Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] TOLEDO from Terceira
Tenho João dos Santos Toledo married (third time)).(23-05-1713) with Maria de Jesus (b. Quatro Ribeiras) filha de Francisco Machado Ferreira e de Maria Godinho. Son : Antonio dos Santos (b. 22-01-1735, Quatro Ribeiras) married with Maria da Encarnação filha de Manoel Alveres Ourique e de Margarida do Rosario Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Segunda-feira, 14 de Julho de 2014 22:55, Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net escreveu: They were all from Terceira. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Eliseu Pacheco da Silva To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 8:24 AM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] TOLEDO from Terceira The Toledo you have are related somehow to Graciosa Island or not?. Is there any Toledo immigrating to Brasil? Do you know if they are mentioned in the Book Genealogias da Terceira? Thank you J De:azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Shirley Allegre Enviada: domingo, 13 de Julho de 2014 19:47 Para: azores@googlegroups.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] TOLEDO from Terceira I have some TOLEDOs in my database from Quatro Ribeira, Terceira. Who are you looking for??? I have several TOLEDO listed. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From:Eliseu Pacheco da Silva To:AZORES GENEALOGY - Google group Sent:Sunday, July 13, 2014 4:03 AM Subject:[AZORES-Genealogy] TOLEDO from Terceira Good Morning J ! Does anyone have the surname TOLEDO (Toledo dos Santos or Santos Toledo) from Quatro Ribeiras? Eliseu Pacheco da Silva Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: What does Recebidos em sanctos mean?
It's an oiled onction made at the end of the catholoc batism Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Domingo, 6 de Julho de 2014 15:47, JR jmro...@gmail.com escreveu: Yes, recebidos means married. Sanctos means holy. So Holy matrimony, essentially. JR On Sunday, July 6, 2014 1:29:01 AM UTC-4, E Sharp wrote: I found this on a baptism record and after the names of the parents and where they were baptized, it says recebidos em sanctos. I gather it is something about their marriage??? or what does it mean? Thank you. E -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need Help with one word - Pedro Miguel, Fayal, Surname: Luis
What's the right batismo? On left : 1 - Maria Jacinta 2 - Francisca Ignacia 3 - Maria Jacinta on right: 1 - Thereza Ignacia 2 - Francisca Maria 3 - Anna Thomazia Good luck Philippe Garnier Em Segunda-feira, 1 de Setembro de 2014 19:35, aportugee via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com escreveu: Margaret and Cheri; I’m so happy to get two responses that agree on the name as I couldn’t make it out at all! Thanks much, Sam Sent from Windows Mail From: Margaret Vicente Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 6:37 PM To: azores Sam, Anna (Ana) Francisca. On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 9:18 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Top Left: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-B-1806-1826/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-B-1806-1826_item1/P88.html Need help with first name of maternal grandmother…. Thanks, Sam -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Portu Judeu marriage
Hi Bill, All I have on Sebastião Rodrigues Pacheco e Isabel Dias MinharesI hope help to you Philippe Garnier Paris - France Ahnentafel Chart for Teresa de Jesus First Generation 1. Teresa de Jesuswas born in Santa Catarina do Cabo da Praia - Terceira (Açores). Teresa married1 ManoelDE BORBA FALEIRO, son of Sebastião DE BORBA FAGUNDES and Maria FALEIROMACHADO, on 25 May 1705 in Santa Catarina do Cabo da Praia - Terceira (Açores).Manoel was christened2 on 9 Nov 1684 in Santa Barbara do Fonte Bastardo -Terceira (Açores). Second Generation 2. Sebastião RODRIGUESPACHECO was born in Santa Catarina do Cabo da Praia - Terceira (Açores) andwas christened3on 25 Jan 1651 in Santa Catarina do Cabo da Praia - Terceira (Açores). He died4 on 28 May 1714 in SantaCatarina do Cabo da Praia - Terceira (Açores). Sebastião married5,6 Isabel DIAS LINHARES on30 Sep 1680 in Santo Antônio de Porto Judeo - Terceira (Açores). 3. Isabel DIAS LINHARES7 was christened8 on 7 Mar 1664 in SantoAntônio do Porto Judeo - Terceira (Açores). She died9 on 8 Jun 1712 in Santa Catarinado Cabo da Praia - Terceira (Açores). ou Dias Diniz in Nemésio Third Generation 4. Francisco COELHOMACHADO was christened10 on 23 Nov 1608 in Santa Cruz da Praia - Terceira(Açores). He married Agueda CAMELO PACHECO. 5. Agueda CAMELOPACHECO was christened11 on 8 Sep 1623 in São Sebastião - Terceira (Açores). 14-9-1641 : madrinha Agueda Machada filha de Alvaro Pachequo ou Agueda Camelo Pacheco (Nemésio) 6. Manoel VAZ DINIZwas born in Santo Antônio do Porto Judeo - Terceira (Açores). He married ClaraLINHARES FIGUEIRA. 7. Clara LINHARESFIGUEIRA was born in Santo Antônio do Porto Judeo - Terceira (Açores). Shedied12 on 21 Feb 1695 in SantoAntônio do Porto Judeo - Terceira (Açores). ou Maria Fourth Generation 8. Belchior MACHADOLOBO was born in São Sebastião - Ilha Terceira (Açores). He died13 on 26 Aug 1639 in SantaCruz da Praia - Terceira (Açores). Belchior married14,15 Isabel GEORGE on 21 Jan 1602 inSanta Cruz da Praia - Terceira (Açores). ou Machado Monção 9. Isabel GEORGEwas born in Santa Cruz da Praia - Terceira (Açores). 10. Capitão AlvaroPACHECO DE LIMA died16 on 5 Dec 1662 in São Sebastião - Ilha Terceira (Açores).He married Ana MACHADO DE FARIA. tabelão de São Sebastião (Espelho cristalino, p. 441) 11. Ana MACHADO DE FARIA17 died18 on 28 Jun 1652 in SãoSebastião - Ilha Terceira (Açores). 14. x19 married Isabel DIAS. 15. Isabel DIAS20 was born in SantoAntônio do Porto Judeo - Terceira (Açores). Fifth Generation 16. Gonçalo ENES MACHADOwas born in São Sebastião - Ilha Terceira (Açores). He married Inès FERNANDES. 17. Inès FERNANDESwas born in São Sebastião - Ilha Terceira (Açores). 18. Amador GEORGE wasborn in Santa Cruz da Praia - Terceira (Açores). He married FranciscaFERNANDES. 19. Francisca FERNANDESwas born in Santa Cruz da Praia - Terceira (Açores). 20. Aleixo PACHECO DELIMA was born in São Sebastião - Terceira (Açores). He married AguedaCAMELO. Anna Machado : sepultada em hua sepultura de seo Avo Aleixo Pachequo 21. Agueda CAMELO21 was born in SãoSebastião - Terceira (Açores). Filha do nobre Fernando Annes Froes, administradora da capella de suatia a matrona Maria Fernandes a Rica (Annaes da Ilha Terceira) 22. Sebastião RODRIGUESFRANCO22,23 was born in São Sebastião - Ilha Terceira (Açores). He married Phelipa DELEMOS. Foi tablléao na vila de São Sebastião (Espelho cristalino) Sebastião Fernandes no testamento de seus pais (Tombo de São Sebastião, pp.83-85) 23. Phelipa DE LEMOSwas born in São Sebastião - Terceira (Açores). She died24 on 6 Apr 1644 inSão Sebastião - Terceira (Açores). Sixth Generation 34. Diogo FERNANDES25 was born in SãoSebastião - Terceira (Açores). He married Bertholeza MENDES. 35. Bertholeza MENDES26 was born in SãoSebastião - Terceira (Açores). 40. Balthazar GONSALVESSIMOES27 was born in São Sebastião - Ilha Terceira (Açores). He married MariaPACHECO. 41. Maria PACHECO28 was born in SãoSebastião - Ilha Terceira (Açores). 42. Fernando ANNES FROES29. 44. Afonso RODRIGUES30,31 was born in SãoSebastião - Ilha Terceira (Açores). He married Ana MACHADO. Espelho Cristalino, p. 441 Testamento approvado em 14-01-1554 (AIT, Vol. I, p.34) 45. Ana MACHADO32,33 was born in SãoSebastião - Ilha Terceira (Açores). 46. Pedro DE LEMOS34 was born in SãoSebastião - Ilha Terceira (Açores). He married Magdalena DE FREITAS. 47. Magdalena DE FREITAS35 was born in SãoSebastião - Ilha Terceira (Açores). Seventh Generation 88. Estevão AFONSOCAMACHO died36 in 1555 in São Sebastião - Ilha Terceira (Açores). He married CatarinaRODRIGUES FAGUNDES.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Matheus Vaz de Azevedo son of Francisco Vaz de Azevedo and Maria Gomes Evangelho
Hi Decio, They are from São Beto. Theses dates, they are no batsism nor marraige in Séao Bento. Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Terça-feira, 27 de Outubro de 2015 18:39, 'Decio' via Azores Genealogyescreveu: I am researching Matheus Vaz de Azevedo son of FranciscoVaz de Azevedo and Maria Gomes Evangelho. I know he got married by Feb 12th, 1651 at Vila Nova, IT but I have no data about his baptism and no data about his parents marriage and baptism records. Any help ? Best regards,Decio Martins de Medeiros-- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Where is Ribeira Seca in Terceira?
