Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
š From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 10:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I could use some help, if you're $free. ;-) - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: "SmarterBroadband" mailto:li...@sbb.net> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 12:28:26 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck No I mean I am free in Juneā¦. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 12:32 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I am thinking of free. Freeish. From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 1:26 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Freeā¦.. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 11:21 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck May or June? From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 12:09 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I will be there (as long as dates are free)ā¦.. Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM To: af mailto:af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to justify the fairpark venue. I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we held the first one. I have modified the afmug.com page a bit reflecting that something is going to happen. All but the home page. I cannot find that in the wordpress back end. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open space conference' or 'barcamp' would be interesting. The WISPA conferences aren't really set up well to handle this type of thing. Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and then breakout rooms/areas. The first 20 minutes are people standing up and suggesting topics to discuss, and putting those topics on an agenda board claming a space and a time. For smaller groups, a single room works where you claim time on the agenda. For larger groups, you of course need more space since there tends to be more things people want to discuss than there is time on the agenda. In the latter case, the person suggesting the topic ends up leading it in the space they've claimed in the timeslot assigned. I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere in Utah for something like this I also wouldn't mind taking the leadership role during the initial 20 minutes to facilitate the topic 'selection' process (which if done correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a self-organizing process). On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout mailto:t...@voltbb.com> > wrote: Chuck, I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just play around with some stuff? TJ On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote: Red Iguana We could do it kinda like it started. Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and whoever shows up shows up. Not sure what Wispa would think about that... From: Cameron Crum Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote: and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.co
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
Well, we have laws in Utah about charging for it... From: Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 11:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I could use some help, if you're $free. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "SmarterBroadband" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 12:28:26 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck No I mean I am free in Juneā¦. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 12:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I am thinking of free. Freeish. From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 1:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Freeā¦.. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 11:21 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck May or June? From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 12:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I will be there (as long as dates are free)ā¦.. Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to justify the fairpark venue. I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we held the first one. I have modified the afmug.com page a bit reflecting that something is going to happen. All but the home page. I cannot find that in the wordpress back end. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open space conference' or 'barcamp' would be interesting. The WISPA conferences aren't really set up well to handle this type of thing. Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and then breakout rooms/areas. The first 20 minutes are people standing up and suggesting topics to discuss, and putting those topics on an agenda board claming a space and a time. For smaller groups, a single room works where you claim time on the agenda. For larger groups, you of course need more space since there tends to be more things people want to discuss than there is time on the agenda. In the latter case, the person suggesting the topic ends up leading it in the space they've claimed in the timeslot assigned. I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere in Utah for something like this I also wouldn't mind taking the leadership role during the initial 20 minutes to facilitate the topic 'selection' process (which if done correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a self-organizing process). On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout wrote: Chuck, I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just play around with some stuff? TJ On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Red Iguana We could do it kinda like it started. Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and whoever shows up shows up. Not sure what Wispa would think about that... From: Cameron Crum Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -- From: "Jay Weekley" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. Chuck McCown wrote: > It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process > down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they > think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. > Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... > So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as before. > Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And I > donāt have to do m
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
I suppose it is not too early to start picking some dates. From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 11:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck No I mean I am free in Juneā¦. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 12:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I am thinking of free. Freeish. From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 1:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Freeā¦.. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 11:21 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck May or June? From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 12:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I will be there (as long as dates are free)ā¦.. Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to justify the fairpark venue. I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we held the first one. I have modified the afmug.com page a bit reflecting that something is going to happen. All but the home page. I cannot find that in the wordpress back end. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open space conference' or 'barcamp' would be interesting. The WISPA conferences aren't really set up well to handle this type of thing. Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and then breakout rooms/areas. The first 20 minutes are people standing up and suggesting topics to discuss, and putting those topics on an agenda board claming a space and a time. For smaller groups, a single room works where you claim time on the agenda. For larger groups, you of course need more space since there tends to be more things people want to discuss than there is time on the agenda. In the latter case, the person suggesting the topic ends up leading it in the space they've claimed in the timeslot assigned. I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere in Utah for something like this I also wouldn't mind taking the leadership role during the initial 20 minutes to facilitate the topic 'selection' process (which if done correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a self-organizing process). On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout wrote: Chuck, I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just play around with some stuff? TJ On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Red Iguana We could do it kinda like it started. Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and whoever shows up shows up. Not sure what Wispa would think about that... From: Cameron Crum Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -- From: "Jay Weekley" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. Chuck McCown wrote: > It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process > down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they > think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. > Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... > So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as before. > Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And I > donāt have to do much other than MC the event. > *From:* TJ Trout > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > Chuck, > How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource the > unpalatable
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I could use some help, if you're $free. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "SmarterBroadband" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 12:28:26 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck No I mean I am free in Juneā¦. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 12:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I am thinking of free. Freeish. From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 1:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Freeā¦.. From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 11:21 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck May or June? From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 12:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I will be there (as long as dates are free)ā¦.. Adam From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM To: af < af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to justify the fairpark venue. I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we held the first one. I have modified the afmug.com page a bit reflecting that something is going to happen. All but the home page. I cannot find that in the wordpress back end. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open space conference' or 'barcamp' would be interesting. The WISPA conferences aren't really set up well to handle this type of thing. Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and then breakout rooms/areas. The first 20 minutes are people standing up and suggesting topics to discuss, and putting those topics on an agenda board claming a space and a time. For smaller groups, a single room works where you claim time on the agenda. For larger groups, you of course need more space since there tends to be more things people want to discuss than there is time on the agenda. In the latter case, the person suggesting the topic ends up leading it in the space they've claimed in the timeslot assigned. I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere in Utah for something like this I also wouldn't mind taking the leadership role during the initial 20 minutes to facilitate the topic 'selection' process (which if done correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a self-organizing process). On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout < t...@voltbb.com > wrote: Chuck, I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just play around with some stuff? TJ On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: Red Iguana We could do it kinda like it started. Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and whoever shows up shows up. Not sure what Wispa would think about that... From: Cameron Crum Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Jay Weekley" < par...@cyberbroadband.net > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. Chuck McCown wrote: > It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process > down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they > think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. > Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... > So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as before. > Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And I > donāt have to do much other than MC the event. > *From:* TJ Trout > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > Chuck, > How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource the > unpalatable p
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No I mean I am free in Juneā¦. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 12:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I am thinking of free. Freeish. From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 1:26 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Freeā¦.. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 11:21 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck May or June? From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 12:09 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I will be there (as long as dates are free)ā¦.. Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM To: af mailto:af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to justify the fairpark venue. I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we held the first one. I have modified the afmug.com page a bit reflecting that something is going to happen. All but the home page. I cannot find that in the wordpress back end. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open space conference' or 'barcamp' would be interesting. The WISPA conferences aren't really set up well to handle this type of thing. Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and then breakout rooms/areas. The first 20 minutes are people standing up and suggesting topics to discuss, and putting those topics on an agenda board claming a space and a time. For smaller groups, a single room works where you claim time on the agenda. For larger groups, you of course need more space since there tends to be more things people want to discuss than there is time on the agenda. In the latter case, the person suggesting the topic ends up leading it in the space they've claimed in the timeslot assigned. I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere in Utah for something like this I also wouldn't mind taking the leadership role during the initial 20 minutes to facilitate the topic 'selection' process (which if done correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a self-organizing process). On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout mailto:t...@voltbb.com> > wrote: Chuck, I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just play around with some stuff? TJ On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote: Red Iguana We could do it kinda like it started. Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and whoever shows up shows up. Not sure what Wispa would think about that... From: Cameron Crum Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote: and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: "Jay Weekley" mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. Chuck McCown wrote: > It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process > down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they > think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. > Two shows, same seas
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Kopacetic Kool Kat ...yeah Jaime Solorza On Feb 18, 2018 9:16 PM, "Steve Jones" wrote: > Would be cool if jaime did some beatnik jazz type spoken word performance > of it... that effin hippy > > On Feb 18, 2018 10:49 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > >> Yep >> >> -Original Message- From: Bill Prince >> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 9:31 AM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> >> Didn't we (Chuck?) reverse-acronym AFMUG to be Advanced Fiber and >> Microwave Users Group? >> >> >> bp >> >> >> On 2/18/2018 7:31 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: >> >>> What poem was that? I think I remember some kind of poem that was put >>> needle point and framed and given to someone. >>> >>> Chuck McCown wrote: >>> >>>> Well, your poetry was read at one AnimalFarm... you are a bit of a >>>> celebrity. >>>> *From:* Steve Jones >>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 8:07 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>>> Not that id show up, or ever did, but it seems the history of animal >>>> farm allowed alot of people to get their tip wet in the industry. The >>>> industry has changed, fiber is the new canopy. Why dont you guys turn this >>>> thing fiber centric? Animal farm 2.0 or 3.14 because only geeks go to stuff >>>> like that. Have a glass bakeoff. Enough of you are EE eggheads enough to >>>> build out an overpowered fiber laser array to poke fibers into a hog and >>>> green light roast it from the inside. >>>> Just sayin, thats what id like to see pictures from >>>> On Feb 16, 2018 4:55 PM, "David Coudron" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Weād be interested in that as well. >>>> >>>> David Coudron >>>> >>>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave >>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 3:51 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>>> >>>> Sign me up im in for full effect I havent been on a tank since '93 >>>> >>>> On 02/16/2018 02:24 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>>> >>>> With smoked dead animals and the chance to play on some >>>> construction machinery. >>>> >>>> *From:*CBB - Jay Fuller >>>> >>>> *Sent:*Friday, February 16, 2018 1:21 PM >>>> >>>> *To:*af@afmug.com >>>> >>>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>>> >>>> sounds similar to a two-day CEO roundtablei likei >>>> like >>>> >>>> - Original Message - >>>> >>>> *From:*SmarterBroadband >>>> >>>> *To:*af@afmug.com >>>> >>>> *Sent:*Friday, February 16, 2018 1:09 PM >>>> >>>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>>> >>>> I will be there (as long as dates are free)ā¦.. >>>> >>>> Adam >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of >>>> *ch...@wbmfg.com >>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM >>>> *To:* af >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>>> >>>> I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to >>>> justify the fairpark venue. >>>> >>>> I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we >>>> held the first one. >>>> >>>> I have modified the afmug.com <http://afmug.com> page a >>>> bit reflecting that something is going to happen. >>>> >>>> All but the home page. >>>> >>>> I cannot find that in the wordpress back end. >>>> >>>> *From:*Forrest Christian (List Account) >>>> >>>> *Sent:*Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM >>>> >>>> *To:*af >>>> >>>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>>> >>>> I've for
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Would be cool if jaime did some beatnik jazz type spoken word performance of it... that effin hippy On Feb 18, 2018 10:49 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Yep > > -Original Message- From: Bill Prince > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 9:31 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > Didn't we (Chuck?) reverse-acronym AFMUG to be Advanced Fiber and > Microwave Users Group? > > > bp > > > On 2/18/2018 7:31 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: > >> What poem was that? I think I remember some kind of poem that was put >> needle point and framed and given to someone. >> >> Chuck McCown wrote: >> >>> Well, your poetry was read at one AnimalFarm... you are a bit of a >>> celebrity. >>> *From:* Steve Jones >>> *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 8:07 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>> Not that id show up, or ever did, but it seems the history of animal >>> farm allowed alot of people to get their tip wet in the industry. The >>> industry has changed, fiber is the new canopy. Why dont you guys turn this >>> thing fiber centric? Animal farm 2.0 or 3.14 because only geeks go to stuff >>> like that. Have a glass bakeoff. Enough of you are EE eggheads enough to >>> build out an overpowered fiber laser array to poke fibers into a hog and >>> green light roast it from the inside. >>> Just sayin, thats what id like to see pictures from >>> On Feb 16, 2018 4:55 PM, "David Coudron" >>> wrote: >>> >>> Weād be interested in that as well. >>> >>> David Coudron >>> >>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave >>> *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 3:51 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>> >>> Sign me up im in for full effect I havent been on a tank since '93 >>> >>> On 02/16/2018 02:24 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>> >>> With smoked dead animals and the chance to play on some >>> construction machinery. >>> >>> *From:*CBB - Jay Fuller >>> >>> *Sent:*Friday, February 16, 2018 1:21 PM >>> >>> *To:*af@afmug.com >>> >>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>> >>> sounds similar to a two-day CEO roundtablei likei >>> like >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> >>> *From:*SmarterBroadband >>> >>> *To:*af@afmug.com >>> >>> *Sent:*Friday, February 16, 2018 1:09 PM >>> >>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>> >>> I will be there (as long as dates are free)ā¦.. >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of >>> *ch...@wbmfg.com >>> *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM >>> *To:* af >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>> >>> I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to >>> justify the fairpark venue. >>> >>> I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we >>> held the first one. >>> >>> I have modified the afmug.com <http://afmug.com> page a >>> bit reflecting that something is going to happen. >>> >>> All but the home page. >>> >>> I cannot find that in the wordpress back end. >>> >>> *From:*Forrest Christian (List Account) >>> >>> *Sent:*Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM >>> >>> *To:*af >>> >>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>> >>> I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open >>> space conference' or 'barcamp' would be interesting. The >>> WISPA conferences aren't really set up well to handle this >>> type of thing. >>> >>> Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and >>> then breakout rooms/areas. The first 20 minutes are >>> people standing up and suggesting topics to d
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Yep -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 9:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Didn't we (Chuck?) reverse-acronym AFMUG to be Advanced Fiber and Microwave Users Group? bp On 2/18/2018 7:31 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: What poem was that? I think I remember some kind of poem that was put needle point and framed and given to someone. Chuck McCown wrote: Well, your poetry was read at one AnimalFarm... you are a bit of a celebrity. *From:* Steve Jones *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 8:07 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Not that id show up, or ever did, but it seems the history of animal farm allowed alot of people to get their tip wet in the industry. The industry has changed, fiber is the new canopy. Why dont you guys turn this thing fiber centric? Animal farm 2.0 or 3.14 because only geeks go to stuff like that. Have a glass bakeoff. Enough of you are EE eggheads enough to build out an overpowered fiber laser array to poke fibers into a hog and green light roast it from the inside. Just sayin, thats what id like to see pictures from On Feb 16, 2018 4:55 PM, "David Coudron" wrote: Weād be interested in that as well. David Coudron *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 3:51 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Sign me up im in for full effect I havent been on a tank since '93 On 02/16/2018 02:24 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: With smoked dead animals and the chance to play on some construction machinery. *From:*CBB - Jay Fuller *Sent:*Friday, February 16, 2018 1:21 PM *To:*af@afmug.com *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck sounds similar to a two-day CEO roundtablei likei like - Original Message - *From:*SmarterBroadband *To:*af@afmug.com *Sent:*Friday, February 16, 2018 1:09 PM *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I will be there (as long as dates are free)ā¦.. Adam *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to justify the fairpark venue. I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we held the first one. I have modified the afmug.com <http://afmug.com> page a bit reflecting that something is going to happen. All but the home page. I cannot find that in the wordpress back end. *From:*Forrest Christian (List Account) *Sent:*Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM *To:*af *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open space conference' or 'barcamp' would be interesting. The WISPA conferences aren't really set up well to handle this type of thing. Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and then breakout rooms/areas. The first 20 minutes are people standing up and suggesting topics to discuss, and putting those topics on an agenda board claming a space and a time. For smaller groups, a single room works where you claim time on the agenda. For larger groups, you of course need more space since there tends to be more things people want to discuss than there is time on the agenda. In the latter case, the person suggesting the topic ends up leading it in the space they've claimed in the timeslot assigned. I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere in Utah for something like this I also wouldn't mind taking the leadership role during the initial 20 minutes to facilitate the topic 'selection' process (which if done correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a self-organizing process). On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout wrote: Chuck, I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just play around with some stuff? TJ On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Red Iguana We could do it kinda like it started. Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a ho
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Didn't we (Chuck?) reverse-acronym AFMUG to be Advanced Fiber and Microwave Users Group? bp On 2/18/2018 7:31 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: What poem was that? I think I remember some kind of poem that was put needle point and framed and given to someone. Chuck McCown wrote: Well, your poetry was read at one AnimalFarm...Ā you are a bit of a celebrity. *From:* Steve Jones *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 8:07 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Not that id show up, or ever did, but it seems the history of animal farm allowed alot of people to get their tip wet in the industry. The industry has changed, fiber is the new canopy. Why dont you guys turn this thing fiber centric? Animal farm 2.0 or 3.14 because only geeks go to stuff like that. Have a glass bakeoff. Enough of you are EE eggheads enough to build out an overpowered fiber laser array to poke fibers into a hog and green light roast it from the inside. Just sayin, thats what id like to see pictures from On Feb 16, 2018 4:55 PM, "David Coudron" wrote: Ā Ā Ā Weād be interested in that as well. Ā Ā Ā David Coudron Ā Ā Ā *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave Ā Ā Ā *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 3:51 PM Ā Ā Ā *To:* af@afmug.com Ā Ā Ā *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Ā Ā Ā Sign me up im in for full effect I havent been on a tank since '93 Ā Ā Ā On 02/16/2018 02:24 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Ā Ā Ā With smoked dead animals and the chance to play on some Ā Ā Ā construction machinery. Ā Ā Ā *From:*CBB - Jay Fuller Ā Ā Ā *Sent:*Friday, February 16, 2018 1:21 PM Ā Ā Ā *To:*af@afmug.com Ā Ā Ā *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Ā Ā Ā sounds similar to a two-day CEO roundtablei likei like Ā Ā Ā - Original Message - Ā Ā Ā *From:*SmarterBroadband Ā Ā Ā *To:*af@afmug.com Ā Ā Ā *Sent:*Friday, February 16, 2018 1:09 PM Ā Ā Ā *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Ā Ā Ā I will be there (as long as dates are free)ā¦.. Ā Ā Ā Adam Ā Ā Ā *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of Ā Ā Ā *ch...@wbmfg.com Ā Ā Ā *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM Ā Ā Ā *To:* af Ā Ā Ā *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Ā Ā Ā I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to Ā Ā Ā justify the fairpark venue. Ā Ā Ā I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we Ā Ā Ā held the first one. Ā Ā Ā I have modified the afmug.com <http://afmug.com> page a Ā Ā Ā bit reflecting that something is going to happen. Ā Ā Ā All but the home page. Ā Ā Ā I cannot find that in the wordpress back end. Ā Ā Ā *From:*Forrest Christian (List Account) Ā Ā Ā *Sent:*Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM Ā Ā Ā *To:*af Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Ā Ā Ā I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open Ā Ā Ā space conference' or 'barcamp' would be interesting.Ā The Ā Ā Ā WISPA conferences aren't really set up well to handle this Ā Ā Ā type of thing. Ā Ā Ā Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and Ā Ā Ā then breakout rooms/areas.Ā Ā The first 20 minutes are Ā Ā Ā people standing up and suggesting topics to discuss, and Ā Ā Ā putting those topics on an agenda board claming a space Ā Ā Ā and a time.Ā Ā For smaller groups, a single room works Ā Ā Ā where you claim time on the agenda.Ā Ā For larger groups, Ā Ā Ā you of course need more space since there tends to be more Ā Ā Ā things people want to discuss than there is time on the Ā Ā Ā agenda.Ā Ā In the latter case, the person suggesting the Ā Ā Ā topic ends up leading it in the space they've claimed in Ā Ā Ā the timeslot assigned. Ā Ā Ā I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere Ā Ā Ā in Utah for something like thisĀ I also wouldn't mind Ā Ā Ā taking the leadership role during the initial 20 minutes Ā Ā Ā to facilitate the topic 'selection' process (which if done Ā Ā Ā correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a Ā Ā Ā self-organizing process). Ā Ā Ā On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout Ā Ā Ā wrote: Ā Ā Ā Chuck, Ā Ā Ā I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no Ā Ā Ā real firm plan, just play around with some stuff? Ā Ā Ā TJ Ā Ā Ā On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown Ā Ā Ā wrote: Ā Ā Ā Red Iguana Ā Ā Ā We could do it kinda like it started. Ā Ā Ā Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel Ā Ā Ā conference room and whoever shows up shows up. Ā Ā Ā Not sure what Wispa would think about th
