compared to all other commands > And we wouldn't probably having this discussion if it was executed as fast as > the other commands

Re: v13 - Plugin inside component

On Nov 17, 2017, at 9:33 AM, Chip Scheide wrote: > The host after completion of the component will not be in my control. > > to install a plugin... > the component will need to have a table - with a blob. In the blob will need > to be the plugin. > > upon initialization of the component I can:

Re: 4D v6.8

On Nov 16, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Jody Bevan wrote: > I think MacOS 10.6 is the last version of the MacOS that will run PowerPC > applications if one can believe Wikipedia. > > "As support for Rosetta > was dropped in OS X Lion

Re: 4D Remote hanging at 3am after upgrading to Hi Sierra. Need logging advice.

On Nov 12, 2017, at 1:00 PM, 4d_tech-requ...@lists.4d.com wrote: > The 4D Remote which is hanging is a Mac which was recently upgraded to > High Sierra, but the backup is running on a Windows 2008r2 Server. > The hang times are consistent with when the backup is running. First it > was 3am. I chan

Re: SET UPDATE FOLDER

On Nov 9, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Sujit Shah wrote: > Sorry, I mean the original application folder. So if C:\4DAPP Folder is > open in explorer the Update is not able to replace the files in that > folder. I know exactly what you are talking about. The 4D updater script or batch file is doing a renam

Re: Working with a 64 bit Integer in an object

On Nov 4, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Jim Crate wrote: > Have you tried your favorite scripting language? Most (ruby/python/perl) have > good JSON support. > > Alternatively, you could try a standalone binary parser, possibly in > combination with curl. I haven’t used this one but it looks interesting.

RE: v13 - LEP and MS-DOS command line

On Nov 2, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Chip Scheide wrote: > Thanks - I thought about sticking it into a folder somewhere and doing > basically that - > BUT this code is going to be part of a component... Then this is good situation. Just put it into the “Resources” folder of the component. You can get th

RE: [Warning] Settings properties values on object field by object notation

On Nov 1, 2017, at 4:01 PM, Timothy Penner wrote: > I am sorry if you do not see the information I am providing as helpful. I > sincerely feel bad for the people who have been bitten by this bug and I am > trying to help the situation by asking the doc team to update the docs, and > also at the

RE: [Warning] Settings properties values on object field by object notation

On Nov 1, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Timothy Penner wrote: >> It is good we are having this discussion because this will lead to a >> change/solution to this issue. > > This discussion would more constructive if it took place on the Feature > Request forum. > > As described in tech tip 76725; > { > Fea

Re: [Warning] Settings properties values on object field by object notation

On Nov 1, 2017, at 11:04 AM, Keisuke Miyako wrote: > like a global preference, to the effect of > > "Call OB Copy implicitly when performing object assignments" > > it is an interesting point of view, > to frame it as an issue of the assignment operator being different, > as opposed to how objec

Re: [Warning] Settings properties values on object field by object notation

On Oct 31, 2017, at 10:26 PM, Cannon Smith wrote: > This bug was first discovered in July of 2016. See the NUG thread "Does 4D > Support Dotted Notation in Object Fields?” if you are interested in how it > was discovered (thanks to Douglas Von Roeder). ACI0095526. I must have missed that iNUG t

Re: [Warning] Settings properties values on object field by object notation

On Oct 31, 2017, at 10:26 PM, Keisuke Miyako wrote: > I wasn't trying to avoid taking responsibility, > I feel very sorry for that. > > I thought it was also quite clear in Tim's reply which was reposted here, > that we failed you on this, and that we are in the process of updating the > documen

Re: [Warning] Settings properties values on object field by object notation

On Oct 31, 2017, at 8:17 PM, Keisuke Miyako wrote: > to explicitly indicate that the object has been modified, just use the line > > [myTable]myObjectField:=[myTable]myObjectField > > and you have total control of when to save the field, > which results in better performance, immediately as well

Re: [Warning] Settings properties values on object field by object notation

On Oct 31, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Chip Scheide wrote: > OB SET ([Table1]Object;”value”;b_value) //this will set the record dirty. > > And, yes, I too was told that the engineers were leaning to declaring > this as standard behavior. Why? I have not a clue. I can guess the answer to that. The engin

Re: Method to put a c-obj (or JSON) into a hierarchical list

On Oct 31, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Koen Van Hooreweghe wrote: > I’ve been bitten by this a while ago. There is a difference in behavior > interpreted and compiled. Eg following piece of code: > > 1 C_OBJECT($obj) > 2 C_TEXT($text) > 3 C_LONGINT($long) > 4 > 5 OB SET($obj;"property";"value”) > 6 > 7 $t