In Terceira, Ribeira Seca is (as said Helen) beetween São Sebastião and Fonte Bastardo.No XVI to XVIII centuries, Ribeira Seca was in Fonte Bastardo to the adminstratives problems. Now is in the circumspection of São Sebastião. But, to the parish, all the people went to São Sebastião, all the time (batism, marriage and obit). Ther is a little chapel founded by Gaspar Machado da Ribeira Seca no XVI century. But, no parish records. The records are in São Sebastião. If you send the parents of Maria Felicia (and some date), perhaps I can help you. Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Quinta-feira, 20 de Agosto de 2015 6:52, hisalv via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com escreveu: JessicaRibeira Seca is located between Fonte Bastardo and Sao Sebastiao on the map. Don't know anything about a church thereHelen -Original Message- From: Jessica Lima socialb...@hotmail.com To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2015 8:04 pm Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Where is Ribeira Seca in Terceira? #yiv0076921993 #yiv0076921993AOLMsgPart_2_7e75d54c-366b-4a53-9bd9-749464bbd3f0 td{color:black;}#yiv0076921993 .yiv0076921993aolReplacedBody .yiv0076921993hmmessage P {margin:0px;padding:0px;}#yiv0076921993 .yiv0076921993aolReplacedBody body.yiv0076921993hmmessage {font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;} Hi everyone, I am trying to figure out where Manuel's mother is from. His baptism (bottom left) lists his mother Maria Felicia from Ribeira Seca? I know it's in Terceira but that isn't a freguesia is it? And if it is a freguesia it doesn't have church books? Jessica http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-FONTEDOBASTARDO-B-1722-1796/TER-PV-FONTEDOBASTARDO-B-1722-1796_item1/P96.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Francisco Pacheco Evangelho & Maria da Fonseca 1645 Santa Cruz (V. da Praia), Terceira
Dear Doreen I am going out for a few day. After back home, I'll answer you. OK? Best regards. Philippe Philippe Garnier Paris - France « Aos nossos a honra de nascer entre nos, Aos outros a pena de não ser um dos nossos. » Familias pesquizadas : Ferreira Armond - Côrtes - Figueiredo - Villas Boas - Teixeira - Domingues de Araujo - Antunes de Siqueira - Rodrigues da Costa - Diniz - Conde Werneck (Dos Santos, Almeida Ramos, Pinheiro de Souza)- Nogueira (Sa, Gama, Brandão) - Figueira Vieira Machado Em Terça-feira, 29 de Setembro de 2015 21:07, lindaescreveu: Hi Doreen, I am out of town and away from my files for the next few days, but if you like I can forward what I have on Marcos de Bracellos & Branca Gomes. If I recall correctly, I gathered their names from the marriage record of their child, my direct ancestor. That was as far as I had got with that line. Before Philippe shared his research, I thought that might be as far as I would be able to go. Linda -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] baptismal; words within
Yes "recibidos" = "married in" Santa Rosa de Sacramento California.After is : "parochianos deste freguezia onde são moradores no lugar da Ribeira do Bello" :"parishioners of this parish where lived in Ribeira do Bello"father grandson of Joao Silveira Soares e Mariana Joaquina Lopesmother grandson of José Silveira de Lemos e de Ana Luiza Margarida Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Domingo, 26 de Junho de 2016 17:43, Smeescreveu: Good day everyone. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1880-1889/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1880-1889_item1/P180.html Right side, Arthur. Can the word "recibidos" also mean "married in"? This couple were "recibidos" in the city of Sacramento, California. And the words immediately after California, what do they translate to? Thank you. Suzanne -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Does this baptismal record say the baby died? Joao, son o Joao da Costa
Hi Maria Elena, João born with a brother (hum irmao). They are baptised the same day and the other (brother of João) died (o outro faleceo). João received "exorcismos" on 13th of the same month and year.Abs Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Terça-feira, 5 de Abril de 2016 23:18, Maria Limaescreveu: I got through the first part of the birth date but after reading the year the record says he was born and "luego baptized and after that I can't read it - well I don't understand it. It mentions the word 'faleceu" and subcondiciones. I checked the obits and there's none for Joao son of Joao da Costa and Ana Martins but it seems like from what little I could read, the baby died? Also, the next boy born was given the same name of Joao which was the name of the father- Joao da Costa (Lima). And there's a couple of missing pages as well from the obits after November 1704. If anyone could read and help me with this- thank you in advance邏 Lower left record http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-B-1699-1706/SMG-PD-RELVA-B-1699-1706_item1/P74.html Maria Elena -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Does this baptismal record say the baby died? Joao, son o Joao da Costa
Maria Helena, Sry, i was out of internet during a week.It's seems the better you said : "unknown", with death date the same birth date. Amitiés Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Quarta-feira, 6 de Abril de 2016 1:17, Maria Lima <maria.lima...@gmail.com> escreveu: Hi Phillippe: I'm still trying to find the words where it says "um irmao". It seems the priest doesn't mention a second child in the beginning of the record. I wish I could read Portuguese better. Thanks. If there were 2 children born, do I enter unknown child in the family tree? Thanks for your help Maria Elena On Apr 5, 2016, at 5:00 PM, 'Philippe GARNIER' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: Hi Maria Elena, João born with a brother (hum irmao). They are baptised the same day and the other (brother of João) died (o outro faleceo). João received "exorcismos" on 13th of the same month and year.Abs Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Terça-feira, 5 de Abril de 2016 23:18, Maria Lima <maria.lima...@gmail.com> escreveu: I got through the first part of the birth date but after reading the year the record says he was born and "luego baptized and after that I can't read it - well I don't understand it. It mentions the word 'faleceu" and subcondiciones. I checked the obits and there's none for Joao son of Joao da Costa and Ana Martins but it seems like from what little I could read, the baby died? Also, the next boy born was given the same name of Joao which was the name of the father- Joao da Costa (Lima). And there's a couple of missing pages as well from the obits after November 1704. If anyone could read and help me with this- thank you in advance邏 Lower left record http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-B-1699-1706/SMG-PD-RELVA-B-1699-1706_item1/P74.html Maria Elena -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] abbreviation Fernandez or Gonzalez
Hi Maria helena, Andre Frs (Fernandes) :OK. But, Raposo doesn't seem correct. Look the name Roiz (Rodrigues). The "R" is differentt of the first letter.Perhaps a "B" like Bispado (4 lines upper), or Borges (2 lines upper) and Bernabe in the next mariage (in the "testemunhas", 2nd line from end).After the B, it's difficult ; Bis... the final sign is probably a "v" (like Vigario of the priest signature). "Bisvo" ??? is not usual to me. It's need other text about the Andre Fernandes (child batism or mariage). AmitiésPhilippe Garnier Paris - France Em Quinta-feira, 7 de Abril de 2016 15:05, Maria Limaescreveu: Top right hand 4th line from bottom- The abbreviations for Fernandez and Gonzales seem so similar to me Is Maria Martins father named Andre FERNANDEZ RAPOZO? I know the mother is Maria Goncalvez. The Fernandez abbreviation does look different but not sure. I found this name on Family Search but it said Fernandez. But then, they didn't enter the name Rapozo either. Is is Rapozo after the name Fernandez? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CANDELARIA-C-1551-1681/SMG-PD-CANDELARIA-C-1551-1681_item1/P65.html Maria Elena -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family secret? Mystery - Sao Mateues, Terceira
Hi Lee, Yes, it's possible. I have some cases in my data base. But, the mariage record would be mentionned a "dispensa por consanguinidade de 1° grao em linha colateral" ou "1° e 2° grao de consanguinidade". It's not write, in your case. Josefa Joaquina is a frequent surname. I have 12 Josefa Joaquina in my data base (but not yours). The most probable is the priest wrote tio maternos (would be a mistake), in place of tios paternos (I look that a lot of time).Then Josefa Joaquina, wife of Manoel José Coelho, is the sister of Antônio da Rocha Tristão and the paternal aunt of Maria. Try to find the batism record of Maria do Carmo in São Mateus and , perhaps, there are the parents of Josefa Joaquina, mother of Maria do Carmo. If not, the godparents could be indications. Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Domingo, 24 de Julho de 2016 23:44, Leeescreveu: Earlier I posted a question about the birth of Maria, daughter of Maria do Carmo and husband Antonio da Rocha Tristtao about the padrinhos. Now I have a real mystery/puzzle/family secret on my hands? I am researching the family of Maria do Carmo and Antonio da Rocha Tristao; below are sources/causes of my confusion (mystery/puzzle). First, the marriage of Maria and Antonio http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SAOMATEUSCALHETA-C-1831-1860/TER-AH-SAOMATEUSCALHETA-C-1831-1860_item1/P46.html you can see that Maria's parents are given as Josefa Joquina and pai nao sabido (unknown father). And Antonio's parents are given as Francisco da Rocha Tristao and Marianna Jacinta. Second, the birth of Maria (posted earlier) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SAOMATEUSCALHETA-B-1852-1860/TER-AH-SAOMATEUSCALHETA-B-1852-1860_item1/P2.html I figured out that the Tios materna meant "maternal uncles/aunt"; but does it mean Manoel Jose Coelho or Josefa Joquina? (Remmber, Maria do Carmo's mother was a Josefa Joaquina per her marriage above. And, third, the marriage of Josefa Joaquina and Manoel Jose Coelho http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SAOMATEUSCALHETA-C-1831-1860/TER-AH-SAOMATEUSCALHETA-C-1831-1860_item1/P45.html Her parents are not listed, but she is the widow of one Joaquin Jose Brasil who died in/is buried is Sao Pedro. Last, the marriage of Josefa Joaquina and Joaquin Jose Brasil in Sao Pedro http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SAOPEDRO-C-1820-1843/TER-AH-SAOPEDRO-C-1820-1843_item1/P82.html Her parents are listed as Francisco da Rocha Tristao and Marianna Jacina, who are the parents of Antonio da Rocha Tristato (first marriage record above) who married Maria do Carmo, daughter of a Josefa Joaquina, who is listed has her mother in the same record above (1st one). My conundrum, did Maria do Carmo marry her uncle I can tell you, this one is driving me a little by crazy. It's keeps going in circles and circlesI think Josefa Joaquina and the family were trying to hide something (or someone). Any suggestions/comments/ideas appreciated. Lee EstepOak Hill WV PS - Sorry for the long post.-- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with marriage record - Fontinas, Terceira Jose Homem and Marianna do Coracao de Jesus