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What poem was that? I think I remember some kind of poem that was put needle point and framed and given to someone. Chuck McCown wrote: Well, your poetry was read at one AnimalFarm... you are a bit of a celebrity. *From:* Steve Jones *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 8:07 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Not that id show up, or ever did, but it seems the history of animal farm allowed alot of people to get their tip wet in the industry. The industry has changed, fiber is the new canopy. Why dont you guys turn this thing fiber centric? Animal farm 2.0 or 3.14 because only geeks go to stuff like that. Have a glass bakeoff. Enough of you are EE eggheads enough to build out an overpowered fiber laser array to poke fibers into a hog and green light roast it from the inside. Just sayin, thats what id like to see pictures from On Feb 16, 2018 4:55 PM, "David Coudron" wrote: Weād be interested in that as well. David Coudron *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 3:51 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Sign me up im in for full effect I havent been on a tank since '93 On 02/16/2018 02:24 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: With smoked dead animals and the chance to play on some construction machinery. *From:*CBB - Jay Fuller *Sent:*Friday, February 16, 2018 1:21 PM *To:*af@afmug.com *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck sounds similar to a two-day CEO roundtablei likei like - Original Message - *From:*SmarterBroadband *To:*af@afmug.com *Sent:*Friday, February 16, 2018 1:09 PM *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I will be there (as long as dates are free)ā¦.. Adam *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to justify the fairpark venue. I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we held the first one. I have modified the afmug.com <http://afmug.com> page a bit reflecting that something is going to happen. All but the home page. I cannot find that in the wordpress back end. *From:*Forrest Christian (List Account) *Sent:*Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM *To:*af *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open space conference' or 'barcamp' would be interesting. The WISPA conferences aren't really set up well to handle this type of thing. Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and then breakout rooms/areas. The first 20 minutes are people standing up and suggesting topics to discuss, and putting those topics on an agenda board claming a space and a time. For smaller groups, a single room works where you claim time on the agenda. For larger groups, you of course need more space since there tends to be more things people want to discuss than there is time on the agenda. In the latter case, the person suggesting the topic ends up leading it in the space they've claimed in the timeslot assigned. I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere in Utah for something like this I also wouldn't mind taking the leadership role during the initial 20 minutes to facilitate the topic 'selection' process (which if done correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a self-organizing process). On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout wrote: Chuck, I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just play around with some stuff? TJ On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Red Iguana We could do it kinda like it started. Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and whoever shows up shows up. Not sure what Wispa would think about that... *From:*Cameron Crum *Sent:*Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM *To:*af@afmug.com
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Well, your poetry was read at one AnimalFarm... you are a bit of a celebrity. From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 8:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Not that id show up, or ever did, but it seems the history of animal farm allowed alot of people to get their tip wet in the industry. The industry has changed, fiber is the new canopy. Why dont you guys turn this thing fiber centric? Animal farm 2.0 or 3.14 because only geeks go to stuff like that. Have a glass bakeoff. Enough of you are EE eggheads enough to build out an overpowered fiber laser array to poke fibers into a hog and green light roast it from the inside. Just sayin, thats what id like to see pictures from On Feb 16, 2018 4:55 PM, "David Coudron" wrote: Weād be interested in that as well. David Coudron From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 3:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Sign me up im in for full effect I havent been on a tank since '93 On 02/16/2018 02:24 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: With smoked dead animals and the chance to play on some construction machinery. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 1:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck sounds similar to a two-day CEO roundtablei likei like - Original Message - From: SmarterBroadband To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I will be there (as long as dates are free)ā¦.. Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to justify the fairpark venue. I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we held the first one. I have modified the afmug.com page a bit reflecting that something is going to happen. All but the home page. I cannot find that in the wordpress back end. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open space conference' or 'barcamp' would be interesting. The WISPA conferences aren't really set up well to handle this type of thing. Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and then breakout rooms/areas. The first 20 minutes are people standing up and suggesting topics to discuss, and putting those topics on an agenda board claming a space and a time. For smaller groups, a single room works where you claim time on the agenda. For larger groups, you of course need more space since there tends to be more things people want to discuss than there is time on the agenda. In the latter case, the person suggesting the topic ends up leading it in the space they've claimed in the timeslot assigned. I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere in Utah for something like this I also wouldn't mind taking the leadership role during the initial 20 minutes to facilitate the topic 'selection' process (which if done correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a self-organizing process). On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout wrote: Chuck, I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just play around with some stuff? TJ On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Red Iguana We could do it kinda like it started. Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and whoever shows up shows up. Not sure what Wispa would think about that... From: Cameron Crum Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Jay Weekley" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
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We could take turns on the boring machine and play a game of utility shootout. Third place is a water line, second place is communications and first place is a gas line. Kind of like darts but with the possibility of explosions. Steve Jones wrote: Not that id show up, or ever did, but it seems the history of animal farm allowed alot of people to get their tip wet in the industry. The industry has changed, fiber is the new canopy. Why dont you guys turn this thing fiber centric? Animal farm 2.0 or 3.14 because only geeks go to stuff like that. Have a glass bakeoff. Enough of you are EE eggheads enough to build out an overpowered fiber laser array to poke fibers into a hog and green light roast it from the inside. Just sayin, thats what id like to see pictures from On Feb 16, 2018 4:55 PM, "David Coudron" <mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>> wrote: Weād be interested in that as well. David Coudron *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Dave *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 3:51 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Sign me up im in for full effect I havent been on a tank since '93 On 02/16/2018 02:24 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: With smoked dead animals and the chance to play on some construction machinery. *From:*CBB - Jay Fuller *Sent:*Friday, February 16, 2018 1:21 PM *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck sounds similar to a two-day CEO roundtablei likei like - Original Message - *From:*SmarterBroadband *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent:*Friday, February 16, 2018 1:09 PM *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I will be there (as long as dates are free)ā¦.. Adam *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM *To:* af mailto:af@afmug.com>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to justify the fairpark venue. I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we held the first one. I have modified the afmug.com <http://afmug.com> page a bit reflecting that something is going to happen. All but the home page. I cannot find that in the wordpress back end. *From:*Forrest Christian (List Account) *Sent:*Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM *To:*af *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open space conference' or 'barcamp' would be interesting. The WISPA conferences aren't really set up well to handle this type of thing. Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and then breakout rooms/areas. The first 20 minutes are people standing up and suggesting topics to discuss, and putting those topics on an agenda board claming a space and a time. For smaller groups, a single room works where you claim time on the agenda. For larger groups, you of course need more space since there tends to be more things people want to discuss than there is time on the agenda. In the latter case, the person suggesting the topic ends up leading it in the space they've claimed in the timeslot assigned. I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere in Utah for something like this I also wouldn't mind taking the leadership role during the initial 20 minutes to facilitate the topic 'selection' process (which if done correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a self-organizing process). On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout mailto:t...@voltbb.com>> wrote: Chuck, I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just play around with some stuff? TJ On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: Red Iguana We could do it kinda like it started. Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and whoever shows up shows
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Not that id show up, or ever did, but it seems the history of animal farm allowed alot of people to get their tip wet in the industry. The industry has changed, fiber is the new canopy. Why dont you guys turn this thing fiber centric? Animal farm 2.0 or 3.14 because only geeks go to stuff like that. Have a glass bakeoff. Enough of you are EE eggheads enough to build out an overpowered fiber laser array to poke fibers into a hog and green light roast it from the inside. Just sayin, thats what id like to see pictures from On Feb 16, 2018 4:55 PM, "David Coudron" wrote: > Weād be interested in that as well. > > > > David Coudron > > > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave > *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 3:51 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > > > Sign me up im in for full effect I havent been on a tank since '93 > > On 02/16/2018 02:24 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > With smoked dead animals and the chance to play on some construction > machinery. > > > > *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller > > *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 1:21 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > > > > > sounds similar to a two-day CEO roundtablei likei like > > > > ----- Original Message - > > *From:* SmarterBroadband > > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 1:09 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > > > I will be there (as long as dates are free)ā¦.. > > Adam > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On > Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com > *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > > > I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to justify the > fairpark venue. > > I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we held the first > one. > > I have modified the afmug.com page a bit reflecting that something is > going to happen. > > > > All but the home page. > > I cannot find that in the wordpress back end. > > > > *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) > > *Sent:* Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM > > *To:* af > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > > > I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open space > conference' or 'barcamp' would be interesting. The WISPA conferences > aren't really set up well to handle this type of thing. > > > > Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and then breakout > rooms/areas. The first 20 minutes are people standing up and suggesting > topics to discuss, and putting those topics on an agenda board claming a > space and a time. For smaller groups, a single room works where you claim > time on the agenda. For larger groups, you of course need more space > since there tends to be more things people want to discuss than there is > time on the agenda. In the latter case, the person suggesting the topic > ends up leading it in the space they've claimed in the timeslot assigned. > > > > I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere in Utah for > something like this I also wouldn't mind taking the leadership role > during the initial 20 minutes to facilitate the topic 'selection' process > (which if done correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a > self-organizing process). > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout wrote: > > Chuck, > > > > I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just > play around with some stuff? > > > > TJ > > > > On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Red Iguana > > > > We could do it kinda like it started. > > > > Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and > whoever shows up shows up. > > > > Not sure what Wispa would think about that... > > > > *From:* Cameron Crum > > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > > > I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some > powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> &
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Weād be interested in that as well. David Coudron From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 3:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Sign me up im in for full effect I havent been on a tank since '93 On 02/16/2018 02:24 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: With smoked dead animals and the chance to play on some construction machinery. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 1:21 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck sounds similar to a two-day CEO roundtablei likei like - Original Message - From: SmarterBroadband To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I will be there (as long as dates are free)ā¦.. Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM To: af mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to justify the fairpark venue. I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we held the first one. I have modified the afmug.com page a bit reflecting that something is going to happen. All but the home page. I cannot find that in the wordpress back end. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open space conference' or 'barcamp' would be interesting. The WISPA conferences aren't really set up well to handle this type of thing. Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and then breakout rooms/areas. The first 20 minutes are people standing up and suggesting topics to discuss, and putting those topics on an agenda board claming a space and a time. For smaller groups, a single room works where you claim time on the agenda. For larger groups, you of course need more space since there tends to be more things people want to discuss than there is time on the agenda. In the latter case, the person suggesting the topic ends up leading it in the space they've claimed in the timeslot assigned. I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere in Utah for something like this I also wouldn't mind taking the leadership role during the initial 20 minutes to facilitate the topic 'selection' process (which if done correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a self-organizing process). On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout mailto:t...@voltbb.com>> wrote: Chuck, I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just play around with some stuff? TJ On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: Red Iguana We could do it kinda like it started. Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and whoever shows up shows up. Not sure what Wispa would think about that... From: Cameron Crum Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> From: "Jay Weekley" mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA shows and
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Sign me up im in for full effect I havent been on a tank since '93 On 02/16/2018 02:24 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: With smoked dead animals and the chance to play on some construction machinery. *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 1:21 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck sounds similar to a two-day CEO roundtablei likei like - Original Message - *From:* SmarterBroadband *To:* af@afmug.com *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 1:09 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I will be there (as long as dates are free)ā¦.. Adam *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to justify the fairpark venue. I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we held the first one. I have modified the afmug.com page a bit reflecting that something is going to happen. All but the home page. I cannot find that in the wordpress back end. *From:*Forrest Christian (List Account) *Sent:*Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM *To:*af *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open space conference' or 'barcamp' would be interesting.Ā The WISPA conferences aren't really set up well to handle this type of thing. Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and then breakout rooms/areas.Ā Ā The first 20 minutes are people standing up and suggesting topics to discuss, and putting those topics on an agenda board claming a space and a time.Ā Ā For smaller groups, a single room works where you claim time on the agenda.Ā Ā For larger groups, you of course need more space since there tends to be more things people want to discuss than there is time on the agenda.Ā Ā In the latter case, the person suggesting the topic ends up leading it in the space they've claimed in the timeslot assigned. I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere in Utah for something like thisĀ I also wouldn't mind taking the leadership role during the initial 20 minutes to facilitate the topic 'selection' process (which if done correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a self-organizing process). On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout wrote: Chuck, I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just play around with some stuff? TJ On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Red Iguana We could do it kinda like it started. Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and whoever shows up shows up. Not sure what Wispa would think about that... *From:*Cameron Crum *Sent:*Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM *To:*af@afmug.com *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Jay Weekley" *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. Chuck McCown wrote: > It can be done.Ā We outsourced much of it once we got the pr
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I am thinking of free. Freeish. From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 1:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Freeā¦.. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 11:21 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck May or June? From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 12:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I will be there (as long as dates are free)ā¦.. Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to justify the fairpark venue. I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we held the first one. I have modified the afmug.com page a bit reflecting that something is going to happen. All but the home page. I cannot find that in the wordpress back end. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open space conference' or 'barcamp' would be interesting. The WISPA conferences aren't really set up well to handle this type of thing. Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and then breakout rooms/areas. The first 20 minutes are people standing up and suggesting topics to discuss, and putting those topics on an agenda board claming a space and a time. For smaller groups, a single room works where you claim time on the agenda. For larger groups, you of course need more space since there tends to be more things people want to discuss than there is time on the agenda. In the latter case, the person suggesting the topic ends up leading it in the space they've claimed in the timeslot assigned. I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere in Utah for something like this I also wouldn't mind taking the leadership role during the initial 20 minutes to facilitate the topic 'selection' process (which if done correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a self-organizing process). On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout wrote: Chuck, I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just play around with some stuff? TJ On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Red Iguana We could do it kinda like it started. Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and whoever shows up shows up. Not sure what Wispa would think about that... From: Cameron Crum Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -- From: "Jay Weekley" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. Chuck McCown wrote: > It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process > down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they > think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. > Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... > So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as before. > Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And I > donāt have to do much other than MC the event. > *From:* TJ Trout > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > Chuck, > How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource the > unpalatable parts of planning? > Obviously the cost would go up per person? Once you broke it off into > wispa I haven't attended since... > Maybe I should give it a shot, you will be having a AF group @ > wispamerica in 20 days? > TJ > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Faisal Imtiaz > wrote: > > >>My su
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BBQ.. Dennis Burgess www.linktechs.net ā 314-735-0270 x103 ā dmburg...@linktechs.net -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 2:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck With BBQ On 02/16/2018 12:21 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > sounds similar to a two-day CEO roundtablei likei like > > - Original Message - > *From:* SmarterBroadband <mailto:li...@sbb.net> > *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 1:09 PM > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > I will be there (as long as dates are free)ā¦.. > > Adam > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of > *ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM > *To:* af mailto:af@afmug.com>> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to justify > the fairpark venue. > > I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we held the > first one. > > I have modified the afmug.com page a bit reflecting that something > is going to happen. > > All but the home page. > > I cannot find that in the wordpress back end. > > *From:*Forrest Christian (List Account) > > *Sent:*Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM > > *To:*af > > *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open space > conference' or 'barcamp' would be interesting. The WISPA > conferences aren't really set up well to handle this type of thing. > > Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and then > breakout rooms/areas. The first 20 minutes are people standing up > and suggesting topics to discuss, and putting those topics on an > agenda board claming a space and a time. For smaller groups, a > single room works where you claim time on the agenda. For larger > groups, you of course need more space since there tends to be more > things people want to discuss than there is time on the agenda. In > the latter case, the person suggesting the topic ends up leading it > in the space they've claimed in the timeslot assigned. > > I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere in Utah > for something like this I also wouldn't mind taking the > leadership role during the initial 20 minutes to facilitate the > topic 'selection' process (which if done correctly isn't really as > much a selection process as a self-organizing process). > > On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout <mailto:t...@voltbb.com>> wrote: > > Chuck, > > I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm > plan, just play around with some stuff? > > TJ > > On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: > > Red Iguana > > We could do it kinda like it started. > > Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference > room and whoever shows up shows up. > > Not sure what Wispa would think about that... > > *From:*Cameron Crum > > *Sent:*Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM > > *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > > *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to > get some powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. > > On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett > mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: > > and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The