Fixing Odd RDS Window Size Problem

This is a very specific and obscure problem with 4D when running under Windows Remote Desktop Services (RDS) 2012 or newer — also know as Terminal Services in Windows Server 2008. You have a 4D application deployed so that it runs as a single window when a user logs into RDS. This is not about u

Re: Method to put a c-obj (or JSON) into a hierarchical list

On Oct 30, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Kirk Brooks wrote: > I've taken to always specifying the type when I use OB GET except in cases > like copying a key from one object to another. I like that OB GET doesn't > throw an error when it's typed and the key doesn't exist. Hi Kirk, I did not know that if you

Re: POP3 Email Processing (and ramblings by Tim Nevels on 4D)

On Oct 27, 2017, at 8:11 PM, David Adams wrote: > Plug-ins can yield time (in two flavors) to the scheduler, so they don't > *have* to be completely blocking. The original PDM code was not re-entrant > and that's legacy seems to have been haunting us for the 25 years since 4D > took it on. Rumor

Re: Server Process "Frozen"-ish

On Oct 26, 2017, at 1:48 PM, David Conley wrote: > FWIW, I’ve implemented a method which issues a resume process command for > each of my stored procedures. I invoke it via a new process command using > the On Backup Shutdown command. My backups run once per day so it gives me a > clean way o

Re: Server Process "Frozen"-ish

On Oct 25, 2017, at 3:45 PM, Timothy Penner wrote: > I just want to add that one of the main benefits of the Forums > (http://forums.4d.com) is that it is also used by the 4D Engineers and they > do monitor, read, and participate in the discussions. So posting on the > forums could give you th

Re: Server Process "Frozen"-ish

On Oct 25, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Keith White wrote: > Wondered if you saw my guess/conjecture previously posted on this subject > (not that it's much help !)...:- > > OK, so we think this is due to DELAY PROCESS. > > The change to DELAY PROCESS somewhere in 4D v15 was to change from a Longint > t

Re: Export import all after a crash

On Oct 22, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Arnaud de Montard wrote: > Unbelievable but a customer of mine has always thought that any backup > solution was really too expensive. Predictable has occurred, crash, no > backup, only a damaged data. I think I'll never understand how people can > have such a disre

Re: v13 - Renaming a Directory via code.

On Oct 20, 2017, at 4:30 PM, Chip Scheide <4d_o...@pghrepository.org> wrote: >> $command_t:="mv "+GetPOSIXfilePath ($folderPath_t)+" > had trouble here - > apparently 4D's (v13) Convert path system to POSIX command - fails to > do what it is advertised to do. > Fortunately I had a routine a

Re: v13 - Renaming a Directory via code.

On Oct 20, 2017, at 1:04 PM, Chip Scheide wrote: > I want to rename a directory, from say New Folder -> New Folder too > Move Document complains, as neither the source nor the destination are > documents. > > is there another means to rename a folder other than: > > - Create new folder with new

Re: QUERY into variable vs. Records in Table

On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:45 PM, Jeffrey Kain wrote: > Decided to test it. Here are the results, running interpreted, client-server > against a server under very low load: > > Records in table: 565 ms > Semaphore polling: 2482 ms > Query into variable: 2749 ms Makes sense to me if you think like a

Re: Server Process "Frozen"-ish

On Oct 18, 2017, at 5:54 PM, Cannon Smith wrote: > Just an update on this issue. Last week I was able to release a new version > of our software to all of our customers and I included some extra logging for > this issue. Yesterday we had a customer report the problem. Here’s what I > found. >

Re: Problem with ZINT Plugin

On Oct 18, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Keisuke Miyako wrote: > the plugin does not convert from SVG to PNG. > > when PNG is specified as the output format, it directly draws the barcode > using LIBPNG functions. > > of course, the bars look practically the same. > > but the numbers are bitmap, not text.

Re: Problem with ZINT Plugin

> On Oct 17, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Keisuke Miyako wrote: > >> 2017/10/13 6:27、Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> のメール： >> Does anyone see anything wrong with this code: >> $image_c:=ZINT >> ($barcode_t;ZINT_Format_PNG;BARCODE_CODE128;$optionNames_al;$o

Re: Anyone using 4D Write Pro with a semblance of success?