The date is 1832, february 26.I have not this one, but i have a few of ascendants of Manoel Homem Martins and Josefa Antonia. See after. Philippe Garnier Paris - France Ahnentafel Chart for Manoel HOMEMMARTINS First Generation 1. ManoelHOMEM MARTINS was born on 4 May 1749 in São Roque dos Altares - Terceira(Açores) and was christened1 on 12 May 1749 in Santa Barbara do Fonte Bastardo -Terceira (Açores). Manoel married2 JosefaAntonia, daughter of Manoel VIEIRA BORBA and Mariana BAPTISTA, on 29 Nov1778 in Santa Cruz da Praia - Terceira (Açores). Josefa was born in Santa Cruzda Praia - Terceira (Açores). Second Generation 2. Paschoal MARTINSBARRANCOS was born on 14 Apr 1702 in Santa Barbara do Fonte Bastardo -Terceira (Açores) and was christened3 on 19 Apr 1702 in Santa Barbara do Fonte Bastardo -Terceira (Açores). He married4 Maria de Santo Antônio on 2 Nov 1733 in Santa Barbara doFonte Bastardo - Ilha Terceira (Açores). 3. Maria de SantoAntônio was born on 17 Apr 1706 in São Sebastião - Terceira (Açores) andwas christened5on 22 Apr 1706 in São Sebastião - Terceira (Açores). Third Generation 4. Sebastião MARTINS REBELOwas born in Santa Barbara do Fonte Bastarda - Terceira (Açores). He married6 Agueda RODRIGUES on 20Jun 1700 in Santa Barbara do Fonte Bastardo - Terceira (Açores). 5. Agueda RODRIGUESwas born in Santo Antônio do Porto Judeo - Terceira (Açores). 6. Salvador MARQUESwas christened7on 20 Jun 1669 in São Sebastião - Terceira (Açores). He died8 on 28 Mar 1725 in SãoSebastião - Terceira (Açores). Salvador married9 Maria de Santo Antônio on 13 Jul1705 in São Sebastião - Terceira (Açores). 7. Maria de SantoAntônio was born in Sao Bartolomeo - Resgatos -Terceira (Açores). Fourth Generation 10. Manoel DE BARCELOSwas born in NS da Pena das Fontinhas - Terceira (Açores). He married MariaMENDES. 11. Maria MENDES wasborn in NS da Pena das Fontinhas - Terceira (Açores). 12. Bartolomeo VIEIRA DEAGUIAR10 was born in São Sebastião - Terceira (Açores). He married Maria SIMOISLEONARDES. 13. Maria SIMOISLEONARDES11,12 was christened13 on 25 Oct 1632 in São Sebastião - Terceira (Açores). She died14 on 3 Apr 1702 in SãoSebastião - Terceira (Açores). 14. Joseph DA COSTAwas born in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras - Terceira (Açores). He married15 Isabel NOGUEIRA on 9 Sep1676 in São Bartholomeo dos Resgatos - Terceira (Açores). 15. Isabel NOGUEIRAwas born in São Bartolomeo dos Resgatos -Terceira (Açores). Fifth Generation 26. Gregorio MARQUES16 was born in SantaBarbara do Fonte Bastardo - Terceira (Açores). He died17 on 13 Jan 1679 in SãoSebastião - Terceira (Açores). Gregorio married Justa LOURENÇO. 27. Justa LOURENÇOdied18 on 19 Mar 1687 in SãoSebastião - Terceira (Açores). 28. Pedro GONSALVESwas born in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras - Terceira (Açores). He married19 Ana DA COSTA on 4 Nov1641 in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras - Terceira (Açores). 29. Ana DA COSTA wasborn in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras - Terceira (Açores). 30. Agostinho MARTINSwas born in São Bartholomeo dos Resgatos - Terceira (Açores). He married20 Maria VIEIRA on 9 Feb1653 in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras - Terceira (Açores). 31. Maria VIEIRA wasborn in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras - Terceira (Açores). Sixth Generation 52. Gaspar GREGORIOwas born in Santa Barbara do Fonte Bastardo - Terceira (Açores). He died21 on 22 Oct 1650 in SantaBarbara do Fonte Bastardo - Terceira (Açores). Gaspar married Maria FRANCO. 53. Maria FRANCO wasborn in Santa Barbara do Fonte Bastardo - Terceira (Açores). She died22 on 23 Aug 1669 in SantaBarbara do Fonte Bastardo - Terceira (Açores). 56. Pedro ALVERES wasborn in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras - Terceira (Açores). He married23 Catarina GONSALVES on 23Jan 1600 in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras - Terceira (Açores). 57. Catarina GONSALVESwas born in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras - Terceira (Açores). 58. Manoel MARTINSwas born in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras - Terceira (Açores). He married24 Barbara DA COSTA on 9Apr 1587 in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras - Terceira (Açores). 59. Barbara DA COSTAwas born in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras - Terceira (Açores). 60. Bento MARTINS wasborn in São Bartholomeo dos Resgatos - Terceira (Açores). He married CatarinaNOGUEIRA. 61. Catarina NOGUEIRAwas born in São Bartholomeo dos Resgatos - Terceira (Açores). 62. Antônio RODRIGUESVIEIRA was born in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras - Terceira (Açores). Hemarried Isabel DIAS. 63. Isabel DIAS wasborn in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras - Terceira (Açores). Seventh Generation 112. Belchior ALVERESwas born in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras - Terceira (Açores). He marriedInês
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage of Joao Coelho and Izabel da Trinidade - Terceira - help with parents names
Hi Le, I have some ascendants of this couple Philippe Garnier Paris - France Ahnentafel Chart for Antônio COELHO DE MELO First Generation 1. Antônio COELHO DEMELO was born in São Roque dos Altares - Terceira (Açores). Antônio married1 Beatrisdos Anjos, daughter of Manoel CORREA and Maria Dos Anjos, on 18 Dec 1758 inSão Roque dos Altares - Terceira (Açores). Beatris was born in São Roque dosAltares - Terceira (Açores). Second Generation 2. João COELHO DECARVALHO was born in São Roque dos Altares - Terceira (Açores). He married2 Isabel da Trindade on 29Jan 1730 in São Roque dos Altares - Terceira (Açores). 3. Isabel da Trindadewas born in São Roque dos Altares - Terceira (Açores). Third Generation 4. Roque COELHO DE MELOwas born in São Roque dos Altares - Terceira (Açores). He married3 Maria CARVALHO on 5 Nov1702 in São Roque dos Altares - Terceira (Açores). 5. Maria CARVALHOwas born in São Roque dos Altares - Terceira (Açores). 6. Antônio CARDOSOwas born in São Roque dos Altares - Terceira (Açores). He married4 Catarina DE MELO on 29Dec 1691 in São Pedro dos Biscoitos - Terceira (Açores). 7. Catarina DE MELOwas born in São Pedro dos Biscoitos - Terceira (Açores). Fourth Generation 8. João GONSALVES DEORNELAS was born in São Roque dos Altares - Terceira (Açores). He married5 Beatris DE MELO on 17Jun 1657 in São Roque dos Altares - Terceira (Açores). 9. Beatris DE MELOwas born in São Roque dos Altares - Terceira (Açores). 10. Antão MARTINS COELHOwas born in São Roque dos Altares - Terceira (Açores). He married6 Joana NUNES on 2 Feb1665 in São Roque dos Altares - Terceira (Açores). 11. Joana NUNES wasborn in São Roque dos Altares - Terceira (Açores). 12. Gaspar CARDOSOwas born in São Roque dos Altares - Terceira (Açores). He married Maria DEMELO. 13. Maria DE MELO wasborn in São Roque dos Altares - Terceira (Açores). Fifth Generation 16. Pedro DE ORNELASwas born in São Roque dos Altares - Terceira (Açores). He married MariaGONSALVES. 17. Maria GONSALVESwas born in São Roque dos Altares - Terceira (Açores). 18. Balthazar GONSALVESBAIÃO was born in São Roque dos Altares - Terceira (Açores). He marriedMaria DE MELO. 19. Maria DE MELO wasborn in São Roque dos Altares - Terceira (Açores). 20. Diogo FERNANDESwas born in São Roque dos Altares - Terceira (Açores). He married CatarinaCOELHO. 21. Catarina COELHOwas born in São Roque dos Altares - Terceira (Açores). 22. Francisco DIAS COELHOwas born in São Roque dos Altares - Terceira (Açores). He married MariaCARVALHO. 23. Maria CARVALHOwas born in São Roque dos Altares - Terceira (Açores). Appendix A - Sources 1. Arquivos de Angra - Altares, ph. 168. 2. Arquivos de Angra - Altares, ph. 56. dispensados em terceiro ecoarto grao de consanguinidade. 3. Arquivos de Angra - Altares, L° dos casamentos 1648-1712, ph. 89. 4. Arquivos de Angra - Biscoitos, ph. 28. 5. Arquivos de Angra - Altares, L° dos casamentos n°1, ph 8. 6. Arquivos de Angra - Altares, L° dos casamentos 1648-1712, ph. 18. Em Segunda-feira, 4 de Julho de 2016 0:38, Leeescreveu: I am lucky that the CCA site seems to be mostly working for me today. Below is the marriage of Joao Coelho and Izabel da Trinidade (January 29, 1730 - right side bottom (Image 56) and left side top (image 57). Joao Coelho filho de Roque Coelho and Maria (at the very bottom of image 56) Carvalha? (on image 57) Top of image 57 if water damaged and difficult to read (for me, at least). Izabel da/de Trinidade filha de and Catharina de Mello? Thank you. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763_item1/P56.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763_item1/P57.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel da Silva- help with margin notes on baptismal record
YesFaleceu em 9 de novembro de 1938 (Castelo Branco concelho de Horta) Registo n°265 fls 134 Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Quinta-feira, 30 de Junho de 2016 7:53, Becky Mendoncaescreveu: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-B-1832-1860/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-B-1832-1860_item1/P284.html Top right hand side. I think it's saying that Manuel died in Nov 1938, but not sure of the rest...any help welcome.Thanks! -- Becky/John MendoncaResearching Faial island- do Valle, da Silva, da Rosa, Silveira, Pereira-- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with translation
Hi Colleen, With my poor english : 1905,February 12 in Matris of this town, Concil of Santa Crauz, ilha Graciosa,"Diocese" de Angra, batized a male child, with th name of Manoel, whoat 8:00 am born on 1906, January 27, son of João da Cunha da Silva Mendonça,worker, and Maria Augusta da Cunha, home occupation, natives and andparishionners of this parish, living in Logaro local, father grandson of JoãoCorrea da Silva, and Anna da Soledade da Cunha, mother grandson of José deSouza da Cunha, and Maria Julia da Cunha.Godfather was José de Souza da Cunha,married, and godmother Maria Julia da Cunha, married … (Godparents) don’t signbecause they don'y know to write. Best regards Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Sexta-feira, 7 de Outubro de 2016 23:43, Steve Wrightescreveu: I believe this to be information regarding my great grandparents but I am unable to read. Any clues would be helpful. I recognize the names on both pages. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1904-1911/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1904-1911_item1/P35.html Thank you, Colleen WrightResearching: Cunha, Rosa, Bettencourt from Graciosa -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record
Hi Suzanne With my poor english : 1869, January 20,in San Thiago Parish da Ribeira Seca, Ilha São Jorge, "Diocèse " ofAngra, Joaquim d'Azevedo e Maria Laurencia da Silveira, who are adult, withoutimpediment, canonic or civil, to marriage. Him, 42 years old, single, "lavrador",native of this parish and batized in, legitim son of Manoel Joaquim d'Azevedo,and Maria Delfina da Silva, natives of this parish. Her, 29 years old, single, homeoccupation, native of this parish and baptised in, daughter of José TeixeiraMancebo (mancebo = young) and Maurencia Rosa da Silveira, natives of thisparish etc. (Add)Oscontractants, Antonio Joaquim de Azevedo e Maria Laurencia da Silveira ... reconizelegally children Manoel born on 1861, 23 november, baptized 10 december of thesame year, in this parish; Maria, born 1864, 13 octuber, baptized 16 of thesame month and year, in this parish; Mariana, born on 1867, 20 july, baptizedon 1st august of the same year, in this parish Best regards Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Sexta-feira, 7 de Outubro de 2016 5:28, Smeescreveu: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1860-1869_item1/P107.html Hello. Bottom right page of this marriage record, the priest added additional information. Can I please get a rough translation of what he is saying? Thank you in advance. Suzanne -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH DEATH TRANSLATION
Hi Carmen He died with 2,5 months Best regards Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Quinta-feira, 6 de Outubro de 2016 19:07, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogyescreveu: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1900-1905/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1900-1905_item1/P119.html I am looking for Manoel dos Santos son of Manoel Jacinto dos Santos and Albina da Conceicao I don't think this is it - mother's name don't match what is the age he died? thank you carmen -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] STUCK ON THESE