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Freeā¦.. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 11:21 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck May or June? From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 12:09 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I will be there (as long as dates are free)ā¦.. Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM To: af mailto:af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to justify the fairpark venue. I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we held the first one. I have modified the afmug.com page a bit reflecting that something is going to happen. All but the home page. I cannot find that in the wordpress back end. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open space conference' or 'barcamp' would be interesting. The WISPA conferences aren't really set up well to handle this type of thing. Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and then breakout rooms/areas. The first 20 minutes are people standing up and suggesting topics to discuss, and putting those topics on an agenda board claming a space and a time. For smaller groups, a single room works where you claim time on the agenda. For larger groups, you of course need more space since there tends to be more things people want to discuss than there is time on the agenda. In the latter case, the person suggesting the topic ends up leading it in the space they've claimed in the timeslot assigned. I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere in Utah for something like this I also wouldn't mind taking the leadership role during the initial 20 minutes to facilitate the topic 'selection' process (which if done correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a self-organizing process). On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout mailto:t...@voltbb.com> > wrote: Chuck, I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just play around with some stuff? TJ On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote: Red Iguana We could do it kinda like it started. Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and whoever shows up shows up. Not sure what Wispa would think about that... From: Cameron Crum Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote: and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: "Jay Weekley" mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. Chuck McCown wrote: > It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process > down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they > think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. > Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... > So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as before. > Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And I > donāt have to do much other than MC the event. > *From:* TJ Trout > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > Chuck, > How feasible would it be to br
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With smoked dead animals and the chance to play on some construction machinery. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 1:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck sounds similar to a two-day CEO roundtablei likei like - Original Message - From: SmarterBroadband To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I will be there (as long as dates are free)ā¦.. Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to justify the fairpark venue. I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we held the first one. I have modified the afmug.com page a bit reflecting that something is going to happen. All but the home page. I cannot find that in the wordpress back end. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open space conference' or 'barcamp' would be interesting. The WISPA conferences aren't really set up well to handle this type of thing. Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and then breakout rooms/areas. The first 20 minutes are people standing up and suggesting topics to discuss, and putting those topics on an agenda board claming a space and a time. For smaller groups, a single room works where you claim time on the agenda. For larger groups, you of course need more space since there tends to be more things people want to discuss than there is time on the agenda. In the latter case, the person suggesting the topic ends up leading it in the space they've claimed in the timeslot assigned. I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere in Utah for something like this I also wouldn't mind taking the leadership role during the initial 20 minutes to facilitate the topic 'selection' process (which if done correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a self-organizing process). On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout wrote: Chuck, I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just play around with some stuff? TJ On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Red Iguana We could do it kinda like it started. Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and whoever shows up shows up. Not sure what Wispa would think about that... From: Cameron Crum Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Jay Weekley" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. Chuck McCown wrote: > It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process > down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they > think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. > Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... > So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as before. > Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And I > donāt have to do much other than MC the event. > *From:* TJ Trout > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > Chuck, > How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource the > unpalatable parts of planning? > Obviously the cost would go up per person? Once you broke it off into > wispa I haven't attended since... > Maybe I should give it a shot, you will be having a AF group @ > wispamerica in 20 days? >
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With BBQ On 02/16/2018 12:21 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: sounds similar to a two-day CEO roundtablei likei like - Original Message - *From:* SmarterBroadband <mailto:li...@sbb.net> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 1:09 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I will be there (as long as dates are free)ā¦.. Adam *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM *To:* af mailto:af@afmug.com>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to justify the fairpark venue. I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we held the first one. I have modified the afmug.com page a bit reflecting that something is going to happen. All but the home page. I cannot find that in the wordpress back end. *From:*Forrest Christian (List Account) *Sent:*Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM *To:*af *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open space conference' or 'barcamp' would be interesting. The WISPA conferences aren't really set up well to handle this type of thing. Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and then breakout rooms/areas. The first 20 minutes are people standing up and suggesting topics to discuss, and putting those topics on an agenda board claming a space and a time. For smaller groups, a single room works where you claim time on the agenda. For larger groups, you of course need more space since there tends to be more things people want to discuss than there is time on the agenda. In the latter case, the person suggesting the topic ends up leading it in the space they've claimed in the timeslot assigned. I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere in Utah for something like this I also wouldn't mind taking the leadership role during the initial 20 minutes to facilitate the topic 'selection' process (which if done correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a self-organizing process). On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout mailto:t...@voltbb.com>> wrote: Chuck, I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just play around with some stuff? TJ On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: Red Iguana We could do it kinda like it started. Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and whoever shows up shows up. Not sure what Wispa would think about that... *From:*Cameron Crum *Sent:*Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Jay Weekley" mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. Chuck McCown wrote: > It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the proces
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sounds similar to a two-day CEO roundtablei likei like - Original Message - From: SmarterBroadband To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I will be there (as long as dates are free)ā¦.. Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to justify the fairpark venue. I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we held the first one. I have modified the afmug.com page a bit reflecting that something is going to happen. All but the home page. I cannot find that in the wordpress back end. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open space conference' or 'barcamp' would be interesting. The WISPA conferences aren't really set up well to handle this type of thing. Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and then breakout rooms/areas. The first 20 minutes are people standing up and suggesting topics to discuss, and putting those topics on an agenda board claming a space and a time. For smaller groups, a single room works where you claim time on the agenda. For larger groups, you of course need more space since there tends to be more things people want to discuss than there is time on the agenda. In the latter case, the person suggesting the topic ends up leading it in the space they've claimed in the timeslot assigned. I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere in Utah for something like this I also wouldn't mind taking the leadership role during the initial 20 minutes to facilitate the topic 'selection' process (which if done correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a self-organizing process). On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout wrote: Chuck, I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just play around with some stuff? TJ On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Red Iguana We could do it kinda like it started. Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and whoever shows up shows up. Not sure what Wispa would think about that... From: Cameron Crum Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Jay Weekley" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. Chuck McCown wrote: > It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process > down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they > think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. > Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... > So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as before. > Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And I > donāt have to do much other than MC the event. > *From:* TJ Trout > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > Chuck, > How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource the > unpalatable parts of planning? > Obviously the cost would go up per person? Once you broke it off into > wispa I haven't attended since... > Maybe I should give it a shot, you will be having a AF group @ > wispamerica in 20 days? > TJ > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Faisal Imtiaz > wrote: > > >>My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement eff
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May or June? From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 12:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I will be there (as long as dates are free)ā¦.. Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to justify the fairpark venue. I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we held the first one. I have modified the afmug.com page a bit reflecting that something is going to happen. All but the home page. I cannot find that in the wordpress back end. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open space conference' or 'barcamp' would be interesting. The WISPA conferences aren't really set up well to handle this type of thing. Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and then breakout rooms/areas. The first 20 minutes are people standing up and suggesting topics to discuss, and putting those topics on an agenda board claming a space and a time. For smaller groups, a single room works where you claim time on the agenda. For larger groups, you of course need more space since there tends to be more things people want to discuss than there is time on the agenda. In the latter case, the person suggesting the topic ends up leading it in the space they've claimed in the timeslot assigned. I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere in Utah for something like this I also wouldn't mind taking the leadership role during the initial 20 minutes to facilitate the topic 'selection' process (which if done correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a self-organizing process). On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout wrote: Chuck, I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just play around with some stuff? TJ On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Red Iguana We could do it kinda like it started. Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and whoever shows up shows up. Not sure what Wispa would think about that... From: Cameron Crum Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -- From: "Jay Weekley" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. Chuck McCown wrote: > It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process > down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they > think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. > Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... > So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as before. > Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And I > donāt have to do much other than MC the event. > *From:* TJ Trout > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > Chuck, > How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource the > unpalatable parts of planning? > Obviously the cost would go up per person? Once you broke it off into > wispa I haven't attended since... > Maybe I should give it a shot, you will be having a AF group @ > wispamerica in 20 days? > TJ > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Faisal Imtiaz > wrote: > > >>My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... > Thus the need for a fuse ! > :) > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > http://www.snappytelecom.net > > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Opti
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I will be there (as long as dates are free)ā¦.. Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to justify the fairpark venue. I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we held the first one. I have modified the afmug.com page a bit reflecting that something is going to happen. All but the home page. I cannot find that in the wordpress back end. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open space conference' or 'barcamp' would be interesting. The WISPA conferences aren't really set up well to handle this type of thing. Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and then breakout rooms/areas. The first 20 minutes are people standing up and suggesting topics to discuss, and putting those topics on an agenda board claming a space and a time. For smaller groups, a single room works where you claim time on the agenda. For larger groups, you of course need more space since there tends to be more things people want to discuss than there is time on the agenda. In the latter case, the person suggesting the topic ends up leading it in the space they've claimed in the timeslot assigned. I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere in Utah for something like this I also wouldn't mind taking the leadership role during the initial 20 minutes to facilitate the topic 'selection' process (which if done correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a self-organizing process). On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout mailto:t...@voltbb.com> > wrote: Chuck, I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just play around with some stuff? TJ On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote: Red Iguana We could do it kinda like it started. Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and whoever shows up shows up. Not sure what Wispa would think about that... From: Cameron Crum Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote: and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Jay Weekley" mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. Chuck McCown wrote: > It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process > down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they > think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. > Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... > So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as before. > Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And I > donāt have to do much other than MC the event. > *From:* TJ Trout > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > Chuck, > How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource the > unpalatable parts of planning? > Obviously the cost would go up per person? Once you broke it off into > wispa I haven't attended since... > Maybe I should give it a shot, you will be having a AF group @ > wispamerica in 20 days? > TJ > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Faisal Imtiaz > mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net> > wrote: >
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I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to justify the fairpark venue. I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we held the first one. I have modified the afmug.com page a bit reflecting that something is going to happen. All but the home page. I cannot find that in the wordpress back end. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open space conference' or 'barcamp' would be interesting. The WISPA conferences aren't really set up well to handle this type of thing. Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and then breakout rooms/areas. The first 20 minutes are people standing up and suggesting topics to discuss, and putting those topics on an agenda board claming a space and a time. For smaller groups, a single room works where you claim time on the agenda. For larger groups, you of course need more space since there tends to be more things people want to discuss than there is time on the agenda. In the latter case, the person suggesting the topic ends up leading it in the space they've claimed in the timeslot assigned. I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere in Utah for something like this I also wouldn't mind taking the leadership role during the initial 20 minutes to facilitate the topic 'selection' process (which if done correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a self-organizing process). On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout wrote: Chuck, I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just play around with some stuff? TJ On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Red Iguana We could do it kinda like it started. Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and whoever shows up shows up. Not sure what Wispa would think about that... From: Cameron Crum Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -- From: "Jay Weekley" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. Chuck McCown wrote: > It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process > down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they > think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. > Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... > So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as before. > Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And I > donāt have to do much other than MC the event. > *From:* TJ Trout > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > Chuck, > How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource the > unpalatable parts of planning? > Obviously the cost would go up per person? Once you broke it off into > wispa I haven't attended since... > Maybe I should give it a shot, you will be having a AF group @ > wispamerica in 20 days? > TJ > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Faisal Imtiaz > wrote: > > >>My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... > Thus the need for a fuse ! > :) > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > http://www.snappytelecom.net > > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or > Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > -------- > > *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:31:55 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement
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I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open space conference' or 'barcamp' would be interesting. The WISPA conferences aren't really set up well to handle this type of thing. Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and then breakout rooms/areas. The first 20 minutes are people standing up and suggesting topics to discuss, and putting those topics on an agenda board claming a space and a time. For smaller groups, a single room works where you claim time on the agenda. For larger groups, you of course need more space since there tends to be more things people want to discuss than there is time on the agenda. In the latter case, the person suggesting the topic ends up leading it in the space they've claimed in the timeslot assigned. I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere in Utah for something like this I also wouldn't mind taking the leadership role during the initial 20 minutes to facilitate the topic 'selection' process (which if done correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a self-organizing process). On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout wrote: > Chuck, > > I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just > play around with some stuff? > > TJ > > On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > >> Red Iguana >> >> We could do it kinda like it started. >> >> Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and >> whoever shows up shows up. >> >> Not sure what Wispa would think about that... >> >> *From:* Cameron Crum >> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> >> I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some >> powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> >>> and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> -- >>> *From: *"Jay Weekley" >>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>> >>> I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA >>> shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. >>> >>> Chuck McCown wrote: >>> > It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process >>> > down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they >>> > think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. >>> > Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... >>> > So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as before. >>> > Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And I >>> > donāt have to do much other than MC the event. >>> > *From:* TJ Trout >>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM >>> > *To:* af@afmug.com >>> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>> > Chuck, >>> > How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource the >>> > unpalatable parts of planning? >>> > Obviously the cost would go up per person? Once you broke it off into >>> > wispa I haven't attended since... >>> > Maybe I should give it a shot, you will be having a AF group @ >>> > wispamerica in 20 days? >>> > TJ >>> > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Faisal Imtiaz >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > >>My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... >>> > Thus the need for a fuse ! >&
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We can do that. Maybe my wifeās new smoker will be done by then and we can eat some smoky dead animals. From: TJ Trout Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Chuck, I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just play around with some stuff? TJ On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Red Iguana We could do it kinda like it started. Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and whoever shows up shows up. Not sure what Wispa would think about that... From: Cameron Crum Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Jay Weekley" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. Chuck McCown wrote: > It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process > down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they > think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. > Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... > So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as before. > Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And I > donāt have to do much other than MC the event. > *From:* TJ Trout > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > Chuck, > How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource the > unpalatable parts of planning? > Obviously the cost would go up per person? Once you broke it off into > wispa I haven't attended since... > Maybe I should give it a shot, you will be having a AF group @ > wispamerica in 20 days? > TJ > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Faisal Imtiaz > wrote: > > >>My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... > Thus the need for a fuse ! > :) > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > http://www.snappytelecom.net > > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or > Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > > > *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:31:55 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... > *From:* Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 2:13 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > That's hitting the nail on the head. I don't want penis > enlargement spam, but I definitely want to hear about surge > protectors and power systems and network equipment. > Spam me Chuck. Spam me like one of your French girls. > -- Original Message -- > From: "Mathew Howard" > To: "af" > Sent: 2/13/2018 3:57:19 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > Ha... I never even realized that those weren't going to > the list anymore... for some reason gmail puts it in my > afmug folder. > > The only thing that's slightly annoying is that I get them > more than once because my other email address is on > Chuck's list too, but I don't care enough to bother > unsubscribing... I actually like getting spam about stuff > that I'm interested in. > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:53 PM, Chuck McCown > wrote: > > Doing it this way, someone can simply unsubscribe from > the spam but not the list. And Mail Chimp will never > ever ever
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Chuck, I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no real firm plan, just play around with some stuff? TJ On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Red Iguana > > We could do it kinda like it started. > > Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and > whoever shows up shows up. > > Not sure what Wispa would think about that... > > *From:* Cameron Crum > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some > powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. > > > On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > >> and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> -- >> *From: *"Jay Weekley" >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> >> I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA >> shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. >> >> Chuck McCown wrote: >> > It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process >> > down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they >> > think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. >> > Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... >> > So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as before. >> > Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And I >> > donāt have to do much other than MC the event. >> > *From:* TJ Trout >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM >> > *To:* af@afmug.com >> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> > Chuck, >> > How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource the >> > unpalatable parts of planning? >> > Obviously the cost would go up per person? Once you broke it off into >> > wispa I haven't attended since... >> > Maybe I should give it a shot, you will be having a AF group @ >> > wispamerica in 20 days? >> > TJ >> > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Faisal Imtiaz >> > wrote: >> > >> > >>My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... >> > Thus the need for a fuse ! >> > :) >> > Faisal Imtiaz >> > Snappy Internet & Telecom >> > http://www.snappytelecom.net >> > >> > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518> >> >> > >> > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> >> Option 2 or >> > Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >> > >> >> > >> > *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com >> > *To: *af@afmug.com >> > *Sent: *Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:31:55 PM >> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> > >> > My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... >> > *From:* Adam Moffett >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 2:13 PM >> > *To:* af@afmug.com >> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> >> > That's hitting the nail on the head. I don't want penis >> > enlargement spam, but I definitely want to hear about surge >> > protectors and power systems and network equipment. >> > Spam me Chuck. Spam me like one of your French girls. >> > -- Original Message -- >> > From: "Mathew Howard" >> > To: "af" >> > Sent: 2/13/2018 3:57:19 PM >&