On Oct 16, 2017, at 2:00 PM, John Baughman wrote: > Thanks Jim. I will take a look at the component. It looks interesting. > > I was aware if the blog entry, but my point in that regard is why. It’s great > that the developer can create their own user interface, but shouldn’t 4D > Write Pro hav

Re: right click in text variable gets menu with cut copy paste

> On Oct 14, 2017, at 12:13 PM,ernie hilgers wrote: > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 22:29:20 -0400 > From: ernie hilgers > To: 4d_tech@lists.4d.com > Subject: right click in text variable gets menu with cut copy paste > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi al

Re: iPhone Panties

On Oct 14, 2017, at 12:13 PM, Tom Dillon wrote: > :-7 People still make millions off of totally silly stuff. > > Between this and the discussion about the tech list getting fainter, it has > me wonder if the 4D Pub is still around. It was pretty well traffice, > especially right before and aft

iPhone Panties

Something totally off topic, but made me laugh. My girlfriend sent me this picture: http://myweb.midco.net/~timnevels/iPhonePanties.png Tim Tim Nevels Innovative Solutions 785-749-3444 timnev...@mac.com

Re: Subrecords with subrecords

On Oct 13, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Kirk Brooks wrote: > ​Really interesting hack. ​I'm trying to visualize this - "So you have to > replace all these lines of code with EXECUTE commands." Do you mean > opening the structure in 2004 will show the names of the sub-subtable > fields so you can then write

Re: Subrecords with subrecords

> On Oct 13, 2017, at 9:20 AM, Lee Hinde wrote: > > New client with a database to update to v16. It's currently running in > 2004. But it has subtables with subtables, which, as I'm discovering, isn't > really supported in 2004. > > So, how did they do that? That is, run a compiled database in 20

Problem with ZINT Plugin

I’m having problems with Miyako’s ZINT plugin that creates barcodes. It works great on macOS 10.10 with 4D v16 R3. But it fails to work on Windows 10. It does not return an image. Does anyone see anything wrong with this code: C_TEXT($textData_t;$barcode_t) ARRAY LONGINT($optionNames_al;0) ARRA

Re: NB: Pre-emptive mode hassle

On Oct 11, 2017, at 10:40 AM, David Adams wrote: > If you don't mind and are on the forums, would you mind putting in a > feature request? And, for what it's worth, it would be super weird if they > *hadn't* thought of this. The languages they write in have all kinds of > compiler pre-processing i

Re: NB: Pre-emptive mode hassle

On Oct 10, 2017, at 1:16 PM, David Adams wrote: > * TRACE is not thread-safe. It's also meaningless compiled. And yet, it > blocks you. Why? Probably the 4D engineers never thought to exclude it. It should be excluded since it has no impact when running compiled. > * SET TEXT TO PASTEBOARD is

Re: NB: Pre-emptive mode hassle

On Oct 10, 2017, at 11:12 AM, David Adams wrote: > Typical, my "summary" is longer than the original. You are a true trail blazer, David. And you know what they say… trail blazers are the ones that take the arrows. And you are definitely bloody from all your preemptive process work. Possible ne

Re: 4D v16.2 false record locks

On Oct 6, 2017, at 6:04 PM, David Adams wrote: > Again: > > Start worker > Open file. > Use file > Close file. > Kill worker > > Start worker again > *** FIle lock conflict *** > > 4D's accepted it as a bug as of some months back. I finally now understand the bug you found. Thanks for finally

Re: What to do about users who won't follow instructions?

On Oct 4, 2017, at 7:54 PM, David Adams wrote: > That sounds *awesome*. Any chance that you would do a 4DMETHOD or 4D Summit > presentation on this? I agree with David. I’d love to see how all this works. I’d love to add this to one of my existing 4D applications. Tim

Re: 4D v16.2 false record locks

On Oct 3, 2017, at 3:49 PM, David Adams wrote: > I'm with John on this one. The payoff for sending in bug reports and > feature requests is incredibly low. Zero feedback and results are rare. *No > matter what hoops are jumped.* > > 4D the company gives the _very_ clear impression that they just

Re: 4D v16.2 false record locks

On Oct 3, 2017, at 3:49 PM, David Adams wrote: >> That’s not his job. It is the job of every 4D developer to report bugs to >> 4D by opening a tech support case. >> And to refuse to close that tech support case, or allow it to auto close, >> until the bug is fixed. > > Sigh. Brining a fresh new

Re: 4D v16.2 false record locks

On Oct 3, 2017, at 10:57 AM, John DeSoi wrote: > I just encountered this in version 16.2 (Mac, single user merged > application). The Locked function returns true, but LOCKED BY has empty > values for everything. The record is only accessed by one process and never > becomes unlocked even thoug

RE: Love 4D's math interpretation...