1stMaria daughter of Joze Monteiro native of the church ofSanta Maria Madalena of Ilha do Pco, and Ignacia Maria native of church ofApostolo São Pedro of this town, paternal grandson of Manoel Rodrigues and PrudenciaRoza, maternal grandson of other Manoel Rodrigues and Maria de São João, bornon Mach 3, 1835, baptised on 15 do samemonth and year in this church of Patriarcho São José of this town bay IFrancico Xavier de França, priest … godparents are Francisco Jacinto, and hissister Maria Augusta, singles 2ndMayo 30,1867, but it's not the Maria's mariage 3rdMariadaughter of Manoel Rodrigues and Prudencia Rosa born November 2, 1798, batised onDecember 4,1798, godparents Joze Rodrigues Caetano brother of the baptised father,and FranciscaLuiza single, sister of the baptised mother Philippe Garnier Paris - France http://philippegarnier112.wixsite.com/familiasilhaterceira/copie-de-familias-da-ilha-terceira Em Sexta-feira, 28 de Outubro de 2016 20:47, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogyescreveu: birth of maria second page - first entry http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1833-1836/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1833-1836_item1/P125.html marriage of maria last on second page http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1860-1869/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1860-1869_item1/P169.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1860-1869/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1860-1869_item1/P170.html i am trying to find her parents and marriage date - Manoel Rodriques + Prudência Rosa i've been searching magdalena in pico all i could find is http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800_item1/P289.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1800-1815/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1800-1815_item1/P12.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1800-1815/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1800-1815_item1/P57.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1800-1815/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1800-1815_item1/P128.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1800-1815/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1800-1815_item1/P129.html i believe mauricio is jose - his godfather is jose mauricio i've been searching for his marriage in sao pedro - no hits do i search ignacia's baptism in sao pedro? thanks carmen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP
Hi Carmen, "why is his last name soares when his father's is da costa". His parents are Antonio da Costa and Umbelina Francisca. The parents of Umbelina Francisca are Francisco Soares e Maria de Matos. O "Soares" is from his maternal grandfather.The composed surname of the portugues people is, the more frequently, an association of a paternal surname and a maternal surname. It's very frequent that a child have not the same surname of the father. The complete surname of Jacinto is "Soares Oliveira". Then, probably, there is an "Oliveira" in the ascendants of Antonio da Costa. The godfather of Maria and the "procurador" of the madrinha are children of Antonio Soares Rebelo. Probably from the Francisco Soares family.The godfather of Teresa is Francisco Soares son fo Francisca Soares. Probably the brother of Umbelina Francisca. And the "procurador" of the godmother is José Soares. Probably from the Francisco Soares family.The dois "procuradores" of the godparents of Antonio are"Francisco Soares de Oliveira priest", probably a parent of Jacinto Soares Oliveira, and João Francisco Soares, Probably from the Francisco Soares family. Philippe Garnier Paris - France http://philippegarnier112.wixsite.com/familiasilhaterceira/copie-de-familias-da-ilha-terceira Em Quinta-feira, 20 de Outubro de 2016 21:34, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogyescreveu: thank you jeremy i was able to find siblings for jacinto soares maria http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1775-1786/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1775-1786_item1/P277.html thereza http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P23.html antonio http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P70.html then no births after that at matriz i figure jacinto was born around 1799 the family probably moved is there another igreja nearby besides matriz here's the link again for his and his parents marriage http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P130.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_item1/P45.html why is his last name soares when his father's is da costa thank you carmen On Wed, 10/19/16, 'Jeremy B-C' via Azores Genealogy wrote: Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2016, 10:20 PM marriage of jacinto soares to jacinta rosa in 1821 guerabina? YOU GOT THE NAMES CORRECT, BUT I READ THE DATE AS OCT 29 1823 N0T 1821 his parents are António da Costa and Umbelina Francis - she is deceased? her parents are José Monis and Maria da Estrella YES, AND AT LEAST ONE OF THE GRROMS PARENTS IS DECEASED. DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT I THINK IT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE DEFUNCTAS. here is jacinta's baptism in 1804? YEP! I WOULD READ IT AS NOVEMBER 5th 1804 could this be António da Costa and Umbelina Francis' marriage - what is the year? YES, I THINK YOU HAVE IT. I READ THAT DATE AS THE 8th OF DECEMBER 1781. NOT 100% SURE ON THE 8th, BUT I READ THE ONE BEFORE IT AS THE 7th, AND THE ONE AFTER IT AS THE 10th. Hope this is of some help! Jeremy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
Hi Carme, See down into your text my commentaries. Normaly, the detahs of Maria and Manoel must be in the same parish. Best regards Philippe Garnier Paris - France Familias da ilha Terceira | | | Familias da ilha Terceira Familias da ilha Terceira : Francisco Ferreira Dormonde (Ormonde, Armond) Aleixo Pacheo de Lima Manoel de Ponte ... | | | Em Terça-feira, 18 de Outubro de 2016 17:01, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogyescreveu: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833_item1/P69.html left side manoel de guiar - maria de pimentel OK.In the texte her name is Maria de Pimentel Rezendes his parents - José Aguiar - Nordestinho + Josefa Perreira - Nordestinho OK his birth - May 7, 1788 - Nordestinho, Nordeste Don't existe here his christening - May 20, 1788 - Igreja de São Pedro, Nordestinho, NordesteMay 22, 1788. Batism. marriage - December 2, 1812 - Igreja de Nossa Senhora da Penha de França, Água Retorta Date OK. Lugar "Nossa Senhora da Graça do lugar do Faial na Filial Ermida de Nossa Senhora da Penha de França do sitio da Água Retorta" her parents - António de Pimentel - Faial da Terra + Antónia Marguisa - Faial da Terra Antonia Marquia natives de Nossa Senhora da Graça her birth - November ?, 1793 - Faial da Terra her christening - November 30, 1793 - Igreja de Nossa Senhora da Graça, Faial da Terra OK.It's the batism i'm taking a wild guess on this translation please correct my mistakes what is the word after maria de pimentel and before filha de Rezendes i could not find a baptism for maria where would i look for manoel and maria's deaths? thank you carmen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS !!!
Hi Carmen, This record http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825_item1/P93.html said that João Inacio de Souza was burried on 1801, october (no day date). This record is a sentence of the parish priest who did it by request of Umbelina Jacinta. The sentence date is 1807, 14 march.The correct date of the marriage of Umbelina Jacinta with Francisco da Costa is 1807, 15 march (not 14 march).Then, before her 2nd marriage, Umbelina Jacinta needed a sentence to confirm her 1st husband is died. Best regards Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Domingo, 20 de Novembro de 2016 19:25, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogyescreveu: hi jr just sent you some scans Carmen On Sun, 11/20/16, JR wrote: Subject: Re: (Manoel de Medeiros + Barbara Furtado)Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS !!! To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Sunday, November 20, 2016, 12:48 PM I mean, who are the children of Teresa de Jesus and Jacinto Luis. Their marriage? Once I have a name I can generate both sides of this family and send you a report. I will send it as RTF. MS works should easily open it. If not, I will send as simple text file. JR On Sunday, November 20, 2016 at 12:07:43 PM UTC-5, carmen furtado wrote:i only use microsoft works - it might open a word document i find a have only one file on my computer that's a microsoft works word processor file - it has a wps extension do you have my email addy? Thereza de Jesús parents - João Ignácio da Rocha + Francisca de Jesús paternal grandparents - Francisco da Costa (son of Manoel da Costa + Antónia Roza de Mello) + Umbelina Jacinta (daughter of Amaro da Rocha + Josefa Marianna do Sacramento) maternal grandparents - Pedro Furtado da Fontes (son of Joam Furtado + Josefa de Medeiros) + Lourianna de Jesús (daughter of Manoel de Medeiros + Barbara Furtado) this all i have so far on her ancestors thanks a bunch Carmen -- -- On Sun, 11/20/16, JR wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS !!! To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Sunday, November 20, 2016, 11:08 AM It appears someone forgot to enter the obito of Joao Inacio Sousa in the records of Ponta Garca. So, by order of the district Reverendo, a record was entered stating that he died in Oct of 1801. The order was made March 12- 1807, just before Umbelina Jacinta married a second time to Francisco da Costa on March 15- 1807. Carmen I will send you a file to your private address. Can you open a WORD document? Also who are the ancestors that lead to Jacinto Luis and Teresa de Jesus. It may help to trace your ancestors. Sometimes people carry names forward that do not appear in their official records until much later. For example your Joao Inacio [cc Francisca de Jesus] was AKA Joao Inacio da Costa or Joao Inacio da Rocha. JR On Sunday, November 20, 2016 at 7:18:20 AM UTC-5, carmen furtado wrote:morning rick i believe you solved the mystery i cannot read the documents i only look for words like mez, filho, filha anno, etc. when i was looking for his death i first found this in 1880 - last entry http://culturacores.azores. gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/ SMG- VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825/ SMG- VF-PONTAGARCA-O-1788-1825_ item1/P55.html it wasn't continued to the next page and when i found his record i thought it was a baby that died wonder when it was added to the page thanks Carmen - - -- On Sat, 11/19/16, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS !!! To: azo...@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, November 19, 2016, 8:18 PM #yiv2052606152 #yiv2052606152 -- _filtered #yiv2052606152 {font-family:Calibri;panose- 1: 2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv2052606152 {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1: 2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} _filtered #yiv2052606152 {panose-1:2 4 6 2 5 3 5 3 3 4;} #yiv2052606152 #yiv2052606152 p.yiv2052606152MsoNormal, #yiv2052606152 li.yiv2052606152MsoNormal, #yiv2052606152 div.yiv2052606152MsoNormal
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trying to figure out name, top right side of page....Rabo de Peixe, Baptismos, 1771-1779
Yes it is Scolatisca (Escolastica) Philippe Garnier Paris - France http://philippegarnier112.wixsite.com/familiasilhaterceira/copie-de-familias-da-ilha-terceira Em Sexta-feira, 25 de Novembro de 2016 9:14, Aaron Pereiraescreveu: Hello, I'm trying to figure out the name of a female child...top right side of page. The name looks like Scolastica. I appreciate any help. Thank you. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1771-1779/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1771-1779_item1/P170.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manoel TEIXEIRA parent of: confirmation on name of parents