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*the yolk - sometime swipe typing does me wrong. On Thursday, February 15, 2018, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > I prefer 8 minutes, that way there yolk is just barely solid, not chalky. > I guess it depends on how you're preparing them. > > On Thursday, February 15, 2018, Brian Webster > wrote: > >> If it werenāt for this list I would have never investigated a better way >> to make hard boiled eggs! >> >> >> >> For the record, boiling the water first then adding the eggs for the 12 >> minutes works great J There was a lot of scientific research contributed >> to the group by Chuck on that topicā¦. >> >> >> >> Thank You, >> >> Brian Webster >> >> www.wirelessmapping.com >> >> www.Broadband-Mapping.com >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:40 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> I am going to attempt to put something on the signup process warning >> folks that they will be subject to horrible amounts of on-topic spam. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Philip Rankin >> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 6:28 PM >> >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> >> >> >> Spam me all you want Chuck. Unbeknownst to you, you have helped me more >> than about anyone throughout the years with your wisdom and products Sir! >> I suspect the same can be said about almost everyone on this list! I >> sincerely appreciate your list, your work, products and more so your wisdom >> throughout the years. Spam away Buddy! >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:43 PM Jaime Solorza >> wrote: >> >> Awesome!!! >> >> >> >> Jaime Solorza >> >> >> >> On Feb 13, 2018 5:30 PM, wrote: >> >> Got a guest room waiting for you. >> >> >> >> *From:* Jaime Solorza >> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:21 PM >> >> *To:* Animal Farm >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> >> >> >> Maybe this summer I might drive up to bother Chuck and Jennywe are >> thinking of hiking near 4 corners area. Depends on Windy City schedule and >> SCADA projects...I think I can bribe him with choice El Paso eats to >> let me tour his chop shop. >> >> Jaime Solorza >> >> >> >> On Feb 13, 2018 5:00 PM, "Robert Andrews" wrote: >> >> Can I show up in Utah sometime anyways... I am dying to see the new LED >> cavern lights... :) >> >> On 02/13/2018 02:48 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >> >> Yep, dead of night with greasepaint on my face a new list was >> born... again... >> I can name names over at WISPA that caused the problem I still >> remember names. >> But I think we have kinda patched things up. >> They have pretty much co-opted the whole AnimalFarm idea with my >> blessings and I get to go to the show once a year and see yāall. >> As much as I would love to do an old fashioned AnimalFarm, I am too old >> and lazy to put on the show. >> *From:* Chuck Hogg >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:38 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer" >> listservs. Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the >> time, and his list was moved over. I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list, >> as I was a vendor at the time for WISPA. That's when sh!t hit the fan, >> some other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola >> list wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I >> notified Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped >> from under me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was >> going to be taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down >> the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born. A...the >> memories :) >> Regards, >> Chuck >> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup >> wrote: >> >> Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the >> motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list >> server went down and he said it was a
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I prefer 8 minutes, that way there yolk is just barely solid, not chalky. I guess it depends on how you're preparing them. On Thursday, February 15, 2018, Brian Webster wrote: > If it werenāt for this list I would have never investigated a better way > to make hard boiled eggs! > > > > For the record, boiling the water first then adding the eggs for the 12 > minutes works great J There was a lot of scientific research contributed > to the group by Chuck on that topicā¦. > > > > Thank You, > > Brian Webster > > www.wirelessmapping.com > > www.Broadband-Mapping.com > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:40 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > > > Thanks, > > > > I am going to attempt to put something on the signup process warning folks > that they will be subject to horrible amounts of on-topic spam. > > > > > > *From:* Philip Rankin > > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 6:28 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > > > Spam me all you want Chuck. Unbeknownst to you, you have helped me more > than about anyone throughout the years with your wisdom and products Sir! > I suspect the same can be said about almost everyone on this list! I > sincerely appreciate your list, your work, products and more so your wisdom > throughout the years. Spam away Buddy! > > > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:43 PM Jaime Solorza > wrote: > > Awesome!!! > > > > Jaime Solorza > > > > On Feb 13, 2018 5:30 PM, wrote: > > Got a guest room waiting for you. > > > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:21 PM > > *To:* Animal Farm > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > > > Maybe this summer I might drive up to bother Chuck and Jennywe are > thinking of hiking near 4 corners area. Depends on Windy City schedule and > SCADA projects...I think I can bribe him with choice El Paso eats to > let me tour his chop shop. > > Jaime Solorza > > > > On Feb 13, 2018 5:00 PM, "Robert Andrews" wrote: > > Can I show up in Utah sometime anyways... I am dying to see the new LED > cavern lights... :) > > On 02/13/2018 02:48 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > Yep, dead of night with greasepaint on my face a new list was born... > again... > I can name names over at WISPA that caused the problem I still > remember names. > But I think we have kinda patched things up. > They have pretty much co-opted the whole AnimalFarm idea with my blessings > and I get to go to the show once a year and see yāall. > As much as I would love to do an old fashioned AnimalFarm, I am too old > and lazy to put on the show. > *From:* Chuck Hogg > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:38 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer" > listservs. Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the > time, and his list was moved over. I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list, as > I was a vendor at the time for WISPA. That's when sh!t hit the fan, some > other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola list > wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I notified > Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped from under > me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was going to be > taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down the > motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born. A...the memories :) > Regards, > Chuck > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup > wrote: > > Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the > motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list > server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of > town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it > back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately, > the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a > short time on the WISPA list serv? > > I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great. > > On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > > You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got > hereā¦. > > The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to > WISPA. Canāt recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the > organizatio
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I am still up in the air between adding vinegar or baking soda to the water. Need to add lots of salt for certain. From: Brian Webster Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:34 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck If it werenāt for this list I would have never investigated a better way to make hard boiled eggs! For the record, boiling the water first then adding the eggs for the 12 minutes works great J There was a lot of scientific research contributed to the group by Chuck on that topicā¦. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Thanks, I am going to attempt to put something on the signup process warning folks that they will be subject to horrible amounts of on-topic spam. From: Philip Rankin Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 6:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Spam me all you want Chuck. Unbeknownst to you, you have helped me more than about anyone throughout the years with your wisdom and products Sir! I suspect the same can be said about almost everyone on this list! I sincerely appreciate your list, your work, products and more so your wisdom throughout the years. Spam away Buddy! On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:43 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: Awesome!!! Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2018 5:30 PM, wrote: Got a guest room waiting for you. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:21 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Maybe this summer I might drive up to bother Chuck and Jennywe are thinking of hiking near 4 corners area. Depends on Windy City schedule and SCADA projects...I think I can bribe him with choice El Paso eats to let me tour his chop shop. Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2018 5:00 PM, "Robert Andrews" wrote: Can I show up in Utah sometime anyways... I am dying to see the new LED cavern lights... :) On 02/13/2018 02:48 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Yep, dead of night with greasepaint on my face a new list was born... again... I can name names over at WISPA that caused the problem I still remember names. But I think we have kinda patched things up. They have pretty much co-opted the whole AnimalFarm idea with my blessings and I get to go to the show once a year and see yāall. As much as I would love to do an old fashioned AnimalFarm, I am too old and lazy to put on the show. *From:* Chuck Hogg *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:38 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer" listservs. Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the time, and his list was moved over. I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list, as I was a vendor at the time for WISPA. That's when sh!t hit the fan, some other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola list wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I notified Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped from under me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was going to be taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born. A...the memories :) Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup wrote: Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately, the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a short time on the WISPA list serv? I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great. On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got hereā¦. The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. Canāt recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted the infamous āI quitā email - and that was pretty much the end of Part 15 and the list. I actually think that was during a Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that. Might have even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic anyway. There are WISPA lists
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If it werenāt for this list I would have never investigated a better way to make hard boiled eggs! For the record, boiling the water first then adding the eggs for the 12 minutes works great J There was a lot of scientific research contributed to the group by Chuck on that topicā¦. Thank You, Brian Webster <http://www.wirelessmapping.com> www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Thanks, I am going to attempt to put something on the signup process warning folks that they will be subject to horrible amounts of on-topic spam. From: Philip Rankin Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 6:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Spam me all you want Chuck. Unbeknownst to you, you have helped me more than about anyone throughout the years with your wisdom and products Sir! I suspect the same can be said about almost everyone on this list! I sincerely appreciate your list, your work, products and more so your wisdom throughout the years. Spam away Buddy! On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:43 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: Awesome!!! Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2018 5:30 PM, wrote: Got a guest room waiting for you. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:21 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Maybe this summer I might drive up to bother Chuck and Jennywe are thinking of hiking near 4 corners area. Depends on Windy City schedule and SCADA projects...I think I can bribe him with choice El Paso eats to let me tour his chop shop. Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2018 5:00 PM, "Robert Andrews" wrote: Can I show up in Utah sometime anyways... I am dying to see the new LED cavern lights... :) On 02/13/2018 02:48 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Yep, dead of night with greasepaint on my face a new list was born... again... I can name names over at WISPA that caused the problem I still remember names. But I think we have kinda patched things up. They have pretty much co-opted the whole AnimalFarm idea with my blessings and I get to go to the show once a year and see yāall. As much as I would love to do an old fashioned AnimalFarm, I am too old and lazy to put on the show. *From:* Chuck Hogg *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:38 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer" listservs. Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the time, and his list was moved over. I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list, as I was a vendor at the time for WISPA. That's when sh!t hit the fan, some other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola list wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I notified Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped from under me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was going to be taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born. A...the memories :) Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup wrote: Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately, the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a short time on the WISPA list serv? I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great. On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got hereā¦. The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. Canāt recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted the infamous āI quitā email - and that was pretty much the end of Part 15 and the list. I actually think that was during a Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that. Might have even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic anyway. There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Yes - itās Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money for the cost of hosting it. This list has itās advantages. Itās membership leans toward a group of people who have known each other for a very
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Mid January works too ;) On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:27 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > That could work. The middle of summer would be about as far as you can get > from the Wispa events... and punching holes in the dirt sounds like fun. > > On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 6:25 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > >> Sure, but we need to pick the right season. Nothing near any Wispa event >> in timing either. They are pretty good to me. >> >> Maybe another summer session where I break out the directional drilling >> machine and let everyone punch some holes in the dirt. >> >> -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews >> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 4:55 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> >> I would like to ask Chuck if he would host a externally funded BBQ/BOF >> not AF, that would be pretty informal, so that we could all get some >> eyeball time with each other... I like Utah cause it's driveable to so >> much of the US and excellent flights in for the rest and it could happen >> in a better month than when we are doing all our spring cleaning/fall >> prepping.. Totally understand it that's not in the cards, but if there >> was a chance, would like to propose something low-key.. >> >> Robert >> >> On 02/14/2018 02:57 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: >> >>> I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some >>> powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett >> af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: >>> >>> and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+In >>> telligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/ >>> company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com >>> /company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> >>> >>> *From: *"Jay Weekley" >> <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> >>> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>> >>> I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA >>> shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. >>> >>> Chuck McCown wrote: >>> > It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process >>> > down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they > >>> think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. >>> > Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... >>> > So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as >>> before. > Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And >>> I > donāt have to do much other than MC the event. >>> > *From:* TJ Trout >>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM >>> > *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>> > Chuck, >>> > How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource >>> the > unpalatable parts of planning? >>> > Obviously the cost would go up per person? Once you broke it off >>> into > wispa I haven't attended since... >>> > Maybe I should give it a shot, you will be having a AF group @ > >>> wispamerica in 20 days? >>> > TJ >>> > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Faisal Imtiaz > < >>> fai...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement >>> effect... >>> &g
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That could work. The middle of summer would be about as far as you can get from the Wispa events... and punching holes in the dirt sounds like fun. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 6:25 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Sure, but we need to pick the right season. Nothing near any Wispa event > in timing either. They are pretty good to me. > > Maybe another summer session where I break out the directional drilling > machine and let everyone punch some holes in the dirt. > > -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 4:55 PM > To: af@afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > I would like to ask Chuck if he would host a externally funded BBQ/BOF > not AF, that would be pretty informal, so that we could all get some > eyeball time with each other... I like Utah cause it's driveable to so > much of the US and excellent flights in for the rest and it could happen > in a better month than when we are doing all our spring cleaning/fall > prepping.. Totally understand it that's not in the cards, but if there > was a chance, would like to propose something low-key.. > > Robert > > On 02/14/2018 02:57 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: > >> I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some >> powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett > af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: >> >> and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+In >> telligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/ >> company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin. >> com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> >> >> *From: *"Jay Weekley" > <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> >> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> >> I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA >> shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. >> >> Chuck McCown wrote: >> > It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process > >> down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they > think >> that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. >> > Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... >> > So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as >> before. > Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And >> I > donāt have to do much other than MC the event. >> > *From:* TJ Trout >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM >> > *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> > Chuck, >> > How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource >> the > unpalatable parts of planning? >> > Obviously the cost would go up per person? Once you broke it off >> into > wispa I haven't attended since... >> > Maybe I should give it a shot, you will be having a AF group @ > >> wispamerica in 20 days? >> > TJ >> > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Faisal Imtiaz > < >> fai...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote: >> > >> > >>My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... >> > Thus the need for a fuse ! >> > :) >> > Faisal Imtiaz >> > Snappy Internet & Telecom >> > http://www.snappytelecom.net >> > >> > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> >> > >> > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 >> Option 2 or >> > Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >> >> >
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AF in SLC! So much yes... On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 6:28 PM, Carl Peterson wrote: > It could just be an AF reunion. Doesn't need to be a full on show. I > liked Animal Farm better then the Wispa events. Felt more authentic. > > On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 7:52 PM, Jason McKemie < > j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > >> The AF fiber edition was great. >> >> >> On Wednesday, February 14, 2018, Chuck McCown wrote: >> >>> Sure, but we need to pick the right season. Nothing near any Wispa >>> event in timing either. They are pretty good to me. >>> >>> Maybe another summer session where I break out the directional drilling >>> machine and let everyone punch some holes in the dirt. >>> >>> -Original Message----- From: Robert Andrews >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 4:55 PM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>> >>> I would like to ask Chuck if he would host a externally funded BBQ/BOF >>> not AF, that would be pretty informal, so that we could all get some >>> eyeball time with each other... I like Utah cause it's driveable to so >>> much of the US and excellent flights in for the rest and it could happen >>> in a better month than when we are doing all our spring cleaning/fall >>> prepping.. Totally understand it that's not in the cards, but if there >>> was a chance, would like to propose something low-key.. >>> >>> Robert >>> >>> On 02/14/2018 02:57 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: >>> >>>> I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some >>>> powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett >>> <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: >>>> >>>> and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> - >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+In >>>> telligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/ >>>> company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com >>>> /company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From: *"Jay Weekley" >>> <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> >>>> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>>> >>>> I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two >>>> WISPA >>>> shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. >>>> >>>> Chuck McCown wrote: >>>> > It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process >>>> > down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they > >>>> think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. >>>> > Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... >>>> > So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as >>>> before. > Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And >>>> I > donāt have to do much other than MC the event. >>>> > *From:* TJ Trout >>>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM >>>> > *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>>> > Chuck, >>>> > How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource >>>> the > unpalatable parts of planning? >>>> > Obviously the cost would go up per person? Once you broke it off >>>> into > wispa I haven
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It could just be an AF reunion. Doesn't need to be a full on show. I liked Animal Farm better then the Wispa events. Felt more authentic. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 7:52 PM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > The AF fiber edition was great. > > > On Wednesday, February 14, 2018, Chuck McCown wrote: > >> Sure, but we need to pick the right season. Nothing near any Wispa event >> in timing either. They are pretty good to me. >> >> Maybe another summer session where I break out the directional drilling >> machine and let everyone punch some holes in the dirt. >> >> -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews >> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 4:55 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> >> I would like to ask Chuck if he would host a externally funded BBQ/BOF >> not AF, that would be pretty informal, so that we could all get some >> eyeball time with each other... I like Utah cause it's driveable to so >> much of the US and excellent flights in for the rest and it could happen >> in a better month than when we are doing all our spring cleaning/fall >> prepping.. Totally understand it that's not in the cards, but if there >> was a chance, would like to propose something low-key.. >> >> Robert >> >> On 02/14/2018 02:57 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: >> >>> I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some >>> powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett >> af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: >>> >>> and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+In >>> telligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/ >>> company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com >>> /company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> >>> >>> *From: *"Jay Weekley" >> <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> >>> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>> >>> I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA >>> shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. >>> >>> Chuck McCown wrote: >>> > It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process >>> > down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they > >>> think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. >>> > Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... >>> > So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as >>> before. > Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And >>> I > donāt have to do much other than MC the event. >>> > *From:* TJ Trout >>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM >>> > *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>> > Chuck, >>> > How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource >>> the > unpalatable parts of planning? >>> > Obviously the cost would go up per person? Once you broke it off >>> into > wispa I haven't attended since... >>> > Maybe I should give it a shot, you will be having a AF group @ > >>> wispamerica in 20 days? >>> > TJ >>> > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Faisal Imtiaz > < >>> fai...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement >>> effect.