On Sep 28, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Timothy Penner wrote: > Parenthesis should always be used with 4D's math operations as a way to force > the order of operations. > > If you do not use Parenthesis then you may find different values in compiled > mode vs interpreted mode - > > For example: > > inte

Re: [ANN] 4D Summit - Early Bird Registration Open

On Sep 27, 2017, at 1:16 PM, JPR wrote: > IMHO, it's the biggest improvement in 4D since Client-Server and Multi > Process. And if LR and me will spend one day to explain the way it works in > detail, it's because it's a very new way of thinking everything you are doing > right now. And if you

Re: [ANN] 4D Summit - Early Bird Registration Open

On Sep 26, 2017, at 1:43 PM, Brian Young wrote: > Early Bird Registration is now open for the > 2018 4D Summit. > > Pricing, details and registration links are > available on the 4D event sites for each location: > > Paris, France • March 20th-22nd, 2018 >http://events.4d.com/summit/ > >

Re: Making LOG EVENT thread-safe

On Sep 26, 2017, at 9:08 AM, David Adams wrote: >> As stupid as it sounds, another option is to push the log entries to >> something else locally - even a stand-alone built 4D app - and let it write >> the disk files. >> Then you could use a service with a custom agent, like SumoLogic or >> Splunk

Re: 4D v16 issues

On Sep 22, 2017, at 4:49 PM, Jeff Kain wrote: > 15.4, which seemed to be about the same as v13. > > At first I just discounted the early reports, but more and more came in that > things were a lot snappier in v16. And since you are using the legacy network that means you are still running 32bi

Re: 4D v16 issues

On Sep 22, 2017, at 4:49 PM, Jeffrey Kain wrote: > We reported the stored procedure frozen issue... it's only happened once so > far. We're going to get a procdump from the server the next time it happens. What is “procdump”? I’ve not heard of this before. Tim *

Re: 4D v16.2 false record locks

On Sep 19, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Alan Chan wrote: > If a record wasn't unloaded in trigger properly, the record would be locked > even after the invoking client user left the system (no longer signed in). > The only way is to restart the server. This is a great point. I wonder if any of the users r

Re: Server Process "Frozen"-ish

On Sep 15, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Jeffrey Kain wrote: > I opened a case on the taow today - just FYI. I forgot to say that in my last post. I think this is the best way to handle this bug. If they have a half dozen cases opened all with the same problem, that should make them take notice. So anybod

Re: Server Process "Frozen"-ish

On Sep 14, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Cannon Smith wrote: > Hmm, v16.2 eh? There goes our hope that it was fixed in that version. > > Is anyone having this happen regularly enough that they can turn on some > logging to see, for example, what the last command that ran was? Hi Cannon, I’d called 4D tech

RE: Server Process "Frozen"-ish

On Sep 13, 2017, at 4:48 PM, Stephen J. Orth wrote: > I've given up trying to write and use stored procedures, the Server is just > too fragile. I'd be open to anyone telling me you can really use stored > procedures in a "hard core" way without completely killing all connected > users perform

RE: SFTP - Native to 4D?

On Sep 13, 2017, at 4:48 PM, Janet Jonas wrote: > Thanks, John for the link to the key creation information. > > What do you launch with LEP? I use WS_FTP software from ipswitch. This is what the client already had, so I used it. https://www.ipswitch.com/secure-information-and-file-transfer/ws

Re: QUERY BY ATTRIBUTE is slow af

On Sep 12, 2017, at 5:49 PM, Jeffrey Kain wrote: > Yeah, so many caveats to object fields. Bite the bullet, use a related > table... Remember 4D’s implementation strategy for new features: - You get a little bit at a time. - The feature set is not complete. - The public (i.e. 4D developers) ar

Re: [OFF] PCI/DSS compliance

On Sep 8, 2017, at 4:23 PM,Balinder Walia wrote: > ...and Equifax data breach included credit card numbers too. The credit card companies will have to eat all of this. At least in America, if you report your credit card has been stolen, they will remove any bogus charges. It is a pain-in-the-as

Re: [OFF] PCI/DSS compliance

On Sep 8, 2017, at 4:23 PM,Chip Scheide wrote: > I find the idea that it is necessary to implement PCI ironic, when > Equifax just lost the SS numbers, and other personal data of over > 140,000,000 people. I checked the website they published and it says my information was stolen. So now I hav

RE: Missing Pict - 64bit Removes pictures from library

On Aug 9, 2017, at 2:59 PM, Randy Engle wrote: > Been messing with 64bit v16r4 > > Found that most (not all) of my PICTURE LIBRARY pictures went south. > > If I open the app in the 32 bit version, they are all still there. > > So... what Christian said below, is more than a "good idea" > > Not

Re: JSON Tools Was: Re: C-objects and memory use

On Aug 9, 2017, at 2:00 PM,David Adams wrote: > Thanks for saying this so clearly. This is the reality that is behind my > feature request(s) for a set of native tools to deal with arbitrary JSON > input/output. For now, I've got NTK but it is a feature set that any modern > tool should have out o

Re: Encrypted Data at Rest

On Aug 2, 2017, at 7:35 PM,Richard Wright wrote: > Not sure why you say for personal use only. FileVault supports 256 AES and > benefits from hardware acceleration in the CPU. I’ve never done timing > comparisons but there are no noticeable performance effects at all. Some > people have tested,

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