Correct. Thome son of Manoel Teixeira and Josefa Gonçalves Philippe Garnier Paris - France http://philippegarnier112.wixsite.com/familiasilhaterceira/copie-de-familias-da-ilha-terceira Em Sexta-feira, 21 de Outubro de 2016 3:45, Maria Limaescreveu: LOWER RIGHT- does it say: Thome, son of Manoel Teixeira and Josefa Goncalves. ...(?). I was actually looking for their son, Manoel, and found Thome instead (I think). http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-B-1720-1733/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-B-1720-1733_item1/P11.html Maria Elena -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brazil records
In Family serach : https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20=%2Bplace%3A%22Brazil%22=399360-50 Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Sábado, 8 de Outubro de 2016 19:54, Paulescreveu: Where can I find online Brazilian genealogy records? Paul G. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rosais, Sao Jorge baptism margin note
Hi Mary, I think the obit of Manuel was on 1937, 3 April.The marriage was on 1923, 23 April.The the margin note was wrote on 1975, 5 April. Why 40 years between the obit and the margin note ? Perhaps a certificate was useful to a descendant in 1975. Best regards Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Sábado, 15 de Outubro de 2016 18:23, Mary Bordiescreveu: I was wondering if anyone can help me with this margin note. I have never had such a long one for an ancestor! It's Manuel, #29 on the right hand page going over to the next page (which would be the next image). http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1880-1889/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1880-1889_item1/P105.html This is my grandmother's first cousin (new to me). I think the top note was written after the part on the next page. It appears to be dated 1937 but my eyes may be wrong. Is it about his death? On the next page I get the part about his marriage to Maria Amelia on (I think) 26 April 1923 but there seem to be other dates. I don't need a word for word translation. I'd just like to know if I'm missing something important. Thanks for any help! Mary-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pedro Goncalves Barrantes and Maria Rodrigues
Yes, I know this genealogy (It's a copy of the book "Genealogias da Ilha Terceira, Vol. III, p. 11-15).But it's too long to a reappearence of a surname 3 centuries after. I confirm the suname of Pedro Gonçalves is "Barrancos". He is a end-line. Without others documents, we cannot know his parents. Your Pedro Gonçalves is "Gonçalves Sapato" married with Maria Rodrigues and father of Beatriz Gonçalves married with Antonio Gonçalves Caldeira. It's not the same. Francisco Vieira and Esperança de Jesus had, at least, five children married, and a lot of descendants. Best regards Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Sexta-feira, 7 de Julho de 2017 18:07, "doreencaet...@gmail.com" <doreencaet...@gmail.com> escreveu: #yiv6068573299 #yiv6068573299 -- _filtered #yiv6068573299 {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 5 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv6068573299 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv6068573299 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv6068573299 #yiv6068573299 p.yiv6068573299MsoNormal, #yiv6068573299 li.yiv6068573299MsoNormal, #yiv6068573299 div.yiv6068573299MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;}#yiv6068573299 a:link, #yiv6068573299 span.yiv6068573299MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv6068573299 a:visited, #yiv6068573299 span.yiv6068573299MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv6068573299 .yiv6068573299MsoChpDefault {} _filtered #yiv6068573299 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv6068573299 div.yiv6068573299WordSection1 {}#yiv6068573299 Thanks for the info.I thought I would share the information I have on the other Barrantes from the 1300’s: She was Dona Maria Fernandes Barrantes (in my book from Joao Ventura on page 433) married to Joao Lourenco do Amaral. Dona Maria and Joao have a daughter Dona Brites Anes do Amaral who was born about 1410. Dona Brites (pg 397-433) marries Vasco Cardoso and they have a son named Luis Vaz Cardoso born about 1420 (pg 397). Luis married Leanor Rodrigues de Vasconcelos and they have a son named Joao Vaz Cardoso (pg 397). Joao marries Dona Maria de Faria and they have a son who appears in my tree twice. Their son’s name was Martim Anes Cardoso (reference number 164, page 397, 407-397). Martim with unknown woman has Ines Martins Cardoso and Henrique Cardoso. Ines Martins Cardoso (pg 407) was born about 1475 and she marries Alvaro Martins Homem. Henrique (pg 397) marries Beatriz Afonso Homem. I’m wondering if the 1600’s and 1300’s Barrantes/Barrancos lines will connect and if I should change the name of the other Barrantes in my database to Barrancos. What is the proper method for handling this new information? Additional I have a Pedro Goncalves (pg 171) married to a Maria Rodrigues and they have a child named Beatriz Goncalves who was born in Biscoitos. Beatriz marries Antonio Goncalves Caldeira from Biscoitos in 1654. They have a child name Margarida Goncalves born 1606 in Biscoitos and marries Manuel de Avila from Agualva in 1699. Margarida and Manuel have a daughter named Beatriz dos Reis born 1707 in Agualva who marries Manuel Fernandes Vieira of Biscoitos in 1727, Beatris and Manuel have a son named Francisco Vieira born in Biscoitos who marries Esperanca de Jesus in Altares in 1775. After this couple the line stays in Altares. The name seem to follow some of the line you provided. Maybe they connect?Thank you. DoreenSent from Mail for Windows 10 From: 'Philippe GARNIER' via Azores Genealogy Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 8:59 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pedro Goncalves Barrantes and Maria Rodrigues Dear Doreen, To me, this surname is not Barrantes, but BARRANCOS.I have two others Barrancos in my data base :- Antonio Martins Barrancos married in 1712 com Maria do Espirito Santo from Altares. His grandfather is Pedro Gonçalves, without name of the grandmother. It's possibly Pedro Gonçalves Barrancos. The Antonio's mother is Beatriz Rodrigues, then perhaps sister of your Maria Rodrigues.- Pacoal Martins Barrancos from Fonte Bastardo, married in 1733 with Maria de Santo Antônio. Maria Rodrigues married in 1657. Then, born before 1644 (1st batism date). But Beatriz Rodrigues married in 1673. Perhapes born after 1644, and with others informations on this family. Best regards Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Quinta-feira, 6 de Julho de 2017 3:26, doreencaetano <doreencaet...@gmail.com> escreveu: I have this couple as the parents of Maria Rodrigues, who married Francisco Fagundes on 2/4/1657 in Altares, Terceira. Maria Rodrigues was Francisco's 2nd wife. His 1st wife was Maria Goncalves. I see the records indicates that Maria Rodrigues was from Altares. Is there any other leads from the record. I can not find these people anywhere else and you know what that meansblindly searching the baptism and death records for this t
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pedro Goncalves Barrantes and Maria Rodrigues
Dear Doreen, To me, this surname is not Barrantes, but BARRANCOS.I have two others Barrancos in my data base :- Antonio Martins Barrancos married in 1712 com Maria do Espirito Santo from Altares. His grandfather is Pedro Gonçalves, without name of the grandmother. It's possibly Pedro Gonçalves Barrancos. The Antonio's mother is Beatriz Rodrigues, then perhaps sister of your Maria Rodrigues.- Pacoal Martins Barrancos from Fonte Bastardo, married in 1733 with Maria de Santo Antônio. Maria Rodrigues married in 1657. Then, born before 1644 (1st batism date). But Beatriz Rodrigues married in 1673. Perhapes born after 1644, and with others informations on this family. Best regards Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Quinta-feira, 6 de Julho de 2017 3:26, doreencaetanoescreveu: I have this couple as the parents of Maria Rodrigues, who married Francisco Fagundes on 2/4/1657 in Altares, Terceira. Maria Rodrigues was Francisco's 2nd wife. His 1st wife was Maria Goncalves. I see the records indicates that Maria Rodrigues was from Altares. Is there any other leads from the record. I can not find these people anywhere else and you know what that meansblindly searching the baptism and death records for this time period. I was hoping someone from the group might know more... Especially since the last name Barrantes is not very common. I only have it one other time in my databaseD. Maria Fernandes Barrantes, which is from the 1300's. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712_item1/P7.html record on the bottom right side is for their daughter Maria Rodrigues's marriage. I would appreciate any leads possible. Thanks Doreen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Something added to a marriage record- what does it say
The priest gives his blessing.Not possible before because the marriage date is in time prohibited (I never understood why dates are "in time prohibited" ) Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Quarta-feira, 21 de Junho de 2017 6:12, doreencaetanoescreveu: There is something added to the bottom of the marriage record on the very bottom of right sidehttp://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763_item1/P83.html. Can someone tell me what it says?-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help Reading Altares marriage of Manuel Vas da Costa and Antonia de Avila
Manoel Ribeiro sapateiro (shoes maker) Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Sábado, 10 de Junho de 2017 22:33, "bsei2...@gmail.com"escreveu: Here's a record that may be related (bottom left) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712_item1/P48.html. Altares, 15 July 1685 Groom: Salvador Correa da Costa, son of Gaspar Correa da Costa and his wife Luzia CabralBride: Luzia Coelha, daughter of Manuel Ribeiro ??? and his wife Anna da Avila Bill Seidler-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dates of birth and baptism
batizado aos doze (12) do mesmo mes. Perhaps "treze" (13) Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Sexta-feira, 1 de Setembro de 2017 18:18, Smeescreveu: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1716-1728/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1716-1728_item1/P11.html Hi everyone. I need someone to tell me what date the priest wrote for the DObirth, and then the DObaptism. I think I'm reading born on the 8 day of Sep 1716, baptized on the 7 day of same month and year, but I know that must be wrong. Thanks for the help. Suzanne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Confirmation list Lajes Terciera 1635
Sandra, It's a batism book. Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em sábado, 5 de maio de 2018 03:37:11 CEST, Sandra Valine Dauerescreveu: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-LAJES-B-1610-1638/TER-PV-LAJES-B-1610-1638_item1/P70.html I think this maybe a list of the Sacrament of Confirmation listing child, parent, Godparent? Thoughts. Sandra Valine Dauer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Margin notes on Baptism of João Martins de Gouveia 1853