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Yeah! Chuck McCown wrote: Sure, but we need to pick the right season. Nothing near any Wispa event in timing either. They are pretty good to me. Maybe another summer session where I break out the directional drilling machine and let everyone punch some holes in the dirt. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 4:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I would like to ask Chuck if he would host a externally funded BBQ/BOF not AF, that would be pretty informal, so that we could all get some eyeball time with each other... I like Utah cause it's driveable to so much of the US and excellent flights in for the rest and it could happen in a better month than when we are doing all our spring cleaning/fall prepping.. Totally understand it that's not in the cards, but if there was a chance, would like to propose something low-key.. Robert On 02/14/2018 02:57 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Jay Weekley" mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. Chuck McCown wrote: > It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process > down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they > think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. > Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... > So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as before. > Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And I > donāt have to do much other than MC the event. > *From:* TJ Trout > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > Chuck, > How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource the > unpalatable parts of planning? > Obviously the cost would go up per person? Once you broke it off into > wispa I haven't attended since... > Maybe I should give it a shot, you will be having a AF group @ > wispamerica in 20 days? > TJ > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Faisal Imtiaz > mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote: > > >>My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... > Thus the need for a fuse ! > :) > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > http://www.snappytelecom.net > > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or > Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > -------- > > *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > *Sent: *Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:31:55 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... > *From:* Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 2:13 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > That's hitting the nail on the head. I don't want penis > enlargement spam, but I definitely want to hear about surge > protectors and power systems and network equipment. > Spam me Chuck. Spam me like one of your French girls. > --
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The AF fiber edition was great. On Wednesday, February 14, 2018, Chuck McCown wrote: > Sure, but we need to pick the right season. Nothing near any Wispa event > in timing either. They are pretty good to me. > > Maybe another summer session where I break out the directional drilling > machine and let everyone punch some holes in the dirt. > > -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 4:55 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > I would like to ask Chuck if he would host a externally funded BBQ/BOF > not AF, that would be pretty informal, so that we could all get some > eyeball time with each other... I like Utah cause it's driveable to so > much of the US and excellent flights in for the rest and it could happen > in a better month than when we are doing all our spring cleaning/fall > prepping.. Totally understand it that's not in the cards, but if there > was a chance, would like to propose something low-key.. > > Robert > > On 02/14/2018 02:57 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: > >> I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some >> powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett > af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: >> >> and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+In >> telligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/ >> company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin. >> com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> >> >> *From: *"Jay Weekley" > <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> >> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> >> I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA >> shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. >> >> Chuck McCown wrote: >> > It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process > >> down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they > think >> that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. >> > Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... >> > So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as >> before. > Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And >> I > donāt have to do much other than MC the event. >> > *From:* TJ Trout >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM >> > *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> > Chuck, >> > How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource >> the > unpalatable parts of planning? >> > Obviously the cost would go up per person? Once you broke it off >> into > wispa I haven't attended since... >> > Maybe I should give it a shot, you will be having a AF group @ > >> wispamerica in 20 days? >> > TJ >> > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Faisal Imtiaz > < >> fai...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote: >> > >> > >>My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... >> > Thus the need for a fuse ! >> > :) >> > Faisal Imtiaz >> > Snappy Internet & Telecom >> > http://www.snappytelecom.net >> > >> > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> >> > >> > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 >> Option 2 or >> > Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >> >> > --- >> - >> > >> > *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com <m
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Sure, but we need to pick the right season. Nothing near any Wispa event in timing either. They are pretty good to me. Maybe another summer session where I break out the directional drilling machine and let everyone punch some holes in the dirt. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 4:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I would like to ask Chuck if he would host a externally funded BBQ/BOF not AF, that would be pretty informal, so that we could all get some eyeball time with each other... I like Utah cause it's driveable to so much of the US and excellent flights in for the rest and it could happen in a better month than when we are doing all our spring cleaning/fall prepping.. Totally understand it that's not in the cards, but if there was a chance, would like to propose something low-key.. Robert On 02/14/2018 02:57 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Jay Weekley" mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. Chuck McCown wrote: > It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process > down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they > think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. > Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... > So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as before. > Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And I > donāt have to do much other than MC the event. > *From:* TJ Trout > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > Chuck, > How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource the > unpalatable parts of planning? > Obviously the cost would go up per person? Once you broke it off into > wispa I haven't attended since... > Maybe I should give it a shot, you will be having a AF group @ > wispamerica in 20 days? > TJ > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Faisal Imtiaz > mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote: > > >>My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... > Thus the need for a fuse ! > :) > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > http://www.snappytelecom.net > > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or > Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > ------------ > > *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > *Sent: *Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:31:55 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... > *From:* Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 2:13 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > That's hitting the nail on the head. I don't want penis > enlargement spam, but I definitely want to hear about surge > protectors and power systems and network equipment. > Spam me Chuck. Spam me like one of your French girls. > -- Original Message -- >
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I would like to ask Chuck if he would host a externally funded BBQ/BOF not AF, that would be pretty informal, so that we could all get some eyeball time with each other... I like Utah cause it's driveable to so much of the US and excellent flights in for the rest and it could happen in a better month than when we are doing all our spring cleaning/fall prepping.. Totally understand it that's not in the cards, but if there was a chance, would like to propose something low-key.. Robert On 02/14/2018 02:57 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Jay Weekley" mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. Chuck McCown wrote: > It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process > down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they > think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. > Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... > So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as before. > Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And I > donāt have to do much other than MC the event. > *From:* TJ Trout > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > Chuck, > How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource the > unpalatable parts of planning? > Obviously the cost would go up per person? Once you broke it off into > wispa I haven't attended since... > Maybe I should give it a shot, you will be having a AF group @ > wispamerica in 20 days? > TJ > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Faisal Imtiaz > mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote: > > >>My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... > Thus the need for a fuse ! > :) > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > http://www.snappytelecom.net > > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or > Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > ------------ > > *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > *Sent: *Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:31:55 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... > *From:* Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 2:13 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > That's hitting the nail on the head. I don't want penis > enlargement spam, but I definitely want to hear about surge > protectors and power systems and network equipment. > Spam me Chuck. Spam me like one of your French girls. > -- Original Message -- > From: "Mathew Howard" mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> > To: "af" mailto:af@afmug.com>> > Sent: 2/13/2018 3:57:19 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > Ha... I never even realized that those weren't going to > the list
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Red Iguana We could do it kinda like it started. Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel conference room and whoever shows up shows up. Not sure what Wispa would think about that... From: Cameron Crum Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -- From: "Jay Weekley" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. Chuck McCown wrote: > It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process > down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they > think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. > Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... > So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as before. > Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And I > donāt have to do much other than MC the event. > *From:* TJ Trout > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > Chuck, > How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource the > unpalatable parts of planning? > Obviously the cost would go up per person? Once you broke it off into > wispa I haven't attended since... > Maybe I should give it a shot, you will be having a AF group @ > wispamerica in 20 days? > TJ > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Faisal Imtiaz > wrote: > > >>My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... > Thus the need for a fuse ! > :) > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > http://www.snappytelecom.net > > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or > Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > > > *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:31:55 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... > *From:* Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 2:13 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > That's hitting the nail on the head. I don't want penis > enlargement spam, but I definitely want to hear about surge > protectors and power systems and network equipment. > Spam me Chuck. Spam me like one of your French girls. > -- Original Message -- > From: "Mathew Howard" > To: "af" > Sent: 2/13/2018 3:57:19 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > Ha... I never even realized that those weren't going to > the list anymore... for some reason gmail puts it in my > afmug folder. > > The only thing that's slightly annoying is that I get them > more than once because my other email address is on > Chuck's list too, but I don't care enough to bother > unsubscribing... I actually like getting spam about stuff > that I'm interested in. > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:53 PM, Chuck McCown > wrote: > > Doing it this way, someone can simply unsubscribe from > the spam but not the list. And Mail Chimp will never > ever ever ever let me send that person anything again > for all of eternity. They rate the quality of lists > for how many bounces, unsubscribes etc. I have a > pretty good rating with them. > > The alternative is going back to the Friday spam and > swap fest. > > BTW, my distributors have spam rights too. But only > on Friday morning. > > I prefer the list to be free from spam like it is now >
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I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good excuse to get some powder days in...oh, and the conference was good too. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ---------- > *From: *"Jay Weekley" > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA > shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. > > Chuck McCown wrote: > > It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process > > down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they > > think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. > > Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... > > So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as before. > > Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And I > > donāt have to do much other than MC the event. > > *From:* TJ Trout > > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > Chuck, > > How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource the > > unpalatable parts of planning? > > Obviously the cost would go up per person? Once you broke it off into > > wispa I haven't attended since... > > Maybe I should give it a shot, you will be having a AF group @ > > wispamerica in 20 days? > > TJ > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Faisal Imtiaz > > wrote: > > > > >>My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... > > Thus the need for a fuse ! > > :) > > Faisal Imtiaz > > Snappy Internet & Telecom > > http://www.snappytelecom.net > > > > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518> > > > > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> > Option 2 or > > Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > > > ---- > > > > *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com > > *To: *af@afmug.com > > *Sent: *Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:31:55 PM > > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > > > My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... > > *From:* Adam Moffett > > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 2:13 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > > That's hitting the nail on the head. I don't want penis > > enlargement spam, but I definitely want to hear about surge > > protectors and power systems and network equipment. > > Spam me Chuck. Spam me like one of your French girls. > > -- Original Message -- > > From: "Mathew Howard" > > To: "af" > > Sent: 2/13/2018 3:57:19 PM > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > > > Ha... I never even realized that those weren't going to > > the list anymore... for some reason gmail puts it in my > > afmug folder. > > > > The only thing that's slightly annoying is that I get them > > more than once because my other email address is on > > Chuck's list too, but I don't care enough to bother > > unsubscribing... I actually like getting spam about stuff > > that I'm interested in. > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:53 PM, Chuck McCown > > wrote: > > > > Doing it this way, someone can simply unsubscribe from > > the spam but not the list. And Mail Chimp will never
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and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jay Weekley" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. Chuck McCown wrote: > It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process > down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they > think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. > Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... > So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as before. > Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And I > donāt have to do much other than MC the event. > *From:* TJ Trout > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > Chuck, > How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource the > unpalatable parts of planning? > Obviously the cost would go up per person? Once you broke it off into > wispa I haven't attended since... > Maybe I should give it a shot, you will be having a AF group @ > wispamerica in 20 days? > TJ > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Faisal Imtiaz > wrote: > > >>My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... > Thus the need for a fuse ! > :) > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > http://www.snappytelecom.net > > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or > Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > ---- > > *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:31:55 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... > *From:* Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 2:13 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > That's hitting the nail on the head. I don't want penis > enlargement spam, but I definitely want to hear about surge > protectors and power systems and network equipment. > Spam me Chuck. Spam me like one of your French girls. > -- Original Message -- > From: "Mathew Howard" > To: "af" > Sent: 2/13/2018 3:57:19 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > Ha... I never even realized that those weren't going to > the list anymore... for some reason gmail puts it in my > afmug folder. > > The only thing that's slightly annoying is that I get them > more than once because my other email address is on > Chuck's list too, but I don't care enough to bother > unsubscribing... I actually like getting spam about stuff > that I'm interested in. > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:53 PM, Chuck McCown > wrote: > > Doing it this way, someone can simply unsubscribe from > the spam but not the list. And Mail Chimp will never > ever ever ever let me send that person anything again > for all of eternity. They rate the quality of lists > for how many bounces, unsubscribes etc. I have a > pretty good rating with them. > > The alternative is going back to the Friday spam and > swap fest. > > BTW, my distributors have spam rights too. But only > on Friday morning. > > I prefer the list to be free from spam like it is now > compared to before. > > -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:14 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > > I hope that was someone being humorous... Otherwise... > #OFFWITHTHEIRHEAD ... Come on, Chuck's products are > about the most > worthy of any vendor I know. And POE fuses... It's > a fricken godsend!!! > > BTW I need to by a bunch and wish I could buy the > little racks with > them.. Oh well, amazon... > > > Robert > > On 02/13/2018 11:05 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp > list about once a year. > > You do realize that this list is my list, right? > > So essentially every time I make a posting here I > am spamming you, right? > > I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. > But I think it is cleaner and better quality to > use MailChimp. > > Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That > will prevent it from ever happening again. >
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One of the things I liked about Animal Farm was that the timing was much better than any of the other shows. The WISPA shows are late enough in the spring that the weather is already getting nice enough to be doing (non-essential) tower work, and early enough in the fall that it's still nice out. I wish they'd move WISPAmerica up to late January/early February. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 12:00 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: > I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA > shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. > > Chuck McCown wrote: > >> It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process down. >> But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they think that AF >> as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. >> Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... >> So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as before. >> Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And I donāt >> have to do much other than MC the event. >> *From:* TJ Trout >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> Chuck, >> How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource the >> unpalatable parts of planning? >> Obviously the cost would go up per person? Once you broke it off into >> wispa I haven't attended since... >> Maybe I should give it a shot, you will be having a AF group @ >> wispamerica in 20 days? >> TJ >> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Faisal Imtiaz >> wrote: >> >> >>My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... >> Thus the need for a fuse ! >> :) >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> http://www.snappytelecom.net >> >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or >> Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >> ---- >> >> >> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:31:55 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> >> My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... >> *From:* Adam Moffett >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 2:13 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> That's hitting the nail on the head. I don't want penis >> enlargement spam, but I definitely want to hear about surge >> protectors and power systems and network equipment. >> Spam me Chuck. Spam me like one of your French girls. >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Mathew Howard" >> To: "af" >> Sent: 2/13/2018 3:57:19 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> >> Ha... I never even realized that those weren't going to >> the list anymore... for some reason gmail puts it in my >> afmug folder. >> >> The only thing that's slightly annoying is that I get them >> more than once because my other email address is on >> Chuck's list too, but I don't care enough to bother >> unsubscribing... I actually like getting spam about stuff >> that I'm interested in. >> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:53 PM, Chuck McCown >> wrote: >> >> Doing it this way, someone can simply unsubscribe from >> the spam but not the list. And Mail Chimp will never >> ever ever ever let me send that person anything again >> for all of eternity. They rate the quality of lists >> for how many bounces, unsubscribes etc. I have a >> pretty good rating with them. >> >> The alternative is going back to the Friday spam and >> swap fest. >> >> BTW, my distributors have spam rights too. But only >> on Friday morning. >> >> I prefer the list to be free from spam like it is now >> compared to before. >> >> -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews >> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:14 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam fro
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I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with Animal Farm, two WISPA shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year. Chuck McCown wrote: It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as before. Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And I donāt have to do much other than MC the event. *From:* TJ Trout *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Chuck, How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource the unpalatable parts of planning? Obviously the cost would go up per person? Once you broke it off into wispa I haven't attended since... Maybe I should give it a shot, you will be having a AF group @ wispamerica in 20 days? TJ On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: >>My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... Thus the need for a fuse ! :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.snappytelecom.net Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:31:55 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... *From:* Adam Moffett *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 2:13 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck That's hitting the nail on the head. I don't want penis enlargement spam, but I definitely want to hear about surge protectors and power systems and network equipment. Spam me Chuck. Spam me like one of your French girls. -- Original Message -- From: "Mathew Howard" To: "af" Sent: 2/13/2018 3:57:19 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Ha... I never even realized that those weren't going to the list anymore... for some reason gmail puts it in my afmug folder. The only thing that's slightly annoying is that I get them more than once because my other email address is on Chuck's list too, but I don't care enough to bother unsubscribing... I actually like getting spam about stuff that I'm interested in. On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:53 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Doing it this way, someone can simply unsubscribe from the spam but not the list. And Mail Chimp will never ever ever ever let me send that person anything again for all of eternity. They rate the quality of lists for how many bounces, unsubscribes etc. I have a pretty good rating with them. The alternative is going back to the Friday spam and swap fest. BTW, my distributors have spam rights too. But only on Friday morning. I prefer the list to be free from spam like it is now compared to before. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I hope that was someone being humorous... Otherwise... #OFFWITHTHEIRHEAD ... Come on, Chuck's products are about the most worthy of any vendor I know. And POE fuses... It's a fricken godsend!!! BTW I need to by a bunch and wish I could buy the little racks with them.. Oh well, amazon... Robert On 02/13/2018 11:05 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. You do realize that this list is my list, right? So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever happening again. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com
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*nods* I'm the opposite of TJ. I probably won't go to an Animal Farm-only event, just like I don't go to MUMs anymore. Limited time away, let's just knock it out all at once. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:22:45 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as before. Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And I donāt have to do much other than MC the event. From: TJ Trout Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Chuck, How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource the unpalatable parts of planning? Obviously the cost would go up per person? Once you broke it off into wispa I haven't attended since... Maybe I should give it a shot, you will be having a AF group @ wispamerica in 20 days? TJ On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net > wrote: >> My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... Thus the need for a fuse ! :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.snappytelecom.net Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:31:55 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 2:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck That's hitting the nail on the head. I don't want penis enlargement spam, but I definitely want to hear about surge protectors and power systems and network equipment. Spam me Chuck. Spam me like one of your French girls. -- Original Message -- From: "Mathew Howard" < mhoward...@gmail.com > To: "af" < af@afmug.com > Sent: 2/13/2018 3:57:19 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Ha... I never even realized that those weren't going to the list anymore... for some reason gmail puts it in my afmug folder. The only thing that's slightly annoying is that I get them more than once because my other email address is on Chuck's list too, but I don't care enough to bother unsubscribing... I actually like getting spam about stuff that I'm interested in. On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:53 PM, Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: Doing it this way, someone can simply unsubscribe from the spam but not the list. And Mail Chimp will never ever ever ever let me send that person anything again for all of eternity. They rate the quality of lists for how many bounces, unsubscribes etc. I have a pretty good rating with them. The alternative is going back to the Friday spam and swap fest. BTW, my distributors have spam rights too. But only on Friday morning. I prefer the list to be free from spam like it is now compared to before. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I hope that was someone being humorous... Otherwise... #OFFWITHTHEIRHEAD ... Come on, Chuck's products are about the most worthy of any vendor I know. And POE fuses... It's a fricken godsend!!! BTW I need to by a bunch and wish I could buy the little racks with them.. Oh well, amazon... Robert On 02/13/2018 11:05 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. You do realize that this list is my list, right? So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever happening again. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. Jared
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It can be done. We outsourced much of it once we got the process down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good to me and I think they think that AF as its own show may cut attendance to WispAmerica. Two shows, same season, one much cheaper than the other... So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm track. Same format as before. Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss technical stuff. And I donāt have to do much other than MC the event. From: TJ Trout Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Chuck, How feasible would it be to bring AF back to Utah and outsource the unpalatable parts of planning? Obviously the cost would go up per person? Once you broke it off into wispa I haven't attended since... Maybe I should give it a shot, you will be having a AF group @ wispamerica in 20 days? TJ On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: >>My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... Thus the need for a fuse ! :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.snappytelecom.net Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:31:55 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck My surge protectors are known to have an enhancement effect... From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 2:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck That's hitting the nail on the head. I don't want penis enlargement spam, but I definitely want to hear about surge protectors and power systems and network equipment. Spam me Chuck. Spam me like one of your French girls. -- Original Message -- From: "Mathew Howard" To: "af" Sent: 2/13/2018 3:57:19 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Ha... I never even realized that those weren't going to the list anymore... for some reason gmail puts it in my afmug folder. The only thing that's slightly annoying is that I get them more than once because my other email address is on Chuck's list too, but I don't care enough to bother unsubscribing... I actually like getting spam about stuff that I'm interested in. On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:53 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Doing it this way, someone can simply unsubscribe from the spam but not the list. And Mail Chimp will never ever ever ever let me send that person anything again for all of eternity. They rate the quality of lists for how many bounces, unsubscribes etc. I have a pretty good rating with them. The alternative is going back to the Friday spam and swap fest. BTW, my distributors have spam rights too. But only on Friday morning. I prefer the list to be free from spam like it is now compared to before. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I hope that was someone being humorous... Otherwise... #OFFWITHTHEIRHEAD ... Come on, Chuck's products are about the most worthy of any vendor I know. And POE fuses... It's a fricken godsend!!! BTW I need to by a bunch and wish I could buy the little racks with them.. Oh well, amazon... Robert On 02/13/2018 11:05 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. You do realize that this list is my list, right? So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever happening again. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. Jared
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This is 2018, your email account is as private as a WallMart Store location. You don't like a piece of email, send it to trash You don't like getting emails from someone, black list it, filter it .. You don't like to be sent email, take your email address and go back home ! Bitching about it as if you have been violated, on a public list, does not buy you any favors or good graces.. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.snappytelecom.net Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - > From: fiber...@mail.com > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 1:58:23 PM > Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? > > I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any > business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely > poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. > > Jared