"Faz certidão em 3 de novembre ". I did certificate on 1880, november 3.It's interesting because the date of certificate gives indication about an evenement : death, mariage …. Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em segunda-feira, 2 de julho de 2018 03:04:26 CEST, Joanne Mercier escreveu: #yiv9635629672 body{font-family:Goudy Old Style, Arial;font-size:18px;}Sounds like a good reason to me - thanks again and safe travels to and from the “old country." On July 1, 2018 at 9:00:22 PM, Cheri Mello (gfsche...@gmail.com) wrote: When he needed to prove his age for something. Apassaporte could be on reason. On Jul 1, 2018 5:55 PM, "Joanne Mercier"wrote: Thanks, Cheri - would he have needed a certificate to get apassport? I found that information as well. On July 1, 2018 at8:53:06 PM, Cheri Mello (gfsche...@gmail.com) wrote: A certificate was issued 3 Nov 1880 and theguy signed his name. On Jul 1, 2018 5:46 PM, "JoanneMercier" wrote: http://culturacores.azores.gov .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG- RABODEPEIXE-B-1851-1857/SMG- RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1851-1857_ item1/P54.html If someone could please help me decipher what’s in the marginI’d greatly appreciate it - left page, lower entry. Theabbreviation has me stumped. Many thanks! Joanne Grota Mercier-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the GoogleGroups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,send an email to azores+unsubscribe@googlegroup s.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/grou p/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the GoogleGroups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,send an email to azores+unsubscribe@ googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/ group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the GoogleGroups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,send an email to azores+unsubscribe@ googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/ group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the GoogleGroups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1672 Simao Martins e Maria Pacheca HELP translation Porto Judeu Ter Marriage
Yes, I have not other Consenço. Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Terça-feira, 1 de Maio de 2018 1:38, "bsei2...@gmail.com"escreveu: Thank you Phillipe (once again). Consenso (Consenço) is what it looks like but I couldn't find and example of it being used as a given name. I expect you are correct. Bill Seidler On Monday, April 30, 2018 at 7:02:51 AM UTC-7, Philippe GARNIER wrote: Hi Sndra, Simao Martins, son of Consenço LUIS and Anna _MARTINS (Miz)with Maria Pacheca daughter of Pedro Gonsalves and Maria Pacheca. Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Domingo, 29 de Abril de 2018 7:43, Sandra Valine Dauer escreveu: http://culturacores.azores. gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER- AH-PORTOJUDEU-C-1672-1726/TER- AH-PORTOJUDEU-C-1672-1726_ item1/P4.html Top Right Need groom name Thank you Sandra Valine Dauer On the 30 day of the month of October 1672 this parish (Porto Judeu, Terceria) married Simao Martins, son of ___ and Anna ___with Maria Pacheca daughter of Pedro Gonsalves and Maria Pacheca.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@ googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/ group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1672 Simao Martins e Maria Pacheca HELP translation Porto Judeu Ter Marriage
Hi Sndra, Simao Martins, son of Consenço LUIS and Anna _MARTINS (Miz)with Maria Pacheca daughter of Pedro Gonsalves and Maria Pacheca. Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Domingo, 29 de Abril de 2018 7:43, Sandra Valine Dauerescreveu: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-PORTOJUDEU-C-1672-1726/TER-AH-PORTOJUDEU-C-1672-1726_item1/P4.html Top Right Need groom name Thank you Sandra Valine Dauer On the 30 day of the month of October 1672 this parish (Porto Judeu, Terceria) married Simao Martins, son of ___ and Anna ___with Maria Pacheca daughter of Pedro Gonsalves and Maria Pacheca.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1712 Manuel Alves and Maria da Conceicao HELP with translation
Hi Sandra,Manoel Fernandes de MIRANDA and Bento Fernandes PESSOAS CONHECIDAS (people known) Manuel Alves son of Sebastian Alves OURIQUE and his wife Catharina Dias with Maria da Conceicao widow of Manoel Robello. Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Domingo, 29 de Abril de 2018 7:26, Sandra Valine Dauerescreveu: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SE-C-1702-1720/TER-AH-SE-C-1702-1720_item1/P181.html Top left Especially looking where they lived and native / born. Thank you Sandra Valine Dauer On the 23rd day of November 1712, in the evening, Santa Se d Salvador City of Angra .. this church... Witnesses? Manoel Fernandes do ___ and Bento Fernandes___. married as husband and wife, Manuel Alves son of Sebastian Alves ___ and his wife Catharina Dias with Maria da Conceicao widow of Manoel Robello.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1677 Andre Faleiro e Barbara da Cotta HELP translation Lajes, Terceira
Hi Sandra, Ascendents of André Faleiro e Antonia Cardoso Abraços Philippe Garnier Paris - France Ahnentafel Chart for X FALEIRO First Generation 1. X FALEIRO. Second Generation 2. Andre FALEIROwas christened1on 30 Nov 1635 in São Miguel o Archanjo das Lajes - Terceira (Açores). Hemarried2 Antonia CARDOSO on 8 Jan1673 in São Miguel o Arcanjo das Lagens -Terceira (Açores). 3. Antonia CARDOSOwas born in São Miguel o Arcanjo das Lagens -Terceira (Açores). Third Generation 4. BelchiorFALEIRO was born in Ilha Santa Maria (Açores). He married3 Maria DA COSTA on 14 Feb1628 in Santa Sé do Salvador de Angra - Terceira (Açores). morador no Cabo da Praia, dia de seu casamento 5. Maria DA COSTAwas born in São Miguel o Archanjo das Lajes - Terceira (Açores). 6. Pedro HOMEM DA COSTAwas born in São Miguel o Archanjo das Lajes - Terceira (Açores). He married4 Isabel DE AVILA on 12Oct 1636 in São Miguel o Arcanjo das Lagens -Terceira (Açores). 7. Isabel DE AVILAwas born in São Miguel o Archanjo das Lajes - Terceira (Açores). Fourth Generation 8. JoãoFALEIRO was born in Ilha Santa Maria (Açores). He married Margarida CORVELO. 9. Margarida CORVELOwas born in Ilha Santa Maria (Açores). 10. Antônio FERNANDES DACOSTA died5,6 on 21 Nov 1648 in Santa Catarina do Cabo da Praia - Terceira (Açores). Hemarried Branca GOMES. ou Bartholomeo 11. Branca GOMES died7,8 on 12 Feb 1635 in SantaCatarina do Cabo da Praia - Terceira (Açores). 12. Aleixo MANOEL wasborn in São Miguel o Archanjo das Lajes - Terceira (Açores). He married BarbaraRODRIGUES DA COSTA. 13. Barbara RODRIGUES DACOSTA was born in São Miguel o Archanjo das Lajes - Terceira (Açores). 14. Amador ALVERES9 was born in São Miguel oArchanjo das Lajes - Terceira (Açores). He married10 Antonia CARDOSO on 18 Oct 1598in São Miguel o Archanjo das Lajes - Terceira (Açores). 15. Antonia CARDOSO11 was born in São Miguel oArchanjo das Lajes - Terceira (Açores). ou Ana Cardoso (batismo do 1° Aleixo, casamento de Barbara) Fifth Generation 28. Amador ALVERESwas born in São Miguel o Archanjo das Lajes - Terceira (Açores). He marriedBarbara PEREIRA. 29. Barbara PEREIRAwas born in São Miguel o Archanjo das Lajes - Terceira (Açores). 30. Francisco RODRIGUESwas born in São Miguel o Archanjo das Lajes - Terceira (Açores). He marriedMaria NUNES. 31. Maria NUNES wasborn in São Miguel o Archanjo das Lajes - Terceira (Açores). Appendix A - Sources 1. Arquivos de Angra - Lajes, Livro dos batismos 1610-1638, fl. 71v. 2. Arquivos de Angra - Lajes, L° dos casamentos 1636-1691,fl. 74. 3. Arquivos de Angra - Santa Sé, ph. 188. 4. Arquivos de Angra - Lajes, L° dos casamentos n°2, fl. 4. 6. Arquivos de Angra - Cabo da Praia, ph. 11. 8. Arquivos de Angra - Cabo da Praia, ph. 5. 9. Arquivos de Angra, Mitra deAngra, maço 6, doc. 23. 10. Arquivos de Angra - Lajes, ph. 27. 11. Arquivos de Angra, Mitra deAngra, maço 6, doc. 23. Em Domingo, 29 de Abril de 2018 7:58, Sandra Valine Dauerescreveu: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-LAJES-C-1636-1691/TER-PV-LAJES-C-1636-1691_item1/P154.html Top Record: request full translation if possible. Thank you Sandra Valine DauerOn the 24 day of the month of February 1677 (Sao Miguel Arcanjo) Council de Praia de LagensAndre Faleiro son of Cardozawith Barbara da Cotta..widow? Manoel Robello-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Familias da Ilha Terceira - New publications
Dear colisters, I have pleasure to inform of the new publications of the colection "Familias da Ilha Terceira" : - Volumes I, II e III - 2.nd edition and"addenda-errata-index" of the 1.st edition.- Volume IV, V et VI (news). All informations are in my website : http://philippegarnier112.wixsite.com/familiasilhaterceira/copie-de-familias-da-ilha-terceira Best regards Philippe GarnierParis - France Philippe Garnier Paris - France « Aos nossos a honra de nascer entre nos, Aos outros a pena de não ser um dos nossos. » -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading Altares 1788 marriage of Francisco Cardoso and Francisca Rosa
1788, January 20, Francisco Cardoso son of José Simões and Maria Madalena from Alteres, with Francisca Rosa daughter of Francisco Lourenço Mendes and Antonia Maria from Altares too. Philippe Garnier Paris - FranceEm segunda-feira, 20 de agosto de 2018 17:28:01 GMT+2, doreencaet...@gmail.com escreveu: I can not read this read. It is too light and I have not learned how to make adjustments to help me read it. Can someone help me? Top of the left side. Thanks. Doreen http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831_item1/P4.html Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Familias da Ilha Terceira - New publications
I am not. Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em terça-feira, 14 de agosto de 2018 03:15:12 GMT+2, Shirl Sereque escreveu: Philippe Garnier: My Andrade and Rodrigues ancestors are on my ancestry.com page. Are you on ancestry.com?I'll look at some names for you!- Shirl - On Monday, August 13, 2018 3:36 PM, 'Philippe GARNIER' via Azores Genealogy wrote: Hi Shirl, Andrade, and more Rodrigues, are very commun. Do you have more information to see if I have in my bdd (or books, perhaps).? Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em segunda-feira, 13 de agosto de 2018 21:19:10 GMT+2, Shirl Sereque escreveu: Philippe Garnier Philippe: Your books sound interesting as there are two names that are also in my background. Rodrigues and Andrade. Mine were Jewish and fled to England. Any relationships?- Shirl - On Monday, August 13, 2018 3:11 PM, 'Philippe GARNIER' via Azores Genealogy wrote: Dear colisters, I have pleasure to inform of the new publications of the colection "Familias da Ilha Terceira" : - Volumes I, II e III - 2.nd edition and"addenda-errata-index" of the 1.st edition.- Volume IV, V et VI (news). All informations are in my website : http://philippegarnier112.wixsite.com/familiasilhaterceira/copie-de-familias-da-ilha-terceira Best regards Philippe GarnierParis - France Philippe Garnier Paris - France « Aos nossos a honra de nascer entre nos, Aos outros a pena de não ser um dos nossos. » -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] clarification
"Dona" in the portugues country is not equivalent to Lady. I say "Dona Lea" with my mother in law. However, Dona is used to upper or mddle-class, often to land owner or a rich merchant wife.Note that the husband of the "Dona" is not a "Don. Abraços Philippe Garnier Paris - France Familias da ilha Terceira | | | | Familias da ilha Terceira Familias da ilha Terceira : Francisco Ferreira Dormonde (Ormonde, Armond) Aleixo Pacheo de Lima Manoel de Ponte ... | | | Em sexta-feira, 28 de setembro de 2018 01:06:08 GMT+2, Gonçalo Marques escreveu: "ao pé de" can be literally translated as "at the foot of", as Cheri explained.But "ao pé de" is a Portuguese expression that means "near to". That is a translation that is closer to its meaning. O João está ao pé da padaria.João is near the bakery. Cheers Gonçalo On Thu, 27 Sep 2018, 21:43 Cheri Mello, wrote: Gordon, I'd really need to see the whole record. Is the apostrophe after the "e" on "Pe" really an accent of "Pé?" That means foot. "Ao" means "on the" or "at the" (it's a contraction). So "at the foot of Ladeira" is how I kinda interpret that without seeing it in context. D. is Dona. It's a title, similar to Lady, as in Lady Diana. The older Dona titles are real. As they come forward in time, they are used more loosely and may not have the status that they used to carry with them. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 10:06 AM Gordon soares wrote: Is Ao Pe’ da Ladeira a street in Lajes or is it a different place? Also, when a record says “husband of D. Teresa and their daughter D. Maria…what does the “D” mean? Gordon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help reading Altares marriage record
17 February 1746. Francisco Correia son of Manoel Correia and Maria dos Anjos (Altares), with Teresa Antonia de Jesus daughter of Maria Faleiro (Lajes), without father's name. Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em sábado, 10 de novembro de 2018 21:37:13 GMT+1, escreveu: Thanks Cheri...you are right that it is de Jesus. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Familias da Ilha Terceira - Index
Dear Colisters, I have pleasure to inform of the Index book of the collection "Familias da Ilha Terceira" (Vol. I to V). All information are in my website : Familias da ilha Terceira | | | | Familias da ilha Terceira Familias da ilha Terceira : Francisco Ferreira Dormonde (Ormonde, Armond) Aleixo Pacheo de Lima Manoel de Ponte ... | | | Best regards Philippe Garnier Paris - France -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help reading Altares marriage record
The date is in the margin. Philippe Garnier Paris - France Familias da ilha Terceira | | | | Familias da ilha Terceira Familias da ilha Terceira : Francisco Ferreira Dormonde (Ormonde, Armond) Aleixo Pacheo de Lima Manoel de Ponte ... | | | Em domingo, 11 de novembro de 2018 03:29:01 GMT+1, escreveu: I see the Faleiro (Faleira) now. I just couldn't figure out how Phillippe got the date with the page so damaged--but now I see it written in the margin. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading Altares Marriage of JoaoMachadoToledo and Rosa Maria
Hi Doreen, Yes his name is Soares. His marriage with Ana Maria is in Fonte Bastardo (1773, february 25); 2nd book, fl. 20v. It is his 3rd marriage. The 2nd is in Altares (1747, October 21) , 1713-1763 book, img 123. He is widow of Ursula da Silveira and native from Ilha do Pico. Abraços Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em segunda-feira, 3 de setembro de 2018 15:33:10 GMT+2, escreveu: #yiv1312755846 #yiv1312755846 -- _filtered #yiv1312755846 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv1312755846 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv1312755846 #yiv1312755846 p.yiv1312755846MsoNormal, #yiv1312755846 li.yiv1312755846MsoNormal, #yiv1312755846 div.yiv1312755846MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv1312755846 a:link, #yiv1312755846 span.yiv1312755846MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1312755846 a:visited, #yiv1312755846 span.yiv1312755846MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1312755846 .yiv1312755846MsoChpDefault {} _filtered #yiv1312755846 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv1312755846 div.yiv1312755846WordSection1 {}#yiv1312755846 Yes. Thank you. It was my faul.t I was looking at two records at the same time. I posted a correction but Rosemarie responded without reading it. I was reading the word widow as a last name Vieira for the bride and then thought it was her father. Once I looked at it again I realized it was widow. In a reply to the original post I posted the link to Rosa Marie first marriage. I need help reading that record. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831_item1/P96.html It says Sebastiao Soares de Melo, son of Joao Soares de Melo and Ana Maria, married Rosa Maria, daughter of Manuel Goncalves Fialho and Benedicta do Espirito Santo. I question if I have the correct groom’s father’s name. Could it be Sousa? Also does it say what village they are from because I can not find then in the marriage index for Altares? This is why I question my reading of the groom’s father’s name. Thanks again, Doreen Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: bsei2...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2018 2:55 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading Altares Marriage of JoaoMachadoToledo and Rosa Maria Hello Doreen, I think Rosmarie is right about the bride's parents in the lower right record. However, that is the marriage of Manuel Francisco da Silva and Maria Isabel rather than the couple in your subject line. Your couple is the top left record and the bride's parents are not listed; she is listed as the widow of Sebastiao Soares buried in this same parish of Sao Roque. Bill Seidler -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: RE: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading Altares Marriage ofJoaoMachadoToledo and Rosa Maria
No indication where Pico he is from. But Ursula is died in N.S. da Conceição of Angra. perhaps her obit said where she is from.Beatriz is widow of João Coelho (de Ornelas) died in Altares. This mariage is in Santa Sé (1718, March 25, img 265). Abs Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em segunda-feira, 3 de setembro de 2018 17:40:47 GMT+2, escreveu: #yiv4973437782 #yiv4973437782 -- _filtered #yiv4973437782 {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 5 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv4973437782 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv4973437782 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv4973437782 #yiv4973437782 p.yiv4973437782MsoNormal, #yiv4973437782 li.yiv4973437782MsoNormal, #yiv4973437782 div.yiv4973437782MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv4973437782 a:link, #yiv4973437782 span.yiv4973437782MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4973437782 a:visited, #yiv4973437782 span.yiv4973437782MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4973437782 p.yiv4973437782msonormal, #yiv4973437782 li.yiv4973437782msonormal, #yiv4973437782 div.yiv4973437782msonormal {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv4973437782 .yiv4973437782MsoChpDefault {} _filtered #yiv4973437782 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv4973437782 div.yiv4973437782WordSection1 {}#yiv4973437782 Ok Philippe. I found his second marriage to Beatriz do Rosario. This one is very hard to read. I think in says Joao Soares, Island of Pico, widower of Ursula da Silveira, (I think is says that she was from Pico but does it say where?) then it says something about Angra? marrying Beatriz do Rosario, daughter of Joao Coelho ? and ? (are they also from Pico?) Guessing at this point. Doreen Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: 'Philippe GARNIER' via Azores Genealogy Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 7:25 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading Altares Marriage ofJoaoMachadoToledo and Rosa Maria Hi Doreen, Yes his name is Soares. His marriage with Ana Maria is in Fonte Bastardo (1773, february 25); 2nd book, fl. 20v. It is his 3rd marriage. The 2nd is in Altares (1747, October 21) , 1713-1763 book, img 123. He is widow of Ursula da Silveira and native from Ilha do Pico. Abraços Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em segunda-feira, 3 de setembro de 2018 15:33:10 GMT+2, escreveu: Yes. Thank you. It was my faul.t I was looking at two records at the same time. I posted a correction but Rosemarie responded without reading it. I was reading the word widow as a last name Vieira for the bride and then thought it was her father. Once I looked at it again I realized it was widow. In a reply to the original post I posted the link to Rosa Marie first marriage. I need help reading that record. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831_item1/P96.html It says Sebastiao Soares de Melo, son of Joao Soares de Melo and Ana Maria, married Rosa Maria, daughter of Manuel Goncalves Fialho and Benedicta do Espirito Santo. I question if I have the correct groom’s father’s name. Could it be Sousa? Also does it say what village they are from because I can not find then in the marriage index for Altares? This is why I question my reading of the groom’s father’s name. Thanks again, Doreen Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: bsei2...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2018 2:55 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading Altares Marriage of JoaoMachadoToledo and Rosa Maria Hello Doreen, I think Rosmarie is right about the bride's parents in the lower right record. However, that is the marriage of Manuel Francisco da Silva and Maria Isabel rather than the couple in your subject line. Your couple is the top left record and the bride's parents are not listed; she is listed as the widow of Sebastiao Soares buried in this same parish of Sao Roque. Bill Seidler -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://
Re: RE: RE: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading Altares MarriageofJoaoMachadoToledo and Rosa Maria
Ponta do Pico. I don't know Pico Island. Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em segunda-feira, 3 de setembro de 2018 19:05:00 GMT+2, escreveu: #yiv0698329712 #yiv0698329712 -- _filtered #yiv0698329712 {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 5 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv0698329712 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv0698329712 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv0698329712 #yiv0698329712 p.yiv0698329712MsoNormal, #yiv0698329712 li.yiv0698329712MsoNormal, #yiv0698329712 div.yiv0698329712MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv0698329712 a:link, #yiv0698329712 span.yiv0698329712MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0698329712 a:visited, #yiv0698329712 span.yiv0698329712MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0698329712 p.yiv0698329712msonormal, #yiv0698329712 li.yiv0698329712msonormal, #yiv0698329712 div.yiv0698329712msonormal {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv0698329712 p.yiv0698329712msonormal3, #yiv0698329712 li.yiv0698329712msonormal3, #yiv0698329712 div.yiv0698329712msonormal3 {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv0698329712 .yiv0698329712MsoChpDefault {} _filtered #yiv0698329712 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv0698329712 div.yiv0698329712WordSection1 {}#yiv0698329712 Wow. I was way off. Thank you. I’m learning a lot. Here’s her death record. It mentions a place in Pico but I do not recognize the village. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-CONCEICAO-O-1734-1754/TER-AH-CONCEICAO-O-1734-1754_item1/P156.html Thanks Doreen Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: 'Philippe GARNIER' via Azores Genealogy Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 9:21 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: RE: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading Altares MarriageofJoaoMachadoToledo and Rosa Maria No indication where Pico he is from. But Ursula is died in N.S. da Conceição of Angra. perhaps her obit said where she is from. Beatriz is widow of João Coelho (de Ornelas) died in Altares. This mariage is in Santa Sé (1718, March 25, img 265). Abs Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em segunda-feira, 3 de setembro de 2018 17:40:47 GMT+2, escreveu: Ok Philippe. I found his second marriage to Beatriz do Rosario. This one is very hard to read. I think in says Joao Soares, Island of Pico, widower of Ursula da Silveira, (I think is says that she was from Pico but does it say where?) then it says something about Angra? marrying Beatriz do Rosario, daughter of Joao Coelho ? and ? (are they also from Pico?) Guessing at this point. Doreen Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: 'Philippe GARNIER' via Azores Genealogy Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 7:25 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading Altares Marriage ofJoaoMachadoToledo and Rosa Maria Hi Doreen, Yes his name is Soares. His marriage with Ana Maria is in Fonte Bastardo (1773, february 25); 2nd book, fl. 20v. It is his 3rd marriage. The 2nd is in Altares (1747, October 21) , 1713-1763 book, img 123. He is widow of Ursula da Silveira and native from Ilha do Pico. Abraços Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em segunda-feira, 3 de setembro de 2018 15:33:10 GMT+2, escreveu: Yes. Thank you. It was my faul.t I was looking at two records at the same time. I posted a correction but Rosemarie responded without reading it. I was reading the word widow as a last name Vieira for the bride and then thought it was her father. Once I looked at it again I realized it was widow. In a reply to the original post I posted the link to Rosa Marie first marriage. I need help reading that record. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831_item1/P96.html It says Sebastiao Soares de Melo, son of Joao Soares de Melo and Ana Maria, married Rosa Maria, daughter of Manuel Goncalves Fialho and Benedicta do Espirito Santo. I question if I have the correct groom’s father’s name. Could it be Sousa? Also does it say what village they are from because I can not find then in the marriage index for Altares? This is why I question my reading of the groom’s father’s name. Thanks again, Doreen Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: bsei2...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2018 2:55 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading Altares Marriage of JoaoMachadoToledo and Rosa Maria Hello Doreen, I think Rosmarie is right about the bride's parents in the lower right record. However, that is the marriage of Manuel Francisco da Silva and Maria Isabel rather than the couple in your subject line. Your couple is the top left record and the bride's parents are not listed; she is listed as the widow of Sebastiao Soares buried