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Don't be a hater Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2018 7:07 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > He didn't tell you it is in his underground coffin. > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018, 6:30 PM wrote: > >> Got a guest room waiting for you. >> >> *From:* Jaime Solorza >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:21 PM >> *To:* Animal Farm >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> Maybe this summer I might drive up to bother Chuck and Jennywe are >> thinking of hiking near 4 corners area. Depends on Windy City schedule and >> SCADA projects...I think I can bribe him with choice El Paso eats to >> let me tour his chop shop. >> >> Jaime Solorza >> On Feb 13, 2018 5:00 PM, "Robert Andrews" wrote: >> >>> Can I show up in Utah sometime anyways... I am dying to see the new LED >>> cavern lights... :) >>> >>> On 02/13/2018 02:48 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>> >>>> Yep, dead of night with greasepaint on my face a new list was >>>> born... again... >>>> I can name names over at WISPA that caused the problem I still >>>> remember names. >>>> But I think we have kinda patched things up. >>>> They have pretty much co-opted the whole AnimalFarm idea with my >>>> blessings and I get to go to the show once a year and see yāall. >>>> As much as I would love to do an old fashioned AnimalFarm, I am too old >>>> and lazy to put on the show. >>>> *From:* Chuck Hogg >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:38 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>>> Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer" >>>> listservs. Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the >>>> time, and his list was moved over. I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list, >>>> as I was a vendor at the time for WISPA. That's when sh!t hit the fan, >>>> some other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola >>>> list wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I >>>> notified Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped >>>> from under me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was >>>> going to be taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down >>>> the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born. A...the >>>> memories :) >>>> Regards, >>>> Chuck >>>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup < >>>> george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the >>>> motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list >>>> server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of >>>> town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it >>>> back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately, >>>> the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a >>>> short time on the WISPA list serv? >>>> >>>> I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great. >>>> >>>> On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: >>>> >>>> You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got >>>> hereā¦. >>>> >>>> The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to >>>> WISPA. Canāt recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the >>>> organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted >>>> the infamous āI quitā email - and that was pretty much the end >>>> of Part 15 and the list. I actually think that was during a >>>> Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. >>>> >>>> Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was >>>> called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that. Might have >>>> even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic >>>> anyway. >>>> >>>> There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Yes - >>>> itās Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money >>>> for the cost of hosting it. >>>> >>>> This list has itās advantages. Itā
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He didn't tell you it is in his underground coffin. On Tue, Feb 13, 2018, 6:30 PM wrote: > Got a guest room waiting for you. > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:21 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > Maybe this summer I might drive up to bother Chuck and Jennywe are > thinking of hiking near 4 corners area. Depends on Windy City schedule and > SCADA projects...I think I can bribe him with choice El Paso eats to > let me tour his chop shop. > > Jaime Solorza > On Feb 13, 2018 5:00 PM, "Robert Andrews" wrote: > >> Can I show up in Utah sometime anyways... I am dying to see the new LED >> cavern lights... :) >> >> On 02/13/2018 02:48 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >> >>> Yep, dead of night with greasepaint on my face a new list was >>> born... again... >>> I can name names over at WISPA that caused the problem I still >>> remember names. >>> But I think we have kinda patched things up. >>> They have pretty much co-opted the whole AnimalFarm idea with my >>> blessings and I get to go to the show once a year and see yāall. >>> As much as I would love to do an old fashioned AnimalFarm, I am too old >>> and lazy to put on the show. >>> *From:* Chuck Hogg >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:38 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>> Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer" >>> listservs. Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the >>> time, and his list was moved over. I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list, >>> as I was a vendor at the time for WISPA. That's when sh!t hit the fan, >>> some other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola >>> list wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I >>> notified Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped >>> from under me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was >>> going to be taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down >>> the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born. A...the >>> memories :) >>> Regards, >>> Chuck >>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the >>> motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list >>> server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of >>> town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it >>> back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately, >>> the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a >>> short time on the WISPA list serv? >>> >>> I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great. >>> >>> On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: >>> >>> You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got >>> hereā¦. >>> >>> The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to >>> WISPA. Canāt recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the >>> organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted >>> the infamous āI quitā email - and that was pretty much the end >>> of Part 15 and the list. I actually think that was during a >>> Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. >>> >>> Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was >>> called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that. Might have >>> even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic >>> anyway. >>> >>> There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Yes - >>> itās Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money >>> for the cost of hosting it. >>> >>> This list has itās advantages. Itās membership leans toward a >>> group of people who have known each other for a very long >>> time. You probably shouldnāt say bad things about WBMfg >>> products (makes Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair >>> game. I like it since itās a place I can say things I canāt >>> really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I canāt say without >>> blowback
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Thanks, I am going to attempt to put something on the signup process warning folks that they will be subject to horrible amounts of on-topic spam. From: Philip Rankin Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 6:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Spam me all you want Chuck. Unbeknownst to you, you have helped me more than about anyone throughout the years with your wisdom and products Sir! I suspect the same can be said about almost everyone on this list! I sincerely appreciate your list, your work, products and more so your wisdom throughout the years. Spam away Buddy! On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:43 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: Awesome!!! Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2018 5:30 PM, wrote: Got a guest room waiting for you. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:21 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Maybe this summer I might drive up to bother Chuck and Jennywe are thinking of hiking near 4 corners area. Depends on Windy City schedule and SCADA projects...I think I can bribe him with choice El Paso eats to let me tour his chop shop. Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2018 5:00 PM, "Robert Andrews" wrote: Can I show up in Utah sometime anyways... I am dying to see the new LED cavern lights... :) On 02/13/2018 02:48 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Yep, dead of night with greasepaint on my face a new list was born... again... I can name names over at WISPA that caused the problem I still remember names. But I think we have kinda patched things up. They have pretty much co-opted the whole AnimalFarm idea with my blessings and I get to go to the show once a year and see yāall. As much as I would love to do an old fashioned AnimalFarm, I am too old and lazy to put on the show. *From:* Chuck Hogg *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:38 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer" listservs. Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the time, and his list was moved over. I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list, as I was a vendor at the time for WISPA. That's when sh!t hit the fan, some other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola list wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I notified Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped from under me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was going to be taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born. A...the memories :) Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup wrote: Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately, the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a short time on the WISPA list serv? I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great. On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got hereā¦. The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. Canāt recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted the infamous āI quitā email - and that was pretty much the end of Part 15 and the list. I actually think that was during a Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that. Might have even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic anyway. There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Yes - itās Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money for the cost of hosting it. This list has itās advantages. Itās membership leans toward a group of people who have known each other for a very long time. You probably shouldnāt say bad things about WBMfg products (makes Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair game. I like it since itās a place I can say things I canāt really say with a WISPA hat on (
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Title: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Philip, +1 on that. Ā He is the main reason we are doing fiber now. -- Best regards, Mark Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com -- Tuesday, February 13, 2018, 8:28:54 PM, you wrote: Spam me all you want Chuck. Unbeknownst to you, you have helped me more than about anyone throughout the years with your wisdom and products Sir! Ā I suspect the same can be said about almost everyone on this list! Ā I sincerely appreciate your list, your work, products and more so your wisdom throughout the years. Spam away Buddy! On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:43 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: Awesome!!! Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2018 5:30 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: Got a guest room waiting for you. Ā From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:21 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Maybe this summer I might drive up to bother Chuck and Jennywe are thinking of hiking near 4 corners area. Depends on Windy City schedule and SCADA projects...I think I can bribe him with choice El Paso eats to let me tour his chop shop. Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2018 5:00 PM, "Robert Andrews" wrote: Can I show up in Utah sometime anyways... I am dying to see the new LED cavern lights... Ā :) On 02/13/2018 02:48 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Yep, dead of night with greasepaint on my face Ā a new list was born... again... I can name names over at WISPA that caused the problem I still remember names. But I think we have kinda patched things up. They have pretty much co-opted the whole AnimalFarm idea with my blessings and I get to go to the show once a year and see yāall. As much as I would love to do an old fashioned AnimalFarm, I am too old and lazy to put on the show. *From:* Chuck Hogg *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:38 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer" listservs. Ā Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the time, and his list was moved over. Ā I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list, as I was a vendor at the time for WISPA. Ā That's when sh!t hit the fan, some other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola list wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I notified Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped from under me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was going to be taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born. Ā A...the memories :) Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup wrote: Ā Ā Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the Ā Ā motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list Ā Ā server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of Ā Ā town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it Ā Ā back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately, Ā Ā the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a Ā Ā short time on the WISPA list serv? Ā Ā I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great. Ā Ā On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: Ā Ā Ā Ā You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got hereā¦. Ā Ā Ā Ā The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Canāt recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the Ā Ā Ā Ā organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted Ā Ā Ā Ā the infamous āI quitā email - and that was pretty much the end Ā Ā Ā Ā of Part 15 and the list. Ā I actually think that was during a Ā Ā Ā Ā Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. Ā Ā Ā Ā Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was Ā Ā Ā Ā called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that. Ā Might have Ā Ā Ā Ā even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic anyway. Ā Ā Ā Ā There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Ā Yes - Ā Ā Ā Ā itās Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money Ā Ā Ā Ā for the cost of hosting it. Ā Ā Ā Ā This list has itās advantages. Ā Itās membership leans toward a Ā Ā Ā Ā group of people who have known each other for a very long Ā Ā Ā Ā time. Ā You probably shouldnāt say bad things about WBMfg Ā Ā Ā Ā products (makes Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair Ā Ā Ā Ā game. Ā I like it since itās a place I can say things I canāt Ā Ā Ā Ā really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I canāt say without Ā Ā Ā Ā blowback to WISPA). Ā Ā Ā Ā Mark Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too... Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
Spam me all you want Chuck. Unbeknownst to you, you have helped me more than about anyone throughout the years with your wisdom and products Sir! I suspect the same can be said about almost everyone on this list! I sincerely appreciate your list, your work, products and more so your wisdom throughout the years. Spam away Buddy! On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:43 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Awesome!!! > > > Jaime Solorza > > On Feb 13, 2018 5:30 PM, wrote: > >> Got a guest room waiting for you. >> >> *From:* Jaime Solorza >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:21 PM >> *To:* Animal Farm >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> >> Maybe this summer I might drive up to bother Chuck and Jennywe are >> thinking of hiking near 4 corners area. Depends on Windy City schedule and >> SCADA projects...I think I can bribe him with choice El Paso eats to >> let me tour his chop shop. >> >> Jaime Solorza >> >> On Feb 13, 2018 5:00 PM, "Robert Andrews" wrote: >> >>> Can I show up in Utah sometime anyways... I am dying to see the new LED >>> cavern lights... :) >>> >>> On 02/13/2018 02:48 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>> >>>> Yep, dead of night with greasepaint on my face a new list was >>>> born... again... >>>> I can name names over at WISPA that caused the problem I still >>>> remember names. >>>> But I think we have kinda patched things up. >>>> They have pretty much co-opted the whole AnimalFarm idea with my >>>> blessings and I get to go to the show once a year and see yāall. >>>> As much as I would love to do an old fashioned AnimalFarm, I am too old >>>> and lazy to put on the show. >>>> *From:* Chuck Hogg >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:38 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>>> Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer" >>>> listservs. Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the >>>> time, and his list was moved over. I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list, >>>> as I was a vendor at the time for WISPA. That's when sh!t hit the fan, >>>> some other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola >>>> list wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I >>>> notified Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped >>>> from under me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was >>>> going to be taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down >>>> the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born. A...the >>>> memories :) >>>> Regards, >>>> Chuck >>>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup < >>>> george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the >>>> motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list >>>> server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of >>>> town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it >>>> back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately, >>>> the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a >>>> short time on the WISPA list serv? >>>> >>>> I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great. >>>> >>>> On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: >>>> >>>> You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got >>>> hereā¦. >>>> >>>> The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to >>>> WISPA. Canāt recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the >>>> organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted >>>> the infamous āI quitā email - and that was pretty much the end >>>> of Part 15 and the list. I actually think that was during a >>>> Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. >>>> >>>> Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was >>>> called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that. Might have >>>> even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic >>>> anyway. >>>> >>&g
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
Title: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Gino, Remember that one. Canadians were giving me a hard time because I wouldn't leave the hotel. Ā Think it was 10 degrees outside. Ā At that point I hadn't seen temps below 40 for about 15 years. Ā -- Best regards, Mark Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com -- Tuesday, February 13, 2018, 6:51:22 PM, you wrote: I remember the first AF! Back in 2007? Attendance was about 20-30 individuals ? From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> Date: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 at 6:48 PM To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 Yep, dead of night with greasepaint on my face Ā a new list was born... again... I can name names over at WISPA that caused the problem I still remember names. But I think we have kinda patched things up. Ā They have pretty much co-opted the whole AnimalFarm idea with my blessings and I get to go to the show once a year and see yāall. As much as I would love to do an old fashioned AnimalFarm, I am too old and lazy to put on the show. Ā From: Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer" listservs. Ā Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the time, and his list was moved over. Ā I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list, as I was a vendor at the time for WISPA. Ā That's when sh!t hit the fan, some other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola list wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. Ā I notified Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped from under me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was going to be taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born. Ā A...the memories :) Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup wrote: Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately, the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a short time on the WISPA list serv? I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great. On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got hereā¦. The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. Ā Canāt recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the organization. Ā One day Michael was mad about something and posted the infamous āI quitā email - and that was pretty much the end of Part 15 and the list. Ā I actually think that was during a Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that. Ā Might have even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic anyway. There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Ā Yes - itās Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money for the cost of hosting it. This list has itās advantages. Ā Itās membership leans toward a group of people who have known each other for a very long time. Ā You probably shouldnāt say bad things about WBMfg products (makes Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair game. Ā I like it since itās a place I can say things I canāt really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I canāt say without blowback to WISPA). Mark On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too... -Original Message----- From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. You do realize that this list is my list, right? So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? Ā That will prevent it from ever happening again. -Original Message----- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. Jared
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
Awesome!!! Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2018 5:30 PM, wrote: > Got a guest room waiting for you. > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:21 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > Maybe this summer I might drive up to bother Chuck and Jennywe are > thinking of hiking near 4 corners area. Depends on Windy City schedule and > SCADA projects...I think I can bribe him with choice El Paso eats to > let me tour his chop shop. > > Jaime Solorza > > On Feb 13, 2018 5:00 PM, "Robert Andrews" wrote: > >> Can I show up in Utah sometime anyways... I am dying to see the new LED >> cavern lights... :) >> >> On 02/13/2018 02:48 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >> >>> Yep, dead of night with greasepaint on my face a new list was >>> born... again... >>> I can name names over at WISPA that caused the problem I still >>> remember names. >>> But I think we have kinda patched things up. >>> They have pretty much co-opted the whole AnimalFarm idea with my >>> blessings and I get to go to the show once a year and see yāall. >>> As much as I would love to do an old fashioned AnimalFarm, I am too old >>> and lazy to put on the show. >>> *From:* Chuck Hogg >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:38 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>> Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer" >>> listservs. Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the >>> time, and his list was moved over. I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list, >>> as I was a vendor at the time for WISPA. That's when sh!t hit the fan, >>> some other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola >>> list wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I >>> notified Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped >>> from under me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was >>> going to be taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down >>> the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born. A...the >>> memories :) >>> Regards, >>> Chuck >>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the >>> motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list >>> server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of >>> town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it >>> back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately, >>> the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a >>> short time on the WISPA list serv? >>> >>> I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great. >>> >>> On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: >>> >>> You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got >>> hereā¦. >>> >>> The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to >>> WISPA. Canāt recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the >>> organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted >>> the infamous āI quitā email - and that was pretty much the end >>> of Part 15 and the list. I actually think that was during a >>> Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. >>> >>> Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was >>> called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that. Might have >>> even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic >>> anyway. >>> >>> There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Yes - >>> itās Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money >>> for the cost of hosting it. >>> >>> This list has itās advantages. Itās membership leans toward a >>> group of people who have known each other for a very long >>> time. You probably shouldnāt say bad things about WBMfg >>> products (makes Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair >>> game. I like it since itās a place I can say things I canāt >>> really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I canāt say without >>> blowback to WISPA). >>&g
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
Got a guest room waiting for you. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:21 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Maybe this summer I might drive up to bother Chuck and Jennywe are thinking of hiking near 4 corners area. Depends on Windy City schedule and SCADA projects...I think I can bribe him with choice El Paso eats to let me tour his chop shop. Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2018 5:00 PM, "Robert Andrews" wrote: Can I show up in Utah sometime anyways... I am dying to see the new LED cavern lights... :) On 02/13/2018 02:48 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Yep, dead of night with greasepaint on my face a new list was born... again... I can name names over at WISPA that caused the problem I still remember names. But I think we have kinda patched things up. They have pretty much co-opted the whole AnimalFarm idea with my blessings and I get to go to the show once a year and see yāall. As much as I would love to do an old fashioned AnimalFarm, I am too old and lazy to put on the show. *From:* Chuck Hogg *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:38 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer" listservs. Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the time, and his list was moved over. I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list, as I was a vendor at the time for WISPA. That's when sh!t hit the fan, some other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola list wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I notified Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped from under me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was going to be taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born. A...the memories :) Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup wrote: Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately, the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a short time on the WISPA list serv? I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great. On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got hereā¦. The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. Canāt recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted the infamous āI quitā email - and that was pretty much the end of Part 15 and the list. I actually think that was during a Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that. Might have even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic anyway. There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Yes - itās Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money for the cost of hosting it. This list has itās advantages. Itās membership leans toward a group of people who have known each other for a very long time. You probably shouldnāt say bad things about WBMfg products (makes Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair game. I like it since itās a place I can say things I canāt really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I canāt say without blowback to WISPA). Mark On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too... -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. You do realize that this list is my list, right? So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will pre
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
Donāt ask, donāt tell... From: Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck " Yes - itās Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money for the cost of hosting it." Hows that stand right now BTW? are the coffers still overflowing? On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got hereā¦. The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. Canāt recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted the infamous āI quitā email - and that was pretty much the end of Part 15 and the list. I actually think that was during a Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that. Might have even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic anyway. There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Yes - itās Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money for the cost of hosting it. This list has itās advantages. Itās membership leans toward a group of people who have known each other for a very long time. You probably shouldnāt say bad things about WBMfg products (makes Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair game. I like it since itās a place I can say things I canāt really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I canāt say without blowback to WISPA). Mark > On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too... > > -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. > > You do realize that this list is my list, right? > > So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? > > I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. > But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. > > Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever > happening again. > > -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? > > I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any > business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely > poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. > > Jared >
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Maybe this summer I might drive up to bother Chuck and Jennywe are thinking of hiking near 4 corners area. Depends on Windy City schedule and SCADA projects...I think I can bribe him with choice El Paso eats to let me tour his chop shop. Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2018 5:00 PM, "Robert Andrews" wrote: > Can I show up in Utah sometime anyways... I am dying to see the new LED > cavern lights... :) > > On 02/13/2018 02:48 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > >> Yep, dead of night with greasepaint on my face a new list was >> born... again... >> I can name names over at WISPA that caused the problem I still >> remember names. >> But I think we have kinda patched things up. >> They have pretty much co-opted the whole AnimalFarm idea with my >> blessings and I get to go to the show once a year and see yāall. >> As much as I would love to do an old fashioned AnimalFarm, I am too old >> and lazy to put on the show. >> *From:* Chuck Hogg >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:38 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer" >> listservs. Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the >> time, and his list was moved over. I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list, >> as I was a vendor at the time for WISPA. That's when sh!t hit the fan, >> some other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola >> list wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I >> notified Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped >> from under me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was >> going to be taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down >> the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born. A...the >> memories :) >> Regards, >> Chuck >> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup >> wrote: >> >> Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the >> motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list >> server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of >> town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it >> back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately, >> the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a >> short time on the WISPA list serv? >> >> I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great. >> >> On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: >> >> You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got >> hereā¦. >> >> The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. >> Canāt recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the >> organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted >> the infamous āI quitā email - and that was pretty much the end >> of Part 15 and the list. I actually think that was during a >> Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. >> >> Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was >> called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that. Might have >> even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic >> anyway. >> >> There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Yes - >> itās Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money >> for the cost of hosting it. >> >> This list has itās advantages. Itās membership leans toward a >> group of people who have known each other for a very long >> time. You probably shouldnāt say bad things about WBMfg >> products (makes Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair >> game. I like it since itās a place I can say things I canāt >> really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I canāt say without >> blowback to WISPA). >> >> Mark >> >> On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >> >> Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too... >> >> -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com >> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> >> I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list >> about once a year. >> >> You do realiz
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http://img.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/emotional-support-bar-cart.jpg - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Steve Jones" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:52:08 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any business with him , or even indicate I would like to. TF you just say?!!? I remember that KPP thing and chucks analogy, I though somebody had actually tried to bed down his daughter. I guess I have notice more mccown tech emails, come to think of it I never did sign up for them either. Im pretty sure this has cause pain and suffering, Im going to need an emotional support peacock On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 4:59 PM, < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: Then there was the time Doug Clark got mad at me and got Travis to start another list. I think it had something to do with KPP crashing AnimalFarm. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck actually i distinctly remember a "MOTORLA" and "MOTOROLA II" list... LOL - Original Message - From: Chuck Hogg To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer" listservs. Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the time, and his list was moved over. I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list, as I was a vendor at the time for WISPA. That's when sh!t hit the fan, some other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola list wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I notified Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped from under me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was going to be taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born. A...the memories :) Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup < george.sko...@cbcast.com > wrote: Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately, the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a short time on the WISPA list serv? I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great. On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got hereā¦. The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. Canāt recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted the infamous āI quitā email - and that was pretty much the end of Part 15 and the list. I actually think that was during a Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that. Might have even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic anyway. There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Yes - itās Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money for the cost of hosting it. This list has itās advantages. Itās membership leans toward a group of people who have known each other for a very long time. You probably shouldnāt say bad things about WBMfg products (makes Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair game. I like it since itās a place I can say things I canāt really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I canāt say without blowback to WISPA). Mark On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too... -Original Message----- From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. You do realize that this list is my list, right? So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever happening again. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? I sure as hell haven't signed up for
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Can I show up in Utah sometime anyways... I am dying to see the new LED cavern lights... :) On 02/13/2018 02:48 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Yep, dead of night with greasepaint on my face a new list was born... again... I can name names over at WISPA that caused the problem I still remember names. But I think we have kinda patched things up. They have pretty much co-opted the whole AnimalFarm idea with my blessings and I get to go to the show once a year and see yāall. As much as I would love to do an old fashioned AnimalFarm, I am too old and lazy to put on the show. *From:* Chuck Hogg *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:38 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer" listservs. Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the time, and his list was moved over. I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list, as I was a vendor at the time for WISPA. That's when sh!t hit the fan, some other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola list wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I notified Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped from under me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was going to be taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born. A...the memories :) Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup wrote: Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately, the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a short time on the WISPA list serv? I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great. On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got hereā¦. The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. Canāt recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted the infamous āI quitā email - and that was pretty much the end of Part 15 and the list. I actually think that was during a Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that. Might have even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic anyway. There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Yes - itās Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money for the cost of hosting it. This list has itās advantages. Itās membership leans toward a group of people who have known each other for a very long time. You probably shouldnāt say bad things about WBMfg products (makes Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair game. I like it since itās a place I can say things I canāt really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I canāt say without blowback to WISPA). Mark On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too... -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. You do realize that this list is my list, right? So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever happening again. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. Jared
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" Yes - itās Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money for the cost of hosting it." Hows that stand right now BTW? are the coffers still overflowing? On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got hereā¦. > > The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. Canāt > recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the organization. One day > Michael was mad about something and posted the infamous āI quitā email - > and that was pretty much the end of Part 15 and the list. I actually think > that was during a Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. > > Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was called AFMUG at > the time, but it later became that. Might have even been Motorola > specific - not that it was ever on topic anyway. > > There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Yes - itās > Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money for the cost of > hosting it. > > This list has itās advantages. Itās membership leans toward a group of > people who have known each other for a very long time. You probably > shouldnāt say bad things about WBMfg products (makes Chuck get all kranky) > but everybody else if fair game. I like it since itās a place I can say > things I canāt really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I canāt say > without blowback to WISPA). > > Mark > > > On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > > > Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too... > > > > -Original Message----- From: ch...@wbmfg.com > > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM > > To: af@afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > > > I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a > year. > > > > You do realize that this list is my list, right? > > > > So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? > > > > I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. > > But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. > > > > Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever > > happening again. > > > > -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com > > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM > > To: af@afmug.com > > Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > > > I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? > > > > I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any > > business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in > extremely > > poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. > > > > Jared > > > >
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snowflake... From: Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 4:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any business with him, or even indicate I would like to. TF you just say?!!? I remember that KPP thing and chucks analogy, I though somebody had actually tried to bed down his daughter. I guess I have notice more mccown tech emails, come to think of it I never did sign up for them either. Im pretty sure this has cause pain and suffering, Im going to need an emotional support peacock On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 4:59 PM, wrote: Then there was the time Doug Clark got mad at me and got Travis to start another list. I think it had something to do with KPP crashing AnimalFarm. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck actually i distinctly remember a "MOTORLA" and "MOTOROLA II" list... LOL - Original Message - From: Chuck Hogg To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer" listservs. Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the time, and his list was moved over. I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list, as I was a vendor at the time for WISPA. That's when sh!t hit the fan, some other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola list wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I notified Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped from under me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was going to be taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born. A...the memories :) Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup wrote: Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately, the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a short time on the WISPA list serv? I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great. On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got hereā¦. The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. Canāt recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted the infamous āI quitā email - and that was pretty much the end of Part 15 and the list. I actually think that was during a Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that. Might have even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic anyway. There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Yes - itās Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money for the cost of hosting it. This list has itās advantages. Itās membership leans toward a group of people who have known each other for a very long time. You probably shouldnāt say bad things about WBMfg products (makes Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair game. I like it since itās a place I can say things I canāt really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I canāt say without blowback to WISPA). Mark On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too... -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. You do realize that this list is my list, right? So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever happening again. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists
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40-45 Somewhere I still have photos of everyone. From: Gino A. Villarini Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 4:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I remember the first AF! Back in 2007? Attendance was about 20-30 individuals ? From: Af on behalf of Chuck McCown Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" Date: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 at 6:48 PM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 Yep, dead of night with greasepaint on my face a new list was born... again... I can name names over at WISPA that caused the problem I still remember names. But I think we have kinda patched things up. They have pretty much co-opted the whole AnimalFarm idea with my blessings and I get to go to the show once a year and see yāall. As much as I would love to do an old fashioned AnimalFarm, I am too old and lazy to put on the show. From: Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer" listservs. Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the time, and his list was moved over. I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list, as I was a vendor at the time for WISPA. That's when sh!t hit the fan, some other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola list wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I notified Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped from under me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was going to be taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born. A...the memories :) Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup wrote: Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately, the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a short time on the WISPA list serv? I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great. On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got hereā¦. The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. Canāt recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted the infamous āI quitā email - and that was pretty much the end of Part 15 and the list. I actually think that was during a Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that. Might have even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic anyway. There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Yes - itās Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money for the cost of hosting it. This list has itās advantages. Itās membership leans toward a group of people who have known each other for a very long time. You probably shouldnāt say bad things about WBMfg products (makes Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair game. I like it since itās a place I can say things I canāt really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I canāt say without blowback to WISPA). Mark On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too... -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. You do realize that this list is my list, right? So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever happening again. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. Jared
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I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists *nor done any business with him*, or even indicate I would like to. TF you just say?!!? I remember that KPP thing and chucks analogy, I though somebody had actually tried to bed down his daughter. I guess I have notice more mccown tech emails, come to think of it I never did sign up for them either. Im pretty sure this has cause pain and suffering, Im going to need an emotional support peacock On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 4:59 PM, wrote: > Then there was the time Doug Clark got mad at me and got Travis to start > another list. I think it had something to do with KPP crashing > AnimalFarm. > > *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:49 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > > > actually i distinctly remember a "MOTORLA" and "MOTOROLA II" list... LOL > > - Original Message - > *From:* Chuck Hogg > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 4:38 PM > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer" > listservs. Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the > time, and his list was moved over. I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list, as > I was a vendor at the time for WISPA. That's when sh!t hit the fan, some > other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola list > wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I notified > Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped from under > me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was going to be > taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down the > motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born. A...the memories :) > > Regards, > Chuck > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup > wrote: > >> Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the motorola@ >> list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list server went down >> and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of town? I don't remember if >> that was the case) and finally brought it back up. But it was too late and >> AFMUG was born. More accurately, the "Motorola II" list was born, and I >> believe that was hosted for a short time on the WISPA list serv? >> >> I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great. >> >> On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: >> >>> You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got hereā¦. >>> >>> The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. Canāt >>> recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the organization. One day >>> Michael was mad about something and posted the infamous āI quitā email - >>> and that was pretty much the end of Part 15 and the list. I actually think >>> that was during a Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. >>> >>> Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was called AFMUG >>> at the time, but it later became that. Might have even been Motorola >>> specific - not that it was ever on topic anyway. >>> >>> There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Yes - itās >>> Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money for the cost of >>> hosting it. >>> >>> This list has itās advantages. Itās membership leans toward a group of >>> people who have known each other for a very long time. You probably >>> shouldnāt say bad things about WBMfg products (makes Chuck get all kranky) >>> but everybody else if fair game. I like it since itās a place I can say >>> things I canāt really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I canāt say >>> without blowback to WISPA). >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>>> >>>> Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too... >>>> >>>> -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com >>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM >>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>>> >>>> I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a >>>> year. >>>> >>>> You do realize that this list is my list, right? >>>> >>>> So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, >>>> right? >>>> >>>> I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. >>>> But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. >>>> >>>> Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever >>>> happening again. >>>> >>>> -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com >>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM >>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>>> >>>> I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? >>>> >>>> I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any >>>> business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in >>>> extremely >>>> poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. >>>> >>>> Jared >>>> >>>> >> > >
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I remember the first AF! Back in 2007? Attendance was about 20-30 individuals ? From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 at 6:48 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png] Yep, dead of night with greasepaint on my face a new list was born... again... I can name names over at WISPA that caused the problem I still remember names. But I think we have kinda patched things up. They have pretty much co-opted the whole AnimalFarm idea with my blessings and I get to go to the show once a year and see yāall. As much as I would love to do an old fashioned AnimalFarm, I am too old and lazy to put on the show. From: Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer" listservs. Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the time, and his list was moved over. I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list, as I was a vendor at the time for WISPA. That's when sh!t hit the fan, some other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola list wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I notified Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped from under me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was going to be taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born. A...the memories :) Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup wrote: Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately, the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a short time on the WISPA list serv? I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great. On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got hereā¦. The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. Canāt recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted the infamous āI quitā email - and that was pretty much the end of Part 15 and the list. I actually think that was during a Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that. Might have even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic anyway. There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Yes - itās Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money for the cost of hosting it. This list has itās advantages. Itās membership leans toward a group of people who have known each other for a very long time. You probably shouldnāt say bad things about WBMfg products (makes Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair game. I like it since itās a place I can say things I canāt really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I canāt say without blowback to WISPA). Mark On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too... -Original Message----- From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. You do realize that this list is my list, right? So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever happening again. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. Jared
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Or maybe Travis got mad at me and got Doug to start another list... From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Then there was the time Doug Clark got mad at me and got Travis to start another list. I think it had something to do with KPP crashing AnimalFarm. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck actually i distinctly remember a "MOTORLA" and "MOTOROLA II" list... LOL - Original Message - From: Chuck Hogg To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer" listservs. Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the time, and his list was moved over. I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list, as I was a vendor at the time for WISPA. That's when sh!t hit the fan, some other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola list wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I notified Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped from under me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was going to be taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born. A...the memories :) Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup wrote: Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately, the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a short time on the WISPA list serv? I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great. On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got hereā¦. The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. Canāt recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted the infamous āI quitā email - and that was pretty much the end of Part 15 and the list. I actually think that was during a Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that. Might have even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic anyway. There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Yes - itās Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money for the cost of hosting it. This list has itās advantages. Itās membership leans toward a group of people who have known each other for a very long time. You probably shouldnāt say bad things about WBMfg products (makes Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair game. I like it since itās a place I can say things I canāt really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I canāt say without blowback to WISPA). Mark On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too... -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. You do realize that this list is my list, right? So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever happening again. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. Jared
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Then there was the time Doug Clark got mad at me and got Travis to start another list. I think it had something to do with KPP crashing AnimalFarm. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck actually i distinctly remember a "MOTORLA" and "MOTOROLA II" list... LOL - Original Message - From: Chuck Hogg To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer" listservs. Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the time, and his list was moved over. I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list, as I was a vendor at the time for WISPA. That's when sh!t hit the fan, some other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola list wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I notified Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped from under me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was going to be taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born. A...the memories :) Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup wrote: Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately, the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a short time on the WISPA list serv? I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great. On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got hereā¦. The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. Canāt recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted the infamous āI quitā email - and that was pretty much the end of Part 15 and the list. I actually think that was during a Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that. Might have even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic anyway. There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Yes - itās Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money for the cost of hosting it. This list has itās advantages. Itās membership leans toward a group of people who have known each other for a very long time. You probably shouldnāt say bad things about WBMfg products (makes Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair game. I like it since itās a place I can say things I canāt really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I canāt say without blowback to WISPA). Mark On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too... -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. You do realize that this list is my list, right? So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever happening again. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. Jared
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actually i distinctly remember a "MOTORLA" and "MOTOROLA II" list... LOL - Original Message - From: Chuck Hogg To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer" listservs. Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the time, and his list was moved over. I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list, as I was a vendor at the time for WISPA. That's when sh!t hit the fan, some other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola list wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I notified Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped from under me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was going to be taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born. A...the memories :) Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup wrote: Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately, the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a short time on the WISPA list serv? I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great. On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got hereā¦. The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. Canāt recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted the infamous āI quitā email - and that was pretty much the end of Part 15 and the list. I actually think that was during a Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that. Might have even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic anyway. There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Yes - itās Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money for the cost of hosting it. This list has itās advantages. Itās membership leans toward a group of people who have known each other for a very long time. You probably shouldnāt say bad things about WBMfg products (makes Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair game. I like it since itās a place I can say things I canāt really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I canāt say without blowback to WISPA). Mark On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too... -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. You do realize that this list is my list, right? So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever happening again. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. Jared
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Yep, dead of night with greasepaint on my face a new list was born... again... I can name names over at WISPA that caused the problem I still remember names. But I think we have kinda patched things up. They have pretty much co-opted the whole AnimalFarm idea with my blessings and I get to go to the show once a year and see yāall. As much as I would love to do an old fashioned AnimalFarm, I am too old and lazy to put on the show. From: Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer" listservs. Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the time, and his list was moved over. I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list, as I was a vendor at the time for WISPA. That's when sh!t hit the fan, some other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola list wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I notified Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped from under me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was going to be taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born. A...the memories :) Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup wrote: Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately, the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a short time on the WISPA list serv? I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great. On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got hereā¦. The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. Canāt recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted the infamous āI quitā email - and that was pretty much the end of Part 15 and the list. I actually think that was during a Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that. Might have even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic anyway. There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Yes - itās Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money for the cost of hosting it. This list has itās advantages. Itās membership leans toward a group of people who have known each other for a very long time. You probably shouldnāt say bad things about WBMfg products (makes Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair game. I like it since itās a place I can say things I canāt really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I canāt say without blowback to WISPA). Mark On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too... -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. You do realize that this list is my list, right? So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever happening again. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. Jared
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer" listservs. Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the time, and his list was moved over. I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list, as I was a vendor at the time for WISPA. That's when sh!t hit the fan, some other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola list wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I notified Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped from under me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was going to be taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born. A...the memories :) Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup wrote: > Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the motorola@ > list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list server went down > and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of town? I don't remember if > that was the case) and finally brought it back up. But it was too late and > AFMUG was born. More accurately, the "Motorola II" list was born, and I > believe that was hosted for a short time on the WISPA list serv? > > I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great. > > On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > >> You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got hereā¦. >> >> The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. Canāt >> recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the organization. One day >> Michael was mad about something and posted the infamous āI quitā email - >> and that was pretty much the end of Part 15 and the list. I actually think >> that was during a Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. >> >> Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was called AFMUG >> at the time, but it later became that. Might have even been Motorola >> specific - not that it was ever on topic anyway. >> >> There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Yes - itās >> Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money for the cost of >> hosting it. >> >> This list has itās advantages. Itās membership leans toward a group of >> people who have known each other for a very long time. You probably >> shouldnāt say bad things about WBMfg products (makes Chuck get all kranky) >> but everybody else if fair game. I like it since itās a place I can say >> things I canāt really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I canāt say >> without blowback to WISPA). >> >> Mark >> >> On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>> >>> Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too... >>> >>> -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>> >>> I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a >>> year. >>> >>> You do realize that this list is my list, right? >>> >>> So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? >>> >>> I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. >>> But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. >>> >>> Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever >>> happening again. >>> >>> -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>> >>> I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? >>> >>> I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any >>> business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in >>> extremely >>> poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. >>> >>> Jared >>> >>> >
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