Re: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Big Problems with Altares line which keepschanging names
Hi Doreen, I found to, and I have a lot informatins about their parents. I send you another day, because my bdd is on another computer forbidden of internet (hi hi). But, I search more about Francisco Correa Romeiro e Maria Augusta.On the batism of Maria, her maternal grandparents are Francisco Coelho Pinheiro and Gertrudes Candidad do Coraçao de Jesus. I have a Francisco Gonçalves Pinheiro and Gertrudes Candida married in Altares on 14 june 1835 ((img 36). This Francisco have a Nicolau Borges Coelho (3th grand father). Perhaps, he is the father of Maria Augusta. Paternal grandparents of Maria are Silvestre Correa Roeiro and Francisca de Jesus. Their marriage is in Altares on é& junes 1845 (img 17); The parents of Francisca de Jesus are José NUNES do COUTO (like Francisco sometimes). Silvester is widow of Maria Vicência, and i Don't found this marriage. Maria Vicencia died on11 march 1845, with 23 years old. Then she married a littel time before 1845.I searched a Silvestre in Altares, name no frequent. And in my bdd I have a Silvestre born in Altares, on 31 december 1809 (img 114). His parents are Filipe Romeiro and Maria de Jesus. And his paternam grandparents are José CORREIA ROMEIRO and Maria Josefa. Then, this Silvestre is probably our Silvestre CORREIA ROMEIRO.All of them I have ascendents until the 6th or 9th generation. Philippe Garnier Paris - France Familias da ilha Terceira | | | | Familias da ilha Terceira Familias da ilha Terceira : Francisco Ferreira Dormonde (Ormonde, Armond) Aleixo Pacheo de Lima Manoel de Ponte ... | | | Em quarta-feira, 26 de setembro de 2018 01:18:18 GMT+2, escreveu: #yiv0788003050 #yiv0788003050 -- _filtered #yiv0788003050 {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 5 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv0788003050 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv0788003050 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv0788003050 #yiv0788003050 p.yiv0788003050MsoNormal, #yiv0788003050 li.yiv0788003050MsoNormal, #yiv0788003050 div.yiv0788003050MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv0788003050 a:link, #yiv0788003050 span.yiv0788003050MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0788003050 a:visited, #yiv0788003050 span.yiv0788003050MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0788003050 p.yiv0788003050msonormal, #yiv0788003050 li.yiv0788003050msonormal, #yiv0788003050 div.yiv0788003050msonormal {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv0788003050 .yiv0788003050MsoChpDefault {} _filtered #yiv0788003050 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv0788003050 div.yiv0788003050WordSection1 {}#yiv0788003050 Great. I have continued to research these lines. I found the marriage record for Antonio Coelho Berbereia’s parents, Jose Coelho de Melo Machado and Isabel de Jesus. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1860-1869/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1860-1869_item1/P29.html Do not have Isabel de Jesus’s baptism record but her parents are Antonio Ferreira Coelho and Antonia Narcisa and here’s the link to their marriage record http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1831-1843/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1831-1843_item1/P41.html I also have the marriage records for their parents but will post tomorrow. I need to get off the computer right now. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: 'Philippe GARNIER' via Azores Genealogy Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 9:26 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Big Problems with Altares line which keepschanging names Dear Dorreen, It's interesting. I have not this one on my bdd. I'll do research and see if I can answer. Abraços Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em domingo, 23 de setembro de 2018 19:19:57 GMT+2, doreencaet...@gmail.com escreveu: Well where to begin…I’m trying to help a DNA cousin develop their tree. Their lineage goes through Antonio Coelho Berbereia and Maria do Espirito Santo. Here’s is the link to their marriage record http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-C-1890-1899/TER-AH-RAMINHO-C-1890-1899_item1/P26.html In this document it says his parents are Jose Coelho de Melo and Isabel de Jesus and her parents are Francisco Correia Romeiro and Maria Augusta. I can not find the marriage of these two couples. I have found the baptism of Maria do Espirito Santo, on the bottom of right side of the page on this link http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1870-1879/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1870-1879_item1/P134.html Here’s the really big problem: the birth of their first child, Maria, shows the grandparents to be parental Jose Coelho de Melo Machado and Isabel de Jesus and maternal Francisco Nunes and Amelia Augusta. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TE
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Big Problems with Altares line which keeps changing names
Dear Dorreen, It's interesting. I have not this one on my bdd. I'll do research and see if I can answer. Abraços Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em domingo, 23 de setembro de 2018 19:19:57 GMT+2, doreencaet...@gmail.com escreveu: Well where to begin…I’m trying to help a DNA cousin develop their tree. Their lineage goes through Antonio Coelho Berbereia and Maria do Espirito Santo. Here’s is the link to their marriage record http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-C-1890-1899/TER-AH-RAMINHO-C-1890-1899_item1/P26.html In this document it says his parents are Jose Coelho de Melo and Isabel de Jesus and her parents are Francisco Correia Romeiro and Maria Augusta. I can not find the marriage of these two couples. I have found the baptism of Maria do Espirito Santo, on the bottom of right side of the page on this link http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1870-1879/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1870-1879_item1/P134.html Here’s the really big problem: the birth of their first child, Maria, shows the grandparents to be parental Jose Coelho de Melo Machado and Isabel de Jesus and maternal Francisco Nunes and Amelia Augusta. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1890-1899/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1890-1899_item1/P71.html Second child Jesuina’s record lists grandparents as paternal Jose Correia de Melo Machado and Isabel de Jesus http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1890-1899/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1890-1899_item1/P102.html and so does the third child Esperanca’s record http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1890-1899/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1890-1899_item1/P145.html as well as the 4th and 5th children who are twins Francisco and Amelia’s records. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1890-1899/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1890-1899_item1/P183.html Then there is a change: for the 6th child Paulina’s record says her paternal grandparents are Jose Coelho Berbereia and Isabel de Jesus and her maternal grandparents are Francisco Nunes do Coito and Maria Augusta. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1900-1911/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1900-1911_item1/P31.html Now the adding of the “do Coito” to Francisco Nunes seem likely since I saw that surname on Amelia’s baptism as her godfather Manuel Nunes do Coito. Also I have been trying to track the Jose Coelho Berbereia for year now who seems to change his name to Jose Coelho de Melo and Jose Coelho de Melo Machado. This is very confusing because I believe this Jose is the son of Jose Coelho de Melo and Isabel de Jesus, which is the son of Jose Coelho de Melo and Isabel de Jesus, which is the son of Jose Coelho de Melo and Isabel da Conceicao who also uses Isabel de Jesus( my 2nd Great Grandparents, who is the son of Francisco Jose Berbereia and Joana Antonia. This change in their name continues through the rest of their children: Paulina #2, http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1900-1911/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1900-1911_item1/P69.html Joao, http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1900-1911/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1900-1911_item1/P95.html Joao Baptista, http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1900-1911/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1900-1911_item1/P116.html Isabel http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1900-1911/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1900-1911_item1/P140.html and Alexandrina http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1900-1911/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1900-1911_item1/P198.html Questions: DO YOU THINK THAT THE MARRIAGE RECORD HAS THE MISTAKE? OR IS THERE ANOTHER REASON WHY THE BRIDE’S PARENTS ARE NOT THE MATERNAL GRANDPARENTS? hOW COMMON IS IT TO HAVE A PERSON’S NAME CHANGE SO MANY TIMES (I’m speaking of Jose Coelho (Correia) de Melo aka Jose Coelho de Melo Machado aka Jose Coelho Berbereia) And is it just my luck or DO YOU THINK IT IS NOT LIKELY THAT ALL THESE JOSE COELHO DE MELO(S) ALL MARRIED ISABEL DE JESUS(S)? ANY FEEDBACK/DIRECTION/ADVISE/ETC WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. Thanks, Doreen Caetano Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism of Josefa
Says that the godparents are children of Manuel Machedo Fagundes and Maria da Trindade (Evangelho) Abs Philippe Garnier Paris - France Familias da ilha Terceira | | | | Familias da ilha Terceira Familias da ilha Terceira : Francisco Ferreira Dormonde (Ormonde, Armond) Aleixo Pacheo de Lima Manoel de Ponte ... | | | Em sexta-feira, 14 de setembro de 2018 16:08:18 GMT+2, doreencaet...@gmail.com escreveu: I’m having trouble reading the margin note for Josepha. It is the middle record of the left side of the page. Godfather to niece Antonia, daughter of Antonia Coelho Machado and Joanna da Sao Joao, http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1776-1784/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1776-1784_item1/P24.html Thanks, Doreen Caetano Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation
Hi Bob, 08/30/1891,is the date of batism. The date of birth is 08/21/1891. Parents are Manuel Machado Carvalho e Julia Maxima Leonor. Their mariage is in 1890 (Ribeirinha, fl. 11).Paternal grandpartents are Manuel Machado Carvalho and Eugénia Maxima.maternal grandparents are Pancracio Machado Evangelho e Maria José. Best regards Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em terça-feira, 11 de setembro de 2018 19:01:58 GMT+2, E" Sharp escreveu: If I am reading the right onelooks like Manuel Machado Carvalho to me?? "E" You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscribe@googlegroup s.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/grou p/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.