Prolly some extortion material in there somewhere... :-) Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > On Feb 13, 2018, at 5:29 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies > wrote: > > Mark, > > That brings back memories. July 7, 2008. I still have over 100,000 > archived messages from that list. > > -- > Best regards, > Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com > > Myakka Technologies, Inc. > www.MyakkaTech.com > > -- > > Tuesday, February 13, 2018, 5:06:02 PM, you wrote: > > MR> You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got hereā¦. > > MR> The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. > MR> Canāt recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the > MR> organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted > MR> the infamous āI quitā email - and that was pretty much the end of > MR> Part 15 and the list. I actually think that was during a Animal > MR> Farm session if I recall correctly. > > MR> Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was called > MR> AFMUG at the time, but it later became that. Might have even > MR> been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic anyway. > > MR> There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Yes - > MR> itās Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money for the > cost of hosting it. > > MR> This list has itās advantages. Itās membership leans toward a > MR> group of people who have known each other for a very long time. > MR> You probably shouldnāt say bad things about WBMfg products (makes > MR> Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair game. I like it > MR> since itās a place I can say things I canāt really say with a > MR> WISPA hat on (or at least I canāt say without blowback to WISPA). > > MR> Mark > >>> On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>> >>> Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too... >>> >>> -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>> >>> I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. >>> >>> You do realize that this list is my list, right? >>> >>> So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? >>> >>> I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. >>> But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. >>> >>> Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever >>> happening again. >>> >>> -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >>> >>> I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? >>> >>> I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any >>> business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely >>> poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. >>> >>> Jared >>> >
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
Mark, That brings back memories. July 7, 2008. I still have over 100,000 archived messages from that list. -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com -- Tuesday, February 13, 2018, 5:06:02 PM, you wrote: MR> You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got hereā¦. MR> The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. MR> Canāt recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the MR> organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted MR> the infamous āI quitā email - and that was pretty much the end of MR> Part 15 and the list. I actually think that was during a Animal MR> Farm session if I recall correctly. MR> Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was called MR> AFMUG at the time, but it later became that. Might have even MR> been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic anyway. MR> There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Yes - MR> itās Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money for the cost of hosting it. MR> This list has itās advantages. Itās membership leans toward a MR> group of people who have known each other for a very long time. MR> You probably shouldnāt say bad things about WBMfg products (makes MR> Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair game. I like it MR> since itās a place I can say things I canāt really say with a MR> WISPA hat on (or at least I canāt say without blowback to WISPA). MR> Mark >> On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >> >> Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too... >> >> -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com >> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> >> I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. >> >> You do realize that this list is my list, right? >> >> So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? >> >> I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. >> But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. >> >> Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever >> happening again. >> >> -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com >> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> >> I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? >> >> I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any >> business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely >> poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. >> >> Jared >>
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
This list would be dead without those O-beer-thirty bits oā poetry. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck with special commentator "That one guy steve..." - Original Message - From: TJ Trout To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I enjoy the email check sends, it's always entertaining. Sounds like you should just unsubscribe and head off to the UBNT forums! On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:48 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: Why, thank you Jay! Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com On Feb 13, 2018, at 4:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: i must get 20+ messages a month from various vendors. mostly part of being a WISPA member. i glance at most...but most often just use shift-delete a whole lot. I can mention several things I have really appreciated getting from "spam" * Baicells Black Friday Deal * Jeff Broadwick's newsletter posts * Chuck Mccown's product announcements I guess there are other product announcements I prefer too. I shop at Baltic a lot, i usually read their stuff - Original Message - From: fiber...@mail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 > From: ch...@wbmfg.com > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > You do realize that this list is my list, right? No, I did not know that. It doesn't say so when you sign up for the list. > So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? Participating on the list isn't quite the same as inboxing me directly with a canned message. > I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. Your list, your rules. I still don't think it's cool to send out unsolicited commercial messages without an opt-in. Furthermore industry best practices include using a double opt-in. Mailchimp support double opt-in: https://kb.mailchimp.com/lists/signup-forms/about-double-opt-in In summary: I did not know that by joining the Af list I would, unbeknownst to me and surreptitiously, be signed up for another direct email list. Jared
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.../sarcasm On 2/13/2018 4:21 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: with special commentator "That one guy steve..." - Original Message - *From:* TJ Trout <mailto:t...@voltbb.com> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 4:06 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I enjoy the email check sends, it's always entertaining. Sounds like you should just unsubscribe and head off to the UBNT forums! On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:48 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists mailto:jeffl...@att.net>> wrote: Why, thank you Jay! Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com <mailto:jbroadw...@cticonnect.com> On Feb 13, 2018, at 4:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote: i must get 20+ messages a month from various vendors.Ā mostly part of being a WISPA member. i glance at most...but most often just use shift-delete a whole lot. I can mention several things I have really appreciated getting from "spam" * Baicells Black Friday Deal * Jeff Broadwick's newsletter posts *Ā Chuck Mccown's product announcements I guess there are other product announcements I prefer too. I shop at Baltic a lot, i usually read their stuff - Original Message - *From:* fiber...@mail.com <mailto:fiber...@mail.com> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 2:25 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 > From: ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > You do realize that this list is my list, right? Ā No, I did not know that. It doesn't say so when you sign up for the list. > So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? Ā Participating on the list isn't quite the same as inboxing me directly with a canned message. > I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. Ā Your list, your rules. I still don't think it's cool to send out unsolicited commercial messages without an opt-in. Furthermore industry best practices include using a double opt-in. Mailchimp support double opt-in: https://kb.mailchimp.com/lists/signup-forms/about-double-opt-in <https://kb.mailchimp.com/lists/signup-forms/about-double-opt-in> Ā In summary: I did not know that by joining the Af list I would, unbeknownst to me and surreptitiously, be signed up for another direct email list. Jared
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately, the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a short time on the WISPA list serv? I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great. On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got hereā¦. The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. Canāt recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted the infamous āI quitā email - and that was pretty much the end of Part 15 and the list. I actually think that was during a Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that. Might have even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic anyway. There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Yes - itās Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money for the cost of hosting it. This list has itās advantages. Itās membership leans toward a group of people who have known each other for a very long time. You probably shouldnāt say bad things about WBMfg products (makes Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair game. I like it since itās a place I can say things I canāt really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I canāt say without blowback to WISPA). Mark On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too... -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. You do realize that this list is my list, right? So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever happening again. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. Jared
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
with special commentator "That one guy steve..." - Original Message - From: TJ Trout To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I enjoy the email check sends, it's always entertaining. Sounds like you should just unsubscribe and head off to the UBNT forums! On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:48 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: Why, thank you Jay! Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com On Feb 13, 2018, at 4:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: i must get 20+ messages a month from various vendors. mostly part of being a WISPA member. i glance at most...but most often just use shift-delete a whole lot. I can mention several things I have really appreciated getting from "spam" * Baicells Black Friday Deal * Jeff Broadwick's newsletter posts * Chuck Mccown's product announcements I guess there are other product announcements I prefer too. I shop at Baltic a lot, i usually read their stuff - Original Message - From: fiber...@mail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 > From: ch...@wbmfg.com > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > You do realize that this list is my list, right? No, I did not know that. It doesn't say so when you sign up for the list. > So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? Participating on the list isn't quite the same as inboxing me directly with a canned message. > I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. Your list, your rules. I still don't think it's cool to send out unsolicited commercial messages without an opt-in. Furthermore industry best practices include using a double opt-in. Mailchimp support double opt-in: https://kb.mailchimp.com/lists/signup-forms/about-double-opt-in In summary: I did not know that by joining the Af list I would, unbeknownst to me and surreptitiously, be signed up for another direct email list. Jared
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
:) - Original Message - From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Why, thank you Jay! Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com On Feb 13, 2018, at 4:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: i must get 20+ messages a month from various vendors. mostly part of being a WISPA member. i glance at most...but most often just use shift-delete a whole lot. I can mention several things I have really appreciated getting from "spam" * Baicells Black Friday Deal * Jeff Broadwick's newsletter posts * Chuck Mccown's product announcements I guess there are other product announcements I prefer too. I shop at Baltic a lot, i usually read their stuff - Original Message - From: fiber...@mail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 > From: ch...@wbmfg.com > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > You do realize that this list is my list, right? No, I did not know that. It doesn't say so when you sign up for the list. > So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? Participating on the list isn't quite the same as inboxing me directly with a canned message. > I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. Your list, your rules. I still don't think it's cool to send out unsolicited commercial messages without an opt-in. Furthermore industry best practices include using a double opt-in. Mailchimp support double opt-in: https://kb.mailchimp.com/lists/signup-forms/about-double-opt-in In summary: I did not know that by joining the Af list I would, unbeknownst to me and surreptitiously, be signed up for another direct email list. Jared
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
Mike āBullitā Anderson. Heās out in CA somewhere now. Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > On Feb 13, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > > You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got hereā¦. > > The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. Canāt recall > the last name - Michael somebody ran the organization. One day Michael was > mad about something and posted the infamous āI quitā email - and that was > pretty much the end of Part 15 and the list. I actually think that was > during a Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. > > Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was called AFMUG at > the time, but it later became that. Might have even been Motorola specific > - not that it was ever on topic anyway. > > There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Yes - itās Chuckās > list though occasionally the members donate money for the cost of hosting it. > > This list has itās advantages. Itās membership leans toward a group of > people who have known each other for a very long time. You probably > shouldnāt say bad things about WBMfg products (makes Chuck get all kranky) > but everybody else if fair game. I like it since itās a place I can say > things I canāt really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I canāt say > without blowback to WISPA). > > Mark > >> On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >> >> Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too... >> >> -Original Message----- From: ch...@wbmfg.com >> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> >> I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. >> >> You do realize that this list is my list, right? >> >> So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? >> >> I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. >> But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. >> >> Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever >> happening again. >> >> -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com >> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> >> I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? >> >> I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any >> business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely >> poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. >> >> Jared >> >
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
We have to recognize your name to be able to complain... Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. On Feb 13, 2018, at 3:25 PM, fiber...@mail.com wrote: >> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 >> From: ch...@wbmfg.com >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> >> You do realize that this list is my list, right? > No, I did not know that. It doesn't say so when you sign up for the list. > >> So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? > Participating on the list isn't quite the same as inboxing me directly with > a canned message. > >> I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. > Your list, your rules. I still don't think it's cool to send out unsolicited > commercial messages without an opt-in. Furthermore industry best practices > include using a double opt-in. Mailchimp support double opt-in: > https://kb.mailchimp.com/lists/signup-forms/about-double-opt-in > > In summary: I did not know that by joining the Af list I would, unbeknownst > to me and surreptitiously, be signed up for another direct email list. > > Jared
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
Michael Anderson AKA Bullit (or Bullet, I don't remember). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mark Radabaugh" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 4:06:00 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got hereā¦. The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. Canāt recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted the infamous āI quitā email - and that was pretty much the end of Part 15 and the list. I actually think that was during a Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that. Might have even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic anyway. There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Yes - itās Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money for the cost of hosting it. This list has itās advantages. Itās membership leans toward a group of people who have known each other for a very long time. You probably shouldnāt say bad things about WBMfg products (makes Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair game. I like it since itās a place I can say things I canāt really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I canāt say without blowback to WISPA). Mark > On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too... > > -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. > > You do realize that this list is my list, right? > > So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? > > I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. > But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. > > Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever > happening again. > > -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? > > I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any > business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely > poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. > > Jared >
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
There's probably more important things to cry about. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: fiber...@mail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 2:25:51 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 > From: ch...@wbmfg.com > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > You do realize that this list is my list, right? No, I did not know that. It doesn't say so when you sign up for the list. > So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? Participating on the list isn't quite the same as inboxing me directly with a canned message. > I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. Your list, your rules. I still don't think it's cool to send out unsolicited commercial messages without an opt-in. Furthermore industry best practices include using a double opt-in. Mailchimp support double opt-in: https://kb.mailchimp.com/lists/signup-forms/about-double-opt-in In summary: I did not know that by joining the Af list I would, unbeknownst to me and surreptitiously, be signed up for another direct email list. Jared
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
I enjoy the email check sends, it's always entertaining. Sounds like you should just unsubscribe and head off to the UBNT forums! On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:48 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: > Why, thank you Jay! > > Jeff Broadwick > CTIconnect > 312-205-2519 <(312)%20205-2519> Office > 574-220-7826 <(574)%20220-7826> Cell > jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > > On Feb 13, 2018, at 4:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller > wrote: > > > i must get 20+ messages a month from various vendors. mostly part of > being a WISPA member. > i glance at most...but most often just use shift-delete a whole lot. > > I can mention several things I have really appreciated getting from "spam" > > * Baicells Black Friday Deal > * Jeff Broadwick's newsletter posts > * Chuck Mccown's product announcements > > I guess there are other product announcements I prefer too. > > I shop at Baltic a lot, i usually read their stuff > > - Original Message - > *From:* fiber...@mail.com > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 2:25 PM > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 > > From: ch...@wbmfg.com > > To: af@afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > > > You do realize that this list is my list, right? > No, I did not know that. It doesn't say so when you sign up for the > list. > > > So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? > Participating on the list isn't quite the same as inboxing me directly > with a canned message. > > > I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. > Your list, your rules. I still don't think it's cool to send out > unsolicited commercial messages without an opt-in. Furthermore industry > best practices include using a double opt-in. Mailchimp support double > opt-in: https://kb.mailchimp.com/lists/signup-forms/about-double-opt-in > > In summary: I did not know that by joining the Af list I would, > unbeknownst to me and surreptitiously, be signed up for another direct > email list. > > Jared > >
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got hereā¦. The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. Canāt recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted the infamous āI quitā email - and that was pretty much the end of Part 15 and the list. I actually think that was during a Animal Farm session if I recall correctly. Chuck took over the list after that - I donāt think it was called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that. Might have even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic anyway. There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on. Yes - itās Chuckās list though occasionally the members donate money for the cost of hosting it. This list has itās advantages. Itās membership leans toward a group of people who have known each other for a very long time. You probably shouldnāt say bad things about WBMfg products (makes Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair game. I like it since itās a place I can say things I canāt really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I canāt say without blowback to WISPA). Mark > On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too... > > -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. > > You do realize that this list is my list, right? > > So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? > > I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. > But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. > > Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever > happening again. > > -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? > > I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any > business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely > poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. > > Jared >
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
Why, thank you Jay! Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > On Feb 13, 2018, at 4:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller > wrote: > > > i must get 20+ messages a month from various vendors. mostly part of being a > WISPA member. > i glance at most...but most often just use shift-delete a whole lot. > > I can mention several things I have really appreciated getting from "spam" > > * Baicells Black Friday Deal > * Jeff Broadwick's newsletter posts > * Chuck Mccown's product announcements > > I guess there are other product announcements I prefer too. > > I shop at Baltic a lot, i usually read their stuff > - Original Message - > From: fiber...@mail.com > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 2:25 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 > > From: ch...@wbmfg.com > > To: af@afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > > > You do realize that this list is my list, right? > No, I did not know that. It doesn't say so when you sign up for the list. > > > So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? > Participating on the list isn't quite the same as inboxing me directly with > a canned message. > > > I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. > Your list, your rules. I still don't think it's cool to send out > unsolicited commercial messages without an opt-in. Furthermore industry best > practices include using a double opt-in. Mailchimp support double opt-in: > https://kb.mailchimp.com/lists/signup-forms/about-double-opt-in > > In summary: I did not know that by joining the Af list I would, unbeknownst > to me and surreptitiously, be signed up for another direct email list. > > Jared
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
That's hitting the nail on the head. I don't want penis enlargement spam, but I definitely want to hear about surge protectors and power systems and network equipment. Spam me Chuck. Spam me like one of your French girls. -- Original Message -- From: "Mathew Howard" To: "af" Sent: 2/13/2018 3:57:19 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Ha... I never even realized that those weren't going to the list anymore... for some reason gmail puts it in my afmug folder. The only thing that's slightly annoying is that I get them more than once because my other email address is on Chuck's list too, but I don't care enough to bother unsubscribing... I actually like getting spam about stuff that I'm interested in. On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:53 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Doing it this way, someone can simply unsubscribe from the spam but not the list. And Mail Chimp will never ever ever ever let me send that person anything again for all of eternity. They rate the quality of lists for how many bounces, unsubscribes etc. I have a pretty good rating with them. The alternative is going back to the Friday spam and swap fest. BTW, my distributors have spam rights too. But only on Friday morning. I prefer the list to be free from spam like it is now compared to before. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I hope that was someone being humorous... Otherwise... #OFFWITHTHEIRHEAD ... Come on, Chuck's products are about the most worthy of any vendor I know. And POE fuses... It's a fricken godsend!!! BTW I need to by a bunch and wish I could buy the little racks with them.. Oh well, amazon... Robert On 02/13/2018 11:05 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. You do realize that this list is my list, right? So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever happening again. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. Jared
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
i must get 20+ messages a month from various vendors. mostly part of being a WISPA member. i glance at most...but most often just use shift-delete a whole lot. I can mention several things I have really appreciated getting from "spam" * Baicells Black Friday Deal * Jeff Broadwick's newsletter posts * Chuck Mccown's product announcements I guess there are other product announcements I prefer too. I shop at Baltic a lot, i usually read their stuff - Original Message - From: fiber...@mail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 > From: ch...@wbmfg.com > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > You do realize that this list is my list, right? No, I did not know that. It doesn't say so when you sign up for the list. > So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? Participating on the list isn't quite the same as inboxing me directly with a canned message. > I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. Your list, your rules. I still don't think it's cool to send out unsolicited commercial messages without an opt-in. Furthermore industry best practices include using a double opt-in. Mailchimp support double opt-in: https://kb.mailchimp.com/lists/signup-forms/about-double-opt-in In summary: I did not know that by joining the Af list I would, unbeknownst to me and surreptitiously, be signed up for another direct email list. Jared
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
Ha... I never even realized that those weren't going to the list anymore... for some reason gmail puts it in my afmug folder. The only thing that's slightly annoying is that I get them more than once because my other email address is on Chuck's list too, but I don't care enough to bother unsubscribing... I actually like getting spam about stuff that I'm interested in. On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:53 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Doing it this way, someone can simply unsubscribe from the spam but not > the list. And Mail Chimp will never ever ever ever let me send that person > anything again for all of eternity. They rate the quality of lists for how > many bounces, unsubscribes etc. I have a pretty good rating with them. > > The alternative is going back to the Friday spam and swap fest. > > BTW, my distributors have spam rights too. But only on Friday morning. > > I prefer the list to be free from spam like it is now compared to before. > > -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:14 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > > I hope that was someone being humorous... Otherwise... > #OFFWITHTHEIRHEAD ... Come on, Chuck's products are about the most > worthy of any vendor I know. And POE fuses... It's a fricken godsend!!! > > BTW I need to by a bunch and wish I could buy the little racks with > them.. Oh well, amazon... > > > Robert > > On 02/13/2018 11:05 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > >> I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. >> >> You do realize that this list is my list, right? >> >> So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? >> >> I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. >> But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. >> >> Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever >> happening again. >> >> -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com >> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck >> >> I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? >> >> I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any >> business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely >> poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. >> >> Jared >> > >
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 > From: ch...@wbmfg.com > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > You do realize that this list is my list, right? No, I did not know that. It doesn't say so when you sign up for the list. > So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? Participating on the list isn't quite the same as inboxing me directly with a canned message. > I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. Your list, your rules. I still don't think it's cool to send out unsolicited commercial messages without an opt-in. Furthermore industry best practices include using a double opt-in. Mailchimp support double opt-in: https://kb.mailchimp.com/lists/signup-forms/about-double-opt-in In summary: I did not know that by joining the Af list I would, unbeknownst to me and surreptitiously, be signed up for another direct email list. Jared
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
Make it a play..call it SpamAllot Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2018 12:59 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Hey, no harm, no foul. I presume you just didn't know. > > -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck > > I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? > > I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any > business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely > poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. > > Jared >
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
Hey, no harm, no foul. I presume you just didn't know. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. Jared
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
Doing it this way, someone can simply unsubscribe from the spam but not the list. And Mail Chimp will never ever ever ever let me send that person anything again for all of eternity. They rate the quality of lists for how many bounces, unsubscribes etc. I have a pretty good rating with them. The alternative is going back to the Friday spam and swap fest. BTW, my distributors have spam rights too. But only on Friday morning. I prefer the list to be free from spam like it is now compared to before. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I hope that was someone being humorous... Otherwise... #OFFWITHTHEIRHEAD ... Come on, Chuck's products are about the most worthy of any vendor I know. And POE fuses... It's a fricken godsend!!! BTW I need to by a bunch and wish I could buy the little racks with them.. Oh well, amazon... Robert On 02/13/2018 11:05 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. You do realize that this list is my list, right? So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever happening again. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. Jared
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
I hope that was someone being humorous... Otherwise... #OFFWITHTHEIRHEAD ... Come on, Chuck's products are about the most worthy of any vendor I know. And POE fuses... It's a fricken godsend!!! BTW I need to by a bunch and wish I could buy the little racks with them.. Oh well, amazon... Robert On 02/13/2018 11:05 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. You do realize that this list is my list, right? So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever happening again. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. Jared
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too... -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. You do realize that this list is my list, right? So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever happening again. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. Jared
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list about once a year. You do realize that this list is my list, right? So essentially every time I make a posting here I am spamming you, right? I used to do it every Friday right here on this list. But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp. Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp? That will prevent it from ever happening again. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. Jared
Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
This is his list. I guess you could opt out if you don't want to receive email from him. On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:58 PM, wrote: > I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? > > I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any > business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely > poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. > > Jared >
[AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that? I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists nor done any business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find it in extremely poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets. Jared